The Bobby Bones Show - 25W: A Blue Blood May Get Bounced Early + Our Visit to Tampa with NFL DB Logan Ryan + Shohei & Gambling + Bobby's Big Discovery

Episode Date: March 21, 2024

With Kevin McCullar Jr. out for the entire tournament, Bobby gives his prediction on how far Kansas can make it. The guys went to Tampa, FL to visit long time veteran NFL DB, Logan Ryan to talk about his career, playing for the 49ers this past year, and much more! Plus, Shohei Ohtani's interpreter has been fired over some gambling debt, and Bobby discovers a set of points he never knew existed!    Download the DraftKings Sportsbook App today: https://dkng.co/bobbysports If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/MI/NJ/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/NH), 888-789-7777/visit http://ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 1-877-770-STOP (7867) (LA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), call/text TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA).   21+ (18+ WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/LA/MI/NJ/ NY/PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. N/A in NH/OR/ON. New customers only. Valid 1 per new customer. Min. $5 deposit. Min $5 wager. $200 issued as eight (8) $25 free bets. Ends 9/19/22. See http://draftkings.com/sportsbook for details.   Follow the Show: @25Whistles   Follow the Crew: @MrBobbyBones @ProducerEddie @KickoffKevin @MikeDeestro @ReidYarberrySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Blow it, dude. It's golden. Is that because Arkansas's not in? No, it's just... Oh, that's what it is. I got a, like a canker sore.

Oh, have the herbs? No, it's not a cold sore. It's canker sore. Don't get that good. Anytime I get mouth trauma, like dentist or... I will use a C.P. tab and so I have a new one and it like rubbed my lip and so I get a little malchromat

I get the inside get the little cuts do have you seen the actual cut no I don't like looking at it I don't either and it's crazy when you have one so tiny because I have something in my mouth right now that I haven't looked at it I haven't looked at it but I can picture it it feels like a skin tag is inside my cheek oh no it's not that

yours is like a disease I'm dying mine's like a little slit it burnt you know it's a it's a canker sore yeah I know what that is 25 whistles presented by draft kings use the promo code bobby sports when download in the draft kings app and stay tuned you'll hear more about draft kings and all it has to offer throughout the show draft kings the crown is yours coming up we'll sit down with logan ryan we love that dude won two super bowls with the patriots uh played for the titans played for the bucks made a bunch of money with the giants 49ers and then the 40 i was getting

there god dang dude it's the last it's the last team i don't want you to forget him i wasn't i wasn't even done like he went to the super bowl with the 49ers Why would you jump in like that? I just want to make, just covering you, dude, it's covering you. So we did talk with Logan coming up in just a little bit.

Let's get to the Tiddle Taddle. It's time for the stupidest name ever. It's the Tiddle Taddle with kick-up. With Kevin McCuller Jr. out for Kansas, the whole tournament, how early do you think they'll get bounced? I think they'll beat Sanford, which by the way,

I don't know when you're going to listen to this. We're putting this up today, right? Yes, sir. So I think they'll beat Sanford, and they'll play the winner of McNeese and Gonzaga, which I still think they could have beat. They're still Kansas, right?

And they still have other players that may not be the star that he is, but that can be stars too or they wouldn't be at Kansas. They have a great coach. I can see them getting to the Sweet 16. Wow.

I think a lot. Optimist. No, I know, because I don't give a crap. I mean, I'm not an optimist. I mean, like, I'm looking at the bright side. I don't have a relationship with Kansas. They wouldn't let us come to their campus and do our show. That's what I'm saying.

Why are you taking the Sweet 16? I'm not. I'm just giving an impartial trying to be objective. I still think they can get to the Sweet 16 by winning those two games. Gonzaga is in our minds. They're still good, but they're not that powerhouse team with a couple of real good players that go to the NBA. So I think they'll beat Sanford.

I think they'll probably beat the winner of McNeese-Gonzagga. I think they'll probably get to the Sweet 16. He, uh, McCullough's average in 18 points a game. I think they can find that. But it wasn't just about how good he was offensively. He is their star. Yeah. And I think a lot of people that didn't know that probably picked Kansas to go a lot further.

And I'm not looking at a bracket. I think they're a four seed. Yes. Right? Yep. That was already pretty low for Kansas typically. Yeah, they limped into the tournament. Yeah.

But I think they will go through a little rehab. Mm-hmm. Physical therapy. Oh. I think I think they'll win a couple games. Okay. All right, next step. Following Caliperi's comments about not wanting to expand the tournament,

how many teams would you like to see in your ideal world in the tournament? I don't mind how it is now as far as like the 64 teams. However, what I don't like is you win your conference. It's a big deal if you're one of these mid-majors. And all of a sudden you've got to go play in a freaking playing game. Like, that's what I would change. That sucks. At-large teams should have to play in the playing games.

You got invited in. You're a 10-seed. you're in at large, you're at what. That's who should go, the teams that were invited in who didn't win their conference. That's the change that I would make. I wouldn't make it 120. My gosh. It would last a year.

Well, it would last one more week. Okay, that's a long time. Marchman is already like once. I was being sarcastic. You just started on that week instead of a Thursday, it started on a Tuesday or Wednesday. Yeah, yeah. But you know, dude, once in like the first.

finals come around. You're a final four. It's like, man, it's been, it's been a while. Like, I'm a little worn out just from like the last two weeks. That's like NBA playoffs. Yeah, but even after the first, yeah, that's the NBA for sure. But after the first weekend, then you get to the second weekend, you're like, dang, we don't have games on all day, this sucks. Yeah, there's that. Yeah. But the NBA, totally different animal. That's way too long. Way too long. But that feels, the NBA playoffs almost feel like that's the real season.

Yeah. Just not everybody gets to play. Yeah. That sucks. Only teams that matter. I'm good. With this, I like college football to expand. I like that. I think that should go to 16. I'm good with this. I just don't like that the teams that win their conference don't automatically get in.

That's what I would change. You're at large. You're the last four to get in. You're at large. Whatever the case is, you're 10. You go play in the playing game and check back if you win. That's what I would say. All right, next.

