The Bill Simmons Podcast - The Badass Knicks, Purdy on Trial, Lamar vs. Mahomes and Million Dollar Picks With Rob Mahoney and Peter Schrager
Episode Date: January 26, 2024The Ringer's Bill Simmons is joined by Rob Mahoney to discuss Kings-Warriors, a Golden State check-in, and NBA All-Star ballots (2:38), before discussing some positive Knicks buzz, the Eastern Confere...nce rounding into shape, the Suns, Clippers, and more (21:53). Next, Bill talks with Peter Schrager of NFL Network and Fox Sports about the NFL coaching carousel, and some serious coaches without jobs (45:10), before previewing Chiefs-Ravens (1:05:37) and Lions-49ers (1:21:31). Finally, Bill makes the Million-Dollar Picks for the conference championship round (1:42:08). Host: Bill Simmons Guests: Rob Mahoney and Peter Schrager Producer: Kyle Crichton The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming, please checkout theringer.com/RG to find out more or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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We're taping this part of the podcast.
It's 10 o'clock Thursday night.
We thought this was going to be an awesome NBA night.
It was okay.
It was C-.
It was, eh. Warriors-Kings, though. It was going to be an awesome NBA night. It was okay. It was C-. It was, eh.
Warriors-Kings, though.
It was very fun.
The Warriors heading into this game in the last 15 games
were 29th in defensive rating.
And at one point, the Kings looked like they were going to score 175 points in them.
The Kings ended up winning by one.
They win late.
The Warriors kind of botch a late-game possession.
You know, on the one hand, Kaminga is starting to turn into something for Golden State.
Absolutely.
On the other hand, their defense is so bad that I don't know what they do.
Rob, they were a top four protected pick to Portland this year.
And I don't think they're a contender and they're just in the all time.
I don't really know which way they go, but either way doesn't seem great, right?
Yeah, there's some funny things happening with the Warriors and the Lakers right now where
I think they're trending up in some really critical ways. And yet it might not matter
that much just based on where they're starting from in the standings. And the Warriors in
particular, you're right. Their defense has been
a disaster for most of the season.
They have a hard time getting stops against anybody.
Their energy is pretty good.
It's not an effort issue.
It's just they're very small. They're still not
athletic enough in a
couple key spots. And even though Kuminga's
popping, his defense
is all over the place. It's just that
offensively, he's kind of honed in on
what he does best and what he should have been doing this whole time.
Yeah, Kamiga's turned into
this old-school ISO.
He's out of 1994.
You could see him in the Eastern
Conference just clearing out on
one side and just trying to beat people off the dribble.
I don't think he really knows what he's doing
yet as kind of a
team defense player or just any sort of aspect of that.
But I like his confidence and he's at least something you can't look back at
that draft to go,
man,
we blew it.
We didn't take Franz Wagner.
Um,
cause I think Kaminga has got something,
but on the other hand,
his timetable and what,
where you want him to go the next four years,
I'm not sure it matches a team that has a
bunch of old players. I mean, the clay steps alarming. There was clay at one point I looked
at the box for like a minute left, he'd played 30 minutes and he had like zero assists and one
rebound or one assistant, zero rebounds. He just doesn't do that much. And that what was really
weird at the end of the game, the Kings were kind of leaving them open a couple of times,
which in the old days it was like, don't keep a guy, forget about the space, like just keep
somebody over there and just we'll give up one-on-one. But the Kings were drifting off him.
And if that's happening combined with Barnes was killing him on the other end, I just don't know
what value he brings to the table anymore. Well, this is one of the things that's happening kind
of across the league really over the last couple seasons, is defenses are so good now at closing short
against guys who can't really put the ball on the floor and attack. And that's where Klay is now.
Part of what made him so deadly was he was one of the best shooters ever. And if you close hard at
him, he's going to attack and drive and score or attack and drive and dish and get you into the
Warriors blender and you're going to be in trouble. All that other stuff is gone.
So, you know,
we've done a lot of hand-wringing about Klay over,
I always say the last calendar year in particular,
but really since his injuries.
In fairness,
he's still one of the better high-volume
three-point shooters in the league by percentage.
He still hits a lot of his shots.
It's just the defenses don't have to respect anything else.
And so then they can close
a little bit later
to the three.
They can play,
you know,
they can roll the dice
with stuff like that
in a game like this
where he's not on fire.
He's basically
Nets Joe Harris
at this point.
That's harsh.
But that's who he is.
He's,
you know,
a good three-point shooter.
I've,
I don't know that I've seen
Joe Harris hit a three-pointer
in the playoffs in my life.
So until that happens, I will give Clay a slight edge.
I'm just saying the theory of Joe Harris.
Yes.
And then they have this Draymond situation
where he's pretty good offensively today
and they need his playmaking,
especially with Chris Paul out.
But the nicer, gentler,
I'm trying to keep my emotions in check, Draymond.
I'm not sure that's how he's meant to play basketball.
There's a ferocity that's missing from him.
And defensively, he should be whatever,
the guy that lifts the rising tides.
Did I say that right?
The guy that lifts the rising tides? Is that?
Well, the guy that lifts the rising tides is the literal moon.
So as long as that's the guy we're talking about, then we're on track.
Well, I feel like I'm in the ballpark with that.
But he's supposed to be the glue guy in defense for them
and the guy who kind of makes everything better.
And I don't know if he's that guy anymore.
I think he's pieces of that guy, but he's not the...
I don't think he moves the same
and has the same lift
as he did a couple years ago.
I still think he's valuable,
but I just keep watching him
on this team
and it just feels like
it's run its course
and I wonder if
it's good for him
and for them
if there's a fresh start
somewhere else.
It could be,
but I don't know that he's gonna
lift the level of play
anywhere else
any more than this. His synergy with at least Steph and with some of the core warriors is still really good and really important. I don't know that if you send him to a team with a bunch of young talent and hope that he's going to teach them the culture of playing defense, is that really going to work for a guy who's had his string of issues, his own string of accountability problems at this later stage in his career
where individually he's not at the level
he was a couple of years ago,
it's just always going to be a hard sell with him
in terms of figuring out
what an alternative spot could be.
And the Warriors are still dependent on him in some ways.
They're still dependent on him
to get Steph the looks that he needs and wants
in some of these games.
So there's can't trade him a bull,
and then there's untradeable,
meaning nobody wants this guy.
And then the other version is we can't trade this guy.
He means too much to us.
He might be both.
Somehow both?
Somehow both and neither.
I'm trying to walk through this scenario
where another team,
and it feels like it would be an older team,
like a Lakers type of team
that has proven guys that
could kind of pull him into the
fold and then he could
because he has experience
in his playoffs and then you could unleash certain
pieces of him. If you send him to
I don't know, Orlando.
If you don't need any help playing
defense down there, they're doing just fine.
Right, but that's my point. That doesn't't make sense to me a young team on the rise
that's the type of team right or you said like indiana well that doesn't make sense because they
don't play that and you go through all the teams yeah it's really hard to find the right team and
then you start going the drop below the teams that are either rebuilding or you know probably
trying to get a top seven pick.
And none of those teams make sense for me. There's like, send them home to Detroit. Well,
why? Detroit's terrible. Why would they want Tremont? So it feels like the Warriors are
probably stuck with them, which might not be a bad thing because if he can rekindle this thing,
but I was, I made a joke to somebody on text today that it's like watching Skip Bayless try
to do a show and just be like, I'm not going any crazy takes i'm just gonna be nice yeah i'm gonna try to uplift
the sports scene instead of doing my skip bayless shtick skip bayless on good morning america just
real real genial guy right he replaces nate pearl nate burleson on the cbs morning news
and he's just interviewing people who just escaped from being trapped in a well, and he's just pleasant. Honestly, Woodwatch.
You give that a try. But yeah, the Draymond, I don't know how he channels the rage that made him
so indispensable to them and so much fun to watch. And that tightrope act he was always on,
where he just started falling off the tightrope. So I don't know how you get back on it. Well, the news for that, whether it's good news,
I think depends on your perspective. As much as I would like to believe in mankind's infinite
capacity for change, I would say it's a matter of time until we see old Draymond kind of pop
back out again. So that energy, I would expect to be back at some point. The one trade element we
haven't talked about is maybe the most important one,
which is just,
who is the most desperate for something?
And that's where you get into teams like Atlanta.
That's when you get into teams like,
if Dallas went on an extended losing streak
or something like that,
or even further down the line into the offseason,
they really wanted to shake things up in their frontcourt.
You could see teams like that
start to talk themselves into someone like Draymond.
Again, as a culture setter, as someone who could potentially transform what you do and be a
connector on offense. But you almost need that level of desperation and urgency to pull the
trigger on a trade like this. And I think if you're going state, you probably want contracts
that are coming to a close and you want to get under the tax. I mean, the irony of that, they're 36.9 million over the tax line.
So they are where you really don't want to be in the NBA,
where you don't have a chance to win the title.
You might not even have a chance
to make any noise in the playoffs,
and you're paying the tax.
That's it.
That's the triple crown.
Yeah, you mentioned Dallas,
because it doesn't feel,
they have some,
you know, the Grant Williams
signing has been I think a disaster for them they still have Rashawn Holmes who doesn't play but
they they could kind of patch together some shorter term contracts and say to go and say like hey we'll
take them uh I just don't know if Draymond's at the we'll take them stage and I also don't know
their appetite of even like are they are they just going to say,
we're going to go down to the ship with Steph and Clay and Draymond.
These are our guys.
They're all going to have statues someday.
And we're going to ride this out.
And this is how it ends.
It's never supposed to end well.
But the defense to me is the stunning piece with that team.
Where the Kings almost didn't know where to go.
They had so many options.
The fate of Northern California
almost came down to Harrison Barnes post-ups in this game.
That's where we were at.
Harrison Barnes, by the way,
I would say one of the more random
back-to-back 30-plus point game stretches
I've seen in a very long time,
just out of absolutely nowhere,
started erupting lately.
Yeah.
A lot of good things happening for the Kings,
but I did not have that one on my bingo card.
Jared Greenberg, after the game,
he's the sideline guy,
and he led a question with Harrison Barnes,
like, hey, this is the team that traded you.
Does it feel good to get revenge?
And I always want the athlete to answer,
like, hey, man, that was 2016.
It was eight years ago.
Like I barely remember being on this team.
Like, no, I don't care.
I've made $200 billion.
I'm fine.
Don't worry about Harrison Burns.
But he didn't answer it that way.
The revenge they might've cared about though,
I would imagine if I were Damanis Sabonis,
it would feel pretty good to barge through Draymond Green
once or twice and put my chest through Kevon
Looney and dunk on him after what happened in the playoffs
and maybe even more importantly, hit
a couple floaters, hit some intermediate shots, hit
the exact stuff the Warriors have been daring
him to do for a long time.
The Kings, I think they don't have a lot
to prove in games like this at this point. They're
just a good team, but it's always nice
to gut out close games against veteran
competition,
especially when there is that kind of back and forth
at the end.
Kevin Herter,
I would not say
covered himself in glory,
missing two free throws
in crunch time,
but they got the baskets
they needed to
and they got the critical stop
forcing Steph
into that turnover
at the end too.
Yeah, I mean,
that was almost
a self-inflicted
unforced error turnover.
Steph looked like,
where would you put
on his prime? Would you say tail, where would you put on the,
his prime?
Would you say tail end?
Would you say approaching
the tail end?
Would you say he's fine,
this team is just messed up?
Where would you put him?
Because it's definitely,
you know,
when you're at your absolute peak,
which you compare him to guys
like Giannis and Jokic
and people like that.
When you're,
when you're a top 20,
top 25 NBA player
at the peak, peak, peak of your powers,
you're good every night.
It's shocking if you don't have a good game.
Your average game is an awesome game
and that's just who you are.
And it doesn't even, even the Knicks game tonight,
the Nuggets get killed by the Knicks,
but Jokic wasn't like awful in that game
because he doesn't have awful games.
He's Jokic.
Curry's at the stage now where he can have awful halves and awful games. It feels like it's moving
to a different point of his career, but I would also not be surprised if February comes and he
averages 39 points a game and goes on a run again. Yeah, it's just everything. When you're at that
stage in your career, everything isn't in your control anymore. It's a little bit more about matchups.
It's a little bit more about how your teammates get
you open or how they cover for you.
Just the fact that, you know, the Western Conference All-Stars
were announced today. Steph Curry is not one of
the starting guards. And we're not outraged?
I don't think anyone's really going to argue
with it, to be honest with you. Like, that's
just the facts of the season. And I think he's
still probably, you know, a second
team, all-NBA kind of player. Like, he's still probably a second team, all NBA kind of player.
He's still that good. He's just not
quite at this level as
what SGA is doing, as
the load that Luka is carrying.
The responsibility on him is still really great.
But in terms of
what he can do creatively, individually,
there are limits to it. And we're seeing it.
