The Bobby Bones Show - 25W: Bobby Hurt Himself While Preparing for MLB All-Star Weekend + Least Attractive Hobbies for Men + Why Bobby Thinks LeBron is the GOAT Over MJ

Episode Date: July 1, 2025

Bobby did a solo podcast from his house and talked about getting hurt this week because he was practicing for MLB All-Star Weekend in Atlanta. He also listed off the top 15 least attractive hobbies fo...r men, according to women. This list includes hobbies such as comic books, anime and playing poker. Plus, Bobby answers a series of poll questions someone sent to him, including LeBron or MJ, best dunker in NBA history, the GOAT of NFL QBs, and more!     Download the DraftKings Sportsbook App today: https://dkng.co/bobbysports   If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/MI/NJ/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/NH), 888-789-7777/visit http://ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 1-877-770-STOP (7867) (LA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), call/text TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA).   21+ (18+ WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/LA/MI/NJ/ NY/PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. N/A in NH/OR/ON. New customers only. Valid 1 per new customer. Min. $5 deposit. Min $5 wager. $200 issued as eight (8) $25 free bets. Ends 9/19/22. See http://draftkings.com/sportsbook for details. Follow the Show: @BobbyBonesSports   Follow the Crew: @MrBobbyBones @ProducerEddie @KickoffKevin @MikeDeestro @BrandonRayMusicSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:42 And for more, follow Timbo Slica Life 12 and TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Sports! Hey guys, me solo, my neck hurts, on my left side especially. I was at the batting cages yesterday. And hitting baseballs too, by the way. which I haven't hit baseballs in many years.
Starting point is 00:02:21 And so I go with a buddy of mine and we get there and there's like 25, 10-year-olds that showed up five minutes before us. And so they have completely taken over the cages with the pitching machines. And rightfully so. The batting cages aren't really for adult men. Whatever. There are some softball guys out there sometimes. But mostly, yeah, it's kids who are playing baseball.
Starting point is 00:02:42 And so we get there. So we decided we're going to get in one of these rooms. one of these areas where you can actually throw batting practice. And so it's him and I. We borrowed a bat and we got a bucket of balls. And so we're throwing and swinging. Two things our bodies don't normally do. And so, yeah, left side of my neck is killing me.
Starting point is 00:03:03 My back's a little tweaked. And I'll say it now. Maybe I won't be so specific. But the All-Star weekend is in Atlanta, not this weekend, but next weekend. And I will be participating in something where I have to hit baseball as far. So that is what I'm practicing for. And I guess more than practicing, I'm just trying to get to a place where I don't get there and embarrass myself.
Starting point is 00:03:27 So it's kind of the goal. But we did that yesterday. I'm a little bit sore. And again, I played rec softball last year. I played in the MLB celebrity softball game last year. And that was fun. Heck, I was MVP.
Starting point is 00:03:40 That was awesome. Really, really fun night. But I haven't hit baseball, 10 years, like a fast pitch baseball. So finally, after we threw a bunch of batting practice to each other, we got into a machine because I guess the kids left. And we put it on 60 miles an hour and just swung away. Regardless, I'm sore as crap. I'm here, but I'm going to try not to embarrass myself coming up.
Starting point is 00:04:06 And I can give you more details soon, I'm sure. I don't even think I'm supposed to say that. But it's in like a week and a half. So I really don't think they care what I say. But it will be in Atlanta. if anybody's listening to this in Atlanta and it's going to be that weekend. It's actually going to be this Sunday.
Starting point is 00:04:23 I can tell you that of All-Star weekend. And you want to come out? We'd love to see you. Would love to meet you. That type of thing. So, yeah, that's where we are. As of right now. I also was looking at this
Starting point is 00:04:36 least attractive hobbies for men to have. And I think the reason that it popped up in my feed is because I was probably doing a very unattractive hobby for an adult man, which was I was in a batting cage when there were kids all around. So probably,
Starting point is 00:04:55 I had a purpose, though, right? But here we go, the top 15 least attractive hobbies to women that men do. Number one is comic books. And I don't have any comic books. I have friends that have comic books. And I don't want to be terribly judgmental
Starting point is 00:05:16 about any of any either. these because I'm sure I have some of these. I read like five or six and I stopped and thought I would just read them as I did this segment and react to them. But women think comic books are really nerdy. It's number one at 33% here on the list. The thing about comic books is, much like baseball cards, and that may pop up later. There's some real value. If you get a good one, you get an old one, you save. Like there's some value in that. But also it's like, comic books are hurting anybody. And, there's some value in that. And, And also nerds, I'll say that because I think I am a nerd.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Also nerds end up being everybody's bosses. In school, oh, you're a nerd. Oh, you're a dork. You're by yourself. You're reading your books. Yeah, they end up being everybody's bosses. But I hear you. Comic books is number one.
Starting point is 00:06:02 And number two, cosplay. Now, I watched a TikTok video, I think it was last night, where there's this creator and he goes to these, I'll call them, cosplay fairs. where all these people are dressed up like video game characters. And I've seen them do this on a few. So it's not like I came across this one time. But there was a dude dressed up like Reckett Ralph from the cartoon.
Starting point is 00:06:27 And he goes and he has this huge tent and he's with this dude who's dressed up like Reckett Ralph. And the guy's fooling in character. And he says, Reck at Ralph, will you switch your costumes with whatever is in the tent? And the guy's like, I don't know, I've been Reckett Ralph for like the past 12 years. Do I want to switch? And the guy's like, it's up to you. once you switch, you don't get your other costume back. And so the guy's like, okay, let's do it.
