The Bill Simmons Podcast - The Philly Decade, Lamar On Fire, the Best Game Curse, NBA Awards, and Guess the Lines With Cousin Sal

Episode Date: October 23, 2023

The Ringer's Bill Simmons is joined by Cousin Sal to discuss the Eagles' win over the Dolphins, Rams-Steelers, the Ravens trouncing the Lions, Colts-Browns, the Patriots' shocking upset win over the Bills, Chiefs-Chargers, Raiders-Bears, and more (2:08), before guessing the lines for NFL Week 8 (51:29), and closing the show with Parent Corner (1:23:09). Host: Bill Simmons Guest: Cousin Sal Producer: Kye Crichton The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming, please checkout theringer.com/RG to find out more or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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It is 8.30 Pacific time on Sunday night. Cousin Sal is here, as always. He's wearing a nice, fresh Oregon hat that I think you probably bought probably this weekend. You went to visit your son? Smells very new. Yeah, I went to visit my son. I'm not happy with the way my hair looks, and I think the hat's an improvement.

So what am I going to do? We just watched Dolphins-Eagles just now. And at the same time, Rangers-Astros was happening. And it really felt like, I don't know, it felt like a great October sports night there. And then Texas blew it open in the end. But next week, we'll have basketball. There'll be baseball going on.

It'll really feel like October. The Eagles, though. So right as I start sending texts to Eagles people in my life wondering what's going on with Hurts and what's going on with this team, and then they just turn it on and they win by 14. It's weird. I test-wise versus the stats and just looking at the standings and stuff. It's a team that doesn't seem like they have all their shit together and yet it doesn't matter

because they have so much talent. They can just kind of pick and choose and then all of a sudden they win anyway. I don't know what other team in the NFL is like this. Do you see that too? Yeah, absolutely. And it's a bummer because I think you agree. The Dolphins are, I don't know, favorite team to watch if you have to cut everything else out, right? Best offense, so much going on, like dynamic, Tyreek Hill, anything, Tua. But when they play a game like this, when they go to Buffalo, they're just going to get beat in the trenches. And like what you said is it doesn't really matter if you're so physical Philadelphia offensively or defensively and like two is getting swallowed up in the pocket on third and ones and

where Philadelphia could just run that push push like it or not. It's going to move the chains every time. So yeah, it sucks. Yeah, the less flashy team wins and they happen to be in my favorite team's division, but that's what's going to happen in January. 10 turnovers for Hertz. He had eight off last year.

There's times where sometimes, and I don't know whether he's protecting his body or what's going on, but he'll kind of duck away from taking hits, which is smart, and then he'll have weird throws. I texted Solak today during the third quarter, and I'm like, are we going to find out that Hurts has had like torn rib cartilage since week two? Or, you know, he doesn't look right sometimes. And then in the fourth quarter, all of a sudden he looks great. And I don't really know what to make of it.

And I can't get a feel for it. But on top of it, they have this tush push thing that in the big drive of the game, they're able to get two straight fourth and ones on their own side of the field. I know you and I have talked about it. You've talked about it incessantly. And at the same time, it feels like it is the most important NFL invention in the last five years, this play.

Yeah, for sure. That nobody can stop ever at any point. If he does, he'll crack the ribs. And nobody else can do it. I know. It's weird. And we likened it to the Tom Brady thing. There was no reason why Tom Brady should convert fourth and one and a half

every single time, you know, physically and everything else. But except they have their shit together, the Eagles. They really do. And if he does have cracked ribs, I hope it's from his own teammate smashing him over the line of scrimmage there. Yeah, it was just wear and tear on the back of his body. Yeah, stop touching me. Yeah, so they're performing the Heimlich on him like every eight minutes. everybody yeah it was just wear and tear on the back of his body from seven guys pushing him yeah so

they're performing the Heimlich on him like every eight minutes so so I guess if you're taking the takeaway from the Eagles

is nice when they needed to have it they're also supposed to win but the A.J. Brown piece of it the fact that they traded you know a first round pick

basically and then they paid him and I don't know, he's one of the four best receivers in the league now? Is he one of the three? He's somewhere on the shortest possible list. I have him on multiple fantasy teams, and it's gotten to the point where I'm just expecting 100 yards and a TD every game. But that turned out to be one of the better trades, I think, of the last 10 years. Just kind of took him from Tennessee. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that was ridiculous.

And he is such a great possession receiver. And it's like, it's scary, too, because you'll forget about him, too. You probably put Justin Jefferson in the top three, and then every time Cousins drops back to pass or any snap, you're like, all right, this has to go to Jefferson. Otherwise, it's going to go for nothing

out of this offense. And then eight tush pushes in a row. And then you see A.J. Brown's like, oh, my God, I forgot about this guy. What? He's got 120 yards. It's nuts. So, yeah, dynamite. I like, yeah, there's like four different kind of catches he can make, too,

which I think makes him stand out because they can throw those bubble screens with him. They can just put him right over the middle for seven, eight yards. It seems like whenever they want. They can send him deep down the sidelines, which he seems to love. Then that kind of deep over the middle with two guys on him and he can make plays

anyway. He has I think the biggest bag of any of the receivers right now. I thought you were getting personal. I don't know. Oh, I got it. I'm not in the locker room with these guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I hate this team. I don't know. I don't even know what to say anymore. Like, you know, Miami have, what, 10 or 11 penalties? It's just like a mind fuck, too, when you play them, too. You can't get out of your own way when you play against them. Kyle, don't turn on the TikTok camera for this. Has Philly replaced Boston for most interesting sports city?

Look at all the shit they have going right now. They're about to make the World Series. They have this Eagles team that made the Super Bowl last year and it feels super relevant again and is definitely going to be a Final Four team, worst case scenario. And then they have this NBA team with this James Harden saga that God only knows how he's going to sabotage things over the next

month. And then you look at my team, my city where I have the, you know, we have a great NBA team, it looks like. And then other than that, completely forgettable across the board. I think Philly's kind of grabbed the mantle a little bit. I don't like it. I don't like it at all, Sal. That's not

good. And it's not good for their fans because their fans are supposed to just hate the other team. Not supposed to like their team. So it doesn't matter if their team's good, right? I don't know. It's a bummer. Although, I'll say that they were in this position last year too, right? Philly's won the World Series. Eagles won the World Series.

Eagles won the Super Bowl. You've got to win one of these. This is the 2020s. This has kind of been the Philly decade. I don't like it. It's upsetting to me. And fortunately, the Sixers, it seems like they're going to go in the tank. But I've got to say they have great crowds. The Phillies playoff crowds are way up there.

That's about as good of a baseball crowd as you're going to get. It really feels like if they can have like a do or die game or a must win game or a clincher at home, you feel like they're going to get it. And whatever happened with Bryce, you know, pretty special. Like to sign that guy from another team and he becomes the signature athlete

in your city. We had a little bit of that with Manny Ramirez where we kind of took him from we paid for it, but took him from Cleveland and he kind of became one of the symbols of that run. But pretty nuts that they just took him from another team and he became what he became. It's a great crowd whenever they,

I mean, I thought the Rams crowd today was dynamite too against the Steelers. I thought they really showed up. It was really loud. Yeah. Yeah. It's been proud to be from LA. Yeah.

I have a, I know you don't want to talk about Philly, so I'll move on. I have a Tyreek question for you. What's your all-time receiver list for receivers you've watched? Just where you're like, that guy's fucking amazing. Because for me, it was always Rice number one and Moss two. for receivers you've watched, just where you're like, that guy's fucking amazing. Because for me, it was always Rice number one and Moss two. Yeah.

And then a drop off. And then some people would be like, T.O.'s three for me. I'm like, cool. T.O. is like an absolute franchise murderer and was a huge head case. And you couldn't trust him. And as the years pass,

the stats will be great. All the fucking drama that he brought to every situation he's in, that stuff will kind of die off. But for me, I think Tyreek's unequivocally a three now for me. Every single game, you just feel like he's going to have 250 yards as you're watching it, right? Yeah, I think so.

Yeah, unstoppable. Tyreek over Calvin Johnson, that type? I'm trying to think where you would put him. For me, he's definitely over Calvin Johnson that type yeah I think like where you would put him yeah I think I for me he's definitely over Calvin Johnson Michael Gallup is three four I'm trying to see where I would put these people yeah I think you're right I think you're right I think he's got to be number three although if you look at like Antonio Brown who's now a punchline he had like six of the best seasons you'll ever see in a row. But in terms of presence and being unstoppable, Rice, Moss, Tyreek Hill.

It's a good three. That's how I feel. I think Sharp could have gotten there in the Packers way back when in the 90s. And then he hurt his neck and he basically only had like a six or seven year career. But I thought in the 90s, I thought other than Rice,

he was the second best guy. Your guy, Irvin, was great. There's no question. That team was loaded. We've had some good ones over the years. But Tyreek, the speed, how he just tilts the field

over and over again, how scared the other team is of him, how much space he opens up for everybody else. I think he's three. I don't think he'll ever get over Moss or Rice for me, though. I'm trying to think who could pass him, though, space he opens up for everybody else. I think he's three. I don't think he'll ever get over Moss or Rice for me, though. I'm trying to think who could pass him, though, now at three. I mean, we've put

Justin Jefferson up there before. Now that we haven't seen him for a few weeks, we've kind of forgot about him. Yeah, for the right now, but Hill's done this now for six years since he was on the 18 Chiefs. I can't remember how many years he's been in the league. He'll be stride for stride with

two defenders. And then if the ball hangs up there long enough, he's now seven, eight yards past them. It's a nice little advantage. Puka. He is? See that catch he made on the sideline today? It was pretty great.

