The Bobby Bones Show - 25W: Bobby Was Threatened During a Fight on Twitter + Minnesota HC PJ Fleck Explains the Reason He Can’t Watch Netflix for Pure Entertainment + What’s More Important: Winning or Having Fun?

Episode Date: October 20, 2025

Bobby was watching the Razorbacks game over the weekend when someone on Twitter decided to start a fight with him during a bad time in the game. After Bobby replied to this person, the guy had a very questionable comeback involving his own mother and threatened Bobby by saying he knows where to find him. Plus, Minnesota head football coach PJ Fleck joined Bobby to discuss the big win vs Nebraska this past Friday, why he is unable to enjoy Netflix for pure entertainment, and much more! And Eddie poses the question - What’s More Important: Winning or Having Fun? Because his son’s baseball team is winning, but he’s not having any fun.    Download the DraftKings Sportsbook App today: https://dkng.co/bobbysports   If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/MI/NJ/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/NH), 888-789-7777/visit http://ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 1-877-770-STOP (7867) (LA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), call/text TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA).   21+ (18+ WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/LA/MI/NJ/ NY/PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. N/A in NH/OR/ON. New customers only. Valid 1 per new customer. Min. $5 deposit. Min $5 wager. $200 issued as eight (8) $25 free bets. Ends 9/19/22. See http://draftkings.com/sportsbook for details.   Follow the Show: @BobbyBonesSports   Follow the Crew: @MrBobbyBones @ProducerEddie @KickoffKevin @MikeDeestro @BrandonRayMusicSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Big one over Nebraska on Friday night. He's also somebody that I wouldn't mind seeing him be the Arkansas I'm in a backward way, slide that in there. I don't want to put him on the spot or anything. Yeah, why would you do that? And I feel like right now that Arkansas job, because we did see someone else lose their job, the Florida head coach. Yeah, Napier.

We saw coming, but he won, which is weird, because he was like, I bet his next loss he gets fired, but it was like, yeah, you barely beat Mississippi State, so we're going to go ahead and fire you. Mississippi State is no slouch. They're not a horrible team. I agree. That's a solid team.

Well, I think they have two wins. I thought they started four and oh. Mississippi State? Maybe they did. I don't know. Maybe I'm just thinking every other year in the history of Mississippi State. That's fair.

That's fair. So, okay. I think Petrino is probably in the same spot he was a week before. I think a lot of the fans that Arkansas now want Petrino because they know we're not going to get anybody else because there's 84 jobs open. And our fan base is so delusional.

We want James Franklin. Well, now that you're seeing, you're seeing every job open up. Florida's going to be open. You're going to see LSU probably open up. You have Arkansas. Listen, if Lane Kiffin goes over to Florida, then you got Ole Miss again. The carousel is going to be insane. And so what I think you're seeing is a bunch of Arkansas fans go from we want Bear Bryant

or we want Nick Saven to going, well, Petronios Cap is close. So we'll take him. it's going to be interesting. Yeah, Virginia Tech, Oklahoma State. UCLA, all those. UAB, Alex Mortensen, who was Mortonson, who was Morton's kid from ESPN, Morton since passed away,

but Alex Mortensen played quarterback at Arkansas. Oh, I didn't know that. So we got all these Arkansas kids out there. Damn, they're all out there doing great things. Outside of Arkansas. Outside of Arkansas. Yeah. Okay, so let's go around the room and then talk about our favorite teams.

We played Texas A&M, and it was a good game. and we lost is a one score loss. Our defense, we don't have one, but our offense looked awesome. You can tell the team plays harder than they did earlier in the year. I mean, Petrino, maybe the guy. I was disappointed we lost.

I was happy we covered. I'm just, I'm happy we didn't embarrass ourselves because we played Notre Dame, they embarrassed us. Outside of that, well, I guess Memphis was kind of embarrassing too, but I feel like every game is close. We fumbled to lose the Ole Miss game. We fumbled to lose,

What was the other game? No. We fumbled a Memphis game. Memphis. Yeah. That's it. Who cares? Anyway, I'm done.

We lost. That's it. It sucks. I mean, the Panthers won. That's my second team. That's right. They're on a roll, right?

Three in a row? They just keep pounding. We're pounding. We're pounding. That Arkansas game, though, like, what, was a two-hour delay on that? Yeah, it was bad storm. That's why we didn't go.