Starting point is 00:06:52 It's kind of a fun video because the guy goes in the tent. And I don't even know who he came out as. It was like some dog and he had a spot over his eye and he was in. It looked like a Ghostbusters uniform. I didn't know the cartoon. But I thought the content was really fun. And, you know, I'm not going to hate on anybody going to any cosplay stuff. Because if I wear a jersey to a game, like a little bit that's cosplay.
Starting point is 00:07:13 It's like a tiny fraction. Number three, debating. You know, I don't know a single person who would say their hobby is debating. I know people who are challenging and argumentative. I think I'm one of them. And I kind of do it on the air. But debating as a hobby, I don't know. Debating as a hobby, I don't know anyone that does that.
Starting point is 00:07:33 At number three, I did see last night my wife and I went to dinner. And we were driving by the sign that said trivia every Thursday night at Corky's at like 7.30 p.m. and Corky's is a barbecue chain. And I told my wife, I was like, I'll go if you'll go. And I'd probably go anyway. But she was like, no, thank you. No, thank you. I don't want to do trivia night.
Starting point is 00:07:56 So I don't know if trivia pops up on this, but trivia night and debating, I'm going to put those in the same kind of category. I love trivia. And not to super flex on everybody, but in seventh grade, I was the captain of the 12th grade quiz bowl team. That's right. And again, I know trivia and debate. are not the same thing.
Starting point is 00:08:17 But I think for this, they kind of are. I think they fit in that same category. At least I'm going to put them in that category. But it was like the one thing in my life that I was good at, where I naturally would just show up and people knew that guy was good at that because I was a seventh grader. I was 12 years old competing against 17-year-olds. And when I was in seventh grade, it wasn't like I was dominating 17-year-olds.
Starting point is 00:08:40 But I can mix it up. I was like a rookie batting about 265, his rookie year. 265, 270, hit about 24 home runs, enough to where you go, man, respect and bright future. And boy, was it a bright future. I was awesome at Quiz Bowl. But that's the only thing in my life, really, that I've been able to do and do so well that my reputation preceded me. And I would show up to Quiz Bowl tournaments and people would be like, oh, that's the kid. That's pretty cool thinking back.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Yeah, that's nerdy too, though. Next up is drinking fourth on the list. 29%. I don't drink at all, but it does seem fun. And I've said this many times. That it sure does seem fun that all my friends can just relax and have a drink. Now, I'm not saying that and then I'm going to start drinking tomorrow. I don't think at this point I'll ever drink,
Starting point is 00:09:35 mostly because now it's like I've got a really long streak of never having a drink. But drinking at number four as part of a hobby. Number five, MTG. Now, this is where I stopped reading the list because I wanted to do it live and get my reaction. I don't know what MTG is. So I'm going to type it into Google. What is MTG as a hobby?
Starting point is 00:09:56 Confused as what that means. Here we go. MTG stands for Magic the Gathering. Got it. Which is the collectible trading card game. As a hobby, it can mean a few different things depending on how someone is into it. It's a strategy card game where players build decks and battle each other using spells,
Starting point is 00:10:17 creatures, and magical abilities. It was created in 1993. It was the first ever trading card game and is still wildly popular. It has fantasy themes. Think wizards, dragons, and elves. Ah, MTG. Magic the Gathering. Some rare magic cards are worth thousands of dollars.
Starting point is 00:10:33 One black lotus card, the Holy Grail of MTV, sold for over $500,000. That's keeping people out of trouble. I got no problem with it. nerdy yeah but again i'm pro nerd so when i say something's nerdy that's okay i'm pro nerd but yeah nerdiest crap one two three four five we're at number six on the list where 27% of women say this is the least attractive it's anime there are certain things that i realize are probably really good i've just never gotten into them because i don't have the interest but i also respect the fact that they're probably really good based on it's worldwide popularity
Starting point is 00:11:11 I'd like to walk through some of them. Soccer. Everybody loves soccer that has had soccer exposure from an early age. It is the biggest sport in the world, right? Not for me. Didn't play it growing up. I grew up in rural Arkansas. We didn't have soccer.
Starting point is 00:11:27 We didn't have a soccer team. We had a football team. We had a basketball team. We had a baseball team. But we did not have our home baseball field. We had to go play our home games at a school called Jessiville's field. And they made fun of us for it because we, were too poor to have our own field. But we did have those three sports. We did have a track team,
Starting point is 00:11:47 except we did not have a track. And mostly, it was off-season football, and Coach Gandalf made us run track. And if we didn't run on the track team, we did play baseball, we did have to do district, because baseball is usually over by district. But we didn't have track team. So we didn't have soccer for sure. But I do understand that soccer is amazing, even though to me it is not amazing. another one of those. The Spranos. Never seen an episode. I know how it ends, but I've never seen an episode. But you know what? It's probably awesome. If you start from the beginning and watch it, I'm sure that back then and probably even today, it is awesome. So many people love it that I trust and swear by it. The same thing with the Godfather, similar is a vibe, right? That it's probably awesome
Starting point is 00:12:41 and I just don't understand it. And I'm going to put anime in that category. Wildly popular. I put it in the category with comic books and cosplay. Mostly, these women are finding nerds unattractive, which kind of sucks because I'll say it again, nerds end up being the boss. But anime comes in at number six on the list.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Dragon Ball is the only anime that I can think of. I'm sure there's more. Is Power Rangers anime? No, that's not. That's humans. Is there a Power Rangers anime? Again, if I go to Google and I say, what are the most popular anime series of all time?
