The Bill Simmons Podcast - Streaking Saints, Weekend at Bowlesies, LeBron on Auto-Pilot, and Week 10 Lines With Cousin Sal | The Bill Simmons Podcast (Ep. 438)

Episode Date: November 5, 2018

HBO and The Ringer's Bill Simmons calls up Cousin Sal to discuss the Saints defeating the Rams, the Patriots taking care of the Packers, and coaches who may be on their way out, before guessing the NF...L lines for Week 10. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:32 doing it a little later than usual. The Pats-Packers game ran a little bit long. I can't say it was the most exciting game I've ever watched, and I can't believe Cordero Patterson was playing running back and the Pats doing Edelman passes and flea flickers. They really brought the kitchen sink out. More importantly, Sal, the three big tease teams, they all covered. It's starting to feel magical.
Starting point is 00:02:56 I'm starting to get those 2004 flashbacks, Sal. Chiefs, Bears, Patriots. Let's bang them out, man, every week. Let's keep doing this. We got this. Everybody. Well, the Rams, I guess, covered on a teaser too, right? Barely?
Starting point is 00:03:12 Did they? Yeah. I find that, yeah, they covered the teaser, but I finally stayed away from them. But more importantly, these high lines with the Bears were minus 10 in Buffalo. And you were a little, you were a tiny bit worried about that one. I was not worried
Starting point is 00:03:26 because it was Nathan Peterman going against the Bears defense. I felt comfortable. You were scared though. Something scared you. Well, you always ask, and we always ask each other, all right, which one screws me here out of these three?
Starting point is 00:03:36 So I picked one. I don't know why. I just figured, I don't know. And I think because the Bills have killed me so many times before, and I was on so heavy with that Vikings game, which is looking like the biggest screw job game of the century, right? The Bills going to Minnesota and winning by however many touchdowns,
Starting point is 00:03:53 three touchdowns. Yeah, it's a documentary. It's a 30 for 30 documentary at some point, I think. But yeah, so I saw some stat. I'm going to look this up to make sure I'm right. But I think in the last six games, the Bills are averaging seven points a game. Is that possible? Maybe it's a little more than that.
Starting point is 00:04:12 They did end up on an offensive touchdown this week, right? Oh, did they? Not one last week. I think so. I think Peterman snuck one in or something. Well, this goes. Our friend Brad declared him the worst quarterback, worst starting quarterback of all time. He says he has enough starts now that he could be considered amongst the worst.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Well, that's high praise for Brad. Yeah. He doesn't dabble in hyperbole either. He does his research. Yeah. So Buffalo beats Minnesota 27 to six in week three and ruined every elimination pool all the teases it's just complete chaos
Starting point is 00:04:49 it's probably the craziest gambling result not just of this year but in a couple years after that 0 points 13 points 5 points 6 points 9 points unbelievable so they have 25, 30 points, five points, six points, nine points.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Unbelievable. So they have, that's 25, 30, 45 points in six weeks. And I don't even know what Chicago did to win that game. I know they had two defensive touchdowns. Trubisky went for like a buck 35. He wasn't great. It didn't really add up. Well, we always said, Sal Sal November is when we find out
Starting point is 00:05:26 who's got what big winner today big winner of the weekend the Saints of New Orleans now firmly entrenched in the old NFC driver's seat now the Rams have to actually beat them by one
Starting point is 00:05:40 to get to get the NFC title game but I think there are real signs of possible concern with the Rams because of their defense. And you saw with that trade for Fowler that they did last week. They gave up a third rounder for a guy who mispracticed last week
Starting point is 00:05:56 and clearly was a little bit of a head case. But they aren't getting enough of a push with their front seven except for Aaron Donald. And it does seem like you can throw on them if you have even a little bit of time. They got dismantled by the Saints today. What did you see? I mean, they needed to pressure Breeze. That was the only way they were going to win that game, and they didn't do it at all. They had no sacks. I think the Saints punted once. Marcus Peters is looking like a bad free agent signing. I mean, that guy screws up every time I look at him.
Starting point is 00:06:28 He's not ready for the play. He's whiffing on passes. And they've definitely missed Aqib Talib back there. But it really looked like it wasn't about Gurley. It was about Kamara. The guy was running downhill the whole game. The Saints offense did just about whatever they wanted with him. And it wasn't close.
Starting point is 00:06:43 I like the Rams going in. I was way off on that. I i like the rams going in i was i was way off on that i really like the saints but was afraid to bet that one yeah i uh i i like the steelers that one hit i like the falcons that one hit and i really like the seahawks and you like the seahawks too right no no oh you like the chargers yeah i like the chargers yeah i like that i will say this though for the rams fans or specifically for uh todd girley fans this is a big win because now he has to play weeks 15 and 16 or 16 and 17 whereas if they were two games up on the saints that guy sits for a while right a big interest to our stupid fantasy league. Well, so yeah, we got basically seven weeks left,
Starting point is 00:07:28 and the Rams and Saints are just going to be eyeballing each other the rest of the way. Meanwhile, Panthers sitting there at 6-2. Weird, right? Would you have guessed they were 6-2? Pretty good. No. I mean, they seem like the team that could never put together
Starting point is 00:07:43 two, three wins together in a row but mccaffrey goes for like 150 every game they take care of business newton kind of has the same stats right like 250 and 30 40 yards rushing that game wasn't as close as the final score either i think they were up yeah they up 35 7 or something like that 35 7 the the bucks did a really weird thing where they fake punted from their own 30 down 28-7. They did the surprise fake punt. That was a disaster. And yet you couldn't turn that game off because that's what Fitzmagic is there for,
Starting point is 00:08:16 to erase a 28-point deficit and ruin your tees or whatever you had in. I feel like there's some separation finally with the top half of the league, you look at the AFC Casey's eight and one Pat seven and two chargers, six and two Steelers, five and two. And then you have the Texans at six and three since he five and three, but I think that's a pretty steep drop off to those two teams. I feel like there's four good teams in the AFC and I,
Starting point is 00:08:44 I'm hesitant to even call the Steelers that good, but let's throw them in there anyway. No, I think that we have to give the Steelers a little more credit. They're missing their best running back, theoretically, before the season. Theoretically. They get through the halfway point with two losses. That's pretty good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:58 I mean, he's doing a good job offensively. I think he hit like seven receivers today. Connor is spectacular. What did he go for? 107 today on the ground? They could franchise Le'Veon Bell for less money next year. This is going to be very interesting to see how this ends up. I made them
Starting point is 00:09:16 one of my best bets this week, the Steelers. It was the first time I'd kind of bought in. Here are their wins. They beat Tampa by three, killed the Falcons, beat the Bengals by a touchdown, beat the Browns, beat the Ravens. So they still have the Panthers at home. They have a weird at Denver game. They have the Chargers at home.
Starting point is 00:09:42 They have the Patriots at home. And then they have the Saints in New Orleans week 16. So they basically have their four toughest games they haven't played yet. Right? Yeah. That's a fun game. Chargers at home could be a preview of a first round game, right? Wild card weekend?
Starting point is 00:09:57 Yeah. Well, they played KC in week two. I shouldn't say that. So four of their five toughest games of the year they haven't had yet. And all those will be... You know, Roethlisberger did the old chase down sack where he landed on his shoulder. It looked like broken
Starting point is 00:10:11 collarbone, right? Yeah, I don't know. I looked up and he was in the next play or two plays later. One day he completed a big pass. Yeah, I was at the Ringer NFL Slack and we were like, wow, was that a broken collarbone, separated shoulder? And then it's like, hey, he's back in. He just threw a 10-yarder. And we were like, wow, was that a broken collarbone separated shoulder? And then it's like,
Starting point is 00:10:26 Hey, he's back in. He just threw a 10 yarder. So that's what he does. Yeah. So I have four teams in the AFC and then I think it's a drop. And he's your fourth. The,
Starting point is 00:10:37 uh, the paths, the chiefs, the chargers, Steelers. Oh, the chargers. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Yeah. I don't trust the Texans. I thought a lot of people putting them in there. I don't know what they were. So I don't know, O'Brien, how lucky he is to win some of these games. He beat the Colts by a slim margin, the Cowboys, the Bills, the Broncos today. And like their upcoming schedule is so easy. They have the Skins, the Titans, the Browns, the Colts again, and the Jets.. They could win 11 games, but I don't think they're very good. Well, their sixth wins, they barely beat the Colts, and the Colts were pretty banged up for that game.
Starting point is 00:11:11 They barely beat your Clapper, the Clappers. Beat the Bills by seven. Bills was close, yeah. Handled the Jags, handled the Dolphins, and they lose today if the Broncos guy makes the field goal. And then why did they do that? I mean, I know it's a mile high and like 51 yards is like 41 yards, but why settle for that?
Starting point is 00:11:30 Just get them to the, like, get it to like a 45-yard field goal. What goes on anymore with these coaches setting up like that? I've never liked that. And I would like to add, actually, hold this thought about the fired coaches, because Vance Joseph, press pause on Vance Joseph for four minutes. Just NFC, Rams 8-1, Saints 7-1, Panthers 6-2, Bears 5-3, Vikings 5-3, Redskins 5-3, Falcons 4-4, Seattle 4-4, Phillyilly four and four Packers three four and one it's a lot more complicated so a lot I don't know what six six seeds gonna be interesting I think
Starting point is 00:12:14 you don't think let's who's the guaranteed fifth now well the uh Carolina or New Orleans whoever wins that debate whoever loses is gonna be fifth be fifth, right? Well, so you figure Rams, Saints, Panthers, I would say definitely. Somebody has to come from the NFC East, whether it's the Redskins or the Eagles or the Cowboys. Not necessarily. Oh, yeah, no, you're right. I think that's one spot. And then somebody's got to come from the NFC North.
