The Bobby Bones Show - 25W: Bobby Calls Eddie Out for Being a Liar + Brandon Marcello Talks New NCAA Settlement & How it Creates New Ways to Launder Money for Schools + Bobby Makes a Pitch to the New Professional Softball League

Episode Date: June 9, 2025

After making a comment on an Instagram post, Bobby calls Eddie out for being a liar when it comes to his average golf score! And national college football reporter, Brandon Marcello joins Bobby to give a rundown on the big news that happened over the weekend with the NCAA settlement case. Brandon says this will continue to get ugly before it gets better, and he and Bobby discuss new ways for schools to launder money “legally” with the new system. Bobby makes a pitch to the new professional softball league (AUSL) on how they should run the league to be successful.    Download the DraftKings Sportsbook App today: https://dkng.co/bobbysports   If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/MI/NJ/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/NH), 888-789-7777/visit http://ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 1-877-770-STOP (7867) (LA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), call/text TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA).   21+ (18+ WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/LA/MI/NJ/ NY/PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. N/A in NH/OR/ON. New customers only. Valid 1 per new customer. Min. $5 deposit. Min $5 wager. $200 issued as eight (8) $25 free bets. Ends 9/19/22. See http://draftkings.com/sportsbook for details. Follow the Show: @BobbyBonesSports   Follow the Crew: @MrBobbyBones @ProducerEddie @KickoffKevin @MikeDeestro @BrandonRayMusicSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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toughest four-game stretches in the NFL coming up, according to Greg Alman. Number one is a Dallas Cowboys. Oh, boys. They have a four-game stretch of the Eagles, into the Chiefs, into the Lions, into the Vikings. That's got to be November, huh? Weeks 12 through 15.

It's going to be tough. That's ugly. Number two, it's the Vikings. But sadly, the Cowboys aren't part of their rough four-game stretch. We figured that much. Rude. That kind of sucks, dude, because the Vikings are in the Cowboys. It's like, back in the day when you were a kid,

you're like, yeah, my best friend's Mike. And then you got a Mike. You're like, Mike, who's your best friend? Tommy? Tommy, and your name's not Tommy? Oh, no. Vikings have Eagles, Chargers, Lions, and Ravens. That's tough.

Browns at number three. Ravens, Packers, Lions, Vikings. Yeah, that cowboy stretch is tough. Yeah. Eagles, L. Cowboys, no, no. Chiefs, L. Lions, L. Vikings.

Maybe. Possible Dellie there. Three and one? I mean, anything can happen, right? One and three. What do they say? Any given Sunday. man.

Yeah. That's a movie. Do they actually say that? Yeah. Any given Sunday. Yeah, I saw that. I thought I'd bring it to start the show with. Thank you.

I'm in a good mood right away. You're welcome. I am not the reason you lost your Texas Tech softball bet because I told you not to do it. We all did it collectively. But I didn't tell you to do it. Yeah. I never, no, no.

Ride or die. No, I don't subscribe to ride or die in bets. Unless it's me betting my own stuff. That was just a tough start to the weekend. Yeah, it's a tough one. You know? And then Mike was the win. out of all of that. I don't know if he bet, but

his team won the whole thing. Yeah. Congrats, Texas. Yeah, I didn't bet on it though. They just threw that pitcher all three games. Right. I realized afterwards, I only bet the over. Oh, you hit it. So I hit it. Yeah. I actually won. Good for you. I thought I lost, and I'm like, oh, dang, and I checked.

And I'm like, oh, cool. Actually, I just bet the over. Sweet. Yeah, it's a great feeling. Thinking you lost. And not just winning, but realize you bet something totally different because your finger pushed the wrong button. Yes. Do it all the time. That is a great one. So, yeah, we lost that one. But the good news is Arkansas is in the

College World Series. You just killed Tennessee. Two in a row, get out of my way. It's ugly. I watched that one on Sunday. It was ugly in a beautiful way. Yesterday? Yeah, yes.

The Grand Slam. I was like, oh, it's over. That's what I said to my wife too. I never say anything's over because I've just been an Arkansas fan too long. As soon as you hit the Grand Slam, because it was like 02. Yeah. It was 02 or 1-2. And I was just about to ask chat GBT, what are the odds in an 0-2 count that the battery even gets on base?

Because I was just curious, because they drop dramatically if it gets to 02. And then he ripped it, went right over the wall. And I was like, that's game, game over. Did you get a result? What were the odds? I didn't know, I didn't get to it. You didn't finish it? No, I was just about typing in because it was 02.

And then he had a home run and I forgot all about it. I was like, ballgame. It's funny that you lost your interest after you saw it. I know, because that one was 100%. Yeah. So that happened. Arkansas was into the college world series. That was fun.

That's a good sports weekend and Thunder won last night. Easily. They were up like 15 at the half and I was falling asleep. and I thought I cannot go to sleep because I'm going to miss the Thunder losing. Every time I fall asleep, the game gets out of control. And so I stayed awake a little bit longer and I woke up this morning going, oh, great. And then they ended up winning big time. They've been covered.

Nothing changed. Yeah, it was 11. Yeah, I think that was it too. So Thunder wins 1-1, but the Pacers are ahead in the series. They got one on the road. One on the road. So now we're going to go to it. And the thing is, I like the Pacers because they're a small market team.

We went and worked out with them, love them. I know. But the Thunder are the same thing. I mean, they're small market team. It's my wife's family's team, all that. So I'm still rooting for the Thunder. But if they lose, the benefit is Eddie who has to wear a thong. Yeah.

Yeah, first game one took the thong out, getting ready for it. And then I put it back last night. Ironed it. Back in the cabinet. Where do you put it at? My drawer. You don't have a thund. With all of your other boxes.

No, I don't have a thong drawer. I don't have a thong. You don't have a thong. I turned on the PlayStation and started playing PGA golf a little bit this weekend. Let's go. And so I started playing and I now can see how kids can get into so much trouble with the end game buying. Oh, yeah. Because there are two ways on this game you can get a lot better.

You can win so much from scratch that you slowly get enough coins to buy the better equipment. But I can see being 12 and going, I just want the good equipment so I can get better really quickly. And I probably, I spent like 88 bucks. just to buy a set of clubs. Wait, that's an actual thing. That's great. Oh, yeah, dude. On the game, like, you buy new clubs.

