The Bill Simmons Podcast - Russ vs. Cam, Atlanta’s Pain, Murray’s Leap, the Annoying Lakers, and Guess the Lines With Cousin Sal

Episode Date: September 21, 2020

The Ringer's Bill Simmons is joined by Cousin Sal to discuss a nail-biter between the Seahawks and the Patriots, a miracle comeback by the Cowboys against the Falcons, the Chief’s overtime win vs. the Chargers led by rookie QB Justin Herbert, an injury-plagued NFL Sunday, another Vikings collapse, Buccaneers-Panthers, the 2-0 Chicago Bears, cross-off teams, and more (2:30), before guessing the NFL lines for Week 3 (56:18). Then they briefly discuss the NBA conference finals (1:21:35), before closing with Parent Corner (1:33:45). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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90 calories per 355 mil can. So why not grab some Miller Lites today? Your game time tastes like Miller time. Must be legal drinking age. Coming up, the Cuzz and I are going to break down a mildly wacky week two. We'll talk about a little U.S. Open and basketball at the end as well. First, our friends taping this. It is 8.42 Pacific time, Sunday night. Rough couple hours for me. I was so excited to watch the Lakers lose.

And then they pulled the game out of their buttholes. Anthony Davis. I don't know what Plumlee's doing on that play. And then an hour and a half later, it looks like the Seattle game's over. Carson slides on, looked like he was going to run for 10 yards, slides. Now it's second and three, third and one.

They throw it for some reason. All of a sudden, Cam has the ball back. He's driving down. Sal, I love Cam Newton. I really wanted it. Meanwhile, your team pulled one out of your ass. We've had a role reversal. What's happening here? I love it. Finally.

Finally. I feel like years before this happened. And I don't want to hear you don't care. I do care. Oh, you do care. Okay, good. good. You're going to behave like a real fan now, right? Like who's mad that they lost the game on a one yard line? I can't believe on Thursday I had to record a podcast

right after the Celtics blew the Miami game and tried to be a pro. And now it's second time before it is. I hated the play. I, look, running in a shotgun against an 11 man front I know Cam's name is Superman his nickname but no

Superman couldn't have done that I thought for sure they were going to run the fake sneak step back lob to the third string white tight end who nobody knows who it is I was like oh who's that guy I didn't know that guy was on our roster he just caught the game when he touched out.

I was waiting for it. And then he just ran into the teeth at defense. Yeah. So why run to the left? You're right-handed, right? So you want all your options available. It was just a straight run. Like, obviously, you want the ball in Cam's hands to begin.

But yes, you want that option for the jump pass and everything else that we saw that they couldn't stop the whole game. But they just did a straight run to the left, never a doubt. I couldn't believe it. That was so exciting. It was a bizarre game. I haven't seen the Patriots secondary get shredded like that in 10 or 11 years, since Brandon Merriweather was on the team.

Yeah. I mean, they gave up four TDs to receivers all last year. Now, granted, they had a really easy schedule last year compared to this year, but Wilson was just out of his mind until that last drive. They finally made a mistake near the end, and it was a great battle. And I think my big takeaway from the game is that the Patriots are good, because I think Seattle is a top four or five team, and the Pats hung in there with them, and they obviously have a trade to make. I don't think this is the receiving core they're going to have five, six weeks from now. I'm sure they're going to get Allen Robinson, one of these dudes. They'll go in and have a ton of cap space. But as an innocent bystander,

were you impressed by the Pats? Is this a potential contender? I was. I mean, at first I was like, well, there's two ways you can look at this game. They were down by 12 at one point. And if you don't count the pick six, it's like, all right,

their offense didn't really show up. But Cam was alive. He brought you guys back in the game and in the red zone. And we knew this going in, he is phenomenal. And especially inside the seven, which is why it's especially ironic that they lose the way they did lose, but Russell hustle and bustle. You can't give them enough credit before that last drive i think at one point he had eight touchdowns and seven incompletions which is insane and you and i in house were texting we're like what the hell is russ for mvp he was like plus 650 last monday he's gonna be plus 275 and then he overthrows that third and one which again i think that should be that tuck the ball in and run russ right you don't see that that much, except in that situation.

That's what it should have been. But a thrilling ending to a game that was lost. Yeah. As somebody rooting against Russ in that situation, when he's rolling out in that, I might run, I might pass. I just feel like he's getting two yards every time.

Scary, right? Yeah. So I was delighted that they did what they did. Yeah. It was weird. Collinsworth did this whole thing about Russ, which I think he does every year.

I think he has a seven-year streak of... I just... Ow, I don't... He's so underrated. I feel like we properly rate Russell Wilson. You and I have talked on this podcast for years. We are terrified to bet against him. I literally didn't bet against him last week.

I like the Falcons. I'm like, I'm just not betting against Russ. It's not fun. I think he is properly rated. And when you talk about like winning an MVP, they've just never thrown the ball, you know, with the kind of frequency you would need to win the MVP over these guys that throw for like 5,100 yards or, you know,

like what Lamar did last year. I feel like he's properly rated. Don't people think he's one of the three or four best quarterbacks? I think so. But I think one and two are so far beyond and above, and, you know, above and beyond, and I think they're talked about. Lamar and Mahomes are talked about much more than Russ. So in that regard, maybe he is not properly rated.

I missed it, or maybe I didn't miss it, because Michaels brought up the fact that Russ has never gotten an MVP vote. And Collinsworth says, that's my fault. And then they ran a play. And I don't know if he was able to. Did he explain it afterwards why it's his fault? I can't remember why it's his fault. Apparently, Russ had won the MVP and Chris Collinsworth didn't deliver the mail in time.

I didn't understand that either. He gave it to Jack Collinsworth and that's where it is. Wow. I i don't know i don't know what the hell happened there but it's chris collins that was my fault the year rusted to win the mvp i have no idea why i'm just rambling right now russian insists on not playing sunday night football if one of the broadcasters actually stole the award from him that's sad well he you know i, I know Lamar got a lot of attention because he was like the shiny new toy last year. Yeah. Right. I still think in a, in a big game or in a big playoff game, it's my homes and Wilson and maybe the way Rogers is playing this year, a little rejuvenation. I think he's in that conversation, but other than that, Lamar still has to do it on a big

stage a couple of times before he's in that conversation. Don't you think? Yeah, I think for sure. And Russell Wilson scares me as much as as much as anyone you just named, whether he's rolling out or not. And I mean, well, they have like four receivers now who are scary, right? You have more. Who is that? Swain.

Yeah. Metcalf. Lockett. Like they're four. Like, he can throw to anyone. And tight ends in there, too. It's scary what he has in his resume in Arsenal. I haven't seen Gilmore backpedal like that on receivers.

Yeah. What Metcalf, by the fourth quarter, he was afraid of him. And Gilmore was not only the best cornerback in the league, but he won defensive player of the year last year. And Metcalf, that touchdown he caught, perfect throw. Gilmour got beat, but he actually played it perfectly and put his hand in the right spot at the perfect time. And Metcalf just pulled it off.

And the irony, I was on a bunch of Pats fans' threads, all of us pointing out all the people we could have had when we took Nikhil Harry, who ended up with seven catches, but I think had zero YAC after as my buddy Jay Bug texted me. I don't think he's a disaster, but when it's A.J. Brown and

Deebo Samuel and Terry McLaurin and then obviously Metcalf, it's just tough. They went all in on this great receiver draft and probably got the fifth best guy. And he's supposed to be a burner and stretch the field and all those other things. Yeah, I will. So, Cam, did you see what he threw

for today? What was it? What did it end up? 397. Wow. Wow. His receivers were Edelman, Bird, Harry, Burkhead, Izzo, Myers, and Johnson.

I'll give you $10 if you can name the first names of all of those guys. Do you know what Johnson's first name is? It's Gus Johnson. He's their broadcaster-turned-receiver. So does Julian Edelman have 150 yards? 179 yards.

Rushing-wise,, Sony Michelle, who is almost DOA at this point, he was seven for 19. Cam was the leading rusher, 11 for 47. I mean, two touchdowns through for one. And I was glad Collinsworth said this because I don't, I feel like I watched my fair share of Cam

and you and I have always admired him. And we've always talked about, you know, different, different seasons where we thought he was underrated as an MVP pick, stuff like that. I don't remember him being this accurate. Do you? Right, I don't either. He's throwing seeds. It's been many years since he did.

Well, let's remember, he had all the time in the world, and we're going to get to this with a lot of teams, but maybe Miami and maybe Seattle's defense who really failed to rush the passer at all. Maybe those are not accurate depictions of what he's going to see. Maybe it is accurate what he's going to see, but he's been on target for sure. The one thing that I thought about is, do they come back from 10, 12 points down if there's a crowd in this game?

This is one of the few times I noticed a crowd might be a difference. And they talked about the decibels. I don't know if they were just throwing numbers out there, but they said they can get it up to 70 with the fake noise, but 120 is the real, is it what it really gets to? I guess that's accurate, but I felt like the Pats

got the bubble treatment in that regard. Well, so did your team. Your team wouldn't have come back from 29-10 with all the booze and people throwing quarters on the field we did have their own feces we had fans how many fans you have we there was me who was there were fans no no it got kind of loud i can't tell because they pipe and they mix the audio now between the real fans and the fake fans but um but yeah uh my team yeah well we're gonna talk about your team in a second.

My team, I had faith because of the Belichick infrastructure that this could be a 10 or 11 win team. They've definitely reinvented themselves. Everything they're doing offensively just feels so much different than last year. And then defensively,

it's basically just D-backs and D-linemen. They really don't have any linebackers. When they do, they're being used like Winovich. They're faster. They give up more big plays. I don't know whether Wilson is just great or whether I

should be seriously concerned about the defense. I might actually watch this game again to see how bad it was. Really, you should. We'll take a break here if you want to watch it again. I'll Really? You should. If you want, we'll take a break here. If you want to watch it again, I'll watch you watch it. But, uh,

I, do you think Belichick maybe gets too early to, um, to decide this, but well, I, I think he likes this offense better. Oh yeah. I think it's,

it's just, it's sneakier. It's, it's up his alley more, right? It's more, he gets to use more things in the kitchen. Yeah.

You know, versus like, I think we talked about this last year is that Brady season was falling apart where Brady had this offense where it was like the soccer team that has to make 11 passes before they score. It's just got to be perfect every step. And now it's like you have this dude who's just ad-libbing and moving around and stuff like that. I think if you look at the AFC, there's seven playoff teams this year. I don't see how

the Pats aren't a playoff team. Oh, wow. Oh, Kyle, snip that, please. That's great. We could use it. Let's say Certainty's Baltimore and Kansas City, right? So there's two. Yep. Then next here is Buffalo, New England,

Pittsburgh, Tenet, somebody from the AFC South. And then Chargers, Colts. Maybe one of those two. I was impressed by the Chargers today. I hadn't thought about it. Yeah, the Chargers were good. They were game. I would put the Steelers in there.

