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Episode Date: December 18, 2025

Bobby and Eddie talked about what’s going on with Puka Nacua after 2 crazy stories came out about him. We talked to Oklahoma State's new head football coach, Eric Morris. Coach Morris came over from North Texas where he spent 2 years as their head coach and led them to an 11-2 record this year. He was also a standout wide receiver at Texas Tech in his playing days and what went into his decision to coach at Oklahoma State. We talke Download the DraftKings Sportsbook App today: https://dkng.co/bobbysports If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/MI/NJ/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/NH), 888-789-7777/visit http://ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 1-877-770-STOP (7867) (LA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), call/text TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA).   21+ (18+ WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/LA/MI/NJ/ NY/PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. N/A in NH/OR/ON. New customers only. Valid 1 per new customer. Min. $5 deposit. Min $5 wager. $200 issued as eight (8) $25 free bets. Ends 9/19/22. See http://draftkings.com/sportsbook for details.   Follow the Show: @25WhistlesSports   Follow the Crew: @MrBobbyBones @ProducerEddie @KickoffKevin @MikeDeestro @BrandonRayMusic  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Oh, you're talking about what he... You see his brother stole a car? No, no. Okay, you'd go first. No, I'm talking about him, just talking about refs. Complaining about refs publicly. Like, dude... Oh, he was on Aiden Ross's stream?

Yeah, that was. Yeah, and he's talking about how like, yeah, I think refs like just do dumb calls just so they can be, have TV time. Like, dude, these are the people that call... Like, you can't do that. And yes, refs try to... be fair, but at the same time, like, if you say something like that, they will do call bad calls on purpose on you.

I don't know if they'll do that because they're so judged by cameras. But you don't think refs, like, have grudges on certain players? Because, I mean, they can like... They are human, but I mean, the only one, only calls would really be holding. Maybe some pass interference, but still, it's on camera so much that a ref's job is actually affected by how bad a job he does. Yeah. Dude, I was thinking about this about refs.

I did think it was funny. He said that, though. It was funny. But, I mean, I feel like now there's a target in his back from all refs. But anyway, isn't it kind of cool, like, how they review these plays now? Like, you know, first downs. They have to go through, like, what does they call it? On scoring plays they do. Yeah, or sometimes on first downs they'll, like, do, they're going to do. If there's a check on where the ball is, spotting the ball.

Technology review or whatever. Okay. How do you think the ref feels? when it's proved wrong. I thought the same about reps in baseball when they call somebody safe and they go back and look and they were out. Like that's embarrassing. Totally embarrassing.

Yeah, it's embarrassing. I feel bad. Like, I love the technology. Love that they're getting calls right. And yes, there's an actual line down the field that tells you if it's a first down or not. Love it. But the same time, the rest got to be like,

oh, that was not. That's short. That's short by two yards. And then they look at it and like, no, it wasn't. Dang it. Yeah, that's embarrassing. I would think. The other story about Pucanakua was, so Adu Thero, who played at Arkansas, which is why I think I got the story in my feed.

But he had his SUV stolen while he was playing, and one of the people who stole his car was Pookanakua's brother. No way. I'll read you this. Wait, was he in Arkansas? No, no, he's played for the Lakers now. Okay, got it. Yeah, this story from NBC Los Angeles, two men, including the brother of Los Angeles Ramsar, Pooka, were arrested over the weekend after allegedly taking Los Angeles Lakers forward, Adu Thero's SUV without. as consent. Deputies were called the one hotel in West Hollywood after the vehicle was tracked

to the hotel. There, the suspects had valeted the car and entered the hotel. They took, they stole it and then valeted it. Dang, that's gutsy. While reviewing security footage, deputies were able to identify the suspects and found them soon after. They arrested them on suspicion of taking the SUV. Wow. It's unclear where or when the SUV was stolen. The suspects arrested in the case were identified as 27-year-old Trey Rose and 27-year-old Samson Nakua, who is the brother of Rams Puka Nakua. Is this another Pavia family? Right, crazy, crazy brothers. Do you think it's fair, though? I understand the connection right in the story, but do you think it's fair when, like, a brother of somebody commits a crime and then they

always tie it to the famous person? Fair? I think it's newsworthy because his brother's famous. Yeah, but like if my brother did something in Pennsylvania. You're not famous enough. You're not famous enough. Say I'm puka. Okay. Like, it's not fair that my brother, because his brother, brother who I was just born. I mean, he's just my brother by birth. Like, and he messed up in Pennsylvania has nothing to do with me. But now that you brought my brother's crime into my life, now people are going to associate us. That's happened throughout the history of time. Bill Clinton's brother, Roger Clinton, Sylvester Stallone's brother. Like your family is just part of it. When you get famous, your family comes into it with you. It's like our wives that have to, at times,

be subjected to mean stuff mine specifically just because she's my wife. Yeah. So part of the deal is if somebody in your circle, especially a relative gets famous, you have to have some of that runoff on you. And also, you don't think the brothers are taking advantage of as well. Sure. Like if you're going to take the pros, you got to take the cons. Also, don't steal somebody's car. So, no, I'm not going to feel sorry for anybody. I'm saying for puka. That just sucks for puka. He had nothing to do with it, but his name gets brought into it. You got to make sure your brother's not an idiot. Yeah. That's funny, Pavia situation. Those brothers, man. Yeah, those brothers. That's bad news.