Starting point is 00:12:45 And that's either Minnesota or Chicago. And one NFC South wildcard, right? And the Falcons keep going. I like what I saw from the Falcons today. And Julio finally scored. Yeah, Julio scored. That was exciting. But all right, so if you had to guess,
Starting point is 00:13:03 all the 500 or below teams that we have right now weirdly there is no 500 team in the AFC which I have no explanation for at all but no 500 teams yeah so I'll go 500 or below which includes the 4 and 5 Ravens
Starting point is 00:13:20 the 3 and 4 Titans the 3 and 5 Jags the 3 and 5 Colts 4 and 4 I feel like in previous the three and four Titans, the three and five Jags, the three and five Colts. I feel like in previous years, we would have kicked one of these teams out by now. I don't think we've kicked anyone out. Well, I think we should do that right now. Four and four Falcons, four and four Seahawks,
Starting point is 00:13:34 four and four Eagles, three four and one Packers, three and four Cowboys. I'm not going to count the lines. Out of all those teams, you can't kick any of those teams out, I don't think. But out of all those teams I mentioned, who is the most likely to go on a second half run? Because we're here.
Starting point is 00:13:50 This is second half run time right now. This is when it starts. So who would you pick? I guess Atlanta because I was looking at their schedule and it's because I was about to bet against them to make the playoffs. And I'm like, nah, they have a decent run the rest of the way, even though they are in the South. Do you have their schedule up there?
Starting point is 00:14:06 I'm going to call it up right now. When I used to write my Friday column before I retired from writing, I used to love week nine. I used to love to try to figure out who the second half team was because we would have one or two every year. And a lot of times it would be one in each conference, but it would be a team that was like three and four heading into week nine
Starting point is 00:14:27 because they'd already had a bye, or four and four, or even three and five. And then they would just get hot. And it happens all the time. So you could say it happened with the Falcons, but they've really you know, they were one and four heading into week six. And since then
Starting point is 00:14:43 they beat Tampa, they beat the Giants, they beat the Redskins. They still. And since then they beat Tampa, they beat the giants, they beat the Redskins. They still don't have a good, they have the Browns. They're home for the Cowboys. Yeah. At the saints is probably a loss then home for the Ravens and at the Packers then home for the Cardinals and then the Panthers and bucks. So there's probably at least four wins in there, right?
Starting point is 00:15:03 Yeah. And you think, so their best win so far, they beat Carolina in week two. They need to win six of the next eight. So they can only have two losses. If they lose at New Orleans
Starting point is 00:15:18 and they lose one of at Green Bay or at Carolina, that gets them the 10 wins, but I got to be honest, I don't know if 10 wins makes it. That Green Bay game is probably an elimination game. When is that? Is that like in four weeks or something?
Starting point is 00:15:32 Yeah. No. Yeah, December 9th. Do you like what you've seen from Green Bay? I don't know. I just, you know, it sounds cliche, like you can never count Rodgers out, but that does seem to, I mean, he does make these guys. It doesn't really matter who's with them.
Starting point is 00:15:49 The St. Brown and who is it? Valdez Scantling. Yeah. These guys come up with great catches and they could, for that reason, they're, they're in every game. Now they, they, they're going to play at a level of competition. They're going to beat the 49ers without this miracle quarterback a few weeks ago by a few points they're probably going to do the same against
Starting point is 00:16:08 the dolphins this week but i don't know you what you thought that was a pushover team tonight i just don't think they're very good no i don't uh i don't think their defense is very good it's definitely their secondary is a little shaky um i don't know i just don't think their defense is very good. It's definitely their secondary is a little shaky. I don't know. I just don't see it. Brady never, ever gets hit, but it did seem like he had a little bit of, he had to do a little bit of maneuvering tonight more than previous weeks. Yeah, but you know, that, I mean, that happened last week too against Buffalo.
Starting point is 00:16:42 And my hope last week was that, oh, well, you know, they're just kind of looking ahead to next week. But I'm not sure the Patriots are very good. I mean, they're certainly not until Sonny Michel comes back and they don't have a wide receiver at running back. It's going to be very hard to judge them. But, you know, Gronk is the transcendent tight end of the last 15 years. And as you know, because you have him on your fantasy team.
Starting point is 00:17:09 He's on my bench along with Leonard Fournette. Doing great. They're getting along really well. They're hanging out. They're going on vacations together. Yeah, it's just, there's not a lot of firepower in this Pats team. And the fact that they're seven and two is kind of crazy. They have a plus 68 point differential right now.
Starting point is 00:17:27 I don't understand it. They're five and oh at home. They are, there's only three, actually there's four undefeated teams at home this season right now. Can you guess the four? They're one of them? The Pats are one. I'll get, so there's three others.
Starting point is 00:17:44 All right. Let me guess. The Panthers are one. So there's three others. All right. Let me guess. The Panthers. Yep. Five and O. Okay. The Chiefs haven't lost at home. That's true.
Starting point is 00:17:57 And there's one more? Actually, there's five. I just realized there was a fifth one. Well, the Rams haven't lost at home. Rams. And let's see. And then your Dallas Cowboys, three and O at home. That's five. I just realized Well, the Rams haven't lost at home. Rams. And then your Dallas Cowboys 3-0 at home.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Unbelievable. The clapper. That's good. You just jinxed it. You just jinxed the whole thing. That's good. Clap attack. And I was thinking about this. I was thinking about this. Last Sunday night, you get to celebrate. We record the podcast minutes after the Red Sox won the World Series. We do the same this week after the Patriots beat the Packers.
Starting point is 00:18:27 And now next Sunday, we're going to do it after the Eagles beat the Cowboys. This is going to work out great for me. The timing is so good. Back to the fire. I'm pressing the pause button, the fired coach conversation. Yeah. Kind of felt like that might have been John Harbaugh's last game. I wouldn't be shocked if people are
Starting point is 00:18:47 listening to this on Monday and he's gone. That team is not as crisp as some of the other Ravens teams. Flacco looks horrible. I don't know what the hell they're doing with this Lamar Jackson thing. It's like the complete opposite of
Starting point is 00:19:03 what the Saints do when they bring in their backup quarterback. And it actually makes sense. They put thought into it. Oh, yeah, that Hill, number seven. Yeah, Hill's really exciting. The Ravens bring in Jackson. It's like every time, it's awful.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Flacco, I've been trying to get the Ringer video team to do Flacco PI as a fake TV credit thing for like four weeks. Nobody's biting. But that's really their offense is he just steps back. If nobody tips the ball at the line, he just heaves it downfield and tries to get it past interference basically. I just don't think that team looks like they're on the same page. So that's one candidate. And I think Vance Joseph with Denver,
Starting point is 00:19:41 he's clearly not going to be the coach next year. That team is woefully coached. Woeful. As we saw today with the field goal thing. I don't feel like they're a 3-6 team. I think probably a 4-5 team. Maybe even a 5-4 team with the right coach. But I think those would be the two candidates. And the other one, the third one would be Dirk Cutter.
Starting point is 00:20:05 What a mess that team is. At some point, he's going to get... Oh, her coach fired? Yeah. Yeah. He's going to get canned at some point. So those would be my three. Am I missing anyone? Maybe Todd Bowles. I don't know what they're thinking with him maybe at this point, but... I didn't include him because I thought he was dead. He's not dead?
Starting point is 00:20:22 I thought they just propped his corpse up during the games. He's alive? He's still around. Todd Bowles is alive? Sam Dahl almost hit him with a pass today and killed him. Actually, in the second quarter, I thought I saw him blink. Not positive.
Starting point is 00:20:37 He's like the new Jim Caldwell. They just cut to him, and he's got the same look on his face as Xavier Sam's. Throw another pick. They cut to Todd Bowles. Just complete nothing. Just absence of emotion. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Well, Rob Anderson and Sam Adams took over the clubhouse today. They were really mad. So we're probably going to hear more about the Jets. Wait, what happened? They flipped out and said, this isn't going to happen. We're not having a rebuilding year every year. It seemed like a lot of it was directed at Bowles. But I don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:07 There's another one I say might be a year premature, but how about Mike McCarthy? How many passes does he get? A classic example of how winning a Super Bowl can save your job for... Buys you another decade, yeah. Yeah, Brian Billick, I don't remember how many more years
Starting point is 00:21:25 he lasted after he won the Ravens Super Bowl but it felt a little it felt a little lush for what for what should happen but yeah
Starting point is 00:21:34 I mean you know you always hear this stuff it's secondhand and whispers but it's always like well there's no love lost
Starting point is 00:21:42 between Rodgers and McCarthy well I'm sure Rodgers are driving to the airport. And it's like, how many years in a row can we hear that Rodgers doesn't like Mike McCarthy? And at some point, it's his team. I feel that way about Jason Garrett. He's treated as a coach who won the Super Bowl six years ago. Doesn't get that feeling. He gets that immediate pass every game.
Starting point is 00:22:03 How many playoff games has he won? Like two? He's got Jerry Jones convinced that he's Jimmy Johnson or something. I don't know. Well, I'll tell you one thing, Sal. He is not Jimmy Johnson. He's not Jimmy Johnson. Hey, how's your MeUndies collection going?
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Starting point is 00:23:34 And I don't care what anyone says about that. My wife won't think that's weird at all. Speaking of comfortable experiences, I drove a lot of driving this weekend for my daughter's soccer. Mm-hmm. is I drove a lot of driving this weekend for my daughter's soccer. We had a game because Stoner, you were with my friend, Rob Stone, who's now your friend, I guess. You're doing the college football on Fox. And he FaceTimed me. It was like during a soccer game, so I couldn't pick up. But we drove all the way to Bakersfield for a soccer game this weekend. Have you ever been
Starting point is 00:24:01 to Bakersfield? No, I haven't been that far, but I think it's probably on the docket soon. I'll get into that later. It's over two hours. And on the way back, I decided I didn't want to spend another two hours in the car and was going 105, 110 on the way back. That's not even a parent corner. That's just a bill corner.
Starting point is 00:24:23 But my daughter immediately fell asleep because it was in the morning. And I remember taping that Futures podcast we did for your podcast, Against All Odds With House. And I remember doing it, but I had a busy week, and I couldn't remember all the things we did. So I started listening to it. What an amazing performance by the three of us. It was NBA, yeah?
Starting point is 00:24:44 Yeah. I feel like, you know how people talk about the Godfather and Godfather Part II, and they talk about the cast, and they're just like, wow, Duvall and James Caan and Pacino and De Niro and Brando. Oh my God, that thing was so loaded. That's how I feel about that podcast. It is just us laying out every single thing that's going to happen in the NBA this season. It is amazing.
