The Binge Crimes: Deadly Fortune - Fatal Fantasy | 5. The Infestations Of Evil

Episode Date: March 30, 2026

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The binge. Feed your true crime obsession. The binge. This episode contains extremely violent content some listeners may find disturbing. Thanks to a tip from witness Patrick House, Detective Greg Locke found a treasure trove of information from Clara Schwartz's computer and her journal. The darkness of her writings is astounding, but also incriminating. I look at Christians and see them as infestations of evil. That line from Clara's journal illustrates just how deep Clara descended into the more sinister recesses of her mind in the years following her mother's death as the relationship with her father eroded.

The root of this she had written was tethered to her having been forced to go to church by a certain family member. Jesus' disciples are extreme followers. They drank his blood and ate his flesh, which makes them all vampires and cannibals. I look at satanic cults and see the future. bright and promising. This darkness, Clara trafficked in, dovetailed perfectly with where Kyle Hulbert was at psychologically when the two of them met. I've already told you he was obsessed with being a samurai wielding knight who fights for the weak and dispossessed. He's also a practicing pagan who dabbles in the occult. But there's one more thing you should know about Kyle.

He thinks he's a vampire, a real one. And that belief lets Clara manipulate him even more. One night a few weeks before Dr. Schwartz's murder, Clara realized just how dark and twisted a world existed inside Kyle's head. Kyle, Mike, Katie, and Clara are inside her dorm at James Madison University. It's late. Mike, Katie, and Clara are sleeping. Kyle is dozing in and out when suddenly he not only hears something, but smells something.

It's pitch dark outside. Kyle is lying near the door, the protector watching over his flock. Something to understand here, at least according to Kyle, is that he believes his sense of smell is almost superhero-like. At some point, Kyle said he could smell something odd outside. He sensed danger. I thought I heard something outside, and I went out, and I started walking around. I remember that there was this idea that there was something was there. And somehow it fed into the idea that Clara was in danger.

I remember fighting by rival vampires. At the time, it was real to me, it was deadly real. It was, you know, this is life or death. To put that into clearer perspective, Kyle is wandering around the campus with his sword. And in his mind, he believes there is a rival vampire stalking not only him, but coming for Clara. I remember one of the ones that, you know, I stayed and left out

and just left him where he was because I didn't want to be too far away from the dorm. He is convinced that he's killed a rival vampire. Put a stake, his sword, through the man's heart. And then the next morning when me and Clara were walking, we saw much fire truck and stuff at the place. At that point, my brain was, hey, that's where I was. last night. My God, he must have caught fire. So, of course, you know, he started a fire being

when he burst in the flames when the sun came up. Whoops. And then that dovetailed into, well, of course they're going to say it was like an electrical fire or something. They can't admit that there was a vampire over there that died. Everything kind of fits into your psychosis, what's going on in your head. Yeah. And that's kind of the nature of it. You know, anything, any piece of random piece of information that comes into your, you know, it comes to you, you can find a way, you know, and it's not even, it doesn't take effort, it just fits. Did Clara feed into it? I think she recognized what was going on with me because it worked for her.

Please, she had made a comment to Katie. I told you the one, you know, he would be coming. And that he was, it turned out to be me. This vampire business for Kyle wasn't simply confined to a dream state. He had taken it next level, outside the underworld. Kyle had, for some time, been going to underground vampire clubs in Maryland, where he met other like-minded people and suckled on each other's blood via pricking or cutting the skin. Kyle found most of the people at these clubs second-rate wannabes,

unwilling to undertake traditional teeth-on-neck bloodsense. sucking. The Hollywood version, in other words, which was what he preferred. I think people who use RPGs as a scapegoot for their crimes are idiots and cowards. Because he reads vampire, but he thinks he's a vampire. No, I'm a part because I actually ask you a sexual threat out of drinking blood. It's hard to hear in that clip, but Kyle is saying he gets a sexual thrill from drinking someone else's blood. I asked Professor Joe Laycock, what he made of all of this? It was kind of hard to wrap my mind around.

