The Bill Simmons Podcast - NFC Upset Day, Awful QBs, the Sleeper Lions, Guess the Lines, and NBA Award Stuff With Cousin Sal and Joe House

Episode Date: October 16, 2023

The Ringer's Bill Simmons is joined by Cousin Sal to discuss some weird NFL outcomes, including the 49ers falling to the Browns, and the Jets beating the Eagles (1:18), before talking Bills-Giants, Saints-Texans, Patriots-Raiders, Falcons-Commanders, Seahawks-Bengals, and more (20:52). Next, Joe House joins as they guess the lines for NFL Week 7 (40:28), before closing the show with Parent Corner (1:07:45). Host: Bill Simmons Guests: Cousin Sal and Joe House Producer: Kyle Crichton The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming, please checkout theringer.com/RG to find out more or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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our friends from Pro Gym. All right, we're taping this. It is 8.45 Pacific time. Just watched a bizarre Giants-Bills game to cap off an absolutely bizarre day of football. Week six. We should have known. You guys did the Wise Guys show in the beginning and we were like, some weird smells here today. Can't really figure out where the scents are coming from. Something weird is going to happen. We tried to

target the Cleveland game. Cleveland beat San Francisco and somehow that didn't end up being the weirdest result. What was the weirdest thing that happened today for you? I guess that I won money, I think being the weirdest result. What was the weirdest thing that happened today for you? I guess that I won money, I think, is the weirdest thing. I had a lot, lot, lot, lot tied to that Bills game, just like you had a lot tied to the Eagles. But that was insanity. I did not need a heart attack like that this late at night on a Sunday. Well, also with the survivor pools, I think Buffalo and Miami

were like the two big ones if you hadn't used Miami yet. Let's go. Let's start with Browns Niners because I thought that was the most meaningful game from a season standpoint. Do you want to start? We called it. We called it exactly last Sunday night. We never called the game like that. We said it was going to be ugly.

We said the weather would be bad. I think I'm going to get my media. We said the Niners are going to get beaten up. You said you called the injuries. Yeah, I'm getting my meteorology license, if I can pronounce it. I mean, yeah, it was and I don't think we made a lot of money. No, I

don't think we did either. I had them in million dollar picks. I had them tied to the cards in a money line parlay that lost, but Jake Moody missed the game winning field goal. I felt like the right team won. I thought the Browns, their defense was so great in that game. They were all over the place.

And Stefanski, who I think, I mean, if you're thinking about long shot Browns odds or any type of bets, you just have just tear the tickets in half. I just don't think he's a competent enough coach. Some of the stuff they're doing on offense

where you have the lead, you have momentum, your defense is just crushing this Niners team. And over and over again, P.J. Walker is just like doing stuff and trying to make plays

offensively. To me, this was just a run three plays, punt, let your defense take it from there. For some reason, they were just incapable of doing it, and they needed the lucky field goal at the end to win. Yeah, the missed field goal. Yeah, and look, if you're a 49ers fan,

you shouldn't be worried because this was a trap game, right? We said it after the big Sunday nighter against the Cowboys. Why do they care about going to Cleveland and winning by a lot? I think it opened at three and a half when we did it on Sunday because we thought Deshaun was playing and that's a whole other thing. I don't know why everyone's not opening this up. There are reports

like, yeah, but he's going to play next week. How do you know? If he didn't practice at all, no one ever reports that a guy's going to play next week if he didn't practice at all the week before. There's some shenanigans going on there if we can't figure it out. But yeah, McCaffrey getting banged up. They had offensive line injuries and Debo Samuel out. And they still, like you said, were a field goal miss away from doing it. Trent Williams was a little banged up. Yeah, we mentioned last week this is the type of game, the biggest question we had on the Niners was could they stay intact for five months with three skill position guys who just have had a tendency to just disappear for chunks of time and are guys that take a lot of hits and this was the type of game where they were going to take a lot of hits.

So you had that piece. I think I set the over-under at two and then we couldn't decide whether it was an under or an over. Cleveland's defense, 1,003 yards allowed in five games, which is the third fewest since the 1970 merger. Wow.

Wow. They go into this game with the Deshaun thing. At least they know this time that he's not playing, probably. And then he doesn't play and they have PJ Walker gets reps. We didn't realize

when we were doing the pod last week that the guy who started last week didn't know he was playing until two and a half hours before the game. I'm with you. This Watson story is bizarre. They clear him to play two weeks ago.

He ends up deciding he's not going to play. They have a bye week coming up. And we talked last week, or whenever this was, two weeks ago about, oh, well, you know, maybe they're just trying to be careful. And now he doesn't play again. And they didn't go to Houston during the bye, right? To rehab.

But still cleared to play, so it didn't really matter. You know, I'm going to say it. Neither of us know anything. I'm going to say it. He's a selfish guy. What are you doing? What are you trying to get on ESPN.com

with some video? He's selfish. I'm going to go as far as to say he's just a selfish human being. I don't know. You can't see Sal's face, but he's laughing as he's doing this. We're doing the ESPN how to get on the front page of the website content. I'm laughing through tears because I have the Browns to win this division. I think it's a solid bet if their quarterback could play when he's able to play.

I don't know. And they've won anyway. And I still like it because they're 3-2 and have a nice home field advantage, it seems. And you're right. I think they allow like 3.1 yards per play. They were awesome. It's insane. My shit detector is going off with the Deshaun story, and I think yours is too.

Something doesn't add up. And I don't know what the real story is, but I don't feel like we're hearing it. And I fully expect tomorrow, Tuesday, Wednesday, some sort of something to come out where it's like, oh, actually, this is what's going on. And I don't know what it is. Could someone whisper us the real story, like Michelle Tafoya call in or something? Well, anybody. Well, if they cleared him in a play two weeks ago and he's still hurt, then that means their doctors are terrible. So something doesn't add up with this.

The Stefanski piece, him and Staley are the two guys over and over. These guys that get aggressive in their own territory because the analytics tell them to and they don't seem to have any sense for what the game is. And in this game, it's like, man, we have a lead. Our defense is going to keep this lead. Let's not fuck up the lead.

He's got P.J. Walker thrown from a zone 10. I was just stupefied by that. I'm with you on Stefanski, but I don't think any of these coaches we thought were good know how to hold a lead, including McDermott and including Sirianni and all these teams that go far. And we're going to get to those games in a minute. But for God's sakes, it's a mystery every game.

Yeah, this was a just-running punk game. I crowdsourced a couple Browns fans. First of all, it was the biggest upset win they've had just from a Vegas spread standpoint since 2010. It has to be in the running for one of the biggest wins they've had since they a Vegas spread standpoint since 2010. It has to be in the running for one of the biggest wins they've had since they got the team back in 1999. I mean, I'm sure there was a Baker Mayfield game. I'm sure there was a game during the Derrick Anderson era, but this was just an awesome win. They do it at home. They do it in

this punch mouth style. And then they get this lucky break at the end when the guy shanks what seemed to be slightly harder kick than the Niners were giving it credit for. They seemed very happy to do a 41 yarder on grass and not awesome weather with a guy who hadn't been in a lot of spots like that. I would love to ask a kicker like, hey, does it make, because in my mind and in your mind, it makes a difference if you get it to 35 yards away versus 41 or 42, right? Would a kicker admit that? Or are they just too proud to say, Hey man, I'm nailing them from

55 in practice. So I don't care. Put me anywhere. There must be some range where they're like, I'm lights out. Cause Elliot and the Eagles Jets games we're about to talk about, he missed a 37 yarder. And that guy has hit the point when he misses a field goal. I'm shocked. Yeah. You would like Rory McIlroy. It wouldn't be like, yeah, man, I'll put it from 14 feet or six feet. I don't care. It's like, no, no, there's a percentage where you're better. You got a sweet spot for sure. Yeah. Brock Purdy, you just say bad weather. He was due for one of those or did he vindicate a lot of people who were saying, can everybody settle down

on this Brock Purdy thing? He's got great weapons. He's got a really good offensive line. And he's not nearly as good as he's looked these first five weeks. All those people are somehow right. He did have some weapons pulled out of this game.

Trent Williams is playing hurt. Worst possible situation. Not great weather. He's going against the best defense in the league. But we'll say, I'm filing it away for January. worst possible situation. Not great weather. He's going against the best defense in the league. But, we'll say, I'm filing it away for January.

Because, who knows where they're playing. But in January, and especially now that the season drags on, could be, you know, the last weekend in January or something.

It could be like a 15, 20 degree. It's hard not to think about this game three months from now, right? Yeah, and I think the worst thing that could happen to him is me screaming about how he needs to get a contract extension, even though he's not due for one for like a year and a half all week long.

But I think we could answer one thing fairly definitively between him and McCaffrey as far as MVP for the team. It's McCaffrey, right? It's got to be Christian McCaffrey, as far as MVP for the team, it's McCaffrey, right? It's got to be Christian McCaffrey. Right. Eagles-Jets.

I'm sorry. I don't know where to start here. I won't bring myself in first. I can get to my part in this game later. I just want to say the Jets are 3-3. Yeah. They're still alive. If you go through the AFC, Casey and Miami are 3-3. Yeah. They're still alive. If you go through the AFC,

KC and Miami are 5-1. Baltimore, Jacksonville, and Buffalo are all 4-2. Pittsburgh and Cleveland are 3-2. And then Indy, Houston, the Jets, Vegas, and Cincinnati are all 3-3. So there's only three teams

with a below 500 record. The Jets, even with Rodgers, probably would have been happy to get out of that gauntlet they had 3-3. That's what I was just going to ask you. I don't think they would have gone 4-2 with Rodgers. They might have gone 2-4.