Starting point is 00:25:07 It's amazing. I'm excited, but I feel like we're only three weeks in, but we're really hitting on everything? We went through the whole Giannis thing. We made the whole case for how Curry could win the MVP. We did the Gordon Hayward thing. I only heard the first 55 minutes, and then my daughter woke up and said, can you turn that off? Then I had to listen to Ariana Grande or whatever the hell she's listening to now.
Starting point is 00:25:28 The Gordon Hayward bet was spectacular by you. That was under, what was it? 15 and a half points per game? No, it was 18 and a half. Oh my God. Yeah. And I went all in. I said, this was the lock of the century. I've never been more confident in a bet, but you know what sucks now? And he's not playing well. He's like a shell of himself, whether it comes back down the road. I don't know. But,
Starting point is 00:25:50 but every time he shoots like subconsciously, I'm like, miss it. And it's not like we bet like a million dollars and I got to like, I got to start. I almost need like a hypnotist to forget. I made the bet. I wish we never made that one,
Starting point is 00:26:02 but now it's like, now we've already clinched it. I think he has like 40 points total. That's what I was going to say. He has a couple of six point games in there. We're good for a while. But you know, Sal, we're very hard on ourselves
Starting point is 00:26:13 about our spotty gambling and just our faults as human beings. And I just want us to celebrate this one time, how great that podcast was. Yeah, everybody go back and listen to that podcast. You can't make any money off it. Now the only, I don't want to talk basketball the whole time,
Starting point is 00:26:26 but what about the Celtics? Are you worried about the Celtics to win the East? It seems like there's... No. They should have beaten Indiana. Seems like they don't want to lose more than a game now. No, it's super early. They're trying to figure out the lineups.
Starting point is 00:26:37 They have too many good players, and Stevens is playing Hayward too much, and it'll all be fine. They're only 6-3. The thing I'm worried about and it's a top goal because the Lakers got killed tonight.
Starting point is 00:26:54 Yeah, without Kawhi, right? He didn't even play, did he? Kawhi did not play. It's Sunday night, 943. I do think it's going to become a storyline at some point. LeBron has put the stamps.com on this season so far. He is so talented that he has the ability to be on cruise control slash doing everything he needs to do without really investing himself.
Starting point is 00:27:23 He's just not into it. You can tell. It's like he doesn't feel a connection to this team. And he's just kind of running up and down the court. And people can say, oh, you're hating on LeBron. I'm not hating on LeBron. I think he's the second best player ever. I just think he's not locked in at all.
Starting point is 00:27:40 I don't know whether it's the coach, but we've seen him do this before when he is completely detached. He's got all these young dudes on the team. He's not trying to, there's no leadership at all. I haven't seen any sort of leadership in any capacity from him. I just don't, I don't get it. I think it's a very, very strange season by him so far. It's almost like he almost has the look of somebody who went to a college that he got talked into the college because he thought like his
Starting point is 00:28:10 other friend was going to the college with him and then that friend backed out and now he's stuck at the college. That's the vibe I'm getting from him. I don't know what you're saying. I think he needs one of two or maybe both of these things to happen to spark him. He needs something like if Luke Walton goes then what do
Starting point is 00:28:25 you think you think he he rebels against that or he's like all right now now now it's gonna look like it's me i need to step it up and or you got you said someone got to him i'm starting to believe that uh you're right and i've asked like guys like chris broussard and people are agreeing with you that lavar ball was silenced okay i a couple of tweets from him and that could, that could light a fire under his ass too. Yeah. We need a LeVar Ball like to, cause Rondo's now taking minutes from his son too.
Starting point is 00:28:54 So it's only a matter of time before the LeVar Nato goes off. But I think very, very strange, very strange season so far. And I don't fully understand it. Are you worried about our under yet or our over? We have them at 48. You concerned yet?
Starting point is 00:29:13 I'm concerned. I'll be honest. Always concerned. I don't feel great about it. I think. Tate says he's going to take the season off at some point. Tate's been saying that since day one, and he might not be wrong. They're 4-6 right now.
Starting point is 00:29:28 So they can only have, with our bet, they can only have 34 losses. So only 28 to go. It's not great. Well, the thing is, he struggled last year with the Cavs. It was a similar thing. They weren't playing defense. It was stupid, but they had 30 easy games on their schedule. Now they
Starting point is 00:29:43 have like 9 or 10, right? Yeah. There was a story about Magic laying into Luke Walton and cursing at him and stuff and I asked Jalen about this to confirm.
Starting point is 00:29:55 I spent a solid year with Magic Johnson and I'm positive that he doesn't drink or swear. Definitely doesn't drink. Definitely doesn't swear. He has no vices other than he,
Starting point is 00:30:08 like the ladies once upon a time, as he's discussed over and over again. I've never, I never heard him swear in a year. And Jalen's the same way. Jalen doesn't swear. And so the story had him cursing at Luke Wall. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:30:22 that doesn't sound like Jalen. It doesn't sound like magic doesn't swear so I thought that was weird so when I read this stuff I don't know what to believe because that had something that specifically I know the dude doesn't swear and the no swearing thing is even
Starting point is 00:30:37 more impressive when you consider that the guy spends two months a year in Italy with Samuel L. Jackson and you would think some of that would just rub off on him coming into September, but I guess it doesn't. Yeah, every summer, you, me, and our cousin Jimmy take endless amounts of delay, and magic goes to Italy with Sam Jackson
Starting point is 00:30:56 and posts Instagram and Twitter photos from it. And every time a new one goes up, we analyze the photo, where they are. I don't know why it brings us so much enjoyment. I always want to know what they talk about after like, you know, when you're with people for nine days in Europe. At some point, you really have to struggle to make conversation unless you're with Adam Carolla, which we went to Italy with Carolla in 2004 and he just talked the whole time. So it was fine. But Magic and Sam, at some point, I just don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:27 What do they talk about? You have any idea? Just being rich? We should put it to a Twitter poll. Yeah. It looks like they have a lot of fun, like a lot of fun every year. They're on a huge yacht. It looks great.
Starting point is 00:31:43 I hope it's us someday, Sal. All right, back to the... Not with these bets, it's not going to be. Back to the football. I made the fatal mistake of trash-talking John Hamm's team. Oh, yeah. I got 16 points. I got 17 points from George Kittle,
Starting point is 00:32:00 and I was super excited about it. There was really no way I was going to lose. Ham gets 32 points from Kareem Hunt, but more importantly, 25 points from the Dolphins D. And I lose by two points because Sam Darnold could not stop throwing interceptions, which brings me to my question.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Are we sure Sam Darnold's going to be good? Uh, I don't, I'm not sure. And I don't know. I, I tend to defend him because my friend Harry from against all odds hates Darnold.
Starting point is 00:32:33 He thinks it was a big mistake drafting him and he's a giant fan. So he has to fight people who say, Barkley was the wrong pick. You guys should have taken Darnold, but that he had like 26 turnovers at USC as the senior year something crazy the last two years um yeah he's good for one or two picks a game like two picks a game and on the road for sure I don't know if he's good I want him to be so as you know I don't watch college football you do I watch the big games like I watched a little of Alabama LSU and
Starting point is 00:33:03 boy what a fun game that was Alabama was was up by like 20 in second quarter. What a great sport. The same team wins every year and kills everybody. Awesome. Sign me up. Well, we see the same thing with your Patriots. I hate that you're just too close to it.
Starting point is 00:33:16 At least we make it exciting. We have three point games and comebacks. Alabama just wins by 20. What's fun about that? So the people at the ringer who I trust and respect were saying, you know, Darnold, he's sloppy, sloppy with the ball. Little like what they were saying with Jameis coming out of college. Darnold has 14 interceptions already.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Yeah. We've only played nine games though. That's a lot going into the year those rookies were all 14.5-15 interceptions right there we talked about on this pod we talked about that as a prop
Starting point is 00:33:54 and you liked it and I talked you out of it because I said it's too easy for a quarterback to get hurt so I apologize no you're right because I had Garofalo over that number too. Not that I thought he'd have a bad year, but you know, he could have like 26 touchdowns and 15 interceptions and yeah, he got hurt, but I did. I took him. I took Donald. I took all the Joshes, everybody over. So you, the ones who didn't get hurt, you're going to win. I think, I think it depends if these
Starting point is 00:34:24 guys get enough starts some of these coaches are weird with the way they're sitting and starting and everything else i wish i had nathan peterman and go back and make that bet nathan peterman brad brad's worst quarterback of all time nathan peterman i've seen him for three weeks so right now on QBR, which a stat I don't fully understand or understand why we need. Yeah. Oh, I had Baker over too. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:34:51 So they have the 32 quarterbacks ranked by QBR. 28th is Baker Mayfield. And I think this might even be before today's games. 28th is Baker Mayfield. 30th is Josh Rosen. 31 is Sam Darnold. And 32 is Josh Allen, which leads me to my cluster theory, which is one of my favorite theories. I think I introduced it last decade. Draft classes, when there's a lot of something, sometimes the entire collection gets overrated.
Starting point is 00:35:21 So it's like, oh, look at all these quarterbacks. Whoa, which one do you like? And there's just a lot, but it doesn't mean any of them are good. And I wonder if that's going to happen. I've been really unimpressed
Starting point is 00:35:32 by Baker, but I think he gets an even bigger pass than Sam Darnold because his coach and his offensive coordinator got fired last week and it was clearly
Starting point is 00:35:41 crazy dysfunctional and it's not like he has a lot of weapons and like he played without a a left tackle today there's a million excuses bad that's like if the point guard for the team that plays the harlem globetrotters gets like 15 points a game like all right let's yeah we're excited about him i think that they're supposed to be bad as a team so anything he does is just gravy but um yeah wow you're right that so they're all you think like lamar Jackson sees that grouping and says, you know what, I'm good.
Starting point is 00:36:07 Just give me the wild card play every other game. I'll be okay. I wouldn't be lumped in with these guys. It's just interesting that all of them are not doing that well. Like Sam was really bad today. I had that one on one of the TVs and I was just rooting for them to get to 10 points
Starting point is 00:36:27 so I wouldn't get killed by the Dolphins defense in fantasy. And it went the other way. The Dolphins defense just kept scoring points. But really bad off the mark throws and just seems super careless. And I know he's a rookie and I know it's early, but I just thought one of these guys would be further along by now.