And not just to look good. Not just to look good, but they actually are better clubs. And you can earn them by playing hours and hours and hours. And, like, I'm in the corn fairy right now, but my clubs suck. And so I was like, I have money. I'm an adult. I don't have to ask permission. So I spent $88 in coins to buy a set of clubs.

I can see if you're a kid, though, not only the clubs that make you better, But the clothes, spending, you look good. No, no, but actually the clothes make you better too, right? No, they don't. Oh, they don't? No. Oh, okay. They can make you feel better.

Like confidence points or something? You know, you're just, feel good. Feel good, perform good. The Deon effect. What does $80 give you? Like, not specifically, but are you going to jump straight to PGA now? No, you just get better clubs. Like the, I started with like the factory wood.

This is so lame, but I'm just going to tell you, I really had the moment of I see where kids can get in trouble. Yeah, but they don't have their own money. This is foreign to me. I didn't even know this is a thing. Yeah, so I had like to factory woods, factory irons. And just like if you were to go and to play it against sports and buy an old set of clubs from 15 years ago, they just don't have the technology of the new ones. So that's how they make these clubs when you very first start out. And you have to like in the amateur, you have to qualify to hopefully get on the corn fairy.

It's just so hard with the clubs where your max drive goes 240 and people are going to 270 and 280 past you, which makes a harder iron shot. And your iron suck. So you're like, man, I could get a lot better if I had better clubs, just like in real life. So I spent $88 and got like $4,500 coins, and I bought a set of clubs. And then I was going to buy like some clothes. And I'm like, what am I doing? I might not play this game again. That's a nice polo.

And I just made the note of... The clothes. That's dumb. I wrote, spending money on PS5. I see where kids get in trouble doing this. Yeah, pay to win, baby. Except if they're playing with their friends and they want to look better. Like skins, whenever you're playing Call of Duty or you're playing Fortnite, like all of that.

Now, my son gave me, he came to me last night with a $5 bill and said, dad, I need something for 2K. I'll give you the money and then you buy it. Because he doesn't have an account. Like my account got hacked so I don't put my credit card on there. So now I have to manually go in there and put my credit card for any purchase they want, which is awesome because they don't do what you did and just click a button and like $80. Got new skins.

But yeah, he bought something for $5 last night because it was going to make him better. Now you can play from scratch and you can earn everything, but it's just going to take you 10 years. What's the fun in that, though? Well, the fun would be building something. I just know I probably wouldn't play much, but I've played a bit, I've played a few times this weekend. I just need something when I wake up at 2 in the morning and I can't sleep that I can just veg out on. And that PGA game's pretty fun. It's like the Masters you try to get there.

I'm still on the corn fairy. Yeah, yeah. I've only made the cut on the corn fairy once. I've played four rounds. I got cut both times. And then my new clubs, though, I did make the cut at least. I think I finished like 44. Do you play a full 18?

Yeah. Okay, simulated. No, you play it, right? Simulated. Like, as soon as you hit it, like, you go to the next, I don't know. Do you know how golf works? Yeah, but I haven't played the video game for so long. It's like playing basketball or football or anything else on the game.

Same thing, no, full 18. Playing by yourself or with other ones or what? I don't play online. Okay, okay. But I don't know how you'd play that online because you have to be timed specific to start a tournament. Where basketball, you're on a lot. I don't know.

Yeah, okay. Could you play as an existing PGA, player? Yes, if you're doing, and I'm not going to spend any more time talking about this, but if you're doing, like, play now, you can be a Shuffler, you can be whomever and do it, yeah. But you can't be like John Rom because he's part of live. I don't know. I didn't go through it. Interesting. You could be speed, you can be whomever. I don't know if it's PGA. I don't know if it's people who can just give their likeness. I don't know. Because it's EA sports. It can be people just sell their likeness to EA sports. But it's pretty fun. I think if you and I got on it and played it

together. We'd have a good time doing it. Okay. No, you don't play games. I still have my console, though. Yeah, but you don't play. And I could. You don't play. By the way, I saw a comment. I almost didn't. I'm going to bring it up. Uh-oh. Here we go. You look triggered. Not triggered. I just think that you're a liar. Who me? Oh, all you're talking to me? Yeah. Oh, wow. Wow. That's quite the accusation. Well, I think you're misleading in your comment. And it's about golf. And you wrote it on

Instagram. Anything come to mind? Mm-mm. I wrote a comment on Instagram? Yeah. And I thought it was kind of misleading. Was it your page? It was either mine, probably mine or maybe yours. Was it a comment to our golf trip?

Kind of, it's a comment to somebody that wrote. So there's a picture. It was either something I posted or something Eddie posts. It doesn't matter. Oh, the score. Okay, this is what Eddie said. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Someone said, Eddie, how did you play or something he wrote 89?

Because Eddie and I both shot at 89 on that course. Correct. the guy said something like, oh, I thought you'd play better. He goes, well, my arm's still broken. I'm still healing from it. Eddie's not better than an 89 player in his life ever on a new course. On a new course. You're not.

You're not. I'm not either. I've shot 78 and I'm not better than an 89 player. Since I broke my arm, which is accurate, I can't, I'm shooting in the hundreds now. Okay. Which I've never done before. You shot at 89 and he said, I'm still working out my arms. I only shot at 89 now.

That was so misleading to make you think he's some 70s golfer and he's not. You're not. I'm not a 70s golfer. So admit that you you were the opposite of sandbagging. What's the opposite of sandbagging? Rock bagging? Sure.

Is something heavy? Hell bagging. Sand cupping? I don't know. But you made the guy think you're a lot better except for your broken arm and that 89 is a low score for you. Not true.

89 is about what you would shoot were the healthy arm. My point was if my arm was healthy, who knows what I could have. That wasn't your point. And I do know because I've played with you a hundred times. I could shot on the six.

No, you couldn't have because you never have. This is like Daddy hit mama, man. You feel uncomfortable? I saw it like a week ago and Eddie was like, yeah, man, my arms only shot 89 this time, but my arm's still healing. And I'm like, dude, if you had the healthiest arm in your life, you wouldn't have shot better than 89. Yeah, absolutely. No, no, not generally.

That's my point, though. You wouldn't have. Because I've been playing way worse after I broke my arm. The hoot. I'm telling you, man. I know. I could have shot in the 81 even. It wasn't about your broken arm.

You got tired playing the part three and you were like... Well, that was a part three. We're not talking about that. Yeah, yeah. If you were to shot like a hundred-something and said that, then that's normal. Then you'd be like, oh, okay. I'd have been like absolutely accurate. But he shot his normal score that he normally shoots.