No, because they won that Bills game. Maybe Rodgers getting knocked out might have weirdly hurt the Bills because they let up. Who knows? But this game, they don't have either corner. The Eagles are up 14-3, which when you have Zach Wilson against a good defense,

and the Eagles didn't have Jalen Carter for this game, but you would think an 11-point lead against Zach Wilson, you're probably good. Maybe take that money out of the bank account or start mentally spending it. I don't know what happened to Hurts on that third and nine. I mean, the game was slipping away, and we were watching it here in my house, But I don't know what happened to Hurts on that third and nine. I mean, the game was slipping away and we were watching it here in my house,

joking about how it felt scripted. It was like, if you're going to script a terrible loss that screws over basically everybody on the planet who threw the Eagles into a tease, myself included, I had the multiple teases. This was the script. But then it still looked like they were going to win. And then third and nine from midfield, under two minutes, where it's basically like just run the ball one more time, punt, make Zach Wilson go 60 yards.

He's not going to do it. And Hurts just throws in a double coverage. It was like either guy could have picked it. And then all of a sudden the Jets are winning. That was the worst, dumbest pass that any good quarterback has thrown this year. And the Bills almost did it too. It wouldn't have been as bad because it wasn't intercepted,

but it was incomplete to the tight end. But yeah, I think there's like two or three plays you do there. And you can almost do them all at once, right? I think it's a quick out. You got to keep that clock moving, right? Against no timeouts. Because the best result is pinning, you know, if the Jets have to have the ball with no timeout, Zach Wilson with

a minute 15 left and that is 15. What, 8-1 to score? Something like that. But yeah, quick out. Yeah, quick out. Take it yourself, Hurts. I don't know. What are the other push-push? Does push-push work for

nine yards? I don't think so. Got to keep that clock running up. Four turnovers for them. They scored no points from the second quarter on. Lane Johnson left the game, I think, in the second quarter. So it put him in the MVP's race too because the moment he left the game, they did jack shit. Salah, who talks a lot of shit after the game, he was like, three and three, we went through a gauntlet.

We played six good quarterbacks, and guess what? None of them had a good game or whatever he said. He was throwing some darts. His clock management is appalling. Like them scoring with a minute 48 left to give the Eagles the ball back as fast as they did. None of the Eagles were even trying to tackle Brees Hall. I feel like this has

happened to them before where they've just mangled the situation, but they end up winning anyway. Was that that bad or was that like 53-47 letting them score? I agree with you and I'm sure the Eagles were psyched when they scored the touchdown, but the equation is 55 seconds

to get a field goal with no timeouts or a minute 46 to get a touchdown with two timeouts. It's probably not that different. It's dumb. I would rather a minute 46 with two timeouts. Don't you want them to go down at the one and then you run it in on the next play? I thought the whole

goal was to chew up. We've seen so many of these. Maybe I'm confusing myself. I know. I know. I just know the Eagles didn't try to tackle them. So obviously they so many of these. Maybe I'm confusing myself. I know. I know. I know. The Eagles didn't try to tackle him, so obviously they wanted him to score. Right, exactly. They wanted that. But to me, not killing the clock was worse. What the Eagles did, what Hurd's throwing the interception

was worse than that. But can I just say this in terms of the injury and the two starters out, the starting cornerbacks out? Unless it's a quarterback, I'm not falling for the injury report anymore. I'm just not going to do it. You're breaking up with the injury report? No, forget it.

It's not even a factor anymore. D-backs are out. I like that team even more now. You know, you're on Tinder. You swipe to someone who has scarlet fever. Go for it. Yeah, do it. That's better.

I don't know how many big games are won with linemen out and stuff like that.'t know how many big games are won without linemen out and stuff like that. The Packers won big games without the guy who's always injured. Bakhtiari, two linemen out, that's my team. I don't care. I'm flying the team flag over my garage. I teased the Eagles with multiple teams. I threw

their money line in, I think at least one other bet. I was just like, how are they going to lose to Zach Wilson if Sauce Gardner and DJ Hall aren't playing? That's ridiculous. I don't know what their game plan was to have A.J. Brown and Devontis, but now they also made a bunch of bad plays. Like Smith dropped one.

I think they were up five. That was bad. And he dropped a 30-yard pass right over the middle, and they just would have had first down in 10 midway through the fourth quarter from like the 20. And that was one of those were like, Oh, hope that doesn't go back to on him. But I have no idea why they weren't just chucking it against those

cornerbacks. You got to score more than 14. I know Wayne Johnson went out, but do you have to score more than 14 against that team? And Hertz will have these like one or two times a year where he just has a look on his face and a demeanor to him like it's not going his way it's like you're the quarterback come on like even Josh Allen who was not good today um he still rose to the occasion when it mattered and he threw oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh

oh two men in this planet can make that throw. That was a bad throw, by the way. I know he completed it, but that was a little too dangerous. I don't know how that was intercepted. Unnecessary. Somebody put the dots, you know, those dots on Twitter. And the dots were like, it was basically how was that completed. Yeah, I got killed.

I broke my rule of I didn't want to have too much capital tied to one team. I was really trying to split it up. So if I was wrong, I got killed. I broke my rule of I didn't want to have too much capital tied to one team. I was really trying to split it up. So if I was wrong, I was wrong. But after watching that entire game, I don't know how the Jets won. I really don't. Their defense was good. There's no question. Crabb really helped them.

Zach Wilson didn't have an interception, which I think the odds of that had to be at least one to two. But I still don't know how they won. Shil Kapati on The Ringer said that teams that are minus four in turnovers over the last three years, it's happened 29 times. How many times

do you think the team won that it was minus four in turnovers? 29 times in three years. Two? Yeah, one. Is it one? So it's just a death sentence,

basically. So the fourth turnover is like they should just stop the game and everybody should just walk out the field. I mean, I don't know, man. I think I would be salivating if I'm like, Zach Wilson has a minute 15, no timeouts,

and at his own 15 or 20-yard line. Sounds great. He can't take a three-step drop. I mean, that whole fourth quarter he was under siege. They were getting better. With that said, I'd rather have him than Mac Jones. And I think he has some moments. He does.

He threw some nice balls. They dropped a couple on him today, but I thought he definitely didn't lose the game for them. Did the Eagles game or the Niners game change your feelings on either of those teams? Because I don't want to overreact because it's week six. I don't want either if they can get these guys back, right? I mean, these are big injuries. Lane Johnson

has to come back for them to be a top echelon team. Christian McCaffrey for sure has to return. All the Philly people in my life who love the Eagles, including a few that work for the ring are raw, right? Something seems off with this team. And then this was the game. We're like, see, told you something seemed off.

I don't know. It's early. I still like their team, told you something seemed up. I don't know. It's early. I still like their team, but that's an awful loss. And by the way, it probably saved the Jets' season because their schedule is going to get easier now. I do think they do have an identity. They're just going to play in these 20-17, 17-12 games. The weather's going to get bad. That's going to help them.

They have a couple of playmakers on offense. Rodgers coming back for the playoffs. What would we have said? 1,000-1 two weeks ago? I don't know. That's another weird thing. 75-1? 70-1? I still wouldn't bet it, but the odds are under 100-1.

We're going to see him throwing every week, right? We're going to see that before the game. Kelsey and Taylor. Kelsey and Taylor went to SNL yesterday. Oh, yeah. Went to the after party after. There's a People magazine piece about how they were all over each other. So I don't know what Rodgers does this week.

But he's got to respond with some fire. He'll start dating Lauren Bulbert or something. That's the only thing that makes sense. That would be incredible alright we're going to take a break talk about the rest of the games hey the NFL season is going strong

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two and a half hours. You kind of knew the Giants were going to lose right before halftime. They have one play from the one yard line and the only thing you can't do is run the ball. Of course, they run it and it turned out it was an audible. Dayball, who's had some incredible freak outs this year,

like incredible, and was the maddest I think he's been all season. So the worst case scenario, they lost three points. But instead of 9-0, it's 6-0. You know the Bills are going to pass that. They do. But they hung around. Tyrod Taylor, I want to guess his record as a starter now. 53 games total.

What do you think it is? 53, 21, and 32. That's too many. 26, 26, and 1. Really? 500 quarterback. Yeah, 34-year-old Tyrod Taylor. I thought Dable was going to bring the Chargers doctor in

to try to stab him at halftime after he blew that game. Maybe he couldn't find the guy. Dable looked like my father in 1986 when the guy we hired to mow the lawn runs over the sprinkler heads continuously and just like freak it out and going after him. I don't know what he'd do.

But you're right. Taylor's been in the league 13 years and he's looking at the sideline like, all right, what do we do now? These bodies aren't getting off of each other quickly enough. We're not going to run another play. It was a weird game. There was a really good fight. Josh Allen got involved in the fight,

but there was like five unsportsmanlike, which somehow offset because they haven't figured out that role, but it was getting testy. Yeah. And I thought the Giants defense, I did not know they had that in them this year, but I do wonder, maybe we should have talked about this last week, the guy who

used to work for the team that he's going against. It did seem like there was some things that were in there. That is one thing that we can't, almost like, oh man, I'm seeing this now. The Giants, maybe the Jets defense inspired the Giants defense, although the Jets defense is pretty good pretty much every week.

