The Bill Simmons Podcast - The Sleeper Blazers, Best NBA Futures, and LeBron’s Goofy MVP Bandwagon With Cousin Sal and Joe House

Episode Date: July 24, 2020

The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Cousin Sal and Joe House to preview the upcoming NBA season including NBA MVP, playoff seeding odds, underdogs to win the title, pandemic-specific prop bets, and championship favorites. Later, they get into the upcoming golf majors and break down their favorite players before closing the show with a new edition of Parent Corner. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I would also check out the Ringer fantasy football show because that launched this week with Danny, Danny, and Craig. They're covering everything. I'm glad we finally have our own fantasy football feed. I was always jealous of all these other fantasy football feeds. So now we have one. We also have Bakari Sellers who interviewed Hillary Clinton this week. And it went up today.

And it's really good. I thought the stuff she talked about with what she would have done with the pandemic if she had been president, I thought it was pretty fascinating. So you can check that out and you could also check for a couple announcements that we're going to have next week for some new additions, including a podcast that I'm very excited about. So all that is coming up. Another announcement we had, and this is something that had been agreed to right before the pandemic. But then when sports gets postponed, all that stuff, we weren't sure how it was going to play out.

And now sports are coming back. We made a huge deal with FanDuel to do a whole bunch of different ideas and contests and integrations within our podcast. And we had been working with them for a couple of years, decided to expand the relationship. One of the things I'm really excited about, we're going to be launching intern football season. It's a contest called the ultimate ringer and details will be coming down the road. But short term, there's going to be some stuff on fairway rolling with Joe House and Nathan Hubbard, which I hope you're listening to. There's going to be stuff on our football shows and our basketball shows, but we are going to embrace the return of sports, which hopefully continues to be returned, as well

as all the fantasy and sportsbook implications with that. So very excited to be working with FanDuel in a much bigger and broader way. So this week I was watching, saw some baseball, saw some basketball. We're going to talk NBA futures and MVP with House and Sal in one second. But it's really weird watching these games without fans. I thought the baseball just didn't work. And I couldn't really wrap my head around it. I tried to watch a Red Sox-Blue Jays game because the Blue Jays, well, for two reasons. I wanted to see the Red Sox. And also, the Blue Jays have this guy, Nate Pearson, that I just picked with a high first-round pick in our

League of Dorks minor league draft. It was just weird. There's no fans, there's no noise, and it's just the announcers kind of babbling to fill air. So the Ness and they had the play-by-play guy and Remy and Eckersley, and they're just trying to like, anytime nobody's saying anything, there's just nothing going on other than a batter scratching his balls. And it was really disorienting and strange. And the Red Sox actually scored four runs off Pearson. Moreland hits a homer. It goes over the fence, and it's just dead silence and empty seats. And I couldn't wrap my head around it.

I thought the NBA bubble stuff worked way better because it was like a combination of summer league and then watching these videos that we see on social media of guys working out or these scrimmages you always feel jealous that you can't see. I thought they did a great job, but I know I'm always like pro NBA in this podcast, but I really, I really, I thought they did a nice job just from a TV experience standpoint. The one frustrating, annoying, grating thing is just same thing with the announcers where they have these announcers that aren't even there. And they just feel like they have to talk the entire time. I gotta be honest. Like I would much rather just hear the squeaking sneakers and the grunts and

the guys talking to each other and having the announcers pick their spots. So when all this comes back, hopefully we'll have a better announcing crew than the local announcers for these different games. And I'm guessing the ESPN guys will figure out and the Turner guys will figure out a way to fill the dead air while also not overpowering it. But just in general, there's just more ambience with an NBA game squeaking sneakers and the noises and things moving and then you look at the background and you think about it when you're watching an NBA game you can't even really see the fans anyway other than the people in the first couple rows so you don't really miss that they did a nice job of spreading it out and blacking out

things so that it wasn't as apparent they were playing in an empty arena. I don't know what they do with baseball, but I guess I didn't realize over the course of my life, maybe how important it was just to have fans in the stands. And I grew up a Red Sox fan, obviously, and that's my team. Fenway is one of the great baseball parks for just seeing people in the background behind the hitters, when the pitcher's pitching, when stuff is going deep into the bleachers, whatever. And Yankee Stadium used to be like that. And then when they built the new stadium, it changed because there was empty seats. And was always like really jarring just to see you know you'd see 100 seats in the background and 50 of them were empty

but I think the teams that worked the best for a TV standpoint were always ones where the fans seemed near home plate and it was filled and you could be watching and you know it's 30 seconds between pitches basically and your eyes are just drifting around.

You're looking to see if you can recognize people in the stands. You're watching the drunk guy in the first row. You're watching the super old person who doesn't move, and you don't know if they're dead or not. It was just visual, the crowds. And I don't think the NBA even had that to that degree because there's not nearly as much dead time in NBA games. So to remove it from baseball where it's just basically

guys playing in empty giant arenas is really, really odd. And I don't know if I'm going to get used to it. Now, they've screwed up a whole bunch of other things. And I'm sure we'll talk about it with Soundhouse in a second. Even on the fly, they're still trying to figure out this playoff system. Now they're going to do this Batcher thing, which was a running joke in my mailbags in the past about the higher seeds basically being able to pick who they get to play in the first round. They're actually doing that. Baseball has lost its mind,

and I don't know how the 60 game thing is going to play out, but I'm way less excited about it than I thought I was going to be. Even like trying to figure out fantasy drafts, stuff like that. It just feels like going through the motions, kind of like they're doing this because they have to, because they want to make sure everybody gets paid. And meanwhile, with the basketball, I was watching the Portland game today, which again, we're going to talk about in a second. And I'm watching Nurkic back and all these things. And I'm thinking like, wow, this team could make the playoffs. And it really did feel like basketball. And it didn't feel that much

different. So I think UFC was another one where it didn't feel that much different. But with the NBA, I think it's going to work. And it seems like they've been able to keep everybody healthy. Baseball, poorly run, run back, doesn't actually care about the sport. And it doesn't feel like it's going to work that well. And if anything, it could end up working terribly. You saw Soto turned out with COVID.

Now what happens? What happens to the rest of his team? How are they going to handle that? The worst run you are, whether you're a sports league or the United States of America, the more the warts are going to pop up. And unfortunately, that's just where we are in life and in sports. Anyway, we're going to bring in Soundhouse right now.

First, our friends, our good friends from Pearl Jam. All right, Cousin Sal here for the first time since the NFL draft. Wow. Joe House here. He's been here a couple times, but he's still recovering from watching a little bit of the Wizards yesterday. What do we call them, the Zombie Wizards? What's our nickname going to be for them? Wow, that's pretty good.

The Walking Dead, the Zombie, I don't know. I mean, it's a G League team, so we call them the Glizzards? The Gizzards? The Gizzards. I'm going to call them the Gizzards. Yeah, the Gizzards. That's my name. What are they, 22-1 to make the playoffs?

It's like a sports movie. It's like the replacements. They should get Keanu Reeves as point guard. Why were they invited, House? They're over under for wins is like one and a half. And I think most of these guys are going to be healthy enough to survive the two months. But at some point, they'll be like,

what the hell are we going here for? We're not even expected to win two games. They were really worried about getting on a couple teams that weren't quite in the playoffs giving them a fair chance to make it and then they overthought it and they invited 22 teams instead of 19. It should have been 19 teams. There should have just

been three teams in the West and the East should have been set. Yeah, I think they felt bad about inviting too many West teams. So they're like, alright, the Wizards, this doesn't make any sense. But the whole all-star game where everybody from each team makes it kind of thing. House, Wizards, Brooklyn, who's favored when that terrible matchup happens? And will that be the worst basketball game of all time?

I think it's definitely Brooklyn. I mean, because Washington is not favored in any of its games over this slate. The Philadelphia 76ers, the year they only won 11 games. There were some bad games there, but this rivals those teams. I got to say, I mentioned at the top before I brought you guys in how I was watching the basketball the last two days. I kind of like it. Do you guys like it? I kind of like bubble basketball. I don't think it's that much different. It's not as jarring as baseball. Would you think so?

I think it does have a summer league feel to it. You guys have actually attended summer league games, so you could tell me if I'm off on this, but I put it right near the top in terms of sports that aren't jarring. Right now, baseball is at the top of the list of like anytime, anytime the ball leaves the surface of the earth, it makes it worse and worse, I think, for the viewer, right? So baseball, there's a long foul ball or a long fly ball. You see the tens of thousands of empty seats.

There's just no way to avoid covering it. I know Fox is going to try to cover it with a virtual fans. I don't know if that's going to, we're going to hate that more or less, but same thing. I think with football, if you see a punt, that's going to be bad,

but basketball, if that's what you're talking about, like crowd noise pumped in and just sneakers hitting against the, against the hardwood. I think it's fine. So far. Do you like it? I love it.

I totally agree with Sal's fine so far. How do you like it? I love it. I totally agree with Sal's assessment of it having a summer league feel, and it looks that way. But I think the innovation that they've experimented with in terms of some noise, there's been songs. I like the songs.

I like the little sound effects and so forth. It has a live game feel, and the guys are sort of ramping up. Definitely, the level of play in the scrimmages so far have also felt like summer league. But I think there's a ton of potential here. I think when they start playing hard, it's going to feel real. And I don't think we're going to miss the fans.