Yes. If I shot it, I shot at 89 the day and I was like, I feel pretty good. Yeah. Never played this course? Yeah. Great. Could I have shot better? Sure.

Would I have like to have shot like an 84? That's like a really good round for me in 84. And I'm not good. But I was like 80... 80... And I'm not... Stop, just stop. I'm triggered because you're a liar.

It's funny is how you interpreted that. Okay, I'm just going to find and read it then. And then we can all interpret it if that's what we have to do. Yeah, let's get into it. You may go to... I think it was on mine because I posted something and then... I found it here. Okay, Mike, would you please read what happened?

Someone asked them, what you shoot. He said, 89. I'm still trying to get back to where I was before I broke my arm. That's where you were before you were. I was there. That is. That is. That is. That's the average. No, you wouldn't have. That's the average of where you were before you broke your arm.

I feel like I played a great. Listen, I feel like I played a great round that day. A great round, despite my arm still not being where it used to be. Now, when you say not where it used to be, does it hurt? Or do you feel like it's not as flexible? Like, what does that mean? Honestly, ask Brandon, like, there was one swing where he heard it like popped. I did hear a pop. And I haven't seen your, the swing. before? I'm telling you he shot the same scores. Okay, well, don't trust him, Brandon. Keep saying, keep talking. I did hear it pop. It was an abnormally loud pop. Yeah. You're in here on my

stuff pop? Yeah. My stuff pops every time I swing. I don't know. January. That's true. My knees popped like... I tore the cartilage out of my ankle. I tore my shoulder. My rotator cuff, I tore like... So we all have stuff. That could have been your back or your knee. Who knows? I spent too much time talking about this. I should just said

89 and left it there. Yes. We're like, 89, but you're like, you're trying to like... Still trying to get back to where I was. That 84. Moving on. This story in New Mexico about the kid that peed in the water cooler the other team. Oh, no. So I want to read you the story, but also my mind's blown.

So they've already, they're not charging him. So I want to tell you this to begin with. A 16-year-old junior varsity baseball player from Rio Rancho High School, New Mexico, admitted to urinating in a rival team's water jug. This is during a game against La Cueva High School. This is back in March. The incident led to the suspension of the entire Rio Rancho JV team. The Sandoval County District Attorney's Office decided on June 3rd not to pursue charges,

stating that the act did not meet New Mexico's legal definition of battery. Technically, I guess not. No, no, you can do anything to anybody's food in New Mexico, basically. What on earth? That's just insane. Poison them, okay. A 16-year-old junior varsity player from Rio Rancho High School, Mexico admitted to urinating. The Sanibald County District Attorney's Office decided not to pursue

the charges stating that the Act didn't meet the legal definition of battery, which requires unlawful touching in a ruder, insolent way. The decision has upset some in community who worry it sends the wrong message to students about accountability. Also, mess with people's food. They don't really have, from what I read, they don't really have food laws where if you mess somebody's food or what they're eating, drinking, consuming, it doesn't matter. They should move that up on the list of stuff to talk about. like the next board meeting, the next house meeting, whatever. Isn't that crazy that nothing is going to happen to the kid legally for peeing in somebody else's water container and they were drinking it?

Yeah, that's terrible. That's awful. You may not have the answer to this, but did they catch him peeing in it or did somebody taste it? I don't know if they drank it or not. Note to self, pack a lunch if you're going into Mexico. Rio Rancho. Bring your own food. Ain't doing it.

Yeah, that's crazy, huh? Hey, what do you think about that Giants fan? Oh, dude. Well, I mean... Tell them the story. That is crazy. Do you guys see this? I think they're playing the Braves in San Francisco and they, the Braves throw a, like they hit a shot out of the outfield.

The guy's on third coming home. So the guy in the outfield launches it to home trying to get the guy out. And then another ball just shows up. Oh, no. So at home play, there are two balls flying in the air. And you can hear the announcer go, oh my gosh, that clown, some clown in the upper deck just threw that ball down there. Which players are like, this is so dangerous. Yeah.

Like we could all get hurt down here or whatever. No one has gotten caught for this. They don't know what fan threw it or what. It came from behind. Yeah. Okay. He threw it over the net and it landed right around home plate. Dude, the timing was amazing.

Yeah. They should kick the guy out because it's a guy and definitely a woman. For sure. Once they figure out who he's now banned, three-year band. They have cameras all over there, right? Because it was from in the stadium. Oh, yeah. He didn't throw it over the stadium of time.

There's a camera somewhere. They'll catch him. Three year ban of any major league baseball game. If he does anything stupid again, you're banned for life. And no peeing in water jugs. No. I agree. Have you ever seen anyone throw a ball in?

I mean, it's crazy. I was shocked that I saw it and I'm like, that's crazy. And then I thought, I've never seen that before. I'm surprised it hasn't happened already. I've seen people throw balls back after home runs. Yeah. In Wrigley and the other team hits it out. you throw it back in. I love that. Yeah, but I've never seen that before to confuse the play.

That's kind of funny. That's crazy. Let's be honest, though. It's kind of funny too. If it works out, it's kind of funny. It's kind of funny. That's two balls and that's kind of funny. All right, I'll take a break and we'll come back. The NBA Finals are here and Draft King Sportsbook. An official sports betting partner of the NBA is pulling out all the stops to make this a finals to remember. Here's something special for first timers. New Draft King's customers bet five bucks and get three $300 in bonus bets if your bet wins. Don't miss your last chance to bet on the NBA this season. Download the Draft King Sportsbook app.

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they do something to this bar in Omaha where the team that buys the most jealous shots ends up winning this thing. It's not a real trophy or anything, but it's tradition that you kind of award the team that gets the drunkest, the championship at this bar. And every year they keep up with the team that's ordered and drank the most jello shots. And it was novel and real. for a while, but then it just turned into rich people buying a bunch of jello shots and now it's stupid. And so people want the bar to go, no, if you're not going to drink them, eat them,

maybe eating a jellate shot. Maybe a little bit of both. Yeah, if you're not going to do it here and pay for it here, then we shouldn't count it. That's what people want the bar to do. But think how much money this bar, this bar specifically is making. Oh, man. If rich people are just loading up money and throwing it in it so their team can win, if I were this bar, I would not shut down how we're doing it.

