The Bill Simmons Podcast - Tampa Bay's 2020 Takeover, New Gambling Rules, the Hopeless Jets, and Mookie's Moment With Cousin Sal

Episode Date: October 19, 2020

The Ringer's Bill Simmons is joined by Cousin Sal to talk about the L.A. Dodgers winning the NLCS vs. the Atlanta Braves, a Dodgers-Rays World Series, and more. Then they discuss NFL Week 6 games, including the Buccaneers rolling over the Packers, the Patriots losing to the Broncos despite Cam Newton's return, the Titans' overtime win vs. the Texans, the Falcons getting their first win of the season vs. the Vikings, Giants-Washington, and more, before guessing the NFL lines for Week 7. They then close out the show with Parent Corner. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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If you're getting into the election, I would highly recommend the Macari Sellers podcast. He has been crushing it the last few months and he is going to be coming up right after the debate, a live reaction podcast. We also have the Press Box, old friends, Brian Curtis and David Shoemaker. They will be reacting right after the debate as well. So if you can't get enough political coverage, try those two out. Coming up, Sal and I are going to break down week six NFL, look ahead to week seven, talk a little baseball playoffs to first Pearl Jam. All right, Sunday Night Cousin Sal is here.

And we decided to wait to start taping until after a baseball game. Sal, baseball's back. It was too intense. It was too intense. We have, well, Justin Turner was an ex-Met and Mookie Betts was ex-Red Sox. I guess that was enough reason to tune in. But no, it felt like real playoff baseball. You're right.

Couldn't turn it off. It was really good. The games were great all week and then especially this weekend. The two yesterday were great. I couldn't believe how much baseball I watched this weekend. I definitely was expecting it. I sat out this season basically. So I was picking up stuff as I went along. But I mean, I don't know whether we start with the Dodgers or the Braves because yet another devastating Atlanta sports collapse. I saw, I actually power walked with Rembrandt Brown a couple of days ago around LA for three hours. And we were talking about the Braves and it was feeling good. Yeah. And he was like, I just know the other shoe's going to drop.

It's the Atlanta fans are in a dark place. And then on the flip side, the Dodger fans, you know, since 1988 and especially the last 12 years, they're in a dark place too. So it was almost like the baggage series in the Dodgers. You said less baggage, I guess. We talk about that a lot, right? Is it better to be like a Browns fan or a Detroit fan where you just never win or a Dodger fan where you just barely miss getting over the hump

because the team cheated or whatever else happened. But it's going to be a good series. I worry for Kershaw. I've gone through this a million times. I don't think there's an athlete like him in any sport where the postseason numbers. Not even don't match up to the regular season. Pick a basketball player. Like you, could you even pick one that's close?

Like his ERA is double what, what it is. Uh, normally I, I, I mean, there's a smidge of James Harden, but it's not even close. Like he, he doesn't go two for 20. You know what I mean? He doesn't go like four for 24 or something. I see what you're saying, but I don't think anyone's close. When he got knocked out of game four and then the floodgates opened when the reliever came in and they cut to him on the bench

and it was just like basically this Kershaw mannequin from the last nine years of just that kind of shell-shocked, bummed-out look that felt so bad for him. I mean, look, I don't have a dog in this race. I'll end up betting on it. But between Mookie and the Dodger fans I have in my life who I really like, and then the Kershaw piece, it's hard not to root for them.

I know they spend a million kajillion dollars. It's not like they're a Cinderella story or anything. Right, yeah. Yeah, and specifically with Kershaw. I feel as bad as I can for someone who makes $31 million a year. Although that's a pittance, according to, if you follow Dak Prescott's career. So I don't know what they get anymore, $31 million. I think it's a lot.

Well, it was funny watching even today, Dave Roberts, who has a checkered history in these postseason games. And this one, he was kind of pulling the right strings. And even we were texting before the ninth about, would they leave Uris in or not? Would they bring Kenley Jansen in? And I was like, leave him in, leave him in, six straight outs.

But I think Roberts in the old days probably brings Jansen in like this is our guy. Gotta do it. He would have panicked. Yeah. I guess Jensen had a lot of work. He was great, especially the latter part of this week. But I guess he had too much work to just go right to him in the ninth. But he was definitely warming up.

It's going to be great. You watch the Rays more closely than I do because they're in your division. I know you got fantasy guys on that team, but they have not a lot of holes in that lineup, but they're good for three extra foul balls per at bat too, right? They're tough outs all through one through nine. And they have like 20 guys who throw 100 miles an hour. Yeah.

And the Dodgers still have the Kenley thing looming over them, which I know he looked good this week, but they're still, you know. I think the biggest winner was baseball because they were so close to that Rays-Braves World Series that I don't know what would happen. It's shades of almost like the 1995 Stanley Cup, that devil's trap year. Yeah, right.

Where it was like this before-after for where hockey was as a popular sport. I think they really needed Dodgers in there. And Mookie is somebody that should be a bigger star. I mean, I obviously am biased and spent a lot of the last few years watching him. But the guy's just so electric. He's so magnetic.

And he's so great. Every game he was doing one thing, right? And even when he had that hit, it ended up not turning out to anything. But it was like, I knew he was going to get a double. That hit in the gap where most people pull up. And he's just like, of course he is. He's the best base runner, the best outfielder.

He has the best at bats. Speaking of, the Braves might be the worst base runners. And that's maybe why they're, they're going to be watching the world series. But there was, it was exciting. There was everything. It was like plays at the plate.

There was a lot, just had a little of everything. Once the Dodgers got to six games, they did MLB a favor. Obviously they did MLB a favor by going forward. But once there was like two games Friday, like, Oh,

this is going to get, this is going to get good. And it was, I had, I wagered, I had a tompa bay you did dodgers parlay it was like uh two like two 225 you know whatever that percentage was it was higher than two to one yeah and uh i didn't feel good about the dodger game until the

pickle play right and then when mookie robbed that dude for a home run, I was like, alright, if you have a team dramatically fuck up a pickle play and somehow get two outs and then Mookie steals a homer, now I'm operating with an extra three runs. And it just felt like it was better. But then Bellinger hits the go-ahead homer and separates

his shoulder. It seemed like a celebration, right? Yeah. I mean, I think the director might have separated his shoulder. Didn't even go to the ball it's like we're gonna watch bellinger around the bases i know it's probably out but can we see where the ball lands i don't know right it was good i was texting with uh cc and ryan ruko who hosts the r2c2 for us cc's hilarious during these games but i was asking him did they get rid of the code in the bubble? Which CC? Sabathia? CC Sabathia.

You say CC, like everyone... No, I'm kidding. Of course it's CC Sabathia. I was asking him, did they dump the code for the bubble? Because anytime somebody hits a homer now, they're reacting like Manny Ramirez in 2003.

It's seven seconds before they even start running. They're looking at the dugout. They're pointing. And then every time there's a big strikeout in either series, the pitchers doing the wild thing, Charlie Sheen, triple fist pump, scream. And I really like it. I don't know why this can't be baseball.

But CeCe was saying that this is what Dominican winter baseball is like, where it's just like everything is high intensity celebration. Just make this baseball. This would really help if this just was baseball. You know what I missed? And we forgot all about it. I think the pandemic saved the Astros as the villain. It came up a little as they got momentum in these series here. The Astros, I remember we were like, oh, they're going to get plunked like four times a game. They got hit 23 times in the regular season. The Mets got hit 45 times. The Cubs had 52 hit by pitches.

Like the Astros weren't even close. I guess they had seven in the postseason, but it's unbelievable that they were less than half of the top hit-by-pitch leader. Do you think that was because of the Joe Kelly thing that maybe teams were afraid that guys would get suspended? Yeah, I guess, but poor Cubs and Mets. What the hell did they ever do? I'm glad the Mets are getting hit by pitches,

but they didn't have to abide by the Joe Kelly rule, I guess. It didn't take me long to work up a lot of hatred toward the Astros. Even yesterday, I did a Dodgers-Astros parlay with the sole purpose of either I put my stink on the Astros or if they win, at least I win money. But it was like, it's such an easy team to root for. So many garbage can jokes you can make during the games.

Yeah. But, uh, but Tampa is really good. I mean that the, it's just like one guy after another good athletes and, and a lot of power arms. Yeah,

for sure. Yeah. It's pretty good. They start a Tuesday, right? Tuesday. What do you got for a world series line? Well,

I'm looking, I'm, I was just looking there. I'll, you know what? I'll jump in. Uh, if'll jump in if one comes up. It just happens. We'll have one over within the next

probably hour, right? For sure. Speaking of Tampa. Before we do that, I just love Mookie Betts. It really hurts. It hurts, but I'm also happy for him. I feel like

it's like we were married, but we had to break up for reasons that wasn't anyone's fault. And now it's just like, I just want him to be happy. It's a little different than how I feel about Tom Brady. The Mookie thing, he deserves it. He's the most important guy in that team. My team was stupid enough to lowball him initially and never really treat him with the proper respect.

Right. He's just such a great baseball player. All the Dodger fans in my life just continue to go bonkers about him. It's so funny. Who do we do this with? Mookie's okay. You love Mookie. You love Rondo.

But you are not rooting for Tampa to connect with Gronk today. That's for sure. No, I'll tell you this. I can't root against Gronk. Can't root against Gronk. Okay. No to connect with Gronk today. That's for sure. No, I'll tell you this. I can't root against Gronk. Can't root against Gronk. Okay. No, I love Gronk. Balls in his area, you want him to catch it.