It was raining so bad. But then once the game started, it was great weather, and then the fourth quarter, like, came back. Did you see that? The rain. Yeah, the rain came back. With like 30 seconds left, and you're going,

do not call this game because of 30 seconds. That'd be crazy. That'd be horrible. I got into a Twitter fight. Uh-oh. Well, because if I'm watching a game, I'm just on Twitter. I don't Twitter fight near as much as I used to because I'm not on Twitter that much. But when I'm watching a game, I'm just watching tweets as the game's happening.

Yeah. And so this dude out of nowhere. Like, I'm not even tweeting. I tweeted earlier in the week because Dan Mullen said there was a 0.0 chance that he was interested in the Arkansas job, and they should go and hire and Gus Malz on. And I thought it was hilarious because it was in a response to somebody. I like Dan Mullen. He's been on the show before. Yeah. And so

I wrote, that's hilarious. Zero.0. And I like Dan Mullen. So some dude, like two days later says, has Mr. Rob Bones ever played a sport in his life other than pickle balls? And so, you know what? It's Saturday. I'm in the mix. Let's go. Let's go. I'll fight somebody. And I have no bottom. There's no low. because on Twitter, it's all low. So I write back, hey, I played your mom.

That was disgusting. Oh, my God. Because there's nothing more juvenile. And also, that's the least personal joke you can tell as a your mama joke. Because everybody knows it's not actually about your mom. It's like an eighth-grade thing that you just say. Yeah. I don't know his mom.

Yeah, but if that joke's directed towards you, you always think it's about your mom. Yeah, yeah. Well, that was just like, the lowest hanging fruit on anybody is just go, yeah, your mom's ugly. Yeah. Because that's not even really a thing. So I say, I played your, so let me reset it back up. He said, is Mr. Bobby Owens ever played a sport in his life other than pickle balls? I say, I played your mom was disgusting.

He said, dude, you have female issues and you bleed feminism, L.O.L. You wish you could be in my mother. What? No, he did it. Did he really say that? Yes. In your mother? Yes.

And it gets crazier, dude. This loco-Franco, dude, it gets crazier. Let me read it again. Because that's what I thought, I wish I could be in his mom. I'd have to read that like five times. No, I mean, too. Because the different, even if he had said with my mom, that's different. Way different.

In my mom. And that's what I'm talking about. When you say your mother, your mama, they take it personal. But even then you could say, yeah, you wish you could be with my mom, but you're a blank. No, this is different. Not, you wish you could be in my mother. What? That's so freaking weird.

It is wild. And then he wrote, you're not too hard to find, my guy. Oh. That's weird. Threats? I don't like that. Yeah. So then I put,

Bro calls me out. I respond and he hits me with the You Weren't Too Hard to Find. And so I just took a screenshot of that and posted it back on Twitter. Like, I don't mind getting into it with these idiots. But I just thought the two things happen. One, you wish you could be in my mother.

You're like, no, I don't. Bizarre. It's a joke, man. And then two, you aren't too hard to find. When somebody goes to like a physical thread on Twitter, Ultimate Wuss. Yeah. Like you get no wussier.

Then he calls me out. I answer whether your mom joke. And then he goes, you wish you could be in her. And I'll find you. Okay. Honest question, man. What are you going to be done

with these Twitter fights? I don't do them very often. It's been a while, hasn't it? The first one all football season. Is that right? Is that right? Yeah, I don't think so. I don't mind them because it's fictional.

And secondly, I did not talk to that guy. That guy comes to me. Here's the problem with calling out the devil. He might show up. And I'm the devil. So don't call me out because I will go, I will fight you, and then I will post the whole thing

and show everybody how stupid you are. And yeah, it's way below me. It's beneath me. I shouldn't do it. It is. I shouldn't do it. And you continue to do it. Yeah, I don't mind it.

Is it sheer entertainment? Like, for the most part for you? We were losing the game, and I'm going to take it out on somebody. So let's go to Twitter. And no, no, I was already on Twitter. I had nothing to do with this dude. He out of nowhere calls me out. And so it's like, all right, I'll dance.

Like, you walked on the dance floor. I'm over here dancing about myself. I'm dancing unhappily by myself. But you come over and you're like, you're a bad dancer to me. Okay, your mom. And so that's, that was it. I wonder if his mom's hot. Well, because he's like, you wish.

