The Bill Simmons Podcast - Seattle Spanks the Patriots, Drake Maye’s Mystery Stinker, and Parent Corner With Cousin Sal

Episode Date: February 9, 2026

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You know what? Fuck this. I'm out of here. You sit down. You sit your ass down, boy. You go wrestling promo at me? It's over. It's over. Let me say my peace. Drake, baby.

You can't be the one who saves me. That is that. There ain't going to be no Dynasty 2.0. The re-Apex. The re-Apex is dead. A dreadful, despicable performance by Drake maybe and Mike Brable and the New England Patriots. What a disgrace, a complete no-show,

and is not a damn thing you or Pat's Nation or Bob Coosie could do about it. The Seattle Seahawks win the franchise's first ever Super Bowl. Is that it? That was their first one, right? I love it. Let's look it up. I'm going to have a heart attack.

Take it away. Take it away. Is this what you've been reduced to lighting and another team's losses? You really help me out here. I would not have cared about this game if not for you. I appreciate it. Thank you.

Silver lining's for me. Number one. By the way, this is the Bill Simmons podcast. I'm Bill Simmons. That's Cousin Sal. We are live on Netflix right after Super Bowl LX, which was a Super Bowl L for me and the rest of the Patriots fans. Silver linings for me.

I didn't go. Thank God. That would have been awful. I mean, really, that's why you don't go to the Super Bowl for moments like that. I was actually on text threads. Like, would you have tried to sneak out early pretend to go to the bathroom and put, But you almost have to bring a disguise to the game to go out. That's my first silver lining.

Second one, Darnold, who I thought was good, but missed a couple throws that this game could have been like 50 to 7. But this could have been like an absolute shalacking. Like he missed Shaheed on that long pass when he was open. He missed JSN got stuck away when he was under pressure. He missed him on that. But there was like a couple big plays. The Walker play got called back.

They could have 50 points. 29, what was that, 2914? Is that a silver lining, though? Because they sucked you back in. So that's not great because it definitely sucked you back in. 50 to 7, you're good. You could have left. You could have walked out.

I got sucked back in twice and I hated myself. Silver lining number three. You're having a great time. I don't like how much fun you're having. I can't believe there were three. Go ahead. Maybe in the legend of Drake May down the road, this would be the game, you know,

in the two-hour documentary about Drake, May after he won five Super Bowls. It all started here with the pain of Super Bowl LX when the Seahogs battered him and he got sacked and he set the Sacks record and he set the Sacks record and the Fumples record.

Everything. You name it. All the postseason records. Garbage time yards records. Worst EPA since they've had EPA since they've understood it to measure that. But there's been other athletes that have had bad moments like this and they've like Kobe had the terrible game in Utah, I think his rookie year or second year.

Nobody remembers it now. Maybe that'll be Drake May. Okay. Silver lining. I'll keep going. That's very exciting. Christian Gonzalez was really good. I want to shout him out.

The defense was good for three quarters. I thought we did a good job. And this Pat's team, you know, this was a gravy year. We were supposed to be two years from now. We weren't supposed to be in the Super Bowl this year. Right. Silver lining. I told you that.

Overachieved. Over the shame this year. Yeah. And the truth is, there weren't really any, there were good AFC teams, but that was it. There was no one special. The Seahawks team was kind of special.

I thought the Rams were special. I'm not just saying it because of Stafford over May, whatever, but the Rams scored on this team. And I think they have extraordinary receivers and tight ends, and that was the difference. But otherwise, Seattle shut everybody down for months. They were a good team. And AFC team didn't deserve it.

You sent George Sanders to the Pro Bowl, for God's sakes. And that's only because Justin Feevers, didn't accept. So the NFL Flaqo went too. I think we sent Shreder Sanders and Joe Flacko. The FACC didn't deserve it. So if you want to add that as a silver lining, do whatever you want.

I have one more silver lining. Thank God Drake made it and win the MVP. We would have had like a Dirk Nowitzky, 2007 situation where, you know, he ended up losing by one vote. And now I'm at peace with it. It's a big night for Justin Herbert. Yep.

Well, let's go back to Boston. We should talk about Seattle. Yeah, go back to Boston, man. No, let's go Seattle. It was their night. It was a really good team all year. Advanced metrics said they were great. I test very good, but the Rams had, what,

479 yards against them two weeks ago? Yeah. This was an awesome game for them at the right time, and it moved into that pantheon of great Super Bowl defense performances. So you got like 2,000 Ravens, the Legion of Boom Seahawks, 85 Bears. would you nudge them in that area or this was just a great game by them? No, I think so.

I think just what I said, some reason the Rams had some voodoo and were able to score points. And even though they lost two out of three to them, they were able to move the ball. If you look back, nobody else did it for like 10 weeks. And yeah, I put him right in there. I mean, you know, he ended up with 295 yards, but you really can't go buy that. What you need it is, I'm sure we'll go deeper into the game is, you know, it wasn't a blowout. It was the case where you had to be. fourth and two, fourth and three a bunch of times

and you punted and it was the right move because you were only two scores down, right? Yeah. And Kenneth Walker was the difference in the first half and you know, whatever, whether he was going to win the MVP or not, it's like this guy, that's what you needed. You needed the running back. You needed the big 15, 20 yard play from the

running back to get you out of the field position mess that they were in. Well, it was 197 and we got to stop. We got the ball back. And then Drake through that pick that was just awful. Yeah. It was like he was trying to get all 12 points back.

It was also weird. We didn't go for the two point. I didn't understand that. Why not make it 19 to 8? So it's a field goal and a touchdown. Thought that was weird. I thought some of the two points stuff was weird in this game. But yeah,

they sucked me back in. I'm not going to lie. Because it had the makings of almost like the Falcons game where it seemed over, but there was a lot of time left. And when they got the ball back, they're like, wow, there's 12 minutes left.

Yeah. Super Bowl is weird. It's really like, they take forever. we've seen the second half's turn. Like I think you had, I want to say you had five first downs at the very end of the third quarter. And then you had like two. You had one through a penalty.

And then you ran for one or something. And so he ended up like with seven through three. I was like, this is not, damn it, this is not over yet. And then he connects on that touchdown to that psych ward escapee, Mac Hollins. Yeah. Hollins hit all his over us today. It was one of the few bets I won. Yeah.

He'll be in the league for a while. It seemed like he was the only guy who was kind of sort of open. Very stable, dude, yeah. Well, so you had this defense, which, you know, against the Rams, they had one sack, and they gave up almost 500 yards, but maybe the Rams were even better than we thought. I guess that's the only thing I can think of because that happened in Seattle. Collinsworth was all over it. Yeah.

Being able to rush the paths with four people, basically, do these out of nowhere blitz is. But then it seemed like the big thing they were trying to do is make sure Drake and scramble at all. And then none of the receivers seemed like they were open. So it was like all the worst possible things. The Pats haven't, they haven't had a game like that all year. Like even when they, the worst game they played all year was Vegas in week one. And even that game, it was a one score game.

They haven't had a game where they got their ass kicked like that in five months. No. Well, you're not going to have the Raiders on your schedule every week. What are you going to do? No. I'm sorry. I love it. No, they didn't let him scramble.

