The Bill Simmons Podcast - Part 2: Zach Wilson’s Alive, Belichick’s in Trouble, Buffalo’s Cruising, and Week 5 Lines With Cousin Sal
Episode Date: October 2, 2023In Part 2 of a two-part podcast, The Ringer's Bill Simmons is joined by Cousin Sal to discuss the Chiefs' narrow victory over the Jets, the Cowboys' drubbing of the Patriots, and Dolphins-Bills (2:09)... before talking quarterback confidence rankings, Steelers-Texans, Colts-Rams, Christian McCaffrey's MVP game, and more (24:25). Next, they guess the lines for NFL Week 5 (47:15) before closing the show with Parent Corner (1:15:14). Host: Bill Simmons Guest: Cousin Sal Producer: Kyle Crichton The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming, please checkout theringer.com/RG to find out more or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Anyway, we are going to bring in Cousin Sal.
We're going to talk about the NFL, Patriots, Cowboys,
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So let's bring in Pearl Jim. All right, taping this.
It is 8.30 Sunday night.
I'm here with a giddy, looks like a pig that rolled in shit, Cousin Sal.
Oh, what do you have to make a fat joke off the bat?
Come on, buddy.
This is going to be fun.
Come on.
I thought that was the phrase, a pig that rolled in shit.
I'm not taking offense to anything. I want to come on here. I thought that was the phrase. A pig that rode in shit. I'm not taking offense to anything.
I want to come on here.
I want to be civil.
I want to talk about Drew for 20 minutes.
I want to talk about Taylor and Kelsey.
And then maybe 45 seconds to a minute on the Cowboys-Patriots.
Whatever you want to do.
Let's save Cowboys-Pats because that was such a blowout.
And we'll talk about Chris Collinsworth. I didn't know somebody could have a live
orgasm for an hour and a half on the air. It was like when Howard Stern has the people ride the
Sibian, like, Oh, Zach Wilson. Oh, he's making all the throws back. He was just like losing his
mind. I've never heard anyone hype up a decent performance.
I don't,
I won't be telling my grandkids about,
about,
uh,
Bill,
if I can't,
if I don't get to induct Zach Wilson into Canton,
something's very wrong.
And don't let me come across that Joe Namath in a dark alley.
I'm a,
I'm a punch his lights out.
Bill,
you know,
who was saying that Zach Wilson could have make all the throws. I mean, look at his lights out, Bill. You know that. Who was saying that Zach
Wilson couldn't make all the throws?
I mean, look at this, Mike. It's like
the last four weeks, we didn't make any
of these throws. I don't know what happened in that game.
It was 17-0. I
got annihilated today, except
for all of these different parlays and teases
I had with the Eagles and the Chiefs
tied to different teams. It was actually going to
save my night. All the Chiefs had to do teams. And it was actually going to save by night.
All the Chiefs had to do was win by like two.
Joe Howell special.
He said it.
Eagles, Chiefs, minus two and a half.
They never went to nine.
It was easy.
Mahomes, 17-0.
Zach Wilson on the other team.
And it's like, I don't feel you can't be safer than this.
And then all of a sudden, safety, jet score.
Zach starts getting into rhythm,
Collinsworth starts losing his ejaculate
all over the game. And all of a sudden,
we're sweating out this game
where the Chiefs, they have no receivers that
seem like they can get open.
One of their offensive linemen is just
committing a holding every five minutes.
Taylor. His name is Taylor.
Did that game make you feel
worse about the Chiefs or better about
the Jets if you had to pick one?
Well, here's what I'll say, and it's a bigger
picture thing. Let's start
with the 10. We'll get back to this, but
with the 10 a.m. games on the West Coast,
we watched 20 teams. By that time, we had
watched 20 teams, right?
Because of the London game.
I was impressed with two of them.
There were two or maybe three of these
teams that could maybe
get past the first round.
And I'm including the Eagles
in there, who were not very good. The Bills, obviously.
And I'm like, I don't know. The Dolphins,
I guess. But the flip side of that is
the very bad teams have
all shown
signs of brilliance a little bit,
right?
Like I feel like including the Pats.
I, yeah, no, no, no, not those are the very worst teams.
No, but I feel like, honestly, I feel like, um, who do we just watch the jets, the bears,
the Raiders have played better football than the Vikings and the Bengals.
They play better quarters.
So you can't take any of the really crap teams for granted,
but you also can't like anybody to go far
because there's just not five or six or seven teams like that.
So I think I'm more impressed with the Jets.
I like that they have something in them.
I'm with you.
I thought that was the first time their defense looked like the defense
that was hyped but hadn't actually done anything resembling what we saw tonight. I'm with you. I thought that was the first time their defense looked like the defense that was hyped but hadn't
actually done anything resembling
what we saw tonight. Mahomes, he had
a couple weird short arm plays where
I was almost expecting to find
out he has like a sore
UCL or something after the game.
He has a sore. He has a cold sore in his arm.
And
there was the whole conspiracy theory that
because the NFL is scripted, they
just needed that game to be closer
for four quarters for the Taylor Swift advertising
that was going on.
I don't feel like their guys were getting
open though. And like
when Kelsey came out on that one third and 20
because he was tired, you're just sitting there going,
oh my God, like no, but how are they going to get
anything to happen? They, everyone
went nuts about that pass interference on
Gardner that kept the drive alive.
They showed three replays.
To me, it was pass interference.
You're not allowed to grab a guy.
You're not allowed to grab a guy for
over a second.
Past five yards? Come on.
I know. But you talk about the
script, and I know you're kidding, but they
don't want to cut to a sad Taylor Swift at the end, right?
That's the last thing they want to do is cut to very, very sad Tay-Tay.
So, yeah, maybe it was holding, but I hate when they're late with it.
I hate when they're late.
Why are they so late with it?
I feel like the ball was intercepted, and then he threw the flag.
It was the only thing that was cautioned to me.
It was a little suspicious how late the flag was.
But my big takeaway from the game,
just what a massive mistake Aaron Rodgers made
not forcing a celebrity relationship with Taylor Swift
over the last five years.
What a missed marketing opportunity that was.
And he goes to the game tonight.
They keep showing him.
He's got his cast on.
Like he tried to grab
some of the limelight
and it just wasn't enough.
He just got steamrolled by Taylor.
And it's like,
this was sitting here for five years.
You've had a bunch of celebrity
relationships, Aaron Rodgers.
This, there's no bigger relationship.
This Taylor, Travis Kelsey,
like he's got the number one podcast now.
He's gained a thousand Twitter followers.
My wife knows who he is.
She didn't know who he was five minutes ago.
And Rodgers just has to be kicking himself.
Just fire your whole advisory team, Rodgers.
Start over.
They should have told you.
Yeah, probably.
But she would have hated him too, is the other thing.
I don't think she would have put up with it.
The politics might have been an issue.
Yeah, who knows?
Yeah, the whole thing.
The vaccine might have come between them.
I think it'd be so much funnier
if she was dating Cole Komet, like the Bears
tight end. And then there's just
no fun cutaway to her
at all. I thought you said it was a
tight end on a Midwestern team. I didn't
realize. I got the wrong ones. Cole Komet.
Mahomes,
who, that slide
at the end, when you think he's running
in for the touchdown,
and he does the high IQ play and slides.
And of course, like how many gambling things were affected by the slide?
Over under?
The spread over under, yeah.
Spread over under, all kinds of things.
But it was the right move.
But they showed him after just walking through,
shaking hands with everybody.
And he really, for a guy who I've never really been able
to support his haircut or facial hair
or really any of his choices,
he's really got a cool swagger to him.
He was moving through.
They showed him going up to Zach Wilson.
He's like, hey, buddy, you fucking.
And I don't know.
He's just cool.
I like Mahomes.
I hate when they lower the audio
because they know an F-bomb is coming.
It's like, oh, come on.
You're showing this so we could hear the conversation, right?
And then you're backing it up. That's too much of a tease.
It's also alarming
that then you realize that
we're seeing this on a 15-second delay
from when things are actually happening
and we're cheering like it's live,
but it's not.
Yeah, it's very much delayed. Kelsey and Swift already have It's very, very much the like Kelsey and the Swift already have like three
children by the time they're showing them in the box.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was a great game though.
That was, that was fun.
They made it.
It was fun.
And for Chris to have a multiple orgasm during the game, I thought was
Zach Wilson.
I mean, this guy's got all the throws.
Never seen throws like this in my life.
There was some, I follow some Jets fans on Twitter.
There were just some classic tweets and just pictures.
And at one point, fantasy that somebody tweeted
that if Robert Sala finishes four and 13,
finishes his third season,
he'll have the worst career record of anyone in the last 55 years.
And Fantasy just retweeted it.
It just said, Robert Sala is a loser.
That was his tweet.
The Jets fans are in a dark place.
They're 1-3.
But on the other hand, we watch football all day.
Are there seven AFC teams you like? No.
Because the Chargers are a playoff team right
now, and they suck. They're terrible.
So, I don't know. I don't know.
Can you find seven? No, and if
the Chargers played the Jets, you would never
be like, oh, that is definitely a
teasable game. I'm definitely taking the Chargers
minus one or whatever it is after
a teaser. So, that's what I mean.
These bottom dwellers
are going to be a pain
in the ass gambling wise,
which is all I really care about.
And so it's going to make it tough
to survive.
Yeah, so we got
we got Bills, Dolphins,
Ravens,
KC.
There's four.
All four AFC South teams
are two and two.
The Steelers are the worst, least inspiring 2-2 of anyone probably in the history of football.
Cleveland's 2-2 in their defense.
Lamar took it to him today.
Who knows whether that's a whole...
We found out our quarterback got squashed
an hour before the game.