But it's like, ah, shit, I'm going to find that right away. But before we go any further, I want to congratulate a group of people who in connection with this game, the NBC crew, Chris, Maria, Devin, Catherine, Tony, Rodney, Mike, Matthew, and Jason, especially Jason, for picking the Bills over the Giants straight up. Oh, they had that? Wow. They did, yes. Yeah, yeah, Rodney, Mike, Matthew, and Jason, especially Jason, for picking the Bills over the Giants straight up. Oh, they had that? Wow. They did, yes.

Yeah, yeah, they had that. All of them had it? Heroes. All heroes. That's hilarious. What am I bothering with that segment? I like our pregame show. That's what I like.

For an hour and a half, we're sitting there picking games and teasers and things that really matter with real lines. The Fando odds right now after all these games today. San Francisco is still the favorite at plus 420. KC is 5-1. Philly is plus 750. Buffalo plus 850. And Miami is 10-1.

Those are our five. I mention this because Dallas is 11-1 and then Detroit is 14-1 and Detroit week after week is just playing really well playing well on both sides of the ball doesn't matter if they're missing one or two playmakers somebody else

steps up and just over and over again they've looked like the best team in the league other than San Francisco. I'm willing to still say San Francisco is the best team in the league. We'll see with the injuries. But I was just surprised that Vegas still has Detroit seventh on that list. Then it's Baltimore 16-1, and then you get into some long shots.

Detroit should be higher than Dallas. Detroit should be higher than Dallas. For sure. And I actually think they should be higher than Miami too. Yeah, they're good. I mean, that was another terrible bet. I love Tampa Bay. I like the spot.

Get it into, oh, how hot it's going to be there. And like, I don't know. You talk yourself into some of these games all week. And it's like, hey, I got, what do I have? I have Baker and I have Derek Carr and I have Geno Smith. I'm good. I'm going to have, I'm going to have a good. I was like, no, you're not.

You're not going to have a good day. You're actually not good enough. Yeah. Pretty good crop too, considering. So you talked yourself into that game. Yeah. I'm the other end. I like the Lions all week.

And then by the time we got to Sunday, I was so psyched out by the line moving. And then people are like, well, you know, blah, blah, blah. And it's outdoors. And why is this line so low? And I talked myself out of it. And I love the lines all week. We should do one week, not look at the injuries, provided that we got a heads up on the quarterback. Not look at the injuries.

And this is impossible because we do guess the lines. But not look at the line movement, at least. And just go with the team we like on Tuesday afternoon. Well, you know, for the second week in a row, when I was like five points off on a line, it won again. In your favor. This week, where I had Houston by two and a half, the line ended up. That was a good one.

I was, I think, five points off last week. It ended up New Orleans by one and a half. And they kind of handled New Orleans. Carr had a classic. You kind of had to watch it because he threw for 353. But it was just meaningless. You never felt like they were getting the 20 points. They got to 13.

And Stroud, who didn't have Dell, he threw a pick. So he is human. But another game made a big game and made a couple of big plays and continues to be. This is why, like, with the Pats, I actually watched college football this week. You'd be proud of me. I love it.

I love it. Man, if you get C.J. Stroud, like, you're fucking set for 15 years, you know? And that's like, the Pats have to tank. If you can get somebody who's at least as good as C.J. Stroud, that's where you want to be. I don't care if we beat the Raiders. I was rooting against us today. You don't like Deion's kid anymore?

I do. I do like him. I didn't like him as much after I went to bed when they were up by 20-plus and then they blew the game. I thought that was over. The Deion movement may be Linsanity. It might be. The Vegas-New England game had the Hall of Fame

cover of the week. Yeah, that was crazy safety. First of all, the Pats never should have had any business covering that game. And to get the Max Crosby roughing the passer, right, is they're going to kick the field goal. They're going to go 19-13.

No, score a touchdown. It's 19-16. They're about to do the Max Crosby rough in the passer, right, is they're going to kick the field goal. They're going to go 19 and 13. No. Score a touchdown. It's 19-16. They're about to do the extra point. And Romo, who clearly had money on the game, was like, they should probably go for two. I didn't understand that, Tony. What's going on?

He's like, sometimes teams like going for two here. It's like, what? Is this like the drug police? Jim talked them out of it. It's like, what? Jim talked them out of it. Cut it to one. And if we don't get it, we're still down three. 1916, bad.

1918, not that good. Doesn't matter. Romo. I convince he's throwing some of this stuff out to see if we're listening. We listened to that one, Tony. He got stuck with that terrible game. I mean, he couldn't have thought, like, what am I doing? I thought we were the top crew.

New England, Las Vegas already? I had the Pats getting two and a half. I know. Nance and Romo going in that game is nuts, but I think they just... The late games, I only think they had a couple options. So the Pats... The Raiders have the ball Pats down two

and I'm trying to figure out how I'm going to cover and quickly came to the conclusion they need to give the ball back to the Pats so Mac Jones can cover this for me with pick six the punt lands inside the ten

it's like oh well maybe maybe it'll be a fumble or something then there's a penalty and it goes back and now they're from their four and I'm watching going you know it's, baby. We might be able to do this. Max Crosby had this dumb penalty before. He comes flying around for the Rulon Jones safety and they cover. And I jumped on House. Oh, come on.

Yeah. Because House picked the Pats plus three and he's like, Belichick's not going down like this. Biggest game of the year. And I'm like, you obviously haven't watched the Pats this season. So anyway, the Raiders covered. And it was wonderful. I don't think it's fair. We don't like laterals, but I feel like you should be able to take insurance out on a safety.

No bet should be determined on a safety. I mean, safety is, listen to the word, safety. You should be able to get insurance on not getting screwed by a word that denotes fair play. Is a safety... We do this, I think, once a year. Is it not enough points?

Should it be more points? It's so exciting when it happens. Should it be three points? I think they probably... It's too hard to change it now. Should it be three points? I think they probably, it's too hard to change it now. Should it be four points? But field goals happen so easily. I think if they could change it, they would. Like, oh, this should be worth more than a field goal, right?

It feels like it should be worth four points. Vegas, some good stats from this game. Vegas is somehow three and three. You tell me how that happened. The first time they scored 20 points, right? Yeah, because of the safety. They got to 19 and then they got a safety. And Garoppolo's been hurt twice now. He had to go to the hospital again.

Mack Jones, 0-13 in his last 13 as an underdog, which almost seems like a made-up stat, but it's actually real. There's only three AFC teams with a losing record. New England and Denver are 1-5 and Tennessee is 2-4.

Everyone else is 500 or better. Well, I think AFC was like 6-0 against the NFC today. Yeah. So that's something to keep in mind. Twitter account, good Boston account, at Boston Sports Info.

The Patriots have only led 15.5% of the time this season. Wow. 84.5% of the time this season. Wow. 84.5% of the time they've either been losing or the game's been tied. And that includes like the first few minutes of the game when it's always tied. So one sixth of the time they've had a lead.

Good. Belichick, who's still at 330, well behind Don Shula. He is now eight behind Tom Landry for most losses ever. Oh, wow. He might get most losses ever before he gets most wins ever. Interesting.

Did you know that? I didn't know that until today. No, I didn't know that. Yeah. Wait a minute. Because that, yeah. Landry had 178. He's got 170 now.

All right. So just know it's not personal when I continue to root against the Patriots. I just got to save my boy Tom here. Well, so there's six teams with zero or one wins. Carolina, Denver, New England, Chicago, Arizona, and the Giants. The NFL trade deadline is on Halloween. I would say Denver and the Pats

are probably going to be the most aggressive for the Zinio and Juan, a couple of our good players. Arizona, I don't know how many good players they have. But I didn't know this. Our buddy Gus texted me this. Maybe I knew this and forgot. The Pats and Denver play on

Christmas Eve. Oh, wow. And I think Tankacloss is going to be coming down the chimney for one of those teams. I don't know what's going to happen. Is that the Tom Landry game? Maybe that's the Tom Landry game. Maybe he passes Tom Landry. But yeah, Pat Stenberg on Christmas Eve.

So if you had to say who's going to have the worst record in the league, who would you say? Well, these Panthers are pretty uninspiring, I have to say. They took the 14-0 lead and still somehow didn't cover. Yeah, I don't think any lead is safe with them.

I don't know. I would never... I can't think of a situation where I would bet them, honestly. I kind of like them 14 and a half today, but it stayed away from it. It just seemed like a classic Miami. We talked about it on Wise stayed away from it. It just seemed like a classic Miami. We talked about it on Wise.

35 straight? Yeah. Just seemed like a classic looking ahead to the next week game for Miami. Maybe they went out. Very soft. I think Denver's the team to watch for the tanking thing.

They basically just got rid of Frank Clark and Randy Gregory. They were just like, hey guys, take a hike. Sertan could be a big name there. But yeah, I mean, listen, I don't know if you had the Chiefs on the money line, but I was nervous Thursday.

They hung with them, even though the Chiefs had crushed them. By the way, could we do... What are we going to do with primetime? The Chiefs are a boring primetime team. I hate having a boring Chiefs team. Yeah. It's like if the Warriors with Curry just all

decided weren't that fun to watch. Right. It's like, no, come on, man. This is supposed to be a staple of funness. Is it weird that he

hasn't been able to develop any of these receivers? I mean, he's clearly better than Aaron Rodgers, but Aaron Rodgers, I felt, made Valdez Scantling decent. I think Rice is

going to get there. I've seen enough flashes from Rice. Sky Moore, I haven't seen any flashes. None of these guys do anything. They don't seem to be open. I don't know. It's all Taylor Swift. Two more games we have to mention. Washington

Atlanta I lost money on. This was one of those, I have no idea how you lost the game games. They had 29 rushes and 28 completions, Atlanta. So 57 times where something positive was happening. They had a 25 to 13 first down advantage and they had 402 yards total offense and Washington had 193.

