The Bill Simmons Podcast - The Double Doink Game, NFL Gambling Wounds, Round 2 Lines, and TSA Troubles With Cousin Sal | The Bill Simmons Podcast (Ep. 465)

Episode Date: January 7, 2019

HBO and The Ringer's Bill Simmons is joined by Cousin Sal to talk Cowboys-Seahawks, the agonizing Bears-Eagles game, and the rest of wild-card weekend (2:40), before guessing the lines for the divisio...nal round of the NFL Playoffs (49:55). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:00 Right. Twice a week. Let's go twice a week. Yeah. We're going to try. Don't touch your tattoo. Right. We'll try. Don't touch the tattoo, right? We'll try.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Don't touch the tattoo. Ask, but don't ask either. Kyle has on his Twitter handle. Now don't touch my tattoo. Maybe don't get the tattoo. I don't know. What else do we have to look?
Starting point is 00:02:19 Yeah, that's it. Let's start the podcast. We're going to call sign right now. First, our friends from Pearl Jam. Alright, on the line. Big Dick Sal, Cousin Sal.
Starting point is 00:02:47 Oh, no, the Big Dick Nick. I'm sorry. There's so many Big Dicks today, I'm getting confused. Big Dick Nick did it again. I bet against him. I texted you. I hedged at halftime. I wanted to hedge at halftime, and I talked myself out of it, and then the Eagles came down and won.
Starting point is 00:03:02 I don't know if that's the legacy of this weekend. Would you go with the double-doink kick, or would you go with Seattle with the greatest random gambling cover of the last five years? Man, they're both really good, but this double-doink kick is fresh in my mind, and I know we all had, and I urged everyone to bet the Bears. I had them as my best bet. I loved them, at least on a teaser.
Starting point is 00:03:22 We all had them, and that was heartbreaking, especially when he makes the first one before the icing timeout. Just miserable, miserable to watch. Yeah, I almost wish they would miss the first one on the icing timeout. Let's go backwards. So we'll do Bears-Eagles first, and then we'll hit the other ones, and we'll do Guest Alliance later. So they score.
Starting point is 00:03:43 They go up 15-10. They're home. The Eagles have done really jack shit the whole game. Even the, even the one touchdown drive they had was kept alive by two really dumb penalties, including my least favorite penalty these days, which is the guy coming into tackle the receiver who then ducked his head after the guy had started his tack already. And that kept the third down alive. I'm not positive the Eagles would have scored a touchdown in this game otherwise. Anyway, 15-10.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Khalil Mack now on the field. There's guys running around. There's weird formations. And then Khalil Mack sprinting toward the sideline like it's part of the play, all leading to a weird handoff to a wide receiver who then has to jump three yards over the line that, of course, gets stuffed.
Starting point is 00:04:31 That turned out to be the play of the game because they were only up five. Eagles come down, they score the go-ahead touchdown, and the Bears can't come back. So let's start there. How is that your best play, Sal? Well, it can't be your best play. And just a minute before we started this podcast,
Starting point is 00:04:45 I looked up that wide receiver is Taylor Gabriel. He's listed at 5'8", 165. And you're throwing him a little, you're having him create all his business in the middle of the field. He's going to have to get three yards, like two and a half. By the time he gets the ball, he's like three and a half yards behind the goal line. And then he has to do that whole thing where, you know, it's 50-50. If you get the ball over, you're reaching over and you're getting your 165-pound body scrambled in the midst. It couldn't be the best play. I have a high take.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Is that their Philly special? Because that's garbage if it is. Yeah, that was the Philly diarrhea special. Yeah. I have an idea. Give the ball to a running back. Those guys are usually used to knowing what to do when they get handed off a ball in a situation like that.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Here's the other thing that drove me crazy. Collinsworth says, even before the two-point, oh, there's Khalil Mack. You know, Nagy loves to have a lot of fireworks as a decoy and then ends up not actually, and then that's exactly what happened. Khalil Mack's just sprinting like they're going to throw him some sort of out pass or something.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Meanwhile, Philly has their whole season on the line a little bit later and they run a great play to Golden Tate to get the touchdown. All right, so start there. Terrible two point. You have the best defense in the league. You have the best defense statistically
Starting point is 00:06:00 of the decade. You're home. It's cold out. You've only given up 10 points. The other team can't run the decade. You're home. It's cold out. You've only given up 10 points. The other team can't run the ball. This is it. It's game over. This is where you've played the whole season
Starting point is 00:06:14 to get to this point, to be up five at home. All you have to do is get a stop. You win the game. Not only do they not get a stop, the Eagles get a first down inside the five under two minutes and 40 first down inside the five. Under two minutes and 40
Starting point is 00:06:27 seconds ticks off the clock. The Bears just say, you know what? Let's not use a timeout here. We're going to wait. There's no way we'll need this 40 seconds later. We're just going to run this off. So then the Eagles end up scoring on fourth down. Now they're coming down
Starting point is 00:06:43 with, they only have one timeout left. Trubisky, great play. First down, I think they're inside the 30. Great throw. They're at the 33 or 34. Yeah, 33. Yeah. Tom Brady hustles down and spikes it.
Starting point is 00:06:59 You have to go and spike it. You have to spike it. That's the reason you call the timeouts and leave your quarterback, even if it's not Mitch Trubisky, who really doesn't have any experience with a miracle comeback, but you leave him 145 with no timeouts is so much better than 54 with one timeout. Because 54 with one timeout, if you're sacked, that's it. It's over. 145, you're controlling the offense. You're controlling the pace. Trubisky could run down and clock the ball. You can clock the ball really anywhere on
Starting point is 00:07:29 the field within 10 or 12 seconds. So that's why 145, that is such a no-brainer. And I can't stand it. I know they're under the microscope more because now we're only watching one game at a time, but these coaches absolutely suck. They really do. It's like starting with the bowl games, like I don't understand what I'm watching. And like people will get on my case. Like you're not a coach. You can't talk about that. I was like,
Starting point is 00:07:50 well, you know what? If I'm watching a movie and Brad Pitt is just told that his grandmother was run over by a train and he starts laughing. I think I can call that out. I'm not an actor, but I could be like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:08:00 that doesn't seem like the right reaction there. This is the same thing. What the hell's going on here? How many times do we have to see this clock management get screwed up by these guys who are praised? Nagy is supposed to be one of the great ones. Praised all year. And it comes down to bite him in the ass because then Parkey kicks a 43-yarder,
Starting point is 00:08:15 which in January in the cold is 50-50 proposition. Boy, we're both riled up. I do feel like the wrong team won the game and that's I don't mean to take credit away from the Eagles because I think it was awesome that they were
Starting point is 00:08:29 able to go down the field and get the go ahead touchdown the fourth down play was awesome but the Bears were built to win that game especially like
Starting point is 00:08:38 they have the perfect team for a two point conversion they were in this situation in the Giants game that we I think we both had money on that they drove it into overtime on a really nice two-point play that they got
Starting point is 00:08:51 and then the Giants ended up winning overtime. But to me, it starts with that play. Then you go with the defense just not being able to get a stop. Then using the timeouts incorrectly. Then not spiking the ball. So if Trubisky comes down, they spike the ball. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:09:08 What would have been like 25 seconds left? 20, 20, somewhere in there. 22. I don't know what the exact number is, but at least you have your timeout. Now I can throw the ball over the middle. Right. You can run.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Trubisky could take off. How about, how about all these running quarterbacks? Let them take off a design run play for Tr Trubisky could have picked up seven yards. He should have been running the whole play the whole time. Maybe he should have run the two-point conversion. Same thing with Seattle. We'll talk about that later. Russell Wilson should have run more.
Starting point is 00:09:35 All these running quarterbacks could have done themselves a favor. So then they end up basically settling for what they got because on the play before the field goal kick, they actually ran the right play on that play. They tried to go deep ball because it was too risky to really do anything else. Trubisky overthrew it. Now you're settling for the 43-yarder. And I'm sorry, but I certainly felt betting. All I needed was the Bears to win on a tease, and I won my bet.
Starting point is 00:10:04 I didn't feel confident in the 43 yarder. 43 and beyond, it's weird. I feel like 41 is probably the cutoff for me to get nervous. Is that fair? What's the number for you? I like it in the 30s. I really do. And outdoors in January, I'd like to see.
Starting point is 00:10:18 I think there's a psychological advantage if a kicker thinks he's kicking a 39 versus a 40, 41. I think it's so much different but i what i don't understand is they keep showing that red line like well 53 yards that's his thing it's like now throw that out because that means nothing in these games in this situation especially a guy who's missed half his field goals and or 10 field goals and keeps hitting every upright and every major stadium in the country like i don't know. I think get him closer. You're not doing him any favors. And then they do the
Starting point is 00:10:48 classic move of, they actually mention the upright things before the kick, which I'd forgotten about. I was like, oh yeah, this is the uprights guy. Oh no. Then it hits the upright. Somehow NBC spends, I don't know, a kajillion dollars on their cameras.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Somehow they have the cool camera behind the guy, and it's impossible to tell whether the field goal went in. Then the Eagles are celebrating, so you find out it didn't. Then they're like, let's go to our replays of the kick. They somehow don't have a replay of the ball landing on the upright for the second doink. On the crossbar, yeah. I'm sorry, on the crossbar.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Upright crossbar. And I don't think I wanted a replay more all year than just like, wow, what are the odds that the ball hits the upright and goes backwards instead of forwards? It had to be like a coin flip. Amazing. But this is like, we talk about this every year
Starting point is 00:11:38 we've been doing this. This is probably the 12th postseason, maybe the 13th. But these games are fucking coin flip sometimes. And now like, you know, the Eagles could get in the Super Bowl again and it could all come down to if that ball had bounced, you know, the laces of the ball had hit the crossbar instead of the other side, it rolls over.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Then I was thinking if that ball landed on the crossbar and then kind of fell over for three points, that would have been the most memorable field goal since Vinatieri in the tuck roll game, right? Well, it would only happen if we didn't have the Bears on a teaser. But I mean, I'm with you. I don't want to take anything away from Nick Foles, but how about this? How much would you have had on that teaser if you knew that the Eagles would rush for 38 yards and that Nick Foles would throw two interceptions? Well, that's the thing. And having a chance to hedge at halftime, and just from what I watched, I was like, man, I don't think the Eagles can really move the ball.