Before the Rams realized they were going against a force greater than any satanic force or anything, the Pittsburgh Steelers. You want to talk about that? Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. They're 4-2. I've

watched every play of all six games. I have no idea how they're 4-2, but they've hit the point now where I feel like they're going to win when there's no signs. Like that guy missed the extra point today for the Rams and made it nine three instead of 10 three. I'm like, oh, here we go. Steelers come down. All of a sudden it's 10 nine. They have five first downs because they get the TJ Watt, you know, the pick that sets up the touchdown. And you're just like, here we go. They're doing this. And we've seen this before because this was the Eli Manning. Danny Heifetz was the first person to point this out. This was the Eli Manning recipe for years and years

that I can't believe that team's winning. What the fuck just happened? He only made two throws. How did he do it? They're 4-2. I totally believe in them and I feel like they're going to go 12-5 and have a negative point differential. Well,

the good thing is we're making money off them, right? We've been, and we saw them plus, I mean, I thought they'd be favored last Sunday night. I thought they'd be favored, but they're not.

So we're, we're doing that thing, but also just taking them because the Steelers, but I found the gem and I gave it out on ring of wise guys, Rams, first half Steelers to win the game 10 to one. Uh, you know, I1. I'm positive that their bullshit is going to pay dividends.

10-1, I think it'll hit like three more times. You're right. That TJ Watt interception brings it down to the eight. We see some separation from Pickens on a receipt. Will the one drive you wait for all game and it happens? And then that terrible spot at the end that didn't give them a chance. That was beyond terrible.

Really bad. McVay also probably should have had a timeout left. I know, but is it important to be like, hey, listen, we could get this right, but we'd rather teach you a lesson, coach, to save your timeouts. The spot thing bothers me more than missed pass interferences because it's an old man jogging eight yards and he has to see between 20 bodies.

And then he sticks his foot in the mud and says, here, this is like a surveyor from 1835. He's like, this is where your property ends, sir. There's a chip in the ball. Isn't there a chip in the ball? What's it for? It's funny that we figured out Wimbledon. We figured out in US Open, we figured out we've in u.s open we figured out how to measure serves immediately whether they hit the line or not in football

which seems like it would be really easy to just have some sort of magnet that was attached to the chains the other thing that was weird about that for the people who didn't see it the steelers did fourth and one they had the lead there's probably like a little more than two minutes left and they run the QB sneak play, kind of the Brady play where you kind of put your head down, but you go left. But he slipped. And he fell on his knee, and his knee

went down. And it wasn't one of those when you're watching it where you're like, oh, I wonder if he got it. It was like you knew immediately, oh, he didn't get it. He slipped. And then they come in with the spot, and they're like, oh, he might have gotten it. And they did that. I couldn't believe it. And I'm rooting for the Steelers, but I was like, oh my God, worst spot of the year. I thought they deserved to win anyway, but that was pretty tough for the Rams. We need some clarification and I get it

because McVay didn't have timeouts and it wasn't actually the two minute warning yet, even though it did wind to that after that. But is there a ref in the sky? Is there this guy in the sky? Or is this everything has to go back to New York? I feel like we're told three different things. It's a bummer because that could have been overturned. But you're right. 10-1, we hit.

Let's just keep doing it. You know who else would have gotten that fourth one? Eli Manning. He would have fallen down a half foot in front and somehow would have gotten that fourth and one. Eli Manning. He would have fallen down a half foot in front and somehow would have gotten the spot. The Rams kicker was the MVP of this game for the Steelers. He missed two longer field goals.

They were like 50-yard field goals, but he missed them both and then he missed that extra point. And then Tomlin just, you know, he threw away the challenge. He screwed up a challenge, which is the Tomlin staple. The Steelers do this thing, though, where, you know, everyone shits on Matt Canada, the offensive coordinator,

but maybe it's somewhat intentional. It's like he lulls them to sleep. His terrible plays for, like, almost two hours, where you're like, man, oh, my God, really? The run in the line again? The screen pass where the guy almost gets tackled behind the line?

You're going to run that one again? And then all of a sudden, the roof lifts up on their offense and there's daylight and there's guys running around and open receivers and George Pickens going nuts. I wonder if they feel like

they can only get away with it for like a quarter. So they just kind of lull you, lull you, lull you. And then near the end of the third quarter, that's when they run the real offense. There's no other explanation. Again, I've watched every Steelers game.

I haven't seen a team that can look like shit. And then all of a sudden, it's like, oh my God, they figured it out. But I think they know. I like the analogy that he, well, whatever the theory that he lulls him to sleep it's like Sade when you're getting a massage Sade

Sade am I saying it wrong? it's only a 40 year old reference but no they'll play Sade in a massage and then you're

you know three minutes later you're asleep and then the massage is over like oh I don't even know if anything happened I get my back rubbed or not that's it House loved this story

I gotta bring him in well one of the things I was almost thinking of it compared to like boxing or MMA or something where the guy is like the first couple rounds is like you know he's just kind of picking spots waiting waiting but not like doing what his

eventual game plan is. And then by the seventh round, he flips. Bernard Hopkins used to do that. Remember, he would always like, first half of the fight was always different than the second half of the fight. Maybe I'm giving the Steelers too much credit, but I'm with you. That 10 to 1, it's like you found some sort of inefficiency in FanDuel's betting strategy. That 10 to 1 is crazy because the Steelers, this is what they do. They look like shit for a half and then they come back. I think they're going to

be there. I feel like they're getting, I think Pickett's getting a little bit better. They're using Jalen Warren more. They have really good players on both sides of the ball. And I think, I don't know, I think they're going to be there. Now, they're not going to be there like the Ravens. The Ravens were the big winners today.

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If you go week by week, who had the best game of the week? And then what happened to them the following week? Remember, I was talking about that smoke theory. So week one, it was the Niners. They beat the Steelers 30-7. I was like, Niners, Niners, Niners. The next week, they had that really tight game to the rims. I don't think they covered,

but it was like that back and forth game. And I was like, oh my God, is my T's in trouble? Week two, Cowboys-Jets 30-10. The next week, you lose to the Cards. Week three, Dolphins, 70. Broncos, 20. Oh, Dolphins. Oh, my God, this offense.

Who's going to stop it? Next week, they lose to the Bills by 28. Week four, the Bills. Bills, 48. Dolphins, 20. Oh, my God, the Bills. Best offense in the league. They lose to the Jaguars next week. Week five, Nin Bills. Bills 48, Dolphins 20. Oh my God, the Bills. Best offense in the league. They lose to the Jaguars next week. Week five, Niners 42, Cowboys 10.

Holy shit. Is this the best team in the league? Next week, they lose to Cleveland. Week six, I had to struggle a little to find a week six team, but I think it was Lions 20 bucks six because they were the ones where coming out of week six, people were like, the Lions, that's a legitimate

contender. Stephen A had them number one on his first take NFL rankings. What happens? They lose to the Ravens 38-6. And now this week, it's Ravens time. The Ravens are going to be the story this week. Lamar

Jackson, is he the MVP? Is this the best team in the AFC? Have they unleashed him offensively, all these stats? Mm-hmm. They're at Arizona next week. They're at Arizona next week.

I don't care. That's a teaser. I'm a trend guy. That's a teaser for me. Don't care. Well, I've gotten killed on teasers. No, but listen,

I think we're all over this, though. We're pretty smart about this, right? We like the Browns over the Niners and then Deshaun Watson screwed up our thinking because he went out like on Tuesday and like, all right, well, the last backup was bad for the Browns, but we're usually on this. I'll say this. I think this was

as far as thorough acts ass kickings from a good team to another good team. I think this is one of two games. Ravens beating the Lions and the other one I really think was the Bills beating up on the Dolphins. You could say the same about the Eagles today, but they had to pick six. Just like on both sides of the ball, dominating. You can maybe even throw the Niners, Steelers in there now that the Steelers are

quote-unquote good, but those are two of the three biggest. It makes me think, definitely don't want to face this Ravens team in January right now. Right now, I'm saying that. They had 503 yards against Detroit. The game felt over when it was 14-0. It just felt like this is the Ravens, awesome Ravens game we've been waiting for. Dan Graziano said, he wrote after the game, that Lamar had 246 passing yards when under duress on Sunday.

It is the most yards under duress by any quarterback in any game since 09 when ESPN began tracking quarterback pressures. In the first six games of the season, Jackson had 235 yards under duress total. I think he could sue also if you're under duress. Yeah, that's true. Completing passes. The reason I'm bringing that up is because watching it, I thought the Lions

were getting pressure on him, and it wasn't like they were just killing them. The Lions were actually trying to do shit. They couldn't really block for Goff, which I was surprised by. But yeah, I thought Baltimore, they looked great. The Zay Flowers thing really seems like it's important.

They're using more play action. The offense just seems more fluid than it did. All the fixes that they did over the years. Six pass catchers over 30 yards. They had 146 yards rushing. Lamar went for 357, just perfect, like a 155 rating, and gave up zero sacks from this Detroit defense and pass rush that just terrorized other teams.

And you're right, Goff could not get going at all. He couldn't. He was 18- you're right. Goff could not get going at all. He couldn't. He was 18-1 to win MVP Goff today. And I think that ship has sailed. Lamar is 7-1 on FanDuel right now. I think those are the best value odds because Hertz is up to 5-1. But if you've actually watched the season,

I think Mahomes is the favorite at plus 260, and he finally got going today with Kelsey, which we'll talk about in a second. Two is plus 420. It feels like it's narrowing a little bit now. I still like Lawrence as a dark horse at 20-1, just in case the Jags, especially with their schedule, if they just kind of rip off some wins.

Yeah, so Lawrence has the opposite of what Lamar Jackson has probably in front of him, right? Lamar Jackson probably has a bunch of cold weather games. Trevor Lawrence has some indoor games in division. So Lamar's going to have, he could be great and have like 100, 160 yards passing in some of these games coming up. Yeah, he has this kind of sneaky Arizona game that I'm just saying now, I don't like the smell of it.

