The Bill Simmons Podcast - Texas Toast, Fantasy Murderers, Drake Maybe Back, Guess the Lines and MLB Playoffs With Cousin Sal

Episode Date: October 5, 2026

The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Cousin Sal after the Lion-Panthers game to react to the game and to recap the rest of Week 4. Then, they guess the lines for Week 5 before ending with Parent Corner. (0:00) Intro (1:08) Lions-Panthers and the NFC playoff picture (11:26) Dolphins-Vikings, Cardinals-Giants, Chargers-Seahawks (31:35) Patriots-Bills and Cowboys-Texans (44:34) Rams-Eagles and Chiefs-Raiders (54:40) Broncos-49ers and Jaguars-Bengals (01:02:12) Jets-Bears and Packers-Buccaneers (01:04:12) Colts-Commanders (01:07:24) Guess the Lines Week 5 (01:34:34) Parent Corner (01:47:43) MLB and WNBA playoffs Host: Bill Simmons Guest: Cousin Sal Producers: Chia Hao Tat, Eduardo Ocampo, and Chris Wohlers #ULTRACourtside could get you closer to the game! https://michelobultra.com/courtside MICHELOB ULTRA® COURTSIDE ’26 to ’27. No Purchase Necessary. Open to US residents 21+ Begins on 10/1/26 and ends on 6/30/27. Multiple entry periods. See Official Rules at https://michelobultra.com/courtside for free entry, entry deadlines, prizes, and details. The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit https://fanduel.com/playwithaplan to learn more about the resources and helplines. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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21 plus select states are 18 plus D.C. or Wyoming. Game problem, called 1-800 gamble, or call. 8887-8-7-7 or visit ccpg.org slash chat in Connecticut. The Bill Simmons podcast, we are live on Netflix with Cousin Sal and his kidney stones. I want to mention we have a new rewatchable is coming tomorrow night. Texas chainsaw Massacre, which I guess could have doubled for Texansaw Cowboys today, but the 1974 one, not any of the remakes. So, yeah, me and CR are breaking that one down.

We made producer Craig Watch and it was super fun. All right. We just came off of probably the worst Sunday night football game in a while. And yet it was wildly entertaining. And there were 900 yards and zero turnovers and lots of points. But it was kind of fun to watch Collinsworth and listen to him do a bad game. Right? Yeah.

It's true. They kind of protected him a little bit with this lion's defense. I feel like they lucked into this schedule-wise. Like the NFL, if they have to put a shitty NFC South team prime time tomorrow is the exception. But if they have to do that, the Lions defense is a fun option, right? So they're always going to be,

they should always be the must play for the NFC South teams because the D is going to make you look magnificent. Their defense is a Zep bound of the NFL. It makes everyone look great. It really does. Well, they almost blew the game. There was a lot of weird strategy stuff going on. At various points,

I was wondering which coach was good on both teams and what the hell was going on. But really weird, near the end, Campbell, he's down 13. It's fourth and 10. Inside the 15. Collins or is not talking about it. Goff just takes a delay a game.

Campbell doesn't call time out for some reason, fourth and 15. Then they get a false start. Now it's fourth and 20. And then they just go for it on fourth and 20 from the 25, which I would say has like a 3% chance. You're basically hoping for a PI. They don't get it. They get the ball back.

Touchdown. They get the ball back again. But now they need six instead of three. They need seven, basically. instead of just being down three if they'd kick the field goal and they lose. And Collinsworth, like, didn't want to hear the argument for it. It was weird.

I'm just so medicated, right? I can't believe they stuck me with the Panthers bill. I just stuck in my craw there. No, there was seven minutes, 10 seconds left. They were down 13. And like you said, they're getting pushed back. So in Campbell's mind, he's got to have at some point, it's not worth it, right? If they take false starts all the way to midfield,

he's not going to throw a hell Mary, right? So to me and you, we were on this text chain. I'm like, fourth and 20, just kick it. Yeah, go down 10 with seven minutes left. That's fine. Yeah. And Anthony DeBondo, who is my co-host, Fringo Wise guy, is like, they're not getting the ball back twice again. Right now, between that and what the Raiders did with the point, I wouldn't hire DeBundo to coach my dog to his bowl to eat at this point.

But guess what? They got the ball back twice. I don't know. I don't know that it would have made a difference. But there's nothing wrong with being down 10 with seven minutes left. No, it was just a weird game in general. They ran out of Ted McMillan kind of stuff to do by the third quarter. He just kept catching passes.

It seemed like he was the only guy in the team. Anytime they needed to play, he made it. Bryce was really good. Bryce, it's not like the NBA where it would be, we'd be going, oh, my God, who's going to sign him? Seven teams need a quarterback because they can just franchise tag him, which I just think is less fun. It would be fun if he was just a unrestricted or unrestrictive free agent at the end of the year.

But he's been really good now since the last couple of games of last year. He didn't have Coker tonight. He didn't have Leggett, who they spent a high draft pick on. It was basically just Macmillan and, you know, Hubbard and a bunch of guys never heard of. Yeah, I'm trying to look because I knew you would do this. But I stand by my, the Lions defense makes everyone look good thing, you know. Well, you might be right. I mean, I don't know.

He wasn't that great against the Browns. His yards were up there. I guess he was good against Atlanta. It's better than the last year's version of Bryce. the levels, right? Like, your guy today was great against Houston. He was just awesome. He has a name, and it's Dak Prescott.

Dak Prescott. Stafford in those last two drives, when the, you know, Stafford was bad for two and a half hours, and then those last two drives showed up. My guy showed up. Like, there's like that high level. Then there's that middle level of, like, they can do it every once in a while, depending on the situation, the defense.

And I think Bryce is at least there. That's fine. And then there's that lower level of, like, that James, Jacobi Brisset five interception masterpiece. We watch a giant stadium. Then there's a level below that that I think it just came more to Malik Willis and the Rutgers guy that came in today. Kind of Macchard. Whatever that Rutgers guy was.

But yeah, so Bryce Young is at least in that second level now, which I don't think we would have said halfway through last year. I'll give you that. I mean, there's a lot. You put a lot of guys in that second level then. So you're going to put Bo Nix and Trevor Lawrence I think Trevor Lawrence is top level for me now. He's top. All right. Yeah, I think he's been really good.

The question is where Herbert is now, because he's definitely not in the top level. It's probably in the middle level. And if you watch that game today, all his stats came in garbage time stuff. Big picture with Lions Panthers. I don't know where we're going to get any competition for the seven NFC playoff teams.

If you go with the three NFC West, Yeah. Probably your team in the NFC East would be the safe bet. The Bears, just because of Ben Johnson, it just seems like he's going to scotch tape and duct tape them to 10 games. So there's five. The NFC South has to send a playoff.

They still have that role. They do. They're six. So then that seven spot comes down to Philly, Detroit, four and no Minnesota, who scored one touchdown in the first half. Oh, is that, no, that's not the stat.

What's that the Denver scored one touchdown in the first half. Minnesota is like six old year. Minnesota's other terrible offensive stats. So I guess it would be Minnesota, but I don't feel good about Minnesota. We don't have to pull the plug on Minnesota yet. I just, from my takeaway from this week and win or lose, I think we're, and, you know, injuries could really screw this up. I think there's three NFC West teams in the playoffs.

again, we're going to see that, right? And then like you said, injuries screw that up. Like San Francisco just loses guys every game. They're fullback today. It seemed like his knee blown out or hyper-extended or whatever. And it was like their 15th injury. It just doesn't matter.

They just keep plowing head. You know, Mike Evans was out there with what, broken ribs or broken bone in his back, whatever he had today. It just doesn't matter. Yeah, it's true. It doesn't matter. It didn't really matter last year, I guess, either.

They had a shot to get the one seed in week 18. But, yeah, I'm saying, like, if their quarterback doesn't go out. I would think NFC West is a lock for three teams. And I think the North will get two. And then I still think there's one in the East. I still think, and I'm not sure that it's my team. I know we'll talk about it.

But if the North gets two, that's either Minnesota or Detroit, because I think Green Bay is terrible, which we'll go into later. The interesting thing about the NFC is it feels like the three NFC West teams are the best teams. Yeah. And then maybe your team is fourth just because of how you can move the ball. you know, not only do you have the best offense in the week through four games, you have statistically one of the best offenses of this century through the first four games. I don't know if it's going to last, but that's, and this is without getting really anything from Pickens.

It's points per drive, but if you watch the defense, it's, you know, the other side of the balls is magnificently bad. I mean, Joey Porter Jr. kind of helps out because I don't even think they tested him today in terms of target. So that's good. How's his back? That's what we want to say. Is he used a Magnermitech on his back? What was he doing? Listen, they've sat them.

They purposely sat him to. Core power yoga to stretch out his back yesterday. I got some stuff for him, a few needs. But yeah, I don't know. We'll get into my team. But I just, this Vikings team, I guess we'll just have to get used to them going like 14 and 3. And they're going to have like a dozen touchdowns on the year. And that's going to be them.

I have to go all the way down to my Vikings, Miami notes. The dolphins covered. Yeah. Thanks to Hawkinson going down on the one yard line, which feels like it needs a name. Who is the first person to do that? Brian Westbrook? I forget who invented that when we were all. It absolutely blew everyone's brains.

I think it was Brian Westbrook. It said it was like on a Monday night, it had fantasy implications. It had gambling implications. All kinds of shit was in play. And he went down and the announcers were talking about how smart it was. And everybody else was like, what just happened? I feel like I've been shot by a cannon. Yeah.

The Hawkinson. He should steal it, though. If he does it like two or three more times, we could call it the Hawkinson. And then it becomes like 100 years from now. No one's going to know what the hell it is. But it's going to sound like Parkinson, or something like that. Well, they have a Parkinson too, the ramps. But anyway, yeah, that would have been, I guess he made the right move there.

I mean, first of all, if you would have sat with somebody for those 4 PM games and bet on every game, they would have been for the first time ever. You had a cousin in from like Barcelona or something And they like, oh, you never bet Let's just bet these four, four PM games Eastern. They would be like, they would look at you after it's like, what the, you do this every week? Are you kidding me?

Right. This is ridiculous. You tease the Broncos and they gave up a George Kittle half field touchdown with two minutes left for no reason. And at least that guy scored. There are some guys trying not to score because they don't want to go up 12 with two minutes left. Like, yeah, I just, and your wife stays with you like through all this

Yeah, it was a tumultuous 4 p.m. ending. The funniest thing was, I don't think Kyler Murray has a lot of touchdowns in him this year. Okay. So Hawkinson sliding down and costing him one of the few touchdowns he's going to have. He had to be bummed out. I also wrote down 20 million a year from Malik Willis now feels kind of hilarious. I've unfortunately watched some dolphins. Is that what he's getting?

I guess he is getting that one. got 70 million for three years. They paid like two guys and he was one of them. Yeah. He's not thinking. I know he does have a lot of weapons. Alex from Minneapolis sent us some email. He said he's a lifelong Vikings fan.

Could it be more thrilled about his 4-0 start? Heard a stat that since the most recent playoff expansion, no team that started out 4-0 has missed the playoffs. Wow. But he asked, considering how puttered their offense is, could the Vikings be you and Sal's first ever 4-0 cross-off team? Wow. Did you think about crossing them off at 4-0?

Oh, that's really good. I'm going to say no. I value the four wins, but it did make me pause for a second because their offense is just abysmal. And I don't understand this blitzing thing, how it's going to work when they actually play a really good team. It's a gimmick. They're getting away with it, but I do not take the biking seriously. Like a Brock party. I'm looking at their schedule.

The problem is everyone who I thought was good is now maybe not so good. So there's a stretch there for them where a couple weeks they're at the Lions versus the Bills at the Packers versus the 49ers. Let's see what they do. I mean, those are good quarterback. So let's see how they get out of that. But yeah, man, I don't know. I mean, the Dolphins, you can't learn anything from them. Do they have a game where they've scored more than 13 points?

They do not. Okay. So Minnesota beats Green Bay week one, 39 to 22 in the game that Green Bay is up 22 to 10. and the entire game completely craters on them. There's that weird drive that seemed like the game was fixed for Minnesota and all kinds of dumb shit. They beat Chicago and we, too, in the game with the 20 mile and hour wins where Chicago scores three points and the weather. It was just a perfect game from Minnesota. Last week, they beat Tampa barely in Baker Mayfield's last start.