Starting point is 00:12:40 And as it turned out on that first touchdown, the penalties really helped them. Then that last drive was really great. And Big Dick Nick gets credit yet again, man. I just don't know if Wentz does that. There's a calm about him, especially when you're on the road. And this was the fear of going against the Eagles because you knew that was one of the very
Starting point is 00:13:00 few teams that was crazy enough to think they could win that game in Chicago. They showed a stat in the second quarter, maybe third quarter, of what his numbers were when he gets hit. And they're pretty spectacular. There were no interceptions in the bunch. There was one touchdown, no interceptions, but
Starting point is 00:13:15 everything was good. It was like 70% or something completion. I heard Lombardi on Jam Street heading into the weekend was talking about how he thought it was really dumb that the Bears basically tried to beat the Vikings to play the Eagles. Oh, yeah. And I personally didn't care because I was like, whatever. It was no different than your team trying to get some momentum heading into the playoffs with the Week 17 game.
Starting point is 00:13:44 But he made a point, and it was sticking in my craw all weekend because I love the Bears. I was like you. I thought, I was like, the Eagles are going to score 10 points in this game. And basically we weren't wrong. They had 10 points with five minutes left. But he was saying by deliberately deciding that they were going to play the Eagles by beating the Vikings, that was motivation for Peterson all going to play the Eagles By beating the Vikings That was motivation for Peterson
Starting point is 00:14:06 All week to do the whole Well they wanted you guys They could have played the Vikings They didn't want to play the Vikings They wanted to play you And I was thinking that's pretty good nobody believes in us I haven't checked the quotes after the game But you could kind of work with that if you're a head coach
Starting point is 00:14:22 I guess what are you supposed to do though if you're Chicago If you lay down to play the Vikings, they have the same motivation. Do you just play for a tie? I don't know what you're – it was Nagy's first mistake. First of many. Maybe you could lay down in the sense of you just don't play anybody and be like, look, man, our team's banged up. Like, this is not – you know, we don't care who we play in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:14:44 I just want a healthy team that's a harder one um to take seriously but man you go backwards and you think first of all this team had a chance to play Kirk Cousins in the playoffs we talked about this last week it seems like that's always the option I'd rather have Kirk Cousin than Kirk Cousins of the team that sure I mean what'd you see about that Vikings offense that scared you last week? It seems like the Bears could have duplicated that. Right. And then secondly, the reality is they only scored 15 points and they were home.
Starting point is 00:15:14 And that was the big question mark with this team. When we got to the playoffs, would they actually be able to score points? Their defense, even though they gave up that last big drive, they still, if you're saying like, we're only going to give up 16 points in this game, you should win at home. Right. So, man, I think the Bears were really good.
Starting point is 00:15:33 It's funny. I feel like the Browns are really good. I felt like they should have been in the playoffs. I think the Bears were good. They're out. I don't know what to make of this anymore. Well, Vegas had the Bears at 11-1 to win the whole thing. And the next biggest odds or next lowest odds out of any team that played this weekend
Starting point is 00:15:50 with the Ravens and Chargers, who I'm sure we're going to talk about next, were 18-1. Yeah, and I felt the Bears, like they had a nice shot. If they would have won, they would have created mismatches with the Rams, who they already beat. They would have been in a nice spot. But yeah, this one shocks me. It really does. I guess I shouldn't be with Philly anymore.
Starting point is 00:16:09 And now you have Big Dick Nicks going to New Orleans. If you're in New Orleans, you're feeling great, but yet you haven't played in three weeks, and now you're playing this team that it just does not die, that continues to have these breaks falling their way and they're making their own breaks to some degree.
Starting point is 00:16:29 I don't know. That doesn't seem like a fair six seed to be coming in. Well, it's also like, who would you rather play if you're New Orleans? Would you rather play Dallas as a built-in revenge factor in there?
Starting point is 00:16:41 Dallas beat them on Thursday night, you know, in a night game. There's got to be some motivation there. Or would them on Thursday night, you know, in a night game. There's got to be some motivation there. Or would you rather play the team you beat? I think they beat the Eagles 38-7.
Starting point is 00:16:52 That was with Winslow. 48-7, sorry. 48-7 in the middle of November. I don't know. I think they got, I think I'd rather play Dallas, I think,
Starting point is 00:16:59 if I was New Orleans. To be fair, that was with medium-sized Dick Carson. That's right, yeah. That's not Dick Carson. That's right, yeah. That's not Dick Carson. Adequately hung Carson. Right.
Starting point is 00:17:09 I know what his thing is. Yeah, so the other game today, Chargers-Ravens, which, you know, it's funny. And people were doing this on the Ring around NFL Slack, and I felt it on Twitter, too. Everybody was, like, defending Lamar Jackson and being like, come on, it's the it on Twitter too. Everybody was defending Lamar Jackson and being like, come on, it's the play calling too. And everybody
Starting point is 00:17:29 wants this Lamar Jackson thing to happen so badly. I'm a huge fan. I've been bitching that the Pats passed him up in the draft for eight months now. He was awful in the first three quarters. The coaches were also awful, but Lamar was awful. And he just looked like the moment was too big for him.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Finally settled down in garbage time. They spread the field out. They did some more stuff on them. But the reality is he fumbled once. He threw a pick. He put the ball on the ground two other times. He took some bad sacks and just didn't seem comfortable ever in that game until it got into garbage time.
Starting point is 00:18:06 And the Chargers looked locked in. I don't understand football enough to know what a big deal it was that they were playing the three safeties to try to throttle the run offense, but it definitely worked. And it was one of those games within five minutes, like, oh, wow, the Ravens are going to lose. It just had that feel immediately, right? But as they were coming back,
Starting point is 00:18:24 and I couldn't believe they were back in that game, they had the ball dry or they had a chance to win there. As a Patriots fan, knowing that one of these teams is coming to Foxborough, you had to be like, oh, please, please, Ravens, pull this out somehow. Because yeah, you're right. Lamar Jackson, that game seemed too big for him. Next week would seem twice as big. He had six yards passing halfway through the third quarter. There's a lot of talk
Starting point is 00:18:47 about Flacco coming in. I don't think that would've made a difference, but the guy ended up 14 for 29 with 194, mostly in garbage time. Yeah. And those are really,
Starting point is 00:18:56 really bad home stats in a big game like this. His stats with, with like 10 minutes to go were probably the most atrocious of anybody who actually was the starter heading into the playoffs. And it was crazy because I was joking in the Slack
Starting point is 00:19:10 at halftime for the ringer about bringing in Flacco. And then Boomer came on the halftime show. He was like, they got to bring in Flacco. And then they go back after halftime and they're showing, it looked like Lamar had gotten benched because he had the coat on. He looked really bummed out.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Flacco was next to him, and then Romo was talking about it, and it was like, wow. He was so bad in this game that we're actually going to have the Flacco conversation. Like, Flacco's career is over. He's never going to start another game. I saw RG3. I was like, all right, at least RG3 is something, but then I saw he wasn't dressed.
Starting point is 00:19:44 I don't think he was sitting next to Flacco. But, yeah, I think youG3. I was like, all right, at least RG3 something. But then I saw he wasn't dressed. I don't think he was sitting next to Flacco. But yeah, I think you're right. Those seven sacks he took, in a way, worse than a lot of the overthrows. There's some bad sacks, just no pocket awareness at all. At the same time, I thought the play calling by Harbaugh was almost like he was trying to pave the way to leave after the season or something. It was like, what are you doing? Spread the field.
Starting point is 00:20:10 They have nine guys in the box. You're not going to be able to run the ball. Stop. Right. You got to throw it. And they just didn't trust him. And, you know, that was one of the reasons they lost. I thought the Ravens played a good game though.
Starting point is 00:20:22 I mean, I'm sorry, the Chargers. Chargers. Yeah. I thought they were good in that game. And, you know, like... They were good. They were smart. When they ran on the side, but they could have closed it out earlier.
Starting point is 00:20:32 That 76 got called for a hold. Yeah, true. But Gordon, you know, when he stretched the field running-wise, that was the way to do it on the jet sweeps and everything. Not to run up the middle because that's where it gets clogged up
Starting point is 00:20:44 and the Ravens linebackers shine but yeah also with that with that uh we were talking about this like um watching like when 76 gets called for the hold and Gordon is way past him there yeah do they even should they even call it well you know you're gonna call you call uncatchable right on on passes on pass interference you can call uncatchable if the ball goes sailing out of bounds I wouldn't mind seeing like uh you know uncatchable and that that defender is not gonna ever ever if you fast forward a million years he's not touched he's never gonna catch untackleable Gordon you know untackleable untackleable yeah oh you reminded me we didn't talk about that crazy play in the bears game when the guy caught it it was a legal catch yeah fumbled and then nobody picked it up
Starting point is 00:21:33 and the empire picked it up because the referee is waving everything off like everyone get away as if this is a grenade that's about to go off in three seconds instead of just letting everything play through and then we find out afterwards that that they're not allowed to call it a catch if the ball was not recoverable, if they didn't allow the ball to be recoverable. So they had to go to their original bad call because they couldn't make do on the subsequent bad call. Yeah, new rule. First of all, pick up the live ball just for the hell of it. There's a football on up, pick up the live ball just for the hell of it.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Just go. There's a football on the ground. Just pick it up just for the hell of it. I also, that's how I was just walking to work. That's my model. Hey, there's a football.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Go get it. Also, can you, can you not blow the whistle until we're a hundred percent positive that this, this happens every week. It's really frustrating in this case he clearly took three steps with the ball i don't know what what they're whistling um you know sometimes human error and things happen so fast or whatever but that one it was like it seemed like a catch to the naked
Starting point is 00:22:36 eye that was a really big play because you know they ended up getting they i think they got a field goal anyway out of it they got a field goal the char of it. They got a field goal. The Chargers had a lot of field. If they had picked that ball up, they could have actually made something happen. The Eagles? I mean, not the Eagles. Yeah, the Eagles. Yeah, I thought the Chargers were unequivocally the better team. And if I'm a Bears fan, we have a couple on the ringer staff.