We have Eric Morris coming up, the head coach of Oklahoma State. I'm telling you, I really feel like Alabama is going to beat Oklahoma. I agree. I want Oklahoma to win because it would make my father-in-law happy. And Oklahoma is a favorite by a point in a half right now. Are you surprised by that? No, because they're in Oklahoma, and usually it's three points, so that would mean Alabama, a neutral site would be a point-and-half favorite. Alabama will get some of their guys back.

Oklahoma just can't score Yeah Defense is good The best Can't score I'm going to go significant I don't want to have to Maybe I won't

I don't want to have a rooting interest Against my father-in-law They're going to the game They are Oh that's awesome That's super fun for them That's really cool I mean

I guess it's been a bit right Since Oklahoma's been They played earlier this year Oklahoma beat them But they had a bunch of turnovers Alabama did I just think Alabama is going to win that game. You can try to go hard?

I'm going to nothing. Oh, no, I don't think so. Now that I talk about it, I don't want to have to quietly root under my breath. Because my wife will be watching it, obviously. It's the only Friday night game as well. But, yeah, I think Alabama really. I think Alabama can be Indiana. I know they just got embarrassed by playing Georgia and the S.C.

championship. But I think Alabama, if they win this game, I think they can also beat Indiana. So take that for what it's worth. They've had a terrible year betting. What about Ole Miss? I'm just, I don't understand how a coach can just jump into a team and be like, all right, you're in the playoffs. Let's roll.

Well, he didn't just jump in. He was their coordinator. Yeah, I know. He's been there the whole year. It's different, though. It's like your head coach has bailed on you guys. Like, do you think that helps the team or hurts the team? The head coach is a defensive coordinator, a really good defensive coordinator.

I'm sure, offensively. And I think their offensive coordinator is coming back to actually call the game, but their offensive coordinator was Lane Kiffin. I think... And the O.C. I mean, he went with Lane? Yeah, but he's coming back to coach. They're not letting Lane come back to coach.

I think it probably is a disadvantage. Yeah. But I think everybody gets... They're also playing two Lane, which is a rematch. They kicked the crap out of two lane earlier this year. I don't think it matters here. I don't think they're good enough to actually win it or win the second round game.

I don't think it's really going to come into play here because I don't think they were good enough anyway to actually win more than two games. So it sucks your coach leaves Obviously he's really good I don't think it's going to matter in this situation Because they're playing Tulane No yeah because they'll kill Tulane

And then they'll lose the next week Got it Did I get a retweet from my coordinator You got a retweet? Did you see that? I was wondering if you got a reply from him Oh a reply Yeah

Got it So the Arkansas special team's coordinator Follows me I didn't know that I thought you were just blind tweeting him. No. So someone had said, hey, Arkansas, hire the new special teams coach. I didn't know he was.

And I just went to his page to see if I knew him or knew anybody that were mutual friends. And he followed me. And I saw that he followed me. I just messaged him. And I was like, hey, welcome to the hogs. Hope to see you around. That was it. Okay.

Yeah. No, that's it. I don't know him. Oh, that's it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got a like on that. Oh. But also, like, I was just saying it.

He followed me. I don't want to, I don't know. I'm trying to have some hospitality, you know. So, yeah, the Dolphins benched toa. I know. I saw that for Quinn. And not for Zach Wilson. And Zach Wilson was pissed.

Yeah, I'd be pissed. But Quinn Ewers, you got to give him a shot to see if he's any good. Let's see what happens. It's not that they even think Quinn Ewers is better than Zach Wilson right now. But I think it's a, hey, let's see if we think there's anything in Quinn Ewers. Because Mike McDonnell's going to come back. But I don't think that to it, they owe him a lot of money. I don't think he's a quarterback next year.

And I think that's kind of obvious now. because they've benched him. They do owe him a lot. But, yeah, Zach Wilson was pissed. Man, I kind of like Quinn Ewers going in for us needing the Bengals win. You know, why not try a new quarterback? It wouldn't have mattered. You don't think so?

I mean, too, I sucked this year. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, sure. I don't know. I saw it, and I'm like, okay, this is a perfect time because we need the Bengals to win. Nick Saban bought a minority part of the Nashville Predator NHL team. I saw that. That's awesome.

Do you think it'd be weird to make a lot of money but have all the money when you got old? Wouldn't it be cool to be rich and young? Well, but that's the problem with like working so hard. No, like working so hard. Like you, you know, like you know this. Like you work hard and then you make a lot of money. So like you can't really enjoy the money because you got to keep working. Yeah, but you don't do the work for the money.

I think that's where the difference is. Right, but you do the work. so there's no time to have fun with the money until you're done. But you're not doing it for the money. So it's not that you're going crazy because you have this money because now you have to work all the time. You're actually, you caring about the work is what makes you the money. Sure. Yeah. I haven't gotten there yet. No, I mean, I love what I do.

You don't care about the work enough to actually make the money. It's counterproductive. It's counterintuitive even. You think, well, you work a whole lot. You make a lot of money. You want to work less because you have a lot of money. It's the opposite. You don't work for the money. Right. You work for the work.

and then the money comes, and then you're like, well, I still love doing the work for the work. When do you enjoy the money? Now that you're done coaching. It's never about the money. Yeah. So that's the answer. And that's probably it with Nick Saban, too. So is he a hockey fan or he just kind of like, I got a lot of money?