I don't think so either. And I think the closest comparison is probably what it was like to watch UFC where it was different, but still cool. And you realize like, I don't really need the fans of the UFC. It's fun to hear the cheering, the booing, the reactions to things, but ultimately the cameras are pretty tight anyway. I was saying at the top, the baseball was just so disorienting and unlikable. Yeah. And part of the reason is the stadium's just too big.

So I think your point about football is going to be the same way. You just constantly think about it. Yeah. It's that there's no getting used to it. When anytime the ball goes in the air and they go to the wide shot and it's just completely empty, it's like, what the fuck is going on? Right. Am I in the matrix?

Yeah. And it also highlights, I think, how boring baseball is when you just have nothing to look at. And then it's 28 seconds between pitches. And have you guys noticed how much the announcers have just been trying to fill time? Yeah. Because they're kind of trying to fill air

because they know it's weird. And it's just like this weird energy that I think is way off. Yeah. They've all of a sudden become like auctioneers because they do. You're right. They need to fill time. But what about this for baseball? And I was thinking, it's a shame Vin Scully doesn't come back for one more year. But baseball is a great radio sport, right? Because it is slow. There's so many lulls. Like I might go back to listening. I like the Mets radio crew.

I know the Yankee fans love the Yankees radio crew. You guys, you love the Red Sox, right, Simmons? So you can live with that. I think maybe this is something where you sit on your deck and listen to a game for three hours and try to paint a few things and get some shit done, right? I used to love baseball on the radio. I think I've even written pieces about it, but what's it like without the noise from the crowd? So it's basically just the noise of the bat, the ball hitting the mitt, and then the announcer, and you don't get anything else.

And I am not, are you guys pro or anti fake crowd noise? I'm actually anti. I don't like it. I don't like it for the soccer. I think it's too strange. I love it for the soccer. You do? Yeah. Well, the MLS, maybe not.

Are you looking at like English Premier Games where it's just like all chants and songs and people are singing that Ricky Hatton song that we heard against Mayweather when we were there, remember, just for two and a half hours? I don't know. I'm lulled into a sense of, wowweather when we were there. Remember just for two and a half hours. I, I don't know. I'm lulled into a sense of, wow, they're actually fans there, but it's like,

it's like a deep fake though. Yeah. It's like not real. That's the part I can't wrap my head around. It's not actually real noise. It's from coming from a computer. Well, Star Wars isn't real and they still sell toys and stuff.

Fair. Fair. I don't mind it. I think it's fine. I think it fits what your brain expects in terms of your eyes are locked on the TV and your brain is anticipating certain things. And if they deliver a little bit of a facsimile of that, it starts to feel a little bit more normal. The basketball, they did a really nice job. They obviously put a lot of thought into it and what we actually have to see

on a TV and how to make it not seem too weird. Even the camera angles are very deliberate to make sure that we don't see too much in the background. And, and they did a nice job. I'm sorry. One thing they can't do. And I know you guys are on board with this,

but they talked about delaying the broadcast a half hour for NBA. We absolutely cannot do that, right? Because they're worried about the players swearing and everything else and trying to sync that up. That's a no for gamblers, especially. It's not going to work, right? Well, we know that it's somewhere between 15 and 30 seconds normally.

Yeah. Right? Like if you're watching on direct TV, it's even like five seconds behind if you're getting in on cable in some cases. It really depends on what system you have. But it's definitely, I would say, 10, 11 seconds behind. Right.

And at least. So I think you could push it to about 30, but now you're really starting to affect the live betting stuff, which is what we care about. So I don't know if it to about 30, but now you're really starting to affect the live betting stuff, which is what we care about. I don't know if they go past 30 seconds. No, they can't do it. Maybe there can't be live betting until there's timeouts and stuff like that.

So the commercials? Yeah, then you could have a minute-long break, but that would be the only way to do it. Don't screw with the betting. It's the worst thing. Go ahead, Alex. What do you think? No, it's just the only point of having any of these games

is for the gambling, so you can't do anything to diminish the integrity. You said 30 minutes. That's not possible. They're not going to do that. Yeah, that seems too long. There's too many people at the games. All right, here's our menu today. We're going to talk about NBA MVP really quickly.

Sal has an announcement. Then we're doing NBA futures. And then we'll do a little golf at the end because I think we have to talk a little US Open at the tail end. But NBA MVP, I knew this was going to happen. You did? I knew it was going to happen, that this bubble thing was going to get going.

And at some point, the LeBron media cronies would start doing the, oh, are we sure he's not the MVP? And there would be this false kind of narrative slash story. I'm just going to tell you guys where we left off. Well, we left off in mid-March and we were all on text and House had a big Giannis bet. And then it was like, should I hedge? And what day was that bet, House? March 8th? Yeah, either March 8th or March 9th, I actually went ahead and hedged. It was the weekend before the Gobert game, and LeBron was 4-1.

And our theory was, LeBron, if the season ends today, is not going to win the MVP, but there's 16 games left. There's a whole bunch of time for the media narrative to swing behind him. Giannis is probably going to miss 10, 11 days, something like that. There's a world in which everybody's going to talk themselves into LeBron being the MVP. So the pandemic hits. I did a podcast with Russillo. We talked about it within probably eight, nine days. Then I went on Zach Lowe's podcast. Same thing. We did a podcast with Rosillo. We talked about it within like probably eight, nine days.

Then I went on Zach Lowe's podcast. Same thing. We did our MVP ballot. What a name dropper this guy turned out. I know. I'm just name dropping media people. So go on Zach Lowe's pod. We do our top five MVP.

We don't even debate the Giannis LeBron thing because there was no debate. The only way LeBron had a chance to win the MVP was if it was an 82 game season and Giannis missed some only way LeBron had a chance to win the MVP was if it was an 82-game season and Giannis missed some games and LeBron finished strong. The Lakers got the one seed. But the Giannis case was unassailable.

His best two-way player in the league. He's probably going to win defensive player of the year. In 31 minutes a game, he was putting up stats that if you average it out to a per 36, it was like 34, 14, and seven. The plus minus stuff is crazy. They had the best record in the league. He had no Anthony Davis on his team. He was the best player day in and day out. And it was just absurd to even think there was an

argument, which we all agreed there was no argument. Sal, why is there now an argument? Why is this now a story? We already litigated this and decided this. LeBron is not the MVP. I'm sorry, LeBron. You had a great year. You're the second pick. You were not the MVP. Why did this happen? Well, first of all, I think when House made it, it was four to one for LeBron and probably two weeks before it was eight or 10 to one for LeBron. And a lot of that momentum was because you could say it isn't, but I really think Kobe's death was like, okay, like it made me, made me hedge too, you know? And so I don't know why. And now, so we're way far removed from that.

We're also far removed from having Michael Jordan thrown down our throats for 10 Sundays in a row, which also would inspire LeBron. And we're going to talk about the Lakers odds, I'm sure somewhere in here, but I don't know. It shouldn't be an argument. And I'll tell you what else shouldn't be an argument. John Morant should not be an argument. He's going to win rookie of the year, but I've seen people, people I work with, Colin Coward said, nope, it's going to be Zion. He should win it right now. Zion played 19 games? 19 games. Even if he played 40, I said that was going to be a stretch,

which is what I think he would have gotten to. But please, that's got to not be an argument in this also. I don't see it at all. House, I'm working on my awards ballot right now because they sent me it. I don't have Zion in the top two. I can't vote for somebody who played 19 games with a top two rookie of the year pick. I'm going to have Clark on the Grizzlies as my number two. At least he played the whole year and was really good and valuable to a team that has a chance to make the playoffs.

Zion played 19 games. I'm not overreacting to that. No, I agree. I mean, that's a very fair position to take. I mean, what is there to say? There's no argument for, for, for, well, make the argument. Let's hear the argument for, I am using my rookie of the year vote on a guy who played 19 games. I can't make it. I refuse to do it. You can't make me do it. All right. We'll make the LeBron argument. The LeBron argument is he's 35 years old. He leads the league in assists for the first time in his career.

It is his 17th NBA season, and he has restored a storied franchise in the National Basketball Association to the lofty heights to which they have become accustomed. The thing that really would have made it interesting is if, in fact, he drugged them all the way up. Dragged them all the way up to the number one. He's going to drug them?

What is this, Hal? That's part of your argument? He's drugging the teams? If they were drugged. He's going to roofie the Lakers? If they've been dragged and drugged. Hydroxychloroquine. He's part of your argument? If they were drugged. He's going to roofie the Lakers? If they've been dragged and drugged. Hydroxychloroquine. He's drugging everybody.

If the Lakers had the number one record in the league heading into the Go-Bear game, and you'd be like, look, man, they were the best team. And yeah, he has Anthony Davis, but the Bucs had the best team. And Giannis' two-way impact and the way you have to prepare for him

night after night, plus the statistical resume, which honestly is one of the great statistical resumes anyone's put up in the last 20 years for the MVP. And then people are like, well, he only played 31 minutes a game, I guess would be a deterrent. It's like, yeah, because they were winning by 20 and he was sitting entire fourth quarters. That's why he played 31 minutes a game, I guess would be a deterrent. It's like, yeah, because they were winning by 20 and he was sitting entire fourth quarters. That's why he played 31 minutes a game. I think it's poor LeBron.

