The Bill Simmons Podcast - Round 1 Winners (Da Bears!) and Losers (the Eagles!), Plus Guess the Lines With Cousin Sal

Episode Date: January 12, 2026

The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Cousin Sal LIVE on Netflix after the Patriots' win over the Chargers to recap the wild-card round of the NFL playoffs (3:25). Then, they guess the lines for the divisional round before ending with Parent Corner (01:11:46). Host: Bill Simmons Guest: Cousin Sal Producers: Chia Hao Tat and Eduardo Ocampo This episode is brought to you by Apple Watch. Find out more at apple.com/apple-watch-series-11 The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit⁠⁠⁠ www.rg-help.com⁠⁠⁠ to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Bill Simmons podcast is presented by Fandual Sportsbook. We're also brought to you by the Ringer podcast Network. Normally I have a rewatchable is coming for you every Monday, but we pushed it to Tuesday this week. It is going to be what lies beneath with Michelle Pfeiffer and Harrison Ford. We pushed it to Tuesday because I'm going to have another podcast on Monday night. Sal's coming up in a second. We're going to break down Wild Card weekend, some crazy games.

The Pats pulling it off for my sister. on a Sunday night. We're going to talk about all of that stuff, but we have to come back tomorrow after Steelers, Texans, to break down that game and then do the last guest align. So you'll see what happens later in the podcast, who's winning. So the schedule this week, Sunday night, Monday night, Wednesday, and then Thursday.

So four podcasts this week, and it's a special week because this is the first week. This is the first podcast, actually, where our video is. was actually on Netflix as well as on Spotify. And you can get the podcast wherever you get it. But video stays on Spotify, but we moved the video. Over to Netflix, we went live on Netflix. We were the first podcast that they launched with. They're launched a whole set of podcasts this week,

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The first podcast ever on Netflix. and we're bringing it to you. I'm Bill Simmons. That's Cousin Sal. We wanted the Netflix fans to really understand what a podcast was. He's wearing a hat.

I'm wearing a hoodie. I don't have makeup on. You could probably count my whiskers in 4K HD. And I'm deliriously happy because my Patriots just won, so we did it. I don't think people understand

what's about to happen, but you should everyone just buckle up for the most insufferable 90 minutes in Netflix history. I mean, did James Gordon have a Netflix special? No, he didn't. I think we might be able to take the record. How about this?

I'm going to zag on you. I'm not going to start by talking about the Sunday Day Pats game because that was the worst of all the games. Maybe you'll forget about it. Let me give you three storylines from the weekend. And you tell me which one mattered the most that we're now moving forward into round two. Josh Allen against the world. Caleb and the Never Say Die Bears or San Francisco going for the nobody believes in us all decade, because literally nobody believes in them.

Out of those three, what do you care about the most? The Bears, I think, is the mediest. The Bears, interesting. Okay, explain. Well, it's just so improbable that it keeps happening the same freaking thing over and over and over. And this was, like, highly improbable because they were dead. I mean, should we just get into it? Like, the Packers, like, great.

Yeah, let's do that first. Let's do it. You want to set it up? 3127. I mean, first of all, people go after me because I talk about this rivalry. I'm like, this isn't a great rivalry. Cut it out. But the last three Packers' Bears games were better than any of the previous 100.

I mean, we could talk about this until Stranger Things six seasons comes out. I don't know. But my kids think there's another Stranger Things episode dropping. Yeah. I hate to break it to them, but this was Stranger Things right here. You and I on a Sunday night live. Yeah, no kidding. So big picture, Bears fans finally have a Q being a coach.

I think no matter what happens going forward, you at least have those two things. And Caleb had some unbelievable throws. But the big one for me, though, is better win or worse loss, if you have to pick one or the other. Is that a better Bears win or is that a more devastating Packers' loss? Wow. I'm going to say devastating loss.

I mean, it's hard to discount the win. But for God's sakes, 25 points. You want to give the guy 17 points in the fourth quarter, 820, 21, whatever. But 25 after you just, they would, he just had him. to rights, right? Like, he had, what, three touchdowns at half, 154 yards, lobby. He looked so smooth. Caleb looked like he was coming out of a coma.

He's saying, F this job after the Lut, the burden, the pick, where he ran the roller. I was like, wow. The Bears just happened to be here mode. The crowd was dead. Al Michaels was freezing his ass. So Herbstreets' dog's tail got frostbite. I mean, we had it all.

Like, I don't know. You tell me what happened. How are they put like it? Herb sheet was just focused on that one defensive back. on the bears and how he was playing hurt. And that was like his only point he had. This is his brain was trying to process this. It was one of the best Bears home playoff wins ever.

They scored 25 fourth quarter points. I had the Packers. Everyone had the Packers. That was part of the problem. I remember not feeling safe really ever, especially with the floor. It's 213. They had the ball to start the second half. First, they missed a field goal at the end of the first half.

Start slow the second half. The Bears are hanging around. around, but they don't look good. The crowd's kind of waiting to get into it. And then all of a sudden it was 21-16. But then the Packers score. And they go up 27-16, and the guy misses the extra point. And Michaels and Herb Street are just, it just bounces right off them.

Right. They're like, oh, well, it's still a two-possession game. I'm like, that was huge. 12 points means two touchdowns or you're not getting back. And it just felt like from that moment on it became the game from hell for the Packers. Yeah, I mean, yeah, they look, before that there were four fumbles that, and they didn't recover any of them. And that was their thing, the Bears, right? All year, they were one for five on fourth down conversions before that crazy pass that we're going to talk about.

And yeah, I don't, I don't really get what the plan is. I know everyone wants to kill the floor. But if you're up five. Me. I know, but five and a half minutes left, you're up 11 on fourth down. At some point, you won the game. The team's got to kind of come through there. I just hated that.

I hated the whole thing. Well, you get four fourth down stops. You get two Caleb picks. You have at one point, how big was the lead? 18 and you're up 11. Yeah. And you still can't get it done. But let me take you to, let me see,

it was 2116. I know you love this little stretch here. Yeah, I got to go through this because this drove me crazy. Bears get the two point right after Green Bay gives up a fourth and eight on the best throw of Caleb's career, which the all 22 of that throw is just the best. Love hits Dobbs for 34, right?

Bears need a stop or the game's over. Packers are still up three. Now it is first down on the Bears 33 with 327 left and the bears have to start using timeouts. Jacobs gets stuff, timeout. What happens next? They hit golden for 12.

Now we're resetting. Now we're on the Bears 21. The Bears have already used the timeout. There's 3.11 left. If you just stop this, it's impossible basically to lose. You can at worst case, you can run, you can kneel three straight times. You can take it to the two minute warning and go up six. What do they do?

Second down, they throw an incompletion in the end zone. Yeah. They try to hit the tight end on like this high level play that. You're up three. What are you doing that for? Green Bay time. out at 302 because they don't like the next play. And then they get a delay a game after the time out.

Right. And then they throw another end zone pass that's incomplete. And now they miss a field goal. And Chicago has one timeout left. Yeah. And they have three minutes and all they have to do is go 30 yards for a field goal. It was the done, like to me that's like Matt LaFleck can't come back. That's it.

You can't come back. Yeah. There's a couple reasons why he maybe can't come back because this is Ohio State, Michigan now, right? And so you lost it and you lost two games that you should have won, right? So whether it's his fault or not, it's bad. Maybe he lost the team. I do want to give the Bears defense credit because I know we like to crush people first and then praise afterwards, like 40 minutes into the podcast. Get used to that. Everyone on Netflix, but their defense was phenomenal. I think the Packers had one run over one yard in the second half. So there was a lot of

just kill the clock talk, but there was a way to kill it without throwing it. over everyone's head in the end zone, right? Like that whole middle of the defense was open from the bears. That a linebacker would get hurt. The whole game it was. Right. Edwards got hurt in the first half. He was their best linebacker.

Yeah. And I'm screaming the whole time. I'm like, love, just throw it to the dwarf with the giant head. Like, well, just find that guy and throw it to him. He's the one converting first downs. And then it was too late. And when they handed out, when they stuffed Jacobs after the 34-year-past the Dobbs, I went back and I freeze-framed it because they knew the Green Bay was going to

run on that. And they just had like nine guys in the box. And if they had just play action and love rolled out, the game's over. So it was weird. They both weren't aggressive and then they were stupidly aggressive. But I don't, I don't, in both past plays that were first downs, the guy ended up going out of bounds anyway. So they like did everything wrong. But I just feel like if that's my team and I'm down three and the other team has the ball on my 30 with three minutes left, I just feel like I'm going to lose. Yeah. Right. It's like a borderline miracle. And then you got to give credit to the Bears, six-play drive, 20 to take the four-point lead. And somehow during that, Green Bay has to call timeout because they only have 10 guys in

the field right before the two-minute warning. It was just a comedy of errors. And we weren't there. We didn't know how good the crowd was. But it was a classic home field playoff game. And I was really happy for the Bears fans. I mean, talk about a rough 40 years. Yeah, for sure.

I forget them for Super Bowl 20. And as lucky, if you want to say they're lucky as they were this year. It was completely the other way last year, right? With the Hell Mary and everything and that turned them all around. And listen, you called me. We spoke on Friday and we're like, all right, we got the square picks. We have the Packers and we have the Jaguars and we're not getting off of it. But damn it, we know it.

I wish we would have known we give these picks Thursday, whatever. I wish we would have known Friday everyone's taking because now it's like we're betting it without seeing the dealer's hand at all. And yet I still don't think we're suckers. Like the Packers should have won that game. I thought we had the right side, for God's sake. Yeah, I called you Friday afternoon. I listened to the ringer gambling show,

and you and I had the same basically straight up picks. And I felt like a lot of people were on the Packers, the Eagles, the Jags. And I just, I was like, oh, man, this is going to suck. Like, I've seen this too many times. And we're making these picks on Wednesday and Thursday, and you don't know where the general feel is going. House was on the show going,

64% of the public likes the bears. I'm like, listen, everybody I know who bets on football loves the Packers, and that's not a good sign. Right. But then at halftime, I mean, we had every, we could have easily taken the Bears plus 500 or whatever it was and not done it. It was, I think in the running for biggest choke of the year,

when you throw in that McManus missed two field goals and two PATs, either PAT that can get a field goal on the last draft. I hated the last draft, too. I hated everything. It did make me think, though, the Packers, who I don't, I don't think people would think with the Bills and the Browns and the Vikings and some of these NFL, the kicked in the balls club of fan bases, you don't think of the Packers, right? They won a Super Bowl with Farr. They won a Super Bowl with Rogers. I didn't tell you I was going to do this.