What do I do with it? What do you think about that? Probably he was presented an opportunity. To just be a, was it minority? Yeah. Preders chairman, a majority owner of Bill Haslam announced Tuesday the purchase made by Dream Sports Ventures. entity control by Sabin and business partner Joe Agra Setti. Although I'm now retired as a coach, I still possess a competitive nature and a great passion for sports.

We're going to see Saban on the glass pounding it at a game. Him wearing that color would be weird. Yeah, the yellow. I saw him with a Predators jersey or something. It did look weird. Yeah, I just don't see them in that color. I can't see them back in the LSU colors. I can find old pictures of them or even in the Michigan State colors.

No, it's all maroon. Yeah, it is Alabama. We do have coach Eric Morris coming up from Oklahoma State. Let's build a parlay. I'm going Alabama money line. It's all you, man. And I'm not even taking the point in a half. So get on draft kings.

I'm going Alabama money line. I'm also going to take the Texas A&M money line. Now, they are minus three and a half. But I'm taking the A&M money line as well. The crazy game is the James Madison Oregon game. It's a 21-point game. Yeah. I think Oregon covers that.

I would think so. Yeah. I just think, and I was reading a tweet where a guy was like, this is a danger to the James Madison players, health reasons. Yeah. Playing Oregon. Yeah. Like they're so much bigger and faster.

But a lot of these P4 schools play these G-4 all the time. But I'm going to go Oregon minus 21. That is a lot of points to give up. So I'm going to go Alabama money line, Texas A&M money line, Oregon minus. You can download the Draft King Sportsbook app. Use the code Bobby Sports. That is the code Bobby Sports. Bet five bucks and get $200 in bonus bets.

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Absolutely. Appreciate you having me on. Hey, we're debating. That's the legit setup. Is that a green screen or is that like a special Batman room you walk into with that? This is a Batman room. I don't know exactly what it's called yet. I've learned so many new things and places and names over the course of the last two weeks. I'm a little discombobulated. So I have a lot of family that have gone to Oklahoma State and I have a lot of family from Oklahoma in general. That is such a distinct color. That orange, I imagine you didn't have any of that color in your closet already and it had to be a whole new wardrobe, right? Zero. So, you know, I've been red and black most of my life, and then we moved to North Texas. And so I had zero green when I arrived in Denton. And three years later, we looked in our closets to my wife and I, and there's nothing but green in there. And so we're in the transition phase to turn in that green into bright orange right now. That's all ties. And I mean, you have everything green. So what do you do with all the green stuff? Because it's not like you can go to a press conference and have a little green in a tie or a lapel. or something. Yeah, we love to donate. And so, you know, and I start usually with making calls that wear our sizes with people in Denton that love North Texas and be able to give them some,

some knife closing that they'll go out and wear. And then the things that we end up not giving away, you know, we'll take and we'll donate it to the less fortunate. You know, you played a Texas Tech. Friends with Coach McGuire, he sent us a helmet up here. I didn't think about that when you were coming on. We keep it on the desk here. You were quite the baller back at Tech. I was just looking out some stats before you came on. You know this probably, or maybe you've forgotten it. 184 for almost 2,000 yards and 23 total touchdowns. Do you have a favorite, one favorite touchdown? If I say, tell me your favorite playing touchdown, coach. Yeah, I scored the game went in touchdown against Nebraska in the 08 run. And so I think that's the one that's a memory

that I'll keep forever. We're actually in the huddle in overtime at the one yard line. And Mike Leach was talking to Dana Hoverson upstairs, and they're talking about running in the middle and Mike says, hey, I know what they don't expect coming. And he used to call me the elf, and he said, they won't expect elf around the edge. And so, so here we go. You know, Mike, Mike ends up calling my number in the huddle and get around the corner and score a touchdown. And so, yeah, that's a great memory that I'll have for. I scored a touchdown early in the game against the famous Texas game, the Crabtree catch. Obviously, that one gets overshadowed by, by the miraculous play that Graham Harold Michael Crabtree had.

So that one would have been a lot better if I would have had that on my resume. But yeah, the Nebraska is definitely the one. That game where Crabtree caught that ball. We were all living in Austin at the time. And it's Halloween night. Everybody knows where they were. I do for sure. Everybody can remember this.

It's awesome. It was a Halloween game. It may have even been on Halloween night. And I hate Texas, the University of Texas. I hate, I'm Arkansas. I hate Texas with every part of my body. even though I lived in Austin, so I was rooting hard against Texas. And it was probably like a top 20 moment for me and involved none of my teams at all.

But that had to be a crazy game at the end, right? Is that nonstop party with the fans on the field for an hour? Yeah, it was fun. Everybody always asked kind of what happened over the course of the night. And I'm like, listen, there was so many. I mean, people were burning couches in the streets. Nobody was moving. And so really, to be honest with you, like, I didn't get home until like 2 a.m.

My center was the room. I mean, my roommate was our center at the time. And finally, like, we couldn't drive our cars home. And so we just walked, which was, you know, probably a 15, 20 minute walk. I mean, like, all right, let's go home. And so we ended up, you know, just kept grabbing a couple drinks on the couch and we rewatch the game on the TV. Man, what a night.

Even for me, what a night. I hate Texas so much. What a night that was even for me. All right. So Stillwater, been there a few times. Like, when you move to a new city, obviously you don't have a house ready to go. Do you live in like a semi-permanent housing until you get a place? And when does your family move up?