So the schedule stuff's fair. Didn't let him set his feet. Well, the one thing with the schedule day, everyone's like, oh, he played the same defense is basically as staffers. And you can only play the defense, but smart people were actually saying, yeah, you can only play the defense. You're not playing their offense. That's not really like smart people, not you, but smart people were saying that's not,

that's really not true because the bad offenses you're playing give you good field position. So you're going to score points, right? So that should be factored in. Our defense was really good tonight. Like, definitely. I thought they were matching everything. And at some point, you can only make the other team. punt so many times or settle for field goals so many times and then do nothing when you have the

ball and it finally seemed like it broke them when did you think it was over and when did they suck you back in was it when jsn came out when he had like a fight with a blue tent and then he was off to the locker room was that like oh boy this is yeah this is what we needed no I thought it was over when they went up what was it 21 zero or whatever it was 21 zero 20 20 20 no what it was I can't remember. I can't remember. Right? I thought it was over.

And then when they did the stop and they were down two scores and it seemed like they could actually, I felt like they were back in. Then I thought they were out again. And then it just was about saving face after that. But they did suck me in. They stuck me in. I think they sucked all the pets fan of it. So the defense, that's one.

The Darnold redemption, I think will be one of the legacies of this season. And especially him doing that against the Patriots, the team that broke him. He kind of passed the ghost. over to Drake May during this game. Probably was watching from the other side. But he missed a couple of big throws. He avoided some sacks. I thought he moved around in the pocket.

I thought the pass rush was there the whole game. And he never like threw, he almost threw a couple of picks but didn't. He never got stripped. Like he just was efficient. It was exactly what he won. And I thought as when they went up 9-0, it was pretty clear probably to them like,

hey, we just can't fuck up on offense. And we're going to probably win the Super Bowl here. let's be a little conservative. So they did what they should have alone. I didn't text you guys. I know your patriots were off texting fans were texting each other. I stopped. I stopped second half. I stopped doing my phone. I didn't want to give you hell. I'd rather give you shit here. I owe America for this. So, uh, so that's that. What did I do? But I would say this like, Darnold, I was thinking, I was like, oh boy, if there's a live line for a Darnold interception, like halfway through the first quarter. I was waiting for it. It's like, where the hell is this thing?

And he just, it never, I thought that alone was going to win him MVP. The fact that he didn't throwing interception. But yeah, you're right. Like he scrambled and then like he did the hard part. And then he had, who was it? It was, was Barner open? Maybe. Yeah, Barner got the TV. By the way, Barner, yeah, you called Barner first touchdown. That might have must have been exciting for you. Wasn't. No? Yeah, that wasn't. You're so hard to please. That wasn't exciting for me. The MVP thing. So Walker won. I thought he should have won. Definitely. Who would you, who would have been your runner up for this? Because there was a Witherspoon case, I thought. he was a complete maniac in this game.

Byron Murphy was good too, but Witherspoon, those unexpected blitzes that he just timed perfectly combined with the fact that their secondary, basically completely locked down on the pass receivers. I thought he was in the mix. He was good. It's almost harder to give a defensive player MVP because there's always two or three, right?

Right. It's rare that one guy, only one guy. And I think, like, Cowboys, Denver, they gave it to Harvey Martin and Randy White. they like screw it. We're going to give it to two here. They did a combo, right? Like, we can't think of this.

The only other one I was thinking was Myers, but I was looking at his odds, his live odds. They never got past 13 to one. I was like, geez, how many field goals this guy have to kick? I actually would have voted for Dixon over Myers. I thought Dixon was awesome the whole playoffs, but he's like, he's just a complete weapon over and over again. Never screws up. It's always like there was one time when it seemed like we had a chance to get some field position in the first half. And he just 51-yard punt, no return.

Yep. You know, or if it's like inside the 10, he's going to actually put you inside the 10. So for the Seahawks, their craziest most memorable game of this year when we look back on their season was that weird two-point game. Thursday night game? That's going to be the Thursday night two-point comeback game is going to be. Huge. It swung everything. It swung home field for playoffs.

So you have that. You have revenge for the Malcolm Butler game. And then from a legacy standpoint, I hope this is. the case, but the team that broke Drake May. Drake Bay will be fine. He's 23, but I hope this is in the start of some sort of new direction of his career that they would get to plant

their steak. I hope it is. You really hate Drake, May. Look, I had a lot at stake. I have a crazy reputation in this industry. And I labeled him, Drake, maybe. And I, you know, that that reputation was in jeopardy, Bill. I don't know if you understand, but yeah.

Yeah, it took a while. What was your favorite part of the game? Imagine me wallowing me and my sadness. His fumble, I think. That really, really did it, right? The strip, yeah. The strip, yeah. And I don't want to, I'm joking for a lot of this,

but that rush was so damn good. It was so good. But I also feel like, you feel like Vrable let you down a little bit. I'm not questioning the fourth and twos and everything, but some of the play calls, you ran on third and five early, and then you punt it on fourth and three,

too. So I felt like you were giving up. I felt like you played a lot of that game up until the fourth quarter. You played a lot of that game as if you were playing Denver in the fourth quarter last week. And that wasn't going to spark any big plays. I thought the strategy in the coaching was terrible. Yeah. The whole game. I just didn't understand what they were doing, especially like they brought that eye

formation in once and ran for eight yards. That was like this big formation they had that was actually successful. And you kind of needed it the way the Seahawks were playing defense. did it once and we never saw it again. I didn't understand why they weren't getting the ball out fast, why they weren't rolling him out side to side when his legs are so good. Like, why not try to buy in time? I can't tell you, like, people watch today, maybe they didn't watch the Patriots that much. Their offensive line has been this bad all season. Like this is, he's just, he's navigated this. It's been one, it was one of the reasons I thought he was MVP. Like, there was one guy

that voted for Justin Herbert for MVP. He was seduced by the seven seed. He was. He's just, he's and his case was like he was running for his life the whole season. He didn't have his tackles. And it's like, did you watch Drake May? Was Drake May not running for his life? And, you know, the Pats fans threads I'm on are like, did he just take too much of a beating this year? Like, could this have been? Oh, please.

Well, nobody's ever been sacked or probably taken as many hits in four straight playoff games like this. There wasn't one easy half that he had. And it's like, and this was. This was what it was like the whole season. Earlier in the season, he was controlling it, maybe partly because the schedule was easier. But by the time we got to this game, but that was what he was doing all year.

He always had people around him. He was always like pulling. He had like five wild plays a game. How many wild plays did he have today other than the bomb the Hollins? Like he really didn't have any. I don't know what to say. I mean, maybe that's the case.

There are some quarterbacks that take worse beating. Like Baker Mayfield, I feel, Joe Burrow. If you just look at his stats, Stafford over the years. None of those guys were able to get to the Super Bowl except for Burrow that one year. But I wouldn't say it was his shoulder. That's what I...

I don't think that was it. I don't think that was the problem today. I really thought like some bad play calling by the coach of the year. And your guy wasn't able to execute. And you needed a remandre or something. Someone to break a big run or a big screen pass or something because it just wasn't there.

Well, there was a couple, like that blitz when the play that ended the game, basically, when he got hit as he was throwing it and it went right to the defender and the guy ran for a touchdown. Too late by that. They showed the all 22 of that play. Witherspoon's leaving.

Stefan Diggs is over on the right side. There's nobody on the right side and he runs 15 yards downfield. It's like, you don't see this guy's blitzing? Why don't you run two yards and stop? And then May has like the quick pass. It just felt like they were not on the same page. It was like Seattle had stumbled upon

we'll rush for, but then every once in while we have this blitz. they're not going to have any idea what to do every time we do it. And even in the fourth quarter, then I have an idea how to do it. We got to take one break. Don't go away. I don't trust us taking a break because then you might not be back. We'll take a break.

