The Binge Cases: Scary Terri - U R NEXT | 5. Super Spy

Episode Date: June 29, 2026

A streamer named Ava undertakes a risky undercover mission to expose Vicious, while Sergeant Finley gets a new ally in his fight for justice. Want the full story? Binge every episode of U R NEXT ad-free now by subscribing to The Binge+. You’ll unlock over 60 true crime series instantly, get early access to drops on the first of every month, and hear exclusive bonus episodes. Search for the channel on Apple Podcasts or head to GetTheBinge.com. For behind-the-scenes details, join our free newsletter at Patreon.com/TheBinge. U R NEXT is a production of Sony Music Entertainment and Novel. Follow @sonypodcasts and discover more at sonymusic.com/podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices at podcastchoices.com/adchoices. The Binge — feed your true crime obsession. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Limitations and exclusions may apply. See our seven-day return policy at Carvana.com. every episode of You Are Next, add free right now when you subscribe to The Binge. You'll hear the entire series before anyone else, get exclusive bonus episodes, and unlock more than 60 other true crime podcasts. Just head to The Binge channel on Apple Podcasts and tap subscribe, or visit getthebinge.com to listen wherever you are. To Binge, feed your true crime obsession. Sergeant Ben Finley isn't the kind of guy who backs down easily, especially when he's on the trail of someone as dangerous as vicious.

It's around early spring 2014. Ben's been busy for weeks, tracing all the homes and businesses that Vicious has swatted, all the people he's been terrorizing. Ben's convinced Vicious is a Canadian teenager. When he first contacted the Canadian police, he was hopeful that they could share information to help him build the case, maybe even work together with him in bringing vicious to justice. But the Canadian authorities couldn't share any information. So who does this country cop who won't take no for an answer turn to next?

Well, the FBI, of course. I called the computer crimes unit down at the FBI in Atlanta. Hey guys, this is what I've got. Ben eventually gets put through to an agent named Andrew Young. Andrew's been with the FBI for nearly 20 years. He's part of the FBI's cybersecurity program. I picked up the phone, and we began a conversation and set up a time to meet and discuss. Sometimes phone doesn't get action.

Sometimes face-to-face gets action. And I'm an action kind of guy. I like to, you know, be the guy to make stuff happen. Quite frankly, he said he needed some help, right? because the way our law enforcement system is designed here in the U.S., it's very hard for local jurisdictions at the city or county level to work across international borders. And so it's helpful to have the FBI who has the resources and the connectivity across all borders to kind of facilitate. So next week, he shows up in my office.

We first met, and he's got this big box full of folders, lots of Manila folders, full of police records. with different cities and jurisdictions on him, and he kind of walked me through what happened in John's Creek, why he felt so passionate about this particular incident, reviewed all the files and expressed me why he felt like they were all linked together. And, you know, he's not an emotional type, but he is passionate. After Ben's done with his pitch, he stops for breath.

He's waiting for Andrew to break down how the case is going to go from here, how the FBI is going to help him chase down this perp all the way to Canada and back again. He goes, well, we can't really help until it's prolific. And I said, well, I know what prolific means, Andrew, but what does it mean to the FBI? What is, is there a number or is there a type of incident? And he's like, yeah, I don't know.

And I was like, well, Andrew, if you don't know, how am I supposed to know? He goes, man, all I can tell is just keep working. If anything changes, you got anything good, just let me know. Ben is dejected and surprised by this latest setback. To him, Vicious is 100% prolific. The FBI dragging their feet only gives Vicious more opportunity to target young women, more opportunity to cause harm.

But Ben uses this as fuel. Staying on Vicious's tracks, he manages to link him to a few more cases. Soon, the numbers are racking up. 10, 15, 20, 25. Each time Ben reaches a new milestone, he calls Andrew back. Probably, I don't know, five or six times. But the answer is always the same. I don't know if that's enough.