Yeah, everything kind of has switched, I think, just like it has in life in general, I think. You know, the first week I was in a hotel, they have a hotel on campus, which is awesome, called the Atherton. And then after that, they moved us into an Airbnb, which is a little bit more conducive to when my family does want to come up here from time to time. So we just bought a home, and it'll close. I think January 20th, it closes. And so then the next question is just where your kids are in their lives, I think. I have a 10-year-old and a 5-year-old, and my 10-year-old wants to finish out his season with his basketball team. And so the sweet spot for us this year, I think, is going to be spring break.

And so allow our kids to continue to go to school down in Denton and then the transition. You kind of have a week to get everybody moved up here, get adjusted to the lifestyle of stillwater, a little bit slower moving, small-town pace, which we love. I'm from a small town in West Texas. And so my wife's actually from a small town in Arkansas. So this fits us and was part of the big reason why I wanted to join forces here with Oklahoma State and raised my family in a small town. But so, yeah, we'll bring the kids up, spring break. Everything moved into the new house.

And then they'll transition into a new school right after spring break. I got to do it. And where's your wife from? I'm from a small town in Arkansas. She's from Rector, Arkansas. And we used to play ball in Rector. Yeah. I love it.

So I'll be in Rector here in a couple weeks. Actually, they're not cotton farmers. And so just on the side, I actually, I think I just purchased my either third or fourth cotton farm a couple weeks ago. So I'm a proud landowner in North East Arkansas. You mentioned a minute ago two coaches that are known, at least by me, offensively, as guys that change the game. And even Coach Holgerson, who you played for. And, you know, when you look up what you do, the word air raid comes up a lot. if you were to explain the air raid in 30 seconds,

like how does the air raid differ from other explosive offenses? Yeah, I think it's more of a philosophy now, and I think it's the way we practice. I think, you know, just I was so blessed. My position coach has been in college when I was a player where Dana Hoverson, Sonny Dikes, and Lincoln, Riley, were all my position coaches. And so I think we've all taken something from the philosophy,

although now, you know, we like to run the ball more in our plays. We're a little bit more diverse. on what we do from a creativity standpoint. But I think the way we practice and how many plays we have on our script, like we all continue to do the things that Mike taught us, you know, 20 years ago. Have you drawn up an offensive play that one day, if the scenario is right, like a super crazy trick play that you've never used? Yeah, and, you know, the cool thing is naming these plays now.

And so we have all these tempo plays that are one-word calls as we call them. And so it's fun to sit down like with people. and a new staff or new players and you go back, you know, for instance, we have a play called a lollipop right now, and it's called lollipop because the player we created it for, you know, six years ago at Incarnate Word is one of my favorite players I've ever coached. And for his art project that year, he was showing us a YouTube video and he was on a roller skates and they were doing this lollipop video, the song Lollipop. Oh, yeah.

Everybody knows it. Yeah, yeah. And so, so this play that's a play that's, been super successful for us over the course of the last five years. Like we just continue to call it lollipop. And, you know, your, your players in North Texas were like, coach, like, why are we called this lollipop? It's something you bring up the YouTube and the thing and you show them this guy on roller skates doing this thing. And everybody laughs for a while. I'm like, holy crap. That went to a place I never expected. And so, so yeah, we have some crazy things that we've drawn up. And there's

one pass that we've had the playbook all year this year at North Texas that we were going to throw the ball to one of our offense alignment, and we practice it all the time. Never found the right opportunity to call it this year. It'll come out at some point. What was it about Oklahoma State that drew you because obviously you were a coach in demand, you were linked with a bunch of places wanting you? So why go to Stillwater? I'm a Big 12 guy.

I'm a small town guy. And I think just it was aligned, you know, with kind of our values as a family. and I think more so now in college football, like the landscape has changed so fast. And I tell people all the time, like, the pendulum swung and it was so violent and nobody's been able to catch up, like, you know, for how many ever years,

you know, there's no transferring without penalties and there's absolutely no paying players legally. And all of a sudden, it's just become a free-for-all. And so I think having an alignment from your president and your athletic director on down. And then, too, for me, I have good memories of Oklahoma State. It wasn't long ago. Like, I love what Mike Gundy was able to build here.

I've seen, you know, boom picking stadium rocking with 60,000 people. And so, you know, for me to be able to raise my family in this environment, still get these small town, you know, values while I'm raising them while playing major P4 football was something that was a perfect fit for me. Whenever you fill out your staff, are you bird dog in every single decision or do you delegate a bit to some of your guys to, hey, who do you think we should bring in for some of these position jobs or even lesser, like, even GA role jobs? I bird dog all of it on the front end because I don't want to micromanage on the back end. I want to hire smart people and allow them to do their jobs, right? And so I think, you know, there's so many different dynamics that you need putting together as staff. And, you know, my first job with Mike Leach, I got to fly up to Pullman with him because I was the first guy hired.