We got to go through their losses since they won that Favre Super Bowl because I, I'm kind of in disbelief. I was doing it this morning. I had coffee and I'm like, man, they've had my buddy chip was like another time, my buddy chips from Milwaukee's like another awful Packers loss. And I'm like,

shut up. And then I'm thinking about it. Like, oh, yeah. I went through. So since the 96 Super Bowl win, their own five in overtime playoff games. Wow.

They've lost five NFC title games. They won that won with Rogers. But some of the losses from the last 30 years, 97, they're going for that back-to-back Super Bowl against with far of against the broncos right they had the ball with five minutes left tie game go go four and out and then Denver drives down and away has the helicopter play so they lose that next year against san francisco terrell owens the miracle 25-yard touchdown when he just gets nailed

by two guys remember that like yeah almost like a pseudo hail mary they lose that with eight seconds left oh two they get smoked at lamo by michael vick which was like i think his only great playoff moment Did he have another one? No, that was probably it, right? Other than video games. 2003, Philly, the fourth and 26 to Freddie Mitchell. Right. Overtime.

Farve throws the pick and overtime they lose. O-7 Giants, Farve's last hurrah there. O.T. loss at home when the Giants missed the field goal to win in regulation and then Farth threw a pick in O.T. Freezing, yeah. O-9, Arizona.

O.T. loss at home. Arizona missed the field goal to win, and then they get a fumble touchdown. in overtime. That's how the Packers lose that one. They win the championship in 10. 2011, they go 15 and 1. They get smoked at home by the Giants. Like, super embarrassing loss.

2012, Kaepernick murders them. That was the, is Kaepernick about to take over the league game? 181 Rush. Kaepernick murdered? I mean, I thought he just knelt down. No, no, he murdered them. Oh. 2013, San Francisco, they lose on a field go at the buzzer.

2014, Seattle, NFC title game. They're up 197 with 11 minutes left. Probably the worst. Seattle has an onslaught. kick with 2.13 left, gets the ball back, and then the Packers lose in an OTT. I'm not done. 2015, Arizona,

hail married by Rogers to tie the game. And then they lose an O.T. You may not be done, but everyone switched to Chappelle like 40 seconds ago. No, no, one more. Stay with me, Netflix. 2016, they lose the NFC title. 2020, Tampa, remember this one? They're down eight with 215 left,

fourth and eight, and the floor kicks the field goal to go down five, then they lose. 2021 block punt TD. They lose to San Francisco on a field goal at the buzzer. And then two years ago, up four, six minutes left, miss a field goal, Niners drive, win.

And then this Bears game. That's like 20 games. So they're not Cleveland or Buffalo or the Raiders, but they're a different class of like, yeah. I shouldn't feel tortured, but why do I get my nuts kicked in every year in January? I think that's enough now. And they haven't won

since 2010, so it's 15 years. And they don't have the same case as the Vikings bills. But that's just bizarre that all that stuff happened in the same team. I always look at them. They're the team that beat the Cowboys. They go to a Cowboy. They can win on the road and Jordan Love can do it on the road and all that. That's another reason.

I like them so much. So you fire LaFleur, no questions asked. Well, supposedly he wants an extension for a lot of money, right? I'd probably part ways at this point. I mean, you lose a game where your quarterback throws four TDs with no picks. Yeah. On the road. And you lose.

You lose a game where you're up 18, heading in the second half and 11 heading into the last 12 minutes of the game. You're the ball with three minutes left. You're an offensive coach. Yeah. It was all bad. That last couple of drives were bad for sure for him. But, you know, you have a good coach.

Like I haven't had a McCart. He was fine, whatever. It wasn't a good fit. But I kind of think you hold on to these guys. Like at some point, it's like, all right. What are you going to, what are you going to, have you seen some of these guys? going for interviews for some of these teams like bow and yang i think interviewed with the raiders uh the no they had to cancel it because they did trouble yeah he's you had to drop out yeah all right so the

florida the raiders people got upset at him so he's no longer a candidate that's so sad i don't know just sometimes you look for a new house and it's got mold like just stick stick what you got i don't if you're the packers he had a bunch of injuries parsons is coming back it might be one of those where you wait three days, you calm down, you take a deep breath, and you're like, hey,

we'd a lot of stuff go wrong this year. We lost Tucker Kraft. We lost our center. We lost Parsons. We don't have a pick now. Maybe we wait one more year. But Lafleur in the playoffs has just been bad. And,

you know, at some point you got to, like you'd think at what Shannan did with that Niners game today. Right. Where he's basically, you know, playing seven-card stud with six cards

and still trying to figure out how to out poker everybody versus what LaFleur did. And not to mention Ben Johnson just beat him up. Just beat him up, you know, on the field. And after the game, the handshake was crazy. Can we talk about that? Sure. So I did, I tried to do a lot of investigating today

with anybody I know who knows anything, which is basically Peter Schroger. No, but I asked a bunch of people like, what's the genus of this of this? And it seems like it's a lot of, I heard you said this in a press conference or you heard that. And then that first handshake they had, the first game, where the Flour kind of quickshaked them.

Yeah, right. And now that's it. Now it's like, now it's like revolutionary war level hatred on both sides. It doesn't really seem like that with bigger catalysts than that, though. Well, it's also stupid. Like, if I'm Ben Johnson, I'd savor the moment. I don't just move on from it fast.

Like, I follow them. I follow the floor home. I'm like, hey, what about that fourth down throw? What'd you think? You know, ask him, hey, where are you going to interview tomorrow? Where are you thinking of going? I wouldn't let it go.

So that's just, that wouldn't be my tact. Well, we can swear on Netflix. We can. We could already swear on Spotify because this is going on Spotify as well. But he started out, fuck the Packers.

That was his speech. Gave a great speech. Caleb turned it over to Caleb Williams who got show. I watched all five minutes. This has been the year of they've taken locker room videos and turned them into something great.

But Caleb Williams gave a nice speech about him. And if you're a Bears fan, you just like, think of all the inept coaches and QBs. Our entire life, we've been watching football now for half a century. And most of our life, except for that one Walter Payton year. Yeah. Yeah, that one year when everything came together, they were, you never took the Bears

seriously ever. I don't think they were on TV for the first 15 years of my life in these coast, right? Yeah. And now they have this coach. I kind of got his cadence down for the speech. It's a smart thing. And he repeats everything. Well, he's just like, he's like, that's the first one.

That's the first one. And that's one you'll never forget. That's one you'll never forget. All right, bring it on in. Bring it on it. So you double every line and it's twice as effective. Who is the Goodfellas character? Tommy two times.

Oh, that's right. It was Tommy. So he's Benny two times? It's a great win. That's a great win. You have to double out. I love this. Benny two times.

He needed a nickname. Ben Johnson's a pretty annoying, pretty boring name. No kidding. All right. Well, there's a lot to discuss. That was the game in the weekend for you? I think it had to be. Yeah, it was not only because I had marked it off as a win on everything on my ledger,

and then I had to reconfigure. I had the same as my quest to go undefeated against the spread in the playoffs every year, which I dream of doing. That would be my number one thing I would want to accomplish. I know. Get the first one with the Panthers cover. than the Packers. Now I'm starting to,

I'm already thinking about Sunday because the bears look like they've checked out, right? It's Caleb, the body language, everything looks bad. And I'm like, oh man,

if I get the Jagstrom, I'll be three and no heading, you know, and then all of a sudden it flips. We're going to take a break on Netflix here and then come back

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Find out more. at Apple.com slash Apple Watch Series 11, iPhone 11 or later required. All right, we had another NFC upset. And in fact, all we had were upsets until the Sunday night game when my Pats beat the Chargers. We had four straight underdogs because the bill somehow became an underdog over the course of the week. Well, they covered, you mean. Panthers didn't win, but yeah. No, four straight covers.

Yep, yep. And then three out were it wins. The most shocking was Niners Eagles. I spent five days trying to talk myself into the 49ers. And like on Wednesday, I thought I was going to pick them. And then you just keep looking at the injuries. And you're like, all right, this is insane. Like they don't have anybody.

They're a bosom warner. They pierced all was scratched. Kittle blows out his Achilles that looked like during the game. And it's just like this stupid Eagles team that seems like they hate each other, even though they won last year. I get the nobody, the most compelling nobody believes in this case in a while for the Niners, who were really good and had a chance to actually win the division two weeks ago, we're just casting them aside this checks.

And I just couldn't do it. I was like, the Eagles will win one game and then they'll let their fans down. I thought this was the most Eagles playoff, Eagles' playoff loss we've ever had. I can't think of a better one, right? Would you agree? Yeah, I think so. I think so. But we also, it wasn't surprising either, right?

Not for one minute. Not for one minute. The Super Bowl MVP played so poorly and couldn't move his team. Like that's like, yeah, that makes sense. That really tracks with what we've seen. I mean, that offense is so lethargic. It really looks like they could do whatever they want, whenever they want, right? And then it's like, it's fourth and one, and he's just chucking it into the wind.

Like he had 4.6 yards per pass, and there's almost no rush coming his way. And the other thing is like, the play clock is either at zero or one when he snaps it every time. And so you would think the games would seem to go fast. Each Eagle's game seems like it's six hours long. They had 70 plays today. I'm with you. How do you run 40 seconds to play and you still run 70 plays somehow? Usually it's like 55.

Right. Yeah. They have the demeanor. Remember when we would play with our kids when they were younger, you play like basketball with them and it's like two on one against dad. The kids are like six and eight. And you're kind of half-assing it, but then somebody intentionally punches you in the balls and you get mad and you start trying a little bit.

And then you lay back again. The Eagles, they've acted the whole year like they're the dad playing their little kids. Yeah. And that they're like begrudgingly getting competitive. So this is a football game. They play with no pace. They try no trick plays. They try no chicanery at all.

