The Bill Simmons Podcast - NFL Kickoff Chatter With Kyle Brandt and Bill Burr on Tom Brady, College Football, and Comedy | The Bill Simmons Podcast (Ep. 410)

Episode Date: September 6, 2018

HBO and The Ringer's Bill Simmons is joined by 'Good Morning Football' cohost Kyle Brandt to discuss NFL hot takes (3:18). Then Bill sits down with comedy legend Bill Burr to talk about the eras of co...medy, sportscasters, NFL, the pre-Belichick Patriots, Tom Brady, college football stadiums, NHL, and more (41:05). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:19 His guest was Colin Coward. We have a bunch of new Ringer podcasts up this week. NFL, the Ringer NFL show has a new GM Street, new Dynasty football. Last one before the season finally kicks in. Ringer NBA show
Starting point is 00:01:32 is kind of trickling back slowly. We had a Monday pod. Joe House was on that one. He might be on mine this week later on Friday. And if you check out theringer.com, not only will you read
Starting point is 00:01:43 a bunch of football preview stuff written by a bunch of people, Robert Mays did a four-parter. Kevin Clark wrote about Miles Garrett. We have a bunch of stuff there, but we also have a documentary that we did about last year's ringer football draft fantasy, which is now remembered fondly and not so fondly
Starting point is 00:02:02 as the worst fantasy football draft of all time. It is a 14-minute documentary about it. It's kind of indescribable. Check that out. Check out the, if you're looking for videos to watch, we did the NFL wins pool finally. We taped it on Tuesday afternoon. I had the 10th, 12th, and 24th picks.
Starting point is 00:02:20 I won't tell you who I ended up with. It's a fun video. Micah Peters has one of the worst executive performances of all time. Somehow ended up with three AFC South teams. He's almost automatically eliminated himself, which was interesting. So that's all going on. So rewatchables, we did Taken on Monday, and Rounders is next week. Just telling you now.
Starting point is 00:02:43 20th anniversary is coming up. Rounders happening. Sean Fentis and I are taping that this week, and it is going to run at some point next week. Coming up, we have Kyle Brandt from Good Morning Football. And then our old friend Bill Burr is going to come in and talk football and comedy. But first, our friends from Pearl Jam.
Starting point is 00:03:20 All right, we have Bill Burr coming up in a little bit. First, somebody from Good Morning Football that I've had my eye on since he was a young pup in the real world Chicago. And now it's been fun to watch him blossom into a legitimate talking head. Kyle Brin, how are you? I'm nervous, Bill. I'm very nervous. You're not nervous. You're on TV for four... Yes, I am.
Starting point is 00:03:37 You're on TV for four hours a day. You're like barely awake still. What time do you get up every day? Four. I get up at 4 a.m. and I get in at 5am. Do you have a girlfriend? Girlfriend? Wife? Girlfriend? No, I've been married for 8 years. I got two kids, man. I'm a family man. I'm all grown up. And you get up at 4 in the morning?
Starting point is 00:03:54 I have since I met her. I've woken up at 4 in the morning for a decade. My wife doesn't know me any other way. I don't know if that's sustainable. You might have to move on. This Friday night show that you're launching next week, that's a nighttime show, though.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Ish. It's kind of like in the middle of the day, live to tape, as they say. It's on in the evening, so I'll be fine. Bill, all I want is just tell me at what point in this conversation, when can I fanboy out on you? Can I please do it? No, we'll do that the next time when we go backwards. But what about when I used to write you
Starting point is 00:04:28 and I used to submit, I wanted you to post my stuff and I wanted to be the, yep, these are my readers. I wanted to be that guy so bad, Bill. I'm getting it now. That's why I'm nervous. Well, I talked to you
Starting point is 00:04:38 when we were launching The Ringer. I actually emailed you about potentially working for us, but I think I missed the boat. I was like two years too late. I was going to, I think it was more like you didn't like my responses. I think I wrote you some really cheesy stuff. No, no, no, no, no. It was clear that you were on this path to actually like be on TV and do stuff. I was thinking, yeah, you asked me what you want to do. Like you have like a great employer question. What do you want to do? Where do you see yourself in five years? And I remember the answer I gave because I just went for it.
Starting point is 00:05:09 I'm talking to Sims. I'm going to take a shot. And I said something like, you know, I want to be in radio and TV. And I want to be the voice of the 30-something man in America. And I hit send. And I was like, oh, that is the lamest, cheesiest soundbite. He's going to not only delete that, he's going to report spam. I've thought about that since I've sent it. No, it was, it was an honest answer and it was the right
Starting point is 00:05:27 answer. Cause in my head I was thinking maybe this is somebody who could help run the podcast network and have a podcast or two on it. And you were like probably two years ahead of that, but now you have the show that is kind of in the sweet spot of people just kind of like it. And that's it. It's nice. There's no backlash to your show yet. It's just either people like it or they have no opinion whatsoever. It's perfect.
Starting point is 00:05:54 You should just ride this. It's awesome, man. There's very little backlash, which is almost impossible, especially in a new show that comes out with like three people who, quote unquote, never played the game and that you've never heard of. We actually live in like a nice little Club club med and I want to stay there. Yeah. It's nice. These are some arrow were there too.
Starting point is 00:06:11 And a little bit of a bigger audience, but it was the same thing. Like people just liked the show. Nobody was like hate watching it. Nobody was mad about it. Nobody was backlashing it. I didn't, when I heard about the idea for the show, that there was a 12 month a year morning show about football, my, my immediate reaction was what the F are they going to do in May, June, July, March, basically all the times when there's not the draft or the season. I just
Starting point is 00:06:39 didn't understand how it was sustainable, but you guys have turned it into, I don't know, you just have all these gimmicks and little tricks and you bring in pop culture and you figured out a way to sustain it. How long did that take? It took a long time. And I have this conversation all the time. I had it this morning. You meet someone, you're on the train or it's like a friend of your wife's husband or something. They say, what do you do? And then you get to it eventually. And they say, so what do you do when it's not football season? I'm like, we're still on. And then inevitably, well, what do you talk about?
Starting point is 00:07:09 And I would say to you, we try to make the owner's meeting sexy. We do a million things with the combine. We'll be like, well, I mean, honestly, Bill, you get this stuff. It would be like, which Stranger Things character would Gronkowski be? Which would Tywin be Belichick in Game of Thrones? And we just go on and on. And so that's how you get through the grind of OTAs, owners meetings, new rule changes. You just try to make it fun. And it's, I mean, it's heavy lifting for sure. Tonight is like, we get to actually eat dinner. It's so fun. Yeah. Yeah. I, I definitely noticed,
Starting point is 00:07:42 um, the times, the times when I've watched, and I put it on a lot, especially the last four weeks, just trying to figure out who's on what team, where things going, what's happening. But everybody sells for each other, which is the most important thing on TV. It does not happen all the time. I've said this before. TV is like pro wrestling, where when the, when the other guy's
Starting point is 00:08:06 doing his move, you have to make believe it hurts. And if he's doing the finishing move, you have to really sell the shit out of it. And all of you guys seem to like each other and sell the shit out of each other's stuff. I mean, Peter Schrager, impossible guy to like, I don't know how he found three people that, uh, that would sell his moves, but somehow, you know, kudos to him. And it's even harder, Bill, with like with four people at the table. It's not just pro wrestling. It sort of feels like Royal Rumble.
Starting point is 00:08:32 Yeah. You know, when you watch the Rumble, especially the old ones, like it gets real sloppy, real sloppy with the selling. And it's like, you'll see whoever it is, Hawk from Legion of Doom versus Haiku in the corner. And they're basically just kind of doing those like chest slap things over and over. It's bad. So in those moments, that's when we pick up Schrager, who I agree, one of the least likable people in sports. So I do the heavy, heavy lifting for him.
Starting point is 00:08:57 It's tough when you have a villain on your show like that. It's just tough. He's polarizing. No, we're kidding. He's a nice guy. You should have been there this morning when I told him I was going to be talking to you. I felt like we were in the barbershop with Brutus. I wish I could have giffed his face.
Starting point is 00:09:16 He became a human gif, jiff, whatever the hell it is. I should have filmed it for you. He was so, you know what the word is? Crest fallen. Just crest fallen. It was almost like he went monster's ball. Full, he doubled over balling. It was so
Starting point is 00:09:30 beautiful. It was really one of the motivations for this. I was really enjoying the thought of him finding out, him listening, him just sadly in some parking lot in front of a 7-Eleven right now, just waiting for this to end. It's not going to end because we're going to talk football.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Honestly, Peter's like the most supportive, coolest guy ever. He is like the, he's like the, if you need him to be your Marty Jannetty, like to help you to be the star, like he will do it. He will take the drop kick, he'll do it. He's the best. You know, the good thing for you guys, you're just on four hours a day with no pressure because you're trying to build an audience and you're getting just a shitload of reps. And then by the time people discover the show, you've had, you know, you've had all these basically games, right? Just banking, you know? And, uh, I, it's a good way to do the whole thing
Starting point is 00:10:18 worked out. It's good. It's a really good show. And I'm sure you sent a really, like you sent a really cool tweet out of nowhere. We had no idea you were watching. You were saying you, you said nice things about it. Do you remember like idea you were watching. You were saying you said nice things about it. Do you remember when you were watching the show and you tweeted that that day, which was great? Do you remember what we were doing? Because I was trying to think about it with Schrager. I don't know. I was in Boston.
Starting point is 00:10:34 And it was just on. And I was watching it. And it was like fucking June. And the show was entertaining. And I'm like, this is crazy. There's no way this should be entertaining right now. There's nothing going on in football. I've not had a football conversation in six weeks and I don't know how they're doing it. I just, I really admired it. Let's, can we talk football?
Starting point is 00:10:54 Yeah, sure. So you have all these people pass through, you're hearing a lot of takes, you're hearing a lot of points. What point were you most jealous of that you've heard over the last four weeks that you wish you could have stolen like which take yeah which take what was your favorite take that you wish you had just taken yourself there's a lot of like really big strong
Starting point is 00:11:17 Patrick Mahomes takes right now like he everybody is thinking that this is going to be a big thing and I think it's based mostly because he throws it really far and like kind of has cool hair. We were talking about this the other day. I'd be interested in your opinion on this. There's so much dazzle and it's cool and it's fun to watch. I pose the question, does he maybe have like a white chocolate factor?
Starting point is 00:11:38 What I mean, like, does he have a Jason Williams thing going where like he'll do a no look pass that will make every highlight and every tweet. But then at the end of it, like, I don't necessarily know if he has C web and page or nothing like to actually really win. Like he'll be remembered more for highlights than wins. I'm worried that that might be him. That's it. That's, that's a good take. I'm a little jealous of that. I think he's got the cannon arm great name great name Patrick Mahomes is just like a nice quarterback name
Starting point is 00:12:06 it really sounds really sounds strong and then the Andy Reid thing where you just have this body of evidence that whoever Andy Reid's quarterback is the guy puts up stats
Starting point is 00:12:15 and now people just convince themselves that he's going to be good I'm one of those people I think the Chiefs have a chance to be at one seed I've seen Mahomes
Starting point is 00:12:22 play one game and I barely watched it, the Week 17 game, where he came in and he looked really good. Yeah, he threw a no-look. Yeah, we're living off the fumes of that game. But I do think, I do think, Reed, you got to trust the infrastructure a little bit with that. And Mahomes does carry himself like a QB, which sounds stupid,
Starting point is 00:12:43 but I do look for that when I'm watching these guys, like who, even Baker Mayfield, like he just seems like a leader, you know? Yeah. There was one take about Mahomes that I thought was really off, but curious. Someone was saying like, have you heard Pat Mahomes talk? He has an unusual voice. Bad? Someone was saying, I don't, not great.
Starting point is 00:13:03 It's like, it's strange. It's sort of like heavily nasal and kind of up in his throat. And I don't remember where, who said it. Someone like, you know, to command the huddle, you have to have a voice. And this person's not talking symbolically. Actually, like the timbre and pitch of your voice in the huddle. They were questioning his voice. So listen to Mahomes talk after the game this week.
Starting point is 00:13:25 It is a little weird. I'm not good bad. Just it's, it's different. It doesn't sound like your stock, you know, Eli Manning, Drew Brees voice.
Starting point is 00:13:33 It's off. I don't, I don't know if I buy in, but I was, it had my, it turned my head to take. See, if there was backlash for your show right now,
Starting point is 00:13:40 you'd be accused of vocal shaming Mahomes. Like three blog posts about it. Kyle Brandt's at it again'd be accused of vocal shaming Mahomes. Like three blog posts about it. Kyle Brandt's at it again. Now he's vocal shaming Pat Mahomes. We did talk about Mahomes too, Bill. This is wheelhouse for you. We're trying really hard to get him a nickname because someone that cool needs to have one.
Starting point is 00:13:59 And I just, 2 p.m. with him in college and we're like, we're trying. And I think maybe it'll present itself. I've been trying really hard to sell the rooster and it's the rooster so it's like all right he was a red raider in college now he's like a red rooster he's got hair that kind of appears to be like a chicken or a rooster up top and uh my homes and I just think of idioms with home and they come home to roost. I'm workshopping it, but when I say it during a highlight, the rooster is kind of cool.
Starting point is 00:14:30 It seems like Homey has to, or Holmes or something with the home has to be in there. Yeah, if he plays bad, it could be Mahomey the clown for the living color fans, but hopefully that doesn't happen. I think he's going to be good, but that's like one of the fun games this week where Chiefs-Chargers,
Starting point is 00:14:46 both teams getting a lot of hype, and whatever happens, we're going to overreact to the loser. I knew the Chiefs defense wasn't good, and that's the thing. In week one, you can't overreact. I'm trying to steer the ship carefully this year. I am too. I actually
Starting point is 00:15:02 made a vow for this weekend. My one vow is that I will not overreact, especially to the Patriots. Because I mean, we all remember vividly last year when they just got their asses kicked by the Chiefs. That was the takes were jumping into the boat. So no, I don't care if they lose 50 to nothing to Deshaun Watson, the Texans. I'm not going to do it. I will not overreact to them. It's been my entire adult life. And yet I still know there are people who'd be like dynasty over Brady, washed up defense, socks, Belichick done.