With a number of great coaches in this tournament, if you could play for one, who would it be? Well, if you're playing for Calipari and Kentucky, you mean you're probably going to the NBA. Oh, true. Wow, you thought it that way. Okay. I'm thinking me who has no chance to go to the NBA, you know, like realistically. But you also have no chance to play for these coaches. What if they give me like a make-a-wish and I get to pick one of these coaches?

You know what I mean? That's how I was thinking of it. Okay. I like it. You come back with your make-a-wish because that's pretty funny, and I did not think about it that way. I thought the way of like further my career. Sure. So let me go, if Calipari recruits me, I'm probably a high four or five. five-star kid and I can be one and done and get out to the NBA. Now, that's not because of playing for him the coach specifically. That's because of the culture. He's built and he only recruits

the kids. So Calaparra for that reason. But if it were just like who I think I would jive with the most, like the culture I like, like probably shock is smart. Oh. Like I like him. I liked him when he was in Texas. And he turned Marquette into a real player. Seems like a guy that can get at you, but also is the opposite of what Belichick is in the documentary, like, can do the opposite too. And he seems your style has got cool, like, shoes that he wears. Yeah, I just feel like he would be able to have a range whenever it comes to his coaching style. He could be hard on you or he could also be like, hey, that was a,

that was a really great job he did last night. So probably shock as smart as a human. I like that. But Calipare, because I want to go to the NBA next year. So smart. You're making a wish. Yeah, I'm not going to the NBA. Don't care about joining a winning team.

However, though, this team is a winning team, and they're pretty good. I'd play for Bruce Pearl. Bruce Pearl just seems like a fun environment. And whatever he's going to do, he's going to be intense about it, and I'm going to have a blast playing for him. And we'll have barbecues and stuff. No, you don't want to do that because then he'll get it out. Right, right, right, right.

Yeah, yeah. Forget that. Take that out. Who else would I even just like to play for? The coach at Long Beach State, who's now doing the pressers, And he's like, you guys can ask me a question, you know, because he's been fired. But he's playing in the NCAA tournament now because they won his conference tournament. It's Long Beach State, right?

His press was so funny because he's up. He goes, hey, you can ask me whatever you want, but if I don't like it, I'm not answering. I don't even work here anymore. That's great. So funny. Yeah. All right, next question. Last one.

After Netflix announced a new series, Receivers, if you could watch a documentary on any position in any sport, what would it be? Any on any sport? That's a good question. receivers looks interesting to me because I think they actually have bigger personalities at least in the past and quarterbacks often have because I mean look at

T.O. Look at Chad Johnson. Look at, we can keep going. You almost have to be a diva to be a wide receiver. You have to have that mentality of me, me, me, because it's one on one or one versus a zone. Or a quarterback, it's really you versus everybody out there, right? It could be good.

Like, Devonte Adams is part of that show, though. I don't see him having a huge personality, though, which will be interesting. Yeah. He does Taco Bell commercials. That's kind of cool. Yeah, but it's in his house. He just has to go downstairs. Right, the guy's down there.

Yeah, it's not even not hard to do. Any sport. I know. Let's just evaluate each sport at a time. In football... I like the kickers. I'm boring. No, no, no.

But that's the thing. Like, we already kind of have an idea. Okay, so I guess the question is, are we basing it on the celebrity of the position or what the position does? because it is different because you would go quarterbacks because they're the most famous. But if it's just like what that position is, what they have to deal with, what's the question?

Quarterbacks out, because they already did it. So we're not doing quarterback. So we're no quarterbacks, no receivers. But we get to use the celebrity of the position too. Of the position, yeah. Okay, well, that's different. Because I was thinking along the lines of like, what would the reality show?

How entertaining would that be? So I'm thinking like pitchers would be cool because they're off every day of the week. Oh, so he's been three days with the Osbournes. Ozzie and the family the other three days. Right? You know, it's like, what do they do when the team's good? But that counts.

And that's good. Yeah, I think that's cool. To see the behind scenes of like their off days. Yeah, dude, just messing around with everything because they're not worried about playing because they're not playing for the next five days. Are you going pitchers? I'm going pictures. Pictures on Netflix.

Coming soon. And they're just sitting there being like, hey, what are you doing today? Nothing, bro. I don't have a game until four days. Spitting seeds in a cup from a distance. Okay. In football, quarterback's candy receivers. The next most.

exciting position where probably be linebackers because they're talking and having to be the quarterback of the other side like they're calling plays. Oh yeah. A bit vocal. So in the football side I'd probably go with linebackers, but I'm going to get there. In baseball, what's fun about, and I played first base is that you talk to other players. Oh, yeah, yeah.

So you'd be miced up for a lot of those interactions. And they always talk to the runner. What are they saying? And then you're also hearing the base coach talk to the runner but he's a That'd be good. So like Netflix, first base. it's as far as they ever got

Tutas, like 20 with a girl. So that's why. Basketball. Big man. The center. I feel that'd be weird in basketball. I mean, point guard. I mean, they're the one.

But again, basketball is almost, the NBA is almost positionless now. So maybe like basketball, I'd do like basketball white guy. Oh, there we go. There's not as much, not as many of them. They're all foreign. Peyton Pritchard.

They're like slow. goofy. The white dude. They've had to like, yeah, Netflix, white guy. That's funny, dude. I don't know anything about hockey. With the goalie and hockey would be cool? I don't know. I don't know. I have no idea.

Never seen a face. It's wrong. You're right. And I get NASCAR, don't really care. Are there any other sports that would be fun? Soccer. Oh, yeah. But they have messed. Okay, I'm just, I'm going to go with him basketball. would do a white guy.

That's a great one, dude. I'd watch that. That is interesting. It has to be a European or any white guy? No, any white guy. Who's the bald dude who wears the headband? He's played for the Lakers. Now he's with...

Caruso? Caruso. He'd be in there for sure. Netflix's new series on the NBA, it's Netflix white guy. I like it. And they follow five white guys. And Jason Williams produces it. Yeah, and their struggle just to keep up.

Like, that's what it... White people suck, you know? That was funny. I would watch, like, Austin Reeves. Austin Reeves was talking to JJ Redick on his podcast. And JJ Reddick was like, so, well, you know, what was the deal? Like, you're a white dude. He goes, yeah, I know.