Turns out. In my mother. That's crazy. Hey, turns out in a weird. turn of events. His like screenshot, his mom's in it. No. Oh. Oh, nice. Okay, that makes sense. No, dude, you don't wish. I don't wish. You don't wish. I don't wish. Oh, that's wrong with people. Well, it kept going to like... What? That wasn't the end? Well, no, that was like the harsh part

when he started threatening me. But I mean, dude, I have no bottom when it comes to this. So I'll fight you. If I'm in, I'm not like about Twitter fight. But if I'm in and for no reason, comes at me and I'm losing a game. I'm already bad. I'm like, well, again, if you want to dance, I can Watusi. So let's go. You're a dancing champ. Oh my goodness. So, yeah, that's what's up. So you never answered the question. Did you play any other sport other than pickle balls? Well, in high school. Pickle balls. And what the thing to is, he makes like, he makes like little sports YouTube's that he has like, he follows more people than follow him. And I was sure to note that in back. Okay, this is a good little follow.

up questions. So when you get into these fights, you want a little background to? Oh, I go and research everything about them. I'm following links. Dude, I'm going full investigative reporter on everything they're about. Because you're like, who am I fighting here? Yes, exactly. Like, where is the vulnerability? He's putting out albums. And I'm like, dude,

and he comes at me again, and I'm like, dude, every single thing you're trying to do, I'm better than you at. And I say that to him. I say, keep making little YouTubes. This is after you kept saying all that? This is that. Go you kept coming to me. See, Twitter's interesting though because it's not like a text where you get to see like bubbles and like the

conversation did every tweet come instantaneously like no it was back and forth and then about three in i'm invested and i'm anxious to see how this turns out he threatened me again and it what was that one uh i don't remember i don't i just don't take it seriously yeah so they threw a my guy in there though man yeah yeah yeah my guy my guy my guy when someone says a my guy that like only douchebags say that yeah right or girls. Like, douchebags who are, that have like this fake sense of masculinity that they're trying to promote that is actually insecurity.

And I'm the most insecure person in the world in different ways. But, yeah, that was up. Don't be that guy, my guy. Don't be that guy. My guy. Yeah, yeah. Hey, you're not that guy. You're not that guy.

You're not that guy. You're not that guy. Remember that? Yep. Was that like a deli thing? It was like the grocery store or whatever it was. Don't be that guy. I'm not that guy.

I was going to... I don't know what you guys are talking about, but it's funny. Oh, you haven't? He says... This is another threat? Well, it keeps going. I mean, do you mean, read you more of it? I mean, if you feel comfortable...

Let's just go through it. I like hearing it. Yeah. If I feel comfortable, I did it. And then I didn't take it down. It's out there, yeah. I could have easily taken it down. Let's see.

If a pickleball played your mom is disgusting. Dude, you're not hard to find my guy. I'm better than you in every part of your life. I say I'm even a better. athlete, better looking. You make you little web videos. Makes sense, dude. Kisses and see you soon. That was his next thing he said. He said that to you. Kisses and see you soon. Yeah, yeah. And then I say, you go call somebody out. Then you get rattled and they respond. Classic talking tough guy. Exactly how this often goes down with people who have done nothing but talk something. Ooh, I like it.

And then his response was Bobby Boners loves Boners. What is this guy in third grade? And we're back in middle school. This guy's all over the play. yeah so that was Saturday night and I would and I get you know people talking to me

and negatively online a lot but if we're losing and I'm already like almost triggered by us losing the game and then you're going to come at me like I said

I'll dance I'm not better than it I'm not going to fight on Instagram this is Twitter's like an alley Twitter's like a back alley that's where the fights happen It definitely has that tone. Yeah, you know, if you're in the alley,

you don't know who's coming out where they're coming out. You just better be ready. And you know what? Sometimes you go into the alley to mix it up. Instagram's not the alley. TikTok's not the alley. I don't do crap over there like this. On Twitter, though, I'm mind of my own business.

I'm in the alley. Smoking a little crack. You know, doing my old thing. Things are doing an alley. Do it win sprints. Yep, doing alley stuff. Watching the hongs. Fighting a guy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And guy comes at me. So that was part of my weekend. Man. Wow, wow, wow. Nice little Saturday. He like it. hard to find. Okay, find me.

Does it say where he lives or no? Yeah, Little Rock. No, it didn't, but I found it. Oh, your research. You do not know everything about this dude. You have his address. Yes. I know where you live, my guy. My guy? I know where he is, my guy.

It's just funny, man. When my team loses, I go for a walk. I'm like, I'm going to just take a walk. This was mid-loss. This was while we were loose. I think we're down 10 at this point. Oof. And again, I wasn't looking for a fight. The fight found me. Yep.

So that's what's up. Our parley, I don't know who missed. That was me, man. It was me? That was me. My Texas Tech. They didn't, not only did they not cover, they didn't win. Yeah, they lost.