I think their defense is going to win some games. We talked about four receivers. They have the best four in the game. So you're saying Cleveland doesn't sneak in, and you're thinking there's not going to be two AFC South teams. I don't see any sneak in teams unless the Chargers. Yeah, maybe you're right. Who I thought was pretty good in that game.

You know, I know they lost Derwin James. I kind of wrote them off after that happened, but I thought they were really good. They controlled that game and Mahomes was just great. I mean, that game tying field goal drive that set up the OT, they had three holding penalties. That was 140 yard drive. Yeah.

And they still got it done and they had a 10 minute drive the chargers they kind of had the chiefs right where they want them and then it felt like the chiefs had the chargers right where they want them mahomes knew exactly how much time he had and needed to like to reach the ball out running left for the first downs and all that nifty stuff he always does and that field goal boy that was just to nail that three times in a row just not and i tweeted i was like it's just not fair that they have the best kicker along with the best quarterback. Shouldn't be like that.

Yeah, that was, I want to talk about that game in a second because there's a lot of gambling stuff. Yeah. I think the NFC is better than the AFC is where I was going with this Patriots thing. Because I think you have, I think we would have trouble getting to seven playoff teams in the AFC. I'm saying this after two weeks, but you start talking to yourself into the chargers,

Colts, teams like that for that, the six, seven seed. But in the NFC, you know, your division is just going to be you unless you completely fucked this up. Me and then us. Yeah. Well, I think the North is the one that people were wrong on. People like two teams to be strong in that division. If you believe in the Bears, they're the second strong team, right? Packers being number one. Do I have to? Do I have to believe in the Bears?

No, you don't have to. And if you don't, though, is the NFC strong? If you only have one from the East and one from the North? And then I guess you're going to have two. I think it's New Orleans, Tampa. And then I think three comes from the West. Three from the north. And then I guess you're going to have two. I think it's New Orleans, Tampa, and then I think three comes from the west. Three from the west. Yeah, we've been saying that. I don't see how it isn't three from the west.

And the fourth place team could be eight and eight or eight and seven going into week 17. Right. Well, it's fun to have the... Deep down, I was worried about the three and 13 Pat season. So it's a moral victory. It's, I don't know why I'm stupid.

I don't know why I'm rooting for the Seahawks who play the Cowboys this week. And if things go our way, I don't think the Cowboys are very good. We'll get to that. But we could be battling the Seahawks for a wild card. Like, like you just said, who's, but, but it's still, it's worth it for me to record with you four minutes after the Patriots. Look, I'm all sweaty. I'm literally sweaty. Kyle was

like, I'm not going to be able to start the podcast. I need to have a cigarette. Really? It was exact words from Kyle. I need to have a smoke. We're not starting right away, right? Are we sure it was just tobacco and that cigarette? Who knows? That was a tough game.

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Atlanta's onside kick strategy was iconic. My son, who knows nothing, is aware that you can touch the on-side kick before it gets to 10 yards. It's actually the biggest advantage the receiving team has. Right. Because they can just run up and touch it and it's over and the game ends. They were watching it like it was a Bryce DeChambeau putt. And it was just rolling for five yards. So that was my bad call. The good call is when you mentioned that Harrison Bucker, you and me in the house were texting because we all need

the Chiefs to hit a tease. And it's like, man, 53. Really? And then they get the false start. Yeah, 58. They're going to go for this now, right? No, he's going to kick a 58-yarder. It's like, does Andy Reid just want to go home? What's happening here? Then he makes one. Nope, that didn't count.

Timeout. Then he makes another one. Nope, didn't count either. And this guy was just going to keep making 58-yarders for the rest of the day. Have you ever seen anything like that in your life? They got better, the kicks. One of them just went inside the crossbar or the upright.

The second one, same thing. Third one, right down the middle. And Romo called it great. He's like, oh, that was close. It only split the upright perfectly. That was a great call. Can I play this good call, bad call thing too? You can keep going.

We think Subway would love it. Keep going. Well, first of all, I don't know. I think that was the best onside kick we'll ever see in our lives. I really do. I don't blame the hands team too much. That thing's spinning around a little bit like a helicopter. It looked like it wasn't going to make the 10 yards.

Yeah, you probably should jump on it right when it hits 10 yards, but I don't think there's a lot of incentive to running up and trying to grab that thing spinning like it was. I mean, you literally could run over to it and just kick it out of bounds, and it's your ball. Yeah, that's true. There's no bad situation before it hits 10 yards. You could have somebody take a running super kick

and just punt it at Jerry Jones in his luxury box. I love it. No, you can't do that. No. The other thing, I'll take the bad call from that same game, the Chiefs, Chargers, fourth and one. You got to go for it. You got to go for it. I know you grinded them out. Yeah. And OT, the Chiefs, you're lucky enough to win the toss. All right. You're not getting a touchdown here. Maybe you got to go on fourth and one. It's a 75, 80% chance that Butker, who they're lining up from 58 yards away is going to get in field goal range right i mean what is it like three first downs they had to work for it kansas city that they themselves had to go for it on fourth and one to get there but how many times you're going to be in that predicament um and we were checking the odds i know we had a ton of

money tied to teasers and money line parlays and everything already with the Chiefs. But I was like, oh boy, minus 165. And even in overtime, not getting the ball, they were favored. They're phenomenal. Let me tell you to stop. That was a good call. The 358 yarders. You know what else is a good call? Yeah. A sweet onion chicken teriyaki sandwich from Subway. Oh, delicious. I haven't had it. Another good call. Getting a free footlong when you buy two at participating Subway restaurants. Let's make some good calls this week.

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in front of you. Did Coach Belichick set you up with the Subway deal? I mean, this is, we're going back to our, this is our original roots, Simmons.

Remember, like, the winner of Guest Alliance going back to our original roots, Simmons. Remember like the winner of Guest Alliance? Oh yeah, hit each other as a sub. Yeah, beat the loser with a sub. It's great to be back. I love when we have things that I actually eat with my family. It's always a pleasure. Speaking of that Chiefs game, we had a lot of money tied to the Chiefs, as you mentioned.

It was all set up. And you would think after all the years of gambling, when every single team that was favored by between six and nine came through and covered a tease. And yet people like me and House and millions of others all had the Chiefs and stuff. Right. Never do any of us say, you know what?

Chargers plus nine. Take the points. Just going to do it. I'm just going to try to middle it. There's too much bad juju with this game. point just gonna do it I'm just gonna try to middle it it just there's too much bad juju with this game none of us do it

we just sit there and we watch in horror the Chiefs miss the obligatory extra point it's 7-6 and it's like oh that's good oh of course

now they're gonna win by two and not cover the two and a half tees or three or whatever you got and it was just one of those games I will say this though.

Mahomes. It's just nice when you're in that situation to have Mahomes. Sure. I would think Mahomes and Russell Wilson are the two guys where you're just going, it's fine. It's fine. As long as there's three minutes left,

it's fine. He's going to come through. He's going to do this. It's fine. Watkins goes down. Their backup running back goes down. Guys are getting to do this. It's fine. Watkins goes down. Their backup running back goes down. Tyreek Hill's getting cramps. I still

was like, no, he can do this. I just have a ton of faith in that, dude. You must feel the same. Yeah, why not? Why wouldn't you? I mean, he's phenomenal. And I don't blame us for not hedging, really. When Justin Herbert announced, I mean, it was announced like a minute before the game, right? He wasn't even able to notify his folks, right mean, it was announced like a minute before the game, right? Didn't even, wasn't able to notify his folks, right?

That he was in the game. I mean, he looks like he's Archie's age. Yeah, right? He showed him sitting on the bench and it was like, is this kid going to like Manhattan Beach High? Where'd they get him? And he had some zip on the ball and he did everything right. He made one mistake. He was getting all the, right, all the first reps and that.

Yeah, that one. And then Snead is a great player on defense for kansas city to come up with that interception that you're talking about but otherwise yeah he did all the right things but i would say chiefs had beaten them six in a row in la or san diego wherever they played the last six on the road against a rookie quarterback i thought we were in good shape there until they started playing. And I don't know. It's kind of what San Francisco did to Mahomes the first three quarters. They didn't give him a lot of room to breathe, right? He wasn't going to put up 40 points that game.

I guess more teams have to just learn that. You have to pressure the quarterback, I guess, is my expert opinion there. And they took out Clyde. Yeah, right. Kept waiting for Clyde to do some stuff. Feels like the Chiefs, that's like this new toy they have that they haven't really figured out how to unlock. And they made a lot of dumb

mistakes too, but I've watched every football game these first two weeks. I think the Chargers are pretty impressive. They're certainly better than I thought they were going to be. I don't know what their destiny is, but I was never an Anthony Lynn fan. Watched him on hard knocks this year.

And like, like so many others, he like really won me over. He was great. And I thought that, I thought they did everything they could in that game. I thought it was a really well coached game. They did a lot of smart stuff with the chiefs.

The chiefs were doing, and Romo is fantastic calling out like, oh, and Tyreek Hill's in this spot. They tried to do that. He's going to go underneath. I know. Anyone who complains about Romo's contract can go fuck off.

I get so excited when he's announcing the game. He's so much better than every other announcer. He's the best. He's the best indeed. The one thing they did say about Tyreek Hill, takes his helmet off after the touchdown, and they wouldn't have been able to go for two from the 17 if they call that the right way.

I think the officials are just so afraid of him and so glad that he's not committing felonies on the field that they'll just let anything else go. But no, the good things we're seeing out of the Chargers. Herbert, I think he had like second and 24, and then threw two passes to get the first. Just really kind of like veteran moves and not just overthinking things and the poise in the pocket.

I want to see all these guys. Maybe not Jordan Love for the Packers, but we saw Herbert. We know Joe Burrell's great through 61 passes without tossing a pick the other night. I want to see Tua. Let's say goodbye to the Dolphins. I don't need to see Fitzpatrick

and Gasiski. Enough already. The one thing that shocked me with Herbert was the couple times he dished out some punishment on some scrambles. He ran into dudes and the other guy basically had to

stumble off the field. I didn't realize he had that kind of oomph to him. That's his Pac-12 ways. That's what he would do. Yeah, he's good. Well, that was a nice one by the Chiefs. So going the big thing for me that I wrote down, I knew we were going to talk about the game at the top, but

all the injuries and stuff. Yeah, really bad. I watched, just coincidentally, I watched Rollerball with James Caan last night. My wife was delighted because she couldn't wait to fall asleep during that one. But, you know, Rollerball, this dystopian society where Rollerball is the sport for football

and it just gets more and more violent. And then they finally, they remove all the rules for the last game because they're trying to kill James Caan. And just guys strewn across the field being pulled off. It's a little bit what today felt like. There were so many injuries. Every TV

was just this guy's down, that guy's down, and some big ass ones. Looks like we lost Saquon. Looks like we lost Nick Bosa. Lost Drew Locke for two to six weeks in Denver's desperate attempt to kill your bet that you always make on them for every season. Awful.