Because after that, they have three straight home games. Seattle, Cleveland, Cincinnati, all at home. And then they go to LA to play the Chargers and they have a bye week. So this Arizona thing is like, come on, we'll go to Arizona. We'll take care of business. Then we got three at home.

And I really think this was part of the problem with Cleveland today. I think Cleveland thought they just had to go in and, ah, we'll freaking kill Minshew and it'll be fine. And they were asleep from the get-go. The only guy who was awake on their entire team was Miles Garrett.

But with the Ravens, so if you go wins by division, remember we were talking before the year in our preview, and I was like, could we get four playoff teams from the AFC North? I think we had that conversation. I think we each said there would be three. Half game to everybody. They lost ground. Yeah. Everybody has, the Bengals are 3-3. Everyone else has a winning record. AFC North has 16 wins so far, which is the most. Your division has 15. Do you want to guess what division has the least amount of wins? Are you going to surprise me and say,

no, it can't be the AFC West. It's, well, the NFC South. I don't know. It. It's, well, the NFC South. I don't know. It's your least favorite division, the NFC South, with 10 wins total. NFC North, though, with 11.

And I got to say, man, after watching that Packers-Broncos game and losing a little money on it today, that NFC North is... Yeah, I thought Denver and the Pats, one of my betting strategies this week was Denver and the Pats are now in a death race for the first pick. Both of them won.

And both of them had a chance to lose down the stretch and instead zagged the other way and went for it. But yeah, the AFC North, clearly I think the best top to bottom division. It's the only division with four good teams. Yeah, for sure. And that NFC South, I don't best top-to-bottom division. It's the only division with four good teams. Yeah, for sure. And that NFC South, I don't really want to discuss it, but it's like, that's the, I mean,

that Thursday night game, Carr, okay, they made a comeback and everything, but that was miserable, miserable TV for two and a half hours. And Al Michaels should not be subjected to it. The whole division is a check-down quarterback division. It really is. And the Jacksonville Defenders said that like, what's the big deal?

Carr always does his check down and we figured that out early. So, alright, same with Desmond Ritter, who might be the worst of the bunch. Like, fumbled three times today. Two at the one yard line. Baker, I don't know how many chances we're going to give him. I bet him every single week and he falls short. And who am I forgetting?

Oh, the rookie, Bryce Young. Yeah. He's not there yet. Andy Dalton might be the best quarterback in the division. Yeah, Taysom Hill. Take him snaps. Yeah. Well, you want to take a stab at picking the NFC South winner?

No. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, sure. The Falcons, who heading into today were, I think, plus 160 in the division. Right. And this is after the Saints lost. Then they win., I think, plus 160 in the division. Right. And this is after the Saints lost. Then they win. Now they're even money to win the South.

Saints plus 190. Tampa's plus 350. But the aforementioned AFC North, Baltimore is even money now. Cleveland's plus 240. Pittsburgh's 5-1. Cincinnati's plus 650. Cleveland's a borderline cross-off to me because of the quarterback situation.

You can't describe how bad Watson was in that first quarter. Even if his shoulder wasn't hurting him, they had to make believe that it was. He took a big hit, and then he went into concussion protocol but got cleared. You can't say anything. Yeah, right. Everyone associated with the He took a big hit, and then he went into concussion protocol but got cleared. He had his head.

No, no, no, Sean. You can't say anything. Yeah, right. Everyone associated with the Browns seemed fine that their $230 million man was sitting out, including the $230 million man. He seemed good. He had a jacket on, indoor stadium. Not sure why, but they got very lucky in that game. That was the luckiest bet you ever made, right?

It was smart. You had Browns first half and Browns to win. Well, I had a million-dollar pick, so I had Browns minus three, so that hurt. In real life was the one I called in on Wise Guys for, which was Browns first half, Browns to win, Eagles first half, Eagles to win. That parlay was like plus 350. That hit. Nice. That was good.

I hit that one, and I hit my Steeler same game today too. I wish I could do million dollar picks on Sunday. Deshawn's 10 Browns games, including today. 11 touchdowns, 9 picks. He threw for 1,783 yards. He's averaging 178

yards a game. And they gave up three first round picks. They gave him a shitload of money. And on top of it, not exactly a popular signing. So I don't know if that's better or worse than Denver where they are with Russell Wilson. I mean, at least Russell Wilson, you don't

have the community turning against you. I think he's like a $51 million cap hit if they decide to part ways with him next year. But I don't know. But now, I don't know. We're getting very lucky too.

That uncatchable ball. I don't know. Is anything uncatchable anymore? Yeah, two. Let's talk about this because it's another rule now where I don't even know how to interpret it when I see it. Because they'll call it sometimes. The two rules that just seem to be arbitrary now are the defender not turning around on pass interference. They'll call it 90% of the time, but 10% of the time they just won't call it. And then the ball hitting the back of the end zone,

basically where the stands are, and there's still being a pass interference because the ball was in the air during the pass interference, but it wasn't uncatchable yet, even though it was about interference, but it wasn't uncatchable yet, even though it was about a split second away from being uncatchable. It just seems like they're making shit up as they go along. Yeah, it just doesn't make sense when you think about everything else.

If a ball is tipped, you could basically swing the receiver around by the face mask and sling them into the mezzanine. But if a ball is thrown and it's uncatchable, if Shaq is standing on Wemby's shoulders, we can't see more of this, right? And then they called it for the Chiefs a couple weeks ago against the Vikes, but then didn't call it today.

Very strange. I don't understand what happened to the Browns D in that game because that was the first game Very strange. I don't understand what happened to the Browns D in that game. Because that was the first game where it didn't feel like they were flying around like we saw in the other games. And one theory I had, I'm going to throw at you because it sounds like it's going to be an excuse. Does it have Sade in it? It doesn't have Sade in it.

I don't want to hear it then. Okay. Do you think that game, that Niners game last week, just took a fucking shitload out of both teams? I mean, Debo's out. Debo has a hairline fracture now. McCaffrey looks like

he's going to play tomorrow. But that was such a violent game. I wonder if both teams were kind of... We might have to tuck that theory away for the future, for gambling. If you watch a game

where you're like, holy shit, this is a violent game, maybe both teams are just stay-aways the next week. Because I thought the Browns looked like a different team, and I don't know what to make of it. It was violent before the game started.

There were fights. Now they got beat up. Gardner-Mitchell should not beat them up to the tune of 456 yards versus 316. They're outscored by a lot there. They gave up, I think, three 50-plus plays. Big plays. The guys were open.

It wasn't like, oh, man, lucky throws. These guys were fucking wide open. They gave up big runs. Taylor, I thought, was punishing them on a couple of the drives. And Minshew was taking off for 12 yards. Like, those aren't huge plays, but like 8, 9, 10, 11-yard,

you know, runs for Minshew extending drives was big. Yeah. I don't know how they won that, actually. Well, if you're a Browns fan, you're like, hey, guys, we're 4-2.

Can you just give us this? Do you have to pour water on us? Yeah, we lost Chubb. We lost our quarterback who we thought was good. Which, if I gave you a surprise division winner that's not in the division right now, in your four choices,

were the Seahawks at 4-2, a game behind the Niners, Steelers at 4-2, right behind the Ravens, Houston 3-3, a game and a half behind Jacksonville, or the Jets of New York at 3-3, a game and a half behind Miami, which one would you like? Seahawks, Steelers, Houston, Jets. You can only pick one. It's weird because I think the Niners are pretty much a lock in the West, but out of the ones you mentioned, the ones I could stomach watching

for a few hours are the Seahawks, right? But is that my pick at plus 650? Over the Jets, yes. I'll say the Texans. Maybe there's a little something there. Maybe just a little something. I know the Jaguars have put together a nice, impressive run here, and their defense is better than

I probably think, but plus 450, I'd say Texans. What about you? Texans. Yeah. I think that Jags car was so bad in that game on Thursday night. And in general, Thursday night games are stupid. But Jags 5-2. I could see them

doing really well and finishing 12-5 and whatever. But I don't think Houston's going to go away. I like that team. Jags might be the team that kills us. Kills us gambling. We're not going to give them credit. They played that Thursday game. They played the London game.

They seemed to play quarterbacks who weren't ready. They beat up on Gardner Minshew, right? And they're going to screw us all the way to the playoffs. Congratulations, Jags. I broke my rule. I don't bet on Thursday games, but I teased them on Thursday with the bills in the Seahawks. So I was like, oh, this would be great. Two weeks in a row. Why next week? I'm straight upping. I'm straight up the rest of the way. It's like,

I have to learn every year. Don't do these stupid teasers with the most obvious. There's no question. Oh, of course the bills are going to be the Patriots. And then meanwhile, the lines dropping and before the game, Belichick, um, yeah, turns out he's going to play his best five offensive lineman together. New strategy for us.

Oh, and we're going to play the two receivers that get open all the time. We're going to try that this week, board and pop Douglas. It's like, they, they finally did all the things we should have been doing the whole season. Meanwhile, I'm rooting against them because I want the draft

pick. Don't do that. First of all, you cry all the time about how your team doesn't make good offseason moves. You gave the old man an extension. Look how great that proof has been. He gets one every year. That was a fake story. How is that not? No one reported on that.

He's one of the biggest. Every year they add a year to his contract. They said a fake story. How is that not? No one reported on that. He's one of the biggest. Every year they add a year to his contract. They said a huge extension. You don't think it's big? All right. Whatever. They'll still get rid of him or trade him if they... Secondly, you're watching college football. You don't know who you're... You don't know what pick

you want here, what quarterback. Why would you tank? First of all, these guys work out 40% of the time anyway. And also, Caleb Williams' stock has dropped in the last three weeks. I know. I watched him last night on JetBlue Flight. I was not impressed. It was tough. I know. I went from thinking

he was the next Mahomes to wondering if he would be the first pick. Roe for your team. He's the next Jackson Mahomes. Roe for your team. I'll tell you this. The Bills take the lead late. So I'm like, this is perfect. This is the perfect loss. We'll be one and six.

