The Bill Simmons Podcast - Philly Ruins the Chiefs and Mahomes Craps the Bed With Cousin Sal
Episode Date: February 10, 2025The Ringer's Bill Simmons is joined by Cousin Sal to discuss the Eagles trouncing the Chiefs 40-22 in Super Bowl LIX, the Fox broadcast, gambling blunders, legacy watch, stories from New Orleans, NFL ...futures, Parent Corner, and more! Host: Bill Simmons Guest: Cousin Sal Producer: Kyle Crichton The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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I went to Super Bowl 59 in New Orleans,
cousin Sal watched it from home in LA.
It was a disappointing game,
but it had a lot of subplots.
And we're gonna talk about all of them next.
First, our friends from Pearl Jam. All right, we're recording about 20 minutes after Super Bowl 59.
A true dud.
Cousin Sal is here.
I was shellacked.
My bets were shellacked.
Million dollar picks were shellacked.
I can't wait to talk about something
that happened at the end of the game.
Mahomes was terrible.
Talk slow, Bill.
I don't want it to end.
The season ends after this hour.
So talk very slowly.
Let's savor the conversation.
I'm gonna talk slow.
As slow as that Eagles
when they had the interception touchdown on the offsides,
when the guy just should have basically run back and forth
on the one yard line, like you would do in Madden,
and make one of the Chiefs have to run 70 yards
to tackle him.
He could have run off like a minute of the clock.
You're right, he could have killed the last seven minutes,
but didn't matter.
So let's go positive,
because there's so many Chiefs angles, but let's go positive.
The Eagles who had an awesome season, who had three losses that if like three plays
went there from the three losses, they were like an undefeated level team.
Nobody kicked their ass.
And then the last two games of the season, they kicked Washington's ass.
They kicked the chiefs ass. how good was this team for you?
I think they were excellent and they peaked at the right time.
I don't want to take a damn thing away from them.
I mean, I'm a cowboy, Cowboys fan.
So this is a nightmare.
I mean, just being a Cowboys fan is a nightmare.
That part.
But I, did you ever, when did you put them in your top three?
Cause I don't think it's in the last two weeks, maybe the three weeks.
It's just weird.
Like we should remember this.
Like the best team may not even be on our radar until week like 21, but
kudos to them.
They deserved it.
Both sides of both dominant.
Good for them.
Well, we always felt like Baltimore and Philly were the best on paper teams,
but we didn't know what that meant.
And then when you think like Baltimore, who's got to be just absolutely kicking themselves
so hard where it's like, oh man, we probably could have done what Philly did to the Chiefs
and we just weren't able to get to the game.
But you know, we knew the defense was there.
I remember doing the million dollar picks scenario on Thursday and it was like, there
was two games.
I felt like this could be, it could be the, be like that awesome Pat Seattle game back
and forth Chiefs win in the end, or it could end up Pat Seattle game back and forth, Chiefs win in the end.
Or it could end up being like that Bucks Chiefs game,
the 31 to nine game, when they couldn't block anybody,
when they were off the whole game.
And we talked on a bunch of different pods about,
if you like the Eagles, just take them minus nine and a half,
take them minus 19 and a half,
just take them in some sort of blowout situation,
because if it was a close game, the chief's history was there going to win.
You were on Ringer Sunday pregame talking about all the same stats.
Everyone else was 17 and 0 in the one score games for Mahomes 17 and 3 in the
playoffs, the recipe to beat him was to basically beat the shit out of them and
blow them out, which is easier said than done.
The Eagles did it.
It was great.
I think Mahomes actually may have been smart
He purposely got blown out so that he could still say he's 117 straight one-score game. She's streaks alive
It was a yes, you're right
I mean this was the this was the recipe and like these, you know
They they drafted all these SEC guys, right the the defensive linemen, all these Georgia guys,
and it's like, ah, maybe the first year or two,
they weren't great.
A couple of more, J. Owen Carter, you could tell,
was gonna be great, but it's almost like they had to go
to college a second time in the pros to get great
for two or three years.
And now they're spectacular.
I mean, that had to remind you in a bad way of,
I mean, it's great because you can brag on Brady now
and the Patriots' dynasty.
Oh, I'm not gonna do that.
I'm gonna be way classier than that.
I'm sure you don't have a segment for that.
But on the other hand,
this is how the Giants beat the Patriots.
This is how the Giants beat Jim Kelly and the Bills, right?
This is how Tampa beat the Chiefs a couple of years ago.
So I mean, that's six sacks with no blitzes.
Like it's insane.
You're, you're, you're toast if that's the case.
It was the worst fair.
If you're a Chiefs fan, cause you were already nervous about your line.
You already felt like you were sneaking by game after game.
You have a left guard playing left tackle, which we saw Jeff Saturday on Friday
night and we were asking him about it.
Um, just like how hard is that to go from guard to tackle?
And he was basically saying,
well, when you're a guard, you're a guard for a reason.
Your arms are too short.
You're not tall enough.
You're not quite strong enough.
Your footwork's not quite good enough.
That's how you end up being a guard instead of a tackle.
And it's like, when you're playing a guard as a tackle,
it's usually a little bit of a dangerous sign.
He meant to say it's as hard as going from NFL analyst to head coach.
But so if you're the chiefs are going into the game and you're going, well,
we've gotten pretty lucky at some of these close games. Everyone's taking us.
And we do have some holes that the right team could maybe get,
but the recipe of this game wasn't what I thought, even though it was the blowout part.
Mahomes was awful. Hertz was really good.
But Hertz didn't just outplay Mahomes. Like he badly, badly outclassed Mahomes, which I thought was pretty nuts.
Sorry, my computer's doing some weird stuff. I'm in a hotel room.
But yeah, hurt's out. You don't have to go into the detail.
Oh, weird stuff.
I see what you're saying.
Well, I was up my hands up on the YouTube thing.
The hotel, I got nervous.
Yeah, so hurt's out plays my homes
and everybody was saying all week,
ah, the Eagles have a better team.
But you know, QB and coach late game stuff,
I gotta take the Chiefs.
And then the QB coach thing,
they didn't get either of their own.
No, they certainly didn't.
And now there's a lot of love and probably deservedly so
for Sirianni, right?
He only does make the playoffs,
only goes to championship games and won the Superbowl
and lost one.
But yeah, I mean, I don't know what to say.
Who looked like he was gonna be fired in September.
Looked like he was gonna make it to Halloween.
It's really, really weird what goes on.
And Mahomes, like, I don't want to blame him fully
because he's been great.
And that offensive line just got manhandled.
But early on, he didn't help himself out trying to wedge,
you know, get those passes into Kelsey,
who couldn't bend over to catch them.
There were bad throws anyway.
And then those interceptions were just abysmal.
So we saw about three of the worst jobs.
And Hertz was great.
Like even Hertz had that on the first drive.
He had a perfect throw down the sideline to AJ Brown
that got called back for a pretty shaky pass interference.
And then everybody had the same reaction.
Here we go.
Yeah, yeah.
I have all that written down.
And that is the one good thing about this.
Like it didn't come down to that.
And I was like, okay, they called the PI on Brown,
but the Eagles got it back on that dumb call,
that even worse call on Goddard.
So thank God we're not talking about the refs.
We're not leading with them.
I don't even know why I'm talking about them now,
but that's the one good thing about a blowout like this.
But I wasn't sure that Hertz was going to get like MVP
until the second half, until he started running.
He ran for like two first downs.
He was really good.
We thought like Cooper Dejean could maybe sneak in,
but yeah, they had to give it to him by the end.
Yeah, he was, I thought, I mean,
he only had five incompletions.
He was 11 for 72 running.
He had some pretty back breaking runs at the perfect times.
He had some really nice throws.
I didn't feel like, other than that pick,
which it was a pick,
but it also wasn't like the worst thing in the world.
The guy got tackled at the two.
It was a nice play and they went three and out.
I mean, they could not get a first down early on.
Yeah.
But you think that Barkley was 25 for 57.
The Chiefs were saying, you're not beating us with Barkley.
That didn't matter because, you know,
Hertz was getting these plays and then Mahomes was just awful.
I mean, so I'm looking big picture for the, uh, for the Eagle side of this.
Incredible drafting for a couple of years in a row, which is the key to everything.
And this was as, you know, obviously it was so focused on that 20 year
Pats run and it always ebbed and flowed with the drafts.
They always had Brady and Belichick and it always came down to could they get two or
three good drafts in a row?
And if they didn't, that's when the team started to fall apart.
The Eagles had the opposite.
They just nailed drafts.
They had some luck like Jaylen Carter for us to nine because he had a pretty terrible
car accident or car crash incident with one of his teammates and he falls seven spots
lower than he should have.
Even our guy Coop, I mean, he fell to 39.
He was the third best defensive back in the draft.
The Pats passed on him, traded back, passed on him again.
And it's just over and over again.
They're nailing these dudes.
And then Barkley was one of the best signings of the decade.
Yeah, it really has been just a master class
for the last two, two and a half years.
It's killing you.
I can see the pain in your eyes.
I know, I hate it.
It's really been a master class.
Fuck this shit.
What could be worse for a Cowboys fan?
I don't wanna make it about me,
but that now, you know, Jaden Daniels.
That's what we do in this pod.
We make it about us.
What do you mean?
Could be around for a decade in the division.
Oh, and the Eagles are great
after losing the same last six
inexplicably last year and my team has gone to shit.
But yeah, I mean, I can't say enough about this Eagles team.
I mean, really just, I don't know.
But then again, if you look at,
if you saw 25 for 57 for Barkley,
how much more would we have put on the Chiefs?
I know.
It's, so you think think like even with this,
even with the playoffs for the Eagles, right?
First round, they played Green Bay.
Solid game.
22-10.
Shut Green Bay down.
Offense wasn't great.
Some Hurts questions remained.
The Rams game.
They're up comfortably the whole game.