Starting point is 00:36:45 It's week nine. I thought we'd see some flashes. I think Dak Prescott ruined it for everybody. He had a ridiculous year and the standard was raised. And, you know, Trubisky, it took a while. We didn't love Trubisky this time last year, did we? I still don't. He's seventh in QBR somehow.
Starting point is 00:37:07 I know, but he's on a playoff team. It's crazy. Now, here's where somebody comes back. I'm arguing with this strong man now. Somebody comes back and they're like, look, man, there's rookies. You can't judge rookies. It's not fair.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Okay. I'm going to grant that point. But we're in this 2018 where football turned into flag football. And people are just putting it. We just had the two best teams in the NFC just played a game that was 45 to 35. They scored 80 points. We have Mahomes, who you traded in fantasy for two guys who don't play. He's on pace to have like 50 touchdowns or something.
Starting point is 00:37:42 So I don't understand why we can do the flag football. Football is crazy. There's no defense anymore. It's so easy to score. It's almost too something. So I don't understand why we can do the flag football. Football's crazy. There's no defense anymore. It's so easy to score. It's almost too easy. We got to fix this too. Well, the rookie is like, shouldn't it be easier for rookie quarterbacks in 2018?
Starting point is 00:37:56 Why are these guys struggling? Yeah, I think so. No, it's definitely odd that these four or whatever, how many you grouped in there that are grouped in the bottom there are all getting off to a slow start as they are. But you could put Patrick Mahomes in that class though, couldn't you? I mean, he's like Ben Simmons. He played one game last year. He's pretty much a rookie.
Starting point is 00:38:15 True, true. Yeah, he's, so I don't know if this counts today, but he was 26 and six, 26 TDs, six picks. He's amazing. He's so much fun to watch. We're going to get to the week. Oh, God, it's week 10, Sal. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:30 Oh, man. It's flying by. Are you getting sad? I am getting. When we hit double digits, it is a little sad. But I do like that we found this teaser thing that we can kind of latch on to. All right. Doing well.
Starting point is 00:38:41 I want to guess the week 10 lines, but can we cross some teams off? Ooh, yeah. I don't think you want to cross the Broncos off, right? So the Raiders are crossed off. Giants, Niners, Bills, Cardinals, Browns. Yeah, sure. Broncos. Yeah, Broncos could join that group.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Jets. They're 3-6. I think so. They play the Bills this week, so if they win, they're 4-6. What are you talking about? The Jets aren't making the playoffs. I'm crossing them off. That's 8.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Lions are 3-5, and the Bucks are 3-5. I think we have to wait. Detroit plays Chicago two of the next three weeks. So we only have eight cross-offs so far. That's all you're allowing. Wait, who else? That's it. I'm not crossing anyone else off.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Yeah, you're right. That's it. No, you can't. Some of these other three-win teams. I want to cross off the freaking Dolphins, but they're a playoff team right now. They're 5-4. You're only two games ahead of them.
Starting point is 00:39:48 How is that? The Dolphins are 5-4 and they're minus 38. How's that possible? That's a bizarre team. And they won the dumbest game I watched all year. The dumbest win I've seen all year was Bears-Dolphins. It wasn't
Starting point is 00:40:03 this one where Osweiler went through for 139 yards and they had 203 yards of total offense and beat the Jets by a touchdown? This might have been the dumbest one. Blake is two and two in his last four. How about that? Who is? Blake Osweiler.
Starting point is 00:40:19 Brock Osweiler. Brock Osweiler. Who's Blake? Brock Osweiler. I think Blake Bortles and Brock Osweiler. You're right. They should just join already. They should just become one. That would be great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:35 Brock Osweiler. Brock Bortles and Blake Osweiler. Hey, you know what it's time to do? One of our favorite things. So Sal, Crown Royal doing something pretty cool this football season. They have launched a responsible drinking program called the Water Break. It's all about encouraging people to hydrate between drinks for a better experience,
Starting point is 00:40:56 whether at the game, watching at home, or in a bar. Have a great time. Enjoy some Crown. Just don't be that person. That ruins it for everyone. We've all seen that guy who drank too much watching the game. Make the right call. Take a water break.
Starting point is 00:41:08 So who made the right call this week? I'm going to switch sports here and go to MMA. And our boy DC, Daniel Cormier, I think he made the right move. Now, I had a really nice Moneyline parlay with Michigan, with Alabama, with Daniel Cormier, with the Chiefs. There was somebody else in there. Anyway, it was like minus 127. I was very proud of it. And I was like, I need Cormier. I need that to stick. We know how these UFC matches are canceled at the last minute, but I need that to stay to get the optimal odds that I'm getting on this parlay. So I need him to make weight. He comes in a little heavy. Okay, fine. I need that to stay to get the optimal odds that I'm getting on this parlay. So I need him to make weight.
Starting point is 00:41:46 He comes in a little heavy. Okay, fine. I need no one to punch each other, knock each other out in the press conference. That didn't happen. No drugs, no nothing. The fight is on. So all he needs to do is stay away from this Derek Lewis. Have you seen this guy?
Starting point is 00:41:58 I pay-per-viewed the fight last night. Oh, you did get it? Oh, yeah. I saw it. So his previous fights, he's a monster. You just got to stay away from that roundhouse because he'll knock you into tomorrow yeah um and i said just dc just just bide your time take him down toss him into the cage choke him out i bet the under under a minute and a half into the second round and it just made it by a few seconds
Starting point is 00:42:21 uh so hats off to you cormormier, Daniel Cormier. He's my water break guy of the day. That was the first water break we've had that doubled as a humble brag. It was really you just bragging about how you bet on Daniel Cormier. Somehow that was the crime royale. I don't know what else to do.
Starting point is 00:42:38 I'm looking at these coaches. I'm trying to give a coach a water break. I didn't like anything any coach did in the NFL this week. Did you have someone? Yeah, I have someone. And it's another humble brag because it's me. No, that's not really humble brag. No, it is. Is it a humble brag if I just say it's myself? I went to my- No, you can get the humble part out of there. Yeah. I went to my son's baseball game today,
Starting point is 00:43:05 which started at 10 o'clock West Coast time. I had my AirPods in and my iPhone with the Red Zone channel on. I didn't really talk to any of the other parents. I watched an hour and a half of the Red Zone. I zoomed back home, saw enough of the game. By the way, I'll save for parent corner drove home watched the next
Starting point is 00:43:28 hour and a half then drove all the way to Ventura for my daughter's soccer game oh wow listened to the Rams game
Starting point is 00:43:37 while on my phone was was or listened to the Chargers game while playing the Rams game on my phone got to the game
Starting point is 00:43:44 the game was at 325. Was able to watch most of the game before her first half started. I stopped watching. Came back in, saw all of the last two minutes of all the games, the missed field goal. Russ Wilson was watching that. Again, not interacting with the other parents. And really saw a fair amount of football.
Starting point is 00:44:04 Then listened to the Pats Packers first half on the way home, saw the second half. I'm really proud of myself, Sal. It's just great. It's a great combination of parenting and being responsible for this very important podcast that America likes to listen to. I was just going to say, I hope people appreciate it. And I still think Daniel Cormier would kick the crap out of you.
Starting point is 00:44:22 My choice would have been a new one. Bring it on, Daniel Cormier would kick the crap out of you. My choice would have been a new one. Bring it on, Daniel Cormier. But no, people should appreciate what we do to get prepared for this podcast, in which we pretty much say the same thing every week over and over. They should appreciate our commitment. Crown Royal reminds everyone this football season, take a water break and hydrate responsibly and make the right calls. Like humble bragging Sal and just flat out bragging Bill Simmons.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Let's do... By the way, the technology is tremendous. I've told this story a hundred times, but it was less than 10 years ago when Jimmy gave me that portable TV that had DirecTV on it. And now it's like AirPods and an
Starting point is 00:45:03 iPhone and I'm watching games and nobody even realizes that when my daughter comes out of the soccer game, I immediately shift my attention to the football game. Did you say you were watching the game in the car and listening on the radio? No, I had no, yeah, no. Oh, I was. Oh, I was. I put my phone, you know, in the little console between the thing, which probably, you know you know in the top so i can see through the windshield but also it's on the side but then i had the radio thing on so yeah it's probably not and you're driving 105 miles an hour no i was down only 75 it was it was fine i'm here aren't i i don't know i don't know if you're there everyone say goodbye to bill it's been nice
Starting point is 00:45:42 oh man i actually got a ticket this week for looking down on my phone as the car was moving although it wasn't my phone i was looking at ways i've gotten two uh two texting while driving tickets in the last six weeks i wasn't texting i was looking at the ways yeah well and we shouldn't laugh at this because it's it's you know the texting while driving is probably not a great it is terrible but I do feel like I'm better I'm better at it than a lot of people I should get a little bit of credit
Starting point is 00:46:12 I'm not kidding I really am I told the cop that he wasn't buying it I got mad at the cop I had driven my kids to school I was on my way to work and I just did the ways to see what was the fastest way to get to my house so I could whatever. And they pull me over and I turned it into a moral thing with the cop. I was just like, look, every part of my car works. I haven't hit
Starting point is 00:46:40 another car in literally 15 years. I pay my insurance. I pay my taxes. I drive through LA every day. I see people that have lights that don't work, that drive illegally, that have cars that are all banged up, that are just complete menaces. And you're mad at me because I was looking down at my phone to check the ways.
Starting point is 00:46:59 That didn't work? Like, really? I'm getting a ticket for this? Drive around LA for 10 minutes and look at the cars and the drivers. Are you crazy'm the one you're gonna arrest or not arrest but give a ticket to didn't work he gave me the ticket there are people starving in south korea what do you that i can't believe that didn't work yeah i tried to make the guy laugh i yeah that never oh man i said to him i said um this is getting
Starting point is 00:47:25 ridiculous already i just got one of these a month ago and he looked at me like i was mucked he's like yeah if you haven't learned your lesson then this is getting ridiculous i was like i know i'm just kidding i'm just see i know what it's stupid right i'm stupid he didn't care wrote it right up it's uh i've only gotten out of one ticket in my life. It was the day the Pats lost the second time they lost to the Giants in Indiana. We went to the Hoosiers gym, was driving back, got a ticket. And I think the guy might've been a fan and he let me off. I was going like 90 on some Indiana highway. So I got out of the ticket, was with a couple of Pats fan friends
Starting point is 00:48:04 and was convinced the Pats are going to win the Super Bowl at that point. You get out of the ticket was with a couple of Pats fan friends and was convinced the Pats are going to win the Super Bowl at that point you get out of a speeding ticket of course your team's going to win the Super Bowl and no no it was just setting up for well I was told this we don't talk about this all night but I was told that it's not a moving violation
Starting point is 00:48:20 and you don't get points on your license for the texting and driving I was like wow that's I'm not going to argue that, but that's ridiculous. There's no bigger example of a moving violation than that, right? Not looking at the road. I don't know whether everyone is a terrible driver, but I'm just telling you in the city of Los Angeles, it is some of the worst driving.
