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Every human being fantasizes. Maybe imagines hitting the lotto, possibly finding that lover they've always
dreamt of, or perhaps carrying out a diabolical murder in the most brutal way imaginable.
Dr. Schwartz was faced down in a pool of blood. A renowned scientist killed in a murderous frenzy.
A very gruesome and disturbing scene. Persons of interest obsessed with role.
playing and the occult. And at the center of it all, a twisted leader called The Lord of Chaos and a
killer hiding behind a mask of sanity. We're here now. I can smell blood. From Sony Music Entertainment
and M. William Phelps LLC, Fatal Fantasy, available now on the binge. Search for Fatal Fantasy
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He sat there seeming so innocent and it was easy to be.
to believe that he genuinely cared.
Why in the world would someone be taken out a $400,000 insurance policy
on a teenage girl that made no sense whatsoever?
Here it is. Here's the motive.
It's three years since Sabrina Kid disappeared without a trace,
and Jim Bixel, her former boyfriend, rarely thinks about her anymore.
She was in his life one day and the next, she was gone.
Jim moved on.
I thought she was missing or moved back to Texas or ran off with somebody.
Jim's moved on from racing down mountain roads on his motorcycle,
and now he's an EMT at a local ambulance company.
One day he's on a 24-hour shift when his phone rings.
It's Tommy, son of Tom Preston.
Tommy was Jim's childhood best friend.
He's known Tommy forever.
They'd played Little League baseball together.
But Tommy moved out of Vegas, and Jim and Tommy drifted apart.
On the phone, Tommy needs to reconnect with his best friend.
He sounds scared.
I'm like, what's going on?
He says, I can't talk to you right now.
He goes, I need to see you in person.
He goes, I'm coming to Vegas right now.
I need you to get out of work.
We need to talk.
He was crying.
I had never seen or heard Tom that.
Like that, the kid was devastated and was scared of something.
He's like, Jimmy says, I need to talk to you.
Like now.
And I said, what's this about?
And he says, this is about my fucking dad.
That's Preston.
He goes, he's a fucking asshole, Jimmy.
He says, and I'm in trouble.
I need to talk to you.
Jim asks his boss to cover his shift.
He heads home and waits for Tommy.
Hours go by.
Tommy never shows up.
This is Killer Story.
I'm Steve Fishman.
Episode 5, Diner's Dreams and Death.
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It's two days after Tommy's
urgent call to Jim. Two days after
Tommy failed to show up at Jim's
house. Jim's back at his
EMT job. He's doing some
paperwork waiting to be called to
somebody's emergency. A TV
is playing in the background.
And Channel 8
news at noon comes on.
One of their top stories was that a young white male was found in a drainage pipe off the highway.
Jim doesn't pay it much attention.
Why watch on TV what he sees all the time at work?
But a couple of days later, the same stories back on the news.
They announced on the news that that body that was found in the drainage pipe off that highway was identified as Thomas Lancaster, Press, and the third.
That's Tommy.
Holy crap.
You know, and I'm like, that's why he never showed up.
Somebody freaking killed him and stuffed him in his drainage pipe.
And I'm thinking, what is going on?
According to news reports, Tommy was murdered execution style, a bullet in his head.
Jim has no idea what happened.
But some answers may be on the way.
A few weeks after Tommy's murder, Jim gets a call from Tommy's dad, also named Tom Preston.
I'm referring to him as Preston for clarity.
Preston is calling Jim, and as with his son, it seems urgent.
He wants to speak to Jim in person and suggests a diner.
Jim figures Preston wants to talk about Tommy,
mourn his son with his son's best friend.
So I agree to be with him.
Jim arrives on time.
I'll walk in, I sit down.
Preston is already there.
His very first thing he says to me, he says, Jimmy, he says, the police think I have something to do with Sabrina's disappearance, and I need your help.
Sabrina, this is not the person he expects to hear about.
Jim realizes he doesn't actually know much about Preston, though he now knows one thing.
Like his son, Preston is apparently in trouble.
He says, the cops think I had something to do with their disappearance.
I had nothing to do with it.
Seated across the table from Preston,
Jim doesn't know what to think,
except maybe,
why come to me?
