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It's your old friend Bill.
All right, old friend Bill.
What's happening?
We're coming off two more losses for our teams.
You lost on Thursday night.
You were there.
You went to Chicago. We're going to talk about that in a little bit. I like it because my
losses now are like three days
removed. It happened last week too and then your
team just lost a few hours
or a few hours. So it's good.
I don't want to start with either team because we always start
with the Pats or the Cowboys. Let's start with the
game of the year. Actually the
game since the Pats Chiefs game,
which was the previous game of the year, meaning the the game since the Pats Chiefs game, which was the previous game of
the year, meaning the one in January. Niners, Saints, an absolute slugfest, topsy-turvy.
On top of it, it's week 14 fantasy playoffs, and the numbers are just going through the roofs
all these different ways. Great comeback Great comeback. Just super exciting.
And, and it felt like an NFC title preview.
What were your thoughts?
Well, I thought this was one at, first of all, I'll say this was a sharp game.
The 49ers were a sharp pick.
They sharp betters were taking them at plus two and a half.
Then it went down to plus one and a half, then plus one.
So they were all over the 49ers all week
and it made me think ah what are we missing with these saints and then the saints come out
guns blazing right yeah and i thought for a second i was like all right this is the one
yeah this is it san francisco travels two weeks in a row tough game brutal game against the ravens
and now they have to go east again to New Orleans.
This is the game they take off.
Not the case at all.
They came out there.
They looked faster.
Again, they looked faster than everyone.
And I don't know.
I just have some thoughts about Breeze, too.
I'm kind of impressed with his performance because you and I last week thought maybe not that he was done, but there was something off of his ball.
He's thrown against this good defense.
He showed me a lot.
But this Jimmy G, I think you are going to have to watch him in the Super Bowl with Tom Brady on the Patriots.
I really think it's come to that.
It's not this year.
Is Tom Brady going to be in my living room watching with me?
Because that is probably the only reason.
I don't think you'll let him in the house.
I don't know.
You left out the part where Boza got hurt in the first half of that game, too.
Oh, right.
Yeah.
And it just seemed like just what it felt a lot like actually the Seahawks Rams, that
first half of Seahawks Rams tonight where at some point you just go, oh, yeah, probably
not their day.
And the Niners just kept roaring back, roaring back.
I'm with you.
I thought the big winners of the game, other than Niners fans who have been through a lot of crap the last couple of years, the two quarterbacks.
Because I had questions about both of them.
I didn't know if Jimmy G could win a game like that.
I didn't know Breeze had that game left in him anymore.
Yeah, phenomenal.
I'm with you.
I thought he was flinging it around.
I know the Niners ended up winning the game, but it was almost a game
where I'm not positive there was an actual loser.
I know there was a loser for the record books, but I think both of those teams have to come
out of that going, okay, now we know we can fling it.
And if New Orleans knows they're in a dome, at least for one playoff game, possibly two,
who knows?
They know they can fling it like they used to.
And then if you're the niners you answer a
lot of questions and you also really found out a lot about your receivers i felt like i thought
debo was really good they really figure out like they it seems like they know how to use him now
and then sanders was awesome and when you compare what sanu has given to the patriots when it was
basically it was those two guys on the block. Niner struck first. They got Sanders.
Pats went next. They got Sanu. It's pretty much the same price.
And Sanders has transformed the Niners offense and Sanu has done nothing for the Pats.
Yeah. And like 160, 170 on the ground. I mean, there was a lot of points. There's a lot of
offense. It was just one of those games. But like you said, Breeze, they're losers,
the Saints,
in that they're probably going to have to go to San Francisco now.
That's not great in January.
But you're right.
They're going to get a home game.
But this Garoppolo, I mean, now he's done it all.
He's won.
Okay, so it was against the Cardinals.
Not a big deal.
But they were down 16-0.
Just the fact that he could win a game like that, that was nice.
He was down 16 points.
Goes to the Ravens.
Didn't embarrass himself in the conditions of the weather.
Like I said, hard-hitting game.
Escaped that.
Still probably in the upper echelon quarterbacks.
And then wins a huge statement game on the road.
I think we've seen him do it all, which is what you want out of your quarterback,
especially a young quarterback this late in the year, right?
And then they have Atlanta next week.
So they could be looking at 12-2.
Rams at home December 21st,
finishing with at Seattle on the 29th. So at the very least, they're probably going to be in the 13 win range, which, you know, pretty impressive. It's not like they've had an easy schedule,
not an easy schedule. No, that, that division is, I mean, we saw the dog fight. The Rams have
not given up. They're right in there with Seattle and,inals can be frisky. They're blowing games like you
wouldn't imagine. But yeah, this was a tough schedule and they did a nice job. I don't know.
Right now, if I had to make a bet, I'm looking for odds. They're not out yet, but
Niners for NFC, I think for sure. The speed was, again, the thing that jumped out.
And you couldn't feel it.
Looking at that Baltimore game last week, I think the bad weather really cheated us
of whatever the potential of that game was.
It turned into a different type of game.
It was fun to watch.
It was physical.
The elements were a big part of it.
But I think both of those teams, that they played in a different setting.
Where's the Super Bowl?
The Super Bowl's in Miami this year, right?
Miami, yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, they were, first of all, they look so fast.
I don't know about the, just they passed the eye test.
It's, oh my God, they are flying.
And then fourth and two, it's like Kittle's getting the ball here.
This ball's going to travel three and a half yards in the air.
They need two and a half yards.
And that was the play of the year.
I think he, he got face mass for 30 yards.
I think he was scored otherwise.
Right.
It was phenomenal.
It was one of those plays where we have to figure out if we need to increase the yard
penalties for penalties.
Right.
Whereas like that should have been more than a 15 yard face mask.
It should have been for as long as he had the face mask should have been the penalty. So it was like a 28 yard face mask penalty. Yeah. You see balls on the
throne in the end zone and they put it at the one for pass interference. It's like, ah, that
shouldn't be a 40 yard penalty. Well, this was, you know, he made a, it was an assault for about
35 yards. So maybe put that one too. Yeah. It was interesting because Kelsey was in the next game
and I had the combo of rooting against him in fantasy,
and then he's also going against my team.
And it just felt like any time they wanted to throw to him for seven yards,
he was going to be open and get it.
And Kittle is still coming back from, what does he have,
like a bone chip in his ankle or something that he's playing through?
Yeah.
Didn't seem to matter.
But, you know, when you watch the Pats today in the absence of just the post-Gronkowski era,
you could really feel it on those third and twelves,
third and seven, stuff like that.
The Edelmans being double teamed.
Are we talking about the Pats now?
No, no, I'm not.
I'm not ready to talk about the Pats yet.
Oh, man.
I'm saying, man,
it's really nice to have those Kittle Kelsey guys.
Sure.
And Kittle, Sanders. Sure. And, uh, Kittle Sanders and Debo,
those guys can get open on the third and seven, 39, third and 12. One of those three guys
seems like they can get open. And then what they got from most are who in our fantasy league is
just on the waiver wire. Nobody ever picked them up in time for the playoffs. And every year you
see these late bloomers, you know, in fantasy that end up, and they're
usually on shitty teams, right?
They're always on like the four and nine team or the three and 10 team, you know, like the
Miami, Arizona type teams.
And this year it's the Niners that are Superbowl contender that ended up with the late bloomer
guy.
And speaking of fantasy, you mentioned Bosa went out. They shut down.
I guess, you know, you could say Michael Thomas is their best player,
you know, offensively, if not Breeze.
Alvin Kamara, nothing.
Absolutely nothing out of that guy.
43 yards.
Yeah.
43 yards combined.
He has fewer yards than his team had points.
They had 46.
He had 43 yards combined.
Well, that was the big question for him, right?
This year where they're, everyone was saying now that Ingram's gone,
you figure he gets 20% more involved
and you take everything he'd already done
and now add 20%.
Oh my God, he's going to be amazing.
And maybe he is what he is.
Right.
Yeah.
Maybe Murray's a smidge less talented than Ingram.
I guess.
I don't know.
Well, so then the,
the other game that really stood out today was that Ram Seattle game,
because I saw some stat online,
which I wish I had seen before I bet on Seattle,
that Seattle had fallen behind in 10 of the first 12 games of the season.
Yeah.
And then this year it was 11 out of 13.
And,
you know, I'd kind of written off the rams mentally
and uh the girly thing i was really surprised by i thought he i know the stats probably don't
reflect and i know collinsworth was also really raving about it probably a little too much
but he seemed to me like a guy who was heading in the wrong direction. And today it really seemed like they made a concerted effort to get him going.
That got the play action involved.
And we're in this situation where the NFC has five clear playoff teams.
They have four teams with double-digit wins already, right?
Yeah.
And then this weird NFC situation where seven and nine might take the division.
Yeah. And then this weird NFC situation where seven and nine might take the division. And you might have the Rams going 10 and six and being three wins ahead of the NFC's team.
It's conceivable.
I know where you're getting at with that, but I'm not even going to engage you there.
But I will talk about the Rams.
That was pretty good.
That was old Rams football, right?
Now, you know what? I jumped on with you. I saw you had Seattle because'll talk about the Rams. That was pretty good. That was old Rams football, right? Now, you know what?
I jumped on with you.
I saw you had Seattle because you've been hot gambling.
You did something amazing.
You couldn't be higher on the Colts.
And you jumped off that band.
You didn't even wait for it to slow down.
I guess it slowed down a tiny bit.
And then you immediately switched to the Titans, which you don't usually do.
You usually just get away from the division.
But you went to the Titans, and then you put them with the Seahawks.