No chance. Like, yes. Is it not as fun? Is it gaming the system? If rich people do it, yes. But this bar probably waits all year for this to happen. So they can do the Jellowshot Challenge. And so I see a lot of people upset about it, but they're not thinking about what if you were the small bar in Omaha?

Yeah. They probably wait all year for this thing to happen. Oh, yeah. Have you been to Omaha? Yes. What's that like? I went to the College World Series a couple years ago, a few years ago in Arkansas was in. What do you mean?

I've just never been to Omaha. I've been to Omaha a few times, just in general. I feel like little town in middle America, not much going on. So like a counting crowsong? Exactly. Omaha. Omaha is a cool town. Creighton's there.

They have a good college sports. It's clean. When we went, we flew in and out the same day because we went to just watch a baseball game. We lost. It sucks. He got out of Dodge. Florida State beat us College World Series. No, it's nice.

It's a medium-sized. town. It's not a small town. It's bigger than I thought. Have you been? You played shows there or something? Fun stuff to do around the stadium? You don't think I went for a whole tour or something? No, you're the wrong person. No, I landed. We went and walked down, got some to eat, went to the game. We were pissed. We got back on the plane and went home. It's not a bad question. You're just the wrong person. You're asking me, if you had four nights there. What would you do each? I don't know. I have they got nothing. Brandon? It's like any other medium-sized town. I got 500,000 population.

Do you Google that? Yeah. I just did. I was like, dude, dude's a super fan. I think it's like any other medium-sized town. They don't have pro sports, but they're probably not big enough, but they are big enough to have some major college teams. How long have they been doing the World Series?

To me, it to me is just random that the College World Series is an Omaha and Brow. It's because they built kind of. the infrastructure to host it. The stadium. It's like Oklahoma City. So the University of Oklahoma didn't start winning because they didn't make the college World Series go to Oklahoma City because of all they're winning. It was in Oklahoma City because they built that park there way before Oklahoma got really good at softball. Oh, got you. Yeah. So people were like, well, they go to home field advantage. If they play it there every year, of course. It's like they built that way before Oklahoma was good. Yeah. It just so happens. Oklahoma also got really good, like the best ever. So I don't

I don't know. I haven't been there an afternoon. Okay. I'll ask some other people. You get a real answer. Are you sure you're going to ask? No, I won't. Dude, one thing that I was surprised, I used to play guitar for Brett Eldridge. Hey, shout out. Oh, big flex.

And we opened the Taylor Swift tour. Oh, bigger flex. All right, all right. Bigger flex. No, but it was in Omaha. The opening night was in Omaha at this massive arena. I'm like, why are we in Omaha? And apparently, because it's in the middle of everything, that's where a lot of tour

start because the routing makes sense. Geographically, it's centrally located, yeah. Based on Major League Baseball Historical data. I did not mean to start this, but a batting average of 0 and 2, the batter gets on a batting average of

160. Oh, this is your stat that you didn't finish. Got it. Okay, that was on Omaha. So if they have 02, about 16% of at-bats reach base. Wow. It's higher than I thought. Yeah. So let me see. What about 3-0?

Hmm. A 3-0 count. 80. I don't think anything's going to be 800. Do you know sports or no? Nah, not really. Sports? Batting average around 300.

Okay. If you're 0-3. Okay. I mean, we could do all that in between, but that's basically both sides of the end of there. 300. What's the percentage on that? Oh, no.

30%, right? 3%? Yeah. 30%. I used to play baseball with Bruce Springsteen. Okay. What a flex. He doesn't say anything else, but when he does, he has name dropped everywhere.

Everything's a flex. He says nothing until it's everything and everything's a flex. Okay, we're going to go now and talk with Brandon Marcello. Brandon Marcello, one of our favorite guests when it comes to college football. He's usually on with us a lot during the year. but we want to talk about what just happened where all of a sudden now teams are going to pay players

and they're limiting NIL deals to it has to be $600 or below or like a clearing house has to view it. So instead of me get on here and just guess a bunch we're going to talk to Brandon Marcello now from 24-7 sports and here he is Brandon Marcello. On with Brandon

Marcello who as soon as I started reading this house versus NCAA settlement I thought I shall read no more I would just get Brandon Marcello on because I just need you to walk me through this. So from the start, first of all, old athletes are getting paid, right?

Not all athletes. Old ones, though, from like, I don't know, 15 years ago or something. Yeah, for the past, since 2016, any former athletes among those power conferences and everything are eligible to be paid. And I think about 300, almost 400,000 former athletes, have opted in to the settlement, former athletes. So they'll be getting checks over, I think, the next, like, 10 years, if I recall,

and the pay range is all going to depend on kind of a formula of back payments. So football players are going to receive the majority of it, which is 75% of the about $2.5 billion right now. And then it kind of de-escalates down there for, like, 15% for men's basketball, 5% for women's basketball and 5% I think for the remaining sports. So, and this answer may not exist yet, but a player like a Johnny Mansell or a Tim Tebow, will they get more or is it all every player that's opted in gets the equal sliver based on their sport?

Yeah, based off their sport, equal sliver. So Johnny Mansell will not be getting, you know, more money, a Johnny Mansell type would not get more money. Okay. So that was the first part, a little part. But now it's, and I ask this for sports reasons, but also a. selfish reason. Let's talk this part first. I can't give a player, I think it's up to 600 bucks without it going through a clearinghouse now, right? So that affects me in that way, but also,

how does that affect these NIL collectives that were giving tons of money to players? And it's not really for name image and likeness. It neuters them. At least that's the practice of it all, the belief of it all. As you said, anything over $600, which practically every NIL deal is, it's got to go through this clearinghouse and there have to show that you're actually getting a return on your investment here if you're a booster giving that amount of money which means if I'm paying you 600 you better be doing 600 worth of work now a lot of these deals as you said for example like nico iamaliava where he was getting reportedly an eight million dollar deal over four years how do you prove to the clearinghouse that he's doing two million dollars worth of work

other than playing football two million dollars worth of work to return on that investment. So it's going to be very hard for a lot of these boosters and collectives that will still exist to a certain extent to prove like what exactly is he doing on this. But I guarantee you there are going to be a lot of schools and NIL collectives are going to start. They've already been brainstorming, trying to be creative so that, hey, we are going to pay him this money. So you bet we have to have these players actually do something in return. I think you're going to see less money obviously come from the NIL collectives toward players, but it's not going to stop the flow. you're still going to have some very big deals out there because, one, a quarterback out there,

say, in Arch Manning will be able to draw that type of money. You can get a $3 million NIL collective contract if you say you're able to sign with a Nike or even a regional restaurant chain or something like that. But you better go out there on TV or social media or something to promote that instead of just getting a check handed to you for not doing anything in return. How does this affect kids in high school, though, that have no NIL value yet? and they're getting paid at a high school to come in. Yeah, they're pretty much just going to have to be dependent on what they get with the revenue share part of it,

which is separate from NIL now. The revenue share, $20.5 million cap will then be shared with athletes. And most schools are choosing to only spread that money across about like six sports. So a lot of schools on average have about 19 sports on their campus. A lot of them are just going to share that with about six sports. Most of that money, of course, is going to go to football in men's basketball. a lot of schools are basing it off of the back payment schedule, which is 75% football, 15% for men's basketball. Other schools are choosing to follow their own revenue streams.