Starting point is 00:15:33 It will happen. I almost hope they lose this weekend just so I can see it. Wait, that wasn't the overreaction loss last year. Wasn't it the Panthers? Well, week one was the chiefs. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Oh, that's right.
Starting point is 00:15:44 Oh, they had two overreactions. Yeah. They always have them. You know what the heart, you talked about the off season. How do we do the show in the off season? And this I'll bring it to football. It's so hard to talk about the Patriots because every conversation and inevitably ends with, yeah, but they went every year. Yeah. Like, you know, you're trying to make some things and it's March or it's April and there's nothing going on.
Starting point is 00:16:06 And we have to do a show where like it's game five or game three or whatever of the finals the night before. And we have to come in and talk about, well, there's a picture of Brady throwing footballs off a boat
Starting point is 00:16:15 and try to make some sort of conversation about does this matter and could it be falling apart? And every conversation inevitably just ends with, yeah, but they have Brady and Gronk and Belichick, so they'll be fine. So it's conversation inevitably just ends with, yeah, but they have Brady and Gronk
Starting point is 00:16:25 and Belichick, so they'll be fine. So it's like such a non-starter conversation, even with all their drama, because they always win. How many what happened with Malcolm Butler conversations did you guys have over the nine months? Months. Yeah. I mean, dude, months.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Yeah. And like, I tried to go really heavy with that. And I tried to say, you know, I mean, I don't know where you come out. I think 100% they would have won the game if Malcolm Butler played. Belichick took them away. And they needed one play. One defensive play and they win that game.
Starting point is 00:16:53 And they couldn't make it. The Eagles made one play. The Patriots made zero. Don't you think? I mean, I'd like to talk myself into that, but our front seven was so bad. It was just so awful. I, we never could get a stop or a push or anything.
Starting point is 00:17:08 And I don't know. I, I think about it. I refuse to watch the game. I watched it once, like two weeks afterwards. And, and it really hurts to say this,
Starting point is 00:17:19 but I feel like Belichick got out coached in that game. And he did, you know, it's, we have the lead with 10 minutes left. And then the only thing that can't happen, because we're moving the ball every time we have it, the only thing that can't happen is the eight-minute crippling drive
Starting point is 00:17:33 where we get the ball back and there's barely any time left. And that's what happened. I just wish we had gone balls out and either forced the 50-yard pass that we could get the ball back sooner or get the blitz and the fumble or whatever. It was like, we were in no man's land with the bend, but don't break.
Starting point is 00:17:51 And they were just moving the ball down. And all of a sudden there was no time left. Have you rewatched, have you even seen the replay of the Hail Mary? The last play? Cause it's tantalizing. Well, we had another one there.
Starting point is 00:18:04 We had the one against the Giants. I was there. It was in the end zone I was sitting in. I felt like that was inches away. At least with the Pats, when they lose, you have to really cut their head off Jason Voorhees style. It's the only way.
Starting point is 00:18:19 I thought of another take that just popped in there. To take that, so I was looking at, we were looking at a clip of the Carson Wentz injury. He goes to the Coliseum and gets hurt against the Rams and the season's over and Foles comes in and everything. If that injury doesn't happen, let's say Wentz stays healthy, do the Eagles still win the Super Bowl?
Starting point is 00:18:39 Like, as well as Foles played, he played perfect. I don't know if Wentz really, as good as he is, and I don't know if he could have played that well against the Patriots as Foles played. He played perfect. I don't know if Wentz really, as good as he is, and I don't know if he could have played that well against the Patriots as Foles did. Like, if Wentz doesn't get hurt, do the Patriots win that Super Bowl? Well, and the game before, too, he was really good. It did.
Starting point is 00:18:56 Yeah, spectacular. It gave them the nobody believes in us factor, which, as you know, is the most powerful factor in sports. It's a trump card. And he could not have played better in those last two games. The thing is, the Falcons game, which they really could have lost,
Starting point is 00:19:11 and they're always, when you win a title, there's always like two moments when you could have blown it. But that first and goal the Falcons had, maybe they're not in that situation if Wentz is in there. Maybe the Eagles have already finished that game off or something.
Starting point is 00:19:24 I don't know either. We keep playing, we, we keep playing replay in that cause you know, the, the, it's the kickoff game is the Falcons Eagles. And the last play of the game is mind blowing because Julio Jones had for Julio Jones, kind of like a layup catch that went right through his hands. How did he not make that play? I feel like he has not worn that enough. Everyone says, Oh, Julio, Julio, he's great in fantasy is awesome. Whatever it is. That was a big time miss by a player who's supposed to be the I feel like he has not worn that enough. Everyone says, oh, Julio, Julio, he's great in fantasy, he's awesome, whatever it is. That was a big-time miss by a player who's supposed to be the best in the league. Yeah, it's funny.
Starting point is 00:19:51 When the Pats lost that second Giants Super Bowl and Walker had a pass that Brady overthrew and it really would have been a tough catch for a short guy. And he's had to hear about that for the last seven years and the Julio Jones thing, especially with the fact that the Eagles ended up winning the Super Bowl. I also thought the Rams punt returner
Starting point is 00:20:10 kind of got a free pass from the playoffs. He got destroyed. Yeah, he literally ruined that game for them. And I think that I'm picking the Rams to win the Super Bowl. That's one of the things. I promised today that I would give my Super Bowl pick, and I am going with the Rams and the Chiefs. You are?
Starting point is 00:20:33 Yeah, the Rams over the Chiefs in the Super Bowl. Bill, you think Mahomes is going to get to the Super Bowl? I know. He's going to go through Foxborough? How's that going to go? I know. It's lunacy. I love it.
Starting point is 00:20:42 I don't know if he's going to have to go through Foxborough is the thing. Oh no, what happened? Well, I think the Pats win the AFC East, but I don't feel like this is a 13 and three type Pats team. This feels like where they were in the 09, 2010 range. When they used to lose to the Ravens sometimes. Yeah, like 10 and six, 11 and five.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Maybe they have to go on the road at some point. And I don't know. I'm very, very concerned about the receiving situation, Brady's age, the kind of really mediocre running back crew, unless Sonny Michel can somehow get healthy. But Deion Lewis was the best player on the team in November and December. And he's just not there anymore. And now you don't have the second receiver for four weeks. And I'm not convinced Edelman's going to be a hundred percent when he comes back. I'm not trying to do this guy's falling stuff, but I just don't think, I'm not sure they're a slam dunk like they were in years past. Like two years ago, I was like, wow, this
Starting point is 00:21:40 team's loaded. We're going to be really good. I'm not sure I see it the same way this year. I know I'm not supposed to say this, but does it not feel maybe like it might be a Brady injury year? Oh my God. It has to. It does. It has to. It has to.
Starting point is 00:21:58 You can't play that long and not get hurt. Yeah. Well, the thing is nobody can touch a quarterback anymore. So maybe somebody doesn't get flagged and you forget that he's found, you know, a miraculous way to recover after every game. Thanks to his, his spiritual guru,
Starting point is 00:22:15 Alex Guerrero. That's the man. Alex Guerrero, the lessons he's learned about pliability and dieting. He can't get hurt anymore, but yeah, it is. He's creating superheroes.
Starting point is 00:22:25 It is ridiculous though. He's 41 and we're just penciling him every year. I swore that I wasn't going to take him in my fantasy auction on Tuesday night. And all of a sudden it was eight bucks and our auction guy was going, all right, Brady, eight bucks. Nobody wants him for nine.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Go on once. And I was like, fuck this. And I bid nine. I just couldn't let him go for eight. It's Tom Brady. But at some point it's, it's going to end because these things end and this is what happens. Yeah. But for eight, you got the rest, you got like, it's like getting the wrestler and the pro wrestling manager. It's he and Guerrero. It's a package deal. It's like he drafted him and Mr. Fuji or Slick or whoever, like whoever Guerrero is, you got two of them though. Yeah, that's true. Well, I wanted to get Edelman cause I like whoever Guerrero is, you got two of them, Bill. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Well, I wanted to get Edelman because I wanted the Guerrero daily double, but somebody went in and snared him. But yeah, it was interesting watching the quarterback, like just in fantasy, what a weird, like Rodgers is, I was in two drafts. One was like snake draft. The other was an auction.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Rodgers was the number one and he went for twice as much as any other QB. But like I got Phil Rivers for a dollar. I got Goff for $4. It does seem like there's a lot of quarterbacks people like this year, which maybe like 16, 17. I think that's one of the reasons when I was looking at the week one slate and I was like getting genuinely excited for football.
Starting point is 00:23:41 I always get excited for it every year. But this year I was like, whoa. There's a lot going on this year I was like, whoa, there's a lot going on this year. But it's because of the quarterbacks because you look at teams now and you go, oh, the Niners, Garoppolo.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Oh, I'm excited to see Pat Mahomes. And oh, Trubisky in the RPO. Okay, maybe. And you go on down the line and there's just, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:01 I don't want to, I don't want to say we're in a, this is like a hot stretch for quarterbacks, but it's an interesting stretch. There's a lot of like interesting guys. And like, you just, it's where I like this year. I think why this year is so exciting is, you know, we sometimes we'll talk in the morning. We love talking NBA on our show. Like Nate and Peter and I, especially, we love talking basketball.
Starting point is 00:24:19 And like, there's this idea that you just know what team or what two teams or three teams are going to be there. It's, It's deflating for me as a basketball fan. But if you look at the NFC this year, there's 16 teams. I can make a reasonable case, in fact a strong one, that 10 of them could win the Super Bowl. And I have no clue. I mean, there's three teams alone in the NFC South who are great. The NFC West is going to be huge this year. It's such a cool year because it's not going to be chalk.
Starting point is 00:24:48 We did our predictions this week about who's going to be in the Superbowl, who's going to win the division. And it was all over the map. Like it's, it is going to be, I feel like a little bit of like a September madness, like bracket busting type deal, because I don't know who the hell is going to come out of the NFC or NFC.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Does Nate Burleson ever talk about, you know, seven when he was on my fantasy team that was the best fantasy team I ever had? Does that come up? We talked Nate fantasy, yes. So you had him the thousand yard season. I had him, no, I had him, he had like a-
Starting point is 00:25:15 We had him in Minnesota? There was one year where he had like nine TDs. He was on Seattle. And it was the same year when I had the Brady FU season and Tomlinson and Adrian Peterson and Wes Walker. And people are still talking about it. It's been 11 years. What was the name of that team?
Starting point is 00:25:33 I had a double deuce. My team's always been the double deuce after the fucking Roadhouse bar. We love you. It's one of those pop culture things that seemed funny 15 years ago, but now it's like double deuce. What's that? Kyle, you know what the double deuce is? No, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:25:47 I'm sorry. I don't. Have you seen Roadhouse, Neffy Kyle? Yes. That was the bar in Roadhouse. Yeah. I got to work on that. Sorry, man.
Starting point is 00:25:54 The liquor in this town is supplied by Brad Wesley. Just tell him that. Look that up. I saw a clip today on my Twitter feed with Schrager picking Rodgers for the MVP. That felt 75% genuine and 25% complete suck up to Rodgers. Like he definitely texted it to him right after. Hey man, no pressure. Like I just felt the suck up juice in it.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Do you think Rodgers is the MVP this year? Well, I took a shot with my MVP pickp pick we we do these things we're like okay who do you think is gonna be a vp we need to be rookie of the year and i'm always caught in this thing where what i really probably think will happen and what i think will make entertaining tv like you have to walk the line if the four of us say i don't know rogers brady cam drew that's just like that sucks it's just like a stock segment where we all think it's going to be the Patriots or the Super Bowl. I said, screw it. I'm going to take a shot
Starting point is 00:26:50 that's still justifiable. I said Derek Carr is going to win the MVP. I just went for it. I justified it by saying this. Their defense is probably going to be terrible. He's going to probably have to put up really big numbers. Two years ago in 2016 he was in the MVP conversation. And if you go back 20 years, there was a middling NFL
Starting point is 00:27:09 quarterback named Rich Gannon who was carving out a living and it was a little backup, little starter. And then Gruden came on and turned him into the MVP of the league. So if the Gruden car thing hits and he looks like he did in 2016 or even better. I got a shot. Did you do this before the Clue Mac trade? Well, this is kind of how TV works. They want to get your picks early so they can get their graphics ready and things like that. And so,
Starting point is 00:27:35 yes, I did it before the Clue Mac trade. And then you talk to like your segment producer and they're, well, I know you say, look, they just traded Mac. I can't do car for the MVP.
Starting point is 00:27:42 And I'm like, well, maybe now it's an even bolder choice. So I just said, screw it, because who's going to care in six months anyways? And it got me fired up to talk about it. I don't know if bold is the word I would use. What's the word?
