The Bill Simmons Podcast - RIP Matthew Perry, Plus the Return of Cincy, a Bad Week 8 QB Draft, Wemby Live, and Guess the Lines With Cousin Sal

Episode Date: October 30, 2023

The Ringer's Bill Simmons remembers Matthew Perry (1:21) before he is joined by Cousin Sal to draft the 12 worst NFL QBs after some truly poor Week 8 quarterback play (11:30), and answer some NFL burning questions like: "Do you believe in Will Levis," "Are the Bengals officially back," "Who will be the NFC 7-seed," and more (25:30). Then they guess the lines for Week 9 (57:49), and close the show with Parent Corner (1:26:19). Host: Bill Simmons Guest: Cousin Sal Producer: Kyle Crichton Host: Bill Simmons Guest: Cousin Sal Producer: Kyle Crichton The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming, please checkout theringer.com/RG to find out more or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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And we're going to be doing a Hall of Fame episode this week in honor of Matthew Perry who died over the weekend at age 54. Really, really sad story. It hit me hard, I got to say. Friends was the iconic sitcom after Seinfeld. The only show that

really pulled off what people in their 20s during the 90s were like. And obviously they missed on a bunch of stuff, but that first year and that, you know, a little of the second year before it became kind of a bigger, splashier show, there were themes on those shows that really resonated. You know, like what it's like to be in a group of friends when some people are making more money than others. I stand by the first season of Friends

as not only a great season of TV, but a really good document of what life was like for people back then pre-internet when you were in your 20s. Matthew Perry's Chandler Bing character was the breakout star along with the Jennifer Aniston character and Rachel and Jennifer Aniston in general.

It seemed like he got most of the best lines of the first season. He was just crushing it. And if you were buying stock of an actor or anybody on that show, you would have bought the stock of him and of Jennifer Aniston and just assumed that they were going to have

these gigantic, long, A-list careers. And his career was pretty good. He made some movies and had a comeback with Studio 60, but it never hit the peaks that we thought it might. And then as he got older, we found out why,

because he had a lot of demons. A lot of demons that came from being on a mega hit show and fame and all the celebrity stuff that comes with it and he had trouble handling it. He talked pretty openly about it. Like he, you know, I think he said he didn't remember filming Three Years of Friends.

And, you know, sometimes we're more romantic about it when it happens with musicians and athletes, I think, when they don't reach their potential or when they get sidetracked or something happens. Like in sports, there'll be an injury or drugs or something. And same with music, things can just go sideways for all these different reasons. I mean, they literally had behind the music as a show. It's been the basis of a lot of different documentaries over the years. But when it's actors or actresses, we don't really think of the potential piece kind of as much unless they get taken way too soon, like somebody like River Phoenix.

But I always thought Matthew Perry, I always thought he was such a unique talent and he had such great comic timing. And you think about all the movies that came in the late nineties and the, in the two thousands and you know, all this stuff, Vince Vaughn and Will Farrell and, uh, the Apatow era. And it was just such a great era of comedy and he wasn't in it probably as much as, as he could have been. And part of it was because friends was such a big show and they were all making so much money and maybe it wasn't, the incentive wasn't quite there, but also he was having a lot of issues And he was somebody that as the years passed, you felt like, man, I'm rooting for this guy. I hope he gets his shit together or I hope he has a comeback. I always was waiting for the Matthew Perry comeback. And Studio 60 was probably the closest

because he was great on that show. The show was pretty spotty, but he was great on it. And he had a couple other moments, but he never kind of matched the potential of those first few years on Friends. But at the same time, what happened on those first few years of Friends and what happened for the 10 years he was on, that was one of the most famous TV shows we've ever had. And he was one of the most famous characters on it. So that ended up becoming a lot of his legacy. But man, I'm telling you, in the 90s, it just seemed like the sky was the limit for that guy. And it's sad to think of all the people from that era. I was in my mid-20s and in the mid-90s,

and you just think everybody's going to be around forever. He's gone. Luke Perry's gone. A lot of the musicians that I loved back then, a surprising amount of them are gone. And you realize, like, holy shit, man. When they say life is short, they aren't kidding. But I really appreciated the Matthew Perry era. I really did.

I thought he was a wildly underrated talent. And now he lives on in these Friends reruns where they just capture from 1994 through 2004. They capture all these people at these different stages, not only the characters on the show, but as they became more and more and more famous and you can kind of feel it in the show. And it's a show that had a long enough tale that even people in my daughter's generation end up and, and falling for it. And it's probably the last really truly famous sitcom, you know, in the age of, in, in, in the age of where everybody kind of watched the same shows. Now, I guess that's coming back a little bit with Netflix where we feel like, oh yeah, are you watching that show? And Netflix is the only one that feels like,

sometimes HBO will have like Last of Us or White Lotus, stuff like that. But none of them felt as big as like Friends and ER were in the mid nineties, where it was just 30 million people watching an episode of something. So he was a big part of that whole era. And it was a really sad weekend for me and a lot of other people who loved what he did

and really enjoyed him. So wanted to mention that. RIP Matthew Perry. We're going to bring in Sal. Let's bring in Pearl Jam. All right, taping this 845 on Sunday night. Sal's mad at me because normally we start recording earlier, but I went to the Clipper game tonight. I skipped Sunday night. Sal's mad at me because normally we start recording earlier, but I went to the Clipper game tonight. I skipped Sunday night football.

Victor Wimbanyama was in town, Sal, and I had to go see him lose by about 70 points to the Clippers. Was it everything you imagined? It was great. He's on a terrible team. They have no point guard. I don't know what kind of team they're trying to put around

him. They have nobody who can run a pick and roll with him or anything, but it was really fun to watch him. The cameras were out and, you know, it looks like a nice kid. He was really upset that they were getting killed, which I thought was interesting. Like,

yeah, yeah. Don't worry. There's going to be 60 more of these. I heard all the players were jealous that you got home in 12 minutes. How does he figure it out? There's going to be 60 more of these. I heard all the players were jealous that you got home in 12 minutes. How does he figure it out? Get me out of here.

123-83. Jesus. Well, they're over under, I think it was like 27 and a half or 28. There's no way. From what I saw tonight, they just have some players they like, and there's guys with length, and they just throw these dudes just have some players they like and there's guys with Blank and they just throw these dudes out

with Wemby but there's no real no real lineup or team yet so it's gonna be he's gonna have some rough ones I was hoping

the one thing he usually has are these little four minute spurts where he just takes over the game and it never really happened because

the Clippers the Clippers look really good I gotta say I was impressed I like that he's not... I mean, the first game, all we wanted to do was shoot threes. It's like, oh, wow. He

hoodwinked the whole league, but it looks like it's a little more spread out for him. He did three things I've never seen in a basketball game before, and it was a pretty forgettable game. So even that... They throw alley-oops to him, and it's like if you're in the basement playing on a Nerf hoop with little kids,

and they throw you an alley-oop, and you just kind of redirect it into the Nerf hoop. That happened like three times in this game I went to today. It's fun watching an alien play your favorite sport. He's definitely an alien. I was watching him. I was studying him during the warm-ups, trying to see how locked in was he. It seems like he has it. I'm not worried about that, dude.

The Westbrook thing with the Clippers is the startling thing to me. He's the leader of the team. He was awesome. He was all over the place. Anyway, we'll talk basketball on Tuesday on this podcast. We're going to talk football here. You didn't miss much of a Sunday night game.

I'll say that. Yeah, give me the recap. What did I miss on Bears-Chargers other than the Tyson-Bajan era ended pretty abruptly, huh? Yeah, another Tyson screwed me. Tyson Fury couldn't knock out an MMA fighter. A good one, but whatever. He won by decision.

And Tyson-Bajan, a lot of cutaways to his father, arm wrestling champ, but it wasn't really his fault. This is just a game that the Chargers are going to win. We have to give them one or two or three actually easy games. Now, everybody's convinced maybe they're the seventh seed. Now, they'll crap the bed again. We're back on track with the Chargers.

Well, there's so many places to go, but I texted you. Rarely do we sketch out anything we want to do in the pod. I like to surprise you. But I said, I want to have a bad quarterback draft. It was so hard to keep track of everything. I had the TV split up into four quadrants. My two TVs next to it. So I had five games plus red zone. And I still feel like I missed 70% of everything that was happening. But the one thing that was apparent for three plus hours was the quarterback play, which has never been worse.

And that continued into the late games. So what we're going to do is... We saw this had to be a record, by the way, nine games in the morning, and five backup quarterbacks came in. And by the way, the guys that were backing up were not very good to begin with, the Desmond Ritters of the world,

but we saw five out of nine games to have a backup come in. I don't think we've ever seen that before. So this Tommy DeVito, was that the name of Pesci and've ever seen that before. So this Tommy DeVito, was that the name of Pesci and Goodfellas? Was his name Tommy DeVito or it was something else? Or did he not have a last name? No, he did. Hold on.

I want to say it was Tommy DeVito, wasn't it? Wasn't it Tommy DeVito from Goodfellas? Yeah. How does he have the same name as the guy from Goodfellas? And we have this gimmick on the Wise Guys show on Sundays that we call Tommy's Getting Made about the bet that you don't see coming that you're just going to get shot in the head after you make it. Now, his name was Tommy. Oh, I guess it was Tommy DeVito.

Oh, my God. Yeah. Unbelievable. So, this guy in the Giants who's named after Tommy, who gets shot in the head when he thinks he's getting made in good fellas. And then the Giants get shot in the head in that Jets Giants game, which was how many punts? 25, 27. They were like three for 24 on third downs. So I didn't have the exact number because I got sick.

24 punts. 24 punts and at least seven guys carted off the field. Okay, so we're going to do a bad quarterback draft to commemorate how bad today was. And you said this and I was like, oh, this is going to be easy. And it is not easy. This is tough.