Matt gets the ball. It's 0-13 and his last 13 is an underdog. He's had one come from behind drive in like the last two and a half years.

So there's no better scenario. First play, like a screen pass to Ramondre. It's not like we're going to beat anyone deep, the Pats. Screen pass to Ramondre. It's not like we're going to beat anyone deep, the Pats. Screen pass to Ramondre, the entire Bills defense falls asleep. He goes for like 40 yards.

We got guys downfield blocking. They just pick the flags up. So now all of a sudden, it's like, all right, well, I've seen this. Mack will take them to like the 18 and then not be able to punch it in. No, he actually punches it in, makes the play, and they beat the Bills. It was an encouraging,

maybe we're not as bad as our record win for the Pats, but I thought really discouraging for the Bills because their defense just is not the same. And I thought even Zeke Elliott was punishing them up the middle and guys were open on big drives. I don't think they might've lost too many guys. So I agree with you. And I know everyone's pointing to the defense, but they were stuck on 10 points for a long

time. The bills were like, why can't they score? Why can't they wait? All right. If they don't wake up in London, fine. We understand. They don't wake up the week later when they come home. But what the hell those, those guys seem to score in bunches, right?

It's digs gets three touchdowns a game, Gabe Davis, three touchdowns, or it just doesn't happen. And it was too little too late when they came back. Well, I wonder, is that a team? Because we got the trade deadlines. How are they four and three? That team that crushed Miami is four and three.

Yeah, if you were them, would you try to fix the defense or would you try to double down on the offense? Because just watching them going against them today, it felt like they were a receiver short. Like even you look at the stats, Kincaid was eight for 75, Diggs was six for 58, and then Shakir was four for 35. Gabe Davis was one for six. Dawson Knox one for 10. It's like they're missing that you know that third and seven possession guy. Like their version of they're not going to get

Puka Nakua but somebody you know that slot guy who can get open who they used to have. They had Beasley they had McKenzie.

Yeah, I just don't know who it is. I mean you pick the carcass of the Broncos who won today. I mean I'm hearing Patrick Sertan that would you know

definitely straighten out some defensive needs, but I guess a Judy or something like that could help. Kendrick Bourne would actually be perfect for them. He had another good game today. I don't know. I can't tell what the Pats are going to do because on the one hand, the AFC,

it does feel like maybe 9-8 is going to be a playoff seed. I hope they go the other way and become sellers, but I hope this wasn't a fool's gold win for them. Pats were 24-96 rushing. Mack only had five incompletions. He had zero

turnovers. The only turnover the Bills got was on a strip of Kendrick Bourne. I'm betting you're over win total. Do you know what it is? Don't do that. I'm betting they're over. I'm betting you're over win total. Do you know what it is? Oh, don't do that. No, I'm doing it. Please don't do that.

I'm doing it. There's what? There's 17 games this year? Don't do that. And six wins? They're not going to go six and 11? Are you kidding me? I veto that.

Another big storyline. Are the fun chiefs back? Have they put the fun back in Kansas City? What do you think? I think the Chargers 27-28 ranked pass defense makes everyone look good. Remember Dak Prescott? He

looked good against the Chargers defense last Monday night. I don't want to go too crazy. Also, I lost money on that game. I thought that was one where the Chargers would come through. I really was just zooming in on Tay-Tay's bracelets the whole game, so I didn't watch. You tell me.

Did they look good? Well, here's the question. I mean, the Chiefs were wide open all over the place. They're paying their expensive cornerback to play for the Patriots, and he actually played the entire game today. It was one of the reasons that Pat's secondary looked pretty good. He had a pretty good game today. So I don't know what they were doing with that.

But I hesitate to ask you this. If a coach got fired tomorrow, we're in firing season now, and it was Staley, would you be surprised? They're 2-4. Yeah, I know. But I feel like people are blaming him. I know it doesn't matter what the public perception is.

I think Herbert's starting to finally get some blame here. Finally, a little bit. You got to get wins now and then. It can't all be Staley's fault, right? What is his career record now? Is he... It's really good. He's under 500.

27 and 28. Nerd hero, Justin Herbert. Yeah. And some really poor decision making. Now, the Mike Williams piece of this cannot be understated because it's like the Chargers offense with him, without him.

There's a million stats. Eye test backs it up. Keenan Allen is great, though. Keenan Allen's really good. If you look at his His year this year That one last game he has 40 something Catches already Their number one pick that you waved in one of our drafts

Quentin Johnson You waved him right Yeah I got rid of him I know of course He's all over the place I think the Chargers are dead because we're We're hitting week eight, which is right at week eight, week nine is when we have to figure out,

all right, who is the two and five team that somehow rallies and makes the playoffs? Or who's the three and five team or two and six, whatever it is. So the Chargers would be a natural possible pick because of Herbert, but I don't see it at all. I don't see it at all. I mean, from a strategy standpoint, from a coaching standpoint, from a mistake standpoint,

their defense sucks. I don't see it. Is there any game, is there any matchup you'd be very confident? Would you take them in an eliminator position in any matchup? Panthers come to town. The Panthers probably have more fans.

I don't know. I wouldn't take them at all. What I'm mad about is it was me, you, and House this time last week. We tried to put together a division parlay when Kansas City was like minus 450. Now they're minus 1250. We had it. It was the three obvious ones. You wanted to go to the Eagles though.

Chiefs, Lions, and Eagles. Yeah, you wouldn't do it. I don't want to do the Eagles. Chiefs, Lions, and Eagles. Yeah, you wouldn't do it. I don't want to do the Eagles. All right, we'll take a break. A couple more games to discuss, then we'll do

the Lions. One last thing on the Chiefs. They didn't show Taylor Swift as many times as usual, but are those

natural reactions with her? Did she get a, a reaction coach? Oh, or is she like genuinely excited by maybe doesn't know anything about football. So each experience of having something good happen is like,

she's genuinely that excited. What would you put the ratio? Are you afraid of the Swifties? Me even asking this. Don't put this on social, Saruti. No, Saruti, go for it. I don Are you afraid of the Swifties? Me even asking this. No, I'm not afraid of them. Don't put this on social, Cerruti. No, Cerruti, go for it. I don't even care about the Swifties.

But I don't think she knows what a natural reaction is because she has thousands every night just screaming, screaming at the top of their lungs when she's there. 24 hours a day. Yeah, right. Yeah. Yeah, it's the Beatles all over again. But yeah, I don't know.

I'm not as concerned about it. Go crazy, Rudy. Get it up there. I'll tell you this, though. Yeah. I thought the best celebrity spouse-girlfriend reactor ever was Pete Sampras' wife, Brigitte Wilson Sampras. Oh, right.

Yeah, right, right, right. The fist pumps with the cheers just look great all the time. I always liked when they cut to her. I felt everything was genuine. I don't know how much of it was acting, playing in the cameras, but she sold me every time. She was the goat for me.

Taylor Swift's getting up there. It's pretty good. See, now they're going to put this on social. She's really into it. What? Because she's next to Mahomes' wife, right? So now she can't. She has handshakes with her already,

but she really seems like she gives a shit. I think these two wacky kids might stay together a while. You think so? Yeah. Yeah. That bracelet says a lot. I always thought when Aniston dated, uh,

Pitt, right? Where Pitt's like, when they started going out in like the late nineties and Pitt's like, I can't believe I got the girl from Friends. This is the hottest girl in America. I fucking pulled it off. And she's like, I can't believe I got Brad Pitt. He's the hottest guy in America.

I can't believe I pulled it off. So that's part of like the relationship. The electricity of it is just one side. Deep down, you're still the person when you weren't famous and nobody knew the fuck you were and you probably had an ugly stage and you're you're just looking at it like i can't believe i'm dating this person and i wonder with with taylor swift as famous as she is and she's dated all these actors it's kind of cool to date one of the most famous football players and he's in these games like 180 yards today like 12 catches and a touchdown. And then he obviously thinks it's cool because it's Taylor Swift.

I think they stay together. Do you think Brad Pitt was like, he wasn't rooting on Aniston during the Friends tapings? Like, yeah, they're at Central Park now! Fist bump! You tell Ross who's boss! Ridiculous. Falcons-Bucks was the dumbest game of the day.

Falcons did cover but Ritter is a heart attack I don't know he had three interceptions last week three fumbles this week and I just fumbles at the one two of them and no Bijan this whole division is a disaster you try to figure it out he was just not feeling

well that's why he's on the field but not getting the ball they didn't tell us what was going on for like an hour and a half either. Right. And then the answer was he's not feeling well. Bears Raiders. The Bears quarterback today who has affectionately nicknamed

T-Bag. Classic Joe House. He's 1-0 and he looked pretty confident. This Div 2 kid. If you remember last year with Purdy, I ended up getting infatuated and doing a Wikipedia deep dive and giving you a little five-minute dissertation. I did not do that for T-Bag. No?

He's got to win me over for one more week. But he did look okay. I can help you out. Division 2 all-time leader in passing yards. His father was an arm wrestling champion. 18 times, 11 times right-handed, 7 times left-handed. And the only other

thing I know about him is that I had to bid $11 on him because in that weird league you set up, we have to start two quarterbacks and 30 teams were off. So David Chang, I don't know. I mean, he's a football expert. He's on Amazon every Thursday night. So he put this rule in effect,

and I had to start Tyson Bajan. I had to start Mac Jones against the Bills today, and he somehow had 22 points. It was very exciting. Just two notes on this game. One is, Donta Foreman, who was awesome two years ago in Tennessee,

then he goes to Carolina last year, and in the second half of the year, he's one of the five best running backs in the league. A big part of their identity is they almost made the playoffs. Then once again, just available, the Bears sign him. They don't use him for five weeks. He has this huge day-to-day.