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And the number one thing. they're going to seize on is Drake May. Good. He choked. Is he hurt? Did they lie to us? Is this just Drew Bletzel all over again where he got us to the precipice? But this is just who he is.

He didn't really play two good halves than any playoff game. He got worse as the playoff. They're going to do the whole thing. You're an impartial observer other than the fact that you make them to Drake, Drake Navy and then the Patriots fans. I think it's mostly going to be fair. Because if he's going to get all that credit and, you know, one vote away from MVP is a goddamn lot of credit. He should get a little shit for, you know, whatever.

They have six sacks. I'm not going to say he could have avoided all of them, but I thought he could have done a better job with a two or three. He should have done a better job than Darnold did with your rush, which is just as good. I don't know what this says long term for me. He's still a great downfield thrower. You don't see that much. I don't want to praise him right now. I'm sure they'll go over the top a little bit, but yeah, he is to blame.

He was horrible. Thank you. I've watched every step of his career, I think, and that was by far the most frazzled and terrible he's ever been in a game that I've watched. And he missed, Collinsworth, they were doing a good job of pointing out. Like, he was missing open guys. The defense was really good. The defense, there were still spots, and there were guys open, and they were plays to make,

and he just didn't make the plays over and over again. And at some point, it was like the punters coming out for the seventh day time. And it was usually because he missed a throw or he didn't see a blitz coming from the right side. Or we couldn't block for him or all three of things at the same time. It was just really bad. I didn't, we haven't seen the postgame stuff. I'm sure he would be the first one to say it. Like, I was terrible.

I don't know what happened. As a fan, you watch every play, whatever. You and I now as a fan because I need him to fail because of my stupid nickname. But you get in a routine of, you know, if his feet are set that a pass, you kind of don't even need to see the result. Like, you know, like, oh, his feet are set. He's rearing back. He's throwing.

There was something where he couldn't get to a spot. He, like overthrew booty on a third down, like flying across the middle and everything. But even when he was setting his feet on that second interception, you're like, oh, that's got to be complete. He's throwing this with such authority. Right. Didn't even have that. It was way off.

Yeah. He just seemed it seemed like they sped the game up on him with the pressure that they had. And I think he knew the left side of the line, which couldn't really block all year. I mean, I was saying all year, how are we going to make the Super Bowl when we can't block? But they figured it out. They patched it together. But something, the accumulation of those four games or something about maybe the stage, easily the most frazzled he's been.

Not only with the guy, not he was missing behind, he was throwing the wrong guys. he was thrown too hard that was one thing he never really did during the season like he had that one play when I forget it his booty or digs

was over the middle and he threw like a John Elway cannon it was like just too hard the guy was open but he just could never get the timing down and then finally

it felt like he was starting to get into the rhythm in the fourth quarter and then the sack interception play happened but he just it took him three quarters what it should

not that he was lights out in the fourth quarter by any means but it took them three where it should have taken one right This is the story of the season, though.

Especially if you look back, there were all these games where they would just stink for an hour. And then all of a sudden he would get it. And you could see it happening in real time. It's like, oh, now he's in a groove. Here we go. So he's a young player. Obviously, he's achieved more at 23 for an NFL quarterback than just about anybody. But this is how he's like, how do I get better?

You get better by starting the game in a way, you know, that's not, you're not peaking two hours later. You kind of want to start the game that way. Yeah, now he's done. So I don't know what. So do you go back to Mac Jones? Like, Tua's available. I'm trying to, you could get lucky in the draft.

Some of his throws today were honestly two-esque. They were throws of quarterbacks that we've made fun of, which, you know, again, Seattle's defense was awesome. It didn't feel like any receivers ever seen that open. They couldn't really run the ball. And they took away a scrambling. And that's it.

What else is Boston going to say? So that's one. Will Campbell's going to, it's going to be a rough week for him. And I like Will Campbell, he's a great guy, but there's going to be a lot of, is he a bust? Should we move him the guard? That'll, that'll, they'll get a month out of that. Right.

Is this guy good enough? Do they need a left tackle? They spent the fourth pick in the draft on a left tackle. Do they still need one? That'll lock that down. McDaniels will take hits, I think, for not really scheming anything that seemed to make sense. And it's like, this is why he failed his head coach tonight.

We'll hear that. The easy schedule. team frauds, that'll go the whole offseason, especially as we're talking about what are their over-unders for win-totals, their division odds. And they'll end up being pigeonholed now as like the Washington of this year. It's like, yeah, they overachieved, harder schedule. Are we sure they were that good anyway? They'll get all that.

Do we want to, well, I guess we'll go over odds separately. But along with what you're saying, it's not just New England Boston Radio that is a, is, not fond of them in 2026. True. Yeah. I think that's, that's, that combined with how weird the Denver game was. There's going to be the karma of some of the stuff, some of the off the field stuff that happened. Combined with crafting and the Epstein emails, like people have a field day with that.

Oh, yeah. That'll happen. Drake betting on the Patriots, I think will be a deal. The other Drake. I asked you last week, I said, what moves a needle for you? Any of these trends or anybody betting it? Drake was definitely number one at the top. Drake was my number one I was the most scared of.

And then I think the one that's really going to have legs is whether Drake was hurt. I think that's going to because we never find out until after what was wrong with people. And this was a guy who threw, he completed like 73% of his passes. He was one of the most accurate regular season passers in the history of professional football. And then in the playoffs was not accurate. So what happened? And there is that that video from two weeks ago. which I've had a lot of people

mentioned to me when they were miced up. Did you see it? I don't know what the Denver game. McDaniels comes over to him. There's like seven minutes left and Drake says to him, this is hard. This is so hard or something like that.

Oh yeah, yeah. And McDaniel's like, I know, buddy. I know. Listen, man, this is all going to be worth it. And the original original interpretation was that it was playing in the snow was hard.

but then there was this next level he's saying this is so hard because his shoulders fucked up and he's playing hurt and that's why this is so hard so then he comes out what did he miss 10 throws in this game in the first quarter

when he was 13 for 26 like most of those were were makeable throws like three of those guys were probably cover but it felt like a bunch of those guys were open so I think that's going to be the biggest thing coming out of this let me ask you this if you're an athlete

of course when you're an athlete we can't relate right? They're just playing at such a high level. But let's just say as a podcaster, if someone said, well, Simmons didn't sound good on that pod. Do you think he has mononucleosis? Like, wouldn't you rather that be the criticism? Did he eat carbs yesterday? What happened? Great. Wouldn't you rather that be the talk? Then, well, he doesn't have his fastball anymore, right? If I'm Drake May, I take that criticism. Like, all right, they think I'm injured.

And yeah, of course, that wasn't 100%. So I'll take it. I'd love to know the truth. I was going to eat pizza. night, by the way. Do it, buddy. The other thing, this will be the really dark corner of the Boston Sports Media and then the radio shows, people know who they are. But the Patriots, City of Champions, we've won six Super Bowls. We've lost six too. Nobody's lost more Super Bowls than the Patriots. We're only six and six. I guarantee somebody would do that by Wednesday. That's stupid. We're only six and six. Bating 500 in the Super Bowl. Congratulations for making it so many that. Somebody will do that. That's stupid. Guaranteed. I have one. I have one.

more I could add. Oh, throw it in. They tanked the game on purpose. The difference between the 31st pick and the draft and the 32nd pick. It's a very rich draft. Their board was 31. It's offensive line intensive. You don't need Seattle stealing that pick from you if it's reversed. They tanked. What do you got?