I find that I like calling you no more, Andrew, shit. I know it's not your fault, but it's ridiculous. It's going to be only a matter of time for something bad happens. Someone is going to get hurt or die. From Sony Music Entertainment and novel, this is You Are Next. I'm Lee Alexander. This is episode five, Super Spy. The authorities being slow off the mark to take the threat of vicious seriously

has been an unfortunate running theme with this story. Esther and Natasha both told us that they felt like the police weren't doing enough, that they felt ignored. unlisted, unlisted. The streamers vicious was targeting often had to take matters into their own inexperienced hands and become unlikely crime fighters.

I'm very risk-averse as a person generally. This is Ava. We've changed her name and her words are voiced by an actor. By 2014, Ava's in college. She's been streaming for a few years, mostly playing League of Legends. I used to play a lot of support. The support role is mostly about keeping your team safe and making sure the other team doesn't harm them.

Ava's building herself a pretty impressive fan base. I was probably averaging around 300 to 400 viewers a stream. I had like 20,000 followers on my YouTube and then also 20 to 25 on my Twitch. Even though she's got tens of thousands of followers, Ava's not looking at streaming as a potential career. Some of that comes from her parents' influence. I had parents that were immigrants, so I think that shaped a lot of my worldview of just working hard, making sure I get good grades in school. Obviously, like video games and anything entertaining or fun or cool as a kid was not a priority. It's also Ava's own risk aversion that's stopping her from pursuing streaming professionally.

Streaming didn't seem like a super stable career. The Internet was kind of like a Wild West, and I mean, it is still Wild West now. With the rise of streaming and just like the live element of it, there was obviously bad actors that would crash someone's stream or disrupt them or do something that would get a lot of attention and then take credit for that attention. It's approaching summer 2014 when Ava starts to hear rumors about one of the worst actors of all. Vicious. He was definitely gaining notoriety at the time,

especially within the League of Legends community, because that's where he found a lot of his targets. You would hear rumblings of like, oh, this person got deduced or this person had something happened to them. I didn't think what happened to me. But Vicious already has Ava in his sights. Like with so many other victims,

it starts with a DDoS attack while Ava's on stream. My stream is being really slow and laggy. Ava decides to log off, call it a night. I say, hey guys, So sorry, something is happening. I'm going to end my stream today. And then a couple minutes later, I get this DM on Twitter from this person called Vicious. Hey, I was the one DDoSing your stream.

I'll keep doing it unless you add me on Skype. Curiosity really drove me. So I added him on Skype either that same day or the next day. I just wanted to see what was going on. Like, why was he doing this? What he wanted? Vicious wants exactly what he wanted. wanted from Natasha, from Esther, and from every young woman and girl he comes across.

Access, attention, and control. Ava's heard about vicious and his tactics, so she knows that ignoring him does not work. Ignoring really wasn't a strategy that was viable for a lot of people, unfortunately. If people would ignore him or try to brush him off, he would get quite angry about it. Ava decides to try a different tactic. Pretending we're friends. If she can keep him on side, she might be able to keep streaming and, more importantly, keep herself safe. But she knows how risky it is.

He's happy with me now, but if I say something that he doesn't like or one day he changes his mind, then I could be next. Ava keeps up the friendly facade and indulges Vicious to protect herself. Initially, he was just I-M-ing, so he would message me daily. He expected a lot of instantaneous interactions. If you didn't pick up right away, he would like message four or five times being like, pick up, pick up, pick up. If I ignored him for too long, he would start publicly tweeting at me. In their messages back and forth, Vicious asks Ava to send photos. of herself multiple times. But she's able to bat him off, distract him by asking about his life.

He gave very little in terms of actual personal details, but then occasionally he would like let his real self leak through saying, I'm so lonely and why won't you talk with me? I definitely had the impression he wasn't very mature as a person. He acknowledged the fact that he was doing malicious things intentionally to harm people, but he never seemed guilty. Absolutely no remorse at all. Like for him, everything was hilarious and funny, and, you know, women crying or people begging him to stop. He just found it entertaining. And part of the motivation for him to do these things is to feel like his power over these women. Even with Ava pretending to be his friend, giving him the attention he so clearly craves, vicious isn't satisfied.