And Desmond Ritter just single-handedly killed them. And there was a sequence in this game where he overthrew somebody for a TD. He took a delay game. This is in the red zone. Overthrown TD, delay game. One of the worst picks you'll ever see. Just three plays in a row. And it was like watching those Instagram videos, like those crash videos.

If you follow that and you just get to watch car crashes. Um, it was so bad. It was almost unrecoverable, three picks for him. And I think I might be out. I don't know if I'm going back to the well with him. It was that bad. I think a lot of the pressure of I've never lost the game at home and people like you bragging about that. And's like I can't I can't take it anymore I gotta blow this yeah I don't like them I know you want to figure out who's gonna win that division I think it's crap I don't think it's ever been

crappier than it is right now I mean honestly come on you're making me wonder who's gonna win that division no don't even look don't even look don't even look they lost money last week, not covering when they won. And then this week,

I have no idea how they didn't win that game. Is that line really not up? No, it's up. I just don't want to go. The Saints are plus 150. The Falcons are plus 185. Bucks are 210. And the Panthers are 65 to one.

Is there a fifth choice? Is there a 15 we can wager on? Memphis? Memphis has got to do well, right? Because Memphis... Nobody moves the ball. Offensively, you don't... I had the Saints and they

were awful. Atlanta has the most talent. I mean, that, man. When Pitt scores a touchdown, you're like, oh, maybe the franchise is turning it around. Like, nope, there's three interceptions to come. I don't want to absolve Arthur Smith either because he was on one today,

including when they went for two at the 24 to 16, which I'm okay with if you're a juggernaut, but they're so kind of sketchy in the red zone when Ritter's playing like that. Like, I don't know what makes them think. I just don't get that. I know the nerds love is, oh no, you do that, you get two chances,

but the 24 to 16 just felt like so much harder for them. And the play always sucks. It always sucks to play that call. So the nerds need to pay attention to that too. And then Seattle, Cincy, Seattle dominated the game. That bummed me out. And Geno had a couple horrible red zone trips.

A billion chances to win. Cincy rushed 15 for 46. They only had 15 first downs. They had 214 total yards. Seattle almost doubled basically everything they were doing. I think Seattle might be good. It's weird. I felt worse about Cincy after that game and better about

Seattle because Geno just didn't play well in the red zone. I was all over that game. Yeah, I think they got to the red zone eight times and scored one touchdown. It was bad news. And Metcalf is good for some bonehead play in front of the ref every week. Some kind of personal foul.

He doesn't care. But, yeah, I thought they were the better team. I really did. And that would have been a big-ish win, at least. I don't know that Burrow. I guess he's back for sure. We talked about on the Wise Guys, Jonte, the Bengals. We thought if they won, their division number would go down.

Still plus 490. Well, the other thing is House after your TV show he was all excited he bet Cincinnati to win the Super Bowl he's like

I got excited about Cincinnati during the show the 29-1 I'm just going to bet it because if they beat Seattle the odds would be better the odds got worse they're now 30-1

I know what happened why did the odds get worse backwards I didn't think their offense looked very good. No, I know.

I think if Geno is even like a C+, Seattle wins that game. But I was more interested in the Seattle 46-1 for the Super Bowl. Not that that's going to happen either, but I thought those teams were pretty even. And then the Ravens-Tennessee, which was the London game, which was pretty ugly.

I don't know how Tennessee... That was a bad cover., which was pretty ugly. I don't know how Tennessee... That was a bad cover. That was a bad cover. I don't know how they didn't cover that. Yeah, I don't know how Tennessee didn't cover it. Why isn't Henry... Is Henry not in there? And then give him the ball at the one-yard line?

He's only good for like 12 carries now? It was weird. Baltimore's red zone was bad. I wrote down in my notes, the London games are like highway food when you're super hungry and you don't want to wait until you get to a good town.

So you stop at one of those rest stops that has like the gas station and a subway shop. And then you always feel like there might've been a murder in the men's room like three days before that they just cleaned up. You're just hungry. You're like, all right, I'll just do a turkey sub.

That's the London game. It's like, it's passable. It's on. But I don't think I've ever been like, man, incredible London game. So good. On the West Coast, though, it's like waking yourself up at five in the morning and then going to that turkey sub stop. It's like, why am I doing this?

Oh, and then the last one, Jacksonville Indy. Jacksonville Spanked Indy. I thought Muth Minshew, because he sucks, one, Jacksonville Indy. Jacksonville spanked Indy. I thought with Minshew, because he sucks whenever they just start him, maybe they use an opener like they do in baseball where they don't, like what the Red Sox did

with Nick Pavetta. They don't bring him in until the second quarter. They just have another guy start the first quarter. It's like, oh, here comes Minshew. And then maybe that'll get him going.

That's not bad. Because when he starts, he's awful. You're right. In the spirit of the MLB playoffs, when every team uses seven pitchers now. I like that. I like that idea.

15 forced turnovers for Jacksonville this year. That's a team. I think them and Baltimore. Now that Baltimore is getting healthier, two teams I'm just kind of watching. Because I think both of them have a possibility to elevate. Jacksonville's 4-2. It feels like they've had a disappointing year.

But, you know, 4-2 is not bad. They're in a pretty easy division. I was going to try to convince you to go with Texans plus 390. You act like I don't already have Texans. Oh, wow. They're more fun than Jacksonville. All right. We're

going to take a break, and then we're going to do Guess the Lines with special guest Joe House. I still have not beaten Sal in Guess the Lines this year. And it's going to be hilarious if I beat him this year, but then House beats both of us. And then I still have no wins for the year. So let's take a break. We'll come back with House.

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Visit amex.ca slash business platinum. All right, Joe House is joining us. He flew into LA last night. I fed him with my famous meat sauce. How was the meat sauce house? The meat sauce was outstanding. And you put it in front of a bunch of different well-established palates today and got good reviews from all of them. So big thumbs up. I feel good. Your channel and your inner Italian. I'm proud of you. Yeah. No less than David Chang thought it was delicious. And I was just riding high and feeling great until Jalen Hurts threw that

third to nine pass. And then I just walked around my block a couple of times and wondered what happened to week six. House is going to do a, do a guest lines with us. We watch football all day. How, so you're willing to admit defeat on the new England Patriots or were you

encouraged? Cause that was one of your best bets. What I'd like to say to you is you're welcome. I flew all the way out here to visit you in your own home. I sat in your chair and I know what you want out of this Patriots season. You want a new quarterback. And lo and behold, I sat in there. I went in front of a national television audience on the number one pregame show in America and said that the Patriots would win the game. You are welcome, Bill Simmons. Well, you almost had the cover and then the magical safety. And then I jumped on you, which I haven't done on you in a while. I actually just jumped on house.

Did all the food fly or did you jump on his stomach? I mean, he jumped on my bionic hip. It was perfect. Yeah, he's feeling great. He's flipping around. All right, we're going to do, we're going to do Guest Alliance. Tomorrow, House and I are taping the giant mega over-unders with Rosillo Sal. Have you picked your over-under of the year for NBA yet or you're still doing homework?

I have not yet. I do have a question for you guys. Should I wait for the end to ask it? Yeah, wait till the end. We'll do you guys the lines first. All right, I do have something. House, you got to win this. If you have one more win than Simmons through two months,

it would be spectacular. Then I'd be like Carolina Panthers. Thursday night, Jaguars at the Saints. Terrific. We don't know what the deal with Trevor Lawrence is, but we know he got hurt in the fourth quarter and now he's questionable knee and stuff tomorrow. So I don't know what that does for the line.

I think the Jaguars should be favored though. So I selected house Jaguars by one and a half. What did you have house? I'm happy with the idea of the Jaguars by one and a half. What did you have, House? I'm happy with the idea of the Jaguars favored. And I did see a story that said that Charles Lawrence was walking around. The observation of the press was that he was walking around with no noticeable limp.

So I like them favored by two. What do you got, Simon? I thought it was in the tic-tac zone as well, Simmons, but I ticked instead of tack. I said New Orleans by one and a half.

You are actually right, Simmons. Exactly. One and a half, but Jacksonville is favored. So you're on the board. if Lawrence is healthy,

I think that climbs. Yeah. Right? Don't you think? Don't you think that goes to like two and a half? There's probably still a

little Superdome advantage for the Saints. I've seen enough half? There's probably still a little Superdome advantage for the Saints. It's very little. Very little Superdome advantage. The Saints are not good at home over the last couple years. We had the Saints on one of the TVs today and Kamara looks like he's back but I've been surprised by

the receivers and the car connection. It just seems very sloppy and I don't know who to blame but it's one of those teams like the third and the car connection just seems very sloppy. And I don't know who to blame, but it's one of those teams like the third and eights where the receiver's turning one way and the ball's going the other way and they just don't look like they're in the same position. Yeah, it's a weird batch, right? Like you almost should give up on Michael Thomas.