And now we know Tampa's terrible. And then they beat Miami by five today. So they're just going to be the team. and we know who it is every year by usually November. And now we know it now. They're probably going to go 13 and 4. And we will not wait to, we will not be able to wait to bet against them in round one.

Yeah. Is where we're heading with the Minnesota Vikings. I like their fan base. God bless them. They've had a lot of agony and pain over the year. But Kylo Mer is terrible. Like you're not, you're not doing anything if he's your quarterback.

It's hard for me to believe they traded McCarthy. That means he must be awful. And I don't really know what they do. I don't know what they do either. I don't know if they're looking for like a Sam Darnel-type resurgence out of Kyle Murray. You know, Jefferson's out too, so I don't know if you want to give them a little, a little bit of a break there.

His stats weren't awful, but again, it's against the dolphins. I mean, I guess we should be happy they finally had positive yards in a matchup that they won. True. But it is about the worst four-and-o team I've seen, I think. Kudos to them. Well, one of the weird things about this season so far is we have, How many four and O teams?

Like more than usual, right? Minnesota, San Francisco, chiefs, and Kansas City. So we still have three four and O's. And then conversely, which is the part that gets super weird, we still have five, oh and four teams.

And all the stats and trends of like week three, oh and two teams, watch out when they're underdogs. And then week four, O and three teams, look out. None of them worked. The Texans are all. in four. They could have won three,

maybe even four of those games. They had the lead in three of the four. They had the lead today against your team. Stroud was, I thought, really good. They did everything you could have asked offensively from a team that can't run the ball at all. And then once again, I was texting you guys, they are the equivalent of Munoz

on the Seattle Mariners. It's a great eight innings. And then fucking Munoz comes in and walks the first guy and starts giving up rockets. And you're like, this guy throws a hundred to one miles an hour. how is he not getting a save? And the Texans have all these

all pros, all these dudes all over the place, and this is two weeks in a row and then you go back to week one, same thing, where all they had to do was just close out a drive and they win the game. They weren't able to do it. Their own four, and this was supposed to be the strength of their team.

Right, three out of the four games that their defense played horribly, and they still had a shot with the last drive and couldn't put the hammered up. And their offense got the go-ahead, score to set up the defense to finish the game, which then did not. Yeah. I love that you're invoking this Munoz. I really hope this goes like through basketball. Like he's just, con canipal. He's like Munoz. What? Let it go.

I'm just kidding. Compare Munoz to everything. He'll keep a league. You lost six months ago. Trump's new legislative act. It's like Munoz. These midterms. Not voting for Munoz, tell you that much. Well, so that Lasseter, who had, who dropped the game. winning pick in the first game. So that just single-handly costed them a win. Then this game, he got torched.

The stats were, like, unbelievable. I think when they targeted him, he gave up 200 yards. You guys CD-Lam had 17 catches and had one of the best receiver games of this decade and dominated them and dominated them in the final drive when all DAC was doing was throwing a CD-Lam and it didn't matter. And he was just getting open and making plays. And I don't understand it. I don't know what happened to Pickens this year.

If you have them on a fantasy team, you're not. doing backflips, it's, it's very CD Lamb centric, but it's working. I love it. I mean, this is maybe how it should have been last year, but not just one of the greatest. 17 for 189. Is he the greatest wide receiver you've ever seen? I'll hang up and listen to your response off the air. No, but he's thrown his hat in the ring this year for receiver of the year, right?

It's good. It's, you know, I'll take it. I'm not going to overreact at all, I promise. But let's just split the heartbreaking results, right? We lost to the Ravens. We couldn't lose this one. to the Texans too. And, you know, like I said, Joey Porter, it is a positive.

The defense still lets up. We have guys on the field that shouldn't be. But the fact that we had lost like four years worth of road games when we were down double digits in the second half, and we kicked that streak to the curb. That's nice. That's fine. I'll take that.

What do you think your odds are to make the playoffs? I saw it already. It's the same as the Eagles. It's about even, right? Minus 110 or something. It jumped up because of that Detroit lost today. You're now minus 132 to make a lot. No, really.

There's juice against you. Plus 1, 12 to miss it on Fendell. The bed of the year was the Chargers a week ago. Yeah. When we did that, they were like minus $6.50 to miss it and just put those with two other terrible teams and you have the makings of a parlay. I might have actually done this when I was in Boston, but now they're like minus $1,200. There are five, oh and four teams, you said?

And two of them are the Titans, two of them we crossed off already, the Titans and the dolphins. The other three are the Texans, the Bucks, which we won't cross off because they're in the South divisions, right? Texans, bugs and charges. And the Chargers, I think we're closest to charges than any other team right now. I would might, you could convince me to do it right now this week. I have a different cross-off team for this week. Really? That's not O and four. All right. I think it's the Arizona Cardinals. Oh, yeah. Yeah. If the goal of the cross-off and so far we've crossed off Miami and Tennessee. And Eduardo is doing a really cool Instagram.

I like it. Post of it where it's like a notebook and the teams are written. So we need a third team. What are the odds Arizona is going to make the playoffs in that division? You would need, I think, two of the quarterbacks to get hurt. They have this crazy schedule coming up. They won that first game against the Chargers. And we went, oh, my God, Arizona.

What did we miss? And then we talked that day. I think we talked on the pod. this could be one of the ones we look back at, like, around week 12 and go, oh, that was the crazy result. Yep. And it was a crazy result because we thought the charges were good. And the charges suck.

And the Cardinals threw us off their scent for a week. And they've lost every game ever since. I'm fine with that. I mean, they had 270 total yards. Oh, I started this. We started talking about how the NFC West, it's almost a foregone conclusion. They're going to have three playoff teams. So they're not going to have four, you know, to me it's like they,

They went to Trey McBride like 15 times in the red zone and couldn't get it done against the giant. So and the ref is telling him to F off multiple. I think they're telling them the rest telling them F off. I think we could tell him to F off. We could cross them off if you want. I mean, we're on Netflix. We can say he said fuck you twice to Tray McBride. He did.

The end zone judge. And he actually did. Right. Incredible video. Like does that guy get fired? What happens to him? Yeah. He's got a year to talking to Bill.

You can't throw an F-Bond. Like this guy thought he was in a third. Tarantino movie. What are you doing? Take it easy, Scarface. Come on, just let us know when the quarter's over. He, uh, yeah, I would have the Cardinals. So you agree with that? Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. Okay. They played the Giants today. And, uh, that's... It is weird. We're taking them, even though they beat the Chargers, a team we won't cross off, but we're, we are, I'm game. That's fine. Well, here's why I don't want to cross off the Chargers.

And we should talk that. By the way, the Cardinals, uh, gave up a walk-off pick six that if you tease the Cardinals. So sorry. It murdered all the teases. That seemed like one of the safest ones. A hilarious game in general, though. James is just throwing it. He's just,

it's almost like he's peaked past being where James was when he was 30, 30, 30, James. And now he's an erratic, older version of the same James. And you just don't know what's going to happen play to play. It's magnificent. I love the attitude. I think that's the best version we could ask for him. Like 18 for 29, three touchdowns.

Two interceptions. Press conference during the week. He's freaking out on the reporters saying that they're like, you're the backup. So as a backup, you're doing it. And he's like, hey, I'm not the backup anymore. Stop calling me the backup. Right. You're insulting me.

As soon as Jackson Dart gets that knee fixed up, there's like Rosie O'Donnell saying, stop calling me a guest host on Jimmy Kim alive. I'm the host of this show. I'm hosting the show right now. Who knows if he'll ever stop fishing. But that's it. So that's James in a nutshell. I like watching it.

I asked Noah who's been working with the ringer for a while, who's a giant, diehard Giants fan. I was like, I know you watch this entire game. I had it on as ATVs are going on. Like, what were your takeaways? And he said, I don't understand how we've picked in the top 10 for an entire decade. And Malik Neighbors is our only blue chip player. Right.

It's a pretty good take. Everyone was talking about how awesome and loaded their defensive. Now, Burns got hurt. Yeah. But all these guys they had that are allegedly like just a nightmare to go against and oh my God, their front seven. And their defense stinks. And then you look on the other side and it's basically just neighbors. And it is a little weird that they've had all those.

They got neighbors over 100 yards, which was nice, right? Because you don't want your blue chipper, you know, four for 38 every week. Right. So James was good enough to get him to that point. But yeah, you're right. Now the haters are going to be like first place. They're going to, you know, trade McBride us. what the fuck you is, I think.

Well, first place and they're over under, I think Avando is still seven or less. Seven and a half. Is it seven and a half? Yeah, I think that's what it was. Hold on. I could look at it here for wins. Yeah, their updated win total is seven and a half is the,

I mean, they have a million that you could bet, but yeah, over plus one 15. So I'm not willing to officially cross off the Cardinals yet until we talk about this chargers. No, no, I'm 95% there, but let's talk about Seahawks chargers really quick. Herbert just got pounded for two straight hours. It was 27 and 6 at one point. He had 26 pass yards in the first half. They started garbage timing it up near the end.

And they did something really interesting. They were down 21. I was on the treadmill watching four games at once. So I was really concentrating because his treadmill makes everything go slower. And they had like an eight or nine minute drive down 21 where they're running the ball. you would have thought they were up three. And they put this long drive together against an increasingly disinterested Seahawks defense.

And Herbert actually did get his mojo going a tiny bit. And then they came back and got it in a situation where they lose by seven. And, you know, this game was seven or a lot of markets all week. So they got the push. I just think he looks like a complete mess. They showed him on the sideline a couple times.

And he just had a different look. He used to have kind of glazed, you know, I'm from Pacific Northwest. I kind of have this vibe to me. He just looked beaten down. And in general, when you looked at the sideline with them, that was the only team I saw the whole day that seemed disconnected, unhappy, like where you watch these games, you're like, ah, there's something wrong with that team. It was the only one out of all of them.

And it's not like everything was going great for everybody. But that team looks, I would say broken would be the word I would use. He looks like he's dating the Frankenstein version of Madison Beer. Like the, she's got a... He's in the bride part too? It's a skin burned off in a terrible accident. That game sucked. Yeah, it was awful.

First of all, it seemed slow on the treadmill because there were 280 penalty yards. There were 30 penalties in that game. It's like 15 or 17 for one and 13 another. Yeah, Seattle had 14 penalties and somehow didn't lead the team in penalties that they're playing. Yeah, insane. And then now, like, all right, they'll be. line men who this was supposed to be last year's excuse, Joe Alt and Sean Slater are injured again.

Yeah. And they're always injured. They're always injured together. It's like two seniors in high school calling sick. Like, oh, did they go to the beach again? Like, why they always have to be injured together? So I don't know. In the middle of their line just collapses.

Seattle was just pushing through the middle, which was the thing I was worried about all year. Their receivers don't always make plays. It feels like they started to give up on the rookie running back. They started playing Mitchell Moore. especially in the second half. I said last week it felt 2000 blood sooed to me. Definitely feels that way.

I wonder with Harbaugh, because we found out last week we theorized, could he go to college? But he can't because of the NCAA rule violations. I just feel like his MO is to get out of this. I could see him resigning or saying like he's going through physical stuff or whatever. The way House has been calling him Grandpa Harbaugh and High Potter and on wise guys.

He just looks like he's out. He looks like the last two years of Biden, like the clips of Biden just kind of wandering around. Oh, ha, ha, ha. Right. He looks like he's out of it. DJ Mikey Mack is just prowling up the sidelines. He looks like he's, you know,

wearing his John Holmes boogie nights outfit. And doesn't seem like anybody talks to him. They just seemed like a mess. There was stuff after the game. Like there's anonymous chargers, quotes coming out. So I have my eye on that. That's the only reason I wonder if they're not a cross-off because what if they fire Harbaugh and have like a resurgence with the new interim coach or something? I mean, the schedule is still brutal. In the next six weeks, it's Broncos,

chiefs, Rams, Texans, Ravens, your team, you know, the Niners are in there too. Did you see the press conference after the game with Harbaugh? They asked him. The vote of confidence for Mike McDade? Yeah. I don't know if he heard the question or he's just so spacey at this. Maybe he's dreaming of college going back to college, like you said. But they had to ask him a second time. He's like, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. We're just, we're going to do some things. We're going to figure, yeah, we'll do it. Okay. So his job is in jeopardy? No, no, no, no, no. No, I didn't say that. I didn't say that. It's, it's an all-around mess there. Yeah, because the thing with him was always he didn't do one side of the ball or the other.