I brought some DVDs. Are you going to eat them like I did? Super Bowl 36. That was a good win. Okay. This was, I think the Panthers. That was a good one. Yeah, John Casey. Oh, this was the one about the 21 game winning streak in the third Super Bowl.

Yeah, see? It's pretty fun. There you go. Good story there. Oh, really enjoyed this. I think this is third Super Bowl, too. The second Super Bowl. It's great.

This is the sixth one. I couldn't find all of them, but I got some. Yeah, there's articles. I'm going to sleep with these tonight and cradle them. Cradle them like a baby as I try. to fight off the tears. This was such a bad week for Boston. Aside from you doing the coozy thing, which is nice.

Honestly, there was so much negative Boston mojo that I thought there's no way it would continue. I thought, oh, crap. Belichick doesn't get in the hall. He gets snubbed. Brady kind of turns on the team. The fans, led by you, turn on Brady. I was like, this can't continue.

This means the Patriots are going to win by 25. You know, they say all great families have dysfunction. Yeah. But all in the same week. Oh, and then Jordan wears that shirt? My God. Oh, the Taras game. She really escalated it with Robert Kraft.

Yeah. She wore the t-shirt of the spa that Kraft was at. Yes. When I first saw that, I was like, oh, man, that's harsh. And then I said, that's pretty good. Like, that's kind of in our wheelhouse of comedy. She just goes, they have the Super Bowl, just comes out with this stealth spa thing

because they obviously blame craft for not getting into the Hall of Fame. So how did that start? You think he's like, hey, you know, it would be good if you wore this shirt or was she the brains behind then and says,

I'm going to wear this and then he has to decide how far he wants to take it. What do you think? I have a third option. She just did it and he had no idea. What?

At what point, did he have no idea? She just, they were out together and she was wearing a t-shirt. I don't, maybe he didn't know what it was. Come on.

That's craziness. You don't think so? I think that's in play. He doesn't know now. He still doesn't know? I think odds are they were out already. And she's like, by the way, do you notice my t-shirt? He's like, oh, I thought we're on to the fanatics party.

Were there organs of Asia jokes at the roast? I thought that was, he would have to know. But maybe she tried to hide it from him until they went out. Yeah. God only knows that this woman's capable of. Can you explain the Brady thing to me for a second? Because you went on a walk, a brisk walk, and you just, you went off. And I didn't really understand it.

Well, here's, which part didn't you understand? He played for the Patriots for 20 years. We have a statue of him outside the stadium. Yeah. He played with Mike Braybill, won multiple Super Bowls with him. And it's like his legitimate friend. Like they would go to like the Kentucky Derby and stuff. He played for, he cared about craft and supposedly cared about the fan base who always kind of stood by him and defended him.

Well, I think that's the part I didn't understand. Like, we stood by you. You did deflake it. We still was like, all right. Well, he got railroaded into Flake 8. We didn't defending him like that. No athlete ever got defended more of a syphrosy. I know, but it's not like it got nothing in returns.

It's not like Browns fans stepping up for Deshaun Watson. Like, he gave you six Super Bowls. Like, how dare you do this to us? I know, but he got railroaded. We loved him. We loved, everybody loved Tom Brady. It's like you really have no dog in the race. I think there's probably a deeper element to it with how we left the team is a theory I've heard

from reliable people. them not giving I think he wanted like two years, 50 million maybe he was thinking he he'd get a piece of the team down the road and I think they maybe he

maybe there's more going on with him and craft than I think we know. I think it's human nature maybe he shouldn't have said it out loud but I feel like you know I get that he's a phony I don't believe that he eats Pizza Hut

just like I don't believe that you drink Pepsi but whatever so now this is the one time he's telling the truth and everyone's like whoa, like, it's natural to not want your old team to win. Isn't it? Like, you wouldn't root for ESPN.

If they had a whole thing about, oh, ESPN's ratings are through the roof and the NBA pregame, whatever, you wouldn't, you would not send an edible arrangement. Isn't it different, though, when the team comes with fans and a fan base? I don't know. Maybe he must feel about this Hall of Fame and everything else.

And now he's tied to- The Rams were in the Super Bowl, Kurt Warner, would be like, I don't have a dog in this race. And I'm trying to think of, like, compare it, Ben Rothusberg. with the Steelers or like it's kind of the Aaron Rogers would say and I think that's what bothered people about this Brady thing yeah just say just say I really love the fans I had great 20 years there I would love to see them get another one because I know how much it would mean to them

that's all you have to do I guess I mean it's completely tied to the raiders now is the only thing tied to another team he does announcing like he's supposed to be at least impartial on on a lot of this wow it feels like there's a little more there so what 2025 team do you think was the most watching this game. Maybe the Rams, I think. I almost think Puka could have gotten some MVP votes tonight because of what we just, we talked about a couple times.

I went with the Texans. What? Yeah? Texans. What are they mad about? Dalton Schultz was at a Super Bowl thing. And he got, was getting interviewed by somebody and he was saying,

I'm still mad about the playoffs. Like, I really felt like we had the, best team in the AFC and I just didn't think we played well and it's still it's always going to gnaught me or one of those quotes and I was like if I was on the Texans I probably felt I would probably feel that way to feel that way to us in that game it was like a way worse version of what happened of Drake made a day but you probably watched the Patriots tenure like this is why you know like really we couldn't have we couldn't have made it in this spot and I would say the rams would be the other one but the Rams legitimately lost to the Seahawks last week yeah I think they'd be mad like they could

say, well, we were just in the wrong conference. We were one of the top two teams. I think that's what they could say. Whereas I think, man, I would want to say who's mad. I really think like five or six AFC teams could say they were like, you know. Broncos was my other candidate because they could say if Bo Nex doesn't get hurt, you know, at the tail end of a game we were winning anyway, you know. And then I think there's a Bill's fans.

Sure. Would have a small case too. Like, I don't care how good your defense is, Josh would have figured it out. Drake's not Josh. So maybe those four? Yeah, I mean, throw the Jaguars in there too if you're going to throw Houston. They barely lost. Come on. Well, listen. I don't know. That's it. Do you want to go over odds? I'm trying to think nobody else in the NFC, right? Well, wait, I had one more thing. Okay.

Because I actually think that game ended up in an okay place. It wasn't good, but it wasn't like a F plus or an F minus because the fourth quarter was kind of fun. But I was trying to think of the worst Super Bowls of the last 50 years and I was looking at the list. trying to think which one. I think it was still better than Rams Patriots. Rams Patriots had on there. The Steelers Seahawks won in 05 was really bad, had that one. That Broncos, Panthers, the Cam Newton game in 2015.

Right, right, right. And then Packer Stewards was really bad, even though there were points in that game, but that just wasn't. Those were kind of like my four least favorite, but this is definitely up there from an entertainment standpoint. Yeah, I mean, well, Seattle killed Denver. I know you don't want to. acknowledge it, but 43 to 8. That was just never a game.

But that was like an even more dominant defensive performance than the one today. Right. This was dominant, but then also had this weird, what the hell is going on with Drake May subplot at the same time, which is pretty unusual. I mean, I guess Tampa, Kansas City,

I mean, we just wrote it off that Kansas City's offensive line was done, and that's why Mahomes couldn't score double digits. Yeah. Yeah. This year was kind of similar to last year. Right? Yeah.

