The Bill Simmons Podcast - The Super Bowl LVIII Props Mega-Special With Cousin Sal
Episode Date: February 5, 2024The Ringer's Bill Simmons is joined by Cousin Sal to discuss their Super Bowl bet win-loss record for the 21st century (2:53) before running through their favorite prop bets for Super Bowl LVIII (19:4...7). Finally, they find some values in NBA awards and conference winner odds (1:04:16) before closing the show with Parent Corner (1:16:47). Host: Bill Simmons Guest: Cousin Sal Producer: Kyle Crichton The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming, please checkout theringer.com/RG to find out more or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Super Bowl props.
What Super Bowl are we up to?
I don't even know.
We're in like the high 50s.
What is this, Sal?
It's LCCQM, isn't it?
No, it's 58.
58. Super Bowl 58. Who are the great 58 isn't it? No, it's 58. Simple 58.
Who are the great 58s in
sports? I can't even think.
Jack Lambert, right? Oh, Jack
Lambert. That's a good one. No great ones in
basketball.
58. Great.
We've known each other since
Raiders
Tampa.
Yeah, that was the first one. We watched that one Since Raiders Tampa? Yeah.
Yeah.
That was the first one.
Yep.
We watched that one together in our producer, Daniel Collison's office.
We made a bunch of bets and I feel like we won most of them.
I was going to go through with you and you just tell me blind.
I'm going to throw the Super Bowl at you.
21st century Super Bowls.
Did you win money or lose money?
Just blind. Blink test. Blind? We could do this deaf if you want.st century Super Bowls. Did you win money or lose money? Just blind. Blink test.
Blind? We could do this deaf if you want. I could just say lost for all of them.
Go ahead. Yeah. All right. First one.
2000. St. Louis beats Tennessee.
Win or lose? Push.
It was seven, right?
I remember taking the spread there. Listen,
I probably lost on a million props, but I
pushed on the spread. Yeah. I don't have fond
memories of that one. Next one was Baltimore Giants.
This is my greatest Super Bowl I've ever had.
I won everything.
Yeah, I think I listened to you on that and I won with this.
The field touchdown.
Brandon Stokely caught the first one.
It's like one of the great gambling days of my life.
Next one was Pats Rams.
Another one where I cleaned up because the Pats were like getting 14.
That was not as good for you.
Lost by a mile.
And even worse,
I told Jimmy to pick the Pats
in an upset on Fox
because it'll end up looking good.
And when he was jumping for joy,
we're in the stadium
and he's like,
why are you so upset?
And I was like,
I just lost $1,000.
He's like,
why are you so upset?
Could you loan me money right now?
Tampa, Oakland, we watched together. We cleaned
up. New England, Carolina.
I feel like I lost. The Pats
won, but I think I lost money because they didn't
cover, right? I think I lost too. That
was the John Casey bowl and I feel like I
right when I dressed as Casey for
media day and I
lost. So I feel like I got some karma thrown
my way. Yeah. So Sal goes to media day, pretends he's John so i feel like i got some karma thrown my way yeah so sal goes to
media day pretends he's john casey and these dumb ass media people are going up and doing interviews
then john casey gets mad and then they tie the game late john casey kicks the kickoff out of
bounce and everyone blamed you my fault yeah blame me or praised me yeah your patriots really
owe me i should get a ring actually for that one know what? You're a hero to Patriots Nation
for that one.
Thank you.
The next one was New England-Philly
where New England wins
and doesn't cover.
Wait, do we have a name
for when a team wins
but does not cover?
Yeah, I don't know.
It never really happened
that much, right?
Up until, maybe it's happened
in the last few years.
I can't keep track,
but there was...
It just happened with the
Niners-Lions game. It's like, oh, I had that keep track, but there was... It just happened with the Niners-Lions game.
It's like,
oh, I had that game right,
but it didn't cover.
It's just like ambivalence.
It's like the ambivalent...
Yeah.
What is it?
I haven't thought about it,
but ambivalence,
like giving up...
Lentz, giving it up for Lentz.
The imbivable?
Yeah.
I don't have fond memories
of that one either.
Pittsburgh-Seattle. I won on that one. Yeah. I don't have fond memories of that one either. Pittsburgh, Seattle.
I won on that one.
I think I had Seattle.
You did.
I think I got killed on that one.
That was a rough one.
Indy, Chicago, we all won because all of us, it was our one chance to bid against Rex Grossman.
That was great.
Right.
Giants 17, Pats 14, February 3rd, 2008.
I lost in every aspect of gambling life
it was one of the worst sporting
events of my life I was there with my dad
for his 60th birthday but you
did you bet on the Giants in that one?
I lost both those Patriots Giants games
I thought the Patriots were much better
I like the Giants don't belong here
the Giants beat my Cowboys
that was a great Cowboys team too
and yeah that was despicable by your team.
I also couldn't root for either of those teams.
It was rough.
I think Giants' money line with the under
was at least like 11-1 or 12-1.
Like anybody who did those
before they kind of figured out
to maybe adjust the under with the team
that was obviously if they won,
it was going to go under.
Pittsburgh, Arizona, we watched together.
This is fondly remembered by us as when you created the Gary Russell prop.
That's right. We'll get to that later.
Pittsburgh won, and I think we won money on this.
I think we had the Steelers. I have fond memories of this one.
Yeah, you look back at that. It's a miracle that we won that,
even if we had Steelers' money line, which I think we had.
Packers, Steelers. Did you go to this with me?
This was in Dallas and it
there was like a
sleet storm
and nobody showed up
and I was sitting
50 yard line
but Pittsburgh
I didn't go to that
I think I had Pittsburgh
in that one
I had Pittsburgh also
yeah
Giants beat the Pats
I lost
you lost
me too
Baltimore
San Francisco
in New Orleans
the blackout bowl
I was at this game
and I think I had San Francisco
and they had first and goal in the four.
You had to shoot a bit after.
I think we lost on this one.
I left.
I definitely lost on this one,
but the bit was to console fans
from the losing team immediately
as they walked out of the stadium.
So I walked out with producer Dave Jacoby.
It's like, hey, we got to go.
We can't watch the ending of this.
Otherwise, you're not going to be there.
I was like, shit, he's right.
And then I honestly didn't know who won the game
because it wasn't like we had phones
with the capability of streaming or anything there at that point.
So the first 50 fans that walked out,
I had no idea who was happy and who wasn't.
So yeah, that was a weird one.
I lost.
And then you found out you lost money and you consoled yourself.
Yeah. That's a big hug around my fat torso. Yeah.
Seattle 43, Denver 8 was a big one for me. Terrible Super Bowl, but I enjoyed that one.
Pats 28, Seattle 24, won money on that. Denver 24, Carolina 10. I feel like we had Denver in
this because of their defense. We watched that together.
Yeah, we did. Okay, those were good years.
Kornheiser watched that with us, right?
Yeah.
Pats, Falcons,
34-28. This was
an absolute gold mine.
Pats win, everything over,
every Brady prop.
It was just a wonderful everything.
I watched that with Nephew Kyle. I watched that with nephew Kyle.
I watched that with my son, Ben, my wife, my daughter. We changed seats at halftime. We don't
get credit for what happened. But I was terrible. I was terrible. I'm sorry. Just 28-3, obviously.
I thought I was smart. I bought the Falcons to plus three and a half. So even with that comeback,
I'm like, okay, let the Patriots win by three in overtime.
No,
not a chance.
I think we did
a podcast that night
and you were like
semi-comatose.
It was one of your
sadder performances.
Well,
it came back
and bit me next year
with Philadelphia 41,
New England 33.
Yeah.
Pats beat the Rams 13-3.
I won on this one.
Fond memories. Kansas City 31, San Francisco-3. I won on this one. Fond memories.
Kansas City 31, San Francisco 20.
Lost.
Jimmy Garoppolo.
Sales it.
I lost that too.
Yep.
Up 10-4.
Tampa 31, Kansas City 9.
I won on that one.
How'd you do on that one?
I lost on that.
I had my homes there.
I was anti-Brady for that one.
Rams 23, Cincy 20.
I think I had Rams money line, but the big one was Cooper Cup.
All the props with him.
But the one that was the murder was the Odell Beckham over,
because remember he hurt his knee.
Right.
That's right.
Yeah, I had Moneyline too.
We were at that game.
That was obviously here.
Yeah.
And then the last one, Kansas City, Philly last year,
I kind of got wiped in
that one. So I'm going to say I'm like, I feel like I'm slightly up for the century. So now that
we just recapped this, are you slightly up, medium or slightly down? What would you say?
Is this the question we ask St. Peter when we get to the pearly gates? Like, hey, am I up or down
for the century? It might be one of my first three questions. Hey, can you give a running tally up
here?
You know, it's a weird thing because I'm down because I'm down in the dumps.
I'm always like, even if you win, it's a double-edged sword because I can't be too excited because there's no football afterwards. So I feel like I'm down.
Well, we didn't have football this weekend.
I know you bet on Pro Bowl stuff.
I know you did stupid bets.
What'd you do?
Tell us.
Nothing.
No, even worse.
I did English Premier games at six in the morning.
I'm waking the family up screaming.
So no, I stayed away from the Pro Bowl.
I'm proud of myself in that regard.
You did nothing?
Like literally you didn't do leg and over?
Wow.
I really didn't do it.
It's a flag football game.
It's not even a real thing.
It's weird.
The funny thing is you don't even like soccer.
I know.
I know.
It doesn't matter.
You literally don't.
I'm paying for Peacock.