So I had, did I have Ohio State? I did. You had Oregon. Domination from both of you guys. Oh, the Oregon Rutgers thing. That was over two minutes. Yeah, yeah. Oregon minus 17 and a half at Rutgers.

Oregon wins that. Ohio State minus 24 and a half at Wisconsin. Kevin hit that. Eddie Texas Tech minus 7 and a half at Arizona State. Arizona State came out, yeah, pretty good. The quarterback's pretty good. Yeah, turns out they need them. Turns out that quarterback is a difference maker.

I was surprised. I mean, Texas Tech is a good team. Right. I did not watch the Cowboys game at all. Oh, really? I took my wife to a movie. Yesterday, that's good. She was like, hey, I'm feeling pretty good.

And as you guys know, all three of you, when you're pregnant wife's like, hey, I'm actually feeling like up to something. You just do it. Yep. And so she's like, hey, is there any chance you'll go to a movie at some point? She was like, you can pick the time. I know you have certain games. And the only movie we could go to that wasn't late, I mean, there was like a 6 o'clock.

And then there was like a noon. I didn't want to go to the 6. I didn't want to go to the noon because I didn't want to miss that first round of the game. Turns out the game's kind of sucked in the way. They were all so bad. Yeah. So we picked like the 3, which meant, Mike, we got to stop. We got to do something about these previews.

It was 45 minutes previews. It's usually like 30. It's terrible. It was at least 30. I put my phone down at 30 and it kept going for a little bit because then the Pepsi thing came on. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like the roller coaster ride into the movie.

Yep, yep. So I did get to watch the end of that first round of games, but we went and I missed a whole second slate. So I did not get to watch the Cowboys win. Man, those were all good games too. Like the... Just tell me, just tell me this. Dude.

My guy, just tell me the score. My guy, the Cowboys won the great game, but like that Packers game, the Broncos Giants game. The Broncos Giants game. The Broncos Giants game. Well, we're doing favorite teams right now. That's why I just said go with cowboys.

Cowboys. Dude, great game, man. Like, great game. Cowboys look great again. I don't know why, but they look good. I saw an alert come across that Jane Daniels got hurt. Yeah, his hamstring. But when?

What part of the game? Towards the third quarter? Was it out of hand when he got hurt? Was the game over already? No, I think we had a 15. It was getting there, though. I mean, the Cowboys handled that game from beginning to end. It was.

Right? I mean, that didn't change the game. No. Not necessarily. No. No. No. But, but yeah, like they sacked him and then he just landed awkwardly in his knee. I guess it was hamstring maybe. That's what I read hamstring. Yeah. That's what I read hamstring. Yeah. How did the Cowboys look? It's getting an MRI today. How did Cowboys look again? I mean, D. I mean, D. I'm not the Cowboys fan here. Yeah, maybe one touchdown. But he's awesome. He scored early. He like jogged into the end of the end of great. Awesome. Two touchdowns? I saw one. I don't know. I didn't watch the whole thing. I'm not the Cowboys fan here. Yeah, maybe one touchdown. But dude is awesome. He scored early. He like jogged into the end of the end of. because he was all wide open.

Felt healthy. Felt healthy, dude. Great. Everything was really, really good. I loved every minute. It was one of those where you can just relax after like the third quarter. You like those. Love it.

Yeah. Love it. I love stress-free games. I don't want to be stressed out all the way to the end and then something maybe lose it. I like a game that's always at a two-possession lead. I don't want to, listen, if we're playing Montana State, that's boring because we're up 40-0 in the second quarter. I like it we're always up to like at least nine like between nine to 13 points

because you know one pick six doesn't change the game where you're not losing after a pick six. Like the perfect game for me is that. Being up two possessions, like the Texas A&M version of this weekend is the perfect game for me if I'm a Texas A&M fair. If you're an A&M. Yeah.

You're up two. They're driving. It's kind of exciting because you're like, oh God, but then you know they got to get this and then they got to have some sort of Jesus miracle come down and happen. Yeah. So it's interesting enough to keep you intrigued also. Like I'm still like, but you're okay because you're going to win.

I'm not going to fight anybody because we're winning by Twitter. I'm not getting into the ally guy. You went to the Patriots game yesterday. I did. Yeah, we showed up a few minutes after the game started and it was a little bit nerve-wracking at first. Yeah. I mean, they were down 3-0, then 10-3 and it was like, oh man. And then it was like, oh, yeah, actually we're just a lot better than this team. Let's turn this on a little bit. Dude, he went off. Drake? Oh, my God. I know what I realized, too? I had no idea. whole like, I think he had 16 completions in a row and the 91% throwing percentage and all that.