Just a lot of them. But the bummer is that people knew this was how it was going to play out. They knew these guys didn't have the conditioning yet. They knew they didn't have enough of a preseason. But this is what makes the NFL the NFL. They're just like, fuck it. The show goes on. We'll just,

if you get hurt, we'll wheel you off. We'll bring in the next guy. And that's what we're doing. Maybe we won't even wheel you off. Maybe we'll just play over the body. Yeah. No,

McCaffrey is, is hurt too. I guess I'll be back, but Garoppolo is, you know, we don't, we don't know what, what's going to be with him.

I went up one point and this is why I think the Jets are the number one worst team, but at one point the Niners had like nine guys out. It was just insane. And most are like runs for a big gainer, and then he's out, and just their receivers are a mess, and they still Jets could not snip the end zone against this team. But, yeah, I know. I mean, every practice squad is going to be extended,

and that's why hard knocks, the cuts didn't matter as much because we knew we were going to be seeing. And that's why hard knocks, the cuts didn't matter as much because we knew we're going to be seeing a lot of these guys. It sucks. And like you said, a lot of the experts said this is going to be worse than the whole COVID problem because they're not the athletes haven't trained. You're not going to get in shape running plays on Zoom. Well, from what I'm hearing, Goodell is going to try to do a buy after week three and just

waive all the money for that week. So everybody. Oh, no, he's not. week. So everybody, oh no, he's not. Oh, is that right? No, he's not. Oh, you had me for a second. He's not doing that. So San Francisco, they were saying,

one of the announcers was saying they were worried about this game because the Jets have, that Jets giant stadium has bad turf. Yeah, right. Didn't they just build that stadium? Why do they have bad turf? I think they did.

Is this like that 1979? Yeah. It's not the Meadowlands, right? Yeah, it should be fairly new. They had a Super Bowl there. How long ago was the Super Bowl there? That was Peyton Manning. Four or five years, yeah. Maybe a little longer, yeah.

It should be better. Maybe they never got around to re-sodding the grass, or the fake grass, as it is. Jesus, come on new jersey i thought it was funny that that the or ironic at least that san francisco flew all the way to new jersey seeking out better air quality i mean when do you ever see that and they're staying there because they're playing the giants this week yeah it's probably a safer place from covet too yeah well we sniffed this out before the season, or at least I did.

I tried to talk you into it. San Francisco is the year from hell team. Yeah. There's always one in the AFC and there's always one in the NFC. And I couldn't totally figure out who the AFC team was going to be. And I never really went all in on one.

It was between Buffalo and Baltimore. And basically, I think I picked Buffalo to make the playoffs, but just not to be as good as people thought. San Francisco, I think I picked Buffalo to make the playoffs, but just not to be as good as people thought. San Francisco, I was like, they're not making the playoffs. But you didn't know. So when you say three teams in the NFC West make it, you're saying San Francisco's in fourth place, huh?

Yeah, I think they're going to be the fourth place team. Wow. I mean, they're banged up now and it's bad. But the only reason I like them more than other Super Bowl champs or teams that lost in the big game was because, of all shanahan's running it's it's crazy this uh his rpo and everything else it's it's like no one's ever seen before the quarterback gets better usually in his second year and they hadn't shed any of the coordinators so those three things i thought they had going for them maybe not 11 and and five, but I thought nine and seven.

But now, now they're in trouble. It's a mass unit every week. Yeah, I think they're the most injured team. Today they lost. They lost Bosa. They lost Boster,

which hurt my fantasy team even though I destroyed house. Yeah. Solomon Thomas. Jimmy G went down. But they, there's some Nick Mullins buzz that it'll be interesting to see

if he ends up playing a game and kicking ass if he would just take the job. Right. At that point. He's got the Giants, so. Well, so I was looking at that NFC West, people still don't take the Rams seriously.

No. It seemed like they were going to be the everybody's on this team team gambling wise against Philly and then the line stopped and reversed and they were underdogs by the everybody's on this team team gambling wise against Philly. And then the line stopped and reversed. And they were underdogs by the time the game started. And that was a weird, that was a weird, that was a sharp game. The Eagles with a sharp pick and then they were the trendy pick.

And then everybody had the Eagles. And like you said, the line went from plus one and a half to minus one and a half, minus two. And then they added the gate. I mean, it's just really, I don't know, is Goff better? Is this three-man wrecking crew at running back better than Todd Gurley? Or is it just the fact that Aaron Donald gets in on every play? This makes the quarterback uncomfortable no matter what you do to him. Double team him or leave him free.

Well, blue chippers. And the reality is they weren't that bad last year. They were nine and seven. It's reality is they weren't that bad last year. They were 9-7. It's not like they were 4-12. They were 9-7 and lost some dumb games. Greg DeLague missed a kick at the buzzer against Seattle. They were the only team with a winning record to not make the playoffs. Yeah, they didn't have a long way to go.

I bet on them to win the NFC before the season. And the reason was, this is a team that literally mortgaged their future to win right now. So why wouldn't they be good right now? They have no first round picks. They went all in on a couple of these dudes. I like that team. Arizona did everything they needed to do in that Washington game. I think we learned, House and I were texting about whether to go bigger on Arizona after

watching Philly. Cause that Washington went over Philly became less impressive after you watch Philly for like, Oh wow. Maybe, maybe that Washington team's not that good. And Kyler's is great. And,

um, I gotta tell you, you remember how much I love Lamar last year? He's on both of my fantasy teams. It was just real true love for about four months there. This is Kyler. Me and Kyle. It's transferred to Kyler Lamar last year. He's on both of my fantasy teams. It was just real true love for about four months there. This is Kyler. Me and Kyler. It's transferred to Kyler.

Lamar, I still root for Lamar. We're still on really good terms. That's all right. Yeah. We're still friends. Okay. But Kyler is really, really special. It's really nice to have him,

especially in these late games where there's only three games because they have 10 games early and then the three games late. So you actually get to watch. I don't know if you could do this anymore. The quarterback of your team that you root for is a dynamic, you know, anything could happen on any down quarterback. I don't know if you could take a lot of interest in

other teams, quarterbacks. It's not sure. Days are over. Cam's been I'm out of, I'm over the moon. I know Kyle is too. All of us. He's so much fun to watch. Any sort of misconception I had about

the warts in his game or stuff, and I always thought even betting on him or against him, stuff like that, he would have these stretches where he just wasn't that accurate. Yeah. We always said, we always pick it out, whether it's in basketball or football, like, oh, he he's playing hurt we're about four minutes away here from hearing someone a sideline reporter tell us that cam layton's hurt right so that that was kind of his shoulder looked

banged up it was banged up but not seeing even a whiff of that uh this year he's throwing bullets and really carrying uh yeah you know a pretty mediocre supporting cast. The difference with Kyler Murray is the Hopkins piece. They're running the same plays that the Pats are running with Nikhil Harian. When it goes to Hopkins, he breaks three tackles and goes 20 yards and cuts back in and makes two other guys miss.

I mean, that's probably the most electric combo right now, right? Hopkins could be better with Arizona than he was with Houston. I mean, it's not anything against Desha right now, right? Hopkins could be better with Arizona than he was with Houston. I mean, it's not anything against Deshaun Watson. They just don't protect him. Deshaun Watson either leads the league in sacks taken or is in the top three for the last three or four years. You don't seem to have that problem.

Again, it's early. They played Washington and they beat up on a San Francisco team that was injured. But it seems like Murray has good protection to throw to him. And he's four times a game just makes some crazy play. Yeah. Where it's like the defense does everything right. And he's like, cool. And he just runs for 16 yards.

And that's the stuff Cam does too. And the Pats, as great as Brady was was six titles, greatest quarterback of all time. The one element that was always missing was the, this play broke down. Can you add lib something cool? And Kyler to me is the closest I've seen to a video game quarterback. Like, like, you know, when you're playing Madden or something and you just want the guy who can just roll to his right and run for 11 yards anytime he wants. Vic was like that last decade. And Kyler reminds me of Vic. It was funny because Vic was on Rosillo's podcast

basically saying that, like, this guy's me. This guy's right-handed me. And he is. And so now it's like a four-man race, I think, for MVP, right? And now you're going to get Mahomes against Lamar next Monday night. But Kyler and Russell Hussle and Bustle Man Muscle are right in there in the top four. It's going to be interesting to see how their odds change from week to week, especially Who was the favorite?

It was Mahomes or it was Lamar? Oh, no, it was Mahomes. In fact, Lamar was six to one. That's what I was thinking. The incumbent at six to one is pretty's what I was thinking. Like the incumbent at six to one is pretty good odds, you know, with Lamar. But now man, Russell out of nowhere.

And, uh, and Kyler is to be taken seriously, especially if they win 10 games, which is not, uh, not out of the, uh,

out of the realm of possibility. They're favored again this week. I don't ever remember the MVP being decided after week two. I'm sure there's going to be more value for us, right? Yeah, it should. At some point, this will ebb and flow and somebody will drop.

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So I did some research. That was the biggest Falcons choke job ever. Yeah. Wait, hold on. It wasn't. Oh, it wasn't? No, they had a 28-3 lead in the Super Bowl. That was an awful loss. Well, in a way.

If you had the Falcons money line, can you imagine? I mean, bad enough being a Falcons fan, but imagine having the Falcons money line, can you imagine? I mean, bad enough being a Falcons fan, but imagine having the Falcons money line maybe parlayed with two other teams, and you're just like, oh my God, I did it. There was some kind of stat that I saw. Wait, bear with me here, and cut this down to a normal, what this would be.

But the Falcons had 39 points with zero turnovers in their loss against the Cowboys. Entering today, teams were 440 and 0. 440 and 0 when scoring 39 points at least with zero turnovers since 1933. 440

and 0. They had no turnovers. Last week, we had the Bears came back from 17, which had happened four times in the last 799 or something since 06. This week, we made history again. It was bizarre to watch because I never for a second thought

your team was actually going to win. I didn't either. I had it on because I had it on for fantasy stuff and I was enjoying it, but it just seemed like every time Atlanta wanted to drive down the field, they did. And then as it got closer near the end, for some reason,

they had that weird drive where all of a sudden Gurley was really involved. And it's like, you guys can throw anytime you want for 10 yards. What are you doing? It kind of did feel like, you might not want to admit it, but this is what was going on against the Patriots when it was 28-3. And then Julio Jones making great catches. And then for some reason, they just don't want to put the game away. And they got a little help from Mike McCarthy.

And I'm sorry. I don't, I know the new books and the new updated charts say go for it on two when you're down nine. But I hate that. I absolutely hate it. I don't get, I don't get it.

