The Bill Simmons Podcast - The Kimmel Situation. Plus, "Can the Chiefs Really Go 0-3?" and More Week 3 Gambling Questions With Joe House

Episode Date: September 19, 2025

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and kind of what it means big picture. I wanted to talk about that more than what happened. So it's a little different than the Stephen Colbert thing for a couple of reasons. Colbert, I don't feel like was the face of CBS, whereas Jimmy was. Jimmy, his show has been on for over two decades. He hosts Who Wants to Be a Millionaire on ABC. He hosts the UpFronts. He's been hosting those since the mid-2000s for them.

He hosted the Oscars multiple times. And it's just, I don't even, like when I was growing up when we had battled, network stars and things like that in the 70s. Each network had just all these different stars that you would associate with the network. And, you know, once you get to 2025 as they're making less and less TV shows, there's more reality shows, there's more sports, all these things that that kind of make a network feel less vibrant, I guess, than a lot of the streamers. Jimmy was one of the few people that you would have associated with ABC.

see. Colbert, his show is expensive. It wasn't as impactful on social media. And when it got canceled or when they said they were canceling it next May, my reaction was, you know, like a lot of other people like, ha, this is sinister, what's going on here. But it really does seem like they wanted just to get out of late night and the show was too expensive for them and the risk kind of exceeded the reward. And the reason I think that was because Paramount, the company that, you know, was in charge of this decision, after they got rid of Colbert, they double, they triple down on South Park, which is a show that's way more controversial, way more critical of the Trump administration and just pushes the envelope way harder than Colbert did. So, you know, when you look

at the Jimmy's situation, I just think he means more to ABC in a bunch of different ways. But if you compare it CBS versus ABC, it comes down to leverage and it comes down to leverage and comes down to power. Paramount, they're not canceling South Park because it's too important of a brand to them. It matters too much. They can't get rid of it. It drives too many subs. Trump knows that. The people that he's going to use to try to put pressure on stuff to get rid of programming or hosts or whoever, he knows they're not going to get rid of South Park. But Colbert, there's a door open and you can kind of push through. So if he was responsible for that, who knows? But I just don't think Colbert had the same leverage.

NBC, like it was interesting Trump this week mentioned like Fallon and Seth are next. Well, Fallon and Seth are in a weak spot right now because late night television is in a completely different stratosphere than it was even 10 years ago. Yeah, it's conceivable they would get rid of both of those shows and just show reruns or whatever. S&L is a different story and Trump's complained about S&L over and over and over again over the years, but NBC's never canceling it. There's no situation where they would be. like we are getting rid of this show that gets massive ratings that's you know a huge live thing for us that does incredible stuff online we would get a huge blowback for it and NBC is going to treat SNL a little differently and then maybe they're going to treat the late night things

ABC and Kimmel that was somewhere in the middle of those two worlds the CBS and maybe SNO and NBC but at the FCC can leverage some affiliates to get rid of it then that becomes a different story. And what we learned from all of this stuff was that the affiliates and these companies, there's this merger. You have Next Star merging with Tegna, two companies that I put zero thought in over the years. But apparently they want to merge. They need FCC approval. The FCC, the guy who runs it, appointed by Trump, I don't know, eight years ago, he sees an opportunity to leverage some stuff. They need to approve the merger. So now you start leveraging and leveraging. And if you want to get rid of a show like Jimmy's show,

this is the moment to do it. But what was interesting in Rolling Stone the next day, they had this tidbit. In the hours leading up the decision of Pull Kimmel, two sources familiar with the matter, say senior executives at ABC, its owner, Disney, and affiliates convened emergency meetings to figure out how to minimize the damage.

Multiple execs felt that Kimmel had not actually said anything over the line, which I agree with. The two sources say, but the threat of Trump administration retaliation loomed. And that's why this isn't cancel culture. This is censorship, which is a completely different situation. But this goes back to the leverage versus power thing. You know, initially, as this is unfolding, Jimmy's show isn't quite powerful enough for Disney for them to defend it

the same way NBC would have defended Saturday Live in a similar circumstance, right? Trump knows this. Bob Agar knows this. There's only so far, they're going to go. And if it's going to cost them affiliates and all of these issues, they're not going to mess with it. But what changed over the last 24 plus hours is there was such a groundswell. This just felt like this became the moment. If we stand by and let something like this happen, what's next? Where do we go? And, you know, I was, I grew up as a kid in the 70s reading about McCarthyism, about the Smothers Brothers getting basically fired by CBS because they get challenge in the Vietnam War, Lenny Bruce, you know, Woodward and Bernstein and the Washington Post,

challenging Nixon. And when you're a kid reading that stuff, especially going into the 80s, a lot of these people become heroes. And a lot of the stories that you read about them, you're like, man, those people really stuck to their guns. They stuck to their values. And fast forward to 2025, and nobody sticks up for anything. Everybody's afraid of everything at all times. It's just the reality of the situation. We don't need to go and why. There was such a groundswell against Disney this week that I actually think this, I went from thinking there was no chance this show was going to come back. And I just never, I thought Jimmy, rightfully so, was just going to dig in and maybe that was

going to be it. But maybe this flips. Maybe what Disney is realizing is that at some point you got to stand for something. At some point, you got to stand by a person who has been one of the best people you've had for 20 plus years who all he's done has elevated your company who has come through time and time again in all these different ways and is a face. Once you start losing your faces, you just don't have a soul anymore. You're just another place that's just pumping out content. You might as well be Pluto at that point. And I think maybe that's why there's a little hope with this. But again,

it's Thursday night. I don't know how it's going to play out. The bigger question for me, Why does Jimmy need ABC anymore? And I've not talked to him about this. You know, this is, I've been in this situation. I was in this situation 11 years ago and 10 years ago. And when your life and career blows up in one second and all these people are reaching out, it's pretty overwhelming. I don't know why he needs ABC. Howard Stern was in this position two decades ago and ended up with Sirius and probably has no regrets, right?