They never seem like they're trying to out with the other team. And they have these two receivers that they're paying $60 million for. I think between the two of them, the longest catch they had was 15 yards. The longest catch, I want to say was Goddard. Somebody had a 20-yarder for them, and it wasn't either receiver. So it's like if you're going to pay that much for your receivers and your quarterback, but never throw the ball and never play with pace and never spread it out, never have fun, what's the point of having all of these guys?

So what the F happened? Like what really happened? Like because Barkley and Hertz were amazing. You couldn't stop by the goal line. And this is now, are they just that much? older and fragile. This is like a racehorse turning from three years old to four. Like, all right, I have no use for these guys.

They were so bad. They had to do so little to win. Like Purdy gifted them two picks, right? At home, ran for three yards per carry, San Francisco, right? So it's not like McCaffrey crushing until he caught something. And it's like Shanahan never wins after losing by six or more going into the fourth quarter. And they let, like, DeMarcus Robinson and Kyle Huschek beat them. Really, really bad.

How many Americans found out today that DeMarcus Robinson was on the 49ers? Probably like one-fourth the audience. I wrote down 12 minutes left. San Francisco was up one. And I wrote down purdy two picks, McCaffrey 15 for 35 and just question marks. It was like, how are they winning? What are they doing well? But it all came down to the Eagles.

The crowd, I think, booed every quarter. So if that was a parlay on Fandville, you would have won that one. Will the Eagles fans boo every quarter? I had that parlayed with pregame Aaron Andrews would be attacked by a herd of skunks. So that's what that was, right? She was dressed like Carmella Soprano. I thought that was a Halloween offer. Yeah.

I thought you were getting attacked. I saw that on, I stole that on Twitter from the Sopranos World account. That was great. That was funny. So here was my favorite part of the game. Because I did have out of, I lost the parlay I had with the Pats and Eagles, but I had the Eagles in these big teases. So I actually survived with a couple of them. Brady announcing that Jalen Hertz game was riveting.

Because I've heard Brady talk enough, and he always tries to be diplomatic, especially with other quarterbacks. But they would show like the All-22 view, and he'd be like, yeah, I don't really know what he's seeing there, Kevin. But obviously he saw something, and he just was, you could tell he was just dumbfounded. Like he just wanted to say, like,

Kevin, I don't know what this fuck this guy's doing. Yeah, yeah. What are these passes? Like what is his agenda here? But Brady was like so disappointed. And we've heard that too with Ramos sometimes when a quarterback is really bad. And they kind of don't want to breach the, it's like almost like mafia. You don't want to go against somebody who's a made man.

The quarterbacks are the made men so you can only go so far. But I thought Brady was disgusted by. I think so. Like that, you're right. There's like that's a bucket that we don't hear from announcers from the Anna West that we're former quarterbacks. You got the Josh Allen's where you could just like, If it's Allen's against Mahomes, it's just, that's a jerk fest for three hours. Yeah, that's fine.

Yeah, you're pulling your pants down at that one. Exactly. So that's it. Then you got the young quarterbacks, Cam Ward. You could always find something nice with them, you know, something like that. Or even we'll get to Trevor Lawrence and they're like running for first downs. But something like this, like, it's just a shocker that this guy won Super Bowl MVP. And like that he's not taking off more.

Like there's no design runs. Like, I don't know. This offensive coordinator's got to talk about guys. This Kevin Petullo, he's awful. I mean, he's interviewed. He should interview with the Jeff. He's that bad. I don't really get it.

I wrote down the Gably manifesto, which even though my picks weren't great, I thought hit some good ones today, including bad offensive lines don't travel with the Chargers. Possible manifesto ad I wrote down. If it seems like a team actively despises each other, no matter how good they are, you can't lay more than a field goal with them.

Oh. Okay. Did it seem all season like the Eagles didn't like each other? And that was the storyline. It was like, well, they won last year and Super Bowl hangover. And it's like, all right, but these guys also don't seem like they like each other. And then that play with Seriani runs over to yell at AJ Brown. Right.

And Brady goes, they have a great relationship. They have a great relationship. It's like they do. Maybe it's not so great anymore. I'd say it's not great. He just yelled at him on national TV. People broken up for less, I think. And then he drops a big pass.

So drops a big pass and then doesn't get interviewed after the game. And I've been trying to probably get out of there for a year. But I think that was just an unhappy team, whereas this Niners team, even though they kept losing these dudes, they still kept their team together and like the concept of pulling for each other and that you could feel it today. So it was literally like one team really cared about each other more than the other team did. It felt like part of the game.

And yet I feel like if one guy wasn't on the field, and I'm not even saying he should have been replaced. If he just wasn't on the field, blank and shipped, I think that he goes That game Was he the MVP of the weekend? Disaster. Just a freaking disaster.

I mean, the play that everyone's going to talk about is Juan Jennings throwing that pass to McCaffrey, who Blankenship was supposed to blanket but, and then the Willie Mays catch. And I think that was the only way

they were scoring that drive, honestly. Like there's two players who could hurt you on this team. One of whom has the ball, he's ready to throw it. He's about to get attacked by four guys.

And you're like, you're covering the other one. And you're like, all right, you know, I'm going to join the other four guys, even though I'm 15 yards away. What the hell? And then just three other plays. It was just awful. They, so the heroes of the game, McCaffrey had a couple big, even though he didn't have the rushing stats, had a couple of big plays. Robinson, we mentioned.

The fullback had a couple awesome plays. It was jacked. And then we got to do it. Criticized them a few times on the BS pot over the years. But nine kids, Bobby Salah. Mm-hmm. I mean, he might get hired now. He might get a head coaching job.

Like, for real. There's going to be like nine jobs available, but he was what he did to the Eagles and what he did to their receivers. I thought it was really impressive. Like, the other way to look at it is Lane Johnson's the most valuable player since Tom Brady retired. Right. Because it just feels like they fall apart without him.

Yeah, but, you know, Barkley had 100 yards. It just did stupid things, right? They didn't convert when they should have. You know, this ends up being like a, you know, it sends up being like a four. down fest who can convert and who can't and just um you know i just uh the way i and i would say shanahan deserves credit too i mean when a guy like kiddle goes out you already have injuries yeah and you have to really like you know he and kubiak have to adjust and and the defense kept them in like

i'll you know we'll probably crush him next week but good job by shannon i think he's been awesome yeah and i thought he would have been the coach of the year before he lost the last game right Vrabble or Liam Cohen probably gets out of the Liam Cohen lost today. Well, the big thing was to get that Purdy pick, they're down 17, 16. There's enough time left. There's like nine minutes left. Philly's at home. It's like, all right, let's see some emergency guys.

And they start their drive and it's like, okay, I'm already in my head like they're going to score, go for the two point, they'll be up seven. Now they're covering. Like you go through all that mental gymnastics. And then the drive kind of stalled and they kick the field goal and they're up too. Right. And I thought that was it. Yeah. At that point, I thought the Niners were going to win the game.

It was one of those they kind of had to get a touchdown. Right. On that tribe, they just couldn't. And the, I mean, we didn't talk about this yet. This is, I don't know if a coach has ever been fired a year after they won the Super Bowl. It's probably, probably making history. Too crazy, yeah. And I really thought LaFleur was what we saw from him in the second half was going to be the worst thing we saw a weekend.

It's fourth and 11. There's 43 seconds left. Eagles need to get a first down and they're on like what the 22 or something they don't like something and they call timeout and they had three timeouts left Brady and I thought Brady was actually really good

today I thought that was the most I've enjoyed him doing yeah Brady and Burke Hard are fine with it Brady's like well if you don't like it you got to call time out it's a big play and everyone else is watching this has ever played a video game it's like you just lost like if you don't get this the game's over you only have two timeouts. And I couldn't believe they missed it. And I couldn't believe they called a timeout. I'd rather have a delay a game. Can I say something? And I know I'm way in the minority here.

And I'm usually with you the whole time. But okay, zag on me. Honestly, that was the game right there. That was the play. The offense looked so disheveled. Get a play. If you make the timeout count, don't throw it so that nobody's going to have a chance to convert or get it on fourth down. Or don't call the time out and kick the field goal. And then you're, talking about the same thing, basically, stopping them and no time comes off. Because, right? Because, oh, that's interesting. I didn't think of that. I just didn't think they were going to drive the field, even if they were going to get, you know, stop, stop, stop, and then punt. So that play seemed to be the end for me.

It's the classic, why are we practicing all season if we're not prepared for this specific moment. Right, right. It's like, oh, fourth and eight. Ah, need two more minutes to think about this. It's like, this is just, what's your best play? Yeah. Is it, AJ Brown one-on-one, just throw it to him, he either gets a PI or catches it. Like, what is it? Right.

This is the time to call it. Is it Goddard over the middle, hit, you know? I'm looking. It was really bad. We had, there was a crazy wind. We had the fight. We had kiddle getting hurt. We had a double reverse wide receiver pass.

And we had the Niners somehow scoring on two straight drives. Trent Williams playing was a big part of this game, though. Yeah. And it was like, like, when we were trying to figure this on Wednesday, Thursday, it was unclear with him and Lane Johnson, which one of those was playing. Fox, when they were promoting this game on Wednesday, wouldn't put Trent Williams picture against Lane Johnson. That's not how they would do it on the graphic.

You don't think that would work? It really kind of came down to that, right? Then one of them didn't play. Other NFC game. And then we'll do the two AFC games after. Panthers, Seahawks. Yeah. Seahawks by 10 and a half.

It was the biggest road favorite line ever. Panthers Rams, yeah. I'm sorry, Panthers Rams. I took the points. I didn't. It was the only one for our Ringer 107 contest. Somehow I'm two and three with picks this week and 0-and-4 in the Ringer 107 contest.

Yeah. Yeah, ask yourself how you can pull that off because I did. I'm going the other way in Ringer 107 now. I want to end up with by far the worst record and then have the big comeback next year. I want to go like 42. Yeah, I'm not changing anything.

Okay. I want to go like 43 and 64. But Panthers Seahawks, the people that were around in our fantasy. Why do you want to call them the Seahawks so much? The Panthers Rams, because I'm screwing up here on Netflix. Panthers Rams,

seven of us come together at Shaky's in Hollywood, which we do every year. Was this the most entertaining Shakey's game we ever had? I think so. So we saw Tebow, right? I think that would be the only, oh, no, wow. So there were two that we thought of. The Tebow over time.