I think that's the only argument. Poor LeBron. Poor LeBron has to react to Kobe. Poor LeBron has to watch all those Jordan documentaries. And now all the younger kids know that Jordan's the best. Poor LeBron didn't get to take advantage of, like you said, Giannis being hurt for a couple weeks and getting that momentum back. I think people feeling bad for him. This is an award he could have, should have won many more times than he did over the last 15 years, and he hasn't. That's

the best argument, right? I like when he activates the media machine, whether he does this or his people do it or whether it's his thing, but like there becomes this narrative, right? And then you see people in the talking head shows, including my beloved friend, Dave Jacoby. What? Yeah. He had a whole LeBron was the MVP thing. Come on.

I know he's got three kids and he's not sleeping enough, but come on, Jacoby, get your shit together. But so LeBron had, LeBron retweeted this tweet with a comment on top of it where somebody put in quotes, the East is easy. He won't do that in the West. Like somebody sucking up to LeBron.

And LeBron retweets that and he goes, bro, I swear I heard that for 15 years, exclamation point, fist, whole thing. The guy who did the initial quote was Paul Rivera, who is one of his business partners and the co-creator of The Shop. So it's basically a quote of House doing that for me, like after we sold the company to Spotify, and House being like, they said he couldn't sell the company. And me like, bro, I've been hearing that for four years. And it's like, wait, that's Joe House.

It's not like a random person on the internet. I still expect that to happen from House. Yeah, House, do that. Do one tweet for me. But I just thought that was so funny. This whole thing about, is there a person in the world who thinks LeBron's been underrated or that we've taken him for granted? Was there anyone out there like, oh, LeBron couldn't do this in the West? Was there

one person who thought that? I don't know. I don't know, guys. I don't know what to do with this. I feel bad for Giannis because I do think there's a slight chance this MVP might get stolen from him with this narrative that's going on. Yeah, I do. I saw some

crazy odds that it was like minus 5,000 or something. They can't do that. I thought it went down. You sure it didn't go way down? I don't know. I checked it two days ago, but nothing's happened in between. So I can't imagine it moved that much. All right.

I hope it doesn't move. Who do you have? One more thing with Zion. They basically made this playoff structure so that he can make the playoffs. And now i don't know i don't want to point finger i don't know how serious this issue is this we have to assume it is this emergency i can't join the bubble just yet situation but that's another reason like hey come on they set this up so that you could be the eighth seed and now you're not not even able to

take advantage of that house out of anyone in the, you probably felt the most kinship and solidarity with Rashawn Holmes for ordering chicken wings and not realizing he was breaking bubble policy. Walk us through your thoughts during that whole saga. Well, I mean, I understand the motivation. I understand the incentive. The man wanted delicious chicken wings. They exist in Orlando and he

resorted to what he had available to him in terms of the tools to deploy. Yeah. Chicken wings? Why do chicken wings violate the bubble? House would just be repeatedly quarantined during his entire time in the bubble

over and over again. He'd never make it out of the bubble three seasons later. Do I get chicken wings? You'd be in your hotel room on day three just going through all of the Orlando delicacies. You'd be like, oh, fried mozzarella sticks. I didn't realize that place had that.

Yeah, the bubble sounds miserable by all accounts. Like poor Dwight Howard's getting shit because he didn't wear a mask. I say poor Dwight Howard because there's obviously something wrong with him because he like doubled down on it. Yeah. About, well, if I'm in the lobby,

it's like, Dwight, you're not helping. This is why we're in the mess we're in, because you're saying shit like this. I tweeted like a middle school lunch you would get. It was with tacos, and the lettuce was all over the place. It looked terrible. And I don't know. I mocked it up so that LeBron had tweeted it.

It was on a Tuesday. I was like, LeBron enjoying taco Tuesday. And people freaked out. They're're like this is in humane these guys should not be eating like this it was like so obviously a fake picture of a taco and uh everyone fell for it but um they could suck it up for a little bit i think you know i i was power walking around LA yesterday. And because I'm losing my mind. I honestly am. I'm just, I put headphones in. I just make phone calls.

I just walk around. And I was near Fairfax and there's a newsstand there. And I was walking by and I'm really careful. I never go near anybody. But I started to veer toward the newsstand and see if the new USA Today Weekly with the baseball scores was out. And there's some guy standing up who's a little worse for wear.

And he just started coughing. And I was like six feet away from him. And I jumped to the left like I was like Barry Sanders hitting a hole against the Cowboys with five guys coming at me. I don't think I've ever moved faster to the side in one direction. I was thinking like, for some reason, I immediately thought of the cuz. And you can't do this for a million reasons, but the all-time hidden camera would be you doing this to people, right? Because I just know my reaction, how scared I was for that two seconds and how fast I moved

for, you know, 90 degrees to the left. Yeah. And if you were out there torturing people, it's kind of what, it's kind of the culmination of a life's work, but you can't do it. I love to do it. I look at these, you know, DoorDash drivers and Amazon delivery guys of which it's just limitless. They just keep coming and coming and coming.

And I was like, how could i screw with them and i'm like well even if you pay them at the end everything seems just too mean these days so yeah there's only one person that you could do a gag like that on and everybody would understand and that's baby doll james baby doll dixon if you did it to dixon every nobody would complain you you could set it up perfectly. He'd lose his mind. Don't give up hope. Maybe it's all still out there. He's doing it to everybody else, smoking cigarettes

during his seven-mile walks and everything. I know. We should follow him with cameras. He's talking about how healthy and careful he's been, and he's going through three packs a day. Something doesn't add up. He's like, baby, I weigh 136. I haven't fucking weighed that little since eighth grade. I was like, oh, congratulations. He's walking and smoking all day.

The cigarette smoke is burning fat from his body. Yeah. You know, the cuz has spent 25 years hoping for situations where somebody is showing too much trust in him and then he violates that trust in some sort of prank way. And now this is the ultimate situation for that, right? Everybody is so trusting of everyone else and delivery guys come, they're wearing masks and gloves and everything we do. Society is trying to have this order. And that's usually when you're at your best, upending that order. And you can't. It's like watching an athlete with a torn ACL. It's right. It's not good that it immediately results in jail time. That's what I always try to avoid. Jail time and maybe even worse. Who knows? Speaking of the cuz, the cuz has an announcement for us. Oh, I'm going to do this now. I am starting my own media company. It's called

Extra Points. It's going to be a bunch of podcasts combining sports and sports gambling and comedy. You guys wouldn't be interested in any of that. I don't know about any of those genres. Dave Damaschek and I, you know Damaschk, we're going to do the flagship podcast. I have Jerry Ferreira doing some fantasy podcasts, TJ Huchmanzada, Jeff Schwartz doing some football podcasts. I have Rachel Bonetta's in the mix. And yeah, it debuts Monday and Simmons thinks it's a horrible idea. Not true. I just always worry about you.

It's my job to worry. Listen, I'm a gambler. So starting a business during a pandemic that largely relies on sports, when we're looking at a start and stop for sure for the next four months, is right up my alley, I think. Today was the first day I felt like it might be an okay idea because two sports are happening at the same time. Right.

Yeah, it makes it feel good. It was the first day where it started to feel normal again. I'm bringing, I'm sorry. I'm bringing the against all odds crew with me. Uh, Simmons, by the way,

with all his millions could add Harry for like $75 in a case of Pabst blue ribbon, but nope, didn't, didn't want them. So couldn't, couldn't pass the background check for me. I tried to kick the tires on him over and over again.

So there you go. I'll be doing live check-ins and live appearances if and when that's ever going to happen and contests and all that crap. So the pod is relaunching on Monday. Yeah. This is where we mentioned because people are hearing this and they're selfish and they're like, well, wait a second. So you're not going to be on the BS pod on Sunday nights anymore?

Not the case. Not the case. Yeah. So it's still going to be on the bs pod on sunday nights anymore not the case not the case yeah so still going to be on on sunday nights of course i'm not fucking stupid no yeah no i will i will be there sunday nights it's my favorite thing and um just let's just please please let football last till uh september at least so we can get that first podcast in, do some preseason stuff for sure. Speaking of selfish, House is going to his own selfish place right now because we have a lot of text threads about gambling. What happened? Yeah. And House is concerned that if you're taking on these added responsibilities, you might not have as much time for him. We will figure something out. Go ahead, House. Yeah, well, I'm wildly enamored of this idea.

The only criticism that I can come up with is Damoshek and his indefensible donut ranking. I mean, that guy has no credibility with that donut ranking. But otherwise, I love it. And my only request, save me a place to chat a little bit about some golf. I mean, those are, those are all my guys. You know, I like to talk about the golf. Of course. Yeah. Damage check. We lost a lot of potential sponsors, uh, because of his cherry, uh, cherry cake donut at the top of the list.

As house points out, but I thought, I think it's insane that House limited it to just donuts for a damn six terrible takes. I mean, he has some of the worst fruit takes anyone's ever had in the history of fruit. Yeah. And then combined with the arrogance that it's the best take and that everyone else is wrong. He's really something else.

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I hate jumping on bandwagons of dumb sports topics. People are really bored. Nobody could watch basketball. Every day, people are trying to come up with narratives leading to our ridiculous Giannis versus LeBron MVP thing. Dave Jacoby, you should go to church and repent. The Portland thing got momentum a couple weeks ago.