He was just tired of dealing with the FCC, goes to Sirius and has this whole second act. Conan gets out of the late-night grind, really got screwed over by the Tonight Show and Leno, ends up at TBS. It becomes pretty irrelevant for somebody who's on TV every day and then just completely reinvents himself. And I think is now in an incredible position. Like I think he's really somebody I admire a lot how he was able to reinvent everything he was doing. Joe Rogan is the biggest host we have of anything, right?

Now, technically, he licenses his podcast to Spotify, but he's, he's his own thing. He does what he wants. And he has his own platform. And the point is, you can create your own platform now. You don't need these big places that are going to get intimidated by, by whoever, FCC, the president. You can get your content out in whatever way you want. Like, I remember when when I was leaving ESPN 10 years, ago and there was this perception like nobody could leave ESPN you had to have ESPN or else you were just

going to wither and die basically and now 10 years later that seems stupid it seems stupid to me that anybody would think Jimmy's next act isn't going to be really good and maybe maybe it's a maybe it's a point now at the show that you're doing it because you did it for a long time because you have 200 people working for it because uh you know the night-to-night rhythm of it you still feel like it matters, but if you don't think he's going to figure out another way to do content in an awesome way, you just don't know the dude because he will. He'll figure it out immediately and he's the most competitive person I know. The biggest difference, though, so this is from the Lauren Michaels book, Lauren Michaels, who is very passionate over the years about how important

SNL was just as a platform, and rightfully so, because it's one of the most important shows that we've had on any platform for what had done for comedy and music and political satire everything. But he had this story and he's told it a few times, but it's in the Lord Michael's book about the Smothers Brothers and how four or five years after the show got canceled, he went to their comeback show at the troubadour and drunk John Lennon was in the audience and he was heckling them and calling them fuckers. And it was just kind of a dark night. And it was one of those nights that really affected Michaels because he was like, these guys were in the top of the world five years ago.

And they stuck up for what they believed in. And five years later, they don't have a TV show and they're getting heckled by drunk John Lennon. And it's like, Jesus. So this is what it said in the book by Susan Morrison. Michaels was horrified, and he thought about that evening many times in the coming years whenever he found himself in a difficult spot

with the network, NBC. I never got tempted by the idea of being martyr he said one of the things i taught myself is you have to stay in the air it's not worth it to blow yourself up for principal in a community that will sell you out he went on i realized okay you can take it to the brink but if you give up your power you've done nobody any good he knew he didn't want to end up like tom and dick smothers and i think that's totally justified and it was it was a great way for lor michael's to think for his entire time he had us know because it was he's correct my point is in 2025, I don't know if you need to think that way anymore.

The platform isn't ABC. It's not a late night show that Jimmy is lucky enough to host, even though he is lucky. He can still have that platform wherever he wants because he's the platform. And that's the difference in this. And that's why I don't think this is quite as scary and terrible as maybe it felt this week. Yeah, we're going to have censorship. Yeah. stupid shit like this

apparently is going to keep happening for the next three years yeah it's the discourse is the ugliest that's ever been but I still feel like if somebody's good enough to have a platform they can find it so I hope Jimmy's show

sticks around and I hope ABC sticks by him and I think if they don't I think it would be pretty cowardly I don't think that's a crazy thing to say but if they don't stick by him and this is the end I think he's going to be fine

he'll find another platform somewhere and he'll figure out how to get all his content out in the right ways and I would not bet against that dude. So the situation sucked. I kind of can't believe it didn't happen. It had to be the lowest threshold ever for an overreaction like this. But ultimately, maybe the way everybody rallied around the show the last 24 hours and just rallied around the concept of free speech, maybe we needed it. So stay tuned. We didn't take a break, talk football. podcast is brought to you by Fandul. Fandle turning up the heat every Sunday with power hour, the ultimate live betting window where the action is wild and the roared's even better.

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I did okay gambling-wise the Raiders didn't help me out on Monday night but for the most part a lot of favorites covering we've had a lot of quarterbacks getting hurt already including yours and the Packers are the big winners

for the juggernaut spot the Colts are the big winners for the whoa where these guys come from spot the Bears seem to be the giant disappointment team and then the Chiefs or the question mark of, is this the end of the era?

Which storyline are you the most interested in? Honestly, the chiefs, because I think that they still have some chapters to write, and I still trust Mahomes and Reed, and we just need to see them with a healthy, competent receiving core, and it might be like a eureka kind of experience, because we didn't see it really at all, the entirety of last season, when they went 15 and 2 and made it all the way to the Super Bowl.

No, it might be one of those It might be one of those Tale of Two Cities seasons Where like the first half of the year They look awful And then all of a sudden by week 14 They're fine They don't even really look awful

I mean you know The defense isn't as Lockdown as it was At the end of last season Thus far But they also play the Chargers And the Eagles who You know style-wise

Pretty tough teams Yeah compared to the Colts Who went 2 and O But the first one was against a Miami team That it feels like it's imploding and then the second win was against the Broncos where they lost the game and then there was a leverage penalty

and all of a sudden they did not lose the game. Both of those at home, both of those Danny Dimes and Shane Steichen in their bag catching the league by surprise a little bit. I mean, the Denver defense was the biggest disappointment in that game. Yeah, the linebackers look a little slow,

not getting stops. There's been some explosive plays. They went right at Certain. So week three trends, this is usually. usually a great betting week and one that we've had success with over the years. You usually see the 0-and-2 teams as dogs usually do well. The division home dogs, they usually do well.

It's a good time to capitalize on some overreactions. But what's interesting is there's so much gambling data and analysis and everything that some of the games that I think 15 years ago would have just seemed like Colts minus four and a half over the Titans. He was like, oh, the Colts. Then the Titans win in Tennessee. You're like, oh, my God, I can't believe it. Now we have our radar up for all of these,

and it's harder and harder to find the inefficiencies. But we're going to try. We're going to go through the slate. I have the stayway group house, which includes the Chiefs, who you just mentioned. Chiefs Giants, two own two teams. It still feels like, I feel like the Chiefs are just getting two extra points just because they're the Chiefs.

