The Bill Simmons Podcast - The Feel-Good Underdog Patriots (???), a Rams Bonanza, and Week 8 Lines With Cousin Sal | The Bill Simmons Podcast (Ep. 431)

Episode Date: October 22, 2018

HBO and The Ringer's Bill Simmons is joined by Cousin Sal to discuss the moneyline murder that was the Chiefs-Bengals showdown, Cowboys heartbreak, and Patriots-Bears before guessing the NFL lines for... Week 8. They finish up with some World Series talk and Parent Corner. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:36 last couple of days. Be ready for that. Be ready for the cuz. He's coming up. He's heartbroken about the Cowboys. What are the odds what year is this first pearl gym All right, on the line right now, his fantasy team is 0-7. His real team blew yet another game at the tail end as his coach clapped sadly on the sidelines. He hates football. He hates life. It's because it's out. Woo!
Starting point is 00:02:19 Hold on, you can't forget. You can't forget the fact that I had the over in that Chiefs game, and I needed three points in 12 minutes and couldn't get it. Needed one point, actually. Oh, wow. Because the Chiefs kind of turtled, right, with the 45-10 lead? They turtled. They had fourth and four from the 15, and instead of kicking a field goal
Starting point is 00:02:37 because that would be rubbing it in, they went for it and didn't kneel down. They went for it and got stopped. And then Cincinnati brought their backup unit in. So that was good. I love how rubbing it in is bad, but patronizing the other team is somehow a lot more flatter and better. It makes people feel better. We're killing you so badly. We're going to deviate from what we do all the time. And to just, because we were taking pity on you. Right. I don't know. I don't know where to begin. So, but let's begin here. We made money, right?
Starting point is 00:03:07 Yeah, we made money. That was good. I almost swept the day. I didn't do picks on Friday because I just have no feel for the season anymore, but over the course of the weekend, rallied back. Why did I rally back, Sal? Because you and I looked at each other about four weeks ago and we said, this happens maybe once a decade. Let's parlay and tease the Rams with everything every single week until we get burned. And it has been our own version of a Ponzi scheme. It's like the billionaire boys club, that movie that they'll do every few years about the Ponzi scheme kids. We are Ponzi scheming the living shit out of the Rams.
Starting point is 00:03:43 And every week it pays off. God bless you, Los Angeles Rams. This is great, right? They're great. You know, throw the chiefs in there too. They have not not covered this year yet. Right. Yep. They're seven and oh, but yeah, we had the Rams and Rams Colts with everything else. Right. Moneyline Colts moneyline. I wasn't going to go near the Colts. And then you texted me,
Starting point is 00:04:03 this could be our last chance ever to bet against Eric Anderson. And I was like, oh, what a great way to seduce me. I was so excited. On top of that, we caught the Pats. What were they? They were, were they up seven? I think it was right after the punt return. No, no, it was halftime.
Starting point is 00:04:21 No, we bet them at halftime. They were favorite. We bet them at halftime with the Vikings because we knew they weren't going to lose to the Jets, and that was a winner too. Sometimes it works out. No, you did that one without me. I did the Pats and the Rams.
Starting point is 00:04:33 You jumped out. You did a separate. Oh, right, okay. But the Pats were up four, and they were minus 300 on the money line, and we teased it. We also did something. All the years we've been betting,
Starting point is 00:04:44 I can never remember us doing this before. And this is a kudos to the Rams. Once again, we were going to bet, I wanted to bet the Chiefs. The Chiefs were like minus seven tonight, right? So the money line was, I don't know, minus two six. And I was like, man, it would be nice to just be able to throw them
Starting point is 00:05:01 with the Rams. Oh, the Rams are playing next week. We'll just do that. I didn't even know who they were playing, what the line was, looked it up. They were playing the Packers. to just be able to throw them with the Rams. Oh, the Rams are playing next week. We'll just do that. I didn't even know who they were playing, what the line was. Looked it up. They were playing the Packers.
Starting point is 00:05:11 We hadn't done guess the lines yet. I sent you my guess for Packers-Rams, which I guessed seven and a half. What did you guess, seven? I guessed seven, and it opened at nine. So the money line was a little higher than we would have liked. Right, so I won that one. So I'm already up one,
Starting point is 00:05:25 nothing heading against the lines later. But so we T we parlayed the chiefs with the Rams and a six and a half point tees. It was the first time I ever remember betting next week's games before Sunday night's game, because I was just so excited to get one more crack at the Rams before Vegas is going to figure this out. I think they're just going to artificially inflate
Starting point is 00:05:46 the Rams soon. This is probably our last chance, don't you think? Yeah, I think so. And they've already figured out the over-unders because the unders, I think, were 3-9 today with their 12 games. Yeah. They're working it out. They're not going to be left in the lurch, that's for sure.
Starting point is 00:06:01 This is the year that not just in football, but in basketball as well. Because basketball, the pace is all screwed up this year. And I thought it was because there was this new offensive rebounding rule that if you get an offensive rebound, the shot clock starts at 14 seconds. But did a little research and was told that that was pretty negligible for the most part. But whatever's happening, games are going over.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Like the Pelicans are playing with this crazy pace this year, much like the Chiefs. They're just like, boom, boom, boom, putting up points. But you've seen all over the place, things hitting overs. And now in football, I don't even know, what are they doing in college football? Like when they added the overtime and it screwed up the overs, how did they remedy that? How did they fix it? I think they just added like a half a point or a point,
Starting point is 00:06:52 knowing that one out of every 10 or 12 games goes to overtime. So what are they doing in the NFL? We can't go too crazy. So what are they doing with the overs this season in the NFL? Because I don't do overs, so I don't know what the market's been. The NFL, it's evened out, but more overs had hit leading
Starting point is 00:07:11 into this week. But like I said, this 3-9 or whatever it was will bring it back down to normal. I mean, they made that 57. We're seeing some in the 60s. Even the Saints were, why would you bet under with the Saints? And that went under today, 24-23, that was 49.
Starting point is 00:07:30 So some of the darling teams to bet over aren't getting there. Rams were over 52 when it was 39-10. Well, they're pretty careful with it now. This is all distracting us from my number one story of the weekend, which I have not talked to you about. I think the Patriots are the lovable under story of the weekend which I have not talked to you about. I think the Patriots are the lovable underdog of the 2018 season.
Starting point is 00:07:51 How could that be? We have a 41-year-old QB. He's 41, Sal. He's seven years younger than I am. He's 41 years old. Our all-pro tight end is basically on his last legs. It's just about over at this point, it feels like,
Starting point is 00:08:06 and he didn't play today. The star receivers are former seventh-rounder Julian Edelman. Chris Hogan basically picked off, just signed from another team, is never anybody special. And then Josh Gordon, who's like the all-time reclamation project. He's not even running full speed. I don't know whether he's winded from years of whatever he was doing or whatever, but he had a breakaway catch today. He wasn't even going full speed. We are on, I think our third running back, but we had both first round picks this year.
Starting point is 00:08:42 It looks like they're out for the year. I think Sonny Michel, that did not look good. I'm assuming he's out for the year. They already lost Isaiah Wynn. They lost Duke Dawson, who they picked 56, who's supposed to be the slot receiver this year. And they lost Bentley, who is a middle linebacker. All four of their picks in this year's draft are gone. They lost the Spygate pick.
Starting point is 00:09:04 They have guys on the defense that had cornerbacks today. J.C. Jackson. This guy's involved in multiple plays. I didn't even know who he was three weeks ago. Sal, this is incredible. It's emotional. It reminds me of Hoosiers. Why aren't people talking about the Pats
Starting point is 00:09:22 as one of the lovable underdogs of our lifetime? Sorry, I left to trim my sideburns. Were you saying something there? I took a couple minutes off there. They're not lovable. They're never going to be lovable. Josh Gordon's in there, so they're lovable.
Starting point is 00:09:38 That guy's lovable. Belichick's lovable. You've got to find a different adjective because I don't think that's going to stick. Kyle, what was the name of the running back we had today Barney? Barnwell? Barnsdore or something Barn was in the name
Starting point is 00:09:50 Barnum or something Barnum? P.T. Barnum Barner? No it was Barner Barner maybe Alright 28 year old lifelong practice squad running back who apparently was on the Eagles for the last three years just cranking out
Starting point is 00:10:07 four or five yard runs the second half today why? because when you're on an underdog everybody steps up Sal you saw the movie Miracle right? not the underdog no you saw Miracle right? remember when in Miracle the first hour
Starting point is 00:10:23 like that team the ragtag, a bunch of underdogs and Herb Brooks, and they're playing the Russians. They get killed in the exhibition game, but they just banded together. They didn't care about the obstacles. They didn't care about the odds. They didn't care about the injuries. It was like, who was in that locker room? Those were their brothers and their teammates.
Starting point is 00:10:42 And that's what I'm feeling with this Patriots team. They're now 5-2, and they have five games left in the AFC East, including two against the Bills, two against the Jets, with their geriatric QB as no backup. He has no weapons at all. We've basically thrown away the entire 2018 draft. We don't spend money on free agents. Both of our
Starting point is 00:11:05 lead assistant coaches left. Sam, I'm welling up. I'm honestly emotional. I can't believe this. Well, I'm glad you're emotional. I really,
Starting point is 00:11:13 really hope you're not jinxing your team right now. I really, really hope that's not the case. There's no jinxing at all. I'm marveling at what a remarkable underdog story this has been.
Starting point is 00:11:21 All right. Can we get the Red Sox talk out of the way too just so we could proceed with the real football sports talk? The Red Sox are not an underdog story this has been. All right. Can we get the Red Sox talk out of the way too, just so we could proceed with the real football sports talk? The Red Sox are not an underdog. They have the highest payroll in Major League Baseball. Oh, okay. The Patriots have basically thrown away the NFL draft,
Starting point is 00:11:35 and they're still going to go 13-3. And why, Sal? Because of chemistry. Because of heart. Because of determination. Because of moxie. That's what's going on here. You don't think of the Pats as underdogs.
