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The binge. So Julian and I are four days apart. My birth is October 21st. She's October 25th. This is Jessica, Juliana Redding's childhood friend. She's telling us some important things that happened in October 2007 with Juliana's boss, or boyfriend, or both, the doctor, Munir Ueda. They'd met a few months earlier in July.

And so for our 21st birthdays, we all kind of came up with, you know, everybody wants to do a big 21st. So I did have had a party here in San Diego. And at my birthday, she had mentioned for hers, she wanted to do big. This is about six months before Juliana was murdered. And she said, my boss, maybe she said his Mnir, is going to put together a birthday party for me in Vegas. And he's going to fly us out there and he's taking care of the hotel. And he's planned like a whole fun weekend, surprise weekend for me. And so, like my friends.

And so myself and Juliana and two other girls were going with Juliana for this Vegas trip. At this time, Munir is Juliana's boss. She's his highly paid assistant. He is an orthopedic surgeon and a businessman. He's also into real estate. He's given Juliana a place to live, a mansion in Beverly Hills, and a car to drive,

a white range rover. And for her 21st birthday, he was offering a prize. private plane from Santa Monica, California to Las Vegas. Her and her friends, a suite at the win, all expenses paid. So Juliana asked Jessica and two other besties to come along. Although several people did tell me that Juliana was romantically involved with Munir. Jessica says it didn't seem romantic. Not then.

Again, it wasn't until Vegas. It wasn't that it was, I thought they were having a relationship. It was that I thought he liked her. It wasn't anything sexual. It wasn't like what she saw and she gave him a kid. Like they didn't even make out, you know? Like there was no, like I think like if there is a relationship, like a kiss, like something romantic, they weren't heavily, like she wasn't sitting on his lap.

This was the first time and the last time Jessica would meet Munir. So they all meet at the Santa Monica airport and very quickly Jessica starts to question. Is she seeing red flags here? For example, Jessica says that Munir had told. Juliana that he was, hmm, 28 years old. I just knew he was not 28 when I saw him. Or he was a really ugly 28. And you can put that on the record.

And that's when I started to be like, this guy's a little creepy. There's a photo from this trip on the private plane. There's Juliana and her friends in the foreground. They're smiling, out of focus, holding up their glasses for its years. Muneer sits behind them, disengaged. He's looking away, talking into his cell phone with a very serious expression on his face.

Juliana had found out that Mnir was not the age he had claimed. Just before this birthday trip, like in the hours before this birthday trip, Juliana got a call. Someone had been digging on her behalf. And Muneer, she learned, was not who he said he was. That he had a wife and that earrings. he had given her actually fake. So she was really upset.

But it was still her 21st birthday at midnight and she wanted to still go to Vegas. So, me being the party pooper that I am sometimes, I said

let's not go with him to Vegas. Let's do our own trip. But the time she didn't want to cancel her birthday, we had another friend meeting us already. It was in route. And so she wanted to still go on with the birthday. And I'm like, are you sure you want to do this?

And she's like, it's going to be fine. You know, like, and we weren't, again, like, I've never met the guy. I'm not thinking twice. I'm just like, want to make sure she's happy. She's just mad, though. You can tell she was like, she was hurt. But this wasn't just a trip to Vegas. It was a trip to Vegas.

So we got off the flight. He had a limo waiting for us. And we took the limo to, I think it was. was the Wynn Hotel. It was a nice hotel. He had like three, it was like this giant suite where there was like a huge living room

and then we had our own rooms. And again, if they were in a relationship, I don't know why she wasn't staying in a room with him because she was staying with us because this place was huge. We changed. We had some cocktails and we went downstairs to dinner. But Juliana couldn't just get over it.

After dinner when we went upstairs, she started to argue with Maneer. and she was just really upset. And he was not yelling at her. Looking back, he was like, you're really calm in a weird way? Like, it wasn't, like, a normal response to a person who was that distraught. It was, like, a little too calm, a little too put together. And so Juliana comes, and she's not a person.

I really can't, right? This is probably one of the only times I've ever seen her cry like this ever. And again, it's because it's, like, first 21st birthday at midnight. And I think, you know, you have all these big expectations. And so I think she was really excited for this trip. and I think she was excited to, you know, have fun. And so she comes in the room and she grabs her suitcase and she's just like, we're leaving. So she like storms out with her suitcase.

