The Bobby Bones Show - 25W: A Very Drunk 3 Minutes from the Weekend + Brandon Marcello On Rule Changes Needed in NCAAF
Episode Date: November 25, 2024A wild weekend of college and NFL football was capped off by a very drunk 3 minute span during NFL Redzones 'Witching Hour'. Plus, our weekly college football expert, Brandon Marcello joins Bobby to t...alk about the SEC having a disappointing weekend, which rule changes need to be put in place, and more! Download the DraftKings Sportsbook App today: https://dkng.co/bobbysports If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/MI/NJ/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/NH), 888-789-7777/visit http://ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 1-877-770-STOP (7867) (LA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), call/text TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA). 21+ (18+ WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/LA/MI/NJ/ NY/PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. N/A in NH/OR/ON. New customers only. Valid 1 per new customer. Min. $5 deposit. Min $5 wager. $200 issued as eight (8) $25 free bets. Ends 9/19/22. See http://draftkings.com/sportsbook for details. Follow the Show: @BobbyBonesSports Follow the Crew: @MrBobbyBones @ProducerEddie @KickoffKevin @MikeDeestro @ReidYarberrySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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this weekend, but I lost everything I bet. I made two bets. I bet our parlay, which we somehow
missed all four. Oh, my God. We do that. Which somehow miss all four, which is brutal.
It's harder to do. Yeah. It's almost like a win.
that's hard to do is winning.
I know.
They should give us to win.
We can go over that a minute.
So I bet that I didn't put much on it
because I don't have much faith in it.
I bet like 50 bucks and missed that.
And then I bet $500 on Indiana plus 12.
And then I, listen, I was a little bullish
after that first drive.
I was like, God, let's go.
Yeah, it ended up not being very good.
So lost about $550 this weekend.
Not a bad loss weekend,
but not a good.
good one.
No.
Especially since you really didn't have a lot of skin in the whole weekend.
And I didn't bet anything NFL.
Really?
Nothing?
Why not?
You just weren't feeling it?
I feel like there were a lot of tempting lines out there because like the spreads were wide.
And I'm like, I don't know.
I felt like, okay, everyone's going to cover the spread here because the matchups are weird.
But no, that wasn't the case.
Tempting lines, no, to me, I know that I shouldn't bet tempting lines.
I fall from all the time.
Like if I'm only tempted by the line and not really by the game, I tend to not jump.
in because I realize I am not as smart as the people that are making the lines.
So most of the time, that's the case.
Yeah, I just didn't really, I watched a lot.
I'll say this, and I'll start with this, you know, if you have Sunday ticket and he goes,
it's the witching hour.
And when he's like, when losses become wins and when's become, mostly that's when I lose
like fantasy football.
It's not even about bets.
That's mostly when like the players I'm down score all the touchdowns and I ended up losing.
So it's like it's the, and there were a bunch of buys this week.
Yeah.
So they go, it's the witching hour.
And it wasn't even that crazy until it went absolutely off the rails, like the last three minutes, all at once.
Yes.
Like all around every game, it was like, holy crap.
So much where Red Zone couldn't go back and forth to everyone.
There was some delayed.
Like, we'll get to that in a second.
This is crazy right now.
Yeah, it was bizarre.
And we'll talk all the bizarreness of college football coming up with Brandon Marcello because what a bizarre weekend for college football.
But that was like all day.
again macro college football you're drunk go home
NFL football
hey you're having a pretty healthy night at the bar
you're not drinking too much good for you because in the past you've had your
oh god no and you got drunk at the very end couple shots later
yeah it was knock up on you hard core okay then NFL wise
let's start with the we must with the cow and not even that the game
matter for the cowboys dude I went from like I'm not really going to watch this
I have to watch this game.
WTF. First of all, I didn't watch the game either.
I did. I kept it on the
four box. And then I didn't go back to it.
And has its own dedicated channel because the Cowboys
are always featured for the most part as like
the game. Yes. And so I'm like,
I don't care because
my Cowboys future to win the Super Bowl,
the Eddie told me to bet is not going to win.
That's dead. Throw that away.
It's dead. Dack, who was on my fantasy team, is not
going to play. No, he's not playing. So every
interest that I have is gone.
And it's ugly. And you're
not like a fan fan.
Not right, but I'm not.
So I'm like not going to dedicate any of my attention or emotional intelligence to that game.
Well, they start playing and winning.
And I'm like, what is happening here?
And then I think, oh yeah, well, the commanders, they have to eventually suck again.
They're the commanders.
As I've declared on this show, they, as soon as they're reminded of the other commanders, they start sucking again.
And so that's what happens, right?
And I'm like, well, this game's over, games over, blah, blah, blah.
all the Cowboys have to do is stop that
is stop the one play.
No problem. Just stop it. No big deal.
Nope. They score on it.
Dude, not only.
I mean, it was McClaren.
It was Terry McLark. It's right in the,
it's a man. Okay, so the,
probably like a nickel package.
Sure.
Over the first guy,
who's a defensive back plan linebacker,
which is what the nickel's all about.
Okay, make the tackle.
You play, your safety, just make the tackle.
Dude, they've struggled with that all year.
Safeties cannot make the tackles.
Okay.
And they were yesterday until that play.
Standing his way.
80 yards.
Something.
Something.
Something.
80 yards.
So unbelievable.
I'm like, oh my God.
It was Janice from friends.
Oh my God.
I couldn't believe.
But at the same time, I'm like, it's the Cowboys.
Of course they're going to lose this.
And then I'm like, maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe the commanders don't even understand that they're the commanders anymore.
Maybe it's been so long.
They forgot they're supposed to suck.
So, all right.
Well, let's get missed the extra point.
Extra point.
Bad snap.
Bad snap, not the butt got it up in time, but bad snap.
Oh my God.
Did you see him fall?
He kicked it, looked up, was like, ugh.
He just, like, he acted like his face.
He was like, oh, God, I missed the stupid extra point.
And what was unfortunate for him was after he got back up and he turned,
he turned to give the camera angle the greatest angle right into his face and his face mask and his eyes.
And, like, that shot.
Wide, wide eyes.
It was like he found the camera.
It was like he's on the office.
And he looked at the camera sometimes it.
Jim's like, oh, boy.
It was like, he found it.
It was like, oh, my God.
So, okay.
It's not over.
So, okay, ballgame.
It's not over.
Hey, ballgame, that's it.
At one point.
That no problem.
Ball game.
Okay, well, we're just going to kick an outside kick.
All you got to just fall on it.
Yep.
And I'm not saying I would have done any different.
Which, by the way, we know, I'm talking about the kickoff return.
Oh, that's right.
That's right.
That's right.
Which, by the way, that's not even the craziest part!
That happened too.
That was like the sickest spin move that was four yards away from me.
And he bobbled it in the beginning.
It's on the ground.
He slowly picks it up.
Looks around.
Huh, what are I'm going to do?
Spins.
The guy's not even on him.
Spins still the juke's the guy out from three yards away.
Gone.
Okay.
We had to go back in time for that one.
We did.
We forgot about that.
Because things got crazier since then.
So then, on-side kick.
All you have to do is jump on it.
Conny.
I'm not.
I'm not better than him, though.
I would have run it back.
All you have to do is fall on it.
Did you see him holding the ball after the touchdown?
He wasn't letting it go.
He was like, this is my ball.
He blacked out.
I would have to say, like, oh, God, and then you run.
And I would have to run.
But okay, now it's only an eight-point game.
Now they have a shot again.
You gave them time.
And you know what?
They've done it before.
And they had a shot again.
Jane Daniel's about the third time he did his little wrap-around,
wrap around.
I was like, oh, my God.
Here we go.
And then finally.
Yes, it was end.
What a crazy end.