Then at the end, defense gets tired
and it felt like the Rams were going to steal the
game and there were some signs and it's like, Kurtz couldn't put them away.
And I was like, huh, what's that?
But then those last two games, the Washington and the Casey games are about as good.
And we've been on the other side of this where we've written teams over the years.
Like the 2000 Ravens was one of my favorite, That Bucks team with Brady, that was another one.
This was another one of those teams that just got better
over the four rounds, had this defense,
just felt like they peaked at the perfect time,
unlike the Chiefs.
We did the opposite of peaking.
Because all those games you mentioned,
the Eagles won the turnover battle, right?
And the Chiefs pretty much won the turnover battle
except against Buffalo.
But you always thought, all right, it's not going to be the case that the chiefs are going to
get crushed in turnovers, right? And they, it was three to one is a crushing and you know, 37-23
for time of possession is even worse. I mean, we, you know, the homes ends up with decent numbers,
but you can't say enough. We're saving that for next segment. Couple things with the Eagles that we should just remember from a
playoff manifesto standpoint.
Casey was negotiating for that three Pete.
That story came out during the week.
They were negotiating with Pat Riley about the three Pete and how to pay.
That's going in the manifesto.
I'm putting it in next year in the
playoff manifesto.
If one team is negotiating
for what's going to happen after
they win the title, that's
immediately a fuck you.
I wish I can't believe I didn't
like factor that into anything.
Come on.
You put that right in the chalkboard.
This team's already like negotiating
after they think they're going to
win. Like you are we going to.
I just I don't know.
That seemed like not nothing.
You don't think?
Did Pat Riley bet the Eagles?
I mean, that would have been a nice hedge because he lost a lot of money on T-shirts
and everything else now for this three.
Pat Riley had the $5 million under Carly and Jimmy Butler's first game with the
Warriors and a, yeah, I guess it is.
I guess they wore a bunch of red, red flags, but there's a revenge thing too, right?
Cause they lost to the chiefs a couple of years ago.
So that was in there.
But the lesson for me, and this was the single worst game to talk about
ever since we've been doing this, because everybody, it did almost the analysis didn't matter
because it all came down to, well, the Eagles are better really everywhere.
But you know, you can't go against
the Chiefs. Like that was literally including me and including you. It was like that. So now I feel
like we're back. Now we can analyze football games correctly again. And now we can actually have
takes because the Chiefs have kind of ruined it. Like the fucking Luka trade took over the Super
Bowl discourse all week. Cause it was like, it wasn't even fun to talk about this Eagles game.
Well, now AD is out a month.
And so now it looks like Dallas didn't get a steal.
Like everybody was clamoring that they really won that.
And now though, no, yeah, you're right.
Yes, you're right.
We can go back to, I just don't think that, I don't know.
Well, yeah, I know we spend like hours talking about, should this be one?
Should this be one and a half?
Why?
Oh, is the number going to flip gonna flip it never matters and you're right
We we don't have to go because I felt like
Anybody I was just at a Super Bowl party who didn't know a thing about football can come in not watching and be like
Oh, it's just tough to pick against the Chiefs. I'm like shit. That's what I've been saying with Simmons for the last two weeks
That's what everyone was saying. I was right. Should we just live in New Orleans?
It's Friday. That was everybody's analysis was well, you can't go against the Chiefs.
Nothing else to add.
The Chiefs are good.
They won the coach quarterback comment and they win close game.
So don't, you know, it's a long off season.
I'll feel okay betting the Chiefs.
I didn't want to lose this way though, where my home doesn't show up at all and the line
gets...
There were like no signs that the line was going to get overpowered.
Was it like this? I didn't think that was the case. I don't feel.
Why didn't this happen to the Rams? You know, even Washington, like last week, Daniels moved the ball
really well against the Eagles. And when you look back at the mistakes that they made, it was nothing
that had to do with him. He was moving around. He was felt like he was in control of the game. And
then his supporting cast kind of screwed the game up
So, you know, but on the other hand they had two weeks to prepare. They obviously came in thinking if we can get a lead
We can you know, we're gonna be able to dominate this game and that's what I did I was in the I watched the game. I was in the fandel suite our friends look at you
yeah, it was great it was actually really fun getting some of the insights of
friends. Look at you. Yeah, it was great. It was actually really fun getting some of the insights of,
you know, where people had too much money, not enough money, some of the props like that. Everybody, the Barkley, Barkley was under on everything. He didn't score a touchdown. Like,
so all those hit the Kelsey stuff was way under. My homes was under for a while. But the big thing
they were saying was the line never moved. And even though everybody that we saw all weekend in New Orleans was like KC, KC,
KC, KC, the betting was pretty even.
And a lot of the sharp money was on Philly.
So the line stayed the same, which, you know, is usually kind of a red flag.
So the public all thinks the chiefs are going to win, but yet the line's not moving.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And like the adjusted lines won, right?
If they did take your advice and take the minus nine and a half and stuff like that.
And the over, which wasn't looking good for a while ended up coming in, in a big way.
So, uh, but I mean, there are some, you know, there are some crazy things.
I don't know, like Hertz first touchdown that you see, you said they got beat on that, right?
And they must talk about that.
So Dotson pitches a long touchdown.
Yeah.
Dotson was 85 to one.
Incredible. To, uh, to be the first touchdown.
They're celebrating. It seemed like a touchdown watching from the stands unquestionably a touchdown.
And then they review it.
It's like, whoop, not a touchdown.
All of a sudden we're tush pushing.
They had Hertz anytime touchdown.
Hertz first touchdown was one of the most popular bets.
So that was a loss.
I had both of those.
And I had under one and a half for shortest touchdowns.
So it was either gonna come from Hurt's or Barclay
or Kareem Hunt or something like that.
So that was about the only thing I won.
But 85 to one, I know they give money back sometimes
if a guy gets hurt on the first snap.
You should get a little money back
if you had dots in it, 85 to one.
Right, it's just some pity money?
8 inch line.
Yeah.
Well, I had one of the, because Gantwick's legal here in Louisiana, so I did a bunch
of Super Bowl bets.
You're not going to believe it, but I didn't do great.
But one of the ones I had was Hurt's first touchdown with Chiefs to win the game, and
it was 15 to 1.
So Hurt scored, and then you go in the app and you can be like, you can get out
of this right now.
And I'm like, do I get out of this?
I don't really like the way the chief's like, it's the chiefs, it's my homes.
It's like to the bitter end.
Even when it was what?
17 nothing after the pick six, you're going, ah, this is his 28 three.
He's going to come back.
And he just never did.
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We're going to give you three more warnings. Bill, please log off.
Let's take a break and we'll come back.
We'll talk about my homes.
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All right. So with Mahomes, it was feeling at some point if you were pro Mahomes, pro this is the guy
on par with Brady, all that stuff was like, could this be his 28 to three game?
Including when, when, when coupe got the pick six, it's like, Oh, we're now following the
recipe for the 28 three Falcons game.
Then it gets to, what was it?
24 nothing.
It was the same thing.
It's like, Oh, okay.
This, this, this would be it. Maybe we're joking in this, 24-0. It was the same thing. It's like, oh, okay. This'll be it.
Maybe we're joking in the suite,
like, oh, maybe he's doing this intentionally.
Maybe he wanted to add this degree of difficulty
comeback thing to the whole Mahomes goat legacy
that he ends up with a three-peat with a huge comeback.
That was not what happened, so.
It was not even close to what happened.
And I gotta say, he was terrible.
He was terrible from the first drive.
He had that second down pass to Kelsey.
They were moving the ball, they got a first down.
They seemed like they had a little momentum.
Kelsey over the middle and throws it way behind him.
And I swear he must have had 10 terrible passes.
I'm not counting what happened
in the fourth quarter, the game was over.
And the game mattered.
He was the worst he's ever played by far.
We were like, I don't know if you could bet on something
like this, but like, do we hear Tuesday that he had rotator
cuff tear or something because
Like a torn labrum.
Yeah. Or like a hip flexor.
Yeah. I don't know.
Cause there was a couple of places where he was scrambling
around and it looked like he seems physically a hundred
percent.
Right. And then that's where it usually hurts you.
But yeah, he could not get it.
I didn't know what I was looking at.
I was like, is it raining in there?
Is it pouring?
Like it looked like a bad weather game too.
I just hadn't seen him like that.
I don't know, I don't count that Tampa Bay game.
Like when they lost in the Super Bowl to Tampa Bay,
you were like, oh well.
That game was ugly for a couple of quarters.
And yeah, they had the Andy Reid thing that happened a couple of days before with his family. And it's really his fault. And that game was ugly for a couple quarters and yeah, they had the Andy Reid thing
that happened a couple days before with his family
and it's just the whole vibe of that game was off.
This was different.
He was specifically missing guys.
Like there was that one when he rolled out
and he had Hopkins on the third down
and it felt like he could have scrambled for 20 yards
or just thrown Hopkins a good pass
and he did neither and Hopkins dropped it.
But it was like over and over again, he just sucked.
It was bizarre.
It was like people were incredulous in the stadium.
Everyone was like, what's going on?
Is he sick?
What's happening?
Your boy was giddy too.
I mean, I don't think he,
I think he went like three minutes without talking Brady.
He was just like giggling in the corner.
Good for him.
Well, that's the thing.
If it had been on my homes,
his version of 28 to three with Brady announcing,
that would have been great.
Instead, this is probably the best moment of Brady's career since he retired.
Because it was a lot of Mahomes, Mahomes, Mahomes, is he the GOAT?
I don't know.
If he gets his three P Brady's never done that.
And now he goes down with two Super Bowl blowout losses.
Brady's had zero.
Brady lost three times in the Super Bowl.
All one-score games where he had the ball
on the last drive with a chance to steal the game.
Never got blown out.
And then he beat Mahomes twice.
So you know in the playoffs.
And it's like, can we fucking settle down now
for five years with the Mahomes-Gote stuff, please?
Thank you.