I feel bad, right? And then Taysom Hill will have seven receptions. Like, wow, that seems good for a guy who doesn't really have a position. And then Olave down 10 will catch a seven-yard pass and do the, you know, like a big celebration. I'm like, hey, we got a ways to go here. So it's a perplexing team. There's a good stat out there.

This is the fourth time that Derek Carr has had a new head coach and offensive coordinator. And each time that he starts in that kind of scenario, his against the spread record is terrible. The next year is when he finally figures out the offense, he starts to be competent. But this year,

it's going to be bad all year, I think. I thought you were going to say he had four different offensive coordinators and each time the person retired from football and just got another job other than ever running an offense again. Sunday's marquee game. House, would you go Ravens

Lions here or would you go Chiefs Chargers? Oh, I like Ravens Lions. I had that as well. Sal, another body bloater, the Chiefs. But we're not fun anymore, Chiefs. Honestly, I think there's three or four teams I want to see in primetime, and they're

not one of them. Dolphins, not my team for sure. Who else? The Rams? Chargers always for fun. I'm always having the Steelers in there for the 55 minutes of sadness, followed by the one great Kenny Pickett drive. Still more excited than the Chiefs.

Sunday marquee, Ravens at home against this kick-ass Lions team. This will be the most discussed game of the week. House, I'll let you go first. Man. I'll just say like Ravens by two. Okay. Sal, I had Ravens by two and a half.

I don't think, I think in the old days, this is a Ravens by three, but we know we've lost a half point for home field. And I'm going to say Ravens by two and a half. Simmons just prices righted you, House. He waited for yours. He went a little bit, tiny bit higher. If he could have gone 2.06, he would have. I said two like House did. You are right, Simmons. It's two and a half. Uh- half. I'm on a little bit of a tear, guys. You got both exactly right, Sal. I know. This is insurmountable, this lead. I'm dedicating tonight's

Guest Alliance to Suzanne Summers who passed away this weekend who is an absolute beloved 70s lady for all of us kids who grew up in the late 60s or early 70s and matured into little kids in the mid-late 70s. She was, I mean, Sal, what was the list?

Linda Carter, Cheryl Ladd, Jacqueline Smith, Suzanne Summers, Catherine Bach, Heather Thomas. Janet's got to hold on now. That's all we got to say, right? When she had the contract holdout, I think it was the first upsetting contract holdout of my entire life. Like even, I don't know whether that happened before after John Hanna and Leon Gray with the Patriots, but there was a whole year of Three's Company where she was just calling them from a phone

because John Ritter and Joyce DeWitt were so mad at her that she was holding out. But she was holding out for as much pay as John Ritter. So history has judged it kindly. She was like Kim Cattrall, but we cared. We were like, oh, yeah, we're back. Absolute legend. No, that was a tough one. All right. The watchables. I got two.

Rams, Steelers. You're right. I put this in the watchables. I want to watch this game. It is in Los Angeles. I'm going to guess 52,000 Pittsburgh fans will be at this game. 55 is in Los Angeles. I'm going to guess 52,000 Pittsburgh fans will be at this game. 55,000.

Does it hold 45? If it holds 45, they'll be 52. Sal, we can round robin it. Sal, what did you have for this game? I was way off. I shouldn't have said anything. I said... Do you want me to go first? I said Pittsburgh. Yeah, go ahead.

You go first. Well, it's Rams home against Pittsburgh. Yeah. I have the Rams favored by three house. Oh, wow. That messes me up because I feel like you can't change your pick house. You're supposed to

write all these down ahead of time, you cheater. Pittsburgh by one. That's what I thought. I'll tell you what. I said Pittsburgh by two and Simmons is right again. Exactly right. I'm not playing this anymore, Simmons. You've never gotten three right in a row. Three in a row to start? This is like a perfect game.

Oh my God. This is stupid. If this wasn't for Suzanne Summers, I would protest. I feel like Don Larson. Suzanne. I mean if this wasn't for Suzanne Summers I would protest but I feel like Don Larson Suzanne just like I just want to do it for her

yeah I think that's the right line we have no idea if Kenny Pickett can play well for 10 minutes in an NFL game I just thought more people

would be betting on Pittsburgh and then they'd have to make them a favor as a result but wow the Rams they think are for real

remember we were talking Rams being a possible a favor as a result. But wow, the Rams, they think are for real. Remember we were talking Rams being a possible worst record team. Oh, I know. I mean, they're three and three. They're already, there's probably no way they're going to have

the worst record. Can I ask you guys something? Yeah. I know you also like Seattle, but how many, who would have to get hurt for the 49ers for you to like the Rams

at 22 to one to win the NFC West? Oh, man. Yeah, that's getting high. Well, have they played the Niners yet? They lost to the Niners. Yeah, they played them for like three quarters. Yeah. So they'd have to win that game.

So that'd be a one-game swing. McCaffrey would have to be out for like five, six weeks. Yeah. Probably the whole year. Yeah. Yeah. I don't see it. So 22 to one does seem pricey.

Yeah. But I would bet on, see what are the Seattle odds at that point? Uh, Seattle is now I can't find them. Seattle's plus eight 50. Whoa, that's too high.

So San Fran is still minus 750 to win that division. I like what we're done with San Francisco now. We loved them for all of September and October. Here's what I don't get. Detroit's only minus 460. Yeah. How are they not winning that division? What scenario would have to happen?

It's ridiculous. I couldn't even tell you who the second best team is in that division. You know, we're in that Keeper League, and I called the J-BBug or I texted the J-Bug today because I was trying to trade him Ramondre Stevenson for Sam Laporta. I like Sam Laporta. He's like, there's no way I'm doing it. We're in a keeper league. I'm like, oh, you're right. We're in a keeper league.

I forgot. He's like, you didn't forget. You were just trying to steal it from me. I was like, no, I really wasn't. I really forgot. I was just trying to make a football trade. Now the J-Bug thinks I was trying to sneak one by him. And I was like, no, I really wasn't. I really forgot. I was just trying to make a football trade. So now the J-Bug thinks I was trying to sneak one by him.

J-Bug is right. Stay on that. All right. Chiefs minus 410. Lions minus 460. Who do we put it with, House? Let's the three of us make something now.

Chiefs minus 410. These are divisions. Oh, man. I love that one. I love the Lions. That only gets us to minus 195 what about Jacksonville

that's plus 152 at Jacksonville you afraid of Houston it's gonna win but it's just not fun what do you think House I agree what does he agree on

I don't know it's not fun enough I don't want to have to root for Jacksonville. Philly? Yeah, Philly's probably the right answer. Do we get to even money with that? Plus 135.

Philly, Detroit. What's the third one? And Kansas City. Plus 135 for the division. Let's do it. I can't do it, but I'm happy to steer you into it. What do you mean you can't do it? I can't.

My team is the other team. You can't do it? Yeah, because it's either Philly it. What do you mean you can't do it? I can. My team is the other team. You can't do it? Yeah, because it's either Philly or my team. Well, then we'll get rid of Philly. No, no. Let's do it. Let's just do it. Plus 135.

What about the Pats are 85 to 1. Some are saying that's good value. Does that get us to 150? Mac Jones is figuring some stuff out today. We'll look into this. What if we put the Browns? Oh. I mean, just for an outlier.

The Brownies? Quarter unit on it. I mean, that's 543. If it's Browns, Eagles, Lions. Or Chiefs. Chiefs, Browns, Lions. Oh, I'm sorry. Chiefs, Browns, Lions. That's what I meant to do. That's pretty good.

We'll discuss later. Next one. Watchables. Kansas City home I meant to do. Yeah. That's pretty good. Yeah. All right. We'll discuss later. We'll revisit this. Yeah. Next one. Watchables. Kansas City home for the Chargers. The missionary position chiefs. Just not that much fun to watch unless they're cutting away to Taylor Swift.

Yeah. I don't know how those two might not be going away. Hot and heavy this weekend. Could be going. What do you got? KC is home against the Chargers. I said five. House?

I think it's more than that. I think I had six. Sal, I swear to God, I also had five written down. I put it right smack dab in the middle of the Vegas zone. Well, you got it wrong. We both got it wrong. House gets it. It is six. House! There you go. You're on the board.

Possible tease. Yeah. That worked out great with the Eagles. The Chiefs never let anyone down. They're still the best team, the Chiefs. We're just always looking for someone else.

Andy Reid was hilarious on Thursday. Yeah. Every once in a while, he has these crazy coach games where you're just wondering what the hell is happening. Unfortunately,

he did it once to house in the playoffs. Oh, against Tennessee. How sad to sell his condo and move into a different place. Marcus Marriott, now he's living in your kitchen Marcus Marriott, you heard it game

I haven't forgotten House declared bankruptcy Do you guys find yourself with the Taylor cutaways like, alright, well now they're going to cut away to Taylor and then they don't and they're like, oh well he caught it one for eight yards now they're going to go and then it's like

why aren't they cutting away to Taylor? I end up getting mad that they don't cut away to her. I'm just trying to figure out any mother of a significant other who you would just joyously talk to for this long. Like, what do they talk about? Every time it cuts to her and the mom, it's just like they're just deep in the happiest conversation. Sal,

when you started dating Melissa, what was the longest, joyous conversation she had with your mom? That she had with her? Yeah, it wasn't very long. She yelled at me. Her mother yelled at me because we were at a wedding and I brought

a little TV and watched the Mets-Yankees World Series under the table. So that was my longest conversation, even to date, I think. Yeah. Fairly watchable. I got three. First one is Cleveland is at Indianapolis, and I have Browns by three.