He says, so I need you
to go to the police and tell them
that you saw her
he gave me a specific date
and a time and everything
of when I allegedly saw her.
He wanted me to tell this big elaborate story
to the police to try to, I guess,
clear his name
of any wrongdoing.
Preston is asking Jim to say that he saw Sabrina
after she disappeared.
Seems he's trying to imply that Sabrina is still alive.
I mean, this is one of my best friends' dad.
In other words, Jim feels some loyalty to Preston,
but still, he's not comfortable.
Here's the story Preston wants Jim to tell the police.
You know, you saw her at Merrill Parkway in Vegas Valley,
says in such time on this date.
And she was with a black guy driving a yellow
yellow Cadillac.
And they were going northbound in a parkway.
You pulled up next to her in your ambulance.
You looked over.
You saw her.
She saw you.
You waved.
Kind of like, hey, roll your window down.
And she just waved at you and they drove off.
He says, that's all I need you to say.
It's a really detailed story, which kind of gives it the ring of truth.
But it's a fabrication.
Jim isn't prepared for any of this.
Preston, though, has more.
And he said, if you say this,
if you go to the police and do this for me,
Jimmy says, I'm going to give you Tommy's new Mustang GT,
and I'll give you $5,000 of cash.
This guy just is trying to bribe me
to come up with some lie to the police to get him off.
Something else strikes, Jim.
He never, ever brought up.
his son Tommy during that whole conversation.
It was all about Sabrina.
That's all it was about.
I'm like, man, this is wild.
And not really even about Sabrina.
In Jim's mind, this is about helping Preston,
helping him redirect suspicion for Sabrina's disappearance
away from himself.
I'm like, I'm freaking out at this time.
My gut just ripples up, and I'm thinking he had something to do with Sabrina's disappearance, 100%.
And I got scared.
I'm thinking, and now Tommy just ended up dead.
All these things are going through my brain as he's talking.
I'm thinking about Tommy and I his last conversation, how Tommy's calling his dad, all these names.
He's in trouble.
He's crying.
And I can't help to think, man, that he's got something to do with both of these.
with Sabrina's disappearance and with Tommy's murder.
I was scared to death.
Scared to death and still in a booth in a diner across from Preston,
who's still awaiting Jim's answer.
So I said, look, there's a lot going on.
This is a lot to process.
And I said, I'll probably do it.
Because I wanted to just tell him whatever he wanted to hear so I could get away from the guy.
Jim exits the restaurant and walks through the parking lot.
I remember getting on my motorcycle when I left there.
I'm like, something's up.
I couldn't put my finger on it, but I knew something wasn't right.
I'm thinking, Tom's dad actually kill his own son?
And if Preston could do that, what else is he capable of?
Who is this guy Preston?
Every human being fantasizes.
Maybe imagines hitting the lotto, possibly finding that lover they've always dreamt of, or perhaps carrying out a diabolical murder in the most brutal way imaginable.
Dr. Schwartz was faced down in a pool of blood.
A renowned scientist killed in a murderous frenzy.
A very gruesome and disturbing scene.
Persons of interest obsessed with role playing and the occult.
And at the center of it all, a twilight.
Weisted leader called the Lord of Chaos and a killer hiding behind a mask of sanity.
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I can smell blood.
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In 1991, Lindel's looking into Preston.
To her mind, he's the prime suspect in a murder.
Linda wonders, why would he have an insurance policy for Sabrina?
One, her own mother wasn't even on.
But, in truth, four years earlier to Sabrina,
Preston is the kind, generous father of her friend Tommy.
Remember that until Sabrina moves into Preston's home,
she was knocking around from place to place.
And so Preston's modest house on a cul-de-sac must seem to her like a safe, stable landing.
The house's decorations are a little haphazard.
Preston's wife has just moved out.
They're divorcing.
And she took a bunch of photos with her, leaving bare spots on the walls.
After they divorced, it looked more of a bachelor's pad, if you will.
That's Jim, who was a frequent visitor once Sabrina moved.
in. Sabrina doesn't care what the place looks like. The house has four bedrooms and she gets one.
Sabrina most likely decamps to Preston's place in early September, just a few weeks before she
disappears. Preston seems to go out of his way to make the teenager comfortable. Her friends are
welcome. Preston has an open door policy. He's not on top of anyone. He's not insisting on neatness,
for instance.
