The Binge Cases: U R NEXT - Denise Didn't Come Home | 2. The Memory Palace

Episode Date: October 8, 2024

Karen remembers the bizarre events leading up to her sister’s murder, and all the people she never suspected, until she took a second look.  Binge all episodes of Denise Didn’t Come Home, ad-free today by subscribing to The Binge. Visit The Binge Cases show page on Apple Podcasts and hit ‘subscribe’ or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access.  The Binge – feed your true crime obsession. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Karen Fulaska was only 13 years old when she went to her sister, Denise's funeral, at St. Mary's Church in Closter, New Jersey. I never saw so many people in my life. There were people there that we knew, and there were people there that we didn't know. All kinds of characters. Detectives were there, too, looking for scratches on faces, or cuts on hands, signs of a violent struggle. And there were a lot of reporters. The media was all over us.

They were hiding behind tombstones at the funeral. We're all in such a state of grief. We were wearing black dresses that were a little bit short. They snapped photos of us. They put them on the front pages. And we got bags and bags of hate now. Some people telling my father that he deserved this, you know, the way he let these girls dress.

Inside the church, Karen and her sisters had one last moment alone to say goodbye to Denise. I remember this, but she was dressed in a way. She wouldn't have been caught dead in the clothes that she was wearing. They dressed her like her hair pulled back in a ponytail, like button up shirt that buttoned all the way up to her chin. To hide the ligature on her neck, really wasn't hidden. You could see where she had been strangled. People started filing in to pay their respects. And Karen remember seeing Denise's ex-boyfriend in the crowd, a guy she doesn't want to name.

Let's call him Max. This was trying to break up with everyone in. Karen told me that Max was quoted in the local newspaper after Denise's murder. He had broken up with her and she had gone with a different crowd and he didn't know her anymore. And he lied in that quote with Denise. Years later, as Karen looked back, She remembered just how weird Max was acting. All of that stuff I just was taken in the stride of life,

and I didn't think it had anything to do with Denise's death. Until I went back and looked again, the people that I thought were so good and so wonderful had really ill intent and were really bad. My name is Anthony Scalia. From Truth Media and Sony Music Entertainment, this is Denise didn't come home. The body of a teenage girl found strangled in Saddle Brook,

New Jersey yesterday was identified as that a 15-year-old Denise Velasca. She was murdered. Somebody tortured her and murdered her. It stole her beauty. For what known reason, we would never know. Had a guy that drove by me real slow and gawked at me. He was like the devil himself. He scared me. I really go back to that last week that she was a lot. A lot of crazy things happened that week. There's some real people to look at right under our nose.

I think I know who killed her. Chapter 2. The Memory Palace. Hi, Karen. Hey, can you hear me okay? Can you say something really quick? Hello, hello? Okay, yeah. On my first few phone calls with Karen Falaska, I learned that we had a lot in common.

Growing up in Bergen County, large Italian families, both of my grandparents were immigrants. Yeah, I know I saw your pictures. Your family looks a lot like my family. Yeah. I just found our conversation so fascinating. I remember canceling plans to hang out with my friends or my girlfriend because it was time to talk to Karen. Yeah, I already told my girlfriend, I was like, I can't.

I'm having a phone call tonight. You know, like, I'm in it. Oh, God, she hates me already. No, no, no, no. I never wanted the conversation to end. There were some nights where she kept me on the phone until like 2 o'clock in the morning. I'm laying in bed, you know, the audio equipment's all away.

the interview's over, and we just kept talking. It was only a couple phone calls in when Karen told me that she knew who murdered Denise. And I could tell she was nervous to talk about it. You know, I think I just have to be really careful. Like, my theory is my theory, based on everything that I saw and that I've been able to piece together as an adult. I think your theories are crucial to the story

because it's the sigh that no one's heard for 50 years. And it's people that are still alive. There's some real people to look at, and those people were never even... So I sat in my little makeshift recording booth in my parents' basement, as Karen took me back to 1969. We had pretty much run of the house, you know, partied very much in that house, you know. And we can clean it up really fast, too, you know. My parents went out for the night, and all the kids came over.