Yeah. Tom, I'm betting on Tampa, so I'm not as spiteful. I see. All right. I still feel like he kind of just kind of wanted to get out last year for reasons I don't fully understand. Well, but you now, I don't know how you want to start. We may well start with your team or not, but... No, let's start with the Tampa because...

Okay. Working theory. Mm-hmm. Tampa has become the new Boston. How do you mean? So Brady shows up September 2001, his first start for the Pats. We proceed to rip off two incredible decades. We make 12 titles.

We win 12 titles. We make 17 finals. Every team we have has some sort of iconic version of the team, at least locally, all the way through until he leaves. He shows up at Tampa this spring. They win the Stanley Cup. The Rays make the World Series. And they look like the NFC favorites.

Like, this is fucking weird. Right, right. It is strange. You don't think this is weird? And also, you mentioned 2001. Not to go back to the Patriots. This is the first time in October they don't have a winning record since 2001, right?

Or 2002. It's right in there. There's a lot of weirdness if you if you juggle the numerology you'll just go crazy but i didn't know what to make of that i know you well you had tampa i had green bay so i'm gonna make excuses but i don't want to say the game was fixed but what the hell happened like rogers looked terrible and it wasn't even one of those games where he was really pressured all game he started to to get pressured at the end, but you know, with no Vita Veya and, and, you know, we know Dominic and Sue's on this team and they have some, some players defensively, but

my God, what I felt like they gave him that game. Like it just, it's almost like people talk and say, ah, there's no good teams in the NFC. And they're like, all right, we'll fix that. This isn't your game, Aaron throw pick six and throw another another one that comes close to a pick six. I don't know. I'm a baby when it comes to this, but I don't understand how they got railroaded today. I talked myself into Tampa after hearing Warren Sharpe's theory about how every week the Packers managed to go against a team that didn't have their biggest weapon for the first four weeks.

Cause they had Atlanta. Julio's out. New Orleans. Michael Thomas is out. Detroit. Galladay was out. I heard that too, but Devante Adams has been out all these games too.

So no, without, without the counter, but at least like what we didn't know is whether their defense was any good. And they hadn't really been tested yet, especially the quarterbacks. They played like it wasn't like a murderer's row.

Well, but in the line defense, what was Brady threw for 166, right? Am I wrong? But they didn't really have the ball. Rodgers threw for 130, for 160. I know, but for this quarterback matchup, they combined for like 320 yards. It was sort of disappointing. They didn't have the ball. The key guy was Ronald Jones.

Yeah. He was really good. Where does he come from? We do this every year. Sometimes teams have bad weeks. This game meant more to Tampa. They're at 10 days rest. They're coming off a loss. Green Bay's feeling great about themselves. They haven't lost yet. It wasn't

a must win for them. It was a classic incentive game. It was like that Niners game, which people sniffed out. People were like, that line is six points off. All of us kind of stared at it, and then it went from three and a half. Where did it end game time? It was right around two and a half.

So yeah, you had to buy it up to three. The thing I'll say about Tampa, no penalties. We saw them over 100 yards of penalties last week. We know last year they led the league in penalties. And zero? So you got zero penalties or 20, 25 yards of penalties?

They'll be in every single game. I have liked Tampa's defense this whole year. I like what I've seen. I think at least they've been super frisky every week, and they've had some dominant stretches in games. I don't think they they put it together entirely. I was with you. I thought when they lost the nose tackle,

that would be a bigger factor than it was, but they just, you know, if you're not pressuring Brady, which the Packers didn't, he looked really good today. I got to say it. I I've been pretty hard on him the first four weeks,

but he had time to throw. He was, he was putting the ball all over the place. The only guy who was probably bummed out was Mike Evans. I was going to say, what did he end up at 30 yards or fewer? I don't know what it is. And he's kind of like a decoy at this point, but, um, well, they'll take a win like that every time. But if you were looking at the NFC right now, I, you know, it's going to keep changing depending on who gets injured, who's the COVID case of the week, all that stuff.

But Tampa probably brings the most to the table out of all the NFC teams, I think. So there's three, right? It's Tampa, New Orleans, and Green Bay, and not their version of Green Bay we saw today, right? So it's not, I mean, who else? I think Seattle. I'm sorry.

Seattle out of respect to Russ. Yeah, I don't know why. By the way, you have Russ on. Did you play him any of the old voicemails you used to leave me? The drunk, the hustle and bustle? No, that didn't come up at all? It was great. He said we should go to dinner at some point.

It was wonderful. It was everything I wanted for my first date with Russ. That's great. That is terrific. No, I enjoyed it. I was just wondering if a drunk email was going to pop up or a drunk voicemail. Let's actually, let's take a break and then we'll come back and we'll talk about who the best NFC team is. This episode is brought to you by Prime Video. You know me, I can't go a day

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And House was like, the Bears defense is good. I like them too. And it was kind of planted in the back of my head and watching that game, like they really made things hard for Carolina. That was a legit move. And Carolina did some dumb shit. They were inside the 10 twice.

They ended up getting two field goals. Slide missed a long field goal. Cairo Santos, didn't you have him once? I did once, like three times, I think. Oh, the Cowboys. Oh, yeah. I thought you meant my fantasy team. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He made a 55-yarder, so that was a six-point swing there. And, you know, there's versions of that game where I think Carolina does better. But the Bears team is good. Just forget it. Don't even look at their record. Everyone wants to look at their record and be like, they're not good. I'm betting against them. This is a week.

What was that? There was like a 2-2. I can have Carolina minus two. They can win by a field goal, and I'm going to make money. Where do I sign up? But you and i talk about it and then everybody seemed to be on board with teddy two gloves oh my god yeah he's a savior throw him in the mvp discussion they don't need mccaffrey they got mike davis i was like ah

let's calm down the bears are weird the bears perform like voodoo on you they tom brady forgot how to count to four when he's playing this team. You can't even look at a box score and figure out why Chicago won. Like Foles at 198 with a touchdown and interception. I don't know. Montgomery had 58 yards rushing. The top receiver, I think it was Robinson, with 53 yards. Nothing adds up. And then at the end of the game, they're either winning or losing by three.

And it is, I guess, because of that defense, right? We talk about Mack and Hicks and, and all these guys are all over the place. Uh, every game. It's a really an impressive list of playmakers in that team. Yeah. Like,

didn't you, I said this Thursday, that was the team Le'Veon Bell should have gone to. I actually think if he has anything left in the tank, he really could have helped them. Montgomery's fine. Yeah. They had odds on this. The Bears were the favorite. Pretty substantial favorite.

Like 3-1 odds. The next team was like 5-6 and the Chiefs were right in that 6-50 range. The Bears made most sense. I don't know why some teams shy away from it and some don't. The rookie receiver they have is okay. He can make a catcher too, but it

always seems like Robinson is the only real guy who can actually, like, that third and 11, third and 13 type thing. The rookie tight end they had made a couple of plays today. Cole Kamei. These Notre Dame guys are unbelievable. Between Claypool and Cole Kamei,

they're just monster corn-fed, good good great blockers and great receivers and uh and you're gonna tell me how the Patriots should have had them three rounds earlier I'm just gonna tell you that there would there was some text today about with my dad and with hench about because we passed that guy in the draft and we needed a tight end and we're like why are we passing on that guy and then they're like no no we got some later and we picked two guys who don't play. Like they literally, I haven't seen them make one catch.

Right. So yeah, that's a bummer. It's rough for you guys. Well, we'll discuss it when you want to talk. I feel bad. My team's in first place, regardless of what happens tomorrow night. And yours might be the third best in the AFC East. Let's keep talking about the NFC.

I'm not ready to talk about my team yet. I don't know who the best team is. I know everybody's saying, oh, there's five better, almost maybe five better AFC East teams than the best NFC East team. I don't know if I'm ready to say that. I don't know if the Chiefs are better than the Packers. I don't agree with that. I know they beat the Ravens, but the Packers,

this was not the Packers that we're going to see the rest of the year. Brayton is in a good spot. Yeah. I mean, if you're just talking about, was it a good football decision to leave New England and go to Tampa? The answer was yes. For sure. Regardless of the Belichickick is a better coach than

Bruce Arians, although it certainly didn't seem like it today. But the Pats, the last couple drafts have just been bad. And Hench and I were texting about, I would say the last two drafts, how many impact receivers have been in the last two drafts? Feels like at least 12, right?

All the dudes this year, that guy Jefferson on Minnesota is unbelievable. Really good guy. Really good guy to keep on your bench with 43.7 points. Oh, my God. Does that happen to you? It did happen to me, yes. We had Metcalf and Debo and McLaurin.

You go on and on. There was at least 12, 13 guys. And then there's been a bunch of good tight ends, too, that were in the last two drafts. And the Pats just didn't get any of them. It's just rough because you watch the game today and Cam wasn't right. And you're thinking like, all right, who are playmakers?