I'm watching it.
God damn it.
Three kids.
I don't think any of them played soccer for more than a year.
I got time.
They'll pick it up in their 30s.
Well, we've had a week to stare at this Super Bowl
with the Chiefs and the Niners.
And when we did guess the lines last week,
I think I guessed one and a half.
It bounced around.
It was one and a half, two.
Now it's two and a half as we tape this on a Sunday night.
Where does it go?
Where does it land?
Where does it end?
Well, you're going to give me the title because you changed your guess to Tic Tac,
one and a half, and I had two. So now it's two and a half. Yeah, I don't think it'll go to three,
but just from casual people you talk to, you've been on the road for a week now.
Everyone's asking who you're picking and every bonehead is like, I don't know,
I'm taking the Chiefs, right?
Yes.
And so is the money that sharp that it could turn to Niners minus three?
And is that even the right side anyway?
I don't know.
I think it's getting too rich.
And we even did this.
I'm guilty of it.
The podcast we did last Sunday night.
Never betting against Mahomes again.
The more I thought about that game over the next two
days as I'm flying around and
walking around trying to get my
steps in and just thinking about
how did I go wrong? How did I get both games
wrong? Because I really like my picks.
I'm looking at it and I'm like, the Chiefs didn't score
in the second half. They scored
17 points.
Baltimore was the right pick. They
fucking sucked. I swore on FanDuel TV. Sorry,
FanDuel, you have to bleep me. They stunk. Even if you go, the Zay Flowers reach over and they're
throwing a triple coverage. You just get changed the outcome of those two plays and maybe they win.
But I don't feel like the Ravens were the wrong pick. But what I will say, what I have thought about over and over again,
I'm not the first person to make this point.
It does feel like Mahomes is at this level now
where he psychs the other team out
or he psychs the other QB out
or there's some sort of,
especially when he gets a lead
and the other team just completely panics
and changes their identity.
The podcast we did a week ago, we were like, what happened to the Ravens? Why'd they panic? What happened to Lamar?
Why didn't they run the ball? And it's like, there's something about him. And Brady, I think,
had this too, where you're just like, and you get discombobulated. And I'm sure they must be
watching that tape now and they must be like punching themselves in the face.
Yeah. Yeah. I think there is an element of a grownup playing, you know, one-on-one basketball with his six
year old son.
Like, all right, I'll let you shoot on me and I'll let you score or whatever.
But when push comes to shove, I'm going to hit Valdez Scantling on a play that's going
to be everyone else's best play of the year.
But it's just like Mahomes is 50th best.
So I think we're probably waiting on giving our picks, right?
We're going to get a whole bunch of props today.
But one way I'm looking at it is which units surprised you the most from these two teams?
I can't believe how good the Chiefs defense is.
I think they've allowed three points in the fourth quarter for all three playoff games
combined.
And I can't believe how weak the Niners defense is.
So those are my two surprises.
That's kind of how I'm going to start to analyze it,
I think, from there.
Yeah, was Hufanga this good?
That their whole defense collapsed?
I was looking...
I'm leaning toward the Chiefs,
and it might change by the time we get to Thursday,
but I was looking at the San Francisco defensive stats. Just for just for Detroit green Bay and the Baltimore game near the end of
the year, you know, Detroit had 28 first downs and 442 yards. They ran 29 for one 82. Yeah. And
they blew a couple of fourth downs. They had a fumble in their own territory. You know, it's,
it, they moved the ball the whole game and they, you know, that's game. That was one of the worst losses we've seen in a
while where your coach screwed stuff up. Your players made bad plays at the dumbest times.
You lost an interception that hit somebody in the helmet, bounced in the air for a 50-yarder.
Green Bay the week before, 330, 21st downs. They ran for 28 for 136.
And then Baltimore near the end of the season, 343, 23 first downs.
They ran 26 for 102.
And the Chiefs feel like they're in the proximity of those offenses.
Maybe they're not as explosive as Detroit,
but they're not going to be worse than those offenses, right?
And what they're not going to do is they're not going to abandon what's working, right?
So you said Aaron Jones was running all over the 49ers,
as was the Montgomery-Gibbs combo was giving them a fit.
They looked faster than the Niners' defense.
I think Andy Reid, plus the whole thing when he has two weeks to prepare,
all that stuff stuff throw that aside
but yeah I don't think they're going to screw that part of it up Joe House I don't know do you know
him he's does some stuff yeah good eater in his day yeah he uh he put his foot in the sand of
San Francisco would not be the fourth best team in the AFC wow Was one of his takes on East Coast bias on Thursday, which
San Francisco
is pretty explosive at least. You got to
give it to their offense. But I
keep playing this game out of my head.
You saw what Kansas City did
last week where that first hour, we
talked about it last week on the pod. They just threw
the kitchen sink at San Francisco.
Pacheco had 14
carries. Kelsey had nine catches.
Rice had six catches.
They ran all their best plays for like an hour and 10 minutes,
and then they kind of held on.
On the flip side, Purdy really takes a while to get going.
I was looking at some of his splits and stuff,
and you can see it.
If it goes first quarter, second quarter, third quarter,
fourth quarter, he gets better as the game goes along. By the fourth quarter, he's 12.2 yards
per pass. The first quarter, he's like eight and it takes him a while. And one of the things I was
thinking about was the Super Bowl, which we always talk about how disjointed it is. And the pregame's
forever and it's hard to get it on the field.
You're on the field
and it's just,
everything feels so long.
Then you have the first half
and then you have this
40-minute halftime
and then you go again.
I think it's a real disadvantage
for a first-time quarterback.
So the combo of Casey
starting fast
and then Purdy starting slow,
that, I keep thinking about that
in my head, right?
Yeah, it's not even starting.
I mean, definitely starting slow, but he plays a different game, doesn't he? In the first half or first
quarter and a half, he will let the pocket crumble around him. He doesn't take off. He had like three
15-yard plus runs. They were all in the second half. What are you doing? Why are you letting
this? Why aren't you stepping up in the pocket? He did that against Green Bay. He did that against Detroit.
It's going to be tough
if he does that against Kansas City.
I feel like he'll go down a lot
if that's,
and combined with the butterflies
and everything else
for a first-time quarterback.
We're going to take a break
and then we're going to talk about narratives
and we're going to do some props.
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So I'm going to throw narratives at you.
The game is over on Sunday.
You're stuffed because you ate too much.
You're probably mad because you probably lost
more than you won on all your collective bets.
You're a little groggy.
Probably had $11,000 on the chiefs who covered in one.
And then I lost 16 grand in props.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
And now you're thinking about us doing the pod that night.
What's the lead of the pod.
Let's talk about the possibilities that the one would be if it was an
incredible game and we start,
Oh my God,
that game,
we do that thing.
The second I think would be my homes. All right. This is, this is three. Now this is, you know, this is, this is now
officially on and all day. We go that route. Then there's a Brock Purdy going that way,
or it's like Brock Purdy, unbelievable. Mr. Irrelevant. How did he do this? Nobody thought
all the money was in the chiefs. The line dropped to one.
What other narratives could you see leading the podcast a week from now?
You're saying positive, right?
Because this would be a great win for us.
Yeah, because I have to say one of my New Year's resolutions was to try to analyze these games from a positive perspective.
And it's not easy to do, right?
You want to go after how did the Lions blow that?
Dan Campbell sucks. That's your first thing. But I think those are all good.
Shanahan got the monkey off his back. That'll be a big thing, right?
What if there was a Kelsey MVP, Taylor Swift, Grammys tonight announced her new album. I think
it's called Dead Poets Society. I didn't get the title.
Sounds right.
Whatever it was.
But Kelsey wins the MVP.
He kisses Taylor Swift.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
We're going to Disney World.
And half of the nation just gets completely pissed off
and we're close to a civil war after that.
They go into the blue tent.
They head into the blue tent.
A camera opens it up, catches them nude.
We have to reproduce.
We have to create the most special
baby America has ever had.
Super baby. Yeah.
Yeah, I think that's...
Honestly, no matter what,
that's going to be it, right? Taylor was
good for this team, or
the league fixed it so that the
Chiefs won, or yeah, screw you
conspiracy theorists. The Niners won by 10, yeah, screw you, conspiracy theorists.
The Niners won by 10.
So what are you talking about, right?
I think we have to leave that.
I'm glad we talked this out because you're right.
Either way, it's Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey.
Somehow it becomes the lead.
Maybe not on our podcast, but just in general.
Okay.
We're going to do some props.
This is your favorite.
I would say, I don't know, how many
days have you been immersed in
props now at this point? Like three or four?
It's a lot. And yeah, there's only
been a few instances where there's been one week between
the championship games and the Super Bowl,
but I almost think it's almost too long
to study for a final exam.
I mean, they did a great job, Vandal, with
these and they're like, no, no, there's more to come.
Early, middle of the week.
I was like, it's like when you come home from college
and your mother makes corn fritters
and then coconut shrimp.
It's like, stop, it's too much.
It's too much fried food.
I need to slow down.
Yeah, I found almost everything I wanted to find.
They don't have some of the cross sports stuff yet.
Right, yeah.
Because it's too hard with the NBA
to even know who's playing.
But let's go.
Let's just throw some
favorite props out.
You go first.
All right.
I'm going to throw a couple.
Well, first of all,
let's start at the beginning.
Tails.
30 tails,
27 heads
in the 57 Super Bowls.
Oh.
It won last year,
tails, right?