Starting point is 00:27:54 You're a wordsmith. I would use reckless. Yeah, that's a good word. But I will say this about Peter and then Rodgers. There's a thing that happened recently. It's certainly for me. I think Aaron Rogers, I know he just started following me on Twitter and I think he recently started following Schrager. So there's something that happens when you see so-and-so starts
Starting point is 00:28:17 following you and you see the little circle and it's a picture of Aaron Rogers and you're like, oh, that must be a fake account or like a fan account. And then you click it and you're like, oh my God, the real Aaron Rogers follows me. And then you click it, and you're like, oh, my God, the real Aaron Rodgers follows me. Fast forward to the next day, and you're saying, who's going to come out of the NFC North? And you're like, dang, Aaron Rodgers watches the show. It does get into your head. It is a little voice that they like you,
Starting point is 00:28:37 or they're into what you have to say. So you have to swat it out of there, or they'll just say Aaron Rodgers is going to throw for 80 touchdowns because Kirk Cousins doesn't follow me on Twitter, neither does Stafford. You can't do it. Right. I was in that situation on countdown for those two years. Cause all those guys watch that. They just, they're in their hotel suites watching basketball all day. And you are conscious of everything I say. I remember one time Draymond Green got really upset. Cause I said he couldn't make
Starting point is 00:29:01 threes. He was like a rookie. And by the way, he couldn't make threes. But he came at me on Twitter. I was like, oh, that's interesting. I always felt like that made me want to push the envelope more with stuff. You know, especially like... But positively or negatively? Like if you find out Boogie Cousins follows you and then he like does something that's kind
Starting point is 00:29:19 of dumb, like do you give him a pass? Are you more likely? Because, you know, he's into you, dude. He's a fan of yours. Well, he, he was, and he was on my podcast. And then I made the case how he shouldn't have been in the all NBA conversation two, three years ago. And he blocked me and it's still, he blocked me and it still hurts. It really does. I felt like I was, I was in the front seat of the boogie bandwagon. And at least he blocked something. That was a good
Starting point is 00:29:50 joke. Thank you. Basketball joke. I think the basketball guys in general are more sensitive than the football players. Are they? I think so. Yeah. And also more aware of what's going on. I really feel like you could say whatever you want about Le'Veon Bell on TV today and there's probably no chance he's watching your show. Right? Yeah, you could say whatever you want about Le'Veon Bell on TV today,
Starting point is 00:30:05 and there's probably no chance he's watching your show. Right. Yeah. You know, it's funny you say that Le'Veon Bell, I think, you know, you said that you started this conversation saying that, you know, uh, people we've had no backlash. People like us who don't like us. I think Le'Veon Bell hates our show. He's one of the only people of stature. He called me out on Twitter, which in a way I was fired by. It was very exciting. And then here's the thing. And tell me where you come out on this. You have a high profile athlete who calls you out, says something about you and takes a shot at you. And he said some dumb line about like, I'm going to come and pop up on you like toast or something. I mean, like it was pretty lame. So then I'm in this decision.
Starting point is 00:30:45 I'm like, should I fire back at Le'Veon Bell? Cause I got a few good things I could say to him and quote unquote win Twitter. But then I'm in Twitter beef. Yeah. I fucking hate Twitter beef. Can't do Twitter beef.
Starting point is 00:30:57 It's pathetic. You don't want to end up in the blog post. Yeah. You don't want to end up in the blog post where people are debating who won your Twitter beef. That's not, not great. Not a great look. I think some people want to end up in the blog post where people are debating who won your Twitter beef. That's not great. Not a great look. I think some people want to be in those blog posts or something, but that is my nightmare.
Starting point is 00:31:11 I don't want to be in that ever. So I put it in a draft folder and don't return fire unless I'm completely forced to be. But I know what you're saying. Those posts, they have like 12 tweets and they're like, point one for this one, point one for this one. And they say, who won? That makes my skin crawl. I never want to be in this. Well, you had last year, you,
Starting point is 00:31:30 who was the guy who came on and he was like super dismissive of you and Schrager? Yeah, that was D'Angelo Williams. Yeah, and he was a dick. Le'Veon was related to that. Yeah, he was trying to be a dick to you guys. And it was a really weird watch. I actually thought you handled it pretty well, both of you guys. Yeah, it was really surprising because we don't fight on our show.
Starting point is 00:31:52 We don't call guys out. We just have fun. We have a good time. It's like a little party. And I think if D'Angelo Williams came on, and we're having a normal interview, and then it honestly kind of hit the brakes and pointed at me and Schrager across the table. And I remember because he physically pointed, like, not with his index index finger, with his index finger and his pinky like devil horns. It was really strange. And he pointed like that. And he was like, but you two have never played the game.
Starting point is 00:32:14 And then we were into the like the really Bush League. You've never played the game conversation. I think personally I think he was like trying to do some like Kirkland brand LeVar Ball thing where he comes and makes a splash and then gets a job or something out of it I think he was just trying to make an impression
Starting point is 00:32:31 but it was odd man yeah it was super awkward I enjoyed it though yeah thanks that makes one of us give me a give me a a real Super Bowl pick
Starting point is 00:32:40 not a trying to be bold the producer pushing pushing you to make a splash back. Yeah, sure. No, I think for the first time in, I don't know, what is it, 25, 30-something years, I think it's going to be a Super Bowl rematch.
Starting point is 00:32:53 I think it's going to be Eagles-Patriots. I do. The Eagles stuff, they were only two point, when Sal and I had to guess the lines, they were only two point favorites at home. And there just seems to be a lot of people trying to talk themselves into the Eagles are going to have a really disappointing season. And now I feel like it's maybe that's stupid. I do too.
Starting point is 00:33:13 We see these Super Bowl teams, they get fleeced. Their coordinators leave and all their players leave and they get these terrible contracts with other teams because they're kind of like you win a Super Bowl and you're kind of like nouveau famous and people pay you big money. I don't, I can't think of a team in my adult life who won the Superbowl and then got better more than the Eagles did.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Like they added so many good players and they still have that deal where Wentz is on his rookie contract so they can afford them. I mean, they added Michael Bennett was one of the best players in football a couple years ago, and Elodie Nata, and Darren Sproles is back, and Jason Peters is back. And I think people are kind of trying to turn the page on them, but they got so much better in the offseason.
Starting point is 00:33:55 I think they're loaded still. I don't care who the quarterback is. What's your real MVP pick, not the Derek Carr, people are going to throw that in your face in about a week, pick? You know what's funny? Instead of Carr, I was thinking about taking Garoppolo. Ooh, Jimmy. I think Jimmy's going to work.
Starting point is 00:34:12 I mean, I don't know if he's going to win the MVP or not, but we also, I'll tell you this, we had to do wild upset pick for week one, and I think one of the biggest ones that could be is the one I picked. I think the Niners go into Minnesota and win that game. I like that. I've been looking at that one as picked. I think the Niners go into Minnesota and win that game. I like that. I've been looking at that one as well. What kind of points we got on that?
Starting point is 00:34:29 I mean, it must be huge, right? That's the survivor pick for the week. It's like seven. No, the survivor pick for the week is Saints-Bucks. Like, that's like the safest one. Yeah, and the Saints at home, and the Saints, you know, they're going to put up points. But wouldn't you feel safer if it was Jameis Bucks instead of Fitzpatrick Bucks?
Starting point is 00:34:48 I mean, he's better than Jameis. He is. I honestly don't feel safe with either of them. I know. They make me feel unsafe. Who do you have as your real MVP pick? It'll probably be Rodgers. I think Rodgers is the best player in football.
Starting point is 00:35:05 I do. At any position, I think hegers is the best player in football. I do. At any position, I think he's the guy. I love Brady. I love what he does, but Rodgers is Pennywise or something. He's some sort of strange football devil and whether you're just a fan who watches the game or you're part of the dark room mafia who really gets into the tape
Starting point is 00:35:21 and breaks it down in an arm trajectory and all that stuff, there's no one who does it better and i think jimmy graham is going to be a monster in fantasy and then like what what's not as sexy is that like the the packers d line just got really good got mike daniels and muhammad wilkerson i think that'll matter when they play minnesota and i just think it's it's like i don't think it's his best team, but it's sort of like in basketball, like when you just have that crazy, crazy two or three who can carry the team all the way. I mean, I think
Starting point is 00:35:51 he is the guy. I think Rodgers will be the MVP. I'm picking Gurley. Running back. Yeah. It doesn't happen. I'm going off the board a little bit. I think the Rams are going to be the best regular season team. I am all in on the Rams with a, I think they have the best chance of anyone to put up the old 14 and two
Starting point is 00:36:10 kind of range season, especially with the division they're in. And I don't know. I just, I think they're loaded. I love their coach. I like the fact that they didn't have too much success last year. They got a taste of it, but not really. And now people seem to be, oh, the Rams. Well, you know, and it's like, well, nothing really happened for them last year. And now this is the year they move forward. I just think they're loaded. They are loaded.
Starting point is 00:36:37 It's funny. Goff, nobody really respected in either fantasy draft I was in. And yet everybody was taking receivers on that team. They took three receivers. I think all of them got taken in the snake draft. And the auction, two of them were expensive. And then I stole Robert Woods for a dollar. But if he has all these receivers and he put up stats last year,
Starting point is 00:37:02 I think he had like 3,800 yards and 28 TDs, something like that. And really didn't get going until, I don't know, week four, week five. Um, I could see him taking a leap too.
Starting point is 00:37:12 I just liked the team. I'd like to tame and you invest in McVay. I remember when they got, I think when they got Sue and they were bringing in to leave and everyone's on Twitter. And I said something about, like I said, here's a look at, look at the 2018 Rams defense.
Starting point is 00:37:27 And I did a picture of like all the guys, Jesse Ventura and Bill Duke and Schwarzenegger from predator, like in the jungle, like this is the defense. And then of course, all the people responded and said, dude, every person in that picture dies in the end except for Schwarzenegger. So I'm like, I kind of got embarrassed by that, but it's you. The only problem with them is like, I don't know, is it too much? Like sometimes you see these dream teams and everyone was talking about when Vince Young was an Eagles backup and they had Nnamdi Asamoah and they were so loaded.
Starting point is 00:37:54 So many name players. It doesn't always work out that way. It doesn't. Even if you have a lot of cool players, it doesn't always work. It doesn't. And I think the difference in this case is they have a top four coach. And, you know, what was that, that Eagles team when they had the super team, who was that? Was that still Andy Reed or had he moved on? Yeah, it was Reed and McNabb. And I remember everyone was freaking out
Starting point is 00:38:15 because they signed Nnamdi Asomwa, Raiders corner, who like, I think never made a play after. But, but part of the problem was they, their QB wasn't that good you know and then the chemistry was weird and Reid had kind of been there too long and to me this feels like they have the trajectory of the coach and the QB is still going up I do too
Starting point is 00:38:37 I think everyone's looking for the McVay that's why I don't feel like the super team thing is as similar that one felt like the 2012 Lakers when the Eagles did that, where they're just throwing dudes together. I also think they're in a city that there's good pressure, but not like crazy psycho pressure. Like if the Bears start out six and one,
Starting point is 00:39:02 everyone in Chicago is going to lose their fucking minds. And that brings its own pressure. The Rams can kind of just do their thing and take week to week. They have their fans over here. Everybody here is going to be
Starting point is 00:39:12 way more excited about the Dodgers than LeBron. And that's just the way it is. I mean, when LeBron starts in October and the Rams are six and oh,
Starting point is 00:39:21 isn't the buzz factor going to go just way down in that weird rented stadium? It feels like they're sleeping on a futon for a few years. It's not sexy like it should be, Jack. No, but that's, I think that's weirdly good for them. I do, too.
Starting point is 00:39:37 They can kind of be under the radar and just bang out wins. I believe in McVay. I think they have the most talent. All right, we have to go. Come back and you can tell. I think they have the most talent. All right, we have to go. Come back and you can tell. I didn't get the fan boy out yet. We got Bill Burr coming up next. Oh, he's a legend. So next time we'll have to go backwards and do the whole real world thing. Let's do it. And I want to talk about you and I having tequila at the Super Bowl week when I met
Starting point is 00:40:01 you and me trying to make Pearl Jam references they didn't get and the email I sent you in 2001 about Temptation Island. I got all kinds of stuff. I'll talk real world all day. We'll hit that. We'll hit that next time. Say hi to the Good Morning Football crew for us. Good luck with the season.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Talk to you soon. Bill, thanks for having me, man. All right. Let's take a quick break. Here's why I'm a big fan of SimpliSafe Home Security. SimpliSafe, ready for anything that gets thrown at it. If a storm takes out your power, SimpliSafe is ready. If an intruder cuts your phone line, SimpliSafe is ready. Say they destroy your keypad or siren, SimpliSafe will still get you the help you need. Here's what I
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Starting point is 00:41:10 NHL this far basketball arenas you're doing all basketball arenas NHL arenas with the surface area of the ice it's less seats
Starting point is 00:41:18 yeah no not all I got a couple I got one in doing the TD Bank North Garden in Boston October 5th. I have the LA Forum on, I think that's September 28th or something.
Starting point is 00:41:31 That's the first one. And then I'm doing Madison Square Garden on November 7th. You have to make some LA Forum jokes about all the sex that happened in there in the 80s. You know, they used to have the home games and then they would go right next door to the forum club and things would happen. The airborne AIDS that they had to fumigate out of there before they redid it. Yeah. There was a lot of fucking going on according to some of the stories that you heard. And why wouldn't you be?
Starting point is 00:41:54 You know what I mean? Yeah. Everybody behaved the way we all would have behaved if we were given those gifts. It's very easy to be ugly and out of shape and sit on a couch and live and, you know, not break any of the commandments. It was funny that they had all these dudes who were getting it down and then AC Green, the Virgin and Kurt Rambis. And Kareem, who was kind of like his own version of one of a kind, seven foot four guy. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:42:19 Not too friendly. I know AC Green, he was definitely, yeah, but you know, AC kept his money though, right? He did. That's right? He did. That's right. He did. No women doing all that crazy stuff with the turkey baster, the discarded prophylactic. Who was that, Boris Becker?
Starting point is 00:42:34 No, I don't know who it was. It was like something on the road. These women would bang the guy, he'd wear a condom, and then these people that try to educate these kids coming to the league go flush the condom. Right. They'll poke a hole in it. All that stuff.