Everybody was like, I want to guard him. Like, everywhere I went. Yeah, the easy one. Yeah, well, I'll guard the white guy. There's also, like, Larry Bird that in some of the videos of Larry Bird, he would get offended when they would put a white guy on him. And he would say that to the other team. He's like, you're going to put a white guy on me?

Are you serious right now? That's crazy. And then he would dominate them and they'd have to switch off and get a white guy off of them, which is hilarious. By the way, opened the mail yesterday,

random package came in, took the scissors, cut the trim, it wasn't from like a break or a merchant, and I pulled out a signed Larry Bird jersey. What?

Who sent that? A guy. Later Bird? No, I wish. But a guy named Phil Becker who did my podcast and thought it was so funny Eddie signed my ball.

That he sent me a Larry Bird signed Boston Celtics jersey. Wow. Isn't it funny? That's awesome. Yeah, it's funny. So I mean, I wore it. I played ball on it yesterday.

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because he didn't want us drinking it. For more games with names, visit the Iheart Radio app or wherever you get your podcast. Okay, now we're going to get over to Logan Ryan. We went to his house to interview him. Best dude ever.

Awesome. If SpongeBob were singing about him, he'd say, he's the best dude ever. Hey, and shout out to Kevin for not freaking out too much. I thought Kevin would have been real fan girlie around him, but he wasn't. He did spend a little extra time more in the ring. Yeah.

He put both of them on and took a picture. Heck yeah. I just put one. I was like, oh, cool. And Kevin got them both on and took a picture. Super Bowl rings. We flew out to his house in Tampa. He signed up to 4-9ers late last season,

ended up playing and starting and, you know, being a part of the Super Bowl. He's won two Super Bowls with the Patriots. You can follow Logan on Instagram at Logan Ryan. Here, he is. So we're at your house, but it's a lot more than a house. There's like a whole training facility here.

Yeah. Like we pulled up and there is, your football field is how long? Was it 30 yards, 40 yards? No, I think it's close to 50, yeah. So on a 50-yard field, do you train here at the house on that field? Yeah, pretty regularly. I'm not sprinting 100 yards every route most of the time in the game.

You know, we're covering 40 yards, 30 yards, 20 yards, a lot of short area stuff. So that's exactly what I need. There's a pickleball court right next to it, and we're building one in our back yard too, but my wife was like, oh, really? We have a pickleball court? Did your wife give you a hard time about a pickleball court? and a all the time.

My wife was all about it. She's a pickleball player with me. Yeah, we dominate the 30 and up bracket. Coed league. You know, I'm 33. She just turned 33. So we qualify.

I don't care what anyone says. You know, I play my age. And so now my wife's all about it. She's a former division one athlete to softball player, so she's as competitive as me. Yeah,

my wife is a great athlete too, but she just doesn't want to hear the knocking all the time because she knows I'm going to buy one of those machines as soon as it's done. Oh, yeah, you're going to get your service. For sure.

Yeah, I'm just going to be returning like crazy with that thing. So pickleball is a lot of fun. I'm an owner of one of the MLB pickleball teams. Like I have part ownership in one of the teams. And I guess blowing up, like would you be one of those athletes that, because we were playing on Matt Holliday who played in the major leagues for a long time. And he's like touring playing pickleball. Would you got you and your wife go play in any of these pickleball tournaments?

I think so. I mean, I love the sport. Could you get good enough? I think I'm good enough. Yeah, I think we could. Like, I bought this house in 2020, and we were getting a lot of it renovated. We had these South African contractors. And it kept telling me, you got to come play pickleball.

I'm like, what is pickleball? I thought it was like squash or something. I'm like, I don't even know what that is. So anyway, they take me out there. They run me for, like, they beat me 20 to nothing. But anyway, they're teaching me pickleball. I'm like, oh, just like ping pong on your feet, just like this. And I started playing with them weekly.

And those guys are really good. And I'm like, in a year I'm going to be better than you or whatever. And I don't know where I'm at now compared to them. They probably play four days a week. but I realized post-COVID as we were playing, like the courts were filling up. Then I'm showing up and I got to wait 20 minutes to play and there's lines. And it's like the old like blacktop days where you had to win and stay on. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I'm like, man, I'm building my own. So I went to go do a full court basketball court and try to do like a half pickleball half basketball thing. And like the price of concrete was like ridiculous at the time. So I was like, we're just going to build a pickleball court. The price of concrete. Have you looked around to see what else you have here? Like you're worried about the price of concrete? Guy rocketed.

He's got a TV bigger in my house. I always try to get a good deal, man. I'm never overpaying for nothing. How physically? How are you feeling after this last season? Man, I feel great. You know, it helps only playing half a year instead of a full year. I came in there kind of fresh for the most important stretch of the year.

Thanksgiving football. And it was really good, man. It was really fun playing with those boys. Niners organizations, great. Shanahan's great. So I got nothing but positive things to say, especially about the fan base, too. Whenever you don't play for the first half of the year, and they call and say, hey, come play.

Do you have to, like, cram? like to get back in shape and at the same time mentally to learn exactly what they're doing because one is as important as the other yeah i think it's both i've never done that before so to me i just was learning on the fly i definitely had to do a lot of cramming to get in shape just so i didn't get hurt so i was running a lot of miles putting a lot of stuff on my body just so it can handle handle that and then mentally that's always been a strong student in my game um so i always learn everything from every position in the secondary i study at corner then i study at safety and even though i'm saying oh, you're only going to play safety, I ended up starting at nickel in the Super Bowl.

And I haven't practiced that. I haven't played it in three years and didn't practice it since I was there. So I started practicing the week before a Super Bowl, but I was studied for the position. So when they told me that, I almost was like prepared like, all right, at least know what to do. Now I just got to practice doing that. And if you don't know what to do for any young football player or athlete, if you don't know what to do, you can't do it at a high level. You can't play fast.

It doesn't matter how fast you run your 40. You're going to be kind of tip-tunk. You don't necessarily know you have confidence in what you're doing out there. How would you explain a nickel? And tell me if my understanding of it is wrong, but I would say nickel is like a defensive back, but also playing linebacker. Because you've got to, you're watching for the past, basically. That could be a bad explanation. What is yours?