I think you did by yourself at least three years. Five might be a lot.
Yes. But because I thought like if he wins four next year, you could make a good case for it.
But you're not going to like this. I still think his best Super Bowl in terms of
grading this legacy versus Mahomes is the one where he beat Mahomes.
Now that wasn't with the Patriots, I'm sorry to say,
but I feel like that's his greatest claim.
That's his greatest claim to him being better than Mahomes
is him crushing Mahomes.
Of course it is.
His best Super Bowls were the Seahawks one and the Falcons.
Those were the ones.
The comeback, but then that Seahawks game,
being down 10, those two drives that he had against Seattle,
that was outrageous.
Well, I'm saying in terms of comparing them to Mahomes,
I think you have to do the head-to-head.
But I know he's beat him in the championship.
But the three-peat was the only thing Mahomes
could have done that surpassed anything Brady did.
So now, you know, Mahomes is about to hit his 30s.
He's three and two in the Super Bowl.
And the thing about the Super Bowl
is it's really hard to actually win the Super Bowl. Brady made it 10 times, he's three and two in the Super Bowl. And the thing about the Super Bowl is it's really hard to actually win the Super Bowl.
Brady made it 10 times, he went seven and three.
He easily could have been three and seven.
He easily could have been 10 and O, you know?
But Mahomes three and two, so we'll see.
Cause Kelsey, I think, you know, if they'd won
the Super Bowl, would Kelsey have retired?
I would have bet yes.
Yeah, I don't know what happens with that now.
Chris Jones getting older.
Um, when we talked about hitting the drafts, they hit that Mcduffie
Carlathus draft looks like they hit the worthy pick, but the
offensive line is like really rough.
There's other teams coming.
The chargers are going to be better.
We saw Tyreek Hill on Friday.
I was trying to get him to come to the paths.
Wasn't happening, but it, it, there was, there was a team. Are you going to tell him what he said afterwards?
What did he say after?
I said, come to the Cowboys.
And then he did the eyes thing.
Like, I'm looking at you.
I said, you may have to be all running back too.
He's like, that's all right.
I'm ready.
So here we go.
That is good news for Dallas.
Well, and then somebody that was with them was like,
watch out for the Chargers.
And walked off.
I was like, what do you mean?
Can we bet this?
I will say, though, but everyone's going,
oh, the division, the coaches are so great in the division,
you know, for the, in the AFC West lookout.
There's still four games better than any of those teams.
There's still a month better than the Chargers, right?
So, you know, they're not going away anytime soon.
I don't think the Chiefs, as far as Brady goes,
if you were in a coma for a year and you came out of it and you said, uh, how was Brady? And I would have told you, Oh my God, he had his
best year ever. He, he, he took a gigantic leap ahead of Patrick Mahomes. You're like,
what do you mean by doing nothing? So yeah, he was a C plus in the booth, but this was his best year
ever. He somehow bought a majority stake of the, but a majority of Vegas for 10 million bucks.
He owns a team.
He's the goat again.
The goat almost got taken over, now he's back.
Right.
I thank you for calling him a C plus in the booth, by the way.
Is that generous?
Yeah.
I'd be a good teacher.
So tell me about the broadcast and Brady and how he was talking about my homes.
Was there anything interesting? He was just laughing the whole time. I thought it was embarrassing. It was talking about my homes. And was there anything interesting?
Cause I was saying-
He was just laughing the whole time.
I thought it was embarrassing.
It was like pointing and laughing.
They cut away to him.
Now I thought he was just fine.
I, you know, I'm not one to watch a lot,
but there are not, I have like 44 bets.
I'm not kidding.
I have like 44 bets and I'm constantly checking
on them throughout, but he was fine.
And he was like, oh, sometimes this happens.
And it seemed like he blamed the line and praised the Eagles,
which he should have defensively more than getting on the Holmes' case.
Their defense was, their D backs were great.
They broke up that fourth and three that that guy broke on him perfectly.
Yeah.
I was, I was thinking about it from a Pat's perspective,
cause just trying to figure out,
cause they almost have this blank slate
for how to put together a team now, right?
Because they have the coach and the QB,
they have basically nothing else except Christian Gonzalez
and Barmorf comes back,
and it's like, how would you build this team?
And it really feels like you just spend everything
on the lines.
You can figure out everything else after.
So there's that Mason Graham, the Michigan defensive tackle.
And it's like, let's just get that guy. Maybe he can be Jalen Carter and just push the line like that. But
it would seem like the sweet spot would just be having these four guys that can just push the
pocket and then you don't have to blitz. You don't have to do any of this gimmick shit.
And then you can kind of patch together everything else would be one way to do it.
How about the other part of the line? The one that Saquon ran for over 2000 yards on.
Right. Couldn't get it going with the Giants. Like it. How about the other part of the line? The one at Saquon ran for over 2,000 yards. Right.
Couldn't get it going with the Giants.
Like it just, it makes a world of difference
if you could figure it out.
You know, you don't turn the ball over as much
when you own both lines.
You win time of possession by 13 minutes,
14 minutes in the Super Bowl.
It's a pretty good thing.
That's why like when the Dolphins,
they spend half of their salary cap
on two receivers.
It's like, what do you, how's this going to play out?
Uh, I thought that chiefs fan base, I gotta be honest.
And I'm sure I say this knowing this will immediately be thrown back at my face
with, cause the Patriot fans did the same thing.
Yeah.
Just needed a, maybe a 16 ounce cup of settled down juice.
Oh, really?
There was the chess were out, Chess were out this weekend.
There was a lot of confidence, rightly so,
because they had the best guy in the league,
and they win every one of these games down the stretch.
And it was a fan base that maybe needed their version
of what happened to the Pats in 07
and what happened to the Pats and the Nick Foles,
Doug Peterson, Super Bowl, and some other great teams.
Whereas sometimes you just need to kick the balls.
Why didn't you tell John Hatt, you should have told Ham to calm down. Say something,. Where sometimes you just need to kick the balls.
Why didn't you tell John Hattie?
You should have told Ham to calm down.
Ham was introducing the starters before the game.
That's what I'm saying.
It's like, relax, they'll never do that again.
They can't have him back.
Wasn't Ham a Rams fan for like 40 years?
He says, he hasn't figured out
that St. Louis, Kansas City thing.
No, he was with the Rams when they moved.
He jumped to the Chiefs.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Has anyone, have we litigated that?
Do we need to have him on the podcast
and really dive into what's going on here?
I'm sure, you know, come on, you'll get lost in his eyes
and he'll be like, all right, that's good.
Good enough excuse for me.
He's so handsome.
Can we talk about, have you ever seen anything
like how bad Mahomes was in this game
from a great player standpoint?
I was rocking my brain because there was so much dead time during this game. I was like taking notes.
I wasn't expecting to take this many notes, but like I was thinking like Magic in the 1984 NBA
finals. Sorry, I had to work the NBA in. But Magic like just sucked in the finals. Like he
cost him a couple of games. He wasn't quite Magic yet though. They'd won the 80 and 82 titles,
but he wasn't like he's the best player in the league.
Peyton Manning had that New Orleans Super Bowl where he threw the pick six and he was kind of the,
he was either the best player in the league or one of the best players.
Yeah.
But I can't really remember somebody who was like, this guy, everyone agrees is the
best player in the league and he's in his prime. Sucking this badly.
It was almost like, it was like a Greg Norman golf major type of type of
performance, like he, the amount of throws that he missed and how frazzled he seemed.
And then they're doing the stats at halftime and this is the, one of the 10
worst EPAs of the last 50, all that shit.
It's like, Oh my God, this is the best guy in the league.
This doesn't happen ever. Well, I'm trying to think what we're, I mean, all that shit. It's like, oh my God, this is the best guy in the league. This doesn't happen ever.
Well, I'm trying to think what we're, I mean, you know,
you can go like Clayton Kershaw and everything,
but I'm not sure about the one game.
I mean, Cam Newton won MVP.
I was thinking Kobe's six by 24,
the first three quarters of that Celtic game
when it just seemed like he couldn't hit anything.
They won that though, right?
They won, he came back.
You wanna tell everybody they won?
Yeah. They came back. You want to tell everybody they want? Yeah.
They did win.
I'm trying. Cam Newton won MVP that year. Denver won 2410.
We never thought Cam Newton was the best guy.
He was MVP.
I know, but nobody was like, Cam Newton is the road ghost or Cam Newton.
It was like, he had a great season.
No, I get it. I get it.
Yeah. I don't know what to say.
Montana against the Giants one year when they knocked them out, but
he got knocked out.
If you count it, I don't know.
I think you're, I think this is the best case.
I mean, in the seventies, everyone threw for 125 yards and either one or loss.
So Elway had some bad ones right before he won.
Um, he did, but it always felt like his teams were so overmatched.
This was one where I felt like the plays were there.
I know their pass rush was good, but he was also missing everything he did.
He was missing open guys.
And it was one of those things that almost became like the Luka trade where you start texting people in the second quarter.
Like, is he hurt?
What's going on with Mahomes?
Is there something wrong?
Is he sick?
What does he have?
I've never seen anything like this.
Yeah, I'm looking at all of them now.
I really don't think.
Carolina scored 10.
Wouldn't you say Manning against Seattle?
Is that what you're saying?
No, Peyton Manning against New Orleans
when he threw the pick six to lose the game.
But it wasn't like he was like horrific the entire game.
Brady had some bad playoff losses. Like we had a bad loss to the entire game. Right. You know? Brady had some bad playoff losses.
Like we had a bad loss to the Ravens.
There was a weird Denver Broncos game
after the third Super Bowl they won when he wasn't great.
But never anything like this where it was just
in the combination. Yeah, if you go playoff,
maybe pick some off.
But Super Bowls, like the big game,
if it's down to one game, this is tough.
I mean, Jim Kelly was great and had some bad ones,
but this was a class by itself.
I'm shocked at this.
I really am.