Starting point is 00:42:48 No, they'll take like a turkey baster, try to get your semen out of it and then shoot it into them like they're, you ever see those, those rednecks when they're like, they shoot the apple cider into like a pork butt? Yeah, they do that with semen. Another move is if they. I mean, I'm just, you know from this is just stories i've heard i obviously this does not happen to comedians on the road turkey basters yeah no i thought the other thing they would do is they would supply the condom but there would be a hole poked in it at the top so stuff would get out so they were okay yeah there was all yeah and none of that there's no laws you know with all this progressive stuff going on right now, Me Too and all this and all the things that guys do to women,
Starting point is 00:43:27 we're just, as always, looking on the male side of the ledger. You think condom poking should be a bigger- Condom poking, I think there should be some sort of hashtag for that. Some PSAs. Yeah. I had a one night stand and now I'm a dad. Hashtag Me Too. When was the first time you sold out an arena?
Starting point is 00:43:51 Because that's kind of the last stage, right? Oh, before crack addiction. Yeah. Then I just totally tailspin into the ground. Then I come back with the book, an older, wiser Bill, you know, and you tell me how great I look when I come back. Well, you can never do a football stadium. Looking at back. Well, you could never do a football stadium. Looking at my fake teeth. You could never do a football stadium.
Starting point is 00:44:09 The most you could do is like 20,000, right? Kevin Hart did one. A football stadium? Kevin Hart sold out the Eagles football stadium. What? Yeah. I think he sold more tickets than the Eagles that week. This is before they won the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:44:21 No disrespect. I'm just saying. Yeah. Yeah. So I guess maybe the key would be the giant video board this is before they won the super bowl no disrespect i'm just saying uh yeah yeah so i guess maybe the the key would be the giant video board because there's no way you could see kevin hart from even like the fifth row much less yeah 150 um yeah what that you know you also have to be like there's this beyond like the talent he has and the the the star power and all that there's a certain level of mentality you have to
Starting point is 00:44:45 have to be able to handle something that or even to want to do something that big yeah the own the room mentality uh yeah that freddie mercury thing where he turns uh of uh the wembley arena into like a coffee house so um you know there's certain people that should be doing that so we we tried me personally i'm just trying to you know vacuum up a little bit of money before i just retire no i'm kidding i'm uh i'm looking forward to these these are uh what i do what i do to make them sort of like not as crazy yeah is uh i play drums as a hobby so i always rent some gear me my friends and we get together and we jam in like the empty arena just playing you know hair metal and all this shit we grew up on Guns N' Roses and stuff like that and
Starting point is 00:45:31 it just kind of turns it into like a clubhouse vibe and you just don't feel like yeah and then it just feels like then a couple hours later you go out and you do the show you've already made a lot of noise in there so it doesn't seem that crazy did you did you uh do this like you sit down the same set that you do each time or do you mix it up no no no i i you know i kind of know what i know what i'm starting with and i kind of know what i'm ending with and i kind of know the middle and it's just kind of like all how you know you say something that makes you think of this joke then i do that joke it's just kind of like all how, you know, you say something that makes you think of this joke, then I do that joke.
Starting point is 00:46:11 It's not like there's this, you know, this giant puzzle in my head of how it goes together. There's a through line of my moronic opinion that can kind of tie any one of the jokes together that, you know, you just kind of listen to an idiot who hopefully is funny is basically my formula. When, who was, Dane Cook, I remember, sold out an arena and it was a big deal. Now, Dane Cook-
Starting point is 00:46:29 That hadn't happened before, right? Oh no, that's happened. Yeah, yeah. Who did it before Dane Cook? I think- I mean, going back into the 70s and 80s, stuff like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:38 Steve Martin played like- But for the modern era, that was like, I remember that being kind of a big deal. Then Dice Clay. Oh yeah, Dice did, had a nice run there. Then Dice Clay. Oh yeah, Dice did a nice run there. Dice did it. And then after Dice, Dice was kind of like the last guy to hit 400,
Starting point is 00:46:52 you know, like Ted Williams. And then it just stopped. Like it doesn't happen. He was like the last guy to play in arena. And then it didn't happen again until Dane Cook basically taught everybody the power of social media like he really was a um uh way out ahead of everybody else and then of course what was funny once everybody saw
Starting point is 00:47:15 Dane get to the level that he did you know people just all all the scuttlebutt around all he did was this it's everybody thinks like oh now I'll get a zillion fans on MySpace and then I'll sell out Madison Square Garden. And it's just like, but you forget you're not him. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's like when Louis put out a special
Starting point is 00:47:38 and he's just like, I'm just going to put it out for five bucks. And it's just like, dude, he made all his money back. He made a profit. And then other people tried to do it and they lost their shirt it's because it's like you're not him so you have to kind of uh you have to have an understanding of where you are in the business you know rather than just going like you got to you know somebody has to be like within you know you're running them
Starting point is 00:48:01 down like you're within their their wheelhouse if you're going to try to do something that they're going to do i mean if you're on the pavement and somebody's in the penthouse and they're just going to do something oh i'm going to do that and then i'll be in a penthouse it's just like no dude you're going to be still walking around the block with the sandwich board you gotta you gotta do some sandwich board shit to try to get you know to get in the lobby and then you work your way up the building. At least that's, that's how it worked for me. Has he been the most resented comic like of your kind of generation? Who? Cause Dane Cook. Cause I remember when that whole thing went down.
Starting point is 00:48:32 No, I was. People were like, it was like he was gaming the system because he was reaching out to his fans online, which now everybody does. I thought, you know, he got a, he got more than his share, but there's, there's one of these things where it's just like, you're not going to do like, I'm doing like three of these things. He literally had the same road schedule as the Celtics.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Right. You know what I mean? And it was like, you can't do that and be out there. The hottest women in the world want to bang you. You're making all this money. You can't do that and not have a back. The backlash is, it's just going to come. So, you know, and it did.
Starting point is 00:49:14 That was a weird era for comedy. It was kind of between two eras. Yeah. Now this current era feels like a boom. And also Dave kind of went away. Dave Chappelle went away that caused like this big void. was kind of like you know when bird magic retired and then jordan left for those two years like the nba was weird it's like when snl gets like a new cast and you're like is it ever going to be funny again and it takes them a couple years and then they have like those
Starting point is 00:49:38 characters then you're like it's great again it's great again it's great again and then they all leave to go do movies and move on with their careers and then you then it like leagues kind of go through that shit i guess i guess maybe stand-up does i never really looked at it that way i think that's definitely true it also depends on what the outside forces are you know like he had like the late 80s early 90s he had those hbo and comedian shows and comedy central was giving everybody a special and stuff like that and then everything kind of splintered out. And now the Netflix thing, the amount of money that they've spent on standup and the platform they have, it seems like it's transformed a lot of this stuff.
Starting point is 00:50:14 Yeah. Where you can now, if you get a special on Netflix and it, and it hits, you can tour globally. Yeah. Like I have an Eastern European tour coming up. Shut up.
Starting point is 00:50:23 Makes no sense. I mean, you're going to Eastern Europe to do comedy. Yeah. Like I have an Eastern European tour coming up. Shut up. Makes no sense. I mean, you're going to Eastern Europe to do comedy? Yeah. Just to go there. No, I mean, no, there's a lot of people like just speak English. There's expatriates. No, I've done like, you know, I've done Singapore, Hong Kong, Mumbai, India. It was one of my favorite gigs I've ever done. It was just kind of shady getting in and out because we kind of messed with their immigrants so and i think specifically some senator on the west coast because you got more shit if you were trying to get into the country to work if you were from the west coast so i don't know what happened but all i know is i had to send my passport to there's something in san francisco
Starting point is 00:50:59 and then it came back with this work paper and then when I got to India, I had to go to like, you know, some frigging building. And they wouldn't let the promoter go in with me. So I had to go in there and I had to get a piece of paper to leave that said it was okay I could leave. So I'm in there and like I'm hanging, you know, sitting next to this woman from Afghanistan. And she's trying to get out and I'm trying to get out my shows that night. Cause I literally was flying in doing the gig and leaving the next day and flying back to New York. And I remember just sitting there and like in India, it's hilarious. They have this thing where you ask them a question and they don't shake their head. No. And they don't nod at yes. It's like a bobblehead thing.
Starting point is 00:51:42 They just trying to read that. You know, you're you're like well if i have this piece of paper then now this definitely means i'm gonna get out i think i was taking a red eye that night i'm definitely gonna get out right and the lady was just kind of doing this with their head she's like can you you know i felt like uh it was it was actually a really that a really good experience to have um being in the majority of my whole life to then feel like i was one of those people in the beginning of stripes, you know, son of bitch shit, son of bitch shit. Like I was the guy not speaking English. I mean, not speaking, I'm only speaking English, not understanding their language. And yeah. And all of one time I was like, Bill, if ever you're going to keep your temper in check,
Starting point is 00:52:20 this is the place. Even though you're getting a DMV vibe here right now, do not act like how you act at the dmv out here in california just so then we ended up taking the red eye i think that's how i got out because i went there and i handed the piece of paper and the guy's looking at he's doing all stuff i go it's all there right and he's doing the bobblehead thing i was like guy i'm gonna miss the plane i just sort of kind of gorillared my way through it and then we got on there and i felt i was it was that bad aftlac. Was it Argo? Argo, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:45 Just want the plane to take off. Yeah, just want the plane to take off. And then we landed in Dubai and then we switched and then it was fine. Then I felt good. It seems like the Eastern European tour could be the plot for Taken 4. Could be what?
Starting point is 00:53:00 The plot for Taken 4. Oh. The comedian goes to Eastern Europe to do comedy and then something happens and you have to get somebody back. Yeah, yeah. I don't know. He's still your manager. I don't know, man. This could be it. This could be your comedy action. Yeah. I don't think anybody's
Starting point is 00:53:15 buying a bald, red-headed male as an action star. You can carry. You're feisty. You can just go full Boston. I'm the guy in the van working the computer, trying to give him more time. Which is fine with me, dude. It's fine with me. I'm a comedian.
Starting point is 00:53:32 And anytime I get any parts of a movie, it's gravy. Speaking of which, I got a small part in this movie called The Front Runner. Jason Reitman directed it. Hugh Jackman starred in it. He's getting an Oscar buzz. So don't blink or you'll miss me, but I'm actually going to the Toronto Film Festival coming up this weekend to-
Starting point is 00:53:50 What is the Frontrunner about? I like Jason Reitman. It's the Gary Hart story. And it's so fascinating because I'm old enough to remember it. For those youngsters listening to this, it was 1988. And I didn't realize this,
Starting point is 00:54:03 but up until then, they never delved into your personal life. Oh, yeah. They could 100% know that you were banging chicks on the side with your wife and everything, but they would keep it. So how are you going to get physically responsible,
Starting point is 00:54:16 get the economy? They just stay in there. And this was the first guy that they went tabloid. They had newspapers were all like, we can't do that. Then we'd be at the level of these guys, you know, like the inquirer and stuff.
Starting point is 00:54:32 And that's when the wheels came off. They went ahead and did it. And I remembered it like a month or a six week scandal, but it's literally, it was a week. It came out Monday and the next Monday, he was out of the race. And then Dukakis became the guy. then that's why you know you have eight years of republican you know america and then it's gonna be like no they're the problem yeah now eight years of a democrat now the democrats are the problem so he was all set he was gonna be the guy he was the
Starting point is 00:54:59 front runner and um you know good looking guy was younger than george herbert walker which all plays in an election which it shouldn't but so it looked like he was going to win it so then he got kicked out and then dukakis went in then it became a closer race and then dukakis i guess stuck his head out of that tank and evidently that that was the end of it um but then what's amazing is in 92 bill clinton comes along who not only has that scandal he has like three four of them and he's just like yeah i mean people just like yeah whatever you want to hear a song on the saxophone and then he just and i always wondered what gary hart thought like really but it just seemed like the way the script was that gary was too
Starting point is 00:55:41 it's kind of ironic too much of a family man to put his kid and everything like that through it. So he was just like, all right, I did it. We're done. We're shutting it down. I remember there's that one photo, right? Him and Donna Rice. Wasn't it Donna Rice?
Starting point is 00:55:54 Yeah, on that. They were on like a boat. Monkey business was what it was called. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He never recovered from that one. Yeah. Dukakis was a tough loss for Massachusetts. He was not a very Massachusetts-y
Starting point is 00:56:07 type guy. He was a good guy though. He was a good guy, but he didn't have that real ethnic. So I thought he was a good Massachusetts guy. Remember the John Lovitz SNL impression of him? I just remember the big sideburns in the hair swooped across his forehead. I vaguely remember that. I can't believe I'm losing to this guy. Like Dana Carver's doing the George Bush for like five minutes. I can't believe I'm losing this guy. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, Dukakis, hard to believe he was one vote away.
Starting point is 00:56:34 Going back, he's like in the top five hard to believe. You almost were the president. Oh, yeah. Shot the three at the buzzer and went in and out. Yeah. I think he was more down like 18 in the fourth quarter. Yeah, that was, yeah. Who knows?
Starting point is 00:56:47 Who knows what would have happened? I don't know. That's a good fork in the road though, the Gary Hart thing. Because you're right, it starts the whole tabloid thing and then on top of that, changes the course of who became the president.
Starting point is 00:56:58 Yeah, now they try and find stuff even if you didn't do anything. Like I feel like George Herbert Walker was the last guy who was actually able to be president without being attacked by the other party to a ridiculous level i mean they've always you know yeah gone at each other but there was always a level of respect but like clinton was the whole lewinsky thing you lied under oath let's vote to have him impeached you know and then uh what's his face george w was you
Starting point is 00:57:26 know you stole the election all that crap you did down in florida obama you're not from here and now trump yeah you're in bed with the russians and um that none of those people were removed from office and i just i don't just don't know if that helps us to be constantly to be like you, you know, it's like a fan base. At some point, you know, you can criticize, but at some point you got to support the team or the home field advantage is kind of gone, isn't it? To bring it back to sports. How much has it seeped into your act the last two years?