Starting point is 00:13:28 Let's learn something together here. Here we go. Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z at number one. They say that's the gateway anime for millions. I'm going to say this wrong, guys. So if you're an anime freak respect, but too, sorry. Naruto. It's the coming of age ninja saga. Number three, one piece. It's a pirate adventure still going strong with over 1,000 episodes. Oh, Pokemon was the one. That's the one that I probably should have
Starting point is 00:13:59 known. Yeah, I know what that is. And then number five, attack on Titan. So those are the biggest anime of all time, or animas or anime show, however you say that. Number seven, makeup. I don't know what that means. As a hobby. How would makeup be a hobby? Unless you're dressing like a woman, but that's, is, I don't know if that's a hobby. I don't know. I don't know. I don't get that one. Next up is crypto. Totally understand how women could be annoyed with crypto bros. By the way, I don't know anybody that's made any real money off crypto. Like, I've made some money off crypto except I've never cashed it out. And the only reason I made money off crypto was six years ago, I put a couple thousand dollars in because, it was the thing and I forgot about it and I put it in an account and I just forgot and then I opened it up a year and a half or so ago and it had times six or seven but if I were if I had been involved in it it the whole time I would have sold it at some point so I know nothing about crypto except what I've learned in the past few years and I've been very fortunate that I bought it and forgot it next up is
Starting point is 00:15:12 Cigars, guys that are obsessed with cigars, smoking anything just seems gross to me. And no judgment on the moral part of smoking anything. I really have, I don't care what you do in your own time. As long as you're not hurting animals or kids and you're generally nice to other people, all good. Just smoking stuff? Gross. And with a cigar, I could be wrong here. I've never smoked a cigar.
Starting point is 00:15:43 I've never smoked a cigarette. I've never smoked anything. But you don't like inhale it, right? Don't you just go, is not what it is? Ah, my cigar. Culture is very weak. All right.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Next up, clubbing. So what I'd say to this is, I think it's number 11. I think if you're over like 26 and you're still going to the club, there's a mark of like 24, anything past that, you start to go back down the mountain of coolness. But I think going to the club's cool. 20. Some clubs you can't get into until 21. Probably most. But 21, 22, 23, 24, still cool.
Starting point is 00:16:33 25's fine. But I'm saying it then stops going climbing up the mountain to that yodler. It's coming back down the other side of the mountain. So I would say clubbing at 25 starts to get less cool 26 more so less 27 if you're like 33 and you're in the club i get why women are not attracted to that weed is next and i think that's probably if that is your identity there are people that we know that make weed a massive part of their identity that's what they're known for so i would say weed funco makes the list i don't know what that is i have funco pops i have a few of them i have six me right now, three signed by Chris Stapleton, three signed by Dolly Parton. And they were both very nice to sign them because I used them to auction off or give as part of any sort of charity
Starting point is 00:17:26 initiative that I do. Not any, but some. But I bought them on eBay, the Chris Stapleton or the Dolly Parton, and then I just went to them or like, hey, will you sign this? And blindly, they were like, yeah, sure. So I get the funcos. I have a Dan Marino, Funko pop. But is that a culture? Is Funko a culture? If so, I don't know anyone in funco culture. I just know people who have the occasional Funko Pop. I've actually got a couple of myself, too. There are four left.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Arguing online at 12.3%. My assumption is that means people that are weirdos and frecos on Reddit and just get on and troll people. Porn? Yeah. The thing about porn as a least attractive hobby is most dudes who are into it, don't share their into it, which I think is why it's not higher on the list.
Starting point is 00:18:24 I think it'd be number one if more dudes are like, yeah, I'm going to be honest. This is how much I'm into it. But because most dudes are kind of ashamed of it, it's way down the list. Gambling, and I'm not sure what number we're on. Let's see. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten,
Starting point is 00:18:43 11, 12, 13, 14, 14. And number 15, it's gambling. And again, I think this is one, two, that for the most part, people who gamble a lot don't often share how much they actually gamble. I feel like I have a very healthy relationship with it. You know, one of the major sponsors over the past couple years of 25 whistles has been draft kings. And I have been, I know that if I get too wrapped up in it, I will become completely consumed
Starting point is 00:19:13 with it, just like anything else, not even that it's just gambling. But I feel like I have a fun relationship with gambling that I don't bet anything that I know I can't lose. That doesn't mean I like losing. It also doesn't mean I'm like, well, how fun was that? Yeah, you can still get pissed. But it never ruins my day. And I think at a time, I can tell you back in the day for me, 2003, the 2008, I played so much poker. Like hold them. And this is right in the boom as well. I was reading books. I was so consumed with poker. Now, poker can be anything else that I often get myself into.
Starting point is 00:20:00 I was so consumed with poker that if I wasn't reading a book on how to figure out the pot odds, or if I wasn't reading a book on watching tells on other players or playing against, I was reading books on the biography of Doyle Brunson. You know, so I was really obsessed. And I was living in Austin, Texas at the time. And there were these home games. And so you would go and at the front door, you would buy your chips, they'd give you your chips. And it was mostly tournament play.