Jennifer remembers a visit to Sabrina's bedroom.
I just remember going in there one day
and all of the clothes were like,
you know, like a girl would do,
like she was trying to find something to wear.
So there was like piles of clothes everywhere
and the suitcases were open and, you know,
it was kind of like that.
It was a little bit in disarray.
So Sabrina is in charge of her life,
her messy life.
But for her, the real comfort
must come from living with friends.
it's as if Preston has curated just the right crowd for her.
His son Tommy and Tommy's girlfriend, Denise, live at the house too.
What else makes Preston look good to Sabrina in 1987?
Well, he offers to help her.
He takes an interest in her future.
He asks Sabrina what she wants to do with her life.
The way the story gets told,
when Preston inquired about her future,
Sabrina answered that she was in.
interested in modeling.
Sabrina hadn't ever modeled before,
and as far as I can tell,
she hadn't ever mentioned a modeling dream
to those closest to her,
not to friends or relatives,
not to her mother,
who had once been a model herself,
nude in Playboy magazine,
according to Sabrina's cousin.
Preston, though,
is boundlessly enthusiastic
about Sabrina's possibilities.
One day, Sabrina and her friend Jennifer
are in a car with Preston.
The whole way back he was talking to her about modeling and this, that.
And I remember sitting there, you know, like half asleep going,
this guy is so full of shit.
He really sold it to her.
Preston assures Sabrina he can help make her dream,
if it really is her dream, come true.
He has connections, he tells her.
Sabrina must be tickled.
Until now, her crowning achievement is an eight.
Eighth Grade Certificate for Excellence in Math.
And Preston is talking about making her a star.
Sabrina tells Jim about the exciting possibilities Preston is lining up,
including, apparently, a Sprite commercial.
And he had told Sabrina that he had her set up to do a Sprite commercial.
It was to make a ton of money off of this Sprite commercial she was going to do.
So Preston offers a home, interest, prospects, and money.
All things Sabrina wants.
In 87, Preston seems to be giving direction to Sabrina's directionless life.
There are a few skeptics, though, like her friend Jennifer.
Sure, Jennifer believes Sabrina could be a model and told her so.
Yeah, 100% you could.
You're tall and thin and pretty, and yeah, I mean, you could,
but he ain't going to make that happen for you.
But praise can be intoxicating, maybe especially for,
or a kid on her own.
Sabrina didn't seem concerned.
Oh, come on, Jennifer.
And she's like, yeah, but maybe it'll go somewhere.
It's my friend's dad, you know.
I suspect Sabrina was more committed than she led on.
To me, the modeling plans were Preston's brainstorm,
but then Sabrina embraces them.
And with a determination she's never previously shown.
She calls her mom to tell her about the new
opportunity. We have an actor voicing her mom's words.
She was very excited about becoming a model.
And Bobby Sue noticed something else.
She felt Preston was the person to help her.
Maybe Sabrina is drawn to this view of her future because of who it's coming from.
Preston is a good salesman.
And maybe also she's seduced by his promises because,
As far as I can tell, no one else has ever shown interest in Sabrina's future.
Sabrina's mom certainly didn't set her up for success.
Sabrina is a high school dropout with no vocational training.
The only tool Bobby Sue sent her 17-year-old daughter into the world with
was her good looks and some lingerie.
It was little preparation for a teenager alone in Las Vegas.
But just a few weeks.
After Sabrina moves into Preston's
house, there's a glitch in the
plan to make her a model.
Big events happen in quick succession,
though it starts with a petty crime.
On September 10th,
eight days before disappearing,
Sabrina is arrested by the Las Vegas police
for shoplifting.
I think it's because she needed things.
She would just take things here and there.
But it wasn't like she was a clefto.
that did it all the time, she would just pocket a lipstick.
It wasn't like major.
The Las Vegas juvenile authorities take a different view.
To them, Sabrina is one more rootless teenager making trouble.
The authorities call Bobby Sue in Texas.
They tell her that because Sabrina is a minor,
and because she doesn't have an adult guardian,
she is banned from Las Vegas until she's 18.