Did you get that from Madden? Oh, basically. Yeah. When I go on nickel package, my best defensive backs are playing linebacker, basically, so I can shut down the crossing around. Yeah, I agree. I think nickel is a very cerebral position in terms. You have to do a little bit of everything. You have to be tied into the run game because you're a linebacker if they run the ball.

If they pass the ball, you have to cover somewhat like a corner, but you're not as much on an island. You have some more help around you. And then you might have to cover some bigger receivers or tight end bodies, depending what you match your personnel up with. So you have to be strong enough to cover a kid or Kelsey. You have to be strong enough to play in the run game. Oh, but by the way, like Keenan Allen and Justin Jefferson, they're putting these guys in the slot every play. So you have to cover the top receivers at times. You have to cover big tight ends.

You also be able to play in the run. So you have to be a very cerebral position. you have help, you have more help around you than a perimeter corner does, but you got to know how to use your help. I picture that you get an email with a PDF that goes, this is what we're doing defensively, like a defensive playbook. Or do they actually mail you a big fat book of 1974 playbook? Like, how does that work?

In 2013, when I got to the New England Patriots, they gave us a big old playbook like that, like an encyclopedia, 600 pages. Of actual paper. Of actual paper. Go to section, cover three pages. And guys had highlighters. And, you know, tension span's not there anymore for that.

And they're like, oh, if you lose that, it's like a $5,000 fine because that's our playbook. So you have to carry that thing in a backpack. Oh, I left in my hotel. I mean, it was like pressure to have that thing on you at all time. So now we have iPads. Everything's on the iPad. So it'll show you the play. Then I have an actual highlight clip of what the play looks like because it's just lines on paper.

And then, like, the players and the coach of the artists to make those lines look like that. So, like, a play might say I have this guy. inside leverage, I cover this guy. Cool. You have him unless the running back does a swing route. Now you don't have him, now you have the running back. Cool. Now if the running back does a swing route, your guy goes inside.

You have the number one receiver comes inside. So it's like, okay, it started really simple, but there's also like different. Those are like defensive checkdowns. They're all checkdowns, yeah. Every play in the NFL is like receivers don't have like on good offenses. They don't have normal routes. They have a comeback route, right? A 15-yard stop.

unless it's pressed coverage, then it's a fade, unless Aaron Rogers likes his back shoulder fade at 18 yards, unless Tom Brady likes that fade at 22 yards, right? Unless he's 10 yards off, now it's a 5-yard hitch. So that same route that he's given can turn it to six different routes based on the quarterback and the coverage. Well, hey, so I have a 10-year-old.

He started playing tackle football, and first year they stuck him at corner. Like, didn't really know the position. And there were a couple of games where he just blew the coverage and they scored on him. And he was down the whole day. And I told him, man, cornerbacks probably the hardest position on the field in football, but I was just talking,

I don't know what I was talking about, I was just trying to make them feel better. Is that true, though? I think so. I think what you're dealing with nowadays, especially with social media, it's like it's so easy to see your mistakes. Like I can cover a guy, your son can cover a guy every single play and do great. And then one play, he blanks out, he trips. He misjudges the ball on the air and it's a six-yard touchdown. Everyone's like, ha-ha, you lost the game, ha-ha, you stink. Because people don't know who to blame. There's not enough knowledge and the camera doesn't see what the low linemen are doing or de linemen are doing. So tackle, quarterback, and corner are the most easily exposed positions for sure. So you have to have a

different mindset, kind of don't care mindset a little bit, an effort mentality. And you kind of got to play really smart also to protect yourself from those moments. And you got to be able to focus throughout the whole game because a little lapse like that, a guy can get a step on you. Knowing what you know now, if you could go back at 12 years old, what position would you play again, would it be the same or would you play somewhere else? Man, I'm really happy with, you know, there's actually two, a couple answers to that.

One, I would play quarterback because that's where the money's at. And I was a quarterback growing up. So they put the ball in my hands and I was a spread option, you know, these quarterbacks you see nowadays. But back in the day, when you're six foot coming out of a quarterback,

that's way too small. You're not a traditional quarterback. Now Kyla Murray's about 5'9. So like the times have caught up But a lot of us played quarterback They took the ball out of our hands Because they said oh you're a young black kid You're not going to be a quarterback in NFL

Who's in the NFL looks like you So now I think there's so much representation of that So I think that's way better But also when I was little Starting at 8 years old My dad made me play a different position every year So I started off like you're going to be a tight end You're going to catch the ball

Like we ran the ball every play I blocked every play Then they're like oh he's pretty good one I put my running back So I played running back And then I played quarterback eventually And then when we would blow teams out, my dad put me on the offensive line and let someone else play quarterback. So I learned a block again.

You played offensive line? When I were a little, 35 or not. When we were up 35 or more, all our skill players went to O line, the O line. The O line ago went to running back. The backup quarterback came in the hand in the ball, let them touch it. So we all got to play. And then on defense, I was a quarterback who also played defense. I never played one side.

I played safety. I played linebacker. I played D.N. I played corner. So when I got to college and I wasn't playing both sides of the ball, I didn't know what to do with myself. I'm like, I get to come off the field. I don't even like, let me go play special teams. Right? I don't even know.

So now I think in the NFL, that's helped me play a lot of different positions. I've played special teams. I've played free safety. I've played strong safety. I played nickel. I'm used to playing so many positions when I was little. I learned a game from different perspectives. When you go into the locker room of a team that's already winning this last season,

you do come on halfway through the year. They have their culture already mostly defined. Did they need what you do or did they need who you are? they needed like why do they call you they called me because they were trying to win a championship and they told me

they wanted a guy who's done it before and they didn't want to mess around and check the practice squads they didn't want to mess around with an inexperienced guy they knew what they had they wanted someone

going there had the confidence to come off the street and go in there and not mess it up but also had the belief in their ability and when I stepped in

in the first day I said guys like I don't have to be here but all due respect like I've made good money in my career I've done everything I wanted

to do. I have beautiful wife and kids all the way, but I came across the country to help win a Super Bowl, period. And they're on the same page about that. Like, we're not here to go to the conference championship. We're not here to win a division. Like, we're here to win the Super Bowl. And like, we made it as far as we could. We didn't win it. But they knew that's what I stepped in to do. They didn't, I didn't come in to hold the clipboard or to like help the younger guys. I came in to help develop everyone to win a championship. That means playing a lot, playing a little, I didn't care. I wanted to do my part. And it ended up having a big part. And I was really honored about that, but they have everything there.