So, for example, if you're Tennessee, I'm not saying Tennessee's doing this, but if you're Tennessee and say 85, 86% of your revenue generated is from the football program, some schools are saying, well, we're going to share 85% of that $20.5 million cap with our football players. and how they choose to distribute that money within the football program is really up to the discretion of the schools. So if college football teams decide to kind of follow the NFL model, which a lot of them really are already, you could see a football quarterback, for example, probably fetch between $2 to $3.5 million, because if you look through the NFL, that's about the certain percentage amount that they get from their own salary cap in the NFL. So for basing it off the NFL model,

you're still going to have college quarterbacks out there getting $2.3.5 million a year. And that's based solely off of the revenue sharing part of it, not in addition to what they might get from their NIL collective. So it's a salary cap. We have general managers. I mean, it is becoming a little more, I would say officially not an amateur sport,

but a minor league, right? Yeah, it's semi. professional and listen what's so interesting about all of this is that college athletics believes that now that they have this system in place after the house settlement they've created a new college sports commission to oversee the settlement terms which they will enforce these rules they will create this nil clearinghouse to go through everything they're going to expedite rules enforcement which means that investigations that we've seen in the NCAA take years and the cc should only take months, if not weeks. And that should help with that. They provide some guardrails there,

maybe to corral this system and all the Wild West stuff we've been seeing over the last five years of NIL. But here's the fundamental issue with college athletics. Because every team, every coach, every player, every administrator is in a competitive environment where it's wins and losses and everything, just because they're putting guardrails up and new rules and a new entity doesn't mean it's going to be all that much different from what it is in the past because in the end the competitiveness comes out and every coach, every administrator is going to try and find a way to go through the rules, not necessarily break them, but to test them, to a certain extent where they could be more creative. So we've seen that throughout history of the NCAA.

You know, goodness gracious, remember years ago they created the Nick Sabin rule because of how he was finding a way to go about doing more recruiting efforts just by using WebExiB, cams at the time, you know, before Zoom and all that, all these schools are going to find ways to be more creative, right? To not call it cheating, but a way to stretch the rules. And that's the fundamental problem with college athletics and always has been, is that you don't have guardrails, so to speak, where you're punishing someone and saying, well, just kick you out of this, out of this association. The threat is there, but they never do it. And I don't think they're going to do it and under this new CSE.

You know, the last couple weeks, the big storyline has been that in the language of these agreements that they're putting together to be part of this new organization is that if you don't sign it, we could kick you out. Well, sure, but who really believes that they're going to end up

doing that? I don't see it. The NCAA's never really done it. And you're just going to find more stories here over the next couple years of people being more creative to find a way to get a running back an extra $1 million through the NIL collective by doing some type of branding deal. And I'm knowing being long-winded here, but for example, you know the last five years,

we've seen an explosion of like hype reels on social media from all the college colleges and their teams. And Bobby, they look fantastic. I mean, they win Emmy Awards on this stuff, regional Emmy Awards. And it looks amazing. And the reason why they're spending all this money for that is because it's part of their NIL collective. The NIL collective has said, hey, sign this deal with us and you give us your name, image, and likeness, and we can use yourself to build your own platform.

So they do these videos because it's their way of saying, this is what we're spending the NIL money on. We're making you bigger, your brand bigger, by doing all these incredible videos and images and everything like that. And that was a way to kind of prove it. So is there a way now that things are going to be under a more of a harsh spotlight? light that you can say, all right, let's continue to those hype videos, but like, let's create

our own like production company where we go do short documentaries or short films and we sign two or three players and say, you have to do a show with us every week or be part of this inside documentary where we'll pay you this certain amount for it and we'll just continue to put it out on our social media and it pumps up our brand and we already have the assets and the staff here to be able to do that. Again, I'm probably giving someone some free ideas. out there, but there's going to be ways that these schools can be creative to make sure they can push across

this $600 threshold and prove to the new CSE that they're getting a return on their investment. Yeah, I can think of ways to launder and ale money already just with me. Let's say... Exactly. Let's say there's a program that's a program that I care about. So we'll use Arkansas here. And they wanted to get

an offensive line that costs of $400,000. All they have to do is come to me and go, hey, dude, we'll give $50,000. Just hire him to do some stuff for you on your social to promote your things and we can pay and we'll just pay you all of it and you pay him out of your one of your bills. There's so many I got seven ideas now and how to launder.

Yeah, it's just a different way for them to figure. It's another strategy that you have to invent. But yeah, no, I listen, Arkansas, you can reach out. I'm happy to help. You got ideas. Yeah, I got a lot of ideas. Okay, so I have questions though like schools like a Creighton or schools like an Oral Roberts that don't have football. Do each university have the ability to take

whatever that amount of money is and do it however they want to do it. Under the House settlement terms, only those Power Five conferences. Got it. So they're not a Power Five. Yep. Yeah. If you're not a Power Five, you're not obligated to do that. But we have seen some schools outside the Power Five structure and some conferences say,

we're going to participate, but we're not requiring our schools to do $20.5 million. So for example, the American conference, which many people consider to be the top group of six conference out there right now. They're saying, we want you to spend, like I can't remember the exact number, so forgive me, but it's like an average of about $3 million a year to invest in all your programs and share revenue.