So we're going to stick with... Yeah, we're going to do five players. We'll go back and forth. You can have first pick and we're getting each have five guys. Who is your first pick of the October 29th, 2023 bad quarterback draft of guys we watched today. I just need, I don't need clarification for this first pick,

but every pick after I'm going to need, it's tough. Is this, is this who you don't like? If this guy can't lead your team to a field goal, your family gets tied up and tossed into the Pacific Ocean?

How are we ranking these? I wouldn't draft any of them on my team. We're going from worse to less worse. It's got to be the sense of hopelessness for if you're rooting for the team or if you bet on the team

and it's third and six, how hopeless you feel. So you're going Tommy DeVito first. I have to. I think it's unfair that you gave me the first pick. This is like the Adrian Peterson years, the Marshall Falk years of a draft when it's like we should really do an auction draft

because Tommy DeVito can't throw a forward pass, which I feel is important in 2023. He could throw a screen and he could hand off, but I have no confidence that he could get their team downfield. He can't throw a forward pass. I'm probably going to get whacked for saying that, but Tommy DeVito is my pick. It was terrible weather, So the Giants passing now is it was terrible weather. But the Giants passed today. They were six for 14 for minus nine yards.

It says and Tommy DeVito is two for seven for minus one. Got sacked twice. I actually thought like that was some sort of accident or like the ESPN.com thing stalled. But those are the actual stats. And this was an overtime game, which is even better. like the ESPN.com thing stalled. But those were the actual stats. Yeah. And this was an overtime game, which was even better. He had,

he played at least, I don't know, two and a half quarters. And they were just like, Tommy, you're not, like at some point, if you're just not going to have him throw it all, like why not have Saquon Barkley

just be the quarterback? Just wild card it with Barkley. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I don't know what they were doing. I don't know what day ball. And I did predict. I have very few good predictions that come to fruition.

The fans would turn on day ball. Well, I guess we'll get more into that game. But we'll stick with the draft for now. Yeah, Tommy DeVito is the first pick. Now you get two. We're doing snake. Oh, you want to go snake fashion? That's it.

Well, I just feel bad that i got time well we should because tommy devito is a ridiculous ridiculous value at number one um so i'm gonna take uh trubisky here i had the viewers um i was i was excited about them especially when the game unfolded where it was just classic Steelers. They were somehow in the game. It was 6-3. They had no first downs, and two turnovers were covered. And it was just, it had all the makings.

And then Pickett gets hurt, and Trubisky comes in. And I can just tell you how crestfallen I was when I saw him. Really? He throws it up for grabs. Yeah. Like the one thing we said about Trubisky in the past was if he doesn't know he's playing, sometimes he's okay. Not the case today.

Not the case. Now there are some bad calls and that Pittsburgh was mad about after, but I've just completely given up on him. I don't know what he does well. I don't think he knows what he does well. They don't really know. He's not like a, they don't, he's not Josh Allen anymore.

He doesn't scramble out to the sides or anything. He just is kind of this terrible pocket passer. So he's my first pick. And, uh, and then I have to take, uh, this Jaron Hall that came in for Cousins. Who is that guy? Where did he come from? It's almost unfair. They're 4-4.

Is he the starter now? No. They got to. No. But, I mean, don't you get if this was a course, wouldn't you give him an NA? I mean, he was 3-4 for 23 yards. I know his QBR could need some work, like a 4.3 or whatever.

But, no, they can't stick with him. You're right to not have any confidence in him. Who do you have with the fourth pick? All right. Wow. Boy, there's so many. A lot of good people left on the board. I'll go Brett Rippin for one.

Not inspiring. As soon as I saw 7.7 QBR came in against the Cowboys, I wasn't scared at all. It's like put Stafford in with a broken hand or whatever he has. He'll do better. It was 5 for 10 for 42. Yeah, Brett Rippin comes in when you have the Cowboys defense and fantasy and you're like delighted.

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So that's it. So do I get another one too? Do I get another one? We're snaking? Yeah. I'll tell you what, man.

Well, Dorian Thompson Robinson came in and threw a pass. Does that count? Yeah. It was one for one. You could have him. All right. You can take him. Okay.

All right. Here's that. He stinks. This is great. We should do this every week. Instead of ranking MVPs, we talk, oh, it's Mahomes. It's Tua. No, we should do this every week instead of ranking mvps we talk oh it's it's mahomes it's two right now we should do this so you have dorian thompson that was a really ballsy pick i like it thank you um man i it's zach wilson can't go lower than this

i gotta have him really even though um even though he threw... He had... So I turned that game off. I didn't know what was... I didn't realize because the Giants had the ball. They were inside the 30. They had a three-point lead. It was under two minutes left and they're running and I'm just like, oh, this is over. They're going to run out the clock.

And then all of a sudden they cut in to the other game like on the red zone or something like 10-10. I'm like, I don't even understand how they got it back. So Wilson made one big play, but I still think he's terrible. I mean, 10 points seems like a miracle with him. All right, but wait a minute. At least he drove them down to a tying field goal. Anyone you're not picking you think could do that?

Maybe you're right. Maybe it's five points. No, he's there. And then PJ Walker is my other one. Okay. Not bad. He, you know,

I want to talk about that Browns game in the next segment, but he had three turnovers again. Yeah. And he just, he's just not functional. He's a 50% passer.

He has bad judgment. There's drop passes with him. He, uh, you know, he can do, he's a little like Dobbs. He can do just enough to make you,

to fool you into thinking the offense is moving. But if you actually have money on him or you're ruining for him, he's just a nightmare. So he's my pick. All right. That's fair. What do you got? You got to,

um, John, who Smith threw a pass. I won't count that. No, you can't. We're not counting. Okay, he doesn't count. Okay, I get two.

These are my last two. This will be five for me. We might go six each. We can go two hours with this. Yeah. I got to put Kenny Pickett in there. He stinks. He was 10 for 16 for 73 yards,

but this is in the middle of the second quarter. They had negative one yards total. Like he does this all the time. This is ridiculous. If he doesn't have an average defense, if he has an average defense, he's done. I,

he just, and we say it every week. That's it. I'm sorry. The problem is he heats up in the last 10 minutes of the game, but he got hurt before he had a chance to heat up. He, the first play of the game,

I think it was Deontay Johnson just wide open over the middle. And it looked like it would have been like a 40-yard pass and he overthrew him. And Johnson maybe could have called it in, but it was just wide. It was just like, oh, this is going to be another Kenny Pickett game. I'm telling you, it's redefining system quarterback because this is the only system he could be in where the Steelers team, they're playing such good defense. They leave him good field position and he could maybe put up some points.

You wouldn't want him for Mac Jones, right? I mean, I'm not, no. Well, I will say this makes me feel better about how high I took Trubisky because I was actually bummed out when Kenny Pickett came out. And I agree, this is the right range for him to get drafted. All right, who's your next one? I got one more. I got one more. All out. And I agree, this is the right range for him to get drafted.

All right, who's your next one? I got one more. I got one more. All right. I can't believe Matt Jones hasn't gone yet. Can I take DeVito again? No. Will Tyson Bajan still out there?

Yeah, I think we gave him too much credit. You know what? You take Tyson Bajan. I'm going to take Desmond Ritter. I'm sick of this Bajan. I'm going to take Desmond Ritter. I'm sick of this guy, too. I'm going to take another starter. You know, I don't speak ill of the guy. I think he's in concussion protocol, but 8 for 12 for 71,

and that's what the best we're going to get out of him. Had three turnovers last week, three fumbles, two of them inside the one, one inside the seven. How many turnovers do you have today? One or two? I think it was just one today. Yeah. He had a bad combo. Okay. Alright, so you have

Ritter. I am taking Tyson Bajan. Okay. And I'm taking Mac Jones. And Mac Jones, honestly, this is incredible value. Classic Mac Jones today.

Is he a keeper? Is he a keeper in your bad corner back track? Yeah, you can roll him over. You know, he looked pretty good last week. He sucked all of us in to thinking that that Pats game was sitting there for them. I don't know if they could have stolen it, but their defense was really good today.

And they had that PI that they called on Tyreek Hill was just an unbelievable you know, just a barely touch call. Did not match a lot of the other stuff that happened. Like they missed the helmet to helmet that got Devontae Parker knocked out of the game.

But the Pats were hanging around. They're driving at the end. They played the end of the second quarter perfectly, right? It's like Miami's not going to get the ball back. We're either at the end. They played the end of the second quarter perfectly. It's like Miami's not going to get the ball back. We're either going to get a field goal or we're going to tie the game. They're driving down, and then he throws it right to Jalen Ramsey.

And that ball was in the air for five seconds. And it was the culmination of a bunch of shaky plays where it's just like he loses his... It's like watching a basketball player who can't make a three-pointer. He just loses his confidence. It was in the air for five seconds. He was throwing 20-yard Hail Marys.

It looked like a helium balloon. He makes three, four terrible throws a game. They dropped a couple picks from him today. They were showing wide replays of him taking sacks but there would be two guys open that he just wasn't throwing to for some reason pretty brutal so anyway I got Tyson Bajent, Mac Jones

you want one more pick? I'll just take one more I don't need to do the double here I don't think it's time for Dobbs I don't think it's time for Minshew just yet I mean it would be easy to say Will Levis but we we could wait one week, I think, before he comes back down to earth. I'm going to say Jordan Love.

Giving up on Jordan Love, too. 24 for 41, 229. That's the best he's going to do. A 17 QBR. 11 touchdowns, 8 interceptions on the year. And it seems much worse. When you watch him play, it just seems much worse than those numbers I just read.

He's gotten worse every week. And I was very enticed potentially to bet on them today. And he was the reason I didn't bet on them. It's not just him, though. That might be the worst coach team in the league now. I think they had eight penalties in the first half. But they look like they haven't practiced. They're just a mess.

And it's not like they don't have talent. I know they lost their left tackle, but they do have, you know, somewhat, it shouldn't be this hard for them to move the ball downfield and score. They're playing the fucking Vikings.