And so as girls grab our suitcases and he's like, tell her all this. I want to make sure it's supposed to be your birthday. I'll do anything. Like let her know. Like I'll like fix it. Let me know how I can fix it. Like we all grab our suitcases. And we're like, don't worry.

We'll be right back. And we go like with our suitcases running after Juliana. And obviously we never came back. But that was not the end of things. I'm Benadere from Sony Music Entertainment and Western Sound. You're listening to Doctor's Orders. This is episode two. Mystery Woman.

So detectives investigating Juliana's murder are also wondering, who is this guy? Munir Ueda. Here's what we know. Munir is from Lebanon in the Middle East. He went to school there. He graduated both undergrad and medical school from the American University of Beirut. I found one of his old resumes, and it says he finished undergrad in 1987.

So you figure he was 22-ish around then? That would mean he was born in 1965. So if I get my math right, he would have been 40, 41, 42. on the day of that photo on the private jet. That's not 28. In the early 90s, he came to the U.S. He did his medical residencies on the East Coast and also went to the Wharton School at U.Pen to get his MBA.

So he's ambitious, and by the mid-2000s, he's established himself in California with a portfolio of very successful medical businesses. He's not just a doctor, but also an entrepreneur. Friends tell the police about this trip to Vegas and what happened next. After leaving Maneer, Juliana and her friends ran around this trip with their suitcases and finally ended up at the Rio, not their first choice. We went from Don Perriam and Caviards to the Rio buffet in less than 12 hours.

Juliana woke up early, got on a Southwest flight back home. She wanted to get back because she wanted to move out. Even that early in the morning, Meneer had already had the car confiscated. And so she didn't have her car. And she was locked out of her house. She only found her one dog, Gigi. Her dog, Barron, we've never found.

It's very shady. Over the next few months, Juliana would have to find a new place to live. She went back to her old job, working at the Venice restaurant. She went back to driving her own car. She did talk to Munir. She did somehow get some of her clothes back. But she never found Barron, her other dog.

The thing that's really screwed up is the dog situation, and that's what kind of all threw us off. Why is her dog gone? Supposedly that someone let him out. But he, like, never appeared in any shelters. and this is like Beverly Hills. So it almost makes you wonder in hindsight if he did something to the dog.

You know, it's funny. It's like none of us took things as seriously as we do now. Again, age, experience. So I think at the time, when I look back, there was no immediate danger. It was more, ew, like he's older. Ew, he's a liar.

Like, ew, no. So it wasn't really talked about in like a, you need to get away from him. he's this and that. It was more, like, he's, like, he sucks because he, like, took your car. So she went and got the diamonds tested, and they were actually real. So that started to kind of make the story that she had been told maybe seemed not true. And the facts not be true.

And I think, like, well, he explained the marriage because they were divorced. And so it wasn't relevant, I think, or something, as I would remember. It was, like, he explained his way out of. said accusations. Yeah, and the diamonds then supposedly being real, really kind of made that. Right, that was like concrete evidence. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So then she was like, okay, maybe I overreacted.

Oh, I saw her again back to Vegas in January, because we're insane. I'm just kidding. Since the birthday trip to Vegas was a flop, Juliana and our friends decided they needed a redo, this time without Munir. So there was a fine joke. We're like, we're going to complete a trip to Vegas. It is going to be a good trip to Vegas. Because we cannot let Vegas not be fun. Actually, one of my favorite memory. It was so cute.

Because it was one of the last time this was the last time I saw her. And so again, we're in those big sweets. And she and are sharing a room. and we have her own queen-sized comfy beds and we're in bed after going out and she gets in bed with me and she snuggles up next to me and like, what are you doing of your own bed over there?

She's like, but Jessie, I love you. I want to be near you. I'm like, oh, my God. Scoot over a little bit then. And we were just, like, cracking up then and like telling stories and just, I just remember just dying, laughing for hours and then passing out.

It's funny you take for granted those little moments in the moment because that was one of the last Oh, it makes me sad. It's like when the last times I saw her. It was just so cute, and she's like, Jesse, I love you. It's just sad. I just feel like we take for granted so much sometimes.