It's just like he's somehow, every year, he's the most underrated running back in the league. I have him. I picked him up in all my leagues. I don't know why Vegas started Hoyer. I thought that was really weird. You wanted O'Connell? Yeah. Hoyer's like 40.

Was this going to be the year he turns into somebody? I just don't get it. Jacobs last year was 4.9 a carry. This year, he's 2.9 a carry. Last year, 12 TDs. This year, zero. And I think McDaniels was in.9 a carry. This year, he's 2.9 a carry. Last year, 12 TDs. This year, zero. And I think McDaniels was in the first coach fired. Oh, interesting.

Well, no. They won two in a row before this game, right? That was dispiriting, that game. It was really bad. They looked like none of them wanted to be there. That jumped out to the TV as like, there's something wrong with this team game. You know what I like about it, though?

Now, is there anything better for sports talk radio that now there's a quarterback controversy in New York and Chicago, and it happened within the same hour? Oh, yeah. Ty Taylor and Ty Bajent now are like, hey, maybe we could have saved some money with these guys. What's a word that's like

less exciting than a controversy? Hmm. Sade? Is it? I don't know. It's like a semi-controversy. Yeah. Are you talking about

controversy? You know, I got to say, I think I'm done making fun of Collinsworth because now everything he ends with the S is an SH. It's very tench out there. He'll say tench for tense. Oh, you think he's taunting you?

No, I think he might have a speech impediment. I don't want to go after him anymore. I think there's something actually wrong. Giants, Washington, Rivera is the other candidate for first coach fired he's got to be in there, Howell had six more sacks he is up to 40 for the year, he's 36 away from

David Carr who has the all-time sack record, 40 and we're not even at the halfway point yet and he's, every week feels like he's getting worse, like it just he either holds the ball too long or makes a weird decision or they're, they're really bad. I like the,

I like, but when he throws, don't you feel a little confident? Except if you, if you didn't have all this data saying the ball's probably going to be incomplete, just the way he throws. I feel like he looks good.

I used to feel that way about like Brian greasy. I'm like, Oh man, I got it. Like if you paused it right as he's released. Yeah. My God, that's a good play.

That's good. Someone's going to catch that and run an extra seven yards. Not the case. Guess the Lions week eight. Sal, we have 16 games next week. Yeah. For some reason, we had six buys today, which was pretty nice because the TVs were actually pretty manageable today.

Right. But next week, we're back to 16 and we have a Sunday night game that is appalling that we're going to get to. Monday's not great either. And yeah, I want to make a plea to the league now, please stop killing the fantasy players with six buys. Like you said last week and none this week because the buys forced a lot of

people, including me to pick up Zach Evans. We've got a nice big fat zero. Zach Evans, who on Thursday was a Rams starter. And then inexplicably, Saturday night was a third stringer. And now there's no buys. Henderson has been on the Rams. I think he was on the Dick Vermeule Rams in 1999.

I think so. He's 27 years old. Thursday night, Bills-Bucks in Buffalo. Interesting game for both of these teams and now Tampa wins this right now we have to think they're good again

like it's already hated tell you this Bills are only four and three I know like that this would be a terrible

oh my god we've lost two games in five days. We just lost to Mac Jones and Baker Mayfield. What the hell is going on with us? I don't like this spot. America, don't gamble on this game. I have the Bills favored by five and a half over Tampa.

All right, I get this one. I said six and a half. It is seven and a half. By the way, I should mention you're cheating got you to four, one, and two. Or you're one, four, and two going into week eight. All right.

I didn't cheat. I'm up one. Go ahead. That Bill's line is too high. Don't you think? Yeah, three and three at four and three. Thursday night? The Bucs just don't score.

They just don't score. Everyone in that division just takes so long to score. I was talking to a friend. How many teams could drive 75 yards? Four? They could do it against good defenses. How many do you have? Yeah.

Miami, Philly, San Francisco. Is that it? And Baltimore. And Baltimore. I think Baltimore could do it. Kansas City? It's five? Yeah.

Yeah, I guess. All right. All right, five. No more. No more. Not the Bills. Sunday marquee game. It's tough because we have five good games, but no great games.

So I'm going to go with this one. 49ers-Bengals. Yeah. It's in San Francisco. Bengals coming off a bye. 49ers are playing on Monday night, tomorrow night against Minnesota. Legitimately, McCaffrey's going to play.

I think this is just under where it would be teasable. I'm going to say 49ers by five and a half. You got it. You nailed it. I said four'm going to say 49ers by five and a half. You got it. You nailed it. I said four and a half, and it is five and a half. That's a nice spot for the Bengals. That is so tough. Good underdog money spot. That's one of those.

If you like the Bengals, just bet them. Just bet the money. Bet the plus 200, whatever it is. Nice rest advantage too, right? Yeah. Buy. They have 49 nights playing Monday. Pretty good.

The watchables, they got four. Dolphins Pats is a watchable, right? I think it is. Sure. Yeah. When did they play? They played 24-17. They played a night game, right?

It's in Miami. And I'm going to say Dolphins by 7.5. We both whiffed on this. I said 7.5 also. It's 10.5. Oh! Let me see if it moves. That's too high. Man, I

just don't think the Dolphins defense is good enough to give them a 10.5. Do you? They're so weird. They're just so weird, right? Like, did you – I mean, you played them tough the first time. They might just be one of these tough defenses that the Dolphins have trouble with.

And you're going to double Tyreek Hill like you did. You held them to 24 last game. It might be high. We have guys coming back too. Yeah. I hope I don't get sucked back in with this Pats team. I was already scouting quarterbacks. Did you see, did you watch a lot of that game?

The Pats game? Did you have it on? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Sure. Barmore was out of control today. It was one of the most dominant defensive line performances I think we've had in the last five or six years. He was unbelievable. He even had a late hit on Allen at one point,

but he was just all over the place. He was collapsing the middle of their line. It was really interesting. What happens to this? You've been kind of waiting for that for a while. It's such a weird defense that comes alive sometimes, and I don't know. It's like sometimes they want to impress alive sometimes. And I don't know. It's like that.

Sometimes they want to impress daddy and sometimes they don't, they don't care. Well, I think the way the move is that just run it up our throats, but I don't think the bills are really capable of doing that. It was also, Josh has always been a guy that is moved around on the pats and used his legs and he's kind of owned us.

I'm shocked that the Pats won that game. Yeah. He's also, have you noticed on the deep balls this year, he's been terrible? Like he kind of, he's chucked up more balls for grabs it feels like this year

than any other quarterback in the league. Next watchables, your team, the boys of Dallas, home for the Rams. I can't tell if the Rams, definitely one of those, they look good for about 35 minutes teams. And if they're playing another really good team,

they kind of run out. But that first half looks awesome. Oh, man, I wish I hadn't gone and get some Rams, but then it kind of peters out there. The running backs are pretty rough. They can't run the ball. I will say, maybe we should say something nice about the Steelers for like 10 seconds. Stafford seemed like he was

under siege for a lot. He was. The first half, he was comfortable. The second half, he was not. I have Dallas by five and a half over the Rams. You're going to get this, although this move, oh, this is interesting. It was six and a half. now. Yeah. I have Dallas by five and a half over the ramps. All right. You're going to get this. Although this move, oh, this is interesting.

It was six and a half. It went to six. So you do get it. Would you guess? I'm sorry. I said seven. I went higher. I thought it was going to be,

you know, they actually probably would have more fans out here than where they are. That's a good underdog straight up money bet. Next one, watchables. This was in consideration for the Sunday marquee game. The Jaguars at Pittsburgh.

I couldn't have thrown this in the tic-tac zone fast enough. I have the Jags favored by one and a half. That is a guy. I had one. It is one and a half. It is the Tic Tac Zone. It's right there. They never say one.

Have you noticed that? It's always one and a half. It's never one. Now that I'm clued into that, I'm going to figure that out. One and a half is right. What are you going to do? Steelers plus seven and a half? Can I predict Joe House

on Wise Guys on Sunday? What's he going to do? I like the Steelers in a very tasty underdog tease to seven and a half. He's definitely he'll tease the Steelers. Lock it down. Yeah.

He's been good with his dog picks too. Yeah, that's... Man, the Steelers. Lock it down. Yeah. He's been good with his dog picks, too. Yeah, that's... Man, the Steelers, they're going to win that game and they're going to be 5-2. We're going to have no idea how to beat the Jaguars. Oh, my God. Last one. Seahawks

home for the Cleveland Browns. And I have no idea who's playing quarterback for the Browns. I went Seahawks three on this one, and it's probably two and a half, and I have regrets already. You're killing me. I said four, and it is two and a half.

So either way, you get it. How crazy is that, that the 230 million, I keep saying the number, quarterback, we have no idea what it is. Fandle's like, we don't care. We're putting a line on this. It's the Browns. They're going to Brown. We know you'll bet on this anyway.

Yeah, exactly. Come to Fandle. Shouldn't it be higher? Shouldn't it be a little higher? Can I make a PJ Walker confession? I don't think he's that bad. I don't think he's that bad. I don't think he's that bad.

He came on a little bit, but his last couple of drives. What were those numbers? 178? He's not to compare him to Russell Westbrook, one of the best 65 NBA players of all time. But there is a little bit of Westbrook to him. Like he'll complete a 30-yarder down the sidelines in stride to Omari Cooper, and he'll hit him perfectly.