He's throwing to Ryan Izzo. He's throwing to all these random wide receivers. Jules looks like he's on his last legs. And then they have five mediocre running backs that they're just platooning. And the only time it was exciting at all was when Cam was scrambling. Yeah, for sure. The under Edelman one and a half pass attempts should hit every game, right? He shouldn't throw the ball twice when you have to go to the gimmick twice to stretch the field. Cause no one's getting open downfield. I felt bad. I actually did feel bad. I was like, oh my God, they have to do this. They have to try

these gimmick plays to stay in this game. And it didn't work. It almost did. It just came up short, but Broncos give them a little credit. That's a frisky defense. It's a very weird. This is big for you. That Broncos thing. I know. Right. Of course, as soon as I have the Patriots on every Moneyline parlay, the Broncos bite me in the ass. But with Chubb, Justin Simmons, all these guys, Kareem Jackson, they play hard every snap. And then you were good because, and I was talking to my past friends about this, it wasn't like a fluky game. Like, they were actually just better.

And every, they were better offensively, they were better defensively, they had better pass rush, they were better, their secondary covered better. Right. Special teams was better.

They, we got outcoached. Belichick had a couple massive brain farts in that game, too. Like, there was one play, he declined the penalty

that would knock the, and it's like, damn McManus, he's good from 58. What are you doing? And McManus got that field goal. It went to 18 to three, which was like significant. And then you're out of it. I just don't think you'll ever lose to a quarterback again, who was 10 for 24.

That's what he was locked. And he had two interceptions, right? It's an embarrassing loss. They have no Melvin Gordon who had a really, you know, a newsworthy week. He had a DUI. Then he had a strep throat.

Fant doesn't play. And it's just like, that's a team the Patriots defense should have chewed up. And the Broncos were able to move the ball and they needed to. Yeah, Lindsey broke out over a hundred. I'm worried that the Pats might not be that good,

but I'm not going to go there yet because I will say this. I think we're learning that having COVID and then just coming back and playing whatever the sport is, is a bad idea because it's not just that you're not playing for those two weeks, three weeks, whatever, but you're not like working out or doing anything. So you're not playing for those two weeks, three weeks, whatever, but you're not working out or doing anything. You're like the guy who gets the new treadmill on December

25th and the next day is on the treadmill like, oh my god, I just want to kill myself. Kane was bad today. He had 10 throws that had no chance where he was two yards off, up, two years up grounders like he

was awful short-armed everything i would agree with you if not for the effing tennessee titans like how are they doing it their facility was closed 12 out of 14 days theoretically they're not practicing and they come but it wasn't any of their key guys though it wasn't like derrick henry had covet right it's like their best guys didn't have it. So you, but what about practice though? Does it matter or not? Does it just, I don't, I don't, I don't get it. Do we think Tennessee wasn't practicing? I think they were practicing. I like, I want to blow the whistle on these teams. They should have two forfeits. Instead, they looked like the best in the league and got so lucky. And we had the Texans. I know I had the Texans plus four and to lose that game

in overtime by six, you gotta be kidding me. I don't know if you're ready to move on from Patriots, but Oh, I'm ready to move on from the Patriots. Yeah. I had, uh, I had four gambling rules that I'm just going to add.

I don't know if this is permanent for just for 2020. Don't bet on a QB who just had COVID. That's one. Just mark that one down for future reference. Um, when in doubt, bet against the jets and bet against an injured baker mayfield those are two good things maybe even parlay them together right um and then never ever think romeo cronell could win two straight games good lord what all

right so i know we argued about this last week when minnesota went for it on fourth and a half a yard you thought they should kick the field goal went for it on fourth and a half a yard. You thought they should kick the field goal to go up eight. I think a half a yard is much different than two and a half yards, especially when Minnesota was running against them. I knew the Texans weren't going to. I get the analytics, and I argue with Todd Furman all the time about this. I get this, except for it never seems to work out. In theory, I guess in a vacuum, this go for the kill and go up by nine is the better way to go.

But it doesn't pass the eye test when Cornell's holding up two, right? You're like, oh, that's the wrong thing. I haven't even done the math yet, but I know that's the wrong thing. Whatever he's doing. Go up. When he's holding up two, it should be, I have to take a number two. Can we stop the game? I'm 73 years old should be i have to take a number two can we stop the game i'm 73 years old two i've got to do a number two that's it peace i'm out i'm gonna go shit i had i had no dog in this race i did not bet on the game oh i thought you had the texans you were

uh okay no i i stayed away last second because i just couldn't put money on romeo cornell to cover two straight weeks. That was the dumbest non-cover I think I've ever seen in my life. First of all, this is another thing. I don't know if this is a gaming rule or what, but all the smart math that's come into football, but is now being used by coaches who are trying to seem like it makes them smarter to do it. And it's like, you're losing the feel of the game. If you actually watch the Houston Texan game, Houston was having a lot of trouble in those short yardage.

Like they were always, it was always like fighting for any third and one, fourth and one, whatever. Right. And just the flow of the game, it didn't feel right. That's it. You have to take that into account. You must take it into account. It was so tough for them to move the ball.

Right. I'm with you. I hate this Titans team. I don't know what's going on with it. I hate how good Tannehill is, and he is good. He's good. He's a top 10 quarterback now. He might be top eight now.

If Rodgers had done what Tannehill did on that, I'm going to go up to spike it. No, no, I'm going to run back and throw it into the corner for A.J. Brown. That play was brilliant. And if Rodgers did that, the announcers would have just jerked each other off. They'd never stop. They'd have been like, that's it. Put your pants down. We've got to take turns on each other. That was

unbelievable. Let's have a jerk party. What Tannehill does is like, oh, smart play by Tannehill. That play was fucking brilliant. Dan Marino did that how many years ago? We're still talking about it. Well, because everyone's in love with Derrick Henry too. So we're looking forward to the extra two-pointer version, which actually did

go to Henry, right? Lined up in the quarterback position and the freaking defenders treated him like he was going to throw the ball. He had free reign to run. You're talking about the game-winning touchdown. Right. So for the people listening at home, Texas is getting four. They score a touchdown to go up seven.

And there's how much time was left? 80 seconds. Yeah. Like a minute 20. Yeah. And at that point you're writing, you're, you're,

you're writing it in except for Romeo, Cornell's and Bob, you have to at least be a little careful and the Texans get, get it to OT. I want to go up eight there. I agree with you. I want to go up eight there. I didn't want to go up eight with Minnesota. I don't know why it's, it's game to OT. I want to go up eight there. I agree with you. I want to go up eight there. I didn't want to go up eight with Minnesota. I don't know

why. It's game to game. I think it's just a feel for it. Up eight, Tannehill, great. God bless him if he could drive the field one time out and then get the two-point and then you go to overtime. There was no doubt the Titans were winning by a touchdown when they won

the toss, right? I thought it was going to be the A.J. Brown 70-yarder or the Derrick Henry 75-yard run. It was much more painful. Yeah. Because when they went to Henry in the shotgun, that play usually doesn't work. Yeah.

I actually don't like that play because then the defense is just like, oh, cool, and put everybody up. I swear to God, they thought he was going to throw it, and they were terrified that he was going to throw it and forgot to tackle him. I don't know what happened there. I got to say, Henry somehow was underrated heading into this year, and even in fantasy, like in our keeper

league, he wasn't one of the top five running backs. I know it's a weird thing with him because the word gets out, oh, he doesn't heat up until November or something, but he doesn't care about that shit. He's just throwing guys around all year, first six weeks. I feel like he's bigger.

Yeah. It's like Sly Stallone, Rocky III to Rocky IV. Something's different. We're going to talk about that. Something feels bigger about this dude but yeah he looks he's in the mvp conversation now i think i guess so it's really hard for for a running back these days but um but no but other than wilson i don't think any qb has separated from the pack i liked rogers before today he had 13 touchdowns and no interceptions. The last two guys that did that through four games won the

MVP. Rodgers was bad. He was really bad. Those two picks were awful. I didn't get it. I honestly thought he was just keeping them in the game. Because, of course, it was the only freaking game other than the Dolphins-Jets. We could talk about that forever.

Let's just talk about it now. That was like mail us a shit next time. Yeah. Why do they hate us so much? The NFL. Why do we have nine games? And I know you, you had your eye on the Colts Bengals.

God bless you for not betting it. If you're telling the truth, but that was the one game direct TV didn't show in the eight box was the Colts Bengals. So I didn't pay attention. I didn't have money on it. You didn't have money on it. And it ended up being like the one game DirecTV didn't show in the eight box was the Colts-Bengals. So I didn't pay attention. I didn't have money on it. You didn't have money on it. And it ended up being like the best game.

And instead, we have two games. And then as a result, we have two games in the late afternoon. I had a tiny teaser with Washington and Cincy parlay money line. It was like nine to one. I was in it. Yeah, it was fun. I got my Oh, yeah. Yeah. It was fun. I got my booty's worth. The Colts have to screw you anyway.

Anyway. Well, the Bengals mixing got hurt. That's why that's why they stopped scoring. Because once that happened, then I have an offensive line. They didn't have a good backup running back. But Rivers, I don't care. Everyone hates him. I feel vindicated by the don't put Phil Rivers in a tease rule.

Because if you had a tease in that one, you're going nuts. I was texting you in-house. I thought that was going to be his final quarter, the second quarter. Yeah. I thought Percet came in for the second half. It was over. We never see Phil Rivers again. It's funny.

I have you texting me, don't you dare put Phil Rivers in a teaser. I have my other buddies, the Jenner trifecta, texting me, don't you dare put Phil Rivers in the Hall of Fame. This will be disgusting. Everyone hates on Phil Rivers. And then he ended up having good stats. He was like 29 for 44. He had like 370 yards or something.