He was like a culture, motivation, you know, alpha dog type guy that would come in and these guys. he was just like a leader of men. And maybe he's just not anymore. Sometimes that just goes away. And if you don't have that other thing to fall back on. But, you know, everyone's going to make excuses for Herbert over and over again. He had two picks and a strip sack today. He just looks terrible.

And there was a lot of garbage time stuff. But I don't know. Well, let's talk your team. I mean, you're, you know. No, we're going to do that after the break. I'm just saying nobody has to be bad forever, right? And we saw that with your guy. So maybe.

I know, but the difference with my team was that they could have and probably should have been in Seattle in week one and just torch the game in the fourth quarter and started throwing the ball away. They beat Pittsburgh in week two. Right. Then they suck last week. But, you know, they've at least shown something over the course of the season. Chargers were only good against the bills for the first two and a half quarters.

Right. And then turn the ball over a bunch. My fantasy murderer all stars through four weeks. Yeah. Herbert, I think it has to be the QB, right? Drake, Drake, May was in there until today, but he was probably on everybody's bench, so he might still be murdering him.

Yeah. I think Seekwant's the running back. Good. Egbuka, Jefferson, and Harrison, which two would you take? Well, you're not counting injuries. I mean, AJ Brown is the killer. I don't, I can't count the,

like, I can't blame. To me, it's worse the guys that either are playing, doing it or are sort of playing get hurt, come back, then they're hurt again. So maybe a Gouken Harris is fair. Jefferson went earliest out of those three, right? Yeah. And then Loveland has to be the tight end. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, I didn't even check. What did he do today? Nothing. I've given up on him completely. I didn't even look. Yeah. But that has to be. And then Texans defense, which was going, you know, in auctions,

people were going three, four, five bucks for them. And then probably, I mean, really, everybody on Philly. That's good. I have all that. Everyone you named, I have them somewhere sprinkled on my six or seven rosters I have. We're going to take a break and we're going to talk about your team and a little more detail in my team because it's rare that both of our teams win in the same week. We should have done this at 4 o'clock. Why are we making it hard on ourselves?

I know. We had to save it or more. We had to wait to lose insane money on that 4 p.m. games. But all right. You're right. It's better. We're going to take a break. We'll be back.

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slash producer, Chargers fan, San Diego guy. He begged us to just cross-out the chargers and put himself out of his misery. I'm happy to do that if we want to make Chargers or third cross-off. What does that do for Eduardo? Does he think maybe that gives this team hope?

Well, then he can just concentrate on the podcast. raise. He doesn't have that we've crossed off his football team. Wow. He has a lot of faith in us. This has gone sideways, Eduardo. So maybe, um, look, they're not, they're now making it. Let's cross them off. I think symbolically, I think it's more fun to cross them off. Who knows with the Cardinals? The Niners keep getting guys hurt. The NFC, it might be nine wins. We'll keep them in. All right. We'll cross up the Chargers. So long. Bill's Patriots. Drake may be back.

You like what I did there? I like it. Yeah. Yeah. Drake may be having his mojo again? I like it all. Uh-oh. What?

Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, don't do it. Well, listen, I had to buy the win today by putting the bills not only in a ringer 107 tease, but in all the teas I did, at least in the early games. I did not think the Patriots would win today. I thought today could potentially be rock bottom, and then they would turn it around next week. And what I did not count on is the guy who really got his mojo back was

Rable. And I noticed it in the first quarter, not to sound like, I saw this coming, but I did notice in the first quarter, you know, I love the sidelines when the guys are jumping off and you could just see like the energy. It just felt like everybody was locked in. It was the first time I felt this way all season. Every time they showed Rable, he looked like last year of Rable. All the guys in the sidelines are just going up and down. They're going nuts. And they were really aggressive with the play calling. It was almost like it was like they were trying to inject Drake Bay with testicular fortitude.

Everything they were doing, all their decisions. The end of the game were I think in the first three games of the year, when they have the lead at the end, you got to basically keep the bills from getting the ball back. I just think they would have run the ball and gotten tackled and then they would have punted. And this time they went for it. They went for it. didn't get it, stop the clock. And then they did it again and got it with Hunter Henry and basically ended the game. And it was, it was just, it was a fuck you game from start to finish.

And of course, at the end, they did the Patriots, on Patriots.com where they have the locker room speech. And it was Rabel. And it felt like last year. So now I'm thinking this was all bad dream, the offseason, everything that went happened. First three weeks, malaise. Everyone in the city's mad.

They're wondering if Drake, whatever. Clearly not his shoulder because he was firing it around today. He looked great. You know, he's a little sloppy with the ball a couple of times, but his shoulders seemed fine. He ran the ball eight for 54. He was zinging it. And a couple times he aired it out like 60 yards.

So it wasn't his shoulder. It was his head. And I think this whole week was about building him back up. They didn't have Gonzalez, didn't have Barmore. And I think they were just like nobody believes in us. And it was like, the pads are back. I don't know if it's going to last, but I think that's what happened today. Thank you.

Are you done? Yeah. I know how this works. This has to be the video breakout that we put on the ringer tomorrow. So I let you go for two minutes, for whatever you need. But if you want to praise Sedona, Senzai, Vrable, that's fine. But you didn't mention Efton Chisholm, who bailed you out. I had more material.

That was my opening cell. Okay. All right. All right. First of all, I spent, I was in New York and people don't like Drake May there either. but I'm like, I would spend the whole week defending him. I'm like, he's not done. I just know he's not done unless it is like a shoulder injury and he's afraid to say it,

and which by now he should say it. But yes, we saw a lot of great throws today. We saw a lot, a lot of bailout throws. This is why I was telling you, the Patriots are not a crossoff. But I feel like I'm kind of dialed in on him. And I think you may have, I think every snap is still an adventure with him. I really do. I don't disagree.

I think you're going a little more towards Baker Mayfield. I don't want to call him Drake or Mayfield, but you're going a little more towards... Traker Mayfield. It's a little bit of, you know, what's going to happen now kind of thing, you know? But you're back on track. That was a huge game for the franchise.

Some texts with my dad today. When Dobbs did well, I texted him. Dobbs always liked him. We've been bitching about Dobbs for a month. My dad said, was so happy we got him. But then Drake had that fumble. and my dad just texted, May is a roller coaster ride.

And I said, you might be too old to, you might be too old to handle him anymore. He's like a playoff hockey game every quarter. And that's kind of where we are. You never feel 100% safe because for some reason, he's a little sloppy.

So it's like these playoff hockey games where you're just like, ah, oh, and you're just doing that for three hours. But he looked like he, today he looked like he did last year. So we know there's not a shoulder thing.

And that was kind of the intel behind the scenes, not just from insiders with the NFL, but even like the team and the little birdies around the team. It was like, we just got to get his head straight. Like he got his ass kicked in the playoffs and he sucked in the Super Bowl. And obviously it affected him.

Good for you. So I think they build him back. Good for me. You get to talk football for a little longer. Yeah. I'm back, baby. Yeah. In the locker room speech,

he gave out the four game balls. and then the last one was to Drake. And you could just tell by the way the team, like the team was really trying to pull him back. Because I think he, I just think there's different types of athletes and he's one of those, I internalize it when things are going well,

which is weird when it's the leader of the team, right? And you forget he's still young. He isn't that a lot of things. So anyway, maybe this is... You're 100% back on. This is unbelievable. Well, I said to you last week when we were...

No, we were talking about Trevor Lawrence. And I was like, think about the fucking dips and turns and ups and downs with that dude. How many times we wrote him off? And I really like Trevor Lawrence now. I think he's good. So I think this is part of the process. But the bigger issue is or the bigger thing that helped today was Josh Allen kind of sucked. Yeah.

The game is there for him to take. Yep. They score the touchdown. They go up five. They have the two point. I would have bet my life the bills were getting the two point, right? I don't know what happened that play. they don't get it.

And you know when 27, 22, whatever it was, they're up five and it's like, oh, this is, this, then the Pats go down. Drake makes a bunch of big plays. And then Chisholm makes the play of the year for the Pats. This is a guy who's been an August preseason hero, but never thought you'd see him in a game like this. Catch the year.

Play of his life. So Drake was 22 for 37. New England rushed the ball 36 times. And there's something Mike Lombardi always talks about, completions plus rushing attempts. It's 58. You get over 50, that means you've controlled the ball

or you have a situation like, what was the Bears today? They had like 78 completions and runs or something. Yeah. But it looked a little more like what you would have wanted to look. And yet, Buffalo got the ball back. I thought for sure Josh was going down and scoring. I did too.

I don't know what it is with him. I thought last week was his weird. I'm like, you know, you get really spoiled with Josh Allen, right? But now he has one touchdown and three interceptions in the last two weeks. I know he runs for touchdown. So he's going to break like Earl Campbell's record, whatever. But yeah, I just, something seems wrong and they're not running away with the division. And he's not running away with the MVP.

Like you got, I was looking at it. I texted you. It was like, there were like 730 votes between Drake May and Stafford that are not going to those two. and they might not go to Josh Allen, who's still favored, according to Fandall, to win MVP at plus 2.30. And then Brock Purdy is plus 450.

15 to 1 two weeks ago. That was when to get him. But, um, and meanwhile, the best two, the guys I would bet, Lawrence at 10. 01 or Prescott at 14 to 1,

I think are the best kind of odds, right? Because, and we'll talk about the Jags later, but I thought they were really good today. And I think your guys been excellent. So this, too. And, Hardy was not that good today.

Now, they had some offensive line stuff and he was missing weapons. But it was the first time he looked a little bit mortal. And yet I still think he's a top five quarterback in league. I wrote down, does Josh Allen want to be the guy or not? Because after that second game this year, we were all like, he's the best part in the league. There's nobody like this guy. And then last week, kind of sucked. This week, let the pads beat him at home.

Let the pats off the hook. where this AFC's competitor who's like reeling and, you know, missing dudes, missing Gonzalez, missing Barmore. And it was like, missing A.J. Brown. It's just a fucking godsend to have these guys come in and you lose the game. As a Pat's fan, I don't know how the Buffalo fans felt about this, but we couldn't tackle James Cook. Right.

And he only had 12 rushes for 75 yards. But my dad and I were texting like, why don't they just give Cook the ball all the time? He's going for seven of 15 yards of pop. Right. But they just, they wouldn't do it. He just tries to do too much. I love this. I love how over your skis are you are now.

I'm not. Listen, they saved the season. Brable said that afterwards. This was the do-or-die game. If you think, if you want to be in the hunt, you had to win today. I didn't think they could. So you're betting $188,000 to win $100,000 that the Patriots make the playoffs. Good for you.

No, I'm not. I like that. I'm not. I don't like the injuries. and there's some things I worry about. Brable set out, this is another thing with Brable that I think he's doing intentionally.

He said, Josh in the post-game press conference, Josh Allen is unbelievable, but I felt like Drake went toe to toe with him. This is what they've subtly done all week with him where they're trying to build them up and be like, you're one of the best guys in the week.

Like, let's go. Like, you're our guy. Let's do it. And they're just, I think, doing everything they can to basically give him his confidence back. We'll see if it works. I think that's what's extra special about this game is not only because it was an

AFC matchup, but puts you right back into thick of things, right? Not only is against your rival, now the bills, it's against the team that kind of started that cover six against Josh Allen. Maybe there was a team before them, but when they beat them in the regular season last year, it was last year, right? That's what they employed.

And that was like they were going around to the rest of the league. And then everybody used it in the playoffs. It didn't work today. It really didn't work today. because the guys open all over the place. Well, if you're a Bill's fan, you got an awesome Keon Coleman game. He made a couple huge crutches,

and you still lost at home. So I'd be bummed about that. And then your team, Texans Cowboys, we didn't talk about the Texans piece that Nico came back and made a huge difference for them. Yeah. And they still lost.

And they just can't run the ball. They're 19 for 64. I thought Montgomery, I had Montgomery in two fantasy leagues. I thought he was going to make a huge difference. difference. He's right up there too. He just hasn't.