I'm like, you know, I know we were due for a bad one, right?
We had, we had three three-point games in a row.
Is that right?
Yeah.
And then the Tampa, Kansas city was the last bad one, um, four years ago, but
it just makes me sadder because the season's ending and it ends on a, when
it ends on a dud like that, it's harder to take.
Well, I'm sure there's going to be a bunch of pieces the next two days, trying
to put this performance in perspective historically, at least from a football
standpoint, they'll have stats.
So in the, in the, what he did in the last two drives will kind of fuck it up a
little bit because it'll make it seem like it was better than it is.
So you almost have to do like the first three quarters guys, what is the equivalent in other
sports of somebody who's fallen behind?
Tom Brady?
You're going to compare him to Tom Brady?
You start calling compare him to Marsha Brady.
How about that?
How about we start there?
Hands flying.
I don't want to hear about Patrick Bones again.
I don't want to hear about it again.
That's it. We're done. How about we start there? Hands flying. I don't want to hear about Patrick Bones again.
I don't want to hear about it again.
That's it. We're done with the goat argument. That's it.
I'm done. Get it out. It's time to go.
Okay, Stephen A. We're done. We're done. I'm sorry.
I wasn't even doing Stephen A. I was doing generic network ex-athlete guy.
I could pick 20 of them.
No, I'm sure Steve Bidao would not be kind to my homes.
I have some silver linings for the Chiefs now.
Hey, real quick, what was it when I left New Orleans,
when I left on Saturday,
it felt like 70, 30 Eagles fans.
What was it in the building?
I had half and half.
Really?
A lot of Chiefs fans, yeah, a lot.
Oh, it didn't sound that way.
Yeah, the Eagles fans were just louder.
Silver linings for the Chiefs.
I think Kelsey comes back now.
I don't think he retires on that game.
One more year for him.
Another dumb narrative that we got killed on.
What did he have, two for 24?
I think he might have had a third catch in there.
Another silver lining.
We could talk about them normally again.
Yeah.
They're not Michael Myers anymore.
You can't do it anymore.
We can't do the,
I know there's 17 reasons to pick this other team,
but it's the Chiefs.
Like that's done.
We can now talk about football games rationally
and normally without these fucking weird fear of this team.
Pat Riley doesn't make any money. I think that's great. Terrible 2025 Pat Riley.
Brady wasn't that popular as an announcer? I think that was a win for the Chiefs.
Wait, what? Why? I don't know. I'm just throwing that in there. These are silver linings.
They didn't trade Luka Donchich in the last 10 days.
They didn't trade my homes for Anthony Davis at a number one and then have
Davis get in his first game right after they gave an interview about how smart
they were because they want guys who were in shape.
But then mentioned Shaq is one of the guys,
the great guys historically who stayed in shape. Shaq,
like famously never in shape ever
at any point in his career.
That was hilarious.
I have no more silver linings
unless you can think of any.
I don't think there are any for the Chiefs.
Yeah.
Not too many except that maybe they could
stun us again, right?
So it wasn't even this year,
it was last year when they did it all on the road
that we were like, oh crap, oh they're back
and they're a beast
and they're better than ever.
I don't know if you wanna look at next year's lines yet
or if we save that to the end or.
No, I wanna do that next segment.
I know.
So if I'm the chiefs, if I'm the PR,
if I'm the Louis K of the chiefs.
Ooh.
And in my spare time when I'm not just focused on
my three clients that I care about and I spend barely any time with the other ones.
Wait, if you're the Lewis, that means the chiefs are going to get canceled in like three weeks.
No, the Lewis K of the chiefs.
So this is so Jimmy would be the chiefs of this scenario, because that'd be a client
he would actually care about and like some of the others.
I'm spinning it.
We were never that good the whole time.
It was amazing we got there.
Like look at our record.
You saw us in the Super Bowl.
When we played an awesome team, we couldn't hold that.
We had no offensive line.
We had no explosive playmakers.
Our coaching staff is old.
Like it's a fucking miracle we made the Super Bowl.
We should be getting kudos for that.
That would be my spin.
That's what a publicist is supposed to say.
My client actually sucks.
No, it's just be like, no,
maybe you should spin it the other way.
We were pretty good.
We're proud of the season we had.
Just making the Super Bowl was an achievement.
Yeah.
We made five Super Bowls.
Your Patriots won like the first three Super Bowls by a field goal, right?
Yeah.
I think so.
So that's what we were thinking.
But then they came back.
Because Tom Brady showed up for Super Bowls.
I know.
Unlike Patrick Mahomes who hasn't shown up for two.
We are fucking back!
Drake May, Mike Brayboy, Tom Brady's the goat.
We're back!
Fuck you, Jeeves!
Don't you dare call Mahomes the goat!
He's not the goat!
Take him back!
Get off Goat Island!
We are going to take a break.
We're going to take a break.
We're going to take a break. We're going to take a break. We're going to take a break. We're going to take a break. We're going to take a break. Fuck you, Jeeves! Don't you dare call Mahomes the goat! He is not the goat!
Take him back!
Get out, Goat Island!
We are gonna take a break,
and then I wanna talk about some of the gambling stuff.
["Wild Wings of the West"]
All right, so some gambling stuff from this game.
We mentioned the Hertz Anytime TD first touchdown score.
We had a, Coop had a pick six.
Yeah.
What were the odds on the pick six?
Do we know?
That could be like 30 to one, right?
40 to one?
Well, it was 15 for, I saw 15 that there was a pick six
and then it was like 30 or 35 for the Eagles.
I think I saw that.
So yeah, that was amazing.
Although we saw a few in the playoffs.
Was that the greatest moment ever
for a white defensive back?
Or do we have to go to the 60s?
We were talking about that.
Do we have to go to like Paul Krause?
Paul Krause of the Minnesota Vikings?
Did he do anything?
Yeah, Cowboys had a guy named Charlie Waters
who did well.
Oh, Charlie Waters.
Yeah, I think that's it though.
I think that really is.
This is the kind of, don't worry about comparing Mahomes to their bad performances ever.
We would need the white defensive back rankings.
The white guys in Black History Month, that's very sad.
Did Jason Seahorne ever do this?
No.
He was in that good team, right?
That couple on the Ravens.
Yeah, that was a 4.49 left in the second quarter
and it's 17-0 and the Chiefs go two terrible runs, Mahomes sacked and now they're giving
the ball back to the Eagles again.
Mahomes was five for 10 for 24 yards, a pick six and three sacks.
And this is 25 minutes into the game. It was just
shocking. Yeah. So at that point. We were looking, how many over the years, how many times when the
Chiefs are losing, we text each other the Chiefs live line, right? We needed them to get a first
down in the end of the second quarter. Like we all got to see some life out of them before we even consider it. Thank God they didn't give us that opportunity.
Well, so five for 10 for 24 yards.
Then we get to halftime and it's not much better.
He misses Hopkins on that third and 11.
So he ended 21 for 32 for two 57 with three touchdowns.
He hit every over and I'm sitting there.
So this is my bad beat gambling story.
So a million dollar picks.
My biggest bet was Chiefs minus one and a half.
That was for 500 fake K.
And then the second bet was a parley.
Oh, it's fake.
Yeah.
Well, it's fake.
I didn't even know.
Okay.
Second bet was this 250 K parley.
Eagles to eight and a half.
Mahomes 200 plus passing yards.
And I'm rooting, and there's a third leg that I'll get to.
So the 200 plus passing yards seem inconceivable.
And then they start having these garbage time drives.
And when they scored the second touchdown
and he had like 187, 193, they're inside the 15 yard line.
I'm going nuts in the suite.
Like, oh, he's gonna get it. He's gonna get it. He gets it
The Eagles go three and out and the Chiefs and now I'm hustling back to the pod
The Chiefs get the all-time garbage time touchdown to Worthy and it gets to 62 the third leg of my parlay was under
60 and a half and the final score was 40 and 22. They scored two touchdowns in the last four minutes
to fucking beat. So I lost that one too. I think I had a losing year for million dollar picks because
of that last touchdown. So the Chiefs just sticking it to me every way. I love that these, you're with
these vandal executives, they're watching through their fingers because the Hertz touchdown, they're
losing tens of millions of dollars. I'm losing 500,000 fake dollars.
Get me out of here.
Well, you know, House took a shot
because Christian, one of the Fando execs who loves House,
and we're talking about the bets
on the ringer Sunday pregame.
And he's like, well, House,
he did his usual House move of he took the Eagles
in a tease with the over, like classic house,
like kind of getting in, but not totally being in,
like halfway, I was like, yep, that's house.
Very careful tease.
Great house story.
I guess we'll talk about Vegas later, right?
We're gonna do all that in a minute.
New Orleans, yeah.
New Orleans.
It seemed like Vegas, because we were in a casino.
Yeah, and that, I have a house,
should I tell this house story now that like just that.
Oh, do it now.
Let's hear it.
Tipifies it.
House, we're in the casino.
He goes to the ATM because we had a bad run at blackjack and I'm proud of you
for making us get out like I've, I've known you to sit at the same blackjack
table, win or lose to like five in the morning, whether they're vacuuming.
The vibe wasn't there.
This is Friday night.
Oh my God.
The three of us. win or lose till like five in the morning when they're vacuuming. The vibe wasn't there. This is Friday night. Oh my God.
The three of us, I think I was like three out of 15
and house lost like almost every hand.
I don't know how he did it.
Yeah.
He was, I was like, you're letting us leave.
This is great.
Like a lot of times I would go to the ATM.
I'm like, how many times do I have to go to the ATM?
Am I going to lose this friendship
if I don't sit and lose more money with them?
But anyway, so we leave the black the blackjack table house goes to the ATM
He's got like a new card or something. It doesn't let him take money out. So he has to cash advance
So he's not getting the $12 VIG that you would normally get on $30 to take out
$344 he had to take out and he had to wait on the long cashier line to get that money out now
He had to show his slip.