Just like to kind of. Oh, in Philly, Kansas City. One team couldn't block the other team. Right. You're taking this well. I would say you're taking it. Well, I had 20 minutes to recover before we came out. We should have done this in the third quarter.

There was, did you watch any of the pregame stuff, or were you like talking to people? A little bit, not too much. So Matthew Barry gave us pick. Yeah, I don't know. I didn't say that much. They asked Drake May. They showed this thing. about somebody asked him what the last thing he Googled was and he mentioned some some bag this

was during Super Bowl day uh-huh it was one of the questions was what's the last thing you googled then he actually looked at his phone some bag? Some bag? Like some bag that he was looking at for like some travel bag so my wife said um I wonder what the last thing I googled was and she looked and it was best hot dog in Los Angeles. That was fun. That was a lot about my wife. My wife loves hot dogs. Good for her. And then I eventually made it. her leave. The bad that she got mad that I was getting mad about

the game, which was like, we've been together since 1998. You should know what kind of demeanor I'm going to be in as Drake May's ceiling passes all over the place. Did you watch a lot? Was it just you and her, or you had a couple of pets fans? Ben was popping in and out. Yeah. I think that's the way to do it with these gay, even if it's not your team. Like, I'm

done what, I went to a party for like a half of it and I was just like, the questions people were asking, just like, so, wait a minute. So you could, you don't, you You don't have to bet the four and a half. Like, you could bet a team to win. And, like, like, people, like, demanding an explanation of that. And I just, like, I feel like a doctor who's dealing with a patient's like,

okay, you say my rash is this, but I read that it's this. Like, you're just like, oh, my God. But I'm more important than a doctor, but you know what I'm saying. What did you think of the bad bunny shit half time? Because I thought it was awesome. I thought it was really cool how they produced it. I really thought it was memorable. I don't know what my favorite halftime ever was,

but I thought this one was really good. Oh, it wasn't my favorite, but I like that I cash. I like that it was distinct. Yeah, right. It was like a video. It's like, if that was a video, you're like, oh, they just kind of just paid for thriller in 13 minutes. Yeah, it was different.

And there was some stealth messaging, which was enjoyed. Right. But listen, it's as good as anything that's not in English that I don't understand at all is going to hit me with. My wife asked me what he was singing about, because it was all in Spanish. And I said, he's just singing about what the hell is going on with Drake May. Why can't hit his receivers?

That's what he's saying. They should have been subtitles. That's what it would be. Why can he connect a pass to anyone? When he comes out with the football and then does like two routines in a row with the football and you're like, you know, it's coming. It's going to be like, Bad Bunny, Russian Yards versus Drake May rushing yard. Oh, God.

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Plus tax at participating restaurants for limited time. Terms apply. See app for details. It's time for Tams. Yeah. Super Bowl bets. So Seahawks covered. The game went under.

Yeah. It was getting creaky there for a second. That would have been a shame. The Pats didn't have quite enough time yet to do the, whatever. What were the Walker MVP odds? That was like. 6.50, about 650 plus 650. Maybe a little more.

So we talked, when we did this, we talked about, we thought JSN would be the one if it was the non-quarterback. Yeah. I got to say that one of the shocking things about the game today, and I thought the Pats defense was good, but nobody's run on them like that with Milton Williams. Like Walker had, I think a 29-yarder or 30-yarder, like an 11-yarder and a 10-yarder.

Like that just didn't happen all season. So I thought he was really good. He did it. He kind of did it last week, too, though, when he looked like you had him bottled up, and then he would just take it around the edge, and he would beat this guy to the edge and be a nine- or 10-yard run. And then he does, like,

Levy on Bell thing where he kind of like stalls in the hole. And like he's got a lot of, he's got a few moves. He was really good. Yeah, he was really good. I thought still it was going to go to Darnold until the last couple of drives there. I was like, I looked at historically like, you know,

Eli and Peyton had games where they only threw for one touchdown. Their yardage was, you know, pedestrian. They still won. Joe Namath had no touchdowns, won the MVP. I was like, that's all you kind of need from the quarterback, Donald. but Walker definitely deserved it all sitting down.

I thought the over under firm was 72 and a half. That was one of the props that I liked. I liked the under. They're going to shut him down and make Donald beat him.

And I guess they mostly shut him down except for he broke a couple, but he was great. But one thing with him, because I looked this up during the course of two weeks, like I don't think he had more than 19 carries all season.

Right. And in general, it was basically like a 15 to 19 carry guy because they always had the Charbonnet piece. And he had 27 in the game today plus a couple catches. He had a drop where he got hit, but it was a way bigger workload. National Anthem, he went under. Under by like six seconds, which was, which moved like three or four seconds.

You could feel it early. Like he definitely was going with pace. It was interesting, the line dropped by like a second and a half as it was going along during the week, which is usually a red flag. my biggest bet whatever my biggest bed I have to lose like $500 before kickoff otherwise

so I lost with heads head tails but to hold a note brave I had over three and a half seconds that hit and they did something the director did something I've never seen before they usually cut right to the fighter jets

and so you don't even know when officially the song ends because you can't hear they somehow got him ending brave and the fighter jets in the same shot I was like wow we're living really cool time now. So that guy,

that guy definitely had the over. Yeah. He wanted to make sure his book he saw. Coin toss was tails. No. Heads, right? I mean, I'm sorry, coin toss was heads. Yeah.

You had, you had tails. I know, I put tails in the same game parley. Stupid. Kind of ruins it. First score was the Myers Field goal, but first did he was Barner.

There you go. And then all the cup overs hit. So Cup and Hollins were the ones that, everything, if you bet JSN, everything lost. under right. Remandre had a TD, so if you had one, that one hit. And then the Seattle defensive or special teams touchdown, which I think was like plus 850. That ended up hitting. That was good.

Wait, what was your boys rushing yards? That was like the most bet prop. That and Walker receiving yards. Walker over 20 and a half receiving, I think was the most bet prop. But May Russian yards. He had 37. May. May and 37. No, that's, I think that was. I think that was over. Wasn't it? We're going to get. Was he crushed for this? Stevenson was under.

Stevenson was seven for 23, but then Stevenson had five catches. Walker was under on his thing. And then all the punts and Seattle field goal props hit. Oh, yeah. There was a Seahawks one. It was where you could bet seven points.

The kicker had seven points. Kicker would have 10 points. You could go up to 13. Mm-hmm. And I'd started getting pretty pricey on those. And then if you had Byron Murphy with two sacks, that had to have been like, that was probably like 25 to 1 or something. Yeah. We gave out some good winners last week.

We did. I like Pat's over nine and a half, second half. More points in the second half than the first. I lost with that. Bad Bunny, no head gear to come out. I like that. The anthem under we gave out. Brave over three and a half seconds.

Remandre first quarter, 10 plus yards. Yeah. That one hit. Yeah, that one. Yeah. You know, it didn't hit was Pats plus four and a half lost. That was very close. Loser.

Cardi B. Cotaways under, I think, right? Do we see her once? Under one and a half. I don't think so. And the Gatorade was, it was yellow, lime green, which opened the plus 250, went to plus 135. Yeah, you got that right. It fits with the Seahawks, correct?

I got that wrong. Yeah, that was nice. Did Zane Lowe have a prop? Because they showed Zane Lowe at one point. Who's that? Your NBA guy? No, my friend from Apple Music. Exactly. Which that would have been a good bet because it was the Apple halftime show.