Stefanski's throwing in the first quarter
for reasons that remain unclear. I'm just trying to make that game 3-0 the game. Stefanski's throwing in the first quarter for reasons that remain unclear.
I'm just trying to make that game 3-0
if I'm Stefanski. 3-0
final. My quarterback, please
don't do anything. But no, they start throwing with him.
But the Bengals,
the Jets,
I don't think we'll get to seven
playoff teams that we like. There could
be an 8-9 or 9-8 or
8-8-1 type
seventh seed this year. It's funny because we thought
that for the NFC, but now you're
switching to the NFC. I mean, you're right.
It's just not deep. And you were even
asking on our text chain, what's your confidence
in Tua at this point? After putting
70 points up, and you're not wrong.
It's just how effed up
this league is. You can't be too confident
in any quarterback.
And if you look at the odds, I know you're not going to like this
because we don't like to give the Bills credit,
but Josh Allen is right there at the top now for MVP.
And it's a low, low number, right?
What did I send you?
350?
Listen, I just thought they were overrated coming into the season,
and I was wrong.
And I'm going to take the loss
because their defense looked fast as shit today.
And I thought that was the most interesting game
from a standpoint of everyone was blowing smoke up Miami all week,
including myself and including everyone on the Wise Guys show
except for one person.
And the Bills were like,
no, actually, we have the best offense.
And they just...
Josh Allen,
the last three games, he had that stinky first game. Last three's looked great.
And I don't know, if we're
ranking the AFC teams,
you'd have to rank them first
after the four games. I don't know if I would bet
on them as the best team, but they've been the most
impressive, right? Who would you put instead?
They reminded me of the 90s Bills
a little bit, right? Just how they move the ball
and like, oh, why are they
giving three here? And then they just pummel you.
They don't care what you did
last week, but they're running
the ball too, and that's what's different from the first
couple weeks. And
yet the Jets were very close to beating
the Bills and the Chiefs.
So that's what we're left with here.
Right.
The Patriots and the Chiefs. So that's what we're left with here. Right. The Patriots and the Cowboys.
Oh, okay.
All right.
I didn't even...
Yeah.
Yeah, we should talk about that.
I've hit rock bottom.
But let's talk about your team first.
So you righted the ship.
You won a big game.
It was impressive, really, from the jump.
You feel better or
did the Pats suck?
I feel better.
Listen, I put on a brave face and I was a
jerk on our text exchange all weekend, but
I was nervous about this until
probably like 25 minutes into the game,
which is probably when
you guys gave up. After like Matt Jones'
fifth terrible play?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, something like that.
But I have news for you at the end of all this.
But, yeah, I don't know that the offense is right.
You know, I'm still not sure our offense is great,
but our defense is right back to where it was,
swarming and doing all the things.
That guy Bland is very, very underrated back deep.
And, yeah, I loved what we did defensively.
Now, we're going to get on next
week. It's after the Sunday night game.
It's 49ers-Cowboys, and I'll probably be miserable
again. But yeah,
I like that we weren't gouged by Stevenson.
That's for sure.
One thing I noticed about your defense is when
the other team's quarterback throws it
right to your defense, they're
pretty good.
You hate it.
Mac Jones.
Yeah.
I'm out.
I'm completely out.
I can't come back.
Mac Jones, it's the win game
in Buffalo that they won
where he threw like one pass.
He's 10 and 12.
He's 25 TDs,
20 interceptions.
And this is just since Brady left at the end of 2019.
And we had that Cam Newton season
when he couldn't complete a pass
that was longer than four yards.
And then we have this quarterback
who just went backwards,
basically in eight game intervals
to wherever he is now.
It looked like, I don't want to say he gave up,
but it looked like he was broken
by the beginning
of third quarter. I was surprised he started
the second half because it was like,
this guy's done. He's not bringing them back.
Then they brought him back for another one.
He's one of the worst
five QBs I watch every week.
Wow. That's saying a lot.
That is saying a lot.
Do you not agree?
They haven't gotten to 20 points in four games. I. That's saying a lot. That is saying a lot. Do you not agree? Terrible ones.
Wait, they haven't gotten to 20 points in four games.
I think he's right.
I'm not going to get up here and make a big deal out of Mac Jones being great.
That's for sure. But I don't know that I could separate him from that mess that we watch
in those 1 p.m. Eastern kickoffs.
That's for sure.
But honestly, you look at him,
blow your eyes,
look at the New England receiving
quartet or whatever more.
These names are just awful
and they don't get separation
and they're not ever open.
And Mac Jones is what he is.
But by the way, nobody ever said
you should have the best quarterback
in all of football
every day of your life.
For my whole life, yeah life after 30 years old.
You know?
I know.
And here's another little secret.
I think your coach sucks a little bit.
I really do.
Well, I think that's the discussion that's going to start this week about.
Here's.
I think Patriots fans do everything they can to blame everyone else but Belichick.
And I get it.
I know why.
I know why.
Because you're holding on to the past and everything
else. But he is really...
I think the game has passed him by.
He surrounds himself with losers,
basically, but on purpose so that when
they go on to fail, he looks better.
I just don't know.
And it doesn't work anymore because he doesn't have Tom Brady.
I didn't want him to go down
like this. I was texting somebody
tonight about how it's like if Seinfeld
had just kept going past the 10th season
like six more seasons
and Julia Louis-Dreyfus left
and they replaced her with like Margaret Cho
and then Michael Richards left
and they replaced him
with like Doug Stanhope
and it was just
hey it's still Seinfeld.
But it's like, nah, this isn't Seinfeld anymore.
And the writing just got worse and worse and worse.
And people are like, nah, it's still Seinfeld.
It's going to come back. And
it's just not going to come back.
And we're now four years
since Brady. And that last Brady season
wasn't fun either. But
I can't really
refute the Belichick stuff.
The team is so sloppy.
They do the dumbest things at the worst possible times.
They have terrible turnovers.
They don't protect the ball.
From a game plan standpoint,
I don't understand why we weren't running the ball
down your throats.
Why Max even that involved?
And I just can't remember the last time
I watched a crisply,
crisply coach Patriots game.
And he's got what?
Two family members on his staff.
Right.
It's the NFL.
It's like,
why aren't you getting the best coaches?
I,
I hate the nepotism thing.
I hate,
I,
you know,
I hate that thing.
I think he's going to have been for a real tough week this week,
because this is like rock bottom for this franchise post Brady.
They're one and three.
And if you look at the schedule, it's hard to imagine them getting six.
I thought they were going to cover and possibly win today
because their defense had been that good.
But then Gonzalez gets hurt.
I'm not sure when he's coming back.
Judon's out for at least three months.
Those were the two best players in the defense.
So you look at that and then you look at an offense that can't score.
And a coaching staff that seems like it's a
step behind. I was
thinking like
I wrote down the bleakest AFC
team. And this I wrote down
before the Jets game. It's Vegas,
the Jets, Denver, and the Pats. Now you would
take the Jets off. At least there's like signs
of hope. Denver is
a mess. Vegas,
the Pats might have the
weakest future in the AFC.
Do we tank?
What do we do? I think eventually
you're going to get angrier and angrier with Belichick.
I think it's going to be evident that
he's the problem there. I can't get angry. No, you will.
You make fun of fantasy, but you're probably about
six weeks away from tweeting the same thing.
I can't. Belichick is an oracle. Or Ben is going to get on your Twitter somehow and he's going to Bill, you make fun of fantasy, but you're probably about six weeks away from tweeting the same thing.
Belichick is an oracle.
Or Ben is going to get on your Twitter somehow, and he's going to tweet that.
Belichick is a loser. Listen, when James Babydoll Dixon lost his fastball, we stayed with him.
We didn't turn on him.
Is that true?
We accepted the situation for what it is.
When he started vacationing 20, 25 weeks a year,
did we turn on him?
No, we still love him. We still text him.
We still love him. We make fun of him.
We still let him get involved in our business from time to time.
That's true. We didn't give up on him.
He did too many good things
for us. You're right.
They kind of have the same personality
too, so I know what you're saying.
Abrasive. One and the same. Well, I wrote't know. Yeah, and they kind of have the same personality, too. So I know what you're saying. Yeah. Abrasive.
One and the same.
Well, I wrote this down.
Zach Wilson for Mac Jones, question mark.
Ooh.
Which team says no faster after tonight?
No, seriously.
If you're the Jets, would you take Mac Jones for Zach Wilson? Like five days ago, you would have.
But right now, what do you do?
I was going to do this to you with Josh Dobbs, but I guess Zach Wilson? Like five days ago you would have, but right now, what do you do? I was going to do this
to you with Josh Dobbs, but
I guess Zach Wilson.
I would throw in a third round pick
with Zach Jones. Would you really?
Yeah. Josh Dobbs is
solid. Oh, Mac needs
to go. It's just going to get worse.
12-21, 150,
two interceptions.
You forgot about the strip sack fumble.
Strip sack fumble for a touchdown.
Two interceptions and a strip sack.
That was fun too.
Oh man, it was all so much fun.
Listen, believe me, I think about this too.
And when Drew Holiday signed today,
I was like, oh shit,
if the Cowboys blow out the Patriots,
I lose Simmons.
It's October 1st and I already lost him for the year.
He's not going to like football.
And then I'm like, I don't care. It'll be fun to blow him out. But I was looking at how long
we've been doing this. 11, 2016, you win.
15, 30-6, you win.
19, 13-9, you win.
21, we beat you in overtime, 35-29.
Didn't even feel like a win.
It was just a relief.
And then today, let me have one of these once in a while.
Come on.
Give me a break.
Over 15 years.
Thank you.
Here's what I have.
Here's why I got really sad about that.
Because today started out great.
The Drew Holiday trade drops out of nowhere.