And it was a pretty big party. 20, 30 people. They were drinking beer, not me. And I was supposed to be the lookout. I was stationed in the upstairs big room window, watching for my father's car. I wasn't paying attention. And all of a sudden, I looked out the window and my dad was pulling in the driveway. And I just started yelling,

He's home, he's home. And everybody ran out the back door. My dad was like a little gorilla. He wasn't a real big guy, but he just acted like a little mafia scary guy. He went chasing out the back door after some of these kids. But there was one kid who didn't run. Denise's boyfriend at the time, Max. He just sat on the couch as calm and.

as cool as a cucumber, which blew my mind. I just remember that. That sticks in my craw a little bit, that he just had this composure that was unusual. It seemed to be in control of everything and everyone. Denise had been dating Max for almost a year. Looking unusual for my dad. With the whole thing, I was trying to take notes and, like,

how does she do this? So it all looked very romantic to me. almost like a fairy tale. But the fairy tale didn't last. Later that summer, Denise started hanging out with someone new. His name was Ron, and she was sort of trying to break up with Max. And it really wasn't going well. On the 4th of July, we went to the fireworks as a family.

Somehow Denise wound up over in the parking lot of Memorial Field talking to Max. The next thing you know, there's a big site in the parking lot. We went over there, and when we got over there, we realized it was Denise and Max in his car. She was, like, pushing him off of her, fighting, and it was a physical struggle. A cop, opened the car door and pulled Denise out of the car, told Max to get out of here, and brought Denise over to my father. She was crying. Put his arm around her, comforted her, and was really upset with what had happened.

and didn't really want her to see him anymore. When they tell you something about Max, he could have had any girl he wanted, feeling people didn't say no to him very much. You know what I mean? When Denise was trying to say she didn't want to be with him anymore, that was how I think he took it. If I can't have you, then no one can.

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The Binge, feed your true crime obsession. In my house on Saturdays, the Falaska girls had to clean the house. That's what Karen Fulaska and her sisters were doing on Saturday, July 12th, two days before Denise was killed. We were busy working in the house. Music was cranking. It was a pretty big house, and we all had our jobs. The phone rang, and it was Max. Nice and him were yelling back and forth at one another, and she slammed the phone down.

And then Max came over and parked on the side of the house. She went outside to talk to him for just a little while. I was like Harriet the spy. I went outside and I was hiding in the bushes along the side of the house because I was watching them. I staked those guys out. They were arguing and I really couldn't hear what they were saying, but they were arguing. He had his hand up on the car door and he sort of had her kind of blocked in there. They were getting into a real heated argument.

I know that it was about Ron. Ron was that new guy Denise had just started dating. And then they saw me. And they both, I mean, in two-part harmony, said, Karen, get out of here. And I took off, I mean, I was terrified that I got caught to the house. And a few minutes later, she came in behind me. She was really mad.

But she was also really upset. She had been crying, but then she started cleaning. Denise started acting real stuff. funny. We were asking her, what's wrong with you? It was wrong with me. I'm okay. Did you take something swearing up and down. She hadn't taken anything that she would tell us if she had done something like that. Meanwhile, she was getting worse and worse and worse and really couldn't walk, couldn't talk. He had no idea what happened to her. He was upstairs in the big bedroom. And we were trying to get everything done and keep an eye on her. But the next thing you know, we heard her

And she was yelling out Max's name and saying, no, no, ran into her room to find out what was going on. And she was literally hanging out her window, like almost falling out the window. And Diane and I pulled her back in. And when we did, we saw Max parked in front of the house making threats up to the window. I heard him say, held weekend for dominated in. Karen remembers that on the night of the murder, before she and Denise left the house to catch a bus to the movies, Denise got a phone call.

She had another fight with this guy, Max, on the telephone. She did throw, and then we kind of just huffed out the door together. She slammed that phone down, and we left the house. She looked at me and she said, I have to go do something. My feeling was she was walking to meet Max. My thought was she was going to give him back. and things that he had given her, and then go meet her new friend, Ron. According to Karen, Denise said she would meet her later that night at a friend's apartment.

Then she walked off down Old Hook Road. Karen was left at the bus stop alone, and that's when she saw that creepy guy in the blue sedan. He passed by a few times before speeding off down Old Hook Road in Denise's direction. I was waiting. I was standing at the bus stop, and I waved him down, and he pulled up. over and I ran to his car and jumped in. Ron was that new guy Denise had just started dating. He said, where are you going? I said, I'm going to Bergenfield. But Denise's on her way to meet you, I think.