Sabrina's just six months shy of 18, but she's impatient.
Her modeling career is waiting for her in Las Vegas.
On September 12th, six days before disappearing,
Sabrina leaves town.
She flies to her mom in Texas.
She arrives with a plan.
She and Preston have obviously discussed this.
He's willing to sign on as her guardian.
And now Sabrina tells her mom,
she wants Preston to step into that role.
That way she can get back to Vegas, ASAP, to work on her career.
This is the voice actor again.
She had been advised before she got back here or got back to me.
She knew about it when she got to my house.
Bobby wanted to convince Sabrina to spend a little more time with her in Texas,
but no.
She started getting phone calls from Tom Press.
and telling her that he had set up this meeting with her
and someone that was going to advance her career.
And if she didn't get back out there just to forget it.
Bobby Sue might have wanted more time with her daughter.
But by now, Sabrina is calling the shots.
Sabrina was adamant about wanting to come back to Las Vegas.
She couldn't wait to get back.
Who would you choose?
A mom who thinks of you as a lost kid, Bobby Sue's term,
or a modeling agent promising fame.
That's what Preston became her agent.
Sabrina rushed back to Preston.
And Preston got to work.
He had Sabrina pose for photos.
He worked the camera.
There were headshots, of course,
but also he wanted something a little more provocative.
Luckily, Sabrina had Bobby Sue's lingerie handy.
Preston took a photo of Sabrina in a baby doll outfit,
a kind of sheer nighty.
Perfect.
As if declaring victory, Preston lets Bobby Sue know
Sabrina has moved past her.
And he said that I didn't really care about my daughter.
If I had, I would have never let her come to Vegas in the first place.
And that she knew he cared about her.
He told me I didn't know my daughter any longer, that she had changed.
And Bobby Sue also, partly,
likes that a responsible adult has taken an interest in her daughter.
Sabrina's legal guardian slash landlord slash modeling agent, Preston,
does it seem supportive?
He rhapsodizes about her.
Oh, and he would talk to me about her,
about how beautiful she was.
And, you know, he would say that she'd put on this white dress
and walk through the house,
and she'd look like an angel.
Ugh.
He said she looked so beautiful and so pure.
On September 14th, after two days in Texas,
Sabrina hops on a plane and heads back to Las Vegas
to Preston's home, now her official home.
She takes with her a handwritten letter from her mother
appointing Preston, her daughter's legal guardian.
For Sabrina, things seem to be falling into place.
With a devoted Preston at her side, it must seem like the beginning of something exciting.
But Sabrina's life is about to take another twist.
Her view of Preston is about to change.
That night, Sabrina calls Bobby Sue from Preston's house.
She was crying.
She said, I made a mistake.
She was crying, and she really sounded nervous and scared.
She said that when she returned,
back to Tom Preston's home, that he told her he was going to lay the law down,
and that she would not be going out with her girlfriends.
She would be staying there and following his rules because he was going to be the boss from then on.
And she said that he treated her in a different manner than he usually did, and it scared her.
And she wished that she hadn't gone back.
Now there's an argument to be made that Sabrina could benefit.
from a strong parental hand.
Maybe she needs the law laid down.
After all, she's just been arrested.
Are her girlfriend's really good influences?
He said my daughter was reckless.
She was always running around with her friends
in that you never know what could happen to a girl
when she's riding cars fast,
going out with boys that he didn't know.
But Preston's enthusiasm for parenting someone like Sabrina,
it soon evaporates.
And he told me, he said, well, I was going to make her famous, but she did never head together.
And Preston's sudden flip-flop, so different from how he'd been talking about her just days earlier.
It leads me to wonder, what was really going on in that house on the cul-de-sac?
Preston never did book her any modeling jobs, no Sprite commercial, no sock commercials for Sears.
Did he intend to?
What about those sexy photos?
What truly did Preston think of Sabrina?
And what was his true plan for her?
All these events, the arrest, the guardianship, Sabrina's tears.
They happened just days before September 18th.
The day Sabrina disappears from Preston's house and from the world.
After Sabrina disappears, Preston talks to a detective from the juvenile division of the Las Vegas.
as PD. He tells the detective he doesn't know where she's gone. She's a teenager, unreliable,
and he tosses in that Sabrina had a drug habit and, oh yeah, maybe she was a prostitute as well.