Starting point is 00:11:48 I know. That was a big win. That was a good win. A lot of the smart people gambling took the Bears plus two or plus two and a half. They sure did. It never really made sense. It never made sense at all. And, you know, like once you got that kick return for a touchdown,
Starting point is 00:12:02 once you got that punt, what was it, that block punt for a touchdown? Oh, I lost the discourse. Stupid way, yeah. Cordero Patterson, you know, another guy. He's on the scrap heap. The Vikings just said, we don't want you anymore. He said, no, he had nowhere to play. He comes to this ragtag Cinderella story,
Starting point is 00:12:19 group of underdogs, and all of a sudden he's returning a kick for a touchdown. I hated that game. I hated that game. I hated it. Mitch Trubisky overthrows like 20 receivers, like 20 passes in a row. And then the Hail Mary, he underthrows by three yards.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Otherwise, they're going to overtime. That was fun to watch. The Patriots, I think Bortles and Trubisky probably threw for 800 yards combined and ran for 180 yards against us. They had by far their two best games. I think Trubisky had probably the greatest meaningless stats game I've ever seen
Starting point is 00:12:52 in my life. As you said, I'm going to say he sailed the ball over 12 guys. Would you say over or under if I said 12 and you had to guess the exact number, would you go over or under 12? I think that's about right. I think it was about three or quarter. He overthrew.
Starting point is 00:13:07 The guys were open. Yeah. It's like Trey Burton had a good game, and Trey Burton also could have had another 150 yards because he was open on every play. I don't know what they were doing. They didn't send Tariq Cohen on screen passes or wheel routes until the second half.
Starting point is 00:13:22 I don't know what they were waiting for. They didn't run Jordan Howard up the middle. And Trubisky bailed them out time and time again by being able to scramble because nobody on this lovable ragtag Patriots underdog team can, none of the linebackers can run a 40-yard dash in under 5.0. So every time Trubisky needed, it didn't matter, 15 yards, he could go scramble and get it.
Starting point is 00:13:44 And yet it just wasn't enough. yards, he could go scramble and get it, and yet it just wasn't enough. Yeah, he just never should have thrown. I wonder what it would have been if he didn't throw at all. How the score would have been, but you're not going to beat the Patriots if they have a punt return touchdown or block punt and a kickoff return touchdown. Wasn't he, Kyle,
Starting point is 00:13:59 wasn't he 10 for 25 at one point? Yeah, it was a laughable stat. Yeah, that was something. We just laughable stat. Yeah. That was something we just started laughing. He finished 26 for 50 for 333 yards, but like 58 of them came on that Hail Mary at the end. He threw two picks, but I don't know. Did you watch the whole game?
Starting point is 00:14:20 I, the Pats dropped at least three picks. We're just right to them. He really could have had five. I don't know. It was weird. It never felt like the Pats were in danger. That's why we bet on them at halftime. Well, now you go to the Bills on Monday night and it's a whole
Starting point is 00:14:38 different story. Oh, no. It's the same story. One by third. Well, Barner will be in there. we'll see what he has What was Barner's first name? Ken John Ken John Barner
Starting point is 00:14:52 He could be our new Jonas Gray The Sonny Michelle thing was a bummer because he was really starting to look good and a 300 pound nose tackle fell on him and made his leg go in a direction that it wasn't supposed to go. So that was great. You have four receivers with seven targets, and that's just it.
Starting point is 00:15:13 That's all you need from Brady, right? You don't need anything more than that. Yeah, I mean, you could argue that not having Gronk in there actually opened things up a little bit more. Because they're just afraid to run certain routes with him at this point. having Gronk in there actually opened things up a little bit more. They're just afraid to run certain routes with him at this point. He's basically very occasionally
Starting point is 00:15:31 would go straight down the middle, but most of the time, it's little short stuff and stuff that he's not going to get hit. Let's talk about your team. The Dallas Cowboys, which an emotional comeback. They're down 10 there's like
Starting point is 00:15:47 under 3 minutes left there was 40 different ways Jason Garrett was going to screw this up from like the video game standpoint of you know
Starting point is 00:15:55 they got under the 2 minutes they're inside the 10 I thought for sure they were going to do the thing where they called a timeout to stop the clock or all the dumb things the team can do
Starting point is 00:16:03 that doesn't know what they're doing Romo picking apart Dak the whole drive that doesn't know what they're doing. Romo picking apart Dak the whole drive. I don't know if you noticed, but... No. Oh, yeah. Oh, man. Oh, that was rough.
Starting point is 00:16:14 He was... No, no. The whole game, he was talking about the... No, he was... Well, maybe he was a little bit. Who are the people who replaced Jimmy and Adam on the man show? Was Rogan...
Starting point is 00:16:23 It was Doug Stanhope and Joe Rogan. It was like watching that version of the man show with Jimmy the following year as he picked apart the sketches. I think he basically said he just needs to be a little more accurate, which everyone's saying that. That's not a big deal. He's pointing out how he should have lucked off the safety. I felt like it was critical.
Starting point is 00:16:42 It was awkward. It made me feel awkward. Well, everything was weird. Everything was awkward because the Cowboys somehow had three timeouts with two minutes left in the game. I mean, that never happened. It was unbelievable. I thought there was a mistake. I was going to call CBS and say, hey, you have a mistake on your graphic. Jason Garrett has all three timeouts. And yet, you know, like you said, it fell apart anyway because it was a different kind of bad clock management. They played very conservative down the stretch, setting up for that field goal.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Well, wait, hold on. Go backwards. So they score the TD miraculously. That was the first upset, that they somehow scored in the right amount of time. They kicked off. They get stops on the first two downs. Third down, Alex Smith's scramble, like a moron, he runs out of bounds. So now you have a timeout. Let's go back one second.
Starting point is 00:17:28 I would have gone side kick there. Oh, interesting. Down three with three timeouts. You need to stop anyway, right? And I know the percentage is about 10 or 15%, but onside kick there. I was okay with it because I didn't feel like Washington could move the ball on you.
Starting point is 00:17:43 All right. But then onside kick it anyway. I don't know. All right, go ahead. Alex Smith was terrible because he stayed in, but he ran out of bounds. He could have slid. He runs out of bounds. So now you get the ball back. Dak makes a big play.
Starting point is 00:17:58 Completion of the 37, 52 seconds left. You still have one timeout. Dak strolls to the line like it's the second quarter of the Hall of Fame game yeah 20 seconds runs off
Starting point is 00:18:11 they don't use the timeout which I sure okay don't use the timeout um just let's
Starting point is 00:18:18 let's get rid of 20 seconds for no reason that's so stupid I know goes back to pass throws it over the middle to Beasley for 6 yards for no reason my That's so stupid, I know. Goes back to pass, throws it over the middle to Beasley for six yards, for no reason.
Starting point is 00:18:28 My whole thing is like, Rodgers, Brady, whoever, like Rivers, what would they do in this situation? I promise they're not throwing the six yarder over the middle. Beasley goes down, everybody kind of stops, all of a sudden there's 12 seconds left,
Starting point is 00:18:41 but they still have the timeout. What do they do? They hike the ball frantically as soon as the whistle blows. He actually could have gotten them off sides. Yeah, could have clocked it. It was only second down. Hand it off immediately to L.A. He goes three yards.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Then let the clock run down to three seconds. Then they get the weird penalty, which I'm still not sure how that's a penalty. And suddenly the guy's kicking a 52-yarder that's being snapped at the 35, which is two yards further than they were 50 seconds before. And then he hits the post because, of course, he did. And that's it. And that game probably cost you the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Well, and that LP led us there. He's been snapping for 14 years and he claims he does and he does do it the same way every time he just tilts the ball at a weird angle so it looks like he's moving it but whatever whether he does or not he's never called for it and then they call like i don't know what they were thinking to call it and then of course the the kick just hits the upright would have been good otherwise and that's going to be the story it's not going to be how jason garrett mismanaged the time or how Dak Prescott was off to such a slow start. I mean, 22 for 35 for 273,
Starting point is 00:19:51 and almost all of it was garbage time. Those are not good numbers. And their offensive woes on the road are just, it's insurmountable, I think. It was the same issue I had with the Browns. I shouldn't be able to guess on my couch what play an NFL team is about to run. Right? The Browns, it was like they just handed off to Nick Chubb on first down every single time.
Starting point is 00:20:13 And then it was second and nine. And then Baker would go back to pass. They would blitz him. He would either eat the ball or he'd throw it away. And then it was third and nine, third and 14. Dallas was the same thing. You just kind of knew what they were going to do. The only time they're unpredictable
Starting point is 00:20:26 is when they're 10 points down with three minutes left. And then Prescott has to like freelance. It makes you wonder why not just play that way the whole time? But somehow the Redskins are four and two. So explain that to me. How are the Redskins four and two? They have a game and a half lead in the NFC East already.
Starting point is 00:20:44 I don't know how they do it. And I don't know, is this the Adrian Peterson we see every week How are the Redskins 4-2? They have a game-and-a-half lead in the NFC East already. I don't know how they do it. And I don't know, is this the Adrian Peterson we see every week where he hovers around 100 yards? Because if it is, they are a decent team, and they're going to win nine or maybe even, God forbid, 10 games in the NFC East. Well, strange goings-on there. Plus, they're well-positioned for the future
Starting point is 00:21:02 with Alex Smith and Adrian Peterson. I mean, that takes you well into the 2020s. I have a question for you. Yeah. Can you find six playoff teams in the NFC? I'll spot you some. Alright?
Starting point is 00:21:19 Okay, I can't pick an NFC East team. I'm going to give you the Rams. Vikings. And I'm going to give you the Rams. Vikings. And I'm going to give you the Saints. And I'll even give you the Vikings if you want. So there's three. Can you find three other playoff teams in the NFC? Well, I can't pick the NFC East.
Starting point is 00:21:36 I still can't pick the NFC East or the NFC South. Someone's coming from the NFC East and not necessarily from the NFC South because New Orleans is probably going to win that division. No, I was saying AFC South or NFC East and not necessarily from the NFC South because New Orleans is probably going to win that division. No, I was saying AFC South or NFC East, I can't pick. In fact, let me sidetrack
Starting point is 00:21:51 for a second. Yeah. If I have this bet, this future, like, will every division winner win at least eight and a half games?
Starting point is 00:21:58 Yeah, you're screwed. Who would you be more nervous about? The AFC South winner or the NFC East winner? I would say the South because they said during something I was watching late this afternoon
Starting point is 00:22:10 that Houston was 4-3. Yeah. And I immediately grabbed my iPad and went to the standings because I just couldn't believe it. And then I found out they had a four-game winning streak. Four in a row. All I do is watch football every Sunday and then prepare for this pod and the Friday pod.