Watching the London game,
watching you guys on Wise Guys,
all of a sudden we get Drew Holiday.
It's like, this is a great day.
I put down a couple more bets.
I'm like, this is my day.
I go 0-5 in million dollar picks.
The Belichick era ends.
And I got really sad for like five minutes. And then, then I went and I'm like, you know what?
I have the DVDs, the six titles of all the Blu-rays and the DVDs. I have that. I have,
I have like books that were written about the Pats,
like Seth Wickersham, Better to be Feared.
There's this Belichick autobiography.
I have this page two column that somebody printed out
and Tom Brady autographed.
This is what I have now,
the memorabilia from a really nice run that's now over.
You know what?
That's what losers do.
They reminisce.
They sit home and reminisce.
Yeah.
It's like,
what's the lowest form of conversation
is remember when?
Welcome to the Patriot Station.
Is that what?
That's what Tony Soprano said that, right?
Yeah, Tony Soprano said that to Pauly.
Yeah, that's right.
It was a good one.
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QB fans confidence meter,
a scale of zero to 10.
I'm personally at a zero with Mac,
but I think the average of past fans,
there might be a one,
there might be a two.
So let's give him a one.
Zach Wilson was a zero heading into today,
and we all thought this was going to be his last start.
Now it's like, all right, there's some stuff there.
Collinsworth had three orgasms.
Maybe there's hope.
So maybe the Jets fans are like a two, two and a half.
So this is what I mean week to week.
Let me stop you.
You don't think there's a universe where Mac Jones could have a game
like Zach Wilson had today so that could lift you to a two or a three.
I mean,
come on. These quarterbacks every other week.
There's something like the Tannehill,
like Tennessee was just,
I don't know.
God,
I don't see it.
I don't see it.
You know what?
What other teams are just real,
really bad.
Then I'm going to read you.
I'm going to read you more quarterbacks.
Tell me their fans confidence,
what you think it is.
Desmond Ritter.
I mean, to me that Desmond Ritter. I mean, to me,
Desmond Ritter, Mac Jones,
the same. Three.
Three, four. I'm going to say lower.
I'm going to say two. Them not getting
Lamar gets worse every week. Yeah, that was
less confident in their organization.
But, yeah. Kenny Pickett.
Really low. Really low.
I feel like two or three.
We wait two and a half hours for him to come up with something big.
I knew when I was doing all my futures this year,
I was like,
that's stuff I like.
It doesn't feel right.
We even talked about it.
It doesn't totally feel right this year.
And I was like,
who's going to be?
It's maybe the Steelers.
And I got all excited about them.
And Pickett just looks terrible.
I mean,
Pickett looks as bad as Mack.
And from the advanced stats,
he's actually, I think, worse.
And their offensive coordinator,
I think now that Patricia is out,
I think he's the single worst
offensive coordinator.
Their plays, you can call them
from the couch.
It's like, oh, I wonder what
they're going to do here
on this third and one.
Is it going to be Najee Harrison
at nine guys?
Or the play where the slow play action where Kenny Pickett takes forever
and then he gets sacked or hit?
It's awful.
But that's what gets me crazy.
Mike Tomlin's going to go down as one of the greatest head coaches ever.
He doesn't have to keep the offensive coordinator around
unless he thinks it makes him look better.
Like, wow, I'm pulling these games out
in spite of the worst play calling of all time.
Dude, third quarter, they're down 16-0.
They're getting their asses kicked by the Texans.
I had the Steelers, and I was just like,
Texans coming off a really nice win last week.
This is a perfect going-backwards spot for them.
Steelers need it.
I trust the Steelers' defense.
Texans' offensive line, no.
Texans look great again.
We can talk about them in a second, but 16-0 third quarter.
It's fourth and four,
and the Steelers
bring out the field goal team,
and they're on the 25.
You guys aren't going to get to
20 points. You can't settle for three.
If you can't make this fourth and four,
you don't serve to win the game anyway.
They just have no confidence in anything.
I thought Salah did the same thing tonight.
Oh, he did.
But it was against the Chiefs who were
not done scoring. But yeah, you're right.
How about
what do you have for Howell
on Washington? I don't know.
I feel like that guy doesn't have a chance. He does
sling it sometimes,
which makes me think maybe there is something there,
but really,
really crappy
offensive line.
He really ambushed
every other play,
so he drops back.
Five,
five, six.
Yeah, I think he's a five
because like,
so that Eagles-Washington game,
and I said before
I had the Chiefs
and the Eagles,
I never do this
but I had so much confidence
about it
I teased
parlayed them
with a bunch of games
and
freaking
the Phillies just going down
for the game winning field goal
and they
they throw it deep
to A.J. Brown
who catches it
for a touchdown
and then fucking taunts
the
Washington guy
just classic
and it wasn't even
that good of a taunt.
Like if you're going to taunt him,
like if it's going to be a 15-yard penalty,
like stand over him and swing your balls in his face.
Like really earn the 15 yards.
Did this like quick, put the ball next to him.
So of course the NFL treats that like it's a horse collar
where you blew out both knee ligaments
of the running back or something.
15 yards.
Like God forbid that had 5, 10, 15.
So all of a sudden, they're kicking off and Washington has the ball,
like they're on 40.
And I'm sitting there going, are you fucking kidding me?
And I was actually a little bit scared of Sam Howell.
Yeah.
So that makes me think he might be better than some of these other guys
because I would not have been scared of Ritter or Mack Jones or whoever.
But I was like, How how can kind of run around
and buy time and...
Against the Eagles defense.
Yeah, sure.
So then they score, they get the touchdown
on the fourth and 10 because God forbid,
these defenses, they run these plays
where it's fourth and 10.
The other team has scored a touchdown
and somehow it's one cornerback by himself
against the receiver and one of the sides and the
guy just stops and turns around he's wide open yeah but that's the play every time like guys
that's the side the righty to the side the righty is rolling out we know we know where the ball's
going but whatever so then Rivera who I think went into a coma he goes for one yeah it's like you're
this is a miracle you have a 50 chance to win the game you're... This is a miracle. You have a 50% chance
to win the game. You're not going to beat them in overtime
so they don't get it. You got to drop
the Riverboat name. You're done
with the Riverboat.
If you don't go for two there on the road,
you have to give it
to somebody else. He's like the Riverboat
where they had that huge brawl
two months ago in Mississippi or whatever
where they had all the camera angles. He's that river
boat now. Where are you on fields?
What do you think the confidence
meter is? He was amazing for
two and a half quarters today. I didn't
have a lot of the game on. I was just watching the red
zone highlights and it seemed like it was
like, oh my God, he's going to have 400 yards and
100 rushing yards. And then of course they
blow a 21 point lead. Fascinated
by it because Denver scored first and I was
like, you know what? Chicago's a team that
sucks and they're not going to get in anyone's way and I'm
going to live bet Denver. So I do that and then
Chicago comes back and now they have
like a 28-7 lead. I'm like, all right,
I'm going to live
bet Chicago minus six and a
half with five other things that of course
would look good. But Fields
never had a 300 yard game
and he had 263 at half and ended up with 335 and then like well this is a terrible terrible like a
legendarily bad secondary in denver so this is why he's putting up the points i can't i want to i
want to root for the guy but if you look at any advanced metrics and I know you talked to Lombardi. He really is rock bottom.
That's sad.
But confidence-wise, three.
I'd go lower.
I'd probably be one and a half.
But they could move on.
They're going to get the first two picks of the draft.
They could at least move on.
These other teams you mentioned are stuck.
There was a thing today.
There was an article about how Carolina is trying to find a number one receiver.
Cause they,
it's not like they can go.
Oh,
and 17 or two and 15 or whatever.
Cause they don't have their first round pick.
So the menace will try to get better where this is a weird one,
but where are you on Jimmy G these days?
Cause I thought Aiden O'Connell had some good moments.
He fucked up on the,
on the game time drive,
but I almost,
that,
that was just a weird play and it seemed like
he misread the defense or something. But I thought
for the most part, took some big hits.
I liked his throws.
I thought there was a fearlessness to him.
And I think I'm
if I'm the Raiders, I'm going
nowhere anyway. Like, why wouldn't you just
want to play O'Connell over Jimmy G?
He's got six picks in three games, Jimmy G.
I think that's exactly what Josh McDaniels was thinking, right?
He could have gone with Hoyer, but he went with O'Connell.
He could have gone for it on fourth down last week against the Steelers,
but they kicked the field goal.
There's no confidence in Jimmy G.
We're not going to see a guy with a concussion the week before
come back the next week.
It hasn't happened since, I think think week five or six last year.
That's like an unwritten rule.
Yeah.
I think they should go with O'Connell.
I played. And I thought they could
have stolen that Chargers game. And once
again, our guy,
Brandon Staley,
he just can't fucking help himself.
It's like once a game,
he's almost like we both had sons
in that 7 to 9
range 7 to 9 year old range
when they start testing you
they start doing shit
and it's kind of like how far can I push
dad and then deep down
they're thinking like I might be able to kick his ass
right now if I punch him in the balls and
they just become irrational confidence
that's Brandon Staley as an NFL head coach
he's like maybe I'll just go for this again.
This drives the fan base crazy, and I might get fired if it doesn't work,
but I just can't help myself.
I'm Brandon Staley. I'm going to do it.
Dying to get fired, dying to get, like you said, suspended
or grounded or something.
And it's funny.
It's like if someone was dropped from Mars right when they go for it
on fourth and one, right before they line up and said to me, oh, what should they do here?
And I'd press pause and I'd be like, I don't know what they should do, but you're about to see what
they shouldn't do. Ready? I'm going to play it right now. All right. And then the announcer's
like, well, Herbert, here's the thing with fourth and one with Herbert. He's got the bad left hand.