Yeah.
I laid out all my starters
because I had a vote for the starters
but I was also curious about the tiers of
alright, my five starters,
who are the next five guys
and then who's up for the next two spots.
And it was interesting.
I had Fox about a hair ahead of Curry this season
on my list.
Did Sabonis make your list?
Sabonis made my list. Did Sabonis make your list? Sabonis made my list.
He did not make the starting list,
but he's like the next group of dudes.
And the question for me is,
there's that Fox, Curry, Booker, Edwards,
those four together.
And the starters,
I don't think I have to go until next week.
I like to have at least three guards as the backups for the starters.
Plus, it's the All-Star game, you want guards.
There's a world where Curry isn't even one of the four non-starter guards.
Because Booker, especially lately, I think has been playing better.
Edwards has been on a number one seed the whole year.
You would probably say,
their most important player.
And then Fox has been slightly better.
Just percentages, numbers,
his team's playing better.
And there's a world where Curry doesn't make it,
but it's the all-star game,
and I feel like it will.
It's the same reason LeBron started for a night.
But is that nuts to even have that conversation?
I think he's going to make it.
And I think honestly,
when you lay out the West reserves,
both wildcard spots will probably be guards.
Unless it ends up being a Fox or Sabonis thing
and one of those guys gets one of those wildcard spots,
which I think that's a fascinating argument to have
as far as you're assigning credit
for how good the Kings are
and who you want to prioritize,
whether it's Sabonis being the hub
for them or Fox being this kind of just
hyper-efficient individual
creator for them. And also notable,
just one of the best three-point shooters
in the league, all of a sudden.
Incredible to watch Darren Fox play.
I think Steph has to be in there.
But if
things had started a little earlier
for the Clippers and James Harden, for example,
could he have had an interesting case?
If the Jazz had caught on a little earlier
and Lowry Markkinen were making an even stronger march
than he already is for All-Star,
would he butt in for a wildcard spot?
I think there's lots of ways
in which you get edging on that conversation.
I just don't think Steph would be the casualty for it.
I think it would be much more likely
to be one of the Kings guys or one, you know, Paul George or someone like that who
would get kind of nudged out of the mix. There's too many. I like that it's 12. I hate that people
are like, oh, we got to make it 15 so more people can make it. We don't need more people in the
All-Star game. 12 is enough. We don't in the Eastern Conference, I can tell you that. Yeah,
right. So, I had AD
and Kawhi as starters, and neither of them
ended up as starters. It went to Durant
and LeBron. So, AD and Kawhi
are 6-7.
Sabonis
is 8.
And then, technically, you could say
Edwards, Fox, Booker, and Curry
all get in, but now you're bumping out
Paul George, you're bumping out Sang George. You're bumping out Sangoon.
You're bumping out Towns.
There's a budding Jalen Williams case
that I don't think he's going to make it,
but man, eye test wise,
it's harder to think of 12 guys
that are better two-way players than him in the West.
And then you look at all the shooting splits for him
and some of the advanced stats,
and it's like, if Jalen Williams had a better PR,
he might actually be at All-Star Reserve.
He's not going to make it.
No.
But I think he's kind of lingering there, too.
And then marketing would be the other one.
Yeah.
The one I'm watching, too, is Rudy Gobert.
Will Rudy Gobert,
the leader of the number one defense in the league
with a bullet,
will he make the all-star team?
And I think the fact that it's going to come down
to the coaches is what makes it so fascinating
because Rudy Gobert's peers
don't always have the utmost respect for him.
I don't think he gets an incredible fan representation
in the vote,
but the coaches value what he does.
They value the stability of a guy like that
on an every night basis
and certainly in a league
where nobody can stop anybody.
The one team that can,
Gobert has a really strong case
to be involved in this game.
It's too bad we can't do backyard dealings on this
and be like,
Rudy, we're going to vote you in as a reserve
but you're going to fake an injury
two minutes after we do
because nobody wants to watch you in the All-Star but you're going to fake an injury two minutes after we do because nobody
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want up and down. Let them do the skills challenge and we'll call it good. We'll take a break. Then
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Alright, so we were talking All-Stars
and in the East,
Brunson didn't make it.
Dame Lillard made it.
There's some, what is it, fans,
it's coaches, and it's media.
It's also me.
I am the problem.
And you?
I voted for Damian Lillard.
I, like,
it's an excruciating decision between,
I would say, Donovan Mitchell,
Jalen Brunson, and Dame, but
I still like the season Dame's
having. I know I'm preaching to whatever the
opposite of a choir is on this one.
Wow, I want to hear the case.
This is great. Let's hear this.
The case is, the Bucs are one of the most efficient
offenses in the history of the league, and
they are efficient not because of great coaching,
not because of a super well-designed roster,
but because Giannis and Dame are
fucking good, basically all the time.
And Giannis, like, Dame's percentages
night to night do fluctuate,
but his impact on the game is still high
in all those cases. Still, like,
secures a lot of games in crunch time,
and overall is one of the architects of that
offensive success. So, I value
that stuff pretty highly.
So, you wanted two bucks in the starting five
is what you're telling us.
I don't think of it that way.
Why not?
There's 15 teams in the league.
You got to be a really good team
to have two of the five starters
in a 15-team conference.
I mean, the Lakers are going to have two all-stars.
I don't feel great about that either.
I thought AD should have gotten the spot.
And then to me, LeBron was on the bubble.
But he made it as a starter, so it doesn't matter.
I had Brunson, which leads us to the Knicks.
Here's my question for you.
The Knicks are 11-2 in January.
In the last 16 games, first in defensive rating by like a mile.
Like they have been the best defensive team now
for more than a month.
Is Knicks culture the new Heat culture?
Because the Heat got annihilated tonight by Boston.
Now granted, you know, whatever,
it's the Heat, it's the regular season.
But the Knicks have done their own version
of what the Heat did.
The type of players the Heat target and go after and the type of people they put together
and the Knicks have basically said to everybody, you have to
be able to play defense to play for the Knicks. You have to play hard
and you just have to be diving for balls and you'll be able to
switch and just fight. If you can't do that, you're not playing.
They added OG.
They're 11-2 in January. They feel like they're a trade away from being kind of a nightmare first round opponent. And I'm starting, I have Knicks fans in my life who are beaten down, who don't
want to believe, who don't want to get sucked in. And all of them are like, I really like this team.
I really like where this is going. I am super happy as a Knicks fan right now.
Where do you stand?
I think they're a trade away from being something much more dangerous,
but they're already a nightmare first round opponent.
This is a team that no one should want to play
in the regular season or the playoffs.
Because the Knicks, I think what their defining characteristic is,
is they do not fuck around.
They show up, they play hard, they have intense focus.
They don't give you things.
And yeah, there's some times
where their offense kind of spins its wheels
or it's a little too much Julius Randall time
or maybe a little undersized on the perimeter
with some of their groups.
But they give a shit in a league
where there's a lot of unserious teams
in the regular season.
And you could see it in this one,
that the Nuggets were not prepared
for this level of physicality in a random January regular season. And you could see it in this one, that the Nuggets were not prepared for this level
of physicality in a random January
regular season game, even during
rivalry week registered trademark.
I don't know what the Nuggets-Knicks rivalry is,
but there must be one somewhere in the books.
Nuggets-Knicks, let me think.
Now, I'm out of ideas.
I don't know how that one works.
Nuggets at the end of a road trip
and it was like one of the
they were like in the pickup game where there was that
one guy on the other team trying too hard
and guarding everybody full court and they're like
dude I'm hung over
can you leave me alone well that guy was
OG Ananobi and I think he's gonna be
in Jamal Murray's nightmares for a really long
time like he is such a big part
of how the Knicks physicality
can just rock you on your axis as a team.
Yeah. And I've been thinking about
this too with the way
defense is officiated right now and just how
the way offense is exploding.
The real defensive
difference makers,
they just feel immensely valuable
and even far and away than they did
before, far and away more than they did before.
And it might only be like three or four guys
in terms of perimeter players
who can actually do stuff like this.
And I think OG is clearly one of them.
He can neutralize a matchup.
He can zero out a player as dangerous as Jamal Murray.
And if you can get one of those guys
or develop one of those guys,
that is a transformational experience for your team.
So that's why the Knicks were good
and they were competent.
But now they're really dangerous.
They're a team that if you're a contender
and you see the Knicks as your first round opponent,
they could ruin your season really easily,
even if they themselves aren't necessarily a favorite
or a co-favorite to win the title.
We did the, didn't we do the,
I came on, were you on that pod?
Yeah, yeah, for the emergency trade pod.
The emergency pod.
It was me, you, and Barrier, right?
Absolutely.
And we all liked the trade for the Knicks.
And we all thought OG was the best part in the trade.
And we all thought the theory of the trade we liked.
Since we did that pod, I think the trade has turned out way better than I thought.
And I think the thing that I don't think we of us gave enough credit to is you're kind of wasting that dude
on a 500 team or a team that doesn't have
this kind of identity. Now, he just makes sense on this team.
When you think about him in the playoffs, I think one of the things that's scary about them is
pick the team. You could probably throw OG
at whoever the problem is.
Could he guard Embiid?
Could he guard Embiid in a series? I think
he actually could. Tatum,
Brown,
nobody guards Giannis, but he could
at least try to take
charges from
him. Miami, you could throw him on anyone
in that team going down the line.
Now that they have that, I want to know what the next trade is because they have to trade
Fournier now. They're pretty close. And Fournier is making 18. They can get to basically 20, 22,
24 in a trade and get one more guy. But for me, it has to be a guy that fits into what they've
created. Like it can't be like, oh, we can finally, we have a mulligan here, we can
acquire Zach Levine.
We can get away with one guy who doesn't play defense.
I don't think they want to be that way. I think they
want to, from what I've seen,
Tibbs seems super happy.
The look on his face
when he sat down at the press conference
tonight, it was like
the serial killer at the end of the movie
about to give his monologue in the interrogation room. That's what it was like the serial killer at the end of the movie about to give his monologue in the interrogation room.
That's what it was.
The end of the Fincher miniseries.
Yeah, this is the team he wants.
So anyone else they trade for,
I think has to come in
and have that same kind of intense thing.
Maybe it's DeJounte Murray.
I don't know.
He's another one that I wonder,
in the right kind of atmosphere,
could he rekindle some of the defense we saw from him in San Antonio
we've not seen in Atlanta, but
they're clearly going to make a
deal. I think the crowd really helps
too for the type of team they have.
And I think I'm going to go next
week, next weekend, because we're in New York
for the rewatchables, the live show, and they're
playing the Lakers on Saturday.
I want to see it. I want to, you know, I've seen
that crowd in various stages
of either just complete sadness, bitterness,
or kind of like over-hopefulness
compared to what the actual product is.
But they're just dying to have a team they like.
And it seems like they like this team.
Rando is the X factor.
Yeah.
He can be a lot,
but in games like this,
he's flexing on Nikola Jokic
getting putbacks, right?
When his game is properly aligned
and relatively in balance,
we know who he can be
when he's just hitting every jumper.
That's great,
but it's more about the replicability
of how physical he can be,
how dominant he can be going to the basket
in addition to that kind of
yo-yoing pull on a defense from being able to shoot. So if he can do a how dominant he can be going to the basket in addition to that kind of yo-yoing pull on a defense
from being able to shoot. So if he can do
a little of all those things, and
Jalen Brunson has just been such an efficient
driver of that offense. So good
at getting into the lane, creating
problems, and also another one of these guys
who's just a really successful emerging
three-point shooter at pretty good volume this
season. They're so dangerous.
They're really hard to play,
even apparently when they're down to their third-string center.
Jericho Sims is out there giving Nikola Jokic the best he's got,
and that's good enough to win by nearly 40 points.
And some Precious.
Precious is getting thrown out there.
Here, Precious!
A little Silence of the Lambs action.
Right now, the Knicks are fourth.
That would put them in a Cleveland-Knicks series
that I'm not sure I want.
I don't think the Cavs want it either.
Yeah, I think we should shake the snow globe on that one.
But it would be really fun if Philly had
just bounced back a tiny bit
and all of a sudden Cleveland kept descending
and then we could just get Knicks-Philly in round one with just an absolute shitload of pressure.
The Cleveland piece of this, so Cleveland is now 26-16.
They did lose their last game, but they were second in defensive rating over that 15-game stretch.
And it feels legitimate, and it feels like they finally got Jared Allen.
A month ago, we were wondering if Jared Allen,
if OKC could just get him.
Just be like, could Cleveland maybe make him available?
He should get some all-star buzz as a reserve, I think.
Jared Allen's been really, really good.
As important as anybody in this resurgence,
I know Mitchell's numbers have been flashier,
but Jared Allen's really critical to the way they function,
clearly on defense,
but even as a hub on offense too.
There's that old saying in sports,
sometimes you're an injury away.