This line should probably be three and a half. yeah and maybe we'd mess with if it mess with it if it was in that range but i don't want to try and gamble on the chiefs winning by margin and six is margin so i i just don't yeah and i don't really want to take the giants against the chiefs if the chiefs were two and oh i feel like this would be a live one you'd be looking at this going out let down game giants go up early but i do the you know the giants pass rush against a pretty shaky offensive line for the chiefs the lack of explosiveness for the chiefs. Chiefs don't run the ball, can't run the ball.

So, I mean, they're going to need something from Kareem Hunt. If I had to pick a side, I'd pick the Giants, but I'm not touching that game. I'm not touching your game either. Washington's three and a half now over the Raiders. They were three when we locked on the 107 picks. Can't play it. Don't know anything about the quarterback. We'll know Sunday morning.

So after this, you're at Arizona, ad chargers. We don't have must wins in week three. but I don't know if you want to lose this one with those next two coming in a banged-up quarterback. Well, we can't lose this one because of the condition in which the Raiders arrive, which is off that tough Monday night football game. It was physical.

The Chargers beat the hell out of them. Gino was backpedaling and thrown to the wrong team all game long. So you got to get this one if you're Washington and have hopes on a repeat visit to the playoffs. I do like the idea of zagging after a bad Gino game. on the Raiders. If I had to pick a side, I'd probably pick the Raiders, but a stayaway for me. The big thing for the Raiders, I just thought Bowers looked like a different guy on Monday night. He's clearly hurt. He wasn't explosive. He was such like an X factor for them, the second

half of last season, and then in game one, then in game two, he just, he just wasn't the same. I thought that was a big reason why they looked at crap. Next one, that's a stayaway, Vikings Bengals, Vikings by three. Jake Brownie versus Carson Wentz. I picked up Jake Browning in our guillotine league, some positive, some positive offensive stats with him. Congratulations. Minnesota is 32nd in EPA for offense right now. And do you think J.J. McCarthy is actually hurt if you had to, at gunpoint. What do you think?

Oh, that's a great one. You think he's going to have his hour long. They're going to, he and Coach O'Connell, they're having their hour long in Coach O'Connell's office. They're back. It's now a book club. Thursday afternoon. I have to go sit for my hour with coach and go through the playbook.

I love this conspiracy action. Why is this a cross-off for you? I'm curious. It doesn't have to be. I just two backup quarterbacks I don't really want to back either than the Bengals I don't feel better about their defense or their offensive line that I did two weeks ago

and I don't know what to make a Minnesota. I can't believe how bad their offenses. The three points is what is kind of capturing my fancy a little bit. Like, if it was Minnesota one and a half, just a standard home field advantage or two, it's the Vikings at home, that's the home field advantage. But the Carson Wentz aspect to this is unbelievable to me. I watched him. He has no business being in the NFL in any capacity other than holding a clipboard

and helping his guys, you know, maybe leading prayer circle after a game. Oh, he could do a prayer circle. He could do prayer. He's going to be doing prayer circle. You just do, you gather everyone in and then you nail and you say a prayer. I feel like you can do that. He definitely can do that. Anyway, so you want to mark this?

Should I put it in bold? Just mark it for in the possible. Just mark it for a minute. Because it's not like the Vikings defense has exactly wowed us in the first couple games. Somehow the Bengals are 2 and 0. And it feels like their season is over. But yet they're 2 and 0 and they're playing a team that could not. move the ball gets the Falcons last week is now on the Carson Went stage of at least for the

next two weeks and you're right. All right. I'll move it in there. Well, just for a second. I'm probably going to dispense with this. I'm probably going to say, what are we doing? Well, what did you get my while the foreplay? It's just, I want to see what it feels like. Why did you, why'd you plug it in if you're not going to use it? One never knows. Broncos chargers. This is in LA. I think they're probably about 40,000 Denver fans here. Denver coming off, just an awful loss. Just awful loss for us, too. It really hurt us in Ringer 107.

This line was three and it dropped a two and a half. And when it dropped a two and a half, it became a no play for me. I think these games, the Chargers looked really good against them last year. Chargers look really solid in general. I thought Gino had a lot of throws, especially in that second half that he just sailed or, you know,

I didn't think that Chargers defense was as good as it would look after the game. We were like, oh, they only give up nine points. I thought there were guys open. Khalil Mack got hurt. Denver coming off really an ugly week one win and then an uglier week two loss. This feels borderline kitchen sinky for me. Do they want to go one and two, fall two behind the Chargers with the Chiefs looming as well? ultimately a stay away for mehous

I really want to petty bet the Chargers to punish the Broncos because the Broncos invented ways to lose that football game invented ways to not cover that football game they were at all three levels self-sabotaging

offense defense and special teams well let's just add another one the coach the dumb-ass coach who on the 60-yard field goal attempt with a rookie field goal kicker. Yeah, let's do. Let's have the block on because we're so concerned about this kid in these circumstances. Come on, man.

What are we doing? And this is part of the thesis that coming into the season inform the confidence in the Broncos. We all have exposure to the Broncos because this combination, you know, Bo Nix in the second year. It's our fault. He looks shaky as hell. And Peyton is, you know, somebody by that man, a cup of coffee. So he can wake the F up. And maybe he could share some of the play calling duties as well.

But the late interception by Nick's in that game, I just was wholly underwhelmed by the Broncos. Dumb Dobbins penalty, dumb face mask penalty that sent them back, missed the field goal. They do big dumb things, big dummy things. The Chargers might be good. And I'm not willing to commit to it yet. But, you know, and I'm not breaking any news with that statement.

But they really might be good. They might be the third best team in the air. But I think this is the week we find out if they are or not. Okay, okay, okay. I didn't like the way they finished that Raiders game at all. And I know it's a Monday night game. It was a weird time. But yeah, they just.

The fourth down call with the jet sweep. Come on. What are you doing? It's wrong the effing football. I'll tell you another thing. Not sure about Hampton, who they spent a really high first round pick on. I think he was the 12th pick. I liked it a little more when Nadja Harris was in there.

Yeah, felt a little more. I mean, you know, Hanthid did put the ball on the ground. Nadja Harris is healthy, right? Huh? Not your hair is a selfie. Yeah. Well, he had a little fireworks accident or whatever. No, no, I know.