And then the next play, he'll just sail it over David Njoku's head. And you just don't know what's going to happen play to play with him. But he does make plays, and he can move around. And I think I would rather have a below average or mediocre quarterback who could move versus somebody like Derek Carr. Okay. So where do you put them? Do you, would you have traded him for

Gardner Minshew today and going forward? Like is that Brown's team be more confident in them to get to 10 wins with Gardner Minshew or PJ Walker? So what do we make of Minshew? Because last week I was saying how they should start another quarterback and then bring him in in the second quarter like a baseball. What do they call it? Not the opener, but like the long reliever person. The holder, the stopper. What is it? Right. But he was good today though. So maybe he's like one of those baseball starters where there's going to be one start, he's just going to give up

nine runs. Then the next start, he throws a three-hitter. And then the next start, he throws 120 pitches. And then he gets blown out again. That just might be who he is. Very strange, right? He's not good enough to be good over and over again, but every once in a while. I thought he was really good in the Browns game.

Over 300 yards. He had 30 on the pocket. I would have thought he had 60 yards rushing. It was only 30, but yeah, he took off. They're big rushes. Yeah. Right. And he was good.

Fairly watchables. Packers-Vikings. This probably could go in the poop factor. I guess the Packers season is on the line. Packers home. They're both 2-4. Right? Yeah. This just feels like a Packers

by 3 for me. I was way off on these. I said Vikings by 1.5 and it is Packers by one and a half. So you get that. You have a six to two lead. A little worried about Jordan Love. Now you are.

We did a division long shot. That was, I like the Packers. You like the Vikings. We were both wrong. This is a, this is a torn up tickets ball. Well,

we were so hell bent on a team coming in second place in this division. And nobody has to. Second place could be 6-11 easily. He was bad. He's bad in the game today. I mean, you're playing Denver. And you get zero points in the first half. He missed throws.

I didn't think he looked very confident. There was... One of the things I like to look for when you know a quarterback's not doing well is the reactions from the receivers when the ball is either too short or too long. And he had one late to Watson where he chucked it deep. And it was just eight yards away from where Watson was. And Watson just kind of slowed down with that. Jesus Christ, man.

What the fuck? He's like, one of those. I was like, oh, that's not good. But on the other hand, he can move his legs. There will be moments where he looks okay, but I would put him behind Ritter, right? As many turnovers as Ritter has, I still

think he's more competent than Jordan Love. Well, here's what's distressing. First of all, they're playing Denver. Nobody should lose to Denver. And they take the lead on that double doink touchdown pass to, was it to Jaden Reed or something? Right. Like, oh, that should be it. You have Denver on the ropes. They just broncoed the hell out of you here. And they give up the field goal and can't come back to win. Yeah, that was Love's go ahead touchdown was he threw it so far behind the guy that it hit his hands and bounced into the guy behind him. Pretty rough.

Titans-Falcons for fairly watchables. Only because this is it for the Titans. I think they are now in must-win territory. Coming off a bye. Mike Vrabel just got elected to the Pats Hall of Fame. Falcons

I think are fairly watchables at worst because every game they play Comes down to the Fourth quarter it feels like And weird things happen So I have the Titans by one and a half This really moved

This moved a lot I checked this Three hours ago I had Titans by one And it was one and a half But now it's Falcons Minus one and a half Jesus

Did something happen? Is B.J. Robinson traded to Tennessee? Why would the Titans so much? The Titans aren't good, so that might be part of it. Yeah, but this looks like a classic. Oh my God. Only

14% of the money is on the Titans. We've been here before. By the way, the top seven, I know you love these, but 70% or more money on the top seven public games, all lost. Is that true? True. Absolutely true. Oh my God. Let's take a break.

Colt Saints. What did you think of Derek Carr's performative Thursday stuff? You talked talked about a little on Cousin Sal's winning weekend just redo your take for us here yeah I mean he's going after Olave like screaming at him with his arms in the air making

goal posts with his arms and everything after a pass and they showed the pass and it was really like I think it hit a cheerleader in the neck or something like what was his route supposed to be five yards out of bounds. Yeah. That's when he stopped the route.

Because otherwise, the ball would have landed five yards out of bounds. Don't they watch tape together on Monday? Like, hey, all right, you can yell at me, but now we're going to watch tape on this as a team. And then what? We're going to see how bad that pass was. He's another one where they have to kind of show him a picture of what he looks like with his helmet on.

And that mustache should be like, you're supposed to be the leader of the team. Can you have better facial hair? Can you think of a handlebar mustache or just full beard or just clean shave? Right. This ain't working. Uh,

check down for check down quarterbacks in that division. NFC check down South discount double check down. We got to figure it out. We were on cash bar car last year about how bad he was on

the Raiders. And it was like change of scenery. I thought the Saints were going to win the division just because I couldn't find

another team. I thought their defense, they go nine and eight. They still might win the division, but he's been done for two years.

The cash bar is closed. It's closed? No tip jar? No. Is that on the hip? Yeah. I mean, we didn't like the coach, but we thought the better quarterback

in the big signing would rule the division. Now I'm not even seeing that. It's probably going to be Atlanta. Ugh. God. I guess. Ritter. Ritteritter's gonna have 35 turnovers we're gonna be able to bet against them in round one

this could be the worst this division's been like even when Brady was a couple years ago or was it last year? nothing's worse than last year that Bucks team was so bad last year come on I can't watch these teams I know but Sam Darnold versus Brady for the AFC South Brady's like already mentally retired

that was the worst I made this a pick'em I said Simmons take this game from me I'm making this a pick I said Colts by one alright well you'll get it it's Colts by one and a half this is a demolition

look at another tic tac Jesus Eagles are at Washington Everyone's going to make a big fuss About how the Washington always plays These guys well and blah blah blah I think the Eagles are favored by 7 points We get to split one here

I said 6, it's 6.5 Didn't they play each other There's two games where the teams play each other Two weeks ago There's a couple matchups where two games where the teams play each other two weeks ago. There's a couple matchups where you feel like the teams play four times a year. I think this is one of them. I think the Eagles and Washington play once a month. We could spread it out more than two weeks.

But Chiefs-Broncos is the same thing. We just saw that on Thursday night. Well, we had a game, was it this week or last week where the they already played the two games after six weeks one of the divisions

did that happen already yeah there was some one matchup where that's it they already played twice in week one and week six

alright two more in the fairly watchables Chiefs Broncos this is in Denver just saw this yep yeah. Just saw this. Yep. Yeah,

we just saw this one. I have the Chiefs favored by seven and a half. Probably too low. Uh, we have to split this too. I said nine and a half. It's eight and a half.

Can't game any ground on here. It makes me sad when there's pressure on Wilson and he spins out of it and then just gets tackled. Yeah. It's just kind of a bummer.

That was like he was he was the best at that versus any like nobody else was as good as him in that specific situation of he's in a lot of trouble spins out buys time

and now he just gets he gets shoestring tackled every time, and it makes me sad. Right, and Hurts did it great. Yeah, you're right. He can't see downfield, and he doesn't have the legs to scramble anymore. I think if they lost today, that would have been it. I think he goes to Stidham.

He's like, I'm done. But they end up squeaking it out. Well, they'll lose this one. Here we go. We talked about it earlier. Ravens Cardinals. This is a weird trend of the best game of the week

or the best performance of the week just shit in the bed the following week. I have Ravens by seven and a half. Do I get? Yes.

Yes, I win one. I said nine. It's eight and a half. I mean, the Cardinals are going to do this twice. They're going to beat the Cowboys and the Ravens. And they're going to get the number one pick? Is that possible?

Come on. Well, I mean, isn't Carolina like... Yeah, no, you're right. They haven't won either, but they have the extra game. But they don't have their pick, though. The Cardinals don't have their pick? Oh, Carolina. No, the Carolina doesn't.

Yeah, yeah. Poop fact at two games. One of them is the Jets and the Giants. I'm sorry. Jets-Giants games are usually at least a little bit fun. This is not. I'm putting this in the Tic Tac Zone. I have the Jets by one and a half. I did too.

The Jets are a hefty three-point favorite that met life. Wow. I guess because they're not really home. Technically the road team even though they're not.

Right. Right. That's tough. We don't have to bet that, do we? Wait, we have to talk about the Jets here for a second. Let John Jastrzemski just bet the hell out of this. We don't have to bet that, do we? Wait, we have to talk about the Jets here for a second. Let John Jastrzemski just bet the hell out of this.

We don't have to bet it. Jets. So they have the Giants this week. Home Chargers on a Monday night. At Las Vegas on a Sunday night. They could be 6- three heading into at Buffalo on Sunday, November 19th. And then they play

the Black Friday game against Miami on Friday, November 24th. They play Vegas on a... Why is Vegas getting so many primetime games? They won this Monday. We saw them last week.

When was this a good idea? There's just not enough good teams. There just aren't. I don't understand it, my friend. All right. The other poopfecta game. It is Texans at Carolina. Yeah.

This game, the Panthers are just an automatic poopfecta at this point. I think this is Texans by three and a half, and I'm going to bet the Texans. I said the same thing. And don't let us down, Texans. I know you want to here, but Simmons and I just said we like you

potentially to win the division. Don't go crap the bed at Carolina. Don't do it. And I'm not going to be scared by the extra half point either. I'm betting the three and a half. I'm just doing it. Didn't you look into that?

Like the three and a halves were... Dead. That was the way to go? I looked into it. Although there's been some cover but not wins with the three and unders the last couple weeks. That's been pretty devastating. The Falcons had one. This week, the Browns.

Right. They were favored by three. They went by one. Hate those. All right. I already clinched a week, but we have two left Sunday night. Chill me.

Sunday night is, this is the worst Sunday night game we've had in a long time. Chargers bears, which I'm sure they were all excited about when they scheduled it. It was a Herbert and fields. This would be great to the young, young best quarterbacks in the league. This game sucks.