I think these old QBs, if there's no pass rush, they can still look good. The problem is when they're pressured. That's what changes, I think, when you hit your late 30s, early 40s. And I really want to see if Tampa can do this against a team that has a good pass rush, that's, that's when I might believe, but yeah, the Romeo thing,

it just didn't seem right. I just, I know. I don't care what the numbers, the math, the math has gone too far because it's, Oh, the percentage said it's like,

well, we're all watching the game. The game has a certain flow to it. All of us are watching this going, Houston's probably not getting this, right? percentage. It's like, well, we're all watching the game. The game has a certain flow to it. All of us are watching this going, Houston's probably not getting this. It's going to end up being the same Deshaun play that they just scored the touchdown on, but now they're running it again. And that was exactly the play that they tried to run, but that was weird. Let's take a break and then I have one more thing for you. Which fan base is most worried about their QB?

I'm going to give you the following choices. Can I raise my hand? Minnesota, Cleveland, New England, Philly. Out of those four, who's the most concerned? This year? Right now. Right now, this moment. Listening. Those fans are listening to this podcast right now and they're going, me, me. I'm the most concerned. I would say Minnesota because I feel like the Cousins thing is very close to ending. Yeah. Well, here's the thing I'll say. Let's make an agreement to

never ever say that Cousins or Goff, let's just take those two because they're the same guy. Cousins and Goff, they're back for good. And let's also not say they're done because it really just depends how your money is put on those guys, right? If you're going to bet Goff, he's probably going to buzz you right in the ass almost 80% of the time. Same with Cousins. But Cousins seems like he's not trying when he puts up these terrible numbers, right? Like, you want to punch him in the face.

Yeah, he... There's a weird vibe with him when things don't go well. Yeah. And I can only imagine what it would be like to be a teammate. But again, I'm going to say this every week. It's hard for me to believe Jameis can't play for one of these teams we're watching. It really is.

There's 12 teams that I feel like at least it would be a little more fun if he was on the team. Like, when you watch Cleveland, I know Mayfield was probably hurt this week. Who knows how much, but they had no chance in that game. He was completely useless.

Right. And it's hard for me to believe that Jameis can't at least be a backup. But he's on a team though. It's not, you make it like he's not. He's a third stringer. Like,

there's 12 guys starting. He'll be all right. He'll play this year. He's going to play. The Minnesota thing, it feels like that's coming to a head. I don't know what they do. Because if anything,

Cousins, if you, if you're thrown away the season, Cousins is just good enough that you're not going to get a good draft pick. Right. So you do the thing where you just like release them or you keep your fingers crossed,

hope it works out. I mean, you say it's just good enough, but they're one in five now, right? They could lose. They could lose 10 games, can't they? I guess. And then the Philly thing, Wentz has this moment every game

where you start thinking like, wow, I wouldn't be shocked if Jalen Hurts just came into the game right now. Yeah. And then Wentz will rally and then all of a sudden he looks good. He takes incredible punishment. Every game he gets the shit kicked out of him.

And the team never dies. He's always fighting back. But I'm never impressed as I'm watching it. Are you? Right, no. It's like you dug this crazy hole. Why should this even be? You're just screwing with our teasers right now.

That's all you're doing. But they might be in trouble now. Sanders has a bad knee, right? That's what they say with him. And Zach Ertz has bad ankle problems. Those guys out, you're not going to see the 30 point games anymore. Wentz is like the guy on the road trip who insisted on driving and gets

lost. Yeah. Right. And then it's like, Jesus, we're going to be five hours late. It's like, I got this.

And then all of a sudden pull some crazy move. And then all of a sudden you're going to 85 on some side street. And it's like, you may pull this off. Your cousin, Jimmy. That's who that is. And then you crash.

Washed watch. I'm just going to do this every week now. Oh, yeah. We got Brady. It's like a two out of 10 this week. He looked pretty good. He threw some nice touch passes. It was good.

It was good. I got to say, his hair has never looked darker or better. Do you see in the sidelines? He's grown in the back a little bit now. It was good. I got to say, his hair has never looked darker or better. Do you see on the sidelines? He's grown in the back a little bit now. Yeah, right. Really nice, full head of hair. Oh, he said hi. He said he hugged and kissed everybody after that game, too.

He did. He did the rounds. About 20 minutes on the field. Yeah, he probably intentionally gave himself COVID in June to get it over with. You think so? So he'd be ready for the season. I'm just bagging this out now. He put that in a celery shake or

something? Yeah. I still have Rivers at an 8 out of 10. It'll never go lower than 8 to me. Flacco, I have as a 15 out of 10. I don't know if you saw any of that Jets game. Flacco, I was thinking about it. I think he could score four out of

100 drives. I think I could score zero. And I think you and I would score zero. Tebow's probably two. Flacco's four. Flacco, never any confidence. It's not all his fault it's flacco it's gore that team's a disaster they're cutting away to the gm douglas every every 35 seconds so um the gaze before or after the election well at this point gaze is their biggest asset if you're really trying to go oh and 16 right right yeah i guess so. They haven't covered yet this year, which is... 0-6. Unbelievable. Yeah, any team can go 0-6. But when you go 0-6 against the spread,

as people are adjusting the lines to account for your competence, and you're still crushing covers every week, or non-covers. Pretty impressive. As we know, what's the worst anyone's done? Like 3-13? I think so. Well, the Texans were 0-6 in 2000. There hasn't been a team to do this since 2013, I don't think.

It's funny because nobody wants to put Ryan Fitzpatrick in a tease even though he's sitting there. I certainly did and I looked at it. Well, you should. The second best team in the AFC East, you should. Yours being third. You love this.

Both of our teams are fucked. Oh, let's talk about, but we're going to guess the lines in a second. The Monday Night Football, we have two games, including your team. I love your team this week. I already have my bets in. The line seems to be moving,

which makes me nervous. Why are you doing that? You talked about Phil Rivers and quarterbacks that could do fine when there's no pressure. Andy Dalton is exactly what you're describing there. We have to see. Great. Arizona has no pressure. They don't have Chandler Jones.

They didn't have a good defense anyway. We're meeting him at the right time, I would say, but I do worry this offensive line is not good. We're moving guys around who've never played center, even in high school. So I guess he took first-team snaps this week, so that's good. He also has three awesome receivers. Sure.

And he has Zeke Elliott. Right. Well, I don't know. And that's just that side of the ball. Kyle O'Murray is going to run all over the place. I don't know what his over-under rushing yards are, but lean over. I think you're being too pessimistic. If Dallas, if Dak was playing this week and didn't have an ankle that was broken in half,

you would be four point favorites. Yeah. I sense that you think there's not a big difference between Dak and Dalton. I just don't think it's a six point difference. Do you? No. You think it's worth six points to go from Dak to Dalton? What is it now? Wait.

Is it six? I didn't even think about it. Initially, it was. Initially, Arizona was favored by two. And then now there's been Dallas, actually. Right. Okay. I don't understand that. I don't love it. I'm sorry. The other game's good. Chiefs-Bills. With Buffalo, it's interesting

because we got to see Tennessee. And I know they won, but they didn't look great. And Houston really was able to move the ball on them, make some big plays. And it made me kind of even more skeptical of Buffalo. And then you think, like, the Rams should have beaten them. The Rams are terrible tonight. And I know, like, we know this every year. That's one of the reasons, like, the Niners, like, the motivation thing.

This was a kitchen sink. We have to win this Niners game. So not totally surprised to beat the Rams. But with the Bills, I don't feel like this is a kitchen sink game for them. It's just a big game. They're playing the Chiefs. For the Chiefs,

they haven't played a great game yet. They haven't played... The Ravens game was pretty good. Oh, yeah. Nothing happened the second half, but they did their damage when they needed to in the first half. Yeah, you're right. I'm just thinking

where everybody's been unlocked. They haven't unlocked Clyde yet. He had like 10 touches last game or something. I don't totally trust their offensivede yet. Right. Yeah, he had like 10 touches last game or something. I don't totally trust their offensive line yet. I don't know. I'm still not sold that they look

like the same team of last year. I'm with you. I think that's a safer bet. The Chiefs' money line. But yeah, that's a good game because neither team wants to lose two in a row. But I think much like the Cowboys, the Bills are looking at that division and be like, we don't have to do a ton to win this thing. No offense,

but it's a bigger game for the Chiefs, I think. The Diggs trade, which everybody loved and everybody was raving about Diggs the first month, but wasn't Jefferson the guy that they picked with the Diggs picked? Yeah. With that pick? Yeah.

That was the end of the first round. Yeah. That's what they got. Right. It would kind of be more fun if they had Jefferson and he was like 22 with Josh out. Yeah. Right.

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first touchdown at around 9-1 odds. So if you get him just any touchdown in the Chiefs, I like the way that match works. No, it's the first touchdown. He's plus 600. Is it? But with the Chiefs' mining line, it's like 9-1. Yeah. Oh, I see what you're doing. Oh, it is the first touchdown. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Alright. That's

good. I'll take that. Because at some point, they gotta unlock him, right? Because I don't think any of us have been blown away by the first five Clyde games on the Chiefs. Mahomes has scored the first touchdown twice, like rushing, and that gets like 18 to one or something. But

yeah, I like your thing. Yeah, bust him up by the goal line. All right. Thursday night. We'll see what happens tomorrow. Those are two really good games tomorrow. Yeah. Thank really good games tomorrow. Yeah. Thank you for all the COVID Tennessee Titans. Now we got two Monday games.