I'm like, you know what?
The Seahawks, they've won nine one-score games.
They've had nine one-possession games this year they've won.
And yes, you're right.
They get behind in almost all of them.
But the Rams looked like the old Rams, like these sweet plays with Woods.
And like you said, Gurley, and it's not that much of a difference,
but his last five games, I think he averages like 75, not including tonight, 75 yards on the ground,
whereas his first eight were like 49, 50. Doesn't seem like a huge difference, but it is a step in
the right direction. Their offense clicked and the defense gave up six points. I mean, they really
came together. That one was on golf, obviously, that touchdown. So they really gave up six points.
They're not bowing out of this clash for the sixth seed anytime soon, I don't think.
And they got healthier.
They got Woods back.
Higby has been the late bloomer tight end this year,
who is probably swinging some fantasy leagues.
Gurley looks much, much better.
And, you know, the defense, it's hard to say,
ah, their defense, because they got
annihilated by the Rams less than two weeks ago. I mean, by the, uh, by the Ravens. Right. So I'm,
I'm not going to like do jumping jacks about their D yet. I, to me, that was more of a,
a Seattle game where we always talk about these teams that look great when they have a lead or
when they're close, but when they really have to play from behind, it's a little bit of a different story.
Like they just lost control of the pace right away.
And I,
they looked really unprepared.
Kyle and I were watching it.
We just didn't understand what they were doing on defense half the time.
Um,
they just looked like they were a step slow.
They,
the Rams were just running the same plays over and over again.
Like that little wide receiver reverse thing.
They ran four times.
Usually that works twice.
So they just seemed to sleep.
I almost felt like the Seahawks were acting
like they didn't totally need the game,
which I don't really understand.
Do you?
No, I don't.
But I did think one of these teams,
that would happen to them,
either Seattle or San Francisco or Baltimore.
One of these teams that have been winning a lot
go on the road.
They give up a game that they kind of don't need.
They need.
Yeah, sure.
For positioning, everybody wants to be one seed,
but I thought I didn't think it would be Seattle.
That's for sure.
But you're right.
The Rams did everything they wanted to against them offensively.
But I don't know.
I don't know if I want to believe in it.
Now this is two games in a row.
I think off through for over 400 against Arizona.
But do we believe that they're back? Is this offense back at least?
No, it feels like I still feel fool's gold-ish with them that they're just dying to screw
somebody over. Seattle has at Carolina home, Arizona home, San Francisco, rest of the way.
And that San Francisco game, Sanisco potentially could have everything locked up for that game the rams they're at dallas next week which i want to call it a loser
leaves town match but it's really not because your division's so shitty right then they're at
san francisco in a night game which will actually mean something then home for arizona so so they're
a game behind minnesota we're looking really at the six seed right now they're a game behind Minnesota. We're looking really at the sixth seed right now. They're a game behind Minnesota.
If they catch them right now, they get the tiebreaker.
But a weird chick could happen, I guess.
The Rams are eight and five.
Minnesota's nine and four.
They're at the Chargers' home Green Bay, home Chicago.
And I think the craziest thing about all this is that Green Bay is the two seed right now.
Yeah.
Have you watched Green Bay at all this year and gone, oh, yeah, that's a top two seed? now. Yeah. Have you watched Green Bay at all this year and gone, oh yeah, that's a top two seed? No. Even today, the Redskins hanging and hanging. When you have them laying 13 points
and they sleepwalk through the second half, yeah, you're not very excited about that. Yeah,
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So right now in the NFC,
it would be San Francisco, Green Bay with the buys.
We would have New Orleans, Minnesota as the 3-6.
That's fun.
Which would rank among the better round one battles that we've had.
And then Dallas-Seattle.
How many times have you played them in a playoff game?
That would be the playoff right now.
We beat them last year.
I mean, I think, so we're at a point where whether it's Dallas or Philadelphia,
but especially Dallas, Seattle. So it's going to be either Seattle or San Francisco.
And it's most likely Seattle at the NFC East.
I think we're looking at a touchdown favorite, right?
For the road team.
If it's Dallas, you'll get respect.
You'll get respect to the bitter end.
I was thinking seven would be respect.
I think it should be like 12, but yeah.
All right.
No, I think it's in that Vegas zone.
Probably be like four and a half.
Interesting.
Yeah.
We hate somehow we crossed off the bears and the bears I'm looking at on a NFL or CBS sports.com. Yeah, we crossed off the Bears. And the Bears, I'm looking at on CBSSports.com,
they have the playoff picture thing.
And the Bears are in the still alive category.
It's hard to believe.
You were there, though.
You went on Thursday.
I like that stadium.
I like it.
It's old.
It's cavernous.
Obviously, the fans are up for every game.
It doesn't really matter.
And my team was not up for that game that's for sure i mean there's talk about mitch being cut and they make him look like a superstar again he threw he talked about an offense that did
whatever they wanted against you yeah they settled in and the cowboys of course teased me and
cowboys fans did what they have done the last few weeks, at least on Thanksgiving last week, opening drive touchdown,
they go right down, but boy, they did not look good after that.
They just, they just fell apart. It's just, I, they,
in a way they don't need that game and they played like they didn't need the
game.
They have to beat Philly and they have to beat Washington the last game of
the year. And I feel like that's, I don't know, like Jason
Garrett. I know I've been calling for his head forever, but now I'm hearing rumblings that the
players don't even back them. So what do you do now? I mean, Aikman made a good point. He says,
none of these coordinators have, have deserved the chance to take over for even in the interim
for the next three weeks or whatever. Yeah. But is that even the point? Do you just do it to mix it up?
Maybe you do.
Aikman sounds like he's ready to come out of the booth
and coach them.
Yeah.
He can't hide his disgust anymore.
It's like listening to me announce a Celtic game last year
when I was so frustrated with Kyrie and everything.
Right.
He can barely hold it in.
It's such as, that is not the division that I thought
would have the below 500
division champ.
But here we are.
Sad news, Tampa Bay was
eliminated. Are they out?
Yeah, they're out.
If a team is out, do we have to
cross them off? We already
crossed them off.
I thought we could have our own playoffs. If a team is
out, we could still game around.
Like the Redskins, we kept alive, but they're out now, right?
The Redskins are out.
Here's what's still alive, though.
I have some exciting news for you.
Jameis has a chance to become the first 30-30 quarterback of all time.
Wow.
30 TDs, 30 picks.
Right now, he's at 26 touchdowns and 23 picks with three games to go.
So he would need, he would have to have one three pick game. He'd only need a couple more TDs.
He could do it. I know he could do it. I just know it.
I was stunned. There's only been 16 teams, 16 quarterbacks. He's the 17th.
Well, he'll be the 17th when he throws his 25th pick. There's only been 16 teams, 16 quarterbacks. He's the 17th. Well, he'll be the 17th when he
throws his 25th pick. There's only been 16 quarterbacks ever who have thrown 25 TDs,
25 picks in the same season. Wow. Really? Since 1983, a legendary year when Lynn Dickey and Joe
Ferguson did it. We had my beloved Drew Bledsoe in 94, 25 TDs, 27 picks.
Peyton Manning, 1998, 26 TDs, 28 picks.
The one, the only Jay Cutler in 2009, 27 TDs, 26 picks.
And then you know the last one to do it, Eli Manning.
He only did it once?
Yeah, 2010, 31 TDs, 25 picks.
There's only been one, two, three, four guys ever
who have done 30-plus TDs and 25 interceptions.
So he has a chance to be the fifth for that.
I mean, he just, it's so great
because he spots everyone two interceptions.
It's like, all right, Colts,
I don't know what Vegas has this line at,
but we're giving you two interceptions that you could turn into 14 points. I felt bad for the Colts. I mean,
I guess it's because they didn't have a run game today that 66 yards rushing or something like
that. But Jameis is daring you. He's daring you to beat him. And he's winning almost half the time.
It's the most exciting season ticket team of the year. I think they've won the award. Even today, Jameis will have the one pick a game
that it seems like he's throwing the game,
but it's just he has to get it out of his system.
He had that today.
It was the pick six,
but you had the long Mike Evans touchdown
where he pulls his hamstring as he's crossing the goal line.
I don't know if I've seen that one before.
He's never seen it again.
He's walking off in the tunnel.
And just in general,
that was a
really strange
kind of semi-exciting game between
two teams that, unfortunately for both
of them, are not going anywhere.
Vegas doesn't know what to do with the over-unders either.
I think nine of the last ten Tampa Bay games
have gone over.
It's in the 60s. You can't do anything about it.
Are you sure?
They should go back and check that Tampa Bay's eliminated. I don't feel it's right and it's not good for our podcast
well the 30 30 is still there 30 for 30 javis doing his own 30 for 30 yeah indy i bet before
the year the over seven and a half wins they're 6-7 with three games left.
I'm going to be sweating that one out, Sal.
Oh, man.
I don't think it's going to happen.
Wait, over 7?
What's the three games?
It was 7.5.
They're at New Orleans next week.
And then the last two, home Carolina at Jacksonville.
Oh, man. Not feeling awesome about that bet.
Well, those last two won't be battling for any playoff anything.
Let's talk about Ravens-Bills.
Okay.
Lamar, last two games, 48 passes, 250 yards total.
Yep.
Aberration?
Or should we be concerned if you're a Lamar fan about a cold weather Lamar?
Oh no,
I don't think,
well,
I think what you said last week is,
is,
is a truth that they're going to,
they're going to have to face probably in January,
no long threat.
So you want that,
right?
