The Binge Crimes: Night Shift - Finding Mom's Killer | 3. The House on Wolf Road

Episode Date: March 17, 2025

As Lieutenant Dave Messmore continues his search for Noreen, a series of clues leads him to a mysterious house in Erie, Pennsylvania. Binge all episodes of Finding Mom's Killer, ad-free today by su...bscribing to The Binge. Visit The Binge Crimes on Apple Podcasts and hit ‘subscribe’ or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access.  The Binge – feed your true crime obsession. Finding Mom’s Killer is part of The Binge - subscribe to listen to all episodes, all at once, ad-free right now. From serial killer nurses to psychic scammers – The Binge is your home for true crime stories that pull you in and never let go. Follow The Binge Crimes and The Binge Cases wherever you get your podcasts to get new stories on the first of the month, every month. Hit ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Finding Mom’s Killer show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com. The Binge – feed your true crime obsession. A Sony Music Entertainment and Orbit Media production. Find out more about The Binge and other podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts and follow us @sonypodcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:15 By mid-January 1990, Noreen Boyle had been missing for about two weeks. And her 11-year-old son, Collier, was desperately trying to find her. We go to my father's office and on the way back we stop at a gas station. My father used to, do you know what mallocups are? They're like Reese cups with marshmallow in them. He was like really into mallocups. So we went into the gas station to get those. But he left me in the truck.
Starting point is 00:01:49 And I'm watching through the windshield and I see him inside the gas station. And I just start rummaging through his truck and I open up the center console. And that's when I find two photographs. One is of a house that I've never seen before. And the other one is of his girlfriend, Sherry Campbell, with her two kids, who I knew, and they're sitting in front of a fireplace that's like covered in plastic.
Starting point is 00:02:16 So it looks like a new fireplace. What do these photos mean? Collier calls up Mansfield police lieutenant Dave Messmore, his partner in the hunt for his mother. And what does he say when you tell him about the photos? Hmm. Hmm. And that was when things started to sort of get... hairy.
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Starting point is 00:05:26 was about to relocate. Almost as soon as he began looking into the disappearance of Noreen Boyle, Dave learned that her husband was planning a disappearing act of his own. Dr. Jack Boyle was leaving town. What happened was Jack got a contract in Erie, Pennsylvania to work for a large company. He'd been traveling back and forth to Erie
Starting point is 00:05:53 to set this whole clinic up. Dr. Jack Boyle had made no secret of the move. A month earlier, he'd placed an ad in the local paper informing patients that he was shutting down his practice. So I called up to Erie and had a detective work with me, and he started to talk to people that knew him and had met him. It didn't take long for the Erie detective to learn about Jack. He seemed to be setting up a new life in Erie,
Starting point is 00:06:21 and he'd have the means to do it. At his new job, he stood to make a lot of money, about $500,000 a year, which would be worth over a million dollars today. The detective learned that Jack had already bought a house in Erie, one a lot bigger than the Boyle House in Mansfield. 3,000 square feet, four bedrooms, a two and a half car garage, a new fireplace, and a huge unfinished basement. It was on a street called Wolf Road. The more this detective worked on it up there he said that's just a lot of strange things going on with this guy. I said yeah I know. For instance, there was Jack's companion
Starting point is 00:07:06 when looking at houses. Here's the realtor describing that companion. I'd say mid 20s, 26, 27. She was small, petite, brown hair, brown eyes, and very pregnant. He walked in, and he shook my hand. He says, I'm Jack Boyle this is my wife Sherry.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Sherry as in Sherry Campbell was pregnant with Jack's child but she wasn't his wife not yet. Now introducing your much younger extremely pregnant girlfriend as your wife is hardly illegal, and it's a lot less complicated to explain to a stranger. But the situation did get complicated. There was something else the detective learned from the realtor. It wasn't just Jack's house. It was apparently Jack and Sherry's house. The contract of sale for the Wolf Road house was signed by two people,
Starting point is 00:08:09 Jack Boyle and someone calling herself N. Sherry Boyle. N. Sherry Boyle was, of course, Jack's girlfriend. He presented her as his wife, and when she signed her name, it wasn't her name. Turned out it was useful for Jack to have his, quote, unquote, wife with him to sign papers. Because of the divorce proceedings, Jack's finances were tied up with Noreen's. To get a mortgage, Jack had to get his wife's approval. And apparently, his wife
Starting point is 00:08:47 did give her approval. The new wife, Mrs. N. Sherry Boyle. She forged her name. It was like Sherry was erasing Noreen. Now, as for Sherry's forgery, maybe all this was just a naive, love-struck young woman doing whatever her older, wealthier lover asked. Dave wasn't so sure. He wondered, was Sherry involved in Noreen's disappearance? Don't tell me she didn't know what was going on. Dave soon learned something else he found suspicious.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Jack paid the house's full asking price, nearly $300,000 without negotiating, except for one condition. He wanted to move in two weeks early, before the end of the year. Jack said he was starting work in Erie in early January. The seller agreed and Jack picked up the keys to the Wolf Road house at noon on December 30th.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Noreen disappeared 15 hours later. Hmm. To Dave, the time was starting to seem meticulously planned. But to what end? Then, according to the eerie detective, the realtor made a strange comment. Here's what the detective recalls. There's something in my mind.