Eventually, like with all his victims, he finds out your phone number, your address. He would call my house at very odd hours, probably one or two in the morning. He was like, hi, it's me. I just wanted to call in chat. Like, it was nonchalant. I knew he wanted to get a rise out of me, so I was just like, okay, hi, like, how are you? I just tried to pretend it was a totally normal 2 a.m. conversation from a. stranger who was targeting me on the internet and just not give him the reaction he wanted. Eventually, we just ended up hanging up.

I was totally freaked. I couldn't sleep at all the rest of the night because I was like, oh my gosh, even despite my best efforts to placate him and act friendly and pretend like I'm interested in his hacking community, he can still, like, reach me. I think it's important for people to realize that he had personal details on every single person. And if you wanted to ruin your life, he really could pretty easily on his end. It's not that easy to just quote-unquote log off. Ava's trying to stay calm and not let Ficious get to her, but she's constantly seeing him brag about the terror he's raining down. He was so public with his actions on Twitter.

He would tweet at a lot of streamers being like, hey, did you enjoy me calling your house? Or like, hey, did you enjoy that pizza I sent? Like, he was very, very outspoken about taking credit for these things. I'm definitely worried that he's going to swap me next. It was always a risk. Ava's treading water, but she's scared she's about to get pulled under. A message comes through.

This time it's not from Vicious. It's from another streamer who will call Melissa. Melissa is one of the biggest League of Legend streamers out there. I knew that she in particular was a big victim of his because he was very public about his actions towards her. Melissa tells Ava that she's building a case against Vicious and that she wants Ava's help. She was contacting the police so she wanted to find more witnesses and she was looking for evidence and like we don't really have anything on this guy that's like solid. Even though Vicious brags, often on social media about the streamers he's harassing and the swattings he's responding.

for, there's not a lot of hard evidence actively showing him swatting or hacking someone. Melissa said it'd really help if you could speak out as well because that would add to the case. Ava realizes this is an opportunity to do a lot more than just speak out. This is her chance to find the smoking gun and take out vicious once and for all. It was a big risk, but I can stop it. I had gained his trust a little bit, so he was kind of like letting me in into this almost like inner circle of him and his hacker friends and these group Skype calls. So that's when I first got the idea to start recording things. Ava starts plotting a risky undercover operation.

The mission? To catch vicious hacking, extorting, or swatting. in the act. It was waiting for the right opportunity. There was this whole anticipation of setting it up, sort of continuing to drop hints like, oh, like, I'd be super interested in learning more about this. I find this so funny,

seeming like I was interested in getting more involved and helping out. And then he'll open up and kind of let me in, and then maybe slip up or let something go that he probably shouldn't have because he trusts me. Then I'll be able to record that. Ava's laid her trap. Now, all she has to do is wait for Vicious to take the bait. And she doesn't have to wait long.

Vicious has something to ask her. He said, Hey, I'm in this call right now. I'm doing this thing. I'm going to try and figure out this person's address. Do you want to be added to this? Showtime. If you want a deeper look behind Cut, Color Kill,

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You can find us wherever you get your podcasts. Just search Red Rum True Crime. That's Red Rum, murder backwards. R-E-D-R-U-M, True Crime. The once risk-averse Ava is now in a Skype call with Vicious and some of his friends, his fellow hackers who follow and encourage his every move. They're plotting to break into someone's internet provider. Unauthorized access to someone's computer or a private account is illegal and can be punishable with up to five years in prison. Ava knows the moment is now or never.

She steals her nerve and discreetly starts recording. her screen, capturing everything Vicious is doing. It was definitely very, very nerve-wracking. My heart was racing and my palms were sweaty. There's so many things that could go wrong. If somehow he found out that like there was this recording going on, he wouldn't have taken that very lightly. I don't want to pretend like I'm some hero because I was scared.

I was definitely scared. But I think bravery just comes from, doing things scared honestly. Some of the faces Ava can see in this call shock her. There was another streamer within the Skype call. I was very surprised to see her there, and maybe she was also very surprised to see me there. Ava can't tell if this other streamer is on her own undercover mission,

or if she's one of Vicious's gang. It was hard to say. Obviously, I couldn't communicate with her in the call. Vicious doesn't seem to pick up on Ava's nervousness or her shock. seeing this other streamer on the call. He's busy trying to find a way into his next target's life. Do you have an employee ID? Yes. AC137.9.