Starting point is 00:22:59 I know a few. That's a fucking tough loss, man. I mean, that is like levels of losing. It's not like in the top couple tiers but first of all when you lose a game that you will then 20 years from now you could say whatever the title for that game was
Starting point is 00:23:17 and your buddy will know immediately what game you're talking about that's never good this was the double doink game double doink gate this is the way it's going to be the double doink game. It's just that's the way it's going to be, the double doink. It'll live in infamy forever. It still defies physics a little. I didn't do great in physics, but for the ball to be hitting so hard,
Starting point is 00:23:35 hit so hard that it hits the middle of the upright, it's definitely got enough juice to be good from 50. And then to, okay, if it it bounces back that's one thing but then to hit the hit the crossbar that's unbelievable well we learned we learned a valuable lesson
Starting point is 00:23:52 if you have 45 cameras at a football game maybe get the maybe get a good shot of the kick that bounced off the
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Starting point is 00:25:15 Check it out. So going backwards to Saturday, we don't really have to talk about the Colts-Texans game. The Colts, it's funny, you picked the Texans, which I was like flabbergasted about because since basically October, you and I both loved the Colts and didn't understand the Texans thing at all.
Starting point is 00:25:32 And this seemed like the greatest time ever for us to jump on one. And then, I don't know what happened. What were you trying to outthink it? What was going on? I was trying to outthink it a little bit. It's funny, I went back. I didn't even realize I made a bet early in the week,
Starting point is 00:25:46 pretty substantial bet. And I didn't even realize. I made a bet early in the week, a pretty substantial bet, and I got killed both ways. I had Colts over 23.5 total points, team points. They had 21 with six minutes left in the second quarter. Oh, my God. They did not go over. That's a bad beat. You can't imagine that there's a bad beat in a 21-7 game at the Ravens. I'm sorry that the Texans didn't show up for but that was a bad beat
Starting point is 00:26:06 but yeah we don't need to talk about it I guess too much they just came out there and beat the crap out of them well you know the thing is they can block you know and I would put their offensive line at the very tip top and it became clear within about
Starting point is 00:26:22 six minutes of that game that Texans just weren't going to be able to get to luck unless they started sending crazy blitzes and doing all that shit the colts were just better uh we'll talk about their chances but there's a game we watched shakies by the way yeah yeah when uh shakies uh the pizza buffet tragically ended at two so we had to order more pizzas but decent turnout um Who knows if those people will ever get together again after the controversial trade that blew up our league. Lots of controversy. Hench apologized, but then went back on his way, backtracked a little bit.
Starting point is 00:26:55 It wasn't pretty. Yeah. By the way, there were some people, some fans of ours that were actually there whispering about us. And thank you for not bothering us. That was nice of you. I go the other way. Come on over. Say hello. Oh yeah, come on over. Say hi to Bill, not me.
Starting point is 00:27:11 Just come say hi. Alright, so the other game, your team. Your team, it's weird. Let me just, one thing about Houston before we say farewell to them. When they were down 7-0 and they had fourth and two, they're 38.
Starting point is 00:27:26 I was like, go for it. If it's 14-0, if you punt and it's 14-0, this game is over. And sure enough, it was. That was the only thing I was right about in that game. But a lot of conservative play calling by these coaches. I think they just fall apart in January. Well, then your team, Saturday night,
Starting point is 00:27:44 the Blood Diamond rematch. Do you want to tell America what was scheduled that day on cable? Someone sent me a screen grab of the DirecTV's programming. And within two channels of the Cowboys Seahawks was Blood Diamond playing on some Spanish television. So I would have to cry. I was like, oh, my God, this is crazy, crazy mental warfare going on. Because the first time these two played, or the last time these two played a playoff game in primetime, I watched Tony Romo botch the snap.
Starting point is 00:28:15 I demanded with the wife that we go off to see Blood Diamond because I had to get out of the house. And it wasn't the saddest movie I've ever seen. But I let the tears flow all over over all over the arc light in Studio City and I vowed to not have a rematch of that but yeah, DirecTV had other ideas absolutely incredible scheduling by them by the way, I got some emails from people who were upset
Starting point is 00:28:38 that we forgot that the original Romo game was in Seattle, not Dallas and look man we forget? I didn't forget. I'm turning 50 this year. I call my son Ben Zoe and my daughter Zoe Ben all the time. I'm not dealing with a full deck anymore. You can't get mad at me because I forgot that
Starting point is 00:28:55 the Romo game was in Seattle, not Dallas. I'm going to make mistakes. Why did we forget? We were supposed to show our ticket stubs? I knew it was in Seattle. Well, we said Dallas Dallas or I said Dallas and people were mad and have the location correctly listen America it's 2019 there's going to be
Starting point is 00:29:12 a lot of mistakes coming from this guy right here there's going to be mispronunciations I'm going to get dates wrong it's funny when I was in Boston right out of college they had this famous drive time local guy named Eddie Andelman and he would get everything wrong. He would call people the wrong name. He would call
Starting point is 00:29:31 Reggie Johnson instead of Reggie Lewis and Doug Brown instead of Dee Brown. And I always used to get endless delight out of just him screwing things up. And I'm headed there, Sal. That's why I bring this up. Yeah. I'm not that far away. I'm the there, Sal. That's why I bring this up. Yeah. I'm not that far away. I'm the same way. So your team, Dallas, you win, you advance, but you also bet on them and we're on the wrong end of I think one of the 20 great gambling moments slash whatever that unfolded of this decade, this century. Terrible gambling.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Oh, great. All right. Yeah, I guess whoever you have. Well, first of all, all four underdogs covered this weekend. Yeah. If you got Seattle plus two and a half, if you got them plus two, it was a push, but that was... Wait, wait, wait. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:30:13 It gets worse than that. What is it? It started out Dallas by one and a half. Oh, yeah, right. Sure. It actually was reminiscent of the famous Jackie Smith game, the Superbowl, which started out at three and a half, went to four and a half, came back down at four and Vegas lost like no matter who bet on it. Yes. So this one, they lost all the bets on
Starting point is 00:30:37 Dallas one and a half. If you bet anything at two, it's a push. They don't care about that. And then two and a half, any Dallas bet loses. But at that point, if you're banging Seattle, basically Seattle two and a half and Dallas one and a half, both wins. Right. It's incredible. And then somehow the over hit too in a game that
Starting point is 00:30:57 no business, 25 points being scored total. Right. So I think between that and the Eagles money line hitting and also the Chargers winning as underdogs when it felt like especially by game time the Chargers were the all-time bandwagon pick yeah um my guess is Vegas didn't do well this weekend I don't think they did with those money those underdogs and I'd see the same thing happening well we'll get to it when we get to the lines. I felt like Jason Garrett really tried to lose that game. He tried his hardest.
Starting point is 00:31:30 He really did. Just couldn't come through. Attempting the 58-yard field goal. What an amazing moment that was. Couldn't have been more of a field position type game. He turns it over. Lombardi likes to point out, that's a turnover. You attempt a long field goal and miss, that's a turnover when the other team gets it.
Starting point is 00:31:48 And I just, you know, like I said with Trubisky, there should have just been more plays with Prescott's opening up where he's running. He doesn't have the bullet arm. He's throwing on third and seven guys. Guys are past the sticks, and they have to come back for his passes, and they end up short and It'll be fourth and one. So they're not managing him right at all. But it did work out, and thankfully, Janikowski went out when he did.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Well, if it's any consolation, your QB wasn't even in the top three of QBs that were used the most incorrectly this weekend. Yeah, I guess so. So there you go. I guess so. Although I will say, when the Cowboys started first down at their own three, I said, out of the eight quarterbacks,
Starting point is 00:32:28 mine is the one I trust the least in this situation. Oh, for like some sort of something bad. Yes, exactly. I have no idea what Seattle was doing. I was tweeting about it on Saturday night. I hate to do that. You heard me on Twitter thing.
Starting point is 00:32:41 But it was the only thing I really cared about last night was what the fuck Seattle was doing. It's one thing when it's like Lamar Jackson and he's 21 years old and he's never been in that spot before. And the Ravens were clearly just doing everything they could not to put him in a position to have to do too much.
Starting point is 00:32:58 And even like Trubisky, I think is in that category to some degree. Russell Wilson's like won a Superbowl. He's good. Your best chance is category to some degree. Russell Wilson's like won a Super Bowl. He's good. Your best chance is him scrambling around doing Russell Wilson things. And just over and over and over again, they're running the ball in the middle of the line. As a Cowboys fan, you must have been like over the moon.
Starting point is 00:33:17 I loved it. I loved it. First of all, he was like, I think he was like 10 of 11 in play action passes. Yeah. Okay. So they couldn't defend that. The other thing, they're defending the run. You loved Chris Carson.
Starting point is 00:33:28 I know you did. Don't lie. I did. I loved him for Daily Fantasy. I had him in FanDuel this week. He did nothing. None of those running backs did anything. I think they were like 21 for 50 or something, 53 or something.
Starting point is 00:33:38 Crazy. But the one running play that did work is when Russell Wilson does the read option. Yeah. Tucks it in. He throws it in the running back's stomach, then pulls it out and comes around the edge. That's a big gainer. That's the one I was afraid of. I was afraid of him in play action. They didn't use him right at all. And I think our boy Mays pointed out like, hey, if this is how you're going to use Russell Wilson, this is your offense, don't pay him $30 million. You can get another guy to do this.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Yeah, that was a frustrating thing because I've watched a lot of Seahawks this year. And it's almost like there's two different Seahawks teams. It's like that control the ball, just get to the fourth quarter. It's close. And our defense and Russell can win it. And then there's like the let's just unleash Russell for a quarter. And when they do that, he's really good. It's not like with Lamar Jackson and Trubisky
Starting point is 00:34:25 where you have no idea what's going to happen. That fourth and sixth throw to Baldwin is one of the greats. I mean, for Baldwin to pull that in and that throw had to be spot on. Like, everything was perfect. I thought it was mystifying. And I'm a big Chris Carson fan, but it became clear. Dallas was like, you're not running on us today. So at that point, you know, I always think,
Starting point is 00:34:45 what is the thing the other team wouldn't want you to do? And I'm pretty sure Dallas wouldn't have wanted Seattle to just spread the field and have Wilson just kind of dancing around. Now, with all that said, Janikowski gets hurt, leading to, I think, one of your five best tweets ever. What did I say? You said that Janikowski pulled his honey-baked hamstring.