And their defense, they had 13 penalties on both sides of the ball and they gave up 28 first downs to your guys. So I don't know. Then your team, you got Tampa at Green Bay at Philly, Arizona, and at Indy next five. That feels like six and three. It's fine. I mean, I honestly still think nine and eight can win this division. I really don't think we'll talk about Philly and how they blew that.

game to the Rams, but, you know, the Cowboys are going to just, they're going to fold against some of these teams. The coaching is going to be stupid. I think they depend on Aubrey and Dak too much. We have to get to a point where we don't depend on both those guys too much. When Aubrey's lining up for 65-yard or after getting a kick blocked and, you know, it's easy for you. I mean, that was a huge six-point swing. Yeah. It ended up not being huge because we won the game, but that easily could have been something. That's exactly the kind of thing that makes us lose games. dumb, dumb, dumb. Over 9 and a half wins for the Cowboys,

minus 120. It's right there. For the division, plus 130, same odds as the Eagles. And I don't understand how anybody could watch those two teams today

and think they should have the same odds. I don't know what the Eagles do well. I really don't. And I look forward to the Philly special when Sheel and those guys really break it down in detail. But their pass rush was better today. I guess that was a bonus.

That was it. Yep. But offensively, like, Saquan has just had trouble staying on the field. He left the game early today. They didn't have DeBonte Smith, obviously. This Cooper guy was somehow important for them, but it was so hard for them to move the ball.

And yet, the way the Rams were playing, I wrote down, Philly got every break for two hours, and Stafford stunk. And yet the Rams stole the game. game. Basically with two drives, they just took the game. And the anti-Sariani thing is the worst it's ever been. Yeah, he deserves it too. And I got a little scared because I love the Rams, one of my favorite bets. And then, you know, you hear Lane Johnson's out. I think we heard that

early this morning, right? I love the bet even more. Hate the Eagles anyway. It bumped up, right? Did it ended at three and a half? Yeah, yeah, ended up three and a half. And then the game starts and you see the rain on the lens of the camera from the quarterback's perspective. You know, when they have the camera, like Fox will have the camera and you'll see like the rain drops on them like, oh, crap. That's no good for Stafford because then he has happy feet. And it's like,

and then what the Eagles have like a hundred yards of offense, maybe 110 at half and they're up 10. I said, God, they're going to lose this game. This is a typical eagle game. This is how they're going to do it. And somehow they didn't happen. They didn't convert a third down in a game

and a half or something, right? This is a spectacular while we're watching. I wrote down that they were 0 for 6 on third down in the first half. And then at the end of the game, they're 0 for 12. They just put two 0 for 6s. Yeah. They were 68 yards net passing on 31 dropbacks. And I just don't think they're good.

It might take the lines two more weeks to adjust to it, but I don't see it. And then there's rumors now Lane Johnson might just be done. Who knows? The Rams had a 98-yard drive that got a good. going. Puka was nine for 125. Williams, who was awesome, was 16 for 80 and 10 for 67 catching. So they had 28 touches.

They had 26 first downs. Eagles had 12. They almost, they more than doubled their yardage. Another thing with the Rams that is going to kill them unless they fix it is the special teams. They did two more things today that were bad. So, you know,

there was a moment there was like, wow, this team's one and three. And then staffer. it has like a broken pinky for two games. Like there's a path for them not to make the playoffs, but they rented the ship and they... I mean, just keep playing the Eagles. I mean, I love the stats.

They're at 68 net passing yards for Hertz on 31 dropbacks. Do you realize how bad that is? That's 172 total yards, offense, lowest in a dozen years. Love it. Keep it coming. How mad were you, and were you as mad as I was in the... I think it was in the first half when the Rams had the pick in the end zone

and the guy kind of mistimed his jump, whiffed it, and then tipped it to the guy behind him who caught it for a touchdown. Who grabbed that? Yeah, and it was like, oh,

we're doing this with the Eagles. Okay. Yeah. This is the bullshit that's going to happen. Yeah. Did you show, were you over the Philly sports in the last two weeks

because it's dismal? Flyers aren't good. Eagles lost two. Penn State lost. Phillies, obviously, bow out in three. It's pretty bad. Well, LeBron said,

he came to Philly to help Joel and Bid win a title. Okay. That's bad, too. That was definitely his number one reason he went to Philly. He's bald, too, yeah. When he got together with Rich Pala Summers, what do you want to do? And they made the pro con. Number one was, I want to help Joe L. Embeddeed, a guy I barely know, win the NBA title.

All right. Well, now it's on the upswing again. Chiefs Raiders was awesome. The rare moral victory for the Raiders didn't win, but they kind of did win because the stadium, was the most electric it's probably ever been. They hung with the team. It was in either or a game, no question. They proved that they could hang with them.

And they really had a chance to win. And strangely, it came down to that long bomb to Ty Thornton, who used to be on the Pats. We got rid of them, and then he turned it to this awesome speed threat. And right when the Raiders felt like they were going to take control of the game, blitz on Mahomes. Mahomes has been, I think, really fun to watch this year. Awesome, long pass to Thornton, who gets tackling and breaks his ankle.

And they stopped the game for 10 minutes. Terrible. He comes out. Chief score. Fumble by the Raiders. Chief score again. And the game's over. And like five, we went from, oh, they're going to do this to, oh, my God, that guy broke his ankle to.

Wow, they just scored twice in a minute. And that was it for the Raiders. But I thought it was a win for them for the most part. Yeah. I feel bad for the agony, anyone who bet this game went through, right? So like the chief score, they don't get the two. but then they get the turnover right away and they score the Raiders score

and then they do get the two and it's just like you know you should mention it was Chiefs minus four and a half right right right and it's just dancing back and forth between five and three

potentially for an hour and a half right four six five three it's still and you know we had a problem with this like with the Raiders not taking the points they got a field goal and they took it off the board and then they didn't you know they end up getting nothing

out of that. And then the second time around, Kubiak goes for the field goal, takes the points. I definitely don't mind him doing that the second time. I just, I don't know. I don't think this is the 2020 chiefs that are going to score 45 points. So if you're up on them with seven or eight minutes left, take it.

Take the points. It's young coach stuff. I remember this was happening with McDonald and Seattle early on with this stuff too. I think they just have to slowly get a feel for what to do in those situations. the positives. The tight-end combo is fantastic.

Yeah. Like they can go big with these, you know, I know a lot of the teams are doing the 12 now, but they have the two guys to really do it that Bowers is basically a receiver and the mayor too.

And they can be fiscal. It's weird though. They don't run the ball. Like I thought they're going to run the ball. Genti's been kind of middling as a fantasy guy who was going, you know, the question was whether he's going to be healthy or not. But they haven't run the ball like that.

And then on the KC side, they haven't had a sack in the last three games. And then they just lost their deep threat. So they're heading into the bye week. But I certainly wouldn't say they're like a juggernaut like we would have in the past. And do you feel the same like when it was in the old days? You would always text me, Chiefs minus 120 when they're down four with fourth quarter. Do you feel like this is just a different error for them? I tried it a couple weeks ago.

No one bit. I don't know if you know what I put it on. text chain and they ended up winning obviously. I didn't think they were going to lose that game today at any point. Did you? I felt they had it. Definitely not at the end. I did feel like with the Raiders with the lead in the fourth quarter

where we don't get to see Max Crosby in that situation a lot. I thought maybe he'd make a play and they could get a stop. I don't know. I didn't know what to expect. The crowd was way more. I know there were a lot of Chiefs fans too, but the crowd was loud for the Raiders. I really thought they had a home field advantage. That surprised me too.

You're right about the tight ends. I think Cousins had 365. I do think he's going to need to stretch the field. The tight end thing is great. And most of those yards went to the tight ends. But who are you stretching with? You know the receivers. It's like Trey Tucker and Cody White.

Like he's going to, Cousins is going to need something to break up that mid-range stuff. But I can't say enough about this Kenneth Walker. Like I say this Kenneth Walker, like we haven't seen it. I felt like the Super Bowl confetti dropped from the sky covering him in the MVP trophy. And the other 31 team, said, yeah, I don't want that guy.

And he's just perfect for this offense at 179 yards combined and two touchdowns. So I think you have to start thinking like, who's going to get the one seat if it's not a team like the Chiefs? Is it the Jaguars? Are those the two teams battling for the one at this point? I know we're quartered the way through the season. I know, but I thought the same thing. Like, after four games, we usually have a favorite. And I don't know who the favorite is in the AFC.

Yeah. I would say that the team I probably feel the best about is Jacksonville. And I don't know if it's sustainable, but just for being able to do stuff on both sides of the ball, being able to run the ball, being able to throw the ball, multiple targets. If I'm down three late in the game, I might be able to move the ball. I can protect leads. I have a little bit of a home field advantage. That's probably the one, but I don't feel great about it, but I think that's the one I would probably trust the most.

All right. Maybe it's too early. That's not to me. It's too early. Yeah. Well, the chiefs are going to have to figure out how to replace Thornton because I don't think he's coming back. They said he dislocated his ankle, but that's at least a couple months, but I would assume that's probably the season. Yeah.

And then the Tyree kill stuff's already started, you know, which wouldn't be until November, but they could fit back in. He's the kind of character guy they love and would replace them as a speed threat. So, who knows? Yeah, I agree with you. Does anybody get to 12 wins in the AFC? I had to take my earbuds that I was losing you there. You can hear me right? Yeah.

Yeah. I don't know. I don't think it's 12. I don't think it's 12. So you think it's a lot of 10 and 7, 11 and 6? Yeah. Right in there. Do you forget to charge your earbuds?

No. It's like a Dan Campbell situation? 88%. Maybe it's the medications take an effect, and there's nothing wrong with the earbuds at all. I was steering us toward 49ers Broncos, and we thought the Broncos might be, you know, if it wasn't going to be the Chargers,

it would be the Broncos. I don't know if it's going to be the Broncos. And they got both of their cornerbacks got hurt during this game. I don't know how long Surton is going to be out. Their offense, they've scored 13 points total in the first half. You love Bo Nex. What's going on? Because this doesn't feel sustainable.

I don't know. I like the backdoor bow. I like that they, you know, they're behind in every game. and 15 games or whatever, and then they come back. But you know what? I think that was a good old-fashioned defensive game. Nobody was a good chess match,

and nobody was going to let anybody do anything and look good offensively. And there was good pressure on both sides. I had Denver plus two and a half. I know you had them on a teaser. So it was disgusting how that ended up. But I had the catch-up teaser to make up for the Buffalo thing, and it just, yeah, wasn't a good day for me.

I might have to ask you for a loan. Yeah. I'll get it to you. But there's a, yeah, you know, you're going to tell me they're going to win six games? I would say no way, but they're not, they're not 11, 12 win caliber team anymore, the Broncos. Doesn't feel like he has a feel for what his team is. Even if you look at what is there over under now. So their regular season wins.

Nine and a half still? Yeah, but the juice is on. the under. So yeah. So people still feel like this team can win 10 games. I don't know if I see it. But I do wonder if it's all leading toward he takes the play calling back from the guy they brought in, or the guy they promoted over the summer and web. And I don't know. There's some sort of new. Like they don't use Waddle like I thought. Sutton is mysteriously missing. And none of their running backs seem to be impactful in any way. And then Knicks is all over the map.

Yeah. Waddle scored. That was his first one. So you think they would wake up a little bit there. The running game is still a little iffy. It's very weird. There's no one to rely on. I really want RJ,

I really want RJ Harvey Harvey to be good. And I don't have them on any fantasy teams. I have no stakes in it. But you watch him sometimes. You're like, it feels like there's something here. Why can't this, why can't he become a guy?

And then it just never happens. It would be nice. It would be nice. This is a good exercise. I think I'll do this with the ring or wise guys. There's like five teams that are over and there's nine and a half, including your team, including my team,

including Denver. There's another one. Like, who do you believe in out of these, uh, out of these, you know, double digit capable winners here?

Well, then you have the Niners who I guess Shanahan just give it to him now, this coach of the year. How many guys are they going to lose? Yeah. This is unbelievable. It's not, it's not like McCaffrey's jumping out of the,

TV in these games. You know, this is like a different, it feels like a different version of him. They allegedly had no pass rush for this game because they had so many injuries, a game that had crazy heat in Santa Clara, right? So you think in the second half, they're going to lose their pass rush. They didn't. They were still able to get some pressure and the Bow Nick situation was not great. But this, to be honest, this game came down. It was 3-3. Just felt like a slog forever. and it became a who's going to fuck up first game and Denver's punt returner fumbled. Niners get it.

All of a sudden it's 10-3 and it felt like the game was over. Yeah. It was like whoever was going to make that first mistake was going to be the one that that was going to lose. I think you're right about Shanahan. McCaffrey's not even in on third and goal a lot of times. It's very strange the way they run their offense and yet it always seems to work.