I would lean Broncos, but it's a stayaway. Lions, Ravens, I would rather, we're going to get to a parlay portion of this. I'd rather talk about the Ravens in that section. But they're five and a half against Detroit. Detroit looked awesome last week. That was a, oh, Ben Johnson. We heard our name in the streets kind of an impact game. But I don't see their defense stopping the Ravens ever.

Now, I don't know if this could be a shootout, but I'm a little more interested in the Ravens than a money parlay, which I would like to discuss to you in a later category. I will be all the ears. I don't want to mess around with a Vegas zone number, especially the Ravens Van Noy is hurt. Looks like he's out. And Marlon Humphrey is questionable.

Those guys matter. to that Ravens defense. So I'm fine with being cautious. Okay. Bears, Cowboys. You know, I kind of like the Bears. They're minus one and a half somehow against the Cowboys who cannot defend anyone.

They single-headed rejuvenated Russell Wilson's career last week. The Bears looked, you know, obviously awful against Detroit, and their defense sucks too. And this feels like it could be like a whoever has the ball last game. it's more meaningful for the bears though because they're over two and they just got smacked by the lions and this is a our season is over if we can't beat this crappy Dallas team um so tell me one good thing about the bears tell me one thing that you've seen that's good from the Chicago Bears that's why I have this in the stayaways well here's the thing we have one good thing from Dallas that

offense is cooking. Yeah. I kind of love Dallas this week. I think, you know... Is that one of your picks? It's sitting here right on the sidelines. I have you know, I have my little book here. It's in the book. I do have I'll try and make the case, but let's

see if we, maybe we'll have consensus on five, but I think the Cowboys are the side in that game. I mean, I don't, what proof is there that the bears can score under any circumstances, even against

this Dallas team. The Dallas team, even with Micah out, they have been able to manage like kind of reasonable pressure. They had their pressure numbers are like in the middle. And the Giants were. No, I'm just saying. It's not a joke. Give up almost 40 points of the Giants.

Seahawks Saints it's up to seven and a half. It is a lit. Let's be careful out there. I'm not sure the Seahawks should be favored by that much against anybody. And I like the Seahawks. I like their defense. This seems to me like one of those where if you're going to bet the Seahawks, do an alt-line

like minus 14 and a half, bet on the blowout. In the old days, we would have teased the Seahawks against Spencer Radler with the 12th man. I'm not ready to do that. And I also think the Saints are a little better than, you know, we have that, we did that fourth place bet

where we had the Saints and the Browns and the Dolphins and Tennessee and felt really good about that. And a big piece of that was Carolina being better than the Saints and I'm not sure they are and I think that's going to be one we're going to have to hedge that one late in the season because as we get down there yeah they're not awful they're not good no they're not awful they're not awful carolina is awful they're awful they're awful

i don't i don't want anything to do with that seattle um saints game well that's why that's and then last but not least is packers browns in cleveland packers the sign is just suspiciously only at seven and a half even though people think the Packers are the best team in the league. And the Browns, they played like two and three-fourths, really good quarters against Baltimore. And then that game slipped away. And then the week before, they should have won against,

who'd they play week one on Blankham? The Bengals. They should have beat the Bengals. Their field goal kicker kicked them out of the game. Their defense might actually be good. It's good. It's a good defense. So I wouldn't do this straight up.

I would consider a, a Packers in a parlay just to win. I want to be careful. I think that Brown's defense, it keeps them in the game. They just keep defeating with stupid turnovers and special team mistakes at the wrong time. They were in that game against the Ravens

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it was Bears minus 1.5, but now, as we're taping this Thursday night, it's Cowboys favored, but 1.5. So what do you think happened? Was there another Caleb Williams hit piece that I missed? No, no, I just think people looked at the matchup and loved the idea of the Cowboys as a dog. The best unit in that game is the Cowboys offense. That's still a three-point shift. It's weird that we can't ever have a pick-em. Pick-ups just never, it has to be, it has to get to one and a half.

It can't even get to minus one. It's got to just, if it flips the one-and-a-half, so it just flips the other side. Okay, Possible. We already talked about the Bengals. You talked about the Cowboys. Rams plus three and a half in Philly. It feels like there's a lot of sharp sentiment

heading toward this already for a variety of reasons. The way that the Eagles' offenses look terrible. The Rams played them well last year. People like watching the Rams throw the ball. They're good. These might be two of the four best teams in the NFC. There's a tush push.

A lot of stuff about how they were kind of cheating on the tush push on Sunday, And I wonder whether the refs are going to be really looking at that play a little more carefully. I wish this line was four and a half. The three and a half makes me a little nervous, but I still kind of like the Rams. Yeah, I'm on the side of the Rams. I like the Rams here. I think that their ability to rush for and not have to necessarily get pressure and not blitz,

I like that. Yeah, me too. I like the idea of them taking away the run. I think they can do it. And, you know, Sequin isn't even averaging four yards a rush yet. I'm not worried about him, yeah. You're not. I mean, we're also not really worried about Hertz.

He has two passes this season. I'm more worried about him. Well, two passes this season of 10 yards or more. Two games, two passes of 10 yards or more. I don't understand why they're not airing the ball out with him. I watched his, uh, They miced him. There was like a 14 minute Jalen Hertz miced, which I watched all of.

It's really fun at the end when he gets mad at Chris Jones. When they're like, they're like kneeling to end the game. And Chris Jones is like, these motherfuckers don't even have 100 yards. And he's like, we won the damn game or whatever it was. I was like, all right. This is why we mic the players. I like this. I enjoyed it.

Yeah. So I guess the bigger question for me is are the Rams actually good? Because if they went in Philly in week three, that is a statement. that they're actually going to be heard from in the NFC this year and that where we had Packers won, Eagles have to be two, and then the Rams are like right there. Maybe the Lions. I don't see anyone in the NFC West really that can make a case yet,

but this is other than the Rams. So this would be a real statement for them. Kind of like Atlanta too, but let's see them for a few more weeks. The big thing for the Eagles is Dallas Goddard. So like if you were going to be kind of an apologist about how they perform, formed against the chiefs. Chiefs have good defense defense that took them to the Super Bowl. No Dallas Goddard.