Everything's still screwed up. Yeah, it just feels like so every week we're going to have. It's going to be a dumping ground Monday night football potentially Tuesday. Yeah. Thursday night Eagles Giants.

This is in Philly. Yeah. I can't say Eagles Giants this is in Philly I can't say the Giants look good today from the pieces I saw they got a big play from their defense which certainly helped them Daniel Jones continues to make one like truly horrific play a game this time it was an interception

in the end zone was just got off all that. Even a field goal probably would have put that game away. Of course, they don't cover. They win and don't cover. They kill you in every pool. They should win. Daniel Jones is weird. I think he had 75, 74 yards rushing.

He always does one good thing and then one terrible thing. I don't know. I like to see him. I don't know what we're thinking if he's ever going to put a great game together but i'd love to see it well he probably murdered their trevor lawrence chances today yep you'd think right that was gonna be it i love that idea of the jets and giants splitting trevor lawrence he's a met life lifer it's not gonna happen we're not out of our jacksonville bet No, they've quiet. They've quietly fallen to one in five for worst team in the league. So how many have one or zero Cincinnati?

Cincinnati is one, four and one Jacksonville and Houston, one in five chargers, one in four giants. Oh, a lot of Minnesota, Minnesota too. Oh,

there's a lot of giants, Washington, Minnesota, Atlanta. Yeah. Oh man. It's like eight teams there. Active sweepstakes.

Everybody wants Trevor Lawrence. I have the Eagles favored by six over the Giants. All right, we split it. It is five and a half. I said five. I want to put them on a teaser. I think this is where they make their move. Isn't it?

I know they have these injuries offensively, but they're going to lose this whole game. They're really banged up. Yeah. I don't remember a football season with this many injuries slash guys up in the air not knowing who's going to play. It's so hard to keep track of. It's 32 teams.

I can barely remember my kids' names at this point. How relieved were you when you woke up this morning and found out that every game was gonna scheduled was gonna play it was great i went made coffee came back laid in bed with my wife my dogs watched the episode of yellowstone it was a great morning there is nothing new 200 fantasy switches i have to tell you you're you're running this league this fantasy league and to see you a quarter of a billionaire scrambling to make everybody's needs everyone's dumb fantasy need covid related fantasy needs from your stupid college buddies and me included i'm i'm in there i'm an idiot too and you're just like scrambling

around trying to make everyone happy. You must be like, what the fuck is going on here? How did this happen? It's great. It was all right this morning though. Sunday marquee game. Titan Steelers. Yeah, that's the one.

It's in Tennessee. I think there's fans there, right? If it's in Tennessee, everybody probably already has COVID there. Yeah. Except for clay. Travis clay goes to every game. He was there today too. Yeah.

Was he? Oh yeah. So we're in a mask. I doubt it. Not in the pictures. Uh, he was forwarding us. I was like,

just celebrate the win. Hug everybody in the stadium. Really do it. I have a, I think this is a three pointer. I have Titans by three over the Steelers. You know, I had that too. I have, I think this is a three-pointer. I have Titans by three over the Steelers. You know, I had that too. You know who doesn't believe in the Titans?

Who? Vegas and Fandle. Steelers plus, Steelers minus one and a half. Oof. Well, they lost their best dude on defense today. Yeah. Yeah, it's not good. Devin Bush.

I mean, by far their best dude. I don't know. You think? I mean, TJ Watts on every play. Minka Fitzpatrick seems to pick a ball every other week. He's like the leader of the thing. Calls all the plays. I know.

I know. He can do the run. He can catch people. He can defend people coming out of the backfield. I don't know. They are loaded, Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh and Baltimore. How do they have good defenses every single year

for like decades? And the Mika Fitzpatrick trade was really good. That guy's really good. He's always around plays. They killed the Browns. He salivates when he plays a guy like Baker Mayfield. The guy like Mika Fitzpatrick. He's like, this is my day.

I still can't believe that line. Why it was so low, right? It scared me away. I would have lied. I was like, this should be six. It seems so fishy. I bought the minus 130 just to get it to three so I didn't get screwed on the last second garbage time touchdown.

But I was really confident in that. Never had to worry. That was a great pick. I don't get the brands. Jim Nantz said Baker's slow to get up about 350,000 times today. It's weird how the announcers

are just afraid to say that he's not that good. When they put him in space, it's like they're talking about the coach's kid to the coach. Right. No, no, you know, when they put him in space, it's like they're talking about the coach's kid to the coach. Right, right, right. It's like, no, no, Jimmy's good. Yeah, you know, you put him in space, he can make some stuff happen.

I think they want people to not tune out. By the way, that is the reason that people want to know about why there were two late afternoon games. Every once in a while, the NFL does this. They'll have one game where they want everybody to watch, right? So that they could flex their muscles and say, Hey,

this rated so high. I don't know if you got that out of this game with the quarterbacks being just so, so, but that's, that is the reason why only the jets dolphins was the competitor for Tampa greenback. Well,

there was another amazing piece to it. Speaking of flexing their muscles, they made Joe Buck. Joe Buck could have called a game seven. That was awesome with the Dodgers. And instead ofing their muscles, they made Joe Buck. Joe Buck could have called a game seven. That was awesome with the Dodgers. And instead of like, no, no, Joe, you're going to be announcing this random week six game that probably has no playoff implications at all. Right. We're going to have to do this instead. It's a bigger rating. So that some imposter Joe Buck showed up for game seven and Joe Buck's doing this football game. That's over in an hour.

Right. You know, it's just that I thought that was weird. The other thing Fox did this year, these, these cartoons of the guys. I know. Yeah.

And none of them look like the guys and they're all like much, much more muscular. It's like all the guys are on major steroids. I'll look into it, but yeah, I wonder if you have to pay extra, if they look anything like the person you're trying to replicate. Can they make

cartoons of us? Can that be fucking huge? I think so. Yeah. All right. The watchables. I got three games. Saints Panthers. It's in New Orleans. And I think I still kind of believe in this Carolina team

as at least a possible playoff team. I really don't think there's much of a difference with them and the Saints. They actually kind of remind me of each other in some ways. Saints I have only because I think people really overrate them a little bit. I have Saints by six. All right, I said seven. It's up to seven and a half. Yeah.

This would have been much more interesting. Yeah, if they were four and two against the three and two Saints, we get one more week without McCaffrey. I know people don't think it doesn't matter, but I think there's one more. No, it matters. Yeah. Mike Davis is good, but it would be nice if more. No, it matters. Yeah. Mike Davis is good,

but it, you know, it would be nice if they also had McCaffrey. 80-yard run every now and then. Yeah. I think Michael Thomas, Michael Thomas is on pace to play in this game unless he punches somebody. Check with a parole officer.

There were weird stories about him. Why is nobody even supposed to be near each other? Why the starting fight so i don't get it apparently he's an intense guy um he's like one of those guys and they talked to him during the off season about hey man you know we're on a big team here like when you act certain ways it affects the team kind of sounded like they were talking about our friend Brad. It's like, hey, Brad, come on, man. Sounds like some of our parent corners.

But it was going great, and then it all fell apart when he punched the D-back on the other team, who's apparently also chippy. Yeah, right. Yeah, whole thing was weird. We didn't get to talk about that Tampa

New Orleans game, but i'm sorry not uh chargers new orleans game that was excellent who's your favorite team that's not your favorite team i mean how about this what was my favorite bet that i lost at the last second this year because i have seven nominees i i can't believe i didn't have the chargers the chargers were one of them is that what what you're going to say? I had the Chargers and the Vikings money lines last week. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

All right. So here's what I'm thinking, though. But that's a different thing. Like, your favorite team that's not your favorite team has to be a team that you just like to watch and don't have money on. Like, I feel like you should have that separate. Like, I don't care if the Chargers win or lose. You know?

I just like watching Justin Herbert, and I like watching their defense, and they're fun. So if I could keep that separate, it's hard, but if I could keep the betting separate from my second favorite team, it's the Chargers. This is a really good game. I want to make sure I answered this correctly. Don't fuck this up.

Chargers are a candidate. Neither New York team is a candidate. Colts not a candidate anymore. I would say Chargers won. Carolina would be backup, but Seattle doesn't count, right?

Seattle's too good. You're back in love with Russell again. You could say Cincinnati. No, because I am always worried Burrow's going to get killed. Herbert! The Chargers are always exciting because if they're winning, they might screw up

because of some shaky coaching thing or a dumb play or something. If they're behind, I always feel like they're going to score. I want to try not to bet them. I want to try not to bet them so I want to try not to bet them so I could just watch them and just enjoy them. It's almost like you want to just have

a platonic friendship with somebody over having the sex ruin it. Well, you know why? Because every year I pick up another team that I hate, and this year it's the Titans. I might have picked up three teams. Oh, I have to split Tampa and New England because they're not on the same team now. I need teams that I like

too, and that's going to be my new mission. Do you hate Brady because he won all the Super Bowls or because he cost you so much money over the years? Or both? Does it have to be one? Yeah, no, it's both. It's mostly because you like him so much, but now you don't like

him, so I don't know what to think by the way russell wilson was the judge of our argument last week about whether minnesota should have gone for the two point or not what did he say he said he said he thought they should try to end it because if they didn't end it he was gonna come down and score so you're right right yeah judge russ next game i think that line's too high. I mean, for two reasons. One, the Panthers could absolutely win the game.