Remember,
Sirianni was sobbing
or maybe that was the anthem
I'm not sure
coin toss or the anthem
but Simmons
you and I established
last week
that we believe in momentum
and that's how
Purdy was able to
come back against the Lions
I believe in the momentum
of tails
I'm going tails
minus 104
why is minus 104
no I do
minus 104
they just get
a 4% vig
either way.
That's right.
That's right.
Okay.
You want to go alternate?
How should we do?
Can we go a little earlier than the coin toss?
Oh, yeah.
Sure.
How much have you dove into Reba McIntyre
and this over-under for the anthem?
Right now, it's 86 seconds,
and that might go up,
and there's some juice on that. It's
minus 145, minus 150 range, which seems super fast because we've had overrunners for this that
have gone over two minutes. One year we had our buddy, PR, Maven, Louis K was in the stadium and
tipped us off and then was like, don't talk about this on the podcast.
I might get in trouble.
And then we immediately did.
What was it?
Do you remember what anthem that was?
I don't know.
I think he was right.
I think.
No, he was right.
He gave us a winner.
So try to lock these down.
But what you said, a minute 26.
Yeah.
A minute 26.
So here's the last six. Yeah, I'm looking. Stapleton 205. A minute 26. So here's the last six.
Yeah, I'm looking.
Stapleton 205.
That went under.
Mickey Guyton 135 went over.
Jasmine Sullivan and Eric Church 159 over.
Demi Lovato 155 under.
Gladys Knight 147 over.
And then Pink was two minutes under.
So this is the shortest over under we've had in a
while and i like the other stuff you could go back even more uh no one's hit 126 i'm not i'm looking
at the list of in 30 years in 20 years 140 billy joel carrie underwood kelly clarkson 2012 was 134
that was the shortest so you. So you think Reba,
I mean,
she could probably put some action on herself.
Have we had a national anthem betting scandal yet?
No, you're right. It's the easiest thing to rig.
Yeah.
I don't know.
We got to find out what her plans are afterwards,
why she's trying to get the hell out of there so quickly.
Could she parlay herself with an adjusted,
118 adjusted,
and she's just like,
oh, say, can you see?
She's flying through it.
She's skipped six lines.
All right.
Oh, and speaking of a music thing, Usher, one of the props was him playing Yeah!
as plus 200 as the favorite for opening song.
Just coming out with that one.
I like the plus odds.
You like for that one?
Yeah.
Okay.
Because he comes out,
he's like,
yeah,
yeah.
Everybody's like,
yeah.
Like dancers,
things coming around.
I like it.
You can't disagree with,
yeah.
I mean,
the opposite is no.
It's a yeah kind of mood.
There's one 14 to one odds
Jim Nance mistakes usher
for John Legend
and is immediately canceled.
So that, I don't know.
Does Fandle have that?
I'm not sure.
That's not John Legend, Jim.
That's not sure.
Jim, you might want to take that back, Jim.
Jim, you rushed to judgment there, Jim.
All right.
What do you got?
You're up.
All right.
I'm going to give you one, though.
These odds aren't that great. I'm going to give you one, though. These odds aren't that great.
I'm going to give you a two or three,
but they hit for crying out loud.
Any player to score two or more touchdowns,
minus 165.
Again, I'm not doing you any favors with the VIG,
but last year, Hertz had three.
Higgins and Kup both had two the year before.
Gronk the year before that had two.
Damian Williams had two for the Chiefs
the last time they beat the Niners. Gronk again year before that had two. Damian Williams had two for the Chiefs the last time they beat the Niners.
Gronk again versus the Eagles.
James White, two or more.
I mean, two or more touchdowns by a player in six of the last seven.
And between Kelsey and CMC and Samuel, Kittle, and Ayuk, that's a lot of nice options.
I just feel like quarterbacks don't want to rock the boat if something's working in this game
where there's a bundle of nerves surrounding the participants.
So I like that.
That's a really good one, cuz.
I like it.
All right, I'm going to go big on this one.
With a big player here.
Okay.
Mahomes under 262.5 pass yards.
Ooh.
His last five weeks, 242, 215, 262, 24 pass yards. Ooh. His last five weeks,
242, 215, 262, 245, 235.
Since week nine,
three of 12 games over 262.
And I also think they've changed how they played.
Like, I really think they want long drives,
shorter games, move down the field.
I think that Vegas game,
when that game was so embarrassing
and they had some sort of come to Jesus moment.
And since then, they just want these seven minute drives.
They want to shorten the game.
They just feel like they can win any 21-17,
you know, 20-17, 24-20, like just anything in that range.
And I don't see him airing it out
what's the best case scenario for Kelsey
probably what he did last week it's like 11 catches
for 100 Rice had a really good game too
and he still didn't get there
so the only thing that worries me is McKinnon's back
which is a better
third down pass guy for him
and you could always get the one long pass
that would F this up.
But I just don't see him chucking around.
I think they're going to have long drives.
I love this.
Every year his air yards go down and down and down.
And it doesn't mean he's worse.
I love this.
I'm going to put two stars by this
because I think people will bet this over.
Just be like, oh, Mahomes, I want to bet over.
I want to bet Mahomes this and Mahomes that.
But I think it comes in under, you're right. They play a different game. And you're really
going to have to take them out of their game plan to hit 263 or more. I think they'd have to be
losing by 10 or more. I just don't see that in the second quarter. Otherwise, you're right.
Just short stuff over the middle, screen plays, Mahomes doing what he's doing.
Or the game goes to overtime and you get screwed that way.
I went to the Knicks-Lakers game with Dave Jacoby,
who loves using FanDuel.
And he's all excited.
He's like, LeBron, 25 points over.
I have that with the Lakers.
And I'm like, I don't like it.
Seems too easy.
Everyone here who's better than that,
the instinct is to always go over.
I'm with you, Mahomes.
This is 262.5 now.
It's probably like 265 by game time.
And at that point,
they're going to have to be behind
by 10, 14 points for him to hit that.
Yeah, they're not game planning
for a 280-yard game for him.
I agree with that.
All right, I'll give you one.
Again, I'll be done with these bad odds
in a second. But shortest touchdown, under one and a half yards. I agree with that. Again, I'll be done with these bad odds in a second, but shortest
touchdown, under one and a half yards.
I love this all year.
They only seem to have it up for the Super Bowl.
It's minus 175.
It should be about minus 250.
This is the Brother Bryce special. It's at four
straight. It's at seven of the last
eight. Same thinking
here. CMC, everything down low
for the Chiefs. Shovel pass or Pacheco.
Pacheco himself has five one-yard touchdown runs this year. And if you're a Chiefs,
they're only going to win because of Taylor Swift conspiracists. You believe that there's
going to be a phantom pass interference call in the end zone, which automatically puts the
ball at the one. I think this should be like 250. It's 175. So I really like that one.
The only thing that worries me,
Mahomes just doesn't score touchdowns anymore.
Right.
I don't think he has a touchdown this year.
Is that possible?
I think he has zero touchdowns
because you know they're never going to have him
do tush-push, any of that stuff,
because he got hurt doing that play.
They basically retired that play.
I'm looking this up as we
talk. Yeah, zero
touchdowns this year for him. And then
Purdy isn't exactly a tush pusher
either. So you're looking at
Pacheco or McCaffrey, but the good news with this
is any pass interference
in the end zone, the ball gets put
on the one. And we've seen
Pacheco and McCaffrey can go in.
How do you say it? People say, and I say
Pacheco wrong. You say Pacheco?
Oh, that's Pacheco.
Yeah, you say it right. I'm being told I say it wrong.
What do I say? Pacheco.
I think I say A, like A-Y.
Yeah, Pacheco.
You're making it sound like Sicilian.
Pacheco.
Pacheco.
What do you got?
Speaking of quarterbacks and running stuff,
Brock Purdy,
over three and a half rushing attempts,
plus 124 on FanDuel.
And maybe people have bet that
since we're talking about this.
In the playoffs,
he had five carries.
He had six carries.
During the season, in the Cincy game, he had six.
Tampa, he had four.
Minnesota, he had five.
In general, against a good defense where they're pushing the pocket,
and he had, that was one of the keys to that Lions game
was his ability to move around.
I think he's going to be able to do this against the Chiefs.
We've seen quarterbacks with their legs, beat them for first
downs. And I just think he's going to run the ball four times. So I was surprised that was plus 124.
I would have thought that would have been like minus 150. I'm going to put two stars by it and
I'll make you feel slightly better. I think this is a nice hedge if you like the Chiefs because a
kneel down counts as a carry.
So if he takes three knees, you're half away right there.
You know what I forgot when I was researching this?
That Mahomes, he had hit the over and the rushing.
Oh, yeah.
And they were running the clock out at the end.
He lost 16 yards on three carries trying to run out the clock.
It was one of the great prop losses. Our friend Nick Santora had that
and was devastated.
I watched the game with him
and he lost on that because of that.
And he fled the state.
He has not come back, actually.
Moved to Pennsylvania.
He was supposed to make
his seventh action show for Netflix.
That's right.
That's it.
He's like, no, I can't do it.
Jason Statham's like,
wait, I thought we were shooting on Monday.
What do you have for your next one?
All right, how about this?
First touchdown jersey.
I love these.
I just love it all.
First touchdown jersey number over 19 and a half.
So Debo's the cutoff.
I like over.
You get Kelsey.
You get McCaffrey.
You get Kittle.
You get Rice.
You get most of the receivers.
Over 19 and a half.
You go under. You get the quarterbacks. You get Ayuk. And you get Kittle, you get Rice, you get most of the receivers. Over 19 and a half. You go under, you get the quarterbacks, you get Ayuk,
and you get Debo.