And maybe the Mobley-Allen
together thing
doesn't make a lot of sense.
Not that,
oh, this leads to us
trading Evan Mobley.
It's just maybe it was just better
for Jared Allen
to just be the only big guy.
They definitely get some clarity
every time they
space out and start playing a little smaller
and slightly better shooters,
however much they can get on the floor.
It's not an accident that this stuff happens.
I think we all understand, the Cavs included,
that that's the ultimate trajectory of the team.
It's just, can Evan Mobley be the five?
And if he can't, then you have to
start answering some really hard questions.
The East feels like it's falling in a place
because the Celtics and Milwaukee
are going to be one-two
unless there's some sort of crazy Celtics collapse.
Philly's probably three, but who knows.
Nick's Cleveland right underneath them.
And then Indiana, probably six,
but lingering a little.
And then you go to the 7, 8, 9, 10,
where Miami,
every time you feel like,
all right, here we go.
The Celtics just crushed them today.
The Celtics shot the lights out, but Miami also looked like
they didn't totally want to be there,
that they didn't realize it was on TNT.
It was a very strange performance.
Rozier was terrible in his first game.
But you have Miami and Orlando and Chicago and Atlanta
in that 7, 8, 9, 10. And then really no threat underneath because Brooklyn's 17 and 27
going the wrong way and probably has to start selling for parts. It was pretty bad. They lost
to the Knicks the other night at home. All the Knicks fans were there and Bridges was just super
bummed out after like, ah, it sucks to play a road game when you're home.
That is tough.
Well, that's what happens when you put a second team in New York,
a city that only cares about the Knicks.
These are the things that are going to happen.
You know what, though?
They almost stole this game tonight from the Timberwolves.
And I think that says more about the Timberwolves and crunch time
than it does about the Nets.
But credit to them.
Nick Claxton in particular.
I thought it was a great game.
Yeah, so, and that came down to Bridges missing
another misfree throw in crunch time.
Yeah, it's pretty rough.
Minnesota is dying for us
not to believe in them.
They're really trying sometimes.
And yet they're 32-13
and they're the one seed in the West.
But I don't really fully believe in them in crunch time. And you could tell me that they're 32 and 13 and they're the one seed in the West. But I don't really
fully believe in them in crunch time. And you could tell me that they're going to lose in round
one and five. I wouldn't be shocked. So it feels like they're a trade way in half. There's just a
lot of teams that are trades way in half. Wait, I got off the narrative on the East. Oh yeah.
Miami 24 and 21. Have they just thrown away the regular season? This is who they are.
We don't care.
We'll be there in April, May, and June
and that's what we do.
I wish I could believe that
with this version of the team.
But I think this Heat team
is lesser than last season's team.
And in particular,
I don't think they are as Heat culture-y
or as hard-nosed as that team was.
There's like a little something missing
in terms of the edge of this group.
And maybe that is just them saving their legs
in the regular season.
But Miami Heat, please score a basket.
Like the way this offense struggles
against set defenses is kind of infuriating
for the talent that they have.
Like the number of possessions that boil down
to Tyler Hero taking a quick, early,
semi-contested three. Even
on the night he's hitting, I just
find a little distressing for what this team
could be doing. I know it's not the most talented
offensive group, but they're more talented
than this. Well, they've
had the worst point guard situation in the league
until Rozier.
Jaquez goes out recently
and you really feel the absence.
That's the other thing.
This game didn't even count.
Jaime Jaquez didn't play.
Right.
Doesn't count as a win for the Celtics.
Doesn't count as a loss for the Heat.
We erase it from the record books.
Well, two things did count.
One is that they threw a zone at the Celtics,
which worked last year.
And this year the Celtics are like,
hey, we have Drew Holiday and Chris Epps for Zingastown.
This ain't working anymore.
So that was a disaster.
The other thing was Porzingis went down and limped off.
And this has been the eggshells of the entire Celtics season.
It's just, you're just trying to get through
every regular season game with nothing to do with Porzingis.
These tall dudes, whether it's him or Wemba Nyama
or even somebody like Chet,
these tall, skinny guys that they're in the air
and they're landing and you're just always worried
they're going to land on a foot or land the wrong way.
And it finally happened with him.
It seemed really bad.
And then he showed up back on the bench later and he was laughing.
But it's just going to be an absolute Ben Affleck and Triple Frontier type of situation
getting him to April.
Just let's get him in.
Let's throw him in the unmarked van with no windows and see if we can getting him to April. Just let's get him in. Let's throw him in the unmarked van with no windows
and see if we can get him to April 11th.
But with that said, he is
you saw it tonight. I think he is an impossible
matchup for Miami. I just don't think they have
a size for him. I think
the Celtics-Heat matchup
I think is fundamentally different with how talented
the Celtics are now.
When the Celtics-Heat matchup, I think, is fundamentally different with how talented the Celtics are now. When the Celtics play other jump shooting teams, there's really not a lot of chance for those other teams.
Because, yeah, the Celtics get ebb and flow, but if you have a similar shot profile to them,
and Miami doesn't get to the basket, they rely on a lot of mid-range stuff, a lot of long-range stuff.
How are you supposed to keep up with this?
With this level of talent and this kind of layered talent?
Where the thing about Chris Stapps
and why his injuries are so damaging,
he's like the consequence
for whatever your defensive scheme is.
If you want to switch,
he can post guys up
from the free throw line or in.
If you're showing really hard
or trapping guys like Tatum and Brown
or Derek White and Drew Holiday,
he's popping out,
hitting tons of shots
at a really high rate.
Whatever you want to do,
he is the hammer.
And so if you take that out of Boston's system,
then maybe they're kind of beatable.
Maybe they're kind of manageable
for some of these other jump shooting teams.
But Miami, I think they would have to dramatically change
how they play to beat the Celtics right now.
Well, the Rozier trade was a good start.
It was certainly, he's a lot better than Kyle Larris.
Quickly, Clippers, Suns,
who are you more dubious of right now?
I'm always more dubious of the Suns.
And I don't trust the health, the defense.
Like the numbers when those guys are on the court,
awesome, amazing, love it, love watching it.
I cannot trust all of them to stay healthy.
And by all of them, I mean not only the three stars,
but Yusuf Nurkic and Eric Gordon, and
a long...
It's like a house
of cards or a long string of dominoes
in which if literally any piece
falls out of place, any card falls out of place,
it's so delicately arranged,
I worry about the integrity of the
whole thing. So I worry about them
far and away more than the Clippers.
I've really enjoyed watching
Beal on that team the last two weeks. His fit's been really nice. He's really playing hard for
them. It's about as hard as we've seen him play in a while. And he just feels like, I'm going to
be additive. I don't need the ball too much. I'm going to be fighting. I'm going to be trying to
take charges and fighting for offensive rebounds. I'm unselfish. And he's put some real thought into it.
Everything I've heard is that he's been a real leader behind the scenes too.
And, you know, same thing with James Harden.
Like everyone said, James Harden's been an awesome leader.
He works with the big guys.
He shows up first.
It's just that the NBA, it's like high school.
It's like, wait, I thought those two weren't, didn't they get into a fight junior year? No, no, they're friends now. Like, it's just, it's like high school. It's like, wait, I thought those two weren't,
didn't they get into a fight junior year?
No, no, they're friends now.
Like, it's just, it's a rollercoaster ride.
You can't keep up.
James Harden's happy.
Bradley Beal's a leader.
Kyrie, no drama at all.
2024, man.
What a year.
Maybe Ben Simmons can come back.
You buying the Clippers as,
I can actually see them in the finals?
I can definitely see them in the conference finals.
I would still have a hard time seeing them beat the Nuggets.
I know that may seem crazy to some people after watching the Nuggets on a night like tonight where they did not have it, but I'm not worried about Denver in the playoffs.
They're still my favorite in the West, I think by a pretty wide margin.
As for the other teams, I would say OKC is probably my next up.
And then probably a Clippers versus Wolves conversation where
it depends on who's
kind of baggage
you want in terms of the crunch time execution
for teams like the Timberwolves in particular.
Ant waved off Cat
in crunch time of the game tonight and then airballed
the shot from the corner immediately.
There's some stuff like that that they do that
for as much as I like the arc
of who Ant is and what he's
doing as a decision maker concern me.
But is that worth betting?
Is that worth
downing versus what's
happened historically with James Harden?
Or what's happened historically with Kawhi Leonard
and Paul George's bodies over the course of long
playoff runs? I think I'd probably
air Clippers in the third
power ranking spot in the West right now
with all due respect to the Wolves in the season
that they've had, but we're getting into some pretty
close territory. We're kind of splitting hairs, I think,
at that range. Yeah, if you
told me Kawhi will be healthy all the way
through June, I'd be like, okay.
I'm taking that seriously. Then to me,
it's Clippers versus Nuggets.
I'm with you on the Timberwolves.
Even some of their defensive stuff,
they were dominant the first 15, 16 games of the year.
And that slid down a little bit.
They're still top five, top six.
But I wouldn't say they're dominant.
And there's some knucklehead stuff with them.
I mean, that stuff the other night was absolutely alarming.
Last thing, where did you stand on this Doc thing?
In what sense?
Did you feel like this was a team
that actually needed to change their coach
when you watched them?
I feel like the team that needed him
was TheRinger.com and the Bill Simmons podcast.
And he abandoned us, right?
Like he just walked away in the middle of the season.
There's nothing sacred.
And I just don't think Wes Unsell Jr.
is going to have the same impact on Tuesdays on the pod.
We'll find out.
I don't know if he has as many stories as Doc.
Yeah, listen.
What a great situation to walk into, to coach.
I've been thinking about it, obviously, for two days.
And you can see how he got sucked into it.
I did a little Instagram walk and talk the other day and I was saying like, yeah, he, he's a competitive dude.
Nurse is killing it on the Sixers and beats playing great. So that makes them look bad.
Harden's on the Clippers. He's doing great. That doesn't make Doc look great. And you know,
he's competitive. And I was like, you know what? Last year, none of that was my fault.
I'm going to show you.
And all of a sudden, he's coaching Milwaukee.
And they're paying him a lot.
He certainly greased the wheels for the, you know,
ringer employee to $40 million contract pipeline.
So, you know, let's just get that on the record.
He's feeling really good about that.
No, the Bucs needed that change.
They needed to shake up so, so badly.
And I think what everyone holds against Doc
are concerns that are far and away
beyond where the Bucs have been.
Like, they just need to get
professionalized defensively.
And he's going to be able to do that.
He's going to be able to cater an offense
to serve what Dame and Giannis do best.
I'm not worried about that stuff at all.
And that's going to make a huge difference,
especially in the regular season.
But even getting them through the first playoff rounds,
and then you hope the talent kind of carries you through from there.
Their wings can't guard the great wings on other teams.
And Dame is a minus on defense.
And I don't know if the greatest coach on the earth
can fix some of that stuff.
But he's a good motivator, and we'll see how he does.
Before we go, you've been recapping True Detective
on the Prestige TV pod
with the Queen,
Joanna Robinson.
You've liked this season so far.
Yes.
Definitely so.
It's super duper weird.
That's what we do.
We like weird.
Does this feel like
a True Detective season
or is it just
another show completely
but it's called True Detective slash whatever?
Sometimes it feels like another show.
Sometimes it feels like a True Detective show.
Sometimes it feels like a show trying to be a True Detective show.
And I kind of appreciate all of those.
Like there is certainly a reflective metatextual, you know, we're so far removed from season one, especially in the phenomenon that it was, that playing with the ideas and referring to them,
it's almost impossible to do that
in a way that's not self-conscious.
So there's definitely a self-consciousness to the show,
but I think the framing of it
and the conspiracy and the mystery of those worlds
and of this season in particular
lends itself pretty well to that kind of recursion
and those ideas.
Like seeing the spirals everywhere
is just kind of par for the course
and I think feeds some interesting mystery.
And, I mean, we're theorizing like crazy over there.
The yarn walls are going nuts.
Like, we're trying to piece this thing together as we go,
but it's been an insane opening to the season so far.
Can you explain the first two episodes
in one condensed sentence?
Seven scientists mysteriously disappear
from their research base in Alaska,
freeze to death naked with no explanation.
That was pretty good.
In a corpsicle?
And Jodie Foster is a 60-year-old Alaska sheriff
who likes to have sex standing up.
Don't they all?
That would be my second sentence.
Was it
top 20
standing up
sex scene
in HBO history?
I wouldn't even know
where to start.
It got a
oh!
from my wife.
Just not ready for it.
Smash cut
to bureau sex scene.
It was a lot.
HBO, still keeping us on our toes in 2024. Who knew? Not ready for it. Smash cut to bureau sex scene. It was a lot.
HBO still keeping us on our toes in 2024.
Who knew?
Rob Mahoney, we can hear in The Ringer,
NBA show, reader on theringer.com and here on the Prestige TV podcast as well.
Good to see you.
Thanks, Bill.