Maybe we do worst coach next week draft. Oh, worst coach would be really fun. All right. So guys who didn't get picked, Sam Howell, Josh Dobbs, Russell Wilson,

Bryce Young, and Will Levis, who shouldn't have been picked because he was really good today. So there we go. All right. Sal's team is DeVito, Jordan Love, Ritter, Rippon, Dorian Thompson-Robinson. He kind of cheated with that one. And Kenny Pickett.

And then I have Zach Wilson, PJ Walker, Mack Jones, Tyson Bajent, Trubisky, and Jaron Hall. So we'll have to put those on social and we'll have everybody vote and see who has the better bad quarterback team. Let's take a break and we'll talk about some of the other Week 8 stuff.

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That's the powerful backing of American Express. Terms and conditions apply. Visit amex.ca slash business platinum. All right, let's play some burning questions. Do you believe in Will Levis is my first question. I am trying to think what team the Falcons remind me of and that you just throw out their games. Don't,

don't pretend you're good because you beat them. Don't pretend you're bad that you lost to them. They're just, are they the unpredictable Johnny rods of, yes, exactly. Unpredictable Johnny rods, just a veteran.

Yep. Thanks. All that jobbers, but, exactly. The unpredictable Johnny Rods. Just a veteran. The Kevin Owens? Yep. All that. Jobbers, but can make you look good one night. And I don't know where it came from. I really don't.

But this Titans team, just the team seems to play like this every three weeks when you want to write them off. Phone dog. I went against them in Million Dollar Picks.

It was one of my losing picks because they were doing this QB. It seemed like semi-platoon with Will Levis and Malik Willis. And that, to me, just smelled like a disaster. I usually like them at home. Vrabel at home as a dog, that Atlanta team, who the hell trusts them? You know what else probably swayed you?

And maybe it was subconsciously all the trade talk about Derrick Henry. He's not going to be on this team next week. Well, they traded a buyer, too. It just made me think that they were throwing the towel on the season. And I got to say, man, this is one of the games I had in my four box for most of the day. I thought he made some really good throws. He throws a nice deep ball. It's accurate.

He steps into it. He had some time to throw, but he didn't seem rattled to me. He didn't seem skittish. He seemed pretty calm. Once they had the lead, he was going up to the line. He was milking the clock to two seconds left and snapping it. He hit all the throws he needed to hit. I was impressed. Well, listen, DeAndre Hopkins is, I don't want to put a number on him, top 10 or top eight or whatever. He's still

damn good. Yeah, he should have made eight in a bunch in that game. Eight weeks before he scores his first touchdown. It shouldn't be you know, put Willison and get that done. They did the thing that I just don't understand why the Patriots don't do. Maybe they don't feel like they have their receiver, but when you're not a good offense,

just chuck it downfield. Two out of three results are positive. It's either a PI or a catch or the ball's underthrown and the guy gets interfered with. It's the most dangerous offense in the league. If you're Tennessee, just fucking do it. Especially a veteran

receiver who knows how to play that. Right. Yeah. Philly's figured out with AJ Brown, like they're, they're at a whole other level with it. Cause their quarterback's actually good and they could just whip it down to him anytime they want.

But I was really impressed. I really was. Cause I think Atlanta's defense is pretty good. And I don't know that that was a game that if he wasn't good, I think they would have lost so and now they go to well we'll talk about it but they have a prime time game against Pittsburgh and so you know on Thursday night yeah right yeah it's a tough one so we'll know on Thursday but I thought for a rookie start especially because what was the top of the second round very solid yeah

I'll take them over Mac Jones right now. All right. Next question. Is it Brock Purdy panic time? Question mark. Question mark. Exclamation point. Question mark. Whoa. Oh, if you put it that way.

Man, it might be. I feel like a fraud because I was screaming that he should get an extension and circumvent all the rules and get the extension like three weeks ago. Yeah. But this is just, that second interception was really bad. We could blame Trent Williams being out or whatever. There's not a ton of pressure on him on some of these throws. And it is very strange. I mean, that sideline interception was crazy, but that second one was really bad.

And I saw some weird stat with Shanahan. It was like four and twenty eight when losing by three points or more entering the fourth quarter. Like the conditions almost have to be perfect for them. And there was some other side. What is it like when they're down eight heading into the fourth quarter? He's like never. Then he's done. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't know. I he's done. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I'm not going to panic just yet, but it does seem like more needs to be right for him to, for things to go positively. So our guy,

Steven Ruiz from The Ringer, who was on this podcast a few weeks ago, but he had kind of planted his flag. He does these QB rankings for us every week that are really great. And he just calls it like he sees it. And he had kind of planted his flag. He does these QB rankings for us every week that are really great.

And he just calls it like he sees it. And he had Purdy in the twenties in the rankings every week. And when they started out three and oh, four and oh, um, people were fucking pissed and people are coming at him. It became a local story in the Bay area. Like there was like pieces written about it.

Like this is such disrespect. Peter King mentioned it. And I got to give Ruiz credit. He stuck to his guns. He's like, look, this is what I see. I think he's a product of the system, and I just don't think he's very good. And he never wavered, and it was like a

victory lap the last two weeks for him. And I like Purdy more than that. I do think he does a lot of good things, but you know, once Debo the second question I could ask you is Debo Samuel way more valuable than we realized because

once you took Debo out of this, you know, I mean, he did throw for 365 today. He had a bunch of guys had big games, but yeah, I mean, they were, it wasn't just the two picks. Like there were some other plays that could have been picked too. He had a bunch of guys had big games, but yeah, I mean, they were, it wasn't just the two picks. Like there were some other plays that could have been picked too. He was bad. Yeah. And he went up against a better quarterback. Let's not

forget Burrow. I think we underrated Burrow too, right? We still want to stick him with the injury. Like, oh, we sure he's in sync with Jamar Chase. Like, yeah, that team is back and they're going to be tough to beat and we should like them the rest of the way. And by the way, by doing, I love what we opened with the, with the bad quarterback draft, but we are going to be tough to beat and we should like them the rest of the way. And by the way, I love what we opened with with the bad quarterback draft, but

we are going to get a ton of shit online for this because we went after people's the highest of the city's hopes. Like, how dare you say about Tommy DeVito? We're going to hear about from every fan base. It's going to be terrible all week. Tommy DeVito's a good guy.

The Purdy thing. So this season is so long. It would be like, you know, like, I don't know if The Sopranos, if the season was like 20 episodes instead of 10 to 13, whatever it was, where the dips and the storylines, just the ebb and flows of them. This Purdy thing, it's week eight. The Purdy's had like, there's been seven different Brock Purdy storylines, just the ebb and flows of them. This Purdy thing, it's week eight. Purdy's had like, there's been seven different Brock Purdy storylines already. And now going forward, you know, is there Darnold buzz building?

Are they just going to say, no, no, he's, you know, like, was he still like a little slightly fuzzy from last week? Is this a confidence thing where now it's not going to be the same? It just becomes this compelling story that I'm excited to follow. I'd still be very surprised if they weren't there championship weekend in the NFC.

Still very surprised. If you're giving me all three of those weapons and they're all playing, the thing that was surprising to me today was just how the Bengals just torched them. I mean, the Bengals had 29 first downs in that game. And it felt that way. They just felt like they were driving every time.

Defense isn't great. They gave up four scores in five red zone trips, I think, against Cincinnati. 400 yards. That's another problem. Well, that leads to the next question. Are the Bengals officially back? I mean, it feels like they are capital B back because Burrow was awesome today. And they just looked like the Bengals.

We've been waiting on it. They are the defensive coordinator, Big Lou. Once again, outwitted the other team's offensive, whoever they were, but Burrow was on it today. Really good. And I think he could have even had better stats, honestly, if he wanted. What was he, 28 for 32?

Over 280 yards. And they ran on him, too. They gave up 134 rushing San Francisco. It's not the same 49ers defense. I think that's probably the biggest story. But yeah, he's hitting everybody again. He's spreading it out. The Irv Smith juniors are getting involved at this point, plus Boyd, Higgins, and Chase. Mixon's doing things that he didn't even do last year. This whole offense

is flowing. They could add more points. Smith had a fumble inside the 10. It was funny watching. That game comes on right after this bad quarterback orgy that we had in the early games and Burrow comes in and everything's on target and then he hits somebody in the corner with like no room at all and it's like oh that's

oh I'm watching a good quarterback it's almost like your brain it's like you know putting on the they live sunglasses and your brain has to like adjust to this vision you get. They look really good. I mean, I never crossed them off. It was unclear when he was going to be healthy. And it was unclear if their secondary was just considerably worse than it was last year

because they had some defections, but the pedigree of them. We talked about this when we did over-unders at the start of the year. It was like, tough schedule. Burrows hurt already. Could you see, is this one of those seasons where they start out slow? They kind of get better as it goes along, and then by November, December,

they look like the Bengals again. So we're on pace for that. Why don't we like plus 330 then for the division is it just too much too much Ravens I think we do I mean we talked uh why Schrager on Thursday we're talking about some of the longer shutouts one of them was Seattle for the division was like I think plus 550 on Thursday right yeah and you just had to think like all right if they win at home and San Francisco somehow loses, they'll be dead even.

They still play San Francisco twice. They have two and three weeks against them. Plus 250 now, by the way, the Seahawks. Yeah. Yeah, the Bengals though, they had to do that before you could bet on them, I feel like. Didn't you feel like they had to have a game?

Yeah, I think so. What we saw. I didn't know if they had an interim or not. Everybody's beating up on Arizona, and it's fine, but I think you're right. Now they had a big win, and now they play Buffalo at home this week, but plus three-thirds, this might be the time they'll jump on

them. They're a game and a half back of Baltimore. I know they lost to them, but they have one more. Kirsten Taylor Swift? Kind of tiny question mark. Eight point font question mark. That's the worst the Chiefs have ever looked today in the Mahomes era. Ever.

Really bad. Really bad. And really bad if you add him in a tease. Then it really was really, really bad. I sure did. I sure did. I sure did too. I feel like we got a lot of misinformation on this game.