To the cops, Preston is likable, believable. That's one of his talents.
Soon after the police investigation stalls, Preston is not a suspect for the next four years,
he will be unbothered by cops or conscience.
Until 1991, that's when Lindel starts poking around.
That's when she finds the life insurance policy
that leads her to declare she's found a motive, a motive for murder.
Creston isn't a helpful, generous father figure.
Lindel says he is Sabrina's killer.
But if that's so, Tom Rueh,
Preston is lucky.
Lindel has gone down every rabbit hole.
But still, there are no actual witnesses to the murder of Sabrina Kid.
That, though, is about to change.
Okay, we're back in 1991, four years after Sabrina's disappearance.
Lindel had met with Preston to ask him about Sabrina,
but her ambush in the diner didn't go as hoped.
Was Preston really going to ask.
incriminate himself to a journalist?
Hmm.
Lindel, as usual, was undeterred.
She's calling everyone in Preston's life.
She'll even interview his mother.
And she's gotten the Las Vegas police to restart its investigation.
Sabrina's body has been found and identified.
She's not a missing person anymore.
She's a murder victim.
And now homicide detective Robert Leonard is interviewing
all of Sabrina's friends.
He couldn't interview Tommy.
He was murdered.
But he did interview Tommy's old girlfriend,
Sabrina's housemate, Denise.
Though Denise claimed to know nothing
about the disappearance.
Denise had quite a few encounters
with the police department,
both locally and in California.
So I wasn't expecting a lot from her.
Where is Preston
as Lyndall and Detective Leonard
bear down. Turns out Preston has opted for a change of scenery. He makes a new life for himself,
a very respectable new life in Anacortes, Washington, a community of just 12,000 people, a thousand miles
from Vegas. It's a place where his past can be whatever he says it is. Preston presents himself
as a skilled grant writer and lands a job with the mayor's office. This new iteration of Preston,
Preston 2.0, appears to be bug-free. He's been in Anacortes for months. He's outdistanced his past,
or so it seems, except that the preternaturally dogged Lindle is still looking to connect the dots.
She's been on this story for more than a year now. So how long is Preston safe?
Remember,
Lyndle's been preparing a story
for a current affair.
She's got tape of Detective Leonard
labeling Preston the prime suspect
in Sabrina's murder.
She's even got Preston's mom on tape
calling her son a liar.
When he gets the friend
and says she's never lied,
I know that isn't that.
I mean, I've been around
a lot of the lie that he told him.
For Lyndall,
There is one roadblock.
The lawyers at a current affair are worried.
They threaten to axe the show.
They think it's too risky.
Lindel is terrified that she won't be able to tell the story,
this story that has so much personal meaning for her.
But then, Dan, her boss and husband, steps up.
He's called into the office of the head of legal.
She says, well, you realize if you're wrong about this,
they could own a current affair.
And I said, I trust in Lindle.
We're not wrong.
Trusty in Lindel.
There's a good husband.
And then on April 9, 1992,
a current affair aired a piece about Sabrina.
A dusty missing person file
was quickly turned into a murder investigation
with one suspect, POM Preston.
The show was a hit with viewers across the country.
One person in particular was impressed, the mayor of Anna Cortus.
He watched as his trusted grant writer was accused of murder on national TV.
The very next day, he fired Preston, who quickly fled the state.
Meanwhile, back in Vegas, the wheels of the criminal justice system are beginning to turn.
Detective Leonard has taken the case against Preston to the DA, who has taken.
has declared it prosecutable, whatever that means.
Two weeks after the current affair segment, a warrant for Preston's arrest for murder
is sent to jurisdictions across the country, accompanied by his photo.
The cops don't know where Preston is.
He's in the wind, as the expression goes.
A step ahead of the law.
He heads to Deadwood, South Dakota.
He's got a few thousand dollars in cashier's checks in one pocket.
and a passport in the other.
He's clearly got travel plans in mind.
But one evening, he walks down Main Street in Deadwood,
passed a celebration for a new casino.
The head of casino security,
who happens to be dressed in a tuxedo for the occasion,
recognizes Preston from his arrest warrant.