And I had Chris Haynes on my podcast talking about, I think Portland's really dangerous. I think they can win the West. And, you know, he covered them for a few years. And I was kind of like, wow, that's insane. That's bold. I kind of respect it, but obviously he's a lunatic. And then he was saying, like, watch out for these guys.

I watched them today. They played Indiana. Nurkic looked great. Zach Collins is back. The only reason that team was under 500 to begin with is because they had no big men. They were relying on Hassan Whiteside. He's a walking tumor. And then they got a bad start. Dame got hurt. Listen, people who follow basketball, they've heard the case. I don't need to make it again. My point is, depending on where you look,

there's somewhere between plus 425 and plus 480 on the Fando sportsbook to be a playoff team. All right, so what needs to happen for them to be a playoff team? They are three and a half games back behind the Grizzlies. You have to be within

four games as the ninth seed when the season ends after the eight games. They have the best chance since them or New Orleans. I think they have a better team than New Orleans and the Zion thing's a huge variable. If they make it, they would have to beat Memphis two games in a row. Memphis would only have to beat them once. So let's say we use the Fando odds. It's plus 480. They win the first game. They'd probably be favored for the second game and you could go against it. Oh, that's true. Yeah. I thought that was by far the best bet because I'm thinking about my top teams right now. You know, I have basically, I have a top seven. LA, Milwaukee, that's the big three, right?

I don't think that's changed. I think Celtics and Toronto are right underneath. And Denver is kind of like slightly underneath them, but basically dead even. And then maybe you go Houston or Philly. You could go both. You could go neither. You could go neither. I don't know. But then when you get to like OKC, Miami, Indiana, Utah,

no Bogdanovich for them, Dallas, Portland. House, I think I like Portland the most out of all those teams. They have a top eight guy. Lillard is one of the best eight guys in the league. Zach voted for, I think, fourth in MVP, not to mention McCollum. They have their size back. Why isn't that an awesome gamble at almost five to one? The only thing that gives me pause, I mean, the lineup aspect of it and the renewed energy and the opportunity to go surprise people, all that stuff really

works in their favor. And I bet like, like it's a real, uh, uh, breath of fresh air to be able to play with Collins and Nurkic again. I bet, you know, Dame and McCollum are feeling like super invigorated. The schedule is hard as balls. Yeah. So the very first game is against Memphis, which really charts the course for them. If they beat Memphis in that first game,

then boom, buddy, we're off and running. But then they have Boston, Houston, Denver, the Clippers, Philly. I mean, that's a murderer's row. Right. They might, you know, you could see them winning only one of those games. I mean, they're going to have to play their asses off. And it's just asking so much of a team that's, you know, really just come together for the last couple weeks with this level of talent. And everybody's sort of back in the seat to go out there and take down all the, the, all those other teams that I just mentioned that they have to beat have,

have pretty, you know, reliable, uh, uh, rosters and game plans. Let me just, can I,

in defense of Simmons pick here, um, first of all, the Lakers would be terrified, not terrified of Portland, but that is not an ideal situation in a one eight, right? That's, that's especially with no situation in a 1-8, right?

That's what they want to hope for. Especially with no Avery Bradley. That was really their only guy they had who could guard these McCollum Dame guys. The odds makers are thinking in the same way House is. They're over under for wins out of eight is three and a half. So they're not even supposed to win half their games. The under is minus 200. What I will say is, is this really fair? If they're within four, they get to make it in that eight, nine. So if they,

they could even lose a half game from the time we're done talking. And if they're three games out, they could sit their players for the eighth game. It's really kind of weird already how, how this is working out. Right. Well, they would have New Orleans. They would still have to worry about that and then the other West teams, which I don't think could catch them. But House is right. If they win that Memphis game, it all falls into place for them. And it'll be a lot easier to make it. I'm just telling you,

watching them today and, you know, the starters were only playing like 20 minutes, stuff like that. They ended up losing the game. That team is ready to roll. And we saw this happen in 1999 with the Knicks. When you have these short seasons and weird shit happens and a team can kind of catch fire for like four or five weeks,

and there's a bunch of teams that that could happen for. Like I could totally, I could see that happen with OKC. That's another one where I think teams that have good guards and they know who they are and they can get buckets the last five minutes and they can handle the rebounding and defense at least enough. Those are the teams that I think are more dangerous than like, you know, people are talking about Philly as a,

as a title sleeper and stuff. Philly's still figuring out what they are. Like there's a whole story today about, um, or this week about Ben Simmons is going to be playing forward basically. And they're going to play shake Milton a lot more and bring Horford off the bench. Like they're still tinkering. Like it's October, you know, whereas Portland's like, we have Nerkich back. We have Zach Collins back.

Our team revolves around Dame and McCollum. We know who we are. And we're finally our full team again. And I don't know. I think they're going to be dangerous. I'm down for that. So I like them at the plus 480. Don't forget, also Philly, best home record in the league.

I'm almost certain of it. So that's something that they're going to have to contend with where other teams won't matter as much. Well, they had a historical difference between discrepancy between their home record and their road record. I think in the history of the NBA, nobody had a bigger difference in that performance.

I will say, if I was going to push back on the idea that Philly tinkering, I mean, we've been begging Philly to tinker for, for two years. Now we've been begging Brett Brown to do something to innovate, to get the ball out of Joel and beads hands in the mid range. So he can stop taking terrible mid range jumpers. Right. Ben Simmons is setting picks and rolling to the basket and they, they get a little bit of chemistry going. I kind of like Ben Simmons in that forward role.

And I think if there's ever a moment to tinker, it's right now with the talent that Philly has. Go ahead and go for it. This is a short season. It's a short tournament. Go try and take them all down. Give the whole league something that they've never seen before. They started tinkering those two, three weeks before the pandemic.

Yeah. And I think they really were finally starting to realize this Horford thing, we have to come up with an alternative. And he was playing badly too. I'm very concerned about what Embiid's going to be like with this condensed schedule. Because I haven't read... House, have you read the, oh my God, we can't believe what kind of shape Joel Embiid came into the bubble. And it's like, guess what? That nobody's written that article. So, um, and he's,

and he seems pretty like unhappy with the bubble situation too. There there's been stuff. Some of these guys are like, all I want to do is hoop. And there's been other guys who are like, this is weird. I don't know. And I don't know. Houston's another one where they have their top two guys. It seems Westbrook definitely had it. Did Harden, did he come out and say he had it? Or was that official? I don't think he said it yet. I don't know.

He was just late for whatever reason. Everybody's trying to read between the lines in this stuff. Swept his mind. Yeah. But they were really falling apart before the pandemic. Remember? That whole small ball thing that we were so enamored with, all of a sudden it went sideways.

Miami's another one that I think they know who they are. They have a really good coach. And that's one that I could see getting hot for a couple of weeks, but, but I think Portland is such a wild card. And if I'm the Lakers,

everyone's like, oh, they don't want to see Zion in a playoff series. I promise they're, they'd be delighted to see new Orleans in a playoff series. I promise over Memphis, same thing who they do not want to see Portland in the playoff series, the Lakers.

So I do think that's a legitimate thing. That's a bad matchup for them. Did you guys look at the bets that you made in the preseason, the picture made and, and what, which ones are alive and which aren't, should we go over that? No, I just assumed all the win over unders are probably dead, right? So the win over unders are dead. The two make a playoff. I don i don't yeah i don't know since you had golden state you had a hefty amount on them under 48 and a half and that was that was good like two weeks in which is unfair so that's out yeah yeah yeah you can't just cherry pick the ones you want you had philly over 54 and a half you had indiana under you had indiana under 54 and a half. You had Indiana under 47 and a half. Your big one was Miami to win the Southeast,

which all the divisions are out. Indiana and Golden State to both miss the playoffs, so that wasn't going to win. As a parlay, yeah. I called that one with Oladipo. I knew he wasn't, and they were still great without him, and it didn't matter. So, House, we have a few with Greek Freak to win MVP

and just all the ones for a team to win the title and a team to win their conference are still alive. And I think points per game, if you had Harden, I think they're giving you that one too. Oh, okay. I couldn't remember. I parlayed the Celtics to win the east with sal to host a podcast with damashek it was like 10 to 1 so i was only 10 to 1 it was 10 to 1 i don't know i had a cherry donut to be the top donut here and we got we got 90 to 1 i can't wait till you call

me in like october and you're fucking donuts. He won't let up. He's just, he spent 45 minutes on the crower today. See, that's where you don't know your donut. October is not donut season. Otherwise, so you're not going to get that call.

Good point. That's my bad. All right, Sal, what other bets do you like? Well, you know what? I have some like weird ones that maybe we could have fun with here.

Will the NBA regular season restart on time? Now the yes is minus 150. I don't know what, I know what gets in the way of that, but that, that seems like it's going to happen. Will they finish under the new format? Yes.

Is minus two 50. Um, will an NBA team be removed from the bubble? No, is minus 3000. I is minus 3,000. I kind of like yes at nine to one. You hear like a lot of these guys, like all it has to be is, I don't know, Caruso gets it, gives it to somebody else.

Sorry, LeBron, you're out. A whole team gets removed from the bubble? We're not talking about a 50-man roster. This is just a few players who may have to sit two weeks, right? You don't think it happens? I could say the Wizards trying it, but probably not pulling it off. Don't get pushed. Yeah.