And I remember, like, just kind of when they took that one-point lead and, like, I don't know, third quarters, I'm like, oh, my gosh, we're going to win this stupid game.
Cowboys can't.
We're going to win this stupid game.
It was 10 to 9 going into the fourth quarter.
Yeah.
It was 10 to 3 for a while.
Did they score, did they kick?
Yeah, they scored six in the third commanders.
Was it two kick?
Were they all field goals?
Field goals, yeah.
Because when I, it was 10 to 3 and I was like, games over.
Because it was going into.
It was so boring.
Was it 10 to zero for a while?
Because at some point, I just thought, oh, the Cowboys are going to win.
So let me flip it back over to see how they lose.
Like, that's why I went back to that game.
Oh, they missed an extra point, actually.
That's what it was.
Because I didn't see.
Okay, okay.
Oh, they missed two.
Oh, my God.
The first one was blocked, and then they, yeah.
And the Cowboys had a block field goal in the first quarter, I believe, right?
And I was like, oh, it's going to be a long day for Eddie.
I thought of you, dude.
I wasn't in.
I wasn't in on that.
I was smoking a brisket, man.
I wasn't worried about it until, like, we're going to win this game.
What?
And we want it.
And now we have the Giants, which we can probably win that game.
And then we have, I think, the Bengals.
All right.
We could win that game.
The Bengals are thinking God they have you guys.
But then we're not.
Yeah, it's over.
Then you got the Panthers.
No, we have to win the Panthers.
We could win that game for risky Panthers.
Yes.
The Baker press conference was hilarious talking about, because they go on.
The bucks kill the Giants and the Giants suck.
And so Baker does the Tommy DeVito and the end zone double.
Give me money.
Yeah.
So Baker...
I think it's Italian thing.
No, he does Italian thing.
Baker does money.
Oh, he's not doing the...
Give me my money.
He's doing like a guitar like, mama me.
Yeah.
And so he's doing that and they're like,
hey, so why...
And he goes, you mean when I was...
How did Baker say it?
It was like paying tribute to Tommy?
Paying tribute.
It was the greatest way to handle the press conference.
And he goes, oh yeah, I know everybody loves him here.
So we're paying tribute.
And they're like,
are you a bit Italian?
And he goes, well, I mean, I haven't chart
my 23 of me.
I mean, he just...
That's amazing.
They were like going at him
and he was just there and just like,
so funny.
They killed him, bucks won.
Great job.
Dauphins.
Crush the Patriots.
It's all good.
You see that Drake made touchdown
on though?
Dawson Hooper 50 yard
across his body.
Ooh, it was beautiful.
Maybe on Red Zone
and showed up.
I don't watch that game at all.
Missed it, man.
Lions were Wisconsin.
Your loss.
Biking and Bears
was a pretty interesting one there
at the only.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
With the bears coming back.
Caleb Williams looked pretty good.
Yeah.
You know, took a bad, bad sack there at the end.
Yeah.
I mean, the bad sack.
But yeah, the Vikings win again.
Look at that.
They're now nine and two.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
Because this is what happened.
For those that have been living in a cave or if you have been in a coma.
So the Vikings started off really hot.
And you're like, wow, look at Sam Darnel.
He's back.
And then the Vikings lost a couple games.
And then the couple they won, they didn't really win.
like Vikings are over
and then you look at the record
like nine and two
god dang
like they're here
Chiefs and Panthers
good game
was that close
it's a close game
I kept checking the score
I'm like wow
it was a close game
my home drove down
the field to win it
with the field goal at the end
Bryce Young let's go
Bryce Young look good
I'm big Bryce Young guy
Yeah man I didn't watch it
but I watched the highlights
and they did them dirty
there wasn't one Carolina
Panthers highlight
in that like 25 minute highlight
real 25 minute highlight
Yeah you know you do a game recap
Oh yeah
And you can watch all, like, the major plays.
They showed you 25 minutes of highlights.
All chiefs.
Like, not one Carolina Panthers highlight.
I'm like, that's dirty dog.
Titans, Texans.
I mean, listen, Will Levis didn't look terrible.
And again, I was only putting it on there occasionally.
And I think Will Levis is terrible.
He had his usual pick six.
Dude, he still doesn't.
He didn't even see the guy.
I was on the game live when I saw that.
Was it a linebacker?
Or like a defensive.
It was like in the middle of the field.
Dude, he threw it right to him.
I didn't even see that.
Yeah.
And I was like, uh-huh.
He's back.
There he sucks again.
But they ended up winning.
There he is.
My guy.
Bowenex play good.
They beat the Raiders.
Raiders suck.
You saw where he had broken collarbone for.
Gardner.
Gardner Mitch.
Yeah.
Their season's over, I guess.
That just like hurts.
It's just like annoying hurts.
Yeah.
I mean, just even me, like, even if you hit your collarbone like this, that hurts.
It does hurt.
A broken collarbone feel like they have a sock.
Like, I broke with pelvis.
That would suck, dude.
So who's their backup?
McConnell?
Yeah, well, he's been the starter too.
O'Connell.
Yeah, Edon O'Connell's been their starter.
Because that's his last thing.
Yeah, that's my cousin.
Come on.
No Brock parties.
The Packers won easily.
I think I'm pretty good.
Going through the games.
Yeah, I mean, it's fine.
It got a little crazy there at the end of that first round.
Yeah, the midday, the witching hour was great.
The witching three minutes.
Yeah.
It was crazy.
I'd say that Thursday night game was actually pretty cool in the snow, too.
I love snow games.
That was pretty sweet.
Did you see the clip that they did.
did and they were like it looks like a movie and it was James Winston's dive in the end zone
it was an awesome clip yeah yeah it was like snowing the NFL films yeah did you see the clip of
him trying to get them to jump off sides and he's actually yelling like he's like come on
yeah I love that such a jamis move yeah he was so excited to play in that snow too yeah he's a kid
in many ways yeah but also he was like a straight A student you ever see like the story of James
straight A student like you'd get trouble for anything below an A minus like brilliant kid
Yeah. Okay, okay, okay, okay. So there's that, because I wrote down Wiching Hour, aka three minutes.
That's my favorite. Checked off my list. I'm checking off my list. College Football Wild.
We'll talk with Brandon Marcella about that, but it was just, it was just a bizarre, bizarre day.
And I didn't plan to dedicate as much time to the games as I did because there weren't a lot of really great games.
I had set aside to what the big noon kickoff on Fox is the worst thing to ever happen to the Big Ten.
because they've put their biggest game at the worst time
every week
it's awful
they call it big noon but it's 11 for us
right you bet eastern everything's
yeah yeah just throws me off because we're not
noon and then mountain time is
they're way off
imagine Hawaii
it's just bad I hate that for them
because they've had two really big games this year
that have had to happen at noon because that's when Fox has the
game to air it's a TV thing
Indiana went down
drove first drive I was like
this is going to be fun.
And then it started raining.
There's some special teams, bit bops, and that's what got them.
Yeah.
And then also Ohio State is bigger, faster, stronger.
Indiana was going to have to play perfect.
But, man, they played so good at the beginning of the game.
Was that Kanye?
What?
Bigger, faster, stronger.
But we'll get another college football stuff coming up in a little bit.
I do want to go over to our Jets guy.
And not so much about the Jets as a time.
as a team, but
I've pulled this up.
It appears increasingly likely
that the Jets will place Aaron Rogers on IR
or bench him over the next few weeks.
It's also possible. The Jets could simply cut him.
Roger still wants to play in 2025,
just not for the Jets. Let's go first
with you and the Aaron Rogers
as a whole experiment.
Utter failure, disappointment.
I mean, he basically came in here and just
dropped a stick of dynamite. It exploded.
Now he's just like, I'm going to get out of here.
I don't feel like being here anymore.