And then he doesn't even gamble with us.
He didn't gamble.
So we ended up at a craps table
with the fantasy football guys.
He got vigged out.
He said no.
After he lost to the ATM, he said no.
Like that's responsible gambling.
I can't even beat the ATM.
I'm out.
I'm not playing. But for some reason reason paid them 40 extra dollars, right? Not to gamble
Yeah, so he ended up at a craps table with
Craig and Danny Danny from the ringer fantasy football show who were having a great time playing cross and
JJ is there JJ. Dad describes he hosts of New York, New York who's had a couple and
JJ Jadziszewski, host of New York, New York, who's had a couple and is dialed up to 10.
And he was locked in, he's yelling at dealers.
He's hitting points going, pay it, pay it!
Screaming, screaming.
And then Raheem comes in,
also from the Ringer Sunday pregame,
and he's not really doing anything.
And then all of a sudden he just bets on the
don't come line for the shooter across table
because he thinks the guy looks like a bad bet.
And we're all on the come line,
which is like on the poker table
or the craps table for people listening.
Y'all want the craps table to be a line,
betting on the shooter, rooting for them.
Like there's this weird dynamic that develops.
Raheem's just shorting it basically.
Guy hits and JJ just gets mad at Raheem's just shorting it basically.
Guy hits and JJ just gets mad at Raheem,
which he should have.
He's like, don't take sides against the family Raheem.
I can't see.
This is indefensible.
Indefensible Raheem.
He's yelling at it.
And I was like, it is, it's indefensible.
So Raheem ends up not doing it.
So anyway, Raheem became the don't come guy.
But we were there, house is there, van is behind us.
We're all pooling bets together because it's a $50 craps table, which is absurd.
And we ended up, we were there till almost four in the morning.
We were there.
We were down to, we started like 600, right?
We were down to 40 bucks in the tent, right?
Yeah, we just couldn't get by momentum.
Built it back up to 1400.
So that was nice for us. And that's real. That's not like million dollar, but that's real money. Yeah. We just couldn't get momentum built it back up to 1400. So that was nice for us.
And that's really like million dollar. That's real money. Yeah. Craig had a nice little run.
Yeah. And then at the end of the night, I had like, I just got on a heater and I just wasn't
throwing a seven for like 30 minutes. Yeah. It was great. But what happens is when you,
when you start doing one like that and more and more people come over the table and people start
betting and everyone's betting points and
It's like three minutes between throws. I know that and he's like, I'm hot
Get me the dice back and this guy's like give me a hard ten no hard six
Give me two on this and it's and by the time it's so I
I blame the guy at the other side of the table. You know what? I don't I think it's I think it's intentional
I think they slow play it because we were pretty conservative.
We were playing the pass line and then we were playing behind it.
And we're playing the cup.
But if you get bored and they take forever, that's when you're like, shit,
if I have to wait three minutes between each role, I'm going to play the field.
I'm going to play a couple more numbers.
I think that's where they break out.
You were getting mad because there was a guy on the other end of the table
who was pumping his fist because you were hitting every number except ours, right?
Right.
This guy probably made 15 grand off of me.
You know, it's like, it's getting crazy.
Yeah.
See, motherfucker, you're icing me and making money for me at the same time.
Then we finally hit the number.
And then the best part was there's some bet that the fantasy guys were doing, which is
like you can bet 8, 9, 10, 11, 12.
And somebody has to hit all five of those numbers before they throw a seven.
And it's 30 to one odds. It seems inconceivable.
And I was throwing it for so long, only the 11 was left.
And then I finally hit the 11 and I've never seen those guys happier.
They were like, first of all, they were arm in arm.
You should post that picture.
I should post that picture on Instagram for like 40 minutes, whenever they weren't rolling,
they were like, come on, we could do this.
They were locked arms together.
I love those freaking guys.
When the defensive line is watching somebody
about to attempt a game winning field goal,
they had their arms around each other,
but literally for an hour.
Yeah, I love it.
It was a Danny Kelly, right?
Yeah.
They had a bet, I don't know what the bet was, but between the three of them, whoever lost, I think it was like was a Danny Kelly, right? Yeah. When they, they had a bet. I don't know what the bet was,
but between the three of them,
whoever lost, I think it was like a season long bet.
Whoever lost had to sit in the middle seat coming
home and they were on my flight and couldn't be entertained,
couldn't listen to music, couldn't watch TV,
couldn't read a book the whole time.
If they fell asleep, they would just wake them up.
Danny was in the middle.
They let him watch the map.
They let him watch the map on the Delta flight. I was like, these guys are good. This is it. That's hilarious. Yeah, it was great.
It was a good hang. Everybody was in rare form, including Rahim, who was trying to short the table
for some reason. I'm going to talk to HR about Rahim. I might've been an HR violation. Yeah,
it might've been a little bit. JJ was the MVP though, and he blew out my right ear drum,
and I was covered in spit by the end of the night, but I loved it. It was great.
When he showed up, you turned around to greet him, and you were about to roll.
And so you took the dice over the table a little bit.
I know, I know. Because I got excited. I didn't know he was there.
That's a dice violation. I'm like, oh! And then I'm calling it like an announcer.
He's got one more dice violation, then he's out of here.
He's going to have to go back to Bourbon Street.
It's like a flagrant foul.
Yeah, exactly.
But then when you roll it and would kick off the table,
JJ would yell, same dice, same dice.
He'd yell at the dealer, and the dealer's like,
you're not even rolling, shut up.
He had the superstition about same dice.
I got to say, he really did get the energy going.
Screaming, pay it at the dealer.
You're not gonna believe it, but the dealers,
they don't love being screamed pay it.
Right, it's kind of a good job.
And you hit the A's pay it, pay it.
And a dollar for you, bro.
Do what you want with this, this is a dollar.
So that casino used to be called Harris,
and I guess technically still is, but now it's the Caesars.
But I've had, I think of the most fun
Galeby moments of my life.
For some reason, at least five or six of them have been.
It's just my favorite place to probably
play blackjack or craps.
The dealers are all nice, they're all from Harrah,
they seem like they are, and they're just like,
they move at a pace so you feel like
they're not just trying to rush you out.
It seems like they're rooting for you.
Like when you bet for them, they really appreciate it.
And I always really enjoyed it.
It's right in the middle of downtown.
I didn't even like just walk to where you're going.
I thought it would be packed, by the way.
I was there the night before.
We could have sat any blackjack table on Thursday night.
Well, they jacked the prices up.
Yeah, but $50 is, you know, in Vegas, that's any Saturday night, right? jacked table on Thursday night. Well, they jacked the prices up.
Yeah, but $50 is, you know, in Vegas,
that's any Saturday night, right?
I guess. At a decent hotel.
But it seemed like everything was 50, 100.
So I think it was scaring off people a little bit.
Any other gambling stuff?
Jake Elliott was way over on all his total points.
I thought he had a shot at MVP for a minute.
I mean, he had four extra points and four field goals.
Wasn't it?
He actually had to kick seven field goals, but with all the false starts and everything.
Hertz MVP was what?
Plus 280?
Yeah, plus 280.
But Hertz most rushing yards was like six to one, I think.
Right?
Oh, did that hit?
Yeah, he had 72. Barclay had 57,
and then Mahomes had 25,
like that was the highest on the Chiefs.
So that triple crown bet that I stayed away from
because it seemed like just a trap,
it seemed like impossible to hit all three.
It ended up being Mahomes passing,
Xavier Worthy receiving.
And Hertz rushing.
And Hertz rushing.
I don't even know what that paid.
So I wonder what that must have been like 20 to one.
I have no idea.
What are the odds of that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, at least.
Worthy had probably like the six or seventh best thoughts,
triple crown bet.
That was bizarre.
I can't recommend it.
We both had Hertz touchdown, right?
I mean, I guess that's good that we did that.
I don't want to talk out of school,
but I wouldn't call the FanDuel guys elated
that the game went over.
No.
I wouldn't say there was high-fiving in the suite.
And the Mahomes yardage props going up,
I wouldn't say that was a high-five special either.
No way.
The Kelsey and Barkley stuff, they told me,
and I said this on Million Dollar Picks,
that the most one-sided bet of the week
from a prop standpoint was Barkley to score a touchdown.
Oh really?
It was like 99.9% of the bets were on it,
and the no TD was plus 150,
and it was like zero dollars on it,
or like seven dollars or something.
You know, the-
So, Barkley ended up not getting it.
It's his birthday on Sunday thing,
picked up steam somewhere around Friday.
And I was like, I don't think that matters.
I really don't.
I think if he scores three touchdowns,
I don't think we have to say
it's because he turned 28 today.
There's nothing to do with it.
I think that's fair.
Especially, it's not like it's a major birthday.
It's like, oh cool, I'm 28.
How do we feel about any other betting stuff that you wanted to hit? What was going on at the Super
Bowl party you went through? Yellow was plus 280. Tails for the coin toss. Tails for the coin toss.
Let's get rid of the anthem betting because it went over but they're grading it under I think
It went over, but they're grading it under, I think. Because he said, he repeated a line three times.
Like just for flair, just to show off.
He said the land of the free because he bet the over.
And the land of the free and the land of the free.
Whatever it was, he did it three times.
Why didn't that count?
That was his performance.
I don't know, you can't do that.
Well, you can't like sing the song and then add,
or you can't launch into American pie like halfway through the song
It's how long the performances it was two hours
Whatever you can't pay and then of course it was closed and they cut to the fighter jets and you never know when the word
Brave ends because it's loud
Was my homes listening to the anthem? I don't know. I don't think so.
Was he thrown off by the anthem?
Because there's no other excuse.
John Batiste held the ball, would hold the note longer than Mahomes could hold the ball.
Patrick Mahomes, get out of here. Just get out.
You gotta leave the nightclub. You're out! Oh shit.
Well, Mahomes hit all the overs.
He hit his touchdown over.
Did he hit?