And two, even if they're down 14 with two minutes left, they can get a cheap touchdown. They got receivers that can make plays. Still no fans in that building. I'm always confused as to, yeah, that's,

that's high then I guess. That, that has the potential for a tease that could fuck over a lot of people next watchables Packers at Houston I have this as a watchable just because I really enjoy Romeo with the mask on

it's like a new gimmick it's like a superhero now I would always enjoy betting against him over the years and him with the mask on is really great. He also seems like a great guy. I know we're making fun of him. Yeah.

He just hasn't been a successful head coach. Right. It's a nice thing to have in your back pocket. Great guy. Cost me $1,500. Terrific guy. This one, Packers, you know, coming off an embarrassing loss. Got a little Aaron Rodgers versus Deshaun.

Is it strange Deshaun season? This was the first a little Aaron Rodgers versus Deshaun. Strange Deshaun season. This was the first game he kind of looked like Deshaun. I have the Packers by three at Houston. Hey, you got that. I don't know why I went higher. It is three. Exactly. I said five and a half.

I just, I don't know. I look at four and one versus one and five. Texans might be used to losing but um do we even need say like the texans needed more at this point at what point do you write them off we're not crossing them off there's too many one win teams but yeah i don't know nine and seven could still make it yeah i guess so the problem for them is their defense is terrible right like yeah they just can't stop anybody so i don't know what i read about their run defense after i made the bet and i'm like oh shit derrick henry's just gonna go crazy but you know you like seeing them like

when fuller stretches the field and just like running a straight line just outruns everybody like yeah that's you should see that more from this stage. But you figure Fuller or Cooks, one of them won't make it to three weeks from now with some sort of something. True. So those guys have trouble being healthy. The only other watchable game I have, just because it's Russell versus Kyler Murray,

is Seahawks cards. I also think, unless the Seahawks are playing somebody terrible, I think they have to be either watchable or barely watchable. Sure. I have the Seahawks by three and a half in that one. I think there's a little cheating going on.

It is three and a half. I went higher. I said five and a half. I thought Cardinals short week. I don't know. You just can't bet against them anymore. Three and a half, really? If your guy beats,

if your guy, the red-headed rifle, what's his, the red rifle? Red rifle. Red- your guy beats the red-headed rifle, what's his? The red rifle? Red rifle. Red-headed rifle. The red-headed rifle. If he sticks it to the cards Monday night, that line goes to Seahawks by six. So if you think Dallas is going to win, you're almost better off parlaying Dallas

with Seahawks minus three and a half because that line will go up to at least five. It should go up. I don't know. Seahawks coming off a bye half because that line will go up to at least five. It should go up. I don't know. Seahawks coming off a bye. Cardinals short week. Not as good. We have a lot of games left. Most of them are bad.

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like 32 to 29. Chris Myers gets this game. Chris Myers. No question. Have some coffee before, maybe at halftime to get ready for the fourth. And something terrible

happened in the last 30 seconds. I have the Falcons at home by two and a half over the lines. We split it. I said three and a half. It is three. There's no way these teams haven't played four times this year against each other.

I refuse to believe it. They should just switch uniforms and just continue the season in different cities. Run a scrimmage. Next barely watchable, Browns-Bengals. We've seen this game. It was actually semi-fun. It's in Cincinnati.

I think the Browns will be favored by three, and I kind of like the Bengals. We split this also. It's three and a half. I said four. You say barely watchable, huh? I think it's watchable. Really? I don't know. Well well it depends how the injuries shake out right

if we're seeing Case Kingdom it's not watchable anymore would you be able to tell between Case Kingdom and Baker Mayfield because I would not I guess the uniform number would help the announcer says Case slow to get up I don't know Cowboys at Washington.

God only knows where this line is going to go after tomorrow night. I'm going to say Cowboys by five. I went too high here. I said six. It's four. I don't know what you do at Washington. They won a month ago, and everybody's like, yeah, no, they're still good. They're still frisky.

I don't know. They lose by double digits almost every week. And today, they've been down 14 or more in every single game, even the game they won. The Haskins thing is tough. That seems like a complete whiff. That's tough. He was like the 15th pick.

They must really hate him, and he must be like, what the hell is going on? Kyle Allen, Alex Smith. Well, he was unplayable, though. He was so bad. Right. I don't know. What do you do if you're Ron Rivera? It's like, I can't play this guy who can't play football.

Yeah, that's true. Well, he seems to be okay with the other 21 guys he has that can't play football. No, I don't know. It's a tough call for them do uh i know people get mad at me for this but comeback player of the year alex smith was minus 400 like midweek oh my god i don't know i know it's great it's a great story but big ben makes the playoffs. Cam makes the playoffs. I got to say,

my pick would be Gostkowski. That guy was in a coffin week one. Has anybody ever won it just for their performance in a year? He did. What did he have? Three straight games with 50-odders to win, right?

He missed three field goals in a PAT. That was fun. Not only did it seem like he was going to be waived, it seemed like he was just going to go on a boat and we would never see him again. And now he's like money. We joked about that.

He was 60 to 1 to start the season. You'd probably get him around the same. But I don't know. I don't give it to Alex Smith right away. Yeah, I agree. Chiefs, Broncos. This is in Denver. And again, I'm just warning you, America.

The Broncos are pretty good. They're not a bad football team. I was impressed. I thought they did a nice job. I thought up until the last five minutes when Fanny Pack Fangio got involved or his coordinator or whatever and Locke's throwing it downfield,

all they have to do is just run the ball. We're not moving the ball. Just run the ball, kill clock, punt, and you're going to win because we can't do anything. We have Julian Edelman throwing multiple passes in the same game. When he threw the pass in the Baltimore playoff game like six years ago, it was like the first time they'd

ever had him throw the ball. And they had to throw twice today. That's how desperate we are. Fucking A. This is a different game. today. That's what I said. He should never throw. Well, but Drew, this is a different game. Drew Locke's not going to be able to go 10 for 24 and stay close, right? But he might not have been healthy still, though, right? He's coming back.

Yeah. He wasn't even going to play a week ago. What do you have for this one? I have the Chiefs by 7.5. Oh, man. Edging me out here. I said 7. It's 8.5.

See, that looks like a classic teaser, and I'm afraid of it. Why can't I beat you in this shit? It's eight, five. We have four games left. Five games. I'm winning, right? Yeah. Well, here's one I think we should think about teasing is the Chargers at home against the

Jaguars. I have the Chargers by six. the Jaguars. I have the Chargers by six. I said six also. It's eight. No, we're not betting the Chargers. We're just going to root for it. We're just going to watch them and enjoy. It's your platonic team. That's it. It's my platonic

team. I'm just going to read you the last couple of Jags games after they started out the season well. They beat Indy. Lose to Tennessee by three. Almost won. Killed by Miami by 18. Lose to Cincy by eight.

They lose to Houston by 16. They lose to Detroit by 18. The Jaguars are who we thought they were. They threw us off the scent that first week. They stink. They and Washington team, right? They're like people still hanging on for hope with them.

Even at least like Washington almost won today. Right? They lost by one. Yeah, Detroit killed Jacksonville. You're right. I like Jacksonville today. I think I might be done with them for a while. Chargers. Watch out for the tees. All right. Next like Jacksonville today. I think I might be done with them for a while. Chargers. Watch out for the T's.

Next category is COVID Corner. We have the Patriots again. God only knows what other COVID discoveries we're going to have over the next few days. They're playing the Niners. Resurgent Niners. I don't know whether I'm buying in or not. I thought Collinsworth

did a nice job of pointing out how fucking careful they were with Jimmy G in or not. I thought Collinsworth did a nice job of pointing out how fucking careful they were with Jimmy G in that game. They were throwing quick drops, short passes, handoffs, play action. We're not asking... And then gradually they eased him in, but he was playing with the lead the whole time.

That was like your perfect Jimmy G situation. I still didn't think he looked great. I have the Patriots favored by three. I said four and a half. It is five and a half. That's just too high. Let's look at Jimmy G's ankle last week. Now let's look at his ankle this week.

Now let's look at his ankle when he was in middle school. You know what? Two things. First of all, I'm going to give props to Belichick between the COVID the current COVID guy sitting out and the six that opted out if they do anything close to a playoff run here I think he should win coach of the

year I really do I don't see any like we don't have a lot of talent no that that would be pretty spectacular we had no offensive line by the end of the game today the other thing I want to check say is I didn't check who I took in our eliminator pool. I either took the Patriots or the Dolphins, and I went back and forth about it all week.

Who did you take? Did you take the Patriots? I lost in the eliminator pool week one. Yeah, I'm long gone. All right. I'm afraid to look, but I'm pretty sure it's the Patriots. Belichick is coach of the year and worst executive of the year. He's going to win both.

The dog gets an assist. The poop FECTA. This is a really good one. Bills at the Jets. Yeah. It's tough, man. At some point, they're just going to make

the Bills line so high that it's going to be even hard to pick them, even if you're in a picks pool for whatever. But I have the bills by 11.5 in this one. Yeah, you get it. I said 10. I was like, you got to start with 10. Doesn't matter if the Jets are home or away, right?

You start at 10. They're 0-6 against the spread. It's 11. So you get that one. Yeah, I would say the Jets are worse off at home, right? Yeah, probably. The pressing empty stadium, but a couple people in there are just kind of like the janitor booing. Yeah, right.