I was 23 years old, I think, at the time. And so, and then, you know, a year later, I was the first person that Cliff Kingsbury hired, and I was 24 or 25 as an offensive coordinator at Texas Tech. And so for me to, like, be a fly on the wall and watch and learn. not only the things that they did that ended up being really good, but also, you know, some of the things that I thought ended up being toxic and, and things that didn't work out. And so it was always intriguing to me, you know, and I've used those experiences on

on why I've hired, you know, people in Incarnate Word, why I hired people at North Texas, and then why, you know, I'm hiring people now. And so I'm a little bit more involved on the front end just because once, once they do get here, like I pay them good salaries now. nowadays. I mean, the salaries that we play these assistant coaches is phenomenal and just coaching in general, right? There's so much money involved in college football. And so I'm paying them that for a reason and I want them to come in here and be successful and take pride in their job. And I don't want to be able to, especially with me calling the play still. Like, that's my one

thing that I love to do. And it keeps me young and motivated. And I love drawing plays and being creative and going out there and competing on Saturday. So for me to be able to do, that offensively. Like I have to have, you know, the scouting department perfect set up how I want. I got to have our recruiting department. I got to have, you know, now this, the new role of a general manager and the financial piece of it. And there's so much that ROI is a real thing in college football now where 15 years ago, like, I didn't even know how to run an Excel spreadsheet. And now I know how to do those things. And when I got into coaching, like, I never saw that aspect of coming and so important for me to surround myself with a lot of smart people and let them go to

work. So, yes, I do get really involved on the front end. You guys do the guns. Oklahoma said it has the guns, right? A lot of people do the guns. Do you watch a YouTube video to make sure you don't do it wrong? Yeah, like, and do you have somebody look at you do it to make sure it looks right to the fans before you hop up in that first press conference? No, I was told at some point, you know, Texas Tech does it too, and obviously me going there and having great connections with, with everything in Lubbock like you know I'm supposed to put them out to the side a little bit more and in this way I think it's kind of what what I was told and even before I even threw it up you know and gave it go pokes and so so yeah I mean I think there's just there's great people here the reception's

been phenomenal and and just learning one step at a time you know how to how to do things the Oklahoma State way whenever you get a new job especially one as high profile as Oklahoma State does your phone just go insane, not only with people you know congratulating you, but all the people that are now part of the new version of Oklahoma State that want to like reach out, hey, let me know that like want to get in. Does it happen a lot? Yeah, I think in the first two, I think day two after it was announced, my wife and I were sitting in bed and my text messages were up to like 650 text messages. Oh my goodness. Just sorting through that. And then like you said, I mean, there's obviously

a bunch of coaches that, you know, are congratulating me because we have great relationships and then a bunch of coaches that want or need a job and everybody's reaching out for people that they think have a chance. And then you're sorting through, you know, the alumni base at Oklahoma State and trying to figure out, you know, through your athletic director and fundraisers. I mean, just a level of importance. Not that they're not important because I believe in forming relationships with everybody. Like that's why I love this town. and I want to build genuine relationships with everybody. And so sorting through that, the first,

and I think, you know, I've done this before, the first six months, I mean, you're drinking from a water hose. I mean, it's not, it's never going to feel like it slows down until you kind of get everything here and established and your culture and working in the weight room and your off-season program. And like, to me now, like, I love more than ever, like, being on the grass and having a whistle on. blowing my whistle and coaching the ever-living dog out of these kids.

Just because this job now involves so many different layers that it didn't 10 years ago. And so like I earned from those moments where I'm like there's sometimes I'll sit back and reflect, you know, watching our coaches coach on the field because it's like that's my happy place. That's what I love to do. And although there are a lot of other important things that go along with this job. I'll ask you two more questions. your dad was a coach, basketball coach. You played basketball.

Could you dunk? No, are you kidding me? I don't know, you're an athlete. You're elf. Some of those elves that can... I'm magical powers to leap. No, I could always grab the rim and hang on to it. So, like, and growing up in a small town in the gym, like, that's what we did for fun when we shot, right?

Had an amazing shot, scored a lot of points from outside in basketball. So I could dunk a tennis ball. and so it could always jump up and grab the rim and hang on it and do all those things. But actually is a full-size men's basketball. I could not get it over the hoop. Final question, because you were a good punt returner as well. Like, what's the key to not worrying you're about to die as it's coming toward you? Yeah, it's just got to be crazy.

So the funny story. So Danny and Mendole and I were in the same signing class. And one of my great friends still talked to him, you know, every week. And so when we first got there, obviously, Wes Welker was the hottest thing in college football. And he was graduating as we were coming in. And so I remember getting there and Dana Holerson handing us, you know, it was a VHS tape at that time.

And basically they didn't give us a playbook and said, hey, if you can do this, you can play here. Y'all need to study this this summer. So it's Wes Welker highlights, right? And so every night we're sitting at the VHS, you know, we're hitting stop and play and stop and play and re-rewind in it and just studied and mocked his game. And then, you know, Wes had told us at some point we were going to be the next punt

returners, which we were for the next four years. He told us that we don't fair catch around here. Like if they want somebody to fair catch, tell them to do that. And if not, you know, if you want a returner, it should be you guys. And so, so like we didn't fair catch and, you know, we took some blitz from it too. I mean, there were some certain situations. on a great punt and hang time and Gunner gets down there and we took some wild shots, but we took great pride in it.

I think, you know, that was that was our edge, our mentality, our toughness and just love to prove people wrong. And I think watching somebody like Welker and then just being able to continue to what, what he built was, was a lot of fun for us. Final, final question. As far as Oklahoma back on the schedule, what do you think, bedlam back? You want to get it back? It's just so hard now.