Do you blame him?
or is it organizational?
I mean, it's organizational.
It's definitely Woody.
But I mean, it's, he definitely had a say in a lot of things.
But the whole thing was, I mean, Joe Douglas was 30 and 64 as a GM.
I mean, it just clearly he just.
And I don't want to, like, because I also feel like, you know,
Douglas and Sala during this whole thing have kind of gotten like a sympathy kind of card for them.
Salah, big time.
Yeah, but I mean, like he was 20 and 36.
I mean, the team sucked with him.
I think Sala ends up getting.
Not next year, but if he goes somewhere and he's a good defensive coordinator next year.
Because right now he's just like filling in.
He's like a Packer buddy.
Yeah, yeah.
I think he gets another good job.
Yeah.
I just, I blame Douglas a lot too for this whole thing.
I just feel like, you know, everyone's like, oh, Joe Douglas, he drafted Soft Gardner.
And Gary Wilson, it's like, but you're supposed to do that when you have the
soft gardener?
Soft Gardner.
Yeah.
That's funny.
That's rude.
Soft Gardner, baby.
Dang.
Yeah.
He must be on like the message boards like intern.
He never called him.
He's on Reddit.
He's on his own, like, Jet Sub.
That's what the New York media is calling him, Soft Garner.
Hey, that kind of sucks around.
That changes quickly.
Hey, man.
It's hard to call anybody on the Jets sucky when the whole organization sucks.
I know, but he's had some pretty spectacular mistackles, I would say.
He made business decisions.
Yeah, I guess so.
Yeah.
Yeah, so I'm sorry, dude.
It's all right.
I don't know.
I mean, I'm kind of used to at this point.
I'm just numb to it.
I completely feel you.
I'm just numb to it.
I think Aaron Roger is a product of his environment, though.
But who's going to pick him up, though?
That's the thing that kind of cracks me up
is like he wants to play again.
Yeah, he has a house here.
Yeah, he likes Nashville.
That'll work.
He has a house.
I mean, I know literally where he's building near my house.
Just chill with Will Levis and eat some mayonnaise or whatever.
The answer is not Levis, right?
No.
He does look good in a uniform, though.
Yeah.
Levis?
Yeah.
Levis.
Yeah.
I saw that, did you see Daniel Jones's head on Will Levis's body?
Because Daniel Jones might come on Titan or whatever.
And I was like, dang, Daniel Jones is Jack.
And I realized it was Will Levis.
Interesting.
The Browns.
Stefanski loves a guy
that can just sit back there and chunk.
But James is so good with all these quotes and stuff like that.
James is not the start in the next year.
We know that.
James is awesome.
I can't wait for him to be on TV.
Or to be a coach.
He needs to be a TV.
Or coach, yeah.
He's a super cerebral guy.
Like, he's a really smart.
I mean, he can coach.
He'll better for Devante Adams, too, right?
I mean, all this, like, you know.
Well, what's going to be good for Devantes
is he'll get to go wherever he wants next year.
Yeah.
So I think the play for him was to
get out of the Raiders.
And best case scenario, they go win with the Jets.
Worst case is he can go wherever he wants next year.
You think he goes wherever Aaron goes?
No, I don't.
I do not.
He's a chance of quarterbacks.
I don't feel like that.
I think if anything, this is a way to get him out of the Raiders as much as it was to get him to Aaron Rogers.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think I don't want to have to go through the will he retire.
Won't he retire?
Sogit that's going to happen.
Yeah.
That he loves to do.
He's going to drag that out.
I just wish I wish people wouldn't talk about it, but we will.
He's turned into, I don't know, four months ago, I rooted for him.
I can't stand him now.
I've never had such a flip on a character.
Like, I flipped hard on him.
He just seems like the biggest douchebag.
You know, I think my turning point was with Mike Williams.
Yeah.
When, okay, Mike Williams runs the wrong route.
Yeah.
Dude, you're Aaron Rogers.
You lost anyway.
Yeah.
It wasn't like that was the only thing that kept you from winning.
That was basically a hell Mary anyway.
And you want to throw it on him, you're a douchebag.
Yeah, he just doesn't want to get hit anymore.
It's just little short passes.
There's no like Aaron Rogers magic anymore.
You get what?
No, I want to get hit.
He's old, man.
Yeah, but I don't like it that he's in a press conference, putting it on him when that's not the reason the game was lost.
And also, you're praying to God on that play anyway.
Yeah.
Okay.
We lost all our parlay.
So stupid.
But we couldn't do it again.
We couldn't try to lose it.
No, we won't.
We literally couldn't try to lose it.
Makes no sense.
That was bad.
Here's our recap
And I do think people were avoiding our bet too
Because they just, Sam Houston State is not something you bet on
And so we did make the top of Drive Kings again
Only to embarrass ourselves, holy
San Houston State plus five and a half lost
Whose bet was that?
It was not me for sure
No, that was that was really
Georgia minus 42
That was never, never going to cover
What do you mean? I missed it by five points
Did you watch the game at all?
Yes, and I was like, come on
UMass, how are you scoring two touchdowns?
Early on, I was like, there's no way. Even halftime, I was like,
there's no way to recover. When UMass scored early,
I'm like, yeah, we're not going to cover that. It's like, 3821
and I saw, I was like, oh, no.
It scored 21 on Georgia, right?
They scored 21? Yeah, I thought it was
38, 21 at one point, yeah.
Gosh. Who, I don't, because I would have
missed on both of these, and I could have bet both of them. Which one did you
have? I had Colorado.
Okay. Colorado minus two and a half.
They lost the game.
They got smoke, I mean, it was
close in the first half, but they got beat up pretty good.
You got a little intense at one point.
Yeah, they were kind of
annoying to watch too, Colorado.
They just look privileged in that game.
Yeah.
Did Shador shove a ref or something?
Shub the refs?
Shove, wouldn't be the term I would use, but yes, pushed.
Okay.
Like push out of the way?
Because I saw the clip, but I didn't see that.
In a way that could have easily been,
okay, remember when Kirby Smart pushed the player
who came on the sideline and got,
and you're like, okay, he was obviously confused
to who that was and when it was.
That's what it felt like to me.
Like, you can't do that.
But you remember...
Heat of the moment kind of thing.
Yeah, I don't think it was...
He didn't, like, seek out for the ref and push him.
But also, you can't do that.
And I didn't like Kirby Smart
grabbing the player.
I remember what game that was, like four weeks ago.
Yeah. But again, you go,
that totally did not mean to happen.
Yeah, that was about...
And then Alabama minus 13 and a half.
You just got smoked.
That had to be the biggest surprise of the weekend.
It got smoked.
Because Oklahoma's not very good.
And I'm going to say this.
Not that they were going to win the game.
They got...
I've not seen a blatant robbery of...
a touchdown being taken back.
Like, that was the worst
miss call I've ever seen to where even the announcers
and replay are like, we don't see how this was missed.
Yeah. He was on the line.
The other guys went on the line.
He, the ref that threw it was on the
sideline after the touchdown was caught.
Yeah. You call
that right off the line.
Yeah.
As it hit his hands, he was throwing the flag.
That seemed shady as crap.
Yeah.
But mostly I would think if it were shady, it were going to be
make Alabama win, not keep Alabama from losing.
But that was, and they never came back and explained why there could have been a mess up,
even an accident.
It was just like, well, that was wrong and stupid.
Anyway, let's keep going on the game.
But it would have been a two touchdown game.
I think, listen, I don't think it kept them from winning the game, but I do think it kept
them from having a shot to win the game.
That's bad.
Yeah.
And it's a great catch.
Unbelievable play.
Kept put his foot.
Yeah.
That's terrible.
That's terrible.
I was pissed.
I'm not even a Bama fan.