They're 4-0 and that was a double-digit one. Bengals Jags was the other one we have to talk about. I mentioned before, I think the Jags are legit good. I watched this game closely. I had the Jags. That was my last second Sunday ringer 107 pick. Had some other interests. But it felt like one of those games where the gods were against them,

they had 10 first half penalties. Yeah. And it wasn't just first half penalties. They had shit like Hunter got a pick, got called back because of a roughing the passer after Burrow threw the ball. They had that crazy face mask on Chase that actually probably helped them win the game

because he had to leave. They had a 40-yard touchdown run that got called back. They had a first and goal inside the five and got a holding penalty and all of the sudden were, so it was like, it just felt like one of those games.

And then they had three TDs called back. And then they're up 13-3 anyway, and they were making Burrow do dumb stuff and they can move the ball and they can run our throw. It feels like if it's a third and nine they can get it, if it's a third and one, they can get it.

I think they're really, good. I thought they were good too. And I had a whole thing written up about how scary the Jags defense is. And Hunter had one of the best defensive games you could have at that position. It was all over the TV, wasn't he? nuts. Yeah. And then, well, he's on my iPad because that was a separate game. But I know what you're saying. Yeah, I know. But I read a whole thing up about how scary their defense is. And I'm like, wait a minute. You give up 400 yards. Yeah, 428 yards for Burrow without Chase. Higgins and Brown, Chase Brown had 22 reasons. receptions. They did hold them the 23 yards rushing. And I bet the under, so I was good with all of it, 2217.

But I don't know if, I guess any time you go in Cincinnati and when on the road, it's a good one for an AFC South team. So I don't know if I'm ready to bet them and win to make the get the one seed. I'm not either. I, they're ahead of, I had them, what was the eight and a half before the year. I was under on them. I didn't really feel like they added anybody. The biggest thing they added was that Hunter is now an impact on. defense. Yeah. But they, they,

uh, since he run was 17 carries for 23 yards. Um, then you have the burrow piece of this. So he threw two picks. He threw that third one that got called back by the rough in the,

the passer, but he'd already thrown the pick. So he lucked out on that. Um, and he lost chase on the most egregious face mask of the season. It was like a nine out of, like that 10 out of 10 will always be when Warren Sapp did the face mask on Jerry Rice and blew out his ACL.

That's the worst face basketball time. This was like an eight and a half. It was really bad. He really like yanked his head sideways as he was getting hit. And he got knocked out of the game. Bounce his head off the turf. Not good. Not something you want to say.

But man, so they're up 2210 Jacksonville. And I just don't think Burrow can come back. Like I wasn't worried. He just doesn't do it. It's not what he does. And I know he put the stats up, but my question for you, you is he starting to drift toward being a good stats, not that good of a team guy?

Yeah. Is that where we're going with him? Certainly. But again, I don't want to chase. They had a game plan, that whole thing around Chase being out, you know? So maybe they scored in the 20s if he's there. I mean, he's that impactful player. He's top three or four receivers.

So, but I'm with you. I don't have any confidence. I mean, talk about like a confidence meter. I might put your team above the Bengals. I put the bills above them. I have to put the Jaguars above them. And the Chiefs and maybe another AFC team, maybe Denver at this point. Bears Jets.

The Bears ran, there were 30 plays in the first quarter, and the Bears ran 26 of them. They had 34 first downs, they had the ball for 43 minutes. They had 54 rushes and 25 completions. The Jets had the ball for 17 minutes. So that's it for the Jets being good. I don't think we have to have that conversation anymore. The Bears, Ben Johnson's just, there's five, six great coaches. in the league and he's just one of them.

It doesn't seem to matter who his quarterback is. Packers, Bucks. Well, wait, we're only allowed to cross one team off a week. Is that how it goes? Yeah, it's one a week. Hold on. Are we going to get there that way? 17?

Yeah, we'll get there. I mean, I don't know how you have 15 pass attempts when you're down, double digits, almost the whole game. Aaron Glenn says they're going to have to look at the tape, but to see what went wrong, but that was disgusting. Packers Bucks, Tampa finally covered. Although today the line went down to two and a half. so technically they didn't cover.

They didn't. They covered for the whole week. So I don't know how we litigate that. There were a million Green Bay fans in Tampa, which was depressing. And Jalen Daniels, there were flashes. I really wanted to happen for him. He kind of had it set up for him. He just wasn't quite good enough to pull it up.

But my big takeaway was both of these teams suck. Yeah, I think I was texting you some F bombs about the Packers. I'm like, are they really going to blow this game? Like, how do they do this? They tried. than they could. They were dying to blow it. And Jalen Daniels, that's what a rookie quarterback's going to do in his first start, right?

Like 19 for 20s. 19 for 20s, it was actually a pretty good percentage, but 148, a touchdown, two interceptions. He had over 50 yards rushing. But, yeah, that's not a good win for the Packers at all. I also think it's a lot of Daniels. It's Jalen Daniels. It's Jaden Daniels. Too many Daniels.

We need like a Daniels. Yeah. Jason Daniels or Jackson Daniels. I don't know how many there are. Ravens, Tennessee, Titans somehow covered. Cam Ward now 318 as the starter. We don't need to talk about that game. Colts, Washington was another fuck you London game.

Just terrible. The Marriota goes out almost immediately. We get the Rutgers guy comes in. Yeah. And yet, Quinn is up 6-0. It's 4th and 1 near midfield. Yeah. Colts haven't done anything.

It's late in the second quarter. And he just says he hurries up this run play, get stuffed, swings the game, and the Colts end up scoring, and they never look back. And it was really brutal. It was a perfect one in the game, right? It was two teams that are probably not going to make the playoffs.

One's going to start with a backup, and then that backup's backup's going to come in. And he's going to have a name that most Americans can't pronounce because he's a seventh-to-round bill from Rutgers or a horse-bell. And then the team with all the backups, like you said, it's going to have the lead momentarily until their coach does something dumb and the score will end up upside.

Perfect, perfect London game. You forget when they show the fourth string quarterback, who's usually the backup tight end, and they have to go through his backstory. Right, of course. Thing. I'm not going to tiptoe around this anymore. And I know it's been a topic the last couple of weeks.

I think the owner on the sidelines taking notes is fucking nuts. I think it's nuts. I think you wouldn't respond. I was pretending you had a crush on her, which I completely made it for her. I think it's bonkers. I can't believe she does this. And I can't believe people in her life

haven't talked her out of it. And now there's this push of like, oh, no, no, no, she's really into the... If a male owner was doing this, we would be ridiculing this guy until the cows came home. This would be like when Vivek was celebrating the Summer League title in the NBA

and we thought that was so funny. We would think it was so fucking funny if some, you know, rich guy, male owner was on the sideline with a notebook, like, hovering over and giving advice to the coach. We'd be like, this guy, even Jerry Jones wouldn't do that. Right. And, and Erce's daughter's doing it, and we're like, oh, yeah, well, you know, she cares about the team.

Why are we making excuses for how weird this is? I don't know why we are. I'm not going to make any excuses. I like, I prefer the, you know, you see the, you know, Jerry for years was on the sideline. Remember, no matter how cold it was. Yeah. And Fox and CBS would love that shot of him after they lost a close game in the snow and he's, you know, and now it's like, yeah, let it put him in the luxury box.

Let's just pretend we know how many scotches and sodas he's had. And that's how I like my owner, not checking up on these coaches. That's, um, I don't think they knew it. I thought it was weird when Cuban sat on the bench for the Mavericks. I always thought that way. I used to make fun of that when I had my column. Right. Like, why are you in the bench?

You own the team. But he's not hovering over the coaches, right? Just the same. No, today should there was some hovering from her today. Yeah, a lot of hovering. That's just very strange. I don't understand. There's nobody in her life

that could be like, look, this is not the move. I think we are. I think we're in our life. Ridiculous. Listen to us, Carly. That's her name, Carly? Yeah, yeah.

Carly Ray Jepson, right? Something like that. Carly, go in the suite like everybody else does. Week five, guess the lines? We have a bye week. Yeah, we do. You wear this?

Only two teams, yeah. we have the chiefs aren't a bye week, and then we have the Carolina Panthers. We don't have to worry about them. So from a fantasy standpoint, not the biggest disaster on the planet. This is creative for the chiefs, right? Mahomes,

they didn't know how it was going to feel coming back. They gave them a cupcake schedule for the first month. Oh, and you're going to get a buy in week five. This is good for your chiefs, and we have to put another team in there, so it's the Panthers. I mean, if you're saying there was a conspiracy to make this as,

cushy as possible for him, you'd give him the Monday night game against a team that doesn't seem to care about the preseason and the Broncos. That was a good start. Four games ending with a by week heading in a week five. Yeah, I would say this worked out pretty well for them. Yeah, not bad. Not bad. Thursday night, your team's playing. Let's go. Were you aware of this all week? Did you know you have to do this again on Thursday night? I was, and it's interesting because, well, I'll get to it later in a parent corner, but this is going to be a big night for me. This could be like what you found out about J-1 Brown.

This is right when I'm getting my stuff done. Really? Yeah, yeah. Under the knife for the Thursday night game. What time Thursday? Well, it's going to be early, but I mean, I might be out of it. You know what I mean? On the meds?

Yeah. So you don't want to pop on the pod with me at house on Thursday night? Maybe I will. Maybe I'll... Drug the drugged up south. Yeah, yeah. That's your drunk owner time. Thursday night, Cowboys, home for Jalen Daniels and the own four bucks.

Congratulations. What a spot for you. I just... This is not when I want to play them, but okay. You wouldn't want to play them Thursday night, right? No, these Thursday night games are dumb. I went too low. I've beaten you the last two weeks.

We're two one and one. I'm two one and one for the season. I went too low. I don't know why I did this as a pick. I did Cowboys five and a half over the box. Oh, wow. Yeah, that's too low. I went too low too.

I don't know. I don't know why. I said eight and a half. It's nine and a half. Yeah. I just, I just feel like that was a typo. But that's what I sent to Eduardo, who made us kill off his charges before.

Right. So, all right. You're up one nothing. Cowboys bucks, three teamer, 10-pointer. Looking good so far.

You're going to put it with UCLA plus 20 and a half? The bucks don't have a pass rush anymore. Yeah. And they don't really score anymore. But you score. What's the minimum points you're going to score in this game? 27. Yeah, I would think so.

So I guess there's like a backdoor cover for Daniels, but man, if you don't win this game. I'm glad you brought up UCLA because that's Saturday night. Our friends of Fandul wanted us to preview Oregon, UCLA. way. You see they going for 5 and 0. There were two hard road games for them during this season.

That before the year it was like, well, they're over was like six and a half for wins, 34 and 0. It was like, oh, well, they're going to lose in Oregon,

and they're going to lose in Michigan. Now those teams both look super vulnerable. What is the line right now? It's Oregon's favorite double digits, right? I saw 11.5, but the look ahead from like August was like 14. and a half. So you've already made some great strides. And you're going to win your bet. What was it?

Over six and a half wins, seven and a half. Yeah, I'm going to win that. But I think UCLA can win this game. Especially with the buy. I would, I like the over as well because they've scored crazy points in every game. So my, my dream scenario here would be UCLA, maybe even an adjusted, adjusted line of like four and a half, something like UCLA plus four and a half with something. with the overall be what i would do look at you yeah yeah organ really only had one good defensive game they got the backup quarterback that throws a nice ball in there so i i could see it being high scoring but i would not take them laying 11 and a half for sure you know what you're going to hear during the game a lot of respect between the two coaches oh yeah that's right a lot of respect

is there a quarterback going to be back you think for this more no i don't think so i don't think so that line's too high yeah i think you say i can win the game what's the money line you're a live You're a live dog here, plus 360. But that's a tough place to win. Don't think it. You should go. Let's go. You're going to be in Boston?

I'm not going to that game, but I do like UCLA and the over is plus 733. You still a money line in the over plus 733. Wow. Okay. You know what else? Those two things have in common? What's that? California and Oregon.

Vandals available on both places. No, no. Yeah. That's what I'm. heard. So Fandle nationwide this football season, get in on the action if you haven't. All right. Rest the guest lines. Georgia, Alabama. Georgia getting one. Sunday. So I got Saturday. I got you sale. Saturday night. Got a London game on Sunday and it's actually a good game. Jacks Eagles. This is a strong one. I have Jags minus three. I think I hit it exactly. Ooh, this one went up.

Is there an injury? You're going to get it anyway. I said two and a half. When I looked before the pot, it was three and a half. It is now four and a half. Jaguars are favored. Oh, man. That's one of those. You bet the Jags, or you're rooting for the Jags, but you oversleep the first 20 minutes and you wake up and it's Eagles 10-0.