Goddard, I think is supposed to be back. That's the idea. So maybe a little bit of the multiplicity on offense. Has he ever been 100% in the last 10 years? Was there ever a report Dallas Goddard? He's feeling great. He was good against Washington and NFC championship game. Dallas Goddard has trying to pull out is.

He was really good at stuff. Speaking of the NFC, West, Niners cards, inner division, Niners home, their landing. two and a half. I love the Niners in this one. I think this is going to be one of the five for me. And it's not even a team I love that much. But,

and especially with Mack Jones, they're pretty might play. But the Cardinals, the deep back situation for them is so abysmal. They've lost so many guys. They're down to like backups to the backups. And I just think this line should be higher. I don't even care who the Niners quarterback is.

This is just like a Shanahan run the ball, play action, a couple deep throws. It's been the game in tidy fashion, that's it. And it looks like the Niners with that Williams, the rookie they have on the D-Lyne, who has been impactful for them. Yeah, potential defensive rookie of the year.

I'm not impressed by the cards at all. They've held on for Deer Life for two weeks in a row. And I just find it hard to believe they're going to go three and O is another piece of this. Right? The cards are very few. We don't have to lay anything. It's the Niners. Put it in the book. It's a lock. It's in our 107. Niners.

I like it too. How you feeling about Jags Texans? I've gone both ways on this one. Jaguars at home, favored by one and a half. Lots of storylines. Lots of Brian Thomas Jr. drama. Lots of what's going on with Travis Hunter stuff. The Jags, kudos to them. They've generated a lot of content through a couple weeks. There was a great Reddit post on the Jaguars Reddit about how Trevor Lawrence doesn't actually throw hospital balls with all this data.

I was like, I was pretty compelling case. Maybe my eyes have been deceiving me. He's also not accurate. I mean, there is that. He may not be throwing hospital balls, but he's certainly not accurate. They're definitely, the Trevor Lawrence hive is pretty funny.

We're like, if not for those drops, he would have had four touchdowns. And, you know, it's like, all right. Yeah. Cool. Do you feel good when he's inside the 10-yard line? Because I don't. Well, part of the thing, too, God damn it, Jags. Like you have the coach, like Diamie Brown is out there. I watched him for Washington. It was an absolute good riddance. And Lawrence hits him dead in the hands for a touchdown that, you know, should have helped put the game away. And dope drops it, as always. I mean, I really had enough of him in Washington. Good luck in Jacksonville. way were you leading on this game? I'm curious.

I'm leaning Jags, and there's a couple of reasons for it. I think their defense. I think they actually have like a pass rush and defensive pressure. I think they're right. They pick Browning three times. It was one of those where the vibe

of the game was just off and the since he kind of stole it, but I didn't mind how they played. I think they have playmakers. They have this backup running back Tutin, who I think might be legitimately good. And I wonder if like this is the week they unleash him. And also they had a big microscope on them this week. And Brian Thomas Jr. had a big microscope. He's very polarizing right now for dogging on routes and stuff. And so from a jaguar side, it's like, all right, if you guys have anything in you, this is the week. And then on a

Houston side, they can't block. We've watched them two weeks in a row. Two years. Two weeks. Especially like They had two really visible games this, this camp block. They, you know, Nick Chubb actually broke a couple runs, but I don't trust that piece. And I don't think C.J. Strouds look good at all. And really, for the last year plus, he hasn't looked like the guy who was as a rookie. I just don't think they have it.

I don't think, I don't know who's going to win that division, but I just don't think it's going to be Houston. and I think the Jaguars have just as much talent with them. So them being home, minus one and a half, Florida, outdoors, maybe there'll be some hot weather. The Jags can't win this game. Come on. The case for Houston is they are 6 and 0 over the last, since 2018 in Jacksonville and 4-1-1 against the spread.

So they feel like they own the Jaggs. And C.J. Stroud has had some good games against the Jags. Now, this is a different iteration of the Jags, and a different iteration of Houston, especially their run defense. You can run the football. We watch Tampa run it right down their throats. I mean, you know,

they had some creative movement stuff with Bucky Irving, and I don't see why that's not replicable for the Jaguars. And, I mean, I like the idea of Liam Cohen in his bag a little bit. I don't know how the Texans solve their rush defense issue. But if the Jags can establish the run, then I think you're on the right side. Yeah, the counter, if you were going for Houston, is they've only given up 28 points in two weeks. They dropped or had a chance to have multiple turnovers on the defensive side that they didn't get.

Did you say that stat Baker has, he could have like six picks, he's zero? Oh, yeah. It's like six dropped or whatever. Yes, yes. But I just don't like the vibe of that. team they have two guys who can rush a passer and they have a very good secondary but that same very good secondary got lit down the stretch by baker when he had to go leave the field they were up five with two minutes left if you have a good defense you got a you got to finish it and they didn't

that's right and uh i don't know i've watched this jacksville team i've watched a lot of them the last two weeks and i think they can move the ball like for real um against carolina it was really sloppy and disjointed. They still got to 26 points. They left a lot of stuff on the table, but there was, you can see the potential of it. Yeah.

And then they put up 27 again, sitting and it really should have been like 40. Should have been 40. Because they got inside the 10 twice, two other times plus the 27. Yeah. So as crazy as it sounds, I kind of like the checks.

I don't think it's that crazy. We're just, you know, the trend is to not take the team, you know, the O and 2 team is supposed to be the, side, but it's a tiny line. I think it's line perfectly. Pat Steelers.

Pats are plus one and a half in this game against Pittsburgh. The defensive stats, the advanced stuff for Pittsburgh is even worse than it looked like from an eye test standpoint. Like they basically can't tackle. They had 18.2% mistackle rate according to the next gen stats. Not to mention they've had some highsmiths out of this. game. Right.

Looks like Joey Porter's probably going to be out. The defense dating back to last year when they really started a tail off those last four or five games and then heading into this year, the Jets lit them up and then couldn't do anything a week later. I think the Pats could cook in this game. The Pats are good last week against the Dolphins. Like their offense was moving the ball and doing a lot of good things. I think they've kind of rejuvenated Remandre.