First of all, Schefter told us it was going to be 8 to 12 inches of snow. I was like, got a lot of misinformation on this game first of all Schefter told us it's going to be 8 to 12 inches of snow I was like that's great it was like a quarter of an inch of snow yeah it was nothing I couldn't even tell depending on how big a box your TV was in but I was like Denver's 31st ranked defense second there's

going to be slipping around no no snow and then no one until this morning when our picks were all in said that Mahomes was sick. How is that fair? I've had it making picks on Thursdays. I really might just dump million dollar picks and come up

with some different gimmick where I get to do the picks on Sunday. It's like the Chiefs is in tees and then it's like Mahomes might not play. If he plays, he's sick. It's like, well, fucking great. I made my bet on million-dollar picks on Thursday. I bet the real game on Tuesday. And now

he's sick? Yeah, take some emergency. They scored nine points. With that said, Denver's defense, which gave up 70 points to Miami, I would say the two weirdest results of the entire season that have affected most of my picks negatively were Dolphins 70, Broncos 20,

and the Cardinals beating the Cowboys. Yeah, I think that's fair. It just really screwed up how you saw... Because there's other ones like the Jets beat Philly, and it's alright. That's a complete fluke. I think we would have said Jets Buffalo, but now that seems like, alright, yeah, now that makes sense. That first week. There was so much

money to be made from the Cardinals these last couple weeks, although they somehow miraculously covered it. Can I read you? This is to talk about quarterbacks. Mahomes, 15 touchdowns, 8 interceptions. Mahomes, 15 touchdowns, 8 interceptions. Russell Wilson, 16 touchdowns, 4 interceptions. How is that possible?

Wow. How the F is that possible? Our guy, Shio Kapati at The Ringer tweeted today, the Chiefs have played 102 games with Patrick Mahomes. Among that sample, today's offensive performance ranked last in EPA per drive. Then he said this season, the Chiefs

have had five games that rank 80th or lower among Mahomes' 102 starts. I think we're officially in the he doesn't have enough good weapons era this Chiefs season. I wanted a trade deadline Tuesday.

Kendrick Bourne, I didn't see if Kendrick, is Kendrick Bourne, did they get news on that knee injury he had? I didn't see anything on that. I thought he was a perfect Chiefs game. Well, they bring back McColl Hardman. He's going to be a great receiver. Then he botches that punt down 14-9. And to his credit, he said it was his fault. He did the thing where he touched

his chest. He's like, that's my bad. It's like, oh, okay. Well, yeah, you are alone. I wasn't sure who else is fault of this. You dropped the punt. Yeah, and then somebody else jumped on it. Oh, yeah. Kendrick Bourne, it looks like an MCL injury.

They'll know for sure tomorrow. Yeah, Hardman had the worst returner stretch of any half this season. He had the big fumble of the game that killed him. And then he had the next one. He ran backwards, got tackled for like a 10-yard loss. Then he had a kickoff return. He got tackled in like the 12.

It's like, thanks for coming back, McColl. Yeah, they couldn't start anything. They couldn't get anything started. Yeah, the Chiefs, we had that running joke for years and years of Chiefs are down 10, four minutes left, but they're minus 140

to win the game and it's like we should just bet this they're going to every time they come back did you feel like they were going to come back today because I did not I did yeah 14-9 getting the ball with that ball in the air yeah I just thought Denver would fold I've seen enough Denver I don't know I got swayed

by the 18 in a row however many they had beaten them. I'm like, all right, this is just going to continue. Is Denver a cross-off team for you? What are they at now? Three and five. Three and five. They have a bye week.

And then Monday night at Buffalo, home Minnesota, home Cleveland, at Houston, at Chargers, at Lions, home Pats, home Chargers, at Raiders. I don't see how they get to 10 wins. I think they're going to have to decide for us, right? I think, are they sellers is the question, right? Because if they get rid of Sertan and Jerry Judy, who's all of a sudden come to life, then they don't have a shot.

But looking at it on paper with that schedule you read, and I think the Chargers wouldn't be a cross-off, and they're what, three and four? So what, they're a half game behind Denver now? Denver's a half game behind? I say no cross-offs yet. I don't know how. I wanted to do cross-offs at a second

because the NFC is really hard because the seventh seed, we'll talk about that in one second. On the AFC side, the Jets are four and three. Crazy. And of that four and three, two overtime wins.

Three of the four wins are games where the other team's fan base after the game was like, I can't believe we fucking lost that game. Like, they've had three of the four wins are games where the other team's fan base after the game was like, I can't believe we fucking lost that game. They've had three of those, which I think leads the league. Today, they won the worst game of the year. One of the biggest affronts to professional football that we've had since... Everyone should apologize for that game.

From YouTube TV to Roger Goodell and on. Really bad. And yet the Jets are still kind of hanging around. So from a standing standpoint, if you look at the conference, we have four six-win teams and Buffalo's a five-win team. But then we have four four-win teams.

We have four four-and-three teams. Pittsburgh, Cleveland, the Jets, and the Bengals. And then Houston's three-and-four, and Tennessee's three-and-four, and the Chargers are 3-4. So this is, I don't think there's any way to predict this, but there might be a good long shot make the playoffs bet out of one of those 3-4 teams.

I think Houston is kind of rising to the surface now. Like they're just, you know, that Carolina game was pretty. That bummed me out. I went against the grain. I know everybody had the Panthers, and I just was like, no, this can't be. This new coordinator, this can't be the be-all, end-all. They'll have safeties out,

but there was no scoring in that one. Well, we said last week, I was talking about how I love the Texans, and after doing all the work, it just seemed like the line was off, and it really was a kitchen sink game for the Panthers. They took Bryce over Stroud. They're 0-6.

They don't have their own first-round pick. They're coming off a bye. If there's ever a week, you have to get one. It's that one. They made that kicker kick that field goal 17 times to win the game. They're like, no, no, no. We can't give you one more. Just do it again.

All right. So let's put, we'll put Casey in Miami and Jacksonville and Baltimore in there. Let's just put those four. I'm not ready to put Buffalo in yet. Definitely not Pittsburgh. Cleveland four and three. Can we talk about that game? That was my worst loss.

That was my new worst loss of the year. That one was? Because that game was over and fucking Stefanski, who does this twice a year, who can't help himself, who is the dumbest game management person in the league who still has a job.

It's third and three. The Seahawks haven't done anything for two fucking hours. The Browns defense has just completely shut them down. The game is done. Third and three, they're on like their own 40. It's under two minutes left. Seahawks have two timeouts. They're running the ball for like five yards a carry.

And it's like, you have to run the ball though. You just have to. Your quarterback is PJ Walker. You can't trust him to do anything. You just can't. Run the ball. Either you get the first down or they have to call timeout. You're going to punt. They're going to have the ball in their own 15 and they haven't done anything in two hours. Worst case scenario, they're going to come down and get a field goal. And instead they throw it. He throws it. It hits Jamal Adams' helmet, bounces up in the air. They get a pick. And then Seattle scores in like five seconds.

And I'm just sitting there like, I had the Browns plus three and a half. I'm like, what the hell just happened? I already counted the bet. This didn't have to be like this. Worst loss of the year. And yet I feel like there's like three games a week where you say, oh, if they had just run the ball down in the fourth quarter with four minutes left, it would have been over.

I feel like the Giants could have done that too on fourth and one. I know you were going red zone, but D'Abel kicks a field goal with fourth and one. No, it's raining. It's fourth and one. You got to just go for it. Just go forward there. A lot of these, I second guess a lot of them, but that one I didn't. I'm like, all right, I I'll reserve judgment and then I'll see

what Twitter says and I'll be on that side but no a lot of these guys like PJ Walker shouldn't be passing that freaking Tommy DeVito shouldn't have been like they should take it out of his hand and Barkley should have run it's an idea the giant thing's a good example because it's like who do you trust more a 35 year old field goal in the pouring rain or just getting a yard? And even if you don't get the yard, they're still trapped down there inside their 20 and whatever. And then the Browns thing, who do you trust more? My defense that has just completely dominated Seattle

for the last two hours or PJ Walker? Like, to me, that's no contest. I don't want PJ Walker deciding. He's the one that can lose me the game. But Stefanski, he did this last year too. What was that game? They were up 13? He does it with Nick Chubb. It doesn't matter who he has.

I have a solution, I think. I think we get rid of the Coach of the Year Award. I think it drives these guys crazy. They get egos and they're like, alright, I gotta do things more challenging because I already have this hard war where Dable won it, Stefanski won it a few years ago.

These are decent coaches. Maybe it should be Dumb Coach of the Year. They should have that one to balance that off because this was the dumbest. I just can't believe he had them throw the ball. I thought they would have gotten the first down if they ran it. The Seahawks were gassed. That would be a good ESPY award. Bonehead Play of the Year. I thought they would have gotten the first down if they ran it. The Seahawks were gassed.

That would be a good ESPY award. Bonehead play of the year. Do it. Coaches, players, athletes. Who's going to be the NFC 7 seed is the next question I had. So we got five playoff teams. Philly, Dallas, Detroit, San Francisco and Seattle.

I'm going to put all of them in. We have the NFC South as either Atlanta or New Orleans. They're both four and four. So that's six, tentatively seven if you just wanted to put both in. We have Minnesota at four and four who no longer has Kirk Cousins that we haven't even talked about yet. Kirk Cousins out for the year with an Achilles. An amazing year for him where he does that Netflix show.

Yeah, there's the Netflix show. Everybody likes him. He becomes the big winner from the show. Plays his best football. Kind of puts the team on his back. They lose Jefferson. Still playing great. He was great today

and then blows out his Achilles. Everybody feels bad. They're four and four. And then it goes Tampa Bay three and four. I don't like that team at all. Rams three and five. Looks like they're going to be,

you know, Stafford. What happened with him? What do we think? I don't know. I'd still be on x-ray tomorrow. We'll find out. Yeah.

Washington three and five. Then we go down to the green Bay two and five, Chicago two and five giants, two and six, Arizona one and seven, Carolina one and seven. I just listed all the NFC teams. So it looks like Atlanta or New Orleans.