Starting point is 00:48:39 You can't even believe it. I almost would want to put a camera on my car and just drive around as people accidentally cut each other off, drift into lanes. You can't even believe it. I almost would want to put a camera on my car and just drive around as people accidentally cut each other off, drift into lanes. Like, you can't even describe it. It's like being in a video game. Right. I was personally offended that I got a ticket. All right.
Starting point is 00:48:56 Guess the lines. Week 10. God. It's going too fast, Sal. I feel like the Cowboys have like six games. How is this week 10? How is another season of Jason Garrett? Steelers home for the Panthers.
Starting point is 00:49:14 They have done just a great job with some of these night games. This is a good one. I'm actually excited to watch this. We'll see how banged up the Steelers were from that Ravens game. It was physical as they all were, but not like the old days where five guys are getting carted off. I had the Steelers by five over Carolina. You get it exactly.
Starting point is 00:49:32 I had four. That's a good number. That's probably right on. I don't know what to do with that. There are four teams off, which you mentioned, Broncos, Ravens, Texans, and Vikings. So we gave out Cam 32 or 35 Ravens, Texans, and Vikings. So we gave out Cam 32 or 35 to 1,
Starting point is 00:49:48 something like that, for MVP. If they win this game, is he top three MVP? Right now? If they win this game, does he jump ahead of Gurley, Breeze, and Mahomes? No, I don't think so. Gurley dropped. What do you mean he dropped? I think it's Mahomes won, Breeze
Starting point is 00:50:04 too right now. He still scored a touchdown He still has 16 through 9 games Breeze has to be ahead of him though Has to You don't think so? Oh Breeze? Yeah Breeze yeah I don't know if Cam goes third I'm saying if they win this game
Starting point is 00:50:23 Right maybe Yeah maybe That's a close one if Cam goes third. I'm saying if they win this game. Right. Maybe. Yeah, maybe. That's a close one. Nice little test for the Steelers. If you beat the Ravens and the Panthers in the span of 120 hours, I'm impressed. Yeah, that's pretty good. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:50:39 And Le'Veon Bell was supposed to come back this week, right? Yeah, we should talk about that briefly. I don't know who handled 2018 worse, him or Jimmy Butler, but both of them are in significantly worse situations than they were. And in Le'Veon's case, yeah, he saved eight and counting weeks on his body, and I totally get it. It makes sense, Running back, short shelf life, all that stuff. But I just don't see what giant contract is out there waiting for him. Do you?
Starting point is 00:51:12 Who's going to spend $100 million on that? I'm pretty sure they're able to franchise tag him for less now, next year. Yeah. And this guy, Connor, comes in and might actually have a better rushing slash touchdown season than, than Le'Veon ever did. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:30 They're probably like, screw you. We're in first place without you. And what Jimmy Butler has done this season. I I'm almost speechless. Why they had, why the Timberwolves haven't had the balls to suspend that dude yet without pay is inexplicable.
Starting point is 00:51:45 I can't believe that hasn't happened yet. That's one thing we didn't see coming on the podcast, right? I mean, not that we didn't see it. Obviously, it was going to be a possibility, but we didn't think that would be the result. Well, we talked. You had a prop. It was like 27 games played with Timberwolves, high or low. And I think we went low.
Starting point is 00:52:02 So he's not getting to 27. I'll tell you that much. Sunday's marquee game. This is weird. This might be the highest line I've ever chosen for a Sunday marquee game, but this was the one that kind of jumped out at me the most. Rams home Seahawks, the guest. Little NFC West lineage, kind of a must must win game for the Seahawks all of a sudden yeah after blowing this one well not blowing they lost
Starting point is 00:52:30 and they should have lost you don't want to go 4-5 that would be tough what's the wild card still 10-6 I think for the 6 seed they're 4-4 I think the NFC West has probably sailed anyway but I think this is a West has probably sailed anyway,
Starting point is 00:52:48 but I think this is a kitchen sink game for them. A little like the Pats tonight against the Packers where they just kind of couldn't afford to lose that one if they want to get a week one bye in the playoffs. But I have the Rams by nine. What'd you have for this one? I had nine and a half, and it's 10. So I'm going to get that one. And we will be putting
Starting point is 00:53:08 that on a teaser. No questions asked. The Rams beat them, what was it, 33-31 a few weeks ago? Like three weeks ago? I'm mad I got sucked into the Seahawks and it turns out the Lions just suck. That was a classic. They took care of business against the
Starting point is 00:53:24 Lions team that I thought was, obviously, I thought was better than they were. He didn't throw downfield today at all, right? No. It didn't look like he threw downfield at all. And they don't really have a running game. They're a mess in the red zone and everything. You talking about the Lions or the Seahawks?
Starting point is 00:53:42 No, the Seahawks today. Well, they had been running the ball really well the last few weeks, I think. I just missed that one. I thought that was going to be the classic ball control, special teams, Chargers miss a big field goal. And then the Chargers missed the extra point, right? It was 7-6 instead of 7-7 and then then they go they go for two the next time they miss it it's 12-7 instead of four and then all the makings of a classic Chargers loss and then they didn't actually lose Chargers I think the Chargers have enough to contend with with this Anthony Lynn now please can they please I brought this up a month ago just do away with the kicker
Starting point is 00:54:22 just say we don't have kickers we're're not doing it anymore. This guy had three straight games with a missed field goal and an extra point. It hasn't happened in 40 years. Sturgis, they're not right for a kicker. You know how Chick-fil-A isn't open on Sunday? It's like, yeah, it doesn't work for us. We're not going to have a kicker. We don't open on Sunday. Well, they had that Lambo who's been really good for the Jags. Yeah, sure. I know. But as soon as they come to the Chargers, they don't do anything. But they waived Lambo and he went to the Jags and he was lights out.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Maybe it's like the curse of Lambo. Right. Yeah. It's a Lambo curse. Well, mark the Rams because I think we should strongly consider teasing them. For sure. That's a win. The watchables. They don't win.
Starting point is 00:55:07 The McVay doesn't lose two in a row, especially as a double-digit favorite. Oh, we were arguing about this on the NFL Slack and Riley McAtee, our resident Rams fan. Riley McAtee, very talented young editor for us. His favorite two teams are the LA Rams and the Sacramento Kings. How about that? So any sort of happiness at all. He's like over the moon. They couldn't be more grateful and happy.
Starting point is 00:55:33 And meanwhile, you know, I'm upset because the Red Sox lost an 18 inning game in my 11th time. The Rams will win more games than the Kings, right? Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no. The Kings are six and four. They're kind of feeling themselves. Oh yeah, right? Yeah. No, no, no. The Kings are six and four. They're kind of feeling themselves.
Starting point is 00:55:46 Oh, yeah, that's right. They're actually putting together something here. So at some point when the Browns fired Hugh Jackson, somebody jokingly said they heard the Browns were going to trade like two first round picks for Sean McVay. And Riley reacted like we were trying to kidnap his child out of the, out of the backseat of a car or something.
Starting point is 00:56:07 He was so upset. It was like, no, no, it's a joke. It's a joke. But that leads me to a question. If the Browns offered the Rams for first round picks for Sean McVay,
Starting point is 00:56:17 did they say yes or no? For first round, for first round, this guy, this is, this is the Belichick of the new generation, right? Like this guy is great. Even in the press conference, he's great. He's taking blame for the loss.
Starting point is 00:56:32 Like you don't see that anymore. He blamed his scheming. This guy's a real deal. I wouldn't do it if I'm the Rams. I'm giving you 19, 21, 23, and 25. Every other year for the next eight. Four first round picks for Sean McVay. You're saying no. And those are good
Starting point is 00:56:48 picks too, right? Because that's coming from... I might be giving you four top five picks. Four. You got to take four. I think you have to take four. I would say no. Would you have taken that for Belichick? I would say no. I would not take it. I would need six first
Starting point is 00:57:03 round picks for Sean McVay. Well, four is stupid. That's like, you know, six, you know, that's like someone saying, I'll give you a zillion dollars to jump off this bridge, but you don't, you don't get hurt anything. You just have to, you just have to take a punch from Tyson, a zillion dollars. I'm like, all right, I'll flip this around. The clapper finally gets fired in January. Good. Adam Schifter reports Jerry Jones has offered
Starting point is 00:57:31 the Los Angeles Rams five first round picks for Sean McVay. Would you be happy or sad? I'd be happy. I only heard the part where Clapper got fired in January. I'm still happy. Did heard the part where a clapper got fired in January I'm still happy Did that not happen?
Starting point is 00:57:47 Yeah Somebody Did you see the guy who dressed up as the clapper for Halloween? No You didn't see that video? Oh my god No I gotta send that to you
Starting point is 00:58:00 Did he go to Dodger Stadium? That was really the clapper He had the headset He had the headset. He had, it is, I'm going to put it, I'll put it on my Twitter tonight so people can see it.
Starting point is 00:58:11 It is, whoever did that, kudos to you, dude. It was really great. All right, the watchables. Saints traveling
Starting point is 00:58:21 to Cincinnati to play the Bengals. Sal, I should mention this has all the makings of a Michael Conrad Memorial. Let's be careful out there, week. There might be as, I don't know what the exact lines are, but there might be as many as six home underdogs this week. I think this is the first one, Saints minus three at Cincinnati. There are, to get ahead of you, there are four home underdogs,
Starting point is 00:58:46 but yeah, one of them's close, yeah. What'd you say it was? Saints minus three. I said three and a half. It's four and a half. That's too high. I mean, arguably the best team in football. You have to make them a three.