What do you got, House? Same, same. Browns by three. Right here on my paper. What do you got, House? Same. Same. Browns by three. Right here on my paper. What do we do here? Oh, we tie. It's two and a half, and I said two. I couldn't do math for a minute.

Forgot to factor in the half point. Two and a half. Yeah, you could do that. I'm going to end up at in the Browns. The road team. That's dumb. Although, Sal, I'm going to flag it this time because we flagged it last week this is the

everybody blows smoke up a team's butt now that gets recanted if the whole Deshaun Watson what's really going on here and there's more stuff

comes out and there's some sort of battle between him and the team or whatever if there's some sort of news thing that comes out of this week I think that trumps the smoke. But right now,

the smoke is with the Browns. I got to write that down. It's not in the manual anywhere. Smokey butt. Put that in pencil. Bucs are home for the Falcons. Baker Mayfield against Desmond Ritter. I think House stays away from this game, would be

my guess. You will not have money on either team in this game. What do you pick for a line house? Uh, the bucks are at home. It's bucked by two and a half. No, that's what I had. So,

wow, we all got it. I added two. That's the right one. Half it is. Yeah. I mean, what else could it be?

That's the right number. These are all, well, I'm not going to tip it, but the really two, two is a very popular number these days. One more fairly watchable. I'm just throwing this in here. Seahawks Cardinals. House was

complimenting the Cardinals today as we were watching the pigskin. They're entertaining even when they're down by 14. They play hard. You can't ask for more from a shitty team. Please, neither of you let me tease this game. I'm just going to ask you now.

I'm going to say Seahawks by six and a half, Sal. All right. I said eight. I say seven. House and I split it. It's seven and a half. Wait. Wait a minute.

Did we all split it? No, you two split it because I said six and a half. Wait. Wait a minute. Did we all split it? No, you two split it because I said six and a half. I'm sure you'll cheat and give yourself an extra half point. I have three. House has four. Simmons has five. Okay. Let's go. We're heading into the poop

fecta, which I'm going to have my own poop fecta, which will be part of my parent corner story tonight. The house knows what it is. Buffalo Bills are playing at the New England Patriots. Good. And I promise that the Bills have never been favored

over the Patriots by this many points in New England. But whatever this ends up being, this will points in New England. But whatever this ends up being, this will be the new record. Sal, what'd you have? I wrote my guess down already. I had eight. House? Eight. Eight. That's the number. I had eight and a half.

Oh, shit. It is eight and a half. What? Oh, my fourth one. Are you kidding me? This has never happened, house. I want you to check his sheet house. Go over to whatever room it is. I know it's a big house.

If it takes 20 minutes to get to him. It'd take a half hour. Yeah. They have a tram there. Get to his sheet. I need to see this. I'm teasing the bills. I'm right now.

I'm winning all my Eagles monies back. You liked what you saw an hour ago? Yeah, I liked it. Anytime you can beat the Giants on the second pass interference in a row, only they didn't call that one. That's good. Another possible road favorite, Washington is at the Giants. What do you have, House?

This is your team. My team is definitely favored. I'll say by two. What do you got, Sal? I said Giants by one. Giants by one. I have Washington in the tic-tac zone, one and a half.

You have Washington by one. House, what did you say? Two. He said two. It's one and a half. No way. My fifth one. House,

you got to come every week. This is the only way I win when you're here. It's unbelievable. This is great. I'm starting to think you have sportsbook.fandle.com

on your computer, Simmons, and you go to it before we record. I won 14 straight years. I can't win one of the first seven weeks. No, you can win numbers. Not like this. You can't. The outrage house. Do you want to give us a, your Washington scattering report through six weeks? They're exactly who I thought they would be. If you had told me at the beginning of the season,

that this new team under this new regime, new leadership would be three and three, I would have accepted it. You know, they're looking at the schedule. It's perfectly fine. The big question mark was Sam. How he was forecasted to be one of the bottom three quarterbacks in the league. I don't think he's one of the bottom three quarterbacks in the league. He's passable.

They have good skill on both sides of, you know, offense and defense. Reasonable skill at the skill positions. They of offense and defense. Reasonable skill positions. They have a coaching problem. That's going to get resolved this year and they'll be competitive next year. But to play them at over six and a half wins this year, that still seems reasonable and feasible. They're fine. Rivera

celebrated after a play in the game today. He's alive. I wasn't sure if he was being CGI'd or not, but he actually moved and raised his face and celebrated so I'm with you

Sam Howell I'll say he is atrocious and he's not a bottom three quarterback in the league that's how bad the league is

well that's true we were talking about all the quarter we were trying to figure out why the football wasn't that good today and it just comes down to there's barely

any good quarterbacks could I just tell you what the one o'clock games next week, the matchups are? I know you went over them in your head. So Detroit Baltimore is good. But we have Hoyer against Tyson Badgett if Fields can't play. Oh, God. We have P.J. Walker potentially against Gardner Minshew.

We have Houses Howell against Taylor. Right? Maybe Ty Taylor. Yeah. And Ritter Mayfield is like the main event. That's like

magnificent Morocco Pedro Morales. against KSI. Yeah. I didn't even mention you're Mac Jones Simmons who's also

playing. Yeah, thank you for not mentioning that. There's six games. Might not be Mac next week. Could be a little Malik Cunningham, actually. All right.

Bears home for the Raiders. And I don't know who the Bears quarterback is. And I don't know what the line of this is going to be. I had to say, I couldn't believe it, but I had to say the Bears are

still going to be favorite, even though I don't know who their quarterback is. I just had Bears by one. I think I'm wrong. This is one of the only ones I had no say the Bears are still going to be favorite even though I don't know who their quarterback is I just had Bears by one I think I'm wrong this is one of the only ones I had no feel for what do you have house

Raiders by one okay yeah I had Raiders by one also it's Raiders by three oh Jesus there we go that's not knowing who their QB is

yeah I guess he can't grip a ball so I don't know how long that takes to reconcile no but we don't know who the Raiders QB is. Oh, I see.

Right. Well, I don't think there's much. I don't think they care about that. Honestly. Wait. So the Raiders could be four and three next week. Yeah.

Holy shit. They're favored to be so. That's unbelievable. Jesus. I got to look at this. I got to look at something. Raiders to make the playoffs plus 390. So this

is the last poop FECTA and it involves in my opinion yet another home underdog the Packers at Denver and I went with Packers by one and a half Tic Tac Zone. What do you got house? Packers by two. I'm just going to get up and walk out

and get like, there's like leftover Parmesan in the fridge because Simmons did it again. One and a half? Yeah. That's my sixth one. Let's go. Why don't you be off a half a point so it's not so obvious. You know what? Sometimes when your back's to the wall,

you find out who you are as a guest of lines. What the hell? It's over, House. He's up 8-5 and there's, what, two games left? You know what I did? I listened to our guest of lines

yesterday. With the one we did last week, I listened to it on a Monday. And I realized I wasn't factoring in how Vegas doesn't care as much about home field anymore. I was doing my old school method.

But now, what do they say? It's home field's like one and a half points. That's it? I guess so. I was doing my old school method, but now they get, what do they say? It's home fields, like one and a half points. That's it. I guess recalibrated. Yeah, sure.

You did. I don't know. Did I win already? It's eight five. Yeah. So I guess we could do the last two games. Spanked you guys. Um,

what do we think of that Packers Broncos game? Because I need the Broncos to win that one so the Pats can move into pole position for the second pick in the draft. Wow, you've never had a route for a team like this, right? I love it. Never in basketball, nothing, right? It's got me watching college football.

I'm having a great time. Yeah, good. Oregon-Washington, fun times. Denver, you can't be... I don't like Green Bay either when does Peyton announce that Russell's going to start sitting not this week

right for Stidham Jared Stidham I think they had to get a couple weeks removed from the 70 point garbage because then you can't say it's Russell's fault when you're giving up 70 points. I think they're close.

They could sit him soon. He does look like the game is just too fast for him. They're terrible. It looks like they spent money on the wrong people and they're already getting rid of people. I'm sure they're going to make some trades. I'm worried. I have my make some trades. I'm worried. I have my eye on them.

I'm worried that it's going to be us and them because the Panthers are going to have no incentive because they don't have a pick. Sunday night, fantastic game. Eagles home for the Dolphins. I wrote down my pick. House, what do you have? Eagles by two and a half.

Ooh, Sal, I went higher. I said three and a half ooh Sal I went higher I said three and a half I said three House gets it it is two and a half wow right down the middle can we add a game so House has a chance to catch up by the way there's six by teams Carolina what do they do this

Carolina 0-6 Cincy 3-3 Dallas 3-2 so far Houston 3-3 Jets 3-3 Dallas 3-2 so far Houston 3-3 Jets 3-3 Tennessee 2-4 Can they I mean there's two one week There's six another week

We have to have six off It's going nuts It takes me 40 minutes to do lineups As it is with my dumb fantasy teams Monday night is the 49ers at the Vikings And we have no idea who's playing for the 49ers but I don't know how this line is less than six and a half so I said

49ers by six and a half what do you have house I had it over seven I thought you were going to say at least seven I think it's Niners by seven and a half okay you're probably right Simmons house you split this one It's seven and nice showing Simmons that was really That was a spectacular effort I mean nine

And six of them right on the nose During a bye week So damn suspicious Listen sometimes you just gotta work harder at your craft He did take a little pill It had a big V on it. I don't know. I took a pill.