They just iced it down for 20 minutes.
So he's not going to be under center.
Oh, look, he's under center.
Okay.
Right.
All right.
So, of course, he can't take a snap or whatever.
They get stopped. It's so good.
He's so bad.
He's so bad.
The Raiders had a D-line get kicked out in that game.
They fell way behind.
And Staley just can't help himself.
Where are you on Cousins
right now, confidence meter?
He killed me last week.
He really did. Not getting a
playoff in 25 side. That
seemed like this is what you would expect from the
Josh Dobbs and the Aiden O'Connells
of the world.
I don't know what to think of that team.
I really don't. I had so much high hopes.
They covered today.
Plus 320.
They won and covered because it was a defensive play, really, right?
I mean, I know they had one against them, too, but I don't know.
You can't.
And he was like the highest scoring fantasy player.
He had the most yards passing, and then he did nothing today.
If you have like Addison, you get nothing out of him.
I don't know.
I feel like they should put up 35 a game with that offense. Don't have confidence. Tua? Well, we took a lot
of shit. He was at 10 heading into the week. Yeah. And I don't think you read the replies on,
and I'm probably making a mistake saying that I do, but people are really mad that we didn't give Miami props
for their 70-point performance last week.
And maybe we were right to skip it.
I never gave up like a quarter in.
I don't know.
It's like watching a college game where one team is really good
and the other team is about to fire their coach.
I'm not going to be a reactionary.
He's still a seven or an eight.
The confidence to me is
still with him staying healthy.
Well, so that was what I noticed
today. Well, he had a couple bad throws too. I thought
they harassed him.
But there were a couple times where he hit
him where he just kind
of stopped you watching
it stop breathing for a split second.
Like, is he going to get up?
That was the first game so far this season. I was like,
oh, we got nailed on that one. What happened?
We forgot to mention this
talking about Buffalo. They lost
White for the season.
Tredavious, right. He had Achilles
and you could kind of tell right away from the way he
was reacting, but that was
such a bummer because their defense, you know,
was really looking good.
They were about to get amazing with Von Miller coming back.
So, yeah, that's rough.
Hey, where are you on Watson now that because he didn't play,
the Browns completely fell apart?
Maybe like a six?
Do Browns fans appreciate him now?
We have a friend who hates the Browns.
Yeah.
And I was like, you sure Watson wasn't the answer now after this?
I said the same thing.
Right.
Honestly, just that team.
I think maybe they weren't Super Bowl bound, but I thought they were very solid.
They could have had like 12 wins with that defense.
And if they had Chubb and Watson, who was just okay.
Just as good as
one of the
middle names that you just mentioned.
I thought they were going to be okay.
What's the ruling on million dollar picks
when I take the Browns minus
two and a half?
Watson out of nowhere gets scratched
three days later and the line moves
four and a half points.
Should that be able to just scratch
that off? Should that be a loss for me? Should there be a rule, if you're making picks on
Thursday for anything and the starting QB gets scratched and the line moves four points or more,
the bet is null? It seems relatively fair, right? Yeah. Well, I think you have to be honest with
yourself. If Lamar had scratched,
would you have accepted it as a win?
Well, yeah. I think that's fair.
Okay. Yes. Then fine. You should get the whole place.
I'm taking the loss, but it was such a bummer
because I think that was my favorite
pick. I was really excited
about it and
it just wasn't happening.
Can we talk about the Texans really quick?
Because I think CJ Stroud would be a 9 or a 10
for Texans fans and the conference beater.
They kind of kicked Pittsburgh's ass.
That wasn't just,
oh, Pickett didn't play well in Mac Canada.
They gained twice as many yards.
They had twice as many first downs.
Just eye test,
because I had that game on the TV the whole time.
Just receivers making plays.
They always seemed like the ball was moving.
They had a crazy pass rush.
And I know the Steelers have a bad offensive line
and it's a game on the road.
So, you know, there's a couple reasons.
But I got to say, I think that might be the best AFC South team.
Is that inconceivable?
No. Is there a team you that inconceivable? No.
Is there a team you like more than them?
No.
No, it's fine.
I mean, I don't like getting caught up in these South conversations
because everyone's 2-2, right?
No, we got to do it.
All right, I know.
Okay.
All right.
They got blown out by the Ravens.
That was a crappy game to start, right?
25-9.
Then 31-20 to Colts.
Yeah, but remember that 25-9, that game was close for like two and a half quarters.
And then the Ravens pulled away.
But they've just laid waste to these teams.
They beat Jags by 20 and Steelers by three scores.
Yeah, and it wasn't one of those typical games
that the Steelers were going to get back into.
You're right.
The defense was great.
And Stroud is having an amazing, what, over 1,200 yards now
through four games?
Stroud's the only one who's done this?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Very confident.
So right now, oh man, they're still plus 480 on FanDuel.
To win that division?
So if you go to the, I can't believe we're doing the AFC South.
Somebody should be electrocuting us right now.
Jacksonville's plus 150.
Titans are plus 190.
And they had a nice win today.
The Titans are like,
if they could just go up 10-3,
the game's over.
And if they go down 13-3,
the game's also over.
It's like one of those teams.
Houston's plus 480.
Indy's plus 500.
I watched that whole Indy Rams game
because I had Indy in a tease.
And I had Indy at million dollar picks.
They came roaring back.
And I... Mike, I just... and I had and I had Indian million dollar picks they came roaring back and I
Mike
I just
Richardson
I just
ow
he's
really entertaining
he has like
five plays a game
and you're like
there it is man
you fucking
you're like
giant Cam Newton
and then he'll
sail
wide
a pass
right over
somebody's head
every once in a while but
I don't know I like the confidence there's a swagger
and an aura to him
I'm in on that team
and they went up against
Pekunic Chua and that was that
that was a fun game
they lose the coin toss the Rams go
all the way down they never even get the ball on OT
that was that
yeah the south is weird who would have thought That was that. Yeah, the South is
weird. Who would have thought?
That was my rat game of the week. Tennessee,
Cincinnati. I was like, they're
begging you. Two weeks in a row, Cincinnati
was laying two and a half. Two and a half to
the Rams. They win Monday night. They're doing
it again. Fandle giving away
free money. I was like, no way. This can't
be, but I'm also not taking the Titans.
And then they just smoked the crap out of him.
We haven't talked about the Bengals, but they look
they really just, are they the worst?
And I know he's banged up, but
are they the worst playoff team from last year?
It's probably the Giants.
Giants, Bengals, Vikings.
Those three? It's not
the guy who had Tom
Brady that left, you would think. It would be Tampa Bay. It's not. But the had Tom Brady that left, you would think.
It would be Tampa Bay.
It's not.
But the thing is,
if we're going to
put Burr on one leg,
basically,
which is how he's played
the first four weeks.
Yeah.
And he,
you'd think he was worth
five, six wins
for them last year,
whatever.
He was one of the five
best QBs,
and now he's not.
And it seems like
their defense is worse.
Doesn't seem like they're as tough. I'm not crossing
them off yet though. I think
if you're giving me Bengals, Giants, or Vikings,
what team could I
see roaring back? I would say Bengals
because of the conference and because Burrow
get healthier and healthier. There's no way.
I mean, they've had...
I wrote this down. They've had 49 points
in four games.
So they definitely might suck.
And Joe Burrow is definitely 100% of fantasy serial killer.
He's just gone across the country like Ted Bundy.
But I don't know.
I find it hard to believe they're just going to average 12 points a game for the entire season.
They're going to score 200 points this year.
We don't have to cross them off because like you said, the 7 seed
could be 8-9 or 9-8.
They just have to go on a decent
run the rest of the way.
I talked to TJ Hushmanzada.
I don't want to drop
names. I was like, what is it
like when the D-backs know you
have to cut your route?
You can't do fly patterns because
Joe Burrow can't
let it sling it downfield.
It's like your whole game plan
is screwed up.
There's nothing you can do for that.
Unless Mixon's going to break
tackles or something,
that offense is...
Now, they shouldn't be putting up
three against the Titans.
That's ridiculous.
But yeah, there's definitely...
So they've had...
They played four games
and they've gotten their asses
completely kicked in two of them., they played four games and they've gotten their asses completely kicked in two of them.
Pittsburgh's played four games and they got their asses completely kicked in two of them.
Not a good sign.
It's not good to be through week four and 50% of the time.
The Pittsburgh's had the history of they just kind of, for whatever reason, just get better and better as the season goes along.
Right.
But Bengals, they might suck. of a reason just get better and better as the season goes along.
Bengals,
they might suck.
T. Higgins out too now for a little bit?
I knew it.
When I was trying to figure out the season in August and
early September, and I was like,
seven teams aren't going to make the playoffs.
This is what happens every year, and I can only get to
four. I'm like, oh man, I'm not
seeing the season right. It's seven every year and I can only get to like four and I'm like, oh man, I'm not seven of last year's
playoff teams. Yeah, it's seven every year,
right? So already we know the Giants,
the Vikings, Bengals
might not make it, but you go through and you're
going to get your seven.
Yeah, other than that,
Eagles, Washington.
Can I just say something about the Eagles?
Do you see enough from, do you get concerned about them yet or no?
Yeah, it's concerning that they're 4-0
and they still need to get their shit together, it seems.
Right.
It's like a bad 4-0.
It's weird.
I don't think the Eagles fans feel good about it.
Right.
And they look great Monday night,
and then they come back,
and the team that beat them last year,
you'd think they'd have a chip on their shoulder,
but they really didn't.
But can we just talk about the Hurts shove or the Tush push?
I know it's legal and everything.
They're banning it.
I know they should ban it.
No, it's just like it's emasculating.
If you're Jalen Hurts, do you want to be like,
all right, hey, you could probably do this yourself,
but we're going to push you, all right?