You're only risking killing momentum of your team. Your team is going to play better defense when they're down eight versus nine. They just are, but the Cowboys got lucky. And like I said, with that miracle onside kick and a little lapse in that Falcons defense, which we knew wasn't good anyway, uh, right back in it. I mean, but a game all of a sudden he had, what do you have? 400. What did my guy have? 450 yards, 34 for 47. Unbelievable. You're down 20 to nothing uh yeah yeah it was almost 29 10 at halftime yeah and yeah i i still don't feel like your defense ever really stopped them ever i guess

they did on that last drive when they forced the pump but the plays are really bad they ryan got sacked which seems to be a habit of his when protecting big leads. It's like, hey, the one thing you can't really do here is get sacked. Somehow he did that. I was thinking,

Atlanta is kind of the stealth fan base. Not just the Falcons, but the whole city that just gets kicked in the nuts that doesn't get enough credit for it. I don't really know why. Yeah, it's true. In the last 15 years,

Michael Vick dogfighting scandal, Mm-hmm. Pats Falcons, the Luka Doncic trade. They traded Luka Doncic. They had the pick. He went in the spot that they had. They traded backwards and didn't take him.

Mm-hmm. The Joe Johnson contract for like $180 million, whatever that was, that was depressing. The Tomahawk chop got canceled this year, right? Right. Can't do that anymore

at the Braves games. The Richard Jewell movie sucked. No, I was just going to add that. Their one title was that weird Braves title after the lockout when everybody was like mad at baseball.

Yeah. It's kind of like a half title. The Atlanta Hawks, they moved there from St. Louis. Zero NBA Finals in 55 years. And The Slugger's Wife was a really bad sports movie. There's more, but that was

just a preliminary list. It's rough. Atlanta, nobody cares. Nobody cares for people like Rembrandt Brown and the poor, tortured Atlanta Finns. Poor Rembert. Yeah, and we didn't see odds for a first coach fire, but I think if we're making our own right now, is it Quinn at the top?

Is it Gase? Is it Patricia? I don't know. I don't know. Well, you texted me before that the Vikings might have been the worst team we watched today. I think Mike Zimmer has to... You were so afraid of that guy. You had the Colts all over the place team we watched today. I think Mike Zimmer has to, you were so afraid of that guy.

You had the Colts all over the place. You're going to blow this game. I was like, they're terrible. Like cousins quarterback rating, like late in the third was zero. Like I, he,

I know he says he doesn't want to die or he'll die if he has to, but for COVID, I don't think the fans want him to die, but they might be like, just step aside. Let's see what this Mannion guy's got, because is this just going to be them the whole year? I was so scarred from Colts-Jags

last week that it was like 18-3. The Vikes that had three turnovers, the Colts hadn't punted yet, and I was just racing through all the scenarios that Phil Rivers was going to fuck me on that bet, but he didn't. I will say, you lose years on your life when you bet Phil Rivers only because of his body language.

When things are going bad. I think it was 19 for 25 today. He wasn't bad at all. But body language-wise, you don't want to watch that guy when he's struggling. Well, the other thing is, it was a little like the Jags game. They left so many points on the table. Like TY just dropped a touchdown. Right. 40 yarder right in his hand, but it felt like they could add 40. I don't know if the Colts are good or not. They had a couple

injuries today too. But like, if you told me the Colts are going to be, you know, in week 17 with a one game lead trying to finish out the AFC South. I wouldn't be surprised, would you? No, I think Jonathan Taylor's got some, you know, it's got some juice with you have like 26 carries 101 yards. And yeah, and if Hilton stops dropping balls, you think eventually he'll get in sync with Phil Rivers. They got, you know, they got nice defensive players. They got from San Francisco. So Buckner, but I don't know. I think, I don't know. Maybe the Texans fall back a little bit.

They have a tougher first six games than anybody else. They might, they might kind of be out of the mix and it could be Tennessee. And I just hate that division. I don't know. I just, they go back and forth. I know people could say the same about mine and you know, you might have a seven to nine team winning that division,

but the AFC South is such a crap shoot. I made a list of all the 2020 quarterbacks. You might have a 7-9 team winning that division, but the AFC South is such a crapshoot right now. I've made a list of all the 2020 quarterbacks I'd rather have than Tom Brady. Really? How closely did you watch that Bucs game? Not too much. I started watching closely when they were down 7,

and then Bridgewater threw the pick, and then I let it go again. He wasn't good. First of all, he underthrew the flea flicker. It was an easy touchdown. He underthrew it by 12 yards. He had an awful pick. He fumbled a handoff.

Probably like seven, eight other passes that were just off. And then you don't get any of the scramble stuff, anything like that. And so I was like, all right, 23 for 35 to 17, a touchdown interception, kind of similar to what he would do last year, I think. Right.

Yeah. Now this is the second year of whatever, you know, he's 43 years old. So you'd rather have my homes, Lamar Wilson and Rogers. No question. Yeah. You'd rather have cam. You'd rather have Kyler. You'd rather have Cam. You'd rather have Kyler.

You'd rather have Deshaun Watson for this year. Are you talking about if you're Tampa Bay or if you're... I'm just saying if you could have any quarterback. Yeah, we're doing a draft. Okay. Dak? Yeah. I'd rather have Dak.

Matt Ryan? Yeah, I think he's more accurate. I do. Stafford? I don't know. That's where it gets nice, right? Big Ben. Right.

Yep. All right, so that's four, seven, ten quarterbacks. Stafford is maybe. Tannehill? I don't know. I'm not a Tannehill guy, but Jesus, he puts up good numbers lately.

Four more today. I mean, since he got the Tennessee job, his numbers, he's like one of the four best quarterbacks in football. Yeah. Joe Burrow?

Nah, not yet. Not yet. Josh Allen? I don't get it, but he is stretching the... Maybe Diggs is the difference maybe that is what he needs no

I think I'd rather have Brady than Josh Allen Wentz no Minshew not a Wentz guy no come on these guys are fun

and they have little runs here and there but alright so we said definitively there are 10 quarterbacks now better than him. Interesting. That hasn't happened for 20 years. Oh, I think last year you would have said,

well, first of all, he wasn't even drafted in our fantasy league last year. I know fantasy points is different from everything else, but when you say last year, there were 10, 10 or 12, just how it is. He still had the mystique. I, and there were still people like, no, he's receivers. He can't get it. And everyone was making excuses, but at some point you kind of are who you are. Well, I think Evans is phenomenal,

right? Like he, he has a connection with him, but I think he gets there. Godwin's hurt now. I don't know what he was expecting from Gronk, but you can forget about that. That's not going to,

that's not going to materialize. It reminds me when I was a kid, Dave Cowens retired. And then like a year later, That's not going to materialize. It reminds me, when I was a kid, Dave Cowens retired. A year later, he came back and played for the Milwaukee Bucks for a year, but he wasn't Dave Cowens anymore. It was just fucking weird. It's Gronk. It's got

his name on the back. He's number 87, but that's not where the similarity's at. Right. He's shrunken down. Also, it's just a weird offense. It's just like he's notunken down and he's um and also like it's just a weird offense it's just like he's not used to throwing her for first down and getting a holding call and bringing it back like they showed his face is like wait a minute they could do that like yeah you were very spoiled in new england all these years yeah you didn't have a lot of first downs called back for holding

uh some uh some linemen uh clutching on to anybody but But I think that was probably the biggest overreaction of week one. I'll eat that one. I think Tampa will make the playoffs even if they're 9-7. Well, we weren't arguing whether they were a playoff team as much as what he had left. I know. But what did we do that thing

where, all right, defend your point or something? What was that? Oh, defend your overreaction. Yeah, that was my overreaction. We were intentionally dialing it up. I'll say this, though. Well, I wasn't dialing up the part where I think he's just old now, but their defense is good. And I think it got

tired in the second half just because they're playing in Florida, and I think both teams got tired, but their defense is active, and they have guys, you know, they can get, like, the sack on third and 11, and they can get the tip ball, and they can say, they have guys, you know, they, they can get like the sack on third and 11 and they can get the tip ball and they can say, they, I don't know.

They, they have some boot chippers. Maybe four net could have that breakaway run that he seals a game that you never really had with new England. You know, you had to, you had to do get, you had to kill the clock with short passes.

Maybe that's his best case scenario. I think for net unbelievable, um, cover.. Unbelievable cover. Did it cover the over too? That good G4 net play? 47.5. I had teased Tampa with the over

and it was going to be Tampa covering, but then the over was going to push. That's fun. They must have gotten killed with teasers. Every favorite one that didn't cover, but then the over was going to push. That's fun. They must have gotten killed with teasers. Every favorite won. They didn't cover, but every single favorite won starting third, except Philly. And if you want to count that as

a favorite. The Chiefs was a win, but it didn't feel like a win after. It felt like a survive. I was like, I didn't enjoy it. I wasn't happy that I won all my bets. I was just just like I just need a drink but let's one more thing do we have cross off teams yet

man I think we have too many there's some bad teams I think this year is highlighted by injuries and really bad teams maybe I'm over running but the Jets are really bad I have four legit bad teams overrunning, but the Jets are really bad.

I have four legit bad teams. All right. Go ahead. Let's hear them. No, I wanted to hear yours. My list had four. I'm going to count Cincinnati. I know everybody's head over heels in love with Joe Burrow. I think they could still win four games. I'm sorry.

Cincinnati, the Giants, the Jets, and I'm going to say Detroit. Oh, I did. Cincinnati, Giants, Jets. That's three, isn't it? I have to choose between Detroit and Miami. I'll go Detroit. I think they're bad. Interesting. I had two different teams than you. All right. You have Miami in there and you have Denver in there. No, I have Vikings, Jets, Giants, Dolphins.

Okay. I don't know what's going on with the Vikings. I really don't. I think the Vikings are just bad. Well, let's look at it this way. Which 0-2 team has the best shot at making the playoffs? I thought it was the Vikings. I always forget. We always do this for week three. I always enjoy this.

Well, so is it Minnesota? Is it Houston? Or is it Philly? Or am I missing somebody? Alright, so here are the 0-2 teams for people listening at home. Miami, the Jets, the Bengals, Texans, Broncos, Giants, Eagles, Lions, Vikings, Falcons, Panthers. I would say the Falcons.

The Falcons have the best shot at making the playoffs as an 0-2 team. You'd have to get the seventh spot, right? Could they go nine and seven? I think their offense is good. It is. Offense is good. Their defense is not good. I'm trying to is good. It is. Offense is good. Their defense is not good. I'm trying to figure out.

So we're leaving Minnesota for dead. Like everybody loved this Vikings team. This is not me. The blue chippers on defense on every level, even though they're just getting to know each other, they lose a lot of guys. Uh, we're,

we're down on Kirk cousins. They can't come back. Yeah, you're right. I guess they can't be a cross off yet. I just, they got killed in both games. They got killed last week. They got killed this week.