You're hearing a reenactment of a real recording made by Ava. Vicious is on the phone to an internet service provider. He's trying to gain access to the account so he can take it over, possibly to cut off his victim's internet. Okay. In order to get that information, you actually need to speak with my character, too. Did you want to hold? Um, sure.

Vicious seems annoyed. The call isn't going as easily as he hoped. He clearly wants to impress Ava and all his hacker friends with how quickly he can crack into the account. Maybe his luck is starting to run out. Fucking so done right now? I don't want to call back. Vicious ends the Skype call. Ava's barely breathing

as she quickly clips the recording she's made and sends it to Melissa. My mind was running wild with all these ways that he could have found out. But the axe never falls. Ava's pulled it off. Super spy. She's managed to become part of Vicious's inner circle.

He starts inviting her onto more calls. It's not like he would just add me to these calls every day. he was very sporadic about things. It would just be like a random, like 2 p.m. on a Tuesday, and he would just drag me into the call, basically. Ava risks her own safety time and time again by getting onto these calls with Vicious. Each time she joins one and witnesses Vicious

trying to hack into more accounts or talking about extorting or even swatting someone, Ava secretly records what he's doing and sends it on. on. But Ava doesn't hear anything back from Melissa. Nothing about how the case is coming along or what the police are doing with the evidence that she's sticking her neck out to get. She was pretty tight-lipped about it. And honestly, I was a little sad that no one provided me an update as to like what happened. Like, did my evidence help you at all? Did this recording help?

My team and I reached out to Melissa. She didn't want to be interviewed for this series, but she did tell us that the police were incredibly slow to act, which sounds awfully familiar, doesn't it? I actually thought the case went nowhere and that he just, like, disappeared off the face of the earth. But Vicious hasn't disappeared. He's simply moved on finding new victims to terrorize.

In September, he swats a high school in Florida. He calls them up and says, I'm 15 minutes away with a loaded fire on. I'm wearing explosives. I'm going to kill everyone on campus. The whole school has to be evacuated, and then that same month, Vicious zeroes in on a popular streamer who will call Katie.

The links he went to go after that girl and her family is unbelievable. After a barrage of harassment and threats, Vicious swaps Katie in September. Well, I just show up. my parents with a loaded AR-15. This is a reenactment of a call Vicious maid to Katie's local police department. In my hands, and I'm going to go to my neighbor's house and kill them too. I'm going to go to my other neighbors

and I'm going to shoot up the entire block. Police swarm into Katie's apartment only to find her there, alone and terrified. Five days later, Vicious swats her again. He also swats her parents' house at the same time. I took my father's gun. I just shot them both, ma'am. In this call, Vicious is acting a lot more.

He's not as nonchalant as he's been in some of his previous swatting calls. I'm so scared, ma'am. I just want to kill myself. I just want to shoot myself. Stay on the line with me, okay? I don't want to go to jail. Vicious sounds breathless and terrified. An Oscar-worthy performance designed to get the police to mobilize their SWAT team and get his audience a big show.

So how many shots have you fired? I shot four times. Where are your parents right now? In the kitchen. I can't go away. I'm scared to even look at them, ma'am. Oh, God. Police descend once more.

Katie's at her apartment with her mom while her dad and brother are in the family home. They're led out at gunpoint. The double swatting hits the news and vicious posts a link to his Twitter account, bragging that he's responsible. That was me, L-O-L. He tweets at Katie's mom, saying,

I heard you got shot. You all right? Vicious doesn't stop at the double swatting. He calls and messages Katie constantly, uses a program that spams her phone by sending 218 text messages simultaneously. He hacks into her university account, changing her passwords.