Oh, right. But yeah, they showed Zane Lowe with Bieber. Just looking cool. That's Zane Lowe. What a guy. What else hit? I'm thinking my under one and a half yard line touchdown there was bad. My quarterback MVP was bad.

Did we ever have a, we never had anybody inside like the five? No, it wasn't really close. Yeah. We never got that passenger. Prince in the end zone. I thought we were going to get it on the paths in the second half. Seahawks 5 plus sacks was plus 450. We mentioned that. And Will a team

score three times in a row just seems like so you would add that by the second quarter. That's a wrap. Wow, plus 450, good price on that. Yeah. No scoregamy. No Brady Russell. Brady Russell, first of all, he was one of the

captains. He was one of the six captains to come out. I was like, oh, you lost that one. They must really like. him for him to i don't know maybe there's paperwork the captain has to do is you have to sign something i don't know why they would have but he made a tackle on the kick return but that was it somebody sent me eric and bellingham sent me this long email about how the patriots had won super bowls on the first um third twice fifth sixth in the first twice and then the seventh it would have been the seventh that they won in the first week of february wondering if that should now be to be to the second

declared Patriot Nation Week in New England if they won their 7th in February. And we'll never find out because they lost. Yeah. And next year it's on Valentine's Day. Yeah, what happened with that? Why is it so late next year? I don't know why I got moved up. Well, the talk was that that wouldn't happen until they added an 18th game,

which is going to happen soon. So the Sunday must be February 8th next year and they... No, like, I don't understand why they did that. The 7th and the 14th Sunday, both Sundays. president's days. So is it day after? Is that what it is? Hmm. Why'd they do that? I don't know. Odds for next year. Seahawks plus 750 are our favorites. Rams 8 to 1. This is on Fandle. Ravens 12 to 1. I'll book that bet.

Bill's 12 to 1. Packers 13. Chargers 15. Eagles 15. Lions 16. Chiefs 16. Patriots 17 to 1. You're insulted by that. You're insulted. No, it's the Super Bowl curse is a real thing now. Really? Yeah, this is, it's not great. I thought you would sever all affiliation to Fandle because they put you 10th. Broncos, Jags, and Texans are all 20 to 1.

Bears are 27. And then if we go to some of the longer shots, Falcons 50 to 1 jumped out to me. The new coach. Giant 75 to 1, if you feel like they could be next. year's out of nowhere team. And then it gets a little crazy. The Panthers seem high to me, 150 to 1 for the Panthers.

They kind of hung with the Rams in the playoffs. That seems high. That's bad. Your team's 30 to 1. That's bad too. You'd add another zero. I'd probably start thinking about it. How about the Raiders are and even in the bottom seven?

No. Oh, yeah, they're 125 to 1. Well, they have the recipe, right? Clint Kubi would be at coming off the Super Bowl. Yeah. Mendoza is the QB. Trade Max Crosby for picks. Improve offensive line.

They have a bunch of money to spend. The difference in the Pats situation and some other ones in the past was they're going to have a bunch of cap space. And they have like the youngest team in the league. And their quarterbacks will be 24 next year. You know, if they spend money, I find it hard to believe they're going to be not a playoff team. They have a first play schedule too. First play schedule is hard. Yeah.

And also, God only knows what happened to Drake May. God only knows. I knew. I knew it. I try to warn you. It's like, this guy sucks. He shouldn't even be in a league. Completed 73% of his passes.

Yeah. Just went out the window. What else do we have to cover? What do we have? Let's see. Because we can go to Parent Corner because I have a doozy this week. Oh, yeah. You said you had a good one.

Just in general, I'm going to say, I think there's too much time now between the conference game and the Super Bowl. And I know you can't make it 10 days. You're not going to make the Super Bowl on Wednesday, but it deserves more than a week. But in this day and age, just getting social media just bombarding you, every angle, every trend, every prop is debated through exhaustion by like the first Monday, you know, the second Monday or whatever. I mean, you know, your team's in the Super Bowl and you still found. 29 hours to dissect the hawks jazz trade involving like the fourth best ball brother. I know. The NBA counter program of the trade deadline led to two podcasts.

Yeah, they should, that should be next week. Well, you know what's going to happen. When it goes to an 18 game schedule, they're going to get rid of that week between the games. So we'll go from right from the Super Bowl and we'll be at the location by Tuesday and we'll be ready to go. Because it just ends up, you know, you get some domestic violence cases in there and you get like a terrible Pro Bowl with off even worse ratings. It just ends up being negative stuff for the league.

Media Day is kind of stupid too now. Yeah, Media Day was on a Monday. Yeah, and then did the NFL honors thing. Right. Which I don't know, I didn't pronounce the winners names. Did the, uh, yeah, it does feel like it felt like forever since the championship thing. So we used to do this where it would go right to the next thing. Yeah.

I remember that. Super Bowl 36, I think the next, no, maybe that was 9-11 related. Was that why I got delayed? There was a few times when they had to move it back. It was one week for a little bit. Because the past one in Pittsburgh, and we were like in New Orleans right afterwards, ready to roll. All right.

That's it, man. I'm sorry. I think that's, uh, let's do Parent Corner. Go ahead. It's a lot of look forward to it. All right. I got a couple. First of all, I'm, you know, my middle guy, Jack Romo turned 18, and we're driving a dinner.

It's me, him and my father, Melissa and the other kid was in the other car. Way to take two cars. So he's with me and my 85-year-old father, and we're talking about the game. And for some reason, he calls them the Patriots. He's always called them the Patriots. It's very weird. It's not a New York accent. It's on a New York thing.

He's like, yeah, the Patriots, they have a bunch of criminals. And I'm like, here we go. Like, I want to agree with them for your purposes, but not this. He's like, who's the one, you know, they moved the trial, whatever, like, whatever. I'm like, Stefan Diggs. He says, he says, Jigs? I was like, no, no, no, no, it's not Jigs. I was like, yeah, no, I didn't say Jigs.

Diggs. He's like, no, no, it's not Jigs. It's not saying Jig. It ended up being like the worst, most infuriating round of who's on first. I look back at Jack. I was like, I know it's your birthday. But I think we'd all benefit if I just drove us into a ditch right now. but I didn't.

So whether it's jigs or digs, we've got to look into that. But the only other thing I'll say is no more picture day for sports. I might have even used it as at a parent corner topic 10 years ago, but now I really mean it. It's not that important to get these kids in uniforms, Harrison's basketball team,

and drive them to wait in line with other teams when this could easily be done right before a game. You know, it's obviously money grab. We have digital photo. We have digital photos and cameras, and we could do this right away. We all have nice high-tech cameras on our phones. You take a picture, you send it out. Grandma and Grandpa either don't need the wallet photos anymore because they don't have wallets

or they're at the games taking pictures or they're dead. I don't know what it is, but we don't need it. It's a waste of time and money. He didn't even have a game that day. So it was pointless, a costume party. Oh, I hate when they do that. That is an official money grab. Yeah, it's its own debt.

Yeah. It's not even in the where the thing. It's like Jackson R is here, but Jackson W isn't, but we could Photoshop him in. I was like, well, as soon as you're talking about photoshopping, this is pointless. So let's stop. You know what you can do before the first game, just put all the kids next to each other in front of something and take a picture. And that's the team picture. No one's sweating.

It's good. You need some fancy photographer. Thank you. All right. I'm excited. A giant money grab. There you go. Went to see my mom last week.