Like, walking in, that was one of the most top two talented best culture teams I've been on. I've been on two other Super Bowl teams. So that's compared to one other Patriots team, that was the top two team I've ever stepped to building in. So I think, you know, the future is bright there. The analogy that I'll make in celebrity culture is usually the more famous a celebrity is, the nicer they are because they're not, they're secure.

Like the major stars, the massive stars, be it, music, acting. they're very secure. They know who they are. They don't have to impress anybody. It's what I would call the soap opera stars. They have to like prove who they are. And like they're not that cool because they're a bit insecure because they want to get to that next stage.

Wow, yeah. Like when you walk into a locker room, I feel like that's the ultimate celebrity. Like they're secure already. And they don't have to treat you a way to make to show you that, wow, you're coming into our place now. The 49ers feel like they're the major celebrity in that they know who they are and they're secure about it.

Is that how I felt? That's how it felt. That's how fun. That's a great. I never even thought of it like that because that's how I always tell the Tom Brady story when I met Tom Brady

he was like the nicest, chillest dude and I didn't even know what to say to him and he introduced himself to me I'm like mom, dad like this dude was so humble I'd never, because he's such a star and I think he's very secure and they're very much like that I think Shanahan has an environment

where he lets Bosa be Bosa he lets McCaffrey be McCaffrey Purdy, you know isn't the most vocal guy but people know he's a leader on the team and when I came in on a Tuesday which is our off day in our world. And a handful of gods being there getting treatment,

handful guys might get an extra lifting. I'm talking about 75% of the team was in there getting an extra lift in. Like, Bosa, Fred Warner, these dudes lift like four or five days a week. We only have to lift twice. And I'm like, this is the team. Like, these guys are on here on their Tuesday. When that's their one day out of the building

and they're all in here grind together and it's week 14 when your body's run down, tired, all you want to do is get a little break. I was like, yeah, these guys are the other guys I like to be around because that's how I'm wired. And they welcomed you in? Yeah, no doubt. Most of them played against me.

So there's earned respect there. I didn't have a lot of guys I played with there. So that was kind of an outsider. But I think after like a practice or two, you know, I kind of went out there like practicing against the offense, covering Kittle, covering Christian, making some guys fumble with a peanut punch. They're like, oh, yeah, he can play. So I was off of that after a week.

Then I started practicing with our defense. So like, yeah, he's got it. And, you know, it ended up being a good time. Logan, you mentioned Tom Brady. but when you played for the Titans, you picked them off. Yeah. Like that was awesome. Yeah.

When you caught that ball, what did it feel like? Was it a little spongy or was it fully aired? Yeah, you know, it was a tie game. No, we were up. We just went up by like, I don't know, like a less than a touchdown. And, you know, there's like less than a minute left or whatever. It's like, Brady has one last, you know, Brady, like, there's rumors. There's probably his last run with the Patriots.

And it's like, okay. shoot, I'm like, I'm not saying I'm scared, but I'm like, here we go again, like one more stop, you know, you got to get one more against this guy. And you've seen it so many go the other way so many times. And like one of the first few plays in the drive, we're playing like this prevent prevent type defense. And throws it to Mohamed Sunu, who was my college roommate. And one of our DBs tips it up. And I kind of just have it perfect. And it kind of went right to me.

And I end up scoring with it. and I just look back at the highlight, and Mike Rable's like, slide, slide, you should have slide. The game's going to be over. And he's, like, mad at me for getting a pick six on Brady with like five seconds left in the game. Because there's that fear, like, we gave Brady five more seconds. Now he's going to score touchdown and go for two

and come back and find it. So it's like, I don't even know if he was happy. But, no, it felt so great, kind of an out-of-the-body experience type thing and help us, you know, move on. And history repeats itself. And, I mean, he goes to Tampa the next year.

wins a Super Bowl. So I think Brady would thank me for that one. So this is, if they made sports cards now of like a rookie sports card of somebody getting in media, I'd buy yours because you took a question that he was like, is the bowl squeezy? And you shifted it and turned it to a different compelling story. He knew I was joking. I know. I didn't even feel like you were running from his dumb question. It felt like, oh, that's an interesting story.

We forgot that I would buy your rookie card, your media rookie card. You got a future. That right there. I appreciate that. You're going to Hollywood. There we go. Idol. Buy it now.

I was watching Pat Bev, who's one of my favorite athletes right now, playing with the Bucks. I was watching Pat Bev talk about going when he got called to the bucks, and he's like, yeah, you know, I've had a beef with Dame, but I've got to call him to fix that before we start playing. Yeah. When you switch teams, has there been anybody that – and I'm not even asking you who it is, but where you've got to call him and be like, yo, I know we haven't been good before, but now I'm coming on over. Let's be cool.

Or is football not as intimate as basketball, because there's only five guys on the court at once in basketball. Yeah, I don't know if it's as intimate. if there's real beefs like that. Like there's some, but I don't think it's real beefs, man. We have so much turnover in football. Like, if I go to any team, like, there's a coach that I played with, like, that's coaching the team. Or there's, like, there's, like, four players that I played with.

Or, like, so there's so many guys that I know. And even the guys that I've covered, it was all competitively. And, like, people know who I am. Like, I'm secure in who I am. So I never really went out the way where I have a lot of that kind of trolling on the field. there's a guy that's really dirty or whatever like that like that was handled in the game like if someone's not like in football you can hit people so if someone's like doing some stuff that I don't

like like I'm able to finish that that game so it doesn't even bleed into the park a lot that hasn't happened yet do you feel like with technology advancing so far we can see every position every play do you feel like the game is a little less dirty because people know that you can see everything they're doing now I think the fines are so ridiculous you think that's what it is yeah like I just saw a guy you saw the buzzer beater death the day in NBA, BAM hit a buzzer beater and the guy just punted the ball in the crowd, right? I've never seen a basketball get punting the crowd before. They find them like 25K, right? Which is, you know, that would be like a hundred thousand dollar. I mean, we throw the ball

