The Binge Cases: Denise Didn't Come Home - Introducing: Just Say You're Sorry

Episode Date: April 24, 2023

Texas Ranger James Holland is celebrated as the ‘serial killer whisperer’, solving dozens of murders through his legendary interrogation skills. But how far does he go to get confessions? And has he put innocent people in prison along the way? Smoke Screen: Just Say You're Sorry uses shocking police tapes to reveal the psychological drama behind one murder case, and uncovers something rotten at the heart of the justice system. Subscribe now to unlock all shows on The Binge — All Episodes. All at Once… and you’ll be the first to access Smoke Screen: Just Say You're Sorry as soon as it drops on May 1st. A Sony Music Entertainment production. Find out more about The Binge and other podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts and follow us @sonypodcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sometimes you can pinpoint the exact moment that someone's life changes forever. Jim Holland with the Texas Rangers. Okay, man. Travel or what? And even more rarely, the whole thing is captured on tape. What kind of case is it? It's a murder. These recordings take us inside a gripping drama between two men.

Texas Ranger James Holland, a legendary interrogator known as the serial killer whisperer. That's why they asked me to come in, because I'm special. And Larry Driscoll, a mild-mannered Air Force veteran. Law enforcement, I was always taught to trust them. They're there to help you.

But now that's a totally different ballgame. When Holland first interviews Driscoll about the murder of a woman 10 years earlier, he denies any knowledge of the crime. But after two days of Holland's interrogations, he confesses to the brutal killing. You ever think about it afterwards? No. You sorry about what happened?

Yeah, I'm sorry that it all happened. Just another case closed for the super cop. Or so it seems. I've never seen anything like it. It's one of the most troubling interviews I've ever heard. You're going in my life is what you're trying to do, and I didn't do a damn thing. I'm trying to save your life. I'm Maurice Shema, and as a criminal justice reporter, I've looked into a lot of disturbing cases. But this one was different, because it raises a question. Would you confess to a crime you didn't commit? Can you imagine doing that?

I couldn't until I came across this story. Everyone has a breaking point. We think we don't, but we do. Over six episodes, we get to know Texas Ranger James Holland, one of the most celebrated detectives of his generation. I was sort of starry-eyed for the, you know, American hero, the cowboy. Here's my white knight, right? And reveal the shocking details

of the case against Larry Driscoll. We all think of hypnosis as a truth serum. It's not a truth serum. All while trying to understand why Driscoll confessed to a murder he swears he had nothing to do with. Can you do something for me? What's that?

Say I'm sorry. Sorry for what? I didn't do nothing. Just say it. Just say I'm sorry. From Something Else, The Marshall Project, and Sony Music Entertainment, Smokescreen, Just Say You're Sorry, is coming May 1st. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts to binge all episodes,

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