Starting point is 00:22:26 I follow what's going on. I was the last person who realized that Houston won four straight. That is the worst four-game winning streak maybe ever. Their quarterback... Because it seems like they just lost to the Patriots and it seems like they just lost to the Giants at home. I don't know how they're beating up on these other teams.
Starting point is 00:22:42 I guess they're winning their division games. I don't trust them. Their quarterback is so banged up they wouldn't allow him to fly on the team playing because he's got a bruised lung and some other stuff. So he had to drive for 12 hours to the game. That's a true story.
Starting point is 00:22:58 And for what? He had 139 yards passing. 139. So the NFC, you figure somebody wins the NFC, so there's one. Minnesota Vikings. I'd put the Panthers. I'd give the Panthers one of those spots. The Panthers have fallen behind now, I think, three different times by double digits second half
Starting point is 00:23:20 where they had to rally back just to kind of, you know, make a competitive late. It's not like they're kicking ass, I guess is my point. No, that's a good win, though. No, today was a great win. But I feel like, didn't you feel like the Eagles lost that game more than Carolina won that? Like, when you're up 17-0 at home, that's embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:23:43 You still think their defense is solid there. That's weird to score 21 that late in the game. I would say the NFC East team and the second wild card are very hard to pick right now. Could it be... Here are the candidates.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Can we all agree there's not going to be two NFC East playoff teams? I'm starting to think it's from the north, the second team. So Packers, Detroit, Chicago, I have no idea. I'm going to say at gunpoint I might pick Chicago because I don't think they should have lost that Miami game and they should be four and two. Carolina maybe.
Starting point is 00:24:19 I guess we can't cross off Seattle yet, amazingly. No, they still have two or three games against Arizona and San Francisco? Yeah. And they already have three wins. I think we could see an eight or a nine win team in the NFC. Yeah, I didn't think it was possible.
Starting point is 00:24:37 I thought that six seed was going to get 10 or 11 wins. Packers are tough because they have this buy and then they play at the Rams and at New England. I mean, had they lost to San Francisco last Monday, that might have been their season. I was equally impressed that Carolina fought back. I always get scared when teams get in a habit of falling behind
Starting point is 00:24:58 and then coming back. Would be the only thing I would watch out for with them. Hey, let's talk about our friends from Crown Royal. They're doing something pretty cool this football season. They launched a responsible drinking program called the Water Break. It's all about encouraging people to hydrate between drinks for a better experience, whether at the game, watching at home, or in a bar, or if you're Adam Carolla.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Have a great time. Enjoy some Crown. Just don't be that person that ruins it for everyone. We've all seen that guy who drank too much watching the game, make the right call and take a water break. So Sal, who made the right call this week? You know, we get on kickers and we get on coaches all the time. And then, uh, but I'm, I'm, I'm ready to admit when I'm wrong. And I was wrong when I was calling their cutter, every name in the book for strutting Chandler,
Starting point is 00:25:52 Catanzaro on the field for a 59 period to be 60 yard field goal. After minutes before missing a 40 yard field goal that would have won it in regulation. And I'm thinking, this is insane. The Browns are going to get the ball at midfield. They're going to be 20 yards away from a field goal. Why are they trying to 59-yarder? And what did he do?
Starting point is 00:26:10 Nailed it right down the middle with five, six yards to spare. So I give Dirk Cutter and Chandler Canzero my water break duel of the week. Is that what we want to call it? Yeah. That sounds fine. That field goal hurt my feelings because I really like the Browns.
Starting point is 00:26:30 I root for them every week, and I feel like I'm rooting for a car in a race that has some sort of flat tire or something. Oh, yeah. It's like Fast and Furious, but Vin Diesel's car only has three tires instead of four. And Hugh Jackson is the flat tire in this scenario. I almost wonder if that's why they brought
Starting point is 00:26:52 the kicker out in that situation. Like, yeah, this is probably, percentage wise, this is not a good move, but hey, we're playing the Browns and Hugh Jackson. This is how they lose. And it really paid off. The guy has two wins. Two wins in two and a half years. That'd be pretty cool if they factored that in,
Starting point is 00:27:08 just Hugh Jackson's bad luck. On the chart. My right call this week. So my son had a baseball doubleheader today, early in the morning, 8 o'clock. Set the alarm for like 6.40, quick shower. Woke him up. He got dressed.
Starting point is 00:27:23 He's great. He gets dressed in three minutes. Drive him to the game. And football great. He gets dressed in three minutes. Driving to the game and football was on because the London game was on. My red call of the week is whoever thought of the London game. I love the London game. We talk about it every year. I wish there was a London game every Sunday.
Starting point is 00:27:38 I like, especially in the West Coast, I like waking up and football's already on. I think it's fantastic. I wish there was more. So that leads me to this email that I got from Aaron Fox reader named Aaron Fox
Starting point is 00:27:55 isn't it a no brainer to have Oakland move to London for 2019 so they have no place to play next year, right? Oh, I see. They were thinking about playing in maybe San Diego, playing like this lost stupid year in Oakland, like this year in limbo or playing in UNLV stadium.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Why not just move operations to London for a year? We'd get eight, eight Raiders home games. Wow. I'm in. That's pretty good. Could they just move to London and not play football? Could we just be rid of them? Like, altogether?
Starting point is 00:28:30 And they just never come back? Yeah. I guess they could do that. I'll find out. I didn't think about it that... Write them back. Write Aaron Fox back. Let me do more research. Anyway, that's the right call. Crown Royal reminds everyone this football season to take a water break and hydrate responsibly.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Boy, that Dan Sanborn has to be happy with that. Yeah, he loves that. We're killing it. He should send us some Crown Royal in the mail and a thank you. Speaking of killing it, your fantasy team is now 0-7. There's only six weeks left in the season for you. Speaking of killing it, your fantasy team is now 0-7. There's only six weeks left in the season for you. I can never, ever remember anyone going 0-13 in any fantasy league I've been in. What's funny is you can check out the total points scored and points against.
Starting point is 00:29:19 And your point, you've actually put up points this year. You've either had bad luck or I don't know what's going on, but I'm starting to smell it. 0-7, like you're not that far away. Can you do this? I lost to Jon Hamm's team, the Hanson team, Jon Hamm and Trevor. Well, it gets worse than that. The best part of this is I was up 32 to nothing.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Yeah. With Denver's defense. Oh, yeah. 32-0. You had 32 points for Denver. Yeah. It gets Oh, yeah. 32-0. You had 32 points for Denver. Yeah. It gets worse, though. I think it even gets worse than that
Starting point is 00:29:48 because he started Joe Flacco this week against you. Yeah. It's almost like an automatic loss when you have Joe Flacco as your quarterback, and yet he put up 22 points, and it worked out great, and he's beating you handily. You're losing 101 to 67.
Starting point is 00:30:08 Only six weeks left. You have Matt Ryan, Zeke Elliott, Mark Ingram, Julian Edelman, Robbie Anderson, Didi Westbrook. No, hold on, hold on. I have Ryan. Granted, these guys never seem to play together. I was going to get to the guys. Ryan, Elliott, Ingram, Edelman, Devante Adams, Juju Smith-Schuster,
Starting point is 00:30:27 and your beloved Gronk. Right. What did I do? Where did I screw up there? Deion Lewis. You have T.J. Yeldon. Whatever. Those six names I named,
Starting point is 00:30:37 that's criminal that I have no wins. I want to be the greatest team to go 0-13. I think I could do it. You know who doesn't make excuses? New England Patriots Belichick right now could be like I had my draft, everyone's gone I need to figure out how to cheat
Starting point is 00:30:56 I have to change everyone's lineup I have to do it the Patriots way well we had somebody cheat in our league Jamie Agin and Tall John traded for Todd Gurley to do it the Patriots way. Well, we had somebody cheat in our league. Jamie Agin and Tall John traded for Todd Gurley. They gave up. Sonny Michel, who now looks like
Starting point is 00:31:11 he's out for the season. Marshawn Lynch, who I think got hurt as soon as the trade got called in. And David Johnson, who died a year and a half ago. And that's what they had
Starting point is 00:31:22 to give up for Todd Gurley, who is going to break 30 touchdowns this year. And it seems like they actually want him to get the record. Todd Gurley is minus 400 to score every Sunday. And that's as good as betting the Rams every week. Unbelievable. To win.
Starting point is 00:31:37 We should jump on that. They have a chance to have a guy with 30 touchdowns. Mm-hmm. Have they covered every week? No, they didn't cover against them. They didn't cover one of those, right? They just won by three. Oh, the tight,
Starting point is 00:31:53 they got backdoor covered, right? Broncos, right? Yeah. Last week. They've covered every tease, obviously, because they haven't lost yet. What a run. They're my gambling MVPs. They're good. They don't lost yet. What a run. They're my gambling MVPs. They're good.
Starting point is 00:32:09 They don't get tripped up at all. They really don't. Like, Goff threw 24 times today. Gurley ran 15 times. And somehow they smoked San Francisco. It was a 39-10. Yeah, it could have been worse. And then the other thing we should talk about.
Starting point is 00:32:26 We talked enough about Hugh Jackson versus Dirk Cutter? I really enjoyed it. I love watching the Browns. They do things I've never seen before. I have full confidence that they're going to make the wrong decision in almost every situation. It's really incredible to watch. Every game is close. If you want to watch a team take the sack at the worst possible time
Starting point is 00:32:49 to knock them out of field goal range, that's your team. It's just, it's really amazing. Somebody should be editing their entire season into like a one-hour documentary that we could then show to prospective coaches on things not to do. Almost like when you're getting your driver's license and they show that car accident documentary. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:08 Just all the terrible things that can happen when you drink and drive. That should be Hugh Jackson in the Browns. Like all the terrible things you can do when you're coaching a football team. Don't do this. Don't do this. Right. They park a car that looks like an accordion in front of your school to teach you not to drink and drive.
Starting point is 00:33:23 Right. Yeah, that kind of thing. Yeah, that would be... Well, I have Hugh Jackson and Dirk Cutter as first coach to get fired. I was like, oh, it's got to be one of these two. Oh, wow. Before O'Brien was in the mix,
Starting point is 00:33:33 and now O'Brien's winning the division. But I'm starting to think that nobody's going to get fired. Is anyone going to get fired this year? Your coach obviously isn't getting fired. It's week eight already. No, he'll never go. He must have a video on his cell phone that's like the single most incriminating video
Starting point is 00:33:50 anyone's ever had on his cell phone. Yeah, I can't imagine what it is that we don't already know about Jerry Jones, but love to see it. It's crazy. Yeah, the Browns. The thing is, even if you fired Hugh Jackson, you're going to replace him with Todd Haley or Greg Williams?