That's kind of what they're thinking. And a lot of other smaller schools, they're thinking along those lines too. A lot of schools are going to share revenue. It's just going to be nowhere near what the Power 5 is doing. What does house settlement terms do is that it allows them

the other schools, even outside the settlement, to say, hey, we're going to start sharing our revenue, too. But it's going to be nowhere near that big number we've seen in the Power 5. In the NFL, there's a minimum a team has to spend, and a lot of pro sports, right? So it keeps people from just being cheap. Is there a minimum with Power 4 that they have to spend? No, they have not set that because they all have the money. They all know what they're all getting paid because the Big 10, Big 12, all of them. They share the same amount of money practically with every school from their rent.

revenue from TV revenue. So they're going, we know you have the money. So it's up to you to choose whether you go up to the $20.5 million. Now, some schools probably are not going to go all the way up to $20.5 million, but most of them will because they have the money to do so. Now, the interesting thing is it's the American conference, as I mentioned, which is outside this whole settlement terms. They've decided that we have set a minimum. You have to hit this certain benchmark over the next, I think, three to five years of sharing money. Otherwise, your own membership in our conference is at stake. And again, that goes back to my earlier point, they're threatening membership. This has always been something that's been over the head of schools since the insublave is

really brought about. And will they actually enforce that if a school doesn't comply? I have my doubts. I would be interested to see a school, and I'll use a school, no offense to Mississippi State, but like Mississippi State, who's really not that great at anything, as far as football, occasionally basketball, but really not really, right? Mississippi, and I was listening to Brandon Walker talk about this. You know, they don't have any Fortune 500 companies, right? And they have two schools and they don't have a lot of money to spread out because the boosters aren't working in state.

So they only have a few rich people. That being said, I could see somebody like Mississippi State going, you know what, we're going to go all in on freaking basketball. And they could really turn one of their programs into a power program by taking $15 million and going all into basketball. And at least you have one thing that's awesome. Do you think that will be something that happens as well at all? that's the big question which school is going to be that first school to completely just almost ignore

the revenue sharing portions of the back payment schedule because again i mentioned it was 75% football 15% men's basketball rights some schools are basing their future numbers off of how much revenue their football program brings in which is probably about 80 to 85% so they'll give it to football but if one program just says we're just going to buck the train and say we're going to give 80% of our money to men's basketball, the problems that arise there is you're going to open yourself up to lawsuits, not just Title IX stuff, but also from the football programs themselves or even vice versa, men's basketball against football, because they're going to go, well, this isn't fair.

The fair market value shows, based off the revenue this program's generating, it generates nowhere in the neighborhood of what they're getting right now, and that's going to be challenged legally. Listen, there's going to be a lot of lawsuits stemming from this, lots of them. But instead of you seeing lawsuits against the NCAA or even against the conferences themselves, most of these lawsuits in the future are going to be against individual schools. So I mean, in a worst case scenario, best case scenario, whichever you want to take it, you could see like 20, 50 lawsuits launched here in the first few months of this thing. And it's, again, I think it's just going to get crazier before it actually even stabilizes.

Okay, my final thing, let's call it Bobby University. There's a school, Power 4, Bobby University. They hire me to come and do a four commercial series for them. Like, hey, come out and you be on four of our commercials, we'll give you $1 million. Now, that wouldn't be so crazy, and I'd be, okay, cool. But what the wink-wink is, you also pay $800,000 to that to different athletes.

We're not going to put it in writing anywhere, but you pay $800,000 to that to these different athletes that we think to actually promote you and what you're doing. Dude, I could launder this money legally so quickly. You just need somebody that's also of value that's not a part of the athletic program. And you're paying them to pay other people. Nothing illegal is happening. I'm in.

I'm in. It's first school to reach out. Yes. Bobby University. I mean, you're exactly right. I could see that happening and with others as well, not just you, Bobby. But the thing is, it's like, I'm so interested to see this NIL clearinghouse, like, just how hard-fisted they are against people.

Are they going to drop the hammer on people? I will say that they hired Brian Seeley, an executive for Major League Baseball, who led their legal team and in their investigative unit. So NMLB's been pretty hard in their investigations and everything. But again, that's within a professional system with a very strong set of rules and guidelines they have to adhere to. And then you've got this where, again,

players are not employees and yet still you're hearing these power commissioners saying even as early as late as today every athlete we talk to says they don't want to be employees and the reason why these commissioners don't want these players to be employees is because then they can unionize then they can collectively bargain which to be honest if that ended up happening that would actually be good for these commissioners because then you could have stronger guidelines that these players have to adhere to that can maybe circumvent fair market value, which would cut out the potential of deals like potentially your idea that you're throwing out there, Bobby. But I love the idea.

Again, for whatever reason, these commissioners don't want these players to be termed employees, which I think, again, is a big mistake. And it's just going to allow people to be more creative with how they spread out their cash and the return on investment. Well, and also, if they're employees, they could be contracted. And if there's a contract, it kind of stops the one-year-year-year- Euro basketball transfer portal type situation we have now. Am I wrong there? I agree with you. I think that's very, very likely. If you were to get collective bargaining

involved, you could say, all right, you come to us. We'll give you a two-year deal. We'll give you a three-year deal. And to be quite honest, nothing, I mean, some things maybe legally, we're stopping them previously with their NIL collectives to do that. So even for example, Bobby, I mean, you're familiar with Arkansas. Madhnea Maliaava, a quarterback, Miko's brother, comes to Arkansas and only spends the spring there. and now Arkansas saying, well, we signed you to a one-year deal, and we only got you for a few months, and we paid you for a few months just to come out and practice. You didn't play any games. You didn't actually contribute anything to our product and what we end up becoming this fall. We want our buyout money that you agree to in your contract right now, but you have lawyers representing him saying this isn't legal.