Did I miss somebody?
And Pacheco, however you say it.
You like these bets where I actually have to do work
to follow what's happening with the bet.
I've watched huge football games with you.
You can barely concentrate on anything once the game's going.
So you're going to be calculating this as it's happening?
I'm thinking of bringing my son Jack's math tutor in with me
to watch the games, Super Bowl Sunday,
because I just have too much or an accountant or something.
All right, let's take a break.
I have my favorite prop coming up next.
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All right, Sal, this is it.
My favorite prop.
You're going to do Gary Russell later.
I'm doing mine now.
Okay.
This might be a little bit on Gary Russell's corner.
And if it is, I apologize.
That wasn't my intention.
I just really like this bet.
First TD of the game.
Noah Gray.
Okay.
43 to one.
He caught two short touchdowns in 2023.
He had 28 catches for 305 for the year.
He has 16 first down catches.
And in general, when the Chiefs get close to the, 23. He had 28 catches for 305 for the year. He's 16 first down catches.
And in general, when the chiefs get close to the,
again,
my homes,
isn't going to run because they,
they just don't.
That plays out.
My home's doing anything,
running into the line,
push,
push,
push anything.
And then it's like,
well,
they're going to,
he'll throw it to Kelsey.
Then now the Noah gray,
it's like the super bowl was like when they love to have the cute play where it's like, Oh, you thought I was going to Kelsey then. Now, the Noah Gray, it's like the Super Bowl
was like when they love
to have the cute play
where it's like,
oh, you thought I was going to do this?
We did this instead.
And all of a sudden,
Noah Gray gets the first TD
and everybody's like,
who the fuck is that?
Right.
43 to one, Sal.
That's a large number
and it's the perfect name
to piss everybody off.
It's like, oh man.
Just complete,
just hostility immediately.
Fandle rakes in the eye.
Oh, Kelsey. Thank you.
I'm good. I'm good. Yeah.
Alright. I don't hate that. That's too high.
43 to 1. That's too high.
I have
let's see.
Okay.
Alright. Let's do Gatorade.
Why not? Yellow, lime, green, plus 380. Purple is favored
at plus 225. Yellow, green is three to one. Yeah, I'm getting it at three to one. Everyone bet big
on purple last time these teams played because of Kobe. In 57, it was purple. There were two
blues before that. Yellow hit with Doug Peterson and the Eagles.
I think yellow is due.
Also, if drunk Jason Kelsey urinates in the bucket,
you automatically get the win for yellow.
So that's what I'm going with.
So what would be the Vegas ties to the color?
Oh, right.
Why didn't I even think of that?
Yeah.
I don't even know what you would associate
from a color standpoint in Vegas.
That logo that was supposed to trip everyone up for Ravens Niners was purple a little bit, right?
Purple and red.
So there you go.
I don't know.
I'm just saying green right there.
I love that you bet on.
So for my next one, I couldn't find this yet, and maybe it's not out, but is there a Jake Moody will miss a field
goal prop?
I didn't see that either. I was looking for that.
There will be. I'd like to go
blind. Just blind.
Blind. I don't know the odds yet.
Blind on a parlay of
Jake Moody misses
a field goal and it's probably a little
longer, but it goes
over the upright and it seems like he missed it,
but we're not positive.
Parlayed with Adam Corolla and babbling about how the upright should be
taller for the next 25 minutes to a bunch of people who have to move to
different sections to get away from him,
even though he's probably hosting the party.
So I have the parlay.
Well,
I don't,
I can't calculate those odds yet,
but I think that Jake Moody misses
Corolla for 12, 13 minutes.
I love it.
Straight.
12, 13 podcast straight.
Corolla wouldn't be happy.
If the uprights went through the moon,
through the surface of the moon,
it's not enough for him.
I did find odds.
I found odds for the miss what do
you think they are what is it i'm gonna say plus 120 oh you're gonna love this plus 210 oh my god
that guy he's not ready that's that's one of my favorite ones but you lose if there's no attempt
that that's the only thing so he has to actually, he actually has to miss. I think that guy,
that is one of the Achilles heels
of this Niners team.
Right.
I don't trust,
he's one of those,
when he comes out,
I never think he's making it.
So that would be a fun one.
Plus 210.
Yeah.
That's beautiful.
That's good.
All right, I'm writing it down.
All right.
What do you got?
Plus 210.
I also,
off of the Gatorade,
color of Brock Purdy's mom's minivan
when she picks him up after the game.
Red 2-1, green 4-1, clear 9-1.
I don't know why you call it clear.
It's even in there.
No, they made clear minivans.
Isn't that strange?
Why is it?
Take me through this.
Will the two-minute warning come at exactly two minutes?
The no is plus 310.
So that would be they're running a play
that goes over the 2 minute
and the clock stops at 158
157
versus counting the clock down
and the 2 minute warning
and then it just stops at 2 minutes
right
okay so let me
here's the thing
it's
one of those plays
where 49ers have it
like at their own 45
and they know they could
they have no timeouts but they know they could, they have no timeouts,
but they know they could throw here
because the clock is going to stop, right?
And so it's at 203,
and they take it to 150.
I don't know.
I just thought that was too high for the no.
I'm probably off.
Anyway.
It does seem high.
Yeah.
Does that mean I'm up?
Yeah, go ahead.
Yep.
All right.
I rode an Amtrak Accela today from New York City to Boston.
I had a great time. It was great to fly by Stanford and New Haven and New London and Providence.
Seeing the sights really brought me back to my childhood. One of the things I did on this train
ride was try to figure out the longest reception. And the instinct is to take like Ayuk.
He's the favorite.
And his big receptions this year were 42, 76, 51.
And then he had a 51-yarder in the playoffs
that bounced off a guy's face.
You might say Rice.
Rice has had a couple long ones over the years,
over the months.
But the one I settled on with great odds, and I love this for so many different reasons, is of long ass ones that he became like, uh, you know, the enemy of the, of chiefs fans. Right. If we're talking redemption,
redemption stories, and just like, Oh, think of all that. If a chiefs win, what are, what are
some of the things that'll happen? And he's already made a couple of big plays in the playoffs,
but Valdez Scantling with like a 60 yarder or a 65 yarder or 50 yarder.
I just like the odds.
I think he has as good of a chance as IU to bust one.
And the chiefs aren't giving up long.
They didn't do it against Buffalo and they didn't do it against Baltimore,
except for that Wednesday flowers play.
So did he have the longest?
Did he have the longest
last game
his was 32 like you said
I think somebody on Baltimore beat him
yeah Flowers at a 54
yeah that's right
yeah I think so I think he's kind of like
the guy who's like he's the wrestler
that's hiding under the ring
during the Royal Rumble and then he
comes out he's like wait a minute I didn't know you were still
in there much like he did against the Ravens like, wait a minute. I didn't know you were still in there.
Much like he did against the Ravens.
It was a long one, but it wasn't the longest.
I like that.
I think that's too high.
And they will throw to him.
The script would have him catch one.
One other one for this one that I thought was intriguing
was McCaffrey was 18-1.
His longest this year, 35, 33, and 41 during the season.
Then he had a 28-yard in the playoffs.
But I was thinking some
71-yard wheel route
where it's just like, oh, and he's
in space and all of a sudden he's just gone.
He's busted some big plays, but usually
they're runs. What were those odds?
18-1.
It just seemed too high.
There's too many bets.
We should warn people that these
aren't going to all win, right?
Yeah.
It's good to take some unders, too.
All right, well, I'll throw one at you.
Purdy interception, for all the reasons you brought up at the top of the podcast, right?
It's only minus 115.
He's had seven in the last eight games.
Somehow, none versus the Packers a few weeks ago, even though he could have like three or four.
Nerves could easily set in, right?
I also like Carl Laftis.
Wait, can you hold on on that one?
Yeah, go ahead.
No, but this is a similar thing to it.
But I had it down as well.
He had 11 picks this season.
Right.
But I watched a lot of Niners this year.
At least seven, eight drop picks for him.
Only two had more dropped picks this season of games that I watched.
So I'm with you.
There's another bet where it's just Chiefs get the first interception
is minus 110.
I don't know why we wouldn't bet that.
Oh, that's a good one.
That's a good one, too.
I'm just going to add to that.
These guys are linemen, but defensive linemen.
Carl Laftis, 100-1.
Chris Jones, 70-1 to get an interception.
They don't accumulate a lot
of picks, but can't you see it batted
up at the line of scrimmage, especially
if he's going to let the pocket collapse like
he did in the first half in the last two games.
Or the screen pass where
somebody jumps off. Right. Yep.
Exactly.
All right. Here's another one I really like.
The Chiefs will have the longest kick return is minus 160.
And the reason for this one is Butker, the Chiefs kicker,
is pretty touchback reliant.
He just boots in the end zone and you don't return it.
Whereas Moody, especially if he loses confidence,
misses a field goal, doesn't hit
one, I just think the Chiefs will have more chances to have kick returns. So that's minus
160. I don't love the odds, but I like the spot. I like that a lot. I have something later to
support that. I'll say this though. I know the odds suck for this, but Fendle has it at minus
330. Other books have it at minus 500. The kickoff, the opening kickoff,
is a touchback.
I like that.
The player takes a knee.
The Chiefs have 83%, to your point,
touchbacks this year for Butker.
The league average is 65.
Two Super Bowls in a row,
there's been a touchback in the opening kick.
All the Super Bowl touchbacks
in the opening kick occurred in the dome.