in the crowd to like my wife, like, 5,000. Like every time we score a touchdown, just toss the ball in the crowd, 5,000. Like, why? I don't know. There's a bunch of footballs. But like, the fines are so ridiculous. Like, I never thought about I'm going to hit a guy. One, I don't like hitting the guys, like taking her knees out. Like, I don't. believe in that. And then you took away the whole helmet to helmet, whole shoulder area hitting of defenseless receivers, right? It's like, where can you hit a guy? Like, just here and here where he's most dense and you're going to take the worst end of that blow. So I'd rather take that and do that than like end a guy's career

and be dirty. So I literally am mindful of him out there like, you know, I'm not trying to lose money today too. Like I could tackle guys, but like I'm not trying to lose 40 grand hitting this guy in his helmet. So it has changed how I played because of the fines are so ridiculous. Final three questions? Yeah. So in 2016, you guys in the Super Bowl with the Falcons, and I mean, everyone thinks that it's over at the half. Like it's just out of control. What happened in that locker room that just changed that entire game? Spoiler alert. Yeah. Man, I wish I had one for you on that question. Nothing, man. It was like, I remember Brady had his head down and it was like, we couldn't have played any worse.

And it was kind of like this game we had with Sam Fran, the Lions, this postseason. We had the biggest comeback in NFC championship history, like 20 points or whatever. And nothing was really said. And we kind of just went out there like, bro, we can't play any worse. So we moms go out there and kind of let it loose

and kind of just go. And like, we're just in aggressive mode. Like we're aggressive. We're throwing the ball every play. Defensive we're calling way more of an aggressive comeback. Kind of playing like we carefree, kind of, and I think the other team gets tense. I think the other team starts clockwatching.

think they start kind of doing that end of a high school basketball game. We're just swinging around. They're not attacking. They're not run their offense anymore. So I think it's almost more what they do. They're letting their pedal off, their foot off the pedal. We're kind of just like swinging and swinging and swinging. Like nothing to lose.

We're about to get knocked out anyway. And I think the other team's mentality is really what calls them to lose the game. My teeth are all fake. When I first started to make some money, I got teeth. I bought my mom a place and I got teeth because I never went to the dentist as a kid. So these are all fake. So when I see somebody with great teeth, which you have great teeth. Yeah, Logan, you have a really nice, man.

Thank you, guys. Mine aren't real. Yeah, mine aren't either. So when did you get them and why? My motivation was I just wanted to look normal. My teeth were never bad. I always had pretty good teeth, I thought, but I was wearing invisaline because the NFL was given free invisaline out to players.

So I was wearing it, wearing it, wearing it, then I'll take the inviseline off when I'll be done. My teeth would shift right back and shift right back. And I knew one day, like, I knew the vizaline. value of like an expensive smile. So or, uh, I knew the value of a great, a great smile. So I was like, instead of me buying jewelry and chains and watches, like, I'm just going to invest in my teeth. And so that's what I did. I did that in Tennessee, um, after I got a big payday to go there. So probably like year, five, year six, I was like, man, I'm going to invest in my teeth. And I see all these guys wear all this jewelry and had all these crazy watches and cars, but their teeth look

terrible. They all are British. You should invest in your teeth. And then I're like, well, I'm going to go to Dominican and I'm going to this like these chicklets in my mouth. And I'm like bro, you're putting that in your body. Like you're going to get infection. So like you want to go cheap on your teeth, but you want to buy a $50,000 hour watch or a chain that is going to appreciate and value. It blows my mind. So I was like, now I'm going to put good stuff in my mouth.

Yeah, as I did. Literally, I was like, I'm going to do something on camera. So what's a better investment than one, trying to stay in shape and two of my teeth? But A plus, A plus teeth. Final question, what are you going to do now? Like, is there a chance you would go back and play next season? You know, build a media empire eventually. Lee? Like what's the deal? Yeah, I don't have that answer for you today. Like I think everything's up in the air.

I'm very happy with my career. I'm happy with what I've done. I'm at peace with it. If I never played again, I'm cool. Like I said, I'm secure and who I am and what I've done. So that window's closing, I feel like every year for me. And I'm cool with that. I think the media and just talking about ball, because I have a, you know, a lot of experience in it. And I'm a storyteller by nature. I think there's always a future there. So I'm definitely interested in getting that started. sooner later. Final, final question. Do you get all the free merch

that you want? Because in college you don't, we go to a lot of even big division one schools. Depending on what school they have different rules. But if you're playing with the Patriots, the Titans, the 49ers,

and are they even different? Can you just request whatever you want, close-wise? Yeah, some teams are different. So back in the day, when I say in the day, like when I first got to the NFL, I think it just transitioned to Nike.

So it was like Nike was paying guys a lot of money, like, to be a Nike athlete, a lot of shoes, a lot of Jordans, a lot of this. Now Nike runs NFL. They have a check on every uniform. So, like, they don't give that Nike merch out as much, you know? So I think certain organizations, like a good organization, like New England was giving me a lot of stuff. And, like, San Frans gives away a lot of stuff.

Some other organizations, a little more frugal with it. You got to show, you got to show some holes in your sock and get a new pair of socks. You have to buy it ever? So your helmet and your jerseys from the year, you have to buy. So if you want to keep your hair. helmet after the year it's like $500. That's like Pop Warner football, dude. Same thing.

Yeah. To wait a home. Buy a home for this show. But I mean like let's say you want like a sweatsuit. Yeah. You get one and then you got to like if you want a second one, that's trouble. Yeah. I mean, it depends.

Like I'll see some staffers with some gear we don't have. I'm like, where'd you guys get that? That's a great drop. And they're like, oh, this is just for the staff, not for the players because then everyone has to get it. So I think there's some stuff allotted. This all goes down in seniority too. Like, hey, let me get another one.

Like Super Bowl. this from a Super Bowl. I'm like, let me get another. Like, no, absolutely not. Like, we're just a Super Bowl stuff. There's only one per player. Like, Nike's not given any more anymore. So it kind of gets there. But yeah, like those jerseys we give away, those jersey swaps you see after the game, we're paying for that.

How that costs money to swap? $2.50. Payroll to duck. Payroll to duck. So everybody was like, I need to sign jersey. I got to pay for that. It's not coming for free. And there's only a certain amount of them, too.