After Juliana was murdered, the police lab started coming back with results. And all that meticulous work the detectives had done in the apartment paid off because it turned out there was a lot of DNA all over Juliana's apartment. And a lot of it did not belong to her. One sequence of DNA stood out. Police found it on Juliana's front door. They found it on the stove knob used to turn on the gas. They found it on the front and back of Juliana's t-shirt, and they found it on Juliana's neck. And all that DNA belonged to one person. They ran the sequence through law enforcement databases and nothing. But they could tell one thing, and that thing shocked everyone. The DNA, assumed to be the killers, belonged to a woman.

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You had a young, aspiring model, aspiring actress who comes to Santa Monica to make her fortune become famous. It was just a classic go-west type of story. And I think that was intriguing. He remembers the early days, the different theories around the crime. You know, you always suspect the boyfriend, husband, or partner, whether it's John Gilmore or Manir Ueda. So the twist made it even more intriguing. Most of the cases that I covered, it was pretty clear who did it. And it was a real who-done-it. They find this mysterious DNA on the clothing that Juliana Redding is wearing, on her cell phone, which she has used to try and make a 911 call,

or someone has tried to make a 911 call with it, on the stove knob, on the inside door, and there's no sign of a break-in, and on her throat, most importantly. And so for months, police are trying to work out who this DNA belongs to. Eventually, they start looking at other employees at the various places Juliana worked, including employees at the various companies owned by Munir Uweda. And they start checking friends, people who knew Juliana Redding. Not everyone gives their DNA willingly.

So they got samples from wine glasses, cigarettes, straws, towels. In the end, they gather 42 DNA samples. I think they went through more than 40 women before they finally set upon one person. How long does it take? Almost two years. And that's when they find someone who looks intriguing, possible. And that was Kelly Sue Park. It gets a little cloak and dagger.

A Santa Monica detective named Karen Thompson starts tailing this 44-year-old Korean-American woman who held a sort of nebulous role in Yeweda's organization. They're following her around and she drops a cigarette butt. Notes to would-be suspects and crimes, don't smoke. It's bad for you. They pick it up, they analyze it, and it matches the DNA that was in Juliana Redding's apartment. It matches the DNA on the door. It matches the DNA on the cell phone. and it matches the DNA on Juliana Redding's neck. They firm up her as a suspect.

Detectives dig into her work with Munir. Next, they get a search warrant to obtain Kelly Sue Park's fingerprints. Homicide Detective Michael Bambrick tracks Kelly to a parking lot in Camarillo, California. He recorded the interaction. Search warrant. We're just getting a murder that occurred in Santa Monica. What? What?

What? Well, who? We're investigating the murder of Juliana Reddy. And during the investigation, your name came up. So my partner, Detective Thompson, had a search warrant. So I'm by the judge to take your fingerpings. Okay, you're not under arrest. All right, I know it's a little starling.

Oh, my God. You're not under arrest. We're just here to take a fingerfince and send you on their way. I don't even know this person. Who's this person? Wait, wait, wait, guys, I want to call my attorney or something. Okay, this is Jillian already. Oh, my God.

Kelly refuses to give them her fingerprints. She says she wants to call a lawyer. But Officer Bambrick says, You have two choices. Either submit to the search warrant. No, no. It's a court order signed by a judge, or I will arrest you. Listen to me.

Or I have to arrest you. We're not complying with a court order. Okay. But Kelly does not comply. You're now in custom. You're now in custody. Okay, I'm just going to put your hands on you back and put your name. You're now under the left.

They're a violation of the court order. I explained to you. It's not funny. I would drive all the way out of here for a joke. This was June 2010, more than two years after Giuliana's murder. At the station, they fingerprint Kelly Park. They compare those prints to what they found in Juliana's apartment. There's one match.

Yeah, I remember, I think her brother called me and told me that they arrested somebody, and it was a woman, and I was like, what? And I was like, what's her name? When Juliana's friends and family heard that a woman named Kelly Sue Park was arrested for Juliana's murder, they were, well, they were shocked. Who? This is Juliana's childhood friend. Jessica.

And then he gave me her name. And I was like, who the hell? Who the hell is that? Yeah, I was like, I have no, I'd never heard of her. Um, I think initially the onset was, was this some, like, jealous girl who was jealous of her? I had never heard her name out of Juliana's mouth. Alana Hadid. Or anyone else's mouth before that day.