Starting point is 00:34:05 That would almost be worse. It's not like those guys are lighting it up. Don't you want to send a message for anybody who has two wins in two and a half years? Did you hear what I just said? Two wins in two and a half years? It's so insane. They had some stat.
Starting point is 00:34:23 The Browns fall to 2-10-1 in games within a three-point margin under Hugh Jackson since 2016. That's the worst win percentage, 192, of any team in the NFL in that time. 2-10-1
Starting point is 00:34:39 within a three-point margin. That was my reaction as well. I thought it was going to be like minus 3, 19, and 2 or something like that. But somehow he won two three-point games? I don't remember that. I guess they beat the Bill. I don't know. Was he the coach then?
Starting point is 00:34:56 I don't know what the hell was going on with this team. I don't know. I mean, he almost had a reprieve because there was some really bad coaching. You talked about that London game? Yeah. Some bad. And. Some bad, and I feel bad for a rebel because I don't mind going for it there for the two point conversion.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Cause it looked like the chargers defense was gassed. Yeah. But, uh, I don't like that play call at all. You gotta, you gotta give Mariotta an option to run it himself, especially after missing the first one,
Starting point is 00:35:20 which came back on a penalty. You know, do we see this situation come up from time to time, and people always attack it in a vacuum. Because this is what happened. The first time when the Pats went for it on fourth and two in like 2008 or 2009 against the Colts on their own 28, and they didn't get it. And it started that whole advanced metrics thing.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Remember, they turned it over. The Colts scored. They lost the game. And people are like, that's actually the right move. They had a better chance. And it's like, yeah, that's fine. But they ran a shitty play. You've got to remove the
Starting point is 00:35:53 stats out of this if you're going to run this little out pass over Kevin Fox's shoulder with a linebacker right on him. That was a stupid play. It's hard to convert that. And I felt the same way about today. I'm all for going linebacker right on him. That was a stupid play. It's hard to convert that. I felt the same way about today. I'm all for going for the two-pointer to win the game, but not if my QB is Marcus Mariota and not if I'm Tennessee who
Starting point is 00:36:16 had 13 points up until two seconds before that play. I just didn't have confidence that they were going to get two yards. I just thought the Chargers defense was done. The more inept coach was Anthony Lynn for not calling timeouts. Tennessee has no timeouts. There's a minute 40 left, and they let Tennessee drain the clock. I didn't know they were going to go for two, but worse comes to worst, it's a tie, and you want to give Rivers a minute 40 to come down
Starting point is 00:36:43 and kick the field goal the other way. But no, Anthony Lynn let it go all the way down, and he was rewarded for bad coaching. I actually think the Chargers are good in spite of Anthony Lynn. There's only two losses to the Rams and Chiefs, right? And they're 5-2, and they were missing Melvin Gordon, and they're missing Bosa who comes back week nine. I think they're going to make some noise there.
Starting point is 00:37:03 I also think they're good. And I think Phil Rivers, if Mahomes wasn't the all-time prodigy we've ever had at the QB position, I think Rivers would be in the MVP discussion. Yeah. He's connecting on deep balls this year, which has been hit or miss with him
Starting point is 00:37:22 over the last few years. There's some really good, like I wouldn't know who to, you have Drew Brees, who's, you know, he's at 78% completion rate. He had 73 today.
Starting point is 00:37:32 So he gave the Ravens a little bit of a break. You have him, you have Gurley, who we talked about. It's going to be right around 30 touchdowns. And you have Mahomes, who everyone's talking about all year long. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:37:42 I don't remember a race this good in a while. Three man race. Don't rule a race this good in a while. Three-man race. Don't rule out Barner in the past. Because he's finally getting his chance at age 28. Barner and Chandler Canzaro. They're in there. Can't rule out Barner. Hey, let's talk about FanDuel.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Football season is well underway. And some of you out there have major regrets about your season-long fantasy teams. In fact, we're talking to one right now. The Cubs. He's 0-7. What are you in your other league? I don't even want to say. I'm 1-6. It's the worst
Starting point is 00:38:20 ever for me. It's really bad. At least you don't spend July and August doing mock drafts on ESPN with complete strangers for seven straight weekends. Look, you should go right into Daily Fantasy. Over at FanDuel, you get the excitement of researching and building your team each week, regardless of the outcome. FanDuel has never been more fun or easy to play.
Starting point is 00:38:38 I've been playing the Gridiron Pick'em Contest every week and getting killed. It's a free contest. All you need to do is pick winners, no spreads. 10K split amongst the top pickers. You can do single entry contests. You can do things
Starting point is 00:38:52 like I did where you have Nick Chubb and you have Latavius Murray and you have Adam Thielen every week. Adam Thielen is a permanent entry in my DFS team. How could he not? He's a ton of money though, right? They've adjusted him to-
Starting point is 00:39:06 It doesn't matter. You got to have him. They throw to him 15 times a game. I've tried other DFS sites and if you're not a fantasy expert, FanDuel, clearly the place to play plus new users get a $5 bonus when they make their first deposit.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Come play with me. FanDuel.com slash BS. Let's do a little guest of mine. How much would my Fanduel team, my actual fantasy team, Ryan, Elliot,
Starting point is 00:39:29 Ingram, Edelman, Adams, Schuster, and Gronk, what would that be? Like $25,000 over the limit there? Yeah, you should probably put your real fantasy team
Starting point is 00:39:39 into Fanduel to feel better about it. Just to see. Yeah, because it won't be legal because the salaries will be over. I think that would be a good move. Okay, and that's where I Just to see. Yeah, because it won't be legal because the salaries will be over. I think that would be a good move. Okay, and that's where I'll start cheating. Yeah, that'll be my illegality right there.
Starting point is 00:39:51 I forgot to... Do you want to wait until we get to the Jags to talk about Blake Bortles? Let's wait. Whatever you want to do. I love talking about it. Let's go to the week eight lines. Wow.
Starting point is 00:40:06 Week eight. By the way, a few people said that I won last week and I shit myself I'm counting it as a win because I would do it for you too so we're 3-3 and 1 going into week 8 I need this
Starting point is 00:40:23 Simmons come on and you say the Patriots cheat. Oh, my God. Cheated on your behalf. Oh, my God. All right. Four buys this week. Atlanta, Dallas, Chargers, and Tennessee.
Starting point is 00:40:36 Yeah, you know, I'm going to miss the Chargers. I think they've been one of the most enjoyable DirecTV teams. Thursday night. I'll be back. I'll be back. Thursday night. They'll be back. They'll be back. Thursday night. The red hot
Starting point is 00:40:48 bruised lung Houston Texans. They are home. They're red hot. Their quarterback can't fly in a plane but somehow they've won four straight.
Starting point is 00:40:57 They're playing Miami who had the heist. The heist was playing again. We watched games today with Kyle's friend, Demond, who's a huge Dolphins fan. And he actually made the case. Kyle heard it, so Kyle can back me up. Made the case for Osweiler over Tannehill.
Starting point is 00:41:19 It's not hard. It was incredible. He's like, here's why we're better off with Osweiler. To hear anyone say the words, dot, dot, dot, better off with Osweiler, it was flat out incredible. It's not that incredible. He would have me convinced in like 40 seconds. I don't even know.
Starting point is 00:41:38 We're talking about Brock Osweiler. All right. You try spending seven years with Tannehill. See how you feel, I think. I don't know. Exactly. It's been seven years. I can't believe that.
Starting point is 00:41:45 The other thing that was funny was he was talking about how he wants to buy a Dolphins jersey, but he's afraid to get any of the guys they have now because he's not sure if any of them are going to be on the team. So he's asking Kyle and I, like, do you think Kenny Stills is going to be in the Dolphins next year? Because I really like Kenny Stills. I think we wanted to get a custom one. Yeah, he was going to get a custom.
Starting point is 00:42:04 And I was like, just get a throwback. Like, throwback guys can't get traded. I was like wanted to get a custom one. Yeah, that is going to be a custom. And I was like, just get a throwback. Like, throwback guys can't get traded. I was like, just get Mark Duper. This is going to hurt your feelings, Sal.
Starting point is 00:42:12 He says, I don't know who that is. Oh, no. That's how old we are, Sal. He had no idea who Mark Duper was. Lifelong Dolphins fan.
Starting point is 00:42:20 But he's only like 25. I know. That's what I said. Duper and Clayton. I have Houston favored by four at home against the Dolphins fan, but he's only like 25. I know, that's what I said. Duper and Clayton. I have Houston favored by four at home against the Dolphins. Tell them to get Frank Gore. Maybe Frank Gore will enter the Hall of Fame
Starting point is 00:42:31 as a Dolphin somehow. Ten more years. Niners. You had minus four? Yeah. I have four and a half and it's seven. Oh no! That's a mistake. The fact that both these teams are four and three
Starting point is 00:42:47 is a mistake. Yeah, it's not great. Well, is Tannehill just gone? What happened to him? He's not going to come back? No one's buying his jersey. Let me ask you this.
Starting point is 00:43:01 We dance around this a lot. We talk about when teams go down, when quarterbacks go down a certain amount of points, you've lost all confidence in them. Right. So like, well,
Starting point is 00:43:11 maybe our listeners can figure out a name for this. Like, uh, like I would put like Brady and let's take the second quarter. Like Brady's confidence number is 17. I would say when they get behind 17, the second quarter, you start thinking, oh, maybe Brady can't take them back.