He buttonholes the mayor's wife.
Keep an eye on that guy, he tells her.
And then he calls the sheriff's son.
office. Preston is soon led off in handcuffs. Lendell gets some locals to record video of the
arrest. It's perfect for television. Preston is extradited to Nevada. Detective Leonard gets the
honor of retrieving him. Preston protests his arrest. He's a respectable businessman, he says.
He writes a little speech. I'll read it to you. The system has failed.
failed me greatly. You get framed, arrested, and overnight, everything you once were is no more.
The system has changed to the point where whores, liars, dope dealers, dope users, thieves are now
witnesses for the prosecution. Today, I have seen the police and prosecution alike. A seemingly
outraged Preston pleads not guilty. So now it's going to be a courtroom fight. And Lindel is
worried. She is convinced Preston is a killer, and she had enough evidence to put that version on
TV. But court, in court, the bar is higher, and the legal case is hardly airtight. We had a body,
we had motive, we had an arrest. But it was still, in my mind, I'm not a lawyer, but I know that it was
still a circumstantial case. There was no witness. There was still a possibility of a defense
attorney arguing his way out of it and this guy walking off Scott Free. Lindle thought of her own
attacker. Would this be another perpetrator walking off Scott Free? That's a nightmare for
Lyndall. She shares her fears with Detective Leonard. For once, his imperturbability does not
reassure her.
Bob was very measured and cautious,
that we still didn't have a case
that he was confident that
we could win.
Back at work in New York City,
Lyndle gets a phone call
from a stranger.
Someone besides the mayor of Anna Cordes
is following Lyndall's
stories about Sabrina.
It turns out that a young woman
watched Lindel's segment
watched as Preston
was led away in handcuffs.
The woman was watching in a common room at Arizona's Mojave County Jail.
She was there for forgery.
Her name is Denise Day, Denise, the girlfriend of Preston's son, Tommy.
She'd lived with Sabrina in Preston's house.
She'd already spoken to Detective Leonard and said she knew nothing.
Now, watching Lindell's piece on TV, it was like reliving a part of her life, a part
she'd been running from. Denise, too, was scared to death. Denise makes a phone call. She calls a
current affair and asks for Lindel. I got a phone call one day while I was sitting in my office in
New York, and I remember this very timid voice at the end of the line. And she said, is that
Lyndall Marks, and I was like, yes.
And then the next question was, is Tom Preston in custody?
And I'm like, I knew it was a young voice, I knew it was a young girl.
I said, yes, yes, he's just been taken into custody.
She said, well, I need to talk to you.
She just said, I know that man.
I think she used the word hurt, hurt Sabrina.
She was very scared.
She just said, if Tom Preston's in custody, I want to talk to you about Sabrina.
He had something to do with Sabrina.
How did she know?
Denise told Lyndall.
I was there when they threw Sabrina's body into the river.
What really happened when Sabrina was murdered?
We'll find out when a courtroom fight breaks out.
It's Preston on the stand against Denise on the stand.
There's also a.
surprise witness with a new version of events. She'll also take the stand.
He had good defense and he had the gift of the gab and he gave his own testimony and if you were
a jury member that believed him, only one of them had reasonable doubt. This guy would not have
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Killer Story is a production of orbit media
in association with Signal Company number one.
Creator and host is me, Steve Fishman,
executive producers, Arlindo Marx, Kevin Wardess,
and Jonathan Hirsch from Sony Music Entertainment.
Producers Jackie Pauley, Hannah Beale, and Austin Smith.
Production coordinator, Austin Smith.
Series consultant, Emil Klein, sound designer,
Britt Spangler, fact check Ryan Alderman.
Our lawyers are at Clarice Law.
Special thanks to Emily Rassick, Steve Ackerman,
Catherine St. Louis, Sammy Allison, Allison Haney,
Fisher Stevens, and the glamorous Rear Julian.
We also thank our agents at WME,
Evan Crassick, Marissa Hurwitz, Ben Davis,
and a special thanks to Shelley Chenoy for voiceover casting.
Our voice actors this episode are Raven Dunham,
as Denise Day and Lindsay Smart as Bobby Sumet.
And a special, special thanks to the inimitable Emil Klein.