Starting point is 00:20:37 They weren't cash games. I rarely played in any cash games. I like tournament play because everybody started off equal. And once you were out, you were out. It wasn't just somebody could show up with a bunch of money. And I'd lose a bunch of money. Or if you play in cash games, why I don't like them for the most part is people with more cash can just bully other people.
Starting point is 00:20:54 And if you're a good enough player, that doesn't matter. But I wasn't a good enough player. I was a pretty good player. I wasn't a good enough player. So I like tournament play. Everybody was equal. There'd be 24 people, 18 people. We'd go in, we'd give them $250 or something,
Starting point is 00:21:08 and then we'd play our tournament. They'd give you a little deal. And sometimes down in the basement. Sometimes you're playing like in a, I really wasn't, there weren't many basements in Texas, in different parts of the house. But you'd be playing in different rooms. And so there were a couple instances where we were playing,
Starting point is 00:21:23 in a basement or like a shed area, but people would be in all these different rooms. And I probably played nine to 12 of those. Go to somebody's house. You never know the person. It's always, you're in the small groups, a word got around. Next Tuesday we're going to be at this house.
Starting point is 00:21:46 The next Wednesday after that will be at this house. And it was almost never, I think only once or twice that ever played at the same house twice because people didn't want to get busted for doing it. and why it was illegal is because the house took a cut, just like Vegas. The house took a cut, and that's what made it illegal. You can play poker with your buddies and gamble if the house isn't taking a cut.
Starting point is 00:22:05 So we play, and I played a bunch, and I probably broke even, maybe what came ahead a little bit. I didn't keep a spreadsheet, really, but I remember there was a game I was going to one night. I ended up not going, and that game got robbed. And they made everybody take up all their clothes. so I think everybody's butt naked and they robbed the place. Nobody got shot but that's when I was like, I'm not doing house games anymore. So I started flying
Starting point is 00:22:30 to Las Vegas and that was lunchbox and I on a Southwest flight about two times a month and we'd finish the show on a Friday morning and we'd fly to Vegas and since we got that time back flying over for the most part, we'd get there around 2 p.m. I'd play poker
Starting point is 00:22:46 until Sunday mid afternoon, sleep on the plane, fly back home go back to work on Monday. and I did okay. I don't think I lost a whole bunch to where I was like, I also don't think I won a whole bunch. I did win an entire tournament one time for tens of thousands of dollars. Like won the whole freaking thing.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Which, by the way, if you're a poker player, you know, the goal is always to win the tournament, but it's really just to get in the money and go as far as you can because you do need some very fortunate things to happen, even if you're playing awesome. But that's what happened. I played that whole tournament at Treasure Island. which they may have torn that casino down now.
Starting point is 00:23:24 It was one of the big boat in front of it? Yeah, I'm not sure. But I remember lunchbox coming over and it was like noon when I started and him being there at like 10.30 p.m. because he was going into the club and then him at the end of the night at like 4 a.m. coming out and I'm still playing. I was down to like three people. I won the whole freaking thing. It was awesome. But I got a little too obsessed with poker.
Starting point is 00:23:50 wasn't so much the gambling part of it. It was the competition part of it. And I will bet on college football, I feel like a much better college football. But I never bet so much that it will absolutely ruin my day. Now, sports will run my day. If Arkansas loses a game they're supposed to win, it will for sure ruin my day.
Starting point is 00:24:13 That sucks. But yeah, gambling's way down, but I'm going to say for the same reason that porn is way down, I would imagine that most dudes that are gambling aren't telling their ladies how much they're actually gambling. Or not even their ladies, but the lady they may be dating a little bit. They're not actually sharing how much they're dating. Or I think women would be a lot more disgusted with them.
Starting point is 00:24:34 But also women can gamble too, and I'm just going from this. And the last one is Manosphere. I don't know what that is. So I'm going to have to Google that. What is Manosphere as far as a hobby is concerned? All right, Google says, The Manosphere isn't a hobby in the traditional sense like woodworking or magic the gathering.
Starting point is 00:25:00 It's more of a loose network of online communities focused on men's issues, masculinity and gender dynamics. That said, some people treat it like a hobby and how deeply they engage. Oh, is this like Andrew Tate? Like, I'll teach you how to be a real man. I'll teach you how to be an alpha. Ah, those dudes are so lame.
Starting point is 00:25:19 People treat this, and by this, videos, reading formal, joining podcasts, debating topics regularly, like a religion. That's funny. I would have never known that's what the Manosphere is. People spend hours consuming and discussing Manosphere content. They follow thought leaders, Andrew Tate, Jordan Peterson, etc. Some see it as part of a self-improvement lifestyle.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Others engage in it for entertainment, debate, or community. Sub-genres, Red Pill, focuses on power dynamics and dating. T-O-W, men going their own way, rejecting romantic relationships entirely, PUA or P-U-A pickup artist, dating strategies, and then men's self-help, confidence, money, lifting life skills. See, I have no problem if it's about health and wellness. This is me speaking here, not me reading from Google. It's just some of these are so toxic. And a lot of these guys that try to prove how masculine they are and they want to prove to you
Starting point is 00:26:24 how they can get any woman. They're actually gay. And this is how they're making up for it or trying to prove they're not. And there's so much misogyny in this. And I'm not somebody who's going to scream
Starting point is 00:26:37 toxic masculinity all the time. But there is a such thing and a lot of that happens here. A lot of conspiracy theories too. So I didn't know what this was but I think I'm kind of passionate about it now. It is important to separate the constructive parts like self-improvement
Starting point is 00:26:52 from the darker corners. So as a hobby, I guess it's just dudes trying to be more dude-like. Dude, that's wild. That's called Manosphere. That's a pretty lame name for something, but the whole point is not to be lame, right? Manosphere? That's funny.