I should probably explain the Shaky's game to whatever new audience we have. Just don't keep saying it's the Seahawks, but go ahead. Yeah. It's Panthers Ramps. Right. Shaky's game, it's the first game of the weekend, round one. They always put the least appealing game. Our Fantasy League gets together and we go to Shakees because it was a pizza place in the late 2000s.

that was pretty run down on Santa Monica Boulevard. And we thought it would be funny to do our banquet there, like the most run-down pizza place in our area. And it's become a tradition to go to Shakey's. Like we could afford chicken Parmesan at like a decent restaurant. Yeah, we could go to like Dan Tannas or something. We don't. We go to Shakey's and it's usually an experience.

Tebow versus Pittsburgh 2011, Tebow's one great playoff moment happened in a Shaky's game. And then Beast Mode against the Saints. I think those were the two best ones. That was good. You're not going to like this. But, oh, no, it was Ravens Broncos, right? Was that a Shaky's game?

Yeah, it was a Shaky's game. We might have stayed for the second game. That might have been like the second game kind of thing. This one was great. And the funniest thing was our groups all together, including our friend Hanch, who we've talked about many times, Damash, our friend Tony,

who you and I used to share an office with on Jimmy Kimmel Live. you have, I don't, I don't, whatever college funds left you have. It's more. Whatever you're guessing. Yeah. Yeah. So you come in pleasant and it's the fourth quarter starts and it seems like there's a big panthers upset.

You're sinking backwards in your chair and you, you're just focused on the game. And Hansen, Damashik and Tony just start talking about the American Revolution doc on PBS. Loudly. Yes. Talking about. different wars, what was the best part? And they're just going on and on. I almost felt like it was a bit.

I thought it was like a hidden camera bit. And I'm like, guys, three minutes left. Kind of a bit, this would be kind of a big upset here. And they're like, but here's the thing about Benedict Arnold. And they're just like going crazy. And you're dying and I'm dying.

And our friend Randy is dying. It was hilarious. I don't want to say anything. But I'm like, this is the biggest upset in Shaky's history and in wild card history, right? it's about to happen. And you're freaking talking damage to Hedge.

Like, General Cornwallis had it coming. Like, who gives a fuck? Like, this is not Netflix, right? It's PBS. This American Revolution thing? It's not Netflix. They're like,

and how about what they did to the Quakers? And it's like, all right, fourth and three. It was amazing. So it was like watching you being honestly operated on. I was like, listen, this is a near disaster of a shakey's outing for me. Like you and Henge killing Stafford.

Stafford's like auditioning for MVP every single pass. Like, oh, Drake May would have completed that. He would have done. Yeah, he hits Pooka in the helmet from a 30 yards. He's like, he threw it too hard. Like, all right. Then the American Revolution talk. And, you know, I'm about to get killed with this Rams money line.

And Brad wasn't really fun. Like, he fell asleep with his arms folded. And then he, like, occasionally wake up to make fun of the diminutive, you know, elderly women in the booth behind them. But that was it. I was like, I may have to leave. I don't know what's going on. You miss Brad's most fun.

part when he reviewed sinners for us. That was... Oh, really? He thought it was overrated, was his take. Oh, yeah. Well, the best part, I'm sorry. I know, Brad is our crazy, crazy friend for many, many years. But before I even got there, you're like, hey, hurry up.

They only have the Rams game on on two of the eight screens, and Brad is yelling at the manager. I was like, yep, that checks out. And then I didn't hear anything from you. So I was like, I know. Yeah, they had a Bears Packers game on two of the TVs from NFL network from two months ago. I've noticed this in different restaurants.

and establishments. Whoever's in charge of the TV, they're always put out. Oh, yeah. Like, you have a place and you have TVs all over the place. I assume part of the attraction of coming to your place

would be people are going to eat and watch games on TV. And then you don't care what games are on the TV. And it's like, this is, we're in LA. It's a Rams playoff game. Every game should be,

there was like a corner TV show and NBA TV. They were showing the Packers Bears game. They had Spectrum Channel 1, just the news channel is on one of them. It's like, but just go around and put Channel 11 on all these. Right. I don't know. I try. I think there's a way to do it. You have to have a deaf touch. You go to the manager. And it's like, listen, I have this great, great talent. I can control any remote you hand to me. This won't take a second out of your time. I know what, I know what channel. Every game is on. Just go about, do your thing,

just cook up a new batch of mojo potatoes. I'll do this for you. And they get put out by it most of the time. Sometimes they're like, yeah, here, take it. I don't care. I don't want to do it. But yeah. I thought you said you went up to them and said, listen,

if the Rams lose this game, I'm going to have to put my house on Redfin. Can I please have the remote control? Grabbing all this leftover pizza and selling it in the parking lot. And then I'm selling my car along with it. Well, Stafford, it was an MVP roller coaster. couldn't like the lack of mobility you could really feel with them a couple of times but then every time it really started look bad he'd make a great play um he had a i wrote down there was a happy feet

drop pick after he'd had another pick and after he'd miss adams for a bomb t-d and after the happy feet dropped picked on third down he was 11 for 26 yeah but then he he kind of rallied and what was interesting was Panthers through a pick. They had a field fourth and won. They lost their left tackle. They're hanging around, hanging around.

And they block a punt with 4.30 left because the Rams special teams is just going to be their Achilles heel. Apologies to George Kittle. And the Panthers get the go-ahead touchdown, but there's almost too much time left. It was like they almost

would have been better out, punt, 70-yard drive, end the game. But instead they score fast and the Rams were able to put together a draft. That's my second talent. Working the remote

and knowing how to do the clock management. We talked about that. We said, like, hey, quarterbacks need to play less video games and head coaches need to play more in the form of madden, like knowing how much time is left and time management.

Because I know their head gets scattered. But yeah, Stafford was good. I think it was 12 for 15 down the stretch. He was good. Everything you said before that is true, six for seven on that last drive. But again, it comes down to like fourth downs. They were 0 for three of the Panthers

on fourth down conversions. And that's a turnover. Bryce was all over the place, which has been the experience all year. But it was weirdly like a, it was a moral victory win for them. But they didn't get embarrassed. They hung around. They almost won. There was some really bizarre coaching.

Like McVeigh passed up going up 27 before halftime. Right, right. Could have been up 13, kick off, just take it. But decided to the, there was a lot of fourth down hero ball that I'm sure the nerds have, have supported all the time. did feel like it was a tipping point of like common sense in some of these. Yeah. You know?

But what's funny is we'll get to it in your game. But Harbaugh, like, kind of had the same decision to make twice. And once he made one and the other, he decided to kick. Right. He flipped. Well, it probably would have said green, go, you know, if you looked at analytics for both. But at some point, yeah, you're like, yeah, let's get some points on the board. Enough.

Harbaugh was like the guy at third base and Blackjack who hits on 13. And the next time it comes to them, he stays. And you're like, right. Yeah, pick a lane. dude. It's not, it's not, you just got to go in one way or the other. What's, what's the one you like doing more? Pretty bizarre last minute Carolina drive to where they had had enough time left maybe to seem we'd do something. But, uh, listen, I was suspect of the Rams. I didn't think they would be the team that came out of the NFC. Uh, I had, I had Seattle, which Seattle didn't play and was probably one of the big winners of the weekend. Yeah. But I just don't think the Rams defense is good enough. That's my.

my big, I thought the Panthers proved yet again that I think you can move the ball on them. They have a pass rush. That's about it, right? What do you, what do you see from it? No, that's it. I mean, they had young in trouble a couple times, a few times. They put them down. And they're also penalized, which is weird. They had like 83 yards and penalties. That hurt them a lot. But yeah, you're going to get a couple of big plays now that they're going to see better quarterbacks, Caleb Williams. You know, they have to go to his backyard. So this is tough. I mean, I have them on. I love those cross. This is who's going to meet who and the Super Bowl things.

I made a bunch of those and the Rams are on them. Not feeling great about that right now. No. We did have a good conversation about American Revolution. Yeah. Well, we learned a lot about the revolution. I got to put in my two minutes

about how Boston just saved everybody's ass and people should be a lot nicer to Boston. That is it? Yeah. Yeah. You thought that could end the conversation. 1775 starts everything. We don't get enough credit for that.

Right. Unless I could live bet this American Revolution chat, cut it out. Let's watch the game. Well, we had a good talk because I was, I'd watch the Marchand launch, Marshawn Lynch, Beast Bud Run on Twitter,

like on Wednesday. It was just randomly on. I was like, that has to be the greatest run on my life. And so we were talking about what were the best NFL runs we could ever remember. And I do think that, That's like a minus 420 favorite to be the answer.

Wow. It's been around a long time. What did we say? We had a couple that stacked up, right? Dorsets 99 yarder. Maybe not as important, but it was a Monday night, right? But it had the Monday night football crew. Yeah.

Marcus Allen in the Super Bowl, Riggins in the Super Bowl. And then I think the wild card are the two Bo Jackson ones, the when he knocked over Bosworth. But then the one when he's going down the sidelines and he's like on the 50 and the announcer's like, he's gone. And he just keeps going. and runs into the tunnel.

Right. That was good. But I think when you watch the Lynch one, for what it meant to the game, it's an actual playoff game. They're like 10-point underdogs. He either, I think like eight guys either hit him or bounce off him.

And it's like a Benny Hill sketch. Camera shaking. Yeah. State is rocking so much. Yeah. Yeah, I think that has to be the number one. But I don't know the answer. If we're going to go greatest,

greatest reception ever, it gets a little harder. What about when Lamar, Jackson had the runs and had to take off to the locker room, like in the middle of the second quarter. You're not counting that? I forgot about that one. Oh, and then we talked about, we talked about Mendoza, too. Yeah. What's going on with him? Because I've, I've landed on Mendoza going to Vegas as would be the funniest 2026 storyline. Poor guy. The least vagusy guy who could ever go to Vegas. And that's just where he's going to be. Mendoza, you want to come gambling with us? I can't.

have fun guys. I'll say a prayer for you. Like least fun, Vegas hang ever? He's his pregame meal is like dinosaur, chicken nuggets and mac and cheese. And like, yeah, they're going to send them to the crazy horse three. Like, yeah, no, sorry. It's going to be the hangover for as they finally break Mendoza at a bachelor party. And it's just loses his mind. It disappears.