And I was with my mom. wife and my mom, of course, there was some wine and some cheese, which I was not having because I think I had a podcast later, but they were. And my mom said, you know those, those cars that have the breathalizers when you get in the car to make sure you haven't drank too much? I'm like, oh boy, here we go. Okay. Yeah, we know those cars. She's like, do they have those for computers? And we're like, what do you mean? And she's like, well, you know, at night, sometimes if, you know, if I've had some wine,

like I've noticed I've made some orders that maybe I, you know, I probably the next day would regret. And we were like, like what? And she said, well, one night I was up and I bought her and Carrie do French sometimes. Like they talk my wife and her. They talk French. I was like, I'm going to buy some French. They barely know how to talk French. She's like, I was buy some French flashcards so we could have fun.

And what came was this deck of cards that was in French. And it was like $50. Right. She thought she bought one thing and it was another thing. So I was like, all right. Yeah, yeah, maybe, you know, maybe mark it down to it. And then she's like, well, there was another one that I don't really remember. I don't really remember doing this, but it showed up and I didn't know what it was.

Oh, no. And. Patriots DVD They're drink sticks with my face on it Wait, tilt it a little more Hold on That drink sticks with my face on it That for some reason she decided to make

I'm going to open these now Take it out of the back She made them Oh she had them Yeah, she made them She photoshopped Photoshop my picture And there's just multiple

things of drinksticks with my face on it that came in the mail and she didn't totally remember doing it. And that was why she was asking if maybe there should be a breathalizer for her computer. So of course I took the drink sticks and now we have drink sticks of my face that are just the most insane things I've ever seen. I don't know, I don't even know what the process was that led to her thinking this was the thing anyone would want. Well, see, it's good. You take the good with the bad. You lost the Super Bowl, but you got this.

This is nice. This is a picture day I can get behind. This is nice. We all had our drink sticks. We got together. So we lost the Super Bowl. I kind of like this angle more. But yeah, it's both sided too.

So in case it's not just facing one side. It's facing the other side too. How much did you spend? Unclear, but it might have, it seems like it wasn't, I mean, there's two bags of them. Yeah. You got to give some of those away. Have a trivia context.

Should I put them on eBay? Give one to the best. Bill Simmons' face drink sticks? Put best Boston sports host take most over the top. You'll give him a Bill Simmons drinkstick. Well. So questions that remain are, how did she make this and where did it come from? Right.

And do they have breathalizers for computers? We talked about that, right? When you put your passcode in and you just have to blow in to make sure. Yeah, it's interesting. Because my son is doing this thing. He put this app called BrainRot on his computer. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sorry, his iPad and his phone.

And it monitors, and it's been great for him. He's like, this has been so good for me. I'm never on TikTok anymore. Like I set my settings. It does let me go. It's good. So we do have stuff. Yeah, I think it would have to be a separate app.

I don't think Amazon gives a crap. if you're comatose when you're making. Amazon's probably trying to encourage my mother. Yeah, they're probably like giving her extra points. Drink up, lady. We got a lot of stuff for you. Yeah. So next time you come over and we have drinks,

I'm going to give you a Bill Simmons drink stick. I might jump in the car right after you'd sign off. That's great. I should put like three on eBay and see if I can get like $20. Maybe make the money back. I think you will. Yeah, give it to charity. Yeah, I mean, we talked about that with Fandle,

like people making. stupid bets late at night. You made a lot of pay. You were in Boston. You made a lot of Patriots. Oh, yeah. I had too much of a nest egg from Brable winning coach of the year and stuff. So I ended up doing a lot of Super Bowl. I did do, um, the one bet I was excited about was, um, Hornets playing. Yeah. With Hornets to make the playoffs. You could parlay those together. You can? Plus. Really? Yeah. And it was plus 164. So that was like my biggest one. Yeah. And now that's down. That went. down a bunch because basically they're if they're going to make the playoffs they're probably

going to do it as a seven or eight seed so they would have to win the seven eight game yeah you know you know you wanted we were going to do some uh props last week but yeah our cousin jimmy went long with the billy's penis stories but uh he showed you his i like i like the hornets to make the playoffs went way down right it was like plus 180 now it's a minus um i like the piston 60 plus wins and that's still almost three to one. Let me look what it is now. It was three to one. It was three to one when I was going to do this last week.

And now it's plus 230. It's still plus 230. They have to play like 650 ball. I think they have six games left or five games left against the nets and wizards. They're damn good. Wow. Obviously. One of the other ones I did.

One of the other ones I did was. was Nuggets, Celtics, and Cavs, all to win 50 plus games. That was basically even. And then did the Dark Horse Charlotte Division bet with San Antonio and the Celtics, which was like 15 to 1. But the one I really went in on was that Charlotte bet. Because I think, as I've been saying for multiple weeks, though, I think Charlotte's legitimately good.

Like, I don't think it's a fluke. I think they're a legitimately good East team. Not like a contender, but they're an above 500 team now. What was the stat? Yeah. What? Well, no, they, and they're during this nine-game win streak, they didn't have anyone over 28 years old touch the ball or score or something.

Yeah. It's kind of phenomenal what they're doing. But they're still, are they still four games under 500? Like, how would they still? I feel like they've been willing forever. I think they're 200 now. Are they? Their regular season win total now is, is it over?

Yeah, 42 and a half now. You know, one thing I know. They're 25 and 28. I can't believe they're not at 500 yet. I know they've been winning for three straight weeks. One thing I noticed, I do think they trade deadline because I went to Celtics heat on Friday night. And the Celtics came back from 22. But losing Simons was meaningful to them because they always had two competent guards out at all times.

And then all of a sudden now he's gone. They're trying to figure out Vucevich how to work him in. And it just kind of threw off the team a little bit. Miami kind of sucked in the second half. They came back in one. And the Celtics looked terrible against the Knicks tonight. or today and got killed by them. But I do think that week after the trade deadline,

I think we kind of forget that that does fuck up good teams sometimes. It just tilts the balance and you got to figure out how to work the new guy in while making up for what happened. Whereas I thought Alvarado for the Knicks, like he fit in right away because he's a bench guy. Yeah. There's also when, when the calves, I think the calves played the clippers the day after they made that trade, right?

The hard trade. It's like, oh, shit. Well, Hardin's not going to play. Clippers don't have, we know, all right. Isn't that a plan? Oh, it didn't matter. The Clippers said, okay, they're just going to get killed anyway. Right.

Well, then the Clippers somehow beat Minnesota today. Yeah, well, they don't say somehow. It's because we bet Minnesota. They know. We put some futures on Minnesota, but that's another example. They brought in the new guy, the Sanu, and looked like crap. So anyway, yeah, they're out of the NBA stuff, because this is really all we have at this point.

Charlotte was the one that jumped out to me. And then trying to figure out who's not going to be one of the 10ies playoff teams feels like there's some opportunity there too. Well, the Bulls, yeah, I mean, it typically was the same. Wasn't it heat, hawks, bulls, they must have made four of the last five plans.

Yeah. Those three. So I don't know, maybe the Bulls are on the outs. The Bucks really screwed everything up for us. The Bulls are the 11 now, and Milwaukee is also the 11. Milwaukee did the Camp Thomas Hail Mary signing today. So that was, that was whatever. You love it. You're fine. You're good with this.