Yeah, and I was watching my wife, she's an OU fan.
And, you know, and I was rooting for OU for the most part,
but I was like rooting for Alabama if they did win to win the whole thing.
And you have a parlay going.
No, we already lost by then.
Yeah, we were down.
Yeah, and I didn't bet the game straight up, so I had no interest there.
I was running for OU more than I was rooting for Bama,
but I got really irritated for Bama because that was just,
that wasn't like a holding call.
No.
That you just see from a bad angle.
I just did not understand.
because they never even came back to make me understand.
And then when they showed it over and over again,
they were like, yeah, there's no way.
Yeah.
And then they showed the guy who threw the flag.
He doesn't need to throw that flag and the timing of him throwing the flag.
They had to have the camera like furthest away from the field to find the flag.
Yeah.
Like what?
It was like the lowest one right underneath the camera.
Terrible.
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Hey Brandon, where do we start?
Because I don't know.
Is this a wild weekend, man?
It's like Ole Miss, Alabama, Indiana.
What do you want to do?
Hey, dealer's choice, Brandon?
I would just say the SEC like fall and fly on its face.
You got three ranked teams all hit the road and they lose.
And it's opened the door, I think, for the ACC now to get two teams in instead of one.
And it's knocked, I think, Alabama out of playoff race, definitely Ole Miss out of playoff race.
But because of other moves being made around those top 12 or whatever you want to say,
I still think there's a slight path for the SEC to get four teams in the playoff,
but it's looking more and more like it's going to just be three,
and the Big Ten is going to lead the way with four teams.
So the SEC in their biggest moment, their biggest weekend,
to prove itself worthy of getting a lot of teams in the playoff,
just fell with a big loud thud this week.
Then in your mind, did the SEC's depth as a conference bite it in the butt,
or is the SEC overrated?
I think the SEC is a little overrated this year.
I do think it's the deepest conference among the Big Ten and the SEC,
but the problem is that the Big Ten up top is much better than the SEC.
And so that's why you're not seeing a lot of big 10 teams in the top half losing on the road this year.
Whereas with the SEC, they're not as good up top as the Big Ten.
And so when they go on the road, they're losing.
And you'll hear all week, you know, I hate politics.
But this week and next week, you're going to hear a lot of politicking from all the conferences,
but especially the SEC in the media about why they're the best conference in America,
why they're so deep and why they deserve to have four teams in the playoff,
even if the metrics and some of the numbers that the playoff committee utilizes
will show differently.
But you're going to hear that a lot.
You're going to hear a lot from Greg Segey, the commissioner, and the SEC media
about, well, the SEC's real deep.
And only two teams in the SEC have a winning record on the road this year within the conference.
And that's because the conference is just so darn good.
yes it's very very good
but the top half of the SEC
is just not as good
as the top half of the Big Ten
let's sit in the SEC then for a minute
before we go around and
so Georgia is going to make it
Texas is going to make it
looks like Tennessee should make it
because they're not going to have to play in the
SC championship game so there's three
Texas A&M still could make it
if they beat Texas and they win the
SC championship against Georgia
so there's possibly a fourth
is that the possible fourth to you
or is Bama or is there any chance in the world?
South Carolina somehow backs into this thing.
I think that's very possible.
We don't know what the playoff committee rankings are yet this week,
but I would say based off of recent success and also the metrics,
that South Carolina would edge out Alabama for a potential fourth spot
if the SEC was in position to do so.
But it also depends, of course, on what happens within the SEC
and then elsewhere.
The best thing that could have from South Carolina
is for Texas to win this week against A&M
and then to win the SEC championship game,
which would help them potentially.
But South Carolina, when you look at their recent resume,
they've won, if they win this week against Clemson on the road,
they will have won four straight games against top 25 opponents.
And they've got close losses on the road at Alabama
and a course at home much earlier in the season against LSU.
And I know head-to-head is a big thing,
but Alabama and South Carolina are not the same teams they were
when they met in mid-October.
South Carolina has completely turned a corner and has gotten better since then.
Alabama has gotten worse since then, as evidence,
by them losing 24 to 3 this week on the road at Oklahoma.
So I would say if there's a fourth team,
and if we're talking about Alabama or South Carolina,
you've got to give the edge to South Carolina, in my opinion.
Do you think the committee factors in, though, that the team is not the same team as it was when it is a head-to-head, even though it was earlier in the year?
They say they do, and they say they will, we'll see.
And listen, based off of even last year, they do, because that's the reason why they left Florida State out of the playoff last year.
They said Florida State was not the same team because they didn't have quarterback Jordan Travis who was injured in the last two weeks of the season.
So South Carolina, which have been struggling with some injuries themselves,
especially a quarterback of the North Sellers, is healthier now,
and they're playing much better now, and they're on a role.
So judged off that, they should.
And you've got to consider you've got to weigh more heavily the recent success of a team
compared to what they were doing in the first few weeks of the season.
That just makes sense.
For example, look at the men's basketball tournament.
The committee weighs big time what you do in the last 10 to 12 games of a season more so than they do in the first half of the schedule.
And with college football, I think you definitely have to take that in the consideration.
Plus, in addition to that the injuries that South Carolina were dealing with earlier in the year.
So let's say Texas, we'll hypothetical this thing because again, I just want to use precedent, semi-precedent,
because again, we weren't a 12 team until this year.
But semi-precedented here.
let's say Quinn Ewers, who has to get an MRI, which I saw yesterday, he may not play.
Let's say they lose to Texas A&M.
Texas A&M goes to championship game.
Therefore, Texas has a couple losses.
They're down their starting quarterback.
Jordan Travis, we saw last year at Florida State.
However, I think the big difference would be Texas has played their backup quarterback
and had success.
So do you think the committee would penalize them for losing their starting quarterback
if viewers can't play, even though their backup quarterback has played a significant amount of time
and his last name is Manning?
I think the penalty for them would be more so just losing the A&M no matter who the quarterback is.
And also because their resume right now doesn't include a big win.
It doesn't include a top 25 win on that schedule.
You know, their biggest win so far really has been at Vanderbilt.
And Vanderbilt's not ranked right now.
And they just lost again to LSU on the road.
Texas doesn't have a great quality win.
What's helped them is, one, their brand, and number two, they've, when they've won games,
they've mostly won so going away.
Heading into this past week, they were tied with Oregon for number one among teams that
have won games by 19 points or more this season.
They've kind of been like a boring team.
They just kind of bludgeon everybody.
But then in the big moments when they have an opportunity to get that big resume win,
for example, when Georgia came to town, they got their brains beaten.
They were beaten by double digits.
in a game that wasn't even really that close by 30 to 15 margin,
and they don't have that big win.
This is their opportunity this week to get that big win.
And if they were to win this week,
maybe that obviously keeps them in the playoff.
And they would be in the playoff because they would go to the SEC championship game.
Even if they lost, they would still get in.
But I would argue that you lose a Texas A&M,
you should be out because of your resume.
And I'm going to use that to pivot over the Big Ten
because there are a lot of similarities.
The parallels between Texas and Indiana,
wild. Like the one game they played where they had to play somebody, which Texas was Georgia.
Indiana was Ohio State. They got whoop. Pretty bad. So, and let's go over to the Big Ten
and let's talk about that first drive, I was like, oh, Indiana came to play. Like, game on. I called
a buddy. I was like, let's go. Signet. And then special teams ended up being kind of the first
thread that was pulled. And then it was just a talent difference. Your thoughts after watching
Indiana, Ohio State, and what should happen with Indiana?
Yeah, I've still got Indiana safely in the playoff.
As long as they beat Purdue this week, they should get in,
just because of the other chaos that happened with those three other SEC teams
that are contention losing this week.
You know, it hurt them because they gifted 14 points to Ohio State through special teams.