And I think, yes, I mean, we'd love to play. and I went to Bedlam this past weekend in basketball and the atmosphere was electric. It was in Oklahoma City. Like, I think for the fans in the state, like from an economical standpoint, like it makes so much sense. At the same time now, you know, you look at these people that are in the playoffs and stuff. Like, I don't think people are getting rewarded for playing these non-conference games when you look at, you know, the big paydays at the end of this thing now. and, you know, in our conference, like, if you look at some of the teams, I mean, Texas Tech's in the playoff right now, and their non-conference was not very strong. And so there's going to be so

many new ways to look at this. But just for the state and for the people, the alumnus of both places, I think it'd be awesome to find a middle ground and be able to play that game once a year. I mean, I'd rather, like, we play Oregon game two next year. Like, I mean, I'd much rather go down the street or then come up and let's, you know, battle this thing out on the gridiron. Yeah, that's a haul. We went to Oregon. That's a haul to get up there. Holy crap. Coach, rooting for you, really. I like Oklahoma State. They beat the crap out of my team last couple of years. But rooting for you. Congratulations on the job. And have a happy holiday, coach. Bobby, I appreciate you, man. See, Coach.

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He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat. Just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be. Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck.

Listen to Thanks Dad on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As we look at the NFL games this weekend, do you care it all about the Cowboys? Not really. You're out again? No, not really, dude. I mean, I'll watch a little bit of it. Mike, you? Nah, I think I'm done after that loss.

It's terrible, dude. It's heartbreaking. I mean, you watch the Minnesota game and you're like, all right, this would be pretty easy. Let's go. And then they play like that? You're like, why do I want to watch the rest of the season? game and the Cardinals the game? Yeah, stupid losses. So then where does your sports viewing go? Oh, I'm going to watch a spurs now, baby. Let's go. Go Spurs, go. Regular season spurs.

Yeah, they're good. They are so good. They did lose the cup though. It's all right. You know, did you see the video of Wemby Crying? I guess he was going through some. Because he lost a cup? No, he'd lost like a friend of his. Oh, yeah. He did say, yeah, I lost someone. I saw him in the press conference. So, I mean, you see that. You're like, I mean, I get it. You're not playing. And they didn't play him a lot. He didn't even start. So the fact that they were in the cup, they beat Oklahoma City. I mean, pretty legit, dude. They're so fun to watch, which hasn't – they haven't been fun to watch in a long, long time.

So it's pretty cool to see it. Yeah, they're very young and they're very good. Yeah. It's a whole different team too in Winby's out there. Yeah, it really is. Dude, I saw them have like four blocks at one point in a row. Boom. Nope.

Uh-uh. Get out. So you're done with the Cowboys. because they could make the playoffs. I know, dude. I know what, there's a 2% chance. It doesn't. If they win out and the Eagles don't,

maybe even the Eagles can win one game. We win the division. That'd be so stupid. And then for what? To lose the first round again? But it doesn't matter. That doesn't matter. Just get there.

I know, dude. I know. And you know what? I think TikTok is pissing me off on purpose. Go ahead. They're giving me like videos of Dak and his family. Like, oh, holiday seasons, Dak and his wife. like, oh, there's the baby,

Dex being a dad. What? Stop making you like him? I don't want to see this. Stop making you see him as a person. Yeah, I don't want to see that. You know? Like, you want to objectify him as only an athlete that makes you happy or sad.

Stop showing the true depth of a human. Wow. Yes. Show me shot of him alone alone in the practice field, like going in a target, you know, and being like getting better. Don't show me him. Oh, okay. But you want to see him getting better.

better all the time. Yes, man, working on it, you know, or like just hand on head, you know, like looking at the playbook and making notes. You don't want him spending time with his baby. You want him watching film. Yes. Okay. Okay, so I put the Cowboys in, end of the calculator. If they win their final three games. This is before I put in the Eagles. Just if they just win the final three games. And they're playing the Chargers, Washington, and the Giants. And I think they can win the last two. Possibly they can be the Chargers. The Chargers are playing for something. Yeah. If they win the Chargers, they win the

the last three, they're at 4%. Wow. Four percent. Now. So you're saying there's a chance. I am. So if Washington beats, let's say they win their three. If Washington beats Philadelphia, you're now 12%.

Week 17. If Buffalo beats Philadelphia, they could do that. You're at 22%. Oh. That's with the Washington win. If Washington wins week three, you're at 100%. Dude.

Yeah, we're in. If you went all three and the Eagles lose all three, you're in the playoffs. Whoa. 100%. Come on Marcus Marriota. One week at a time. Dude, this is like, hey man, you see the hot girl over there? You have a 2% chance to be with a hot girl.

Like, what? Why get your host up? But two people get to be with the hot girl. So why not you? The fact that you're giving up while you still have a chance. Yeah. Wouldn't you, though? No.

If this were Arkansas. No. I wouldn't I give up. If we got a chance. up in a chair, I'm still in. Why not us, bro? I mean, I'm so frustrated with Jerry Jones, but like, why not? We can do it. Why are you frustrated

with Jerry Jones? I've always been frustrated with Jerry Jones. I can't stand him. People love to jump on Jerry Jones. Remember, I was telling you the ref? Do we have three Cowboys fans on this show? Yeah. Yeah, you didn't know that? Well, four, including you. I did. I'm not a Cowboys fan. But where is your cowboyness, Brandon? I grew up

in West Texas. All of my family were Houston Oilers fans. But I live like four hours away from Dallas and grew up loving Dallas. I never knew Oilers fans. Like I was surrounded. You're a real Cowboys fan. Do you get sad when they lose? Yeah. But it's been so common that it's just so frustrating, you know?