Starting point is 00:35:08 He is fat. Slightly fatter than me. That's a great, that's a great fat joke. I love that. Yeah, he ended up getting the last laugh
Starting point is 00:35:16 because I had money on the sea of Dallas and they didn't cover because, and so then there's, then you see a half hour of this guy Dixon the rookie punter yeah practicing field goals on the side yeah and they're not letting him kick a field goal to a
Starting point is 00:35:32 point where and I know you had Seattle on a two-team teaser right you had him like plus eight or something yeah so when they're down 10 you probably want them to what are you what's going through your mind you want them to kick the field goal on fourth and six from the 17? Would have been a pretty short field goal, like a 34 yarder, right? I had kind of just given up on the game, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:35:51 I didn't know. I didn't, I didn't feel like, I didn't feel like they had a chance to, did I? Oh, I guess I just had the tease.
Starting point is 00:36:00 I'd give it up on the Seattle pick. I didn't think they had a chance. But yeah, yeah. The, I've never seen anything like it where they also got the two two points usually the team goes one for two in those right but then I actually thought
Starting point is 00:36:14 it was weird to me that Prescott you know after he got that big first down he almost scored and there's like right over two minutes left yeah it almost worked out. But to not score. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Or how about this? Like just take a knee, take a knee and then I don't know, try to score on third down or there's got to be
Starting point is 00:36:35 some better way to play that because how it played out was Seattle scored and ended up onside kick and I don't know. I looked at it. There were one play away
Starting point is 00:36:43 from it working perfectly. I think they did have to try. It would have been ideal if they scored on third down and not first there but I don't know. I looked at it. There were one play away from it working perfectly. I think they did have to try. It would have been ideal if they scored on third down and not first there, but I don't know if you could really play it like that. But that kid, them not going to him for the first two-point conversion, then down 10 on fourth and sixth.
Starting point is 00:36:57 You need two scores so they don't kick the field goal. They go on fourth and I think it was sixth. They score and then they go for two. This guy's still practicing kicks on the sideline. They should have told him to quit. He should have been practicing onsides. Yeah. Go practice your onside kick, something that you haven't done. It doesn't have to be a drop kick. By the way, his drop kick onside probably would have been a good field goal from 30 yards out. What were they doing? That was the worst onside kick
Starting point is 00:37:22 of all time. And they have this guy practicing field goals. So the situation, what were they doing? That was the worst onside kick of all time. And they have this guy practicing field goals. So the situation, they were not going to put him in at all. It was very strange. It was a rough night for Pete Carroll. We have a writer at the ringer, Roger Sherman, who his dream in life would have been for somebody to try a drop kick to decide an NFL playoff game. Right.
Starting point is 00:37:41 He was so excited about it. And it really did seem like it was in play there for a second when it was like fourth and six or fourth and... I think it was worse than that. I think it was like fourth and 11 or fourth and nine or something. And he's made those. Dixon does those before the games. He makes like 40-yard dropkick
Starting point is 00:37:58 field goals. I thought for sure they were going to bring him in. It would have been amazing. Well, they kept saying like Aikman and Bugg were like, well, they tried him kicking field goals during halftime and before the game. Yeah, it was not pretty.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Like, really? How bad could it have been? And why is this happening? Like, Janikowski, you know, he's not the picture of health. If he didn't pull his hamstring kicking, by the way,
Starting point is 00:38:22 which is hilarious, he could easily oversleep in a drunken stupor. Maybe have a backup plan for Janikowski either way. How about this? Why have Janikowski? The guy, it's like having me as your kicker. I know. It's like, Bill, what's wrong today?
Starting point is 00:38:36 I slept wrong. My neck hurts. That's their fucking kicker. He's an old guy who's been going out for 35 years. You trust that guy. It's like almost in fantasy when the lineups are set before the playoffs and you kind of ride or die with whoever's on your team and you have no backup for kicker or quarterback or whatever,
Starting point is 00:38:57 and then the quarterback gets hurt and you're like, oh, man, R9, asshole. I just don't know how you go in the playoffs with Jay Nakowski. He's just not being on a football team anymore. He saved them a lot of money, the Seahawks backers. They didn't win the game, but the plus two and a half was ridiculous. The silliest of all covers
Starting point is 00:39:14 I've seen. They were showing him in the sidelines. He looked like Brando in Apocalypse Now. I thought he was like Kurtz. There was like a delay in his injury too. He kicked and then he stumbled a little bit and walked and like oh boy oh this hurts it now this hurts it did look a little judge smells oh my arm i think it's broken yeah delay of pain did you get that joke well i know what you mean
Starting point is 00:39:36 what was it i the judge smells oh my arm i think it's broken remember when the ball hit some kyle doesn't understand no but i picked it up you know I get it I understand what's going on here have you seen Caddyshack yes I feel like Caddyshack should be the one over 35 year old comedy
Starting point is 00:39:51 that that that still holds up that everyone sees oh my god so can we we gotta talk about
Starting point is 00:39:58 The Sopranos really fast we'll do Guest Alliance we gotta do Our Greatest Call and all that stuff but god The Sopranos is on they're just running the marathon cause it's a 20 year anniversary
Starting point is 00:40:10 my wife comes home I told you this so pretend you didn't hear this before come home Friday night put on TV my wife puts on TV and it's like some random Sopranos episode I'm kinda like oh what's this one oh it's the one with the rap mogul and Christopher decides he wants to be a music producer and
Starting point is 00:40:29 Adriana. I knew it was first season. I ended up watching five Sopranos in a row. Nice. And I haven't really thought about that show in a serious way since the last episode, which thank God I didn't have a podcast because you were more upset about the ending of The Last Sopranos than anything. We'd still be doing that podcast. We wouldn't be done with it. Nothing has ever made you more upset than that since I've known you.
Starting point is 00:40:53 I've known you for 16 years and counting now. It was the single biggest atrocity you've ever- I'm still not good with it. A lot of people, like 40% of the people who probably didn't like it and they're almost all okay with it. Still not good with it. But, uh, God, that shows good. So now I'm thinking like, I kind of want to just bang out the whole series and maybe do a Rick Capables podcast or something. It's really like, I forgot how, I don't know why you would forget this. I just haven't thought
Starting point is 00:41:21 about it, but there's a reason people say it's the best show of all time. It's amazing. So anyway, I was like, it was such a delight not to remember what happened in any of the episodes and just to kind of almost be experiencing it. Like, I forgot. Spoiler. Tony gets shot near the end of the thing. The two hitmen try to
Starting point is 00:41:39 get him and they shoot the orange juice. Yeah, right. Man, it was something. Let me give it as big a compliment as I can right now, currently. I'm watching Ray Donovan. I have to be the last of those who have sat and watched Ray Donovan. Wow, that is amazing. I thought, I realized why I watch it.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Because it has 10% of the grit that The Sopranos has. And that's just enough to keep me interested. The Polly Walnuts, I really, really, really missed. And his relationship with Chris Moltisanti is so good. My wife always has this thing, and she said it Friday night when we were watching it. She was like, I really miss these people. These were my friends.
Starting point is 00:42:20 They're like these fucking characters on a TV show. Characters, Terrible, horrific characters. Horrific characters. Well, that was the first of the characters, the bad guys that you rooted for, right?
Starting point is 00:42:30 Oh, yeah. No, that show created, basically created the anti-hero. Yeah. Yeah. And I forgot how great Edie Falco was
Starting point is 00:42:38 in the scene when the priest, when the priest comes over, he's like, I rented a movie. And she does that whole monologue. It just eviscerates him. Oh, that was weird.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Yeah. I'm not going to be your whiff of sexual tension. God, what a great show. Let me ask you this. When you're watching it back, do you fast forward to the therapy sessions? Because that did bug me every week. That was the only thing. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:04 I'm starting from scratch. And I don't know I'm starting from scratch and I don't know what I'm going to do with it maybe I can do recapables for season based it's funny because we have 20 movie screeners for Oscar season that we should be watching
Starting point is 00:43:20 and probably 15 other shows that every one of our best friends calls us an asshole for not having seen so far. But we'd rather sit down and watch The Sopranos. Hey, listen, it's the right decision.
Starting point is 00:43:33 I will say I finally saw three identical strangers this weekend. That was awesome. It was really, really, really riveting. It was really good. I highly recommend that one. Yep. All right, Crown Royal is doing something
Starting point is 00:43:43 pretty cool this football season. They launched a responsible drinking campaign called the Water Break. It's all about encouraging people to hydrate between drinks for a better experience, whether at the game, watching at home, or in a bar. Have a great time. Enjoy some Crown. Don't be that person that ruins it for everyone. We've all seen that guy who drank too much watching the game.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Was Corolla that guy today, by the way? He was okay today. He was okay. All right. Make the right call and take a water break. Sal, who made the right call this week or not? Well, I feel bad because we just discussed it. And it is ironic that in a lot of cases, I think this guy has been that person.
Starting point is 00:44:17 But Sebastian Janikowski, good job by you pulling up limp. You didn't help your team win by sitting out, but I don't think they would have won anyway. And Seahawks were able to cover the spread with two two-point conversions, plus going for a touchdown when they should have kicked the field goal. So nice job, Seabass. He was just on the injury report as old. They didn't even have an injury.
Starting point is 00:44:40 My red call of the week goes to the Timberwolves. They dumped Tom Thibodeau today. Oh, yeah. And I was watching the Celtics play the Timberwolves the other night. And Gordon Hayward's had two good games this year, both against the Timberwolves. Because the Timberwolves don't really work hard on defense at all and just looked like a team that was adrift.
Starting point is 00:45:00 And I kind of want to see Carl Towns in the right situation. So he had the Jimmy Butler Ebola virus with him. Jimmy took the virus over to Philly, and that was infected that team. And then the coaching situation has just been, just hasn't been a fit, which I'm shocked by. I thought Tibbs was going to do great there, but maybe the direction the league has gone has just passed him by. It's so much more offense-oriented than during his Rose Bulls glory days.