Starting point is 00:43:31 What would you say, like, Trubisky's is and Osweiler's? Osweiler's, I think any bad quarterback, it's probably seven. You get nervous. I think with Bortles, it's three. Bortles is three. So Bortles is the lowest. If they don't score first you feel like he can't come back okay
Starting point is 00:43:48 but when he has the lead he's like a different guy but for some reason if he's playing from behind it's over well I guess we'll get to them but they have three well I guess
Starting point is 00:43:56 we're getting them right now right Jacksonville you're doing the Sunday the London game I think Derek Anderson is zero he's zero yeah cause two hours
Starting point is 00:44:05 before the game, I felt like it was over and he couldn't bring them back. When Derek Anderson is up 10 points, you're in the world of shit. Derek Anderson's warming up, and I feel like he can't bring them back. We need to do, we should have our power rating based on this. We should
Starting point is 00:44:22 script this out. So who's the highest? Mahomes? Mahomes, he could be down 24. I feel like he'd come back. Nah, still your guy. I think it's still your guy. My guy in the ragtag underdog New England Patriots? Yeah, that dude. But I'd say Rodgers, too, is there.
Starting point is 00:44:38 Even before Breeze. Can you name our tight end today, Sal? It wasn't Aaron Hernandez. Oh, Jesus. I don't know. I don't know anymore. What the hell just happened? I'm sorry. God. I really screwed up.
Starting point is 00:44:56 My Lord. We didn't have a tight end today, right? God, we didn't play a tight end today, right? It was probably Dwayne Allen's probably in there running around, right? Barely. I think they just spread out with receivers. The truth is it wasn't a very memorable win for me. Once Barner was in there, they just wanted to spread it out. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:45:12 You definitely, no tight end caught a pass. Actually, you didn't throw to a tight end. Jay Devlin was the fullback. You had Dorsett, Michelle, Edelman, White, Hogan, and Gordon. That was it. Once Barner got out there, it's like a great artist. You just let him paint. Just give him a canvas.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Give him the feel to paint. Sunday marquee, the Rams. God bless these dudes. I think this is the marquee game, but it's not just because of football, Sal. You have a Rams-Packers game starting, I think, an hour before the World Series. Oh. Or two hours? No, it'll start at one.
Starting point is 00:45:53 Oh, so I guess four hours. World Series will start at four or five Pacific time? Game five. That'll be like a 520 Pacific time. 520? All right. Yeah. So Rams, Packers, and then you also have World Series game five. Are you going to go to that game?
Starting point is 00:46:13 You'll go. There's also an LA Kings game. And there's a Clippers game. There's four professional sporting events. Wow. All on the same day. Headlined, if it wasn't for the World Series, by Rams Packers,
Starting point is 00:46:28 Todd Gurley versus Aaron Rodgers. I had the Rams 7.5, you had 7. You got that. Yeah, it started at 9 and now it's down to 8.5. Our friend Ben Falks from ESPN pointed out that this is
Starting point is 00:46:43 the biggest underdog that Aaron Rodgers has ever been as a starting quarterback. Ever? Ever. Holy mackerel. It's a long time. I don't think this is the week the Rams lose. I don't think Green Bay's defense is good enough. I don't.
Starting point is 00:47:03 Did we go through the Rams schedule and see if they're going to lose? Yeah, let's do it because I don't think they don't get tripped up at all. They really don't. Because they've already. It's like three games in a row. You thought that maybe something weird happens. Now, when you add weather to it, when do they leave? Let's see.
Starting point is 00:47:22 What do you mean, when do they leave? I'm trying to think. When do they go to a... They got lucky. They played Denver early in the year. Alright, so they got home for Green Bay at New Orleans. That's a tough one. Home Seattle. Home
Starting point is 00:47:35 Kansas City, November 19th, Monday, ESPN. That's actually in Mexico City. In Mexico City. Yep. Bye week at Detroit, at Chicago, home Philly, at Arizona, home San Francisco. There is a world in which they're 14-0 and we're in this whole, should they go forward or rest their starters? And I've got to be honest, one of the reasons I love this Rams team
Starting point is 00:48:01 is they give zero fucks. And when they're up by 20, they go for touchdowns. They go for the kill constantly. I do not see this team scaling back when they're 14-0 and playing the backup QB. That is not happening. I think they have a real chance. Four games, though, that are potentially troublesome.
Starting point is 00:48:21 At New Orleans, Kansas City, and Mexico. At Detroit, I'll even throw in there. I don't know. At Chicago? Eh, they're winning all those games. Well, shit. If that Monday, November 19th game, that is week 11, so they could be 10-0 playing KC
Starting point is 00:48:37 on a Monday night. It's a pretty sweet game. It's a nice one. I think they did a nice job with the night schedules this year. I think they finally realized that they really only need one good game early, late on Sundays, and then with Sunday
Starting point is 00:48:54 Ticket and Fantasy and Red Zone, we're fine. Just give us the one good game, and then throw the other crap ones in there and we can handle it. But I'd rather have the night games. Well, but then the Thursday night game is probably bad if you're going to do it like that, right? Well, they've been able to go two for three pretty much every week
Starting point is 00:49:12 with Thursday, Sunday, and Monday, which has not always been the case. That's a good point. But the fact that they could flex so early, like if they had to have the Niners-Rams today, that was supposed to be the night game. So the flexing helps. That would have been awful. All right, the watchables. I have
Starting point is 00:49:26 three. First one, Bears-Jets. Kind of enjoy both of these teams. Jets are fun to watch. Gotta be honest. Enjoy the Jets. Darnold. Would you rather have Darnold or Baker right now? I like Darnold. I'm a Darnold guy. I think the Vikings
Starting point is 00:49:42 got on them early. It was smart. Thielen scored right away and it was hard for the Jets to come back after that I think the Vikings got on them early. It was smart. Thielen scored right away. And it was hard for the Jets to come back after that. Plus, the Vikings are just better. And I think Lombardi or someone said they've only allowed five third-down conversions in the last three weeks, which is insane. I'd rather have Darnold for this season. And I don't have an opinion yet on long-term. I don't think Baker's been very good.
Starting point is 00:50:02 I actually thought he was going to get pulled at halftime today. He was terrible. have an opinion yet on long-term. I don't think Baker's been very good. I actually thought he was going to get pulled at halftime today. The Browns faced the bottom five pass defenses in the next five weeks, and Baker definitely didn't expose that Tampa Bay today. No. Tampa does have a good pass rush, and they don't really have anything else.
Starting point is 00:50:20 I have Bears by six and a half for this game over the Jets at home. You're going to get this. I had three. I went low there, and it's six and a half for this game over the Jets at home. You're going to get this. I had three. I went low there, and it's five and a half. I think there's some upside with this Bears team. I said this to you last week. I still don't feel like they know who they are offensively with this Tariq Cohen, Jordan Howard thing.
Starting point is 00:50:40 I think they should just be ball control, play action, scrambling. Mitch just should be taken out of the equation as much as they possibly can. Tariq Cohen is not an every down guy. There's a different version of this team I want to watch. I don't like Trubisky giving this many points, but dare we say this could be a teaser? There's a lot of teaser games this week. I'm going to warn you.
Starting point is 00:51:06 True or false, you asked me if I wanted to parlay the Jaguars with you today. I did. That was a bad pick. Did you actually, you did parlay them? I did, but I didn't do it as much as what we did for everything else, thankfully. And when did I text you back? You don't trust Bortles. I said I can't do Bortles anymore.
Starting point is 00:51:28 I know, but I need to remind you of something. We bet the Jaguars to win the division, and it wasn't long ago. We bet them like three weeks ago to win the division. Oh, after that Pats game. You're going to have to trust them at some point. Well, sir, we get sir,
Starting point is 00:51:41 this is a good time to talk about this, Sir Blake Bortles next week in London. They got to bring him back. The guy's lights out in London. Can't bench him in London. It's the best quarterback in London history. You can't take the baton out of the conductor's hands. That's true.
Starting point is 00:51:55 Jesus. All right. Steelers, Browns. Wait, oh, you're not going to know that? I thought you were doing that game. That's not a watchable or anything? No, that is barely. We'll get to them. All barely. We'll get to them.
Starting point is 00:52:05 All right, we'll get to them. The Jaguars cannot be in the watchables when they had to bring in... Who's the guy they brought in? Cody? It was Kessler, right? Cody Kessler? Yeah. You're not in the watchables with Cody Kessler.
Starting point is 00:52:17 I'm sorry. All right. Steelers-Browns. First time these two played, it was magnificent. Just flat-out magnificent. I loved it. Now we're getting the rematch. Steelers coming off a bye.
Starting point is 00:52:27 I have the Steelers favored by seven over Hugh Jackson and the Browns. I thought it would be higher. I said nine. You're right, though. It's seven and a half. I think this is a nice teaser game. I think is Bell back? I thought he was supposed to come back after the bye,
Starting point is 00:52:42 but now I heard week nine. I don't know. I don't know either. But they can't lose this game. They can't, but I don't like when the division teams have played. They've already had a close game, and now it's happening again. You rarely see a blowout in the second game. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:53:03 I feel like it's going to be tight. It is the Browns though. Third one, Panthers-Ravens. It's in Carolina. I just want to commend Joe Flacco for a second because like five years ago, we were making jokes about how Joe Flacco's best play was the pass interference.
Starting point is 00:53:24 And I think last year he really started to perfect it. And now this year it's his go-to move is to try to just get the pass interference in fourth and seven, fourth and 11. He strategically throws it in ways that the guy, the receiver's turning into the D-back and
Starting point is 00:53:39 I think he's another artist. He's like a smarter Eli Manning. He really is the way he does it. It's so good. It's really like, I think they must call it a play, right? They must call it like PI 34 or something like that. That said, that last drive before the missed extra point, and I feel bad for Justin Tucker because he's probably still staring
Starting point is 00:53:59 at those goal posts. His first missed extra point in his career, over 222 attempts or something. But Flacco's drive down there was effortless. Everybody was open. John Brown is uncoverable sometimes. Yeah, he's been on everyone's fantasy team. Yeah, they were good. You know, I saw on Corolla's Instagram,
Starting point is 00:54:17 he had an interesting theory that I hadn't heard before. What is it? That they should raise the goalposts. He was screaming about it twice today. He thinks the goalposts are high enough, apparently. I haven't heard this before. So apparently he wants longer goalposts. So he did the whole rant again today?
Starting point is 00:54:40 Oh, yeah, because there were two of them that were closed. That one was closed, and then I think Catanzaro's missed field goal, or something else was, like, right there. What do people do when he's ranting about the goalposts? Do they just, like, go to the bathroom? What do they do? Yeah, we do a lot of stuff like that. Do they listen?
Starting point is 00:54:54 You put on, like, AirPods? Start different conversations? We each run into the garage, and we hide in a classic Paul Newman car, and then we sneak our head out. Until he's done. All right. Panthers home for the Ravens. I had the Panthers by three against Baltimore.