So I'm like, guys, I don't have that many. Like, it's not an unlimited source. I was going to ask for one, but I guess nothing. I get it. Hey, for 300. He's a more businessman. For 300, he'll give you one. Logan, last, last, last question.

So are you thinking about coaching, like use sports in the future, too? Because it's funny, like, in where I live, Matt Castle, his kid plays with my kids. Yeah, and he's always there on the sidelines, not coaching. He's sometimes not even watching the game because he's just kind of like, whatever. My son's going to do whatever he's going to do. Like, how are you as a parent with sports and are you going to coach? Yeah, my name, Castle. I was like seven kids.

He drives a sprinter van. He drives a Mercedes Sprinter event every day to walk. All the kids just come out of it. With no kids, like, at work. I'm like, bro, that's weird. You drive that every day? I love the sprinter. So, like, yeah, love Matt Castle.

I do coach my kids. So I coach my son's soccer team. And I actually left the mid-season, winter season, or fall season, to go return to football. So the kids were a little upset about that. But when they saw me in Super Bowl, they were happy. But we're on three seasons now. So I've been coaching my kids. And the only reason I became a coach.

is because a parent didn't show up. The coach didn't show up the first game. So I get there. How does the coach not show up? I sign my, I sign, it's like parent, volunteer.

It's a first game, so I sign my son up, new league. They tell me he's good at soccer at school. I'm like, all right, buddy, we'll sign you up.

We go there. Juris is on the ground, you know, zero through eight or whatever. He gets a jersey that fits on. We're sitting there. We're all sitting down.

Like, the game's supposed to start and like we don't have any parent, like no coach. So they're like, hey, do one of your parents want to like volunteer and like just coach this game because we don't have it so everyone looks

at me like you look athletic why don't you coach so I'm looking around like all right I'll coach so me and my wife end up coaching the game the next week the parent our coach will show up again so I'm like now we're letting these kids down so I became the coach from that from that game on we're 24 and no we haven't lost the game in three seasons not that I'm keeping count let's go and uh we're We got one more season left coming up here in the spring season. Six or eight. The seasons are like six or eight games, played Saturday mornings. And my son might retire, you know, 30 and O this year or something.

You're not playing in the games with a record like that. He's like sneaking in, shaving his face. No, I mean, what happens is we show up with a boombox. We have good music. We have good vibes. We've run plays. My son's pretty good. His friends are on the team.

They request us. The parents can request the coach they want. So your team is 10 per team. And you have to play five at a time. So we do like hockey subs. Right. And we had 15 requests this season because every parent's requesting my team. So now I'm picking based on the kids I know in the league.

So now I have a loaded team. Yeah. No salary cap. And I had this kid. I'm limited to. I got this new kid. And I mean, it's like having, it's like having messy and Bopi on the same team right now. So now I have like we're not, we're not losing.

So now we're just, you know, my son's about to go play O'LON in the second half. You know, he's got to go back in the goal after he has. And obviously all the NIO money he can hang. Look at this. Yeah. We're starting out. My son got it on Instagram. I want to see his soccer highlights.

Hey, we appreciate you having us out. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. Thanks, Logan. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me.

Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show.

This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clivert Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream,

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So we picked our teams in the March Madness Bake a Cake Challenge. The first team to lose has to bake a cake for every other person on this show. Now that said, they don't have to come in every day with four other cakes. It's not one time you show up with all the cakes. Oh. You can do two and two. Oh, thank goodness. Yeah.

Say Sunday might be a long day. You can do two and two. Whatever the case is. The problem, I'm not sure what week our show is renewed until, but we got to have them all in by then. We got a time line. So Mike D. has picked Texas. Oh, boy.

And if your team loses first of all the teams, you lose. Now, Mike, if you do Texas, but then tomorrow, one of the other teams loses, that's the same because you guys lost in the same spot in the bracket. Got it. I thought he meant like time. I was like, Arizona plays early. No, no. So same spot in the bracket.

So Mike has picked Texas. And they play Colorado State? They play Colorado on Thursday. Colorado State. Colorado's in there too now. That's true, sure, sure. Reed has chosen Auburn. He's playing Yale on Friday.

That's a good one. I have Kentucky. They're playing the Raiders. The Raiders. Oakland. Gotcha. They're playing Oakland Thursday. Kevin has Arizona versus Long Beach State,

which we're all pulling for Long Beach Day, because that's the coach's fired. I'm not. But a little bit. Yeah, it's cool. It's cool story, yeah. And then Eddie has Shaka. Shaka Smart with Marquette.

Marquette versus 15 seed Western Kentucky on Friday. Should be a good to go. Man, that's fun. I hope. I don't want to lose, but it's hilarious if I don't lose. To me, it's hilarious if I don't lose. And you've got to bake a cake. And try to do a good job.

And you document the whole thing, right? You have to do it all. too so your wife or girlfriend or whatever the case is didn't do it. Oh, yeah, dude, easy. You say that. You want me to lose, guys. I make a good cake, a real good cake. You guys want it double-deckered or do you want to just single like a regular?

I want anybody to lose. It's not me. I don't care if it's good, if it's terrible. Either way, our audience wins. So there you go. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying.

Yep, that's me. Cliver Taylor, the first. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment. And the next, we'll talk about life, mental health.

purpose and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be.

Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. The 2026 NFL draft is here and the NFL Daily podcast has it covered from all angles. Join me, Greg Rosenthal, and Jordan Roderig after night one on Thursday. Nick Shook joins me night two Friday and then Sunday to recap everything that went down over the three days in Pittsburgh.

We'll tell you who won the draft and which players were my favorite picks. Listen to NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal on the free IHeart Radio app. Open the app, search NFL Daily, and listen now. This is Julian Edelman, host of games with names. On our latest episode, we got comedian, Blake Anderson from Workaholics and The Hilarious This Is Important Podcast. Let's go. We did beat them in improv. You had an improv against the team?

Yes. We would pull up their schools would be there with signs for us. It's competition. What you would win is a bottle of gold slager. James Fester threw it out of a van because he didn't want us drinking it. For more games with names, visit the IHeart Radio app or wherever you get your podcast. Two things I wanted to mention. financially based.