You can't do this to a player. He's not an employee and all that. but if you were to put these guys as employees, that would give more teeth to these contracts. And again, everything's going to be challenged legally because this is all new. But one way to make that so much stronger, I think, is by terming players either as employees or some special classification of employees. Say we call them student athletes, instantly created that term. Well, create a new term form, whether it's student athlete or whatever,

but allow them to have a special classification federally where they can, and quote unquote unionize or at least be represented at the table for collective bargaining and also so they have their voices heard when, you know, the CSE is creating rules and potentially that the players have no feedback on. Well, bring the players involved there and then everything will be kosher. Yeah, we're getting there. The Arkansas freshman quarterback thing is weird because it's basically a half a million bucks and he didn't play and he left. But that's as a terrible precedent for other kids to go and grab money and leave. They could just do a money grab. Like they literally could go get paid with the intention of transfer.

bring out. So I collect a couple hundred thousand bucks and then I'm really going to head to the school I really want to go to. Not that everybody has that kind of leverage to do so because I think that was an anomaly of a situation where there's a big brother of Tennessee going to UCLA. So he's also going to UCLA. But yeah, like Arkansas, listen, I talk about Arkansas, but this is specific to what happened, the occurrence more than it is my fandom. But they have to get that money back or the rules have to change or this is going to happen more often where a kid just takes the money and runs. Yeah, and that's why Arkansas is pursuing it so much. And yeah, it's a, it's a angle that very much, you know, concerns you, but it's national. I'm going to tell you,

like, I've been reporting on that and actually broke it that they're pursuing the money. And, you know, I had so many athletic administrators across the country reaching out to me asking for details of it. So, like, how are they doing it? Because we want to maybe do the same thing. Other people want to go after their money that they're losing because a lot of these kids have signed contracts that say, you need to stay. You need to stay. here through this date to get the full payment of your of your contract also if you break it early you owe us buyout money and the issue is is again toothlessness here the schools aren't enforcing those contracts they're just going well we don't want to do that because that could look bad on us

and also where's the legality in that is there actually strong legal teeth to all this and again it goes back to my whole thing since the creation of the instabla there's threats oh if you don't do this you can't be a member of this association and then they never really follow through And again, we're still in that space. And I think we're still going to be in that space after the CSC's created and revenue sharing starts July 1. Brandon, we really appreciate the time. You guys follow Brandon on Instagram, Brandon Marcello, and read his articles on 247sports.com. Appreciate the time.

I'm sure as football season comes back around, we'll have more of a regular occurrence here. We'd love to do that again. And I know we just messaged you last minute last night. So thanks for coming on and explaining it because I think I would have got everything wrong. I think I would have said literally everything wrong and that's why we needed an expert here. So thank you, Brandon. Thanks, Bobby.

I look forward to one day actually talking football instead of courtroom proceedings. Yeah, and I'm glad that's why we had you because my courtroom proceedings would have been very wrong and I would have been sued somehow for being so wrong. So Brandon, good to talk to you and hopefully I'll talk to you again soon. The NBA Finals are here and Draft King Sportsbook.

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We don't talk about a lot here, but it's really dead sports time. Did you watch, anybody watch the tennis match? No. French Open. I'm so mad. Me either. I just saw the betting odds were like plus 600, whatever it was. 6500.

Yeah, plus 650. He was down like 40-0, three sets. Al-Qura. Yeah. We were talking about him. Yeah. Whoa. Yeah, he was way down and came back and won it.

I don't know. I don't follow tennis much anymore. So, but I just saw, I lost up with the betting odds. I was like, dang, jump on that thin. Yeah, that would have been awesome. And then the UFC fight. Did you watch it? Yeah, it was a bus, dude.

It was? Well, it was a bus because I thought Omali, Sugar Sean O'Malley would win that. It was a rematch. He got submitted. Dude, he got submitted. It was a rematch. So they fought last time he got his butt beat. And then again, dude, he got submitted, tapped out.

Pretty stupid. Lost some more money. So I'm probably going to take a break again. What was that break? You're taking more breaks than you are on. Is that even taking a break? Or is when you're on the break you're taking from being off? I keep telling myself I'm not going to reload.

And then every week I reload. But like, I really need to take a break. Because I lost on that Saturday night. And then I hit on NASCAR, which I never. I'm having it. Oh my God. He took a break and went to NASCAR. That's not a break.

Listen. This is an intervention. NASCAR is doing it right on Prime, dude. So it's really fun to watch. And if you bet on it, it's a lot more fun. But I want with Denny Hamlin. Danny Hamlin, I put a couple dollars on Danny Hamlin. He wins the race.

I've got $25 to play with. And I go and look at golf. And there's a playoff going on at the RBG Canadian Open. Whatever that's called. Of course. And we all love to bet that. There's a playoff. hole going on. Two dudes.

Sam Burns and Ryan Fox. I played with Sam Burns. I know. I bet on what I lost. You would have lost. Yeah. They went four? Four holes, yeah. Four extra holes. And then he finally lost. So I lost on my money, which probably going to need a break.

Okay. Well, but yeah, I watched UFC. How much I cost? Yeah, I kind of wanted to run something by you guys. Because I did try, I have no problem paying for UFC. It's $80. I think it's worth. it. I love UFC. You get all the early prelims and the prelims are all on ESPN Plus. You can watch those. But the main card, you have to pay $80. No problem. I got on my TV, try to get on the remote.

I hit purchase error. Okay? Let me get on my computer. Scan the code. Purchase error. So I'm like, man, I'm not going to get this. But I get on TikTok and I'm not with the intention of watching it on TikTok, but I start scrolling and then you see this guy like, hey, we're live, Yeah, UFC going on right now. And he's got his phone on the TV. And I'm like, well, this is the fight. Yeah. He's streaming the fight.

So I watched the whole fight on his stream. Yeah, good for you. Nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong with that. You tried to buy it twice. Okay. And they would have pulled his feet off TikTok if they hadn't known what he was doing. Yeah, I've seen that happen before where they pulled it.

No, you're good. Hey, don't feel bad. Well, the thing is too like... Did you bet on that? I did. I did. And I lost on that fight. You need a brain, dude. I do.

But see, here's the thing. I was screen sharing it. you know where you get your phone you put it on your TV and screen share but on TikTok it's straight up right so it was kind of small on my TV and people started messaging this dude which he didn't have to stream this you know he's doing out of the kindness of his heart and people were like hey can you rotate the phone so he'd rotate the phone and then the other half people be like hey no man I'm screen sharing like well you go back up and then he put it back up it was a fight the entire time and finally I'm like man poor guy like he's just doing this to be nice and

people are just so demanding, kind of put me in a bad mood. When you were stealing the fight, I put you in a bad mood. I was like, just leave the guy alone, man. And then people were making fun of the decorations he had under his TV. Like, people were just rude.

And he had a neon sign over his TV that said it's a vibe. So people were making fun of him about that. You did nothing wrong. Thank you, dude. Thank you. I might start doing that from now on, though. Speaking of bets to wrap,

let's say if I should cash out or not. I bet a three-pick parlay, I bet $150 on Arkansas, Oklahoma City Thunder and the Chicago Cubs. $150 bucks pays $11,000. Come on. Right now, the cash out is $92, so I wouldn't cash out on that. Nope. Next up, Arkansas to win the national championship.