Yeah. That's it. Let's go to the AFC. We'll do my game. Fine. Pat's Chargers. You did it. You won.

It's great. Terrific. 193. Disgusting. Two teams that couldn't block. Oh, your guys didn't block either? We couldn't block. They really couldn't block.

And it was just the defensive battle. That was the best our defenses looked in a long time. But everyone's also healthy. They had a great game plan. They really took advantage of the fact that the Chargers don't have a left or a right tackle who should be playing. And Herbert has whatever's going out of this hand and got the crap kicked out of them. And by the end of the game, even though I wanted the pads to blow them out, like 10% of me felt bad for Herbert.

Yeah. I didn't know what he's supposed to do in that game. He's a tough bastard, right? So that's why you can't. You can't really crap on him, right? But these are some bad losses now that he's been part of. Not that bad, like they should have won and lost. But, you know, the Jaguars won when they're up 30, didn't do anything in the fourth.

that Texans game last January, he threw four interceptions. And now this one, I just don't know. That offensive line ought to be ashamed to themselves. I know there's injuries. They've used like nine guys. But what were you guys? Like 26th in sacks this year?

Yeah. They've blocked better teams, like better runs. Like they just, we're not ready for this. I think Milton Williams being back and healthy was a big part of that. Because he missed like five, six games. And that was like the entire middle of the defense. but home crowd, Sunday night, West Coast, East Coast. But the big thing was I didn't feel like their receivers were ever open.

And then a couple of times when they were open, they weren't making plays. But even like Keenan Allen had a drop, Gonzalez before he got hurt, I thought that was the best Patriots game I've ever seen him have. It was phenomenal. He was all over the place. Collinsworth called it out a couple times. But it was like nobody was doing anything on him. And then he got hopefully not concussed some sort of possible something.

and it didn't even seem like a concussion play. So status could be in question for next week. But I'm trying to think how the Boston, Boston media can get a little negative. No. For this? A couple radio shows. No, it's a, it's, they do this whole, there's a couple Northeast cities that do this, where they zag and they're like, they might have won, but they only won.

And this was bad. And Drake May, that's why he's not going to win MVP. they're going to get super negative. I've watched every snap of Drake May's career. That was not a good Drake May game for about two hours there. I thought he was off. He was okay. What he did with his legs was more impressive than anything, honestly, right?

And then, you know, you move the ball. I don't know. I just, you do see how it's a little more difficult than when you play the Jets four times, right? But still, you handle you. I mean, you were so overconfident and it worked. It worked. How does this happen? I was.

really good about the Chargers O line. I really felt like that was going to be... I didn't think they're going to be able to run the ball, and I didn't think they're going to be able to protect Herbert. But I thought May was going to be better than that. Like, he missed Hooper in the second half for a touchdown. And he hasn't missed that throw in three months. Yeah, he's a little off-balance.

He's nailed that all... I know, but he's nailed that throw all the time. He had a couple great scrambles. I did the one thing... We should have talked about this on Ringar Gambling Show. That whole... Remember that there was, like, four or five playoff games when the Mahomes rushing over-underers were too low?

Oh, right, yeah. And they never factored in that he would just play differently in the playoffs. The Patriots have had the fucking, you know, kids gloves with May with the scrambling all season. They don't want him to get hit. They don't want him to get concussed. He slides. He goes down.

He didn't this game. He was really aggressive with that and trying to run around. And I think that playoff, Drake, I thought that was the difference. Definitely. No doubt about it. I mean, that under, that over must have hit in the first quarter. like with that first run. I mean, I know you're the kneel downs.

It's about the only over the hit. And then it's like, you know, I think it helped you that I didn't see when they changed this rule, but Patriots are allowed to slap the, like, get face, use face mask penalties and like it's not a penalty. Oh, the hit in the head thing. That was great. I love that. It happened on, I think, McConkey, too. Like, I didn't know you were allowed to do that now.

So that's a great benefit going forward, I think. That was a penalty. It came right after a ridiculous spot. So I felt like it evened out. Right. That's true. That's all you ever want. I just did not believe in this Chargers team as a playoff team.

I thought they were lucky to get in, and I just thought they'd had too many injuries. This never works, by the way. As a fan, when you call out the team you want to play, like three weeks ago, you probably you said you wanted to play the Chargers, right? Yeah, because they had no offensive line. Let that be the 2-7. And then you talk up May and everything. Well, like, is this one of the top three days of your life?

I wanted to ask. No. Patriots win. Hold on. Top 25. Netflix debut. Netflix debut. People wondering why we don't have makeup on.

Right, right, right. Probably just me. But Amy Poehler wins, right? Let's talk about that. Amy Poehler won the Golden Globe for Best Podcasts. Yeah. And deserved it because the podcast is great. She's a great person and we love working with her.

So yeah, that was exciting. Good job by you. I mean, this has to be with top three. They doused the Vrable with hot water and lemon. I don't know if you saw that because we were just like going. live. Did they do that and put honey in it? Put honey in it. Well, Vrabel hugged Milton Williams and got headbutted in

the nose and mouth and was bleeding. I loved it. You don't see the coach. I'm trying to make himself bleed more. Coach is going to the blue tent. After the game, it's weird. You don't see it that much. Yeah, it was, you know, I wanted, I was hoping the Golden Globe thing would turn out well and it was happening right during a Patriot drive.

Right, right. And it was just a lot. I felt like I was overheating like a car. I was like, this is too much. I've seen this happen to you a couple times. when there's too many games, and you're just kind of like, get that like there in the headlights, getting overwhelmed look. Did you, let me ask you this,

Amy wins, but the Patriots lose, or you could have the opposite result, which one? You know what's funny? I said to my wife two hours ago that you were going to do this. Okay.

So you should have an answer prepared. I'm definitely not answering. Oh, come on. For the new listeners, when Sal and I worked together on Kimmel's show, and we sat next to each other at a desk, that desks right next to each other, writing jokes and doing shit every day.

And any time I was like trying to work and you would try to mess with me and you would be like, Simmons, you could only save one of your two parents. Which one do you pick? Right. And you would just throw these like crazy hypotheticals

at me every day, basically. And you said you're dad. So I knew that polar one was coming because I've known you now for 23 years. Well, what's the answer? You don't want to answer? Come on. I think it's nice for the net.

I wanted both. I wasn't thinking either or. It was not a good situation. All right. But I was happy. I did. I started to get competitive when the smartless guys

handed out a award, though. Oh, right. In the beginning. I was this rigged? I didn't know we were rigging this. The smartness guys, they hand out the award, they get to do it.

But big picture for Herbert. You said it earlier, 0 and 3 in the playoffs now. The nerds love them. The nerds will defend him to the death. Did you feel like he could have done more in that game, other than maybe be a little more protective of the ball? What was he missing?

When he was stuck, up in the pocket and like just before the line of scrimmage and he lets it fly, I don't think he hit any of those passes. And those are the only like 15 plus yard passes. I thought he was able to complete. If he drops back in the pocket, he goes through his progressions as good as anyone else. But that wasn't working. So everything else is like a five-yard pass.

But I really thought he'd be able to hit. Although, I mean, you had great coverage. I don't know what to say. Again, defense was good. Defense is good. Well, can we say the two worst playoff teams were the Panthers and the Chargers? right? I mean, maybe tomorrow we'll feel that way about

the Steelers or the Texans. Right, right, right. I just felt like they weren't at the same level. Even Philly who you know, shit the bed, but you can't say that team wasn't talented. That team had dudes all over the place. Yeah, those are the two for sure. The May thing, a couple other just

deep cut pat stuff. They really miss Matt Collins who the announcers did not mention once in the game today. And I like to RICO and Collinsworth. I thought they did a great job for the most part. Matt Collins, the blocking, he was like a Drake Mae security blanket. They would always get one deep pass with them and he got hurt just randomly. He had some abdominal injury or something like in the last two weeks of the season. But I just thought, I don't think they've looked

the same since he left. And then May was too sloppy in the pocket with the ball. Like he, if they're going to play whoever next week, it's either going to be the Texan. They play the Texans next week who have a good defense. Yeah. You can't be that careless. with the ball with all the people around you. This is the stuff he was doing as a rookie. And he wasn't doing it the last three months. He was way more careful with the ball. He was not careful.

You're fine. You're going to get every single bounce from now until 2050. He fumbled, the offensive lineman, like, grabbed it, a whirling dervish, but switched hands and recovered. They recovered one of those, too, on the charger side. Vidal got one. His own, right. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, they were. That was their biggest play for a while. I do wonder, like, that first playoff game, there are some pretty convincing stats about a QB in their first playoff game, the matter who they are. You know, we have like the Quincy Carter types

from way back, but then even like Peyton Manning, whoever, Brady, the snow game, he was terrible for two hours in that game and then finally got going. But I think we'll see next week because I know that, I bet his standards are going to be a little higher and Vrable push some a little bit.

The Virgin quarterbacks were two and one. Virgin quarterback playoff quarterbacks for two to one. He had a similar game to Caleb where it took them a while to warm up. Caleb finished with 361. And he didn't have the scrambling like Drake did. Oh, I know it. Drake finished with 17 for 29 for 268. But he was he was like seven for 17 at one point.

Like it was like way, usually he's 75% of his passes. He was 10 for 66 rushing. The big thing now, and I mentioned this last week, and I just wanted to mention again quick, the Ramadre Stevenson Renaissance, who was the best guy on the offense today. And this was the guy,

the Pats fans were ready to wave after the Stewards game. You know, Brable stuck by him. It was one of the best things that he did. All right, the game I was the most wrong about. This was the only game I really loved. Jags, Bills. Yeah.

And I really thought the Jags were better. I didn't understand how the Bills were going to beat them. And as it turns out, the blueprint for them beating them was basically what happened, a ridiculous game. Alan throws to nine receivers. Alan runs the ball 11 times. He runs the ball for two touchdowns, including a 10-yard tush push.