He takes over her Twitter account, posting her and her family's addresses, credit card details, and Social Security numbers. He hacks into their cell phone provider, signing them up for a $500 a month plan. He even tries to have their water shut off. My team reached out to Katie,

but she couldn't face talking about what she'd been through. He traumatizes this girl. He traumatizes to the point now, like, you guys know, she's not going to talk to us. She's not going to say anything. She wants absolutely nothing to do with us. And it's a shame to know that these many years have gone by, and she's still scared of death of this animal.

Ben's starting to feel kind of helpless. He's been after this guy for months, trying to build a case as he wades through the destruction Vicious is leaving in his wake. You get so caught up in it and looking through this stuff, it'd be like 7.30 at night, I'd be in my office and the cleaning crew would come through the building. And I'm like, oh, Lord, I've been here too long. So it's probably about time he got a lucky break. Despite his promise not to call anymore, Ben's still been keeping Agent Andrew Young from the FBI

updated. One night he calls Andrew up again, lets him know how many cases he's been able to tie to Vicious. Last time they spoke, it was 25. I said, is the number 44 prolific? He's like, Jesus Christ, are you serious? Yeah, I stopped at 44, but is that enough? I think we could probably call that prolific. I was shocked at how many of these swatting incidents were taking place weekly. I mean, it was disturbing, to be quite honest with you. And it was a great motivator to help him. With the FBI finally on board, Ben at last has some much-needed backup in his fight against

vicious. An internet terrorist. That's the best thing to describe him as. Instead of using a bomb or a gun, he's using the internet. Ben just needs to hold out hope that it's not all coming too late. This stuff's not going to stop. It's not going to slow down. He loves to terrorize girls.

This isn't just one or two. This is this guy's full-time passion. It's winter 2014. Since finally convincing the FBI to join his fight, Ben's been back, diligently working the case, with Agent Andrew Young right by his side. There are all but certain they know

Vicious's true identity, the 16-year-old from Canada, whose details Ben found on all those online message boards, where teenage gamers docks each other. To move forward, Ben and Andrew need cold, hard proof that shows Vicious really is this Canadian teenager. Proof of his hacking, his harassment, his attempts to extort photos,

proof that would stand up in court. For months and months went on, there was just nothing there. There was nothing we can act on. Something that's been clear to me in the many months I've spent making this series is that Vicious wants what Esther, Natasha, and Ava have, not just their attention, but their success.

He wants desperately to be somebody that people notice. It's why he so publicly brags about all the crimes he's committing. But while Ava and the others built their audiences from the ground up using their personalities and their passion for gaming as a way to genuinely connect with their fan base, Vicious doesn't seem like he's capable of doing that. It seems like the only way he can get anyone to notice him to watch his live streams is by amping up his behavior to more and more extremes.

And the thrill he gets from forcing a reaction, from being noticed, even as a villain, makes it all worthwhile. Whatever it takes to get those views, right? Though he's only attracting an audience of people exactly like him, which, of course, is never big enough. I only have 20 followers right now. We're just fucking gay. It's early December.

Vicious is on stream with some of his friends. What you're hearing is a reenactment of a real broadcast. Vicious isn't on camera himself. He's sharing his screen, while he's scrolling through a website featuring camgirls, women who perform sex work on camera for a live audience. What girl should we tip, guys? They're all really ugly on here, right?

now. Vicious clicks on one camgirl's live video and starts streaming it to his audience. She's slim with long brown hair and a polka dot headband. She looks very young. She's being a bitch. I'm tipping one dollar. This girl's the biggest bitch ever. I'm paying her to moan stuff and she won't even do it. Vicious is communicating with the camgirl via a live chat. His audience on stream keeps egging him on, telling him to instruct her to do increasingly degrading things, like draw on her face or bark like a dog. Vicious is all too happy to comply as they laugh at her together. Look at her, look at her right now. What the fuck?

It's extremely difficult to watch. The girl looks increasingly uncomfortable with each new request. Vicious and his friends constantly comment on her body, on what they can get her to do, on how funny it would be if she was under 18. Holy shit. She's doing it. Oh, she's gonna fucking do it.