Any player violates the bubble. Yes is minus 500. I think that kind of happened, right? There shouldn't even be odds on that. Yeah, right. That's really it. There's stupid social media things and other COVID stuff, but I don't know. I didn't know if any of those were worth jumping on, but I'll tell you what, why not the Jazz? 2020 is a weird year. This started with Rudy Gobert, and then everyone

hated him as footage surfaced about him touching the microphones and potentially everyone's locker room. It took a while to get him back. Utah comes in. They win it 60 to 1 to win the NBA. Wow. Mitt Romney is our president, and we move forward. Everybody's happy. The case against Utah is the Bogdanovich thing.

Oh, yeah. Because it basically means, other than Mitchell, that Mike Conley would have to go back in the time machine and go back to 2017 Mike Conley. And there were no signs of that during the season. And I don't know what was going on with him. It was a weird team. Sometimes teams don't fit. But I thought Bogdanovich was really important to him.

How still is Matt at Bogdanovich? Because he cost the Wizards a first-round pick and a trade that time to basically win you one round. He didn't cost. He was great. They should have extended them. They should have resigned him.

I will. I'm not mad at him. That's an Ernie Grunfeld special. Well, you're just mad. You lost the pick. Yeah. I mean,

what, what's the difference? We, you see what the wizards do with, with the draft picks. They, they had a chance. Even the first moment after Grunfeld,

we had a chance to take a guy that earlier in the season was top five in the entire NBA draft in the form of Bull Bull. And instead we took Admiral Schofield. But I mean, forget the fact that Manute Bull was drafted by the Washington Bullets 25, 30 years ago. God forbid in a season that's all it's a, it's a turd bucket season. We already know it. God forbid we have some connection to some one sort of happy moment in the past in the

form of, of bowl bowl. And that, you know, all of the criticism with, oh, he's not mature. He's not ready. Top five talent, and lo and behold, the first scrimmage he comes out and plays against the Gizzards, he dominates, he eviscerates. I don't even know if Admiral Schofield played 10 minutes. It's the same old Gizzards situation here.

We've seen with the talented guys who drop for whatever reason, but clearly have the talent. They should never fall below 35. He fell to 44, which is basically like you have a murder in your background that the police haven't found out about. That's like the only excuse at that point.

He's way too talented to go 44th. But I watched some of that game yesterday. And it's funny. My son is a big 2K. Do your sons play 2K, Sal? Yeah, yeah, they still play. So he had this Bull Bull Galaxy Opal card

and the Galaxy Opal card gives you like superpowers. So Bull Bull was like his center and I always thought it was the funniest thing because in real life, Bull Bull couldn't even play a minute in an NBA game. So then Bull Bull lights it up yesterday and my son's like, Dad, did you see Bol Bol?

Settle down. But at the very least, to get him at 44 is like, that was a steal. Sal, I completely disagree with you on Utah. Well, I think if it's out of Utah, I'm going mid-range on all these guys. It's already a screwed up season. I'm telling you, I'm taking the Falcons at 7-1 to win the division. I'm taking the Jets at 7-1. We always look for someone to pair the Patriots to win the division at minus 2,500. I'm going the other way this year. That bet obviously doesn't exist anymore, but why not? Why not take a chance

on these long shots? I was all excited to take Portland for like a hundred to one. And it seems like there's been action on them because they're 40 to one to win the West and 60 to one to win the title, which considering that they're five to one just to make the playoffs, that seems bonkers. And they would then have to win four rounds. But what about a Denver or a Dallas or something in 25 or 40 to one? There's just no chance? I think out of all the long, long shots, it's got to be a team

that has a top eight guy. So right there, you're looking at only the Mavs in Portland. The Mavs were 40 to one. There's a lot of positive advanced metrics for the Mavs. Like when all their guys,

they had the number one offense. When all their guys were healthy, certain good things were happening, things like that. But it just seems early for them. I am a subscriber, and I know other people feel this way too, the young legs thing. And I talked about it on Pod a couple weeks ago about that. The 99 Knicks thing being a great analogy,

where it's just a lot of games in a condensed time. It's very unfavorable to the older teams. In 99 Miami, I think they would have made the Eastern final. They would have made the finals as the East representative in a normal season. And the shortened season killed them. On the flip side, like the 99 Spurs, they had a young Duncan

who could just go all day at that point. And that was great. The Knicks had Sprewell, who was still pretty young, a younger Allen Houston, young Marcus Camby. So I was trying to think like what kind of young legs team

would be like that. And it would actually, the answer would probably be the Mavs. Because you have Luka and Chris Stapps. Both of those guys are under 25. 40 to one is not bad. This is a very strange year. I'm at least convincing House to jump on with me there. I'll do.

I'll sprinkle a tiny bit on Dallas for funsies. I'm actually kind of trying to talk myself into Toronto. I like the defending champion angle. I loved what they did this regular season. They just really put the hammer down and kicked ass and showed a ton of pride all season long. And I just think there's like a great chemistry there. They all believe they all expect to be, you know, in, in, in the,

in the conference finals, they play that way. So, I mean, at 20 to one, that's, that's, that's not a terrible little, little bit of cash. I don't think that's to win the whole title. That's the whole thing. Yeah. Eight to eight to one to win the East. The bummer for me is I would have been spending 20 minutes

talking to you guys into the Celtics. But the Kemba thing's a real thing. And I cannot... I already have them. You did talk me into them. I took them at 6-1 the beginning of the year to win the East, and now they're plus 650, which I guess is fair. Kemba, they don't

do anything for four plus months. And he comes back and he's in the exact same spot with his knee that he was before the hiatus. And there's a lot of rumors about, does he just have arthritis? Is this the way this is going to go? And is this why Charlotte let him leave and things like that? And it's tough because the Celtics have never really been able to keep Hayward, Kemba, Tatum, and Brown all healthy at the same time. And you would have thought coming out of a pandemic with all this giant layoff, this would have been the perfect time. I still think the Celts are in good shape. I'd probably have them 2A, 2B with the Raptors, and I don't even know who 2A is.

And then you think with the Bucs, home court advantage was such a big thing. It would have been so hard to go into Milwaukee, and you would have had to win one, possibly two games in a seven game series. They didn't really adequately figure out a way to reward the home court advantage. Like, if I was a Bucs fan, I'd be really bummed out. Wouldn't you? It's like, we just locked down this one seed. It basically means nothing. We're going to have a, we could be playing the Sixers

in round two and there's no home court. Like, what the fuck? Yeah. Congratulations, by the way. Talk about someone being woozy from the pandemic. You went 46 minutes without mentioning the Celtics. Thank you. That was unbelievable.

That's a record by 44 and a half minutes. They're the fifth best team in the league. They were going to come up at some point. Yeah, I would say if you're Toronto, and that's probably the 2-3, right? That's probably our second round, Raptors-Celtics. If Kemba is compromised,

I would have to say Toronto is a slight favorite in that series. What do you think, Cass? I totally agree with that. I just think this Toronto team is built for playoffs and they don't have young legs across the board. It's a mix of vets and some youngsters.

But Nick Nurse just blows me away. I just have so much respect for him and for Toronto. The young legs thing I think will matter more the last two rounds. The first two rounds, it's adrenaline, all that stuff. But I think once you get to round three, and it's still every other day, basically, that's when it gets dark. Do we have a... Is there a dark horse in the east?

I mean, I guess it would be Miami, unless somebody wants to make the Pacers case, where if Oladipo is actually semi-backed to being Oladipo, could they be dangerous? But I think that team's too goofy. I can't imagine them making the finals. Miami, you know, it's hard to imagine Jimmy Butler winning three straight rounds in the East and just outplaying other team superstars.

So I almost don't have a dark horse. What am I missing, Sal? Stay with them, though. You picked them in the beginning of the year, right, to win the Southeast, which is not an issue right now. But I don't know. Yeah, as long as Kevin Durant is out of the bubble, I don't know if there is a dark horse.

The net's at 500 to 1, but you can't count on any of that, right? The East is pretty solid up the top three or four. If we were just talking about most fun matchups, there's a world in which the 4-5 is Miami-Philly. And that has a lot of subplots. I think it's a bad matchup for Philly. That would be the team I would much rather play the Celtics than Miami, I think, if I'm Philly. And that would be a good one.

There's a world in which it's Celtics, Pacers, and then Miami, Sixers as our two. Doesn't seem like the Celtics can catch Toronto because they're three back. So it seems like they're pretty locked into the three seed. House, what, out of all the possible West round one matchups there, like there's a pot, you know, we could get a Houston Denver. Um, you could see a little, maybe OKC against the Clippers. Like what, is there a matchup that you're fired up for? I love both of those. I mean,

I'm dying for both of those. And I'm very excited to see who the Lakers play in the first round. I really admire what Memphis has done and really coming from out of nowhere. And to have the... I mean, John morant turned out to be a sensational number two pick and that's you know luck of the lottery ball but you know they they pull together a bunch of disparate young pieces pretty goddamn quickly to be in the position that they're in having said all that and and conveyed all that admiration i don't want them in the playoffs. I'd much rather see a team like Portland and then let's just beat this to death. Five

to one odds for Portland to grab that eighth seed with a roster that's legitimately like nine deep, ten deep. I still don't think that our guy Hazonia is still involved, which makes me nervous. The announcers today were calling him Rio. And I was like, you can start calling him Rio. I'm still going't think that our our guy Hazonia is still involved which makes me nervous the announcers today were calling

him Rio and I was like you can start calling him Rio I'm still going to think he sucks call him whatever name you want I still wouldn't want to see him in crunch time well let that be the bet we jump on I think that as much as you were dissuaded by the fact that they have to beat Memphis twice

you're right as soon as they beat him once we could hedge. And we never will. We never ever will. I think it's an incredible amount of pressure on the eight team. Yeah. On the eight seed.