How many rushes did he have?
Because that was another one.
Shit. So he didn't hit any of the rushing stuff.
I know.
We were counting on the kneel downs.
That's an underrated aspect of the game
that we didn't talk about.
Like we could kill Mahomes,
but they had 24 yards rushing outside of what he did.
You could get him a running back at some point.
Hunt three for nine, Pacheco three for seven.
That was like one of the reasons I loved all the Mahomes overs
when I was playing in the game out of my head was
I didn't think the Chiefs were gonna be able
to run the ball.
And it turned out they didn't think so either
because they started the game
and they basically threw the ball every down,
it seemed like, and they were trying to
keep the Eagles off base.
That's seven carries outside of my home.
Didn't work.
Did you have Matt Ariza punting for over 310 yards?
No, no I did not.
Was that even a bet?
Did you bet on the total number of pumpkin ears?
Yeah, I think they did.
I think they did.
That's a pretty good one.
Wait, how many did he have?
He had six punts.
Yeah, 311.
Six punts for 311.
Yeah, weird game, man.
Ellie, it's 50 yard field goal.
Oh, you had, people in the suite were congratulating me
on your behalf that you, the Devante Smith, that long pass, that was one of your favorite props.
20 and a half.
Yeah, I mean he had killed this defense,
Spagnola's defense.
I mean that's another thing,
Spagnola's gotta take a hit too,
but yeah, his last three games were average
like 95 yards against Casey.
It's tough though when your offense is such dog shit,
I think it has to start affecting the defense at some point.
Because the defense did get a couple stops,
and they got the interception when it seemed like
the Eagles might be going up 14-nothing,
they got the ball back, and then just over and over again,
they were just getting kicked in the nuts by the offense.
It's unusual.
Let's, we'll take one more break,
and then we'll talk about your week in New
Orleans plus, uh, plus some look ahead bets for next season.
Well, it's the saddest time of the season.
There's no football.
There's no guest Alliance for next week.
You are a guest Alliance champion to two legends fell this season me and guest Alliance. That's right
It was always like well Simmons when it gets to the big moments
He'll win and Sal's gonna lose again. You beat me and then then my homes he got kicked off Goat Island and
And the Chiefs are now mortal and now we can actually talk about them rationally again
And we could talk about the refereeing.
It was really getting me mad.
You saw me and Hench going at it.
Yeah, you got mad at Hench.
I know, but everybody's got to go crazy with the calls.
And it was like, he got Brown.
The A.J. Brown pass interference at the start of the game.
He hit the guy in the face mask three times.
Everyone's like, when the boot says,
oh man, I don't know if I call that there.
That doesn't mean it was a terrible call. Like, why do we have to make that leap from,
ah, that could have gone either way to, oh my God, that was the worst call.
Oh, it's fixed.
Calm the hell down everybody. Geez. But at least we don't have to worry about that for a minute,
I hope. I don't know. It's nice to not have to talk about the referees.
I don't know. It's nice to not have to talk about the referees.
So we have NFL next year.
I'm going on, going on Fandel right now.
Do you have the odds?
I do.
Okay.
I'm going to see if I can find.
Eagles and Chiefs favored.
Wow.
That never happens.
What, anything surprise you on those odds?
I'm seeing 650 plus 650 for Chiefs and Eagles Raven seven to one bills.
Eight to one lions nine.
Ooh.
I that lions nine to one and Niners 14 to one.
I'd like to, I'll, I'll book those bets from people.
Really?
They want, yeah.
I think those are, so we should talk about this with the chiefs too.
I don't think the Chiefs too.
I don't think the Chiefs have missed their long-term window,
but I wonder like how much rehab repair they have to do
with this nucleus they have.
Cause they have a lot of stuff to fix,
but they're also, they have money going out
in all these different directions.
Right.
You know, it's not like, oh, we need a left tackle.
Cool.
Fucking 12 teams need a left tackle.
You're not the only one.
You drafted a left tackle last year
at the end of the second round.
If you missed on that pick,
that's what gets into what we talked about earlier with.
If you start missing these drafts or missing picks,
it starts to have this cumulative effect.
So the stuff that they need,
it's not like you just go to the store and buy it.
Like everyone wants a left tackle.
But we talk about the, what do we call it?
The KCD, like it's a CD, like plus 650.
You keep pounding it, they'll win once
in the next six and a half years, right?
So that should be okay.
But I also think these other numbers are fair too.
Like the Ravens have to be licking their chops a little too.
The Bills at eight to one.
Your team, I got scared.
I thought my team and your team were the same.
Cowboys 55, you wanna guess the Patriots? Don't look. I just my team and your team were the same Cowboys 55 want to guess the Patriots don't look
I just looked but tell us anyway
150
Fourth from the bottom. Is that fair?
Ridiculous. I promise you we won't be the fourth worst team. I love this. I love it
We're gonna go 10 and 7 next year Wow. Yeah, we're going 10 and 7 next year
I don't know that for a fact. If we hit the draft. Just because Brady is better than Mahomes conclusively,
doesn't mean the 2026 Patriots are going to be good.
It's not just that Brady's better than Mahomes.
Mahomes has to leave Goat Island!
Get off!
Take a hike!
Get a suitcase and leave!
Take your wife with you!
Take your dad, take everybody, you're out!
You could take a ferry.
You can swim back.
You can jump on a raft.
I don't care.
Get off the island.
You're off code island.
You can take that out of Kelsey.
Take her too.
Look, just looking at these blindly,
Chargers 29 to one jumped out of me.
Yeah.
Commanders 23 to one have to be taken seriously because they laid a nice
foundation, have a good QB and a good coaching staff and have some stuff that
they could do in the off season.
And then, uh,
what about the Rams at 30?
And I know we don't love them, but they're selling off guys though.
Like they're trading Cooper cup.
Uh, he, how did he do?
He, he was, he wasn't key to their success.
I don't, they, they almost, they kind of played the Eagles better than anybody though.
Is Minnesota 33 to one nuts?
Hmm.
Like what if JJ McCarthy is good next year with the, they.
Right.
I was going to say, what if I told you Sam Donald sat in an aisle seat
and coached, uh, with me on the way back?
Does that affect your odds anymore?
Did that happen?
Really?
Yeah.
It's going to be, he's going to sign like a 50, well, maybe he couldn't find a flight.
It was a tough flight to book if you weren't.
You're trying to leave New Orleans on a Saturday.
Baltimore 7-1, I wish those ads were better.
Cause that's a team I would think too, like a, in the, they were in the 10 to
one, the 12 to one range, I'd be excited about it.
Green Bay, two in one will be a sexy pick.
Uh, I'm not doing it.
Houston 27 to one with some receivers coming back and a couple more
draft picks, maybe bad division.
I don't know.
I like the Rams and I like the Bills again.
The Bills also, we didn't talk about them.
How pissed must they be that they couldn't
beat this Chiefs thing, get to the Super Bowl?
Or that they couldn't do anything
against the offensive line like what the Eagles did.
You watched the offensive line this week.
And you could tell pretty quickly
because they were doing those designed rollout plays
that gave me PTSD to Brady against the Giants,
that first Super Bowl.
When he was under such siege,
he had to do the quick rollouts with extra blockers,
plant your feet, and then chuck it.
And they were running those in the first quarter.
And I thought, I was saying to Tommy,
who I went to the game with, I was like,
this is not good if they're running that kind of shit.
That means they think they can't block these guys at all.
And then we could watch Tommy Hearns.
The hit man Tommy Hearns was the thing.
But you could see it.
I don't know what I was picking up during the game,
whether the TV was, but you could just watch
like the four guys pushing the line
and all the other guys kind of coming back and the chiefs receivers weren't really good enough to get open.
You know, so my greatest advantage in sports, being able to rush a quarterback without blitzing.
And, and, and so my, my house was bad because he missed guys, but I could also, there were other plays where he just didn't have guys.
There was nobody to throw to.
You didn't want to throw interceptions.
Real quick, MVP, don't look.
Who do you think's favorite?
Now I just look.
Well, we would have said Lamar or Josh.
Yeah, Lamar plus 450, Alan 500.
It's Drake May.
My home's 700.
Oh, Drake May, 60 to one. He's not on there, whole 700. Drake, oh Drake May. 60 to one.
He's not on there, is he?
Yeah, he sure is.
He's right in there with Sam Darnold and Michael Pennex.
Sam Darnold on 14 games.
Wim Fajardo, Gino Smith.
By the way, Bryce Young is on there too.
I went to a party yesterday that Shaq was at
and Bryce Young and they were talking to each other
and it was amazing.
It was like Mr. Work in tattoo.
I was like fascinated.
He was a foot and a half smaller than Shaq.
It was amazing.
Is he smaller because he's smaller?
I mean, everyone's smaller than Shaq,
but he looked especially small.
Bryce Young's five eight and Shaq's like seven one.
It was just amazing to see them next to each other
and be like, which guy's the professional athlete right now?
Shaq is always at any party is just riveting.
He's the best.
Shaq, he's the best guy.
He's like the nicest guy.
He's the coolest guy to everybody.
He's like just really genuinely nice guy, but he's also gigantic.
He looks like Shaq.
You just see him moving through.
You can't not see him.
Everybody's looking at him.
He handles it great.
Like he's just a nice guy.
He's got to be the greatest on Bourbon street. You could sit on his shoulders. You don't have to deal. Everybody's looking at him. He handles it great. He's just a nice guy. He's gotta be the greatest on Bourbon Street.
You can sit on his shoulders.
You don't have to deal with the slop and everything.
He's a practical joker.
He'll slap guys in the ass with beads
and look the other way.
He's the best athlete to party with.
Barclay's the best celebrity I've ever seen in public
just with how he navigates all the people around him.
Because he's big.
He's obviously 6'6", so you notice him right away. But he just loves everybody. People all the people around him. Cause he's big, he's obviously six six,
so you notice him right away,
but he just loves every, people just gravitate to him.