Kyle is saying, I'm a real vampire, and all of you people are not. All of you people are posers only pretending to be vampires. So what this says to me is even within this very rarefied subculture of people who identify as vampires, Kyle was still an outsider. Even within that group, Kyle still did not belong. Kyle, the outsider, dark and unafraid of taking orders, profoundly wrapped up within his delusions, is exactly what Clara Schwartz had been waiting for.

The submissive assassin, willing to do whatever she asked of him. What is remarkable to me every time I think about the story of Kyle stalking a rival vampire on the campus of James Madison University that night is that Kyle did not randomly, thank goodness, kill a student. My name is M. William Phelps. I'm an investigative journalist and the New York Times best-selling author of dozens of true crime books.

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Kyle Yulbert left his friends, Mike and Katie, at the top of the Schwartz driveway. He began walking up the rocky path to Dr. Schwartz's farmhouse determined to confront him. Just the previous day, Clara had called him to say her father was going to kill her on their upcoming family vacation. Mike and Katie watched Kyle disappear up the driveway while they both said a silent prayer for Clara's father's soul.

While Kyle told me he did not go there with the intention of killing Dr. Schwartz, it seemed to everyone around him, that was specifically what he had planned. All I'm thinking right now is how the hell is this conversation will play out. What's going to happen? I remember walking through the dark, following the path. You know, even though it was drizzling, it was drizzling very little. It was like, nifting would be the better word for it. There's no streetlights, you know, it's a long driveway.

I've never had a problem being in the A, you know, I'll go out. I walk around at night. It's a weird kind of metaphor for my life. The path is under my feet. I walk. What happens? I'll deal with it when it does. I think it's important to keep in mind that Kyle fashions himself a writer today.

And so he leans on the more dramatic, even purple side of things. I see the light from the house. Pass a little slippery. And I get to the door and a knock. And he answers. I remember kind of looking up at him and thinking, damn, this is a big guy. And I asked him if Claire's home. And he says, no, just kind of sneers at me.

I asked him if he had, if I was supposed to pick with some notebooks and asked if he had a number where I could reach her. So they invites me in, kind of just, come on. You know, that tone of voice people have when they just want to get something, they know it's easier to just get this over with and, you know, make a fuss about it. That explanation has always seemed revealing to me. Going back a few weeks, Clara was home and inside the house, if you recall, and Schwartz didn't ask Kyle to come in, but now she's not home and he invites him in? Several sources have claimed Kyle forced his way in.

Others have claimed that Kyle understood then that a vampire, as fantastic as it sounds needed to be invited in. I'm going to follow him in. I'm in a kitchen area. He has something cooking on the stove. It's big U-shaped island kind of set up. Stove on the left kitchen sink of stuff on the far side. And then on the right is like counter dining area type area.

And then that leads into another big open space with a dining. cable, the computer. So he's writing something on a notepad, and I ask him, you know, what's your relationship like with Clara? Trying to be cool and casual. And then my heart isn't hammering like the goddamn jackhammer on my chest.

Stupid as that cliche sounds. I mean, it's just, it's like it was a living thing trying to break its way out of my chest. Kyle had gone over what he would say to Schwartz a thousand times, he told me. I ask him what his relationship is with Clara He kind of like Looks over his shoulder

And you know Just kind of like this Fuck you kind of look You know I was like what you know It's like what business is that Is yours And goes back to writing

And it's like When she's a friend of mine I care about her And he just kind of stops He stops and he just like Turns around And just One hand on his hip

and it's just like one of it just the look on his face it's like that was something he scraped off his bottom of his shoe and was very unhappy about it seeing that look plenty of times and all they said was and then just just the way yeah the way he turned around and looked and he just kind of froze me for a second and he turns back and he got back to me and kind of step up and you know this is a moment you know the low voice the hiss this was sure to chill the soul and you know make sure that nothing. never happened to her. I know what you've been doing to Clareau. He is referring to the alleged sexual abuse here. Abuse that never happened. You're not going to, you're not going to get away with it. Then something happens according to Kyle and it changes everything. That's when my head decides that it wants to take a, take a spin to the, to my right, because, as one might expect, he backhanded the holy shit out of me.