Starting point is 00:45:28 But I'd like to see Towns in the right situation because I have no idea how good he is. I know he's super talented. I know he's a franchise guy, but I don't know what he is. Well, what about Tibbs? Could he end up as an assistant at Philly just to haunt Jimmy Butler? Because obviously that's not going so great. Well, the irony is that he would be an amazing lead assistant
Starting point is 00:45:48 if that's what he decides to do. But I do think he's getting paid whether or not he works. So if I were him, I would just go cool off somewhere, try to wonder what went wrong. I don't know what's going on with the Jimmy Butler thing. There's a lot of bad buzz floating around about what's going on in Philly. But anyway, that's our right call this week. Crown Royal reminds everyone this football season to take a water break
Starting point is 00:46:11 and hydrate responsibly. Speaking of responsibly, I feel like we got to be a little more responsible this week with the gambling. I make this mistake from time to time. I ignored the playoff manifesto. I took Lamar Jackson against Phil Rivers. I felt really good about it. I love the Ravens. I even did a long shot Super Bowl thing. And I made the classic mistake of not just taking a deep breath and really thinking about it. Because as soon as that game started and I realized that it was Phil
Starting point is 00:46:42 Rivers versus a rookie QB who had eight starts and I had the rookie QB. I did not feel good about it, Sal. Well, I mean, maybe there is something to that. Maybe the manifesto should just be limited to, hey, take the better quarterback, whether it's road or home in the first round. Better quarterback, more accomplished quarterback was underdog, was on the road this week. It was luck.
Starting point is 00:47:05 All right, so Seattle didn't win, but Wilson covered. Who else am I? Nick Foles, tricky Nick. But Sal, here's the problem. So that is in the manifesto, and there's two different quarterback rules. I did the manifesto. I rewrote it for a year ago on the ringer, and there's two different rules. One is like don't take a shitty quarterback.
Starting point is 00:47:24 I don't think Lamar Jackson's shitty. I think he had a bad game. And the other one is take a look at the quarterbacks again and really think about it. You're picking one of these two guys. They're probably going to decide the game. And it was just a tactical error and I have a lot of regrets.
Starting point is 00:47:39 Well, we'll bounce back. There's seven games left in the season. We could do this. I mean, the Seattle one We could do this. Yeah. I mean, the Seattle one was the luckiest. It was a push on this podcast. It was a cover for gambling purposes. But that was a complete fluke. Right. And then, you know,
Starting point is 00:47:56 let me ask you this. If the Bears get that two point and it's 17-10, do they cover? Do the Eagles score if they're down seven instead of five? Oh, interesting. I don't know. Because psychologically, the five is a little more tasty.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Because it's like, man, if we score a touchdown, we win this game. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know that the Bears would have tried any harder, though, down five or seven. But on defense. It just feels like a different kind of pressure down seven versus five. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:48:23 I don't know. Maybe. No, I knew it. Given six and a half, I knew they weren't getting that I don't know. No, I knew it. Given six and a half, I knew they weren't getting that two-point conversion up five. Just knew it. Wasn't a chance. Oh, and there's another new manifesto rule
Starting point is 00:48:32 that it's in the manifesto, but I have relatives for Jim Mora, but I didn't have it for Marty Schottenheimer and I should have because Marty Schottenheimer is still in the manifesto even though he's no longer with us. But it's a list of all these different coaches not to bet on, including Marty Schottenheimer and Jim Mora,
Starting point is 00:48:51 who I don't know if Jim Mora is with us either. But it's basically all the relatives for Jim Mora, you're not allowed to bet on them either. And I should have extended that to Schottenheimer because, god damn, it was awful betting on Brian Schottenheimer for four quarters. You were killing him. What about when it was awful betting on Brian Schottenheimer for four quarters. You were killing him. What about when it was third and 17 and he threw the design screen to the third string white tight end?
Starting point is 00:49:14 Remember that play? What was that? What did they think was going to happen on that play? I don't get it. I don't get anything. Throw long. How many defensive penalties? I feel like we see a dozen a get anything like throw long. How many defensive penalties? I feel like we see a dozen
Starting point is 00:49:25 a game. Just throw long. Give your quarterback a chance to get a defensive penalty. It's an ugly game to play, but that's winning football, I think, right there. That was the case for Flacco at halftime. Just bring in, try to get some PIs because they weren't moving the ball
Starting point is 00:49:42 anyway, right? Like Joe, you know what to do. Loft some 35- yarders up there. Yeah, throw it down field. Throw it down field. We'll get some PIs. We'll get back in this thing because that was the Flacco PI offense. All right. What is the first game
Starting point is 00:49:58 in round two? Just out of curiosity because I don't... First game, and these are really good games, I think, especially the AFC matchup. So the first game is 435 Eastern Indy at Kansas City. It's a great one. It feels like, I know Luck's only beaten Kansas City once, but it does feel like the Colts have beaten the Chiefs a bunch of times in the past. Right. But it's probably only been twice.
Starting point is 00:50:24 I think it's only two. One of them was the legendary luck comeback game. When everyone on the Chiefs got hurt, Andy Reid got involved. By the way, we forgot to mention Matt Nagy, Andy Reid disciple. Right. That's right. I mean, he really learned from the master today, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:41 Don't pay attention to that clock thing. You'll be fine. Focus on other stuff. Use your timeouts erratically. It'll work out for you. Here's the red flag for the Colts. One of the playoff manifesto rules is beware of the team that looked a little
Starting point is 00:50:58 too good the week before. You were saying this. We were watching this game in the Shakeys and our friend Trevor who's a big, big Chiefs fan, it just looked like he had a tear running down his eye in anticipation of the Colts coming to town. And you're like, oh, don't worry. This is how these games go.
Starting point is 00:51:13 But I would be, I'm not saying I'm taking the Colts here, but they're a team that the Chiefs, that defense can't get a stop. And against this team that goes up and down the field, you're going to have to get one stop. Or do you think it's just going to be a fluky cold weather? You're on the roads too loud. Andrew Luck's going to be discombobulated.
Starting point is 00:51:33 Oh, I don't think that at all. All right. I, I think they have an awesome offensive line and the chiefs have a terrible defense. So he's going to have time to throw the whole game. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:43 My question is what happened to them during the last two and a half quarters of the Texans game? Cause we were like to throw the whole game. Yeah. My question is, what happened to them during the last two and a half quarters of the Texans game? Because we were like, we thought the game was over. We're all talking. It was like half watching, but not full watching. But I don't understand why it was so hard for them to move the ball. Because their running back ended up having a big game too, Mack, which was a surprise because Houston had the number one run defense.
Starting point is 00:52:03 Yeah, that was strange. And I had even suggested they take luck out in the fourth quarter when it really didn't look like the Texans were moving the ball at all. But they kept them in and they still didn't do anything. Yeah, that's, I don't know. I don't know how much momentum you need going into these games. But I will say this about the Chiefs and all of these home teams. Like Chiefs, Rams, to a lesser extent the Saints,
Starting point is 00:52:25 and definitely the Patriots. All right, I'm not including the Week 17 games where they blew out the crap teams like the Patriots beat up the Jets, the Chiefs beat up the Raiders. When was the last time the Chiefs had a convincing home win against a good team? What would you say? Well, I'm glad are you asking me because you know the answer? I do know the answer, but you could, you could guess if you want.
Starting point is 00:52:46 Well, I remember that I'm looking it up now, but it was, it was, uh, it was the Browns, but I don't remember what week that was. Cause you know,
Starting point is 00:52:52 I think the Browns. No, I don't think no, no home home game though. Home. Oh, home game. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:52:57 Well, who was it? No, the answer is not this year. I don't think it's happened this year. They beat the Niners by 11. They beat the Jags by 16. They beat the Bengals by 35. They beat the Jags by 16. They beat the Bengals
Starting point is 00:53:05 by 35. They beat Denver by seven. I don't know. Was Denver an okay? That wasn't a convincing win. Then they beat up the Cardinals. They barely beat the Ravens a few weeks ago. They lost to the Chargers, as we know, and then they crushed the Raiders, but I haven't seen a big win against a good team in a while. Same thing with the Patriots. Same thing really with the Rams. I think there's a lot of red flags with the Chiefs. It seems like a soft one seed. I don't know if the Colts are the right team to go in there and win,
Starting point is 00:53:34 but we know we don't like their defense. The third string running back, Russell and I were talking about this the other day. I get nervous with guys who haven't been there before putting the ball on the ground. You saw it with Lamar today, you know,
Starting point is 00:53:50 like that the new guy comes in, the new guy's always trying to do way too much. And I do feel like at some point. Well, the Chiefs have a new guy too. Who's Damian Williams. Yeah, that's what I mean. Oh, I thought you meant Indianapolis. No, no, no, no. That guy had a game under his belt. The Damian Williams. Yeah, that's what I mean. Oh, I know you meant Indianapolis. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:54:06 No, that guy had a game under his belt. The Damian Williams thing, I think that's a concern. Right. Well, as it is, these bye teams, at least two of them,
Starting point is 00:54:15 I'm not going to say they lose, but they definitely start off slow. Like, having the week off is nice to get your injured players back to normal, but
Starting point is 00:54:23 it takes its toll on a couple of these teams if not three teams uh typically by the way i looked up because i wanted to the russell wilson covering on the two point because the honey baked hamstring i looked up because i remembered i had written about this about the alcoa greatest moments ever because i remember brad had that Tamer Vanover story, which he's now since told on your podcast. Right. But I remember that we'd all racked our brains
Starting point is 00:54:49 trying to think of the greatest stupid gambling moments ever. And number one was the Music City Miracle. So I was rereading what I wrote and I forgot this. Tennessee was giving five and the Miracle TD gave the Titans a 21-16 lead and there's only a few seconds left and they kicked the PAT instead of going for two. I forgot there was like a whole second Miracle part of the Miracle,
Starting point is 00:55:16 which was them just settling for the PAT to cover. Wait a minute. Did they really? You could go for two back then for sure? That's what I wrote back here and we had fact checkers. You must have been able to go for two back then, for sure? That's what I wrote back here, and we had fact checkers. So you must have been able to go for two back then. The second one, I don't even remember, but it was the impetus for this, was the Palomalo game.
Starting point is 00:55:35 So he must have had some interception or something that covered it with no time remaining on the clock. I vaguely remember it, but it was on Monday Night Football. The Adam Vinatieri two point run on Monday night when Pete Carroll was coaching the Pats, their three point favorites, controversial touchdown, and the Bills left the field in protest. So the Pats, they had Vinatieri running the two point and they won by four and they covered by a half point. There was a story on that like a year ago about a guy down on his luck guy, like a janitor.
Starting point is 00:56:09 And he needed that game to win like $37,000. Was it Brad? 12 for 12. No, no, no. No janitor. I said, no, it might've been Brad. But, uh, but anyway, you'll be happy to know that guy's still down on his luck. Oh, Jesus.