I think he had 14 injuries by the end of the game. I couldn't even keep track anymore. His wife was pregnant at the Golden Globes 3,000 miles away. And it's just like, gamut of emotions day from him. He was throwing a Shakir, Brandon Cooks, who wasn't playing for anyone. Gabe Davis, who they picked up, who got hurt again. Coleman, who they benched twice, the two white tight ends, couple running backs. Shavers, right?

He had seven incompletions and nine guys caught passes from him. You should not have less incompletions than receivers. Right. But he was just, it was a face of the league game from our guy, Josh. And I'm watching the whole game going, God damn it, why do I have Trevor Lawrence against Josh? I know. And I had the whole week to think about it. And I knew it.

And I walked into it and I was just like, ah, but again, one stupid play. And that's, I guess, the difference, right? In the end, one team had Josh Allen and the other one did, although they both had Josh Allen. The other one didn't play quarterback though. Yeah, the other one had a Heinz Allen. So they have a Josh Allen.

I think the Mahomes Philly game last year really screwed me up because I, I couldn't think of a single reason to pick Casey other than Mahomes. I'm like, I'm just not going against Mahomes. Right. So then you go into this game moment. I'm not doing that again. We're the only reason I can think of picking one, team is the quarterback, and yet that was the reason they won.

But then you think they were running them. They were doing just what they needed to do. They were, they had rushing yard. I know you were, you were killing the offensive play calling because they didn't go as much to, you know, at the end and Tutin as much as they should have. But it's one play.

It's that fourth and one where like Lawrence goes and he launches and his shin hits the ground or something. I don't know his knee hits. I don't know how it happened. They score there. what, 14-3? And then, like, then Josh Allen's

like a little against the ropes. That's what you needed to happen. Well, they get, they had a terrible pick in the first half. Yep. By Lawrence. Just an awful old school, terrible Trevor Lawrence store where,

like, Red Zone September. Like, let's go to Jacksonville. Trevor Lawrence wants this one back. So we have that. We have the fourth and two inside the 10, which is there for some reason as he dives.

He knees the ground. They get it. on a kickoff. Yep. And yet nothing was going right for them. I wrote down their running backs were eight for 99 in the first two hours rushing. Eight carries for 99 yards. And they're just force-fading Lawrence.

And it was to the point where it's like, do they want this guy to be the hero of the game or something? Like, what's the game plan? Just run the Buffalo can't stop the run. What are you guys doing? And then the run will set up the play action. And it just, it took them too long to get going, Sal. I think it's tough, Bill. But no, I mean, that's their offense, though.

Like, they mix it up. And don't forget, like, Lawrence at that point, at that point was averaging seven yards of carry himself, right? Yeah. And I'm all four like, oh, he just threw an interception. Let's run the ball a little bit. But it was late first quarter. You got to build that confidence back a little bit.

And I felt he, look, it was their defense that needed to step up at the end, right? Like, he got him ahead in the fourth quarter with a few minutes. We all knew, we all knew it was too much time. No, it was the last two drives. Buffalo drove the last two, right? Two touchdown drives in the fourth quarter to end the game on the road in Jacksonville. Yep, that was it. Stop him.

That's it. I thought Lawrence was bad. And the kick missed. That was a bad miss from the guy who makes him from, you know, Boca Raton. Little. He can get these, yeah, a little Cam Little. Oh, my God. Nance really.

Oh, he did. They were both jinxing. Oh, he's like, this guy can make it from 80. And then, of course, he comes out. When they're at their own 15, they're like, oh, bring him out for this. Lawrence was 18 for 30 for 207 and two picks. I actually kept track the entire game of balls that he threw that hit Buffalo hands. How many?

One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. Eight. What? Eight. I'm telling you. I marked all of them down. Eight times a Buffalo defender hit a Lawrence pass with their hand. Oh, oh.

And then the last play. The tip passes. Is it talking. Tip pass or the guy had a chance to pick it. The last play when they actually got the interception, two guys hit that. The guy tipped at another guy caught it. Right.

But it was just, he was just throwing it around. And he reverted back to September Trevor Lawrence. I thought that guy was dead after the Denver game. I thought this was the new Trevor Lawrence was that. Yeah, I think I... He wasn't good enough. Buffalo doesn't have a good defense.

No, that's true. It's true. But it was very good today. It really was. Rousseau and Shaq Thompson was excellent. I think they did have like the eight or nine past deflections. I did write that down. And the other thing that they turned around on the bills was time of possession.

It was like 34-26 Buffalo. It's like, no, not going to win that game. That's not, we knew it with that, they wouldn't win with that game plan. So they had, Buffalo has a chance to go up three. They get that crazy tush push, or as Nance called it, the push-tush. Right. Do you hear that one? Yeah, yeah, push-tush.

No relation to pass rush from Chris Collins or anything. And Allen gets tackled basically to decide he's down at the one. There's a minute, two left. Right. Jacksonville has no timeouts. And the move is kind of sneak, but don't do what Drake made it earlier this year where you don't try to score. Alan's like, fuck it. He goes right in.

There's a minute two left and they're up three. And it felt like a huge mistake. Yeah. I felt I'm always for like ram it in. case like a minute with that kicker who can kick 70 yarders. I'm like killing but what does the play like? So is it a kneel down? Because you don't want to start the second play from the three and then you get a false start. No, he snaps it and he just kind of sneaks but he just kind of goes down. Because they were going to let him score anyway. So

he probably he probably could have just like gone forward or right where he was. Yeah. They had 62 seconds left. They got the ball like the 25 and their kicker can kick a field goal from the 50. So they needed to go in 62 seconds, 25. yards. So what's the first play? Let's throw it right over the middle to a guy who's covered by two people. Even if he catches it, it's a 10-yard play. He gets tackled. 22 seconds come off the clock. Like, how is that your first play? I just thought, Liam Cohen. Is there something about first-year, first-time coaches in a playoff game again with somebody who immediately is losing the QB matchup? Maybe that's like some sort of bad formula. Let's ask.

producer. Cahall get pulled that up and we're going to need that in 30. Yeah. Come back with us. I got an email from a reader, listener, Pierre and Louisiana. After this game, he said, think you're overthinking the picks. Fundamentally, hobbyist gambling should simply be about having fun. You agree with this?

Wait, what? Hobbiest gambling should simply be about having fun when you gamble. He's saying it should be fun. he needed to see you yesterday during the Rams game. It's not been fun. I'm trying to think when was the last time

was fun. Like when was the last? This is not where a lot of craps a hot craps table. This is every man for himself. I think the most fun I ever had was Ravens' Giant Super Bowl in January, February 2001,

whatever that was. Yeah, that was good. We didn't even know each other yet. We separately cleaned up. I hit like everything in that game. Super Bowl's weird for me. I don't have fun because I'm so upset this season's over.

You've too many bets. I win. Yeah. So Pierre says, betting against Josh Allen isn't fun. Betting on Trevor Lawrence isn't fun. Maybe add fun to the playoff gambling manifesto. So he sent this email and then I watched the Eagles Niners game and I'm like, I'm not having fun with my pick here either.

I wish I had the Niners. It would have been more fun to have that nobody believes those Niners. So round two, I might just go for fun. What is it? Because Pierre said so? Yeah, Pierre Louisiana. Thanks. We should have more fun with Gaelic or something.

The PR, thanks, but we know, we got this, man. Don't ever e-mails again. I have to find this picture I took of you. I hope this. Oh, no. This is Sal and Shaky's. You son of a bitch. As these, as our three friends are talking about American history

and the Rams are falling apart. And Sal is just sinking backwards into his chair. You know. That was yesterday. See, that looks like gambling wasn't fun. No, no, no. that was one of the, all the three hours that it was in fun. It's 2724 with 242 left.

And I think Hanch and Damashek and Tony were in 1776 at that point, like breaking down post-tee party. Right. What was happening then. I'm glad you showed because I wasn't going to do this, but now that you did, I have a picture of you singing in excess to your wife here. No, I don't. I don't have. I don't, I don't have. Surprise birthday party.

Surprise birthday party. I was a karaoke surprise. I don't know if that's going to be a win or loss for me if that ever ends up online. You're turning very red. It looks like you have makeup now. This is good. This is all right. What you need?

What you need? What was it? What did you sing to her? I really thought you were going to have the video. I was like, I was terrified. I should have. I knew. Yeah, you've had too good a day.

You know what I do have, though, is I have video footage of me watching the Eagles game in the sauna. I got that one for you today. Oh, no. Yeah. Yeah. I knew that would annoy you. What does it matter with you? You wore a shirt also?

Bill wears a shirt in the sauna. I wore a shirt in sauna. I did second half Jags, Bills on the treadmill going 3-9 walking and 4-0 during commercials. And the game flew by because I just couldn't believe the Jags were blowing it. And then sauna after. And then finished it off with some hot water and honey. Yeah. What a guy.

Yeah. Things are off pizza for 2026. Yeah, did you see me eating the pizza and pulling the cheese off? I know. I was proud of myself. Most disgraceful patron of Shakies. Good job. So we had five games.

Four of them were awesome. Yeah. The Pats Chargers game was not awesome. I had a great time and I was excited for my dad. And now we have Stewards, Texans, tomorrow. Yeah. Which the line has settled at three, it seems like, right? I've seen it at three, yeah.

I don't think it's moving. So what I watched this weekend made me even more convinced that the Steelers are the bet tomorrow. Because the... I think it's the same thing as that Chargers. I don't think they're going to be able to block. Oh, interesting. The Texans. So as good as their defense is, I think it's worse when you have the offense that can't block and you're on the road and a crowd like that.

I think that would be my takeaway. I thought my thing was there are three fraudulent teams in the playoffs right now, in my opinion, All different levels are fraudulent. I said the Panthers, I thought the Bears a little bit, and I thought the Steelers. And the two of them were played tough. And I think the Steelers also will. Oh, man, if Faron Rogers goes to New England,

come on. It's another win for you. So they beat the Pats in week three in a game where the Pats had five turnovers, including Ramandre fumbling as he's about to score. We also had the one yesterday, in the Bears game, the Christian Watson helicopter play where he fumbled on the half inch line. Just feels like anything full speed at the half yard line is going to go badly for somebody.

You just don't know. Yeah. But they recovered it. They got it. They did. That was a bad Bears moment too because it didn't go out of bounds somehow. And the Packers recovered. They didn't score because you had to place it at the one.