You don't want every drive to be 16 plays and it can't all be on Lamar
shoulders squarely,
but whether the last week,
uh, tough, tough bills, defense on the road this week.
The funny thing is, I don't think he's going to face defenses like this
in the playoffs.
Do you?
I think those might be the two best defenses.
Yeah.
San Francisco and Buffalo, you mean?
Yeah, San Francisco and Buffalo.
Although San Francisco didn't look like it today,
but they had some injuries and that was a weird game.
But just in general, the Bills defense,
I thought they were awesome against your team on Thanksgiving.
They really came on as that game went along.
And I really liked what they did today.
I thought they did a nice job.
I know Lamar finished with three touchdown passes, right?
But I don't know.
I thought they did a good job.
I thought they really frustrated him.
They really tried to run to get him going in that game,
and they had guys always in the right spots
except for a couple times where they slipped up.
Yeah, he's my number one.
He's just dazzling.
If I have three hours with a quarterback,
I'm watching him over Mahomes.
That's just me.
I think, like, where was your rooting interest, though, as a Patriots fan?
Like, when that passed, before it's broken up by Peters,
Bills are going in the tie.
Were you relieved?
It was before your game, so you're forfeiting the one seed
if you're rooting for the Ravens.
I know, but I never felt like the Ravens were going to lose that game.
Did you?
Yeah.
I never felt like Buffalo.
They don't have that second playmaker.
Singletary is 70% there.
And I think there's a chance next year or the year after he can end up being like an Austin Eckler kind of guy who can win a game by himself guy.
He's not quite there yet.
And none of their skill position guys, except for Kyle's guys,
Kyle's guy, John Brown.
But even he is like, it doesn't seem like they have that one guy.
I just, I think of this poor Singletary,
like some of his friends go into him like,
hey, the nicest thing someone said about you,
a popular podcast host said that you could be the next Austin Eckler.
You could play your cards right.
Austin Eckler is really good.
I wish he was on the Patriots.
Yeah.
Over Sonny Michel and five carries for eight yards today.
I don't understand that, though.
Why does Belichick give up?
Like, I was looking at that.
I was like, Sonny Michel, I think, had 120 yards against the Chiefs in January. Like, run him back. This is where Belichick give up? I was looking at that. I was like, Tony Michel, I think, had 120 yards against the Chiefs in January.
Run him back.
This is where Belichick runs his magic.
You still don't want to talk about this game, right?
Are we just going to keep pushing this off?
Can I mention Buffalo?
Yeah, go ahead.
They scored 40 points total against the Patriots, Ravens, and Titans this season.
That's not a good sign for their round one hopes, I don't think.
The round one is looking.
It could potentially be the Music City Miracle again,
which we saw this year already, right?
Yeah, right now, Baltimore and somehow the Pats still have a bye.
The Pats are 10-3.
It does not feel like 10-3.
Then you have the Chiefs with the three seed,
Houston,
Buffalo,
Pittsburgh.
And right now it'd be Casey versus Pittsburgh.
And then Houston versus Buffalo.
And you know,
I know we'll be doing that when we do guess the lines,
but I,
I Buffalo at Houston.
I think that's a nice spot for Buffalo.
Oh,
you're saying if Tennessee doesn't win the division,
you are a Tennessee though.
Well,
that's the thing.
Tennessee plays Houston this week in Tennessee. And then they play them in two weeks
after that. Right. But they could really grab the division by the balls if they take care of
business. We have seven teams. I think everybody else is out. The Browns, Oakland Colts, they're
all six and seven. Denver's five and eight, but they're basically out. But we have- Best five and
eight team in a long time, by the way.
Denver.
Really good.
Yep, for sure.
Yeah, that's one of those, if you play this season 100 times, there's at least a couple
times they're nine and four right now.
Yep.
But I would say out of the top seven, Baltimore, New England, KC, Houston, Buffalo, Pittsburgh,
Tennessee.
And I know they just kicked my team's butt last week,
but I think Houston's the weak link of those seven.
What do you think?
Well, they're definitely, in a way, the least consistent.
Like, you're always the head scratcher.
It's like, oh, my God, Hopkins is so talented.
Why isn't he open all the time?
And, you know, yeah, but I wouldn't trust them.
I for sure don't trust them.
We don't have that Shakey's win yet, right?
That would be the Shakey's game.
Houston hosting Buffalo or Tennessee hosting Buffalo.
So, yeah, I don't really trust Houston.
They're 8-5.
They have at Tennessee next week, at Tampa the week after,
and it's a Saturday game.
It's that weird 1 o'clock.
We're supposed to be shopping with our spouses.
Right.
Pretending that football's not on, but we know it is game.
Right.
And then Tennessee at home on December 29th.
Yeah, that could be 0-3.
That could be 1-2.
It could be anything with that team.
That was the shocker of the day, that Denver score,
but it really wasn't.
I almost, I swear I almost texted you that I wanted to bet Denver today.
And you've lost so much money in Denver this year.
I just, I literally held off for that reason.
Well, here's what I did.
I got around that because I thought exactly that.
I was like, I can't keep losing money on Denver.
But I think this is a hangover game for Houston.
They beat up on your team.
I bet them under 26 and a half points.
And that almost came back to bite me. Oh my a lot of garbage time, lots of garbage time in that
game, but they did fall short. So that was good. I, uh, another game I had two games on today,
both because of the fantasy league that we're in that I probably watched a little too much of one
was Cleveland Cincinnati, which Cincinnati ran 20 more plays than Cleveland
did. Cleveland had 52 plays total. Nick Chubb was running 10 yards of carry, barely broke a hundred.
Right. That was on. And then the Miami jets game, cause I was going against the jets running back
and Miami kicked seven field goals, which I know I've never seen before.
Yeah. Have you ever seen that? No. And it was like six and 14 minutes of play or something, right?
Right.
We had that field goal performance,
and then we had Koo on Atlanta who had 18 points,
who was started against you in fantasy.
18 fantasy points and recovered a fumble.
Right.
So Koo manias.
And you think the Chargers gave up on him after after one game
basically and now he's one of the more reliable kickers i can't stand it i can't stand it i know
you we're gonna have to bring this fantasy thing up at some point but you were you were out of your
mind what a baby you are today you're gonna win your game now i'm not gonna win my game you're up
31 and he has carson wentz and the Philly defense? Yeah, and it looks like
it's going to rain tomorrow. They're not both
going to go crazy, right?
Let's try to do this in 45 seconds.
Our league does not have
playoff ad drops.
Hasn't had it for as long as we've done this.
We
voted on a bunch of stuff last year.
One of which was
if you're basically cannot feel the person at a position,
you get to add drop somebody before the game.
I voted no on this rule.
I thought it was stupid,
but it voted past eight to two.
You were one of two votes that two people thought it was dumb.
It was like,
let's just have playoff add drops if we're going to do this.
Right.
So the thinking was, if you had a kicker, like if you had Adam Vinatieri today,
and then all of a sudden he's not playing and Chase McLaughlin's in there,
you just get a zero, a kicker, you end up losing your playoff matchup
because this kicker didn't start at the last second.
Yep.
We never foresaw a scenario like what happened with the team I'm going against today
who has five running backs
four of whom are hurt right inactive yep inactive and yesterday is their active running back the
steelers i don't even know what number he i don't think they gave him a number he was negative at
one point today yeah so he had snow in place of connor and then had Le'Veon Bell who had diarrhea or whatever he had Friday
and he's got the red flag.
I'm not positive
Le'Veon Bell was sick. Are we sure he was sick?
Or was this like a fuck you by him?
I think he just did this to get you crazy.
Maybe. So then by Saturday, it's like
alright, well, if he doesn't play, they get
to pick up a backup. So they pick up
Bilal Powell who has
like 40 yards in two minutes
it's at when the games start and i'm like you're gonna be fucking kidding me that was good for like
five emails oh so mad so bad so yeah i it's my last year until until i've returned well i don't
believe that i mean it's been your last year for the last seven or eight so i don't believe that
i'm like hyman roth i've been dying of the same heart attack for 20 years.
But I want to know what is, what's the solution?
Because I always, so remember like a decade ago,
we had no ad drops in the playoffs.
We had a guy who had like Rich Gannon, a quarterback,
and Rich Gannon was questionable.
And he added in the playoffs, Tuiasa Sopa.
We called that Tuiasa Sopa gate.
I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
You can't do that.
Roster's locked week 13 after week 13. He's like, what the hell? I'm going to take a zero. Like,
yeah, you're going to take a zero. So Gannon ends up playing. It's not a big deal. Um,
and then, yeah, you're right. Like a decade later, we vote on this because everyone thinks
it's too harsh to take a zero potentially. Um, I don't know what, what is the answer?
Just extend the ad drop period another week, another two weeks.
I either think we have playoff add drops or you're just, you have your roster going to the playoffs and that's it.
You have backup at each position.
And if you get screwed, you get screwed.
I don't mind that.
Everyone's told me you're crazy.
No one does it like that.
I really don't mind that.
But as long as this rule is in place, I thought you went a little overboard because they would
have, if there was extended ad drops,
regardless of how many defenses they have,
they still would have picked up a Lyle Powell.
You wouldn't have picked them up.
No, but I would have picked up a defense, though.
I actually would have picked up Tennessee's defense
because I had the Bears going against Dallas
and I had the Niners against the Saints.
And I was like, screw it.
I ended up getting four points out of a defense.
And I probably would have taken somebody different.
I just think we should have playoff add drops.
Listen, I should be crying here.
I'm the crybaby here.
I was 10 and three.
I was 20 points away from a buy.
Instead, I go up against Damoshek's crap bag team was five and eight.