So that has to mean something. Right. And Philly's kind of the same story. Yeah, Philly had a lot of injuries though. Yeah. I'd still want to see what that team looks like when they're actually healthy. I actually think the Giants might be worse.

They're 0-2. Only a minus 14 point differential. But I test. plus now they lost Barkley. That's got to be a bottom 14, though. Where is their scoring going to come from? Danny Dimes might have a couple exciting games, but they're not for the long

haul here. The reality is the Giants and Jets might be the two worst teams now. No Barkley and the Giants. And the Jets are... I mean, the receivers, Yeah. No Barkley and the Giants. Right. And the Jets are, I mean, the receivers, they were thrown out today and it was like,

oh my God, Bershad Perryman's hurt. Right. And then it's like, now we're bringing in the janitor. He's crowded and flat. Yeah. I fought so hard for Sam Darnold

and I guess a lot of it's not his fault, but, and Le'Veon Bell is out and all that stuff. But I thought they would be better than this. Disgraceful. I guess this is why your Patriots do have a shot. The Dolphins are in the division. The Jets are still in the division.

That's never going to change. You made the key point with the Dolphins, though. If Tua can play and be good. Yeah, put him in. We don't know how long we're going to live. Let's throw all these guys in. Let's say it. Fitzpatrick is like when you have a French bread pizza in the freezer. It's in the back. You're like to live. Let's throw all these guys in. Let's say it. Fitzpatrick is like when you have a French bread pizza

in the freezer. It's in the back. You're like, cool. You get hungry. You make it. It's like, man, these are great. I should have French bread pizza

more often. I like that. If you had it every week, you'd be like, oh, man, French bread pizza. I keep burning my mouth. Yeah. You pick the beard hair

off the crust. Yeah, I know what you're saying. But that one time, it's like, oh, man, I really like French bread pizza. All right. Who's the full of shit team? What 2-0 team is... Oh, the full of shit team. Who's our Mike August team?

Mike August is a dear friend of ours, but he's kind of full of shit. So who's our Mike August team of 2020? Oh, that's easy. It's the Bears. The Bears, huh? If we're just saying what 2-0 team is full of shit, it's the Bears. The Bears. We're just saying the two, what two and O team is full of shit. It's the Bears.

They stink. Bears more than the Bills. The Bears almost lost to the Giants. I know, but you can't get them both ways. You can't be like, oh, they shouldn't have won the game.

They came back in and, oh, they shouldn't have won the game that they were up two touchdowns. Right? They stink. The Bears stink. I like them. I like them. I like them.

I do. That's the kiss. I do. Well, you know, there's one team that always gets lucky and is propelled from their nonsensical wins, and I think that's the Bears. I think they do just enough. This is the first time we're doing it this year. What is it? Let's go through their schedule. Oh, we're doing it already year. What is it? Let's go through their schedule. Oh, we're doing it already?

Montgomery, like 130 total. Actually, we're going to take a break and then Mike and the Mad Dog are going to go through the Bears schedule. Ah. All right, we're going to do Guess the Lines in one second. You know, we're teaming up with FanDuel again for this football season in a whole bunch of ways, including the free ringer mega contest on FanDuel.

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All right. 2-0 Bears. Dog. Bears at 2-0. Go ahead. Hit me with it, Mike. Week three, Atlanta. Home against Atlanta.

That is a miserable defense. I am taking the Bears. 3-0. It's at Atlanta. Does that matter? Yes, the Bears, 3-0. It's at Atlanta. Does that matter? Yes, that matters. 2-1. Indianapolis.

Home against the Colts. I am going Trubisky over Phil Rivers, 3-1. Tampa Bay home. A win, and that's where people start doubting Tampa for real. 4-1. At Carolina. At Carolina. Mike, I'm going to say they get tripped up there.

Teddy, two gloves, does a good job, and they win 4-2. At the Rams. At the Rams is another weird upset game for them. That's 5-2. Oh, that's a Monday night? You have the Monday night upset? That's right. Then they go New Orleans at Tennessee, Minnesota at Green Bay,

Detroit, Houston at Minnesota at Jacksonville, Green Bay. It's not that hard of a schedule. You could give them two wins against Minnesota if they're going to show up like this. Well, speaking of schedules, week three lines. Do we have any London games?

No London games. Although this Thursday game you would think would be a London game. Well, Thursday night. I think it has been a bunch. We guess the lines every week. I'm killing you this year. I'm up to nothing. Yeah, I'm the 0-2 team that's going to make the playoffs.

Let me change that. Jaguars at home playing the Dolphins. I have the Jaguars favored by two and a half. I had that. Oh no. I had three. It is two and a half. You get that exactly. Oh man. I wanted them to win that game so badly. That would have been so fun.

I'm going to say something that has almost definitely been said on an ESPN show. I'm not trademark say something that has almost definitely been said on an ESPN show I'm not trademarking this but I realized it today and if somebody else said it my apologies Minshew

is the guy that I don't watch college football he's the guy I thought Baker Mayfield was going to be when you watch Minshew in Jacksonville games and he's just doing stuff, and he's making throws, he's getting the shit kicked out of him, he's coming

back, he's rolling out, he's throwing across his body, and he's got a ton of energy and his team totally believes in him. And he's hanging around in this Tennessee game when Tennessee's way better. And you say, man, this guy's really good. And that's what I thought Baker Mayfield was supposed to be.

What am I missing? Nothing. You are so boochy gross right now. That is ESPN. No, I hadn't heard that before. I actually hadn't heard that before. But I think that's good. I think they are going to be in a lot of these games.

It doesn't really make sense because they try to sell their team off. But then skill position wise, it does seem like Minshew has practiced with these guys before. I think that's the most you could say about a team, right? That they look like their offense is in the flow. Yeah, that's it. And Derek Henry didn't go crazy on them by any means. So not bad.

We had them for worst team in the league, and I almost think that's a rip up bet. Yeah, I think so too. As long as the New York team is around. If Minshew gets hurt, maybe not, but if he's healthy, I don't see that team being the worst team in the league. He's really good. It would be fun if Tua played this game. Yeah, let's get that

going Thursday night. Jags-Dolphins or Lakers-Nuggets game four, higher rating? Well, what was last thursday i never looked into it like uh last thursday was your team right against the cincinnati did we find out what the ratings were there yeah i think the football game did way better i think the football game has to do better yeah doesn't it because it's uh you know it's so funny when we grew up we didn't give a shit

about ratings what did we care about ratings? I still don't care. I know. I feel like I don't care either, but I need to look and talk about it because people we follow on or whatever are always talking about it. But it's not like any of the leagues are going to go away because one did better than the other Sunday marquee game. Seahawks Cowboys at Seattle. That's a great one, man. you guys really could have been 0-3. Yeah. That's unbelievable. I got to say, it would have been much more fun

if you lost the Atlanta game. For who? The whole, just from a sports talk standpoint. It's a more fun story if they're 0-2. Everyone's going nuts. What do they do? Should they trade Dak? It's just like there's a million fun outcomes.

Oh, McCarthy would have been on the hot seat for sure, right? They would have been talking about that. How do we blame these losses on him? He sits hot anyway because I think he's shitting in his pants during these games. So his body temperature is warmer. That is so rude. So rude. They're a mess, though, on defense. They have injuries all over

the place. Their offensive line, it's overstated that they have a really good offensive line. It might be that they have a really good offensive line it might be below average now if uh tyron smith is you know has an extended injury if he's going to start sitting games and uh travis frederick is out already and lily collins you know all these guys are important cogs and you see um dac moving around the prescott and the prescott in the pocket uh it's a little little gingerly i think. Now he threw for a crazy amount of yards. But taking you

out of the equation, that's why I was rooting for Seattle. I'd much rather them come off a win than a loss and need this week three game against Dallas. What do you have for a line? You mean if I wasn't in the equation, you would have rooted for the Patriots? I might have. I mean, deep down, that's who we're battling in the NFC. But

no, I hate you so much. I had the Seahawks by four, and I think I hit it exact. Well, you hit it close enough. I had three and a half. It's four and a half. So you are closer. You get that. You're up to nothing.

I don't think your team's very good. No offense. No, it's going to come down. This kind of game is going to be similar if Dallas is lucky to tonight's game where they're going to have to have the ball last. Shootout. Yeah. Whoever gets the last. But let me tell you that that game changed. We didn't talk about this play that Jamal Adams chasing down

Cam and then that was a three instead of a seven for you guys. And Cam thought he had the end zone there. That was a huge huge play. And then they went up double digits after that. That was a great trade. That's the kind of guy. You give up these two first, but they're at the end of the first round.

Cause Seattle, you have Russell Wilson. You're always good. Right. It's just like, cool. We'll just add this blue chipper. You know,

when the Rams did it with Jalen Ramsey, it's just not, not as much of a certainty that you're going to be like a 10 winning up team. And that, that pick might actually be a decent pick was with Seattle. If Wilson's healthy, the. Right. It's going to be in the mid to late

20s. It just is. Four games in the rewatchables. Rewatchables? And the watchables. They made movies out of these games already. Patriots Raiders. Home. Vegas coming to New England. I have the Pats

favored by five. You went light. I get it by a half point. I have the Pats favored by five. Oh, you went light. I get it by a half point. I said seven and a half. It's six and a half. That's a little too high. Well, short week for Vegas. We don't know what to see out of them.

Some of these teams that haven't played, normally you don't care so much, but you probably have to account for three injuries, right? The way things are going. You would think. Three injuries per Monday night team right now. I like the Raiders tomorrow against the Saints. Getting like six points, whatever it is.

Yeah. I was on fire today. I was hitting like everything with picks. Do you think when that happens, don't you always lose the Monday game? Have you ever rolled it, rolled over the hot streak to Monday? I don't think I've ever done it in my life. No,

I like the Raiders. So congratulations to the world. You're going to win. Oh, really? Why do you like the Raiders? Cause no Michael Thomas. It's hard to,

it's going to be hard to score on them. No Michael Thomas. I don't, I don't love how breeze looked last week. And I like Vegas at home in their new shiny stadium and the whole thing. I don't know. I just think it's close. Right.

I think their offense is pretty good. They can actually move the ball. Yeah, the Panthers weren't awful today, right? No. They were game. So the Raiders had to be decent to beat them last week. Yeah, I think it's close, too. Bills-Rams is a really good game.

I have the Bills. It's in Buffalo. I have the Bills favored by two. You get it. I said three and a half. I thought it was going to be a little higher. It's two and a half. You're closer.

Is this the only 2-0 versus 2-0? I think it is. I guess New Orleans could be 2-0 we don't oh no in Kansas City Baltimore sorry my bad I was texting you in house today about how I didn't like the slate because teams that I liked were playing each other and other teams that I wanted to go against that were playing

this one I don't really like the Bills I think that I think their stock is too high compared to what they actually are this one, I don't really like the bills. I think that I think their stock is too high compared to what they actually are. And I think the Rams are underrated. I like the Rams in this game. I'll bet. I want it to get to three.