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All right, taping this early afternoon Pacific time.
Peter Schrager is here.
You can watch him on Good Morning Football.
You can see him on Fox.
You can see him,
us kind of killing the games the last couple weeks.
I hope it keeps going.
We're going to get to the games a little bit later.
We've been on a nice little run.
Let's talk coaching though.
Coaching hires, coaching rumors, coaching things.
How many jobs are left now?
We have three jobs as we record this that are still open.
That is Washington, Seattle, and Atlanta.
Atlanta just had another interview I just got a text on.
They have interviewed 14 different head coach candidates in this cycle, 14 different ones.
Belichick not getting a job when this many jobs were open would literally be unbelievable.
And we also still have Vrabel,
Pete Carroll, and Belichick on the table, all of whom seem like they want to coach. And Atlanta just seems like they want, I don't want to say a puppet coach, but somebody who's
just going to be like, I'm here to coach. That's it. You guys handle everything else.
Washington, they seem to want to have a whole new infrastructure. And then Seattle, I guess,
would just want a normal coach.
So that might rule out Belichick completely.
It's interesting that Belichick is seven years older than Andy Reid, and everyone is already
saying, well, if Reid retires, maybe Belichick goes to Kansas City.
I saw that report from maybe Mike Florio and Schefter were both talking about that.
I have no indication that Andy Reid is going anywhere as long as Patrick Mahomes is there. So I would take that off the table
at the moment unless something drastic happens that we're not expecting. Then you're looking
at three jobs. And to me, the Atlanta thing, if you weren't going to hire Belichick the first
interview and you didn't hire him right after the second interview, the further we go from there,
the less likely that is. Bill could say, I just want to be a head
coach. He could say, I just want to be an executive if that's the case. But I think if you're hiring
Belichick, you're hiring all that comes with Belichick. And that might not be what every team
wants. They might want them just for those siloed jobs. And I'm not sure necessarily you can hire
Belichick as strictly a head coach because at some point he's going to have to cede that control to a Terry Fontenot or Rich McKay unless you say we're
going to blow those guys out too and we're just going to go all in on Belichick at age 72.
And if you look at the last six to seven Pats drafts, you'd be a little hesitant.
It's weird because how do you tell a guy who's won more playoff games than anyone ever, who's the best coach of all time.
And then you're in a meeting with them and you're like,
here are our thoughts.
It's like,
it probably doesn't want your thoughts.
I know.
I think it was Seth Wickersham who we both respect obviously.
And who's had a pulse on,
on the Patriot stuff for years.
Who said,
who made the parallel to like,
look,
Tom Brady was a free agent a couple of years ago.
And basically two teams showed real interest.
It was the Chargers and the Buccaneers.
And at the end of the day, the Buccaneers made the most sense.
In hindsight, he took that team to a Super Bowl his first year.
Shouldn't every team have looked at the last 20 years and said, okay, we're better off with Tom Brady?
And then last year, Lamar Jackson, granted, you would have to give him a pick, and he was a restricted free agent.
Teams were quick to the table to say, no, no, no, we're good.
We don't want to deal with all that.
And we're not going to go down that road.
We're going to stick with our guy.
And now I think a lot of those coaches are out of jobs right now who passed on Lamar
Jackson or didn't entertain it.
So are we doing the same thing with Belichick here?
Are we making a mistake of saying, hey, I'd rather have Dave Canales or I'd rather have
Brian Callahan than Bill freaking Belichick?
Or is it,
you know what? I'd rather work with the 38-year-old guy who comes in wide-eyed and is willing to be
collaborative and work with everyone at a different level than having to be entering
a relationship where we know that he's going to have superiority over everybody in the building
the second he walks in. Well, Carolina at least finally figured out how it's supposed to go,
where you hire the GM and that guy brings in a coach that he's really comfortable with. And now they're aligned. And if the coach fails, the GM fails too. hire. They interviewed all the typical candidates also.
They interviewed a bunch of GM candidates. They hired the in-house guy, Dan Morgan. But from what I hear, Tepper was blown away by a couple of these GM candidates and has already
discussed a possibility of, okay, well, let's bring in one of the financial guys or one of
the salary cap guys. And they met with Mike Greenberg from Tampa. They met with Brent Tillis
from Kansas City, who does Kansas City's cap work with Brett Veach. And they met with a couple other guys who work on the financial side.
Now the question is, can they poach one of those guys to come in also? So now you have
Dan Morgan, who's your football guy, who also can do contracts and all that. But then you pair him
with a really smart salary cap, strictly money-based contract guy, have those two.
And then you have this coach and all of a sudden
you've got now, all right, Tepper doesn't need to be meddling. He's got three different people
that he trusts to handle the football. And it's like, you guys do your thing. And I swear,
I'm not going to meddle. I swear I'm going to step away. I was only meddling because I felt I had to,
but now we've got this thing and you guys all can trust each other.
That's new owner syndrome now. They come in and they think it works like every other business
they did. I've been joking about this the entire time I've had a
column in a podcast. These guys come in. I remember the Bad GM Summit. I remember I longed for those
columns. Yeah, they all have to do it. You go back and all of them, they can't resist. And then they
gradually realize like, oh, I need to delegate. Oh, maybe I don't know as much about football as
I thought. Oh, maybe it's weird when five different people have five different agendas
and they're all playing me against each other.
I did like Carolina came into it open-minded though
because they met with all the usual candidates
and the last guy in was Dave Canales
who was Tampa's OC for one year
and was in Seattle for years
and that's where Dan Morgan knew him.
But I'm told he blew away the interviews
and this year in Tampa,
that's like an all-juice, positive,
light, all about
positive affirmations
and all this stuff that really worked in
Tampa Bay in the post-Brady thing.
In back-to-back years, he kind of resurrected
Geno Smith and Baker Mayfield's
career. And to Tepper's credit, they
did a Zoom interview last
Thursday. They liked him.
They interviewed him this week after they lost in the NFC Championship game. They liked him again. And you know what? They said Thursday. They liked him. They interviewed him this week after they
lost in the NFC Championship game. They liked him again. And you know what? They said, let's hire
him. It wasn't like, well, he wasn't our first choice. Or, well, since October, we were looking
at somebody else. They're like, no, this guy really interviewed well. We like what he did,
and he's going to make the best out of Bryce Young. I respect that too, to go into this thing
open-minded and not make the big name higher. I got to say, as somebody who's hired a few people in my day,
you kind of know within the first three to five minutes.
I think it's funny when these people
have like the five different interviews
with the same person.
I don't know what happens in the fifth interview
that would change, you know,
kind of the general vibe you would have right away
of like, am I clicking with this person?
Does this seem like a person I'd want to spend time with?
Does their brain seem to be working in the same way that everyone around here? You could usually tell. And that's why
when you see like a Belichick for two interviews. Yeah. We kind of know what we're getting.
Harbaugh was interesting too, because he had the initial interview, went really well with the
Chargers and they had another one. and then he actually canceled the Atlanta one
because the Chargers one
went so well.
And then I heard,
we're doing this on Thursday,
Wednesday night,
they were,
they were at like
a Morton's Steakhouse
and Harbaugh was the
life of the party
and they had already
announced it
and like they were
fired up for the Harbaugh era
and I'm like,
you know what?
They're going to win.
Like,
that's a smart hire.
That's what they need
in that market
and Harbaugh will turn it around. He always does. And Herbert will be good. And I appreciate that
kind of hire too, where it's like, hey, not for everybody. The Harbaugh thing comes with... He
usually has in the NFL and before Michigan, comes in, lasts a few years, burns everyone out, and
then he's on to the next. Well, the Chargers are like, we'll take the burnout. Does it mean we
could be good for a couple of years? We'll take it. We need it. So I like that match too.
I thought it was the perfect, perfect, perfect place for him.
They don't matter at all here.
They have no identity whatsoever.
They're old fan base in San Diego.
Most of those fans not only have not traveled with the team,
but have kind of disowned the team.
Here they're like the black sheep of the LA scene.
They're completely irrelevant.
Even Justin Herbert,
who is somewhere between
the fifth and eighth
best quarterback in the league,
I don't even think he has
face recognition
for the jumbotron
and a clipper game.
Every home game they have,
it's all fans of the other team.
But now he's going to come in
and it's going to feel like
it's a little...
Make better.
I was here when Pete Carroll,
when he got USC going in the two thousands and it felt the same way.
There was a rejuvenation,
but he was the face of it and the players could kind of come in and out,
but he was always the one.
And he was,
now you have somebody you could have on Jimmy Kimmel's talk show,
you know,
and it's like,
Hey,
it's the chargers coach,
Jim Harbaugh.
It's now they're showing him on the jumbotron. He's sitting courtside. He's next to bomber. It's like, Oh, it's the Chargers coach, Jim Harbaugh. Now they're showing him on the
Jumbotron. He's sitting courtside. He's next to Balmer. It's like, oh, Harbaugh. And they just
have no energy like that in the city. It's a city of stars. LA responds to stars.
And in the core of their arrangement, they're tenants in what the Rams stadium is. So it's like
you're almost renters. And now they have a brand new, beautiful facility that's opening up, I believe, next year. And it's a different area.
You know about that deal?
Tell me, what do you got? Is there more that I need to know or what? needed a tenant for the other eight games because that was part of the deal. So what I was told was
they pay like so little on, you know, rent stuff. They, I, somebody told me they paid a dollar a
year, which seems insane, but they really have no expenses. They don't have to pay for anything.
And they, what, what I was told was they have this influx of cash because they didn't spend
for a new stadium.
They don't have to pay for the upkeep.
They're just kind of there so they could put it in the practice facility in Harbaugh.
I'm not sure.
I do know that when that whole deal went down and it was the Raiders and Chargers sharing a stadium or it was the Rams getting a stadium, that was how it all shook out.
And it was the Rams first and the Chargers second as the SoFi people.
And it kind of felt that way the first few years.
This will be different.
I think Harbaugh goes right up with McVay
as far as name recognition.
I think that Harbaugh brings
the real juice to it.
And...
A little rivalry, by the way,
with those two guys.
You get another thing out of that.
You get a little Herbert
versus the Rams.
And I think with Harbaugh,
I'm curious to see the staff.
So the three things that everyone tells me,
it's like, you're going to win right away.
You will.
Two, you're going to be tough.
You're not, you're going to be disciplined.
And three, he hires great staff.
Now this might be a bunch of names.
I feel like retreads or retreads,
like it might be David Shaw and Pep Hamilton. And you might get Greg Roman.
And you might say, oh, well, those guys.
He also has these young coaches
and that's what he always had at Michigan
and always had at the Niners.
He found talent at the coaching level.
They are going to be loaded on the coaching staff.
And I'm curious to see who they hire at GM.
They're going to be interviewing Joe Hortiz today.
Joe Hortiz is like number two in Baltimore.
And they also interviewed a guy named Brandon Brown,
who's with the Giants.
So does Harbaugh have say?
What did they say about that?
Does he have final personnel?
I'm sure he will have a very large voice.
One of the reasons I love this for him
is because you actually have the chance to build
and rebuild something.
The Chargers, they have the worst salary
cap situation. I think it's
in the top three for next year in the league.
For Belichick
to go there,
I just don't think he would have been able to turn that around in a year. Harbaugh can take
three years. He has the QB. He was a former QB. He knows how important that piece is.
And he gets a rap for, oh, he burns his bridges fast. He's at Michigan for a while.
Nine years.
Yeah. I mean, that's not nothing.
They were five and seven the year before
he got there. Brady Hoke. They were bad.
And he came in and turned them around. They won 10 games the next
year. They beat their first two opponents who were ranked
by like 30 points and they win the title. They beat
Alabama and Washington this year.
Bill, you did mention the
Jumbotron at Clippers games as like
a barometer. Give me like what level of celebrity
we're talking about at a Clippers game
as opposed to a Lakers game. Is it the same?
Either. Yeah, no, it's either.
It's just like,
if you're showing somebody,
does the crowd, do people like my
wife, actually she wouldn't know who
Jim Harbaugh was, but
would there be some recognition? Like on the
Dodgers, the Otani,
right? If he's at a Clipper game,
people are like, holy shit, Otani's here,
standing O.
Mookie Betts,
he can kind of slide in and out.
Like he was at the Lakers Christmas game.
He's 5'9".
He can just put a hat on.
You barely know he's there.
He's on the jumbotron.
You're like,
is that Mookie Betts?
Harbaugh will be there
like with his arms back,
wearing some leather jacket.
The old smile.
Yeah, just like, you know, he's like a celebrity.
And I think for him, especially if you're in Michigan,
you're in a fishbowl there
because you're in a college campus in Ann Arbor.
Now you come here, you're just another celebrity.
There's a freaking million of them.
He'll buy some nice house.
He'll have multiple years.
And he's got the QB.
So to me, great move.
And I'll be interested to see if Belichick
ever really strongly considered it.