I bet $1,000 on that. The cash out is $1,274. The winning is $4,800. Okay. Who they plan next? LSU. But it's double elimination now. Would you cash out for $2,200?

bucks, a 20% And if they lose, you lose how much? Well, no, they have to lose twice. No, I know, but if you lose the bet, you lose how much? Oh, that hurts, dude. I might cash out. You cash out for a $200? No.

But if you have $1,000 and you're betting it, you can't be, like, wimp out. You've got to be scared a little bit. I bet $1,000. But you wouldn't, you'd be too scared about $1,000. But, like, Eddie, if you bet $5 and you could cash up for $7, like, would you do that? Oh, it'd be $6, actually. It'd be $6.20%. Okay, yeah, $6.

No, I wouldn't do that. Okay, good. Thank you, Kevin. Yeah. Good job. You put it to my skill, I like it. Yeah. So stay in it?

Stay in it. It makes more sense. Oklahoma City Thunder. I accidentally bet $100. I didn't mean to make this bet. To win 133, if they win the whole thing, I can cash out for $100 and $84. Do I catch out for $0?84. Come on.

No, okay. All right. So basically, the only one I can really make money off of is Arkansas to win the national championship. I can make $274 right now on a $1,000 bet. I don't feel like I should do it No, okay Nah man, I would have done it But

No, but if we're five When you break it down to my $5 scale, don't do it Got it All right, that's it Anything on your mind, Kevin? Yeah, the only thing really is I watched the Red Sox and Yankees Take, you know, Red So that

Aaron Judge Holm run, but I got to say like Obviously this is the big rivalry But it's just not there for me anymore It's not the same. I don't know And I couldn't even name four or five of the Yankees guys and I'm like, I don't know. Two things have happened.

One, you've gotten older. Is that what it is? Baseball's not as romantic to you because you're an older person who doesn't have. One, you see sports differently also, even though you still freaking love Boston. But now you have priorities and things. And then two, there's 162 games. Right. It's a waste.

But like even the Yankees players, I don't really hate any of them. Like, Judge is amazing. And you can't really. You're an adult, man. That's what it is. Because I don't hate the Cardinals. Yeah. You see a guy Goldsmith, by the way?

on the Yankees. He's crushing it. You can name two now. Two Yanke. Well, they have a couple guys where you're like, oh, five years ago, this guy is awesome. Mickey Mantle? Mickey, yes. Yogi Berra. The great Bambino. Yeah, yeah. Okay, maybe that's what it is. Yeah, you're getting older. You have kids, priorities, life.

He just got his kids. You just don't care anymore. All of a sudden. He's acting like you just bought a grill at Walmart. He just bought the grill. You start to see them as normal humans as well. Yeah, making a business decisions. When you were a kid, a person who had left your team, You're like screw them.

Or there was a lockout. You'd be like, screw the owners. We just, or screw the players. They should just go play for the love of the game. And then you get older, you're like, oh, it's a business. No, the players, they're getting screwed. They should stay and pick. Everything changes the more you learn about life.

You have a mortgage now? It's being a kid, man. Yeah, me too. Go back, dude. I was watching a little bit of the AUSL, which is the new professional softball league. And the good thing about it is they can still make up, make how their game's going to be. meaning you're traditionally going to leave all the rules of softball, but it's a new league, so there are no records yet.

Where baseball gets into trouble and making changes is, it's been 106-2 games. It's, quote, America's pastime. They have all this dad in history with baseball, so if they change too much, the records won't be the same. Where the NFL has embraced, okay, we're going to do more games. Okay, so OJ Simpson rushed for 2,000 yards in a 12-game season. That's amazing, but now it's 17, 18 games.

People breaking records, but they're like, whatever. NFL's like everything's changing. Records are going to get broken, big deal. Baseball doesn't want records to get broken unless they're broken with the same standard. If I were the softball league, they just started. I would incorporate normal softball rules, but I would also look at the most successful sports product right now, the freaking Savannah bananas.

And I'm not saying do flips and crap, but they need to do fun stuff. Any league, not just women's softball. If you're starting a new league right now, look at what's working in a non-traditional way and make that now traditional because it's harder to get butts and seats to anything because there's everything out there.

Yeah, that's a good take. So they just started this whole league and they had the opening in Wichita. But they're going to play them all back in Texas. It's going to be kind of like the UFL where all those teams and the UFL are all hubbed there even if they're named after Denver cities. And so they're going to play and they want it to be a success.

And I even put on Twitter, I was like, I want to buy a team. And they're like, well, right now, we're really not selling any teams. the league just started. I'm like, okay, well, let me know. I want to buy in. But you should look at the Savannah Bananas, and even how now they have like, I think, four or five or six teams, and how much fans love going to these games, because in the end, it's an entertainment product. And also, with baseball, they don't change because they're worried about old people,

getting upset about records. And in this league, they need to do fun stuff. If they were starting a new baseball league, I'd say the same thing. So it's not about women and softball. They need to do fun stuff for the fans that keep them engaged. So that's all. That's my end. I didn't really think I was going to come with that day. Send that video to them. Off the dome. I love it. Send that video to them like they care.

This is my pitch guy. Like they give a crap. Let me in. What's fun about the Savannah Banana stuff is, and I get fed some on TikTok, it's like if a fan catches the ball off. It's a counselor's an out if they want it to. Oh, that's cool. That's cool.

That is awesome. And they do trick plays. I saw they did three trick plays in two minutes all in the same inning the other day. Wow. The outfielder did a flip and caught it. It's awesome. I like how they bring the local, like, legends out, too. They brought out Troy Gloss for the Angels

The last week or two weeks ago. That was cool. They were in, I think, Charlotte, and they brought out three former Panther players, like Luke Keeckley and Jonathan Stewart play. So it's awesome. Like, they, that's the Harlem Globetrotters, and I'm not saying go that far

with a new league with series, but they need to implement some of the strategies that those type of teams are doing, because that's what people want to go. They're selling 70,000. Insane. They're selling football stadium. And they're on TV now.

To watch you. Baseball. People want to watch it on TV. Because baseball's not going to change because they're so frigging dialed into, we have to stay the same. You're going to die if you stay the same. Yeah. They change the pitch clock and they think they're revolutionary. Yeah, they're like, people won't be able to stand how crazy and aggressive we're getting.

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