I, I was shocked. I was really shocked. This was not what anyone expected. As a society, you don't think of like woman-on-woman crime like that, initially. You think angry lover at first or a crazy homeless person or something like that. And it left them all questioning. Yes, Kelly Sue Park worked for Munir Uweda. But where was Munir Uweda?

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She's a journalist and runs the website adjustercom.net. Her regular beat is fraud in the insurance industry. But someone tipped her off. to a certain doctor whose name had come up in a very different context. I thought, this is pretty wild. It's pretty wild for a treating doctor of workers' compensation cases to be a person of interest in a murder case and then flee the country. That's pretty suspicious.

That sounds like mafia stuff. It sounds like crime. It surprised me and shocked me. So Larry Kennedy wrote this article, I edited it. Basically, it was just matter of fact. This is what happened. His driver drove him to Mexico. He got on a flight from Mexico.

He flew to Lebanon. That's where he is now. Lebanon does not have an extradition agreement with the United States. So effectively, anyone there is. out of reach of the American criminal justice system. Kelly Sue Park seemed to be on her own. Kelly Sue Park began appearing in court. But in court, prosecutors alleged that Kelly Sue Park was not on her own.

During pretrial hearings, prosecutors say she was paid $250,000 by Munir Uweda just three weeks before Giuliano was killed. And Park's family received another payment, they say. of $113,400 in the days just before her arrest. And there was another detail that became public. The prosecution argued that Kelly Sue Park didn't know, Juliana Redding. She showed up at her door because she wanted to talk her into,

argue with her to convince her father to be a pharmacist from Munir Uaded. Julianna's father, Greg Redding, is a pharmacist in Arizona. An exhibits eventually filed in court showed that for several months before Giuliana's murder, Munir was courting him, trying to get him to move to California and work for him. According to media reports at the time, Munir was offering Greg a salary of $400,000 a year. The court filings we obtained for this podcast include a series of letters around the potential employment of Greg Redding

at a company called Golden State Pharmaceuticals, which, prosecutor said, was controlled by Munir. Golden State Pharma wanted to hire Greg as a lead pharmacist to oversee the mixing and manufacturing of medicine. Shortly before Juliana's death, Greg's lawyers got a letter from Golden State Pharma saying the employment proposal had been withdrawn. Greg's lawyers responded with,

well, our client wasn't planning on taking the job anyway, because Golden State Pharma doesn't seem to be on, quote-unquote, solid legal footing. Five days later, Juliana was dead. One theory presented during the trial was that... Juwaita and Kelly Sue Park wanted Greg Redding in the worst way. So when Greg Redding turned them down, they got angry. And Kelly Sue Park went over to Juliana Redding's house, her bungalow. in Santa Monica, in order to bully her into talking her father, into working for Dr. U.A.

We tried to reach Greg Redding for this podcast, but never heard back. Lantz has a theory on what happened. This is my imagination speaking now. That's why Tilly C. Park went to the bungalow in order to talk her into it. And narcissistic rage took over. there's nothing more than certain narcissistic people want than money. Money, money, money. In pretrial hearings, prosecutors said that Kelly worked for Munir as a kind of debt collector and enforcer,

that she used intimidation to forward Munir's business interests. And that's what she was doing when she went to Juliana Santa Monica Bungalow. They say Munir called her his quote-unquote female James Bond. You see that in the press stories all over. the place, female James Bond. The defense denied these claims. The judge said that she could not receive any bail from Dr. Yawaita. Her bail had to come from a different source. It couldn't be from someone who was complicit in the case. The bail was $1 million to start, and then I believe it went up to $3 million.

She got the money eventually through her mother, through relatives, through connections in Korea. They couldn't connect these people to Dr. Ewaita, but many were suspected of having some connection. But it couldn't be proven. The judge couldn't come up with any solid evidence that they were connected to Ewaita. So after a few months in custody, Kelly Soup Park was out on bail of $3.5 million.