They've lost five in a row.
I've won five in a row.
I scored 120 more points in them this year.
And he slaughters me.
He puts in that guy, a tight end.
He put up a big zero last week.
Instead of dropping him, instead of putting the backup in,
he starts him and he goes crazy, and everybody else, Deshaun Watson,
garbage time goes crazy.
I should be the one who's crying here.
You left out, he had Koo.
He got 18 out of Koo.
Oh, yeah, Koo.
Yeah, he had like 30 from the kicker.
Koo scored more points than anyone on your team.
I hate it.
He scored nine times as many points as Alvin Kamara.
There's nothing as unfair as fantasy.
I mean, I guess you hear about kids being born blind.
That's right up there.
And then fantasy football is second to being unfair in life.
I hate it so much.
It ruined my whole day when they showed Bilal Powell.
And he's like, Bilal Powell is getting started early. He's got 38
yards. I'm like, what is happening?
This guy wasn't on their team 12 hours ago.
Oh my God.
I hate fantasy.
Ask Kyle. Don't worry about it.
I had to root against
Travis Kelsey and
Snell on the Steelers.
And every time Pittsburgh's near
the goal line, I was walking right next to the little TV the Steelers game was on just hoping it wasn't Snell on the Steelers. And every time Pittsburgh's near the goal line, I was walking right next to the little TV
the Steelers game was on,
just hoping it wasn't Snell.
It's, why do we care so much?
We win the league, you win some money,
and a couple people send you an email,
and then it's over.
It is weird.
It's like, what motivates you?
You want to beat up on your friends, right?
I mean, I was in two fantasy leagues,
not even the one we're talking about.
I'm in the playoffs, up 72% to 28% heading into the late afternoon games,
and I got crushed.
And one of them's a huge league against Clay Travis, who I hate anyway,
and I lost that.
I mean, Phil Rivers had like four years worth of games today.
Unbelievable.
Oh, my God.
Well, I'm up 31 points, and they have Wentz in the Philly defense.
Yeah.
So the irony of this, Eli's last start probably ever.
Eli has one more chance to put the red ball in my mouth
and fucking bring the gimp out of the chest
and do his business with me one last time.
Hey, honestly, you know he's going to throw
at least three interceptions.
Two pick sixes, you're done.
One pick six, maybe.
Wow, that's right.
So I have to sweat out fucking Eli and root for Eli to light up the Eagles.
The other thing is-
Now I have something to root for.
The other thing is Eli is exactly 500 right now.
Do you know that?
Yeah, no, we talked about that.
Yeah, yeah.
I had forgotten about it.
I thought it was a strategic retirement.
Yeah.
And now he's back.
And now if he loses, he's one under 500 for the rest of his
life. How many under 500 before you're yanked from the hall of fame consideration? I don't know.
I would say one. I would say he's one under 500. We got to take a break.
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All right. Let's talk Pat's chiefs really quick.
All right, good. I thought you were going to blow by this. I was going to get very upset.
Mahomes looks like he's played 45 football games this year.
Yeah. That's my first take just from rooting against him. He seems physically
compromised. What was your take just watching him in that game?
Yeah. I thought, I don't think it's been great look
he beat up on the raiders but there was some we talked about some backyard brett farvish kind of
nerf plays there that could have gone either way obviously they killed him uh the week before the
chargers not as good of defense as the patriots that was a one possession game i wasn't that
impressed with my homes and then uh kind of the same thing today.
Obviously, McCall Hardman, that past eight-year team up,
and you couldn't come back from that.
But not a ton.
I don't know.
I'm not as inspired by Mahomes' play as much anymore.
Well, they're home Denver next week at Chicago, home for the Chargers.
So pretty easy the rest of the way.
They're 9-4.
Well, everyone's excited about that.
But they still have to go to the Pats
and to the Ravens if everything plays out.
Like I was telling my friend Trevor,
our friend Trevor's a big Chiefs fan,
like maybe you want to lose this one
because you're not beating the Patriots twice.
The problem is I think the Pats
are going to have a lot of trouble
against Buffalo's defense.
You think about what the Pats did today
and they lost partly because
they scored twice in the span of five minutes and both touchdowns were not acknowledged, but
I feel bad whenever you get boned by the refs. I mean, they're, you know, you didn't get tripping
calls or anything like that, that didn't exist, but I do feel bad. An obvious fumble that Gilmore
was running back for a touchdown that they blew dead for reasons that remain unclear. And then the Nikhil Harry play, every time that happens,
they scored a touchdown because they know it's an instant review. And this was the one time all
year where the refs were like, yeah, fuck it. Let's just rule them out at the three. They have
no challenges left. They're fucked. Well, what's the conversation too? They had to talk about it.
The refs waving his hands above his head.
They usually look at the yard line,
but then put their arms up for the touchdown.
What's the...
Did you see it?
No, I didn't see it.
Did you see it?
No, I didn't see it.
Okay, let's mark them out at three.
But you're right.
You're exactly right.
Don't blow the whistle on a fumble
and call everything a touchdown
because that's an automatic review
if it's a touchdown.
Also...
Belichick was out of challenges,
so it couldn't be reviewed.
And react off how the guy's celebrating.
He dove for the pylon.
He got it.
And then went nuts.
Cause he knew he scored a touchdown.
I don't know about that.
There's some idiots in this league.
I don't know.
It just,
it was a touchdown.
But to me,
it's like,
call it a touchdown because you,
the clear and convincing thing is rarely a factor when you're looking at a foot on a sideline,
right? It's almost definitely he's in or he's out. You can never really be like,
oh man, as far as the ones that are close, that's not the one. So call it a touchdown
if you think his foot was borderline out. And then we were out of challenges because
Belichick had already challenged the play where they didn't get the first down.
He was a yard short and Kelsey
picked him on the play to get
the guy open. We lose the
challenge in that. We don't have one. I saw
Jerome Boger
at the beginning of the game and honestly,
I was like, oh no.
Like him and Hockey League, you see either of those guys
like, oh no. You just know
it's going to be a shit show with both of those guys.
Stop it.
Do you know what the penalty yards were for this game?
No.
What were they?
136 to 25.
Chiefs 136.
Seriously?
What are you complaining about?
What were the two touchdowns that got taken away?
What do those count for?
How about score one of those touchdowns?
How about on the last thing?
I'm with it.
Fourth and three,
you run the clock all the way down to one and then you snap it at one.
Like call the time out there.
You don't need that time out.
We had,
they're just trying to draw them off sides at that point,
which would have been the right thing to do.
But now instead they run it all the way down to one,
which yes,
now they are going to anticipate the snap count and you're gonna have to get
it off quickly.
And it was a nice play by the defender there.
There was some goofy coaching stuff.
They, when the Nikhil Harry play got called back, the Pats were completely unprepared
and then ran a play that lost four yards.
Yeah.
It was like, they had no idea they were going to have to run another play.
It was the same thing when Romo was talking about
how they're doubling Julian Edelman,
and then they threw him a wide receiver screen.
He had five guys on him.
Now it's second and 12.
I didn't love the play calling,
but the irony of it is they had four big plays
in this game, I think.
Two were trick plays, plays not thrown by Brady.
One was a Brady scramble on fourth and six,
which was just an electric moment.
I jumped out of the seat and did a little jig.
And then,
and then before you go on from that,
I almost feel like he could have scored there.
These guys are so afraid to touch a quarterback who's about to slide.
You're right.
And especially him.
I think he,
they,
everyone gave up at the same time.
And then he had the pass interference down the middle to Myers.
Those were the four biggest plays they had all game,
which brings me to my point.
The offense is just not good.
Like Brady's stats today are alarming.
This goes back to what we talked about last week.
He threw 36 times for 168 yards.
Yeah.
It's less than five yards an attempt.
And I don't, nobody's open three percent
over the last four games which is his worst four game stretch ever right i mean you know me normally
i'm betting on the pats in this game coming off a loss yeah oh yeah here we go people are counting
us out let's do it and like my cowboys they went right down and scored right right but they the
black field goal wasn't open, all that stuff.
I just think offensively, they're in a lot of trouble and they're going to play the wrong defense at some point in one of the rounds.
And that, you know, they, they try to do it today.
It was like backstool.
Okay, here comes Brady.
He's going to do his thing.
And guys just aren't open ever.
You know, I still think they're going to figure it out.
I still think he's going to make a stud out of one of these guys Nikhil Harry I know it's hard to see but you went pretty far
last year right what'd you win like the Super Bowl or something week 14 you lost to the Steelers you
scored 10 points I think week 15 you lost to the Dolphins which is never good well that's what it's
gonna have to be is the is the defense is gonna what's going to have to win the Super Bowl.
And I think we realized that today because I think the ceiling of this team, did the Chiefs even have a good defense?
Would you call them above average?
Is that fair?
The Chiefs?
Above average defense or average?
Average?
Their secondary is better than their running defense for sure.
So you'd go with average?
Middle of the pack? Yeah, I'd go average, yeah.
I mean, there were times you could run again.
This is what I mean.
Josh Jacobs had 80 or 90 yards in the first half
before the Raiders were forced to pass against them last week.
I don't know why Tony Michel, James White,
I don't know why they didn't figure that into the game plan more.
Well, Kyle and I have the answer for Tony Michel.
Go ahead.
Kyle, you want to tell them?
Tony Michel's not very good, so.
What?
Yeah, he's not good.
How did you guys hear this?
He's really not.
We can't throw it to him, and he's just, it's not good.
We also, we didn't have our center, which was a problem,
because he loves to do the little inside runs and stuff.