Starting point is 00:10:15 She says, I can't think of it right now, but she says something just stands out. She says, I wish I could tell you. And I say, well, when you recall it, you have my number. Just give me a call at work and let me know. Remember those photos Junior Detective Collier Landry Boyle told Lieutenant Messmore he discovered in his father's truck?
Starting point is 00:10:34 The unfamiliar house, Sherry Campbell and her children standing in front of a new fireplace? That was the Erie house, the one on Wolf Road. Dave's investigation had already led him to the new house, but he thanked Collier, praised his efforts. Dave had grown fond of Collier. He felt terrible for him. And the photos did help sharpen Dave's understanding.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Collier was being supplanted. So was Noreen. Sherry and her kids, they were Jack's family now. Talked to Kaia a lot about how his dad treated him, even as a small child. His dad didn't like him. Dave figured if Jack was hoping to make a fresh start in Erie with a new wife and a new house, then Noreen must have been in the way. Dave was now convinced the Erie house was a key to Noreen's disappearance. These little things kept narrowing it down to Erie, Pennsylvania. Collier constantly had more tidbits to report to Dave. He'd call Dave a couple times a week.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Any reason to reach out was a good one. I just needed to be reminded that there was somebody in my life that also remembered my mother that was doing something to try to find her. Somebody else is in this with me. It's not just me. So Collier kept sharing intel with Dave about his father's movements, and Jack was constantly on the move.
Starting point is 00:12:15 By this point, December 1989 into January 1990, Jack was leading a kind of double life. He wasn't just going back and forth between Mansfield and Erie to relocate his office – a three-hour drive each way. He was staying at Sherry's place most nights, then getting up at 5 a.m. and hurrying back to the Boyle family residence where, most mornings, Collier found him sleeping on the couch in the living room.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Apparently, Jack was intent on keeping up appearances. But according to Collier, in other ways, he let his appearance slip. So my father always had these really, really well manicured hands. He was really particular about that. You know, when you're a doctor, you're always washing your hands and stuff,
Starting point is 00:13:04 so he was really careful with that. Because when you're a doctor, you're always washing your hands and stuff, so he was really careful with that. And so I start noticing there's like cuts on his hands. My father comes home one night and his shoulders hurt or really sore. And he asked me to rub Ben Gay on his shoulders because he said he had been moving boxes all day. And there was some bruising on his arms too. I thought that was weird. My father was not like a manual labor person.
Starting point is 00:13:29 Collier told me that his dad came home from Erie, Pennsylvania. And his back and his arms were hurting, and Collier had to rub Bengay on him. I thought, you know, that's a little bizarre. And then a tip came into the Mansfield Police Department. This tip changed everything for Dave. An anonymous woman called. She said she worked for a friend of Jack's
Starting point is 00:13:57 and she'd rented a piece of machinery for Dr. Boyle, a jackhammer. Had Dr. Boyle taken up manual labor after all? So you find out that he rented a jackhammer. What's your reaction then? That's called a hint. The cops visited easy rental in Mansfield. According to the store manager, the man who rented the jackhammer was definitely Jack. He paid for it with a personal check, given his driver's license as ID. He picked up the jackhammer on December 29th.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Noreen went missing in the early hours of December 31st. To Dave, the way those dates fit together sure seemed suspicious. Noreen disappears, and Dr. Boyle just happens to have a jackhammer handy. Hmm. I kept thinking, is it possible this guy actually would bury the body in his house?