Starting point is 00:59:01 Since he's coming off a bye, right? I think you still have to make it three and a half, four and a half. I like that Sensi team, though. I mean, they could beat the Saints. Saints aren't invincible. That comes down. You're not betting them, though. You're not betting the Bengals.
Starting point is 00:59:12 That comes down. That comes down to Saints three and a half. Next one. Falcons minus five and a half Browns at Cleveland. That's my pick. You went too high. I said four and a half, and it Cleveland. That's my pick. You went too high. I said four and a half and it's four. And here we go again.
Starting point is 00:59:30 So we didn't talk about the sad demise of Huey headlines. Oh yeah. Just delicious. You do the Cody of the year every year for people in your universe, the character of the year. The character of the year. You do points.
Starting point is 00:59:45 You figure out all this. I think if you did it for the general population, I think Hugh Jackson wins. I think he's the character of the year. I got sad. Me too. Didn't you get a little sad when he was gone? It's like, oh, we're going to miss out on. That's a lot of free wins gambling wise.
Starting point is 00:59:59 Yeah, but then Greg the bounty hunter comes right in and claims that he had 11 job offers, 11 written job offers. Lombardi said on GM Street on Friday, he's like, he's never heard of a written job offer ever. He's been, was in football for 30 years. Never heard of that once. Greg Williams had 11 letters for coaching jobs. I don't think he had 11 letters for anything. This could be, it could be middle school.
Starting point is 01:00:21 Who knows what he was talking about? Oh, you think he, that could have been high school or college? Yeah, he kept it pretty vague. But my favorite thing was the press tour after Hugh got fired, talking about how he would turn the offense around, basically saying that Baker isn't doing his job. That's why they're not succeeding. He blamed everyone else. What's funny is he was leaking stuff when he was there and everybody knew he was leaking stuff. And he tried to claim that they should have taken Carson Wentz, but then at the time, everyone knew that he was the one who didn't want to take Carson Wentz.
Starting point is 01:00:55 And then he was mad because they hired an offensive coordinator to help him with the offense. And his attitude was, well, that's why I'm here because I'm good at the offense. And they were like, no, that's why I'm here. Cause I'm good at the offense. And they were like, no, actually, actually you're the coach. You're supposed to run the whole team. That's why you have people in charge of specific parts. He didn't really like that. And then he didn't like Todd Haley's offense. And the funny thing is if you watch hard knocks, you could see, it was almost like succession it's like in succession you're like oh the oldest son
Starting point is 01:01:26 i can't remember his name um you you know it's gonna him and logan it's it's headed towards something bad that's how i felt about todd haley and hugh jackson and then and it was really good it only happened a few hours after we uh posted our podcast i know fucking browns yeah i i wanted another i wanted a behind the scenes view of what, what happened when Haley and Jackson were fired. I was like, just give us that one thing. I miss it so much. I miss hard knocks. I miss Hugh Jackson at the table saying this is why I'm sitting here.
Starting point is 01:01:55 And this is why you guys are sitting there. When you're in this chair, you guys will sit here. Yeah. When you're in this chair, you'll understand when you're in this chair, you'll know, you know, it's like, I've been in that chair. I've been in that chair. It's not like being in this chair. It's different. So this chair, that chair, you'll understand. When you're in this chair, you'll know. You'll know it's like being in this chair. I've been in that chair. It's not like being in this chair. It's different. So this chair, that chair. Oh, he was so great. Listen, my offer
Starting point is 01:02:12 is out there. If he wants to join the Ringer Podcast Network, I have whatever he wants. If he wants his own podcast, if he wants to appear in the Ringer NFL show, if he wants to go on GM Street, if he wants to come on here, you name your price, Huey Headlines he had lens i love it see now that you're not you're not you don't have to eat testicles which you uh offered up what what would what the raiders have to do
Starting point is 01:02:34 i said i would eat testicles if the raiders made the playoffs made the playoffs all right you're good there i'm good i'm good i listen i don't promise to eat testicles unless I'm pretty positive I'm not going to have to eat the testicles. That's one of my rules. No, yes, you do. You say it all the time. You're dying to eat testicles. It's a dirty little secret. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:02:57 Let's take a quick break. All right. We are well into football season, and some people out there, Cousin Sal being one of them, have major regrets about their season-long fantasy teams. He spent all off-season researching and getting excited for his draft. He did all those mock drafts all over the place and then just months of pain. That's why he's excited that I'm playing on FanDuel all season because he needs fantasy stories because his own team sucks. Over at Fandu, you get the excitement of researching and building your team each week, regardless of the outcome. Fandu has never been more fun or easy to play.
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Starting point is 01:04:11 Last one for the watchables. Yet another home underdog. Patriots at Tennessee. Belichick versus Vrabel. Belichick loves Vrabel. Vrabel knows the Pats really well. I'm sure he's going to have like two or three little Tom Brady tricks. And yet
Starting point is 01:04:30 I have the Patriots favored by four and a half. Yeah, you went light on that. I said six and it opened at six and a half. That was before tonight's game. So I don't know how that changes. I am flagging this game, Sal. How so? Stay away?
Starting point is 01:04:45 It's a stay away. Do not put the Pats in anything. I don't like it. Well, I was going to ask you, so you seem to know the relationships well. How is this different from, aside from, that was a night game, right? Was that a night game when the Patriots lost to Detroit? Yeah, it was, right? How is this different? So, a good, smart defense that doesn't make mistakes,
Starting point is 01:05:07 team that can run the ball, a QB whose only real skill is being able to scramble and extend plays, which is the kind of guy that kills the Patriots over and over again. Important pseudo, maybe even a real must-win for the Titans. And they're coming off a bye. And the Pats have not looked good the past two weeks. I'm sorry. They got to 31 points today because
Starting point is 01:05:29 they had to do some gimmick kitchen sink stuff. But I don't love the way they look. I think this is a red flagger. They're not coming off a bye, Tennessee. They're going to play my Dallas Cowboys tomorrow night. Yeah, I stand by it. They're coming off a bye, Tennessee. They're going to play my Dallas Cowboys tomorrow night. Yeah, I stand by it.
Starting point is 01:05:45 They're coming off a bye. You son of a bitch. They're coming off a short week, and they're going to lose tomorrow. You'll see. They're coming off a clap. They're coming off a series of claps. Yeah, they are coming off a bye, but then they play your crappy team.
Starting point is 01:06:02 Right. The barely watchables. What was the line on that? Oh, so yeah, it was much higher. Six and a half. Yeah. The barely watchables. First off, the Bears are home for the Lions.
Starting point is 01:06:17 I guess it's a must win for the Lions. I think their season's probably already over. The Bears are trying to keep their little lead on the bikes i have the bears minus six and i think we should mark this one as well as a possible teaser you're gonna get it i went low i said four and a half and this is the this is the kind of game where we get cute and shift from a three team 10 point teaser to a two team six point teaser and then the lions win in overtime or something stupid, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:46 Yeah. What's the line? Oh, yeah. No, it's six and a half. Not afraid of Stafford anymore. What was he sacked like 10 times today? When they traded Golden Tate, that felt like a white flag for me
Starting point is 01:07:06 because Golden Tate's good. That's not a move you make if you think you're a playoff team. That was weird. That sucked too. Philly's going to be all right with him too because they're last in the league in that slot receiver spot for production wise. I like Golden Tate. I hated that trade. That was a weird one. That felt white flaggish
Starting point is 01:07:22 to me. If you're on the team, how do you get excited after that? You're like, oh man, we just traded our awesome receiver. Jags Colts at Indy. You and I both like this Colts team and we have money on them to win the AFC South. Long shot bet. They have to win this game.
Starting point is 01:07:38 They could knock the Jags out. Yeah, this is probably a crossout game for one of us, I mean, or for one of these teams. And for the bets we have on both of them for different reasons to win the SEC. I was looking at that today. How do we have the Jaguars?
Starting point is 01:07:55 I mean, they just spiraled the second we phoned in that bet for them to win a division. They phoned in the season. I had the Jaguars incredibly favored in this game by one point, but I think I'm wrong. Yeah, you are. I said Indy by three. It's Indy by three and a half. Holy shit, really?
Starting point is 01:08:13 I think they're just better at this point. What are you going to do? I like the Colts. Maybe I wanted that line to be smart. Wow, Colts by three and a half. So the Jags are just done this season. I mean, the Jags are three and five. Colts are three and five. I know you don't believe it, but if Tennessee
Starting point is 01:08:30 loses, are they three? What's their record? Three and five also? Yeah, but the Texans are really going to have like a two and a half game lead over everybody. That's ridiculous. I can't believe that. The Texans, God, they're going to be the shakiest team.
Starting point is 01:08:46 They're going to be 11-5. We're going to be watching them at shakies, just shaking our head at each other. Well, I'll tell you what. It's not too early to get excited about a team we want to bet against in the playoffs, and that might be the one, right? That quarterback's decent, though. We like betting against teams with crappy quarterbacks.
Starting point is 01:09:03 Is there any way Osweiler can get in the playoffs? Five and four? Is this doable? Can they get to ten and six? Well, it's either them or like what? The Ravens? Or who's competing for that spot? Cincinnati, I guess, right? Cincy's pretty good too.
Starting point is 01:09:19 The Dolphins are the worst possible team that can make the playoffs. That'd be really bad. The Redphins are the worst possible team that can make the playoffs. That'd be really bad. The Redskins are at Tampa. I thought the Redskins would be favorite in this game, but after you told me there's only four dogs, I think I'm wrong. But I'm not going to lie. I had Redskins by one.
Starting point is 01:09:36 I had Tampa by one. Tampa's favorite by one and a half. Ridiculous. Can Joe House just warn us when they're just not going to show up? Because I like them today against Atlanta really? they did not as Francesa says they didn't even get off the bus
Starting point is 01:09:52 dog I picked the Falcons on Friday almost entirely because I couldn't imagine a world where the Redskins were 6-2 that's kind of what I thought with Houston I thought the I thought with Houston. I thought the same thing with Houston.
Starting point is 01:10:06 Like, they're not going to win six in a row. I don't care if they went to Denver after the Broncos just traded their best receiver to them. Yeah. Stupid. Makes no sense. We have our most action-packed poopfecta yet, Sal. Four games. It's a quadruple poopfecta.