It looked like a stimulant. I don't know. We have to drug test before we guess the lines now? Sal, how'd you do on baseball playoffs? Oh, bad. I had the Dodgers going far.

You know what? I'm okay with it, though. I mean, I'm not okay with losing money, but a lot of people bitching about the, oh, we had too much rest.

Like, win some games, good teams. Yeah. Just freaking win. You have your rotation in line. Yeah. Just win.

But, I don't know. It's tough. I had a Dodgers-Rangers parlay that lost. Yeah. Which I didn't, I just threw the Dodgers in there

to bump the line. Of course, that didn't work. But I had the Phillies to win the World Series, so I've been on that bandwagon. That's been fun. House, you had Bryce Harper. You never realized he was going to be the favorite athlete

in Philadelphia recent sports history. It's still a little bit of a bitter taste, although it wasn't his fault for why he left Washington. He just didn't have any real meaningful playoff success in Washington. And it felt great when Washington won the World Series without him. Just because I'm a petty sports fan. But he's a stud. I mean, I don't have any problem rooting for him now.

I can't root for you. Can't root for that team. Come on. No one's room for that thing. F. Curson. I got a 212 catcher in their backup catcher. I'll take a match. And the Mets. Yeah. Come on. No one's room for that thing. F. Kirsten. They got a 212 catcher in there. Backup catcher.

F. Kirsten. And the Mets. Yeah. Come on. Let's take a break and do parent corner. After decades of shaky hands caused by debilitating tremors, Sunnybrook was the only hospital in Canada who could provide Andy with something special. Three neurosurgeons, two scientists, one movement disorders coordinator,

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I have a 13-year-old boy, and you can imagine what he's up to. But this has to do with a parent that I believed, Bill Simmons, at one point lived in this house that I'm sitting in right now. And Cousin Sal, I arrived yesterday, and Bill, the gracious host, I had seen this house when it was under construction, but Bill gave me a tour of the house. And I don't know if you've, you've heard about this, what's going on in this house. There is a portion of the house that is,

that, that has, has some supernatural activity. And we, we, we think based on, you know, he's talked about it on the pod a little bit.

It seems, it seems like it's a ghost and it seems like it's a little bit. It seems like it's a ghost, and it seems like it's a little girl. It is a child. We don't know that for a fact. There's been lots of theories. You don't know for a fact that the ghost is a girl? We have a feeling for what room they're in and things like that. I'm on a long tour because, Sal, you've been over here.

It's not a small tour. We're up in that portion of the house. And because of the design and so forth, oh, duck. We have to walk around. So he's like, okay, we're going into that room. We're in that room. He's like, this is where let's make sure that we express our appropriate respect for the supernatural. We do that.

We turn to walk out of the room. And Cousin Sal, I bean myself on the extraordinarily low door jam. I'm trying to walk out of the door. It's way lower than the ceiling. I have the bump on my head. You can almost see it. I thought I was bleeding. And that was, we think, the ghost prank.

The little girl pranked me. So that's why my parent corner is, she got me. She got me right there. Oh, that's your parent? That's your little daughter ghost? She let me sleep last night. She did not come down to the room that I was in. I hope she didn't hear this story.

Yeah, House turns around. He's distracted and hits his head. And what's weird is that's not the only time that's happened in that room. Well, House is tall. What are we talking about? He's like 6'3 and a half. So he hit his head on the floor. It was way lower than the ceiling, though. I couldn't

possibly imagine it. I would blame the fact that house is just an old man at this point. Couldn't see where he was. I want to know where's the parental relationship in this parent corner store. The ghost girl

was your daughter? Apparently I've adopted her now. Ben woke up like five days ago because he was having a dream that somebody was grabbing his arm and he woke having a dream that somebody was grabbing his arm. And he woke up and thought somebody had been grabbing his arm, but nobody was there.

And then proceeded to sleep with my wife because I wasn't here. Sleep with my wife for the next two days. Wow. Anyway, pleasant dreams to that house. Hey, if that happens, I'm coming to your bed. Yeah. All right. Haunted house is his new name wow i like that sal what uh what do you have for parent corner um all right well mine's not as uh as sexy as that but uh you know so my kid my nine-year-old is playing fantasy football for the first time and i think i told this part of it like i wasn't at

his draft i was at our draft simmons and Simmons, in Hollywood when he had a draft. And so I made him a cheat sheet and whatever. But he's one and four. And he's very upset. And it's always the case that he's looking at the projections and he's winning after the Thursday game. And it's like, all right, don't get too excited. You know, weird stuff could happen.

I'm like, let me fix your lineup a little. Let's put Geno Smith over Howell and Carr. And's good here and pick up the San Francisco kicker. Yeah, put him here. All bad advice, right? Montgomery gets hurt. Howell or Carr did better than Geno Smith. Obviously, we know Moody, the San Francisco kicker, what happened to him. So he's at a party tonight. And my wife's at the party too. And she texted me. she's like, hey, Harrison wants to see his fantasy score. Can you go to his iPad and screen grab it? And I said, yeah, okay. And I look at it, he's losing 86, 84, no players left. And I said, he's not going to want to see it. I don't want to send this. He's like, no, no, he really wants to see it. I sent it to him. He comes home and he's furious with me. He's like, not talking to me. He's like, I lost my fantasy game. I lost my flag football game. He lost some shuffleboard game at this kid's party he was playing. He's what you would call a loser. But no, I don't know what to say to him. I was like, you have 60 more years of this,

if you're lucky, and in multiple leagues, and you haven't even started gambling. So I think I need to teach him to start gambling. It's like when you force a kid to smoke and so that they hate it. It's more rapid fire 52 weeks a year. I think you have to. Because he definitely has the gene. He's basically, he's mini you. Oh, yeah. Yeah, exactly.

So my son, similar fantasy story. The first year he started playing, it was an auction. And it was Clyde Edwards Hilaire's rookie year. What was that? Like two years ago, three years ago? And I made him a list of like the top 10. I had Clyde Edwards Hilaire pretty high.

So that was like his big purchase. He still fucking brings it up. It was two years ago. He's like, well, I know I can't ask you for help. You told me to get Clyde Edwards Hilaire. I'm going to be on my fucking deathbed. He's going to be bringing it up.

Remember that year when he was like a $57 running back? Yeah, right. Yeah, it was my fault. I know. Oh, he and that ghost girl are going to strangle you in your sleep. I know. Well, I'll tell her to go after him tonight. Yeah.

My parent corner, I rarely get to do one about the dog, Murph. So we had some food. A couple people came over. Somebody brought donuts, big thing of donuts. There's 12 donuts. And I think we tried to figure out after how many were eaten and they were on like this little table that's in the TV room. And Murph, he was kind of circling the table a couple of times. You always got to be careful for him. And I just kind of lost focus for a second. And House was in here

and we were talking about the podcast. He was packing his computer and I turned around and Murph was where the donuts were. Looking super guilty and was already slinky and was like, oh shit, he caught me. And I see the donut box. He had somehow nudged open the box with his nose to get in the donuts. So I was like, did he eat a donut? So I smell his breath that reeks of donut. So now I'm trying to figure out how many donuts he ate. So now I have to text everybody who was

here like, hey, did you have a donut? Did you have a donut? My son had two donuts. We think there were five donuts left and these were like big donuts. And by the time I caught Murph, there was only two. So when you talk about the poop that we do on Guess the Lines, there's going to be another poop effected at night at about three 30 in the morning is him having diarrhea. So meanwhile, I have guests, the lines tomorrow, you know, our biggest podcast where it's like four hours, I got to be on my game and I know he's going to wake me up with a diarrhea shit at three 30 in the morning. So that's how my day's going to house.

You're just going to hear me screaming later tonight in the middle of the night. And it won't be because of the ghost. It'll be because of the donut diarrhea shit. This dog's three and a half. When is he going to be a good dog? Well, aren't you also concerned? Were they chocolate donuts? Like chocolate's bad for dogs.

Unfortunately, no chocolate. Nothing will kill this dog. No, it was like French Cruller and those apple crumble ones. Yeah, it's really not going to be a good one for us. But as you get, like, like Rembert just got a dog and he's like, it's it's really not going to be a good one for us but as you get like like rembert just got a dog and he's like it's so great i love having a dog and he's like but man you you really if you go anywhere you gotta like figure out what to do with the dog i'm like yeah it's a child yeah

that's what that's what happens with dogs um and nobody tells you about the eating the donuts and shitting all over your uh bedroom part of the dog either right house you have a couple dogs we have two dogs they uh my wife is their parent they sleep where she sleeps like you know half the time i sleep in a different bed in the house all together i don't want to get away from all three of them get away from the dogs yeah we have one and i named it Super Dave. Super Dave Osborne. Oh, that's great.

And I don't, honestly, I think he's made three noises in the year and a half that we've had him. He's a pretty good hang. He's barely a dog. Doesn't really, doesn't really say or do a lot. All right.

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I vote on all that stuff, yeah. I'm interested to see who you like, though. Well, I want to know what it is, really, because it says De'Aaron Fox won last year, right? Yeah. I looked it up, and it said the voting was a runaway. Fox, who led with 194 Clutch four clutch points, got ninety one of one hundred votes. But then I read something that says it's actually based on clutch points, which is defined as the last five minutes of the fourth quarter overtime when the score is within five points. So why do they need to vote on it if it's just a tally of points. Well, no, it's not a tally, but I think people for the clutch,

they look at that, how people put that. There's a stat where it's like the leads less than five, less than five minutes in the game. And they have all these stats about field goal percentage points. And Fox did really well in a bunch of different ways with that. And I think we used a pretty easy boat last year, but it does seem pretty arbitrary. Yeah.