Starting point is 00:27:14 The 2026 NFL draft is here, and the NFL Daily podcast has it covered from all angles. Join me, Greg Rosenthal, and Jordan Roderig after night one on Thursday. Nick Shook joins me night two Friday and then Sunday to recap everything that went down over the three days in Pittsburgh. We'll tell you who won the draft and which players were my favorite picks. Listen to NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. A win is a win.
Starting point is 00:27:45 A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement
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Starting point is 00:28:41 And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft. And we've got a special guest, The director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galco, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects. From hidden traits teams look for
Starting point is 00:29:03 to the biggest mistakes franchises make to the players flying under the radar, this is the insight you won't hear anywhere else. If you want to understand the draft like an insider, you don't want to miss this episode. Listen to the Sports Slice podcast on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slica Life 12.
Starting point is 00:29:22 and TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. I'm going to answer this poll here. I had this sent to me. In basketball, who is the greatest NBA player of all time? My answer is LeBron James. Even though I saw Michael Jordan. Why LeBron? And I had no time to go through and put answers on this.
Starting point is 00:29:42 I'm going to answer them off just whatever comes to mind. I think people don't credit longevity. And I don't think it should only be credited by itself. but people don't credit longevity. LeBron's like 83 now. I was 40. But he has played for so long at such a high level. I think he was second team all NBA
Starting point is 00:30:02 this last season, second team or third team. At 40 years old, also he can play point. He can also play the five. Also, his competition's better. Now I'm not somebody who's going to say you're so wrong if you pick Michael Jordan because I understand most people feel that way.
Starting point is 00:30:21 I do think if I were getting to draft one player, of all time. I would go LeBron first because again he can play all positions. He plays point go. He is so large. He's magic size but more versatile than magic was.
Starting point is 00:30:39 So I'm going to go LeBron first. Michael Jordan second. I know Kobe is the answer for three. But I may go Steph at three. Kobe at four, Kareem at five. A lot of freaking Lakers there.
Starting point is 00:30:57 number two oh this is interesting Steph Curry or Magic Johnson who's the better point guard I'm gonna go Steph because I think Magic wasn't really a traditional point guard he did a lot of great awesome point guard
Starting point is 00:31:10 things and he was so large as a point guard which made it really hard to put another point guard on him guarding him because he could then just post him up but I'm gonna go Steph I've watched more stuff I think that's probably the real reason I think recency bias
Starting point is 00:31:27 because Steph is still playing right now. Magic changed the game for sure, but Steph, Steph completely changed the NBA. Everybody's upset at the NBA because everybody shoots threes all the time. That's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, if you can build a team around one NBA player today, who are you picking? Great question. Probably Janus. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Yokic. One of those two. One of those non-Americans. They're young enough. You're going to get another decade out of them probably. And they're so dominant. I'm probably going to go Yokic. I don't know. Okay, I'll go Yokic, then Yonis, in that order. Best Dunker in NBA history. This is my last basketball one.
Starting point is 00:32:20 A friend sent me these, and there's four in four different categories. So I'm going to read these here. I'm on vacation. There's no content coming out right now. I'm going to be honest with you. I sat down to do this podcast because as I was looking through the podcast that I was listening to that I always listened to because I definitely have a series and a formula of what I listen to on what days if it's Bill Simmons or Rosillo or mostly sports or pardon my take like I know what days
Starting point is 00:32:46 they come out or macro dosing like I love those podcasts I know what days they come out and now that it's the 4th July week and everybody's like often doing best of it's really throwing me for a loop so I came down here to the microphone and I was just going to do that one segment and maybe attach it to something in a a show next week, but as I was doing it, I started to realize maybe people are listening to this who are also upset. They're not getting new content. So I'll just go ahead and do an episode here. I don't know if it's going to be an hour. I think we're 30 minutes in now. But I'll answer these questions. Foreign football. Who is the greatest NFL quarterback of all time? The answer has to be Tom Brady, I feel, because of the rings. So I think that's the answer. And I think that's a bit
Starting point is 00:33:35 unfair to say because I didn't do that with Michael Jordan LeBron, so it's a bit hypocritical. But I'm still going to say Tom Brady, if you were to say in a vacuum, you pick a single quarterback and they're your quarterback, I'm picking Peyton Manning. But Tom Brady is the greatest quarterback of all time. Tom Brady won with a different set of characters. Like he made people great. I think it was 1991. Michael Jordan won his first title, and it wasn't until Scotty Pippen got there.
Starting point is 00:34:05 don't think you ever want a title without Pippin, where Brady did win a championship without insert whomever. But again, it's hypocritical to say that. But yeah, I'm going to go, I'll go Brady. The best college football program of all time, Alabama. It sucks. It sucks being an Arkansas fan right now. Not that it's been the greatest Easter basket ever because we don't win. I've never seen a football national championship. I've seen us get close. 99. Had we not fumbled, we would have beat Tennessee, been undefeated,
Starting point is 00:34:50 going into the last game of the year, won that we'd have been playing for a national championship. Yeah. But I've not seen a whole lot of awesome Arkansas seasons. When Bobby Petrino was our head coach, we had a few really, really great seasons in a row. And that was the greatest time to be an Arkansas fan. And it was amazing.