Starting point is 00:15:04 Keep in mind, Noreen is still just a missing person. There's no body, which means there's no murder. But what if Dave finds Noreen's body buried beneath the Wolf Road house? Well, that would change everything. But now Dave is worried. If Dr. Jack Boyle is a murderer, well, then Collier is living
Starting point is 00:15:27 under a murderer's roof. And then Jack makes a proposal to Collier. We're having this conversation at the dinner table and he says, you know Collier, I know this has been really hard for you with mommy, you know, abandoning us. We're all having a really tough time, myself included. Like I don't know why she would be doing this to us. I have a medical convention that's happening in Clearwater, Florida. He says to me that we should take a father and son trip together
Starting point is 00:16:06 to go to this medical convention so I could have a break from everything. Father and son had taken trips to Florida before, but this one felt different. Collier was afraid. So the next morning I go to school, I call Dave and I say, this is what's happening. I said, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:16:32 So I called Children's Services and I said to the head of it, I said, let me tell you what I'm doing. And I explained everything to him. I said, now this guy wants to take Collier on a vacation. My fear is that something will happen to Collier. He goes, oh. He said, all right. He called me back later and said, we're gonna remove Collier and put him in an approved home to stay with some people. I said good that's exactly what I want. I didn't trust Jack at all. By now Dave is convinced that Jack's capable of anything including killing his own son.
Starting point is 00:17:19 A few days later on January 25th, Collier awoke to some surprise visitors. There are these two people from Children's Services. They come into my room and they're like, you've got 20 minutes to pack a bag. We're getting you out of here. And I can hear all this commotion downstairs, like all hell breaking loose. My grandmother is yelling at somebody, I'm like, what is happening? And I start packing a bag for myself
Starting point is 00:17:52 and I pack a bag for my sister with like her toys. So we're coming downstairs and there's Dave Messmore talking to my grandmother. So they take me to the principal of my school's house and she kind of is telling me, you're going to stay here for a little bit while everything gets sorted out. Jack missed the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:18:18 He'd left early that morning. That night camping out at his principal's home with his little sister, Collier had the worst asthma attack of his life and was brought to the hospital. Out of his house, away from his father, his breath recovered. He was in stable condition. The next morning, his principal, now his guardian, came into the hospital room. She had news for him. Collier. Lieutenant Messmore found your mother. This podcast is brought to you by June's Journey, an exciting new procedural detective video game. Use your observation skills to find hidden clues and uncover dark secrets.
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Starting point is 00:20:30 was located in Mill Creek, which has its own police department. That's how Detective Dugan got involved. Once I was assigned the case, Dave Messmore was my go-to guy. He and I were constantly talking and I know that he took this case really to heart because of the children, especially Collier. Because of Dave's intervention, Collier was now out of harm's way. On January 25th,
Starting point is 00:20:59 Children's Services had taken him away from Jack. That same day, Lieutenant Dave Messmore and the Mansfield police made another big move. They executed a search warrant on the Boyle household. The police made a big show of it. Lots of equipment, lots of manpower, but they found nothing. No physical evidence, no blood, no indications of a struggle, nothing in the Boyle's three cars.
Starting point is 00:21:32 In short, no evidence of murder. But Dave was not discouraged. He wasn't the type to let go, which is why he had put a backup plan in motion. Here's Detective Mike Dugan again. We waited until they completed their execution of the search warrant in Mansfield, and when that turned up negative, that's when we went and applied for a search warrant to go and search the Wolf Road address.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Just as police were coming up empty at the Boyle residence in Mansfield, police in Mill Creek township 180 miles away were seeking a court order to search the house on Wolf Road. It wasn't clear they'd get it. As even Dave admits, that search warrant relied on some questionable leaps in logic and pretty thin evidence. After all, what was the evidence that there even was a body, or that the body was in the Erie house? So I call up there in Erie and I said, look, here's what I've got. And I said, I'm very, very interested in getting in that new house.