We're going to shove you. And then when you go back to pass, we're going to push you, all right? We're going to shove you.
And then when you go back to pass, we're going to sling your arm forward for you too.
Where does it end?
I'd be emasculated if I were him.
I'm not saying it's illegal or anything.
I'm glad they have it working for them, but I would feel like a sissy.
I hate the tush push.
Get that the fuck out.
That place should be banned and now other teams
are trying it
you know what
what's going to happen
is somebody's going to
like break their back
during the tush push
and then we're going to
all go oh wow
we shouldn't do this anymore
right
and now quarterbacks
are pushing running backs
who did that today
was that Howell
no there was a quarterback
it was a good quarterback
I think
that actually like
pushed a running back
like
well the Eagles
are shoving each other.
They ran a different version of the
tush push where Kurt Spake, the
tush push, came out and then Gainwell pushed
him anyway. Right, right, right.
He needs to be pushed.
I don't think their offensive line
looks like it did last year
is my big thing I've noticed.
And they're also slow
in the linebackers, which we knew heading into the year.
And it seems like
if you can get enough time to throw,
there's people open.
But I'm surprised that...
You lose coordinators,
you lose guys,
it's tough to repeat.
And yet they're 4-0.
So what are we talking?
I guess the last thing on my list was,
before we do Guest Alliance,
was there's some...
This was McCaffrey's MVP game when he goes nuts in a game against a shit team and everybody goes McCaffrey,
which it's almost a lock.
He gets hurt now in one of the next two weeks.
That's the McCaffrey history,
right?
Like pulled hamstring,
um,
some sort of something,
but it feels like any,
I'd love to see the research
of any time he has a game
like the one today,
what happens like the next week.
Next couple of weeks.
If you want to keep watching
McCaffrey do well,
just don't mention MVP
or anything with him.
Just like, yeah,
decent game for McCaffrey.
Well, don't mention it at all
because he's not even acknowledged
on the list here.
He's not...
He is not even top eight.
Yeah, he's still 25-1 on FanDuel.
Like Trevor Lawrence is ahead of him.
My Hurts, 12-1.
It's up to 8-1.
Pretty good.
Pretty good.
Josh Allen, plus 352, a 5-1,
and then Mahomes, 5.
Interesting.
So the Josh Allen,
that was my favorite offensive player of the year, 30-1. Yeah. But you can't my favorite offensive player of the year
30 to 1
yeah
but you can't win
the offensive player of the year
and MVP
right
that's illegal
I think they
they banned that
but they could give it
to a quarterback
it's not
it's not automatically
a receiver
a wide receiver
or a running back
so yeah
alright we're gonna take a break
and we're going to get some lines.
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All right, we're going to do a little guess the lines.
I have not beaten Sal this year.
It's 2-0-2.
Sal's team
completely annihilated my
real football team.
Have we played each other in fantasy yet in either of our leagues?
I think you beat me twice.
See, this is how little you care. I think you beat me
in both leagues. I don't look at who I'm playing. I just look at the results guy., this is how little you care. I think you beat me in both leagues.
I don't look at who I'm playing.
I just look at the results guy.
I just worry about my own team.
What are the buy teams this week?
We have four buys.
You're not going to miss, well, the Browns, the Chargers,
the Seahawks, and the Bucs.
Browns, Chargers.
Not going to miss the Browns.
I do feel like the Browns might have punted that game a little bit today because they knew they had the bye week coming up.
Maybe Deshaun plays.
If it's like week 17, they need to make the playoffs.
But they're like, you know what?
Then we get an extra week off.
Right.
But they come back in two weeks.
You think the Chargers try to punt it?
I feel like the Chargers try to punt it every day.
Well, ironically, without punting.
But they are a little mess.
Do you think the Chargers can fool Staley into
thinking they're playing this week? Like, how long before
he realized? Exactly.
All right, Brandon, so we'll see you there at the stadium
at 9 o'clock. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right, Thursday night.
I'm so glad I'm traveling, and I'm going to
miss this completely on Thursday night.
It's in Washington.
And they're playing the Bears of Chicago.
Is Al doing this game?
I mean, is he scheduled to do this game?
I think Al might come up with a fake.
Like he has appendicitis or.
Right, right, right.
I don't know.
Maybe a COVID.
Some sort of excuse not to go.
Why would he want to go to this?
I mean, he's made a shitload of money.
He's in his early 80s.
He could be in the golf course playing with Doc Rivers.
He's going to go do Sam Howell versus Justin Fields with Herbstreet.
I miss you.
I'll do this game for you, buddy.
You just stay home.
You should have been there when Zach Wilson completed three straight passes.
It was... I wanted to use your miracle line there, You should have been there when Zach Wilson completed three straight passes.
I wanted to use your miracle line there, but I don't know if it was appropriate.
I have a... Man, this game's almost in the John Oaks zone.
Teams that should never be favored by seven points or more.
I have it right underneath.
I have Washington favored by six over Chicago on Thursday night.
We both get it.
We both got that.
I swear it on my kids.
Minus six it is.
It was five and a half and moved to six.
Don't say the word teaser.
It better not be coming out before the next game.
Nobody is allowed to tease this game.
Okay.
Nobody.
Not one person.
Don't even watch with one eye.
Yeah.
We have a London game this week. Nobody. Not one person. Don't even watch with one eye. Yeah. We have a London game this week.
Yeah.
The Jaguars,
the Kings of London,
they're back
after their
couldn't have been less exciting
win over Atlanta today,
which Wise Guys was going head to head
and I guarantee Wise Guys
was more entertaining.
I had the two TVs going.
So much more fun to see.
That's very nice. That's very nice. I had the two TVs going. So much more fun to see how it's very nice.
Jags playing the Bills.
Yeah, I have the Bills by seven and a half.
I said four and a half.
It's only five and a half.
Yeah, Vegas.
Big let that could be big letdown, right?
I mean, Jags have the advantage here.
Having spent the they're going to stay the week.
And the Bills are very excited
to have beat up on the Dolphins.
Why would they get up for this game?
I'm telling you now,
I like the Jags.
I like them.
I don't even like them,
but I like them.
What happened to the Jags offense this year?
Bizarre to watch.
Like, you traded Ridley
in one of our leagues.
I know.
You just, like, traded him to Lewis.
That's found as
Lewis. Hold on.
I got Devontae Williams who
could be out for maybe the year.
It was a good trade.
Son of a bitch.
Damn you, Lewis.
Everyone was talking about the Jags and the Lions
as these amazing offenses.
The Lions look like they actually might have a pretty amazing offense.
The Jags, no.
I have...
Oh, yeah.
So you won that one.
Sunday marquee.
So there isn't really a marquee game.
By default, I did Eagles at the Rams because I think we have...
Wow, was that the best? Really?
No. Yeah, there's one other
one that I kind of liked, but
just in terms of entertainment
value, because I
think we probably have
two more fun weeks with
the Rams before Stafford gets hurt.
He got hurt today and he
was just limping around like he was
snake-plissking at the end of Escape from New York
and somehow pulled off a game-winning drive.
But, you know,
they have like eight good players.
And at some point,
they're going to pass the point and no return. But they're
actually pretty fun. They're well-coached. McVay seems
really locked in.
Somehow they're 2-2. We were talking about
them as a possible worst record team
before the year.
And the Eagles,
I'm just really interested in
because I can't get a handle on them.
I think I've watched
every snap of an Eagles game this year
and I don't know what the fuck's going on.
I have all their skill guys
in one of our leagues.
So I'm like all in on their offense
and they look terrible.
They look terrible. Then all of a sudden, A.J. Brown for 40 yards on their offense and they look terrible. They look terrible.
Then all of a sudden,
A.J. Brown for 40 yards.
Terrible, terrible, terrible.
Oh, Devonta Smith for 26.
And there's just like no rhyme
or flow or anything to it.
But this game's in LA
and I had the Eagles favored
by three and a half.
There's a bet, by the way.
So there's two winless teams
and two undefeated teams left.
So you can bet on Fandle,
which will remain winless or which and two undefeated teams left. So you can bet on Fandle, which will remain winless
or which will remain undefeated longer.
So that's a good one to look at if you want to.
Oh, man, now I can't find it.
I would bet on the winless.
I'll get it.
Who do you think is going to stay winless longer, Bears or Panthers?
I think there's a real chance the Bears might not win for a while.
Bears are plus 130.
Panthers are minus 165.
On the defeated side, Eagles are minus 160.
Niners are plus 125.
No, that Eagles aren't happening.
Can I give you the Bears' schedule?
Yeah.
You know what?
They're going to get a win.
They have Minnesota and Vegas at home in week six and seven. Yeah, yeah. teams aren't as bad as you would hope for betting purposes. They're going to Carolina.
So one of the reasons we all like the NFC South for, you know,
maybe having higher wins than we,
because they were playing the AFC South,
the AFC South is better than the NFC South,
I think.
So like Carolina's own for their next two games are at Detroit at Miami.
Then they're home for Houston and Indianapolis.
They're probably not going to be favored for either of those games.
They're at Chicago, Dallas, at Tennessee, at Tampa, at New Orleans,
home Atlanta, home Green Bay, at Jacksonville, at Tampa.
They might not be favored again this season.
Oh, no.
Well, a lot of the 0-4 teams, that's what happens with 0-4 teams.
They don't make them favored.
But Chicago will be favored over Carolina on the Thursday night game at Chicago. That's what happens with 0-4 teams. They don't make them favorite. But Chicago will be favorite over Carolina
on the Thursday night game at Chicago.
That'll be like Chicago Thursday
the 9th, November 9th.
So yeah, I don't think Carolina
is favorite again. I would say
maybe they're a better bet for the
undefeated.