Starting point is 00:56:24 And then there was another one, the Ronnie Harmon game, which I finally remember because it was 1990, the first year I started gambling. Brown's hosting a wildcard game against Buffalo, three and a half point favorites. Buffalo cuts it to four with four minutes left. Norwood misses the extra point. Buffalo's D gets the ball back.
Starting point is 00:56:44 Jim Kelly drives down the field, and Ronnie Harmon drops the game-winning touchdown. Wow. On the Browns cover. So, needless to say, the Russell Wilson games have been happening. But these should all be on a website. There was another one. Yeah, they should be.
Starting point is 00:56:58 We should be able to look at the best 75 stupid covers of all time. Should all be on there. There was one where the Packers were favored by four, and they were up six, and it was like eight seconds left. I think it was Favre taking a snap from his three. Yeah. And he took a safety, and they cut it to four. It was a push.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Yeah, yeah, I remember that. Actually, the ball might have been like at the 10 or something. He ran all the way back and took a safety. Well, that was another famous cover from the 80s. The Pats were playing the Broncos in the playoffs and I think we were
Starting point is 00:57:27 getting four and we were down three and Tony Eason, one of the original Boston Antichrists, got sacked in the end zone for a safety and Denver got the cover.
Starting point is 00:57:39 I'll never forget him. He kind of turtled on the sack. Anyone we know ever on the right side of these? I'd certainly imagine. I was last night with the freaking Seahawks.
Starting point is 00:57:47 Oh, with the Seahawks. You were, yeah. It was amazing. Yeah. What a pleasurable experience. Mm-hmm. All right. So Colts Chiefs, I have six for the Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:57:59 Yeah. We all nailed this. I had six. You had six. And Vegas has six. Okay. Seems fair. Six seemed good. I think it opened you had six, and Vegas has six. Okay. Seems fair. Six seems right.
Starting point is 00:58:06 I think it opened at five, five and a half, and went up. Six seems right. And they're dying for us to tease it with another game that's coming up in a second. Yeah, so I don't know. It's a pretty nice spot for the Colts, man. They're going against a bad defense. They can move the ball. They can run the ball. They can run the ball.
Starting point is 00:58:25 They can control the clock. They can control the cock. Sorry to step on Big Dick Nick. I didn't talk about him yet. That's coming up Sunday. And they might have a coaching advantage because it's Andy Reid in the playoffs, so who the fuck knows. Can I make a case for the Chiefs
Starting point is 00:58:42 in that I feel they're one of the more disrespected one seeds we've had in this decade? Well, this is a Kevin Clark point. Yeah. Kevin Clark basically said since the Flacco playoffs that year, we've gone chalk. Right.
Starting point is 00:58:58 We've had the high seeds that have ended up in the Super Bowl year after year after year. So you're right. Maybe they are being disrespected. I mean, just public sentiment out there. It's like a lot of people are on the call. That's might be called all the Chiefs are looking to blow. They play no defense. If Andy
Starting point is 00:59:13 Reed's ever going to step it up, get out of the first round or get out of your first playoff game, right? It sounds like we need to talk to Andrew the Giant. Oh, yeah, I'm sorry. Well, Andrew the Giant luck. You travel to Arrowhead Stadium, 435 Saturday. You have a massive, massive undertaking in your upcoming matchup
Starting point is 00:59:35 against the one-seat Kansas City Chiefs. How do you feel? Oh, you know, we got to take it one game at a time. You can't look ahead. You can't get a time. You can't look ahead. You can't get too high. You can't get too low. This is postseason football. And their quarterback over there has had a great, great season.
Starting point is 00:59:55 And we're just going to try to match what they have and take it quarter by quarter and see what we have. All right. Thank you. That was Andrew, the giant luck. You can catch his documentary, which is the number one watched documentary featuring a quarterback slash
Starting point is 01:00:12 monster of all time on HBO. There you go. That's great. What's our second game on Saturday night? Well, this is my game. Dallas at the Rams. Eight 15 Saturday night. Tough one. 8-15, Saturday night.
Starting point is 01:00:26 Tough one. The question has to be asked. Am I going? This game's in Los Angeles. Last time I checked, you live in Los Angeles. I got to tell you, everybody's asking me. And I feel like I have to go because everybody's asking me. But the truth is, it's so much easier for me to walk away from a beatdown if I have my TV on.
Starting point is 01:00:45 And then just to walk to the car and be in traffic for two hours, that's just an extra slap in the face. Well, the problem is if it's a tough loss and you're walking out and some Rams fan, I think they're out there, do the, hey, Sal, nice game. You're just going to want to fight the guy. Exactly. Yeah, I'm going to want to have a fight a fist fight for sure but what do you do yeah and that's the other thing though what do you think over under percentage I would say 55.5%
Starting point is 01:01:15 Cowboys fans you go over under oh well you're throwing in the secondary market yeah shit I might have to call Nathan Hubbard later to find out. I'm going to, I'm going to text him as we're talking.
Starting point is 01:01:28 Okay. I would say, Oh, you're giving me over under 55%. 55. Cowboys fans. I'm going over. I think it's like 62,
Starting point is 01:01:42 63%. Really? Okay. I almost want to do this as, as Mike and the dog. I think it's like 62, 63%. Really? Okay. I almost want to do this as Mike and the dog. If you go 65, like I was there two years ago at the preseason game. Obviously, it's a preseason game. It's different. Lots of Cowboys fans, maybe 70, 75%.
Starting point is 01:01:57 But preseason probably didn't have as much of a fan base as they did back then in the Rams. So maybe it tightens up a little. I'm emailing Nathan Hubbard, who's our ticket expert, as well as an unpaid ringer intern. Right. How many Cowboys fans percentage at the Rams game Sunday? Nathan also famously voted against me in the House Eats 3. How dare he?
Starting point is 01:02:21 Oh, he did? I forgot about that. So how nervous are you on a scale of one to ten for this Rams game? Well, this is the matchup I wanted versus the Saints. I definitely wanted to go to the Rams. I think they're softer. I think Dallas could push them around a little bit defensively. I also
Starting point is 01:02:36 am sticking to that thing where the Rams really haven't played a great smackdown home game in a while. I know they beat the Niners in week 17, but this is not bad, but Dak has got to be better, and the play calling has got to be better, and offensively they have to shine a little more.
Starting point is 01:02:51 Now, the only thing I'll say is, Wade Phillips, this could be a statement game for Wade Phillips against his old team defensively. If he's ever going to step it up, you would think this would be the time. You left out Goff. Yeah. Well, he's one of the soft guys.
Starting point is 01:03:08 I think we could kind of have our way with a little. You have a good front seven, and you're going to be able to get to him. And he might throw you one. I like the way your defense played in the Seattle game. Now, granted, you knew every play they were running before they ran the play. So maybe that helped. Maybe the confidence of knowing exactly what the other team was going to do was a factor.
Starting point is 01:03:29 I don't know. I'm hoping this is one of the buy teams that gets off to a slow start and Dallas could be winning 10-0, and then the Rams could try to chip away at that lead the whole game. Well, how healthy is Gurley, do we think? I don't know. They're keeping that a secret. I mean, he'll play for sure, I think.
Starting point is 01:03:45 God, this is so winnable. He're keeping that a secret. I mean, he'll play for sure, I think. God, this is so winnable. He might not get a full load of carries there. How about the fact that Dallas hosting the NFC title game against Philadelphia is actually in play? The NFC is 2-0. The NFC had no business having two playoff teams. Every team in the league in the division was 3-5. We went into week 9 or something like that. We made fun of the NFC East all year now that there's a puncher's chance that's our NFC title game. For this one, I have
Starting point is 01:04:14 the Rams. I put this right in the Vegas zone, South. Rams by 5. Yeah, I went 6. It's up to 7. Whoa. Opened at 7. Jesus. Why? It's up to seven. Whoa. Opened at seven. Jesus. Why? It's a lot.
Starting point is 01:04:28 That's high considering Vegas got beat up with all the underdogs this week. I mean, I guess it's the same thing with the Eagles where the Eagles was six and it just seemed high. And yet I took the Bears anyway because I didn't think the Eagles were going to score. I feel like this line is just too high. I think you can win the game. All right. Thank you. That's good enough for me.
Starting point is 01:04:49 I don't need to go watch it now. No problem grabbing the seven in that one. Cool. I could save $450 on a ticket. That's great. What's our clapper confidence level right now? It's not great. It's never great.
Starting point is 01:05:05 And the bigger the game, the less it goes. They didn't show him clapping at all, I don't think, Saturday night. So maybe switching things up. I mean,
Starting point is 01:05:13 don't go for any 58-yard field goals. I don't care if the guy hasn't missed. It's a rookie and it's playoffs. Enough of this stuff. So Nathan said
Starting point is 01:05:21 he thinks 40% for Cowboys fans but with the forecasted rain that could bump to 60% oh really there's also the fans that are Cowboys fans
Starting point is 01:05:35 that won't speak up about it you know well what about couldn't you get Cousin Jimmy to get you a suite those suites aren't that good are they aren't they weird I don't know can you get cousin Jimmy to get you a suite? Those suites aren't that good, are they? Aren't they weird?
Starting point is 01:05:47 I don't know. Can you get in the Jerry Jones suite? I think you should be in the suite. I think you should be next to Jerry botching high fives with him. Why not? That would be the highlight of my life. I really would. It would surpass everything.
Starting point is 01:05:59 You and Jerry after a touchdown where you're going for a high five, but you intentionally hit him in the face because you know he'll think it was an accident. I don't know. Botox flies all over the suite. Yeah. God, that would be great. We can maybe work that out. I actually thought they didn't show him enough on Saturday night.
Starting point is 01:06:17 Yeah, those contractually don't they have to show him like 12 and a half times? That's what I thought. Maybe, I don't know, maybe he didn't want to be on TV. It was strange. All of a sudden, shy. So Nathan also reports there are tons, he put in caps, tons of seats for sale on the Cowboy side and none on the Ram side yet. Really?
Starting point is 01:06:38 Yeah. There are sides? I didn't know there were sides. All right. Apparently. All right, good. There you go. So 40% seems fair.
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Starting point is 01:07:55 All right, moving to Sunday. Who's the first Sunday game? What's your confidence level? Chargers at Patriots. It's not great. You know I don't have a lot of confidence in this Pats team. I would say the worst thing for you to come out of that Chargers game, whatever, I thought they looked good and everything else. First of all, the seven sacks. What are you going to do with Bosa and Ingram? And plays that aren't sacks.