Shaq's a little like that too.
So we have any other future ads?
I guess they don't have like who's getting traded,
whatever.
Give me some of the New Orleans highlights.
You were here doing a bunch of great ringer stuff,
including getting hit in the face with a Slim Jim. Yeah. That, um, yeah, Paige, hit me. I was doing a
prop challenge with a bunch of celebrities and sports personalities. And we put a video together
and you can catch it. It's all up on the ringer. And one of them, we had, we had Paige come over
and she's an influencer. I don't know if people don't, people know who she is. Right.
And we had a bunch of challenges. We let's, oh, you could hit this golf ball. I don't know if people don't, people know who she is, right? And we had a bunch of challenges.
We were like, oh, you could hit this golf ball.
I know she's into golf.
You could catch this roll of toilet paper.
We could do a slim gym slap fight.
And she's like, I want to do that.
And so we each hit each other with a slim gym and I hit her lightly as a gentleman.
And then she gets, stands up and smacks the crap out of me in the neck with a slim gym
and a welt on my neck for the next step.
I'm like interviewing Marshall Falk
with this giant welt on my neck.
And I'm like.
When did the welt go away?
Like in the next.
Like on the play, when you saw me,
like it was still, it was dark,
so you probably couldn't tell,
but it was staring at me at the craps table.
But yeah, so I was like, wow, she has,
this has to, it's got over a million,
like how does I make this the biggest thing I've ever done and my wife not find out about it
It's so anyway, that was a lot of fun. There's a lot of great stuff on
Don't go against the family don't have don't ever watch same wealthy
Can we do a fandel show where just people play crafts with JJ after he's had three drinks?
I feel like that would be an amazing show.
How does he gain steam at four in the morning? It's so crazy.
He's like when you turn the TV up, the volume up, and it's just going, and that's just the volume.
There was no sign at all of him being tired. I think he'd still be there if we didn't wanna leave.
The Fandal Ringer Party was great Friday night.
We had Megan Thee Stallion and Blink 182.
I guess they insist on touring together.
I don't know, I didn't know.
Yeah, I couldn't believe they played
all those songs together too.
We talked to some fun people.
We had, I'd never talked to Diana Rossini before.
She's a delight.
We talked to her for like a half hour.
And she's like seven of your cousins.
Yeah, she is.
It's like an honorary member of your family almost.
The good ones, yeah.
I thought she was great.
I thought that Tyreek Hill announcing
he's playing for the Cowboys was gonna be the highlight,
but she was up there too.
That was a fun one.
Yeah, we talked to some fun people.
I've been to a bunch of different Super Bowls.
I hadn't come in a while.
There was the one in LA that doesn't count.
That was the last Super Bowl that was in LA that I went to
was ironically Raven's Niners.
I just kind of thought I got it.
Is it really?
Yeah, I hadn't gone forever.
Liked watching the game.
I liked doing the pod with you after the game
and I just kind of never went.
Never wanted to go for the Pats
after the second Giants game
because it was just so emotionally.
It's so bad to be there when your team,
like I was feeling for the Chiefs fans.
When you're limping out of the stadium, it's the worst.
Half of the people are the happiest
and you're just like in fucking sports hell.
It's the worst.
I just-
So last time it was in New Orleans,
you remember I had to do a bit.
You had to do the bit, yeah.
For a grant.
Yeah, it was a Sal Huggs fans of the losing team.
And I wasn't quite sure who the losing team was because we had to leave and set up in
a good spot before the last drive.
It was Raven's, who was it?
Raven's 49ers.
It was Raven's Niners.
That was the blackout game.
That was Kaepernick.
Yeah, we were patching together.
First down and goal from the four and they don't score the go ahead touchdown.
The tech game was awesome.
And people were just zombies walking out of there.
Like a lot of people are like, get the fuck away from me.
I'm not hugging you, I don't know who you are.
Get the, yeah, so it's a big risk going down there
if your team's playing.
I mean, Chiefs fans must be demoralized tonight.
Well, the other, so I saw Pats Rams
was the first Super Bowl I ever went to,
which was like, honestly,
one of like the 25 best moments of my life,
probably that whole day, it was amazing.
And then the second game was the Blackout game.
And so when I had a chance to go to this one,
I was like, this is gonna be an amazing game.
It's a super dome.
This is just gonna be magical.
And everything was great except for the game. But New Orleans is, the funny thing about New Orleans is it gonna be magical. And everything was great except for the game.
But New Orleans is, the funny thing about New Orleans
is it just never changes.
Like you go to, and I mean that in a good way.
It just feels exactly like it did 23 years ago.
All the streets are the same.
All the, a lot of the hotels are the same.
They don't really, it's not one of those places
where there's like 17 crazy new things that are up.
They just really keep the soul of the place intact.
It's really a special place.
I love it.
And it was especially like, I don't want to bum everyone out, but you know, there was a national guard presence in the streets because of that asshole last month.
Yeah.
That attack.
Yeah.
So that like, that was a bummer.
But the spirit of the city
I mean, it's one of
Would you keep it if they said build three or four cities?
Rotating or do you just do New Orleans? Do you vet this one years? No to me? It's Miami
New Orleans
Vegas, that's it
And I think you could make a case for LA because of, but it's a little spread out.
I think if you're just looking for like-
I was watching the Rose Bowl highlight.
I mean, that's my favorite game of all time anyway,
52-17, Cowboys over Bills,
but it just looked beautiful, right?
With the sun setting and everything.
It's nice to have an outdoor option too.
Yeah, I think floor is good.
I would say New Orleans, Miami, and Vegas
for the way the city kind of blends in with the game.
When it gets, like they love to have it in like Glendale, but Glendale,
people are staying in Phoenix. They're staying in Scottsdale. It's all over the map.
It seems like they're getting out of the habit of putting it in cities just
because they built the stadium. Like when they were in that with Jackson.
Yeah, no Atlanta. We don't need Atlanta. We got New Orleans.
Yeah, I would go to New Orleans 10 times over Atlanta.
Well, the other thing with New Orleans 10 times over Atlanta.
Well, the other thing with New Orleans is
it's really hard to get hotel rooms here.
So the ticket demand, it's almost easier to get tickets
than it is a hotel room anywhere near where the game is.
So a lot of people-
Tickets were down lower than face value, right?
Yeah.
Tickets dropped and you could get it on the market today for face value or lower, but what
we couldn't get was a hotel room.
Cause there was none and it's really hard to get in and out obviously, but, uh,
that's why they dropped, right?
Because if you get the, if you not going to get into a hotel, then the tickets
drop, it's a fascinating market.
Did we, Superbowl in Dallas, did we do that?
Yeah, we did.
I went to that one.
That was kind of, I thought that was a pretty good one.
The weather was terrible, but it was, you know, that was okay. But yeah,
I would, wouldn't you say Vegas, New Orleans and Miami?
Those are the four. I would add LA back into it.
I really love watching that, those Rose Bowl games, but yeah, those,
if you have to go three, I think those are the three.
Cause San Diego's out cause they don't have a team.
Right. So they can't have a team. Right.
So they can't have it anymore.
Yeah, so they try Atlanta.
I'm just trying to think of the southern,
the hotter cities that we don't need to see in that anymore.
Well, one of my things, I really didn't want to,
this is a bad city for me.
And you've seen it in action.
Especially like the Super Bowl 12 years ago
and NBA All-Star and just bad.
There's a lot of bad choices here in New Orleans.
It's not a, and I'm not unproud of the decisions.
It's just like, you kind of lose it's, it's got food that you probably
shouldn't keep eating, but you can't help it.
It's got the best dessert.
It's got the casino.
It's got a bunch of other stuff.
It never closes down and, uh and you can really make some mistakes.
And I try to be on my good behavior.
I was so proud of myself.
Didn't have a drunk cigarette.
No cigarettes, I bet over one and a half cigarettes.
No, you lost.
That was a L, yeah.
I lost all my prop bets.
You lost on that and you lost on my home.
Beating, going at it!
And you can forget about going to Santa Clara next year
for the Super Bowl.
The 29th worst city to have a Super Bowl, by the way.
Oh, that's, so that's the other thing we were talking about
is like next year is Santa Clara, which is like,
we did the, we did the WrestleMania in Santa Clara.
It was a mess.
And that was WrestleMania.
Super Bowl is like a way bigger event.
It's really hard to move around.
That's spread out, yeah.
Yeah, New Orleans, great job.
As a great city, great food, love being here.
It's a one of a kind.
I said Wednesday, I was like,
I have to mix a blackened chicken salad into this,
into this rotation.
Just the lettuce?
I'm just gonna die with these roasted oysters
with parmesan.
This is the best thing I've ever had. Never got it, never got it. So I'm gonna kill die with these roasted oysters with parmesan. I'm this is the best thing I've ever had
Never got it. Never got it. So I'm kill over any day never happened. Yeah, they're frying just and they'll fry anything here. Yeah
But they just don't care anything's possible
Anything else you want here from the week?
That's it. I mean I have it like a parent corner kind of thing, but I don't know, is that another break? We can do it now? Yeah, no, do a parent corner, we're good.
Well, first of all, I went to a small party.
Oh, before that, what's the age where you stop
buying your kids anything at the airport
when you come home from a city or a game?
Or thinking about bringing them home a gift or anything?
Yes.
I'm gonna say probably age seven or eight.
Thank you, okay, good.
All right, I win that argument.
I'm gonna quote you as the gospel.
Why do I have to hear from everybody and bring a gift back? These kids are bigger than me.
People make you feel bad?
Who made you feel bad?
Of course. Yeah, the people in this house. The second thing is, I've been down on squares and
pools and stuff for Super Bowl, but when I see how excited the kids get and it's like their first
see how excited the kids get and it's like their first, you know, put,
dipping their toe into gambling.
I like the Superbowl squares pools at parties now.
I really do. And even though it's me collecting at the last second and drawing the numbers,
like while they're kicking off and everything, it's terrific.