Starting point is 00:57:56 What? The politics stuff. Ah, nothing. Because I noticed- There's a million people doing Trump jokes and it's all like sort of the same. And I thought Howard Stern had the best angle on it, which he was just basically saying that this guy has a hot wife.
Starting point is 00:58:12 He has all this money. Nobody's really like fucking with him and his age. How old is he? 77, 78? He's mid seventies. Yeah. He's like, you got like six good summers left. Why would you want this job?
Starting point is 00:58:23 Every fucking asshole is going to blame you for everything. He just kept coming back to that. You got six good summers left. Why would you want this job? Every fucking asshole's going to blame you for everything. He just kept coming back to that. You got six good summers left. Yeah. Like I was laughing so hard, I almost had to pull over. But sometimes when somebody does something like that, you're just like, I'm not going to do it better than that. So I can go splash around in that water.
Starting point is 00:58:38 But this guy just, you know, he took all the water out of the pool on that one, I felt so. Yeah, I noticed with your podcast, The Monday Morning, that you always have three topics that you tweet out that the pod's about. And it's always like football, Vaseline, and whiskeys. Yeah. These three things that have nothing in common. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:58 You just kind of turn the mic on and go, right? You must have a general idea. I have like a little set list like i would on stage i'll just be like you know pat's texans you know uh uh chick at the yogurt store if i was a story or something like that yeah but once i start talking i don't look at the list again unless it starts slowing down so a lot of times i i don't get to what's on the list or sometimes i feel like i've done everything on the list and I've only done 12 minutes. So it's very much like doing standup. Like when, if you're in the zone, you feel like you did half your act and you're already did an hour and then nights where
Starting point is 00:59:34 you're just not on, you're not vibing with the crowd. It's like, you feel like you've done your whole act and you're only been up there for 15 minutes and you're like, now what the fuck am I going to do? um podcast is the same way just turn it on and go i can't do that i'm always jealous of the people like i hear colin coward on fox he'll start you know he'll start his show and we'll just talk for 20 minutes with some angle or like steven a smith can do it the guys on first take they just swap these five minute monologues i'm always like i'm always impressed by it like yeah i don't know if like steven a he goes from he does first take for two hours and then does
Starting point is 01:00:10 a radio show and it's just he's doing sports monologues for four hours i don't feel like i could have that much to say about sports uh here's the thing about carmelo anthony you know he's just he's riled up all the time you're doing two shows like how do you have time to watch the sport that's certain guys like yeah no that's guys like know what's going on maybe during the commercials he's just furiously going through twitter to see i think now just some of those guys they just they're born with that gift and like he's probably you know he probably one of those guys gets out of bed running like some people they just they just can go like that uh I love Stephen A. Smith. He's funny as hell.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Have you gone on those shows? Do you do that stuff? No, I never did Stephen A., but there's something about Stephen A. Smith, like when he's making a point, when he puts his eyebrows down, there's just something about it. It reminds me of this kid I grew up with at the bus stop,
Starting point is 01:00:57 so it always just makes me laugh. There's something that's weird. There's very something kid-like about him when he's making his points. I'm not shitting on him or anything but it's like funny i had a comedian i worked with was like that um it was funny it was this dude from brooklyn and he was like you know not someone you would mess with but like when he wouldn't get his way he would like become like this kid it was really funny um do you feel like as any comedy
Starting point is 01:01:22 movie or tv show completely captured what the world is like? Of? Just the standup day to day. Like, do you think pieces of it have captured it? I would say Pete Holmes show. Yeah. A lot of that. It seems like the closest, right?
Starting point is 01:01:35 A lot of that. I was actually going to call him the other day because I was talking to a comedian and I was like, you know, that'd be a good thing for Pete's show that they never really captured. Like they never captured, I haven't seen anybody, is the patheticness of after you killed and you're single and then standing outside as the crowd goes by trying to get laid. And how you have to, you have to like, it's not like musicians or really anybody. If you just went up there and spoke or performed, like there's a level of respect, but there's something about comedy. Like they want you to keep doing the joke. So when you're not funny every eight, seven, oh, you're kind of quiet. They get all weirded out.
Starting point is 01:02:16 Like, well, who is that guy? It's like, that guy would be ridiculous to hang out with walking down the street. You'd get sick of me by the end of the block. But they don't know. I bet magicians have the same thing. I bet when they try to get laid after their deal, they still have to do card tricks like, where's your bra?
Starting point is 01:02:30 Ah, here it is. Oh, you. They probably can't even do all those tricks anymore because it wouldn't be consensual on some level. They'd get Me Too'd. The Eagles documentary, there's this whole section about how they would hand out these special armbands for the groupies oh yeah oh yeah and they would call it the it was basically the third
Starting point is 01:02:52 encore they called it spread eagle and they would just go and get like the 50 best looking girls and they would go back to some guessing comedy is not like and then ones who were on the bubble had to work their way through the roadies and stuff. They did the combine. Oh God, it was just, yeah. Yeah, it's like that fifth round draft pick who always has a chip on his shoulder after that. Like they got something to prove. Like the Pats middle linebacker right now, Bentley.
Starting point is 01:03:14 He runs a four 740, drops. He's got to prove himself every practice. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, it's just a different time. What do you feel like out of all the things came, like should have been better and they just couldn't put the pieces together? What do you mean, as far as what?
Starting point is 01:03:34 Like movies, TV, like remember Punchline with Tom Hanks? Yeah, I thought by the time when that came out, I liked it. Yeah? I liked it, but I also wasn't doing stand-up yet. So anytime they make a movie about what you do, there's no way, you know, cause just the amount of time they have to show it. And then like the whole thing
Starting point is 01:03:52 where you got to keep them chasing the carrot and everything that it's never going to be the same thing. So you kind of have to let go of that. Oh, you'll think every movie about what you do sucks. But I liked Adam Sandler's was it Funny People? I was going to mention that the first my favorite one was
Starting point is 01:04:08 when he was the part of that movie was when he was laying in bed and going just talk to me until I fall asleep yeah yeah and there's like
Starting point is 01:04:13 it was weird because he was experiencing the loneliness of the road when he was at home so I found that like a nice twist but like you know
Starting point is 01:04:21 half the time I would be drinking on the road and just staying out. It was because you just wanted to go back to that empty hotel room and just face plant and fall asleep immediately rather than sitting there in the quiet of it. That when I was younger. Now, like going back stone sober and getting in bed and just putting on and watching a movie is like the greatest thing ever. HBO 2.
Starting point is 01:04:44 Oh, it's just the greatest thing ever. Like I just, the second I, I've always feel like I'm missing something until the elevator starts going up. And then the excitement of actually getting eight hours sleep and not dreading the next morning, going to the airport, like half in the bag, trying to get through security and being all irritable. You know, I thought the first like hour 10 of funny people it's on cable a lot. It's really good. And there's a lot of people in it and it taps into that whole world, I thought. Like the up and comers trying to write people jokes. And then the guy who's kind of past his prime, but kind of wants to make one more run.
Starting point is 01:05:20 I thought it had some good stuff. Since the last time I saw you, the Eagles beat the Pats in the Super Bowl. Yes, they did. Their fans have been loud ever since. So what? They should be. They talked a lot of shit. They should be.
Starting point is 01:05:36 So you support that? Absolutely. I mean, that's not something I do, but like- I can't remember. Do you think the Pats fans did that in 01? We probably did, right? Well, look look you and i didn't didn't do it but like if you might have if okay well then there you go i mean i don't know that's what's gonna happen i'm so happy we won something after 15 years of just sadness uh yeah and i would have thought the red sox would win a world series before the
Starting point is 01:06:00 patriots in that high school football stadium would ever win anything. So I was amazed by that. But no, I would like at some point when the pain of the loss, you know, in like five years stops hurting, I would like to go back and watch it because it's such a bizarre game where the Eagles defense shut down the Vikings and we were, I thought our defense was okay throughout the playoffs. AFC has always just been weak like the last, I don't know how many years. And to just see, I mean, that was literally like a high school game when it was like two or three punts.
Starting point is 01:06:29 And I'll tell you a record that will never be broken unless Tom Brady goes back again, is you're never going to see a quarterback throw for over 500 yards and lose a Superbowl. And that's the one when, like, that's the one thing I do give Eagle fans shit with. Like Nick Foles owned you guys. Like, dude, he had a pedestrian thing I do give Eagle fans shit. Like, Nick Foles owned you guys.
Starting point is 01:06:45 Like, dude, he had a pedestrian 300-yard, 300-plus-yard game. Yeah. Brady threw for 500 yards and lost. And had Cooks was out for the last three quarters, basically. Yeah, that game, I haven't watched it either. Yeah, no Edelman, none of that. And any time Belichick decides to go, you know,
Starting point is 01:07:02 great Santini and sit a player, it just never, you know, when he did that with Welker, remember when Welker made all those feet jokes about Rex Ryan? Yeah. Then like we ended up losing to the Jets at home. It just was a bad omen. And watching Malcolm Butler literally crying like a loved one had died. I was like from the, I just didn't feel right from the second. And I remember the first pass I saw a fulls throw.
Starting point is 01:07:24 It reminded me of Jake Delone, where it was another guy that nobody gave any chance. feel right from from the second and i remember the first pass i saw uh foals throw it reminded me of jake delone where it was another guy that nobody gave any chance like everybody forgets his performance lost to jake delone oh dude he was a beast in that game and i nick foals was great and i was really i wish that i could have watched the eagles win a super bowl not beating my team because i really would have enjoyed it because uh you know believe it or not i'm'm 50. So I know what it's like to wait. You know, anybody under the age of like, I don't know, 28 now as a Boston fan has no idea what that feels like.
Starting point is 01:07:52 But like, so I would have been more enjoyable because I love seeing, I love seeing the Cubs win, you know, love seeing the Capitals win this year. There's not a lot left. There's not a lot of those. I can't believe that team actually won the title teams. The list is, we've really banged some out the last 15 years.
Starting point is 01:08:11 The Capitals, I never thought the Capitals would beat the Penguins, much less win the Stanley Cup. Yeah. And it was also, it was a great thing to see how much Ovechkin cared because there was a stereotype for a while with Russian players that the Stanley Cup didn't mean shit to them it's like whatever the Stanley Cup is in Russia if you went over there you didn't grow up seeing it so just inherently it didn't mean as much and then the stereotype was that they come over here they get the big contract and they don't fucking try and guys like uh like Malkin and Ovechkin really like I thought um and sometimes got undue criticism because they
Starting point is 01:08:43 were Russian or something if the team wasn't going well. It's like, dude, they're not the fucking GM. You know what I mean? They're not the guy, they're still giving it their all on the ice, but it was sort of an easy scapegoat thing. But I would say maybe the Cleveland Indians, who for some reason, like very under the radar
Starting point is 01:08:57 with like this coming up on 80 years. Is it 80 years? Yeah, 80 years this year. They're under the radar. The Buffalo Bills, obviously. Minnesota Vikings. I think the Buffalo Bills- The Bengals would be shocking. Watching them lose four in a row, coming up on 80 years is it 80 years yeah the buffalo bills obviously minnesota vikings i think the buffalo bills watching them lose four in a row like there's no point of even giving them shit although i think i did this week on the on the podcast i was going is this the year where you guys regain your afc championship winning form to go to a super bowl i stopped
Starting point is 01:09:21 short of saying losing it but uh yeah i would would say that. The Indians, the Browns. There's some out there. The Sacramento Kings would be ludicrous, but I never thought the Cubs would have it. They should have won it that one year where they didn't have a frigging mobbed up ref. There's another Lakers banner hanging up there. For the Pats though, that was the Boston team
Starting point is 01:09:40 that was just the black sheep that nobody ever imagined would actually win the Super Bowl. It seemed inconceivable. No. And now, now I think the jets of snow plow and oh my God. Well, as you said, the stadium was kind of the secret sauce of how bad the Pats were. That was the worst stadium. It was just an armpit. Everyone has their five stories from some terrible experience they had there. It was just awful. It was like a parking garage that they opened up like a fucking, I don't know. I'm trying to think of the vegetable, like an avocado or something.
Starting point is 01:10:12 They just split the thing open. It was an eyesore. They put those aluminum benches. Yeah. You would say it would be freezing. Your ass would absolutely freeze. Stand up, you lose your seat. In the cold games, you lost your seat because everybody's thick coats back then. They didn't have the North Face technology. So it was all about skinning all these
Starting point is 01:10:34 geese and shit. Not to mention probably one of the consistently drunkest crowds ever. Oh yeah. And I was a part of it. I remember the first time I went to a game, I went to see the Patriots with the New York Jets right before they became the sack exchange. So it was Richard Todd, Freeman McNeil, Marty Lyons, Abdul Salam, Joe Klecko, and Mark Gastineau was the guys I remember, and Wesley Walker, that version. And I remember it was cold like that wet windy rain and i was freezing my ass off and the patriots sucked that year i remember all these drunks standing patriots fucking shock screaming and i remember i couldn't believe it that someone would say something that about the home team yeah because i was so innocent going there this is before the internet and shit you didn't know what was going on in the world. And just seeing how drunk they were.
Starting point is 01:11:27 And my dad just like was beside him. He was a Midwest guy just beside of himself looking at the fucking behavior and never took me to another game. And then like within, God, three years of that, I went from like 12, maybe four years of that, 12 to 16, 17 years old. And all of a sudden-
Starting point is 01:11:45 You were that guy? Yeah. Yeah. No, I wasn't that guy till I was 21. Okay. 20. What year? 89, I had season tickets to him.
Starting point is 01:11:53 Oh, 89. We were one in, weren't we one in 15 that year? I think we were five and 11. Oh, so 90 was one in 15. Yeah, it was- The Rod Rust year. Yeah, Rod Rust. One in 15 was the year that got me into sports gambling.