But anyway, listen, the Pats, it's like any other great team.
You just assume they're always going to come back until the bitter end.
And you could even feel it today.
That fourth and sixth thing.
I had friends that were at the game and they said like,
Gillette was like shaking.
Everyone was so fucking fired up that he scrambled.
That was his longest scramble in a while.
And,
or,
you know,
it's reminiscent of like the warriors last year against the rockets where it seems like they should have been done. And then It's reminiscent of the Warriors last year against the Rockets
where it seems like they should have been done.
The heart of the champ, that whole
thing is real. You could feel it in that game.
Nobody could get open
when they really needed it to.
I think you're going to be 12-4 at the worst.
You'll beat Cincinnati this week.
I think Buffalo's going to be
a huge problem.
The defense will have to win that game
Because I don't think
They're going to be able to get to 20 points against Buffalo's defense
I would prepare for the Chiefs
The next big game is the Chiefs
Mid-January
They're coming to you
And I think you're going to be fine
You just prepare for that game
Hey, last year Crown Royal launched the first
Off-the the field water break
To encourage fans of the game to moderate and hydrate
To stay in the game whether you're watching in the stadium
Watching at home or in a bar
Have a great time enjoy some Crown
Just don't be that person that ruins it for everyone
Make the right call and take a water break
So Sal
Who made the right call this week or not
You know what I'm going to give it to the college football
Playoff committee.
Now, they rank.
It was obvious.
It was fairly obvious who the four teams were going to be after Oklahoma beat
Baylor.
All right.
Then you got Clemson.
You have Ohio State.
And you have LSU.
And everyone was about to scream that LSU was not number one.
And it is the biggest waste of time.
And now I'm wasting everyone's time talking about it to decide who should be number one or number two.
These teams don't get home field advantage.
They don't get anything, any bonus for being number one.
Yes, you get to play number four, who's also a good team.
But guess what?
I don't want anyone to hear about people crying
that LSU wasn't number one.
Now they are because you have to win two games
to be the champion.
It doesn't really matter.
So good job by you, college football playoff committee,
for saving us all this anguish and all this nonsense,
making LSU number one and Ohio State further down the list.
I watched a lot of college football yesterday.
I'm just going to say this.
Everybody's only allowed four Tom Brady comparisons a game
during when Joe Burrow's playing.
It can't be every five minutes
because I actually start to get insulted after a little while.
I think Joe Burrow should be insulted.
Wouldn't that be...
Did you see Brady play today?
Wow, that really hurt.
They're comparing to vintage, old school Tom Brady.
I know.
But yeah, it's like, all right, settle down.
Tom Brady has six Super Bowl titles.
He's as good as he could be right now.
He works the clock great.
He's great.
He's faster than guys who look like they're much faster than him.
He's so good.
He's terrific.
Isn't he like a year older than Lamar Jackson?
I think he is.
I think they're like the same age or something.
Jesus.
Yeah, football was fun last night.
For my great call, so we did, I bet Andy Ruiz a million dollar picks on thursday it was very excited
he's plus 170 i couldn't believe he's an underdog then we get intelligence um through through the
form of the weigh-in which is very official that he was actually 16 pounds heavier than the last
fight so you know we've been around the block with boxing, both of us.
This is a huge red flag.
So naturally, I tell you, I want to bet on Andy Ruiz.
I'm not scared of the weight gain.
It can't be that big of a deal.
It had to have happened for a reason.
And I parlayed him with the Titans.
And it's right.
You did.
And it turned out the weight gain was actually a very big deal
because he could not move.
He was so heavy that he could not chase Anthony Joshua
really two feet to the left, much less around the ring.
And Joshua just did circles and threw a jab,
mixed it up two times, did what he had to do to win the ring. And, uh, and Joshua just did circles and threw a jab, mixed it up two times,
did what,
what he had to do to win the fight.
And I've really never felt dumber ever betting a boxing fight than that.
So it's the opposite of the great call of the week.
Me actually not being dissuaded by the,
uh,
the Ruiz weight gain.
I've learned my lesson.
Weight gain.
Or do you,
I mean,
this is going to sound like I'm making a joke,
but I felt like he wasn't hungry in this fight.
Like he wasn't, he just didn't care.
He was just like, all right, I hit the lottery.
Whatever.
Then he buy like two Maseratis or something.
He did it.
Does a bit with Guillermo and Jimmy Kimmel live where he's looking at like naked photos of himself.
Not very focused and just like, I'm going to stay on my feet.
And, um, you know, it was kind of, it went the way you thought the first fight probably
should have gone before the first fight, like domination on the cards. And that was that.
It was the Buster Douglas thing all over again, which is on Thursday. I was like,
I don't think this guy's going to be the next Buster Douglas. Like, oh, well he actually,
he turned out to be the next Buster Douglas. Just remind, we're going to know each other,
hopefully for a few more decades. The next time this happens, let's bet on the other guy.
Okay.
When the long shot guy wins the title and then puts on 15 to 20 pounds for the rematch,
let's bet on the other guy.
Let's do that.
I'm going to write that down somewhere.
Put that down on your eternal gambling advice for the rest.
Put that in your book.
You know what?
I think that's just good advice in general for our picks.
Bet on the other guy.
Well, the most frustrating part was he really only fights hard for one round.
And then they interview him after and it was like, Andy, what happened out there?
He's like, you know, I think I gained too much weight.
He says it to Chris Mannix or whoever was the guy in the ring
you know in retrospect
maybe putting on all this weight was a mistake
it's like yeah I think it was
anyway that was the
crown royal not the right call
this week crown royal reminds everyone
this football season to take a water break
and moderate to stay in the game
Sal this was the first time doing the lines today.
I actually got sad.
Why? Why is that?
It's week 15. We're getting close.
It's the last Thursday game.
We only have seven weeks of this left.
I know. I know.
You can't think of it like that.
What do you mean?
You think of it like that all the time.
I think of it as only three more Cowboys games,
and then I get excited.
Is this your last Thursday Fox thing?
This is it. Yeah, there's no more Thursday games after, and then I get excited. Is this your last Thursday Fox thing? This is it.
Yeah, there's no more Thursday games after this.
It switches to Saturday.
Jets at Ravens.
Going out with a bang.
I think you should push them to give you an extension, like a coach.
I don't think you should be in limbo.
Thank you.
You think I've earned it?
I think you've earned it, and I think they should do the right thing.
Okay.
You did a whole sketch on the clapper last week.
He was clapping in Chicago. By the way, that was fueled by the
ringer that came up
from the old ringer days and
now I got a lot of good feedback from it.
Thursday night.
Last one.
I wouldn't say this one's
going out with a bang. No, I know.
I was joking. Ravens Giants.
Ravens Jets. Ravens Giants. Ravens Jets. Ravens Giants
would have been bad too. Ravens against a team from
New York. So on the
bright side, a lot of Lamar.
Get to talk about Lamar, Lamar, Lamar, and Lamar.
The Baltimore fans will
be fired up and unfortunately the game
will not be good. I think the Ravens will be favored by
13 and a half points. That's exactly
what I said and we were off a point. It's 14
and a half.
That makes sense. Not trusting the Jets
who blew a... I didn't have... You had
that on. I didn't have that on, but apparently the
Dolphins came all the way back.
Well, and then the Jets won at the end.
Right. Yeah. And then Flores was
mad because they got screwed on a call in the last minute.
He came out to
yell at the ref and I actually was frightened.
He was, i think the
angriest i've ever seen a head coach after a game without actual physical contact yeah i don't know
what to do with this game like from the fox perspective i don't know what the angle is like
can you do well baltimore and the jets faced off in super bowl three can you do that it's not the
same baltimore it's not the colts but it is baltimore i don't know how you can reminisce
or make this uh nostalgic were Were you going to be,
are you going to be in Baltimore?
No,
I'm not going that last week was my last travel week.
Oh, that's good.
I don't know.
I don't know what you do.
I think you just make fun of jets fans.
When in doubt,
make fun of the jets.
Yeah.
That's it.
Jets have one fewer game when,
than the Cowboys,
by the way.
Son of a,
is that true?
Yeah.
Five and eight.
So if,
so if Sam didn't get sick, you could make a case. The jets would be in the playoff. They could, they'd be at least six and eight. So if Sam didn't get sick,
you could make a case the Jets would be in the playoff hunt?
They'd be at least six and set, right?
Yeah.
Jesus.
I can't believe this is the Sunday marquee game.
I crunched all the games multiple times.
I kept saying this can't be true, but it's true.
We're going to the AFC South for the Sunday marquee game.
Wow. Titans-Texans.
It's a division championship game, potentially.
I guess it is.
You're right.
One of these teams will be in the playoffs.
Kudos to the Titans.
We've been praising them week after week here on the BS.
I did my State Farm Safe Bet of the Week about the Titans on Thursday.
Really good job all the way around. Today
had the feel of a game where
it started to feel a little trap game-ish.
The Raiders kept coming down and scoring.
It was like, oh man, maybe they were thinking about next week.
Then they just took care of business.
Tannehill has been
really, really,
really good. They're already talking about extension.
When do we have to apologize to Ryan Tannehill?
Now. Are we two weeks removed from that?
No. Now. Let's do it.
Oh, we have to do it now? I apologize to Ryan
Tannehill. I don't know what I said, but I
apologize for it. No, we've said a lot.
Yeah, alright. I apologize
to him too. I think
he's been really good. He's been rejuvenated
and reborn. I'm happy for McVrabel
and I think that team is better than
Houston. 21 for 27. 3-91. 3 touchdowns for McRable. And I think that team is better than Houston. 21 for 27, 391, three touchdowns, one interception. A.J. Brown's a star right now.