Starting point is 00:35:08 And then the whole motorcycle wreck, So it's tough for me to pick a different program, especially one that's close in proximity, especially one that has the same letter, A, especially one that is close to be in the same color, but Alabama's Bear Bryant is an Arkansas native, born and raised in Arkansas. Got to love that. So I'm going to go Alabama because being from the south, they are the greatest traditional southern college football powerhouse? And I think probably you have to look like Michigan,
Starting point is 00:35:45 these other schools. But I'm going to go with Alabama as the greatest college football program of all time. And I think a lot of that is geography bias, or at least some of it. Who's the greatest running back ever? Man, the Barry Sanders stuff is so legit, but he never played on a winning team
Starting point is 00:36:05 and he was having to survive. It was like he was swimming to save his life every time he got the ball. I wonder how good he would have been because I didn't watch him play at Oklahoma State. Think about that, him and Thurma Thomas on the same team. I didn't get
Starting point is 00:36:21 to watch him play with like a functioning offensive line. Also, I was young even when he was awesome. All I got to watch him do was scatter and try to get yards. I wonder how good he would have been if he could just run pretty much
Starting point is 00:36:38 downhill or at least kind of downhill. And not left, right, left right, left right, left right, left right. Now go forward. So I'll probably go Barry Sanders. but I think Lidanea Tomlinson's in the mix. I'm not going to put Emmett Smith in, although statistically he does have a lot of the records. But man, I think that was just a great team
Starting point is 00:36:57 with a great offensive line. But it's hard. You're comparing decades. But I'll go Barry Sanders and LT. By the way, I have the right to change my mind in any of this because I don't even read these questions until I pulled this up. Finally, in football, if you had to pick one NFL quarterback to win a game today, who is it?
Starting point is 00:37:14 it's Patrick Mahomes, no doubt about it. That's possibly the easiest question. It's Patrick Mahomes. Although I did just watch, sped up, the AFC championship game between Mahomes and Brady, when Brady ends up beating Mahomes, and Mahomes scores a touchdown with like, I don't know, a minute left,
Starting point is 00:37:34 and Brady ends up driving down. And it's pretty awesome to watch those two guys go out of it. But, yeah, it's easily Mahomes now. All right, four baseball and then for pop culture. Best hitter in Major League Baseball history, I'm going to go with Tony Gwynn, only because the hitters that I like the most, like Tony Gwyn the most.
Starting point is 00:37:57 He's my favorite hitter's favorite hitter. And I think he was the last guy to really give 400 a look. He didn't hit it, but it was really the last guy to give 400, the 400 batting it, which, by the way, hadn't been done, and still hasn't been done since Ted Williams did it, way back in the day. And I think Ted Williams, and again,
Starting point is 00:38:14 I'm going from memory, no research here. I'm pretty certain Ted Williams could have set out the last game and had 400, but he decided to go in bad anyway. So I'm going to go, Tony Gwynn as the greatest hitter of all time. Should steroid-era players be allowed in the Hall of Fame? Yes. Because you've allowed some, but you're going to not allow others. For me, I think that's probably the most problematic thing about not allowing some in. there are some Hall of Famers from that
Starting point is 00:38:49 McGuire, Sosa, Barry Bonds, era, Roger Clemens. Like you're talking about pitchers we're using them as well. And when I say steroids, I'm talking about performance enhancing drugs. Not just drugs that make you look jacked, but drugs that allow you to heal faster from an injury, right? Any of that's performing or performance enhancing.
Starting point is 00:39:15 So I think players should be compared against other players. Also, you've let players in that were on steroids, probably without even knowing they were on steroids. So unless you did a steroid check on every player, I think players should be compared to the other players they played against. And does that suck for the players that didn't do steroids? Yeah, for sure. But do I think they should be allowed in the Hall of Fame?
Starting point is 00:39:38 Yeah, I do. The 26 NFL draft is here. And the NFL Daily podcast has it covered. from all angles. Join me, Greg Rosenthal, and Jordan Roderig after night one on Thursday. Nick Shook joins me night two Friday and then Sunday to recap everything that went down over the three days in Pittsburgh. We'll tell you who won the draft and which players were my favorite picks. Listen to NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Yep, that's me. Cliver Taylor the fourth. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life. mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast.
Starting point is 00:40:50 It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:41:07 And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all of about the NFL draft, and we've got a special guest. The director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galco, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when
Starting point is 00:41:25 evaluating draft prospects. From hidden traits teams look for, to the biggest mistakes franchises make, to the players flying under the radar. This is the insight you won't hear anywhere else. If you want to understand the draft like an insider, you don't want to miss this episode. Listen to the Sports Slice podcast
Starting point is 00:41:41 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slice of Life 12 and TikTok podcast network on TikTok. If you had to pick one DH for a game, Ortiz, Bonds, Arod, or someone else. I think Barry Bonds is the most dominant player I've ever seen in a sport. Now, I think Otani's probably creeping up. Now, Otani threw 102 the other day. I think he pitched two innings.