Punt returned for a touchdown, and of course, that bad snap that was muffed by the
punter that Ohio State was able to recover and then score on a short field.
Gifting Ohio State 14 points is terrible.
Doing so when you're on the road at Ohio State,
it's next to the impossible to come back from that.
I think the big thing to take away from this game, though,
is that Indiana couldn't do anything offensively after that first drive.
The first drive was a 70-yard drive for a touchdown.
They go up 7-0.
And then the next 10 drives, the rest of the game,
they only have 81 yards on 10 drives, 10 possessions.
Very, very bad.
Ohio State's got one of the best defenses in the country.
I would argue maybe top two, maybe it is the best one in the country.
But Indiana's offense is no slouch.
They've been in the top five for most of the season and have done stellar job there,
Curtis Rourke at quarterback Elijah Serrat, who's been incredible at receiver,
and they completely shut them down.
It just hurts because you gift them 14 points,
and then Ohio State instead of kneeling a ball, they're late in the game.
They score another touchdown to make it a 23-point,
win. So you're talking, I know we're playing hypotheticals and subtracting math and all this,
but you're talking about maybe a one possession loss for Indiana on any other day, despite your
offense struggling and only putting up 151 yards in that game. And the reason for that is because
Indiana's defense actually did a pretty good job in that game. They held Ohio State for under 300
yards all the way up until that final drive. They did enough to win that game defensively,
also forced two turnovers, a pick, and then also a turnover on downs there in the first half.
It's just that the offense was their undoing.
Yes, just a little bit of carnage.
And maybe none in the Big Ten, especially if Indiana makes it.
We almost saw Penn State lose, but we did not see Penn State to lose.
That game was probably a little closer than many one expected,
but they won't be penalized for losing that game at all, right?
Like, they're in.
Penn State's absolutely in.
And Penn State, I think, has done very well on the road this year.
You know, you're talking about the SEC team struggling on the road.
Penn State's done very well.
They've got really three impressive road victories to me.
USC, Wisconsin, and in this past week against Minnesota, you know, against Minnesota, it was a 26 to 25 game.
It ended up being the final.
But Penn State faced a fourth and one, I think, on their own side of the field in Minnesota territory in the final minutes.
And they faked a punt, and they got it, a big gain.
And then on that same drive, they had to pick up another fourth and one, and they did so through the air.
to keep the drive alive and then they were able to kneel the ball.
So they were able to convert two big fourth downs on the road at Minnesota
in a one-point game to seal the win.
It was a very good job, I think, by James Franklin and Coe to get that done
because James Franklin, as we all know,
is a very conservative coach when it comes to just calling plays
and making decisions, wants to punt to win.
But he went for it there at Minnesota,
and it proved huge because they were able to kneel out the clock.
If they gave the ball back to Minnesota,
they may very well have lost that game and been out of the playoff hunt.
We go to Big 12.
I thought my brain was going to explode because I just watched the second half,
just in general, like that was just a wild day for that conference,
even more so than the SEC, I think.
But I was watching the Arizona State BYU game.
That last series, the last two series, like I was like,
what is, until the Cowboys the next day,
I didn't have a final two minutes where my mind was like,
holy crap, because you saw the strategy of,
with Arizona State basically trying to run the clock out,
them running backward, right?
20-yard loss, 20-yard loss.
Then we're just going to chunk it as high and as far as we can
and let the time expire except there's one second.
And then the fans storm the field.
That has got to be so difficult to get all those fans off the field.
And we've seen that like three times this year
where fans stormed the field a bit early.
Then BYU catches the hell Mary,
but on the two-yard line.
It was the craziest game that ended up being exactly what we thought it was going to be.
just it took like six extra minutes for it to get wild and crazy.
Now for me, to ask you, because that's just how my mind was running during it,
the actual macro version of this is BYU lost again.
Arizona State won again.
I believe Arizona State, if all goes, well, if they beat Arizona, we'll play in the Big 12 championship.
Is Arizona State good?
Oh, yeah, very much so.
I've had them like just behind Colorado is the top team in the Big 12,
and then Colorado obviously lost on the road against Kansas this week.
So Arizona State to me is the best team in the Big 12 right now.
And there are, talking about confusing, there are 256 scenarios for who is going to meet in the Big 12 championship game.
And we've got one week remaining and that's it.
256 scenarios.
Nine teams still alive somehow mathematically to get into the Big 12 championship game.
But the two teams that have the best opportunities and the best pathway through all those scenarios is Arizona State and Iowa.
State. Arizona State's playing better than anybody else in the Big 12 right now. They're knocking
off the big dogs right now as well. And despite all that craziness at the end, Arizona State
really kind of dominated that game. They got up 21 to nothing in the first half. Cam Scadabo,
their incredible running back scored three touchdowns during that time, autographed the ball in
the end zone and got flagged for it, which was funny after a touchdown. But Arizona State's
legit. Kenny Dillingham has done a hell of a job there. This is only his second year. And
Going into this past week, I thought it was really between him and Dion Sanders,
really for maybe national coach of the year or at least Big 12 coach of the year.
And I think Dillingham just eeked out Dion this past week.
But again, that could change here in the last game of the regular season
because Colorado is still alive in the Big 12 title hunt as well as Arizona State.
A wild weekend coming up in the Big 12.
Again, 256 scenarios.
It's incredible.
They need to figure this all out.
by the way, Bobby.
We got rid of divisions in a lot of these conferences,
and it's just made things so much more complex
in these tiebreaker scenarios.
It's ridiculous.
I mean, just last week,
Oregon, after winning their game on a Saturday,
had clinched a Big Ten championship spot,
but the Big Ten said, wait a second, no, they haven't.
It took them 72 hours until that next Tuesday to figure out,
oh, yeah, because of the Tenths,
breaker scenarios we have. Oregon did actually clinch a spot after we said maybe they hadn't.
And they announced it on a Tuesday afternoon. We never seen that before. They need to figure something
out here because we can't do this every single year. I know it prompts interest, which draws eyes,
draws viewers and draws readers and everything and all the mediums, but it's way too confusing.
Why does college football, why does college sports, for that matter, always have to take the most
difficult path to figure out a way to crown a champion? Yeah, it's like the super conferences
is a cool, but then when there are so many teams in them and they can't all play each other,
which you just can't mathematically all play each other, some suffer, because Indiana could have
played a couple better teams if they just happened to have been scheduled, right?
Them playing like the worst seven or seven of the eight worst teams in the Big Ten, that is not their
fault. They beat everybody they were scheduled. And again, what gets used against them is something
that they had no control of. Now, they did lose Ohio State. But yeah, you're right. The superconferences
are cool, but unless more of these teams can play more of the teams in, we're going to have
this every single year. It's why I like the SEC having a ninth game. Yes, will it be harder
on them, but there's still another option to play more of the teams? I will say this, like, you
know, but the Big Ten has nine conference games themselves, and we're still having a scenario
there, like I mentioned with the Oregon. This is what we need to do, in my opinion,
and I'm trying to look out for the best interests of both sides, okay? Both these, all these
conferences want to make more money. They want to draw eyes and draw interest. So do this.
If you have 16 teams or more in your conference, do a pod system of four teams in each pod or whatever you got to do.
And take the champions from those pods, your divisions, and have them play a mini playoff of your own to crown a conference champion.
So in the SEC, take your top four teams in those pods and play two games.
Play semifinals and then an SEC championship game.
It gives you an extra two games to the season that you can sell to your ESPN conglomerate or whatever, make more money.
And then it also, I think, crowns a clear and concise champion in the SEC.
Because at that point, if like you said, not everybody can play everybody,
but your best teams, without a doubt in your conference,
would play each other at some point thanks to that two-team, or excuse me,
four-team, two-game playoff system within your own conference to settle on a champion.