I'm with you. I think the Buffalo, like I said, is my full shit team. I don't know. I think, you know, one thing I noticed with the Rams,

they're, they're triple headed running back, but it, it kind of illuminated how mediocre Gurley was last year. And then when I was watching him in the Dallas game today, I just didn't feel like he was going to put the game away in the last five minutes. He got a new contract or a contract because he has 35 touchdowns from scrimmage in two years. That's the only thing he had going. Yeah, he's not breaking any first downs with any

regularity. He's not the same guy. He's not even a Leonard Fournette, I don't think. Steelers are home for the Texans. It's tough because Texans looked like crap last week. Then they looked like crap today against Baltimore, but those also might be the two best

teams in the league. So we have no idea if the Texans might be okay. Right. I have the Steelers favored by five and a half. Oh, wow. You're cheating this week. Yeah, it's exactly five and a half. I said it was three.

I thought must win for Houston kind of thing going. Pittsburgh. I don't know. You know, the thing is, when they don't protect Deshaun Watson, it's just going to be a mess when you play a team like the Steelers. I feel the same thing about Joe Burrow. Everyone's going crazy about him. He has to play the Steelers twice still.

He has to play the Ravens twice still. Let's see him up against us. I think Deshaun's going to have a lot of trouble. Boy, if they go to 0-3, they're in a mess of trouble. It's tough. The no, we talked about last week, the no Hopkins thing. They miss him, you think? You just feel it.

It's like, hey, guess who I wish they had. Fuller disappears. Fuller's already disappeared. We'll say this, though, about the Steelers. And that was a team I bet on to win the AFC. I'm not sure they're good. You think last week, the Giants game was a little friskier than I think it should have been.

Granted, it's Monday night, but, you know, they actually had to make some plays to put that game away. And then this game fucking Jeff Driscoll comes in because lock gets hurt. Judy gets knocked out or whatever happened to him. He's gone. Sutton's playing her game back. Yeah. And and Denver's like hanging around. It's 2614 is 2414. Theyton's playing hurt. Came back. Yeah. And Denver's like hanging around. It's 26-14.

It's 24-14. They give up a safety. It's like, all right, this game's over. And then Denver comes down and scores. And then they had the ball at the end with a chance to actually go and win the game. I don't know what the fuck Pittsburgh was doing. It does seem like, well, Denver's defense, even without Von Miller's, is pretty decent. We saw it last week.

But it does seem like, no matter who's quarterback, the Steelers should score, is pretty decent. We saw it last week. But it does seem like no matter who's quarterback, the Steelers should score more than they do. I mean, we talked about Seattle's four receivers. I think Pittsburgh has the best four. Juju Smith-Schuster, Washington, Deontay Johnson, and Chase Claypool, the monster kid from Notre Dame. And Connor's not injured yet. He put up good numbers.

I don't see why they're not getting in the end zone like every quarter. I'm so tired of them getting these young receivers. They draft receivers better than anybody. It's like they're in the fucking garden. They're just like, let's grow another receiver. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

I just grew Chase Claypool. Right. Throw him in. He's going to get a 50-yard touchdown. My team hasn't gotten a young receiver like that since like the 2000s. Julian Edelman was the last guy we've had that was like, wow, that

guy, they developed him. Cool. Listen, don't make me remind you. You had the Steelers' best receiver in Antonio Brown, and you screwed up that relationship. I don't know what you guys did. I don't know what happened there. Cardinals playing the Lions

at home. I think there's going to, this will be the week that Aaron Andrews does the Kyla Murray interview and the magazine, whatever magazine, sends somebody down there like, Arizona's on the radar now. I have Cardinals by six and a half. Wow.

It's official. It's six. I said four. I didn't think they were ready to give the Cardinals this much juice. I know they did against Washington, but yeah, they're right up there with the good teams. They're being treated as such by Vegas, especially against Detroit

who needs this more than anybody. But are they just dead, Detroit? Yeah. Is this the game they tied? Was this a tie last year? Detroit and Arizona? I think it was. Yeah, I think it was. Well, Galladay hasn't played yet. Right.

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All right, barely watchable. Speaking of the Bears, they are at Atlanta. I have Atlanta minus three over the Bears. Now, this is a game. I like this game. I think the Falcons, I don't think the bears can score with the Falcons. Can I just say,

I know you have like 500 reads and ads to do and everything, but to say, we're going to take a break and then we're going to come back with games that are barely watchable. So make sure, don't you dare turn us off. Hold that to your seats. And you're right. This is barely

watchable, and you're right with the line, too. It's exactly three. Again, I thought one and a half. I'm favoring these Bears a little too much, but a field goal at home for Atlanta feels right. I'm kind of on fire this week with my pitch. Yeah, you are. Six to one, you're beating me.

Browns, Washington. I just want to go on fire this week with my picks. Yeah, you are. Six to one, you're beating me. Browns, Washington. I just want to go on the record saying I like Washington. Not even knowing what the line is yet. I have Browns by four and a half. I said four and a half also. It's six and a half. Yeah, see, that's why I like Washington. So weird.

The Browns, they're like the most public square team every week. It's just hard to look at. It's hard to look at teams like Cleveland and Arizona being six-point favorites. We're not used to that. Titans are at Minnesota. Was House kidding when he said Haskins is a year away?

No, he really thinks that. He likes Haskins. Only a year. Okay. I call him Dinkin Dunk Dwayne I haven't seen him throw a pass more than five yards yet Titans at the Vikings the Titans by three and a half and this looks like a classic stay away don't bet the Titans game well I'm an

idiot you know I do this for a living I should be better at this it's two and a half Titans by two and a half again I'm thinking Minnesota must win home for whatever that meant I thought they would be favored by one, but I was way off. I think you're overrating the Vikings. I'm overrating all these own two teams that I think are going to kind of bounce back a little bit. But what did the Vikings show you those first two weeks to make you think that anything good was going to happen? Nothing. I gave him a

little pass because I thought Aaron Rodgers is up there with Mahomes and Lamar Jackson as don't you dare bet against them until they give you a reason to. But this week, you're right. I watched that, and that was your game. You were all over the Colts. Good job by you. But no excuse.

No excuse for what Cousins is putting forward. Yeah, at least a team like the Eagles, which is our next game, they could say, well, we're banged up. We lost this guy. We didn't have this guy. Blah, blah, blah. I don't really know what the Vikings' excuse is. I mean, because, you know,

every team is missing a couple guys, but they shouldn't be like horrific. Well, but here's the only thing. I think their over-under win total was probably a shade higher than Tennessee's. And their home. And their game points. I don't know.

Eagles home against the Bengals. I'm probably too low on this. I had the Eagles by four and a half. Yeah, you're a little low. I said seven. It's six and a half. And you are teasing the SHIT, Schitt's Creek, out of this one. No way.

I wouldn't go against Joey B. Really?'s my guy like that guy you know did you sense with him he gets so bummed out over a loss and that's great i appreciate that but uh he's gonna have a lot does he realize he's gonna be four and twelve like these guys that lose like three times in their entire college career even like an anthony davis Anthony Davis with Kentucky would never lose. Then you go to the... After September, Joe Burrow's going to have as many losses as he did in college.

The bummer for him, two bummers. One is his line can't block. He just hopes he stays healthy. The other one is AJ Green's washed, unfortunately. Did you feel that way? AJ Green used to be really good. He can't get open anymore. No, he can't. Did you feel that way? I did, for sure. Remember, AJ Green used to be really good, and he can't get open anymore. No, he can't.

But still, the way he throws, crisp throws on the run, just bullet, but I think he's used to the NFL speed already. 61, they didn't win the game, and they shouldn't have beaten Cleveland, but to throw 61 passes and none of them being interceptions is pretty,

that's Tom Brady-esque a little bit. I just think he has it. You know it when you see it. He definitely has it. Chargers, Panthers, this is in LA. I had the Chargers favored by four. I had the same thing. We went low.

It's six and a half. So the Chargers... Yeah, I'm not ready to put them in a tease, but I do think they're good. I'll be interested to see what their injury report looks like this week. Are they as good as Tampa Bay? Because Tampa Bay was seven. I guess they're versus Carolina.

I would say the Chargers and Tampa, I would put about equal. Wow. Wouldn't you? I guess. I guess Chargers defense is frisky. Yeah. I just feel like with Tampa, you know,

I think people sometimes they look at football like it's fantasy football. Right. And they're not looking at some of the basic parts that make a football team succeed. Tampa's fucking sloppy.

Yep. They do dumb shit every game. For sure. They should have won the game today by 30 points. They do dumb shit over and over again. Very undisciplined team.

And I don't see that changing. That's not going to get better in week seven. That's the same team they were in last year. If Jameis was the quarterback instead of Brady, putting up the exact same stats

Brady had put up over this first two games, he'd be like, oh my God, Jameis. Right. Ugh. Ugh. Wow.

Jameis should have a job. I don't know if you're a big Jameis fan or you're soured on Tampa. I mean, you bet on Tampa two weeks in a row, though. I did. I won money should have a job. I don't know if you're a big Jameis fan or you're soured on Tampa. I mean, you bet on Tampa two weeks in a row, though. I did. I won money on him. Yeah.

I just don't think he's looked that good. But I'll tell you this. Jameis is better than a couple of the quarterbacks I watched this week. I'm pretty sure he's better than Jeff Driscoll. Jameis, as a third string quarterback, was happier than anyone in the Superdome or whatever it's called, New Orleans, last week.

It was phenomenal. He might play. He'll play soon. You'll see. Speaking of the Bucs and speaking of the Broncos, Bucs at Denver. High altitude. Denver, a place that Tom Brady has had some bad memories in over the years. That's true. I have the Bucs favored by 3.5.

Isn't this weirdly high? I had 5 and it's 6. Oh, shit. Because Locke's out. I screwed up. Yeah. That was an unforced error by me. I guess Tampa's defense will prevail here.

I'll tell you this, folks. From what I saw from Jeff Driscoll today, he's not beating Tom Brady. No, he's not. I had this circled as the first kind of shocker in the beginning of the year when I thought Von Miller was playing, when the starting quarterback was not injured. I thought they had a shot to win this game.

Cortland Sutton wasn't in and out, and Jerry Judy wasn't getting knocked out every play. Before we get to the poop fact, I think you owe me an apology. I probably do. What for? Because you were worried because the NBA playoffs and all these games

that I wasn't going to watch football. And I was going to be on here talking out of my ass. But deep down, you would know that I was watching all the basketball games. Yeah. But I've watched all the football games.