Derrick Henry goes to the locker room forever and comes back and still has over 100 yards.
Six out of seven, as hot as any team. I guess the Ravens are just as hot.
And two throws that were really great. One was the 91 yarder to AJ Brown,
where you know the team is confident in their offense
when they run the play they ran,
where they were like, fuck it.
You just think, oh, they're going to keep running Derek Henry
and try to get a first down.
And they actually looked at it like,
oh, this is actually a good advantage for us.
Let's go over the top with AJ.
And they got it. And then that touchdown he threw when he was scrambling to the right oh, this is actually a good advantage for us. Let's go over the top with AJ.
And they got it.
And then that touchdown he threw when he was scrambling to the right and he threw across his body to the left side of the end zone,
that was just a great football play.
Like if Aaron Rodgers had been that player,
everybody would have been like, oh, Aaron Rodgers.
Wow, he did it again.
Right.
And Tannehill, that was as good as any play
that any really good quarterback would make.
All right, we apologize.
What else do we have to say? I'm sorry, Ryan Tannehill. I don as good as any play that any really good quarterback would make. All right. We apologize. What else do we have to say?
I'm sorry, Ryan Tannehill.
I don't remember what I said.
Titans three and a half over the Texans.
You're going to get it.
I went low.
I still didn't, as much as I apologize, didn't believe in the Titans and didn't think Vegas
would.
It's exactly three.
I went one and a half, so you get it.
No, I'm betting that tonight.
Just telling you now.
You like the Titans, huh?
I do.
Screw a game. Like we said, they play in two weeks from Sunday.
Here's the other thing with the Titans.
Have they ever had a quarterback who can do the things Tannehill's been doing the last six weeks?
I know they had Steve McDaniel, who was great,
but he was a different type of quarterback.
They just sat through, what, four years of Mariota?
Yeah.
Who were the other quarterbacks?
I can't even remember.
A lot of crap, right?
Yeah, a lot of guys with initials or first names. I don't know.
I couldn't even.
One of the Titans quarterbacks.
If you're a Titans fan,
you've got to be out of your mind right now.
It's very exciting. This home game, I can't even
imagine what the crowds are going to be like. Yeah.
This is one of those
where I think their home field will
actually really matter in this game. Vince Young,
obviously. Vince Young with Kerry Collins.
Then the Hasselbeck, the Jake Lockers,
Fitzpatrick. Yeah, Jake Locker. I forgot
about him. Yeah, there's a little Fitzpatrick. And they've had
a lot of bad quarterbacks. Zach Mettenberger.
Oh, no. Oh, yeah.
I have three watchable games
for us.
First one, Packers-Bears. It's in
Green Bay.
The Trubisky-holics,
we had to take their keys Thursday night.
They were getting super frisky.
Just be careful.
Be careful with Mitch.
You can have one drink at the wedding, but don't go back to the bar.
I would be not optimistic about his chances against Aaron Rodgers and Green Bay.
But then again, if Green Bay does the thing where they play really well for 17 minutes
and then just hold on the rest of the game, who the fuck knows?
Sure.
I have Green Bay by six and a half.
You went high.
I went even higher.
I said eight and a half.
It's only five.
You get it.
Now, this was the first game of the year.
This was September 5th.
This was the Thursday night opener.
And Green Bay, it was a lackluster affair. Green Bay won, what, 10 to three or something? now this was the first game of the year. This was September 5th. This is a Thursday night opener and green Bay.
It was a lackluster affair.
Green Bay won what?
10 to three or something.
And everyone was like,
Oh,
what's wrong with the bears?
How does that happen?
Yeah.
And now we think green Bay is so much better than Chicago,
even better than Vegas.
Thanks.
Still not to think not a hundred percent sold on green Bay.
Yeah.
That would be a pretty soft two seed.
Chiefs, Broncos, and Kansas City.
I put this in the watchables because I think the Broncos have earned it.
Even though they're 5-8, I think they're an incredibly watchable 5-8 team.
They've been involved in a lot of fun games.
They've had injuries to major guys that seem like that should have just ended their season,
and it did not.
And these games are always fun. But I have the Chiefs favored by nine and a half oh i had 11 and it's 12 oh my
god now this is one of the few games that the broncos didn't compete and they lost 30 to 6
middle of october to this chiefs team but 12 yeah they're gonna want to they're gonna play
tough denver but i just don't think that
quarterback, he threw an interception.
It was going to be, I don't know, I thought they
had that game in hand, and then Drew Locke
unlocked the game
for them, and the Texans almost came
back a little bit. One thing I'll say on the
Chiefs, really
bad batch of running backs because of all the
injuries. They had Spencer Ware
out there. Spencer Ware got wa Yeah. You know, they had Spencer Ware out there.
Spencer Ware got waived in training camp, they said.
And then I guess has been just home like us the last three months.
And then all of a sudden was getting major run in this Chiefs Patriots game.
They, they, he doesn't seem like either.
I know McCoy has been banged up, but he doesn't seem like he totally trusts him.
They have 17 guys named Williams, all of whom are either hurt or terrible.
And that Darwin Williams, I think they were counting on a little bit this year.
He had a huge drop in the first half, and we didn't really see him again. I think Spencer Ware lives in Andy Reid's basement, or maybe the room underneath the
basement.
He's like, hey, we're eventually going to need you at some point in the year, so don't
go too far. We're going to chain you down here, all right? No to need you at some point in the year, so don't go too far.
We're going to chain you down here, all right?
No, I think he's in the guest house, like Kato Kaelin.
Is that what it is?
He's in the back.
Yeah, he's in Kato, yeah.
But I think it's hard for them to extend leads
because they can't run the ball.
That was the biggest reason the Pats hung around today.
Last one, Cowboys-Rams.
To me, this is watchable in a train wreck kind of a way,
but also has the potential
to be a good one.
You have Dallas.
Every game is do or die now
at this point for you.
You have the Rams,
who are really starting to feel good
about themselves again,
which is usually a recipe for disaster
if you bet on Jared Goff.
You have Goff on the road.
I don't know what the fuck toff on the road um i don't know
what the fuck to make of your team i don't know how jason garrett's still the coach it feels like
cowboys by three oh you did do that see you were um you're gonna get it i said cowboys by one and
a half it's exactly three you were very surprised that they were favored over the bears and turned
out to be correct that they shouldn't have been but they continue to give the cowboys respect i don't don't know. I saw that Rams team. I'm like, this isn't a team that the Cowboys could
beat right now, but maybe we don't get tonight's version of the Rams on Sunday.
I think the Cowboys and Lamar, they just add a field goal to the line.
Is that what it is?
Yeah. Because everyone loves Lamar and they know they have so many Dallas fans and so many Dallas
people who think they're going to come back.
That that's just how they do it.
Barely watchable.
Hold on.
Let me ask you something.
Do you remember Jerry Jones back in the,
the Jimmy Johnson,
the Switzer days,
the day when they were winning,
do you remember him doing this many press conferences?
Did he do it that much?
Or was it,
is it just,
we remember it now more because it's,
it's, it's, well, it's
happening now and their coach, we just want to find different ways, see how he defends
the coach.
Did he do it as much back then?
I just think people lose their mind when they hit their mid seventies, when they're public
figures, as, as we're seeing with the election right now with everybody who's running.
Right.
Yeah.
I just, I just think everyone's like, that's why they're losing. Cause he's doing press. No, I just... Because everyone's like,
that's why they're losing
because he's doing press conferences.
No, they won't.
No, they're not.
They used to win.
They used to do press conferences
all the time, but...
Here's my theory.
I think he feels really good about...
He got a lot of positive attention
for the Amari Cooper trade.
Right?
Because he took a lot of shit for that
and then that trade
really turned out well.
And then he pulled off the Zeke contract thing. It just seems like his chest is out a little bit.
He's kind of like, yeah, I'm the man. And I think maybe he is the man, but Jason Garrett,
do they have an agreement? Did Garrett say, look, we're not cooked until we lose to the Eagles.
Just please give me that chance, please. Well, you know, Mallory was on my pot
on Thursday. She was throwing Lincoln Riley's name out a lot. Yeah. Would you be excited about
that? He's up there. I mean, he's taught, they have the same names mentioned Lincoln Riley,
urban Meyer, all the same guys, Harbaugh's thrown up in there. Yeah, I would do it, but you know,
he's not a guy that's going to bend over to Jerry, you know, now you're bringing the guys we talked
about Switzer and Jimmy Johnson, who he kind of swore off since then because they give him too much
trouble.
But he's getting up in age and he might think, all right, how many would I have a half dozen
years left?
Maybe if I'm lucky, maybe more.
I don't know.
We got to win soon.
Well, Urban Meyer would be good because he couldn't have a scandal because you're allowed
to pay your players in the pros.
Oh, there you go.
No, I mean, that's his Achilles heel, right?
He can't run a team without getting into a scandal.
Listen, he's a Fox guy.
You can't have a scandal with the Cowboys.
I can't say anything.
Fellow Fox guy.
You can't say anything?
I'm just talking about him as a coach.
Fellow Fox.
I practically share a dressing room with him.
What am I going to do?
He's really good on College Game Day,
whatever that show's called.
What's your show called?
I think that's what it is.
The Stoner Show.
They won in the ratings last week.
Really good.
Yeah.
Stone's on fire.
Won the title.
He hosts a popular show.
It's crazy.
The Barely Watchables, I have four.
Tampa Bay is at Detroit.
Jameis can never dip below Barely Watchable.
The Lions, however, can.