I think if we're changing rules, let's change another one, too, the overtime rule.
I do like that they both get a chance to have the ball, right?
which is better than what the NFL.
NFL does it in the playoffs,
but I think the NFL system, again, flawed.
But I don't like, because it goes to the two-point conversion,
which we saw Texas A&M and Auburn.
That's just like rolling dice.
Like, that's one play.
What I don't like initially about what they do is
you literally could gain no yards and score points.
Like it's like, okay, let's go, let's say run for one yard,
run for one yard, run for one yard,
kick a fill, go with three points.
You could win the game by out.
actually doing nothing on offense.
If I were changing the rules, I would scoot them back.
And every time that we went to second overtime, move them up five yards.
So start at the 50.
Then second overtime, 45.
And we're still getting closer to making it a bit easier to score so we don't go forever.
And I think you and I have both seen a couple seven overtime games that went forever
and are legendary in our minds.
But when it goes to just a two-point conversion, that just seems like it's not even declaring
a real winner.
It's just like we're tired.
Let's just do something to end the game.
Yeah, I agree with you.
I like that idea.
Start at the 50 and then bring it in five yards closer with each over overtime going in.
I love that idea.
You can't kick a feel goal, right?
At the 50, I mean, if you don't get a first down or maybe even two, you can't kick a field
goal, therefore you cannot score on offense.
And again, they want to make sure these don't go forever.
So move it in five yards every single time and eventually four overtimes in.
You can kick a field goal.
But the Texas A&M got to drop the ball.
I felt terrible for him.
But again, what a stupid scenario that were a two-point conversions.
I don't like the two-point conversion.
Did your thought on that?
I don't like it either.
It was a couple years ago.
There was, what, a nine-over-time game between Illinois and Penn State, whatever it was,
and it was just two-point conversion after two-point conversion.
And it was dramatic, but it was also just like, like you said, it was like we're flipping a coin out there on every two-point conversion.
And also, these teams only have so many two-point conversion plays in their back pocket.
and they're starting to call things that they wouldn't even normally call
in those type of situations.
But yeah, I'm with you.
I just don't like that.
It's a very weird broken system.
I even prefer even the previous iteration of it before all this
when it was just, you know, you start off the 25 or 30 or whatever.
And then after the second or third overtime,
you have to go for two points instead of just a regular extra point kick or whatever.
But I don't like them doing this two-point conversion thing after the second overtime.
It doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
I have three final questions.
I do want to talk about Kansas in that big game.
And it's not a shock.
Kansas has been playing really well the last few games.
But as Kansas beats Colorado,
and I was watching Coach Prime say,
hey, look, we were smelling ourselves.
And I thought, I liked what he said after.
I thought he was super mature.
He was the grown up in the room even after that loss.
But with Kansas, I think they started two and six,
two and four.
Yeah.
So what, so, and we've had the Kansas coach on it, we loved them.
But going into the offseason for the Kansas program, even though I think they may end up at BESB 500, like do you feel like there's some momentum for that program just because of how they've all these top 25 teams they've beaten its end of the year?
Yeah, I mean, they're the first team with a losing record in the FBS to beat three straight ranked teams.
And they've been playing, I mean, they're the reason why the Big 12 is in chaos right now.
Because they've beaten the three of the top teams in the Big 12 standings.
going into this final week.
But that also tells you
like kind of we're about to lose something
year in college football. And from that standpoint
is, you know, the era of super
seniors, like the six year seniors,
some seventh year receivers because of the
previous pandemic or whatever, you're
able to keep an extra year of
eligibility. So a lot of these guys
for Kansas were able to stay there on the
roster an extra year or two.
And that's why they're playing
so well. That's why Kansas
was one of the favorites, one of the top three
four teams to contend for the Big 12 in the preseason because they had so much experience
returning. And it did pan out early. I think part of that was because they were dealing with a
new offense, a new offensive coordinator. And it took them some time to get used to that. They also
were dealing some injuries. But now they've got it rolling. And you're seeing exactly what they could
have been this entire season, which is going to be a Big 12 contender because they're so experienced.
I mean, Devin Neal, I mean, goodness gracious, he put up like 287 yards, more than 200 on the
ground himself, a senior, a guy who's got a lot of experience, and they leaned on him against
Colorado. They didn't punt a single time against Colorado, and they held the ball for more
than 40 minutes of the 60-minute game, just an absolute masterclass in keeping the ball out of
that explosive offense of Colorado. Two questions left. SMU, Miami, I think they're both in.
As of this moment, yes. I think the ACC was able to get two teams back on the map now because of the
SEC's problems.
If Miami wins this week at Syracuse and gets to the ACC championship game, yes.
And SMU is going to have to beat Cal this week to keep that alive, that two-team scenario.
I think if it ends up being SMU and Clemson in the ACC championship game, it'll probably
still be a one team in that playoff.
But at this point, I think if SMU and Miami both make it and they do so after wins this
week, they both should be, in my opinion, in the playoff.
Final question, you mentioned Miami-Siracus, and that's just, you know, the rivalry
week is usually just fun because it's rivals, but there are some pretty good games that are
going to actually affect the college football playoff, which I think makes it even that much
more fun.
Like, I think Arizona can beat Arizona State.
Arizona has not played well this year, but I think they have the talent to actually
scoop up a victory there.
I think Syracuse, I think they're top 25 now.
Right? Did they hit this week?
I think they're just outside of, but they're a borderline top 25 team and have been most of the year.
And I think they can beat Miami. I think Georgia Tech won't be the favorite to beat Georgia,
but have shown glimpses of being a team that can actually play with a really solid Georgia.
So there are so many of these games that probably would not matter except for the rivalry part of it
that are of extreme value because it's the final week before the conference games.
Which one do you see? Which of these rivalry games? Do you ask?
actually see there being an upset and it's shifting it again?
Great question. I think the opportunity's there for Texas, Texas A&M. I think everybody's low,
obviously, on A&M after losing at Auburn, but they're different at home. They're much
different against a rival at home. Texas and A&M haven't played in 13 years. A&M has been
waiting for this forever, and Texas has to go on the road. And Texas does not own a big win,
obviously, all season, and they have to go on the road, a college station. Very difficult.
spot and A&M's got an opportunity to maybe play into the SEC championship game, though
that doesn't look, I don't know, I'd look at the tiebreakers, but A&M's potential to play
itself back into the playoff hunt and Texas maybe to play itself out of it, despite being
in the top four or five at this moment. So I think that one's prime for an upset. I think if Georgia
had to go on the road to Georgia Tech, I'd be much hotter on Tech there because Tech obviously
is already beaten Miami this year. But they go to Georgia and rightfully so,
a double-digit underdogs.
I don't see really there being an upset threat there to me.
Another one to watch, though, is Tennessee at Vanderbilt.
Tennessee looks like it's in, maybe, in the playoff right now, potentially.
And Vanderbilt, as we've seen, they've been giant killers all season.
That's a very dangerous spot for the volunteers.
Can I throw one more at you, Notre Dame USC at USC Super Bowl?
It is, but I don't trust USC's offense at this moment.
with the new quarterback out there. He's playing okay, but they just didn't quite get as explosive
as I expected this past week against UCLA. And I think Notre Dame is playing about as good as anybody
in the country. They're on nine-game win streak. They've won those games by an average of 33 points.
They look like to me one of the top three or four teams in the country. In fact, I rated them
number three this week. Brandon, good to talk to you. It's awesome. I love the college football
playoff. It has made life so much more interesting, so many more things.
things to talk about, so many more games to care about.
And then I do like a beautiful mind and then I draw myself crazy doing all the notes.
Oh, God, what's going to happen?
Thank you.
Dude, good to talk to you.
And we will talk to you again sometime soon.