Oh. Got raises? Got my intention? No. Otani's interpreter was betting on the games. Oh, crap, dude. I mean, do you think there's more to this story? There always is more to every story.

It's will it come out and will they find it that it's important enough to dig into it because the demand is there? You know they want it to go away. But the LA Dodgers interpreter for Otani was fired on Wednesday afternoon after questions surrounding

$4.5 million bucks in wire transfers sent from Otani's bank account to a bookmaking operation which also, you know, the question would be, this is just my question, not heard this question anywhere. So they fired as interpreter. Maybe the interpreter took the fall because, you know, Otani was, what if Otani was one making the bets?

But the interpreter was like, yeah, it was me. Because it's his account. Right. But yet they did throw a quote in there. It says, Otani's never been on sports before. The guy, a long-time friend and interpreter for Otani incurred the gambling debts to a southern California bookmaking operation. And why that gets a bit hairy.

It's illegal there. There's no legal gambling in California. Didn't know that. So it's under federal investigation. And we all know this guy, right? Like we've all seen him. I mean, I think... Are the interpreter?

All-Star game? Yeah. I mean, every time he says something, he's right next to him. I thought you met the bookie. You know what I found the bookie? I'm like, godday, now we're in trouble because... Well, they were in trouble first. But now we're in more trouble because everybody knows who we are.

Yeah. I mean, that's how they ended up getting around to it. But I'm saying, now it's like a big story. So, Or, Bones, does it help them because now we know their name? So when they do legalize gambling, we'll be like, hey, where is? No, because that's not how it works. You don't legalize bookies.

You legalize places like Drive Kings that you trust and that the government regulates. Got it, got it. My dad had a bookie growing up. His name was the devil. Well, that's what they called him, the devil. Diablo? Yeah, Diablo. And what's funny about him, Bones, is that his truck, he always collect on,

he did all the bets on the weekend. He'd collect on Monday morning. and sometimes I'd be home, and his truck wouldn't go in reverse. So he would park on our yard. He couldn't go in the driveway. He would just park in our yard because I'm like, dude, use the driveway every time the devil came by. And he's like, I can't, man. My car, my truck doesn't go in reverse.

I'm like, you're on our yard because we didn't live on like a street street. Are you making enough money as the devil to buy a truck that goes in reverse? Apparently not. Maybe that was just his thing. That's wild. The devil only goes forward. He confirmed. So, Mizuhara.

I'm probably saying that wrong. That's the interpreter. Confirmed he was paid between $300,000 and $500,000 while working for the Angels. Muzahara told ESPN, his bets were placed on international soccer, the NBA, NFL, and college football. Quote, I never bet on baseball at Mizzuara.

I said, that's 100%. I knew that rule. We have a meeting about it in spring training. He went on to say, O'Tani had nothing to do with it. And if true, then they, okay. They can handle their little, you can't bet in California thing. That's our business.

But why was he using Oani's money? He had to cover for him. That's the problem. I'm like, okay, okay, fine, you gambled. You gambled on hockey, whatever. But why were using his money? What's the answer to that? Because he said that he had to cover for him,

or Tony had to cover for him. And he said, well, he could have just given him the money. What do you mean? Like, he couldn't pay his own debts. So Otani had to front the money for him, and they had to use it under his name and wire transfer. So he would lose and couldn't pay for what he bet, so Atani had to send the money.

Atoni needs a different interpreter. I'd interpret that guy's an idiot. Yeah. Here's that thing. I've never once in my life, ever, in the history of my life, as much as I'm on my phone, as much as I use my check car, my credit card, whatever the case is, I've never even been to the site. Oh, boy. I check my credit card points yesterday. I've never checked my credit card points.

Ever? Oh, if you've never checked them? I didn't even know I had them. and they don't expire. Yeah. Bro, we're going to Hawaii. We're going to do the show from Hawaii next week. Dang.

We're talking about years and years and years and years of accumulating points, not just for personal, I need my credit card, but all work stuff I do. And I looked at it. What's the number?

Well, I don't even know if the number will matter because I think probably all point systems are different, right? Yeah, but I mean, yeah, because they're already high. The number's already high. Like, I think I think I have 20,000 points.

Got it. I have 3,200,000 points. Oh my goodness. Yeah, we're going to Hawaii. If I were to cash it in, because they won't give me cash cash, but if I were to go, I'll take gift cards. Oh, you can do that? Yeah. A $30,000 gift card. That's amazing. It's a big gift card. Where we're going?

I didn't even know I had points. Yeah, yeah, I take the money, dude. forget Hawaii. Take the money. There's no money. It's a gift card. Yeah, that's money. I mean, just pay with everything with that. I want to forget about it longer. Yeah. Just keep accumulating.

I can buy something. Did it give you one gift card? Is it like $30,000? That's a good question. No, it's, you can only get $100 ones. Oh, my. Oh, my gosh. That's a lot of gift cards. Which is why I don't want to do it.

It's $100 max gift card, but you can get up to $30,000. So let's say 10 would be $1,000. Now you got to do $1,000. 30 of those, 30 times 10, is, I need $3,000. $3,000. I got that, $3,000. And I don't want $3,000 gift cards. Yeah, you don't want that.

Let's just go to Hawaii. I've never once checked my freaking balance, and I happen to go, because I asked my business manager who like pays Eddie, like when he does a show, I don't pay Eddie. It goes to an account and she pays there all of us. I was like, hey, do I have any, do I have any points or anything like that? And she was like, yeah, in your credit card. And I was like, oh, my God. She goes, I said, do they expire?

She goes, not usually. I said, can you give me that log in? I logged in. And I saw the number. And I was like, I wonder what about $3 million gets you. I thought, you know, like you have a bunch of tickets over Dave and Busters. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, get you a nice toy guitar or something. Yeah, yeah. You go to the little shop, the store there. And that's what it was. It's a $30,000. Wow, man. So that's a pretty good spot. Congrats, man.

Yeah, dude. Hey, it's cool to be you, dude. It's not, I mean, I had to spend that money to get that money. It's not like I got it given to me. Right, right, right, right. All right, we're done. Right, right, right. We're done.

We're out of here. Thank you. Go, go. I got to go, dude. Live your life. Got your basketball. Go. Blow the whistle.

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