You could just move on. You, you know, you get to travel. You interview elderly sports icons. You have Johnny Pesky at Colgate University next week. You're going to be fine. So we went, so I went to Jack Owen House. We went to Celtics Friday. We drive to Holy Cross where I went to college. Three of us went. We drive on Saturday. It's a blizzard. Yeah. And Jack goes in a truck. Kudos to him for having stick shift, by the way. So I was really proud of him. We're in a truck on the mass pike. It's barely paved. We're like, oh, God. Get to, get to Holy Cross. It's freezing. There's wind because there's always wind because it's on a hill. The wind's like whipping the snow in our faces. And we're like, we're back, baby. Holy Cross, this is, you know, you did this too,

because you were in college, upstate New York. Like, you're in there for December, January, February, it's awful. No snow days. Yeah. And then like April, there's spring. weekend and you're like, this is great. But it's like two weeks. Three months you're there where it's terrible. But it was great to be back. It was great to see everybody. And it was just House and I are walking down from the game after. Because we used to do this walk when we played basketball at the time. We're walking down and it's like 30 degree winds. We're almost falling. The wind, the snow's hitting us. And we're like, this is how many times that we make this walk? Like 100. But did anything else surprise you? The energy was it the same as you like you

remember when you were in college? Well, they have new buildings. There were two new buildings. There's this huge performance center now where there was a parking lot. So stuff like that are like, oh my God. The school, Holy Cross is probably 500 people bigger than it was when we were there. But yeah, you notice like the new stuff. Like they always add there's like a new dorm or a new building. You're like, yeah, wow, there's two new buildings.

Like, yeah, thanks, Mr. Simmons. You paid for them. I did? I don't even remember that. Well, we weren't thinking like these kids, like compared to some of the stuff we had, like they have this awesome campus center. You know, there's like a pub and there's like there's like a coffee place where they make like lattes.

We're like, oh my God, we would have loved that. Yeah. But, you know, we're in the late 80s, early 90s. So it's a million years ago. We're never getting it. Yeah. We met Jalen Coker. He sat with us, the Carolina guy.

Oh, yeah. Nice. Yeah, he was still mad about the Rams loss. He felt like they could have beaten them. See? felt like they were like right there but he's right we thought that way too right so maybe that's the team what else do we got that's it's it this is that you're saddest day of the season although it's not that sad this time because yeah i know it helped out i want some money you know you know you and hens like

made this a nice win for me but uh listen we've got we've got the ringer gambling show that's not going away Spotify youtube vandal sports network um you know i'll be coming down probably to monday you're going to be on ringer gambling on Monday Wednesday, Friday. Monday Wednesday, Friday. During the off football season. Yeah, lots to talk about. We got it. Baseball is coming.

We got March madness coming. There's golf is starting to heat up. Yeah. NBA, obviously. Women's College. You throw yourself into that. Right. Yeah.

There's some, what's the next tennis tournament? You'll probably go face first. I don't know what's next. Yeah, we'll get, I mean, I lost. The French at some point. I lost with Matsuyama. We're going to have some fun. I'm going to post pictures of breasts online.

And, you know, it will do it all. Hockey, you'll do some hockey. Oh, we have Olympics. Yeah. That was one of the bets I lost, one of my Fandole bets when I was in Boston. I lost, what did you bet? Patriots with the USA women's hockey team to win the gold. The Pats money line with that was 4 to 1.

I'm like, I'm in. It's the All-Patriot Parlay. Patriots didn't hold up their end. but I'm definitely better into hockey. It doesn't make sense to the futures because it's going to be USA versus Canada probably in both games. So you just wait until the final game.

Well, I mean, of course, I did something stupid with Canada and US to win their groups. And it's not flattering odds at all. It's like minus 240. But I did it. I did it for a while here for a lot. Oh, my God.

I did. I was watching the skiing on the plane back yesterday. Yeah. And they have these, I mean, no surprise, but they had these awesome drone cameras now that go with the skier. And I was, like, riveted. I thought, I thought it was awesome.

Compared to what we grew up with when we were watching the Winter Olympics in 1976 and Square TV and you can barely see anything. But it was really cool to watch. And that was a bummer to wake up to the Lindsey Vaughn news. Like, I couldn't. We talked about it a lot on the Ringer Gambling show. And they're like, well, it's a torn ACL. House is like, you could still, I was like, well, you could still what?

You could 85 miles an hour downhill? It's like, yeah, but the damage is done. I was like, I got to see this. This is crazy. And then unfortunately it has nothing to do with her leg. Yeah. It's some kind of like the pole hit the butt, whatever. So, I mean, maybe.

That's probably had something. Yeah, maybe she's thinking of other things and stuff. But it sucks. That's an incredible feat either way. I like the Winter Olympics. Yeah. So we'll have that. All right.

We're good. We're going to be all right. All right. Well, you'll come on at some point this spring, right? We'll talk about something. Let's do it. March madness. Lots going on.

I don't know. I didn't like how happy you were tonight, but I'll forgive you. I had to do it. I know the prospects of a lot of people. I got called out by a lot of people. I got a called out. Like, you have to step up for America. I don't know if I did the job, but.

Well, he's still not maybe, but there is now a regular season versus playoffs thing. Like he turns into Drake maybe in the playoffs. Like that door is open for all that stuff now. That's fine. And then give him an MVP every year, if this is how he's going to behave in the postseason. I like it. I really like the Seattle fans. So if we were going to get our ass kicked by a team,

that would probably have been one of my number one picks. Yeah. There's a lot worse teams that this could have happened to. No doubt. All right. Hey, thanks to Pepsi for sponsoring our live show here. Stop. Just roll through it.

I mean, you know, go ahead. Go ahead. Thank you, Pepsi. And also I wanted to mention Wednesday night, I'm doing a live show at the Wiltern in Los Angeles, but just for the people who are going to this, make sure you know the movie Heat is all I'm going to say. Heat's going to be prominently involved with the Wednesday night pod.

But we have, and then we have new rewatchables coming tomorrow, which is going to be Ace Ventura. So that's all I have going. Thanks to Gahau. Thanks to Eduardo. Thanks to Jack Wilson. Because we did it.

Next year will be our 20th year of Guestalines. That's ridiculous. I think we have to do something special for this. What do you mean? guess the line's 20. I feel like we at least need a graphic or something. Well, Ringer 107 didn't work great. I feel like when we attach numbers to us.

Going back and we're going, you know what I was thinking with Ringer 107 though? I think we have to move the picks closer to Sunday. Maybe you do one pick on your shows during the week, but then Sunday I'd like to time it a little closer so that it'd actually be better picks. Don't you think? Because I feel like we do a little better as we get closer to the actual games.

I think you're right. Trying to guess it's 72 hours for the game. So our bets are better because it's like right on the spot. Well, the thing we always talk about is you really have a sense for what's too sexy of a pick. Yes. And you don't have that sense on a Wednesday or a Thursday. But by Sunday you're like, that team is now a stay away. Everybody loves them.

Yep. But everybody lived the Seahawks today. I was going to say that. Other than Drake, everybody, everybody loves Seattle. I asked a source at Fandole what would be the ultimate result for them. And they said it would be C-Hawks. Seahawks by three. Yeah.

It's the dream scenario. Yeah. And then everything else was whatever. But I think they probably- No part of that. He could have cut it to 16, but no. No. It wasn't that.

All right, Cuss. Great job by you this season. Good job by you overall. And the special last one. Good job by you. Good job by you, buddy. Bye everybody on Netflix. Must be 21 plus in President Select States for Kansas

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