I think this is the same story,
but it's high. It's 330.
Your way to do it is better. I like it.
You're up.
Okay. All right. These squares.
Let's talk about these squares. You can go on
FanDuel. This is perhaps the greatest
invention since wireless
that you could bet the 7-3
or the 3-3. You don't have to be stuck
with these pools with
the 2-5 or whatever shit. The 9-8. Yeah, the 9-8. You're't have to be stuck with these pools with the 2-5 or whatever shit.
The 9-8. Yeah, the 9-8.
You're done, right? And not to mention
it's a pain
collecting money. You and I have been to Super Bowl
parties. You got these dead beats. It sucks.
The anthem's about to end and you're
freaking out because only 70 boxes are
filled. And it
ends up being me, you, Daniel, and Jimmy
buying every box left. So grab your zero zeros, grab your three zeros.
In this case, I like 7-3 for both sides.
And this is cumulative.
You get plus 550 and plus 600
and it goes throughout the game,
throughout the, you know, not just the first quarter,
not just the game.
You get every quarter at 7-3, both sides,
if you take them, one's 550 and one's 600.
That's a great one.
Just in general.
Squares are terrific.
Yeah.
If you had told us 20 years ago that we would just be able to bet on our own personal squares on a website.
Yeah.
And that this would have been a thing that would have worked.
Or in an app.
We didn't know what apps were in 2003, but great stuff.
Yeah.
KC to beat San Francisco in overtime
is 18-1.
KC to win the first half and the game
is plus 190.
And FanDuel allows you to throw that
in same-game parlays and stuff.
But my thing is,
if KC's going to win the game,
it's going to look like that
Ravens game, and they're going to be putting
all of the silverware
into the sink in that first half
the way they did, and try to put
Purdy on his heels, and basically the
same premise of what they did to Lamar.
Oh, you're going against
Patrick Mahomes. Now you're down
seven, and
we have the ball to start the second half.
You just know how it goes.
But anyway, KC to win the first half of the game.
I think you're right.
That's the more logical way to approach it.
I feel like I owe this bet something because it's hit for me so many times.
Niners first half, KC game is eight to one.
KC first half, Niners game is seven to one.
They did it last week, Kansas, San Francisco.
So it's been a crazy year,
but I think you're away just that it keeps going.
17 to one.
This is interesting that the confetti that falls from Allegiant stadium
following the game is made from shredded call girl pamphlets.
I didn't even think that was allowed,
but you think they'd be on top of that.
All right.
Now here's a good one.
Kelsey,
Kelsey catches
every target, plus 950.
I saw that
one. He almost did this
last week, right? He did do it last week.
He was 11 for 11.
He did it earlier in the year.
He's done it twice
this year, and fewer than 19
games, so plus 950 is
good. He might just be one of those things where it was just sure handed,
wide open,
short routes.
And God forbid,
if he catches one pass and goes out with an injury,
you win,
you win that way too.
That's pretty good.
I looked at that hard.
I kept thinking of Fred Warner,
like getting his hand in on one of them though.
Like he goes eight for eight. And then Fred Warner, like, his hand in on one of them though. Like he goes eight for eight and then Fred Warner,
like,
Oh,
Fred Warner,
you killed us.
No successful fourth down conversion in the game.
Oh,
plus 300.
Did some recon on this.
I think as I was passing through new London,
I think I was looking this stuff up.
Um,
Casey for the season,
only 10
for
they've had 20 total. They've made 10.
They're 50% which is weird.
That's basically like one a game. There's some
teams that are like in the 50s.
They're two out of three in the playoffs.
San Francisco for
the season
13 total. They hit seven.
The playoffs are
0 for 1.
Both of these teams
are really conservative
and I don't really
fully understand it.
Yeah.
Because you would think
like they're both
that both have
Kansas City as an
explosive quarterback.
The Niners have an
explosive offense.
I just first I was
really surprised by that.
Anyway, plus 300
where it seems like
that should be even odds.
I like that, and you're right.
I think the Parley kid went over that against all odds.
He was shocked at how few fourth down conversions the Niners had this year.
The one thing I'll say is I think I like that bet better two weeks ago
or three weeks ago, but they're explosive, the offense,
but they have a kicker that's exploding too.
His mind is exploding, so they might go for it on fourth
and three where they normally
wouldn't.
What do you got?
This is dumb, but exact points scored
for Kansas City. 17 is 10
to 1. That hit four times this year.
27 is 12 to 1.
That hit three times this year.
Again, it's another way of doing squares and stuff.
We're playing craps here, right?
We're just throwing a million things in the middle,
bet the yo, bet everything,
but it kind of is the last game,
so we got to do it.
We're going to take a break
and we'll do MVP
and we'll unveil the Gary Russell pick
for 2024 Super Bowl 58,
named after a number that we could only come up with,
Jack Lambert, as famous number 58.
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All right, Sal, Let's do MVP first.
The odds that jumped out to me were Kelsey at 17-1
and going to narratives and just,
what's the Hollywood ending here?
Is Kelsey winning the MVP and kissing Taylor Swift
at the end of the game?
I don't think he's looked that good,
especially in the second half of the season.
But in the playoffs,
there's been a little bit of a resurgence.
And I thought he was lights out last week
against Baltimore.
So Cup won the MVP, Julian Edelman won it,
and Santonio Holmes won it.
Those were the last three receivers slash tight end.
Kelsey's really a receiver
that have won in the last 15 years.
But the 17-1, I was really surprised the odds were that high.
Well, we gave this out last week.
If Mahomes isn't going to win it, Kelsey's going to win it.
And if you think the Chiefs are going to win, it's either Mahomes or Kelsey.
So why is Kelsey 17-1?
He was 23-1 last week when we liked it.
And now I think we moved the line on people.
I apologize for that.
It still seems too high.
I'm with you.
Alright, so I'm
trying to think. If Mahomes
has four touchdowns and Kelsey has two
of them, who do you
think they give it to? I guess it depends which ones
are important towards the game.
What if it's a
21-20, 21-17,
23-17 type game?
Kelsey has the only two touchdown catches.
Kelsey has eight first down catches.
He finishes 10 for 132.
Nobody else in the Chiefs has more than 40 yards receiving.
Maybe Mahomes throws a pick.
There's a path.
Let me ask you this.
The fact that Mahomes won the two times that they were Super Bowl champs,
does that make you think, all right, that's a little fatigued?
He doesn't have to be a three-time winner?
Mahomes is fatigued.
Or, I mean, I'm trying to look.
I'm looking at his numbers.
He had 182 yards passing last year and won it.
He did have three touchdowns.
It's just like if he has a typical Mahomes
game, it's going to be 250 yards,
two touchdowns,
just this version of Mahomes
we're watching now, and then he'll get five
for 42 rushing yards,
something like that. There's one more
Kelsey bet I really like.
Let me do the MVP real quick
because I have it.
No, it's all right.
Take the 17-1 for sure.
That's a better number.
But MVP other than quarterback is plus 200.
So that's any other position.
The last 10, there's been six quarterbacks and four non-quarterbacks.
So plus 200 is a decent number.
If you look at the last decade, McCaffrey, Kelsey could burst out.
Defense, which has happened fairly recently.
Who knows? I like that number.
Speaking of Kelsey,
him to have the most receptions
in the game is plus
170.
I was looking at it.
I think I was past maybe
the Rhode Island border at this point.
Kelsey had eight plus
catches four times this season. Rice had eight plus catches four times this season.
Rice had eight plus four times.
Kittles had eight plus twice.
Ayuk's only had it once.
And McCaffrey and Debo, zero times.
Which made me think,
Rice is plus 220 for most receptions.
Kelsey's plus 170.
You could almost bet both.
And just say,
you bet 100 on either, on both of them, you either win 70, 120, or you lose 200 if George Kittle ends up having the most catches, right? So I think it's
going to be Kelsey or Rice. And the Kelsey plus 170, I'm actually surprised that's not even odds.
I think it's going to be even odds. I think it's going to get there.
As we're talking this through, is Kelsey
going to be the most bet on non-quarterback
in Super Bowl history?
I feel like we just talked about
eight Kelsey bets. That all sounds great.
Remember we had this two years
ago with Cooper Cup and I think
just about all of them hit.
They threw to him over and over and over again
as the game went on.
If you think the Chiefs are going to win,
Kelsey's going to have to have a good game.
There's no other path.
But how many 13-year-olds are asking their dad
to put $20 on Kelsey to score first
or Kelsey to win MVP?
I don't think we've ever...
The 13-year-old girls.
I don't think we've ever had that before.
I say 65 million.
You're probably right. I might be wrong. You don't think we've ever had that before. You're probably right.
I might be wrong.
You don't think this was happening for Brandon LaFell
10 years ago in the Patriots?
We also have this segment in the country
now that hates Kelsey and Taylor Swift
and every time he gets a catch,
screw that guy!
He definitely has the most
eyeballs on him of any
non-QB we've had in a long time.
Right.
Right.
I mean, no non-QB Patriot ever ascended to these kind of visibility fame heights.
Randy Moss, I don't even know if he got there.
No.
Jerry Wright.
I mean, that was...
So, we have to really consider just the last 15 years or so.
The last 25?
It's like no Steeler, no Packer, no Cowboy.
What?
Oh, you have made the super last year.
You're right.
You're right.
No, I don't know.
Yeah, I mean, Manning wouldn't be a Steeler, like you said.
Saints, Ravens, Seahawks.
I don't even know.
Terrell Davis?
I'm not sure who's close.