Starting point is 00:22:47 And they said, oh boy, you have any more than that? That's about the time that the eerie detective heard once again from the realtor who'd sold Jack the house. Remember, she'd said there was one more strange thing about Jack, but at the time she couldn't quite recall it. Well, she'd remembered it. He wanted a copy of the design plans, the blueprints, and he asked me to find out what the foundation of the home was.
Starting point is 00:23:21 I said, it's probably gravel. He said, no, no, he says, if I were to break into the home was, I said, it's probably gravel. He says, no, no, he says, if I were to break into the basement floor, what will I hit? What is underneath that floor? If I ever want to lower the floor, finishing off as a playroom for the kids. I thought it was kind of strange because it
Starting point is 00:23:38 had a really high ceiling. I'm tall and I had high heels on and I estimated 10 feet. I don't know what it is, but it's an extremely high basement. That is something that sticks in your mind. Why would he want to lower the basement? What was he going to do? The Realtors' new information went into the application for the search warrant. And they said, we have a judge that we will take this to. The judge had been a former prosecutor,
Starting point is 00:24:10 and he went, there you go. There you go. Dave's supposedly flimsy application had been signed by a judge. Dave now had what he most wanted, a chance to search the house on Wolf Road. David fixated on that house, a fixation that his superiors did not share. My captain was not behind me.
Starting point is 00:24:38 The day that I got ready to serve a search warrant, captain said, what are you doing? I told him what I was doing. He said, you gotta be kidding. I said, no. He said, you really think that a doctor would kill somebody and take the body up to the area of Pennsylvania? I said, I don't know, but I'm gonna find out.
Starting point is 00:25:07 According to Lieutenant Messmore, his superiors were pretty much convinced that go-it-alone Dave had gotten hooked on a wayward theory, and now, based on that theory, was going to go tear up the house of a prominent local physician. He said, you're gonna embarrass the police department? I said, I don't care who he is. It has to be done. Maybe Dave's superiors had a point.
Starting point is 00:25:32 Maybe he was too close to this one. For Dave, this wasn't just another case. This was personal. He was offended by Dr. Jack Boyle. Disgusted and insulted for what he did to his family. The way he treated Collier, it was with a lot of disdain. On the morning of January 25th, the search of the Boyle residents in Mansfield produced nothing. So Lieutenant Dave Messmore and a local prosecutor climbed into Dave's department-issued Oldsmobile and made the long drive to Erie.
Starting point is 00:26:17 In Dave's recollection, it was a rough trip. The weather was bad. It was snowing and everything. So we drove up there through, I don't know, six inches of snow, and it got worse and worse. What should have been a three-hour drive turned into a five-hour slog. And for what? Let's be real. A doctor with no history of violent crime is going to murder his wife, a premeditated murder, in their home with his mother and children sleeping nearby. Oh, and his mastermind is going to rent a jackhammer to dig his wife's grave using a personal check with his name on it?
Starting point is 00:27:01 It's a little far-fetched, this whole thing. That doesn't seem to you like you're on a wild goose chase. You couldn't convince me there was anything more bizarre than this. I was not prepared to dismiss any viable theory. For Dave, this case was different from any other he'd worked on. I had an inclination to do things that maybe I wouldn't have done in other cases. Some people don't have any faith, and I have faith.
Starting point is 00:27:32 I think God does lead you in the right directions a lot of times. And Dave believed God was leading him to Wolf Road. When the time we got there, we were late, and the lieutenant out there had four guys ready to work with us. They said, well, it's nice you got here. I said, well, I'm lucky I got here. When Dave arrived at Wolf Road, it was dark, already past 5, and the temperature was in the low 20s.
Starting point is 00:28:04 He met a team of local technicians and cops, including Detective Mike Dugan. We actually got to the Wolf Road address around, well, about 20 after five or so, and no one answered the door. I kicked the door in. It was kind of enjoyable, yeah. The eerie cops had canvassed local hardware stores and discovered that Jack had purchased a large roll of indoor-outdoor carpeting.