Because, you know, in the back of your head, you're going, well, if we don't win this one, we still have them one more time. But Portland, it's life or death that first game.

Then you go to the second game, if they get there. And now it's like, well, we just beat you. Let's go again. And it's a really tough spot for, you know, you're talking about John Morant, Jaron Jackson, who really haven't played a meaningful NBA game ever.

Right. That's right. And that's not a knock. You're going to have these two play-in games that are going to feel like game seven of the finals these are like real sporting events

with ramifications we haven't had that for five months that could get the same rating that like the Eastern Conference finals would have gotten last year yeah

so it's a lot of pressure on those guys then you're going against Dame and CJ and all the other dudes but Dame and CJ specifically who've been in a million

big games they're not going to be scared. It's why that first game is so delicious. And there's got to be a betting angle for us on that very first game. I'm sure Portland's favored. You guys like the double elimination, right? I thought that was a really good wrinkle. I love it.

That is good for the Eastern Conference. Makes it more fair. Well, look, I do have a bet that I'm eyeing. It requires a favor. I don't know if you guys can help me with this. The Wizards are minus 10,000 to miss the playoffs, right? So I was just thinking, man, if I only had a super rich friend who could loan me a million dollars,

and I bet a million dollars on the Wizards to miss the playoffs. That's a fast $10,000 recovery, right? That feels like a sucker bet, though. Who's the sucker? What do you mean? This is already a rewatchable movie. The Gizzards are a G League team. You feel good about the nets though. They,

they would only have to jump. Basically they would only have to jump two wins on the nets and then they could potentially get a playing game against the nets who are similarly decimated. That's like, they're not similarly just decimated. The, the, uh, gizzards, um, over under is one and a half. That also happens to be how many NBA players they have on their team. The, the, uh, gizzards, um, over under is one and a half. That also happens to be how many NBA players they have on their team. And that's, if you add up three players that are three quarter, you know, uh, one third NBA player. What if you're on the wizards, if you're on the wizards and you're, and you come back with zero wins, you're expected to have one and a half and you have zero wins. How do you look your wife in the eyes? She's shaking

her head. You went out there, you son of a bitch, with all this terrible food, risking our lives, not even one win. It'd be like a Vietnam vet. House, you still have Rui Hachimura. Great. Who are the best three Nets players left? Oh, that's a good question.

Let me look at this roster real quick. So the Nets, they signed Michael Beasley, then he left. They signed Jamal Crawford, who I think is our age. They lost Spencer Danwitty, DeAndre Jordan, and Prince. And then

Tyler Johnson came back. They still have Jared Allen. And I guess it seems like Levert is still going to be in the mix house. So it's a Levert show. Jared Allen and Levert are already 10 times better than the Gizzard's best player. 10 times better than the gizzards best player 10 times that's how many that's uh how much more accomplished those two guys are than anybody that the gizzards are putting on the basketball

court do you still have isaac banga yes of course i think he's starting what's wrong with isaac you don't think he could step up this is great i can't't wait. Looking like Giannis could sit the first round, right? Is that an exaggeration? No, and that's why they should have had 14 playoff teams,

not 16. That was the move. And just be like, on the flip side, then Portland doesn't get to be in and that would have, that could end up

being the fun subplot. Any other, any other things, Sal? I think that's it. You know, it might be fun. These teams that are expected to win five and a half, I don't know. You have a bad week or so, a bad four or five-day stretch. Those are unders immediately, right? Lakers, Clippers, Bucs, Celtics.

I think three of those could go under five and a half wins. What do they care if they go five and three? I thought it was interesting the Nuggets were three and a half considering they're the three seed right now and Vegas is basically saying they can't even be 500. Let's do quickly the actual championship stuff because the Lakers are plus 250. Clippers are plus three,

25 bucks are three to one house gun to your head. Which one of those three you taken Clippers. I love the Clippers. I won't go against a Kauai. I think that they've been playing possum all season long. Their record when, when Paul George and Kauai play together is terrific. They can score 5,000 different ways, and the knock on them during the regular season was defense, but when they put their mind to it, when Kawhi and Paul George start playing playoff defense, the character of that team is going to be dramatically different from what we've seen to date. And I can't wait. And that's my pick, the Clippers.

There's a size thing with them in the Lakers that is problematic for them potentially. Would be that Davis against them just seemed like he was seven foot six. Now, if you've seen Davis recently, there's one picture of him going around where it looked like he had not had a problem finding food during the pandemic. He definitely looked bigger.

I don't know what was going on with that. I don't know if it was one picture, but I'm keeping an eye out on that. Sal, I agree with House. Yeah. Out of those three teams, I like the Clippers the most at plus 325. I think the Avery Bradley thing and the Rondo thing, even though those guys are fringe guys, they're role players, they have some real holes now.

I felt like they kind of had holes anyway with those guys because I don't even think they're that good. But at least if you watch them, Avery Bradley was playing big minutes against certain teams and was really their only above average defender against the Dame lower types. Yeah, I know.

It's a flawed team now. So I think the Clippers are a safer bet. I wouldn't be surprised if the Lakers won the title. I just think the Clippers are a safer bet. I think if you're talking about a difference of 75 cents or the Lakers are plus 250, Clippers are 325, I think you're thinking the right way because that's a long series no matter what, right?

That's six or seven games. So you're getting good value in that. And I could tell you right now, Lakers-Clippers, March 7th, I took the boys. Probably the last sporting event I'll ever attend. So there you go. Right. Well, and we left that weekend thinking the Lakers were the favorite to win the title and that they had the best team.

It's not quite the same team anymore. For sure. Whereas the Clippers seems like they have a chance to be the same team. And I know the Bucks fans are going to be mad now that we're just discounting them. We talk about young legs, Giannis, young legs. But I think that home court thing is going to hurt them. All right, before we go, let's do some golf really quick, House. We have the U.S. Open.

I don't know if you've heard of it. I'm familiar with the U.S. Open. You know there's a major that's going to come before it we have the Masters yeah why are you doing this out of order? the PGA Championship is in three weeks I know I was getting to it

I was saying with the US Open we have the Masters but before then as a hefty healthy appetizer more than an appetizer. Almost like when you would get dinner but eat an entire pizza before dinner and somehow that's okay.

It's like, why are you getting a pizza? We're going to dinner. It's like, I'm hungry. This is the PGA Championship is the pizza you get at 5 p.m. before the 7.30 dinner. Yes, okay. I like the way you did that.

I'm sorry I stepped on it. The PGA Championship starting August the 6th at Harding Park out in San Francisco. What a sports weekend that's going to be. Yeah. We're back. Yeah. It's happening.

Our wives hate us, but we are back. Tiger's going to play. Rory McIlroy's played well at this golf course. I think Jon Rahm, that's my... He's not a dark horse favorite. I mean, he's not a dark horse, but he... Because he'll be one of the top five guys, odds-wise. Let me look right now. The cheater, Jon Rahm.

Well, that was unintentional. I didn't know it. It was imperceptible. You know what I call it? A cheat. He cheated. He cheated the game of golf, that John Brown. It does. Are you talking about the ball moving in the ground?

Yes. Yeah. He cheated. Two dimples. It moved two dimples. It is curious that these guys put their golf clubs in. Yeah. But they're putting the golf club and setting it right behind the ball to sort of, you know.

Yeah. At some point, it really does seem like there's an opportunity. You think trial and error would teach them that it's going to move a little. I get so mad every time Jon Rahm wins a tournament

or Fleetwood because of all the money I've lost in them in all the different majors. And when Jon Rahm actually wins, I'm like, oh, now you motherfucker. Now you're going to win a tournament

when I have no money on you. Well, he's my pick for the PGA Championship. How else could you? Wow. I have him at on you? Well, he's my pick for the PGA Championship. Really? Wow. I have him at 10-1 on the Fando Sportsbook. So those are bad odds. You can't bet that.

Find better odds. Shop around. Yeah, exactly right. Don't bet Dustin Johnson house. I'm down on golf. I had him. I mean, you should really get your money back when the favorite in the tournament not only misses the cut and clocks in at plus eight, but withdraws in the first round. And I had him on a, we'll make the cut parlay. Did he withdraw today? Yeah, he withdrew. He got very close to shooting three consecutive rounds at 80 or worse. I'm

wondering what's wrong with him. I haven't seen the stories yet. I forget. It might be a wrist or a Romo withdrew with a wrist injury too. I'm getting confused. On the on the rejuvenated

excellent golf podcast Fairway Rolling Nathan Hubbard just coming in like like Brian Williams on the 97 Bulls really injected

Sal you're not allowed to hire either of them. They did a whole thing with Muirfield about how what kind of course it was for the players and how Muirfield was a second stroke course and how the tournament before last weekend, the guys who finished one, two, three

or in the top three were all in the top three for second shots, basically. Ball strikers. Ball strikers. Ball strikers. House, what kind of course should we be looking for for the PGA Championship? And can we use our same golf intelligence to figure how it favors certain players?