He's absolutely, outrageously, ridiculously famous.
And you can make a case he's more famous than Mahomes right now.
The Taylor thing is...
Anyway, we don't need to rehash it.
Do you want to do Gary Russell or do you want to do same game parlays?
I have a couple others. I have a two to one
odd sometime this week. Dan Campbell
spotted at a blackjack table splitting
tens. I can see that. I think that's
probably good money there.
Splitting tens against an ace.
Yeah.
25 to 1
following the game. Brock Purdy holds up the
Lombardi trophy and screams into the camera.
Can you smell what the Brock is cooking? That would be interesting. That's all I got.
It's all nonsense. I wish there was a way to bet on the CBS when they do the thing like
Brock Purdy's journey for Mr. Irrelevant and they spend three days making that
cartoon package where he's wearing a cowboy hat and riding a horse.
And he's riding next to Trey Lance's horse
and then Trey Lance's horse falls off a cliff.
He's spent like $50,000 on this stupid cartoon.
On the graphics.
And he has to narrate it.
It's Brock Purdy.
Look at him riding there, Tony.
He's riding that gym.
He's riding the horse.
And then someone at the end, they have the graphic,
is buried in a Vegas desert by Tommy DeVito's agent.
All right, before we do Gary Russell,
here's my favorite same game parlay.
Go ahead.
Right now it is over 13 to 1 odds.
Kansas City to win first half game.
Mahomes under 262.5, we discussed.
Noah Gray over one and a half receptions
and
and Pacheco
not Pacheco
right
Pacheco
70 plus yards
rushing
and that is
13
plus 13
16
is it that high
yeah
I didn't hear anything
I didn't like
oh man
yeah
so I'll do that again
Casey to win
first half game. Mahomes under
262.5. Noah Gray
two catches.
Pacheco 70 plus
rushing yards. All right. I don't have one.
That sounds good. Well, you have the Gary
Russell, which is way more important.
Yes. Backstory.
It's Super Bowl
Steelers, whatever.
Steelers and Cardinals.
Great Super Bowl.
Really enjoyable.
Yeah.
And you did a prop.
We had the podcast at that point, and you did a prop.
And it was Gary Russell.
What was it?
For three yards?
Four yards?
No, to not score a touchdown.
Oh, to not score a touchdown.
That's what it was.
So this is their backup running back, right?
It was fast.
Fast.
Willie Parker was their
starter, right?
Yeah.
I think that year.
Yeah.
So minus 150
to not score a touchdown,
the backup.
And this is, I think,
the first year I picked
an obscure player
to not do something.
Minus 150.
Not only did he score
the first touchdown,
he had two carries inside the three-yard line
in that first drive or the first drive that they scored. It was like they listened to the pod and they just wanted
to mess with you. And then someone
wrote in and said that months later that they were laughing when Gary
Russell scored. And across the room, this guy heard a woman laugh
and they got together. They had never met each other and they discussed it. And they the room, this guy heard a woman laugh and they got together.
They had never met each other and they discussed it.
And they're like, oh, do you listen to the Guest of the Lines pod?
Like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Those two ended up getting married based on the Gary Russell prop bet.
And we've never heard if they've...
I think the woman is now dating...
I don't know.
I don't know.
She's with Kanye.
Is that who she's with?
I'll have to look that up. Someone let't know. I don't know. I don't know who she's with. She's with Kanye? Is that who she's with? I'll have to look that up.
Someone let us know.
But anyway, every year I try to pick an obscure name
and top the Gary Russell moment.
So as you were talking there at the end,
I was looking up Gary Russell to see what happened to him.
And there's apparently a boxer named Gary Russell.
I know, I know.
I got in that rabbit hole too.
Of Featherweight, who held the title for like seven years. I don. I got in that rabbit hole too. Of Featherweight
who held the title for like seven years.
I don't watch the Featherweights.
So yeah, we probably should have
put some Gary Russell's bet. Alright, here we go.
It's time. You ready?
SB58, the Gary
Russell prop. Here we go.
Okay. I really thought about this
because I think last year and maybe even two of the
last three years, the name has been so obscure. They haven't even made the roster. They were inactive by Sunday and that sucked. And then everyone got mad at me and whatever. But this guy's making the roster. He's playing. He's actually a name that's like a um from samoa i think i met one with that
right i went to a bunch of them um i really try to go obscure not this year richie james returns
a punt or a kick for a touchdown 30 to 1 odds kansas city chiefs. He had a kick return for a touchdown as a member of the 49ers.
So we'll hear all about that.
I just see it.
Second quarter, Simmons following a Jake Moody field goal that grazes the crossbar and goes
in, much like you described.
San Francisco feeling good about themselves.
Richie James, former mid-Tennessee State Blue Raider, takes the kickoff, 92 yards to pay
Dirt.
And that Dirt is going to pay well
30 to 1 buddy
let's do this Gary Russell
so is it Richie James
it has to be a special teams TD
that's right punt or kick return
I gotta say I bet on what your
Gary Russell pick was going to be and I lost
you did what'd you like what'd you have
I thought it was going to be Blake the lost. You did? What'd you like? What'd you have? I thought it was going to be Blake Bell,
the third string KC tight end.
He fit your profile.
I like that. I've been screwed with the tight
ends though. The third string tight ends usually get
cut before game time.
Richie James, he's doing it.
Richie James.
I like it.
So you researched all his returns
in the special teams over the years?
He's done close.
Yeah, he's done it.
And I just think it's going to be like a weird punting kickoff situation, moody, whatever.
30 to 1 is a good number.
God bless you, Richie James.
Where does this line end?
Where are we at on a week from now?
I think 2.
I think 2. I think two.
I don't know why.
I think Sharp Money will come in on two.
I mean, they are giving it to us with the teaser, aren't they?
We're going to get eight, eight and a half at this point.
I think it goes to one and a half.
One and a half.
Yeah.
So your big bet is going to be Casey and the over on a teaser.
No, my big bet is going to probably be Casey and the under.
Really? Because the under goes all the way up to
53 and a half.
If the working theory is that the
Chiefs are either going to win or hang around,
it'll be a slow-paced game.
53 and a half's
a lot, man.
27-24 is a lot of scoring for these teams
that take forever to get down.
54 is like 30 to 24 or,
you know,
30,
27.
Somebody,
somebody's getting to 30 at 54.
Yeah.
So like 28,
27 beats it,
but it would,
it would basically have to be 30.
All right.
We,
uh,
we're all done.
Are you,
are you sad that we're done with Super Bowl props? We have more coming.
The good news is Fando's going to just give us
it's like at Christmas when you're
done eating and then somebody's like, how about some pigs
in the blanket? They don't stop.
They don't stop. There's more gifts for us.
More and more coming. Yeah. I love it.
I love it all. I'm going to be with
the Ringer Wise guys in
Vegas this week. We'll be on Radio Row
on the Fando stage. We're doing Ringer Wise guys in Vegas this week will be on Radio Row on the FanDuel stage.
We're doing Ringer Wise guys from there, doing Cousin Sal's winning weekend from there,
interviewing a bunch of ex-athletes and current athletes.
And I'm sharing a room at the Luxor with Harry.
I've really made it in this industry. Oh, my God.
Yes.
A 320-pound man snoring a mere feet away from me at the media hotel.
I would hesitate at sharing an Uber with Harry.
Much less a hotel room and a bathroom.
It's at the Luxor, though.
Come on.
We're good.
That's tough.
I had some media friends ask me about the Luxor.
And it's like, didn't you used to make fun of the Luxor because they had cigarette burns on the blackjack tables?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's actually true. It's a dark place with burns on the table. Maybe they fixed some of it.
The cigarettes have cigarette burns. That's how bad it is there. The ones that they give
out. Good Lord.
That's it for our Super Bowl props though, but we're going to take a break and do a few
more things here.
Alright, we're going to do a little NBA, then some parent corner.
We affected the
Thibodeau line last week.
It was like 95-1.
Now it's 26-1
and dropping.
Although they did lose to the Lakers on Saturday.
I actually went to the game.
They didn't have Ananobi.
They didn't have Quinn Grimes.
Randall's out for a couple weeks,
but the trade deadline's coming.
They have four days contract to trade.
I personally think they're going to get Malcolm Brogdon,
and they'll trade one of their picks they have,
and they'll bring him in.
They need one more scoring guard.
The Lakers just basically double basically double team Brunson
in the fourth quarter and stole the game from him
but I still like Thibodeau even
at 26 to 1 I still like it
yeah I mean what so where do you
think so the question's always where does this
team have to end up right what
seed I think they get a two seed
because now we have Embiid who doesn't
look like he's going to come back this season
Milwaukee you know they can't look like he's going to come back this season.
Milwaukee, they can't decide who they are week to week.
Miami can't get their shit together.
So it just feels like they could sneak out a two seed.
If they get the two seed, watch out, man.
I'm afraid of the Knicks.
The other thing that really changed since we did this last week, and I'm not allowed to vote, but I love talking about it, is
now that Embiid is no
chance, Jokic suddenly
is minus 150.
How fast did that go? Where
did he start and where did he jump up to?
Just from before the Embiid
news, he was
390 or 4-1?
Yeah.
Right in there. And now he's favored your SGA
not your pick but the fact that you gave it out
at 10-1 and he's plus 230
is right behind him
yeah because we always love talking about the value
the only one that I was kind of staring at a little bit
just from a value standpoint
is just the plus 650 on Giannis
because Giannis is
like he's just putting crazy games and he's like a man possessed and now that they fixed their coach
um could he just go on this super duper run and then Jokic you know cools off or maybe they don't
care the only thing with Denver is they all these teams are bunched together for the 1, 2, 3, 4, and I actually
think they're going to have to care as the season goes along,
so that helps the Jokic case.