See you, buddy.
All right, see you, Bobby.
I think it's a pretty good Christmas gift.
If your family or friend is an Eagles fan, if not, I guess it'd be kind of lame,
but the realist is selling game used grass clippings from Eagles home games.
So, again, that is a novel gift for somebody who has everything.
Sure.
That's unique.
I'd want a game they won.
And also, you really probably can't prove
it's really like the grass. Who cares?
Right.
But for 2999,
you can bring a piece of the games home with you.
Eagles at Commanders, November 14th,
that one just happened.
You can get some grass from that.
November 3rd, Eagles, Jaguars.
I'm not sure if they won or lost these games.
September 16th, the Eagles Falcons.
They won eight in a row, I believe.
October 13th game against the Browns,
already sold out on their website.
Maybe they've had a long order that one.
Sold out, yeah.
Dang.
They have no grass.
You go look at the film and patches.
Who's the guy that you mow it?
Who's the guy that goes out there?
Huh?
Who's the guy that goes out there with like scissors and just...
I'm sure it's mowed.
And then they just...
The pile it up.
I think they just take pinches probably from the back.
That's fair.
There's not dedicated, dude.
Ray, think there's somebody with those old plastic scissors from the second.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah.
Yeah, there is a video where they shows them collecting clippings after the game,
but my bet would be they're getting the pile of
They're shooting that for promo
Because it doesn't matter
No
They're getting the pile
And then they're putting it in the game
You know
I feel like it's more special though
If a dude goes out there
It puts it in a petri dish
You know?
You're studying it?
No
Petri dish
Keep it safe
I thought that's a pretty good
little gift there
Our guy Rod
Was on TV
Oh that was so funny
Rod Phillips
Hey Mike you sent the picture
It was hilarious
He was at the Texas
Kentucky football game
And he's a big Kentucky fan
And it's like zoomed in on them.
It's just him, right?
It's like they do that whenever the person's famous
and they're like Roblo wearing an NFL hat at the Super Bowl.
They're like, look at this.
He's here promoting his show, but they're just out on Rod.
Or like a hot girl that's crying, you know?
Yeah.
Mike, what was the context there?
It was right after they missed a field goal.
Then they cut to Rod.
Was he sad guy?
He was a sad fan.
You ever been on TV at a game?
No.
I've been sad fan a couple times.
Really?
Wait, was it basketball?
Both recently?
One time basketball, one time angry fan at football.
So basketball was last year.
Yeah, I was going to see, I think I was watching that game.
Because I was sitting right behind the bench.
We ended up losing the SC tournament.
And I don't know if I, I don't think I was the saddest because I wasn't like,
you weren't crying.
There was a chance they knew who I was, but they didn't put it up there.
So I just said a chance.
Like they knew my job and that I had a little bit of notoriety because they kept the camera.
on me and I was like oh my god it just it was distraught fan more than it was sad fan could you sense
the camera guy on you no because it was across the court oh it wasn't like whenever they're doing let's do
kiss cam they come up right below you yeah in the aisle yeah or like at an awards show up they're like
we're going to put you on they put the camera right beside you and then you act like you don't see it
right it had to be from across the court and it just stayed on me the other time was I was on the
sideline of an arkansas racerback football game and I was with the quarterback's dad and both of us
together. I thought the camera at one point was honest, but I thought they were just like
recording something to like play into a commercial because it was like his dad and like me. And I'm
probably like one of the more known Arkansas fans of the, it's not like we have a lot. Just
Justin Moore, John Daily Me, Joe Nichols. Joe Nichols. Yeah. That's it's it. And so no, but it was
mostly because I was just pissed. It wasn't about the quarterback's dad. I was like, come on. And so
they just kept sure. So yes, I've been sad and angry. But someone like Rod, though, that's like winning
the lottery. So random. Yep. That's like winning the lottery. That's like winning the
there's so many people there and they picked him.
What did he say to you, Mike? Anything?
No. He didn't ever respond because he put him.
He just thought it was funny.
Yeah, it's weird. Good old Rod.
I mean, he was super zoomed in and focused on.
Oh, yeah.
Okay, do we need a break? Another break? Are we good?
Yeah, one more break.
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So a big shout out to Michigan football.
Billionaire Larry Ellison, who is the Oracle founder, co-founder, billions of dollars.
He's been married a few times.
His wife now, it could be a start or fourth wife.
I'm not sure.
She is a Michigan fan.
Michigan needs quarterback.
Now, LSU had Bryce Underwood committed.
He's the number one quarterback going into the 20-25 year.
He's going to come to LSU next year.
He probably started as a freshman and beat that dude.
Larry Allison has billions of dollars.
Not so much a cultural football fan himself.
But again, his now wife is now a Michigan fan.
So he ponied up to $20 million and bought Bryce Underwood.
I don't know.
Did the NIL, like four-year, $20 million.
He wasn't, Bryce Underwood was not flipping from LSU, even though he's a Michigan kid.
He had said, like, a week and a half ago, he's like, I'm here.
I'm here. And then...
And the money goes to him, like, it's just
thank you... Well, it's NIO money, sure.
You don't get all $20 million at once,
and then, you know, it's like a four-year,
$5 million a year if you stay type thing.
But that's, like, how lucky are Michigan fans
and one of their people married a billionaire?
Yeah.
That's baller. Like, that's the goal, right?
Not to marry a billionaire, but to just go,
that player's awesome. I just want to...
Because, again, the scale I do it on is much smaller.
What if his wife was a fan of Sam Houston State?
Like, would he go to Sam Houston State for the five mill a year?
Like, because that's tough because that's a career decision.
Maybe.
That's a lot of money.
It is a lot of money.
Maybe.
I don't even know that it's $5 million, but I think it was around $20 million.
And I saw, because Dave Portnoy from Barstool had said months ago, he's like, I'll pay a couple million bucks a year to get a quarterback there.
And they were giving him the credit.
And he came on and he said, dude, I had nothing to do with it.
He was like, I would love to take credit.
but I have, I can't.
And so that is awesome to have a billionaire.
That is cool.
I say that, let me back up.
Why do you think we have John Caliper?
Yeah, that tells you that.
He's not a player, it's a coach.
It's John Tyson.
Oh, yeah.
And that's not NIL.
This is salaries.
The salaries have often been paid by rich people going through the foundation.
So that's what happened.
But it's, it's similar-ish.
But because this wife is a Michigan fan,
they went and got him a quarterback.
Jerry Jones, give any money to?
Yeah, some.
And then some probably we don't know about,
but also like the whole, the facilities, Jerry Johns.
Oh, the names all over it, yeah.
But, I mean, they spend a lot.
He spends a lot of money.
I'd like to make a comparison before we go.
And I like Sam Pittman, the Arkansas Razorback coach.
I like him as a person a lot.
And I think the transition that he has allowed us to make from being just God-awful
to stable has been one that should be admired
because he has brought real stability to the program.
we're I think six and five right now.
It's not been a good year.
And I was thinking, what,
who is the parallel?
It's Gino Smith.
Sam, just so you guys can understand
where we are here,
Sam Pittman is Gino Smith,
the quarterback for the Seahawks.
Stable.
Every once in a while I'm going to win your game, you shouldn't win.
That's Tennessee this year.
Every once in a while you're like, dang, that's freaking,
Gino went off.
Sometimes going to lose your game, you shouldn't lose.
But for the most part, going to win the games,
you probably should win,
going to lose the games,
probably should lose,
on what else is. Never going to win you a Super Bowl.
Probably not going to get to the NFC championship.
Can't be mad at him. Seattle was in disarray.
Gino Smith came in and stabilized the Seattle Seahawks.
And if I'm a quarterback, I'm like, you know what?
I kind of like what he's done over there.
Pittman had a nine win year once.