Yeah. Trevor Lawrence having trouble getting going. That's a lot of points. My God. I think, so it's effectively a neutral field, but it's not because the Jags play there. Yeah. I think they're four-point. They should be four-point favorites over.

the Eagles on a neutral field from what I've seen this season. You don't agree? No, I think you're right. It just looks weird, right? Like, we combined red 18 terrible offensive trends for the Eagles. You're right. They did have a little bit of a pass rush today. But otherwise, it's kind of same old Philly and more injuries.

And now I don't know who's carrying the ball for them. But, yeah, you're right. Little tank, Bigsby action. It's Bigsby. Yeah. Shipley and Bigsby. I don't even know who's hurt anymore. take care of business for any home fans jagg you owe them let's do it sunday marquee game is

clearly seattle home for the 49ers ms hugh's found something with emmanuel wilson today and hopefully you found them on your fantasy team if you had jedarian price i have them in uh in our league and in my other league with my college buddies i picked up wilson who then had a way better game than price has ever had but i thought wilson was good today And they threw him the ball out of the backfield. He had a lot of touches, and that was the one concern I had with them. Still feels like the Seahawks are like one receiver short, very JSA independent, even more so than last year. And I didn't think Donald looked like he did last year.

He wasn't sharp early on. Was that sharp? For sure. And yeah, you're right. Unless JSN is getting like 175 yards, you need something else. So that running back comes in handy there. I thought it would be Barner or just, I thought they'd have a second guy that would emerge

or Shaheed with a full off season, but they just don't, they used Shaheed and like some running stuff that I thought was fun. 27-year-old run, yeah. So I have Seattle at home favored by two and a half. That's what I had. It is three. So we split that.

I like the Seahawks. It's where they make their move in the division. Aminori was all over the place today. Like today, they felt a little Seahawksy finally, their defense. I know they gave up some stuff at the end, but it was garbage time. Watchables. Bertie's the MVP favorite if he pulls this off somehow.

Definitely. Watchables. Pat's Raiders, I think, is a watchable. It's in New England. Kirk Cousins coming to town. I've got to say, Cousins had some really good plays today. He had some in traffic where last year

and the year before he was turtling when there was pressure, And this time he was kind of moving around and buying himself like an extra second or two seconds. I thought he was pretty good. But a touchdown the cover, the back door was a miracle. He was really just, I couldn't even see him in the fray. And then he got out. Yeah, he was good. I have the Patriots favored by two and a half.

What's going on here? What is it? Why two and a half? You're going to get it because I said five and a half. It's three and a half. Hmm. What? Come on.

Come on. Pat's come. I don't like the spot coming out, the big win, and everybody's like, we've ridded the ship. And then, no, it's the Raiders. We'll be three and two after we beat the Raiders. And the Raiders are, I think, a good team. I don't think they're a great team,

but I think they're good. They can rush the passer. You know, they have Bowers as uncoverable, and he's going to be a nightmare for the Patriots. We don't have anybody to cover him. Wow. Isn't there something still with West coming east, and isn't there something still with the Raiders?

I think that's done. Like the Rams went to Philly. today and beat them. Well, the Rams are good. All right. In our Pickspo, I put in, I had doubled on the Rams today. And our buddy Gus was like, oof, West Coast going to East Coast in the early game. That's, that's risky. And I don't know if that's mattered in the same way the last couple of years. Maybe it's an old thing. Maybe it's an old thing. The planes are better or just matters when you go to Australia. Yeah. Well, this is it. The vibes are good with the paths. The vibes are good with the Raiders. Long story

history. 50 year anniversary, actually yesterday of when we beat them 48 to 17, 1976. Steve Grogan ran a mock. I put the video on Twitter. It was the first really good Patriots team of my life. And the Raiders

were the big bad Raider. No chance ever beat them. We killed them. And it was the first time everybody in Boston was like, holy shit, the Pats are good. I vividly remember this. being a kid, be like,

oh my God, the pads are good. And then they beat us in the playoffs on the Sugar Bear Hamilton. I watched it. It was Musburger doing the call

on the video. Yeah. Right? Yeah. And look at Steve Grogan. Now, not only, look at it like he was,

like he was, like this is the first time this happened. 287 yards passing. But watch this. Watch this. He runs for a touchdown. Yeah,

like a four-yard touchdown. He looked like Lamar. When you're watching his clips, he's flying around. The guy who posted that, what's his name? Kevin Gallagher?

I think so. Yeah. he's been posted that CoSell halftime highlights I feel like the NFL network should just run these from like two to four every day he was so into it

he was having such a good time just like and then Billy White Shoes Johnson brings the Falcons within three how about this a Howard CoSell channel you get the boxing you got boxing football

baseball baseball you get the the superstars, right? Battle network stars? All the wide world of sports. You get all the... Yeah. That should at least be a fast channel. Just co-sell.

Yeah. By the rights. We killed the Raiders. We should have won the Super Bowl that year. Oh, well. Well, this is also revenge for last year, right? This was the outlier game of the... Of 2025?

I feel like... This line's too low. This is dumb. Hmm. I feel like their inability to run the ball this season and the fact that they don't have a scary receiver other than Bowers, we should be able to game playing for it. But we'll see.

Packers are home for the Bears. I put this as a watchable because of the history of this matchup where neither team, we never seem to have both of these teams good at the same time. But I put it as a watchable because I feel like Caleb will be back for this game, right? I can't say anything because, you put your guess in already, right?

No, I bet I made my guess assuming he's coming back. So I made the Packers as low of a favorite as possible. Packers minus one and a half. It's exactly what I had. And we should have gone lower because the Bears are favored by two and a half. Okay, so he must be coming back.

Completely counting on him coming back. Yeah. Well, if that's the case, I'm betting the, I can guarantee I'm taking the Bears for Ring or 101. Really? Because I think they're... Four goes three.

Yeah. I think they're just talent-wise, just better than the Packers. They are right now. I don't like seeing this game this early. I want it to be miserably, brutally cold. They play again on Christmas. They should play two weeks before Christmas or something. It's too early.

Lions are at Arizona. I put this in the Tick-Tac zone. Lyons minus one and a half in Arizona, which is probably too low. Oh, you went way too low. Yeah. I said five and a half. It's four and a half. you know why I went too low

because I don't think the lions are good about that I don't think their defense sucks didn't we cross them off the Cardinals didn't we cross them off oh no I think the Lions defense sucks

yeah like the Cardinals should be able to move the ball up and down on that team true they should be able to run the ball they should be able to throw the ball this is where Brissette goes for 440 nothing's easy with the Lions like we said this last week

like if you have an eliminator pick to use like you're going to sweat out the Lions doesn't matter who they're playing if they're home. I feel like Campbell gets flustered when it's noisy. Even when it's home and noisy, he needs to speak.

It's like he's competing in the French Open or something. He needs it silent. Also notable, file this one away, Gibbs, who was 15 for 46 today and 4 for 31, but did not seem to have the same

umph that he normally has. They put a shitload of touches on him, right? He was on pace for like 500, touches and he did not normally do that. I wonder if that wore him down a little. I like the cards in that game. I think that's, what do you call the underdog on the Wise guy show, the man's best bet? Man's best bet. Yeah. The dog. That would be somebody who had the cards. Fairly watchables. Vikings at the Saints. The Vikings are prohibited from being anything higher than fairly watchables because their offense is an absolute cluster fuck to watch. I have them as minus one and a half point

favorites in New Orleans. The Viking, I had the same thing. And that's exactly what. what it is. Okay. Tyler Shuck, on pace to lead everything in fantasy points this year, if he has a big game tomorrow. Again, right? Yeah.

Just lighten it up. Jets Browns in Jersey. I have the Jets favored by minus one and a half. I don't feel good about it. You should. That's what it is. I said two and a half. I don't know when I went so high.

I wasn't buying this Browns thing, but it is one and a half. You get it. So why aren't you buying the Browns thing? You talked about a little on Friday. I don't know why. You know, I don't know why. And they have the rest advantage,

and they're going to the Jets who miraculously have an interception now. I don't know. You tell me, why don't I like the Browns right now? I just think this is a clown show with Watson. He can't. This can't be happening, right?

I know, but he's been competent for three weeks now. Okay. I think the thing with the NFL is if you hit two drafts in a row, you just have to throw out anything you think you thought or new or anything. It's just so easy to vault up if you have these nine to ten young guys that are above

average at position or in their case they nailed both the receivers you know, I don't know there's some energy around them. I think they could beat the Jets. Oh yeah, I think that line switches. I think that ends up being Brown's favorite in that game. Next one,

this could have been a poop fact of the game. Steelers, Colts in Pittsburgh. I really don't want to watch this. This will not make a TV for me. I'm going to be with House next Sunday. Oh, really? Where? House is coming in. House is coming L.A.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. We're all going to be with them. And you know what? Yeah. Steelers Colts will not be on the TV for House tonight. I won't have to convince them. I have Steelers minus two and a half.

Yeah, you're going to get it. I don't know why I was going way over on these. I said three and a half. Colt's another team I don't believe in. It's one and a half. So you get it. 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7 to 1, 3, 4, 5, 7 to 1, 3, 4, 5, including ties. Do you think when it gets closer to when it starts to get really cold?

Carly, yeah. Carly's on the sideline, like, probably bigger, like a parka at that point? Yeah. The other jacket? What's the wardrobe at that point? I don't know. Can you write? Can you write with the mittens?

I don't know if she gets scribble things down. Maybe you have to do voice text. She can be like my wife. When you walk with my wife and my wife's doing these voice texts, tell Krista that I'll meet her at 445. Because my wife doesn't want to type anymore. So maybe she goes to voice text. That'd be great.

And then the coaches have to respond the same way. So there's a headset and a Harley headset too. Wow. Somebody's got to talk to her. It's like she really cares. Can you, I mean, can you imagine when Stuyken, he must have like two drinks? And they're like with, he's with his buddies.

It's like, it's like his day off. Right. Let's deal with your owner. Like, does she talk to you during the games? Yeah. She's like, she's got the team. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

I don't. I, it's, oh, you ran on third and nine. That's the old ball and chain if I ever heard. I know what's going on here. She's like, she's like, Shane, come over. I was just, I was looking at our tendencies on third down. He's like, try to coach the game. My offensive coordinator is talking to me.

Why do you think, do you think in the job interview, she told him, like, I'm going to be on your ass. He's like, yeah, no, I get it. No, we all want to win. He's like, no, no, I'm going to be like bringing new pictures and stuff to look at. I wanted this to, can this happen in baseball? Can they just go in the dugout and sit next to the manager? Yeah. Are we hitting running?

Okay, Broncos Chargers is in L.A., and this is going to be a grim Chargers game because the Broncos fans travel well. I think there's going to be 35 to 40,000 Bronco fans in this game. There's going to be boo birds. If it starts out slow, it's going to be a bad week. I'm sure there will be trades and maybe even a firing

before we get to this. I have Broncos minus two and a half. I don't know what's wrong with me. Of course it should be around two and you have kidney stones and you're on heavy medication. I'm just cleaning up ever since you have the kidney stones. I had one and a half. Of course, everyone should give the chargers.

not even a home field. You're right. It's three and a half, so you get it. Okay. Three and a half. Sorry, Jacoby. I've failed them again. Yep. I mean, think how embarrassing that is if you're the Chargers. The Broncos who have 13, 13 points in the first half this year, one first half touchdown? Yeah. They're coming to your place. You need the game. Your season's over, but I guess it's technically in the line and you're not even like three point underdogs. I mean, This has to be a six-point swing from, like, the look-ahead in August. Yeah. And it's not even like Denver's great, right?

Like, this is a six-point swing, and it's all charger-based. Does anyone love the look-ahead line more than Rahim? Oh, they love it. He and the bundo. Like, if it's... In October, the look-head line on this was Chargers minus four. And what's really happened since then? Well, they're on that third string quarterback.

Yeah. Well, the Chargers got hit by the plague. Um, poop Fecta, three games. First one is Texans Titans. Texans going for their first win. Here comes Cam Moore three and 18 for the year. And, uh, Robert Sala and Brian Dayball. Salon Dayball.

Mm-hmm. I have Texans. I couldn't go higher than seven and a half. I have Texans minus seven and a half. We split it. I said five and a half. It is six and a half. That is.

humiliating if you're the Texans. You can't even be favored by a touchdown over the Titans. Do you see some of Cam Ward's plays today? Oh, yeah. Do you see the one when he was scrambling and tried to do the Paul crew lateral to the side to the guy who had no idea who was being lateral to? Yeah, yeah. Wow.