Look, I guess I understand. I feel this is owner's malpractice. Like Mark Cuban S if the Vikings don't, don't go out and get either Colt McCoy or Cooper rush. And I honestly, I looked at the schedule and it's not just because I have the Vikings to make the playoffs, but I think they can

make it. They have to beat those teams you talked about. They have to beat out these crap NFC South teams. Now, I know they already lost to Tampa Bay in game one, but they're better than Tampa Bay. You don't mean to tell me like, Colt McCoy, we're going to put you in. You're going to get Justin Jefferson back and you're going to get Addison to throw

two and our defense is pretty solid. You have two awesome receivers. You got to get you in. You're going to get Justin Jefferson back and you're going to get Addison to throw to and our defense is pretty solid. You have two awesome receivers. Yeah. You got to get them some. They should get the seventh seed unless they stick with Mannion and the BYU kid you mentioned

and Hall. They have to get somebody. I think McCoy had three years with McConnell. Or O'Connell. They play at Atlanta next week. Home Saints at Denver.

Home Chicago at Vegas. I mean, they could win like four of those. They're at Cincy, home Detroit, home for Green Bay and at Detroit. So that end gets a little tough for them. But they could be like, they could be eight and five in a couple weeks. I would get Brissette.

That's another one. Brissette's fine. Here's a fifth rounder for Brissette. He's not playing for you anyway. That's fine. I think nine and eight gets you there, gets that seventh seed in the NFC. List those teams you listed.

Well, the question is, Atlanta or New Orleans, one of those won't win the NFC South. And could one of those teams go nine and eight? Yeah. I don't know about Atlanta. As you said, they're the Johnny Rods team this year, but I would say they're going the wrong direction. And the Saints are just like one week they'll look good, the next week they don't.

But at least they have Kamara playing really well. Olave, I think... I can't say Olave's jumping off the TVs. He had a big drop today in today's game. Their defense is good. If they could just get Carr to game management...

My money would be on Atlanta and New Orleans to make it, but I'm with you. I think Minnesota should try to get a quarterback for those guys. They have to. Really, it's like we don't see tanking by teams that can get the seventh seed. I'm not saying that even with the seventh seed, they're going to go into San Francisco and win or whatever it would be, but they have to try.

Let's take one more break. A couple more questions really quick. one more break. Couple more questions really quick. Exactly how many cross off teams do we have? Arizona one and seven. I'm crossing them off.

Good. Carolina one and seven. Pats two and six. It's over. What's the seven seed right now? What's the record of the seven seed? Ten wins is getting the seven seed right now? What's the record of the seven seed?

Ten wins is getting the seven seed. All right. Okay. All right. Crossing them off. Today was so discouraging. I don't even want to talk about it. Bears are two and five.

Crossing them off. And then it gets like Vegas if they lose tomorrow night, I think they're an official cross-off. They'd be 3-5, head in the wrong direction, probably a seller in two days. It's weird. I'm not ready to cross up Denver yet. I don't think you can cross off any of the other three-win teams. Did you say Packers or are you going to give them a shot at 2-5? I think Packers and Giants, I don't think you can cross off yet

because 8-9 might be the seventh seed. And the Giants' defense has been good now for, what, four straight weeks, three straight weeks, whatever. I actually think they're 2-6, but they should be 4-4. They should have beaten the Bills last week. They should have beaten the Jets today. Green Bay is going the wrong direction. I actually think LeFleur is in

first coach fired territory now. Don't you think? Yeah, I think he's one of three or four coaches right in there. I don't know. He might lead the league right now for there's a flag. A positive play has been called,

a positive play has been called back on offense or defense, followed by the shot of the confused coach in the sidelines. I think he's our league leader this year, Matt LaFleur. I like that. Just kind of like,

oh man, oh, that would have been a really good play. I can't believe we got another penalty. Belichick, by the way. Should that be an official stat? Like if you ever go to arbitration or have to keep your job, you're like, well, you have seven confused cutaways, according to Fox.

7.2 confused cutaways a game. There's four shots of you holding the flag like you want to throw it, the red challenge flag, but you're not sure. And then you would drop it by accident. I like that stat. AJ then, uh, then you would drop it by accident. I like that. AJ Brown or Tyreek for you. Receiver of the year.

Uh, we just gave it to Tyreek last week. We got, I got, we got to stick with Tyreek. I think I agree with you, but, uh, AJ Brown,

holy shit. It just gets me mad. Yeah. And then Julio Jones and buyer year, That's like the trade of the year. All those guys. Like when the Chiefs, the Tyreek trade, they knew that trade hurt, but there are real salary cap reasons.

But Tennessee, I mean, the dude already got fired. But man, that guy is... They've just figured out how to unleash him. I have him on multiple fantasy teams. In the league where we vote. The league that you and I are in where we vote out, where the champ gets to vote out somebody that I've not won since the magical 2007 season.

Wow. I have Jalen Hurts, Devonta Smith, AJ Brown, Jake Elliott, and the Eagles defense. What? You do? Yeah. Oh, man. Can I play you on there by? I kept starting

Devontae Smith because it was like one of these weeks he's going to catch one and he'd be dead. But I got 41 points out of the two Eagles receivers today. 30.5 out of Hertz. It's like the fantasy boon of all time. I know. I know. And yet I had a great moment with that

tush push failed. I was so excited. I was like, Joe House's commanders are going to pull it off. You know what it was like when that tush push failed? It was like when Chosen caught Daniel Sun's crane kick. I was like, yes, there's a defense to it. He feigned and then forced Danielson to mistime the crane kick and worked on his leg. That's what it was, except it didn't matter. They won. So I have a chance to win all three of my fantasy leagues. What's the most fantasy leagues you've won in a year? I won three, three years ago. Three out of eight.

Three out of eight. Yeah. I really think I can win our league and vote somebody out. So early. Ever since we've had the rule, I think I can win. I have Hertz. I have Kamara,

Etienne, Mostert. I have Goff as my backup QB. I have the two Philly receivers, Drake London, Christian Rotz, and Rashad. I have enough receivers.

Is that the one you want? Laporta for me? yeah I want to trade you Kittle for Laporta thank god I didn't Kittle had his huge day maybe we'll talk we'll do it I gotta mix things up the other league we're in the keeper league I was owned four

and now I'm on pace to win my fourth straight fantasies made me so unhappy it's so nice to just have good fantasy teams I really feel like uplifted and now I'm on pace to win my fourth straight. Fantasy's made me so unhappy. It's so nice to just have good fantasy teams. I really feel uplifted. It's really positive. What time do you check your scores? I check them a bunch

because the gambling has not gone well this year. So I like the fantasy at least makes me feel good. Then the gambling makes me feel bad. I feel like I check it in the first quarter of the night game. Obviously I check it for lineups and I'll check it Thursday night and everything. But Sunday, I just, um,

maybe it's cause I'm not doing well in fantasy. Well, you're trying to watch, you're watching the fucking eight box. I know. You're watching eight games. You're psycho. Um,

all right. So Tyreek still has the title. And then last, last question is, uh, I, now I'm bummed out that the Pats won last week. What? If the Pats hadn't won last week,

they would be in pole position now for a top pick. Now they still have two wins, but they kind of fooled all of us because the defense is pretty good. And they can run the ball. And the offensive line was actually okay. But Mac is so bad. It's just like they're just

dead on arrival. You played a better team. The Dolphins are better. They're better than you. We were hanging with them, man. I know. It was 24-10 for like an hour and a half. But we had it. If we could have gone in 14-10 or 14-14 halftime,

I feel like we could have taken them. Now I want them to tank. I mean, you're going to want them to tank and then you're going to end up drafting a Tommy DeVito and you're going to be like,

what the hell happened here? Tommy DeVito's brother, Frank DeVito. Yeah. That was the most discouraging Mac game yet. It really was. Really? Yeah, it was bad. He was bad. What about

against the Cowboys? I'm insulted by that. He was awful against the Cowboys. Yeah, but you have a good defense. Miami has a couple good guys on defense, but I wouldn't say they have a good defense. We were running the ball on them.

Speaking of defenses, by the way, the Eagles gave up 472 yards and 26 first downs to Washington. I don't know what's going on with them. I don't think they sacked them either. That guy's taken 40 sacks this year. That was the big thing. They couldn't get to him. That was a weird one because that's one where it really felt

like Washington could have won that game. It came down to like, A.J. Brown made two fucking crazy catches and Howell had a turnover at the worst possible time, but they were definitely in the house. I know. So close. All right. Week nine.

Guess the lines. I won the last two weeks. Yeah. I don't like what's happening here. It's four, two, and two. Is that right? Yeah. Four, two, and two. You have four wins. I have two. Yeah, I don't like what's happening here. It's 4-2-2. Is that right? Yeah, 4-2-2.

You have 4-1-5-2. Thursday night is Steelers and the Titans. What's the deal with Pickett? Do we have any? I don't even know if that affects the line. Pickett or Trubisky? I don't think it moves the line at all, honestly. It feels like it should move it a little bit because Trubisky, it's just sadness.

I disagree. It's just sadness. I'll go the other way. You're making fun of my draft pick. I don't like that. I have, this is in Pittsburgh and I have the Steelers by two and a half.

I had that exact, oh no, I had three and a half. You got it because it's two and a half. Okay. I think that's the right line because the Thursday night Titans coming off of emotional home underdog win. Will Levis

72 hours of everybody blowing smoke up his butt and now all of a sudden you're playing again on a Thursday night. Barely enough time to prepare. Steelers defense is good. Yeah. I just it's just so uninspiring. Don't bet this game, everybody. No, but listen, and I can't even get

mad at the schedule makers because someone sent me something like, did you see week 10 Thursday night as Bears-Panthers? I'm like, yeah, there's just not enough solid quarterbacks anymore. What are they supposed to do? We did that first year at Grantland in 2011. We had the bad quarterback

league we started with the fantasy league with points for all the different things. Cause the QBs are bad that year. You gotta go back. You gotta go back. Go see if that was worse than this. Cause this, this really feels bad. We got a Germany game on Sunday.