We got a little too excited yesterday that we're going to a bowl game.
That's so annoying to me. It's like four ball games in a row.
You're going bowling, dude.
You can be 500 and go bowling.
I know, I know.
That is not.
I would rather take big swings and misses on like hot shot young guys
than just be for sure six, seven wins.
When did we interview coach?
Last year.
Was it in between beginning of the season or beginning of last season?
Last year.
Okay.
Because Cam was still playing.
Cam Little.
Okay, because last season, he said his goal is to make a bowl game.
But that wasn't his goal this year.
probably better than that this year
huh?
I don't matter
I know
you're going bowling though
you know which bowl
no you never know
because we play Missouri
this week
oh the funniest thing
was the Missouri
Mississippi State game
and so it's near the end of the game
and I like the Missouri coach
people of Arkansas
hate the Missouri coach
I like the Missouri coach
he's got a big mouth
he's hilarious
he's hilarious with us
and he's from Arkansas
He used to be Arkansas season ticket holder.
He is an Arkansas guy.
That's funny.
But he's a Missouri head coach.
And he told him Mississippi State,
because the game was about over,
but they were down in the red zone,
about to score again.
Then they didn't have to score again.
He was like,
Mississippi State shut up or I'm going to score again.
Yeah.
I saw that club.
Like, drink was going off.
So funny.
And he's one of those guys like mus and basketball.
Like, you love him if he's yours.
You hate him if he's not.
And then once he starts to not be good,
then you hate him if he's yours.
But what that is,
he has is like I would compare it to who is a basketball player for Ole Miss that was just so
freaking annoying white kid everybody hated him unless he played for Ole Miss but he played so hard
for Ole Miss oh yeah you say his name slip in my mind if you somebody Google white kid from
old miss that was annoying name white basketball player from old miss that was annoying and I bet you
pops up first first that's probably like eight nine years ago let's see cases on it
Marshall Henderson it is Marshall Henderson thank you very much
Oh, yeah.
First name.
First name.
I do remember him, actually.
Yeah.
That's amazing.
Look at his pictures.
He looks annoying just by the picture.
Yes.
And if he's your guy, you're like,
that's our guy.
Maybe he's not.
But my, yeah, yeah, my comp,
Sam Pennman is Gino Smith.
And the Seahawks is probably proud
they have Gino and happy.
They know they're not going to win a Super Bowl.
They can't wait for who the next guy is.
They get him a good contract.
Go get in the playoffs.
When you possibly a game.
But it's not.
It's not.
And I like Sam.
And if he gets another year, you know what?
One more year, I'm okay with that.
But I'd also be okay if he was like, I'm done.
I don't really want to see him fired.
I would love for him to go, I'm going to go one more year.
This is the next coach up.
He's going to be the case he gives some stability to the program.
And then I'm out after this year.
But I think we have Gino Smithed ourselves and we're there.
We're at the height.
We could win seven or eight games,
but we're never going to be somebody that competes for the SEC.
I don't think we are.
There you go.
There's my comp.
And speaking of coaches, we'll end on this.
Lane Kiffin.
Oh.
Kevin?
I've always been a big fan of Lane Kiffin.
Love his style, except for the USC days because I can't say in USC.
But I've liked the way he coaches, doesn't care.
Like we were just talking about, you love him if he's your guy.
You don't like him if he's not.
And I bought in this year.
I was ready for Ole Miss.
Jackson Dart, everybody, let's go.
We're going to the college football playoff.
It's going to be a fun year for Ole Miss.
And then they lose one.
What a dumpster, too.
And then they lose two.
Yeah.
Okay.
And then this third one, it's a fun.
like, all right, I'm done with Lane Kiffin.
Done with the act, done with his whole persona.
And I'm done ever believing in
Lane Kiffin or what he can do.
I can see being annoyed with him.
I would love to have Lane Kiffin.
Ooh.
I'm telling you, I can't say this story.
Lane Kiffin was Arkansas's football coach
before Pittman.
Oh.
I can't tell you what happened.
Interesting.
I can tell you when the microphones are on.
I can tell you when the microphones are on.
nobody did it.
Lane Kiffin was Arkansas football coach.
Dang.
That's all.
That's all.
I can't say anything else.
I even want to say other things.
Yeah, I can tell you you want to say more.
And it's not even like a rumor.
Like I know a lot of, I know specific people that were in,
but that's all I will say.
And it wasn't, the deal had to have been signed,
but it'd basically been agreed upon.
Like, Lane Kiffin was Arkansas coach.
Yeah, Lane Kiffin could be annoying.
I like Lane Kiffin.
I think if Lane Kiffin, for some reason decided he's going to be, he's not going to be
because Ole Miss had their greatest, like two-year run in history of the freaking program.
Yeah, it sucks for them.
I'm happy for them.
I'm happy it sucks for them too.
And Ole Miss is a program annoys me.
I can see that.
Yeah.
But for Ole Miss fans in general who like, hottie-toddy is so stupid.
It's such a stupid thing to say.
But so it's whoopi-dooy-doy.
You know, I can see where people hate that.
Yeah.
but Ole Miss just feels like rich snobs for the most part
like their brand but I have friends that are Ole Miss fans that are not rich snobs
and I feel bad for them because they had a lot of expectations on this year
they had a quarterback coming back in Jackson Dardt I don't know what he was thinking
those last plays Jackson yeah yeah those two picks too awful especially the
triple coverage or whatever it was in the end zone that's some DAC stuff because you
thought it was gonna there were a couple times where you're like oh this game is
over meaning Florida has won the game but Ole Miss got it back again
Yeah.
And I was like, okay, well, it looks like
that's bad.
If I'm an Ole Miss fan of my heartbroken today,
you're not in the CFP.
That was the goal.
That was the getting the CFP or bust
for a successful season, and they are not in it.
And after the second loss, you're like, oh, it's done.
But then they give you life a little bit more.
You're like, they could do it.
They could do it.
And then they lose again, obviously, to Florida,
who, by the way, is playing a lot better.
Yeah, no, I'm super happy for Florida.
Dude, he was run out of town without being run out of town.
Their head football coach.
Napier.
Yeah, he was out.
And now, I think they're
500 or close to 500.
Yeah, I think they're maybe 5 and 6.
But yeah, they've won, I think, three or four in a row.
And they're going to play Florida State this week.
And they're going to spank that.
That's so weird to say that's a win.
That's so weird that they've gone, I think,
because what are they 1 and 10?
Florida State?
Yeah.
That's crazy.
No, I think they played a bad team this week.
I think they played a, like a Division 3 team.
They may be 2 and 9.
You may look that up.
Searching.
because...
Definitely didn't watch that one.
Yeah, they are two and nine.
Did they play...
Because I don't watch any of it on the scroll.
It was like...
Charleston...
Something?
Charleston Southern Buccaneers.
Exactly, guys.
They won 41 to 7.
Exactly.
Yeah, maybe they're back.
They're back.
Cool logo for that team now.
They've gotten spanked pretty much every game.
I don't understand.
I don't know.
That's wild.
Like, it's such...
The juxtaposition of last year versus this year.
And listen, there are times where you lose
and you have to rebuild,
but this is not a rebuilding.
this is a death.
This is like Eric Dickerson just got caught taking a car,
death penalty at SMU,
and now we're going to launch the program back after 10 years.
You know?
This is like Aaron Rogers coming to a team,
expecting a lot of things and then...
A little more relevant.
We like that, a little more relevant of a comparison.
Okay, I think that's it.
Thank you guys.
What a weekend.
I don't know.
Overall, I think it was a win.
The weekend?
It was fun.
It was entertaining.
It was entertaining, for sure.
At witching hour is cool.
Dude, witching hour.
That's it. We'll see you guys later on this week. Bye everybody.
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