Yeah, everyone, yeah. And then the press conference, he was very mad because people weren't punctual. So one of these teams is going to be 0 and 5. If the Texans are 0.5, I don't have a good feeling about this game. I don't know. I'll tell you this. I'm not putting them in a tease. Me neither.

Yeah. Let's, let's, what's blood brothers do it. I mean, I don't, I'm not doing it. Is there a Temeco Ryan's conversation to be had?

The game management's been crappy. The defense is underperforming wildly. And that was supposed to be, you know, the thing that he was good at. When I watch them, I never feel like they have their shit together. They have dumb penalties and penalties the whole game.

and the other team's QB always seems pretty comfortable. Like this was all the stuff he was supposed to be good at when he was at D.C. and the stuff he was good at even last year. I don't understand why they went backwards this much other than expectations. I don't either. I really don't get it. You don't want to pull a plug on him because, right, he usually does make the playoffs. He's got a nice little record for making the playoffs.

If that's the goal in that junk division mostly. But some guys really need their specialty to shine, right? So if his defense is going to be anything, but forget about elite. Just don't give up some 27, 30 points a game, 31 points a game, and three to the first four. It's not good. Bengals Dolphins in Miami. This has all the makings of a five touchdown Joe Burrow game. A pad the statser.

you do have my permission to put the Bengals in the T's. I think I will. I have Bengals minus seven and a half. Damn it. Come on. Let me get one on you. That's what I had. That's what it is.

Seven and a half. That's a teaser. You know, I realize when you and I both had Bill Seahawks today that one of those teams was going to fuck us. Right. I tweeted it. I texted you.

And, of course, it was the Bill. Your team. Yeah, yeah. Maybe we have to have a coin flip for the Bengals. Let's figure it out. They could be down, like Higgins was banged up too, right? Are they going to be down both those guys? Just going to throw it to Goseki in the whole game?

I sadly watched both Dolphins games because I watched them last week against the Chiefs because we were Zoe's boyfriend. He was a Chiefs fan. And then I watched them today because it was one of the four games. They're not terrible. I mean, Willis is pretty terrible. But for the most part, they're not. Like, they make stops.

They run the ball. like Ali Gordon was pretty good today. They have wide receivers. You don't even know who they are, but occasionally they'll make a play. They play hard. They seem like they're pulling for each other. It's not as awful of a team as I thought they'd be.

Right. You want to uncross them? No. No, they're awful. I'm just saying like they're not. No, they'll break off like a 30-yard run somewhere. Yeah. Some of the like, oh, I can't turn that game off

and put the baseball on a full screen. Yeah. It's a bunch of guys who have something to prove at least. Who either have never done anything before or they're getting a chance they might not normally get. And they do play hard. Like they were in that Minnesota game. They were really trying to take it. Right.

And Minnesota had to work for a make couple of plays in the fourth quarter, but they hung around. Yep. Washington's home for the Giants. This is another game that will not make a TV. And I have Washington favored by two and a half. Who, do I get this? No, I don't. I said four and a half.

It's three and a half. We tie. I factored in Daniels because I assume he's back next week. I think he is. I don't. Yeah, if it's three and a half, you think they're thinking he's back? Well, Washington's not good. I don't know if you saw him today.

We're falling for the Giants thing again. Not falling for anything. I'm not betting on that game. Okay. Sunday night. Ravens at Atlanta. Atlanta can think about the seven times they had a chance to get Lamar Jackson and just didn't.

I have Ravens by three and a half. All right. I get this one. Not going to matter. It's four and a half. That's what I had. I think this could go up if the Falcons suck tomorrow against the Saints. Third.

This is it, right? This is their third primetime game. Second ones tomorrow. Because you think like the Falcons, we said to ourselves, this team is awful. Then they had a Thursday night game against the Packers who stink. Right. They beat the Packers. Then we're like, the Falcons are back.

Penix. Mm-hmm. I'm still gravitating toward the Falcons are terrible. Yeah. So we'll see what happens tomorrow. He definitely plays, right? Lamar, I know he has an ankle thing, but he'll play. Monday night.

If you notice, the slate was a little late, it's because the cheeps aren't a buy. Mm-hmm. And because this game is the Monday night game, Rams Bills. It's in L.A. Mm-hmm. I could be talked into going to this. That's true. Yeah, why not?

Not against going. into it. Anyway, I have Rams by three. I said one and a half. It's two and a half. So you complete the crushing here. My God, I don't even want to add them up. Sorry, Jacoby. Don't listen. If you haven't listened this far, Jacobi roots for me. I feel like this is, I'm basically beating

the third string QB. Like, I just beat the Rutgers QB. Because you're on all these meds. You're in pain. Yeah. I don't feel like this is like these are like real wins. I'll get with it. I got to get rid of this thing, though. You're right. It's enough. It's enough. Now, you won. It's fair and square. So what is this? 311 now through five? I'm 3101. I can come back. I got a plan. Today's parent corner is presented by Workday. Part of parenting is setting the rules and guard rail rails. You create them. And then your kids immediately try to find the loophole. I know your kids do this. But when it comes

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Yeah. Not to step on your parent corner, but our cousin Jimmy had shows in Brooklyn all week. What a fun time. You went back and you were with a lot of family. A lot of family out there. A lot of people claim to be family. And then you're just like,

all right, I must be your cousin. That's fine. A lot of loud times. talking over music after the show and everything. I'm not conditioned to that. But I came back. I haven't seen the kids, right, because I was there all week.

And then I come back and to add insult to whatever injury I have, it's 98 degrees here. And I have no air condition because we're told living a few blocks from the beach, you don't need it. Guess what? We need it. I'm done. I'm fighting the permits. I'm getting it done. So I told the kids, I'm like, I'm putting a fan on myself.

I had a fan on myself until like from the third quarter of the London game like all the way until now basically and I said you guys fend for yourself and so that's what they did. So I didn't really see them. So my kidney stone is my which is like a kid and it's got the word kid in it.

So that's my parent corner because I'm carrying like a baby here. So it's too big to pass and they're going to zap it. Right? So when you say zap it, what does that mean? So they put some kind of, they put some kind of,

I don't know what it is. I wouldn't even know what to call it, but they put it on my abdomen, which is where it is now. And they shoot as many as 2,000, for the lack of a better word, lasers into it to break it up. And if that doesn't...

Through your abdomen. Yes, through the abdomen. Now I'm out for all this, which is good, I think. And if that doesn't work, and they'll be able to tell right away, then they put something in my penis hole, and then they zap it that way.

And then I have to pass it. Then the fun stuff. begins. So that's it. So the pain, you know, right now, because I can't pass it, that's good. But the pain comes and goes because I still feel it. And I'm heavily medicated right now. I can't even speak.

So I'm basically a combo of like Brett Farve and Robert Downey Jr. In their prime. So that's good. At least it's in their prime. But my favorite moment in Brooklyn is Friday after the show. I get to meet the Mets owner. Steve Cohn comes to the show. It's very exciting.

You know? But it's nerve-wracking, too, because I'm like, all right, I have to delete like 200 tweets, just in case he looks up or his son looks me up here. And I don't know what to say to him. So, but we hit it off. It's great. Met with them. Fixing the 2027 roster with them. We're talking memorabilia. And then all of a sudden, here it comes.

Here comes the pain. I'm like, motherfucker. I got to get out of here. I have to. I'm going to pass this stone that they tell me I can't pass. it's going to be embarrassing. Not like he's not used to embarrassing situations, but he's going to sign the kidney stone to play first base.

I don't know what the hell is going to want to go on. So I half make up an excuse that I have a red eye to catch, which I did, but it was like four hours later. But basically in the middle of him speaking, I'm like, very nice to meet you. I have a red eye to catch. I get them out of there. And he must think I'm a basket case for ending the meeting there and getting out.

So you were right at the point. point where you're about to get all this Mets info from him. Yeah, of course. So how does this not happen on a podcast other than your earbuds didn't work and we had to go to an emergency break? What do you mean? Like the kidney stones. Like, why didn't you have pain like this as we're doing a pod? Because I timed it perfectly. I timed the medicine now. Now I could time it pretty well. The other day I couldn't time it. I don't know why I didn't. But maybe it was the excitement of meeting him. I've met you a bunch of times. I'm not as excited. But that's it. Yeah. So, yeah, so that's it.

I had to get out of there. Sorry, Steve Cohn and Josh, your son. But it was a really nice meeting you. What were the other highlights from Brooklyn? What do we do? So Babydoll for some reason went to Italy for... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Even though everybody is there,

he wasn't there until Wednesday night, but he claimed it wasn't his fault or something. Yeah. Was it his fault? Is that just negligence? Is baby retired? I think he's retired. We had the staff party Thursday after the show.

And there's a long of life, you know, he's like paying people to get him drinks. And, you know, like this assistant, Jimmy's assistant gets an apparel sprit. And he's like, ah, who's better than you, baby, aside from me? You know, he's always got to be. So there's a lot of that stuff. There's a lot of bragging about how much he paid for his trip to Italy. To Italy. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I didn't have to bend his arm at all, really, to get the. $90,000 number out of them. So that's it. But yeah, here you go. Yeah, he told me that number as well. Well, we had a highlight with Baby Doll.

There was this video on YouTube of the 1989 William Morris Christmas party that was an hour and a half long. Right. And we got to see Baby Baby Doll in his office. He's like 27. I think he was smoking. His assistant was smoking. And he's just in there for a half hour.

and we just were like in disbelief. Unbelievable. There's footage of baby, baby. They knew I was in the mailroom back then, but they knew I had superstar potential, baby. I mean, look at me. Look at that. They knew.

I was caring. I couldn't believe that the shocking thing to me was how much he hated R. Emmanuel's book. He's really trash in it. Yeah. Do you hear that? I hope he doesn't get in trouble for that. He's like, why did he write this?

What kind of ego trip is this guy on? He really should keep those things to himself. It was poorly written. He thought the stories were lame. He just didn't like any part of it. I wouldn't mind my ass with this day. Yeah, yeah. Very graphic.

He said he read half of it. He left it on the plane. He insisted the stewardess taken away. He didn't really do this. Yeah, I know. He doesn't care. You know what? Say what you want?

What are they going to do to me? Fuck them. I already did the deal. How much pizza was brought to the show for Jimmy? So every pizzeria in Brooklyn just gives him pizza? Yeah, because he'll thank somebody on Instagram or something. Then the floodgates open. So then it's like just a, there's like 47 pizza boxes, all different kinds.

It's good, man. I'm like 80% black and white cookie right now. And the rest is paying medication. But yeah, Thursday it gets done. I'm going to do a podcast with Tate. We're going to go over UCLA, Oregon. We're going to go over Georgia, Alabama. going to do Cowboys Bucks and I'm going to tag Rahiman and they're going to finish up the

rest of the podcast. Then I get go and get this done Thursday. I don't really have a parent corner this week other than I've seen my daughter a couple times and I don't, tell me if your wife does this. My daughter really loves going out to eat. She loves like lunch dinner or anything, but she goes online and looks at the menu and decides and basically goes through the whole process that you go and you sit down and the waiter's like, here's our menu. And you look at it. You're like, oh, I didn't realize you have buffalo chicken dip.

And she does it all ahead of time and plans almost like McVeigh planning for what his first 15 plays are for the Eagles. She knows everything that's on the menu. And she's like, I can't wait to try the fried pickles. I'm going to do the Caesar. I'm going to tell them. And she basically plans it out. And I can't decide how weird this is. I do that.

You do it? Yeah. So you look and you think about it? Yeah. I like the element of surprise. I know. I used to be like that. I think this is only in the last decade or so.

But because we have such access to pictures, too, I'm always looking at pictures. And if it looks like sloppy or something, I'm like, yeah, now I'm going to pass on that. I really think it's like, it's, it's, I'm sad if I make the wrong choice. You know what I mean? So you wanted, so ahead of time, you want to make sure you're covered that you're going to make the right choice. And I feel like I'm always led astray asking the waiter or waitress what they're because you ask them and it's what they like. It's not what you like. So I got to, I do my research ahead of time. Well, as a veteran of the food service industry, worked in a few different places. Yeah. The move for the waiter, it can't be what you like because everybody's different. It's much better to tell people what's popular in the restaurant. Like people really love, oh my God, they love these little chicken meatballs we have. I don't know why.