And let me just ask, is there any rage or anger inside of you now? Is that part of this? Right now, no. Right now, it's up to this point. It's everything is very quiet. And he slaps you. Damn, and he hits me. And that's when things, now it's not.

not so much anger as it is. Be perfectly honest with you. It's fear more than anything else. And does the slap validate that he hurts people? Yeah. It makes everything real. Right in that moment, I just told him I know his secret and he hit me. I just told him I know that he's abusing his daughter and that I know he's finding

on hurting her. He knows all the things he said. Hell, he knows all the things I don't know that he said to her. but I just told him I know about it. He just hit me. Now it's real. Now it's, now it's, this is what it is. Does he know you have the sword with you?

I hadn't brandished it or it's not, it's not like it's hidden. It's, you know, it's right there on my hip where it can be seen. I remember when he hit me, my right hand drops down. And the handle of my sword is in my hand. He'd hit me hard enough that this, the sword was loose in the scabbard. He hit me so hard that my body twisted and the sword just, you know, was moving under momentum. The sword's in my hand. It sounds as though Kyle is saying that the sword just somehow wound up in his hand without him reaching for it.

In my view, may be justifying what is about to happen next. Keep in mind, there are only two of them in the house. And Dr. Schwartz does not make it out alive as we know. So Kyle can, in retrospect, say whatever the hell he wants. I draw the rest of the way out. Bring it back. I just attack. The only thought in my head is, holy fuck, you know, he's going to kill me.

You know, he's, you know, Claire's in danger. This is it. So let's get this straight. Kyle is holding a 27-inch razor-sharp sword and claims he feels threatened as if his life is in danger? I lash out, I catch him in across the back of the neck, and there's some thought in my fucking head

that I was aiming for the back of his neck because I was going to paralyze him. From there, they begin fighting. We struggle. He managed to get behind me. And now for all my talk of all my thoughts of being a badass, and you have to remember back then, I weigh a buck 80 on a really good day with my trench coat on.

I'm not a big, intimidating guy. I'm a lanky, scrony little fucking teenager with really, really big delusions. He's got his left handle the back of my neck. He's got his right hand on my sword. I remember seeing the way his hand was gripping the blade. So I see it, and he's trying to force the blade out of my hand. And I remember thinking, what idiot grabs the naked blade? I yank the blade through his hand, flip it around and drive it over my right hip.

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to start listening today. Subscribers to The Binge can listen to all episodes all at once, ad free. As if describing a scene from HBO's Game of Thrones, Kyle Yulbert just told me how he struck Dr. Schwartz with his sword and made several slashes across the back of his neck on the evening of December 8, 2001. He's depicting a fight and struggle

while placing himself in the position of having to defend his life after Schwartz backhanded him. Remember, Dr. Schwartz was stabbed more than 30 times, suggesting a frenzied overkill, which when asked, Kyle either does not remember or glazes over. I bring up those strikes on the back of Dr. Schwartz's neck, looking very much like a deliberate X Kyle carved on the man. Was that on purpose or did that just happen? That just happened.

The first part would have come from the first hit that was crossed the back of his neck. And then when I stabbed him in the gut after pulling the blade to his hand, he doubled over, I spun around and kind of overhand chopped. That's where the X would have been made. Kyle has just told me that the X on the back of Schwartz's neck happened randomly. Except I do not buy any of it. of it for one minute. I have seen many photos of the ex on the back of the doctor's neck, and there is no chance

it could have happened by accident. Plus, Kyle's story evolves with additional violent details, suggesting to me he is revealing less than the whole story, which is normal in a situation like this. because killers always minimize their role after the fact. We break apart, and he's between me and the door, and there's no fight at me. I'm scared more than anything else, and I tell him to, you know, to move aside and let me out, and this is done. Because, of course, you know, of course, that's where they all end, you know. He'll tell, you know, hey, I did my hits, you did your hits, you know, now we just leave, you know, we know where we can.

My point above, Kyle is the one who is scared. He blames Schwartz for blocking the door? He speaks of hits as if Schwartz had a chance against an 18-year-old boy with a damn sword. Kyle seems to be suggesting that this is some honorable battle between two warriors. Just like one of his fantasies. And he just smiles at me. You know, you've seen that kind of bullshit in a thousand movies. He charges.