So I compromise between the two.
The Lions are pulling him down.
I had the Bucs by four and a half.
You're going to beat me this week.
I had two and a half.
It's four.
I should have gone higher.
I forget about this other guy.
This Blau guy that he's playing.
That's all I need to know.
30 for 30, Jameis.
Vikings are at the Chargers.
Chargers won by 35 in a game that one person saw.
Right.
I have the Vikings favored by four.
All right, I get this one.
I said three and a half.
We were both heavy here.
It's only two and a half.
So that's a mistake, and here's why.
There's more Vikings fans out there than people realize.
For sure.
It's definitely a generational team
along the lines of Steelers, Cowboys, etc.
And I think there's going to be
a lot of Minnesota fans there.
It doesn't even matter who the team is.
Yeah, it's always more.
And the Charger fans are wearing Vikings jerseys now.
You figure there's 20,000 Minnesota fans here,
probably some Minnesota fans making the trip because it's December.
Yeah.
A little West Coast trip.
I have newsflash for the Vikings fans coming here for the game.
The weather's been awful here.
So enjoy your 80-degree trip where it's going to be 50.
Exactly.
But at least you won the game.
Let me ask you this.
This was initially the Sunday night game.
They flexed it out for Pittsburgh-Buffalo.
Do you think they factored that in?
It's just weird to show all Vikings fans in a Chargers home game
for that first swooping shot.
Probably, yeah, because it's not like Pittsburgh Buffalo
is that better of a game.
No, and you know you're going to get, aside from today,
you're going to get a last-second meltdown from Phillip Rivers.
What's better TV than that?
Next one, 49ers, Falcons, Niners are home. I had nine and than that next one 49ers falcons niners are home
i had nine and a half for the 49ers all right i had 10 and a half i'm coming back here a little
it's 11 oh that's high falcons you know what i'm gonna throw in the ball this week you're not gonna
like it but i'm gonna make you make a three-team teaser you can put the niners in there i think
we'll put the niners in there we're gonna put the aforementioned ravens? I think we're going to put the Niners in there. We're going to put the aforementioned Ravens in there. And you're scared of
the Chiefs,
but there's another one coming up. Yeah, I'm not doing that. I'm not doing
the Chiefs.
Last one, Seahawks are at Carolina.
Carolina fired their coach.
So long, Riverboat Ron.
We'll miss you. It looks like they're
going to clean house and then some.
This is also a Lincoln-Riley possible
destination. They got killed today. I have the Seahawks by five and then some. This is also a Lincoln-Riley possible destination. If you got killed today,
I have the Seahawks by five and a half.
I get this.
I said seven. It's six and a half.
You're winning. Look at you.
That could be a decent one, too.
Did you see them losing two in a row?
From what I saw from the Seahawks today,
I'm going to be frightened to bet on them again.
I know, but Carolina,
they figured it out. You hold McCaffrey to 130 total.
You're good, right?
That's it.
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poopfecta is five deep. We start with the Pats. Thank God they're playing Cincinnati today.
Cincinnati looked okay in that Cleveland game. They definitely are able to move the ball
offensively and do some stuff. And this just feels like one of the more depressing pats roads games
road games in a while because there's not a lot of people at the cincinnati game i'm sure there's
not a lot of pats fans in cincinnati and uh just a weird one i have the pats by ten and a half and i
i i think this should be thrown in the teaser basket yes it is you You get it. I went 12 and a half. It's 10. Pats, Ravens, 49ers. Who
blows that? Come on. That's a win. Isn't week 15 the week that we say every year we have to be
afraid of? I thought it was 14. We should look back and see. I thought it was 15. Well, let me
just say this. So it's all Brady, Brady, Brady Brady but if you lose the 1 and 12 Bengals
it's Belichick right so in a way he's going to try harder than he's tried all year well the real
incentive is if Cincinnati I thought they tried too hard in the game today if they win one more
game this year they should fire everybody everybody. This Joe Burrow,
this guy is a game changer.
They can't fuck this up.
They have the inside track on them now. You can't win another game. Throw those last three away.
It feels like Tate
and Mixon are limping off
every play anyway.
Might as well make it official.
Throw them in the blue tent and then just duct tape them to it.
Giants-Dphins in New York
I have the Giants by 3
you're gonna get it
I don't know why I went so high here I said 4.5
it's 3.5
Dolphins are half decent
Dolphins are half decent
out of the bad teams
they're half decent
so 5 of their 11 offensive players are decent.
No,
I mean,
for,
if you're talking bad teams,
they at least try and they're well coached,
which is more,
more,
more than we have with some of the ones we're about to mention.
Eagles are in Washington.
It just seems like the Eagles play somebody shitty every week.
And,
and there's going to be
just an incredible number of
Eagles fans at this game. I had the Eagles
by nine. No, I got this
exactly. I said six.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, they don't trust them.
Okay. They're not that good.
They'd just be lost to the half-decent Dolphins.
I know.
I thought in a weird way the redskins are actually
when they're home it's actually should actually affect the line for the road team more than
no really you know what i mean because it's so depressing their home games their fans are so
bummed out i just feel like 132 27 at home the first week of the year this could be close raiders
are home for the Jaguars.
Raiders technically not out of it,
but it feels like they've gotten just annihilated the last three games.
I have the Raiders by five.
Yeah, you hit it exactly.
I said three and a half.
Let's count these up.
Three, four, five, six, seven, eight.
That's a bad game.
Oh, no.
Eight, six?
You're up eight, six?
Well, I'm probably going to lose this next one.
There's three left.
Browns, Cardinals in Arizona.
Let's see if Freddie can keep Nick Chubb under 12 carries again.
I have the Browns by one and a half in Arizona.
All right.
I get this one.
I said three.
It's two and a half.
There was a whole Baker got in trouble again today. He was talking about Odell had a hernia
and their training staff kind of messed it up. He apologized for throwing them under the bus.
Then he apologized for throwing them under the bus. But it's like, if we're in Jimmy Kimmel,
when the first year we were on Kimmel show, and if you'd given a press conference after the show
and said, you know, that our talent bookers
have just really screwed this show up.
We can't get any guests.
And then you had another press conference
five minutes later apologizing
for throwing them under the bus.
Would they forgive that right away?
Or are they just going to feel like
they were still thrown under the bus?
Interesting.
Well, you remember the documentary, was it the New York Times did? And every department
threw the other department under the bus. The first year, that was the first year.
If you push someone under the bus and they get run over by the bus and then you're like,
hey man, I'm sorry I pushed you under the bus. Right.
But I just got run over by a bus. Am I supposed to feel better at that point?
I don't know. That's a good question.
Tough one.
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I don't know.
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Rough year for Baker.
I'm not sure the endorsements are going to be trickling in this summer.
I would love to stop talking about this.
Yeah, let's stop talking about it.
No, is it possible?
What do they have to go like?
Six and 10?
And then we still have to talk.
I mean, I, well, I'll say this one more thing,
but Odell talks like he doesn't have a contract, right?
He has another year. Is this just how it goes?
Like the Kyrie Irving's in the Odell Beckham's like, all right,
I'm moving on. I'm happy to say it in the middle of the season too.
Yeah. I think that's how it goes.
Come to new England, Odell. Sunday night, flexed.
Steelers, Bills, in Pittsburgh.
This will be a really, really, really fun, fascinating glimpse
at what we might be in store for round one.
I had the Steelers by two and a half.
That's exactly what I said, and it's one.
So does that mean you win because we tie?
Yeah, you're done.
I knocked you off.
No, I have eight.
You have nine. We have one left one left yeah this bill steelers i don't see a lot of points i don't i don't trust duck
i think they barely won that game did you watch that arizona game kyle murray really screwed up
a couple like not even rookie screw-ups like what are you what are you doing you could run for first
down on third and two from the six and then he throws a pick in the interception.
It was worse than that.
It seemed like he could have run for the touchdown.
Yeah.
You definitely could have gotten the first down for sure.
But he,
he's a rookie QBs and rookie point guards.
You gotta be super careful,
but,
um,
he does a lot of dumb stuff.
Hmm.
And I don't know how much of that is coaching or whatever, but he
makes a lot of mistakes.
And it's a team that
it's pretty frisky. They're always
kind of hanging around in these games, right?
Even that game today,
it was 23-17. It really felt like they were
going to come back. It's a good one. That Thursday
nighter against San Francisco, they were in that
game, but there's always a
dumb play that takes them out of it.
Monday night, Saints-Colts. It's in New game, but there's always a dumb play that takes them out of it.
Monday night, Saints-Colts.
It's in New Orleans.
Going for the tie here.
I think the Saints are going to be favored by seven points.
I get it.
As it's seven and a half, it's eight.
Three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine.
One, two, three, seven, eight, nine.
Nice.
Jesus.
I choked on that.
Why is it eight?
Wait a minute
is this
is this a
is this a teaser game
hmm
is TY
it depends on TY
if TY is playing
I just think with TY
they're a good team
they just wondered
when do we get back to the
Saints score 30 at home no matter what
is that over with
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Sal, you have the floor. All right. This is not going to make me look too good,
but none of them do. So it doesn't really matter. So my son is wrestling. He's a ninth grader.