It took almost three years from Kelly's arrest for trial to start in May 2013. By this point, the case was big news on local TV. The jury will likely be seated today in the case of a woman dubbed the female James Bond, Tall and strikingly good-looking, her name is Kelly Sue Park, and she's on trial for the murder of 21-year-old Juliana Redding, an aspiring model and actress seen in this. Her family and friends and myself would always meet at the church right near the courthouse before the trial,

and we would say a prayer for Juliana and for justice and then walk over to the trial. Juliana's friend, Alana Hadid, attended almost every day of the trial. We were always praying for her. It was very religious and loved God and loved church. And it was really important part of her life. And so it was something we wanted to do while her story was being told. There were two really important decisions before the trial that the judge made.

One really hurt the prosecution. This is former L.A. Times journalist Jack Leonard again. The prosecution's case was built on the idea that Kelly Sue Pard, was the muscle. She was the enforcer for Dr. Ueda. The judge said that there really wasn't any evidence that Kelly Sue Park had been committing the kind of crime was inflicting the kind of violence that the prosecution was saying she had inflicted on Juliana Redding. So the judge said, no, you can't use that argument. I'm not going to allow you to argued that Kelly Sue Park was an enforcer for Dr. Uaida. That really hurt the prosecution, because the prosecution's whole case revolved around this shadow that wasn't in the court, Dr. Ueda. And without being able to really say why Kelly Sue Park would have been operating for

Dr. Uada, there was a big hole in their case. The other decision the judge made was against the judge made, was against the defense. The defense wanted to argue that the boyfriend may well have committed the murder, but the judge wouldn't allow that. Sitting through the trial, Alana said she could feel Munir's presence looming over everything. The fact that he was hardly spoken about at trial was really hard for everyone.

The funny thing is they continued on with their case. I mean, I don't know what else they were going to do because that was what they believed went down. They can say that she worked for you waiter. But why on earth would a businesswoman go in and murder an aspiring model who happened to date her boss a year earlier? It effectively short-circuited the mode of conversation. But the prosecution did not seem flustered. Alan Jackson was one of the prosecutors on the case.

He appeared more than confident when speaking to CBS News. I can tell you in 18 years of prosecuting cases, I've never had this much DNA. The DNA was on the door lock, DNA on a plate in the sink, DNA on that stove knob, which you'd expect because someone turned it on, DNA on the front and the back of Juliana's t-shirt, and possibly most importantly, DNA on her throat. And don't forget the drop of blood. And guess where the blood was found?

In a fingerprint. On a plate in the sink, and the fingerprint was Kelly Sue Parker. We reached out to the two prosecutors on this case, Alan Jackson and Stacey Okun-Weiss, as well as to George Bueller, who led the defense. Alan Jackson never returned our many calls and messages. Stacey O'Kun-Weiss and George Buehler declined to be interviewed. The defense, for its part, played it kind of low-key. They paid for an expensive jury consultant, and Giuliana's friends say,

carefully managed Kelly's appearance to that jury. The way in which Sally Sue Park was characterized, I think was really hard because she wasn't made out to be the person who she actually was, which was like an enforcer. And she sat in the court wearing sweater sets and acting like she was completely confused. When the DNA evidence came up,

lead defense attorney George Beeler, didn't dispute it. Instead, he spent his time casting doubt on the DA's arguments about motive, on Giuliana's lifestyle, even on the phone records. They also cast doubt on Kelly Sue Park. According to Alana, Kelly presented in court as a kind of confused deer in the headlights. How could she possibly have the strength to strangle Juliana, despite having three inches and 40 pounds on her? After the prosecution rested, the defense called just a handful of witnesses, a few friends, and then oddly a woman whose testimony was that she'd seen Juliana at Munir's Beverly Hills home

and that she'd seen Kelly Sue Park there too, potentially on the same day. Then, closing arguments. And that's when things got weird. The prosecution closed its case arguing the DNA, the fingerprint, everything pointed to Kelly Sue Park. And the defense said, essentially, yeah, that's true. But... So George got up there and he said,

there's a perfect explanation for why there could be DNA on all the most pivotal parts of the crime scene. And that is that the killer, whoever he is, had taken a rag from Juliana's house and had tried to wipe down all the things that they had touched. Well, Juliana had lived with Dr. Ueda for a little while a few months earlier. And George said that maybe when she left, she took a towel or a rag with her,

and Kelly Sue Park worked for Dr. Uwada and had been in his house. And she may well have touched that rag. And so some of her DNA might have transferred to that rag. And then when the killer used that rag from Juliana's house, Kelly Sue Park's DNA could have been then transferred to the crime scene. And that's how you end up with it at all the most important areas of that crime scene. CBS News captured the closing argument. You have a killer who's got a rag.