A few ghosts, maybe a cat, a black cat and a ghost. That's it. Boy, that's such a bad team that you have to watch. I was going to say we try to avoid hyperbole on this show. The Jets are one of

the worst teams I've ever seen. The combo of Flacco and Gore as your quarterback running back is just iconic. Frank Gore is 37. Flacco was done four years ago he was done. He was done. He stopped being a starting quarterback four years ago.

The only saving grace is that the fans don't have to pay to see it, right? You imagine how miserable everybody would be in that stadium if they had to watch this team did they miss a field goal to avoid a shutout like it just it gets it gets funnier and funnier as the three hours progress flat go through 44 times and couldn't even get to 200 yards no he's 186 yards he had a QBR of 11.1. QBR, it's like 30 is bad. 11.1, you're almost at zero. Frank Gore was their leading rusher. 11 carries for 46 yards.

And then in Perriman and Crowder, I guess those guys aren't terrible. Tua came in and almost outscored Flacco in a two minute we're going to kill the clock you know basically journey you're going to throw one pass can you beat Flacco he scored zero what can you do

and Flacco you saw that whole thing where he was 170 yards away from Joe Montana is there going to be like a ceremony for that Hench was really upset about that. That's going to take three weeks to overcome, but still. Joe Montana.

I'm just horrified by the Jets. And if this is all for Trevor Lawrence, that's great. But I really actually don't think it's all for Trevor Lawrence. I think they're just completely incompetent. The Le'Veon Bell contract made no sense when it happened. Nobody thought it was going to work. That's great. But I really actually don't think it's all for Trevor Lawrence. I think they're just completely incompetent. Yeah.

The Le'Veon Bell contract made no sense when it happened. Nobody thought it was going to work. I'm horrified for Trevor Lawrence. That's what I'm horrified for. They've scored 75 points. They've given up 185. They're minus 110 already, which actually seems kind of low. How many games?

Six? Six games. So almost. Minus 110 minus 110 yeah it's almost 20 a game it's like 18 a game yeah and meanwhile miami's three and three and they're plus 47 for the season yeah and they have this to a card that at any point i mean if they want to get their fans excited people are excited he came in for two two minutes today. I got five texts about it. Right. But if they play that card halfway through the season, I mean, if the football gods got involved and they wanted him to play,

then Fitzpatrick will pull a hamstring or something. Right. They should play that card with their fans if they come back. Like, hey, we're at worst the second best team in the AFC East. Come watch us. Yeah. i know what you're doing it's sad oh man god ryan is over the middle it's just not cutting it oh man it's just not like grok just isn't the same he'll be the greatest tight end of all time, and now we have Ryan Issa. He'll grow into the role. He'll see.

He'll see. There's time. Sunday night. Bucks Raiders. This is three weeks in a row, prime time for Tampa Bay? This is in Nevada. Yeah. Bucks are entertaining, though. I think that's a good team to be on TV a lot i have the bucks

favored by three in vegas uh okay you get it i said one and a half it is two and a half now you're you're a guy gronk how does he behave in vegas do they have to worry about him is brady gonna have to bail him out? Is he going to get married? What's he going to do? Probably put him in a cage. Yeah, they might put him in the cage with Tyson's Tigers. He looked pretty good today. I got to say, I thought the first couple games he looked completely washed.

I was bummed out. He did? But this game, he was athletic. They ran that one, that old play. They stopped running for him probably two years before he left the Pats where he starts on the right but goes all the way across the field toward the out-of-bounds line and they kind of lob it. They couldn't run that play for him the last year.

It was too slow. Even the touchdown, just to get his feet down. It was pretty athletic. Pretty good. He's back. He's back. Monday night, Rams-Bears. This is in LA.

I'm just guessing the Bears are going to be a very popular pick. People are going to make case for the Bears. I think the line ends up Bears. I think this line's a pick-em by game time. I think a lot of money is going to be in the Bears. All that stuff. You't sure no you're joking everybody hates the bears don't they rams bears everybody hates the bears every week you think it's gonna be a pick them what do you think it is i just think

the money is gonna go to the bears i have the rams by one and a half over the bears i think it ends up being a pick them no i had five it's six and a half i the Bears. Oh, wow. I think it ends up being a pick-em. No, I had five. It's six and a half. I should get four wins for that. That makes no sense to me. The Rams are home, you know. So what? The home field advantage doesn't even matter anymore.

Oh, I thought maybe you were reading the match-up wrong. Wait, you watch football day-to-day. Who looked better, the Bears or the Rams? Well, hold on. Everybody hated the Bears before today. Everyone's like, they're the worst five-in-one team of all time. The Bears better, the Bears or the Rebs? Well, hold on. Everybody hated the Bears before today. Everyone's like they're the worst 5-1

team of all time. The Bears just beat the Bucks and they just beat the Panthers. Those teams are good. I'm the one who won't bet against them. Listen, I have a Rams to win the NFC bet. I was in on the Rams, but I'll just read you their wins

and you tell me if you're impressed. They beat your shitty team in week one. How dare you. That was a good win back. I'll just read you their wins and you tell me if you're impressed they beat they beat your shitty team in week one how dare you they beat Philly they lost to Buffalo they beat the crap Giants they beat the Washington football team

and they lost to San Francisco by 8 what's their good win they should win the NFC East because they're 4-0 against the NFC East they've proven they're the best NFC East team I have no idea if they're actually good. Their good win was their loss against the Bills. They won that game.

They got jobs. True, but they're also down 28-3 in that game. Yeah. I don't know. I can't believe I'm coming around on the Bears. I know, really. To me, that's like a three-point line, Max. Well, I guess coming off a loss, Bears are traveling.

I don't know. Maybe it's a lot. Bye weeks, Colts, Dolphins, Vikings, Ravens. So you could see. I mean, I wouldn't be shocked if Mike Zimmer got fired, right? You fire a coach for the bye week, get two weeks. Zimmer before Gase. They can't fire Gase. He's their best asset right now. Get two weeks. Zimmer before Gase. They can't fire Gase.

He's their best asset right now. He really is. What do you have for a World Series line? Did you find it? Wait, did we cross anyone off yet? Oh. What do we do with these teams? I forget where we are even with this.

I'll look for the thing while you figure out the cross. I'll tell you the cross off teams we had we crossed off the Jets last week smart so we've crossed off the Bengals we've crossed off the Bengals and the Jets so far we crossed off the Bengals before the Jets

oh I guess because they're in that dynamite division alright so now we have a lot of choices here yeah but we have to be we have a lot of choices here. Yeah, but we have to be prudent. Let's not do Minnesota because they don't play. I got to be honest.

I think Minnesota is a cross off. Really? Yeah, they're one in five. And they're three and a half games behind the second place team. They would have to go eight, eight and two, just to have a chance to get the seventh seed. What are the odds? They're going to go eight and two.

Well, that'd be one of my picks. The other one would be, um, Oh, the Falcons. No, no,

no. It should be Jacksonville. We got to cross some off. They're not making the playoffs. They're terrible. Yeah, I guess you have to go Jacksonville. Three games back? Yeah, it's got to be Jacksonville.

It's got to be Jacksonville before Houston, right? With the same record. The only thing I'm thinking is Atlanta because now it's an easier conference, but Carolina, New Orleans, and Tampa could make it there, right? All right. We'll make it easy on ourselves. Jaguars are gone. If you're betting your life on this, you would pick Jacksonville.

You're right. They're not coming back. What's the baseball line? Dodgers minus 210. I don't see any individual games yet. Dodgers minus 210. That's way too high. Tampa's really good.

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How does he order from Amazon? He gets gift cards? He gets a gift card and then they put in the numbers. They put in the numbers. Yeah. My kids are lazy. They have Amazon gift cards, but they go on my computer and leave up items from the WWE store or something that they want me to buy.

And I just, it's like an add thing i kind of have to get rid of it and i feel like i don't know i'm in a pandemic spendy mood anyway so i'll pay 18 for the bray wyatt with the mask even though they have three bray wyatt wrestlers downstairs i'm like just to get rid of it so yeah but now the gig's up and now they know that's what I'm doing. And now they have, uh, up the ante. And I saw one of those birds, McAtee, McAtee's no, uh, Macau's Macau, right? Yeah. Fucking $750. The kid wants a bird.

I'm like, no way. So I'm shutting this down. I'm letting them, I hope they're listening right now. No more putting items on my computer for me to buy. The Bray Wyatt's fine. I'm not buying a $700 bird. I'm not having a damn bird in the house. That wasn't really the paracord.

The other one was- Wait, hold on, hold on. Yeah. Their strategy is- They just put it up on the computer. You're a sap. You have ADD. They know you like buying things, and they just put things on your computer-

Yes. Hoping that you'll go, ah, fuck it, and just buy it. Shoes and just stuff. And they know I have to X out the window on top, but I feel bad X-ing it out without making something. And then I'm father of the year when it comes in the mail. So that part's nice.

But they're completely taking advantage now. We don't need goddamn $1,000 birds. Yeah, that yeah that's crazy yeah i don't like that also crazy my youngest son he plays this roblox thing it's like the you know it's like a yeah kind of adventure game and everything he plays with his buddy and the buddy the guy's uh sister too and i think I told the story about it. The grandmother plays. And we got a text from the mother saying, hey, your son told my daughter to shut the F up because she killed him in this game. So this is Saturday morning. And my wife's like, all right, the whole weekend, no iPad.