The left side of the line is actually able to block now. they have multiple receivers who can at least get open on a third and seven and I like the spot for them I also think the Pats have a real pass rush this year this Milton Williams

they signed he's been awesome I think he's the number one ranked defensive lineman through two weeks but he's been like really really really disruptive and that's how you beat Pittsburgh

you got to disrupt Rogers pressure him get in there and I think this Steelers season is about to do this and that's the case for Pats plus one and a half this is going to be one of my two, four or five.

What is your current information on the availability of Christian Gonzalez? That's the most important thing to me. He practiced. I have no idea if he's going to play. And I like them either way. Okay, well, I can give a throaty endorsement if Christian Gonzalez is involved, because I really love him locking down one side of the football. Yeah, well, especially with the pressure putting on, you know, What are you talking about?

Oh, I have some of the jokes. I won't do it. So the case for Pittsburgh is they won in week one, and week two came down to that dumb ass, not understanding the kickoff role that swung the game. I thought, I actually just thought Seattle outplayed them, and basically Darnold had two bad passes that they picked, and Seattle still won by 14,

which is, I think, a really bad sign for them. They're playing Minnesota and Cleveland after this for the next two. and then they're at Cincinnati, home Green Bay, home Indianapolis, at the Chargers. And, you know, that's nine games. I think this is, this feels like they could be like three and six after nine games. This could really be the year. We're like, oh, I guess Tomlin can't win 10 games every year.

Well, if that's the case, this is one of the games that they lose, if that's the case. Well, I'll tell you this. If the Pats win this and then they have Carolina next. week, that's three and one. At Buffalo week five, three and two. At New Orleans, at Tennessee, home Cleveland, the next three. They literally could be five and three without us having any idea if they're even decent. But this was the case for them going nine and eight.

Their schedule is terrible. And if Pittsburgh's not going to be good, that really helps the case for like the schedule might create a nine and eighteen. Not to mention the Jets in Miami really should be four wins for them potentially. Right? They're division games. They're tough games.

I mean, Miami damn near won that game in Miami. The punt return should have been a clinching play. The past show won that game in the first half, though. Speaking of the AFCs, the Jets are six and a half in Tampa. Tyraud Taylor is playing. which I like. I know higher floor than Justin Fields, probably a lower ceiling.

Tampa's just demolished on the offensive line, like to a dangerous level. It's really bad. And I don't think Worst is playing this week than they missed. They lost two other starters. And I feel like this line's too high. This is an overreaction to Buffalo

spanking the jets last week. Six and a half has too many points. This should be a four and a half point line. Totally agree with every aspect of that. that do we dare bet against Baker Mayfield? I mean, part of the thing... I don't want to bet the Jets? I don't want to bet the Jets either.

They killed us last week. Yeah. That game, we bet that, we, as I talked about on Sunday, that should be an alert from Fandall where they alert you that you bet on Justin Fields against Josh Allen. We learned our lesson. But I think this line's too high. It's too high.

I don't want to bet it. I just can't get there. All right, last one is Titans Colts. Titans are a classic shirt. sharp pick. Colts pass rush has been bad. Titans offensive line. Multiple injuries. Latham might be out. I think there's, uh, their Zitler might be out too. Colts should be one-on-one. Colts on grass. Colts outdoors. Colts with a lot of smoke getting blown up their ass all week. It has all the makings. And I actually like the, the Titans receivers. That

rookie they have, the fourth rounder. I think it's good. I picked them up in one of my leagues. And, And Ridley and, I don't know. I can't work. Yeah, it's good. Four and a half seems like a point and a half too high. I thought this should have been close minus three. No argument whatsoever. Will not, under any circumstances, bet on the Titans.

Just won't do it. Just will not do it. As long as that moron is the head coach, never betting the Titans. You know, it could have been Colts by 10. Just not doing it. He fixed the special teams. Special teams are okay finally. Well, they hired a special teams coach.

Fostle's good. Yeah, they realized that special teams were one of the three parts of football. Congrats. All right, parlay possibilities. The Falcons money line against the Panthers. I want to put the Falcons money line with something

because I actually like the Falcons. I think they're good. Me too. You could also talk me in a Falcons minus five and a half, but I'd rather moneyline them with something. I don't want to mess with that. That's too dumb. It's in Carolina.

They should win. It has another one that has all the makings. You're going to get an O and two team. But I think Carolina is like genuinely bad. And they threw everyone off the cent because they got two touchdowns in garbage time against Arizona. All of a sudden they got an onside kick. Like it's just that game wasn't close for for two and a half hours.

No interest in betting on the Panthers. Don't care what the numbers are. Can't do it. So the Falcons minus five and a half. I'm sorry, minus 250. we could put it with the Ravens Money Line Ravens against Detroit Ravens Money Line

we could bring the Falcons line to plus two and a half all to adjust it on Fandau and that is minus 112 and that fits that fits in our little in our little parley spot Ravens Money Line Falcons plus two and a half

it's minus 112 Is there any scenario under which Detroit with Goff it's an outdoor game It's in Baltimore. It's a Monday night game. Camel gets them revved up.

Van Nuoy out. Is there any way they can keep up scoring-wise with the Ravens? There certainly is. Do you have another suggestion for us? Money line-wise. Yeah. So we agree the Falcons in principle

should be in this. Yes, we do. We definitely agree. So could I, what if I offered you, if I could take the Falcons down to two and a half, minus two and a half with the Packers in Cleveland? Do you think that the Chiefs are going to start season 0 and 3 with a loss against the Giants? You really want to back the Chiefs? Just on the money line, just to win. right let me look at it's the best defense the giants will have faced by quite a bit honestly

the giants played Washington and they played the cowboys in the first two weeks i can't believe you're talking this until this that's minus 103 well tell me no it's fine i'll i mean i like your logic of what's throw all comments cents out, are the chiefs going on three? Is Andy Reed and Patrick Mahomes going to go into the Giants Stadium and lose to Russell Wilson

and your boy Dayball? How about this? Are the Giants going on three? Sure. Sure they are. That was a good one. I enjoyed it. All right. So that's what you want to do?