We're definitely going to do that. We have two preview shows the week of the tournament, Monday storylines. And then Wednesday we get down with the nitty gritty and give out some, some picks, some angles that we like. I remember this course. I haven't done the deep dive yet on the actual course.

It's TPC Harding park at named after Warren Harding, the worst president until this very moment. So there is a kind of logic that applies there. I have not done the research to see how they're setting it up for this tournament, but I recall they competed at a President's Cup there, and it does have a whole risk-reward element. So if you're a long ball hitter, there are some opportunities to go for some stuff in two,

and that's why Rory in particular might be a good guy to look at, but I'm sure his odds are bad also. And Beefy Bryson. Yeah, Beefy Bryson. Yeah, go ahead. Well, the odds, you had Jason Solbo on your podcast and he was explaining how the books, they love taking advantage of public sentiment when the public gets excited about certain guys. And so Bryson wins that tournament and the books just jack up his major odds to the point that you would think he's like fucking Tiger Woods in 2000 or something.

And it's like, no. Um, Sal, at the same time, you love seeing an overinflated guy gained 42 pounds and actually become successful. I don't know what the hell, what that's supposed to mean. It reminds me of Harry. Oh yeah. No, I love it. And then I fell for it too. And it's like, oh my God. And then you're like, oh yeah, when he's recording bogeys after a 437 yard tee shot,

like, yes, that's because the ball can only go straight for so long before it drifts into a trap. Oh yeah, I get it. This makes sense. So I'm out on Bryson right now. What about our guy Brooks, Hefz? Are we going to hear from Brooks this year? Are we just writing off 2020 for Brooks?

Knee injury, right? Yeah. So he did a press conference, one of the press conferences last week at the Memorial where he confessed that he had another MRI on his left knee, which was the knee that gave him trouble last fall, the knee that he had surgery MRI on his left knee, which was the knee that gave him trouble last fall, the knee that he had surgery on last December, the knee that kept him out of the President's Cup. And he came back in the February-March timeframe and was really kind of scuffling. So the break should have been terrific for him. And in fact, I know he was doing rehab because we connected with him very briefly and he was doing some exercises in his swimming pool.

But he confessed last week that he doesn't feel like the knee is progressing, that he still feels slightly uncomfortable walking downhill. The Memorial was the first tournament, Muirfield Village, as the venue, where it was hilly, and he had to go up the hills and down the hills, and he just felt uncomfortable. He shot under par today, which is good, and he's really battling his ass off. He needs to improve by 30 places in the FedEx Cup standings to make it,

to qualify for the 125 guys that compete for $15 million. And he's very cognizant of it, it seems, because he did not have Minnesota on his calendar, I guarantee it, four weeks ago. But we just need to watch him. I mean, if he can maintain and find some form and the knee doesn't get

in the way of it, then maybe we get some of the Brooks of old, especially with the first major arriving. Oh, I thought you were talking about Kimball Walker. I'm sorry. I got confused. You were talking about some of the bad knee who can't walk downhill. Oh, God. I'm sorry. House, this is the best time for golf.

I know you Tiger lovers will never admit it, but, boy, at the top of the leaderboard almost every week, this field this weekend isn't that great. But you have all the great now. Rory, Bryson, Bubba, everybody you want to look at. Jordan Spieth is an afterthought. You thought he was going to dominate the sport a couple of years ago. It's never been more fun.

Come on, admit it. Oh, I totally admit it. I got to say, it's kind of replaced baseball for me. Really? Over the last two years. Yeah, after I got that one last Red Sox World Series and the games just kept getting longer and longer and then the golf and doing the daily fantasy and the bets that we do kept getting longer and longer. And then the golf and doing

the daily fantasy and the bets that we do on the weekends and stuff. And I really like some of these guys and I feel like I know the guys. And the more you watch, the more kind of self-intel you have on different people and the courses. And I've really gotten into it. And I don't think it's a coincidence because I turned 50 this year and I'm now in the demo. Well, that's ridiculous. I see the ads for like, oh, low blood pressure. The ads, they run during it.

But I just really enjoy it. And I love how diverse of a talent pool it is from week to week, you know, where it's like, fucking Jon Rahm looks like the best player in the world one weekend

and three weeks before it was Bryson. It's really, they're in a good spot. It's not better than baseball. I try to throw it a bone. You don't have to go too crazy. But better than baseball. I just meant, like, would you rather watch the fourth round of a major,

or would you rather watch some four-and-a-half-hour Mets-Brewers game? Fourth round of the best tournament of the year. The fourth round of any tournament. I'll give you any tournament. The Saturday-Sunday, I find more compelling than baseball. Mets-Brewers. The no fans helps that it doesn't matter, even in the least, in golf. But you miss a few ba-ba-boos here and there.

But other than that. And you told on yourself, it is the perfect sport for us middle-aged dudes. What's better than a Saturday or Sunday afternoon? You put it on at 3 o'clock. You can doze off from like 4.30 to 5.15. Nothing's happening. And you wake back up and you see how guys are doing. You check on your bets.

It's super easy to bet on. There's an enormous menu variety of options. You can do head-to-heads. You can pick guys that win. You can pick guys that finish in the top 20. It's wonderful that way, and it lets you get some action going, get the juices flowing Wednesday night into Thursday if you want to do

the whole tournament, or if you want to go round-by-round. Exactly right. Round-by-round. I love betting it. You know what I hate about it? It makes me think every few weeks I watch, I'm like, okay, I've watched enough. I've trained myself into thinking I could actually play it it and then i went out the other day and it's like a 73 on a nine hole course it was awful so i i think it's so much more fun to bet on and do the daily fantasy

stuff than baseball is i have a lot of problems with the the the daily fantasy on baseball you might as well just throw shit against the wall. Like, oh, I love that guy. You know, Cole has the highest salary, and then he gives up seven runs. At least with the golf, it's like this four-day commitment you're making. Not if you have Dustin Johnson. It's on a four-day commission. Dustin Johnson's out.

The golf, you only need six guys, too. Baseball is impossible. There's way too many guys. Too many to fill. But the other thing with baseball is my team traded the best everyday player of my entire lifetime to another team who then proceeded to sign him for almost $400 million or whatever it was. And,

um, it's just a bummer. He's 27. And then I have my two Dodger fan friends who were texting me today and they're like, wow, Mookie's incredible. I'm like,

I fucking know. It's like, wow. His at bats are really, he is really something. I'm like, yeah, I know.

I watched him for five years. He was the best player we've ever had in the outfield. Um, it's pretty frustrating. Uh, all right. You guys want to do power corner really quick and then we'll go. Yeah,

sure. You want to go ahead? No, I don't have one. I need to, I need to think it up real quick. You know, we try to, I'm trying to think my youngest Harrison who we call Harris.

Oh, because someone forgot the end when they were doing a craft on in school and he had to wear this smock that said Harris. So, and he cried and I made fun of him for months. It's still to this day, he's pissed, but he gets back at me when he throws tantrums, like on the beach, I find a nice spot on the beach. We have a whole acre to ourselves. We don't have to wear masks.

And he acts like a little a-hole. And then, uh, and then it's time to leave. And I'm like, you know what? Let's get out of here. We're leaving right now. And I grab then it's time to leave and i'm like you know what let's get out of here we're leaving right now and i grab his mask out of the sand i'm like put this on we have to walk home i put it on i throw it on him we're walking we go about uh a hundred yards and the wife realizes that's not his mask his mask is in the back I grabbed a freaking random mask from the sand, which isn't too sterile as they go, and threw it on him. And she attacked

him with like a Clorox Gatorade bath all over the head and still scrubbing his face. And I look like jackass for the last week or so. So there you go. So you grabbed the wrong mask in Manhattan Beach. You have no idea where the other mask came from, how long it had been there.

Anything. It was a similar mask. He had a black mask with the Seth Rollins logo or whatever design on it. And I grabbed just a regular black mask from the sand, which was by my feet. So, um, yeah, so don't, don't do that. How, how old is Harris? Oh, I don't know. It was like a zoom drive-by somewhere.

Well, if he's under 10, he's fine. The under 10 is indestructible. So you could do anything with that. I think he's under 10. I'm going to check. I think you're right. I think he is under 10. That's a relief.

My son, when he was like three, he basically sliced his pinky finger off. And it was like dangling. And within three weeks, it was like dangling. And within three weeks it was like, could completely regenerated and healed. Like it really, little kids are amazing. It's crazy. We can't just take their blood and hemoglobin and just solve all issues that

we have in life with just like the three-year-old blood cells. so, Oh, I forgot to ask that. Was there tears from your wife? Was this an actual, did she actually cry? Uh, I don't think she did. She, she held back. She was on such a mission to save his life as we, we had no idea what was going to happen, but no, no tears yet. Wow. Okay. Um, I'll go. Cause, uh, my son is, I think he might actually be at children's hospital now.

So I'll, I'll go backwards. Oh, um, you know, my son broke his foot playing football and was in a cast for the first six, eight weeks of the pandemic. And then it healed and he slowly worked his way back to become the maniac that

he was before he got hurt. Not a lot to do during a pandemic, not a lot of sports, not, you know, basketball in the backyard, stuff like that. All of a sudden skateboard skateboarding started happening and it started to happen in the backyard and then the driveway. And then it was, I'm going to put my mask and go around the neighborhood. And then all of a sudden, him and his friend, Luchi, who you know is the rap group Tic Tac and Melatonin.