Starting point is 01:12:07 Oh, really? Yeah, because I was like i we're off i'd what i need a team to root for and then somebody was like you should gamble you know you could gamble on the teams oh that's cool i remember i bet against the patriots one time that year trying to trying to get my money back they played buffalo at home and i believe that was the year that was i think that was the game they actually showed up and won. They came through. And so I couldn't even enjoy it. And I lost the money. I remember we played the Dolphins that year.
Starting point is 01:12:32 And we went three and out. My buddy had buried the Patriots against Dan Marino and the Dolphins. I don't know. It was early in the year. Because the year before, we made the playoffs, I believe, in 88. So we go three and out. We go to do a fake punt it gets blocked they take it in for a touchdown it's seven or nothing right so my buddy's got he's got all his money i said come on man let's fucking go so they kick off to us we go three and out again we go to punt the punter bobbles the
Starting point is 01:13:00 snap now he's running with the fucking ball like Like, Gary, you're premming, however you say his name. I just remember Buddy's voice, like, just highest pitch. I remember he's like, what did they do? And he went to throw it. It got intercepted. They caught the ball. And then, like, two plays later,
Starting point is 01:13:16 it was like 14 to nothing before your beer was even, like, you weren't even halfway done with your beer. And I remember we almost got into a fight that game. I'll spare the details, but. Almost got into a fight was pretty synonymous with the late eighties. Well, he just was pissed and he just started spitting. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:34 Over the crowd. Oh no. Under, oh yeah. And these guys, this kid just, he just hucked a cord. He just hucked another cord. We were just trying to like, you know, it's really hard to tell the story, not to say the guy's name
Starting point is 01:13:46 because he had such a great nickname. We were trying to calm him down. It was almost like, and it was 14 to nothing. So nobody gave a shit. So it was almost Patriot on Patriot battles and shit like that. But I remember I went to a game in the mid nineties. We were playing Denver.
Starting point is 01:14:01 And I think Elway just, you know, I don't remember what his lifetime record. We never beat Denver. We never beat Elway just, you know, I don't remember what his lifetime record. We never beat Denver. We never beat Elway. From Craig Morton right through John Elway. And like, and every time we fucking play him,
Starting point is 01:14:11 it's always, it's always, always in mile high. It's like, do we ever get a home? I would love to see, maybe it's just because we always lose so it just feels like that.
Starting point is 01:14:19 But like, every fucking time we play that team. And we had the Rulon Jones safety playoff game. Is there any way to look up a stat? Like, like, the all time, yeah. How many games have been home versus away from like 1978 on? Every time. It was always snowing. They always gave us a little bit of a chance. We would just get the shit kicked out of us. It finally started to flip with the Brady Belichick era. But we went
Starting point is 01:14:41 to this game. It was when Elway was there. And they killed us. But more importantly, the 17-year-old kid behind us, who was obviously drinking before the game, had one of those exorcist throw-ups. Oh, God. Just five pounds of it. But it was behind us. But as the game went along, it started creeping down toward our...
Starting point is 01:15:01 So then by second quarter, our feet are just in it for the, and the pats are down like, you know, 28 to three or whatever. And we're going to buy bottled water to spray out the puke. Like to me, that was that stadium. Just like standing in puke, sitting in puke. I remember a preseason game. Two of my buddies went down to get a beer and they were gone for like a half hour.
Starting point is 01:15:20 We're like, where are they? And they come back. One of them's shirt is ripped, like open to his shoulder. He's got like a bloody lip. It somehow got into a fight and almost got kicked out. But the vendor stuck up for him and said that, no, the other guy started it and they let them stay bloody. Like that would never happen. No, that would be like a congressional hearing. Yeah. I remember going when they opened Gillette Stadium, which I don't really like that much. The Lighthouse is what gets me. It looks cool on TV.
Starting point is 01:15:47 It's a little theme park-ish. Yeah, and TV looks cool in person. It feels theme park-y. But the first game, they didn't, for some reason they decided to make an equal amount of men's and women's bathrooms. And what's the demo of a Pats game? Like 95 to five, male, female?
Starting point is 01:16:05 96 to four, I don't know. And you said all these dudes waiting in these men's rooms, but all the women's rooms, there's nobody there. It's usually the opposite. The women's room is usually the longer line. Well, guess what happened? You can take a guess. You're from Massachusetts.
Starting point is 01:16:18 How do you think it played out? How it usually plays out. Do you think the guys started using the women's? Yeah. So it was just complete chaos couldn't do that now. He did that now. It would be trouble. People would cell phone it.
Starting point is 01:16:29 You'd be called a rapist and you'd ruin your career. Yeah. Tom Brady? You'll never drive a garbage truck again. Tom Brady? Yep. You feel like he's getting weird a little bit? He's getting a little strange in his 40s?
Starting point is 01:16:42 There's been some signs. I don't know. Weird, beloved some signs. I don't know. Weird, belovedly weird. I don't know. Yeah. Everybody in the media is just going after the guy. I love Tom. It's his career.
Starting point is 01:16:52 Did you watch Tom versus time? He can do. No, I don't. I never watch any of that shit. Oh, see, that's because I don't give a. This is why you feel that way. Yeah. Tom versus time is a little strange.
Starting point is 01:17:01 Because I don't need to know what the fuck he's like between the games. All I just need to know is what he does during the game which is he's done better than anybody else if you're gonna fucking you want to hang out with me for 24 hours I'm fucking I guarantee you I'm weirder than that guy is I'm gonna sit here and judge this guy who's like the greatest quarterback of all time
Starting point is 01:17:18 and married a supermodel and went to 8 Super Bowls and won 5 of them I'm gonna sit on my couch being like hey what's up with this guy? He's got a full head of hair. This guy, he's killing me in every category. God bless him. 6'5", too.
Starting point is 01:17:33 6'5". Tall and handsome. Tall and handsome. Yeah, I wish I had him on set. Let's talk about that on the podcast. Drew Brees would be getting a little more love if he was about four inches taller, you know, had more of a square jaw,
Starting point is 01:17:44 and married somebody more well-known. He has like the second most yards of all time. People don't even know that. That's, yeah, indoors a little tainted. This is my Peyton Manning argument too. As I, as I espouse the Tom Brady merits, just those playing in the dome just helps. Brady's had to have all these cold weather games. He's like in December, he's playing, he's either playing in Massachusetts or he's playing in Buffalo. But what happens outdoors? Does a bird come by and just take the ball? It's just harder. Frozen field.
Starting point is 01:18:15 I never got that far in my football career to know if it's easier. To know the weather. But the level of noise indoors too is difficult. Unless it's in your favor. Yeah. All right. Look, if you want to talk about that, then I'd make fun of Seattle who deliberately constructed,
Starting point is 01:18:32 that is the loudest place. Like people talking before the game was deafening. It actually seems like it could damage your hearing. It was bothering my ears. And that wasn't because people, they just talk loud in Seattle. It's like, it goes back to like before the amplification of sound. If you play these old theaters, if you know how to project your voice,
Starting point is 01:18:49 you wouldn't need a microphone. These guys could sing or act to the back of the theater. They knew what they were doing. So they just, that technology has been around. So they just built it that way. All I know, I mean, good for them. Good for them. But all I know is if the Patriots did that,
Starting point is 01:19:04 they would figure out where the sound waves were going and they'd make us tear down a section and we'd have to play at fucking Nickerson Field and lose a couple of first round draft picks if we did that shit. Everybody else is just like, ah, it's a little gamesmanship. I know, the Steelers got involved
Starting point is 01:19:18 in a deflated football preseason thing and it came and went in like five seconds. All right, well, that's one of the, I mean, that Jim Irsay hiring a guy to do an investigation on the team that that he lost to in a playoff game i mean that was like an episode of duke's a hazard that was like especially jim ursae out of all people i know whatever who cares let's take a break talk about a little gambling people always ask me for advice what team to bet on this week, what's going to happen. The truth is, I don't know who's going to win,
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Starting point is 01:20:24 Don't forget to use the promo code Bill Simmons when creating your account to claim the bonus you play you win you get paid are you following the Jets QB like the Jets fans are really into Sam Darnold but he's one of those guys
Starting point is 01:20:37 it's almost like he dropped from one to three because people didn't like his face no that's a big thing it's like Eli if Eli looked better with a helmet on there's just something about him he just looks like he's a big thing there was like eli if eli looked better with a helmet on there's just something about him he just looks like he's squished in there and the guy is he's a killer you don't have to tell a pats fan that that guy's a killer man and he gets better he's like one of those guys like i think he just he's bored in september and october and then all of a
Starting point is 01:21:01 sudden it's like eli you have to win seven of the last nine games and he's like alright and then that's like the dumb look on his face that guy's not dumb dude we're the only fans who are afraid of him anymore Eli he's been getting shit on by the New York media his whole fucking career
Starting point is 01:21:19 that was I don't know I mean at some point you do have to get rid of your coach but getting rid of Tom Coughlin I mean the guy owned the Patriots like I don't know
Starting point is 01:21:30 why you would do that but you know people move on so we'll see we'll see how this they got that kid from Penn State
Starting point is 01:21:37 at running back whatever his name is Barkley oh my god yeah he went I had a fantasy draft he went for like 52 bucks.
Starting point is 01:21:45 People were like already all in on him. He hasn't played yet. That's the best team for his style to go to. Like just an old school, like I actually, even though I'm a Patriots fan,
Starting point is 01:21:53 I like the Giants because I've always liked defensive minded teams. And it's funny how like certain teams just know how to draft guys. Like for whatever reason, the Giants,
Starting point is 01:22:03 my whole life, and actually going before with Sam Huff and all those guys, they just always knew how to, they just see a linebacker like nobody else. Pittsburgh's another good team like that.
Starting point is 01:22:12 And then you got other teams that just can't pick a winner. Like, like the Browns and the Bears. Like they just, like they just can't get a quarterback. Like the amount of times
Starting point is 01:22:23 where it's just like, all right, buddy, there's been one pick or two picks. You have the rest of the draft. Pick the guy that's going to be the guy. And they just, especially the Bears. The Bears, my whole life, have never had a quarterback. They had, what's his face? Dave Cutler.
Starting point is 01:22:39 They had a brief Cutler apex. Cutler's sort of, he's like the modern day, like Jeff George. Oh, yeah. He has all this ability and he just ends up pissing everybody off everywhere he goes. He's fun as a fan to watch the way he talks to the media and how much he doesn't give a fuck. I gotta say, I miss him. Like who, we need a new, I love Jeff George and I love Jay Cutler.
Starting point is 01:23:01 I like the anti-hero QB. We need a new one. I'm hoping one of these new guys maybe will be the anti-hero. Who's that guy that's always on the Browns that went on The Herd and stuck up for himself, wore the whole shirt, undraftable?
Starting point is 01:23:15 Did you see that clip? Oh, was that Baker Mayfield? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was fun. I like he's got a swagger to him. Oh, yeah. And he's going into play for the Browns. The Browns, by the way,
Starting point is 01:23:24 have to go back to their old uniforms. Yeah, I agree. It's so funny.agger to him. Oh, yeah. And he's going into play for the Browns. The Browns, by the way, have to go back to their old uniforms. Yeah, I agree. It's so funny. They barely tweaked them, but they completely fucked them up. Just go back. They were such like- They should go back to the Jim Brown uniforms. Yes.
Starting point is 01:23:34 Like from the 60s. That old all brown with the white numbers and the white pants with the stripe is one of the cleanest uniforms. And it's very hard to make Brown look cool. And they did it. I think it was the orange helmet that offset it. How long have I been in Hollywood? I'm really getting all fashionista over here.
Starting point is 01:23:49 I thought Baker was going to be a bust. And I've already recanted and done a 180 on my own opinion. Because I was impressed by him. I thought in Hard Knocks, I hate to judge people just from Hard Knocks. I was really impressed by A, how he handled himself, his personality, his sense of humor. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:07 He just seemed like a leader. And he didn't seem overwhelmed at all. But so many of those guys become bosses. It's the fucking team you go to, where it's just like, you know, if- Yeah, the team infects you. Yeah, and it's just like, if they don't have an offensive line and you spend like,
Starting point is 01:24:22 you know, Troy Aikman was very close to being out of the league in five years if jimmy johnson doesn't come in and turn around the amount of hits that that guy took in the beginning yeah and then jimmy made that unbelievably shrewd trade and uh was able to convert all of those i mean that was the dumbest thing i used to think that they just gave them all these players and and it wasn't they gave them they gave them like i forget who they gave him but they had like five of these other players and anyone that he cut he got like the vikings top pick yeah and after the thing jimmy was like you
Starting point is 01:24:55 know i'm gonna cut all these players and they're like this guy you motherfucker don't do that it's just like well of course i'm gonna go yeah why why would you do that and but then he also had to pick the right guys and he did so um are you ready for a post tom brady world as a patriots fan yeah i was after atlanta it's gonna be uh like i don't want him to play too long where he really gets hurt like i but it's up to him when he wants to quit so i'm not going to criticize the guy if he keeps playing i just want him to go out on a high note. I mean, as much as I'm worried about the guy, because I can only superimpose how I felt at his age. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:35 So this is me. But I mean, his last game, he threw for over 500 yards in the Super Bowl. He didn't fucking win. But I mean, anybody else is coming back. That's like a career year. So, yeah,
Starting point is 01:25:48 it feels like it's going to have to end badly. There's no other way. Well, I just don't know what year it'll be. It could be in 2025. Like who, who the hell knows? I've never seen a lot of people
Starting point is 01:25:58 in this business. The thing that, that got him there is also the thing that can screw you over if you're not cognizant of it, which I think he is. Yeah, I'm not sure. I think he's going as long as he feels like he can still be good. And it does seem like he's- Which is okay because I mean- Yeah. It
Starting point is 01:26:18 seems like he's really driven to prove that he can completely alter the limits of what people thought a guy in the 40s could do. How old is he? He's 41. No, he's 41. Now we're entering territory we haven't seen. We've seen 39. We've seen 40. Okay, so you saw a 41-year-old guy throw for over 500 yards in a Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:26:35 Got his team in the Super Bowl, threw for over 500 yards. I mean, that's insane. But I think he wants to go to like 45. I think he wants this to be the all-time mic drop where people are like, holy shit, what happened? I think LeBron's wired the same way, to be honest. I think LeBron wants to play until like his kid's in the NBA. Yeah, but I mean, that's why they're great.