Starting point is 01:10:23 First one. Chiefs home for the Cardinals dare I say this is our biggest line of the year I had Chiefs by 18 what'd you have I said 16 and it's 17 so let's share this one let's spread it around
Starting point is 01:10:37 I think that gets to 19 or 19 and a half by game time I can't I feel like Mahomes took it easy on the Browns today with screen passes and stuff, and they still were dynamite. I don't see, even when they take their foot off the pedal, they have to score 35-38, right?
Starting point is 01:10:56 It does seem like they're telling Mahomes, don't take any hits. Yeah. He took one today, and I thought the Chiefs sideline looked pissed about it, just that he put himself in the position second one chargers at oakland this is definitely a home dog situation i went double digits chargers 11 over the raiders yeah you were closer i don't know why i said seven and a half that was dumb the charges already beat them uh this year what was it 26 10 yeah weeks ago
Starting point is 01:11:22 yeah yeah it's uh it's 10 i gotta say not to keep patting ourselves on the back but we did a really good job before the season we went to what we did a good job for the season with some of our hunches and things we yeah i know if the jaguars didn't exist we would be doing great but we didn't before the season that wasn't one of our teams one of our we went all in on like five or six things and one of our teams. That's true. We went all in on like five or six things and one of them was that the Raiders
Starting point is 01:11:48 were going to be a train wreck. Yeah, that's true. And they've been a train wreck. So Raiders-Rams are two 10-point teasers for sure, right? Well, yeah. So we got Chargers-Rams.
Starting point is 01:12:00 Oh, right. I'm sorry. Chargers-Rams. That's two so far. And, you know, Chiefs minus seven is not losing, right. I'm sorry. Chargers. Yeah. Chargers, Rams. That's two so far. And, you know, Chiefs minus seven is not losing, right? You could talk me into... What do you think the Falcons line will be at game time? Falcons at Cleveland.
Starting point is 01:12:15 I think it stays the same. It's very weird. So the Chiefs opened at like nine and a half and went down to eight and a half and i get nervous when all that sharp money comes in yeah that was the most lopsided bet game in like uh like four years since like the patriots played somebody i forgot who it was but like 85 of the betting tickets had the chiefs on them and yet the line went from nine and a half to eight and a half so i was so screwed up by. But then they just come out and clobber them. Like the Browns find ways to screw up covers. Even if they can backdoor it,
Starting point is 01:12:48 they just, they don't want any part of it. So what's the Falcons line right now? Right now it's four. Yeah, so 10 point tees, you take them to six or the Browns beating them by a touchdown? Come on. Right, right, right. Yeah, that's good.
Starting point is 01:13:02 I like that. Now I'm going to save the Poopfecta Super Bowl for last. Next Poopfecta game is the Packers at home against the Dolphins. This is one of those that if the Dolphins somehow beat the Packers, I think Mike McCarthy gets fired the next day. Yeah, he could go. Any time now. I had the Packers by nine over the Dolphins,
Starting point is 01:13:24 and I think it's too high, and I'm not betting it. No, you're right. Well, Vegas doesn't think it's too high. They said nine exactly. I said six and a half. I don't know why. You would think it's a must-home win. If you harken back to the days when the Packers wouldn't lose at home,
Starting point is 01:13:41 this really has to be a win, right? I just don't think they're that team anymore. But that's why we love mid-November, because all of a sudden, it'd be like, man, remember when we were right off the Packers? Now they've won five straight. Jesus.
Starting point is 01:13:55 Here we go. The poop fact of Super Bowl. This is it. We've waited for this our whole lives. The New York Jets, at home, with their weekend at Bernie's coach playing
Starting point is 01:14:07 Nathan Peterman and the Buffalo Bills. My God. Let the interception carnage begin. How can they justify this Kaepernick thing anymore? Kaepernick not being in Buffalo, you mean? How many terrible quarterbacks have we seen this year? I mean, it's like comical at this point it's embarrassing I think if you interviewed
Starting point is 01:14:28 Kaepernick you'd be like hey guys I appreciate the the backup but don't do me any favors I don't want to play in Buffalo in November and December thanks anyway go 0-8 yeah I'm doing God's work right now I'm good yeah uh I have the Jets by four and and that's not just four points. That's four shits. That's four I don't give a fucks. That's four whatever you want. I have the Jets by four. I had seven, and it's eight.
Starting point is 01:14:54 Jets by eight. Oh, my God. That is absolutely the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life. I think they're playing for Weekend at Bully's job here. Weekend at Bully's. I think they're in trouble here. Oh, I got to get, that feels like a ringer video. Weekend at Bully's.
Starting point is 01:15:14 Yeah, do it. It's just him behind the jet boat on the skis, just hitting things. Fireman Fred screaming at him. What's that guy's name? Yeah, Fireman Ed. So Xavier Sam had zero TDs, four picks, and a pick six, which many years ago I dubbed as a DeLome. I named it after Jake DeLome.
Starting point is 01:15:39 And if you have five picks, no TDs, and a pick six, that's the full DeLome. So I thought he had a chance for the full DeLome, but he just went for the DeLome. Kuda, congrats to him. I said that field was ruined from the Miami game yesterday.
Starting point is 01:15:56 The Dolphins do just enough to win. I don't know how they're winning these games. Like I said, you look at Osweiler's numbers. 203 total yards of offense. The heist. Yeah, I was driving to my son's baseball game on the NFL channel. They were talking about how messed up that field was.
Starting point is 01:16:17 And it's like the Miami Dolphins home season is just like, it's like Mad Libs at this point, right? Every year, like a hurricane messes with one game, the field gets screwed up for two other games, Ryan Tannehill gets hurt, some terrible quarterback who we hadn't thought of for a couple years is all of a sudden
Starting point is 01:16:35 starting for them. It's over and over again. Yeah, they're a weird team at Dolphin. Didn't their offensive line coach do something terrible last year? Yeah. There's other more tortured But then their offensive line coach do something terrible last year. Yeah. They, you know, there's, there's something,
Starting point is 01:16:48 there's other more tortured franchises, but if you're a Dolphins fan, just this century, since Marino retired, it's not like you have a shitload of great memories. No. Oh man. Remember that year when, with Pennington,
Starting point is 01:16:59 when we went 10 and six, you're just getting killed by the Pats every year. You had the one dude that ran the wildcat against the Patriots and won that game. That was probably 15 years ago. The Ronnie Brown, Tony Sperano. Was it Ronnie Brown?
Starting point is 01:17:12 Yeah. Ronnie Brown. And who's the other running back? What's it? It was another high draft pick. I don't know why I want to say Lamar Miller, but it's not Lamar Miller. Yeah,
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Starting point is 01:18:27 All right, Sunday night, your Cowboys, man. So when you come back on this podcast a week from now, assuming you haven't just decided to drive to Mexico or just disappeared, two Cowboys games will have been played. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Including two with your new star receiver
Starting point is 01:18:51 that you gave up a first round pick for and then other receivers who were actually better than him went for less than a first round pick. But then Jerry... Well, to be fair, Amari Cooper's like five years younger than a lot of these guys. I mean, he's still like 24, right? Can I have a counter?
Starting point is 01:19:11 No, there's a ton of counters, but I would say that's the only thing, that's the only thing I would say in favor of this trade. They were pushing that narrative really hard that he was only 24. Yeah, I know. It was like, okay, but is he good? Is he worth a first round pick? Like is he is he worth a first round pick like brandon
Starting point is 01:19:27 cooks went for a first round pick that guy actually put some numbers i don't know that was crazy there's a big the big problem is every other gm offered a two and that there was at least five apparently the other problem is why not just draft calvin ridley if you wanted to receive her so badly i mean this vanderash guy is okay at linebacker. The only thing I think, though, it's shit or get off the pot for Jason Garrett. I think that's the thing. I don't think they're giving him another chance after this. Lottery, protect the pick, or get a pick back.
Starting point is 01:20:02 He can't just be a number one for that. Ludicrousrous I have the Eagles by four I said four also Vegas has them at six they're big Golden Tate fans we split that I think that game's close I don't I don't see you getting
Starting point is 01:20:18 rolling over in that game you love Bears Eagles two team teaser probably doesn't get easier than that I don't trust the Eagles yet I need to see them play a good game. Monday night, Niners-Giants. This is our fifth Poopfecta, although Monday night are ineligible for the Poopfecta. But who's the new hero?
Starting point is 01:20:36 I'll warn you in advance, it doesn't even matter because I beat you by two so far. Unless you want to make this one double. You beat me? I felt like I was killing you this week. No way. You had plus ones when it was minus one. You had plus one when it was minus three and a half.
Starting point is 01:20:54 I have the 49ers by three in this one, so I hit it exactly. No, you got this one exactly. I said Niners by one. We didn't talk about this new kid yet. Second coming of Joe Montana. But I just felt I have never seen holes that big for a running back to go through, for receivers to get open in seams. I don't know what happened
Starting point is 01:21:14 with the Raiders. I don't think football teams tank, but this team might be tanking. And what's funny is... Where's this guy Joe Montana? What are we looking at? Now he's not Joe Montana. What's his name?
Starting point is 01:21:29 Okay, good. What's his name? Mullins. Mullins. He broke Favre's record at Southern Miss for yards. Yeah. Well, I like the whole thing where they said they stashed him on the practice squad, but they held their breath.
Starting point is 01:21:48 They were terrified somebody was going to take him. It's like, if you're terrified somebody's going to take him, just put him on the team and wave CJ Beathard. What are you doing? That's how you were so invested in this guy that you were whatever. Speaking of teams that are tanking, your fantasy team got annihilated again.
Starting point is 01:22:04 It is now going to be 0-9. Unless Zeke Elliott can get 38 points tomorrow, it's going to be 0-9, which I am positive has never happened. We've never had an 0-9 fantasy team. I don't think we've seen it. You're still making moves. I still think my team is good. I'm going to score close to 100 this week.
Starting point is 01:22:22 You're still making moves. You waved Eli Manning for Case Keenum this week. I don't know what you're doing. Should I just lay down and die here? I need to compete. You guys are all still fighting for playoff spots. I want to put up a good squad here. You have more life than the Jets coach.