Alright, so for Eagles
Rams, I had the Eagles by 3.5
at the Rams.
I said 4 and a half.
It's five and a half right now.
Oh, that's too high.
Yeah, they'll play good defense, won't they, the Rams?
Yeah.
You know, the Rams, Donald's playing really well this year.
He's kind of all over the place again.
He's having one of those throwback years.
When did that get...
Did they get cut back this week, though?
Is it this week?
I thought they put him on the IR for the first four weeks.
Oh.
So, man, you put...
Is he going to disrupt their flow?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Puka's going to have 200 catches this season.
Yeah.
Somehow got wide open for the game winner.
All right.
I have one watchable game.
Chiefs at Minnesota.
Just not a great game,
but just the definition of watchable.
I would definitely watch and enjoy every ounce of this game.
And I have the Chiefs favored by five in Minnesota.
I said five.
Also, it's six.
So we both get that.
It's so funny because you say one watchable, and you're probably right.
But when the NFL made the schedule, that was supposed to be a good game, right?
Baltimore-Pittsburgh was supposed to be a good game.
We haven't even talked about.
New Orleans-New England was probably supposed to be good.
Yeah.
Jets-Denver was a Nate Hackett game with Rodgers.
That was supposed to be good.
You won't mention that for another 10 minutes.
It's weird how they fall apart, these matchups.
So, watchables.
I just said Chiefs-Vikings.
I have four fairly watchables.
Titans-Colts.
I'm not sure this is a loser-leaves-town match,
but I do think if the Colts...
If the Colts lose this game,
maybe this season starts going the other way on them a little bit.
I have the Titans favored. So last
week we talked a lot about
what do we call these minus one and a half games
and
came up with different names. And then there was
a lot of people on Twitter and got
some emails about it.
And a couple of people suggested the Tic Tac Zone.
I like that.
Because they used to run those Tic Tac.
Yeah.
Cause they,
so in the eighties,
they had these Tic Tac commercials and it was one and a half calories.
So I did a whole thing at the beginning of Million Dollar Picks. And I'm like the Tic Tac Zone,
I'm staying away,
no minus one half.
And then three minutes later,
I took the Colts minus one and a half over the Rams.
It was almost like a Saturday Night Live sketch.
I didn't even realize I was doing it as I was doing it
because I really like the Rams and the line move.
People say the Reno Zone,
because we call it the Vegas Zone.
Reno Zone was kind of fun.
I didn't mind that one.
Tic Tac's perfect.
It's right on.
Tic Tac Zone is great.
So are you saying this is one and a half? Yeah, I have Titans minus one and a half over the Colts in. Tic Tac's perfect. It's right on. Tic Tac Zone is great. So are you saying this is one and a half?
Yeah, I have Titans minus one and a half over the Colts in the Tic Tac Zone.
You're exactly right.
That's exactly right.
You Tic Tac'd it up.
One and a half.
Amazing stuff.
That's a tough one.
Tough one.
So would you put Raven Steelers in the watchables?
Because if you say yes, then you haven't actually watched
no I
you want at least two of the quarterbacks
to be watchable
you want both right
right
so you don't get that here
so I have
Ravens by three and a half in Pittsburgh
oh man you got that exact two
I said three
you think that goes up by three and a half in Pittsburgh. Oh, man. You got that exact two. I said three.
You think that goes up?
I think there's... Did you see that quote
Tomlin had after the game?
I don't know.
When they were like,
do you expect any changes
next week, Mike?
And he's like,
you better believe
we're going to have changes.
Ooh.
He's like, one of those.
I think it's going to be
an old school Mike Tomlin
I'm fucking pissed week.
Well, what more could he do if he's not calling plays
other than call plays?
I can't believe I'm saying this.
Honestly, they have both of lightning hit me
and just strike me dead.
Are we sure they're not better off with Trubisky?
No, of course we're not sure.
They had the worst QBR in the league last week.
Pickett's been awful.
And this is now a four-game sample size of him
really being terrible,
except for that 171-yard pass to George Pickens.
Pickens, yeah.
And I don't think Trubisky's good either,
but at least maybe you could, for one game against the Ravens,
roll them out and do some stuff, or maybe play both of them.
I don't know what the answer is.
I also think they struck out with Najee Harris, too.
I don't think I've ever seen that break a tackle.
I don't think I've ever seen it.
Well, somehow Ramondre Stevenson has turned into him, too.
So, Ravens minus three and a half.
You got that.
Yep.
Okay.
Four, four.
Falcons, Texans in Atlanta.
And I think before the year in mid-August, if you had shown me this game, I would have said, I bet that line's going to be like Falcons by seven.
Nope.
It's borderline tic-tac zone.
I'm not ready to go there yet.
I'm going to say Falcons by two and a half
over the Texans. Oh, come on.
I'm supposed to believe you guessed three in a row
exactly. I told
you I guessed right before we came
on because I'd forgotten to guess. Maybe I
should put no thought into this. You really did.
I spent four minutes on these guesses.
It was four minutes. It was 925.
You said, or 825. You're like, you ready to record?
I said, yeah.
He's like, I forgot to guess the lines, which is an integral part of guess the lines.
And then, so you took four minutes and we started at 830.
I got thrown off because I did a part one today.
So that was usually when I guess the lines.
I spent a half hour guessing the lines.
And meanwhile, now I spent four minutes and I'm much better at it.
Brandon Staley should try this.
Just spend four minutes coaching the game instead of 30.
Take a timeout.
I worry about this game because I'm going to love Houston.
I'm going to love them.
I'm going to take them on a teaser plus eight and a half,
and they're going to lose by 14.
Did you see Johnnie Smith had like 95 yards receiving today
and Kyle Pitts had 21 for the Falcons?
Is that what it was?
Yeah.
Yeah.
This Kyle Pitts thing isn't fun anymore.
Now it's like awkward.
Like the last couple years,
like free Kyle Pitts.
Now it's,
I don't know what it is now,
but he doesn't get the ball
and he doesn't really do anything.
And that might be a terrible pick.
Yeah.
We really might have to be reconciling.
Like they might have like
really, really blown that pick. That was a pretty good draft.
I was so mad at the Ritter thing.
We were doing it, as you know, live
on the Wise Guys, and
my big bet was
Jacksonville under 11.5 first half.
And I was fine. They had
10, and Atlanta had the ball with
three minutes left, and he throws that pick six.
That jerk. Yeah, but that's your fault.
You know you shouldn't bet the Lending Game.
I know, I know.
The Lending Game is a no bet.
It's just a no bet.
I know, but I'm thinking
when certain dealers sit down
across from the blackjack table
and are standing
and you're just like,
I'm out.
But are you more of a loser
if you wake up to watch it
and don't have a bet on it?
Aren't you more of a,
as fantasy would say,
I felt great today.
I didn't have any action on it.
I woke up at halftime
and I watched you guys and had it on a small TV. I had a great time. I didn't have any action on it. I woke up at halftime and I watched you guys
and had it on a small TV.
I had a great time.
All right.
I don't feel like I missed anything.
Last fairly watchable.
Dolphins-Giants.
I have this in here
because I like watching
the Dolphins offense
and I think this might be a loser
Leaves Town match for the Giants
because they're going to lose
to the Seahawks tomorrow night.
And if they don't win this game, then they're going to be 1-4,
and that's going to be a wrap for them, I think.
And they're probably, you know,
they don't have their left tackle for this game.
It doesn't look like they're going to have Saquon.
It's a kitchen, it could be a kitchen sink game for them, potentially,
if they don't have those guys next week.
But I have the Dolphins by nine.
I think they nudge it so that you can't tease it.
I had seven.
I wouldn't move off the seven until seeing what goes on tomorrow.
But it's nine and a half.
You're right there.
Wow, did I clinch already?
No, it's six to four.
Killing you.
Six to four, I'm killing you.
We got some.
Can't remember when you won.
Jesus.
I tied you twice, and then I got two on my own.
I got the Philly one, and I got Jacksonville on my own.
Poop Factor.
If Mac Jones versus Derek Carr isn't a Poop Factor matchup,
I don't know what is.
This is in New England.
What is with that New Orleans team?
I mean, people, I said on Wise Guys, I'm like,
the one thing about them is you can't trust them.
They can't score more than 20.
They can't score more than six at home.
Pathetic.
And they had Kamara back today too.
Yeah.
I had that game on for a good chunk today.
What happened?
Baker looks, I don't know.
He looks kind of like he did three years ago again.
I wonder, is it possible that he
was just hurt the last year and a half?
Well, yeah.
He's got a little swagger back to him again.
I mean, it's not like they had a million points
today, but I just like the way he was carrying
himself. I guess you didn't
have money on him Monday night against the Eagles
because that soured me to a million.
They're not supposed to beat the Eagles.
In that game today,
he was 25 for 32
for 246. He had three touchdowns.
But they showed him
on the sidelines a couple times. He was ordering
people around. It just felt like he had
his mojo back. I think
he lost his mojo. Maybe that happened to Mac Jones.
I have this game in the Tic-tac zones, Al.
So, I have Saints by minus one and a half.
You got it.
Oh, Saints one and a half.
Oh, I got you.
What is it?
I said Patriots two and a half.
It's Patriots one and a half.
Oh, that's...
Come on.
We shouldn't be favored over anybody.
Did the Saints...
The Saints did not impress you.
Come on.
We just lost Judon and... That was a garbage. We just lost Judon and Gonzalez.
We have no D-backs left.
We have one edge rusher now.
You know what your team does with this stuff.
Talk about a kitchen sink game, right?
This is really where you should hang it up.
I think this has...
No, I'm going the other way.
I think this has a chance to be one of the saddest Boston games we've had in a while.
Yeah.
It's home game.
The crowd is like on the edge with Mac.