Starting point is 00:28:34 What you might know as AstroTurf. All over this two-and-a-half car garage was indoor-outdoor carpeting. I said, well, it's got to be under there. And we rolled up the carpeting. None of the concrete underneath was damaged or anything. This was not good news. Dave had half a dozen men traipsing around this big, empty house.
Starting point is 00:29:00 Turned out Jack and Sherry had not moved in, despite the rush to collect the keys. There was no furniture, though Dave did notice a working phone. They'd struck out in the garage and according to Dave, some of the cops were getting antsy. That kind of made me concerned that maybe that wasn't what I was going to find her at. Dave led the other cops from the garage into the house toward the only other room where a jackhammer might be used, the basement. There was almost like a dampness in the air. And as I opened the door to the basement, this wave of drying paint came up.
Starting point is 00:29:54 The basement was not finished other than the fact that the floor had been painted. And in one section was green indoor-outdoor carpeting that had been glued down. And on top of the indoor-outdoor carpeting there was shelving units. Jack had a contractor come in and build two-by-four shelving all along one wall. So the technicians were working and looking all along the walls and looking around that shelving that was built. And one of them said, gosh, this is like almost fresh concrete that didn't dry. Splattered on the wall. And we got down on our hands and knees.
Starting point is 00:30:40 We're feeling along the shelving and there was a little bit of an indentation under the shelving, which was odd because the rest of the basement was pristine. At that point in time, we decided that we're going to have to take the shelving unit down. So the other lieutenant said, go get sledgehammers. The cops knocked the shelving down with sledgehammers, having a good time destroying what Jack and Sherry had imagined as the children's playroom. And I'm thinking, oh boy, how am I going to explain this? But Dave proceeded.
Starting point is 00:31:17 Hold it all bound, and then ripped up the carpeting that was glued to the floor. There was something else the cops had discovered when they were canvassing the local hardware stores. In addition to finding out about Jack's purchase of the indoor-outdoor carpeting, they learned he'd bought several bags of quick-drying concrete.
Starting point is 00:31:39 Now, even quick-drying concrete can take up to a month to fully cure or harden. And as the cops discovered, in the basement of the Wolf Road house, under the shelving and the indoor outdoor carpeting, there was a section of the floor that hadn't completely cured. And that area was six foot eight inches in one direction
Starting point is 00:32:04 and two feet six inches another so it actually almost looked like a a gravesite the size of a gravesite at that point we took the sledgehammer and I hit like in the center of the uncured concrete I broke it up a little bit and then got down and started digging it out. They did it with little tiny screwdrivers and everything to try not to disturb anything. The uncured concrete was about three inches thick. The team broke that up and hit dirt.
Starting point is 00:32:40 And then something caught Dave's eye. Then we found something I was looking for, and that was a green tarp. Something Collier had mentioned seeing around the Boyle house recently. And I reached in and grabbed the tarp and started pulling it up a little bit. And I got a distinct odor from the hole. And it was that of a dead body. Once you smell a dead body you never forget that smell so, um, whoo! Hours passed, it was getting late.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Hours passed, it was getting late. The tarp was wrapped with a rope, cut the rope so that we could open up the tarp. And there was a woman's body. And because it had been wrapped, it had been in a cool, moist grave, there wasn't any really decay. We found that she had a white plastic bag over her head, and that was tied around her neck. The only thing that she was wearing were panties. She was naked. And that's all she had was just a pair of panties on
Starting point is 00:34:04 and then the jewelry. She was naked. And that's all she had was just a pair of panties on and then the jewelry. On her neck, there were two chains. She also had a wristwatch on, a Rolex. We went and actually cut the plastic bag to reveal the face. When the technicians cut the bag open, blonde hair tumbled out.
Starting point is 00:34:26 It looked like the hair in a photo Dave had brought with him. A photo of Noreen. And I checked the picture I had of her. And it was very obvious when I looked at her that it was Noreen.