See, I'm not frustrated. Like, there's no point in being frustrated at a team that's trying to do their best and then they don't do well, right? It's fine. Every week you come in here frustrated. No? You've changed. You flop like three times. That's not true.

Some weeks I come in and be like, We're going to the Super Bowl, baby. It's a roller coaster. It goes up and down. But you know what? It's entertaining. My problem is I just need to guard my heart a little more because when they do lose, it hurts for a week. I think that's what I've done over the past few years.

I'm just like, man, I just, it's just not worth it to get all worked up when you know the outcome. But I don't like the hate on Jerry Jones. I don't like that. Okay. He's doing, I mean, he's trying to win too. Everyone's trying to win. You need them to lose all three games. I was putting every scenario on the calculator.

You have to win all three and they have to lose all three. For that 100%? Yes. Then you get in. But I was seen if there was a way if the only one won, it looks like you're just, you need them to lose all three. Okay. So even if they lose two games and we win all three. It looks like according to what I was putting in, you're still not going to make it. And that's what I'm saying.

Why get my hopes up high? Ram to Seahawks tonight. That should be an awesome game. So good. Because I bet so much on the 49ers won the Super Bowl. I need the Seahawks to win. And not because the 49ers may not get in, but I want them to get the one seed,

and there's a chance that can happen. What's the status with Adams? Is he playing? I don't think so. But I do not know. Kevin, you're the guy looking that up and he ain't here. Can you cash out? Or is it...

Is it an option? You can cash out if it presents itself to you. So I could bet the 49ers win the Super Bowl, which I did. I bet $1,000 to win $23,000. Whoa. And so I liked the odds so much. That's what I jumped at.

It wasn't so much that I think they're the team. Like, gun to my nuts. I probably ain't bet in San Francisco to win it. I've never heard Gun to My Nuts. But if you're like, look at the odds, what team do you like that can give you really good odds? It was San Francisco, because I think the NFC is just a bunch of good teams

and any of them can beat anybody. I like the Rams probably the most. But if San Francisco can get that one seat and get a buy, then you start to get the option to be paid out, the closer you get to actually making the money. Who's the favorite now? The Rams? You don't think the bills are a good bet?

Yeah. In the AFC, I think they're the team. Yeah. I mean, I think this is their year. Only because you're not going to have most likely Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, or Joe Burrow. To stop them. All three of those quarterbacks probably aren't going to be in the AFC. You do have a lot of the second year guys.

You do have Bo NICs. You do have Drake May. You do have Caleb Williams. All guys are not used to being up there. Can you imagine if the bills lose the AFC? No way, dude. I think this is their year to win it all. I do too.

I just. They're going to go in as if they don't win. And they might win their division. So, but they could go in as like even a six. Mm-hmm. If the Patriots end up winning that division, which the Patriots still probably will, but they probably won't get the one seed because Denver's set up for the one seed.

But who knows? It's awesome. Three weeks left. Yeah. I don't have a team. You do. You're a Cowboys fan. No, I'm a, we lost, we're down $5,900.

Dude, no kidding. What about your Panthers, man? Is that? So here's the thing. I keep pounding for life. obviously. That's all I do. 100%. You're a pounder. Nobody pounds like me. I've been pounded every day for years.

So the problem is we have the Buccaneers in our Money League and we're down $6,000. And we need them to go to the playoffs. We need them to not only go to the playoffs, but win this game. Just for that. So your fandom is, you're not even thinking about your fandom. Nope. It's all about money for my guys

Eddie and Kevin. Please, man. We need this. I get it. So we need the bucks to win this week. My kids need to eat. Have you told your wife yet? You're down this money. No, no, no. I'm not telling my wife. That's my line when I'm at the casino, you know, and the ball's rolling.

I'm like, guys, I need this. I need this for my kids. And the dealer always looks at me. He goes, you probably shouldn't be here then, man. Come on, man. 21 red, dude, for my kids, please. Anybody see the Bill Belichick with his girlfriend, a new picture in Atlanta at the cheerleading competition? No.

I didn't see this. Mike, you see it? Yeah, it looks weird still. It looks really weird, too, because our face is painted. the picture of them together. She had like pain on her face because that was like her outfit. Oh my gosh.

The first time I fully felt Grandpa, granddaughter. It was very much Grandpa vibes. Yeah. And let it rip. Ain't nobody doing anything wrong. Let it rip, but it is weird. It can be weird and not wrong.

Does she have like face paint on? Yeah. It looks like a kid at her play. It does, yeah. So what is it? Her competition? Yeah, the adult cheerleading competition. Oh my goodness.

Bill, I didn't know that was a thing. Well, that was where They saw him the last time became a new story. He was just sitting there watching her to adult cheerleading competition. Wow. And because they're not real people to us, it's only weird when we talk about it. Imagine you see them together like kissing.

Yeah, dude, that's weird. And you don't know. And you don't know that's Bill Belichick. You don't know the story, but you see like a 24-year-old kissing a 75-year-old. You're like, Grandpa kisses his kid weird. Yeah, that's messed up. That's a little weird.