Starting point is 00:55:16 I think it's a three. I had the same thing. Yeah. What the hell is going on here? The Ravens are favored by one. This goes back to what I was saying to you before. The Panthers, it's a little smoke and mirrors-y. They're four and two.
Starting point is 00:55:31 The Ravens are four and three on the road. It just feels like they can't put together a complete game. Yeah. And that they play well in spurts, and maybe that's part of it. I don't know why the Ravens should be favored though. What have we, that much, I mean, so on a neutral, so Ravens would be favored
Starting point is 00:55:50 on a neutral field, they'd be favored by seven, or at home they'd be favored by seven. I don't get this. Let's take a quick break. Let's take a break to talk about Red Dead Redemption 2. This ad came on TV today when we were watching football. Nephew Kyle lit out like a
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Starting point is 00:57:51 Oh no, they're not home. Jags in London playing the Philadelphia Eagles who are having one of the just most stereotypical Super Bowl hangover seasons I think we've ever seen. It's really hitting all the check marks. Bad, bad loss. Yep. I think this is an Eagles by three because of the London thing.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Yeah, you get it exactly. I said Eagles by two and a half. It is three right now. I just feel bad for these fans. I mean, these are two of the final four teams last year, right? You're going to see the Super Bowl champ and the AFC runner-up. Yeah. It's going to be a miserable game.
Starting point is 00:58:27 So I picked up Wendell Smallwood and Corey Clement. Corey Clement. Corey Clement. And Corey Clement. Corey Clement. Corey Clement. In our fantasy league two weeks ago because I had a JIE went out. So I spent like $40 in auction money on those two guys.
Starting point is 00:58:45 And they kind of split carries. It was hard to say who's better. So I was actually reading up on them this week and there were rumors the Eagles were going to trade for a running back. And both guys separately were like, we're fine. We've got it covered. We have the running backs right here. We don't need to trade for a running back.
Starting point is 00:59:02 They were terrible today. I mean, they were combined like 30 yards rushing. And we had the trade deadline coming up. And I do wonder if they're going to trade for a running back. Because I don't, I'm not sure either of those guys are a starter. They're kind of redundant too. It's like they need that. Yeah, well, who's even out there?
Starting point is 00:59:21 I don't know. It's not great. So I wonder if they're going to do something, but a lot of running backs have been hurt. Can Dez Bryant play running back? I don't know who. Oh, LaShawn McCoy, but now he's hurt. I don't know who they would get. So
Starting point is 00:59:35 Dez Bryant's career's over? What's going on here? What happened? He ran through. He said he met all the Browns on hard knocks. He hugged them all. Hugged the radio guy, and then just that was it. I never heard from him again. It was one of all the Browns on hard knocks. He hugged them all. Hugged the radio guy. And that was it. I never heard from him again. It was one of the best meetings he's ever had with Hugh Jackson.
Starting point is 00:59:52 That's right. He's like, hey, man, let me ask you something. If you're down three with 50 seconds left, would you tell your quarterback to run out of bounds? He's asking him game management questions. Bengals-Bucks. In Cincinnati, Bengals coming off a shellacking. And yet, I still feel like they're favored by six over the Bucks. I do believe in the Bengals a little bit.
Starting point is 01:00:17 I just don't think they're in the class of the Rams and the Chiefs and the Pats and those kind of teams. That's the only one I got exactly right, and you get it right, too. It is minus six. Yeah. I'll tell you who's not good is Jameis. Yeah, he really looked lazy. He's just not good.
Starting point is 01:00:33 Bad, bad sideline throws. Everyone who was open had a struggle to catch the ball. That was really bad. He's stupidly with the ball, he's just kind of reckless. Throws terrible picks. He's just not good. Takes awful sacks.
Starting point is 01:00:50 Two picks today. He's not good. I read the whole thing on Catanzaro, and he's like, come on, man, you're going to go out there again. You're going to go. We're going to get you out there again. It's like, yeah, because you can't throw a touchdown pass. That's why you have to kick this thing again.
Starting point is 01:01:05 Why don't you play a little better? You blew third and seven for the 19th time. Right. Lions-Seahawks, it's in Detroit. And one of these teams is probably going to make the playoffs, and we'll be making fun of that it's the Saturday shaky playoff games with the Lions or the Seahawks. You can lock that down now.
Starting point is 01:01:24 The Lions running back is really good, and I think cannot be ruled out for Rookie of the Year. With Kerryon Johnson? Yeah. I don't think you can rule him out. Guy's excited. I picked him, and I dropped him, and I did a bunch of stuff with him. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:37 So he's probably going to win it. You dropped him in our league or the other league? I can't even keep track anymore. I must have dropped him in the other league. Oh, that's not smart. He's good. He's good at football. I have the Lions by three and a half over the Seahawks.
Starting point is 01:01:52 I said three and a half also. Only two and a half. Hmm. Interesting. So that's the old, maybe Vegas feels like the Lions are due to lose a really dumb game. I mean, it has been like a month for them. Or they're maybe waiting for, expecting Seattle to get their shit together one of these weeks, right?
Starting point is 01:02:12 Are they coming off a bye? They didn't play this week. The Seahawks didn't play now. Yeah. Chiefs home against the Denver Broncos who put up 32 points for your defense
Starting point is 01:02:27 and you still didn't win. They scored almost half of your points this week in fantasy. Not enough of a lead, apparently. I think this goes to nine and a half but not 10, Chiefs-Broncos. You say nine and a half? Nine and a half.
Starting point is 01:02:42 I'm going to think about this. Now it's nine and I said eight and a half so I don't want to screw this. Now it's nine and I said eight and a half, so I don't want to screw up. I think we both get it. We split that one. I'm going to screw that up. How much does it matter that the Broncos really should have beat them two,
Starting point is 01:02:56 three Monday nights ago? Demarius Thomas is wide open. I think it matters. Like what I said to you earlier, I think that second time with the division teams, there's no surprises anymore and you kind of know it doesn't work. And it always seems like it pulls them a little closer. That said, the Chiefs are winning this and the Rams are winning their game, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:17 Yeah. We're going to keep teasing and parlaying. And then one week, we're going to get kicked in the teeth by one of those two teams. And we're going to be like, why didn't we see this coming? It's going to be awesome. Redskins at the Giants. I have the Redskins favored by two and a half points at the Giants. Yeah, you're going to get it.
Starting point is 01:03:41 I went the full three because they've been so, so bad, the Giants. But it is only one point, Only a one-point favorite. Would you rather have Saquon Barkley or Baker Mayfield? I don't know about that. I would take Darnold over. We discussed Darnold over Barkley last week. I don't know. I'm not sure about Baker yet.
Starting point is 01:03:58 I'm not either. What would you say? So they could have taken Darnold at one and the Giants still do the Giants take Baker at two or do they take Saquon no matter what they were taking Saquon it seemed like they were taking Barkley no matter what
Starting point is 01:04:16 I like Nick Chubb I actually think it probably worked out for the Browns I do like Saquon though do you think the Giants because we don't usually talk about the Monday game I like Nick Chubb. I actually think it probably worked out for the Browns. I do like Saquon, though. Do you think the Giants, because we don't usually talk about the Monday game, what do they do? They lay down for the Falcons, but then come to play against Washington. They have one good game in them in the next eight days or seven days, right?
Starting point is 01:04:41 Well, when does Atlanta have the game where they win like 47 to 10 over somebody and people say, you know who's starting to hit up? Atlanta. And then they score 10 points next week. I just think it's too easy. At three and a half now, the Falcons, that line's down to. Are you going to unlock it in tomorrow? Unlocking this in? There you go. Is that what's going to happen?
Starting point is 01:04:57 I might. I'm the king. I won again. You're the best. I can do whatever I want. Great job by you. The Poopfecta. There's two beauties. This is really like the semifinals of the Poopfecta Bowl. First off, the Colts at the Raiders.
Starting point is 01:05:16 Colts, I have them favored by one and a half. Oh, come on. I think you just clinched the week because I needed the next four to win and we tied there. I said plus one and a half, it's plus one. Colts favored by one at Oakland. I've been saying to you every week on the pod that I believe in a Colts. I actually
Starting point is 01:05:36 think that's the team that could win the AFC South. Because they've been so banged up. They started out one and four, they had bad luck, but now they're starting to get guys back. Well, they're 2-5. So what does that put them? Two games behind? They're 2-5, but they're only
Starting point is 01:05:51 two behind the Texans. Yeah, and they play them. They must play them. But I think like 9-7 is going to... They need to get to 7-2 the rest of the way. Is that realistic? I guess not. Man, they're already out of it at 2-5. Maybe 8-8 gets that division? Maybe. not. Man, they're already out of it at 2-5. Maybe 8-8 gets that division?
Starting point is 01:06:07 Maybe. I mean, that Mac ran for 126 yards today. Like, maybe they have a different identity. T.Y. Hilton started to score. The defense is playing
Starting point is 01:06:16 tough. I don't know. It's hard to say. That Bill's team was a wreck today. This game is really bad. The Cards are home, and they're playing the 49ers. And I promise you I'm not going to watch one minute of this game.
Starting point is 01:06:30 I have the Cardinals by three. I have the Cardinals by two, and Vegas said, F this, you people figure it out. They made it a pick-em. I mean, they played a couple weeks ago in Arizona, won in San Francisco, right? Wow, that seems like an overreaction at Denver game. Sunday night, this is a nice one.
Starting point is 01:06:49 Viking Saints, you'll see the, what do we call the play down the Stephon Diggs play? Would they name it? What was the nickname after the fact? The play? What do you mean? The miracle touchdown last year. Oh, right, right, right.
Starting point is 01:07:04 It had some name. I can't remember. What did they call it? The Minnesotaacle touchdown last year. Oh, right, right, right. It had some name. I can't remember. What did they call it? The Minnesota Miracle? Yeah, something. Minneapolis? Something like that. So they're back.
Starting point is 01:07:12 Vikings home. And I think they're favored by three. I think these two teams are even. You're not even going to want to watch the Red Sox there. You're going to watch this game, aren't you? I won't see a lot of this game. I said Vikings by three also. Only one and a half.