After about half an hour, the cam girl shuts off her performance. For now, Vicious's not-so-private peep show is over. It seems like he has other things on his mind anyway. Oh, wait, I forgot. I have to do a swap for someone. So I guess I'll do that right now. Vicious calls up a police department in Minnesota

while he's on stream. Everyone watching can hear his end of the call. Okay, what happened is, I came up to their door, and I knocked on it, and then they opened the door, and I pointed my AR-15 at them, and they let me in. He sounds almost bored.

Guess if you'd do it enough, no high hits the same after a while. I tied up all the family members in the house, being one boyfriend and one girlfriend there, and they're currently in the... the other room. And what I want you to do is I want you to get one officer, only one, unarmed. I don't care if he's wearing a vest or something to get a clear plastic bag with 20 grand in it. Walk up to the door, knock on it three times, leave the money there and walk away.

If I see you guys trying to raid the apartment, I will kill everybody. Okay? Is that clear? But a portion of his live stream audience isn't on board. Hi, yeah. You guys received a call about an AR-a-man with an AR-15 in the house. I don't remember. Right. It's a host. His viewers are reporting him to the police.

There's a guy on the internet saying that there's a gun in this guy's house and he's not. It's on live stream. It's something called swatting. More and more calls are flooding in. I wanted to call you guys so that guy can't get swatty because that's pretty curious. I appreciate that very much. Thank you so much for calling in. Thank you very much.

Have a great night, guys. There's a shift happening here. For a long time, it seemed like Vicious would just never stop. That his captive viewership would keep fueling his hunger for attention and the toxic cycle would continue forever. But now Vicious is starting to lose control of his audience. And the tide is turning. Maybe some of his.

viewership are starting to discover a long-awaited conscience. Maybe some of them are just growing up, full stop. And their taste for his particular brand of teenage sociopathy is diminishing. But there's still one dedicated viewer who's not going anywhere, which is bad news for Vicious, because it's Andrew from the FBI. He's been watching Vicious on stream for months now. Every morning I would come in, grab my first cup of coffee, sit down at my desk. I would turn my computer on and go to the various Twitch channels and recordings that we were making. Watching a bunch of teenagers on stream is not where Andrew thought his glittering FBI career would lead him. It was painful, to be quite honest with you.

It was hours upon hours of watching and listening to teenagers, just play regularly. video games, talking back and forth about nothing, trying to up the other one in their outlandish comments. The comments from vicious and his degenerate friends range from the outlandish to the outright homophobic. I'm fucking gay. Yes, cocks, in my bottle. When I would come home and I tell my wife, she would say, hey, how is your day today? I said, Well, I listened to six hours of streaming videos. And she's like, are you kidding me?

I had to watch these videos because we were just not coming up with any leads on the technical side. And based on my experience, I just knew that at some point in time, somebody's going to slip up, somebody's going to say something. And it's my job to be there and catch it when they fall. One day, Andrew is in his office watching his least favorite show. Like every other morning, I was into it for a couple of hours. Nothing was happening. Didn't expect anything to happen. And all of a sudden, at that point, it was like a big light flash moment.

Somebody slipped up. Somebody had turned the camera around. Someone, either Vicious or one of his friends he's on livestream with, shows Vicious's desktop on stream. It's barely there for a few seconds, but it's enough. Vicious hasn't had time to hide what's on his screen. screen. Andrew can see what must be a treasure trove of folders and other personal information. All of it proves without a doubt that vicious is that same teenager from Canada that they've

suspected all along. That was the game-changing moment. At first, it's unbelievable. I can't believe what I just saw. And then you have to go back and play it again, and you're like, your excitement level just starts to climb. We wanted and fought heavily for the Canadian. to prosecute him, not to just let him walk because he was a minor. Andrew and Ben hand over all the evidence they've painstakingly collected to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. Before long, they get the call. Not only are the RCMP joining the case, they're on their way to arrest Ficious right now. On the final episode of You Are Next.

If he's not changed, he's always going to be a threat. you can sense the arrogance behind it. He thinks it's funny. He reached out and he wanted to talk. I can't believe he's still thinking about me. Ten years later. Hey, remember me? Unlock all episodes of You Are Next.

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