Starting point is 01:08:21 That Derwin James is just all over the place making tackles. But more than that, they have a field goal kicker, Bill. This guy, Michael Badgley, they finally have a field goal kicker. They didn't have to go to South Korea to get him either. It really should be a bigger story. Yeah. I don't know what the equivalent of, if we went through the other sports
Starting point is 01:08:41 where the team's all-time worst Achilles heel for years and years has somehow just been miraculously solved. But here we go. It'd be like the baseball team that never has the closer. And then all of a sudden they have a lights out closer. Nathan reports 4,300 seats on sale. Wow. He thinks that will go up. And he thinks if the weather's bad, people will just be selling left and right. All right. So there you go.
Starting point is 01:09:06 That's our weather report for that. My team, this is a football podcast and we've gone for over an hour now, right Kyle? Yes, we have. Kyle seems to put out. What do you have? Dude, I'm cool. What do you mean? I was waiting to get to this part.
Starting point is 01:09:20 I'm excited. Kyle seems to got to hop in and step now. We did not mention how awesome Melvin Ingram was in that Ravens game. That was one of the most dominating defensive performances. I know we're going to get all week where the talking hair guys on TV are going to be
Starting point is 01:09:38 like, you know, we talk about Khalil Mack, but you know who's good? You know who's a dominant defensive player? It's Melvin Ingram. We're going to have to do that. Melvin Gordon isn't even the best Melvin on the Chargers. Why don't we talk more about Melvin Ingram? We're just getting berated by whoever's on our television.
Starting point is 01:09:56 I think that's going to happen a lot this week, but he was amazing in that game. They literally couldn't handle him. He had two sacks and probably three near sacks. It was all over the place. So that's going to not, that doesn't make me feel great. They literally couldn't handle him. They had two sacks and probably three near sacks. It was all over the place. Yep. So that doesn't make me feel great. And the fact that they have multiple blue chippers on their D
Starting point is 01:10:11 doesn't make me feel great. They have wide receivers who can make plays in traffic. That doesn't make me feel great. A QB I forgot. We beat him in 07 during the 18-0 season. I don't call it the 18-1 season. I call it the 18-0 season. We were 18-0, Kyle. I know. I know. That was the 18-0 season. I don't call it the 18-1 season. I call it the 18-0 season. We were 18-0, Kyle.
Starting point is 01:10:26 I know. I know. That was the 18-0 Patriots. And Rivers played in the AFC title game with a torn ACL, which I never thought he got his due credit for. That's right. Little revenge factor for him, possibly. He looked good, man.
Starting point is 01:10:44 He's throwing balls. He's running for first downs. It just seems, you know, when you have eight and a half kids, nothing really phases you. That's the difference between 2007 and now, I think. The Pats have kind of owned the Chargers. Just throwing that out there,
Starting point is 01:10:59 I don't know what that's going to mean. I thought that would mean something in the Steelers game the other week, a couple weeks ago, and it didn't. But, you know. Nice rest. I'm sure they had a chance to look at the tape, get a nice look at what the Chargers are doing. Chargers traveling
Starting point is 01:11:14 for the third straight week. I'm trying to build your confidence here. I put this in the Vegas zone, dude. I have Patriots by four and a half. I went a little lower. I said four and right now it's four. I don't know if that goes up. Are you going to beat me this week? I am.
Starting point is 01:11:27 I think I'm going to get the next one too. Blood diamond. Doesn't matter. I lost a ton on the bears. I don't feel like a winner. And the, it's not like Dallas treated you that well. God.
Starting point is 01:11:42 Yeah. So this is the early game on Sunday. Yeah. So the night game early game on Sunday. Yeah. So the night game or the later afternoon game. Should we call this a Super Dave Super Bowl game? Because I have Super Dave, our friend Super Dave Osborne's Memorial kicks off right when this game kicks off. It was totally at New Orleans. I have an even worse than that.
Starting point is 01:12:01 Not only can I tragically not go to the Super Dave thing, but my daughter has a soccer tournament next weekend. And the Sunday game to get into the finals, hopefully of that game is head to head with the Patriots. Wait a minute. What do you mean? Oh, the Sunday early game. I'm saying my daughter's third soccer game of this tournament is head to head with the Patriots.
Starting point is 01:12:22 And this is a situation I've been in before, and I know how to handle it. You do? Okay. I have to go to the soccer game. I have to. Right. Because if I don't, karmically, I'm going to swing the game, and the Pats are going to lose. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:12:38 Because I was a bad father. And I'm not going to do that. I'm going to be a good father, and I'm going to bank the karma points for my beloved New England Patriots and also they have really good Wi-Fi and cellular service now and I'll be able to watch the game on my phone. God help young Zoe if they lose
Starting point is 01:12:54 and the Patriots lose and she will not have a meal for another three and a half weeks. Well, it's a 1030 game and if she lets me down during that game and then the Patriots are behind, I can tell you what she's eating for lunch. So it's going to be gum.
Starting point is 01:13:07 That's it. It's going to be gum in the car and it might not even be the gum. That's in the thing. It might be the one that fell between the seats. Well, at least let her choose between a bubblicious or big rat. Yeah. I don't even know if that's happening.
Starting point is 01:13:19 So yeah, I have to go to the tournament. I can't. Yeah. Go. I, that I karmically, that has to be the way it plays, but I don't like that. The pats are going head to head. I knew it was going to happen too the tournament. I can't. Yeah, go. Karmically, that has to be the way it plays, but I don't like that the Pats are going head
Starting point is 01:13:27 to head. I knew it was going to happen too. Exactly. That was the rule. So then the last game is? Philly at New Orleans. Yeah, I beat you here too, Bill. I said seven.
Starting point is 01:13:38 What did you say? Oh, I have a- Six and a half? I had six and a half for the Saints, yeah. Eight. This is the highest one. It's eight. Doesn't make a lot of sense.
Starting point is 01:13:51 So the two home teams you're most confident in as we do this Sunday night are the Saints and who? Wow. Just the Saints? I got to say, I might not be confident in any of the home teams. It's unbelievable. I've never felt this way in this round. This is usually the round we make money.
Starting point is 01:14:12 We have a two-team teaser, locked, solid, and it loses anyway. But at least we feel good about it, right? We're not going to tease your stupid team, are we? No, I don't know. I don't know what we're doing here. I will say, Dak has won me over a couple times over the last couple weeks. He does have those big in the moment scrambles. He's kind of a gamer.
Starting point is 01:14:34 I like his fist pumps after a big play I enjoy. Yeah. And I thought he made a couple. He's good. He finally connected with Gallup after overthrowing him all year long. That was a nice shot. Yeah, that was exciting. Well, the 50th time's the charm, they always say.
Starting point is 01:14:49 Right. I agree with what you've been saying all year is just use his legs a little bit more. Yeah. Design rollouts and little RPO and all that stuff. That's all. He does have nice instincts when he's kind of roaming around. Right. And it's not like he's the Alan Hecker guy.
Starting point is 01:15:07 It was terrible. That's going to be, you know, he wasn't our number one receiver, but that was, that was really bad. I don't know if you were able to look at it a second time, but. I saw it and it seems like we're, this has been a dislocated ankle frenzy the last two years. I feel like we've had more dislocated ankles in the last 15 months than we had in my entire life.
Starting point is 01:15:27 Well, luckily, Aaron Andrews came on and told us he is not available for the rest of the game. That was a big surprise. I was waiting for her report. You know, I was kind of watching how everybody was reacting to it. And it seemed like an inordinate amount of people were coming over. And especially the Cowboys were really upset. Like you're always going to be upset when that happened,
Starting point is 01:15:49 but it really seemed like they were going out of their way to be upset. And then I read all the stories after, I didn't realize he was like one of the leaders of the team. Sure. You're great. Great clubhouse guy. Jason Garrett was holding his hand throughout the whole thing, which is extra difficult for him because he,
Starting point is 01:16:04 you know, it makes it so hard to clap. Right. Holding a man's hand. He was holding his hand throughout the whole thing, which is extra difficult for him because it makes it so hard to clap. Right. He was clapping his thigh. He was clapping his thigh. Yeah, because if that's Antonio Brown, I think some people come by and maybe quick fist tap, but I'm not sure the Steelers are going to be.
Starting point is 01:16:18 That's Antonio Brown. They play with him on the field. Dragging him off. Please leave. Yeah, so I don't know what to make of this weekend. I got to say, it wouldn't shock me if all four of the underdogs made the next round. Yeah, well, they all covered this round. So yeah, you could expect,
Starting point is 01:16:37 I mean, there are no gimmies this week. I'll say that. I could pretend to be excited about one, but there are really no gimmies. I think the Chargers are the best road team, unfortunately, for you. Let's do Panacorner really quick. Oh, all right.
Starting point is 01:16:51 I'm trying to think. Oh, so, okay. So the family's coming back from Hawaii. We're with the Corollas. We're with our friend Daniel Kelson, his family. Wait, hold on. Before you keep going on this, we should mention, you went to Hawaii with your family on a family vacation. You recorded two podcasts and did at least two episodes of
Starting point is 01:17:09 Lock It In from some seedy TV station in Maui. No TV station. It was like in a strip mall. It was like two Samoan guys. One guy miked me and the other worked the cameras on Maui. So was your wife, would you call her unhappy, disgusted? What's the word? There's no wife anymore. She's gone. She was just shaking her head a lot. But, you know, I don't know. Like, her plan was to get loaded by the pool, and she still got to do that.
Starting point is 01:17:37 I mean, she could tell me, like, we're not doing this again next year. I was like, well, you got what you wanted. What? So I worked hard. And I had to put together the Cody's, which is another story. Why didn't you do the whole thing where you just yell at her? Who do you think pays for this vacation? These
Starting point is 01:17:51 podcasts. That's what's paying for this. I think that's implied. I try to get there and then well, so I had another thing with her. This is good. So we go to we're going through the security line from Hawaii to backi to uh back to lax yeah and we all tsa pre-check and by the way that is the greatest deal in america right now for 60
Starting point is 01:18:13 bucks you can get your whole family tsa pre-checked you get through the line you get fast you know faster than everybody you don't have to take your shoes off your computer out anything get it if you don't it takes 20 minutes to sign up. Yeah. So I go through and we're going through and the TSA pre-check woman says, she looks at my 13-year-old and says, how old is he? Because anyone over 12 has to have separate ID for pre-check. And unfortunately, your son is six foot one.