Starting point is 01:07:30 Vegas is sick of getting beat up by the Saints at home or on the road. Monday night, Pat's home. I'm sorry, Pat's in Buffalo. And I really wanted to go to 14 and a half on this
Starting point is 01:07:45 and just couldn't do it because Barner is our running back. So I went to 13 with the underdog scrappy pass. This is ridiculous. It's the most the underdogs have been favored. Hold on. How many did we tie? One, two, three, four. Doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:08:00 It adds up to it. Five, six. Tied six games. I said 13 also, and it is 13. 13? I don't think it's enough. What is Derek Anderson going to do to this team?
Starting point is 01:08:11 Well, you know why they had to do it that way because Tell me. I don't know. 10.3 team tees. Right. It really probably
Starting point is 01:08:23 should be 12 and a half or 12, but they don't want you to tease the Pats down to two or two and a half. Well, why should it be 10 and a half? I mean, the Bills just lost by 40 to a Colts team that has two wins. They lost by
Starting point is 01:08:36 32. Derek Anderson got some good reps. He actually wasn't awful until his first interception. I think it was 11th before his day. He's feeling good now. But everything was underneath.
Starting point is 01:08:48 So I win the week. That's it. Yeah, you smoked me this week. Good job by you. Everything's coming up roses for you. Red Sox, Patriots. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:08:58 The Bruins, have they lost a game? Boston hasn't lost like all week. I don't know what happened in college let's actually talk about the World Series and the odds and all that and then we'll do a little parent corner but first one more break
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Starting point is 01:10:39 the Red Sox won that series, and it took an hour and 43 minutes to play. Wow. This is coming off. Wow, the podcast is longer than that. This was Dave Roberts, five innings with Dave Roberts and Craig Council. Hench was pretty passionate about this point, so I want to credit him, even though more other people had made it.
Starting point is 01:11:01 But I really think, I don't think people really cared that much about the Milwaukee Dodgers series, the NBA was starting I don't feel like it was a series that captured the nation I'm not sure if people argue about baseball and break it down the same way anymore, I think the diehards do the 13 inning game if that had happened, like the Brewers
Starting point is 01:11:22 haven't been in the World Series since 1982. And I'm not, I'm pretty sure they haven't won a World Series since 54. Is that possible? Right? 1954 for them? Was that it?
Starting point is 01:11:38 Yeah. The Braves? Milwaukee Braves, you mean? The AL Brewers have never won. I think that's the city of Milwaukee. They won, I think in 54. Right. Um,
Starting point is 01:11:47 if, if my team was up to one in game four and that game went extra innings. And then in the 13th inning with a guy on second and Bellinger up and the catcher on deck who had made 75 defensive mistakes and was a shell of himself and only batted one more time in the series. He's on deck followed by a pitcher, I think. And they pitched to Bellinger
Starting point is 01:12:13 over walking him and bringing Grandel up. That would haunt me for the rest of my life. That was awful. And they end up, so now it's 2-2 and they lose the series in 7 and Grandel was terrible
Starting point is 01:12:27 he was terrible you just have to pitch around the hot batters but it was a weird thing with the Dodgers because between that game and game 4 they were like
Starting point is 01:12:34 2 for 25 with runners in scoring position and you thought they were just going to go away because that it's tough for teams to come out of that especially National League teams
Starting point is 01:12:43 to battle out of that offensively. And they did just that. I just lost all confidence in Craig Council in anything he was doing. He pitched Wade Miley at one batter. I don't know what this does to anyone's confidence. It just seemed like it was the over-managing Olympics
Starting point is 01:12:59 and nobody won. Were they 80 pitchers in seven games? Oh yeah, went through everybody. He brought in Kershaw on the ninth of game seven with the four-run lead, which seemed curious, but I actually think he was just trying to build his confidence a little bit because he had another up-and-down
Starting point is 01:13:16 postseason, probably wanted him to have a happy moment. Now, how nervous are you? Let me just say, it opened at Red Sox minus 130. Now they're minus 155. You're getting the public backing. Sale is going game one with the belly tattoo. How
Starting point is 01:13:31 nervous are you that Kershaw is going to right the ship at this point and win a couple games? It's going to be better series than you think. Well, they have two good starters, right? Kershaw and Buehler. Mm-hmm. Our team... Rue was pretty good, too. Right. But those
Starting point is 01:13:47 two, I think, are pretty proven at this point. Even Kershaw takes a lot of shit. It's not like he's a bad starter. I mean, odds are he's going to be good. He's the best pitcher of our generation, I think. Yeah. So when he doesn't pitch that well, people have a heart attack because he's
Starting point is 01:14:03 the best pitcher of our generation, but he's still Clayton Kershaw. We have Chris Sale, who was in the hospital on Monday, who pitched four innings last round, who I've heard various rumors, and his story was a belly button ring. I don't know what to believe. I am a subscriber to the took inflammatories for the shoulder, and they ruined his stomach and gave him
Starting point is 01:14:26 you know, and you take too much of something and it like eats up the lining. Something happened. I mean, he looked skinnier. He didn't look right. But we don't really have a reliable starter that I completely 100% trust. We have guys who pitch pretty well.
Starting point is 01:14:41 Of all these pitch well. The closer was just getting shelled, Kimbrell, and then allegedly they figured out he was tipping his pitches, which on the face of it doesn't necessarily explain why he was up 3-0 on every batter. But then people are saying if he's tipping off his cutter, people lay off it, and when you lay off it, that's why he's falling behind in counts. I don't know what to believe anymore.
Starting point is 01:15:08 All I know is he looked a little bit better in the last game. He did give up a warning track thing. But my point is I'm not sure they should be favored by this much over the Dodgers because the other part of this is it's the DH goes away in 3-4-5. They're going to either have to play Mookie Betts at second or they're going to have to play J.D. They're going to either have to play Mookie Betts at second, or they have to play JD. They're playing JD in the outfield either way, but they have to bench whatever.
Starting point is 01:15:29 And their outfield defense was the biggest reason I thought they won the last series. And then the other thing I'll mention the, the home field advantage. You've been to these East coast, late October games. Like I looked at the weather, I'm going back for one and two.
Starting point is 01:15:44 Um, it's going back for one and two. It's going to be like 40 degrees. Everyone's wearing heavy coats and mittens. I remember going to the Red Sox Cardinals in 2004 and it was freezing. That is not an electric crowd. Everyone's bundled up. It's kind of weird
Starting point is 01:16:00 actually. It's like playing the game in a cemetery. And something happens to the bats the third week in October. Yes. Like, it really just. There's a weird vibe. I just don't feel like it's a home field advantage. Am I crazy, or do you believe that as well?
Starting point is 01:16:13 No, and the 2-3-2. Is baseball the only, is the last sport that does 2-3-2? Mm-hmm. It is, right? Yeah. But I still think you want game six at home. I would say the Red Sox in four, Red Sox in six is four to one.
Starting point is 01:16:27 Yeah. I kind of like that. That's what I would go with. Well, Halloween is game seven. That's game seven? Was that a Tuesday? You know, Halloween's my favorite day. That is also the 40-year anniversary of when Michael Myers came home.
Starting point is 01:16:42 Oh. My son's birthday's the next day. I feel like it's going to go seven just because God's going to try to make my head explode that day. But yeah, the home field advantage thing when it's 40 degrees in your stadium, I don't know. I don't know how that's – I feel like that's a neutral advantage. The question for me is the Dodgers not used to playing a ton of cold weather
Starting point is 01:17:04 games, obviously, and then thrown in that situation. I don't know. I like that you and Hanch have made the Dodgers the Yankees West. They're now the villains. You hate Machado. Who else do you hate? Oh, God. Machado is the least favorite Red Sox opponent of this day.
Starting point is 01:17:19 He replaced A-Rod. He's the four-time winner of the A-Rod Award for most hated Red Sox opponent. He took out Pedroia. He's done a whole bunch of shit. We don't like Manny. And then we don't like Manny to the point that when there are rumors, they might trade for him. Like there was message board stuff and arguments about,
Starting point is 01:17:35 do we want this guy on our team? Like he was like a serial killer. He's dirty. And you don't like Puig? Well, nobody likes Puig. Who likes Puig? Who are the Puig defenders? No, I like it. You listed like four guys, though are the Puig defenders no I like it you listed like four guys
Starting point is 01:17:46 though on that group text I like it yeah yeah it's gonna be interesting and I think and Turner easy to dislike Turner you don't like
Starting point is 01:17:54 yeah yeah so because he does the beard thing and you guys your Red Sox would never you know no we would never do that
Starting point is 01:18:00 grow a beard it's like it's ridiculous and then Jansen's fun to root against. I don't know. Yeah, he's fun. I like when he comes in.
Starting point is 01:18:10 I think it would be good. I can't believe the Astros beat you up psychologically after that game won and Kimbrel was shat. Teams don't come back from that. Like I said, the Dodgers, they came back from not knocking anybody in scoring position. It's a little strange that both these teams are here, even though they're probably the best each league has to offer.
Starting point is 01:18:30 I actually kind of thought we were going to get swept after game one. Really? Because the way Sale was pitching and the way Kimbrel was pitching, it just didn't seem realistic. You got such a bonus start at a price. We did. Spectacular. start at a price. I mean, that's spectacular. And we, and it really was one of those series where we probably got like 15 of the top 18 breaks,
Starting point is 01:18:50 right? Like what, when, when you have something like Altuve hits a home run into the stands and our right fielder goes to catch it and somebody hits his glove and it goes in, you usually don't get that call or so. Yeah. Whoever gets that call, it's usually a good sign for that team for the series.
Starting point is 01:19:07 There's a lot of that stuff. Right. I thought the Astros were really good, but their bullpen really let them down. I just didn't think they really only had one pitcher they totally trusted. Yeah, it's going to be a good one. I think it should be relatively even. I think it should be like Red Sox minus 125, minus 130. Lower than that?
Starting point is 01:19:29 Yeah. Yeah, something like that. Who are you picking? I'm going to take the Red Sox in six. I like that four to one. I think that's a good spot for them. Maybe they're up 3-1. They lose game five in L.A., and then they go home and close it out.
Starting point is 01:19:43 Let me tell you, our friend Daniel stands to win a lot of money if the Red Sox, uh, win the trophy. He does that world. I'm making that for tax purposes. That's for his sappiest Red Sox better every year. And somehow they've won three world series since oh four and possibly a fourth. Yeah. Amazing. Yeah. The Red Sox better every year. And somehow they've won three World Series since 04 and possibly a fourth. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:07 Amazing. Yeah, the Red Sox are not the underdog, but the Patriots. I really wanted to think about that after we hang out. But the underdog potential of the New England Patriots. All right, I'll think. You know what? I'll think about it. What do you got for parent corner for me?