But more than that, I think the family, like, How does the family, like, say you're just a cousin. And like a cousin of hers and being like, oh my gosh, what is happening? Well, you know what's happening because you probably know her. And if you know her and that she has a history of, like, get that money. She dated another older rich guy, a lot older rich guy before Bill Belichick. Dude, and he thinks he's in love. Yeah, dude, I'm sure he's so aware.

He's aware of what? It ain't love. I'm sure he's so aware. So he's just kind of like. He's in it too. I probably do have a relationship and it's great, but I think even he's aware. I think they're both aware. It's a symbiotic relationship. They're both getting something from each other and they probably do like each other and they may even love each other. But how much, if you're 24 years old, can you actually romantically love a 74-year-old guy, I'm not sure his age, knowing he's going to die in 10 years. You can't even fully invest your heart and soul because you know there's not a life together. So even if you do plan to fully love them, there's part of you that's keeping you from because you know they're going to die soon. Yeah, yeah. Mike, he's 73. her ex was 64 and her dad is 49.

Whoa. Dude, it's like you is her dad. I'm 46, but yeah. I see what you're saying. It's messed up, man. The new head football coach at Sacramento State used to be a backup dancer for Emcy Hammer. That's cool.

Sacramento State has found its next head football coach. His name's Alonzo Carter, he joins the Hornets from Arizona where he had been the running back's coach and assistant head coach for the Wildcats. Carter was an assistant coach at San Jose State for seven seasons. he's also a former backup dancer and choreographer for MC Hammer. Dude, those guys went hard though. Do you remember those dancers? I saw the video. He did the dance in front of the team.

I didn't see the video. That was great. I liked the introductory, hey team, what's up? That's hilarious. Alonzo Carter replaces Brennan Marion, who went 7 and 5 in his one season at Sacramento State. Marion left earlier to be the offensive coordinator at Colorado. I did see two not to stay so Nashville-centric, and we don't because the Titans suck. But Cam Ward wants to be involved in the head coach search. I don't think I let my rookie

quarterback and my second year guy be that involved in the head coach search. I mean, you can make him feel like he's involved, right? I mean, it's better than Amy Adams strunk in the whole ownership, you know. Is it though? I don't know. Yeah, it's a bad organization. It's just a mess. I also saw somebody's house got robbed.

Who was it? Oh, yeah, Jeffrey Simmons. Jeffrey Simmons's house got robbed while they were playing. So we talked about that in the NFL show. And I asked Castle, like when you play, did you have? somebody that would stay at your house because if I'm ever on the road if I'm ever gone we have somebody at our house yeah for that exact reason with lots of guns if it's known that I'm gone I need somebody to be there because it's known I'm gone so if we're gone somebody's always at our

house and if you're an NFL player I would think you would have somebody at your house however if you don't I would think if you're breaking into NFL player's house when he's gone you would think somebody was at his house for that same reason so my theory is it wasn't somebody who just knew he was gone from seeing it on TV it's somebody on the inside inside that knew. Nobody was there. Not only was he gone, but that he didn't put anybody in his house because you would think there'd be alarms or somebody in his house.

Yeah, he's robbed of all kinds of stuff. Dude, the more I think about just robbing houses, you know, like, I think every time I'm in an Uber and I'm going to the airport, you know, and like, they see me lock my house and they know no one's in there and I'm, they're like, hey, where are you headed to? Oh, I'm headed to New York

for five days, you know, like, that's the easiest like, all right, write that address down. They will be gone for five days. But you don't know if somebody's going to be there or not. So it's probably, hmm, can I even break in? It's not the whole family. It's a home alone band. Because I think then, yes.

But if one person's gone, you probably still assume that somebody's going to be there. Especially if it's just one person. That's why I think it's really inside, not just somebody random knowing he's gone. Yeah. Because I would think somebody would be there. Yeah, it sucked. Could be that gang that did Joe Burroughs. And they were from another country.

Yeah, I don't remember what country was. That's why I refrain from saying a country. Mike, what country were they from? I feel like, and I will not refrain, I feel like it was a Latin. I, for some reason, Chilean gang comes to my mind. It was Chilean, yeah, South America. Latin.

Yeah, Latin. South America. And then they get pulled over and they got all Joe Burroughs stuff in there. Shirts, yeah. Jersey. You see from the cop cam when they like pop down the back of that SUV. This dude's got a Bengals town. LSU national championship.

Yeah. Okay. guys. You obviously did it. That is it. We appreciate you guys being here. Thanks again to Coach Morris for coming on with us. Go Spurs Go. Yeah, regular season, though. In basketball. Did you watch the cup?

No, I watched the clips, especially at the Knicks. And one of the players, I forget who, maybe Bronson stuck his butt at this time up to other guys' butt as they were celebrating. Oh, and somebody said, I saw the caption. It was like, Canberley, I caught this in camera? Yeah, and it's just dudes being dudes. Like when you flick nuts They were doing on court They had the trophy

Who is it? Josh Hart Josh Hart does what It puts thumb up Jalen Brunson's butt Yeah yeah They're in their clothes And he's shot

I feel like Jalen Brunzen wouldn't like that Or Jalen Brunson really likes that You remember when we used to play golf Yeah She had the club in the bow Every time we'd bend over to get the ball

He shoved the club right in the butt It was terrible dude Yeah we're acting like Oh that's crazy We did the same crap But they were right in the trophy ceremony Josh Hart tweeted, it was AI, and then the next post is, oh, dang, it's in 4K. And from 80 different angles.

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