Like two incompletions in the first quarter.
The boos are going to start.
It's going to be like Zach Wilson.
Everybody's already moving on to the Celtics season.
And this whole week in Boston, I know what it's going to be like.
I lived there forever.
It's going to be, should Belichick go?
Should they fire him?
Should he retire?
What are they going to do about Mac Jones?
It's going to be the most negative sports radio week possible,
newspaper week, and it should because they fucking look terrible.
So I think that's going to be a miserable game.
I think there's going to be empty seats.
I think it's going to be awful.
Really?
Wow.
Yeah.
It's going to be awful.
Speaking of awful, I had your awful Red
Sox over 78 and a half wins.
78 and a half.
They ended up 78 and 64.
I'm looking at their last, I don't know,
since August 27th.
Right.
6, 7, 8, 9, 10.
I think they went 12 and 22
or something. I needed
half a game.
What a piece of garbage.
I know. I'm sorry.
We should not be favored in that game.
The Saints will be favored in that game.
Lions, Panthers, Poopfecta.
I think the Panthers are an automatic Poopfecta
unless they're playing like the Chiefs.
I have the Lions favored by 10.5.
All right, I get this. I saids. I have the lions favored by 10 and a half. Uh,
all right.
I get this.
I said nine,
it's eight and a half.
That's too late.
Just like that.
I'm tied.
Let's go.
I have,
I have some lions points cause I didn't,
I,
I finished my podcast on Thursday before that game.
So I didn't get to talk about it.
You know how much I love Gronk.
Yeah. I mean,
he's
one of my top three favorite Patriots ever.
I fucking love Gronk.
I fight anyone who doesn't think
Gronk was the best tight end of all time.
Laporta's a little Gronk-ish.
He had two plays in that
Packers game where I was like, oh my god,
that looked like Gronk.
That guy's a monster.
And they took Gibbs 12th. They got him in the second
round, but that guy is like...
I mean, he catches balls
in traffic like Gronk did, but
when they get Jameson Williams back,
that offense might be pretty
good. I also really... I thought their pass rush
was another game where the pass rush
looked good. I'll fully admit, I think
I missed on them.
They have so much talent on both lines.
Next to the Niners, you have to think they're the lock
to clinch their division, right?
Yeah.
We've seen Minnesota.
We've seen Green Bay.
I think they'd have to have a bunch of injuries, yeah.
Yeah.
No, but they're great, and defensively, too.
I mean, Hutchinson's in on almost every play, right?
Brian Branch is solid.
They get sacks all over the place.
It's funny.
Every time they cut to Campbell, I have less confidence in them.
It's just that he's kind of the elephant in the room.
I know everybody loves him and whatever, but it's just, you know.
But yeah, if you look at them for the conferences,
they're 9-1 in the NFC right now.
And they are division-wise...
They're a big favorite.
I saw it earlier in the week.
Yeah, they're a big favorite.
I almost think with Goff, he had that 383 attempts without an interception.
Now he's thrown, I think, four in three games or something.
Or three in three games.
Yeah, he gets it out early.
He just kind of rubs one out.
But now he's like, I think he was worried about it.
He just rubs one out.
That's it.
He gets it out early.
That's what I was going to say.
That's exactly what I was going to say.
Rubs one out.
Wait, is that out?
Okay.
No, but I think he's like, fuck it.
I got that dumb streak out of my system.
And now I'm just going to play football.
Yeah.
Bengals are at the cards.
Good luck figuring out this line.
I put this in the Tic Tac Zone too.
I was Tic Tac friendly today.
I had Bengals minus one and a half.
No.
Don't tell me it's higher than that.
Come on.
It's four and it was.
Oh, my God.
I'm sorry.
It's four and a half.
I said four.
It was five and a half.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
That was a disgusting way the Cardinals didn't cover, right?
That was, who was it?
Ertz dropped the pass
and then the other guy
dropped just an easy touchdown pass.
Should have covered today.
They were in that game.
It was 21-16 and it felt like
it's like they're doing it again.
This is what, here we go.
And then somehow they didn't even cover. They play well.
I know someone in the organization is like,
listen, I'm telling you, this locker room is different.
They play for, they may take like a quarter off or something, but they really, they stand for something here.
And now that they announced that Kyler's not coming back and it's Dobbs' team, we might see, I don't know, maybe they'll settle down a little, play four quarters.
Who do you know in the organization?
Harry?
Yeah, it's Harry.
Yeah, Harry and Ken.
I'm trying to think of people you know in Arizona. They sell weed brownies outside the stadium. It counts as being in the organization? Harry? Yeah, it's Harry. Yeah, Harry and Ken. I'm trying to think of people you know in Arizona.
They sell weed brownies
outside the stadium.
That counts as being
in the organization.
Jets, Broncos.
I'm putting this above
the tic-tac zone.
I'm going to say Jets
two and a half at Denver.
Jets two and a half.
It's Denver three.
It's Denver three. I had four and a half. It's Denver three. It's Denver three.
I had four and a half.
Denver's favored by three points over the Jets?
Yeah.
And I thought it would be more.
Wow, Simmons, you really blew this.
No, that just tells me I'm going to be betting on the Jets.
Me and Zach Wilson, we're back, baby.
Oh, no.
The Broncos are terrible.
What are you talking about?
They're awful.
They have one of the worst defenses I've ever seen in my whole life.
If ever Zach Wilson can have a good game, it's next week.
Sure, but these are all interchangeable.
Yeah, but their defense is way better than any unit on the Broncos.
You don't think?
I guess so.
See, the Jets, if they lose this game, their season's over.
It's still Broncos by three?
Yeah.
Great. I like the Jets.
And you got Nate Hackett,
private eye, involved too.
Yeah, this is their revenge game.
They're going to do this for Nate.
He's going to dress like
Goldmember and Austin Powers.
You're going to bet the Bronmember and Austin Powers maybe that'll maybe that'll you're going to bet
you're going to bet the Broncos
this season once
yeah
I told you
I already bet them
when they went up
when they went up 7-0
I bet them today
I lost that
they stink
Sunday night
49ers
Cowboys
in San Francisco yeah I don't like this I have 49ers, Cowboys in San Francisco.
Yeah, I don't like this.
I have 49ers by four.
I said I had that too, and it should be four.
It's three and a half.
Hmm.
You lost, buddy.
You lost again.
It's 9-7 right now.
No, I didn't lose.
I'll show you.
It's 9-7.
I'm going to get
three here. Isn't that one left?
Three. This counts
as three? Monday night.
What are the nights?
This counts as three. I just made that as a rule.
Monday night is Vegas
home for the Packers.
Good luck.
This is another Tic Tac game and I don't
even know who should be favored. I'll go with
let's do Packers
minus one and a half at the Reds.
You got it exactly.
I usually could have gone the other way too.
Yeah. Jesus.
9-8, another win.
I take it, Jacoby.
3-0-2. Ridiculous.
Can't believe it. You haven't beat me
in 10 years. I know. Listen,
the tide's turning here with the Cowboys
and Patriots.
You got Giroux.
It's fine. Got you.
Listen, I would much rather have Giroux
in a 2-15 pass season.
Be great.
I was on a couple
should we just start tanking the season threads
today and I got pretty excited about it.
There's like three franchise quarterbacks.
If you get a top five pick this year, you get a really good quarterback.
There might be more.
There actually might be more.
Who are your favorites?
You watch college football every week.
But you're excited about Mac Jones, too.
Honestly, there's like four in the Pac-12, honestly.
Caleb Williams.
Pennix is great, too.
Bo Nix probably won't go as high
for Oregon.
Quinn Ewers for Texas is solid.
There's some good ones out there.
Drake May?
May's all right.
It's just about picking the right one.
When we got Mac Jones with the
15th pick, because
it seemed like he was going to go three and he fell to us.
And it was like,
this will be awesome.
But he's just,
I don't know when you're not good,
you're not good.
But I think that's the one thing,
like don't get excited when somebody falls anymore.
Right.
Like Kenny Pickett fell to the Steelers.
Um,
and maybe they shouldn't have even taken it.
He would have fallen even further.
But,
um, so I don't know.
Is there a chance with either of those guys
that the offensive lines have been bad for them?
Because it does seem,
I don't think that's true for Mac Jones as much
because his decision making, you saw it.
Like he should have had two more picks.
But Pickett,
it just doesn't seem like they can block for him at all.
And I do wonder like if they block better,
would that change anything?
I don't know.
Maybe.
I think it's the opposite problem,
right?
I think you guys block well,
but your receivers don't get separation and the Steelers guys seem to be
open,
but maybe pick it doesn't know how to scramble and buy himself another half a
second.
I would say we were probably,
we block.
Okay.
I would go.
Okay.
But the,
they had that wide shot in the first quarter
that the announcer was all over
where they were like,
Mac Jones has to throw the ball deep
and they do the wide shot.
And there were nine Cowboys.
The Cowboys are basically in a goal line defense.
Right.
And we had receivers spread out.
And who is our announcer?
Greg Olson?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Greg Olson.
And he's like, this is,
the Cowboys are basically daring Mac Jones to throw deep.
They don't think his receivers can get separation.
And I was watching going,
well,
they're right.
Cause we can't get separation.
This is how it's going to go.
And right.
So,
you know,
who knows?
What a glorious game.
So much fun.
Uh,
all right.
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All right, Sal, what do you got?
All right.
So you touched on the taunting thing.
This whole thing started with the taunting thing.
And what was A.J. Brown got called for taunting in the Eagles game
and that allowed them to kick off further back towards their end zone
and Washington came down and scored, sent it to overtime.
So A.J. Brown, what did he do?
He spun the ball, stared down the D-back, he beat, and then they throw the flag.