They should flex it. It's even Collinsworth. They might have to like actually give him extra coffee so he has the proper Collinsworth excitement. Oh, you sure enough. Show that picture of me

when I was young again. Come on. You know what I'm doing. Let's go to my son. What's he doing? Chargers, I have minus six against Teabag and the Bears. Oh, wow.

I had six and a half. It's nine and a half. Oh, come on. That's an absurd. A zillion Bears fans. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Come on. This would be 60,000 Chicago fans.

I know, I know, but there's no way we could bet the Bears again. Right? I just don't think the Chargers should be favored by more than seven over anyone in the league. but there's no way we could bet the Bears again, right? I just don't think the Chargers should be favored by more than seven over anyone in the league. I'm going the other way. Let's put the Chargers in every money line parlay. No, definitely not.

No, but listen, but then we're just done with them. Then if they beat us, we're like, well, that's it. We are never, we'll never, ever speak that. Definitely not doing that. Monday night. Man, this is of their name. Definitely not doing that. Monday night. Man, this is another stinker. I know. When was this a good game?

Detroit is home for Vegas, and I'm going to say Lions by 8.5. You went a little rich there. I said 7. It's 7.5. Wait, hold on. 6? Yeah, I won. No, you won.

Lions seven and a half, huh? That's too low in my opinion. I feel like there's a teaser in there for us. Especially Lions coming off a loss. Embarrassing loss. Right. Hmm.

Raiders an embarrassing loss too, but they're always an embarrassing loss alright you won that's you're cutting it to 4-2-2 I hate this I see how this is going you caught up by Halloween yeah

how have you enjoyed the baseball playoffs I can't believe what the Astros are doing I took both underdogs I took the Rangers and I took the Diamondbacks. I'll probably lose the Diamondbacks. Have you seen a team that can't win at home? The Astros are terrible at home. The whole regular season too.

I can't believe the Rangers even have a chance to go to the World Series with their bullpen. Henschen and I are in that AL Keeper League and we've had most of their bullpen this season. We had LeClerc. We kept him. He lost his job. He couldn't get it back. He drives me crazy. We waved him. He's out there closing giant games. I thought

I tweeted this on Friday night. I thought the Friday night game was the best baseball game I'd watched this decade. The Altuve-Homer? Yeah, the Altuve-Homer. There was the bench-clearing non-brawl. There was an energy to that game that was really fun, I thought. Doesn't it bum you out?

The pitch clock helps. For sure, yeah. Those would have been five-and-a-half-hour games. But Altuve's going to be maybe the greatest postseason player of all time when it's all said and done. The two guys that you... I mean, there's a bunch of guys now, especially in these playoffs, but Altuve and Schwarber,

you just always feel like they're going to do something. Alvarez is like that. What's his face on the Rangers, the one who hit the homer tonight? But Garcia... Yeah, there's a lot. Yeah. Rolos Garcia, yeah.

Yeah, there's a lot of good boppers out there. I don't know what the Phillies are doing with Schwarber. You have a leadoff hitter batting 204, but it doesn't matter. yeah there's a lot of good boppers out there I don't know what the Phillies are doing with Schwarbo like it goes again like you have a leadoff hitter batting 204 but it doesn't matter I know

it's 47 those hits are home runs yeah playoffs have been great I've really enjoyed them that's good I think Phillies Texas

will end up having like a 16 to 15 type crazy game that goes 14 innings and homers and comebacks.

And I'm still rooting for the Phillies because I have the World Series bet, which I don't really, I know you did. Yeah. Did you have any last minute, uh, NBA bets or no? Yeah,

I was going to, uh, well, are we done? I was going to promote it in a second. Um, yeah, because we have our preview.

I mean, you did 17 hours of previews and forgot to pick the preview. I mean, you did 17 hours of previews and forgot to pick the awards. I mean, what the hell? I'll throw you some samples. Austin Reeves, most improved, 18-1. Like that? Spider Mitchell.

Spider Mitchell, best clutch, whatever that clutch award is, 17-1. He goes right in there with those games. I think they had 45 games. I vote for that award, and I still don't understand what it is. You better figure out what that is. Don't even think about it. Just vote for Spider Mitchell.

And Clippers, no playoffs, I thought, plus 190. I like that one. Although that Steven Adams thing hurts, though, right? Hurts that bet, now that that came out? No, because I'd be hard-pressed to think the Grizzlies would just not make the playoffs. I also think they can make a trade because Robert Williams, Verno and I were texting about today with House. Portland's got Robert Williams. They're going to trade into somebody for picks. There's people out there they can get if they need to. Yeah, I didn't really do awards picks because I feel weird picking stuff when I vote on it.

Oh, that's true. That does sound like a douche. Too late. Way too late. No, for the odds, I pointed this out when we did the preview. Booker was 22 to 1, and I just thought those were really good odds.

That's falling to 19 to 1. 19 to 1, I still think is solid for him. But listen, Harry, God bless him. He picks guys like Booker every year, but those guys don't get votes. You have to get votes, right? It's so important.

The key would be if they were a one seed and he was like 30 points a game and running their offense and stuff, and Durant missed 25 games. Last three winners, three seeds or lowers, right? Yeah, it's tough. This is the first year I don't really have out of all the favorites a guy that I love.

I think Curry's as 14-1. I kind of like those odds too because I think Golden State's going to be good. Tatum seems too obvious at plus 750. And Bede's out. I don't think the Bucks are going to be good enough for Giannis to win MVP. See, that's my pick. Only because I think he's going to have to step it up

and play defense. Because that was an offensive player for a defensive player, that trade. Yeah, there's weird vibes. And that team just got rid of their lead assistant. And then Joker's sitting there at plus 432. The one that I think there's been heavy action on

Wimbinyama, who's minus 145 now. Everybody, yeah. I watched a lot of that on Friday, that Warriors game. His odds that night for defensive player of the year were 14-1. They're down to 12-1 now. But my favorite bet is the one I sent you guys on Friday night.

I don't know if that's changing. Is it blocks? Yeah, it's Wemby to win the blocks per game title with Curry to win the made threes title. And if you parlay it together on FanDuel, it's like 8-1 and they have some parlay boost for it. Oh, that's good, yeah. Curry made threes.

Basically, he wins every year unless he gets hurt. So you're betting on, you're almost betting on him not getting injured over whether he's going to actually. Well, what's the threshold? Is it 65 for this too, or no? I think it's 55. So he's minus 150 for three-pointers made. Yeah.

And I think he only has to play 55 games to hit that. And then Wemby for blocks, that's still 4-1. I think that's I think he's, first of all, I think he should be the favorite. I don't see any scenario where he doesn't block like 3.5-4 a game. Did you see the running, the

Mavs had a practice where they were holding shit up in the air to try to emulate how big his reach is. Interesting. If he plays 30 minutes a game, he's going to get three to four blocks a game. So I thought the four to one for him was pretty great. Yeah, if they play enough, it's the only thing you have to worry about with these rookies, right? For any of these qualifications.

I really like the Reeves most improved. I think that's a good one. Thank you. Because especially like if LeBron misses 25, 30 games because he's, you know, Did great in the World Cup coming up.

Obviously, his playoff numbers were like three points higher and he's bringing the ball up the court this year. That's a win. What about, I'll give you Jokic. I mean, you could bet these

like the player awards though, right? Because you're not, but like I thought that I'll give you Jokic. I mean, you could bet the player awards, though, right? Because you're not, but I thought that was good value on Jokic for assist leader. I'm going to go with that, plus 750. He's gone up almost every year. So he'd have to get like 9.5 assists a game. Yeah, 9.8. 9.8. I mean, Halliburton was

second. Harden won it last year, but who even knows if he's going to make it through the year, right? Yeah, Jokic, I mean, it just goes up and up, and I could see him being even more unselfish. It's a good number, though. People are going to laugh, but I kind of like Pritchard for sixth man of the year.

But the thing is, they have Derek White eligible at sixth man of the year on Fando at 23-1, but I think he's going to start. They don't even have Pritchard odds. I think Pritchard's going to play a lot. They screw with that, though, too much. It wasn't Westbrook, like, the top for that. And then as soon as they made him a starter,

they just took him off that. I wasn't sure. Coach of the year, Dagnall on OKC at plus 750 is the favorite, and that's also my favorite one. And I also like, where's Quinn Snyder? Quinn Snyder is...

He's barefoot. Look for the feet. He's way down there. 20? 20. Yeah. 20 to 1. Because if he turns Atlanta

into like a 48, 49 win team, which they have the talent, especially in a weaker conference, I think he's going to win it. So I thought those odds were too ridiculous too. I'm a little bit excited. I'm excited a little bit for the year.

That Wemby blocks with the Curry made threes is my favorite. I can't believe that's a twin. Yeah, we did a bunch of make the playoffs, miss the playoffs. I still,

I think the Mavs are going to suck. That's one of my ones I'm banking on. And I like the Timberwolves. Well, I bet the Mavs win total under instead of not making the playoffs. But I just feel like that karma's got to catch up with the Cuban for quitting on the season last year. And they're just, they're old anyway. I don't know.

They're both, I mean, could they, Luka. And they're just, they're old anyway. I don't know. They're both, I mean, could they, Luka and, also they could be, they're done this year, right? They have to get a new contract? Yeah. Well, Luka's there for a while,

but, you know, I think he's got maybe a year or two years after this one. The Celts-Lakers to make the finals is 22-1. I thought that was pretty good too. Oh, that's a fun one.