And he went, well, I just drove that way and didn't see her. Ron gave Karen a ride to the movies. She saw Ice Station Zebra and then she went to meet up with Denise. Into the hallway of this kind of run-down apartment building. we knocked on the door, the door opened, and I saw Ron. He opened the door and started walking us back, like get away, get away, kind of.

Karen says she glanced into the apartment. She didn't see Denise, but she was surprised to see someone else. Max. I could not for the life of me understand what they were doing in our room together. They weren't friends, they didn't hang out together. Up into that point, had you ever seen Max and Ron in the same room?

Never. They did not want us in there, and they pushed us back from the door. So I think there was something in there. They didn't want me to see. I want to know what was going on that night in that room. Eventually, Ron came out to give Karen a ride home. When I told him, I would tell Denise that he said hi. He told me he didn't think he would.

be seen Denise anymore. And he cried. He was crying. The next day, Denise's body was found beaten and strangled on the side of the road beside a cemetery. And the following morning, Bergen County detectives came to the Falaska home. The next thing I know, this detective is dragging me away and saying to my father, Jack, I got to talk to her. Jack, I got to talk to her right now.

And my dad going, okay, Rudy, go ahead. I needed help and protection. and what I got was dragged off to a police station interrogation room. The Bergen County Homicide Squad, they were like thugs with badges back in the day. They were scary guys. They're now asking me to reconstruct in vivid detail what happened from the day she left the house

to the moment of sitting in the police department. But Karen was just 13, and she had just learned that her sister had been murdered. They were saying, where did you go the night that you and Denise left the house? and I said, I went to Bergenfield, and they were like, how did you get there? And I just did not remember. I was saying, what Karen didn't remember at that moment was that Ron had picked her up at the bus stop

and driven her to the movies in Bergenfield. Detectives were questioning Ron in the next room. They would go in the next room and he would say, I picked up Karen. And then they would come back to me and say, how did you get to Bergenfield that night? And then I said, I took the bus. To the detectives, it looked like Ron was lying. The cops kept Ron, a 17-year-old kid, all night long and into the early morning. He was exhausted and emotionally distraught.

Finally, at around 3 a.m., he broke down. I was alone when it happened. I guess it happened in Saddlebrook. Did you kill her in the car in Saddlebrook? Yes. Where? off Route 46. For a minute, the cops thought they had their guy.

But then they asked Karen one more time, did Ron drive you to the movies? Did or didn't Ron pick me up on Monday night? And I was like, yes, he did? Yeah, because I didn't remember. I didn't remember. There were no other witnesses who could put Ron and Denise together that night. And there was no physical evidence on her body,

like hair, blood, or fibers, to connect him to the murder. It became clear that Ron's confession was false. Eventually, the police let him go. The people at my house. And there were people driving up and down the street, pointing at the house. When Karen came back from the police station, her house was a circus. There were reporters all over the place, the house, friends of my parents, family.

And Karen remembers seeing Max among all those people. He was there with his friend. She said, go ask your dad if you can come with us, and we'll take you away from this with them. And he just said, yeah. And like, really, I shouldn't have been with them. Karen says that Max took her to a local cafe, that he was quiet and looked extremely tired. And that's when Karen noticed something else. I saw this really deep dash of a wound on his hand.

It was an open, gaping wound on his palm of his hand. Max told her he messed up his hand, fixing her. his car. But Karen would always think about that gash. Over the years, it would loom larger in her mind. And it would become crucial to her theory that Max had murdered Denise. In the days and weeks after Denise's murder, Karen told me that Denise's ex-boyfriend Max started hanging around their house a lot. And he seemed to want to spend a lot of time with Karen. Max came over to my house and said to my dad, Mr. Velasca, can I take Karen for a ride? And he said, sure. And I drove off with him.

Karen said that Max took her to a car park, overlooking the Hudson River. We used to have a name for that place we used to call it the rock. He took me up for the rock. It was dark. It was getting dark out. And he moved real close to me, like real close to me and was staring at me. and it was really bizarre because he was a lot older than me a lot older than me

he kissed me hard really hard he kissed me so hard he split my lip it was awful it was terrifying I had never kissed a guy

and didn't want to kiss him but he just kind of forced it on me like I got upset I started to cry and he got angry but Let's go and he just basically threw me in the car, drove me home, pushed me out of the car, drove off.