Starting point is 01:22:42 I don't know what to do. How do you win in this? I've made the finals three of the last four years i'm not not bad at this i don't know what's going on matt ryan had 31 points as the second highest scoring quarterback this week melvin ingram or now whatever mark ingram's terrible edelman does the same thing every game devante adams what do i do? I have Fournette and Gronkowski on the bench. Miserable. Well, I guess part of the problem is
Starting point is 01:23:09 each move in our league costs $5. So it feels like, hold on, I'm going to put on a little mood music for us. Talking about South's fantasy team it's 0-9 I have to win this week
Starting point is 01:23:36 maybe Nick Mullins would be the key should I take Nick Mullins? oh man I'm really rooting for you Only four weeks left You might get the collar for the whole year This is a good team
Starting point is 01:23:52 For God's sake I have as many points as teams that have three wins You should dedicate the rest of the season To Rob Gronkowski Who died Who died a year ago Sing it Michael Stipe I hate R.E.M. Let's go to who died a year ago. Sing it, Michael Stipe.
Starting point is 01:24:08 I hate R.E.M. Let's go to Parent Corner. I'm just starting now getting a taste of... I was lucky all these years getting the kids playing all their soccer games, all their flag football games, all their basketball games in town here. I'd have like a three minute ride sometimes five minutes but now my oldest joined this club league and it takes you to all that we haven't driven under an hour on a saturday in like six weeks so this
Starting point is 01:24:38 this tournament um took him to uh mission viejo Where is this? Ladera. You've been there, right? Yeah, I've been to a lot of these places, yeah. All right, so that's where that is. And that's 55 miles. Takes $1.15 in traffic if you're lucky. So I tell my wife, he has two games Saturday. He has one game Sunday.
Starting point is 01:25:00 He has two games Sunday if he wins. He's in the finals, yeah. So I was like, all right, I'll do Saturday. And then I'll take the other two kids on Sunday to football, to Corolla's. And then on Sunday, you take him to freaking Mission Viejo. Great. All right. So we go Saturday.
Starting point is 01:25:14 They win both. They're coming back Sunday. Sunday, I'm at Corolla's. The wife's there at the game. He wins the first game. Now he's in the final. So now I'm a little bummed at myself for not going there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:28 Right? Now I don't know what to do. Now you feel like a bad parent. Yeah, I feel like a bad parent, even though I'm watching the other two. So I say, listen, text me the scores. She's like, all right, they're down 10. So I'm kind of glad they're down 10. I'm like, all right, I don't want to be there when they win the title.
Starting point is 01:25:43 And then they fight back. 10 i'm like all right i don't want to be there when they lose uh win the title so um and then they fight back she's like they're down one with uh with five seconds left and their kids at the line i'm like facetime me right now i got to get in on this um and archie's having a good game he's got like eight points and a bunch of rebounds and a steal i was like i gotta see this and uh so she haphazardly turns the camera it's all a mess we should have this down by now but we're facetiming we're watching the kid has three free throws he misses the first two makes the third ties it for my son's team there's three seconds left the uh the opposing team inbounds it my son archie he fouls the kid he fouls a kid oh no the J.R. Smith no they were up one he
Starting point is 01:26:28 thought they were down one oh he intentionally fouled him yeah he thought they were down one because he got confused with the three free throws and I'm like and I'm screaming into the damn like what's he doing she's like oh yeah they shouldn't have called it I was like no no no from what I see he went right after the kid he tried to to foul. I was like, no, no, no. I don't know why the ref called. I was like, he intends, me from 50 miles away can tell what's going on, on a blurry screen, but she couldn't say, but whatever. So the kid, of course, gets a one-on-one, sinks the first one. He's devastated.
Starting point is 01:26:59 I want to yell at him over FaceTime, but the FaceTime kicks out. So now I have to wait for him to get home, like two and a half hours. And I see him. And at that point, I was like, I can't yell at him. Now, I think you would have yelled at him, right? But I feel like he's been through enough for two and a half hours and I wasn't there. So it makes me an extra bad parent to lay into him. So I just tapped him on the shoulder and then came in the room and watched the patriots game wasn't that the right thing to do yeah i don't think first of all phenomenal story um yeah i don't think it's good to yell at kids for screw-ups i think the only the only thing trial and error over the years is effort you can yell at them for.
Starting point is 01:27:46 Yeah. Especially if there's been driving. Well, fouling in a tie game is too much effort, right? Well, yeah, that's like a brain fart though. That's like, you know, he's going to be the hardest on himself on that thing. Right. But like if it's like a fast break where he just decided not to run back and they got a layup, like that's the kind of thing where it's like, what are you doing?
Starting point is 01:28:04 I just sacrificed my Sunday. You're not going to run back and they got a layup. Like that's the kind of thing where it's like, what are you doing? I just sacrificed my Sunday. You're not going to run. Right, right. Yeah, that's what I couldn't even say that. I'm like, I hear I am not sacrificing my Sunday and you're intentionally fouling for no reason. Like it didn't make sense. Do you think there should be a course
Starting point is 01:28:19 for wives and moms to learn how to FaceTime sporting events for their husbands who aren't there. Because I've had similar issues with my wife. And it's honestly like they're trying to land the challenger. Right. Or vice versa. We don't want to be sexist here. There are some wives that want to see from home
Starting point is 01:28:41 and husbands that don't want to do it know how to do it. Listen, I'm only judging from the experience of my wife and your wife okay so we can we know we can at least start a course where just our two wives would learn how to facetime successfully at a sporting event and if more people want to come god bless them but oh yeah for the first 15 seconds my wife had it on her face i was like i don't need to hear from you i i want to see the i could we could text each other or we could talk just on the phone to hear to hear from you i don't need to see but you know have your hair back and dana like doesn't matter she she thought her expressions were enough for the facetime that not the actual 10 people on the
Starting point is 01:29:21 court it's like uh the real world the real world confessional or something. I don't know. I don't know what you needed. My parent corner, my son, he had a baseball game today, which I went to the first one. He struck out the first time up. The second time, he bats clean up. So sometimes there's runners on base.
Starting point is 01:29:43 So third and second second we're down we kind of need a hit he gets his big hit runs to second lands on second does the you know when the guy in like the Astros
Starting point is 01:29:55 they do they get to second they do the clap and then they point to the dugout yeah right so does the clap points to the dugout and then does the Brock Holt hip shake thing from the Red Sox thing.
Starting point is 01:30:07 All in a row. It was incredible. I've never been more appalled and proud of him at the same time. It was phenomenal. Really great. Like really mimicked to a T everything he saw during the baseball playoffs all in one play. Big hit, the clap at second.
Starting point is 01:30:24 And I'm like man this kid's really figuring out so then i took my my daughter to the soccer game and then uh my wife texted me and said well no more fortnight for ben and i said what do you mean and he was playing fortnight he got mad they lost he threw his controller against the tv and broke the screen oh no so he no longer has a tv So that all happened in the span of five hours. Wow. And you were also proud and devastated at the same time, right? Now, that one, I was just mad.
Starting point is 01:30:53 I'm positive he knows not to throw the controller at the TV. He really gets mad now. The Fortnite, when they lose, it really feels like he's personally, like he's under attack. But I was going to say, a lot of this is gravy. This went over.
Starting point is 01:31:07 First week in November to break a screen out of anger over a video game? This is his first one. This went over by 13 months, I think. It's a really terrible job by him because guess what? No more hand-me-down TVs. Right. That's it. No more. He's a TV list. Right. That's it. No more.
Starting point is 01:31:26 There's a TV list in his room. But honestly, you say no more, but he's going to be playing in three weeks, right? He can have his iPhone and choke on it for all I care. I'm so mad that he did that. What a little dick he is. Is it playable or is it really just shattered? Well, that's the thing. I was thinking of doing the thing where you just leave the TV in there
Starting point is 01:31:45 with the crack in it and they just have to... It's like, hey man, it's your TV. Yeah, exactly. Put some tape on it. Can't help how you decorated it. They also... They saw the Queen movie yesterday
Starting point is 01:31:58 and they loved it and they didn't seem to care. Oh, you loved it too? Oh, we never talked about the other mess, but I loved Bohemian Rhapsody. I did not, not like A Star is Born the care oh you loved it too oh we never talked about the other mess but i i loved uh i loved bohemian rhapsody i did not not like a star is born and i was told that i might lose my podcast on the ringer for uh for such blasphemy why didn't you like a star is born i don't know what i don't know i didn't get spellbound by her by her performance it was it was it was a musical
Starting point is 01:32:23 performance it was fine. But as far as acting goes and the story, it was, I don't know. I mean, I don't want to ruin anything, but I was out when she punched the cop in the bar for no reason. What the hell was that? Stupid.
Starting point is 01:32:37 I have a TV show for you. What is it? Bodyguard on Netflix. Oh, I heard about this. Yeah. Or maybe I heard you bragging about it. I tweeted about it, but I highly, highly recommend Bodyguard. Is Lady Gaga in it?
Starting point is 01:32:54 No, she's not. It's really good though. It's only six episodes. It's like six one hour episodes, but it's really good. So last- All right, I'm going to write that down. Last thing before we go on parent corner, my daughter's team won her league today.
Starting point is 01:33:09 They're undefeated. I think they went like 10, Oh, and one for the season to get, we got one more night to try to go and beaten, but nice. Wow. That's great. Incredible,
Starting point is 01:33:16 incredible journey. I was very, very, very excited and touched. 10, Oh, and one. And she had a drive all the way back where she wasn't allowed to eat, right?
Starting point is 01:33:26 Well, no. We stopped. We stopped. You're like the Japanese baseball coach for the Little League World Series. No, we did in and out. I did say I said we had to win by a certain number of goals and we'd stop for ice cream and we did.
Starting point is 01:33:44 That's how I brought my kids. We went for ice cream after. We're the worst. They really should take these kids away. We deserve broken screens and all this stuff. Well, my kid, at least as the growing has finally slowed down, you have like, your kid's like almost a mutant at this point. Every time I see him, he's an inch taller.
Starting point is 01:34:01 What is he like six, one now? He's six feet tall. And I'm like five, eight and�2", and my wife's short. We don't know what happened here. Really crazy. He's complaining that his knees hurt after basketball. He's like, Bill Walton already. It's like, yeah, I'll make.
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