Give me, what's your favorite pick. What's the ringer 101 7? Oh, my pick for that? Yeah, give me your favorite. We covered it. I mean, we've already included it. I know we covered it, but let's hear it because I bolded a bunch of games. What do you got? I love the 49ers. That's my favorite pick by far of the

entire week. I think the cards are fraudulent and this is, you know, it's not like the 49ers are, you know, gangbusters, but I think it's just a nice orderly, tidy win. for them. We could also put the Seahawks in. Like laying the seven and a half against the Saints is ridiculous,

but Spencer Rattler is going to go into Seattle and win his first game straight up as a starter. Are you talking about putting them instead of the Chiefs? Yes, yes. I'm just offering other alternatives to you. Do you think that the Saints, now the Saints defense has been, you know, decent, not horrible. Do I think the Saints are going to win in Seattle? No.

Do you think the chiefs, do you, right, okay. Am I worried about the chiefs in Giant Stadium? Yes. Okay. I am a little worried. Well, we could do an alt-line, an alternate spread to get this down. We could do Seattle to like one and a half, right? And that will get us to where we need to go.

Yeah. Yes. Atlanta money line Seattle minus one and a half is exactly minus 120 fine so we could do that instead of the chiefs

fine okay I'm convinced I'm surprised you're worried about the chiefs but it's fine I am worried about you don't think I should be worried about the chiefs

well I mean against the spread is one thing it's a whole other thing about them you know they can't lose to the Giants this week that really hurts their season

all right want to do the Chiefs, that's fine. I think you're right. It'll be more fun too if they lose and we can be like, oh my God, I can't believe we took the Chiefs. So you have the 49ers. Oh my God, we took the Chiefs. Like, well, you know, it's funny that we're debating it. Well, it's a pretty sad statement on their season. I have the Pats. Are we throwing the Jags in here? I'm convinced. I like it. So our fifth one, we can do you like the Cowboys, the Rams

the uh, you don't want to do Titans or Jets. No, can't. Bengals. Bengals plus three. I love the Bengals plus three, but, you know, then we look at ourselves in the mirror and said we bet on Browning on the road. Like what do we? We bet on Browning against Brian Flores.

Right. Are we sure the, he has beat Flores before. Browning has. Are we sure the Eagles don't have a little. people aren't giving us enough credit we have to lay the smackdown kind of stuff I'm fine with leaving them alone

I kind of don't really want to I don't feel super convinced that we should mess with them even though I think the Rams are the right side I kind of don't want to mess with that one well we're running out of teams because then that leaves the Seahawks nope that that leaves

we could do something with the Cowboys and the over we're what we're doing totals well i mean if we wanted to use our parlay for that or we could just do the cowboys minus one and a half i'm fine with the cowboys minus one and a half i mean i think this bears team their whole secondary is is out like half of them are out for the season and i like i asked you earlier nate tell me one thing that you've seen out of the bears they can't run the bar one good touchdown against the Vikings in week

one. Right, to start the game. The dramatic stark difference between the first series of the game for the Bears and what Caleb Williams' numbers are after his completion percentages through

the roof, the efficacy, you know, all of the EPA stuff for him. First series of each game has been on point. And then that's it. He's barely a 50% accurate thrower of the football for the remainder of games. We're making the Cowboys your pick

and we'll make the 49ers a joint pick. Okay, good. And then I'll take the Pats and the Jags. And then we'll agree on Falcons chiefs together. All right, let's do today's Ringer 107. It's brought to you by Fanduel. Ringer 107, 4 and 6 after two weeks. The picks,

House loves the Cowboys in Chicago. The case being I haven't seen one thing I like from the Chicago Bears. fair enough Dallas could throw the ball Dallas has this is one of the great kicker mismatches too

where we have Aubrey on one hand the greatest kicker of all time which with this new kickoff roll it's like they're guaranteed three points every time they get the ball and then God only knows this kicking for the Bears this week so Cowboys minus one and a half in Chicago

grabbing that we are grabbing the Jags minus one and a half at home against Houston they've been a soap opera all this week I think it actually helps them. This feels a little bit of a kitchen sinky type game for them, and I'm not a believer in Houston at all. All right. Then we have the Pats plus one and a half at home.

They're a home dog against 42-year-old Aaron Rogers, who has been bad anytime he's pressured against a Steelers defense and especially a run defense that has looked pretty abysmal. They're missing dudes. They're missing High Smith, probably Joey Porter. They weren't 100% healthy begin with, T.J. Watts on a milk carton at this point. Left side of the Pats line looking better. Look out for Trayvion and Henderson in this game. I liked how the Pats, something's happening with them offensively. We've seen Drake May when he actually gets protection. There's something pretty good in there. So Pats plus one and a half. It's not a homer pick. I picked the Pats to have the worst record in the league

last year. I actually think the Pats might be pretty frisky for the next couple weeks. 49ers minus two and a half. We don't even know who the quarterback is. Is it Brock It doesn't matter. It's a back chance. I don't care because. I've seen enough of the Cardinals. Yeah, we've seen enough of the Cardinals. We've seen enough of their backups to the backups, debacks.

So 49ers minus two and a half. And last but not least, we're doing a little parley, money line. Atlanta Falcons, we believe, will absolutely positively win in Carolina. This is a game in week 16. I'd be nervous about it, not week three. I just think too many weapons. And Carolina is terrible. I think Carolina is the worst team in the league.

And then House really wanted to. put the Chiefs in here. I'll take it. I do. I'll own it. I really want to put the Chiefs in here. Yes, I do. God damn it. Andy Reed versus Brian Dayball. Patrick Mahomes versus Russell Wilson.

Yes. The Chiefs cannot go 0 and 3. That was another thing you said. Maybe even a little kitchen sinky for the Chiefs, not wanting to go 0 and 3 heading into, you know, this is like one of the easiest games in their schedule. So that will be our Ringer 107 for week three. Hopefully we can get over 500. All right.