Yeah, because the Lakers are going to be I thought that was pretty good too. Oh, that's a fun one. Yeah, because the Lakers are going to be good. All right. It's time for so you're doing all this what show? Doing it. This will be

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So maybe we get to say goodbye. So get to lunch. He fills us in. He's having a great time. And you don't realize how much freedom you have in college. Like our kids could sit on the couch and be on their phones and order DoorDash all day. I'm like, oh, you got the world. It's crazy. No, college is a whole different story. It's like, I got like 10 friends. They're all on the floor. We go all over the place. We all have nicknames. It's like, oh, that's great. It really hit me.

And it was good catching up. And then we go to dinner with his friends and the friend's parents who were there. Lovely time. I ate my face off. We're like a Chinese dumpling house. I'm like, I don't care. Melissa is like, please. The dumplings are great in Oregon.

Oregon. Yeah. She's like, don't eat like a monster. I'm like, no, I'm doing it. I don't care. I heard the dumplings are great in Oregon. Yeah. She's like, don't, don't eat like a monster. I'm like, no, I'm doing it. I don't care. So I embarrassed everybody. And then, uh, we have the game and we're separate from him. He's in the student section and my wife buys these, um, chip clips. We went through his room and she noticed he needed like chip clips. you have an open bag of Doritos, I'm explaining chip clips.

You know what it is. It just clips right on. And so she brings them to the game and she's like, all right, we got to find them. I'm like, yeah, we have to find them before we say goodbye. He's like, oh, it's going to be... Then it's tough for him to meet us, to say goodbye. I'm like, oh, no, we got to go. We got to give him these clips.

We can't just leave with these chip clips. And so it's a real hassle to chase him down and for him to meet us out of the student section and for us to say goodbye. We could have just called and said goodbye and texted, but we got to give him this chip clips. And so when he's saying goodbye to us, he's like, all right, bye. And we're just like, take these, put these in your jacket, put these here. Okay. All right. Do you have enough? Do you have enough room? We'll take the cardboard off. And then, then you could fit this. And I could just see, he's like rolling his eyes internally on us. And he finally like hugs us and say goodbye. And I'm like, oh my God, we just turned into our parents there. We're forcing on him. It took a month. It was a month and we're already our parents. Like, no, you got it. My mother's

done this to me a million times. Take this quiche. Take everything. All the stuff that we don't really need. She's left us with stuff. And that was it. The nightmare is here. The thing I worried about the most were forcing chip clips on him when we didn't even at a freaking football game. He's got to carry

these things around. We all turn into our parents. It's crazy. It took four weeks. Well, the good news is he got some chip clips. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's not going to eat any stale fungis anymore. Those things like two more days now of life with this $1.98 chips that he bought. I know.

The status center. Thank God. 74 cents if he went to Target. Those pop chips might have gone stale if he didn't find them. We are pathetic. Did she cry? No, she was good. No, she needed this.

This was good for her. This really was in sync well with her premenopausal state, I thought. It went well. I actually flew back and saw my daughter. You did. A couple of soccer games. And I took her and her friends out to P.F. Chang's after the Wednesday game.

And it was the same thing. It was like, oh, she's got all these people in her life that she didn't know six, seven weeks ago. And they have all these jokes. And I'm just this parent that comes in and out. They like seeing me, but not for too long. And then you don't hear from them. It, uh, it's just funny. It definitely is takes some adjusting to be like, Oh, I'm that person now. I just kind of float in and out of your life. And when you need me,

that's great though. I accept it. I accept my job. We're like, uh, I don't know. It's like, we're like dime, dime cornerbacks where it's like, oh, it's third and 12. Get in there. Then we go in and we just try to play our zone for one play and then we kind of get out. That's what we do when we're parents in college. My parent corner,

so my wife, you know, we had four dogs and then our dog Willie, when my wife's dad died and her mom was by herself, so we gave her our dog, Willie, for a couple weeks. And then they just hit it off and Willie just kind of stayed there. And he's the only child in our house. He's super happy.

He loves it. And so we had the three dogs left. We have Olivia, who's like 15, who's going to be dying for the next 20 years. I always tell her to go to the light, but she doesn't listen to me. She's just never going to die. Then we have Jesse, the rescue dog, who's just a mess. She just kind of disappears all day. And then Murph, who I've talked about many times, who's a lunatic, who has his own Instagram account. So her mom went away for a couple of weeks. So Willie came back.

And Willie's living with us now for two weeks. And he hasn't lived with us for pretty much like a year. And it's kind of gone great. Like he's fit in. And I was thinking it's like a TV show when somebody leaves the show, like when John Travolta would leave Welcome Back, Cotter a million years ago. We were

growing up in their place, but then he would come back for the special episode. Like, hey, it's Barbarito. He's back. Or like when Ron Howard would come back. The shows we grew up with, people would leave and then they would come back. I don't know if that happens anymore because the show runs aren't long enough, but it was always nice when they came back and it's

nostalgic. So now Willie's here. I know he's not going to be here that long, but it's like special guest appearance. Like he's in the love boat anchor, special guest appearance by Willie. And he's just kind of, he's sleeping in our room. He's like fighting for spots on the bed. So this led to a big debate because as you know, dogs are stupid. Does Willie remember that he didn't live here or does he think he lived here the whole time? Ooh. Because he was gone for a year, but he's back and now it's like he never left. So does he have a memory of being in the last place?

Like how smart are dogs? It's basically a big discussion in our house right now. I think, I think it depends a little bit. Mine is really, really dumb. I feel like he wakes up and every day it's like he was plopped on this earth. Like really like you can't get to the front door.

He has to figure out how to negotiate which, um, which room to enter to exit the front door. So my dog really dumb, but then you'll see them like sniff all over and piss on things. So it's like they're marking their territory. So my dog really dumb. But then you'll see them sniff all over and piss on things. So it's like they're marking their territory. So there's some thought process in that.

But I don't think that matters. That's all instinctive because you could make a case dogs have no long-term memory at all. Because when you leave the house and you come back four hours later, the way they react, they have no idea how long you were gone. They can't believe you came back.

Yeah. But that can also happen if you're gone for 10 minutes. Like I'll walk out, I'll go to move my car, you know, because the parking meter person, I had to move my car to switch sides. So I'll leave and I'll come back like six minutes later and Murph's reacting like I've been gone for 10 hours. So I don't know if dogs have a long-term memory. Yeah, I think there's a comedian. I'd like to hear from the listeners on this.

There's a comedian that does something about this. Like when your dog jumped in the car and you took him to get his ball snipped, the worst moment of his life. And then three days later, he jumps back in the car just as excited. Like, no, that wouldn't that be a little bit of a caution. Right. He would think.

Yeah. Oh yeah. That machine. That's the worst thing that ever happened. Yeah. So I don't know. So then Willie, so he's going to be here for two weeks and then he'll go back with my mother-in-law and I don't know if he'll for two weeks and then he'll go back with my mother-in-law and I don't know if he'll be confused. I think he'll remember.

But yeah, we spent... Dogs, have you seen the stats about how there's like, I don't know, three times as many dogs as there used to be owned by people. Is that true? Yeah, it's like the dog population is skyrocketing and everything else is down. Lawyers.

But we spend so much time with these dogs and protecting dogs and whatever. And I still feel like we don't totally understand how smart they are and what they can remember or retain. I think they, I don't know. I guess you have to go by with the reaction when he goes back, right? Well, you ever seen that they have those dog Instagram videos where it's like somebody returns home from serving their country and it's their dog that hasn't seen them for three years. The dog is fucking crazy and it's super emotional. So obviously they have some sort of memory. Those are smart dogs.

Yeah, right. But do they think the guy was gone for three years or like three hours? I just don't know what a dog's sense of time is. Maybe they're really good actors. Yeah. Like the cousin on Brady Bunch who is making the same appearance, right? What was it, Oliver? Cousin Oliver. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Same kind of thing. We're just crushing it with completely dated TV references. Sorry. I mean, at least that's 45 years old. No, it's my fault too. I was bringing up Welcome Back, Connor. There's no new shows on, right? I could have gotten 90 shows.

Look, I could talk chip clips till we're blue in the face but i don't know this dog stuff jacko tweeted about some show ncis sydney and it's australian ncis and i thought he was kidding but then i googled it and it's a real show on paramount plus australia and it basically NCIS, but everybody has an Australian accent, but it's all the same beats. Wow. And yeah, that was on a flight for six hours yesterday, watching DirecTV and Googling weird shit like NCIS Sydney.

Maybe they shouldn't have settled the strike if it were up to NCIS Sydney. Go back on strike. Yeah. Sorry this went off the rails. That was Parent Corner brought to you by CarMax. With CarMax, you can pre-qualify in as little as five minutes with no impact to your credit score.

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He did. It's still here. We have to move it like every eight hours for the street sweepers. So, yeah, he didn't bring it up. You should hire Brad to like steal it. Be like, I don't know, Archie, it's gone. It's gone? And then sell it to CarMax.

By the way, back to the dog and cars. Not that this would happen with any CarMax car, but my dog was hit by a car in Mexico and then we rescued him or whatever. And he still, if he gets free, still runs right for the spinning wheels. Like if there's, so yeah. Can't resist.

Dumb as shit. He's intoxicated by the smell of exhaust. Yeah. All right, cuz. So what do you got coming? We got a NBA preview Tuesday. We'll do that. Couple more episodes during the week.

Cousin Sal's winning weekend, Friday, 10 a.m. on Fandle TV and Through the Ringer with Tate Frazier. You'll see that Tuesday morning on Fandle TV. Wise guys, it was great again today. And we might see our friend James Babydoll Dixon tomorrow. Let's do it. We got to run up the bill. Hopefully, we'll run up the bill.

Hopefully, we'll have some stories. All right, cuz. As always, good job by you. Good job by you, buddy. All right, that's it for the podcast. Thanks to Kyle Creighton and Steve Cerruti for producing. Thanks to the cuz.

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