But the thing with Belichick,
he loses out on the Eagles
because it seems like Sirianni's back.
The Cowboys bring McCarthy back.
It all worked out wrong.
None of the cards worked out his way.
Buffalo did not fire Sean McDermott.
Which I mentioned last week.
I didn't see that happening.
And now you kid,
but he might be just in wanting to coach
and not being able to.
Does he go and coach a high school team?
And just be like,
does he go and work with a college team?
Does he do it?
Or is he literally going into the media
and like, I'll just stay relevant
and I'll do it for you.
Because Bill,
if Doc Rivers is going to leave your podcast network,
I sure as hell
would be the first one
to listen to Belichick.
First of all,
I'd love to have Belichick.
Second of all,
him not coaching next year
is going to be a massive win
for us as football fans
because he will strategically pick
one, two, or three things
and he'll boost his...
And then he'll have the number one choice
of any job next year, right?
Who are his guys in the media?
Is it him and Tom Curran?
Who would it be?
Or is he going to go national?
He's close with Lombardi,
but I don't know how that would play out.
My guess would be he would start his own
sort of podcast somewhere
or maybe he just does studio
where he's on,
does he join ESPN Monday Night Countdown?
And he's just there
on Monday nights?
They just fly him in private?
And he's with Moss
and whoever else?
Yeah.
I do think
people will really like him
after this season
if he doesn't coach.
People are like,
wow, Belichick had no idea.
He seemed like such a dick.
You know,
the little wrinkles,
obviously,
when he puts Nike the dog on
during the draft,
he's like a little wink
to the crowd.
But that NFL 100 thing
that he did with Collinsworth
when Brady flew in.
He was so good.
He was better than Collinsworth.
It's maybe the best thing
the NFL films has done
and Brady runs
and Belichick runs point on it
and is excellent.
Well, I wonder like CBS,
like we'll see what happens
with Romo and Nance.
Like the
Andrew Marchand
in the New York Post
just wrote a piece today
basically like, are these guys
ever going to have a resurgence?
Is this just where we are for the rest of our...
They've got two monster games up ahead.
The spotlight's on them and I wonder at some point
does CBS go, shit, and
Belichick's available for a year?
Maybe we'll just bring them into the booth.
I might be different. I don't know. You tell me and I don't
usually dip into these words. I still think Romo's really good and exciting. I might be different. I don't know. You tell me and I don't usually dip into these.
I still think Romo is really good and exciting.
And like, I enjoy Romo on these calls.
I know there's been a lot of criticism of late,
but like I thought he was pretty good against in Buffalo, Kansas City.
He had a real like, I don't know.
You feel like you're watching it with a guy at the bar and he also brings some energy and juice to it.
The other guys are great too.
Whether you talk about Olsen or Collinsworth or Aikman, of course,
but I don't think Romo is so terrible. I know that people on Twitter
are just crushing him.
I watched, this tells you where
I am as a Patriots fan these days,
I watched the fourth quarter in OT
of the Pats-Chiefs game, the D4 game.
Romo's
out of his mind in that game. It's insane.
He's calling every play. It honestly
seems like he came from the future and he's just spelling shit out. He's spelling the game. It's insane. He's calling every play. It honestly seems like he came from the future
and he's just spelling shit out.
He's spelling the momentum.
And it's like,
this is why we were so excited about this guy
because it almost makes me,
you don't think there's any chance
the NFL said to him,
you can't predict stuff ahead of time
because other teams can hear the signal calls
and they can listen to the audio,
the broadcast and hear the signals
and different things. I think it was such a revelation on television. And when he gets on
that telestrator and he's doing it all, I don't think it's a competitive advantage to other teams.
I think it was just, he had recently retired. So he was still in that. So every year you're out.
So this is one of the things with color guys, in general. One of the reasons Doc was so great on this podcast was he had just coached literally everybody for 20 years.
So he had this wealth of knowledge from day after day after day being in these war rooms trying to figure out how to beat guys,
what their weaknesses were, what this team wasn't doing, what this guy wasn't doing.
And I think the longer you get out of the league and in any sport, that becomes tougher.
We've seen that
with every announcer.
That's why Collinsworth
is somebody that I think
fought it off.
I mean, he hasn't played
for 30 plus years,
but he's still on it.
I mean, I think his career
ended in the 90s.
I think he was inside
the NFL late 80s.
And he was amazing
on inside the NFL.
And those were really the days.
That's when...
So good.
The Lenny Dawson,
Nick Bonacotta years,
and then you go from there
to when he was with Marino and well,
the two thousands was when we had that.
And we had,
uh,
inside edge with Ron Jaworski,
whatever that shows NFL edge with NFL matchup.
Yeah.
NFL matchup.
And those were the two,
they were must watch shows every week.
Cause we didn't really have enough football content would air at like
7 30 AM on Sunday morning. Yeah. And it was, yes, you would have to tape 7 30 a.m on sunday morning and it was yes you would have to
tape it on a on a tape with like before v before obviously dvr and i would do that i would watch it
and you'd break down film i didn't know what the hell i was watching i loved it it was great uh
real quick though on all these guys it's almost as if the regular season doesn't matter anymore
but so many people are watching in the playoffs like you have to be great in these playoff games as players,
but on the broadcast,
because we don't even know like how these guys are doing.
Cause sometimes you're not watching every game as far as,
Oh,
I,
cause you got red zone or whatever else,
but like all eyes are watching you.
So you get nitpicked really hard.
And that's maybe why they make the money they do because there is such
scrutiny behind it.
Well,
it doesn't help that Greg Olson was lights out this year.
And I don't know what happens to him next year.
He's so good.
Because it seems like Brady's going to do the number one job.
So it's like, okay, this is where you need a sports czar.
It's not just about like, I'm going to fix boxing.
I'm going to fix college football.
The sports czar needs to be the common sense VP who comes in and says,
look, Greg Olson can't be on the number two team.
We're not doing that. Let's figure this out. Like, hey, Herbstreet, thanks for everything,
but you're going to go back to college. We're going to get Ian Eagle and Greg Olson as our
number one Amazon team. And let's just have the best people on each team. Olson being relegated
to number two or number three, that would suck. Because I learned a lot of shit from that dude this year.
Greg is so good.
And he's so good in the moment.
Like he said something on Sunday's,
on Saturday night's game where like,
they were running Aaron Jones outside, outside, outside.
And he's like,
here's the deal with San Francisco's defensive ends.
Like they are great pass rushers.
They are great.
But like, this is not what they do best.
I'm like, man, that's good. Because I see all these superstars on San Francisco's D
line and it's like, why are they running all over them? Well, this is exactly where their weakness
is. And I'm like, Greg is good in the moment. I also, I think he's a great team guy too. So I'm
curious to see what happens, but I'm a Fox employee. So I support whatever decision they make.
Well, I do wonder, does it just land on it's Brady with Greg
Olson and Burkhart? And maybe they just say, hey, superpower, let's go. Three-man teams can be a
little iffy. I think Brady's going to be really good too, though. I watched these little clips
that I put on for years. He had this podcast where he and Larry Fitzgerald would talk with
Jim Gray and I didn't get anything out of it. And then in the last couple of months,
he has had a few videos. He did a video on Mahomes this week
that I thought was so good.
And then he was telling stories with Edelman
and Gronk about Belichick on the pod.
And I'm like, all right,
I'm ready for the Brady in the booth.
I think he could be really good if he's dedicated to this.
And I think he is.
That'd be great.
Let's take a break and we'll talk about the games.
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And coming out of when they put the Sunday Lions up,
in my instincts were Lions are a little overvalued,
Niners are a little undervalued coming off those two games.
So leaning toward the Niners.
Casey plus three and a half, sign me up.
Not going against Mahomes.
Let's do this.
They've figured it out. This is the
2018 Pats all over again.
They're just going to duct tape and thumbtack
nail and scotch tape this thing
and they're going to be in the Super Bowl again.
This is what the NFL wants.
They want Taylor Swift there.
They're going to make it happen.
If there was ever like,
oh, there's five controversial calls in this game
and somehow all five went against Baltimore,
this is the game.
But I kept staring at it.
I kept looking at 19 million different things.
I read everything I could.
And the more I stare at it,
the Chiefs look like a sucker bet.
Right now they're plus three and a half.
They're in Baltimore.
And part of me wonders
if this wasn't Mahomes. If it was somebody with the credentials of Mahomes, but not named Patrick
Mahomes. Right. This line should be like Ravens by six and a half, Ravens by seven. And Mahomes,
just by himself, by the sheer fear of going against Patrick Mahomes, has moved the line
three to three and a half points. So I'm going to start there. Your thoughts? The silhouette of him
waddling into the stadium and doing that Mahomes on his tippy-toe walk is enough to move the line
three points. I hear you. I have done the same. I have done 15 hours of live television talking about this one
game this week. And every which way, upside and down, it's coming up Ravens for me. Every single
way. I look at their defense. It's number one in everything. I look at the way the offense adjusted
at halftime against Houston and how everyone's fears and anxieties were completely put to rest
because they were
able to adjust and Lamar used his arm and his legs to get it done. And I look at the crowd.
This is one of those deals where your listeners will roll their eyes at me and say,
oh, here we go. Schrager's stupid narrative that doesn't really matter in football, but it does.
That place was bananas on Saturday. We're talking false start penalties. We're talking delay a game penalties.
And that place, when it is rocking,
is as good as any home field advantage in the league,
Arrowhead included, Detroit included.
And on Saturday, you saw it.
It was like an avalanche.
Once they were able to get that thing going
in the second half, it rolls.
I got a press release from the Ravens PR guy, Chad Steele.
He sent me this. I'm going to just read this to you quickly. Ravens PR guy, Chad Steele. He sent me this.
I'm going to just read this to you quickly.
Ravens legends of the game on Sunday are Ray Lewis and Ed Reed.
The team will also recognize Ravens wide receiver Anquan Bolden,
tight end Todd Heap, tight end Dennis Pitta, kicker Matt Stover,
and outside linebacker Terrell Suggs during the game.
And honorary captain Jonathan Ogden, an 11-time Pro Bowler
and Ravens first-ever draft choice,
will be there to serve as the Ravens honorary captain Jonathan Ogden, an 11-time Pro Bowler and Ravens' first-ever draft choice, will be there to serve as the Ravens' honorary captain.
In 2013, the Super Bowl champion became the first original Raven to be inducted into the
Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Look, I know these Baltimore fans.
This place is going to be nuts on Sunday.
And I just think it's hard for me to ignore it and just say, oh, well, because I'm a home So I am torn because, Bill, as we have discussed, we can go into the X's and O's and what Mike McDonald's team does and what they do on defense and how great their stories are. I'm closing my eyes. I'm trying to think of a situation outside of Mahomes and Kelsey. Just being Mahomes and Kelsey, it's really hard to pick the Chiefs here. I'll go further. If Mahomes wins this game,
he has to go in the manifesto as you're never allowed to bet up against Patrick
Bonds in the playoffs. That's just it. He just goes in. He becomes one of the rules going forward.
Every single thing is against them. Even like, all right, let's go through their best wins
for the entire year. They beat the Jags by eight. They beat Minnesota by seven.
They beat Miami in the regular season by seven
in a game that Miami fumbled
as they were going in for the tying score.
In Germany.
In Germany.
They beat Cincy near the end of the season by eight.
And we were like,
ah, Cincy might be back.
Or Casey might be back.
They look good.
25 to 17.
They beat Miami in cold weather.
And Miami's defense is decimated beyond decimated, right?
So we're going to the playoffs.
That line stays like around three.
Even though we all know Miami's defense is decimated
and two is going to suck in the cold.
And people are taking the Dolphins plus three,
Dolphins money line.
So they win that one convincingly.
And then last week against Buffalo, which we had them,
they win by three in Buffalo
in a game where
it was an either-or game.
It was going back and forth, but Buffalo's defense
was pretty decimated.
I don't know what happened to
Stephon Diggs this year.
No Gabe Davis.
They barely squeezed that out. I guess my point
is
the body evidence just isn't there that this is a good team. It's a team that's pulled out wins
and it's a team that if it's close, you can't let them hang around and they'll get you in the end.
But Baltimore, what do they have? 10, 11 wins against playoff teams. That's like one of the
best records ever. 11 wins against teams that had winning records this year.
And then.
Which was a record.
Yes.
And how they beat teams,
Bill.
I'm talking Detroit came in there as like the hot team.
They blew them out.
Seattle was the hot team.
They blew them out.
Miami was for the first seed in the,
in the AFC,
blew them out,
go to San Francisco,
blow them out.
And then last week,
Houston in the second half,
what they did to Houston was demoralizing.
They just absolutely rolled them when they had to
and it clicked.
Last week, I felt really good about the
Chiefs. Me too.
I like the fact that
the Chiefs had an extra two days
of rest. Buffalo played on a Monday
then had to play on a Sunday. The Chiefs
played on a Saturday night, had to
play on a Sunday night. Chiefs played on a Saturday night, had to play on a Sunday night.