That's the moment where it's, I'm going to die here tonight. I catch him with an elbow. Taste blood. Now, Kyle is the one who is afraid of dying? Gone after that, though, because there's a part of me that feels that I should feel all of this. Remember how horrible it is. Penance isn't the word for it, but it's the closest one I can give you. I should feel this pain.

I should feel what I did. Blurve motion and rage. And the thing that clears my mind more or anything else is the thud of my blade hitting the hardwood floor on the other side of his body. He's face down on the ground. I'm standing over him and, you know, my blade is stuck in the floor. Dr. Schultz was not a small person, and I had put this blade all the way through him, according to the autopsy reports, I perforated his entire body three or four times.

I can smell blood more than it. There's an almost sweet smell from the blood caramelizing in the frying panes. on the stove. We're in the kitchen area, and I can smell it, and I can hear it. Everything is so clear. I mean, everything, and it's all at once, and it's too much of it,

just too much of everything. In this moment, Kyle explains, one of his voices suddenly begins to talk to him. It says that Dr. Schwartz has left, and we need to leave, too. I find it ironic that the only thought from beginning to end with this irrational violent episode that even approaches a sane response comes from one of the voices created by mental illness in Kyle's mind.

A fictional voice who never wanted him to go there in the first place. Stupidous thought crosses my mind. I'm looking at the blade. Wow, I've got to clean this. I'm not even thinking about the fact I just killed him. Man, I am not even, nothing else is just, my blade is dirty. I have to claim this. I rinse it off, she's my sword, and I leave.

I don't even, I don't even take that I'm there. While Kyle expresses a feeling of disassociation of not being present for the dreadful things he has done, he is present enough to feel sorry for himself and try to present himself as some sort of a victim. As if the act of murder itself has already punished him. I get slapped in the face of a couple of branches. Now I've moved from mania to almost catatonia in my way I'm feeling. Like nothing is registering. Everything is static.

As he walks back up the driveway, he can hear the whizzing tires of Mike's vehicle stuck in the mud and Mike and Katie trying to get the vehicle unstuck. This is the moment where he resets his brain to start moving and working with the others to get the car out of the driveway and away from the scene of the crime. He seems quite capable of pulling himself back into reality when he has to, while leaving a man, a good man, bleeding to death inside his kitchen. And then within just 10 minutes, the killer will be sitting with two elderly neighbors of Dr. Schwartz's drinking tea and eating crumpets chatting about everyday things while waiting

for a tow truck. Like it's just another day in the life. Listening to what Kyle is telling us and the play-by-play recollection of something so horrible, I can't help but feel that this all might somehow have been avoided. Kyle had a history of aggression and disassociative behavior, and a lot of people knew about it. In fact, his sister Natasha had a feeling of absolute dread as soon as Kyle was emancipated by the state of Virginia. Dr. Schwartz was stabbed to death three months later. I just started having this feeling. horrible feeling that something terrible with Kyle was coming.

And I didn't know what it was. I just knew something was coming and something was going to happen. When she heard the news of his arrest, Natasha could not hold back her disappointment. She felt social services could have done more. I told you guys something horrible was going to happen and something horrible was coming. and nobody wanted to listen. By you guys, Natasha is referring to the court system as a whole and the judge who allowed Kyle's emancipation.

Why didn't you guys want to listen to me? I told you something was coming. But all you guys told me was it was all in my head. And look what happened. Kyle committed murder. What's more, Kyle's own father had warned the court on the day of his emancipation, quote, you let him out on his own,

he will kill someone. But nobody listened. Kyle's confession was a watershed moment in the investigation. It was chilling and ruthless and expressed in a tone once described as the banality of evil. Even with his confession, lead investigator Greg Locke needed more. He didn't know if Kyle had acted alone

or if the murder victim's own daughter was involved. Her old boyfriend, Patrick House, had explained how Clara had tried to coerce him to kill her father. So Locke wanted answers from Clara. In December 2001, Locke had Clara, along with family members, come into the station for a chat. The meeting was under the pretext of seeking more information from the whole family. Locke began by simply using the evidence against her, quizzing Clara about the $60 check she had

overnighted to Kyle a few days before the murder. This check not only became an important part of the investigation in showing her involvement, but also the fact that she overnighted it indicated her desire to have this occur expediently. Locke pushed Clara on the reasons for sending Kyle the money and what it was for. Her primary response was for his phone card, but as we spoke more about it, was divulged that it was also for a do-rag. And I asked her what a do-rag was, and she said, well, that was to prevent any hair from being dropped at the scene.