And so our friend Adam Carolla has a crazy rant on this, which I won't repeat, on why
it shouldn't and doesn't bother the person who's being taunted.
The person being taunted has seen enough in his life that this does not affect him.
You don't think he's
triggered and traumatized? No, right.
By the way, what they're taunted in
we see on hard knocks, they're taunted
harder in the
variety show they have to put on
as far as the hazing goes.
Then there's your point of it too. You grab
a guy by a face mask and fling him around the field
for a minute,
and it's the same penalty as spitting the ball and telling the guy he sucks.
Yeah, you dive at Mahomes' legs.
Yeah, right.
And he's out for the air, and it's like 15 yards.
It's dumb.
Yeah, it's football.
So anyway, I was like, and I had mixed emotions because I hate the Eagles,
but I also had them on a teaser that Joe House had.
But overall, I think this is ridiculous.
So I go, and I take an hour
and I go to my son's flag football game.
And he's nine
and it's a close game
and a kid on his team who
should not be scoring touchdowns
scores a touchdown. And he's very excited
and he spins the ball
and then chest bumps
my son after the play.
And the ref throws a flag. And I said, and I'm,
you know, I'm not a coach or anything. I'm like, whoa, what's the flag for? Is the flag for the
chest bump? And he's like, no, the flag is for spinning the ball. And I said, spinning the ball?
And he's like, hey, I don't have to explain myself to you. I was like, all right, well,
just give him a warning. I will handle this how I want to handle it. I'm like, all right, we'll just give him a warning. I will handle this how I want
to handle it. I'm like, all right. I don't want to get thrown out of this game. It's a close game.
And now he's talking to the kid. I'm like, this sucks for the kid. This is a big moment for him.
He's not going to score another touchdown for the next seven years. And let's get on with the game
also. And after talking to him for about 10 seconds, the ref picks up the
flag and waves is like, we're picking up the flag. I just warned them and it's not going to happen
again. I was like, wow. You affected the game. I affected the game. So I'm telling parents out
there, don't think that you're not heard out there. Be as vocal as you can. No, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no. That's bad advice. But I'm just saying like,
it's nice when the parents and the refs could have a cordial exchange and it results in the
right decision. Wow. What a story. Yeah. Did you, they win or lose? They won. They won like a close
game. It would have sucked if they had a kickoff deeper. I love nine year old, 10 year old, 11 year old flag football was the fucking
best.
Yeah.
It's so good.
Like they barely know what they're doing, but then there's a couple of kids
that know what they're doing and you know, you can get anything could be a
60 yard run.
I really miss it.
Um, my parent corner.
So my son had a, he had homecoming on Saturday night. The football game was Friday night. They had a really nice win, a nail-biter win. There's nothing, I think, more emotionally that puts you through the ringer more than a tight football game when your kid's out there. So he was playing, uh, he's playing both ways. We was playing free safety and we're down three and the other team's throwing and
you're just watching going, please don't be the goat. Please don't be the goat. Please don't like
read the wrong thing. So somehow they pull it out. So then he had homecoming next day and he's got
this girlfriend now and they're going to the event, but they, she came over with her mom to
take pictures cause they were dressed up.
And for the first time in my entire relationship with my son, like I had him where it's like,
I had to be on my best behavior. Like he was screwed. He was so nervous. I was going to make
fun of him or to, you know, do something to fuck with them. And I could just see it was the first,
the, when he's almost going to be 16 in
November. For 16 years, he's tortured me and my wife. And we're always like, oh my. And he's just
like pushed the buttons and done everything. And this is the first time I was in the driver's seat.
But I want you to know, I handled it really nicely. I was super pleasant. I didn't embarrass
him. We took pictures and I didn't do one thing that would make him mad later. I didn't mess with
him. It was kind of
adorable, but I feel like
I was a good wingman.
Did he acknowledge you afterwards?
No, of course not. He was a
total dick test today.
You've been through this with
Archie. There's
something that swings where you're like,
I could really fuck with my son right now
and get him back for the
970 times he's embarrassed me
in public, in front of the family,
in front of my friends,
all the things he's done
over the years. I could just get revenge right now.
Let me tell you, the picture
thing for the prom, at least it was
with Archie, the prom and homecoming
and all that is held in very
high regard.
I think Archie didn't even
tell us about it one or two years and Melissa
was upset. She's like, how dare you not tell? I wanted
to be there for the pictures. But yeah, a weird
thing comes over the kid with the pictures,
with the prom and everything. You're right.
It's great.
And especially like he's, it was the
first time she'd been in the house.
So it was all these ways
to mess with him.
So I was really proud of myself.
What I should have done
is invited nephew Kyle over.
Yeah, right.
And Kyle could have done something
to fuck with him.
Yeah, urinate in the hallway
or something.
Yeah.
Yeah, next time.
But yeah, it was fun.
Anyway.
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Before we go, Drew Holiday trade, you have the Celtics
as the favorite?
That five is ridiculous
now, right? It's pretty good.
Feeling good.
Better than the Bucs?
Better than the Bucs.
I think it's those two and then
there's a little bit of a drop off now
depending on
if Miami's
kind of unproven guys
can step up.
But in the East
it's
feels like that's what
Russo and I talked about.
It feels like we're lined up now
for a real nine month battle
with those teams.
And then Miami
is the wild card.
Unless
there's a Cleveland piece
maybe if
Mobley goes up a level
but
he'd have to really jump.
He'd have to become a pretty dominant two-way player.
He still might be a little away.
And then the West is a mess.
Yeah, it's all over the place.
There's like 11 good teams in the West.
If Drew Holiday starts dating Taylor Swift,
will we have a podcast where it's me, you, Nathan, and Rosillo?
That's my dream, if we
can get that together.
We do need
one of the... It does seem like that's part
of the recipe now, is somebody on your team
has to have a famous
relationship or something like that.
We have Tatum's kid as kind of a
cult hero in Boston.
Everybody loves Deuce. Deuce is now like
six feet tall.
He's four years old.
The Taylor Swift thing,
did people just lose their fucking minds
when Joe DiMaggio started dating Marilyn Monroe?
Or was it just like,
oh, that's good.
Yeah, it makes sense.
Baseball player, actress,
because this is,
I'm trying to think if there's any comparison
to anything like we've seen before.
I think that was way bigger
because baseball was basically
all four team sports combined for terms
of attention. And Marilyn Monroe
was the biggest female celebrity
in the world. So social media were big.
The most famous Yankee. Okay.
I mean, that would have been it. That would have been a wrap.
Okay. That makes me feel
better about this. I'm going to see.
If you had to say how many weeks
are they going to be together, what would you say?
Because her movie comes out on October 13th.
She's certainly got enough publicity out of this to push the movie.
And she's got some buffers every week, right?
Now it's like Wolverine was there with her.
I mean, I want it to come out that she's dating Kelsey's mother.
I mean, that would be front page news, right?
Well, I was thinking, what if she moves on to the World Series
or the American
League Championship or National League Championship game?
Dips into those
waters for a couple weeks and then
goes right to the NBA for some courtside.
Yeah.
She starts dating somebody on the opening
night game. She's kind of bounced around
and then maybe a UFC fighter
for UFC 296. She could be of bounced around. Then maybe a UFC fighter for UFC 296.
She could be in that section.
Maybe boxing.
I don't know. She could have been at the Ryder Cup.
What is she doing next to Ronald Acuna's uncle?
Are we to read into this?
How does she know Ronald Acuna? I thought he was married.
He loves her music.
Who do you have for the World Series, by the way?
I just think the National League,
I think it's asking too much of the Braves.
If you look at the last couple of years,
the National League team has screwed it, right?
So Braves, Mets, and I'm going Dodgers.
I have a ticket holding Dodgers 8-1.
And the way the Astros won this division,
I just think they're coming back.
It's boring, but I'm going to go Dodgers-Astros.
But phenomenal comeback
by them to take that West
and a bye, essentially.
I have no opinion
whatsoever because I've watched barely any baseball
this year. But I will be rooting for Mookie Betts.
Those freaking Red Sox.
87.5. Are you kidding me? I know. That's terrible.
Alright. Cuz, we can
watch you on
Cousin Sal's winning weekend on Fridays on
Fandle TV. See you with Tate tomorrow night on
Through the Ringer. Then we got
Ringer Wise guys on Sundays, and you
got the Against All Odds pod. Against All Odds Wednesday
and Thursday. And by the way, we did a nice thing
for the people. You should feel
good. You tweeted out a beautiful same game
parlay with C.D. Lamb, the score touchdown.
The wing went under 16 and a half points
and Dallas minus one and a half. You never had to worry about it. You nailed it. Yeah, Jack, our Fandle guy. Lamb, the score touchdown. The wing went under 16 and a half points. And Dallas minus one and a half.
You never had to worry about it.
You nailed it.
Yeah, Jack, our fan guy.
Yeah, go ahead.
Well, he was like, you guys got to split legs.
And I was like, Sal and I disagree in this game.
And we should just go with Sal because I might be irrational with the Pats.
Right.
And it turned out you nailed it.
You were right.
We could go with you the rest of the year.
No, that was good.
That was a good one.
All right, Sal. Good job on you. Good job on you nailed it. You were right. We could go with you the rest of the year. No, that was good. That was a good one. All right, Sal.
Good job on you.
Good job on you, buddy.
All right, that's it for the podcast.
Don't forget, we did put up a part one if you missed it.
Broke down the Drew Holiday trade
and have a new Rewatchables coming on Monday night,
Toy Soldiers.
So you're not going to see me again until Thursday.
I will not have a podcast on Tuesday.
I will be back on Thursday
with a brand new BS podcast
but new rewatchable is coming Monday night
and you can check out TheRinger.com
and listen to all of our podcasts as well.
I will see you on Thursday. I don't have.
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