You owe me an apology. I am very proud of you. I either owe you an apology or i have to uh give kudos to the whatever slack uh channel you're on with the ringer they really load you up with some good advice every sunday night i'm watching everything man well this is uh you wouldn't have to miss any uh basketball but i had golf on one of the four string screens Were you going to tell me? Is that what you're going to? No, actually, this is weird because I love golf. Yeah. They made the course so hard

that it actually kind of ruined the tournament for me. Oh, it's fine. I like rooting for bad golf. I'm the opposite. I'm just like, this fucking sucks. You hit it in the rough and it's an automatic bogey. This blows. Well, I wouldn't have watched normally,

but screw you, NFL. They did it again. 10 1 p.m. games, East Coast games. They're doing it again this week. Why 10? Why 10? Why are we doing that? Because they hate us.

Spread it out. You can't show the full product. You're showing their eight box for DirecTV didn't even have the channel. It's missing two games. It's missing three games. Oh, no, it was missing two games. One of them was the Cowboys-Falcons. So now I can't even have the channel. It's missing two games. It's missing three games. Oh, no. It was missing two games. One of them was the Cowboys Falcons.

So now I can't even use that channel. It's disgraceful. Get your shit together. I did something today that I had never done before in my life. I put the four pack on the big TV. You did? There were so many games I wanted to watch. And I got to say, yeah, I really liked it.

I was kind of mad at myself that I had never done it before. I had the four pack. I had one other. I was kind of mad at myself that I'd never done it before. I had the four-pack. I had one other game that was Colts-Vikings, the games I bet on that I wanted to zone in on, and then the red zone. And I feel like I saw everything. Yeah, I feel like I had a grasp of everything that was going on. I can't commit to the red zone because then it's like three seconds behind the four pack. I have a problem with that.

So I have to go for, I know this is champagne problems. I'm sorry. But then you're changing between four games on that last screen. It just sucks. Just get it together. Don't play 10 games in the morning. Speaking of sucks, the Poopfecta, 49ers at the Giants. It's like the Amityville Horror House they can't get away from this stadium it's a great they tried to leave now they're back it's a great game in the mid-80s I don't know what they're gonna do here I have uh Jim Burt and the Giants giving uh getting seven points against the uh 49ers and probably Nick Mullins. All right, you went, hey, am I back in this? I said it's plus six. It's four and a half. Oh, wow.

Yeah, I don't know why. Well, Jimmy G playing? Are they expecting more injuries during practice? I don't know what they're doing. If George Kittle doesn't play, that's basically you're missing every offensive weapon you have for this game. And Jordan Reed is all of a sudden their best receiver.

He's a tight end. But I thought, I mean, he was in concussion protocol for 14 years straight is all of a sudden their best receiver. He's a tight end, but I thought, I mean, he was in concussion protocol for 14 years straight and now he's their best receiver. I was watching with my son today who had George Kittle who got hurt, so he had to pick up a tight end. So I told him to pick up OJ Howard.

Two points, right? He's in a league where it's like, you know, it's not like a ton of tight ends left. Right. So he picks up OJ Howard. We had the Bucks game on and he's not doing anything. My son's like, you know, it's not like a ton of tight ends left. Right. So he picks up OJ Howard. We had the Bucks game on and he's not doing anything. My son's like getting mad at me. That OJ Howard, why'd you tell me to pick him? He sucks.

Yeah. And I'm just like, he just doesn't get fantasy. I'm like, Ben, you weren't going to pick up like some tight end off the waiver wire who was going to get 120 yards. Right. Little shit. Stop yelling at me. You got to get lucky. Whoever's on the waiver wire is going to to get 120 yards. Right. Little shit. Stop yelling at me. You got to get lucky.

Whoever's on the waiver wire is going to get two catches, and you have to hope that one of them is a touchdown. Yeah. From three yards. It's been. You created a monster. He's just a psycho. He was so mad at Clyde Edwards' Hilaire today.

Oh, yeah. He's like, he sucks. He didn't even get to 40 yards. He should coach. I think that's his next spot. Colts home for the Jets, the other worst team in the league. I bumped this a little high. I bumped it to eight.

Colts by eight. But it's probably eight and a half. I have regrets. I think you clinched the week with this. We tied. I had eight also. It's nine and a half. They are not screwing around with these jets.

Yeah, that's... Well, and teases. They don't want you to tease that down to under a field goal. Slaughtered with teasers this week. Yeah, they're not taking chances. The Colts' new field goal kicker is pretty good. I love that guy. I love them.

On Georgia, Blankenship. Yeah. It's funny. After last year when Ricker Borda, Svinatieri, God bless his soul, used to come in and just every kick was a complete adventure for them. Now this guy comes

in and he just makes them. Sunday night. Saints. Coming off a Monday night game in Vegas, going back home playing Aaron Rodgers. I have the Saints by four. Wow. I didn't think it would be that high.

I said three, and it's actually higher than what you even said. It's four and a half. So you get that one. You're crushing me this week. I would take that number if you can right now. I would jump on it because guys are getting hurt. They're not Saints. You're not going to get better after tomorrow's game.

They're going to be at best best, exhausted on a short week. Right? Plus, Rodgers is probably going to do the thing like LeBron did this weekend when LeBron was mad he didn't win the MVP, which I thought was just ridiculous. It's like, somebody needs to explain to these people. It's the regular season MVP. Right.

It's not an award for who the best player in the league is. We looked at the regular season and whoever was the most valuable player to his team, that's who wins the award. Giannis had all the best stats. His team had the best record. He was the best defensive player in the year. His offensive stats

were borderline Wilt Chamberlain-esque and he was the MVP. It's nothing personal, LeBron. You were second. Congratulations. Great job. Here's what gets me LeBron. You were second. Congratulations. Great job. Here's what gets me crazy. He actually said, I have no problem with them naming Giannis MVP. It's like, well, then here's the thing. Then you can't have a problem with you getting 16 votes because you only get one vote, right? You don't get a first and a second place vote. So if everybody thinks like LeBron and says, well, I have no problem with Giannis, like, okay, then it could be unanimous if Giannis wins. Like you shouldn't be upset. I don't know.

Look, LeBron, I actually saw him smile today. It's like, I'm rooting for the Lakers and I feel bad rooting for the Lakers because he seems so mad playing. And I get there's a lot of other shit going on and he doesn't owe me a smile. I'm not going to do the, I pay your salary thing, but it's hard to root for a team that doesn't look like they're having fun. And they finally, after tonight looked like they did. And because Anthony Davis, which is probably the reason he didn't win MVP hit that three.

And like, it was nice for a minute that they were excited about something. I can't eat it. It's not hard for me to dislike Lakers team, but I really disliked this Lakers team. It's such a fun team to sports hate like that. They're the only team that's heckling the other teams, free throw shooters from their bench and doing shit like that.

Right. And Dwight Howard, who is my least favorite part of the 21st century. Um, he comes in, he's roughing up yokeage left and right. Elbows, shoulders,

shoves. It's committing like five fouls per possession. Yeah. And then when they call a foul, it's like, what? What do you mean? Foul? Nobody on the Lakers has committed a foul this entire season. I've never seen the team bitch about more calls. And then J.R. Smith, who was washed

up three years ago, he's on the side like fucking Bobby and Cobra Kai. Get him a body bag! It's like, JR, you were done in 2017. Go away. Why do you think... I can't stand this dude.

No, you like Rondo. You like Caruso. You don't mind those guys. I do. I love Rondo. And it hurts when other people don't like Rondo. I feel like, all right, you can hate the Lakers, but stop with the Rondo stuff.

Yeah, you like those two. But yeah. But then to steal that game today where they have Jokic guard in the inbounds pass, which is Rondo throwing it in. It's not like Rondo's going to get the ball back. Just put whoever

on him. They bring in Miles Plumlee, who hasn't played in a half hour, to guard Davis. And then Davis just runs toward the ball and Plumlee's like, who else is taking him? It's like, get your fucking guy. Follow Davis. Right. And then Davis just runs toward the ball and Plumlee's like, who else is taking him? It's like, it's your fucking guy.

Follow Davis, you moron. Yeah. And then Davis just goes, Jokic goes from defending the inbounds pass to challenging the Davis shot somehow.

He's closer to the Miles Plumlee was. Right. I know. That was so terrible. I can't believe that's how they lost. You hated that

and he almost stepped out of bounds, Davis. To me, that was worse than the O.G. and Inobi play because at least with that one, it's like, let's leave that guy open in the corner. Lowry would have to throw a 50-foot perfect pass just to get this. This is

the best player in the Lakers. It doesn't matter. They're winning that series anyway, even if it was 1-1. The point is, I think Giannis, Bucks don't make the playoffs without Giannis. Lakers don't make the playoffs without LeBron. Lakers have Anthony Davis. That's the X factor, right? With the MVP?

I think. Giannis is Middleton, who shows up sometimes. Bloods shows up sometimes. Giannis' case is unassailable. And the award is not who is the best player in the league. Right. The award is who had the best regular season.

That's it. And I don't know why people don't understand that. Anyway. Monday night, Ravens-Chiefs. Is that right? Oh, yeah. Ravens are home.

What an awesome game. Somebody likes ESPN again. So good. So good. They might have to. Somebody likes ESPN again. So good. They might have to bring Booger back for this. It's that big. We got to do it. We have Ravens by two and a half.

I said two and a half also. They bumped it to three. They look damn good Baltimore. Houston was going to be that was my weird upset pick. And it was not even close that offense. I'm wondering if they even figured out their offense yet. We're running,

like running Ingram in the wild car. They got Dobbins. They got all sorts of shit going on. And it's, uh, it might be too much for Andy Reed on Monday. Did you see that stat? They showed that Baltimore has led every game for,

I think the last 13? A regular season game? From beginning, middle, to end, they've had the lead regular season. Really? I think 12. Wow. Pretty impressive. That's pretty good.

I'm excited about this game. So I won the week. Eh, I don't know. Yeah, you won 12 to, I don't know, 12 to 8 or something. Yeah, you killed me. 3-0. Should I feel better about my Celtics or no? I was surprised they're not favored now.

Oh, I should have asked you. You saw what the series line is? What is it? It was Miami's minus 135. I thought it'd be at least even. No, because game three, Boston played really well. Hayward was huge. Having him back.

And if you looked at the stats, you had to watch it. That's what I'm saying. I think he was minus. I told you. He was the only minus out of the plus minus guys. To have another guy out there who knows how to cut, who knows how to pass, who can actually shoot an open jump shot, who knows how to move in this space. Versus like before they would just have, you know, semi-ocial issues, like go in the corner. Yeah.

Try not to do anything. And now they always have good people out there. And I thought he made a huge difference. But the other thing is Miami just missed threes. And if they shoot 30% or under from three, they're excessively beatable. And that was the first really bad shooting game.