Starting point is 01:18:44 Right. Yeah. He's very, very tall for a 13 year old even. But so, okay. If someone asks you and you're in line and someone says, well, now how old is this kid? Because if you're over 12, you have to have separate ID. And if you don't, you have to go back with the regular people. What would you say? Well, my kids are conditioned to lie under all circumstances. You have to, have to lie. You have to lie.
Starting point is 01:19:05 You have to lie. Yeah. You can't say like my wife says, like, well, we didn't have trouble with this the first time when he came through. Oh no, you don't challenge the teacher. So she says that. And I basically like in a sitcom-y way, had my hand over her mouth saying, but it doesn't matter because he's 12 anyway.
Starting point is 01:19:21 So the woman looks at us and is like whatever go through that's all they have to hear right they're not gonna make a big stink unless someone screams in the ear like uh no no he's 13 so what do we do yeah then then there's a problem then you have to go to the shitty line right um but no so i thwart that but i now know that we have one more uh tsa pre-check person to go to yeah i get everyone on board like, listen, you are 12 years old. I don't care. I'm not going to that long line. Just tell them you're 12 when we get to the next person 40 feet from now.
Starting point is 01:19:52 Okay. Everyone on board. Yep. Good, good, good. Everyone's on board. Woman says, okay, so is he 12 or 13? How old is he? Because, you know, if you're over 12, you have to go on a separate line.
Starting point is 01:20:05 You can't go TSA pre-check. And Archie says, I'm 12. And then my youngest, my five-year-old says, you are not 12. You're 13. And now I grab the family. I put my arm around and I just shove everyone forward past the line. It was really, it was like Argo. Like we had to get on that plane because I wasn't going back in that line.
Starting point is 01:20:26 But yeah, so that kid got all his Christmas presents taken away. He sounds like a chip off the old block. Yeah, exactly. Except he wasn't screwing around. He just wanted to be right. We flew to Boston for Christmas. And for some reason, my wife didn't have TSA on hers, on her ticket,
Starting point is 01:20:47 even though she has it. Right. But I had it and my daughter had it weirdly. So I was like, we're good. You only need two. But I knew we weren't good.
Starting point is 01:20:54 I knew she was going to have to go through. And so we went through, they wouldn't let her in, but they let the two kids go with me. And it was hilarious. She was so mad. And then we had clear too, because clear has been kind enough to sponsor the podcast and clear is the best by the way.
Starting point is 01:21:17 So we're in, in like five seconds. And then we're just sitting there watching her in the long line and then like going through the thing and you have to take your shoes off and your belt. And she was so mad at us. And my asshole son is just pointing and laughing and taunting her. These are the stories that we used to tell about TSA before Trump shut down the entire government. And now there's no TSA at all. Now you can just walk on a plane with a bomb. I think they're just doing it for free now. I think they can't quit, but they have to do it.
Starting point is 01:21:40 So yeah, they're not getting paid. But they could go on strike though, right? I think they could. But they don't, thankfully. I'm starting to wonder if he's a good president. He's really working into the role. They had this
Starting point is 01:21:55 article about the parks. There's nobody working in parks anymore and all the Port-au-Jones now are just completely overflowed and there's trash everywhere. But he doesn't care. It's future when two when biff took over right it's just how can this get worse what what else what else what are the terrible thing has to happen i almost wish he was a democrat so we could complain about him because he would be just as bad um incredible though there's's going to be no TSA.
Starting point is 01:22:25 Somebody's just going to be able to go on a plane with whatever they want. My parent corner, my son is still playing Fortnite. We made a deal because Mattel was kind enough because they heard this podcast. They were the parent corner about his Christmas list. They sent some figures for some wrestling figures
Starting point is 01:22:46 for NXT and all these NXT figures he likes. So he had the box and I was like, I'm not going to give you the box. We're going to write out a contract of all the things you're not allowed to do. Oh, wow. And it was like, you can't play Fortnite on mobile anymore. You can't swear.
Starting point is 01:23:05 If you swear, you lose your phone. That was a big one. He's already lost his phone once this weekend already. You got to play baseball on the tee in the backyard for 20 minutes. He basically signed his life away just to get these six stupid wrestling figures. Did you go over the actual swear words? He knows what the swear words are. He knows what they are?
Starting point is 01:23:22 All right. But now he's doing this new thing where he plays video games and he goes, shiitake mushrooms. And like these words that sound like they're going to be a swear and they're not. So anyway, so now he's playing the video game, the Fortnite, only on the PlayStation. But he's doing this new thing. He gets really mad when he gets killed. And he's convinced that all these people are hacking and cheating.
Starting point is 01:23:47 If he gets killed in some way that doesn't add up, he's just assumed the guy had some cheat code or some... I wonder where he gets that from. Yeah, I know. It sounds a little familiar. Or some way, some aim device that you're not aimbot, it's called. So he's been in this thing, he's reporting the people that kill him, which you can do. You can
Starting point is 01:24:03 report. You can report on them that they're either harassing or doing something legal or like two people are playing together you're not supposed to team up and he's just reporting people left and right so now we now this has been another thing and now he's not allowed to play fortnight anymore because he's reporting he's like a narc he's like Fortnite dark. It's report night for date dark starring my 11 year old son who still plays with wrestling
Starting point is 01:24:29 figures. So yeah there we go. That's great. Yeah. That's all I got for you. So that's good.
Starting point is 01:24:37 But you didn't bet on the Golden Globes tonight. I know I didn't. I steered clear of it. I don't know. I saw Sandra always hosting and she won an
Starting point is 01:24:44 award. So that seemed a little suspicious. It was so unlike you. I know. I get't. I steered clear of it. I don't know. I saw Sandra Oh was hosting and she won an award, so that seemed a little suspicious. It was so unlike you. I know. I got to get back in the saddle. We'll hit the Oscars. I haven't seen all these movies. I saw Vice and a couple of screeners, but nothing great so far. Can we bet on Zion going first in the draft or are those odds just
Starting point is 01:24:59 through the roof? I haven't seen. That's definitely happening, right? Yeah. Didn't we see minus 400 the last time? A couple weeks ago? Zion did a 360 dunk over the weekend just kind of casually
Starting point is 01:25:10 on a turnover. And it's... Zion's reached a point now that if your team gets the first pick and doesn't take him, it might be a riot. Right.
Starting point is 01:25:21 I don't know how you pass him. He's got too much steam now. He does all these fancy moves and he's going to hurt himself. It really does seem him he's got too much steam now he does all these fancy moves and he's gonna hurt himself it really does seem like he's indestructible though he just
Starting point is 01:25:29 he reminds me of LeBron where he's just like such a physical specimen or Giannis these people that you just watch you're like oh my god that guy's
Starting point is 01:25:36 never getting hurt I hope I didn't just jinx him I'm not gonna I'm not gonna I'm not gonna I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
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Starting point is 01:25:42 I'm not gonna I'm not gonna I'm not gonna I'm not gonna I'm not gonna I'm not gonna I'm knocking on things. What do you have to plug, Sal? Lock it in, 430 to 530 Eastern, Monday through Friday. I'm on that show.
Starting point is 01:25:46 I'm not very good at picking games, but you can watch. We'll be previewing the college football championship. I have Bama. I'm sticking with Bama. Also, against all odds, this Wednesday night, I think I'm going to have Manny Pacquiao on, believe it or not. He has a fight against Adrian Broner. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:04 I'm going to fill him out for that. I know he hasn't been too reliable lately, but I'm going to talk to him. Anything I should ask him? I've never really trusted his boxing after the time he invited Jimmy to walk out to the ring with him, like on short notice.
Starting point is 01:26:17 You didn't like that? No, no. He added Jimmy to his entourage. He didn't seem very focused. All right, well, I'm going to make sure he doesn't have any Jimmys in his entourage. Could have seemed a little more focused, I guess is my point.
Starting point is 01:26:29 Did we talk about the Cody's since you... I think we were on our agent James Babydoll Dixon won the character of the year. I put together a 100-page document highlighting all the character, all the moves, all the things that characters in my life have done,
Starting point is 01:26:48 all their accomplishments. And James Babydoll Dixon won again. Do you feel – Three-time champ. He's a three-time champ. Did you feel like this was a signature year for him or like he just was just a typical MVP season for him? It was kind of typical.
Starting point is 01:27:01 I mean, he litters everywhere. He falls asleep. He comes to see our tapings and falls asleep. I feel like that's a relatively new wrinkle in his arsenal. The falling asleep? Just the falling asleep in public when he's there to support his clients while also insisting that he has to be there to support his clients. And then he just litters and falls asleep. Yeah, it's easier if he doesn't show up, right? Instead of like his fourth day of a trip to LA, he still claims he's on East Coast time and falls asleep at everything. I like that he seems a little more worried about his big picture of finances this year because of some of the clients.
Starting point is 01:27:34 Maybe not as high profile anymore. Right. We should talk about that because that didn't seem to add up, that number he threw our way. It really didn't. It seems like he has two very expensive late night hosts still on television. Yeah. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 01:27:48 I know. Seems like those commissions would be pretty good. He was good. He built the new house in Jupiter, Florida. He showed every Uber driver struggling to make 35 grand a year. When they're stuck in traffic, he's showing them pictures of the house and everything. Showing women his abs. Saying, hey, not bad for double nickelss he's referring to as being 55 years old falling asleep everywhere what am i missing well
Starting point is 01:28:12 he's still without real warning at all stays at jimmy's house who has two small kids right chain smokes around their small children yeah even though anything he's out here for is like an award show that he could get, you know, he gets his hotel comp and everything, but was Tony Romo excited to get some points. He doesn't really get it. I don't think,
Starting point is 01:28:34 but he felt like he, it was, he was offended. He predicted it. It's one of the things he predicted. Yeah. Well, there you go.
Starting point is 01:28:42 Uh, all right, so we will, uh, let's, Oh, by the way, listen to against all odds this week too. You'll be breaking down with the trif he predicted. Yeah. Well, there you go. All right, Sal. We will listen. Oh, by the way, listen to Against All Odds this week, too. You'll be breaking down with the trifecta. That's right.
Starting point is 01:28:49 Everything that's coming up. I'm breaking down these four games further and the national championship and Manny Pacquiao. Yeah. And then we'll be back next Sunday. All right, Sal. Good job by you. Good job by you. All right.
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