Starting point is 00:34:42 He tentatively identified the body that we had just unearthed as Noreen Boyle. After taking one last look at the body in the basement, Lieutenant Dave Messmore walked upstairs with one thought on his mind. I can't wait to get my hands on Jack. It's time to lock him up. So Dave picked up Dr. Jack Boyle's house phone. He woke up his captain back in Mansfield, the same captain who, according to Dave, told him he was about
Starting point is 00:35:26 to embarrass the department. And I said, I've got Noreen's body up here. He said, what? And I said, I've got Noreen's body. She's been murdered. I said, I want you to write up a murder warrant and take it and serve it on Jack before he gets away somewhere. He said, what, what, what, what, what, a murder warrant? And I said, yep. He was shocked about the whole thing. In the early morning hours of January 26th,
Starting point is 00:36:02 a phalanx of Mansfield police headed to the Boyle House and knocked on the door. Jack was home and came out and they said you're under arrest for homicide. And he says, okay, I don't have anything to say. Nothing. Record five million dollar bond set tonight in Mansfield for a doctor accused of murdering his wife. Tonight, 46 year old Jack Boyle sits in the Richland County Jail on an aggravated murder charge.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Dave was exhausted. So was the prosecutor he'd brought along. Still, they took a moment to celebrate. They headed to the nearest cheap motel in their room. They drank beer, ate pizza, and Dave, in his glory, surveyed their surroundings. Looked over in the corner, and there was a whole herd of ants eating somebody else's food. The thing was a dump.
Starting point is 00:37:07 It was awful. The next day, Dave began the long drive back home to Mansfield. Noreen had been found. Jack had been locked up. That evening, Dave phoned the house where the Boyle children had been taken into care. I said, I need to talk to Collier. At the home of Collier's foster family, Dave and Collier went into a small TV room,
Starting point is 00:37:32 just the two of them. Dave sat on a chair facing Collier on a couch. Their knees were a few inches apart. He told me, you know, that they had found my mother's body, and it was buried underneath the house that I found the photos of. I remember asking him, did she look like she was at peace? He said, yes.
Starting point is 00:37:59 I'm sure he was lying. And I was really sad. I was really sad. I was also sad for Dave. Because I knew he wanted a different outcome too. I knew he probably wanted more than anything to say. I found her, she's okay. We've found her shopping. And you know, you know, she just need a little break,
Starting point is 00:38:28 but she's back now. I knew that's probably the story he would have rather have told me. But I also know that he wanted to be there to tell me about it. He was my partner in crime. I said, it's better that you know what happened to her than go on for years and years and never find her. And I said, well, it's my job, Collier. It's for you. I said, I'm really sorry.
Starting point is 00:38:56 There's a finality to it because there's always that little like modicum of hope. And I believe I started crying, but I also was just, my whole life, it's just, everything had just changed. Kyle was in effect an orphan. I'm all alone. And the one person that can make it all better isn't there anymore. And it wasn't over yet. Before he left the Guardian's house that evening, Lieutenant Dave Messmore had a request for Collier.
Starting point is 00:39:44 I told him he might have to testify. It wasn't very often that prosecutors would use a young child to testify. But it was important. He said absolutely. In the trial of Dr. Jack Boyle for the murder of Noreen Boyle, their son Collier was to be the prosecution's star witness. And there would be a trial, because Dr. Jack Boyle, despite the body found in his basement, pleaded not guilty.
Starting point is 00:40:22 Did you, honor, about December 31st of 1989 cause the death of Noreen Boyle? No, I did not. I never harmed her at all. What was Jack's defense? He was the innocent victim of a conspiracy to set him up. Don't want to wait for that next episode? You don't have to. Unlock all episodes of Finding Mom's Killer ad free right now by subscribing to the Binge
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Starting point is 00:41:56 our executive producer is Jonathan Hirsch. Special thanks to Emily Rassick, Steve Ackerman, Catherine St. Louis, Sammy Allison, Fisher Stevens, Rhea Julian, Dan Bobkoff. At WME, we'd like to thank Evan Krasik, Marissa Hurwitz, and Ben Davis. We want to also thank Carl Hunnell at The Richland Source for the generous use of his podcast studio. And a really warm thank you to Collier Landry for
Starting point is 00:42:25 sharing his story and for his production assistance.

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