But eventually they did. See, I know we led with that. I still can't get over that game. That was the Packers were the right pick in that game. I know. They just were. That was a ridiculous Bears win. All right.

So we're going to, here's the plan for us. We're going to do guess the lines for the games that we have, which are three games. Did you see the times? This is news to me. Oh, do we have a schedule? What is it? Can I make guesses? Can I guess?

Can I guess the schedule? Yeah, yeah. Okay. I'm going to guess Broncos Bills is the first game on Saturday. If Fandle listed it correctly, you're right. Yes. Okay. I'm going to guess Seahawks 49ers Saturday night.

Yeah. Are you looking at this? No, I'm guessing. Patriots, whoever, on Sunday afternoon, early Sunday, because that has to be, the Monday night team needs enough days, right? Well, the Monday night team needs enough days, so Patriots are definitely playing Sunday.

Patriots hosting somebody. And then Rams, Bears, Sunday night. They have Rams Bears Day, which means we would do this again after your team play. No, please no. Really? Really? Is it a Fox thing? Let me see.

Must be a Fox thing. Fox must get the early game on Sunday. They must get their picks. I hope this is early. This is right. I mean, this is what's on a fan ball right now. I mean, I love Netflix. If it means we follow a Pat's playoff game every week, this is a good streak for us.

Yeah. Yeah. No, this is a good streak for you. Good for me. I think they would have put you Saturday night if they knew Rogers was playing, for sure. I think they want Rogers in a night game if they're able to do so. But there's no guarantee. Pat's Houston is almost like a shaky game.

Right, right, right. Could be ugly like the one today. All right. So a quick backstory for any new watchers we have here. Sal and I've been playing Guestalions. It was first, who did you start the game with? My buddy, Darren. The Parlay Kid.

Yeah, yeah. He used to hide in a closet so his girlfriend, now wife, couldn't hear us guessing lines because it was frowned upon back then. Now we're on Netflix. So you have the schedule. I start work for Jimmy Kim alive. We start doing it. I show up like mid-November 2002. The show hasn't started yet. We're sitting next to each other. Rested in 2002 through the playoffs. You're like, let's play guest alliance. We start doing it. Then the next year we do it at work. Then I leave. leave J-KO, we start doing it on the phone. We do it on the phone for like three years. Then when I get a podcast at ESPN, it becomes the Monday pod. And we've been doing it ever since. This is, I think, our 19th year. 19th year. So what happens is we guess the line, whoever's closer wins it. And I've won all 19 years for the new people. No, stop it. I won last year. You're right. You're jerk. You won last year. I'd have one more than last year. Yeah, no. I'm probably up like 10-7 lifetime. I know. Well, when you're shooting.

When you're allowed to swat the quarterback in the helmet, then what are we going to do? All right. So we're going to get the line. So we're going to say the first game is Broncos bills in Denver. That's what it appears to be. Okay. I've not seen the lines. Okay.

I think the Broncos are going to be favored. And I think it's in the Tic Tac zone, which we call for anything minus 1.5. And I'm going to say Broncos. One and a half calories. Yeah, yeah. Go ahead. Broncos minus 1.5 at home against Denver. All right, against Buffalo.

Oh, all right. So I get this one because I said Buffalo minus 1.5, and it is Buffalo minus 1.5. Okay. Let's talk about this. Well, they power rated them exactly the same as the Jaguars, right? But aren't the Broncos better than the Jaguars? The Broncos are the one seed.

Yeah. They're the one seed. They won 14 and 3. They're home. They also. And Josh Allen got the kick. She kicked out of them this week. Right.

they also have trouble eclipsing 13 points a lot of times. So I think they're factoring that. And who's betting Denver, right? I'm going to make my first Netflix hardcore prediction. The Broncos will be favored by next Saturday. Really? This will be Broncos by one and a half on Saturday. All right.

I think it had this is exactly what happened that Jags game. The line moved along, the line moved along, and then it flipped. that's my prediction interesting let me just make sure these are uh no i mean these these things flip all so much and then what we take a teaser

right we add six points to whoever the underdog is getting one and a half that doesn't seem to work all the time well the ones the ones today in real life that worked we can't do these in ringer 107 but all the 10 point 13 point teases hit right basically the charger unless you had the charges in one of them

any other version of any other version of any game that you wanted to tease. I know. Even the Eagles. The Eagles was, it ended at minus five and a half, 10 point T's, which I did, brought it to plus four and a half and it covered. They lost five four. Yeah.

Big. Very nice. All right. So Saturday night is Seahawks 49ers? Mm-hmm. I had trouble with this one. I wanted to go lower and then I was starting to think about where they would have to get it to make people bet on the 49ers that nobody believes in us team two weeks in a row.

and it's in Seattle and Seattle's had the week off I have Seahawks minus seven okay I had Seahawks minus six I thought that was division rivalry they'll chuck a point there away it's seven and a half so you get that

damn and you love Seattle I'm just telling you now they'll be in a parlority's for me really? Yeah I thought they should have won the last time they played by

25 points. That 13 to 3 game, that should have been like 30 to 3. Donald wasn't good enough. This is the perfect team. If they can get by, they have three playoff games with Darnold potentially, right?

So you get through this game where you're not playing a team that has a really good defense. Then next round would be Rams versus Bears. Potentially they could play the Bears would run by good defense either. Yeah.

Although they did stop the run in the second half. They might be able to get to the Super Bowl without ever seen Darnold under distress. any way. Right. If you could guarantee me, there's not going to be rust on this Seattle team. Yeah.

Having an awful week, I would love them. I would love it because I, I, the Denver, San Francisco's luck has to run out. All right. So then Sunday, we can't guess Patriots. The times haven't been announced, but the days are right. Bill's Broncos and 49 are Seahawks. Sunday, we can't guess the Pat's game, but we do have good news. we're, I'm going to do another

podcast tomorrow on Monday night and you're just going to be at the top of it. We're in a film 25 minutes at the top that's going to be in my pod. I have another guest after. So we're going to guess the line for that. Talk about the Steelers Texans. No makeup again? Let me know now. Don't.

We can, we're just going to all natural. Okay. All right. Yeah. Like John Malaney covered in makeup. I saw his show. Yeah. Some of the other podcasts that are coming in that. Like we have a bunch of ringer podcasts coming tomorrow that it will also be available on Spotify as well on video but no makeup yeah well some of the people we have will wear makeup I'm trying to set the tone yeah yeah just just be you I love don't worry don't worry about what you look like in 4K and people counting your whiskers

um so we can't guess pets but we can guess Rams bears yeah I had two lines that are within a half point of each other and I went back and forth and I went back and forth, went back and forth. This game's in Chicago. You know the Bears are going to be losing at halftime. Rams minus two and a half is my guess. All right. I said four.

I was like, Vegas, the books, Fandals, I'm going to fall for this. It's three and a half. I was a little high, but I was closer.

Oh, so you won. Two to one for the week. Two to one. So you could tie tomorrow. Big day to check in if you want. Wait a second. So Packers,

Bears, Packers were one and a half. Rams, two points more in Chicago after a game that Chicago looked awesome and felt like there's some mojo going now. That's weird. See, I looked at it as, they were

10 and a half at Carolina. And obviously they didn't cover that. They didn't come close to covering that. But I think they just took a touchdown off of that and said, let's see what the Rams could do. I think that, don't you think that ends at three? Yeah, I mean, the Rams are the perfect team to go up 25 points on the Bears and blow it in the fourth quarter.

Perfect. Outdoors, night game, something goofy happening. Caleb, it's funny, Caleb and Drake May are the same where I'm not really sure what to expect for them for the first hour and a half of the game because they're young. Yeah. But you also feel like they're never out of any game and that at any point they could just make an unbelievable play. Right. That play that May made to Hunter Henry was similar to the Caleb play on that fourth and eight.

Like the Caleb throw was crazier and he ended up in the air after he threw it. But it was same kind of like they just saw it. The throw had to be perfect. You have to have like a fucking great arm. You have to be able to throw on the move. And those guys are two of the best at it. Yeah. Caleb did the Jordan Jumpman thing too, right?

Yeah. That was no accident. Yeah, I think this will be, when you think like Mahomes goes down Burroughs doesn't make the playoffs like everyone's already talked about this but it does feel like a little bit of a changing in the guard even though those guys aren't that old

it does feel like there's a new generation May and Caleb there's something happening and then maybe Stroud tomorrow if he can have a good game against Pittsburgh that was a great class and yeah it paid dividends and after Daniel's last year yeah we watched so many bad

quarterbacks in that 1 p.m. slot from weeks 1 through 18 We're going to have Mendoza and a Bender in Vegas. Maybe he'll be the next one. Goes to Vegas. Gets completely corrupted within five minutes. I am in not only in the fantasy league with you, but I'm in this league that I've been in with my high school buddies

and their college buddies since 1990. Playoff counts? It goes all the way through, get to protect up to six guys on your fantasy team, and then we have a draft. And I had the first pick in the draft because I won. And I protected Drake May and Parker Washington and Jake. I didn't really have good keepers, but I had the first pick.

So I took Puka. And then I took Puka over Josh Allen. And my thought was like I have Parker Washington. I think the Jags are going to beat the bills. I'm hoping Trevor Lawrence is going to be there when it comes. There's four teams in the playoff draft. So one, two, three, four. I have five.