Chiefs to offense. Somehow the best game of the week. And it's being played in Germany. Maybe Mahomes will recover from the virus that Taylor Swift gave him. This will be the most watched first quarter of an overseas game, right? People will wake up. They're not going to miss Tua against Patrick Mahomes' first quarter. On the west coast, they are up at 630.

Great gambling game. A lot of fantasy guys. I would say this is probably the best overseas game we've had. Oh, yeah. Because usually it's Jacksonville or it's a good team against a bad team. This is like... This is the two best AFC teams, right? For sure. Yeah.

Yeah, I don't think anything even compares. I guess Baltimore, two of the three best AFC teams. So, I couldn't, I put this in the tic-tac-son. I have Chiefs by one and a half. All right, I got this.

Even though John Jastrzemski keeps doing this, he keeps, we're on this text chain, he keeps sending us these lines ahead of time, and I give him a thumbs down I'm like we do this as a podcast guess the lines you know what's funny

I missed when he did that but I saw your reaction so I didn't scroll up to see what his thing was so I didn't see it yeah well this is going to

seem suspicious but he said it was three and I was like I think it's two and a half it is two and a half Kansas City favored by two and a half so I get that

fucking JJ what's wrong with that guy? Chiefs 2.5. I don't know. I don't know. I don't like what Mahomes is doing here. Well, I don't bet on the Thursday night games, and I don't bet on the foreign soil games.

So I'm going to be staying away from this one. Is Tay-Tay going to Germany? Maybe. Dolphins and a tease looks pretty appetizing. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We hit Tua

a couple times today. Like, there was a couple where I was like, uh-oh. Then he just got up. But we, I thought, I thought that Pat Stee was good today. He's not as elusive as he should be, I think.

Right? When that pocket crumbles, he gets swallowed up. He's good at moving up. Whereas if the pressure's on the outsides, he's good at immediately recognizing it and taking off. But I agree with you. Sunday marquee game, another great one. Eagles home for the Cowboys.

You know, I did a preliminary guess the lines before I watched all the games. I did it this morning as I was watching Wise Guys. Yeah. Okay. And then I ended up bumping this down by an entire point. Initially, I had Eagles minus four.

But after watching the action today, I moved it to Eagles minus three. Are you going to get it? I said three and a half, and it's two and a half. And that's too low. That's not right. Yeah, but it's like what we said before. Washington took it to the Eagles today. So if you're thinking like Dallas is a better version of Washington.

And we also, we know that the home field isn't three points anymore. It's, what is it, two? It's probably two, but they're better. They're at least, I mean, you should be right at least. It should be three. There should be a point better and then add the two. That place is going to be a zoo. Don't go soft on me. You can beat this team.

Don't start making excuses. Not falling for it. We didn't even talk about the Cowboys. They crushed the Rams. I watched none of that game. Really? Once you went up, I was like... Because it wasn't in the YouTube TV package. It was in the...

It screwed things up out here. Yeah, because it was blacked out. It wasn't in the Sunday ticket. So it was either I had to use a TV on cable or I was just like, fuck it. And then you took a big lead. I got excited when I was 33-17. I thought about pulling it back.

But then... So yeah, were you happy with how you looked? I loved it. a big lead. I got excited when it was 33-17. I thought about pulling it back. Were you happy with how you looked? I loved it. I loved every minute of it. There's always something. I would have liked to see a big Pollard game, but we didn't get there. We saw a big Dak game, so it's great for his confidence. He threw four touchdowns, but I was most upset because I got boned on

a same-game parlay that I gave out on Fandel under 61.5 points and McVay kicks a field goal down 43-17. I don't know what the hell he's doing. And it wasn't like 4th and 20. It was like 4th and 6th. Anyway, but still good. 43-20. That's a fun game. The only thing that would worry me is I'm not sure I've seen the Eagles play a really good game yet. They keep winning these games where it's like they're either Milton Berling it or it's a game where some good stuff happened. But then this also happened.

And what does this mean? Or somebody got hurt. But you could beat them for two and a half quarters and still lose. I feel like every team, not every team has done this, but a lot of teams have had them on the ropes and you know and especially like on the road and stuff and they just they just rise up

I don't know it seems like you can run on the corners of them and it seems like you can throw on the over the middle on them that's from all the Eagles games like Brian Robinson

a couple times just ripping around the corners of them and they just seem a little slow on the linebackers, would be my take. The Ringer Philly special guys would know way more than me.

I thought Washington was really comfortable offensively against them. You have a better offensive dial than Washington does. I only have one watchables. Seattle, Baltimore? Yeah, Raven Seahawks. Excellent game. On the one hand,

great win by Seattle, right? They got the turnover. And then they had the game-winning drive. I guess I got to divorce the pain of how terrible that Cleveland loss was. That's a nice win for Seattle. They started out strong. They had 14 pretty

quickly. And then just started getting their asses kicked. But Raleigh back and won. Gino, who I think has been pretty spotty this year, but he at least rose to the occasion. He has a good lead. I think that's the second time in three weeks he's had

two touchdowns in the first half. Then he just lets the teams back in. I feel like they should be better than they actually are, even though their record is solid. So this would be a nice little test for the Seahawks coming off an emotional win, going to Baltimore.

Baltimore. So my theory hit again. Team that played the best game of the week, not covering the following week. It's undefeated this year. Of course, I didn't bet on it. I have the Ravens

by three and a half over the Seahawks. This is weird. I had that same number. It opened four and a half and it's now five and a half. Numbers don't usually go up a point

between the halftime of the Sunday night game and when we do this. Could someone be hurt? Gino's not hurt, right? It would only have to be a quarterback. Anyway, we split it. Do people like Baltimore? Just in general? I promise you Joe House is going to tease the Seahawks.

He doesn't have to tease it. He's on fire with his underdog picks outright. Really good. Fairly watchables. I got two games. But just for the record, we have a six-game poop effect to people listening. Yeah.

Fairly watchables. Falcons, Vikings, I just think is fairly watchable. I don't know who's playing quarterback for the Vikings, the Falcons, every game they're in is kind of riveting for whatever reason and

I'm going to say the Falcons by 3.5 you nailed it yeah, this is riveting because these are the 7 seeds we talked about potentially, right? it's exactly 3.5, I said 4.5 it feels like the Falcons are favored every week. Yeah. And probably have covered two of the times.

We'll see. We'll see what the Vikings do with the trade deadline coming up. Packers, Rams, I have as the other fairly watchable. And I don't even know why I put it in the fairly watchable, but it feels like kind of a loser leaves town match. Yeah, maybe. Rams go three and six.

That's probably they're done. Packers go two and six. They're done. Maybe LeFleur will be done tomorrow for all we know, but if they go two and six, I wonder what happens to him. I have Packers by two. Yeah, that's what I had. It is two and a half.

Oh, wow. Staying away. Yeah. Staying far away. I fucking hate these lines. There's a lot of two and a half. But it was like three, six, seven, and ten. Those are three two and a halves we have now.

Kansas City. Stupid. Rams and Dallas Philly. Just makes it. And then they lower the underdog money line price which they never used to do right so you can be like oh I like the Rams plus two and a half

that does me nothing yeah or I can bet the money line at plus 118 great thanks just like you just effed poopfecta whoa where do we begin how about Pats Washington in New England it's a good one I think the Pats

are going to be favored because the public because of the Belichick thing Belichick versus Ron Rivera it's a kitchen sink game for the Pats like the two and seven

this season's probably over anyway but I have a tic-tac-toe Pats one and a half I got it it's two and a half so that. Pat's one and a half. I got it. It's two and a half. So that's our fourth two and a half now. That's stupid. If you want to change any of the ones coming up, because there may or may not be another two and a half in there.

I have another two and a half coming up. All right. So that's stupid. Washington will probably win. Washington, they stink Washington will probably win I'll be interested to see Washington They stink on the road too But they went to They couldn't score more than seven Against the Giants last week The Pats are going to make

A couple trades Like they They Didn't play Uche today Which is weird Because he's a good pass rusher So that I'm guessing they're going to trade him

This is the final year of the contract There's buzz that they might trade One of the safeties They're going to maybe him. This is the final year of the contract. There's buzz that they might trade one of the safeties. They're going to maybe trade Kendrick Bourne, but they got hurt. You'd be very upset with me if you knew how much I put on the Pats over five and a half wins when we got off the call last week. I really still like that. And this has to come through for that to win.

Browns are home for the Arizona Cardinals. The Josh Dobbs revenge game. Oh yeah, that's right. I mean, they kept PJ Walker and traded Josh Dobbs. Josh Dobbs is probably better than PJ Walker. And they already named him starter, right? They said Kyler's not

no go for this game, right? Yep. I was bad on him doing six and a half or seven for this game, right? Yep. I was bad on him doing six and a half or seven for this. I'm going to say Brown six and a half. Yeah, don't give it

too much thought because you got me beat. I said five and a half. It is seven and a half. Oh, that's too high. That is too high, right? There's got to be some gambling row.

P.J. Walker cannot be favored by more than seven. I mean, this Watson thing is nuts. We were talking about this two weeks ago that we thought something was fishy about this. He's got to rest. Just let him rest.

Why can't he rest a little bit? Is this the worst guaranteed contract? This is like James Harden stuff. I mean, the NBA has two of these a year. Yeah. Yeah. Football-wise. You got James Harden who's like,

you know, who's getting paid $35 million a year and hasn't played yet for reasons that remain unclear because he doesn't like the GM. Right. And he's going to come to practice today. It's like, cool.

He's getting paid like $700,000 a week. Well, they won't let him on the plane. How long before they'd stop letting Deshaun Watson board the plane, the team plane? Is that coming up? I mean, this could snowball. There's a chance we don't see him play for the Browns again. I actually thought of the James Harden team today

that they should trade him to after watching Wemby. He should just go to San Antonio. No, he could just, he would only play six months a year. He wouldn't have to San Antonio. No, he could just he would only play six months a year. He wouldn't have to deal with the playoffs. Right? Because he sucks in the playoffs. So he'd just be regular season only. He'd have the ball all the time. He'd be able to throw Wemby all these alley-oops.