I hate putting it together.
And then I see like kids like, no, why?
No, I have two, one, but Oh no, all the while, why they're going for two point
conversions, like eight year olds screaming at each other, why they're going for two point conversions.
Like eight year olds screaming at each other,
whether they should go for two points or one.
So I'm backing up.
Well, this one, the zero, zero two is the final,
could not have been on a lot of cards.
Zero two, not good.
Yes, that's not something you would buy in Vandal.
Yes. Yes, seriously.
But my oldest kid was in Oregon one,
cause I put his name in and he's
like, uh, he's like, you know what?
Just give it to all the little kids at the party.
And I was like, well, you're no son of mine.
I would never do that, but sure.
I'll do that.
So that's that.
Um, that's really the parent code.
I'm, I'm, I'm back in on squares, but also is this the biggest Venmo day of the year?
Oh, that's interesting.
That would be a good Venmo ad.
That should be a Venmo Superboy ad. Yeah. Biggest day of the year. We won that's interesting. That would be a good Venmo ad. That should be a Venmo Super Bowl ad.
Biggest day of the year.
We won't tell anyone if you don't tell anyone.
Like one of those kind of things.
That's what happens.
Oh, what happens in Venmo stays in Venmo.
That should be it.
That should be their strategy.
Right.
You know, we forgot to talk about the halftime show,
by the way.
The Kendrick thing where I knew he was playing
Not Like Us because I was tipped off, but theyrick thing where I knew he was playing not like us
cause I was tipped off, but they, they teased it so that it was like, am I
going to do it? Am I going to do it?
And then they did it.
And the whole crowd, at least part of the crowd was singing the chorus.
And it was, uh, it was pretty great.
I mean, he had already decisively won the beef and then this was like, you
know, almost like going for two and running the Philly special
when you're up 52 to seven with two minutes left,
and just like the all-time FU exclamation point.
It was pretty great.
Did people love it?
I feel like on social, it's getting killed a little bit.
It was exactly as polarizing as I think he wanted it to be.
Like he didn't play all of like, here are my five best songs.
He didn't do the usual thing and it was all leading.
Something else that-
Visually it was pretty cool.
Wasn't as polarizing.
Kanye had a fricking commercial on Fox.
What?
I'm not joking.
What was the commercial?
I don't even know what the hell it was.
We were all staring at each other like,
what the fuck, what is going on? He seemed to be in a dentist chair.
He was just saying gibberish and this is after an insane week on Twitter.
Um, yeah, I, you know, we don't have to get into it, but we live in a really messed up
time.
I mean, he went after everybody.
It's probably going to be after us.
Yeah.
I was like, and Fox let him kick him off.
Go down.
Unbelievable.
Yeah.
Kick him off the island too.
But that was the biggest shocker that and, uh, the chiefs lose my 35 points. Yeah. I was like, and Fox let him go down. Yeah. Unbelievable. Yeah. Kick him off the island too.
But that was the biggest shocker that and the chiefs lose my 35 points,
whatever it was.
You know, you know, it wasn't a great, wasn't a great year so far for the gambling.
Didn't do well on any of the chiefs bets.
Million dollar picks got killed in the playoffs.
Just not, not great.
But my mom's text about what the hell is going on
during the halftime show made up for 90% of it.
She didn't know what was happening.
It should almost be like its own social media channel
of old people trying to understand
the Super Bowl Halftime Show Act,
which I think is part of the point
of the Halftime Show Act, right?
Yeah.
To just make like at least one third of the country go like, what's going on?
What's he saying?
Yeah, that should be the ratings.
That should be like, hey, how many mom texts were sent?
What the hell is going on?
Or dad texts.
This is terrible.
I don't think anyone over 60 enjoyed it.
I don't necessarily have a parent corner.
I have a wife corner.
And you kind of know this story,
but I'm gonna tell it again just for the pot.
So you guys are all here and House is here.
And House posts a picture of him and Page Sparanaik
on his Instagram.
It's him and Van and Page Sparanaik.
I took it.
Arms around them, you took the picture.
So my wife that night is like,
hey, what's going on with House?
And I'm like, what do you mean?
And she's like, did you see his Instagram?
I'm like, no, I didn't, what happened?
And she shows me, I'm like, this is crazy.
Like his wife's, like what's,
is his wife's gonna like put all his stuff outside
Like how do you do this if you did this I would fucking kill you really and I'm like and I'm like this that's page-sparing
So now I have to walk her through the whole this isn't just like I took a picture with like an attractive blonde
Like this is actually like somebody in the golf community. She's got four million followers on Instagram
You show them the Instagram pictures?
I brought her on Instagram.
I'm like, this is who it is.
It's a celebrity.
It's actually a very smart move by House
for social media to take a picture with her.
Like this will probably be like the most looked at
Instagram post.
Joe House, a man in his mid 50s
is probably gonna have this year.
So he has to do the post.
So now I'm explaining to her this whole, you know, cottage industry of, of, uh, of what,
what page like leveraging social media.
Boy, I wouldn't think leading your life to Paige's Instagram page would be the move,
but this work. No, she, she was pro, she was like, oh, I get it now.
I get, I see it. Yeah. More power to her. She just didn't, she didn pro-pay she was like oh I get it now I get I see it
Yeah more power to her. She just didn't she didn't understand why house was doing that. She thought it was like some sort of
like midlife crisis
My marriage is in the tank thing
So I had to walk her through it and then also introduce her into the world of social media and sports and how right it takes
Some twists and turns it was very exciting
and how it takes some twists and turns. It was very exciting.
So when you said later that your wife might not have been
thrilled about the Slim Jim, like you know what?
We're all just trying to stay relevant here
in the old sports media world.
It's all about clicks.
I could, I'm not gonna end up probably with that woman.
Yeah, I don't think, you know, I'm not interested.
It's fine.
But you know, Joe Howe's not a polarizing guy. I've never had a fight with him
in 37 years. Of course. One of the highest approval rating people of anybody who I'm friends with
and beloved by my wife. And it was like the first time she's ever been mad at Joe House.
I didn't laugh, but it was shocking. She should have been mad at him for taking money out of an ATM and not gambling.
Like that to me is a worse offense than any of the pages.
It knocked him out of Goat Island.
My wife today, the chiefs are down. I don't even know what the hell score was. She comes up to me and I obviously have a lot of money on the chiefs.
And she says, boy, chiefs are getting beat bad. This is not what I expected. Is this what you expected?
And I'm fucking hemorrhaging money at this point.
And so I think I just,
I think I ran to the bathroom and cried.
You have no belt for your pants anymore.
You've lost everything.
It's still there.
Yeah, it's weird.
Like dead wrong about the game.
Don't even feel that bad about it.
It's like, what are we gonna do?
Like the Chiefs did this over and over again.
It was idiotic to go against them.
And I just didn't want to do it again.
After that Ravens game last year, I just don't.
So now, now we can treat a football season normally.
Now we can just bet against them.
Now we don't have to talk about this mystical thing or whatever.
Just have some opinions.
And now there's room on the island.
Now the room, the island is back,
the penthouse suite has opened up on Goat Island.
Tom Brady's back, that's it.
All right, Sal, so this is it for yet another
football season for us.
This is season, oh seven is 16.
I think this is season 19 for us.
Unlike Shereani with the anthem.
Next year's our 20th season for Guess the Lens.
Oh, it is.
Oh, we gotta do something.
Yeah.
Yeah, cause we started in 07 and next year's,
oh no, is it?
No, it's our 18th.
I can't count.
Maybe 19.
This is 2024 season, heading into the 25.
Yeah, so next year's 19.
We gotta do like an SNL thing, like do like a retrospect,
have all the great music that's played.
Everything. Well, this is about as bad as I can remember doing the playoffs in a while.
Just never had a feel for it this year. The playoffs? Oh, yeah. The playoffs in general, but
we're gonna do some basketball stuff. You still got
Against All Odds and you still have the pop ringer. Yeah.
But you're gonna come on a couple of times
and then we're doing masters.
We're bringing baby doll to the masters this year.
That's the most important sports moment of the year
for everybody.
We've got basketball coming.
Got the NBA, now you can watch NBA.
Now you can care about NBA.
I'm excited.
The draft?
Didn't work out.
We can bet on the draft.
We've got draft props. Yeah, we'll't believe DAD didn't work out. We can bet on the draft. We've got draft props.
Yeah, we'll be right there.
Yep.
Should our Sanders over unders?
Pro day in a few days, we'll find out who won the next gen stat, uh,
prop on Fandl, the fastest player.
Wouldn't that be Worthy? Worthy had to have gone the fastest, right?
Oh, I guess so. Yeah, with that.
Yeah, I don't know. Yes.
It's, it's got down the field pretty quickly too. Anyway. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know, yes. That's got down the field pretty quickly too.
Anyway.
Yeah.
Well, I'm gonna miss you.
This is always bittersweet for me.
I would like to go out on a win.
We can always just call each other on the phone
or just see each other in person.
There's that.
Yeah.
All right, thanks to Steve Cerruti, Kyle Creighton
and Ka-Ha as well for producing this.
All the way through.
We did not do YouTube live this week cause I'm in New Orleans, but, um, but, uh,
we had a lot of fun doing that too.
Thanks to everybody for spreading the word for us.
And I got a new rewatchable is coming tomorrow night too.
So it's a big movie, big movie from the eighties.
Any guesses?
Really big famous eighties movie.
Oh, I'm going to guess wrong.
Haven't done it yet.
Well, I want to say now there's a couple left. This is gonna guess wrong haven't done it yet. Well done all of them now
There's a couple left. This is a big one very about it
It's SNL related coneheads
Blues Brothers we did the Blues Brothers. Oh, yeah, it was anyway, that's coming on Monday night
So Sal last time of the year, good job by you.
Good job by you buddy. I'm on the wayside, on the brink of sorrow and never on the same.
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