Starting point is 01:26:56 But there's nothing worse though than watching a guy try to do that and then see a bunch of out of shape people who were never even picked in gym class start picking him apart. And the glee and the joy that they have doing it the guys because their own stream never got off the fucking ground yeah like the uh the cuntiness of sports writers is just it's just it's unparalleled other than the average jerk off on Twitter. You know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, we grew up with some boxers that stayed on too long. It seems like a recurring thing in boxing.
Starting point is 01:27:34 They always have to have that, those two knockouts that shouldn't happen. Because it's inherently a corrupt sport and then they don't have any money. Yeah, they have to keep going, keep going, keep going. Yeah. There's been a few people like that walk away, you know, that have been smart, like in football. Elway was the best one.
Starting point is 01:27:53 Two titles leaves. Leaves. But I'm just saying as far as before you have like any sort of like damage, like, you know, Barry Sanders playing 10 seasons and gone. Like, you know, what that's going to do for the future of his health considering what seems what happens to a lot of these football players.
Starting point is 01:28:08 Like Lin Swan got out after 10 years. He played 10 seasons, got four rings and had the- Took a couple of huge hits though. Remember that Super Bowl where it seemed like,
Starting point is 01:28:18 was he the one? Oh no, that was, he took one, but I was thinking Sammy White. Sammy White took that one hit when it seemed like he died in the game. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:24 If you watch those old Raider highlights, it was, they just were punching guys in the head. Yeah. Like this one guy, he literally had like a cast and you'd catch the, he would let you catch the ball
Starting point is 01:28:34 and then he would, he would to the side of the head and you'd get knocked out and they act like that was a good hit. It's like, dude, you just sucker punched that guy and that was completely legal.
Starting point is 01:28:43 Yeah. I remember a touchdown pass terry bradshaw through and he got knocked unconscious against the cowboys he got hit like i think two guys hit him at once yeah he was completely unconscious and he of course because he's terry threw a strike lynn swan caught it for a touchdown and then terry played the rest of the game i believe didn't remember most of it i mean that, they don't let guys do that anymore. So that is a good thing. They don't let them do anything close to that anymore.
Starting point is 01:29:12 Yeah. Now they have the spotters. Not because they care. Not because they care. It's all about money. Well, they're afraid they're going to get sued again. I was saying on my podcast that what they should do is just like make them all sign a waiver.
Starting point is 01:29:24 Kind of like, you know, if the federal government imprisons you for 30 years and they find out you're innocent, and they go, okay, we'll let you out, but you have to sign this thing where you can't sue us. Yeah. Whatever lawyer drew that up, the NFL should hire that person. And then when you come into the NFL- You just sign it. You just sign it. Here we go. This is what this is. I had my fantasy football draft last night and we have 11 teams, but only 10 can be in the draft and the champ gets to vote somebody out. So the guy who was
Starting point is 01:29:51 the champ, Dave Damoshek, he drew up this legal document that I won't vote you out, but you can't vote me out for five years. And we all had to sign it to avoid getting voted out. And then he ended up voting out this one person. But I thought like what you're saying about the NFL. Sounds like an episode of Survivor. It really was. That's what this is. It's Survivor.
Starting point is 01:30:12 And it's caused a lot of tension and angst in our group. I hate it. I'm afraid to. Yeah, dude, you guys, you fucked up with that one. This is my friend, Cousin Sal. He's obsessed with like the vote out and you guys you guys just you yeah you just signed away with you know that's like woodrow wilson when he realized that federal reserve was not a good deal yeah now we're just stuck with it for
Starting point is 01:30:37 the rest of eternity so you got to have your letter of regret are you what's your big college football trip this year i'm going to to Michigan, Wisconsin in the big house. And have you, have you done that one before? Yeah. I saw Michigan, Ohio state back 1999. That's when like, it was a David Boston was playing. And I forget who it was. Oh Jesus.
Starting point is 01:30:57 Yeah. A long time ago. Remember how big that, that guy got so jacked on the Cardinals, David Boston. He was like the first football receiver. I remember it was like, wow, that guy's too big. He was like the first football receiver I remember. I was like, wow, that guy's too big. He's not, he's gonna get hurt. Yeah, that was a great era in the Big Ten.
Starting point is 01:31:12 That was before the SEC and their whole run. It's funny that you like college football when like Massachusetts, it's so not a thing. I moved out here. And that's what got you. And the games came on so early and comedy shows got over so early. Like, you know. You used to work the weekends in New York. I mean, you didn't get home till like three in the morning and you didn't fall asleep till 4, 4.30. So I missed a lot of sports when I was there. And then I came out here and you weren't getting
Starting point is 01:31:40 eight spots a night in a weekend the way you could run around the city back in the day, at least in New York. So gave me this free time and I just was like, all right, well, I'm not jumping on the Alabama bandwagon. So I liked Les Meyer with LSU and I became an LSU fan. So like, there's a bunch of teams that I like, historically just good programs and stuff. And there's a lot of teams within the sec that
Starting point is 01:32:06 were good when i was so you're dating a lot of teams you're not married to any of them i'm married to lsu but like tell us you but you have some mistresses uh no i'm just like i'll be if tennessee gets good again i'll be happy for them uh so you had belichick and less miles in your life at the same time yeah yeah i did that's did. That's really two extremes. He was fun, man. He was a fun guy where he would just, he would go for it. He had trick plays. He was eating the grass and he just was great.
Starting point is 01:32:33 The big thing is we never had a quarterback, but this year, this new kid, forget his name. I just saw him. They pretty much handled University of Miami the other night until like with like eight minutes left, all of a sudden Miami started scoring. Then they were like two touchdowns, two point conversions, two two-point conversions from tying it that made me nervous.
Starting point is 01:32:53 And I was like, there's no way they're going to do this. It's like, wait, I saw the Patriots do that like four times to the Falcons. So it is doable. But yeah, I went to a game there in Baton Rouge when they played Alabama was incredible and they had the game one and they fucking alligator armed it. They started playing Marty ball. Oh Jesus.
Starting point is 01:33:11 Third quarter. Poor Marty. Yeah. Um, give me your top four stadiums. Give me the Mount Rushmore right now. Okay. Well, I am, I only need like eight more in the professional, all four sports, eight more home games that I have to go to. Oh, so you want in college.
Starting point is 01:33:27 Wait, what are you talking about? You've banged out that many stadiums, you only have eight left? Yeah, I've been to a home game of every football, baseball, every hockey, but like three in every basketball, except like, I guess five, maybe. Football, you're talking college and pro? No, no, no. Just pro? Just pro, but college, I'm on my way. Give me you're talking college and pro? No, no, no. Just pro. Just pro. But college, I'm on my way.
Starting point is 01:33:47 Give me the college. That I've been to? The best three you've been to so far. That's tough. Dude, I can't do it. Because college- Of course you can do it. No, I'll tell you why.
Starting point is 01:33:58 Because in the NFL, they're all brand new stadiums. The NBA, baseball. So the memories aren't there. Yeah. Like when you're going into these old stadiums and you know Earl Campbell played here and all these amazing players. So dude, I've been to the Rose Bowl,
Starting point is 01:34:16 the LA Coliseum. The Rose Bowl is really cool. I actually wasn't prepared for what that was like. I go to that every, I go to the Rose Bowl game. I've gone to the last 10 in a row. Every New Year's Day, I go to that every, I go to the Rose Bowl game. I've gone to the last 10 in a row. Every New Year's Day, I go to that LA Coliseum
Starting point is 01:34:28 where the first two Super Bowls were played. Every time I go there, I pictured that video of Vince Lombardi and all those empty seats behind him when I go there. Max McGee throwing up in the sideline. The big house, Notre Dame. I remember Notre Dame was like,
Starting point is 01:34:45 welcome to big time college football. This guy over the thing, the Swamp last year. I went there. Not only did I see LSU versus the Florida Gators, it was right after Tom Petty, unfortunately, died and he was from Gainesville. Yeah. And they played, I won't back down
Starting point is 01:35:04 and the whole crowd sang it. You'll see it on YouTube. Oh, that's awesome. It gave me chills. LSU was incredible. I went to the Red River Rivalry game in the Cotton Bowl, Texas versus Oklahoma. What about Ole Miss? That's on my bucket list.
Starting point is 01:35:21 I'm going to go to that one. I've heard good things about that one. They've all been great. They just did, and then OSU, I went to a game there. They're playing Bowling Green, so that kind of sucked,
Starting point is 01:35:31 but- I was in Auburn two years ago. It was cool. And then they won, and it was like, hey, we're going to go toilet paper some trees. Trees, like what? Yeah, let's go do it.
Starting point is 01:35:39 You guys are all doing that? What does that mean? Why are you doing that? I went to Indiana University game when Bobby Knight was still there when they played Michigan State. Wow wow i have never seen behavior and he wasn't even getting technicals i have never seen a coach like dude he was so far out onto the court i forget they gave up an easy bucket yeah and the point guards bringing up the court and dude he
Starting point is 01:36:01 was yelling and it was i thought his head was gonna snap off the way he was like just throwing his head at his a guy was going up the court and um that was when i almost didn't get into i bought a student ticket and i was like 32 and they're looking at me i just i think i just said come on man they got to get in there but this is a bucket list i gotta go that's the best nba arena conseco field in in Indiana. Because they built it just for basketball. Because most of these basketball arenas are built for hockey, so they have to be wider, so the seats aren't as close. Oh, is that right? Yeah. So the legend goes to the games, he sits in the corner. Because if you do an NBA arena the right way or a basketball arena, the corner should actually be an awesome seat because it should be close. Yeah. But with the hockey, they have to make it super wide for all the guys to walk in and
Starting point is 01:36:47 out. So those corners are like too far away. So anyway, that was a good one. What's the best hockey arena? Montreal? Well, they have the new one. I went to the old forum and that was- The old forum.
Starting point is 01:36:58 That was cool. I mean, that was like the place of our nightmares as children. But still, you had to respect it. Maple Leaf Gardens, I took a tour of that before they tore it down that was incredible uh um i would say the boston garden the new one no the old one oh yeah yeah i mean that that place seeing celtic games there and uh bruins games i mean that was literally you know the deal you felt like you're gonna fall down onto the ice they just you know the pillars deal. You felt like you were going to fall down onto the ice. They just, you know- The pillars, the cigarette smoke and the alcohol.
Starting point is 01:37:27 Those little shit TVs. Remember if you got like the obstructed view? It was such a dub. That little kitchen TV. It was like a six inch screen. You're supposed to, it was like that black line was kept jumping, going up. You're supposed to watch it on that.
Starting point is 01:37:39 And- People think those stories are exaggerated. We- No, not at all. We used to sit in the tunnel because my dad had tickets and you could hear the rats running around underneath us sometimes because you remember the tunnel like they have the little screens we could hear like i never heard that i just
Starting point is 01:37:53 remember there was a guy one time those are rats how tight it was there was a guy we had upper deck and this guy was across the ice upper deck and for some reason mike milbury wasn't a popular bruin at the time yeah and there were some reasons oh i don't know well i don't i don't know any reason but i just remember this guy stood up and just clear his day the whole arena heard it just stood up he grabbed his dick he goes milbury eat my meat and he got this big laugh and then he just sat down there was all kinds of kids there they all heard. No usher came down to say like, hey, buddy, could you not grab your junk and spew out vulgar stuff across the entire fucking arena?
Starting point is 01:38:31 Like the players on the bench heard it. Like that's how tight it was. How are you feeling about hockey these days? I love it. And the more people criticize it, the more it warms my heart. Who's criticizing it? Well, everybody always is.
Starting point is 01:38:46 You can't see the puck. It doesn't translate to television. Why do they allow them to fight? And all of that shit. And it's just like, dude, it's not for you. Just fucking move on to another sport. All these fucking assholes. They keep, and the NHL listens to them.
Starting point is 01:39:02 They try to cater to them. They try to cater to these people who are going to continue to not watch hockey. And then they just alienate good fans like myself. I just, I pat myself on the back. I will tell you this. After years of picking the wrong cities, they are on a roll right now with Nashville. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:17 And Vegas. And I think Seattle is going to be huge. Seattle is a good idea. Seattle fans are maniacs. They're maniacs. Yeah, Seattle is a good idea. And they're going to be loud as shit. And they know the louder they scream
Starting point is 01:39:25 the better chance they get getting the Sonics back or some sort of NBA franchise I don't know if they own the team name the way the Browns fans did I think that's going to be a huge one
Starting point is 01:39:33 I got to say I was absolutely flabbergasted and stunned by how well the Vegas thing went I thought it was going to go the complete opposite way it made no sense to me I wouldn't have bet against you
Starting point is 01:39:43 it broke pretty much every rule I would have expected for what would make an NHL team work. But then as you watch it happen, and then it makes total sense. It's like, oh, the ticket brokers buy all the tickets. They just hand them out to this group of people. But then you have all these diehard people
Starting point is 01:39:58 who don't live like right in Vegas, but are 20, 30 minutes away. And those are like the perfect blue collar occupants. Yeah. And what about that speech the guy gave? That was like right out of a movie. Oh, everything they've done is great. He goes, you guys are all in this locker room for one reason and one reason only. Whoever you just played for didn't think you were good enough to be protected. Yeah, sports movie.
Starting point is 01:40:20 To be protected. And they all just, just became one. Yeah, that was one of those ones when I was watching, I was just like, I was rooting for the Capitals because one of my buddies, Josh Adam Myers, is a huge, longtime suffering Capitals fan.