This week, the Ravens have the extra day of rest. The Ravens come in just about completely healthy.
Chiefs, Joe Tooney, we're not sure what his status is.
I think he's out.
It sounds like it. At first, it sounded like he's going to play through it. He's tough. You know
what he is. But when you don't practice for a couple of days, that makes me a little nervous.
Well, he's either out or He's tough. You know what he is. But when you don't practice for a couple days, that makes me a little nervous. Well, he's either out or he's compromised.
Totally. And he might be there.
And from a run game standpoint,
even 60%, Joe, I don't
know. But Pacheco, so if you're making
the case for them,
couple positives. One is that their offense,
since they had that terrible Vegas loss,
so they have Cincinnati. Now,
Cincinnati has a bad defense,
but they're 7.0 yards per play.
Pacheco is 18 for 130.
They finally got Pacheco going.
273 total yards.
Miami in the cold.
They're 409 yards, 22 first downs.
Pacheco's 24 for 97.
Last week against Buffalo, 7.7 yards a play.
Pacheco's 15 for 97.
So there's an arrow pointing up for him that they
can run the ball. And they also, in those three games, they had three different guys had 20 plus
catch plays. So their explosive plays, even though they don't seem explosive, they're actually making
those plays, which is what killed them all year. Where I get nervous is like Valdez-Gantley made that catch.
Two catches.
Two 30-yard catches.
Two hard ones.
Yeah.
Right?
Rice made a really hard
catch in traffic.
They've been dropping
those balls all year.
What happens the first time
you drop one of those
in Baltimore?
Totally.
The crowd's going nuts.
It's going to be a little
rainy potentially.
Yeah, it's going to rain.
So that worries me.
And then
the other thing
that's positive for them,
they really have shut down explosive pass plays. So going back, like New England didn't even have a pass over 10 yards against them. Cincinnati only had two 20 plusers. Vegas only had one. Miami in the playoffs, Tyreek for 53. That's it. Nobody had more than 20. Buffalo last week, 15 yards was their max long pass.
So if it could be like this, Baltimore just never gets anything deep,
never anything, no like 38-yarder, and they just have to grind, grind, grind.
And it's a weird, ugly, disjointed 21-17 game.
Yeah, then you have Mahomes in the fourth quarter.
Yeah, if Mahomes is within three points in the fourth quarter,
all bets are off.
This is, does Baltimore come in and roll them because they just have
this crazy crowd, all the momentum, and
they score in their first two possessions. And it's like
we have the most suffocating defense in the league.
I truly think, you know,
last, they had the big play. Tyreek had the big
play against the Chiefs and it was 10-7 and it was
like, all right, what are we going to do here?
And then they just shut down Miami. And then last
week, you know,
Allen has that miraculous pass on third down to Shakir
at the end of the third quarter.
They take the lead.
And then Kansas City just said, let's stop it.
Let's just shut them down.
Yeah, they shut down the run.
They shut it down.
So it's like, here's how this will go.
Baltimore wins, I think, by 21.
Or Kansas City wins by a field goal
because you kept Mahomes around
and did something miraculous.
Yeah, I'm looking at that Baltimore
first half Baltimore game.
Like, if Baltimore doesn't win this game,
this is a bad...
Mahomes, it's Mahomes.
It's not even anything against Baltimore.
Well, it's for Mahomes.
They're young enough.
No, it's really bad for Lamar
if he can't win this game.
Really?
Because his team's better. I think he slayed some dragons last week playing the way he did. No, it's really bad for Lamar if he can't win this game. Really? Because his team is better.
I think he slayed some dragons last week playing the way he did.
He beat the Houston Texans who were plus 5'8 to make the playoffs.
He needs to win this game.
And I think the line reflects that the public doesn't totally trust him in a big game.
And they may trust Mahomes too much.
So you saw this.
This would happen with Brady and the Pats occasionally
where they got so much credit for being Brady and the Pats.
Sometimes people were kind of overlooking,
eh, this isn't the same kind of team.
Their body of work with the Chiefs just hasn't been good
compared to Baltimore, which has been incredible.
The body of work, Bill, isn't just this year.
To me, the body of work is the last six years.
The playoff.
Yeah, I'm just talking this season.
Sure.
But all that to me is secondary to the experience and the know-how of that.
We've been in these spots before.
They haven't.
And I think that's where you're picking the Kansas City Chiefs.
If you're a Chiefs fan, you're like,
All right, well, we've been there.
We've been on the road.
We did it last week.
We've been in big spots.
We've been in Super Bowls.
And Mahomes, I loved his comment last week
after the game. They were like, what did it feel
like to win your first road playoff game?
And he finally said, he's like, look, we
played on the road in the Super Bowl in Tampa
against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. That was a road game. We played
in the Super Bowl last year in Arizona. That's on the road.
We played in Miami. That was a
nonsense narrative. This one
might be a little different. I know Buffalo's fans
were great and they were loud and Kelsey was jumping around shirtless. The team just wasn't good enough. I know Buffalo's fans were great and they were loud
and Kelsey was jumping around
shirtless.
The team just wasn't good enough.
I just don't think
they were good enough.
The Ravens are way better
than Buffalo is.
They're way better.
And the other thing,
they're number one
on offense.
They're the number one
rushing team.
Chiefs are 17th
against the rush.
Buffalo felt like
for three quarters
they were running the ball on them. They were so committed to it. I'm not sure what happened at the end. They put the felt like for three quarters, they were running the ball.
They were so committed to it.
They were trying.
I'm not sure what happened at the end.
They put the numbers up.
They did.
They were running the ball well.
Also, Kelsey.
Kelsey gave the Chiefs,
I would say, a good two hours last Sunday.
I don't think he has three and a half hours
in him anymore.
And I think this is a three and a half hour
Kelsey game if you're going to beat Baltimore.
It's true.
He made the two touchdown passes and the catches. And the one that was cool is that, and I think Peter Kelsey game if you're going to beat Baltimore. It's true. He made the two touchdown passes
and the catches.
And the one that was cool is that,
and I think Peter King had it
in his Monday column,
is that it was a play
that Andy Reid used in 2011.
He brought it out,
like the one where
they scored on the goal line.
But I noticed in a lot of big plays,
Kelsey was not in.
He runs to the sideline.
He wasn't in a lot of these.
He seemed tired a couple of times.
Totally.
There was one time
where he called himself to be taken out.
After they missed him in the end zone, he ran right off.
And it was like a big third down.
I was like, that's not usual.
But this is it.
Hey, look, here's the truth of the matter for me.
Everything tells me Ravens.
And if you want to get personal with it, my son loves Lamar.
My wife's from Baltimore.
I'm going to go to the game.
I'll be there.
All this stuff.
It feels like this has to be Ravens.
And but before the season, Bill,
I picked the Chiefs to win it all.
And my mantra on Good Morning Football
and on your podcast was
I cannot pick against Patrick Mahomes
and Travis Kelsey and Andy Reid
until they give me a reason
to pick against them.
And us saying, well,
the other team has got a best defense
and on paper this
and Anquan Bolden's
going to be in the house
just doesn't feel convincing enough.
So I don't care if it's by one point or two points. defense and on paper this and Anquan Bolden's going to be in the house just doesn't feel convincing enough.
I don't care if it's by one point or two points.
I have to go by my original conviction.
I still am picking the Chiefs even though every ounce of my body is telling
me Ravens.
First half game for the Ravens
where they win both is even
money on Fandle.
I find it hard to believe the Ravens are
going to lose the first half and
then win the game. The Chiefs are winning at halftime. It's like, oh my God, the Chiefs are
going to win this. I guess my question with the Chiefs is they're not going to win every year.
Like even Brady and the Pats didn't do that. And if they're not going to win on a certain year,
just even get into the AFC title game is Amazing. There's going to be years where you kind
of don't totally have it. And maybe this is just a, we didn't totally have it. And maybe the Miami
and Buffalo wins kind of threw people off the scent a tiny bit versus Baltimore, who has been
telling us now for three months, who they are, how good they are. They've, they've taken down
every single opponent you could throw at them convincingly and they're awesome at home.
So if they lose this, this is a bad
loss, man. I know. For Baltimore
did last week's win over
sometimes you feel it. Last week's win over Buffalo
did that feel like
alright, they did that. Great season.
You can go to bed if you're
a Chiefs fan. We did it. We beat Josh
Allen again. No, because they're thinking Super
Bowls.
But I think their offense didn't do anything in the fourth quarter.
They got really lucky that Allen,
right as he's about to hit Gabe Davis in the end zone,
Chris Jones shoves whoever that lineman is
and just knocks him off by a split second.
And Allen was bad on those last two drives.
He just was.
He went for the money shot. He went for the money shot.
He hero balled it.
He did.
He hero balled twice.
Playoff manifesto rules here.
What do we got?
Beware of the looked a little too good
the previous playoff round team,
which is definitely Baltimore.
But they've looked a little too good
previous week for three months.
Make sure the team of the home field advantage
actually has a home field advantage actually has a home
field advantage. I think it'll be
a madhouse on Sunday.
Yeah.
They haven't had a home
AFC championship game since
1971 in
War Memorial Stadium. I love that.
Two possible
new rules. One
is
come on, seriously,
what does the NFL really, really, really want to happen here?
Do they want Baltimore in here?
Do they want KC?
The referee who got assigned to this game,
favorable to the road team,
there's been some good stats and numbers about that this week.
Warren Sharpe had some good stuff.
You think the Taylor Swift thing is way more of a win than
Lamar, a new star, and Lamar Jackson?
No, it's Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift in the
Super Bowl is the win. So,
I'm just saying that's a possible new manifesto
rule if the Chiefs win and there's like five
weird calls. Second question
for you. Let me just keep on buzzing
you with this because you know this stuff more than anyone entertainment-wise.
She is supposed to be
in Tokyo for a world tour. Would
she cancel a date in Tokyo
to be at the Super Bowl? Yes.
Okay. Keep going. Yeah.
The other new role goes
Zags against that one I just gave you.
Just
never bet against Patrick Mahomes
in a playoff game. It's just he's now off the table.
You can't pick against him
and that would be the new manifesto rule
if he wins this game.
Just like he's out.
We had the rule for Brady.
It's like don't fucking bet
against Brady.
Just don't.
Don't bet against Brady Belcher.
Or it's like you don't have to bet.
Just enjoy the game.
Yeah.
Don't bet.
Just scale back.
Put him in a tease.
Do whatever.
So those new rules are sick.
Niners, Lions.
I mean, I'll just go through the manifesto rules now because they're not Niners, Lions. I mean,
I'll just go through
the manifesto rules now
because they're not good
for the Lions.
But where have the
everybody believes in us team
and the nobody believes
in our QB but us team?
Ha!
Is that a real thing?
That was rule number five.
So we have the Lions
that everyone's all in on.
I mean, everybody.
Yeah.
And then we have
the Brock Purdy situation
where he looks bad in the rain.
Brock Purdy sucks.
I'm out on Brock Purdy.
And the Niners now
defending Brock Purdy this week,
which I noted.
Did you watch the sound
from yesterday?
Like,
Brandon Ayuk's coming out there
talking about Purdy
as if he's, you know,
Tom Brady and Peyton Manning
all in one.
Yeah.
So you got that.
Never pick an underdog
unless you genuinely believe
that it has a chance to win.
The Lions defense winning the NFC title game on the road with what we've seen from the Lions defense
is suspicious. I would just leave it there. They ask, but where rule number seven,
of all dome teams playing outdoors, especially in cold weather, it's not going to be that cold,
but still rule number 10, when in doubt, gravitate toward one pick that would screw over
the most gamblers and experts
and would definitely go against
the single worst gambler you know.
That, I think, is a Niners-Ravens tease
at minus 110, so that's maybe in the Lions' favor.
Possible new rule.
You can't dismiss the nerd evidence
when it's absolutely overwhelming.
You just can't.
I'm just going to read you these stats.
San Francisco's offense versus Detroit's defense this year. San Francisco offense,
first yards per play, Detroit, D, 23rd. San Francisco's offense, second first downs,
Detroit, 22nd. San Francisco's offense, first red zone, Detroit, 29th. San Francisco,
first yards per play, Detroit, 23rd. San Francisco, fourth yards per play, Detroit 23rd. San Francisco,
fourth pass,
Detroit 27th.
And then we had,
Warren Sharp was talking about how Goff targets the middle of the field
more than any QB.
53% target rate.
You're not going to believe this,
but San Francisco's defense,
fucking awesome
at the middle of the field.
You know who they have?
Fred Warner on their team.
So you have that.
And then Nate Tice, who wrote a good piece this week,
he was saying...
I like that guy.
This is the first year I started reading his stuff.
What's he at?
Yeah.
I think he's Yahoo.