Starting point is 01:20:20 I don't have a lot because I was away all week. I was in Brooklyn. And I didn't see a lot of the kids today. I got home yesterday, but I know my 10 year old is quitting Taekwondo. Oh no. Why? What happened? That's it. He just, he decided he doesn't want to do it. And he, he has a cough every time he has to go to a lesson. He has a cough. It's amazing. You don't believe it. And now, so he wants to quit and he wants to take golf lessons, which is like giving your cat golf lessons. He's going to hit it.
Starting point is 01:20:49 He's going to hit the ball like six yards every time. That's it. He's, wait a second. How many belts was he up to? He set probably six belts. Like blue is like the sixth belt. And he breaks the boards all right. But you know, it's hard, isn't it? And like I said, he gets a cough every time he has to go practice.
Starting point is 01:21:11 It's a conditional cough? That's right, yeah. What happens when you're in Brooklyn with Kimmel's show all week? What happens on that Saturday? What's your wife's reaction to you when you waltz back through the door after a week of eating all this free food that Jimmy gets? So happy to see me. So happy to see me.
Starting point is 01:21:29 I mean, just delighted at whatever I picked up at the airport three minutes before I boarded for everybody. I don't know. I'll take care of everything from there on. It's not a good thing. Kyle, do you have a parent corner about either of my kids for this week? Anything jumping out at you? I wish I did. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:21:53 We could skip it. People think we make these things up. I've got notes that Simmons is purposely becoming a C-minus parent just so that he could have a story for Sunday night. I was like, well, that's not really fair. These are really, these are actual stories. Did I do the one about the adult voice coming from Ben's fortnight? Have I done that one yet?
Starting point is 01:22:11 Oh, let's do that one. So, you know, Ben's playing fortnight in his room and usually it's like him and his moron friends and they're playing duos and they're talking, and they FaceTime each other and they play duos or they play squads. And they're like, let's go over to snobby shores or whatever. And they're talking, they FaceTime each other and they play duos or they play squads and they're like, let's go over to Snobby Shores or whatever.
Starting point is 01:22:28 And they go and they conspire and they try to beat these other people who are online. So I'm used to hearing like these little boys' voices and dude, come on. So I'm walking by his door and I hear what I thought was an adult voice. And I'm like, what the hell is that? So I go in and I'm like, who is that? It's like, dad, I'm like, I just heard a guy's voice who, you know,
Starting point is 01:22:55 cause he has, my son has the headset on and he can talk to people and they can hear him. And I'm like, who is the guy? And he's like, it's my Fortnite trainer. And I'm like who is the guy and he's like it's my Fortnite trainer and I'm like what I'm like what do you mean Fortnite trainer and he's like I'm like are you paying him because you don't have any money you don't have a credit card
Starting point is 01:23:15 like what's going on I thought you were going to say it was Kenjen Barner he might have been wow alright no and he's not paying him it was just this guy who's helping him out Wow. All right. No. And he's not paying him. It was just this guy who's helping him out with Fortnite.
Starting point is 01:23:32 And I'm like, how'd you meet this guy? And he goes, I met him online playing Fortnite. No. And I'm like, what is happening? So needless to say, Ben has some random adult online who's helping him with Fortnite. I'm going to say it's a concern. I don't know. It just seems concerning. Maybe I'm crazy. It's not that great.
Starting point is 01:23:52 It's not great, right? A stranger who's decided to befriend a 10-year-old who plays video, they can play video games together. And made up a title like Fortnite Trainer? I don't know. Fortnite Trainer? Is this what Michael Jackson would have done in 2018? Like, is this how he would have met people?
Starting point is 01:24:09 I don't know. I don't like it. So anyway, Ben's Fortnite trainer is no longer with us. So you banned him from interacting with this gentleman. Unless Ben is cheating on me and lying to me and still in contact with the adult Fortnite trainer. Well, you know, so you're going to end up having to get him an actual trainer, aren't you? Maybe.
Starting point is 01:24:32 Maybe Taekwondo. No, no, an actual Fortnite trainer. I mean, these things are big, and I used to think it's stupid. And then I see how much money you could win in these tournaments. Like, well, maybe this is like anything else where, you know, if you could get good at it, it is worth it. Yes. People win like 500 grand. Yeah. I have one more. I'm going to double up. I know you have to go,
Starting point is 01:24:52 but I also have an uncle corner this week. Oh. For Nephi Kyle. We had suspected that he might be sort of back together with the ex. Right.
Starting point is 01:25:10 And Daman was over and I read between the lines of some story and he kind of spilled the beans. And nephew Kyle is not out of the woods yet, doesn't seem like. But that's not the nephew corner. He's back with her. She saw the tattoo and she took him back. Yeah, something happened. So they were explaining to me what Bumble is. Do you know what Bumble is, Sal?
Starting point is 01:25:28 I did know. This is my episode of Uncle Corner. So Bumble is like Tinder, except the women are in control and they control the interaction. So it operates the same way as Tinder, except you can swipe whatever way to tell
Starting point is 01:25:44 whoever that you think they're cute or whatever the hell happens with these crazy youngsters. And then you can hear from them in 24 hours and end up getting together. But the women are in control. Bumble. It eliminates rejection, which is nice. It eliminates rejection. Daman was a big fan of the Bumble scene in LA. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:04 Really? He's on like three others that he's not even letting you know about. He hit the ground running, for sure. If we ever have a... What are these called? Are they called dating apps or something more nefarious? I think that's what they're called, dating apps, yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:26:17 Well, he enjoys... What's the quality like compared to... On both sides, men and women, compared to Tinder? I'm not sure. I think you just got to be careful in Hollywood. You just really got to be careful in Hollywood. That's all I'll say. That's all I'll say.
Starting point is 01:26:30 Savan, he met some lady, but it turned out it was a male Fortnite trainer. You can tell by the handshake. Yeah. So Bumble, there's this whole world going on that we just never experienced. Where you just, you just go on a website, you swipe a couple times,
Starting point is 01:26:49 and the next thing you know, you're at a Starbucks meeting somebody. I don't get it, Sal. I don't know what God did to us to decide that we had to be born 20 years too early and missed all this. Well, between pointless golf lessons and Fortnite trainers, we better hit one of these teasers coming up. Well,
Starting point is 01:27:07 good job by us today, though. We did all right today, except for Sir Blake Bortles. Sal, what do you got to plug? Lock it in, Monday through Friday,
Starting point is 01:27:16 live, 4.30, 5.30, Eastern Time. Also, I don't even know if you know this, I'm doing the pregame show for the college,
Starting point is 01:27:23 Fox Sports College. I was on actual Fox Sports Channel 11, um, this week with your buddy, Rob Stone and, uh, Matt Leinart and, uh, coach wants that and Robert Smith. So that's fun. You did it once or you're doing it every Saturday. I'm doing it every week. I think until they fire me. I mean, I gave them two losers last week. So who knows if they're bringing me back. And Jimmy came alive Monday through Friday, 11.35 on ABC. I have a quick cousin, Jimmy Corner. Go ahead, yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:53 So, I mean, he's a very wealthy, successful guy by all accounts, right? Oh, he's got to have $35 million in the bank. Who knows how much money he has? It's an insane amount. He's done so well that his agent is the wealthiest person either of us know, James W. Biddle Dixon. So whenever he goes on a road trip,
Starting point is 01:28:14 so this time he went to Brooklyn for a week, and people send him free food, and then he takes Instagram pictures with it. It's like he's Vince Young. Right. You know what I'm saying? It's like he's I don't know, Herve Villachez.
Starting point is 01:28:33 Here's what happened. I'll explain to you what happened. Well, this is what happened. Someone will send food and then Jimmy will mention it or tweet it or something. He'll thank them. Because either he thanks them on Instagram or Twitter or has to mention it on the show. And then by Friday, there's like 25 different eateries sending food.
Starting point is 01:28:52 And it's just disgusting. Like, I don't even drink. And I felt like such crap getting on that plane to come back because we had to eat. They have no self-control at all. You have to eat every single thing they send you. You have to try it at least. So it's like cookie dough in a jar. And then there's just like six different kinds of pieces and then like sausage and pepper sandwiches. It goes on and on and on. So yeah,
Starting point is 01:29:14 he's just, the Instagram thing is to thank them versus spending 20 minutes on air. Yeah. But you realize that we have Instagram advertising and usually people, when it's a famous person, there's standards and stuff, but all you have to do is send Jimmy a medium pepperoni pizza and he'll take an Instagram
Starting point is 01:29:36 picture with it. He realizes he hosted the Oscars two years in a row, right? He doesn't care. This is his reward. This is like Gallagher. Gallagher would be taking pictures with Sicilian pizza slices. Not the two-time Oscars host.
Starting point is 01:29:54 I detect a tiny bit of jealousy. But we should have brought you up to that. Jealousy? Yeah. Just a tiny bit. So, you know what? I should just give my address here and maybe people in LA will just send
Starting point is 01:30:08 us food. I'll take Instagram pictures with it. Yeah, but you're not a glutton like the rest of us. Joe House should do that. Joe House should do it. Alright, so I'll do Joe House as a test case. He'll just let it out to the DC area. Of course. That's great.
Starting point is 01:30:24 But Jimmy won't take the pictures with the food in LA. It's only when he's on the road. That's how he explains it. It's not as big a deal. I don't know why. No, he takes Instagram pictures. Well,
Starting point is 01:30:32 what are you supposed to tell you? Everyone takes food pictures, don't they? Well, but it was just for three days. He's just him and pictures of different pizza slices. It was like 40, 40 pictures.
Starting point is 01:30:43 It's like, here's me at a meatball sub from Johnny's in Brooklyn. Here's me in a calzone. You know what? Next time we're going to invite you. I think he gets Cody points. I think he gets Cody points for this.
Starting point is 01:30:56 You're going to be invited next time. How does he not get Cody points? I hate how bitter you are about this. We're going to get you some pizza. All right. Cuz, we'll talk to you next week. Good job're going to get you some peace. All right. Cuz, we'll talk to you next week. Good job by you. Good job by you.
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