Starting point is 00:42:09 I think you do three pitches over 100 miles an hour. So, Otani is. doing what we've never seen before. I don't think Otani is quite the hitter of Barry Bonds is because Barry Bonds to me is the greatest hitter of all time. As far as hitting home runs with average.
Starting point is 00:42:28 I think Tony Gwyn's the greatest hitter of all time because you just didn't strike him out. And his average is way up there. But if we're also saying power, slugging, base hits, walks, they walked Bonds as much as they threw to them. But I think O'Tonni,
Starting point is 00:42:47 could end up taking over bonds. I do think bonds is the most dominant player I've ever seen in his sport. I think bonds, and I've said it before, it was controversial. Nobody agreed with me, but I think bonds was a better baseball player than Michael Jordan was a basketball player.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Boom. Final baseball one. What's the most exciting World Series you remember watching? That's easy is 2016 Chicago Cubs. Cubs fan, my whole life. Arkansas Keith Dyerd Cubs fan. I was a Cubs fan from
Starting point is 00:43:21 8 years old and I used to watch every game I think one year I watched like 153 of 162 games I never went all 162 I don't think they ever showed all 162 even though WGN did show most if not all
Starting point is 00:43:36 and they had a bunch of games in the day they used to not have night games at Wigleyfield which was crazy they didn't have lights there like in my lifetime they didn't have lights at Wrigley and I remember the game the first ever night game I remember watching it.
Starting point is 00:43:49 I remember Steve Young singing. Steve Young, the announcer, singing. Like, he had like a tuxedo on. He was singing on WGN because it was a night game. It was like the freaking Grammys. But I'm a Cubs fan my whole life, right? From the days of Damon Berry Hill, Joe Girardi,
Starting point is 00:44:07 catching Mark Grace at first. Ryan Sandberg is second. Sean Dunstan, a shortstop. I mean, third baseman, go all the back to Vance Law. and the outfield, Dawson and Wright. I mean, you could do Palmyro and left if you want, or you could do even like the center fielder when they had the rookie of the year
Starting point is 00:44:27 and the second place to rookie of the year, which was Jerome Walton and Dwight Smith, all the guys from Zabrano. My favorite player ever was Mark Grace. So all that said, I was very invested in the Cubs. And 2016 went to the World Series, and I went to game two and watched the Cubs lose to Cleveland.
Starting point is 00:44:46 and when it was game seven and again you don't know a game seven is going to happen but the CMAs had invited me to present for the first time and I believe that was on CBS I may be getting my networks wrong but I don't think I am no maybe it was ABC
Starting point is 00:45:05 I don't know what's changed so it doesn't matter the network but the CMAs had finally asked me to be a part of their broadcast to come present an award and for me you know, I'd been in town four years, and my television curve really hadn't started
Starting point is 00:45:23 to the point where it got. And so I was super honored, and I was like, for sure. It was a big deal for me to get on the CMAs and to go up on national television and present an award. And they asked me like weeks and weeks out, and I had to, a few days before the show, say, I'm really sorry, I am not going to be able to be there.
Starting point is 00:45:43 And they were like, why? I was like, because the Cubs are in the World Series Game 7 and my whole life. I've been Chicago Cubs fan, and I'm not going to miss it. And people looked at me like I had two heads, but I was not going to miss it. Like there were people, just take a half step back. The Cubs hadn't won a World Series since 2008 before that. That I've been to a World Series since 1945, right? So you're talking about history, history, that there were people who lived an entire life
Starting point is 00:46:11 and lived to be old and died and never saw the Cubs win a World Series. or heck, even go. If you were born in 46, but you had died before 16, you never even got to see them be in a World Series. So I felt like as a real fan, for me, that was the most important thing to do was to watch that game. And then the rain delay hit, and then the Cubs won. It was awesome.
Starting point is 00:46:36 It was awesome. So for me, that's the greatest World Series ever because that one was so personal to me. But what I really hope, too, is that I don't end up being that Cubs fan that never got to see a championship with Arkansas football because I don't feel like now we have the ability to win a national championship. I don't feel like from athletic director down,
Starting point is 00:46:58 I don't feel like we're there because we don't have money pouring in. Hmm. That sucks. All right, four final questions here. These are pop culture debate style questions. Here we go. What's the best sports video game athlete ever? Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:47:18 I was this video game ever, but athlete. Man, Bo Jackson and Christian O'Coye were pretty tough in TechMobile back in the day. And now I never actually had TechMobile. Scotty, my neighbor, had a Nintendo. We couldn't afford Nintendo, but he had a Nintendo. And so I'll try to go over at his house and play TechMobile, or I would get on his Commodore 64 and play Yahoo Chess. But if you could get the Raiders with Bo Jackson or the Chiefs with Christian Acoye,
Starting point is 00:47:49 Pretty tough to stop. Mike Tyson was pretty strong and punch out as well. Shaq and NBA Jam. Pretty tough. But Shaq was on Orlando, if I'm correct. Again, I just opened these questions, so it could be wrong. I think it was maybe Shaq and Penny. No, no.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Next up, most likable athlete of all time. Three questions left. Probably Steph. Especially in the era of when we know about people, because of their social media and because there are phones everywhere. I think there were very likable athletes back in the day because we didn't know enough about them except for what the magazines or the newspapers or the television shows.
Starting point is 00:48:34 Like I think the Bash Brothers were super cool as a kid. Jose Canseco and Mark McGuire, I didn't like the A's, but I thought they were cool because they could hit home runs. They had gigantic arms. They're very likable because you only saw what they wanted you to see. But in the age of knowing about an athlete, I think it's probably going to be stiff.