Acted like he didn't know me. It was just, I killed her and now I kissed her sister or something like. What do you think his intention was? I have no idea. To this day, back on it, those events were so, really feel like I was in a lot of danger. By that point, Karen and I had been talking for weeks. Now, I just wanted to make sense of everything she told me. Now, I'm just wondering, like, because I'm just trying to figure out from my own sort of rational...

You know, it's crazy, and I know it's crazy. Was Karen saying that Max killed Denise alone? Was she saying that Ron was in on it? That seemed crazy to me, that these teenagers who didn't even know each other had gotten together and murdered a young girl and dumped her on the side of a road? It's not that I have this wild imagination. I swear to you, I really don't. I had seen a lot of things that add up to something in my mind.

But I could be wrong. I could be totally wrong. Up in my mind. I was starting to wonder if there was any way to confirm these memories. If I wanted to, let's say, request the case files. Oh, yeah. Really? Oh, no, it's not.

I said, okay, no case file. Not happening. What's next? Newspaper articles. I did everything the hard way. I could have just made a newspapers.com account, typed in Denise Falaska, and got every article ever written. What did I do?

Not that. I went to the Hackensack Library. I was like, excuse me, ma'am. I want newspapers from 1969. And they were like, oh, okay, that's in the archives in the basement. I was like, okay. So I go down in the basement. They opened up this drawer.

I thought it was going to be paper, you know? And it was like these little canisters of film. I was like, what the fuck is that? They said it's microfilm. So now I'm scrolling through film of these newspapers, and it's all yellow and dirty. So what did Karen tell me? She said she left the house around 6 o'clock to make the 7 o'clock movie.

So I went to the newspaper and I found movie listings, you know? I found Ice Station Zebra playing at the Bergenfield Palace movie theater, and I looked at the showtimes, and it said 7 o'clock. Karen was right. So I kept flipping until I found the paper that came out the day after Denise's, was found. July 16th, 1969. And it said, you know, 15-year-old girl from Closter found strangled in Saddlebrook. And I was like, okay, here we go. Karen had told me that after Denise's murder, Max tried to distance himself a lot from this case. I think in the first or second article,

there was a quote from Max saying, he hadn't seen Denise in over a year, she'd gone with a different crowd, he wasn't in touch with her anymore. I was like, oh my God, this is exactly. what she's been talking about. It just verified everything she had said. Like, here's this guy within days of the murder, really distancing himself from the situation. Karen knows what she's talking about. So I keep flipping, and I find another article.

And it says, this is not the first time a teenage girl has been found strangled in Bergen County. This murder is similar to the murder of Irene Blaze, who was killed four months ago, a mile away from where Denise's body was found. And it's similar to the 1968 murder of a young girl named Jacqueline Harp. And before that, there was a 1967 murder of a woman named Nancy Vogel.

And I start going through and finding those articles, looking and seeing what matches up. You know, age, 13, 15, 18. Look, two out of the four had a similar look. Every woman here has been strangled. Truly in that moment, sitting there with the microfilm, with that dumb look on my face, is when I realized. Denise's case could be connected to at least three other murders in Bergen County. This could be the work of one man. There could be a serial killer roaming the streets of Bergen County that no one has found. And I said, holy shit.

On the next episode of Denise didn't come home, I do some digging into the other murders in Bergen County. These unsolved cases haunted the Bergen County Prosecutor's Office for many years. And find a trail of destruction left by a monster. Two carefully decapitated female bodies were found at a Westside motel. The room was then set on fire. Denise Didn't Come Home is a production of truth media in partnership with Sony Music Entertainment. I'm your host, Anthony Scalia. The show is produced by Ryan Swiker and me.

Story editing by Mark Smirling. Kevin Shepard is our associate producer. Scott Curtis is our production manager. From Sony, our executive producers are Jonathan Hirsch and Catherine St. Louis. Fact-checking by Donia Sulemon. George Draping Hicks did the mix. Sound design by George Draping Hicks and Ryan Swiker. Music by Kenny Cusiac.

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