Why would you like Thibodeau but not Brunson,
who I pointed out to you yesterday was
tied with Tatum, odds-wise,
and now is ahead. He's 55-1,
Tatum's 75-1.
Just as a value, if you think they can
get the two-seed, what's the difference in terms
of how a voter will look at that?
Because he's just not the best guard in the league.
I love the Brunson thing.
You could feel it.
He is insanely popular.
Jacoby was saying it was a little like that Isaiah Thomas Celtics year
when Isaiah Thomas was just awesome and the team was on his back
and it didn't matter how you defended him.
He was still getting points at the end of games.
But I think that ceiling's like top four, top five.
Him being a top five MVP,
that would be amazing.
If he finished fifth or fourth.
If he got votes, yeah.
I just don't see how,
if it's him versus SGA,
how does Brunson beat SGA?
SGA is like 30 plus a game.
They have the best record in the league
or second best record in the league.
Yeah, the team would have to go on a nosedive a little bit,
but you don't see that.
No, I think with OKC,
the Shayad's up plus 230 with the trade deadline coming up.
That's a team that could have Clint Capella in like five days.
They could, you know,
they could, or whoever they could add a guy. I was so mad at your team the other night. So mad.
I don't know if you, because we texted about it and I had three soccer games in and I just needed Celtics money line over the Lakers before they announced that Davis and LeBron were out. I was
like, ah, I'm sitting pretty. How does that happen?
How can people avoid that trap?
Because we both knew like, oh, this game's over.
The Celtics, if they lose by fewer than 10,
it'll be a miracle.
I texted you guys, the wise guys text.
The Lakers were up to plus 15.
And I was like, this is ridiculous.
I know what's going to happen in this game. The Celtics, they shot five free throws the whole game,
jacked up threes, complete mail-in, coaches benching guys.
And then the other piece of it, which, you know, it's not nothing,
is that those guys played really hard because LeBron wasn't playing.
Like there was definitely some stuff there.
I could feel it last night in that Knicks game.
He doesn't seem happy.
And we've seen
him in this spot, you know, maybe
eight of the last ten years where we get to January
or February and he's just not happy with his
team. But can you imagine being on his team
where, like imagine
like with our Wise Guys show
and I was just like,
no
man, we got to get this Wise Guys show going.
If this show doesn't get better, Like, no, man, we got to get this wise guy show going. Got it.
If this show doesn't get better, hourglass emoji.
Like, can you imagine the text threads?
Like, you'd be like, what the fuck's wrong with it?
Why isn't he just saying like, hey, great job, guys.
Good show.
Right.
Yeah.
I don't get it.
It's just such a weird way to lead.
Is that what you honestly really think?
I feel like it's telling. That I'm a little worried about it? Yeah. Hourglass. It's just a weird way to lead. Is that what you honestly really think? I feel like it's telling.
That I'm a little worried about it?
Yeah.
It's just a weird way to lead and manage.
You're the best guy in the team.
Nobody's going to say shit back to him.
Everybody's always available.
It's never his fault.
Everyone's available for trade.
I don't know, man.
Reeves has been playing pretty well.
Russell's been playing pretty well lately.
I don't know what kind of team he expects to have. I think LeBron,
his plan
has changed considerably from
a year ago, from six months ago,
from three months ago. Honestly,
that whole, I'm playing with Bronny. I saw
Bronny play. I went to USC Oregon this week.
I'm no expert
evaluator, but
it would be a stretch, I think,
at this point. I know he's young.
He's not in the mock drafts anymore. He fell out
of both rounds. No, so that plan,
okay, playing with the Sun,
playing with the Lakers, playing with your Sun
is another pipe dream at this
point. So, I don't know. I really think for
the first time in a while, LeBron himself doesn't know
what he's doing. Yeah, and I don't know
what the trade is either because
you know, I don't know who the trade is either because, you know,
I don't know who wants
Russell for $18 million,
right?
What are you getting back?
If you're the Lakers,
do you want to trade
your last remaining
first-round pick
to not even know
if you're a top-four team
in the West?
I don't know what the move is.
Right now,
their over-under is
minus 140
at 43.5 wins.
Favorite to make the playoffs. Favorite to make it
at minus 144.
There's a trade I really love, and it won't
happen, but the most
fun trade for basketball
is if he gets traded to the Warriors.
And it's Kaminga and Clay
and maybe some
pick swap down the road. And it's just, we'll take
LeBron for three months
and then he can declare for free agency.
Klay gets to go back to the Lakers.
His dad played there.
And the Lakers get Kaminga out of it.
And then they put together the old guy's super team
in Gold State.
And it would just be like, holy shit.
It's LeBron and Chris Paul and Curry.
I don't know. LeBron could see Bronny Curry and I don't know.
LeBron could see Bronny play in an hour.
He could fly down, right?
Still be able to do it.
The college season, there's like four weeks left or five weeks left.
Yeah, that's true.
Something like that.
I don't know what the trade is for them.
I don't know, man.
When you're paying $100 million
for two players in the NBA these
days, it's tough to put a good team around it. It's not a great winning formula.
The hourglass emoji, it's just such a weird way to behave as the best guy. And then they do the
press conferences. Imagine if Austin Reeves was like, yeah, man, I don't know what the fuck's
wrong with that guy. We're out here trying hard
every night. Would he be wrong to say that?
I'm working my ass off.
I don't know. I'm Austin Reeves. I'm
23. I'm doing my best.
I would love to know the
biggest shit talker text chain
in sports. Wouldn't you just love
it? If there's a non-LeBron
Lakers text thread, they're just
like, I just want to know all of them.
I wanted somebody to like,
they talk about our fantasy league as the most popular,
one of the more popular.
I want to know which sports text chain is the best.
Like Michael Irvin told me he's on a text chain with all the other 88s,
Drew Pearson,
Des Bryant,
CD Lamb.
Yeah.
I was like,
Oh my God,
that is so fucking cool.
It was like,
yeah,
it's just very positive and inspirational. We all tell CD, like go be the best 88 ever. Like, wow my God, that is so fucking cool. It was like, yeah, it's just very positive and inspirational.
We all tell CD, like, go be the best 88 ever.
Like, wow, what?
I want alternatives to see what it comes for.
So the text thread is just called 88?
Just 88.
The 88 chain, he calls it.
That's pretty good.
I don't know what the move is for LeBron because the Lakers, there's no trade
that's going to propel them.
The league is too good.
And I don't think there's a team for him to go to.
Miami's playing like crap.
That's not going to fix them.
Cleveland's doing great with that.
They've won 13 of the last 14.
Philly, you would have said maybe,
but now Embiid's hurt, so they're out.
That's probably
why he's frustrated because it's basically like he's been checkmated for the season.
I don't blame him for being frustrated, but I think it's a weird way to lead a team.
Is there an emoji that communicates, hey, all I ever wanted to do was win the in-season
tournament. Screw the rest of you people. Is that similar to an hourglass? I don't know.
I still think the team they have now, like they can play defense.
Davis has played
really well this year.
He's been healthy.
Russell's been a pretty good
like trick or treat
offensive guy.
And Rhea,
I don't know, man.
I don't think
I don't think that team's
as bad as maybe
he's making it seem.
But what do I know?
Conference and division right now,
my soft-ass Celtics
are plus 125.
The Cavs are still 13-1,
even though they've been playing great,
and who knows what they'll do at the trade deadline.
And Miami is still at 16-1
too, but to me, the East is wide open.
I don't feel good about the Celtics at all.
I think
heading into tonight, they were 11- 6 and their last 17 then they killed Memphis
tonight I went with my daughter uh Memphis had dudes Memphis brought in two guys that I'd never
heard of before really like I was like I literally don't know who this is And they had Scotty Pippa Jr. was out there and Gigi Jackson.
It was actually, it was weird.
But you mentioned the Cavs real quick.
I think you moved that line too.
Was it on this podcast?
You said to win a division.
I think it was like plus 290 or something.
Oh, what is it now?
Plus 180 now for that.
The Cavs are good.
Like they've stumbled into this Mitchell and defense formula.
They have shooting and they're playing well.
I don't know what happens when they bring Garland back.
Yeah, one of the bets that would be fun is the one seed bet,
but I haven't seen that in a while.
Because trying to bet on who's going to get the one seed
in the Western Conference would be good.
They have one about LeBron scoring his
40,000th regular season point. You see that one?
They've had that for a while.
Yeah.
It looks like
they're thinking it's like
maybe
March 2nd range at Denver.
Plus 320.
Probably want to do it on a national TV game.
Right. I'm guessing want to do it on a national TV game. Right.
I'm guessing.
Yeah, it's just tough because if he has 12 points to go,
he's not going to, and the next game is on the road,
he's not going to skip that.
Well, maybe he would.
Who the hell knows? I like the method of basket,
even though this is highly contested by a lot of the gamblers out there.
But dunk plus 650.
Make a statement, LeBron.
To break the record.
So dunk plus 650.
Others plus 300.
Three point plus 270.
Layup plus 175.
Free throws plus 420.
So other is like a turnaround jumper.
Jump shot.
Or like a hook shot.
Right.
Yeah.
Well, I guess any jump shot. That's not a? Jump shot? Yeah. Or like a hook shot? Right. Yeah. Well, I guess any jump shot.