It's the most popular thing on the menu. Everybody, they come in, they specifically, I want Intel like that. I don't really care that you like the Brandzino, you know, because you might just like Brandzino. The worst is when they say they don't eat certain things, but still want to give it, like, well, I'm a vegetarian, but I really like the asparagus thing. Yeah, my boyfriend likes us. Yeah, yeah, or something like that.

Yeah, and then you also learn sometimes they push what they have a lot of left. Like the manager will be like, hey, let's get rid of the pennyawa vodka. We're loaded up, but we're backed up in the back. We got some 20 more brancinos. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so I think that's her biggest food quirk other than she really loves pickles. Pickles are good.

Yeah. Yeah. She has, so my mom sends her pickles and she just eats pickles, like all kinds. there's there's a place in the grove that sells pickles like she's really like a pickles connoisseur with like the honey mustard one is her favorite and my mom will send her stuff of pickles and different dips and then she'd be like my stomach hurts and it's like well you had i just watch you have nine pickles like i wonder i wonder i wonder why i think's but i think a lot of young girls because they're not fattening right you could eat a ton of them by the way someone

bought me a pickle at a month club if you want to you know christmas is coming up if you want to hit Zoe with it, it was a great year. Yeah, but here's the weird thing. When my wife was pregnant with Zoe, you know how the, when people are pregnant, they have like food cravings. One of my wife's things was pickles. So do you think that because she craved pickles that got transferred to Zoe or

Zoe craved pickles in her stomach and was telepathically telling her to get pickles because she, for her entire life, love pickles. It's like a chicken or an egg thing. It might be the second. I mean, Ben doesn't eat pickles, right? He was in that stomach, as you say? No, he does not eat pickles. Yeah, yeah.

I don't know. I don't think it's maybe the telepathic thing. Yeah, pickles are good. Ben has been working out for like four weeks and is the most jack person I've ever seen in my life. Really? You know these people that could just put on muscle like overnight? Yeah, yeah. It's like he looks like Marky Mark when he was doing the whatever that song, Marky Marky Mark

sang when he's wearing the jeans and he's, yo, what was that song called? I'm blanking. The pod's officially getting in a weird spot. Good vibrations. Good vibrations. Yeah, he's got like the Mark Wahlberg good vibrations body after like a week and a half.

Really? I don't know. It's not pickles, right? Yeah. Curls? I really need to adopt another kid or get another dog to beef up my parent corner. My kids are too old. You're good.

It's fine. You still have Harrison. You got a nice little run with him coming up. Yeah. Have a kidney stone. It's just as good. Just like parenting work works better when you have rules, guard rules and controls in place.

Workday is the enterprise platform for HR finance and IT that gets work done right. It's a new work day. Yeah. So next gen stats, brought to by Workday. So apparently don't get Ari's book because baby really hated it. You have to have him on to explain himself. How can one person hate a book so much?

He said he didn't even finish it, though. Maybe it got better than the second half. It also says, Bellany interviewed Ari on the town. Yeah. And it's one of the best podcasts we've had on the ringer in like five years. Really? They're just going at it for the entire time.

But it's almost like professional wrestling. They're not actually mad, but it sounds like they're mad the whole time. But it's like watching Rick Flair and Sean Michaels just like doing falls all over the place and beating the home. Oh, I got to listen. And Baby Dolls on Ventures. though? Baby doll was not mentioned.

Well, because Baby doll retired. Yeah. Okay. What do you got to plug? Anything? Well, you want to talk baseball real quick? I mean, you were right about the Red Sox. I'm sorry. I try to tell you and you didn't believe me. I know. It's just, we can't score runs.

It's very weird. I mean, the Cubs were the same way. You had two teams, gigantic fan bases and I think you scored, you both scored three runs in two days. Well, we had the biggest thing that happened this whole week was the go-ahead Homer or tying Homer or whatever was hitting the roof. and becoming it out. It would have been over. Yes, it would have been a go-ahead, Homer. Now, I don't usually like piling on the obvious narrative,

but what the fuck? It's the dumbest shit in the world that there's a guardrail up there. I mean, when the punter would almost hit the Cowboy scoreboard, that was like a big thing. This is really stupid. It's probably stupid that the roof was closed anyway in Milwaukee. It was 61 degrees. Yeah.

And the best part of playoff baseball for me is the directing, like pitchers blowing on their hands and fans with smoke coming out of their mouths and it builds so much drama and although I guess you couldn't get more drama than the ball hit the top of a guardrail and no one knowing what the hell it is. And the guy catching it.

Just like... Adjusting. But I mean, this happens in Tampa all the time. The Red Sox lost the game last month when this happened. Mm-hmm. When the Ray's hit a thing and it bounced down and the guy got a second chance

and then we ended up losing one nothing. So it's just kind of To me it's like part of the park But yeah well obviously But then they have to find out Yeah go ahead You hit a home run That's clearly going to be a home run

And it hits the side of the thing And it can't have happened that many times though right I don't think it has And they say you know they're like Well that would have been out at Finway and in Houston Or they had like two parks where it would have been out I'm like you don't know what the I mean the thing's still rising forever

That was a shot right I think like, really, you might be off by four feet the way you're, any metric we have looking at this. And then you have to figure out if it was going to be fair or foul. Like that's what the umpires are talking about. I'm like, oh, right. Yeah, good luck. Yeah, you got it.

Because if it's foul, it's a dead ball. Here's my question. We have ABS and all this other stuff. Why don't we have the technology that they could just figure out from the trajectory and the miles per hour if it would have been out if it didn't hit the roof? Yeah. Like they could easily figure that out, right? Well, figure out everything else.

They claim they did afterwards and that it wouldn't have been out. But what does that mean? Really? Maybe it hits the wall. Like maybe it hits the top of the wall or something. Maybe the game's still being played. Gus and I were texting about, I've been friends with Gus since 1982. And we've had baseball the whole time.

We were texting about how fucking weird playout baseball is now with these, how it just has to be a bullpen game. Right. And it's getting to the point where we take Sonny Gray out when he's had 14 outs. And he's like one of the five best pitchers in the American League. Yeah. And we take them out so we can bring in the lefty that. blew the game in the game before. Stupid.

Because somehow that's a better option versus leaving Sunny Gray. Because God forbid, it's got to be the third time around in the lineup. And it just feels like everybody's overthinking it. It's only missing Carly Ersay, just with notes next to the manager telling them what to do. Where is she? Oh, my God. She'd bring out the lineup card every, every other change, every two hours. I think Sunny Gray's had 14 outs.

By my notes, this is enough. All right. up a great point. And last, so last week asked me my World Series pick, I'm going Brewers over the raise and that pays 10 to 1

on Fandle. But your point is taken, like, it's ridiculous. Tonight, the Braves beat the Dodgers 3 to 2. That's a low scoring game. How many pitchers do you think were used?

Oh my God. It was, it was at least eight, right? Combined? Yeah. 13. Six for the Braves. Seven for the Dodgers. The Dodgers' starters

is Blake Snell. So you hear, oh, Blake Snell, Blake Snell, Blake Snell. He doesn't get out of the fourth, even though he's not even really in trouble. They take him out. There's 13 pitches. So how are we supposed to pick a winner?

That's my winner. But if there's going to be 13 pitchers a night, who the hell knows how this works out? I just don't like it. I really liked having starting pitchers. It feels like we zagged too hard. Yeah. You know, and it's never going to be

like Jack Morris put in the twins on his back in the game seven and throwing 700 pitches, whatever he did. but I definitely don't. I don't love it. I mean, other than that, I think the baseball has been really good.

The pitch clock's been fun. Sure. The matchups are good. The one thing that's amazing to me is how fast everyone throws and just how fucking hard it is to have baseballs. And you watch, like I'm sure you follow a couple of these Twitter accounts too,

but you watch like even somebody like Seaver, who was probably the best national league pitcher of the 70s. He's not throwing. throwing 101 miles an hour. He's on these different pitches. He's out there for 140, 150 pitches, some starts. And part of the art of starting pitching was trying to hold on when you don't have your best stuff anymore.

And now it's just gone. And then the next guy comes in who's throwing 99. Yeah. And I don't know. I guess it's the equivalent of when basketball with the three-pointers. It's very different. It slows the game down.

It's not, there's nothing like it because it's not like we see in the regular season, right? Where is there such a departure in the regular season to the postseason in any other sport? There's nothing even close to how they manage pitching staff. Well, could they make a rule like you could only use five pitchers for the first nine innings or something? That'd be great. Unless there's an injury. That'd be great.

They tweaked it so that it had to be at least three batters before you could switch. Like, maybe there's more they can do. I don't the Red Sox, first of all, the stats seem to think it is. good to just keep throwing new looks and new pitchers and different, you know, different arms over the course of three hours at the other team because it's harder for them to get in a groove. But it's just less fun for fans. It's less fun. And like you said, with Jack Morris and the workhorse is going to the 10th inning.

The best now you could hope for is like a Yamamoto pitches the 10th inning on two days' rest, you know what I mean? But just that inning. So it just how you watch it, it just changes how you. view of the sport. So you had Tampa and Milwaukee? Yeah, Milwaukee to beat Tampa is 10 to 1. I think Milwaukee's like the best in

baseball and has been for a while. And the race are going to have 100 wins probably after tomorrow. And they're the really only team with a home field advantage of 56 wins at home. I like that because Tampa is the best team I watched all year in the American League. Yeah. You know, if it's a 1-0, 3-2,

2, 1, they're just winning. They do all the right things. And Camerero is terrifying. And then they have these other guys, you're like, this guy's good, and then he'll just get a single or a double. But I like there to the most. They weren't an interesting situation with Rasmussen yesterday where it felt like he was going to take a no-hitter into the ninth, but he was over 100 pitches. So that's only happened twice, right?

Yep. The no-hitter in the postseason. In the playoffs? Yeah. And it's a weird conundrum of, it's better for the team probably to take him out and for him for the rest of the playoffs. But this is twice ever in the history of baseball. Like, you kind of have to go for it.

I bet they would have gone for it. It's a great moment. How many do you have? So they got a hit in the eighth? He was that like 104. Yeah. But he still had one more out to go. Oh, in the night.

Yeah. And this fucking Austin Wells, by the way. As you know, I'm in this Alekeeper League where we're from second. This guy was hitting 150 for like two-thirds of the year. And now all of a sudden is rope and line drives. Right. makes me mad. Does it know how to run the basis,

but does not run the basis. Definitely helped him out. Yeah, and also the raise have Freddie Peralta, who's a met and is now sticking it up our keysters. When I say hour, I mean, me and Steve Cohen,

because we're kind of run the team now. Well, when they traded for him, it was like, eh, he's sucked this year, but then people go to the raise and they get miraculously rejuvenated.

WMBA, I have a, I bet on the Aces to win, the title after after round one. Golden State beat them. I didn't watch the game because football was on

because WMBA hates casual fans and they just want to schedule all the games. They easily... What are they going to do, though? Every day's... No, you know what they could have done? They easily could have scheduled one of the two games for nighttime

so that at least you're only going against one NFL game and the rest of the baseball game, but you're in the mix is one of the three games. They just put them back to back against 14 NFL games. Right. That's just idiotic.

Mm-hmm. So. I'm with you. Maybe send these games to Europe and then have them on at like two in the morning for us. And then it's really not up against anything. This Golden State thing, they're an expansion team like two years ago. Yeah. They're the best defensive team in WMBA.

They're going against Asia who's the best part of the history of the week and it's just on a heater. And they win in game one and they still have, you know, it's a longer series in round two but it's pretty... I lost a lot of money betting them based on the... Oh, they're an expansion team. So I think for a couple of years,

the first couple of years, but yeah, solid. All right. Any plugs? Yeah, so Ring of Wise guys, Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday is a big preview show. The Friday show's been fantastic. It's a lot of fun.

It's really great. I listened to it at a 1.25 speed. Nice. The one this week was two hours. It was a good hour and a half of my walk around 100 degree. I had a great time. We try to speed it up

and then I'm like, all guys, if we don't want this to be an hour and 50 minutes, we have to do like five minutes a game and they're like, we don't have to. I'm like, great, that's fine.

Okay, we'll try to go, we'll go fast, but otherwise, if it's a two-hour show, that's just how it is. Every time you think it's speeding up, Rahim goes, you know,

the look ahead line for this game in August is minus three. Yeah. We do a lot of looking back before we look ahead. It's a lot of reflection. Yeah. Lots of bad beats this week.

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