And you have to write an apology letter to this girl i was like yeah that seems fair that's good but uh guess what that meant i had to spend the whole weekend with him i had to like do shit with him i had to like watch tv and we had to like go for walks entertain him yeah it wasn't like a three-hour walk with rembrandt i gotta actually walk with this kid who like walks slow and everything so uh i'm a shitty father but by like saturday night i'm like hey can we let him sunday maybe like no no he must he has to he has to abide by this like all right god so um the old kids out there if you're gonna tell someone to shut the f up make sure it's like saturday night so you get just like one day of uh

punishment that's tough the set the sat Saturday morning punishment is a tough one. It could have happened on like a Tuesday. I know. It was really bad. So how many days is his suspension? No, he's good now. He got through the weekend because he wrote an apology letter and everything.

But yeah, these games take their toll on these little brats. My daughter had a practice in Santa Monica last week and I had to kill like an hour and a half. So I was listening to podcasts in my car and then I'm like, all right, I wonder if Target's open. Drive to this Target. It's not open.

I'm driving back and I see a Halloween store. Like, you know, those pop-up Halloween stores with all the masks and stuff? Go in. I end up getting a few things, including a really nice Pennywise mask from It. Really creepy. Scary. But I bought a couple other things, too. Like, I bought a chainsaw. I bought another Michael Myers mask.

It's been ruined in the last one. So, come home, and I have all this stuff. So, Ben's got the chainsaw and the Michael Byers mask, doing the whole thing. Doesn't know that I have the Pennywise mask. So then I coordinate with Zoe. And at some point I go up and I go into his closet and I just wait there for 20 minutes. And then Zoe lures Ben up to his room and he goes, he's hanging out. And then I pushed the closet open and came out as pennywise and scared the living shit out of him that mask is scary i was so psyched it never works when

you're trying to scare your kids right they always catch you or they know i fucking got him so that was great um did he vow revenge or uh he laughed um i put i put it on my Instagram story so you can see the mask because he's been wearing it ever since. No, he's vowed revenge. So he's been playing 2K constantly because he broke his foot and then his foot was getting healthy and now it's healthy. So he started playing basketball again. And my wife and I were talking and she looks out.

She's like, oh my god and sees Ben, he's rolling around outside on the basketball court holding his leg she's like, oh my god, he got hurt, so we run out and he's like, no, no, I'm fine and we're like, what are you doing? and he's like, I'm in a sports movie, I was just pretending I got hurt oh

which was cool, except he turns 13 in two weeks I'm in a sports movie. I was just pretending I got hurt. Oh. Which was cool, except he turns 13 in two weeks. I don't know. What does he mean? He's in a sports movie. He was playing basketball outside, pretending he was in a sports movie. And in the movie, the guy got hurt. So he was rolling around. Was it Space Jam 2?

Rolling around. Yeah, I don't know what movie it was. So he was rolling around. Was it Space Jam 2? Rolling around. Yeah, I don't know what movie it was. So that happened. Then the other thing, I was in the house the other day getting salad and I hear him. He's like, dad, dad, I got 10 seconds left. I go in and he had finished an NBA 2K season

and he was about to win the title. So he wins the title. He's like, ah. His guy had 82 points because he's playing at all-star level. He was trying to get... He's like, you think I'll win the finals MVP? He's averaged like 70 points a game in the finals.

Man, I think you got it. Plays this whole season. Wins the title. Ends up, becomes a free agent because it's my career. Got signed by the Lakers. And half of me was like, I just can't believe this pandemic. Like what it's wreaked.

The stupidity it's wreaked across America. The other half was like kind of jealous. Because remember those days when you'd play the whole video game season? Oh, yeah. I'm sure you did that, right? NHL 94. Right. All the Madden seasons.

It's kind of like fun to watch it by Karras. Yeah, it's great. Except he got signed by the Lakers. You must have been bummed by that. And was excited about it. You were. He said they had the highest rating and it was a great move. I'm like, this is the worst thing.

You just continue to hurt my feelings. I'm going back to my salad. Leave me alone. I'm finding the balsamic and I'm out of here. So anyway, action-pack packed week at my house. What are you doing about Halloween? Nice. I was just going to ask you. So what your trick or treating is out, right? It's outlawed. As you know, I live in a big Halloween neighborhood and we get like, you know, 1500 people here, but there's going to be no Halloween.

But I do feel like a lot of those people are going to show up anyway. I think so too. I'm looking at the next door app and everything. It seems like they're going to... Because you have the walk streets down here by the beach, which is just 20 people living on a street with no cars. So those will be alive, I think. It feels like a COVID nightmare. Yeah. Well, if everyone's wearing a mask...

We were thinking, could you throw candy? Like, make it so that nobody can come within 15 feet and you throw the candy at them? I feel like we're trick-or-treating usually anyway, and we keep all the candy outside. So, I think we'll just keep it outside, not answer the door. This is when COVID becomes real. Yeah. It's not just the massive economic devastation and all the deaths. It's like when Halloween gets canceled.

Mm-hmm. It's a sacred day. That's it. You're right. Now we can't even have Halloween? Like, this fucking sucks. When is this going to end? This is a fat country.

Not to mention, like, the country's in the fucking toilet with Biden and Trump and the debate that's going to be awful. Right. Yeah. Everybody wants their Hershey's Kisses. Yeah. Yeah. It's going to be good. It's going to be awful. Right. Yeah. Everybody wants to Hershey's kisses. Yeah. Yeah. It's going to be good.

It's going to be this gravy days when, when we have 10 to 13 games on a Sunday, four weeks is going to be, you know, battles in the streets and we're going to have like three Sunday games and that'll be it. Biden's minus one 80, but you're saying we,

we can't bet it. Can't do it. Can't do it. Although the Astros losing makes me think that maybe, uh, maybe all evil won't prevail. Who knows? So what's Trump plus one 40.

We don't just buy it. We don't put our stink on Trump and just buy the Trump by the buy Trump win for Biden. What is it now? I don't even want to know. I sent you last year. Someone sent that four years ago. At this time, Hillary was 92% winner.

Oh, Biden's minus 165 now. Trump's plus 145. What happens if the election, if it just drags on for like three weeks as they as we have like a huge i don't even know if you're able to cash the bet well that's the thing so you know how it is like last time we bet the states and everything and uh i don't want to say anything but how we got this in you know they're not even dealing with the states they're like fuck this we're not taking these bets anymore these states could declare a winner in 2027. Who knows how this is going to go.

So a lot of these places aren't even taking those bets. So you think this is, this is the last two relatively normal weeks when things seem fine. Enjoy. Yeah. Oh, I meant to tell you this. I should have said this sooner

there's a lot of indication the NBA might start a lot sooner than anybody thought really yeah how are they going to do that like they

they want to wait as long as they can without fans right I think the thinking is the thinking is I mean Christmas would be the ideal but I don't think

they can pull it together that fast but if you do it by like Martin Luther King weekend range, somewhere between Christmas, Martin Luther King weekend, the thinking is this next season is screwed now because fans aren't going to be back till God only knows, April, May, who knows. But they have to preserve the season after.

So the later they wait to start this season, the more it fucks with the next season. Sure. Unless they don't play every game, right? The move, which I think they're starting to talk themselves into, and I know they have talks about it this week with

the networks and stuff, but you bite the bullet. You start it sooner than later. You go like 72 games, 70 games, something like that. Get rid of the all-star break. You try to do, like when Denver comes to LA to play the Lakers and the Clippers, they just play four games in a row in LA over the course of six days, so then they don't have to travel.

You rig it all these different ways, and you try to get it done by mid-July. When are the Olympics? July 23rd? The Olympics they don't care about because what they care about is making up money. The Olympics aren't until July. The players care about it. They're not until July 23rd anyway,

so they can get done by then. Yeah, potentially. But they need to preserve the next season, so that's what they're thinking about. And they need to preserve the next season so that's what they're thinking about and they have to figure out a CBA they'd have to add

different things to it so that idea that they start Christmas and that's how they're going to do it from now on that's got 0% because I think you

some people were behind that so you talk about preserving the next year like if they want to start Christmas then they have some leeway here right well the thing that they learned is that nobody watches television august regardless

of whether there's a pandemic or not like the ratings just aren't going to be as good right and then september they it was a catastrophe going against football and you know and then the election every four years things like that so you know what really then the election every four years, things like that. So, you know, what really worked was like having the fucking finals in June and then the off season in July and you own those two months. Yeah, I guess so. So they want to get back to that or some version of that. So to do that,

you've got to start the next season sooner than later. But I was surprised because I had thought it wasn't going to start till March, April, but now it seems like it's going to be sooner. All right. Sooner is good. I'll get you those Luca odds when they pop up. I didn't see them.

I'll tell you this, man. If it could come back MLK weekend, even, that red is football starting to crest down, assuming the world hasn't blown up yet and we still have a functioning society, basketball coming would be nice. I want it all. I want it all to come back. I don't want it ever to go away i just uh it was a good week right monday tuesday with the testing not not great a little false positive that's my new attitude bill i'm false positive i'm gonna deep deep down inside i know it's doom and gloom but i'm's going to appear like I'm happy and looking forward to the future.

False positive. I like it. That should be the title of your second book. False positive by Cousin Sal. That was Parent Corner brought to you by CarMax. Experience car shopping your way at CarMax. Sal, what do you got to plug? Oh, all right.

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That's exciting. All right. Good to see you. Good job by you. It's really good to see you too. Good job by you. All right. Thanks to Cousin Sal.

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