Every week or so, he has like a novice tournament somewhere different. This week,
it was in Santa Monica. Now here's the thing. There's no buses for the freshmen and sophomore so they have to get to the wherever it is on their
own so luckily my wife has to drop him off at the school he's carpooling at 6 15 in the morning
and he gets to Santa Monica he weighs in he's been wrestling for like three weeks he doesn't
have many skills other than what I've taught him and through a few practices. And he's heavy. He's like six foot one. He's 153, 155 pounds. And so he's wrestling all sophomores pretty much. So it's
been a rough road and he gets there. And the way they do weight classes out here, you don't get
like, you know, when I grew up, it was 132, 138, 145. And I think it's like that here too,
once you get to varsity. But here, when you get to the tournament, they take all the kids in a pool and they bracket them off like every 15 pounds. So he
was in the one 50 to one 66 weight class. He's one 53. Cause he overate on Thanksgiving. So now
he's wrestling older kids, bigger kids, more skilled kids, 13 pounds. So I was like, all right,
call me when they call the one 20 pounders. And I drive over to Santa Monica. So I kids, 13 pounds. So I was like, all right, call me when they call the
120 pounders. And I drive over to Santa Monica. So I said, text me. So he texts me, I get there
and he's about to wrestle and he gets flattened in the second period. Like the kid obviously had
more, it was like very low center of gravity. He was closer to 170 than 150. It wasn't even close.
So he comes up and he's like i think that's it i was like oh
shit you're quitting and he says no no no i think that's it it was double elimination i already lost
earlier i was like what are you talking about you just called me as what'd you wrestle 10 minutes
ago he's like yeah i wrestled like 25 minutes ago i was like what is this a wwe don't they give you
what is this is dumb he's like i was like so what happens now there's no bust and he's like well
i should stick around i was like yeah i think now there's no bust and he's like well i should stick
around i was like yeah i think you should stick around watch the rest of your kid the tournament
so i call uh my wife i'm like hey no reason to come out here it looks like archie's done for
the day and she's like oh i wanted pizza in santa monica joe's pizza you've been there right yeah
one of the best it's great i was like all right i don't care i'm out here if you want to make the drive that's fine um we watch a few more matches the tournament ends we go to joe's pizza um
he's down in the dumps we order a pie half pepperoni half cheese it's great
and uh i have uh one slice i'm about to have my second slice and um a homeless man the homeless
is crazy in santa mon. He walks in and asks,
he's like, can I have a slice of pizza? And there's three slices left. It's one pepperoni,
two regular. And my son Archie is like, oh yeah, of course. And hands him the pepperoni.
And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I want the pepperoni. And now we have a Curb Your
Enthusiasm moment where everybody everybody not only my family but everyone
in the place is looking at me and i was like i want i want the pepperoni i don't mind parting
with a slice but just uh and now like the homeless guy is looking at me like come on dude are you
fucking kidding me i don't even know that he likes pepperoni it was just offered the right
if he didn't make say that he preferredoni, why are we offering the pepperoni?
But anyway, Archie gives me the look.
Everybody gives me the look.
I'm like, all right, I'm beat now.
And he walks off with the pepperoni.
And by the way, I'm very charitable.
Giving Tuesday, I donated a ton.
And I could have just bought another slice for another $2.50.
But was I wrong to want the pepperoni in that instance?
Yeah.
I mean, that's definitely you should ask everyone else at the table if they want the pepperoni.
Thank you.
Would have been my move.
Yeah.
Right.
Okay.
So it sounds like it was a really fun car ride home after that.
It was really good.
It was.
My father's a lunatic.
Taking pepperoni from the homeless guy i'm worried about homeless people's clogged arteries i think i should
take the cheese is better uh so i was on the phone the other night and uh and my wife and
my daughter were downstairs in the kitchen and my son came down the stairs and he was crying.
So we thought he was crying.
He was holding the back of his head.
And we're like, oh my God,
like he fell off the bunk bed
or he fell doing a wrestling move
or he jumped off the dresser
and onto his wrestling dummy.
Like all the usual things you do to get hurt.
Now, he hadn't gotten a haircut in a long time.
And his hair is like, Kyle, his hair was crazy.
Yeah, it was getting unruly.
It was just, I can't even describe how long it was
and out of control it was.
And you can get away with this in California.
And he decided he was getting a mullet in the back.
So he took the scissors like you would use to cut paper or something.
And he tries to cut the mullet, what he thought was like a mullet in the back.
And then he didn't do it even.
And then he went to the right.
And then all of a sudden he had basically cut.
Now he looks like Moe from the Three Stooges in the back.
And he's crying.
He's like, I ruined my hair.
And we're like, Ben, are you serious?
Like, how freaking vain are you right now?
He's like, I ruined my hair.
Super upset.
And it's inconsolable.
So then Carrie's like, I'll fix it.
I'll fix it.
And they go upstairs.
They come back down.
And she comes down first and gives
us the look, me and Zoe, the look like, whatever you do, don't start laughing like that.
That looks, and we're like, okay.
So he comes down and we're like, oh, it looks good.
It looks good.
It looks terrible.
It looks, honestly, it looks like he has, he's a 12 year old with a toupee.
So, so about 10 minutes in,
I just can't take it.
And I started making fun of him.
He gets super upset.
He runs upstairs.
So then the next,
next two days he goes to school wearing a ski cap.
So his whole back of his head,
but the ski caps pulled down.
So you can't see that like his toupee shelf back of his head.
So then Carrie takes him to somebody close to us,
like somebody close to our house to just get a- Like a psychologist?
No, no, no.
It probably should have been.
A salon that's in our neighborhood just to quickly fix it up so it looks better. She's like, no, no, I'm going to fix them, fix them. It's like in our neighborhood just to quickly like fix it up. So it looks better.
And she's like,
no,
no,
I'm going to fix them and fix them.
It's like,
all right,
great.
Well,
I think,
I think we should just cut it.
He's had crew cuts before he's had,
he's,
you know,
tight cuts,
whatever,
just cut it,
start over.
She's like,
no,
no,
she can fix it.
So he comes back and now it's like a bowl haircut and I'm dying.
I'm calling him Dorothy Hamill.
Remember Dorothy Hamill's haircut from 1976 Olympics?
Probably doesn't hurt his feelings because he has no idea.
No, because he's actually a good ball buster.
So now he's making fun of himself
and he's just wearing a cap every day.
And we're calling him Dorothy
and I'm calling him Cagney and Lacey
and all these different things.
He doesn't even get the jokes.
I'm making myself laugh.
And so he has that going for a couple of days.
And then finally, Kyle steps in and takes him to Fernando the barber, Kyle's barber.
What did he think about it?
And Ben actually ends up this Saturday, yesterday, with a pretty cool haircut.
I say, oh, wow.
It was a four-day odyssey.
But the important lesson here is don't cut your own hair.
Right.
Yeah.
For those of you scoring at home.
For a girl, for sure.
And for a boy, yeah, it's bad.
In his defense, the back of his hair was completely mangled it actually looked
like it like a hate crime had been committed like somebody had jumped on him on the sidewalk and cut
the back of his hair so anyway so there you go well doesn't he's had a mohawk before right that's
the thing he's had a mohawk he's had crew cuts he's had all this stuff but um he's just he's just
lost his mind.
Hey, I got to finish the CarMax story because Kyle and I went to CarMax on Saturday to look at this Mustang.
At CarMax, the price is based on the car, not your negotiation skills.
No haggling, no pressure to buy.
Kyle was surprised by how easy and hassle-free the whole car buying experience at CarMax
turned out to be.
They covered him with a seven-day money-back guarantee.
He has a full week.
We're in it right now to make sure every little thing
about the Mustang was just the way he likes it.
Came with a limited warranty, which covers the vehicle's
major systems for 90 days at 4,000 miles,
whichever comes first.
Max care service, did you get that for additional coverage?
Oh, you know I got that.
Yeah, you got that as well.
My pass, yeah.
And the whole thing was really easy.
Have you gone on that site, Sal?
No, I haven't yet.
Yeah, you go.
You just put in your budget.
What kind of car you're looking for?
And Kyle was basically like, what kind of convertible can I drive down Melrose and smoke
cigarettes in?
And that popped up.
That popped up.
Really?
Seven, eight choices.
American.
Yeah.
He's American.
Kyle, you's a week though
so you could return it and get something else you can keep returning i don't think i don't think i
have it in me no he loves this car i can't oh he does he's so happy he drove over today he made he
made a call on the car nice super happy so yeah start the search for your next car carmax.com
sal kyle's like give me give me one of uh andiz's car, whatever he bought, his first six cars
he bought after his big payday.
Well, you know, Kyle had a terrible car story when he moved out here.
Yeah.
He bought a lemon.
Oh, he did?
Yeah, he really did.
He bought a lemon that, what do we call that car?
Betty.
Betty.
Betty died quickly.
Dorothy Hamill.
Betty was like one of those puppies your parents get when you're a kid that they're like, what
happened to our puppy? Oh, he'll be happier on a farm right um that was betty what are we going
to name this car i like maxine i don't want to rush into anything all right well do we tell us
next week in the third i mean flash if you name it flash gotta be a girl right yeah it's 2019 i
don't know i'll figure it out what's that 2019 you got two weeks it's only 2019
for so long way to go kyle uh what else do you have to plug this week so oh we got uh well i'll
be on thursday night football like you said on the pregame jets ravens is the last one of the year
you're doing a bit making a pick locking in i'm king again i turn a profit of over 600
starting with a thousand and against all odds, Tuesday night, download us the gen,
the degenerate trifecta, uh, and Jim Cunningham. We were four and oh, with our best bets,
Jim Cunningham's $2 million pick, you know, he's rivaling you, uh, four and oh, more locks to come
out. $2 million pick. Yeah. I don't know how high this can get, you know, like Mallory does 4
million and then, uh, you know, just keeps going up and up and up. I don't know how you can go crazy.
Sal, as always, good job by you.
Good job by you, Billy.
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