He'd get his full $35 million. They'll give him an extension. Six months a year. He could have the other six months a year off because the guy doesn't care about anything. And I think that's the team. It's good. You can lead the league and assist again. It'd be great for him and Wemby. He'll take Wemby under his wing, teach him how to champagne and campaign. By the way, this Cleveland game, 80% of

people left in eliminator pools are going to have the Browns and PJ Walker just to advance. Oh, Jesus. Right? I mean, look at these other numbers. I'm in one where I took the Lions this week. Should be safe. I'm still alive in week eight, but I've used up a lot of good teams.

It's about to get hairy. Do you ever do a thing where like, oh, it's such a square teaser between the Chargers and the Lions, the two night games. That's so square. I'm not doing it. But then when the Chiefs lost, I'm like, this is how I think. I said, oh, the NFL is done screwing the Gamblers for the week. So I am going to do that teaser, Chargers-Lions. But now we'll see what happens with these.

We always text each other on Sundays about what's the fixed game of the day. And the Chiefs game pretty early was like, oh, this one's fixed. Somebody food poisoned my homes the night before and all these dumb turnovers. And there were flags getting picked up and all kinds of dumb shit. Yeah, they can't hold on to the ball. They've beaten them 18 times in a row.

There's no snow. All kinds of nonsense. Russell Wilson looked confident. Next poop fact is Saints-Bears in in New Orleans I don't want to spend any time in this game at all but I'm going to say Saints by six and a half so that too it's five and a half what's the score right now

it is one two three four five seven two five bad guys you're winning Texans Bucks in Houston Bad guys. You're winning. Okay. Texans, Bucks. In Houston. I had, I wrote two and a half or three next to this. I'm going to say Texans by two and a half.

You get it. Another two and a half. I said one. So you got that. So that's one, two, three, four, five, six, two and a half. I said one. So you got that. So that's one, two, three, four, five, six, two and a half. This is the dumbest. I might shut down the gambling.

I might shut down everything. That's it? You shut it down? So stupid. Joe House is winning money every week. This is the worst gambler ever. He's just crushing. Joe House is crushing. It's time. Joe House. crushing it's time Joe House bet the house

Colts at Panthers and I don't think anything has ever wreaked a tic-tac like this game I'm going to just go with the Colts minus one I'm not even giving it the half Colts minus one. I'm not even giving it the half.

Colts minus one in Carolina. No, you beat me up this week. I said three, and it's one and a half. But why isn't it three? Carolina barely beat the Texans, and the Texans were favored by three and a half. Why shouldn't the Colts give them three? They're about the same.

So I'm going to give you your answer right now. It should be higher. Yeah. Carolina, today was only their third game at home. They played the Saints week two, 2017. Lost. They got a cheap touchdown at the end. Vikings, 21.

Panthers, 13. That was... And then today, Panthers,. And then today, Panthers 15, Texans 13. So defense is better at home for some reason. Lower scoring games. Minshew on the road against a Carolina defense that looked okay today. I'd probably take Panthers. You don't think they reverse 72 Dolphins it

Where they're popping champagne All week Because they won their first game And it's like Alright so this The Means a little less Every week forward

Them not having a pick I think makes me look at them A tiny bit differently Because I just don't feel like I think some of these teams Will start rolling over But I don't see why they would Plus

Who knows with Reich Like I don't know That guy Tepper He fired Matt Rule pretty fast Like he You know Reich's going to be Trying to win see why they would. Plus, who knows with Reich? I don't know. That guy Tepper, he fired Matt Rule pretty fast. Reich's going to be trying to win. I kind of like the Panthers in this spot. The Colts, though, the

fact that they're scoring points with Minshew every week is nuts. This weird team they have of this Taylor-Zach Moss running back combo. Zach Moss is one of the best fantasy running backs this year. Did you see that in the rankings? Yeah, I saw it.

And then Josh Downs. These guys I've never heard of. All right, last one. No one even took Gardner. We probably could have gotten five more quarterbacks before anyone took Minshew. It's crazy. Career backup.

Raiders Giants is the last one. It's in Vegas. So what's the deal with Tyrod? I mean, Tyrod getting hurt and having to go to the hospital was the lock of the year. You knew it was going to happen at some point in October. He took it to the last weekend, but he finally got hurt. 34 years old, he always gets hurt. It's his ribs, but the way I see it is either they know he's back or there shouldn't be a line on this game.

Like, I don't care. Danny DeVito can't throw a forward pass. What's his name? Tommy? Danny? Might as well be Danny. How do they have a line on this if they don't know Tyrod's playing? He's got busted ribs.

I'm just going to go Raiders three. You'd probably be wrong. Oh, see, I said seven because I thought it was going to be Danny DeVito. It's five and a half. So I guess I get that one. That's an awful game. Is this a spend time with the family weekend potentially?

You get that Chiefs to offense game and then skip all the early games and then come back for Cowboys-Eagles? Could be a take-the-wife-to-brunch kind of night or day. It would be strange to go to the pumpkin patch five days after Halloween, but yeah, it might still be worth it. Last week was the pumpkin patch week.

Sunday night, Bengals-Bills in Cincinnati. Did Cincinnati, was that the winner this week of best game of the week? Oh, the most dominant? Yeah. Who was the best performance this week? Let's see. Cowboys?

I don't know. That was against the Rams. I know. The Bengals are the smoke team this week. Yeah. So I'm flagging that. I'm going to say Bengals by two and a half. I said one and a half.

It is one and a half. It's exactly TikTok. I don't want to get morbid here, but is this weird that this is a night game? It is weird that they did that. It's not Monday night, but it's I agree with you.

I mean, he's good. He's not Monday night, but it's I agree with you. I mean, he's good. He's fine. Thumbs down on the scheduling. Maybe we would have made that a late game. Did I win already or am I up one? Yeah, you got it. You're up by at least two. Alright, Monday night, Chargers-Jets. You already know

how this is going to play out. The Jets are going to somehow win. It's going to be unbelievable. I Jets are going to somehow win. It's going to be unbelievable. I have no idea how it will happen. There will be coaching malpractice. Herbert will throw some sort of terrible play. The Jets will have some lucky play and the Jets will be 5-3.

I have the Chargers in the Tic Tac Zone 1.5 over the Jets. I had that as well and it's 1. I mean, every spread is either one, one and a half, or two and a half. Every single spread. This is what happens in the year of our Lord Joe House. Just dumb lines and underdog bets

winning and him out of a roll. The House never wins except for 2023. I love it. Jets on a teaser might be the way to go. Plus seven. Seven and a half. You can get it. Before we go to parent corner, can we talk about Nganou and Fury really quick? My son was all fired up about this, so we got it.

First of all, I thought Francis won, but I wasn't super upset about the decision because the champ, you really have to beat the champ. And even though I felt like he beat him, it was close enough that I wasn't surprised. But what did surprise me was at age 37, never having done this before, he really looked like a boxer. I felt like he looked like Ernie Shavers or somebody from people we grew up with. I was really impressed. Fury looked bad, but he was so ring savvy of being able to just kind of steal rounds

and do just enough to steal the 50-50 rounds. And that was ultimately why Francis lost. But I was so impressed. I mean, he was like plus what? 800 on FanDuel to win? It was minus 1400 midweek and went to like minus 2400. And yeah, he was plus 800

and all these other numbers. And it's, I mean, by decision or by split decision, I mean, I don't know he lost, but split decision would have been insane. He lost by one point on the third card. And he won the, right. And he knocked him down.

So you felt it was 7-5? It would have to be 7-5 with the knockdown. Or no, it was 10 rounds. It would have to be... It was 10 rounds. 6-4. Right. I thought he won more than...

I thought he won more than four rounds. Yeah. So the problem is, this is where boxing gets frustrating I thought he won more than four rounds. Yeah. So the problem is this is where boxing gets frustrating because Fury got beaten up in that fight. He really did. I thought he took most of the punishment. I don't really feel like he ever really totally hurt Ngannou at all. But he kept it moving, did just enough.

And I get it, but there's no, you know, kept it moving, did just enough and I get it, but, um, he was never in trouble. Good about it. Yeah. He was never in trouble. Never in trouble. Yeah. So, but he almost like he wasn't ring savvy enough to realize like, oh, if I just throw some punches here for 20 seconds, I could steal this round.

That's like the piece that he was missing. But I, I thought it was an incredible moment for MMA. And then, you know, a lot of people made this point, Ariel and those guys did a ringer MMA show, but like just a huge miss for UFC, like to screw up the relationship with him and then have this fight happen. And now clearly he, you know,

now he's in that other league. He's got momentum from that. He can still dip into the boxing, but, um, I would, wouldn't you pay to watch him in another fight? I would. Well, let me tell you what I did because I'm an idiot. I'm the big loser in this fight. I paid the $90 or whatever.

Now I had youth sports going on and then we had our cousin's father's birthday thing on the beach. So I have to me, I'm going to have to watch this thing on my phone. So I paid the $90, except there were fricking two hours between the co-main event and the main event. There was so much dancing and singing. I was so frustrated.

So I put my phone in my back pocket and forgot about the damn fight because every time I checked in, somebody else was singing a different anthem or a different this or that. And I forgot about it. Now I have to rely on people like you and whatever I read. But yes, I would pay and make sure I watched it next time. Fury has such a weird legacy. Yeah.

He wasn't in any shape, right? But was it a lot different than what we've seen him? But he never seems like he's in shape. He's one of those guys, he always seems like he needs to lose 25 pounds. And he's such a hard guy to fight. That was about as well as I've seen somebody take it to him. I think you're right about the legacy because what is it really? He beat Klitschko, right?

When an aging Klitschko and then just had these wars with Wilder. Who might not have even mattered as a boxer really. And this guy felt like 50 pounds heavier than Wilder. Who might not have even mattered as a boxer, really. You know? And this guy felt like 50 pounds heavier than Wilder. Right. But I do like him. I think he's been a fun character for boxing. I do, too.