Now they're going to skate parks. And it's just kind of evolving as everyone loses their mind during the pandemic. And my wife and I are kind of like, when do we throw our bodies in front of this? We don't. And he starts being able to do tricks. He's starting to, you know, send us clips of things. And we're just like, this is so needless to say yesterday, uh, he, he hurt his foot.

He might have a broken bone in the other foot, which we're finding. Yeah. He might've hurt the other foot. He's like the Bill Walton of, of sons. Um, and it's his fault cause he wasn't wearing the white shoes and his shoe rolled and, uh, and now he's not, now he's quitting skateboarding, but we know he's not going to. And, um, this pandemic is just like, how do you parent your kids after a while? You can't stop them from doing things. They're so bored.

There's nothing to do. And now it was like the inevitable skateboarding injury. But the moral of the story is I hate skateboarding. I hated it before this happened. I hate the kids who do it in LA. They always look like little shits that need to have their face slapped. And now my son is one of those little shits and hurt his foot. Well, don't worry. I mean, everyone's going back to school in February, so we're almost there. Really close. Yeah. And

then they just, the house, they announced the last week that the, all the high school sports got pushed to the spring basically. Right. So my daughter allegedly is going to have soccer starting the end of February, but the club's not moving. And then it's like either pick between your high school or your club, or you'll be able to do both. And nobody's going to govern any of this. And you're going to have these kids, unless they have good parents who actually look out for them

in these situations where they might be playing like five soccer games in a week or six lacrosse games in a week or whatever because they're going to be trying to juggle the two things. And the coaches on both sides are incentivized to get whatever they can out of the kids. It's going to be like an epic run of injuries for everybody. Nobody's governing any of this stuff.

I mean, anyway. House? I don't have any particular anecdote. There's nobody's governing any of this stuff. I mean, anyway, house, um, I don't have any particular anecdote. I just wanted to, um, share the, the, the parent failure,

uh, aspect of this. And you, you, you just hit on it. I mean, the, the,

the kids are, are under duress. So, you know, we have, uh, the, the,

the number of, uh, days a week that he actually changes from pajamas into clothes to go outside of the house as opposed to pajamas into more pajamas. That's a five and a half days a week. That's like, you know, if you set the over under at five and a half number of days and he goes pajamas to pajamas and the other aspect for sure is like we have turned into his his like wait staff because he basically goes he has his his uh circuit is the basement where fortnite is the second level where he plays roblox on a computer and then outside when we threaten to starve him unless he goes outside for 20 minutes to catch vitamin D. Yeah, vitamin D.

That's exactly right. But, you know, when he's in the house and he's occupied with the games and everything, he has food allergies. And so we have his whole life, you know, been kind of insistent about preparing food for him. So now he tells us when he's ready to eat what he wants he goes through the menu i'd like the pasta with the red sauce and can you please add the the ground beef today oh oh is that what you'd like your your your highness no no today uh can you get the tater tots i want the tater tots from this particular restaurant and i'd like you to make the tenderloin i'd like the tenderloin that you know like well what are you talking about you little son of a bitch go in there and get a piece

of cheese i get your cheese out of there and feed yourself we even took the cocoa pebbles and put them on a level where he could pour himself a bowl guess how many bowls this has been the boxes was there in that place for two months we said said, you go pour your own bowl of Cocoa Pebbles. Guess how many bowl of Cocoa Pebbles he's poured for himself. It begins with a Z and ends with a Eero zero. So, I mean, this, this is,

and then, you know what? I'm fine with it. I really, what, what is there to fight? What are we, what are we going to argue about?

We're all just trying to maintain. And if he comes out way ahead, you know, living the bed the the life that a nine-year-old wants to live then then god bless it one of us is happy and i'm fine with it simmons let me ask you which would have higher odds going into this that i have a son that's six foot one or that house has a son with food allergies. It doesn't seem right in any case. House is allergic to not eating.

Yeah, right. Somehow he's a kid with food allergies. I would say your giant mutant son is definitely, that's the favorite. Every time you post an Instagram photo of him, it looks like a picture of House next to George Mirosan or something. It's embarrassing. I don't understand it.

I don't know what to do anymore. It's not funny. What's been the situation with your oldest son and his significant other? They're still going strong. You're letting them hang out? We're trusting that they're not seeing other people. Yeah, just, you know, I know you're doing the same, right? Yeah, we have.

We've been really careful but i think like everybody else it becomes this thing where you pick like the one or two couples slash families that you can hang out with you extend your circle and you kind of trust that they're not hanging out with whoever um and it's really interesting who gets let into that group. Because it can't be like seven different, you know, it's just like wide open who you hang out with. And I have some friends that won't hang out, especially in the East Coast, who like haven't seen any of their friends. They're just like, I'm out.

Until we get a vaccine, I'm not seeing anybody. We've kind of been a hybrid of that, but we've let my daughter's boyfriend has come over a few times. There's just no way around it. Yeah. I mean, we're all hypocrites. Aren't we all hypocrites? Very, very, very few people are playing by the rules, whatever their rule, right? I mean, I set rules and then I'm like, oh, I need to walk down this stretch without a mask so I could talk on the phone, but I just have to. If I see a person, I'll throw it up and then somebody runs behind me. I'm like, oh, wow. I probably should have had it on there, but, uh, it's so hard. It really is hard. And nobody agrees on anything. Like we

can't agree where houses in Washington and nobody can agree on schools in our own community. It's still 50, 50. Well, now we're putting teachers in the position to have to make decisions for their own safety on whether they want to teach. Like, God forbid anybody oversigning. It's been the most discouraging year of all time, at least in my lifetime. And just the fact that we could have handled this at mid-March and we went through all the shit we went through for those three, four weeks to be like, all right, cool. Everybody, let's do this. And then most people did it and some people,

and now it's worse. LA is like a fucking war zone right now. By the way, we're going to look back at this third week in July when we were pretty sure our kids weren't going back to school as like the Renaissance period, because we still have an election and everything else and craziness and wait till we hit october or november and everyone's like coughing from the flu but you can't trust that it's a flu or whatever it is and then sal sal and i have mayor garcetti who has been on this podcast and who i liked yeah but any any hand la and california handled their business perfectly for i think for at least the first six to eight weeks. But now Garcetti let everybody kind of become normal again way too soon.

And we had this disastrous Memorial Day weekend where the beaches were fucking packed. The bars, the rest, the indoor dining, all that shit. It was like nothing had happened. And then of course, now it's a disaster. And he had this quote the other day. He was like, I'm very close to having another stay-at-home order. It's like, just fucking do it. Just do another stay-at-home order.

What are you waiting for? And he clearly doesn't want to do it because then people will be like, well, this is your fault because you and Newsom and all the people out here, this is your fault that we're in this situation because you told everybody to go live their lives again before, and it was a mistake. So he doesn't want to go on the record with the double stay at home order. But guess what? We need another stay at home order. It's so frustrating. At least now, most people realize that this is a real virus that transfers to people. And it seems like that as at least a known thing, right?

Like young people are getting it now and people in their twenties and thirties and undeniable that this virus exists and it's bad. Yeah. Like that. I was trying to think like from our leaders, like, okay, if you're laughing at the prospect of wearing a mask,

you must think that it spreads just by coincidence, right? Like what's, how is this getting around? How is this still alive and stronger than ever six months later or five months later? It's so depressing. I mean, we have two times as many cases as Brazil. Yeah. Like, what the fuck? We're supposed to be a you know, we're supposed to be a number one seed in the tournament of just people who, countries that know their shit.

We'll get it together. Well, at least we have sports, guys. Strong fourth quarter coming. At least we have golf. We have basketball in the bubble. We probably have baseball for another two weeks till they fuck that up. UFC is around.

UFC is around? I'm going to go make three hot dogs. I'm going to go put three hot dogs in the grill and that'll help improve my outlook on everything. I thought you were allergic. Just don't rank donuts. Not me. Not me. Don't rank your donuts. Whatever you do. Sal, when does how many football games, how

many regular season games per team are going to be played this year? That's so funny because I did talk to a guy in the NFLPA and he's like, get used to your favorite team forfeiting two, two and a half games. I was like, how much is that going to suck? So I don't know. All I know is locking in is back on Monday

with or without sports. We're in that studio. We're wearing masks every minute. We're not on the air and we're pushing. Why are you in a studio? Why don't you all do it remotely? It doesn't make a lot of sense, right? Seeing that we're never in the same shot, except for maybe a couple of squares.

We have to prove that we're okay and we can move through this. All right. So lock it in. And then your podcast is launching on Monday. Extra points. Go to more details to come. Is Louis K in your life? Louis K is setting the press release on Monday.

Baby doll already yelled about the first couple drafts. And yeah, so we're getting that done too. All right. You're not allowed to hire House. House is, I know, he's all yours. House is a whore. He'll go wherever. He doesn't care.

That is a fact. I just want somebody to lend me a million bucks so I can bet against the Wizards. Seven hot dogs. We'll get on that. We'll ask people out there. Go fund me for House's wizard's bet. 10 to 1.

All right. House and Sal, a pleasure. It's always good to see you guys. Talk to you soon. Good job, IU. Good job, IU, buddies. All right. Thanks to Zip Critter.

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