Starting point is 01:40:33 So I was rooting for him. But I was just like, you know, if the Capitals don't win, this is just such a great story. To lose to the expansion team. No, no, no, no, no, no. That would have been tough for the Caps.
Starting point is 01:40:44 Yeah. I was rooting for- But oddly enough, like within, totally within their. No, no, no, no, no, no. That would have been tough for the Caps. Yeah. I was referring- But oddly enough, like within, totally within their wheelhouses, like, yeah, that sounds like something we'd do. I was, I have some DC sports fans in my life, but I was the same way with you. I got into the Ovechkin thing.
Starting point is 01:40:58 It reminded me of Nowitzki during that 2011 Dallas year when people had kind of written him off and he was over here and he's the MVP, but he shouldn't have been. That's when they beat Miami, right? And then they had the whole, it wasn't just Miami. Like they upset,
Starting point is 01:41:11 every team they beat in the playoffs was a team people thought they were going to lose to. I always felt bad for Mark Cuban because then the lockout happened. He wasn't allowed to talk to his players. So the second they won, he wasn't allowed to celebrate with them.
Starting point is 01:41:22 It's just like, dude, what the? Right. There's no way he must have been like all right everybody just i think he was partying for like seven weeks in row anyway i think he was fine yeah i think he he wanted that especially after how they lost in 06 when wade and the refs and all that shit so you're fine you're you're you feel hockey's in a good place right now because i agree with you it like- Hockey is a great game. It's always in a good place.
Starting point is 01:41:45 It seems like hockey's driven away all the casual fans and basically like, we're here. This is our sport. Stop telling us what to change. Fuck off. I hope that's what they do. Just be happy being multimillionaires. Stop looking at other sports and being like, why can't we be billionaires? It's just like, it's a fucking disease.
Starting point is 01:42:05 Like how big does your flat screen TV have to be? It does seem like the one professional league that hasn't really exploited this current decade where sports rights have, you know, like the Premier League's gone way up and these freaking MLS teams are all worth- What about the UFC? UFC went global like soccer.
Starting point is 01:42:21 I would say UFC has got to be, as far as globally goes goes that's got to be second behind soccer as far as like like it doesn't make a difference where they go there's fans people are going to watch it um nba's nba is above them but ufc is definitely nba nba is the league pass stuff like in these different countries they've gone into it's been social media like you can always tell by the social media. So the soccer players have the biggest, you know, Instagram footprints,
Starting point is 01:42:51 Twitter footprints, stuff like that. And the basketball is like really gone up. And that's the biggest difference between basketball and baseball right now. Is the baseball guys have no social media footprint at all? I would think that they would be bigger. Yeah. That always, that post you have. Which one? The fish that I would think that they would be bigger. Yeah. That post you have.
Starting point is 01:43:06 Which one? The fish that saved Pittsburgh. The fish that saved Pittsburgh. Yeah. I remember seeing that when I first got cable. 40-year anniversary coming up. Is that Gabe Kaplan in that movie or no? No, that's Gabe Kaplan's behind you to the right.
Starting point is 01:43:16 That's the most politically incorrect sports movie of all time, Fast Break. Oh, I knew he did a basketball one. Yeah. That was the golden era of Fish That Saved Pittsburgh fast break and one on one with Robbie Benson oh yeah
Starting point is 01:43:28 the trifecta oh I love that movie were you in a sports movie was I yeah in a sports movie no nothing
Starting point is 01:43:35 no how did that happen you've had so many like cameos and weird stuff in the movie industry so I just kind of also I look like a fireman.
Starting point is 01:43:45 I look like a cop. You couldn't have been, I don't really look like a flanker. You couldn't have been in one of these Boston movies they've made? Hmm? You couldn't have been in like a cameo? I auditioned for Celtic Pride early in my career.
Starting point is 01:43:56 Ah, there we go. Colin Quinn. That Fever pitch? Written movie. Fever pitch, no. I just wasn't, no, I was never the guy. guy so which sucks when you're young but it's great when you're old so you have a nice sort of gradual ascent yeah and nobody bugs you
Starting point is 01:44:15 and uh yeah it's perfect so then i if my descent is just as gradual it should take me to the end of my life. One more break to talk about Squarespace. Our old friends, turn your dream into reality with Squarespace that make it easier than ever to launch your passion project. Whether you're looking to start a new business, showcase your work, publish content, sell products or whatever you want to do.
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Starting point is 01:45:59 out and do standup, I mean, it's a free country. You don't have to like it. You don't have to go to the shows or anything like that. But I just wish we could get out of this. I wish we could get back to a, I don't know if that period ever existed, but I wish we could get to a period where you could discuss things and not just- Not just have to pick a side. Well, have people start yelling at you and then try to destroy your career just because you have a difference of opinion. Where if you're on the same page going, hey, you know, this behavior is not correct and should be dealt with. And then you're disagreeing on type of punishment, length of punishment or anything like that.
Starting point is 01:46:37 And then it just becomes like this thing where that we live in a world now where you have to be afraid to say that stuff. To people who are allegedly progressive. It's like, how are you progressive if I have a difference of opinion and so then you're going to try to destroy me? Is the irony of that. I don't have a problem if somebody disagrees with me.
Starting point is 01:47:00 I would never try to go out and ruin them to the point that they're out on the street you know um and then i also have like a like a you know there's a lot of shit where it's just like this sounds like a job for the authorities and people who went to law school as opposed to me who's just some people on twitter yeah and me like what the fuck do i know about the legal system i don't you know i don't know any any of this stuff but like most people i do have an opinion and um you know i don't have a problem if somebody disagrees with me i would never go after them like that especially if they haven't done anything other than weigh in on a topic it's bizarre
Starting point is 01:47:41 everybody on the internet they're just such good people like you know without having to demonstrate it that's what i love like there'll be like a hashtag i saw one it was just uh things i don't tolerate and adults were literally weighing in on this and then they were just saying all of this obvious applause break shit like racism bigotry. My favorite one, mean people. It's like, what are you, fucking five mean people? And that's just like, what did you have to demonstrate that you don't do that?
Starting point is 01:48:17 Now, is there video of you being somewhere with a bunch of white people and someone drops the N-word and then you don't tolerate it? Is there any of that evidence? Or did you just fucking, just write a bunch of shit and it becomes like this self-serving fucking thing that's allegedly for the better good of society when it really isn't it's like all those jerk-offs on instagram acting like they're trying to inspire you and they're just trying to show you
Starting point is 01:48:39 all the cool shit they have and their six-pack abs you know i'm so fucking sick of people on instagram telling me how hard they're working yo we out here grinding out here trying to get this paper it's just like yeah everybody is oh do you have to work hard in life i didn't realize that it's just like my favorite one i love the one too where you bring all your cars out around the private jet and it's just like did you drive all those out there yourself and you just Ubered back to your garage? Did that take all day? Or did you have the gardener drive over the Hummer? I like the LeBron Instagram workouts.
Starting point is 01:49:13 And then you have to stand there and you cannot be looking at the camera. You got to be looking off. Looking sideways. Yeah. And you got to have a look on your face. This is like, you know, this is how we do it, man.
Starting point is 01:49:23 This is, oh, was that how you do it? I didn't know you could do it like that. I would have done it that way had this is how we do it, man. This is, oh, was that how you do it? I didn't know you could do it like that. I would have done it that way had I known how to do it. How do you do it? Oh, we're working hard. It's just like, it's like, none of this means anything. It's just, it's just somebody trying to, it's just like, just, just be an arrogant ass. Stop acting like you're trying to fucking help me.
Starting point is 01:49:42 The LeBron Instagram workout videos. You knew the old man in me was going to come out at some point in this fucking me. The LeBron Instagram workout videos. You knew the old man in me was going to come out at some point in this fucking podcast. The LeBron Instagram workout videos. Like, I can't imagine Bird of Magic doing that 30 years ago, 35 years ago. Well, in defense of him, though, that didn't exist. They would have. They would have been people who did that shit. Bird never would have had it.
Starting point is 01:49:58 Bird was like tarring his driveway during the summer. It's like Bird hurt his back tarring his fucking driveway. I know. Because they gave you that one standard brush. Yeah. I remember that. You want to pay somebody $7 an hour
Starting point is 01:50:09 to do his driveway. He's making like a million dollars a year. Well, that's how cheap he was. Come on, Larry. When he was in the Olympic Village, I ain't paying $8 for a beer and his six foot nine self
Starting point is 01:50:18 just walked down the street to a bar to go get a beer. You talk about the great athletes who fucked their careers up in some way. Nobody ever talks about Larry Bird just being cheap. If he's not tarring his own driveway, he maybe plays like seven more years. Like Bobby Orr, he only played nine years,
Starting point is 01:50:36 but it was because multiple people made runs at his knees and fucked his knees up to the point he couldn't play anymore. He also played reckless. And I mean this in a good way like he just he only he just played on 10 um there's some great great great bobby or youtube videos oh yeah oh yeah yeah like him him defending the goal without a mask because the goalie was out of there just like taking slap shots to the to the neck and uh and fighting people he was in some fights i remember hearing a great Gretzky story
Starting point is 01:51:05 where somebody was going, Wayne Gretzky, you're the greatest of all time. And there was a Bobby Orr video on the background. He goes, no, that guy. That guy's the greatest of all time. So when the great one said he's the greatest, yeah, he took it to a whole other level. We did my HBO show, You and the Great One.
Starting point is 01:51:22 You were like a little kid in the candy store talking about hockey. And he was laughing delightedly at you. Yeah. I think he was so excited that somebody had it. No, with you. I think he was so delighted that there was a hockey fan with a sense of humor. He was like, look at this guy. He's got hockey jokes. He loved it. Well, you go up to Canada, they got it. I was just so, I couldn't believe I was meeting him. And then he was just such a nice guy. And just like, yeah, hockey players in general are very down to earth.
Starting point is 01:51:56 I don't know if it's because of the game or whatever. It's the Canadian DNA, I think, is a big part of that. Yeah, but there's so many like Europeans. They're just still just in general, they're just like self-deprecating, like nice guys. Yeah, I don't know why. It's funny because then you see the game and they're just beating the shit out of each other.
Starting point is 01:52:17 They think they're a bunch of animals. Then you hang out with them. Oh, you know, how are you? Good to see you. Oh, it was a good fight. Have some beers. Sometimes you win, are you good to see you oh it was a good fight have it some beers sometimes you win sometimes you lose um so i got efforts for families let me promote some stuff efforts season three we're done uh netflix is going to give us a release date hopefully uh by october
Starting point is 01:52:39 and it should be coming out before the end of the year that's the last time we did one of these i told you how we wouldn't let my son watch it. That's good parenting. No, he started watching it. Kids love our show. Yeah. Kids love our show. I'm sure that crazy Netflix algorithm
Starting point is 01:52:54 that's going to control our lives someday is reporting back on the kids. But I don't know if they're signing in on their parents' account or whatever. No, they're doing that. They're signing into, you can flick over from like the kid's account to the dad account and that's how they're getting it.
Starting point is 01:53:09 Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's been a fun. And then MSG, for some reason you scheduled TD Bank North, I saw on October 5th. Uh-huh. It's almost definitely going to be a Red Sox playoff game. You know, it's awesome. It's like a Sophie's Choice type of situation.
Starting point is 01:53:24 I'm going to go it's like a sophie's choice type of situation i'm gonna go but i'm gonna go back for uh for like a week well everybody will they'll have uh they'll probably be watching the game live i don't know who knows maybe it's a road game but still they want to watch it yeah i didn't think about that as they were winning like a thousand games this year although they're playing 500 ball now which i I think is a great thing. They finally had their little swerve at a time when you would want it, which is August. Yeah, rather than October.
Starting point is 01:53:50 Yeah, exactly. Exactly. The Yankees haven't been winning, so they're still eight and a half back. Who's your MVP, Mookie or JD? Oh, that's tough. I think it's Dale. What about Dale though?
Starting point is 01:54:01 Because Dale prevented us. He, that guy prevents us from having any sort of a losing streak. Dude, but they're resting him for October. I know. I like that. You know what they're doing. I wish we had done that with Clements in 86.
Starting point is 01:54:11 Is Price all right? I know we had that comeback or hit him on the wrist. I never know with Price. Price and my daughter are the two most fragile people in my life right now. Don't know what to expect with Price. Just hope that he's going to make it. So, yeah, big tour and then the podcast. Big tour and then the, yeah, I got the podcast and F is for family and then front runner.
Starting point is 01:54:32 Those are the things I have going on in my life. Front runner. Front runner. Well, who's your character in front runner? It's funny. If you go on the website, it says that- They made up a fake name for you? No, for somebody says me i'm playing george
Starting point is 01:54:45 mcgovern so i keep getting all these questions are you playing george mcgovern no exactly i'm not oh but everybody's just like holy shit this guy what is this guy is he like daniel day lewis how the fuck is he pulling this off i don't know who put it up there i think it's hilarious and i'm not going to correct it until somebody else does but they have me there playing george you should just start doing when you do interviews and stuff. Like, yeah, I'm going to be George McGovern. Yeah, you know, I watched a lot of tape, you know, and wrote a bunch of notes.
Starting point is 01:55:11 No, I play a guy who works for the Miami Herald. Oh. Yeah, who, curiously enough, has a Boston accent. Well, he moved there from Boston. Yeah, he did, yeah. All my characters. For an internship. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:24 I remember one time I did a sitcom, a failed pilot that took place in Wisconsin. And how they explained the way my accent was, he went to BU for four years or something like that. And it's just like, oh, he just completely lost his, and then he goes back to Wisconsin that he should get his Midwest accent. But I can do it now. I think I could do a Midwest, more of a Midwest accent. But yeah. Bill Burr, pleasure as always, more of a Midwest accent, but yeah.
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