But ultimately, like, I don't know. It was not a good look for him. He probably got bored waiting three hours to make his ring entrance and then didn't know what to do. All right. Let's do some Parent Corner. We're supported by NFL Sunday Ticket

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I'm not even sure if I should tell this story, but I'm going for it here. I think I could tell this story. So my son is a freshman on the wrestling team, and I wrestled, and wrestling is the greatest, and it's the worst. It's a grueling sport, but there's no one to blame, right? It's one-on-one. You can't blame the weather ever or the refs most of the time, but it's no one to blame. It's one-on-one. You can't blame the weather ever or the refs most of the time, but it's also

oddly one of the best team sports and teaches insane discipline. If you get the right coach, it's similar to sending your kid to the Army. There's camps and there's off-season tournaments and stuff. We have a hard-ass coach and he's really good and he's funny, but he's not

letting anyone get away with anything so if like you talk during practice you're running laps or you're doing like sprawls um the whole for like an hour and so one kid uh they think it was a kid on the wrestling team left half of a vape pen the remainder of a vape pen in the wrestling room. And so the coach is like, who did this? And no one owned up to it, right? It's like a 90210 episode. Exactly. Somebody's got owned up or the whole team gets punished.

That's it. And he's like, nobody owns up. It's a thousand sprawls. Now, you know what a sprawl, a sprawl is like a burpee, basically. Yeah. And a thousand takes probably an hour, maybe a little less than an hour. A thousand of anything. Horrible. And you're just going to beat the shit out of all these kids. And so I think they met

and they had an inkling about who did it. And of course the kid denied it and everything. And they come back the next day and coach is like, all right, who did it? And nobody said anything. And they're like, all right, I'm going to give you one more day. So today you're going to run three and a half miles. So they run three and a half miles. And that takes a long time too. Right. This is after practice, by the way. And so Friday comes and they're like, this is the day. And finally the kid that they thought did it stepped up. And because they all think like, all right, if we admit it, we're going to get kicked off the team. Right. But the kid steps up and he's like, coach, I just have to say, I learned from my mistake

and I'm never going to do it again. And wrestling has taught me that there's more important things than vaping. And so I'm done vaping and I apologize to the team. And the coach bought it. And I think he's like, all right, each of the seniors gets to slam you. And then we're going to move on from this and never speak of it again. And that was it. So they all, all the seniors like firemen's carried them and slammed them. It's really nuts. I hope I don't get anyone in trouble, but I'm going to say I defend, I like this coach.

I like the way this, I like what he did here. My wife, maybe not as big a fan of what went on, but I think it was handled perfectly. What do you think? It's great. I love the whole team gets punished. the person doesn't come forward move.

Yeah. One of the best. Right. Because then it really turns into Lord of the Flies. Yeah. And my son was freaking out. And I'm like, well, maybe you just admit that you did it. He's like, but I didn't do it.

I'm like, I know. But a thousand sprawls is a thousand. That's a lot. But so anyway, it's a nice story, man. That's a good one. I'm going to hold off on football stories. Okay. Because I will get in trouble.

I had two small ones. I'll combine them. I don't hear from my daughter anymore. And now it's to the point that I just think this is how it's going to go for the rest of my life unless she needs me for something. She now talks to my wife by text or phone way more. And I don't really know what my role is anymore. And I just wish I had more kids. I think you did it right with the three. It was a complete accident, but thank you. No, I think

it was a smart move. I wish I had a third kid. Maybe I should adopt a kid, but yeah. I guess this is... Do you think you've earned more of a chat or call relationship because you've gone to Sears so much? And you have. Commendable. I'm not going anymore.

I'm done. This is ridiculous. Bad job. I'm not going anymore. Oh no. This is ridiculous. Bad job. That's not right. It's just kind of funny. You'll probably go through with Archie as he gets his legs under him in college where they're just like

we become our parents like you talked about the other day. But in now this way where it's like, you know, we feel like, like my mom always gets mad when I don't call her for a couple of days. Right. And then you get,

how did you do it in college? Did you, did you call them in college? Was it like Sunday? I wanted to talk to my parents in college. And that was what my wife was saying. It was like, they don't want to talk to us.

Of course. They're doing their thing. And I'm like, yeah, but all the time we spent together, it's just sad. I would make it like, I was like, you know, my wife's like,

well, how about he calls us every Sunday night? I'm like, yeah, but then he's going to dread every Sunday night. I wish he would just like know to call or text like on a Tuesday or whatever. And then it doesn't have to be a scheduled time. Yeah. She talks to her mother on Monday. She hates it.

Yeah. So, I don't know. You're right. So, now I have to tell dog stories because- I know. I noticed. This will be three in a row. Well, so, you know, Willie is still staying with us.

The dog we gave to my wife's mom. And, you know, there's some alpha stuff with him and Murph. Murph, the dog from hell, has his own Instagram. But they get along for the most part, and they've been buddies. But the other day, yesterday, Willie was eating. He woke up late, so he was eating after.

So my wife fed him, and she wasn't paying attention. And Murph, dumb Murph, wandered over as Willie was eating. And then all of a sudden she wasn't paying attention to Murph. Dumb Murph wandered over as Willie was eating. And then all of a sudden they had like a pseudo dog fight. And it was like, those dog fights, they're like, you know, like basketball fights. Like nobody's really, there's no punches thrown. Everybody's just waiting to get separated, but there's a lot of barking and yapping. And my wife got really mad at Murph and she like whacked Murph and she's like, how Murphy put him outside until Willie finished and like really yelled at him. So like an hour passes and I'm watching, um, I'm sitting on the couch and I'm with Willie. And then all of a sudden I hear my wife screaming. Murph went upstairs, went into my wife's bathroom. Oh, no. And just dumped all over, all over. Just like an eight-parter.

Right after he'd been outside. Just the ultimate spite shit. Not so dumb Murph. Yeah. Oh, my God. It was the spightiest spite shit I've ever seen in my life. And he's taken a bunch. Like, this is not his first one.

But just big, giant shit. He's taken a bunch. This is not his first one. But just big giant shit. That's great. And that's what's going on with our dogs. Just spite shits and a lot of jockeying about who gets to go on the bed first at night with us and then the other one. It's just a lot of alpha

stuff right now. I think that's great. You do have kids. It's just going to be sad when dumb Murph forgets to call you in a couple of years. You're going to freak out. I'm going to feel sad when he's not spite-shitting in a bathroom. Yeah. All right, that's it for Parent Corner.

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a lot of stuff to gamble on. You guys are covering it on against all odds. You got Cousin Sal's winning weekend. Yeah. Does anyone care about the World Series?

Well, I do because I have Texas. I went with your league this time. Smart. Just went with the offense. They went on the road and the offense, but that to come back from what they did in game one, that home run. That game was awesome. And a young

team like Arizona doesn't faze them at all and come out and they blow Texas, the doors off the place in Texas. Now I'm a little nervous. I watch it. You're going to watch, right? There's no,

I've been enjoying it. I just, I just think that world series is such a weird relationship to culture. It might just be everyone in my life. And like, like my son, they ran, he was watching football with me today.

They ran an ad for game three. And he goes, the World Series is happening? Wow. And I'm like, what do you mean? He's like, the World Series is happening right now? And I'm like, yeah, Arizona and Texas. He's like, I had no idea. But he knew every UFC MMA thing. I worry that that's... What happens when that generation is like 30. I don't know what they're going to do. It's not good. And it's not even 30. Our friend Doug DeLuca asked our other friend, John Blundell, for a ticket, Dodger tickets the other day. And he's like, sure.

You understand they're not going to play again until April, right? Yeah. Oh, okay. So and Doug is not anywhere near 30. So, yeah, you're right. I actually, hearing that story, I actually think Blundell fucked that up and should have been like, hey, I got Tuesday night.

Right. Doug out of the club. Game three, where do I send the tickets and really go on the whole and see how far I could go. See how far anyone goes, yeah. Felt like a wasted opportunity. No, I'm excited for the

I'm excited for this World Series, but I also like I just wish the road had been a little harder for Arizona. They shouldn't have gotten a home game until the NLCS. Yeah. If you're the lowest seed, it should be like first three, that first series,

no home games. I know, but they did it all on the road anyway. They beat Philly the last two. no home games I know but they did it all on the road anyway no home games I know I know I know I get it it's just

feels more March Madness than ever look at Bill I am going to tell you right now if the Diamondbacks come back and win this series I am retiring you write

you write that down right now nephew Kyle write it down my mom gave me this picture of my but speaking of. My mom gave me this picture of my buddy. Speaking of the baseball, the different generations, this picture of my buddy Gus, who you know.

Yeah. In my basement, sometime in the mid-80s, wearing a tank top, turning around with a thumbs up. He's in front of my Apple computer. I should just post this on Instagram. And microleague is on the screen because we were playing Mets versus Red Sox micro league I was trying to make out the lineup it looked like he had strawberry batting seventh and

Hernandez and we used to just he would come over and we would watch baseball and play micro league for this computer baseball game for hours and I'd like who's doing that now nobody it's so maybe it's a good thing. No, it's not a good thing. I wish baseball would be... Baseball is such a good sport.

I wish it would come back into the populace. I think the product is great. Pitch Clock has been really fun to watch. The Texas run has been really fun. This was a good year. I'm going to post that. As always, good job by you. Good job by you, Belly! Alright, that's going to post that. All right. Cuz, as always, good job by you.

Good job by you, Belly. All right. That's it for the podcast. Thanks to Kyle Creighton and Steve Cerruti. Thanks to Cousin Sal. As always, I will be back on this feed on Tuesday. Don't forget, new Rewatchables coming on Monday night. Keep an eye out for the Prestige TV podcast this week.

We're going to do something with Matthew Perry. So stay tuned for that. RIP Matthew Perry. I'll see you in the speed on Tuesday. I don't have feelings within. On the wayside, I'm a bruised soul. I never was and I don't have feelings. Must be 21 plus in president select states.

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