The only thing the Celts did defensively that I thought really stood out was attacking. Dragic was smart. Having him pick up the pick them up half court and really make it harder for him. And they hunted Robinson on offense a little bit i thought that was good they definitely deserve to win but i think the hayward thing's a serious changer i didn't think he was going to play that well i we texted about that and you are expecting it's weird like smart screaming at everyone in the

locker room and all you needed really was this guy to come back at 75 80 percent and he did and he doesn't slow down the offense at all right like it kind of goes through him when it does and he makes 30 million dollars a year like yeah it's like he could probably people it's just people haven't seen him in a while and i think they forgot that how impactful he was and also what a drop off it was you know it's like going from zeke elliott to some four stringer well you're not really being outplayed here. I think you guys have the Celtics blown four double digit leads in the playoffs. That's that's the key. So I don't know if it's conditioning or what it is, but you're you're you're better matched up.

I think the thing if you're a Celtics fan, one stat I always like with the playoffs is how often you go up by like 10 plus in a game. This Celtics team, and I don't know the exact number, but they've played 3, 10, 14 playoff games. I think they've been up by at least 10 in 12 of the games. In the three rounds. They are able to have these runs and get just, and then all of a sudden it's like 49-38 or 50-37. And that's always a good sign for a team that has a high ceiling, I think. I think we figured out they won nine first halves in a row, right? Right.

That's the bet, everybody. Lean on that. But I think the Lakers are like that, too. You look at the Lakers. The Lakers have been up by double figures in almost all of these games. Right. Yeah, for sure. Did they play in the first round? Well, the game won.

But they lost two game ones, right? Right. But I think of all the games they've won, they were convincing. It wasn't like a knockdown, drag out. But Miami, the scary thing with them is you're up 14 with three minutes left. Still got to play.

And they can hit nine points in 40 seconds. And you're like, what the fuck just happened? It'll be good. The fact that they don't play on Monday. Yeah, why do they have that? This is the first time they're kind of doing that, right? It's been one day on, one day off. Because they had to even it out with the West Series.

Oh, you got to catch up. So you play Wednesday. So that really helps with Hayward. Because Hay had to even it out with the West series. Oh, you got to catch up. So you play Wednesday. So that really helps with Hayward because Hayward was like kind of sore today and he played more minutes than I thought they thought he was going to play. The other thing that really helped the Celtics going into the playoffs. One of the reasons I

like Miami was they had nine guys. They had this nine man rotation. They were deep. And now Iguodala sprained his ankle. He's kind of been phased out. Like he's not playing in second halves anymore. And then Kendrick Nunn they can't really play.

So now they're down to seven. And Olenek hasn't been playing well this series either. So now you're at six and a half. So that's a good sign for the Celtics too. I'm certainly more optimistic. Killing you with your own

bench guys is what they were doing. You just can't let Duncan Robinson go six from 12 or from behind the arc. And that's a good starting point, I think. Shut him down. It's probably likely go six or seven.

Yeah. Don't you think? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. It's a long. So game six is Friday. Game seven is Sunday. Oh, is that right?

I guess it does end this week. Yeah. So I could be like a fucking shell on the Sunday night podcast. Well, your Red Sox aren't going to make a comeback, so at least there's that. You're good there. So it'll just be Celtics and Patriots. Before we do Parent Corner, we should mention

we have a text thread with your cousin Jimmy and our agent James Babydoll Dixon and our friend Daniel. And we were texting during the Emmys like Jimmy wasn't hosting it. And Jimmy texted, guys, I'm hosting the Emmys. We were just arguing about some of the nominees. I think he got bummed out. It started off like, congratulations, the monologue was great. Cause that's,

I know, I know from being there, that's, that's a sigh of relief, even though he still has two and a half hours to go. Once you get through the monologue, that's, that's getting over a big hump.

So I knew like to text him there, but yeah, then we started arguing like, what the hell? Well, it's Creek already. And she was like, Hey,

talking about how good Letterman looks. Yeah, exactly. So we backed off. Our friend, Hey, talking about how good Letterman looked. Yeah, exactly. So we backed off. Our friend Daniel didn't figure it out to back off. Daniel said four more texts. He kept going. Did you like the Emmys real quick?

Was there anything? Yeah. The Emmys, you know, it was weird. Like everything else is in 2020 where you have all the, all the winners and stuff at home. Yeah.

But I, I kind of liked it. I thought that I thought how they pull it off. I had it on one of the TVs. home. But I kind of liked it. I thought how they pulled it off. I had it on one of the TVs. Obviously, the Pats was going against it, so I was a little preoccupied. It wasn't bad. Jason Bateman was a fun live bit. There was only

so much they could do. I felt like it almost looked fixed with Schitt's Creek because they had all gathered together somewhere in Canada. They're winning all these awards. Right. Oh, Jimmy, Jimmy has nothing to do with this. I'm like, poor Jimmy, the people are going to tune out if the Schitt's Creek wins 14 shows. I think you talked about it once last year, like there should be two Emmys because Schitt's Creek is a fun show, but you wonder how many people have seen it, right? There should be the network Emmys. And how many episodes per season is it?

Oh, God, I don't even know. More than John Oliver, for sure. No, I don't know. Whatever. Let's do Parent Corner. Yeah. What's the feeling of fall? It's finally catching the sunrise.

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or she wants, right? But no, I mean, we put parent controls on it. I think our six-year-old's allowed to use it about five or six hours a day, which seems like it's an insane amount. But if he could, would use it 15 hours. So he plays this game called Robux, and it's kind of a virtual game. And it's one of those things where he asked for $5 every month and then he could buy like hair or fire skates or some bullshit. And he could look cool in front of his friends who he's playing against in this virtual world. And he's playing with his friend Landon and he's playing with his friend

Tutu. And he's screaming all the time at Landon and he's screaming at Tutu. And he's like screaming things like Tutu. and he's screaming at Tutu and he's like screaming things like Tutu, how did you, I'm going to kill you. How did you let me die? That's it for you, Tutu. I'm like, all right, calm down, you maniac. He's like, no, no, no.

I'm done with Tutu. Tutu, I hate you, Tutu, screaming. He hates Tutu. And Landon, he gets along with, I don't know who these people are. I know Landon's his friend. So my wife arranges for a play date for my six-year-old with Landon. And Landon shows up at the park. It's outdoors. They're socially distanced.

And who's there with Landon is Tutu, who happens to be his 81-year-old grandmother. So my monster asshole son is yelling, I'm going to kill you, Tutu. How do you let me die there? Just let me climb the tree, Tutu. What's wrong with you, Tutu? He's yelling at this old lady. I don't know why she's on there playing, but she enjoys it. But I was like, we were mortified that he's screaming at this woman. And like, hey, did you know that was Landon's grandmother? He's like, yeah, yeah, I knew. It's like, really, you knew and you're still yelling at her? All right, good. We're sending you to military school.

So there you go. There's a legend. I apologize to Tutu and Landon's family. Wow. Roblox. She's an old lady. How's this kid plays Roblox? He does?

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. It missed my kids. I think my kids are too old for it. Good for you. My son, who is still limping around, even though his foot's healed because the cast was too tight or something.

And now he has to. So he's just in rare form. Right. Just want to talk about hygiene with him for a second. No. So sometimes he'll sit next to us and be like, what's that smell? Is that your feet?

And he's like, no, it's my shorts. No. All right. So we do laundry in the house. I don't know why your shorts smell. Yeah, I don't know why they smell. So then yesterday,

same thing. He's sitting with us. It's like, Ben, why do your shorts smell like that it's like I don't know I don't it's just the shorts it's like no it can't be the shorts and my wife said no no we did laundry it can't just be the shorts he

doesn't wear underwear good and it's in the shorts so now we're yelling at him about his hygiene he doesn't brush his teeth and wears shorts with no underwear and just doesn't care. But he's now like five years away from going to college, right? Right. So at some point, when does the hygiene thing kick in with little boys? You have three of them.

Like with Archie, I'm sure it kicked in sooner, right? But is there a time when the light bulb goes off? So I guess my question is, when do little boys stop being pigs? Well, I think my son went through this, maybe not this extreme, but it was about two years. I think they have to go through some kind of puberty or something. But I will say, here's what we have working against us. He has no one to see. Right.

We're in this pandemic. He's not with his friends. And so there's no incentive really to clean up, to wash up. And, uh, and probably because he sees that it makes you crazy, he's going to continue to do it. So, uh, well, that was his case. He's like, I I'm not, you know, nobody can see me right now anyway. And it's like, yeah, but we can smell you. Right. Like you're right there. I can smell you from four feet away. Yeah. I think. Not to mention like the puberty BO, that like 13-year-old BO,

that 13, he's not 13 yet, but you know. Right. He's just malodorous. I don't know what happened. You have to bring like a cute 13-year-old to the house or a girl or something. I don't know.

Well, so that's when this changes, right? Right. When they're all allowed to hang out again, but now he's at this stage. He's very focused on girls now, but it's all like FaceTime and these weird weird sites where they go and they these group facetime thingies but yeah nobody actually has to smell him that's the whole thing yeah why would they smell well i could set him up with uh tutu she might be a little old for him but um i don't know

does tutu smell all right i don't know you can't smell on Roblox. We're going to make a huge hygiene push with my son over the next. I'll let you know how it goes. Maybe it's Corolla's son. Maybe ship him over to Corolla. It's more his speed. What's happened with the Corolla in football this year? Are they still doing it or has COVID killed it or what happened? They are still doing it. Our friend Brad goes, my buddy scott goes uh pinch has sworn off it our buddy nick santora is not going so everyone who doesn't want to go get covet is not going yeah and he's like what's the big deal come by it's i don't know i i think just think of the doors you've been to that warehouse there's just no ventilation i just don't and adam is um

you know he's doing uh stand standup gigs in Southern cities and doing meet and greets after every weekend. So, or every Friday. So I don't know. I'm a little skittish. I know everybody plays by their own rules and I'm probably hypocritical somewhere along the line, but it just freaks me out. I know it freaks the family out more. I don't like the indoors thing. Right. All the evidence suggests don't be indoors with over 10 people in a place that has air conditioning and the air

just kind of floats around. That's a bad idea. Yeah. I'm pretty certain at that point that that's true. I wish we had more answers by now. It really is disgraceful that we don't know for sure. Because like they said, oh, the beach holidays are worse, Labor Day, Memorial Day,

July 4th. But like you said, if it's 10 people and you have family over for Thanksgiving, that could be bad too, right? So I don't... We need it. We need something. We need something soon. That's all I'm going to say. Maybe we shouldn't wash. Maybe Ben's got the right idea. This is how Corolla got pink eye. Ben's just running the Corolla health strategy. COVID's afraid

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Wow. Well, we already did the artwork for it. What should it look like? I'm into Benedict Arnold after. All right, I'll run it by him. I don't know. What's that? He has his own ideas.

All right, cuz, as always, good job by you. Good job by you, buddy.