Starting point is 00:48:51 If you don't like Steph, you just don't like yourself as a person. Now, you can not like what he's done to the NBA because it's all threes all the time, but that's not like a Steph problem. Like Steph seems like the, I've never met Steph, but Steph seems like the nicest guy. So I'm going to go, Steph Curry. Most annoying fan base in sports. I actually just did this on the episode last week where I have a number one Kentucky basketball. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:22 So I'll do that. And then finally, if you could bring one athlete back in their prime to play today, who is it? I think it's probably, and again, this could be a super recency bias because I just talked about him. I remember Bo Jackson playing as a kid. And I remember the whole Bo knows and Bo Diddley, the guitar player. And Bo knows this, Bo knows that. And there's the card where, in the poster where Bo has on shoulder pads and he has the bat over his shoulders at the same time. and Bo Jackson was in the home run derby,
Starting point is 00:49:59 major league baseball, which was super cool. Like he was that dude. And he was dominant at two sports. Baseball. And there's a really cool video of him. I think Bo Jackson's like coaching with the White Sox. And there's another player in his son. And Bo Jackson was like, yeah, it was pretty good back in the day.
Starting point is 00:50:18 And the kid has no idea because the kid's like 10 years old. It's a cool video on TikTok. But Bo Jackson was so dominant. And I believe they were playing the Bengals when he blew his hip out. And then he was never the same after that. I would love to see Bo Jackson back in his prime, uninjured,
Starting point is 00:50:36 because I think he's probably one of the greatest athletes ever. But again, that's a lot of me talking from what I've been able to see in my life. I think if you were to ask somebody who was like 60, they might say Mickey Mantle because he was so frigging dominant at playing baseball. Now, he didn't play both sports. And I think Dion Sanders is another example of somebody, but I think
Starting point is 00:50:59 Dion was way ahead of his time. I think there are other guys like Dion now that are extremely athletic that could probably it's tough to say play two sports but if they would have focused on that probably not that Dion wasn't like the 0-0-0-0-1% of professional athletes
Starting point is 00:51:17 but like Bo Jackson was different because he was that fast but he was so much bigger and thicker and and stronger yet he was still running four-two there are reports of a 41940 Bo Jackson and again that's all handheld timer no laser timers so I'm probably going to go
Starting point is 00:51:38 Bo Jackson on that and that's it I was watching this video though I'll end on this of all of these either police officers or people in the military who are getting tased because you can't officially have a taser if you don't know what one feels like. And so it's just one person after another.
Starting point is 00:52:05 And a lot of them, they're in their fatigues or they're in their police uniform and two people are holding them one on each side. And it's like 15 of these in a row. And it's them just getting tased because they have to feel it before they can use it. That's always what I was told. That's always why people had to do the pepper spray
Starting point is 00:52:19 for my friends that were in law enforcement was that if they're going to hold and spray somebody pepper spray, they have to know what it feels like before they can actually put it on other people. So I'm going to play you some of this video. people just getting tased. That's military.
Starting point is 00:52:41 There's a bad word there. Sorry about that. That's police. Here's military. That's a big dude too. That dude's like 6'5. Military. Military.
Starting point is 00:53:02 She is taking it like a... No sound. No sound. She's looking at it. She took that taser and she just looked and she just stared. And she's like, is that all you got? that all you got now when it was over she was like whoa man she crushed it I'll give
Starting point is 00:53:15 you a few more here's police police police I'd be peeing all over myself please oh he looks like he ate a sour lemon police military dude I'll watch it's like a two-minute video I'll watch that thing taste it that taste it then they just got popped all right that's it thank you guys if you made it this far you're a 50 minute clubber. We're going to put this up on whistles. I know that a lot of the Bybone show and the Bobbycast audience doesn't come over to whistles because it's mostly just sports.
Starting point is 00:54:19 But if you made it here, maybe send me a message over on Instagram. Say, hey, 50 minute club whistles during the break because I'm going to tell you why I did this. There's nobody here with me. I had to push all the buttons myself. Had to record it. Had to send it off. I had to do all the stuff. But I did it because I did it because I.
Starting point is 00:54:35 know what it's like to be looking for my podcast and they're not there because of a holiday schedule and I hate that and I hate it so much that I wanted to for you guys that listen to us wanted you to have something to listen to all right you guys may pop back may not if I do it it probably a Bobby cast or something but you guys hope you have a great holiday week and we'll be sure to see you next week all right bye everybody theme song written by Bobby Bones that's me and performed by Brandon Ray follow Brandon on something on social at Brandon Ray Music. You can follow the show on Instagram at Bobby Bones Sports.
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Starting point is 00:55:42 over the three days in Pittsburgh. We'll tell you who won the draft and which players were my favorite picks. Listen to NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me. Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw unfills of conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated.
Starting point is 00:56:19 So let's get to it. Listen to The Clifford Show on the IHeard Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok podcast network on TikTok. This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft. We've got a special guest. The director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galco, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects.
Starting point is 00:56:45 From hidden traits teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchises make to the players flying under the radar. This is the insight you won't hear anywhere else. If you want to understand the draft like an insider, you don't want to miss this episode. Listen to the Sports Slice podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, for wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slica Life 12 and TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. This is an IHeart podcast, guaranteed human.

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