He's going around, he's wiping the places to get rid of his history. fingerprints, his DNA, and he's got Mrs. Park's DNA, unbeknownst to him, but to his great benefit on that rack. It was an idea that had been barely talked about in trial, certainly not interrogated. It seemed, here's Lonsamont. George Bueller made outrageous arguments that were such BS and so much malarkey and baloney that It just shocked me. He was bombastic.

I'm going to say he pushed the envelope with some of his arguments that were total bullshit arguments. There's no other way I can say it. A lot of BS. And he clearly captivated the jury. George Bueller is one of the superstar defense attorneys, criminal defense. It was a very surprising argument. I was not expecting it. I had not seen an argument like that ever made before.

Jury deliberations lasted a week. And on June 4, 2013, five years after Juliana's murder, the jury came back to the courtroom. There were two charges, both first degree and second degree murder. And when both of them were read, I was shocked out of my very skin. I was shocked. Not guilty.

Not guilty. It was mayhem. It really was. The courtroom erupted. Bitch! There's something wrong here. Go to hell, whore. These things were yelled by Julianna's friends in the courtroom right after the verdict was read.

Go to hell. I have that memorized. I'll be dead before I forget that. And bitch was screamed and you murdered her. Someone yelled, murderer. It was really scary in that courtroom.

George Bueller walked out of the courtroom door like he was on a pogo stick. He'd really done it. He had gotten a not guilty verdict for his client. and I walked out right behind Patricia Redding and she looked at George Bueller who was standing in front of the elevator I believe he had pushed the button

and he was waiting for the elevator doors to open and right when the elevator doors open Patricia Redding yelled at him how would you feel if your daughter was murdered that's exactly what Patricia said How would you feel if your daughter was murdered? And George just got in the elevator and moseyed on down. Alana and Jessica again.

I think everyone was just in complete shock. We couldn't believe that you could find Kelly Sue Park's DNA evidence, blood evidence on a broken plate in her sink on the oven. on the door, I believe, on her neck, on Juliana's neck, that any 12 people with any logical sense could say that that DNA evidence could come from anywhere else. But that's what happened, and it was really hard to process. I was at my house and it was actually on the news

because it was such a shocking verdict. It was on even in San Diego. They kept replaying it. It was like on the evening news and the afternoon news. I just kept re-watching it. It's just like, this is crazy. Jack Leonard. I'd never seen a case where there was DNA evidence against the suspect

and that person was acquitted. I'd never seen a not guilty verdict for someone with DNA left at the crime scene. But this would not be a guilty verdict. be the last time Jack would hear of Kelly Sue Park. I was an editor years later. I was working with the reporter. We'd worked out that Kelly Sue Park was in jail. And we were like, why is she back in jail?

Because cops still wanted to talk to Kelly Sue Park and Munir Uweda. Next time on Doctor's Orders. So I'm telling him it really, really hurts. And so he says, just be strong, just be strong. Hang on, just hang on. And then he keeps pulling and pulling. And I'm starting to scream. And I asked to see the doctor to see if what, you know, do I need to be checked out or anything?

And they said, oh, you're fine. You're fine. And I said, okay, just let just get me the hell out of here. And then I just started screaming, you idiots, what the hell did you do to me? You fucking idiots. Next up, episode three. Dirty and scummy. Don't want to wait for the next episode?

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get binge access to new stories on the first of every month. Check out The Binge channel on Apple Podcasts or getthebinge.com to learn more. Doctor's Orders is produced by Western Sound for Sony Music Entertainment's The Binge. The executive producer and host is me, Ben Adair. The executive producer for The Binge is Jonathan Hirsch. Doctor's Orders was written and produced by Neda Salem. It was edited by Ben Adair. Lila Hassan is our fact-checker. Legal review by Davis-Rite-Tremaine, LLP.

Michael Rayfield is the mix engineer. Next up, episode three, dirty and scummy.