He said,
No defense since week nine has allowed more explosive passes
when defending play action than the Lions.
Well, who's the best play action offense in the league?
It's the San Francisco 49ers.
9.3 yards per play.
So that's all bad for the Lions.
Make sure the team in the home field advantage
actually has a home field advantage in another role.
Niners, it's okay.
I don't love this stadium.
Here's the thing, though.
Their fans are great.
They travel as good as any fan base.
It's a weird stadium.
I went there for WrestleMania.
It's just kind of big.
It's in Santa Clara also.
It's not Candlestick
where you'd walk through a parking lot
and you have to look six ways
because people are shouting things at you.
It's different.
It's a nicer crowd, obviously.
It's a kinder, gentler crowd.
I would say that.
But that fan base,
they show up
and they come out with that boom box.
They've had some big home wins.
Yeah.
And then the last one is just take one last look at the quarterbacks.
Basically, everything's pushing me to the Niners.
And I think if you do it,
you have to assume that they're going to just do the Shanahan
where they just take control early and they just dominate the game.
The flip side would be they go three and out to start the game.
The Lions start running the ball.
Gibbs gets going.
Or the flip side is you're
in a shootout and the Lions
offense can score and all of a sudden you're asking
Purdy to throw for 350 and
four touchdowns and that's not his game.
It's not.
But I have a couple more things for you.
Detroit's defense, Tampa went 6.8 yards per play. Evans, 8 for 147. Ram, 7.7 yards per play. Puka,
9 for 181. Dallas, 6.2 yards per play. Lamb, 13 for 227. Green Bay against them,
7.0 yards per play.
Watson, 5 for 94,
two touchdowns.
And then roped everyone
into spending $50 on him
on fantasy and then suck.
Chargers, 6.2 yards a play.
38 points.
Allen, 11 catches,
175 yards.
This thing cannot stop
monster receivers.
So this feels like,
like you could say it feels like an IU game. Yeah. So this feels like, like you could say,
it feels like an IU game.
Yeah.
Feels like a Warner game.
It feels like a McCaffrey game
because of the way they can run.
And just a lot of their Niners
are lined up on this.
The big elephant in the room
is obviously the playoff experience
of the Niners versus the Lions.
But the biggest X factor
is Debo Samuel's health.
I thought Purdy was unbelievable
that final drive and the guys he was throwing to Juwan Jennings. And then of course, hitting
number 84, Chris Conley, who I admittedly did not know was on the team in a huge shot on the
sidelines. Purdy led them the whole way down. And then of course, McCaffrey scores. I think that was
major. But if Debo is good and Juszczyk is out there and McCaffrey's lining up all over the place,
I don't know if there's a more dangerous offense
in a playoff game because you don't know who to defend
and they just get in their rhythm and they go.
But Debo, right now, they're saying he's not out.
They're saying that he's not practicing.
But to me, that tells me if you're going into Friday,
it means he's probably going to play
and he's probably going to leave it out there.
And if you get even a little bit of Debo, you have to worry about
him and prepare.
Can I give you a hot take on
Debo? Yeah.
He reminds me of
Porzingis on the Celtics. Talk about it.
I love this. Let's hear it. I was going to think he was more of
a Reuben Patterson, but go on.
Porzingis is the superpower
for the Celtics. He makes them
really special in the right series
because he brings the size
and three-point shooting.
They can put him in pick and roll.
But they can also,
if he was gone for a week,
they could figure out
how to be okay without him, right?
And in this game,
I think Ayuk is the key guy
because all the receivers
who have torched the Lions
over the past two months are all these
down the field threats that just get open
that over and over again are dusting somebody
and Debo is, you know,
if you're going to compare it to the Rams game, right?
Puka went nuts, Kup didn't do a lot.
Kup's more of the underneath. They use him
a little bit like Debo and he couldn't get going.
Now that might say more about Kup, but
it just feels like Ayuk
is more important.
Ayuk and Kittle are more important for them
in this game than Debo.
So anything Debo gives them,
I think, is a bonus.
I don't think they need him
to win the game, though.
I think last week,
Juwan Jennings having five catches
on six targets,
including all those big third downs.
Those were huge plays.
I will add this.
Been doing it for a couple years,
by the way, Juwan Jennings.
Yes, you see him number 15
you're like who's 15
oh it's that guy
oh yes
that guy who caught the 28 yarder
last week for a touchdown
they call him
third and Juwan
like he's that guy
and
he's the locker room guy too
the pump up guy
and you saw what he did
on the sidelines
where he threw the guy
into the Gatorade tank
like that's apparently
how he is always
but Debo is their shit talker
and Debo is their tone setter.
So Debo and Chauncey Gardner-Johnson
have been yapping all season long
about each other.
And I kind of like having Debo on the field
just for his,
I would say almost,
the machismo,
like what he brings out there.
It's just like alpha stuff
that Debo brings out there.
And it's like,
we got Trent Williams.
He's going to pound you.
We've got McCaffrey.
He's going to,
we got you checking Kittle. You know they're going to kick your ass. And oh yeah, we got Trent Williams. He's going to pound you. We've got McCaffrey. We got you,
Sheck and Kittle.
You know they're going to
kick your ass.
And oh yeah,
we got me too.
And I could lower the shoulder.
So I like having Debo out there
a lot more than not having him.
I think it's actually
a really big deal.
My other fear for the Lions,
Joan Jackson,
their left guard,
who everybody says
is really good.
I'm not about to pretend
to know a lot about
the guards in the NFL.
But everybody's like,
that guy's really awesome.
And then Ragnow,
the center who got hurt twice last week.
Yeah.
So 100%.
Um,
I just,
this to me feels like the lions at home.
I still feel like the Rams could have,
and probably should have won that game.
And then Tampa,
that game was way too close last week,
but the lions pull both of them out,
but they're at home. They have a massive home field advantage because it's so loud in there. Now that game was way too close last week, but the Lions pulled both of them out, but they're at home.
They have a massive home field advantage because it's so loud in there.
Now that's a way.
Now that defense, which wasn't even good with a lot of noise and a massive home field advantage.
Now you're going to San Francisco against a team that we were all saying the whole year
was the most talented offense in the league, Debo or no Debo.
The only thing that makes me feel okay about them,
if you're going to make the case for the Lions, other than
too many points, I'll take the points, I'll take my chances.
They're really physical
and they're a little bit cheap, too.
They hold
a lot. There's a lot of things
that aren't called every player's defense.
They'll hit guys low. They took out Higby
in the round one game.
I wouldn't say they're dirty.
I would say they're very physical.
And that like they get away with a lot of things.
They're like right on the line of, yeah, just like, ooh, I don't know about that play.
And I think with the Niners, I want to see somebody just smash them out their offense.
McCaffrey, guy who's gone down a lot.
Debo, he's already hurt.
Kittle has been hurt a bunch.
Purdy, who knows?
Are they going to go into this game and just be like,
we're going fucking 1978 Raiders on these guys.
1977 Raiders.
We're going after everybody.
Yeah, we're hitting people over the middle.
Jack Tatum.
Who's that guy, Branch, number 32?
Yeah, Cliff Branch.
He hits a couple guys a little late, takes the penalty.
He's fine.
The old Branch from the Raiders.
Okay, yes.
Yes, Brian Branch from Clemson, 32.
Yes.
So that would be my one thing that worries me
is that Campbell gets them so aggro
and it's just like, we're beating the shit out of these guys.
Too fired up.
I feel the same way about the Lions.
Like I did the Packers last week.
They feel like they're a year away.
Now I know they're a lot older and they've got Decker
and you've got Ragnow.
These are veterans and these guys have been there. And Chelsea Gardner Decker and you've got Ragnow. These are veterans.
And these guys have been there.
And Chelsea Gardner-Johnson's a veteran.
All these guys are veterans.
And golf, of course, has been in big games.
But I just feel like this is San Francisco's year.
And next year might be Detroit's year.
Getting to the NFC Championship game is a major accomplishment.
And their home crowd stuff was awesome.
And winning the NFC North and all these first-time-since stuff is great.
I feel like San Francisco, this is their year. They've been primed for it. And they've been the best team all season in the NFC North and all these first time since stuff is great. I feel like San Francisco,
this is their year.
They've been primed for it and they've been the best team all season in the
NFC.
And why would they all of a sudden drop the ball here against that Lions
team that is coming on the road into unfriendly territory?
Yeah.
Maybe it's their 2018 Chiefs moment where they almost get there,
but it lays the foundation or like the 2012 Seahawks was like,
Oh man, we almost beat the Falcons.
But here we go.
Now we laid all the groundwork.
I, if you're thinking narratives, just in general, like we're heading into the Super Bowl.
Narratives that make sense to me are San Francisco being in the game.
And we just get to talk about Purdy for two weeks.
Because that's been one of the dominant words.
And then you go on the other side, like Lamar.
Anyone could have had him.
Anyone could have made an offer.
Nobody did.
Now his one gave away.
Anyone could have had him twice.
He was the 32nd overall pick.
And then this, of course,
this offseason was weird in the fact that no one did jump
and try to just give the house away for him.
And then if Mahomes somehow made it,
then it becomes, holy shit.
Greatest ever.
He is now like,
if he can stay healthy and get a few
more, this is going to be a wrap. Brady
should be officially concerned.
I put a tweet out yesterday.
I took to Twitter and I said,
because Lamar was
talking about Mahomes, he's a Hall of
Famer. I'm a good player. Two of us are heavyweights. And I said, because Lamar was like, he's a Hall of Fame, talking about Mahomes, like he's a Hall of Famer. I'm a good player.
I'm a heavyweight.
Two of us are heavyweights.
And I said,
if Patrick Mahomes
never takes a snap again,
and God forbid,
we would have,
he is a first ballot
Hall of Famer unanimous.
And the response was like,
of course he is,
you fucking idiot.
Like everyone was like,
yes.
So it's not even debated.
Like,
he never has to play
another game again.
And Mahomes already
has accomplished that much.
Terrell Davis is in.
Yes. Yeah. It's the Terrell Davis much. Terrell Davis is in. Yeah.
It's the Terrell Davis line.
Terrell Davis, not a long career, but he was like, no, I think he should be in.
Yeah.
He's probably the best running back I've ever seen.
One more guy for the Lions is Brock Wright, their best blocker.
Well, he's the tight end.
And he's the guy that had the big third and one.
He had a 29-yard play.
That was huge last week.
So I'm just thinking about it because everyone's like,
Detroit, they can run the ball.
They're missing their blocker tight end.
They brought in Zach Ertz.
Zach Ertz is who they brought in. On a week?
Who hasn't played football all year?
Hasn't played football in a couple months
and is more of a pass-catching tight end
than a blocking one. But yeah, no, Brock Wright's a very big
important part of everything. Jonah Jackson's important.
Those are big
losses.
Yeah, I just wonder,
because you're going into the game and you're going,
oh, Lions, they'll be able to run the ball.
And then the first play,
they just get stoned on three plays.
Now the Niners are coming down.
Now it's 7-0, and you're just like,
oh, man, why did I take the Lions?
I'm much more confident on the Niners.
I see you on the Chiefs.
I think in your heart,
you know the Ravens are the right pick. You just don't want to vary from your Super Bowl pick. But to me, it almost seems too
easy. Maybe this is a playoff manifesto rule down the road, but the matchup that seems too easy in
the Super Bowl, maybe that should be a be careful. One more piece of this. I am watching the Ravens Chiefs games with, uh,
with Mallory Rubin in Chicago because we're doing the rewatchables the next day. She's going to be
a nervous wreck, man. Yeah. People were like, wow, she's going to be, she's going to be a, a,
a lunatic. And I'm like, yeah, either way, if they win, she's going to be a lunatic. She's going to cry mess about the women. I'm going to have to lock all the windows in the hotel.
So I think that's a positive for the Ravens game, though.
Good vibes.
I'm bringing all my Boston title karma.
What is the rewatchables that night?
Do we know which one it is?
Monday night, we're doing The Fugitive.
Okay, that's a great movie.
Yeah.
I will be in Baltimore
and this is the coolest thing.
I am going
not for NFL Network,
not for Fox,
not for my podcast.
I'm going with my son.
I'm going as a fan.
I'm going to be sitting in the crowd
and I'm just going to go
and enjoy this one.
I think this is going to be
an all-time game
and I'm going to be excited to see it.
And if I happen to bump into
Taylor or Jason or whoever else, then I'll mix it up. But I think this'm going to be excited to see it. And if I happen to bump into Taylor or Jason or whoever
else, then I'll mix it up. But I think this is going to be one of those, where were you when
that game happened? I think it's going to be that epic between Mahomes and Lamar on Sunday.
Yeah. Some people are saying this would be an all-timer. I don't know if the Chiefs are good
enough to produce an all-timer. To me, if this is a close game, that means
it's probably ugly and weird and disjointed
and, you know,
Baltimore's defense is too good.