I'm looking at Embiid and Jokic at 18 to 1. Like, wouldn't they have a lot of clutch points if you go down low to those guys? Am I simplifying it? Well, it seems like you're almost better off if it's a team in the mid-40s for wins that's in a lot of closer games versus Denver. Half of their

games, they win by 20. Sacramento was just in a lot of close, fun games last year. Fox was always doing stuff. I think that was a piece of it. Do you have any thoughts, House? Don't bet that. It's a made-up award. It doesn't make any sense for the

reason you just explained. It's completely made-up award. It doesn't make any sense for the reason you just explained. It's completely quantifiable. You can take the four or five different inputs that measure clutch. It doesn't require any subjective input from voters. Well, that's why I'm thinking we might have an advantage here. Plus, we have a buddy here that votes on these and can give us a heads up. That doesn't really ever do that. Come on.

You know how honorable I try to be. I know. I will tell you this though. Yeah. Because I don't know. We won't talk about this for our runners house. So this is a good time

to talk about this. They have the NBA in-season tournament winner bets. And if you actually study how they did the tournament, it's everybody's in these brackets, right? And then you come out of your bracket. The way it's rigged is basically you play everyone else in your bracket.

So it's four games total. And the top, I think there's, I think there's six brackets of five, the top six, and then two wildcard teams, the way they constructed it. That's easy.

That's easy to explain. No, but the way they constructed it is it should favor the best teams. It's not like March Madness where it's like, oh my god, you know, Chicago beat Milwaukee. Can't believe that happened. Milwaukee's out. It's not like that.

You win your bracket or your record and you keep going. So I was looking at the odds for it and like Milwaukee is plus 950 and the Celtics are plus 950. Phoenix is 11-1. Denver's 13-1. All the odds on Fan and like Milwaukee is plus 950 and the Celtics are plus 950. Phoenix is 11-1. Denver's 13-1. All the odds on Fandle are too high. Like the Lakers are 13-1. And you figure like if you're just one of those final eight, which we can probably guess most of the final eight because they're all going to be good teams. There might be one wildcard team where it's

like, oh my God, I can't believe Orlando won their bracket. But for the most part, it's going to be the best teams. And then you'll get to the final eight and you could have a team. Yeah, you can hedge. You can have a team like the Celtics that'll be favored in every single game, but you're getting them at plus 950 now. So I don't know. I want to study it more, but it feels like those odds are all too high. Because remember, House, we were saying with the NBA over-unders a month ago, when we first started talking about them, I was like, the West is too high. The wins are too high. They don't add up. There's too many teams that the playoff odds, they haven't fixed these yet. And then if you look now, the West, I think seven or eight or one win lower in the playoff odds. So I don't think they figured this out correctly yet. Well, let me ask you this. Sorry, House, before you jump in. The only reason they would be high is if the teams didn't care about winning it and some players sat out. That's the only reason that jumps out to me why they would be higher. Is that a possibility?

That's exactly the challenge. Which of the teams, as we enter this upcoming season, is going to do what Utah did, for for instance Utah started last year 10 and 3 and we all had Utah penciled in as one of the worst teams in the league and tended to try and build up more draft capital and stuff some young team that were kind of underrating over the course of the season might come out hot in November and, you know, and just sort of be in position to be like, hey, there's a, what is it? A million bucks? What's the price? What's the players get? They're like a million bucks. It's more than that. It's like, I thought it was like,

isn't it like 500,000 a player or something like that? Right. There is a significant financial incentive. So here to that point, the Celtics, here's who's in their bracket. They have Brooklyn, Toronto, Orlando, and Chicago. All four of those teams, I don't think any of those four have even favored to make

the playoffs. So the odds of the Celtics winning that bracket is pretty good and being a high seed. So you get them at plus 950 now, and then once they get in there, there's eight teams. They'd only have to win one, two, three.

That's it. So I don't know. I just, that one jumped out. They're only minus 150 to win that group you're talking about. Yeah. Yeah. Like the Lakers are,

they're in the same one with Phoenix, Memphis, Portland, and Utah. Like that's way tougher. That seems like that would have more variance. And then Denver, I think has Dallas, the Clippers, New Orleans, and Houston.

But anyway, I wanted to study that because I don't think they figured out the odds correctly yet. Our friends at FanDuel. They got a lot of shit. They have FanDuel. It's like, who's going to go 4-0? Every team that go 4-0 has odds. That's fun. Cal Bridges, 25 or more points. The Rookie of the Year is interesting too

because Wemby is still not a minus for Rookie of the Year. But if you watch those highlights from the last two days, it's pretty bonkers. It feels like if he plays 65 games, it's hard to imagine everyone else winning. But he's plus 110,

Chet's plus 320, and Scootots plus 370 the one that i was looking at for odds just for for fun trying to figure it out was the most improved because everybody is 10 to 1 and up but like house your guy jordan pool is 14 to 1 yeah and like what if he averages like 28 a game for the Wizards or something? 14-0 Winston. What if? You know, I have to do it. Two years in a row, I've taken Zion as most improved.

And now he's sitting there right for me at 120-1. I have to do it. I don't care what you guys say. He's doing it every year until it happens. Of course. Yeah, he's going to improve. Yeah, Shangoon was 30-1. I thought that was a good one. Then Franz Wagner was the one that,

I'm not just saying this because Cerruti's on here, but he was 30-1. And I, you know, he's year three for him and coming off the World Cup, I could see him

really jumping. You're just saying because Cerruti's on here. Sal, who do you like right now? I know you're doing your picks on against the odds this week,

but are you leaning anywhere? No, I'm going to wait for you to tell me Tatum's going to win MVP. And it'll happen. No, I would not tell you. No, about a week before Thanksgiving. No. I like Giannis at 6-1.

I don't even know why. I think maybe there's a little voter fatigue somewhere. And it comes back to him where it worked against him going in. But I think 6-1 is a high number. That's wrong. Jokic is plus 430. Curry is 14-1. I think he has to be mentioned.

And then I would say the case for Tatum would just be if the Celtics were like 64-18 or something, right, House? I wouldn't bet it, though. Yeah, and that one is betting on Joe Mazz, which I'm not going to do. Yeah, you and me both.

The implied variable there is that Joe Mazz is capable. It's funny, Embiid is plus 850, and that almost feels like a cross-off to me. I don't like Lucas team yeah the Giannis at 6-1 is a strong one so

yeah because you won't I just feel like it'll be plus 360 in December you know yeah if you're

looking at long shots maybe Booker at 22-1 if Phoenix was awesome and he was like the catalyst of everything and

Durant missed like 25 games and yet Phoenix still won 55 games. Right. Something like that. I'm going to figure out this clutch thing. I'm going to figure it out. I'm going to, I'm going to figure out the in-season tournament thing because it seems like there's,

there's some, uh, some inefficiency. We have our assignments. Yes. Uh, and house, you just figure out a way to, uh, steer clear of the ghost girls clutches. seems like there's some inefficiency. We have our assignments. Yes. And House, you just figure out a way to steer clear of the ghost girl's clutches. I'm going to wear a heart of that.

Has Wise Guys brought you guys closer or are you exactly the same? Let me tell you, I love seeing House in the morning. It's such a joy. I see he puts the jacket on and I'm like, you know, things are going to be all right. I can go all for six today. It's literally why I did so bad today. I'm not here. I couldn't bring the jacket on the airplane.

Jacket is my secret power. They don't allow jackets on the airplane? Another reason you did bad is he took Mac Jones. I did that just for you. That was my present to you. You're always a good host. I come here, you feed me, you overfeed me. I knew exactly what I was doing with that just for you. That was my present to you. You're always a good host. I come here, you feed me, you overfeed me. I knew exactly what I was doing with that Patriots pick.

All right, Sal, we can see you on Through the Ringer this week and Against All Odds and the Cousin Sal's winning weekend. Yeah, I'm on with Tate. Tate's picking the Chargers. We're going to watch that game together in the Ringer, the Spotify studio there, that big theater. And we're going to, we're going to be at each other's throats because he picked the Chargers.

But I do have a bet boost on Cousin Sal's odds boost on Fandle. What is it? Dak 200 or more yards, fingers crossed, and Pollard to score a touchdown. I feel really good about that.

Plus 170. Oh, nice. Okay. How's Fairway Rollins done for the year? No, we'll pop up here and there. We might even do one this week. Tom Kim won back-to-back out in Vegas. The young prodigy, Tom Kim.

Congrats to him. I haven't really been focused on Tom Kim. Sounds great, though. You should draft him. He should be the next Patriots quarterback. I'll see you for the big extravaganza. Thanks to Kyle Creighton and Steve Cerruti for producing, as always. Sal. I'll see you for the big extravaganza. Thanks to Kyle Creighton and Steve Cerruti for producing as always. Sal, I'll see you next week.

Good job by you. Good job by you, buddy. All right, that's it for the podcast. Thanks to Sal and House. Thanks to Nefkal for producing as always. Thanks to Steve Cerruti as well. I'll see you in the rewatchables on Monday. See you on this feed on Tuesday.

At least a two-parter of NBA, maybe even three. Who knows? We'll see what happens. See you Tuesday. I feel the air twinkling On the wayside I'm a person never lost And I don't have to wait Must be 21 plus in president select states.

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