Like I'm really hoping Trevor Lawrence is there at five. Trevor Lawrence is there at five. Now I take him. Then I got E.T.N. in the nine. So now I have three drags. I have Drake May. I have it all set up. And I had 195 points with all of my guys today. But I lost like six of them. And I'm probably going to lose to our friend Steve who still has Alan Darnold and Stafford. Oh boy. And Cook and Harvey and Kenneth Walker and Diggs. And but this is this league's great. I don't know why people don't do

this idea where we it's just more fantasy i get five more weeks i guess so why does fantasy at the end after 16 weeks i'm going 22 i should end after three weeks to be honest with you i don't know yeah no that's pretty cool you know it's ironic about this though remember when we did the ringer draft you hated the jaguars like i'm not drafting a jaguar and then i hated Trevor lawrence and now he's rekindled by hatred for yeah exactly you you made that proclamation you're like he's going to be my most hated player in the league if he loses this game. Yeah. I saw there was an onion thing today about, or this week about

guy spends 3,000 hours on his fantasy team this year, wins $30 for second place. That was like, that it. Close to help. Exactly. Yeah. Okay. So we're going to do, we always do Parent Corner,

which is how long have you been doing Parent Corner? I can't remember. When did we start that? Before we even had kids, which people thought it was weird at the time. No, I mean, I guess, probably more than a decade, right? At least. Well, at one point, my young son was the star of Paracornor.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. For like three, four years in a row, just was killing it. And now he's untouchable. Well, now he's 18. He's like, I will kill you in your sleep if you do any sort of paracorder about me. Do not mention my girlfriend, I will put you in a home on a moment's notice. He's just really, really terrified me. A dozen years ago, you were talking about how he did all the finishing moves.

on his pillow and everything. And then he's like, you know what, pops, I'm going to do those for real on you if you mentioned me once now. When he was a kid, we would do the ones about when he would have the diaper and he would try to do the stink face on my wife when he had a gross diaper when he was like, too. Yeah.

Now he doesn't still do that? No, he does do that. Now he's like, leave me at a parent corner. It's a responsible kid. He's going to college next year. He's got a car. He's got a girlfriend. It's a nice kid.

Doesn't want to be in Parent Corner anymore. But you have, fortunately for us, younger kids, that could still be in Parent Corner, so you go first. I have a 12-year-old. I have a junior in high school and a junior in college as you do. Well, so about an hour ago, my son, Harrison, snagged a fly ball to end the game, and the South Bay Blue defeated O.C. Crush to win another fake gold ring.

So we'll take it. I think they're coming home now. Nice. Congrats. Yeah. We watched that on your phone or during the podcast? Yeah, no, no, no. That was golden globes. That was Patriots and it was South Bay Blue watching that.

But my other son went to, it goes to Oregon, big game came up against Indiana. And as he left for school, you know, like we went to drive back up to Oregon last week. I grabbed the shoulders and I said, dude, bring us back a championship. And then, you know, he informed me that he doesn't play for the team. He just watches on TV. Just what you want to do. Yeah. for a championship.

Yeah. So, but, you know, I said to him, I was like, look, if they beat Indiana,

we'll figure something out. Like, because you have to send the kid, right? Like if they, if they make the championship. So now they're losing by like 700 points

in the third quarter. And I text them. And I figured for sure he would think this is a joke. I was like, this is such a bummer. I got two tickets on the 50 yard line,

like 20 yards up for you and Cookie. I had you at the fond him blue and I got, uh, somehow, there's a jet going there and I was able to get you on there. And he was like, son of a baby, he's like so upset. I was like, now what do I do here? Do I tell him I'm joking around, uh, or, uh, let him think I'm father of the year or a decade or the century or, uh, but there's a risk in it too, because if Oregon comes back, I have to now come through on this. Yeah. So now I'm looking at the Oregon live line. I'm like, all right, I can get 70 to one. So if I put $500 on Oregon.

I'll get $35 grand and I'll be covered for this thing that I promised him. Let me just tell him I was kidding. I told him I was kidding. How'd that go? Not very good. So now I'm like the worst father. I went from best to worse. But anyway, don't promise things.

Don't joke with your kids, I think is the moral. Does your wife still cry when he goes back to college? I think she goes in a different room and cries. She knows not to do it in front of me because I'll make fun of her. If she, like, sneak cries? Yeah, yeah. But she was the one who said, go away. She's like, you have to go away.

Like, he could have gone local. It's so plenty of, you know, Cal schools out here. Yeah, exactly. She's like, you have to go. You have to live your life. You have to see what it's like to be away and regretted it. Like, I don't think he was, the asphalt was kicking back when he drove away. And that, she was upset.

My parent corner is about my mom, who I needed my mom. I had a birthday party, surprise birthday party for my wife. that ironically your wife was that's right um not a lot of people but um had to get my wife out of my house because we had to set up the house and her friends wanted to do this mafia theme and they wanted to dress up it was like a mob lives theme and they were all dressing like gumars and all your wife did a very good goodfellas by the way yeah yeah she was i think it'd been practicing she had a great time yeah um but uh i had to get my my wife out of the house five o'clock on Friday.

So we had to go to my mom's. I had to get my mom involved. So I came up with this whole thing about my friend Dave is one of the producers on jury duty. And it was like, it's going to, it's going to jury duty season two premiere.

And it's a mafia theme. So we have to dress up like we're mafia people. And we're going and we got to bring my mom because she's 100% Italian. So we're going to bring my, we have to go to my mom's house. We'll have a glass of wine with her. And we'll drive back.

and it's a paramount. And my wife just falls for her hook, hook, line, and sinker. I have a couple of my friends texting us. Like, are you going this week? I heard it's going to be really fun. So now the whole day she's dressing, getting what she's going to wear, her outfit, all that. She goes to buy something on Friday,

stops at my mom's house on the way home. And it's like 2 o'clock. And my mom, who like, anytime anyone comes over, she's just ready to, the wine comes out. Oh. So I noticed, I check on Life 360 and it's like 235 and my wife is at my mom's and I'm like, oh, no. Because, you know, this is a surprise party, a lot of boozing. Yeah.

Like you definitely don't want to start early. Everyone's arriving at what time? 630. Okay. You got a couple. So I FaceTime my wife. She doesn't answer. I call my mom.

She's like, oh, yeah, we're here. we just having some wine. And I'm like, so I text my mom. I'm like, what are you doing? You're supposed to be like the decoy. Like you're right. So finally get her out. She comes back.

We end up, we're on time. We go, five o'clock, go to my mom's. My mom is nervous. She's going to screw it up. Come back. Pretend that I forgot my key because I used my phone for my car. We got to stop by the house to get my key. We go in.

Surprise. It works. How long do you think my mom stayed? Oh, I was going to ask you this, but I thought it would sound insensitive. It's like 14 of my wife's friends. My mom's already had, you know, we had like a glass of wine. All these people where there's going to be food, whole thing. How long did she stay?

Over under, I'll give you over under 29.5 minutes. I'm going to say she's still there. No, I'm going to, well, I mean, the way you're phrasing this, it has to be over. The way, right? I mean, nine minutes. Oh, wow. Hugs everybody,

says, and then she's like, I got to go. And she's calling an Uber. No kidding. Wow. And I'm like, why aren't you going to stay?

We're having food. No, no, no, no. You said, no, no, no, you guys, and does the you guys thing. Mm-hmm. And is gone.

Wow. And it was just like, what, our parents just get weird. Yeah. Like, there's some sort, I don't know what the year is,

but it's definitely going to happen to us, right? Well, I hope we're still on Netflix at that point. Yeah, we will be. Let me defend her here, though. You just called her and told her, don't forget, you're a decoy.

Just be a decoy lady. No, I wanted her to come, though. Get out of my house, decoy. I don't know. It's a little bit. No? I don't know. She said the whole week, she kept thinking she was going to screw it up.

But I... Have you talked to about her since, or you just, like, didn't follow you. Because, you know, I told her about the Golden Globes thing. Right. And what she knew was on. And she said, I didn't watch, I refused to watch CBS. Maybe I'll see it online. CBS is canceled in my house.

Wow. She's at that age. Yeah. Yeah. She hates Romo. She's one of the people that hates Romo for no reason. She might not like the Romo and dance combo. But anyway, so that's it.

Our parents are going, I'm sure you have 20 stories about it. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I just can't figure them out anymore. It's like when they were talking about the cover three defense, the Panthers, when it was like, are they going to blitz? Are they going to go back and Stafford has to read? That's how I feel about my mom all the time. Right.

Is she blitzing? Is she going back and cover three? Like, what is she going to do? I just can't get a handle on it. That's good. Yeah, yeah. Listen, everyone's approaching 80. I think you just start to, you just wander a little.

My father's big thing is dry runs. So if there's a party in like March and he's like, he's like, well, he's like, What's the address? He'll go there like tomorrow and like dry, even if it's an hour just to get the lay the land on the roadhouse bodyguard. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. Assassination angles. I scoped it out. It's like, all right, you're not a scout on Jimmy Kim alive.

You're scouting locations for a hidden camera. Oh, my God. Yeah. I can't wait for us to get this nuts. I feel like we're still going to be gambling on football. I don't know what else is going to happen. Listen, you're wearing a shirt and a sauna and you swore off pizza. You're there.

We're in a hoodie on Netflix, first-ever Netflix pod. So every Sunday night, we're going to be live during football season. And then after that, you go away. You always come back on my pod. You're still on the ringer gambling show. And then I'm going to keep going on Sunday night. It's live here. And if you want to see Morrisau, you can see him on the Rear Gambling podcast,

which how did we do on the show this week? Like, okay, happy to see. We did good. On the pregame show, we had one Saturday and Sunday. We have one next Saturday and Sunday. I did all right. Pooka Nakua, by the way. He's just, I don't even think we mentioned them that much

except for getting hit by, I mean, it's a freebie touchdown. And then you just wait for the second one. I got plus 600 on two touchdowns. And Booty, your guy Booty is my favorite patron of all time. Plus 240 on 50 plus yards. I don't know if you saw he penned like this article about, you know, how he was a gambler. He mentions Fandle and everything.

I was like, great. This is one of us, and he's going to be on the Ringer pregame show with us, like three years. one of the things I liked about that article was he talked for a long time about how special Drake May was. He did? And I read all content where people talk about how special Drake May is. Hopefully he can bounce back. Rewened it next week.

All right. That's it. First Netflix podcast in the book. A bunch of ringer podcasts coming on here tomorrow along with some other ones. But I will be back with you tomorrow night right after we're not going live tomorrow night, but with the next podcast you'll see with us will be. talking about Steelers, Texans. What's your final prediction for that one?

Steelers win the game. More nonsense from the ayahuasca god. One more week of him. That's it. I think you're probably right on that. Thanks to Gahau. Thanks to Jack Wilson. Thanks to Eduardo.

Thanks to Chris. Yeah. Thanks to everybody, Netflix, who wanted to have us bring our video over here. It's been a, been a true pleasure. Good to see you, Sal. Good job by you. Good job by you, buddy. Must be 21 plus and President Select.

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