That's not a three, right?
Yeah.
Three-point field goal
plus 270 is pretty good.
I like them all.
Let's just bet them all.
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three-pointers uh my 10 year old had a basketball game and i i i try to tell him, he's great at rebounding the ball. He's great at steals. I'm
like, go down low, chase every free throw, chase every shot, every missed shot. There's a million
missed shots on your team. Just chase them. Yeah. Okay. Okay. He gets there. I don't know what's
going on. I think because Harry was in town this weekend, he's showing off. He took 11 threes
and made two of them. And he was just driving me nuts.
And the two that he made, it didn't matter if he missed the five before and they were terrible
shots. He's holding up the three and the circle and everything. And I'm like, I'm putting my head
in my hands. I'm like, oh. And they end up losing the game. And we're walking to the car and I'm
just about to have the conversation with him. Like, listen, I don't want to watch you miss threes all game.
I really, we're waking up at stupid hours and driving you long distances.
I don't want to watch.
This is what I tell Jason Tatum.
It's the same thing.
Just go to the basket, Jason.
You're going to go to the basket, Harrison.
Right.
The same thing.
It's like, you understand you getting a rebound shooting from close range.
You're going to end up with more points than if you go two for 11. I'm trying to do the math for him and everything. Before we get
to the car, the opposing coach is there. And he says, man, you were, you're a great three point
shooter. Keep it up. Keep it up, man. You're one of the few players in the league that I get nervous
when he's shooting a three. I said, are you in my head? Like, cause if I'm going to open this car,
we're going to get in. I'm going to yell at this kid for shooting threes.
Why are you telling him he should shoot more threes unless it's because
you want to win? He's like, no, man.
I actually said it to the guy. He's like, no,
he should keep shooting the threes. He's trying to Jedi
mind trick him? What the hell?
I guess it doesn't matter. It's a
Steph Curry universe now.
They're going to do whatever they want.
You think he'll have a step back three in two years?
I don't know.
I just don't like watching it, right?
Wouldn't you rather him be, if he's a
presence inside, wouldn't you rather watch
your kid bang and
get 12 points that way
and launch these stupid shots?
That's a tough age for basketball. That's when they're all just jacking
up.
Yeah. The other one,
we had my son's birthday party. We're all just jacking up. Yeah. The other one, we had my son's
birthday party while we're doing
this a little late and went to like
7.30 and my oldest
says, hey, you
got to get me into the gym. I have a pass. He doesn't.
I was like, what are you talking about? I have to go do a podcast
and everything. He's like, yeah, but I can't get in the gym unless you show up. So you could just run your thing. I was like, what are you talking about? I have to go do a podcast and everything. He's like, yeah, but I can't get in the gym unless you show up. So you could just run your thing.
I was like, first of all, then we find out the gym's not even open. He's like, all right,
I'll go to a 24-hour gym. I'm like, what? It's now eight o'clock on Sunday night. He's going
back to college tomorrow morning. I said, what are you doing? He's like, I got to keep the streak
up. I have a streak of going to the gym. Much like our friend Rick Rosner, who ended up being a total mental case. But I was like, you're no son of mine, to quote a Phil Collins line, going to the gym, keeping up a streak. So I don't know. I got sons shooting threes and going to the gym, I need to take a paternity test, I think.
I was on the road all last week because we were doing
the Rewatchables tour.
Yeah.
And
I can't describe
how little time
my son had for me
for FaceTimes,
texting,
calls,
just,
just,
I might as well have just like gone to Mars and just, that's it. I'm
texting him like, Hey, how was lacrosse today? Hey, what's going on in school? Yo, talk later.
Just like nothing. FaceTiming him. Hey. It just, it was brutal.
And I was just thinking like,
is this what the rest of my relationship
with my son's going to be?
He's going to go to college.
I'm just like two word texts,
brief FaceTimes,
him just sending me right to voicemail.
It's just the rest of my life.
Is this what it's going to look like?
I don't remember.
I'm with you.
And the hours and hours of text between your text and the response is really disappointing. I don't even remember dating. Not that we had text with dating, but there's no feeling like it. It's like, oh, man, really? That was funny. I had to think about that. And I think it's interesting. Really, you don't care to not text me back?
It just sucks.
We're not cool, I guess.
Yeah, the opposite.
Like I came to Boston
to see my daughter
and we went to the Celtic game.
She was so excited to see me.
And it's just,
girls are just nicer than guys.
It's just the reality.
Then I was thinking how
I was on the road for a week
and I didn't check in with my mom once.
And then I checked in with her on Friday
because I was walking to our venue.
I checked in on Saturday.
I was walking to the Knicks game.
And you know, the Italian thing where the...
Why have you been called?
No, it was never said.
I think she was happy to hear me,
but it's,
it's just the undercurrent of,
well,
it was,
it was good to hear from you.
It's like just,
it's just,
you can't get through the call without like the,
the dig.
I have a self corner.
I have a Simmons corner.
You know,
we were out on the road all week and,
and I was really disciplined.
Cause I really wanted to have energy for the shows i
wanted to peak i was eating dinner at like four o'clock so i wouldn't like be sleepy when we're
doing the things i wasn't like going out after and just trying not to eat candy at night anything
so i could get my good six seven hours in i'm like i just got to get to friday night we're doing the
friday night show and then i'm gonna actually go out And we ended up, we're at the Bowery Hotel
and there was a bunch of us, including Dave Jacoby,
who as you know is one of my kryptonites.
And it was a long night and it ended with a few of us
at Prince Street Pizza, getting two big boxes of pizza
and then bringing it back to the hotel
and I had two pieces
of pepperoni
that like square awesome pizza
sky high pepperoni like three inches right
at 2.30 in the morning
yeah just pepperonis are falling off
and I'm like
and I just could not
have felt worse the next day
this was like a typical Friday
20 years ago the next day. This was like a typical Friday 20 years ago.
The next day I was like, you would have thought I got dropped out from the sixth floor just
on the street.
It's like, oh my, I had five drinks and two pieces of pizza and I feel like I need my
liver taken out.
Anyway, we're just old.
We're old is my point.
The regurgitables tonight at 8 p.m.
I can't have five tequila and sodas
and two pieces of pizza
and my whole next day is ruined.
I still don't feel good.
No.
Well, text Ben
and see what he takes.
Yeah, well, I'll text him.
I'll let you know when you're here.
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That's it. We'll be there on Radio Row Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. We'll be at the FanDuel party
Friday night, again, with the Ringer Wise guys and Harry will be there. By the way, real quick,
Harry, this should be part of my parent corner. Another thing. I, um, I bought this like contrapment that, you know, I, I have, I hate when people don't have
their phone in their car. They just leave it. Like they don't have a holder. Do you have a
holder for your phone in the car? No, you don't. Why? No, just like lay it down in the middle
between the seats and then you pick it up and look at it and a light. I have to have, I have
mine set and it's too low for me. So I bought this contraption.
I got, somehow on
some algorithm, bought this contraption
where you could hang it from your rear
view mirror. Now, some people will say this is
dangerous. I say, no.
I say looking down at ways
is dangerous and then looking up. I want
to keep it up there by this rear view mirror.
It's almost like a quarterback. You want your eye contact
to be over the line. Yes, you want it in front of you. I want that keep it up there by this rear view mirror. It's almost like a quarterback. You want your eye contact to be over the line.
Yes, I want it in front of you.
I want that.
And if so happens, I'm streaming, needing the Celtics to close out a parlay and they
can't beat the Lakers.
I'll be able to watch that too right there.
So I'm very excited about this thing.
I set it up and I'm like, oh crap, I need another piece to get this going.
I know just what I need.
It's in my house.
So I put it on the passenger
seat and then I forget about it until the next morning. And the next morning we're driving to
Harrison's basketball game and Harry gets in the passenger seat and sits on this thing and breaks
it in three pieces. I was so damn excited. I was like, you know what? I just can't have nice things.
He's like, oh, oh, look at this. Oh, well.
He like drops it, drops it into the side container.
Oh my God.
That's my roommate.
Now you get to share a bathroom with the Luxor with them.
Shoot me.
Can we just live stream that on Fandle TV just from midnight to six?
Yeah.
Yeah. If they're okay with a murder.
Yeah.
I think so.
So it's just you guys in two beds next to each other with the TV in the middle and the one
bathroom? I don't know. I haven't seen the room yet, but I think that's how it works. Yeah.
Wow. Does Harry snore? What's the snoring situation? Yeah. He's a bad snorer too.
I got to figure it out. I don't think rooms are that much now, actually, this week.
I saw something. I might get the hell out of there. We'll see. Well, isn't it
that because both teams have been in the
Super Bowl and especially the Chiefs,
this used to happen with the Pats. There'd be less
Pats fans every year because everybody had made
the pilgrimage. Yeah, I think so.
Yeah. But San Francisco,
I would assume, would have a bunch of fans there.
Yeah, I
agree. I wonder if...
I just feel like there's more media
now than ever
right
yeah
that's where the rooms
get gobbled up
well people have to
break down the big game
yeah
nobody's doing that anymore
alright cuz
as always
good job by you
good job by you buddy
alright that's it
for the podcast
thanks to Kyle Creighton
and Steve Cerruti
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I am not positive of the schedule this week, but I do know this. Russel and I are doing a big trade deadline extravaganza on Thursday. I might have a podcast on Tuesday, but if not, I will see you on Thursday. Don't forget youtube.com slash Bill Simmons for clips from this podcast, as well as
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On the wayside, I never said I don't have feelings with him.
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