That was today's Ringer 107. It was brought to you by Fandall. Remember, lines and odds are subject to change. How's how you feeling about the Quipper situation? It seems like it's now 50-50 whether the other owners want to punish them. It feels like the vibes coming out. And it also is the case for sure that Silver seems. fine with this lingering

over the league into the season. I think he's going to take his time. Yeah. I think he wants to do this correctly. He's not going to rush to judgment because people on NBA Reddit or I've said he hasn't decided what to do yet. I think this is going to take a while.

But not, I don't think he's stalling. I think he's going to do a real ass investigation and try to figure out what happened so he can punish them correctly. It looks like the timeline is sufficiently in advance of the All-Star game so that if the punishment includes taking away the All-Star game from the Clippers, they could give it to the Lakers of all things, still keep it in L.A.

Everybody's already got their travel plans to L.A., but that would be one of the ways to punish the Clippers. Well, I mean, that would punish the people going to the All-Star game because Staples Center sucks, whatever it's called, that's crypto. It's like a double A arena compared to Intuit. I'm just saying, that really suck. Timeline-wise, it seems like that's sort of roughly it, right? If you give the law firm until mid-January,

if part of the punishment for Balmer includes that? Too much smoke. Oh, I agree with this. I still don't know what happened, and I still want all the facts to come out. But there's just too many payments right around time when Kauai needed a payment and not looking good for the clips. What did you think of my theory?

Like one of the things with the punishment should be they should just move to Seattle and call it quits. Just like we tried. Since 1984, we've been trying. We're just, it's obviously just never going to work here. And we're just going to start over in Seattle. And we'll leave the Intuit. We'll sell it to the Lakers.

Bomber would have to, so they sell Intuit to the Lakers. The Lakers get to play into it. And Balmer has to build a brand new intuit in Seattle. That's his punishment. Yeah, that's his punishment. He has to build a new arena. stadium in Seattle. You've to put the Aspiration Dome in Seattle.

With trees, with fake trees everywhere. Aspiration 2.0. Carbon trees. Yes, I love it. I mean, I did. I did. I'm all the way. He's fine with Seattle. I mean, you know, the whole Microsoft thing, it all makes sense. It could be a kind of hero. You take a villain and turn him into a hero.

That's the punishment. I was thinking, I mean, I'm not the first person to make this point, but this Kawhi, the entire thing of going into business with this dude, all the stuff it cost them, all the players in the draft picks, plus this scandal. It has to be the most damaging transaction in the history of the league. I don't even think you could compare it to anything. Wow. The most damaging transaction in the history. It's already retroactively one of the worst trades of all time. It's not worse than Luca. It's not worse than Luca. They end up with Cooper Flag. They don't get Cooper Flag.

But in a roundabout way, at least somewhat worked out. Would you trade Anthony Davis? All right, just forget all the dumb reasons behind the trade. Would you trade Anthony Davis and Cooper Flag for Luca? Fuck no. No. How strongly can I put it? All right, what if I threw Max Christian?

Fuck, no. What if I threw Max Christian? Have you bet on the NBA? Oh, you can't bet on now on MVP. Luca, I got him at 7 to 1 this summer. I'm loving that ticket. Luca is going to win the goddamn MVP this season. That's what it is?

I don't think it is that anymore. I got it this summer. He looked great in that Euro thing. I'm looking right now. Hold on. Awards. Unbelievable, I've not looked at this. SGA plus 150, Yokage plus 350.

Luca down a plus 380. See, a great, great price for me. I'm happy. Closing line value. I can put the ticket. it in a frame and say, oh, I had a back win. The best odds are Yonis at 12 to 1.

Because he ends up on a Knicks. No, just bucks in a week conference, him putting up like a 32, 12, and 6, like single-handly dragging them to a three seed. I know it's only September 18th. It's only two MVPs, two in a row, that's it.

People will be fine with us waiting a month to talk about the NBA. But I just want to ask you, who do you think is the second best team in the East? I think it's Cavs, Nix, and whatever you want drop off, right? Okay, okay. Is that the correct answer?

Who do you think it is? I like the Knicks better than I like the Cavs this season. The answer to me is the Cavs, but I just wondered if you had a wild card. Fandall has Cavs to win the East plus 230, Knicks plus 320, and then it goes Orlando plus 550, Hawks 9 to 1. Those Hawks odds, we were on that. Remember when it was like 17 to 1 or 18 to 1 for the other than to win the East? Detroit.

I mean, the funniest thing is after you get past Orlando, then you immediately go into the Atlanta, Detroit, Milwaukee territory, but then somehow Philly is in there at 14 to 1, like they have any chance. I did enjoy Skinny and Bede though. Did you see Skinny and Bede? No, I haven't. Oh, he's skinny. My timeline right now is great. I'm thrilled.

Good best of luck. I wish him the best of the luck. He seemed a little dubious. Yeah, I would say Cleveland, Nicks. And then what's interesting with the West, the Lakers still have the fourth best odds and the Quippers still have the fifth best odds, even though we don't know if there's going to be like,

God only knows. Like, what if Kauai's contract just gets voided? No, they're not doing that. Minnesota has the six best odds at 12 to 1, which I do not fundamentally understand. Minnesota, to me, is either the third of the fourth best team. They have to be.

It's either them or Houston in the three spot. That's right. There's no question. How do the Lakers have better odds of Minnesota? The market. That's all. Dumb Laker enthusiasm. Dallas 25 to 1 get exciting for you at all?

No. San Antonio 30 to 1? Nothing? No. The Angelo Russell's playing guard for the Mavericks. Come on. I was going to actually start NBA homework next week. I've done nothing.

I'm in the same boat. I haven't done anything either, but... Yeah, we're like within five weeks of the season now. Yeah. All right, House, happy gambling this week. Good to see you. I'll see you on the Ringer Gambling show on Monday and on this pod in a week. Good to see you.

Can't wait. All right, that's it for the podcast. Thanks to Joe House. Thanks to Gahel and Eduardo as well. I'm going to be back on Sunday night with Cousin Sal. and you can see me on the Prestige TV podcast on Sunday night talking about Task Episode 3 as well. And new rewatchable is coming Monday airplane. So that is the schedule.

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