Then she mentioned that there were gloves also purchased with the money that was sent, and this was also to prevent any evidence being left at the scene. Here was Clara admitting the money was used for items one might need to commit a murder and not leave any forensic evidence behind, plainly positioning herself as being involved. Locke dug deeper. So when I questioned her in more detail about her knowing the fact that Kyle had gone there to kill her father, she stated that she really didn't believe it and didn't think that that was what was going to happen, that she honestly thought that it was for the phone card.

But as we spoke in more detail, she eventually said that in her heart of hearts, she believed that Kyle was going there to kill her father. That was all Locke needed to hear to know that Clara played a role. Maybe the main role. Still, was hatred for her father the only motive. So once the interview concluded with Clara and I was escorting her and Michelle back to their grandfather who was waiting in the break room, When we got to the break room, Clara said, can I speak to you alone for a minute? And I said, sure, that's fine.

So we stepped into a vacant hallway. And it was at that point, Clara asked me, can she cut me out of the will? And I said, what do you mean? And her response was, Michelle is the executor of the estate. If she's pissed at me, can she cut me out of the will? And I told her that that would be a question that she would have to speak to an attorney. about that that was not part of my purview, and she actually gave me a hug and thanked me. Incredibly, Clara just gave Locke her main motivation for killing her father.

Greed. Locke now had more than enough evidence to get a search warrant for Clara's dorm room, which was when they were able to get their hands on Clara's journal. opening it up, glancing at it, Locke is stunned by one particular entry. Regarding her father, Clara wrote, He never loved me. I hate him. I feel no love, only hatred, pure white hatred, and he deserves to die. Yet, there was one more piece of important evidence they recovered from her dorm. The computer became a wealth of information in the IAM platform that she utilized to communicate with the other individuals.

Clara's journal became a very important part of the investigation. Specifically, one entry stated, I could kill someone and not care, but be glad I released the tension. And as early as 2000, she was stating, people are smart. They'll figure it out. And she followed that up with, suck it up and do it. It took several additional months, but the Loudoun County Sheriff's Office was able to collect enough evidence to prove Clara Schwartz was the driving force

behind this extremely brutal crime. Absolutely with this information, in our minds, she had set this up and basically prompted Kyle to kill her father. The information that Clara provided also added great credence to her involvement, including the statement where she said, in my heart of hearts, I knew that he was going there to kill my father. They arrested Clara Schwartz for the murder of her father in February 2002. But her case was not so clear cut. Sure, they could place Kyle and Mike and Katie at the crime. scene, allow them to testify against their leader, the Lord of Chaos, but the evidence against

Clara had some problems. Clara's was more circumstantial because Michael and Katie were cooperative and provided information that subsequently implicated Kyle as well as themselves, having gone there on that night. But Clares was certainly more of a circumstantial case in some regard that was supported by the journal entries and computer IMs that she had. The question now was, would they be able to get a conviction against Clara, the alleged mastermind? Or did she have a plan the entire time, a rabbit up her sleeve, perhaps, proving that she was, in fact, worthy of that 190 IQ she claimed to have? Next time, in the final episode of Fatal Fantasy,

was Clara actually suffering from mental illness all along herself? Well, she thought he was trying to poison her or somehow kill her, but you don't know whether that was a delusion? While the experts see a diabolical criminal mastermind. In my opinion, Clara has the largest hand in this, and she's very narcissistic. I think she was afraid her father might be getting ready to cut her out of the will, which made her want to hurry this along.

But will a surprise witness proved to have the most damning statement of all. The dark day is when, unfortunately, Mr. Swartz was Kelp. Clara had called me, and she was talking to me, I guess, to create an alibi for herself. Don't want to wait for that next episode? You don't have to. Unlock all episodes of Fatal Fantasy ad-free right now by subscribing to the Binge podcast channel. Search for The Binge on Apple Podcasts and hit subscribe at the top of the page.

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