They're awesome. Do you think it matters it's the early
window? Like, is there ever,
because I remember watching Falcons-Vikings
in 98, and it was
the early window, and then it was Broncos-Jets.
I remember being so just exhausted from
that early window. Do you think it matters that it's the early window? Could you still have an all-time great conference championship game if it's the early window. And then it was Broncos-Jets. I remember being so just exhausted from that early window. Do you think it matters
that it's the early window? Could you still have an all-time great
conference championship game if it's the early one?
I think so. I think so too.
I think the case for the Chiefs is if it
basically is like that Baltimore Rams overtime
game. They run the ball. I think
in that game, Kyron Williams had like 125 yards
rushing. Stafford was lights out.
He was like 300 plus and three TDs.
And they kept moving the ball back and forth. They lose an OT out. He was like 300 plus and three TDs and they kept moving
the ball back and forth.
They lose an OT.
But so it hasn't,
it's not like we haven't seen
the right kind of team.
But the Rams,
I think their weapons
are just better
than KC's weapons.
One more thing.
Chris Jones made,
I think,
a million and a half dollars
for being a first team
all pro.
I think he made another million
for hitting nine sacks.
I think he makes another million
if they make the Super Bowl.
So these are a little interesting nuggets
if you want to keep your eyes open for me.
Can I give you two quick bets?
Props?
Yes.
Fred Warner interception.
What do you think the odds are?
Plus 360.
12 to one on FanDuel.
You like him picking off Jared Goff over the middle?
I think that's this.
We almost hit the overtime last week with the Chiefs-Bills.
Oh my God, 12-1.
We had it.
I think Fred Warner interception is the fun, crazy prop.
And then there's a parlay of San Francisco wins the first half in the game.
And then you can take the over down to over 39.5 points.
40 points covers it.
And that's basically even.
It's minus 112.
And that seems pretty solid.
What were the odds on a DeMar Hamlin up-back fake punt call?
Were there any odds on that last week?
No, we did not have that one.
I think if you're betting Chiefs,
I like Casey Moneyline, Pacheco 70-plus rush, Kelsey and Rice, both 40 plus for receiving.
That's like five to one.
And then there's some Ravens stuff where I think you could bet them first half game, Justice Hill, 25 yards, Gus Edwards, 25 yards.
Lamar scores a TD.
You can get to like five to one.
What do you think of Dalvin Cook?
I was looking for Dalvin Cook odds
because I thought he looked like the best running back.
He was. Really?
Yeah, I feel like we could be hearing from
him, right? Yes.
Especially second half, going against
that Chiefs D.
This is my last odds stat.
Gus Edwards and Isaiah
Pacheco, the two starting running backs
in this game, both
Rutgers running backs representing the
Scarlet Knights. Let's go.
Is that true?
A former Belichick favorite school
who's grabbing Rutgers people.
Before we go, have you heard anything
about the 1-2-3 in the draft for the
QBs? Is it too early?
No, we could chat about
it. I heard that. I just want to know quick, because this is my half of my life revolves
around this now. Yeah, I think Williams is definitely looked at as the number one first
one off the board, whether it's Chicago or not. That's why we have three months to build up for
it. And I'm hoping they don't trade the pick yet so we can at least debate that. And then it's a
crapshoot because you see Daniel Jeremiah, who I absolutely
love. He's got May at number two. And then I saw Mel Kuyper had Daniels at number two. And I think
you can go either or. It depends what you like. They're two very different quarterbacks. Daniels,
of course, the big upside, the superstar sensation. And May is more of your traditional
dropback quarterback. And it's going to go those three, one, two, three. It depends on what the
order though. I think Caleb's one. And then at two and three,
you can kind of mix and match where you like it.
I don't remember a top three where you could make a case for each guy and
each spot in a while.
Cause you could tell me,
like I was,
I was texting cause the ringer NFL draft show we have,
they did a really good show this week,
but they didn't talk about the QBs.
And I was like,
guys,
I need QB talk every week. Like I just, This is an order. As someone who's in a content world like
you and we do the NFL Network show, I love the teams. I mean, you're talking about the Chicago
market. That was my point. The Boston market. Yeah. The Giants. The greatest successor.
And Washington. There's so many different things involved. I asked them though,
how fast would Jaden Daniels have to run in the combine
for people to lose their minds and talk about that?
I was like, if Jaden Daniels runs a 4.29 in the 40,
what happens?
And Solak's like, if he does a 4.29,
I'll eat like 10 pounds of cheese that night.
The cheese and the bird watching.
But we were like, what is it though?
Like a 4.38?
Is it a 4.35?
What number to get people to lose their fucking minds about him?
Because he does feel like he could go into the combine and people would lose their minds.
Here's the wild card on Daniels, which I haven't't seen anywhere else but multiple people have hit me with and they're like
the Raiders of the 13th pick
they are not in quarterback distance
for any of those guys but Antonio
Pierce was at Arizona
State with Jaden Dan and the two of them are
apparently very tight
is there a way that the Raiders can somehow mortgage
their entire future and move up and get that
guy that's something I would watch just for the connection
of coach and quarterback because you know they hired Antonio Pierce and people around the
league were like, really? You've got Bill Belichick and Mike Vrabel and you're hiring Antonio Pierce.
I think if you can get him a quarterback out of the gates and not force him to play with a retread
or go with Aiden O'Connell, you're a lot better off. But the 13th pick is just out of striking
range. I think that's too far. I think Atlanta at eight to me seems conceivable because you're a lot better off, but the 13th pick is just out of striking range. I think that's too far. I think Atlanta at 8 to me
seems conceivable
because you're only going back 5 spots.
You're still getting one of the awesome
receivers. You're getting
other first-round picks from him, all that stuff.
All three of these guys are going to get torn apart
too in the next three months, so be ready. We might be talking
about they're all incredible, but there
will be flaws, and there will be S2 cognition
tests, and there will be wonderlicks. You know how we do it. We tear them down and then we build them
up. Peter Schrager, great to see you as always. Let's go. Million Dollar Picks Conference
Championship Weekend, or as some of us call it, round three. You might remember after week eight of the 2023
NFL season on Million Dollar Picks, I was down $1.93 million and I was really bummed out. I was
like, what's happened? What's happened to me? Why can't I get this together? What am I not seeing?
I had even my preseason picks, I had the Patriots to make the playoffs and the Giants to
make the playoffs. I was like, I'm just off. I'm off this season. Maybe it's just not my year.
And you know what? A lot of people would have quit. I wasn't one of those people. I was like,
what am I doing wrong? You know what I did? A lot of self-reflection. I reevaluated my entire
process and I came to the conclusion, I'm not working hard enough. I got
to work harder on these picks. I got to study more. I got to take more notes during the games.
I can turn this around. Well, guess what? Over the next 12 weeks on million dollar picks,
betting basically $300,000 a game max or less, I won $5.068 million. And I'm not saying that to brag. It could end this week.
I'm just saying I didn't quit. What has every sports movie we've ever loved in the history
of mankind taught us? Don't quit. Don't give up. You're going to hit a dark moment. You can crawl
your way back. Well, last 12 weeks on my big bets, anything basically over 150,000, I'm 39, 19,
and one. You can go back. You can go listen to every one of them. I think that's the record.
I've been doing really well, which leads me to conference championship weekend on Million Dollar
Picks, conference championship weekend, not round three. We're not allowed to call it round three. I like the Niners and I like the Ravens. And we talked about all this with
Peter Schrager. All week I was in my head, I'm going to take the Chiefs. I'm going to take the
Chiefs. I'm going to make the Chiefs. And they just look like a sucker bet. It just looks like
a mistake. It looks like this line should be
six and a half or seven. It's already moved to four in some spots. It's three and a half on FanDuel.
And basically, if you're taking the Chiefs, you're saying, I'm going to ignore the fact that they
really haven't had any really decisive good wins against a good team all season. I'm going to
ignore the fact that they trounced this Miami defense that was decimated in
freezing cold weather when Tua was helpless. I'm going to ignore the fact that they barely beat
Buffalo, a team that was missing a slew of defensive starters and Gabe Davis and kind of
gave the game away, if you want to be honest. I'm in on the Chiefs' comeback story. The NFL wants
this. They want Taylor Swift at the Super Bowl.
Don't overthink this.
Always bet on Mahomes.
And if you're going to bet that,
and you're going to take the plus three and a half in the hook,
I honestly can't blame you.
Because if Mahomes wins this with an inferior team in Baltimore,
a team with an awesome home field advantage,
a team that has more decisive playoff
wins or wins against playoff teams and winning teams than basically anyone in recent NFL history.
Name a challenger. They've come in and smoked them or beaten them or outlasted them.
And now they're home and this is their moment. And the Chiefs are coming in,
not really positive what they're great at
other than having Patrick Mahomes.
They're good enough on defense, not great.
We haven't seen them have to play from behind in a lot of games.
And when they have, it hasn't been awesome.
Kelsey, does he have three good hours in him?
Because we're going to need that.
We've seen him with a good hour, maybe a good two hours, but three, not really. Pacheco is their biggest asset in this game.
Can he just run the ball? Can they control the clock? Can they make it a low scoring,
ugly 21-17 type of game? They could. I fully acknowledge it. But I think this is the Ravens
time. And I think they have the best team in the AFC. At
least we'll find out if it's the best team in the league, their home, everything's lined up.
And I like the Ravens to win. Now the minus three and a half we'll get to later. I want to put the
Ravens in a tease with the Niners, this Niners offense versus the Lions defense, who, as we
talked about with Schrager, um, Tampa moved the ball on them however they wanted.
So did the Rams.
There's all these games that you can go back over the last half of the season, the playoffs,
where teams, big yards per play, receivers over and over again.
There's always one receiver on the other team who seems to have a monster game against them.
I think it could be Brandon Ayuk in this game. And they're a little overvalued because they looked really, you know, really competent
at home with an awesome crowd against, you know, Rams team that was a little banged up,
a Tampa team that I don't think anyone, Tampa finished nine and nine on the season
or nine and 10, 10 and nine. I can't remember, but they were around 500.
Anyway, I actually think they could smoke the Lions,
but I'm not going to predict that because if you put the Ravens and the Niners together
in a parlay, minus 110.
So 550,000 or risk 500
is going to be our first million dollar pick. We've never gone that
high all season. I'm not going to get cute. I'm not going to make a hundred different small bets
and try to win all these different things. We're going all in. I think we're going to have a Ravens
Niners Superbowl. I think those have been the best two teams all year. If you think any outcome
other than that is going to happen, either you're overthinking it or you're just trying to will something happen
that might not be ordained to happen.
Ravens, Niners, minus 110, 500K in that.
We're going to put 100K bets just because we have to.
We have to go on the record with these games.
I'm eight and two straight up in the playoffs this year.
So we got to do 100K on the Ravens minus three and a
half. And we're doing 100K in a parlay that is plus 100. Niners to win the first half.
Niners to win the game combined with the over 41 and a half. So 100K on both of those.
Then we're putting 25K in the Niners minus seven, just on the record straight up. Two parlays that I like.
This one is plus 498 from the Ravens game.
Ravens win first half, Ravens win the game.
Lamar touchdown.
Edwards and Hill both have 25 plus yards.
That is plus 498.
And then we're going to take a shot at Niners
to win the first half, Niners to win the game.
Brandon Ayuk to have 90 plus
yards. Again, big legacy of receivers torching the Lions. Puka, Mike Evans last week, Keenan Allen,
Christian Watson had the best game of his season. You go over and over again. CD Lamb had like 200
plus yards against them. So Ayuk to have 90 yards. I have, Iuk scoring a TD
and McCaffrey
have 40 plus receiving yards
because you know
he's going to take a wheel route
like 35 yards.
All of those together
plus 1079
putting 25K on that.
And then last but not least,
laid this out
with Schrager earlier.
Goff loves throwing
over the middle of the field.
You know who's in the middle
of the field for the Niners?
Fred Warner.
The most terrifying middle of the field linebacker we have in the middle of the field for the Niners? Fred Warner. The most terrifying
middle of the field linebacker
we have in the NFL.
I think he gets an interception.
We're putting 10K on a Fred Warner interception
that is 12 to 1
on FanDuel.
And those are
the million dollar picks.
I am up 3.138 million
for the season.
I am up 1.006 million for the playoffs.
We have a little nest egg.
Let's see if we can keep it going.
Those are the million dollar picks for round three.
All right, that's it for the podcast.
Thanks to Peter Schrager.
Thanks to Rob Mahoney.
Thanks to Steve Cerruti and Kyle Creighton as well.
Don't forget to check out youtube.com slash Bill Simmons
if you want to see some of my dumb walk and talk stuff I'm doing
that people seem to like, at least some people, who knows,
plus clips and videos from this podcast from the rewatchables.
I will see you on Sunday night after the two games.
I will be in the city of Chicago.
We'll see what happens.
Have a good weekend.
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