I had no idea. When you're at the game, you don't realize these things, I feel like. And then you go home and you're like, and you watch on TV, you know the storylines. I knew you played a good game. You don't have the info. You don't have someone telling you all the info like on TV. Yeah. It's like, they're just going to tell you first down.

Yeah. And there's like, that's what sucks about going to a game is that you don't feel as educated. No. Because you don't know if somebody's really hurt. If they come out, you might watch them walk into the blue tent. You don't get to hear about their aunt who's at the game. It's his grandma's first game. One thing about the blue tent, that was funny, though.

Obviously, there was a lot of Patriots fans there. But when Drake May went in for like two plays because he hit his head and you heard, I couldn't see where he was at. We were down below with the babies. And then all we heard was the crowd just go crazy. What the heck is happening? Him going back in the game. Him going back in the game.

Like you would think we're at. at Gillette. Yeah, was it more Patch fans? It was 80% probably. Wow, really? Oh, it was a lot. I woke up on Sunday and they're like, well, let me look at tickets because usually you look day of and tickets are pretty cheap. It was funny to see the prices. It was more expensive

to sit on the Patriots side of the stadium than it was to sit on the Titans. Yeah, we got tickets for 35 bucks, dude. Nice. Very good. My other favorite team, they lost, but it was close. My other favorite team is anybody who plays Texas. And so Hey, Mike, you guys did not look good.

That's a win but a loss in my book. I mean... Offense looks horrendous. Horrible. There's no chemistry. Our defense is amazing. Our kicker won the game, but we look awful. It ended up going to overtime.

Did it? Yeah, I didn't. Yeah. Because I was getting... I was watching it on YouTube TV. For some reason, I feel like if I'm watching it on bad luck. I was rooting hard against Texas. And so I was like, nope, I'm just going to check the score later.

And then I saw Texas at one on a field goal. Because I watched it right up until the end of the fourth quarter. Yeah, they went for the touchdown. We blocked them and then just kicked the field goal. I really hate that for Kentucky. My guy's over here. I know, man. One of your helmets.

That helmet's about to fall off right there. Yeah. I'll fix it, my guy. I hung out with Coach Lappole this weekend. Oh, yeah. How did that go? Good. I like him.

I don't want to give up too much of his business because I don't know what's up. But he's Kansas head football coach. And, yeah, they were in town for a couple days. And hit me up. And then we went and had lunch. hung out and talk some business. Oh, a little business? Nah, not really.

We just hung out. Who paid? Well, he did because they beat me to it. They did the trick that I do. It was him and his wife. So they do the trick that I do. What's the trick? You pay for it before the person gets there?

Ah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. But I think they were just repaying because he had come to town, kind of a last minute thing. They had an off week last week. And so they wanted to go. They were like, hey, asking a question about something. I was like, Keith Urban's in town. and so I know Keith, so I just called and had him put some tickets for them.

I said, you guys don't have to go, but Keith goes on at 9. And so they ended up going to the show, or at least some of it, if not all of it. And then we had lunch the next day of school. That's great. Very cool. He likes Nashville. Hasn't he been, wasn't he just here? Was that him?

Oh, that was coach Odom, huh? Well, both and Satterfield. Oh, Jesus. Sorry, I get them all mixed up. I took Odom and Saterfield to the opera. That's what it was. That's what I'm thinking. I saw when you responded that text, I was weird.

I was, I don't know. I just thought maybe he knows more than I day. what I thought I did. I'm like, oh, he knows coach. Okay, cool. Hey, what's this spread in the Kansas Kansas State game this week? We look at it up. Because that's a big rivalry, and Kansas States kind of had their number recently. Where are they playing

too? If I'm betting it's Kansas, the state of Kansas. You know what, I bet that's the same bet. So, all right, there's our list of favorites. Kansas minus three. At Kansas. At Kansas. Yeah, they're at home. Does that mean they're playing?

They have a stadium, right? They have a new stadium. They paid about a billion dollars for. It's freaking nice. It's awesome. Hey, I know people up there. I know a guy. If we ever want to go. All right, that's the second of my call. Let's talk about our favorites.

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Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music.

The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes,

follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. I'm John Green. You may know me as the author of The Fault and Our Stars, and now I guess also as the co-host of The Away End, a brand new world soccer podcast.

I'm Daniel Alarcon, a writer and journalist, and John and I have known each other since we were kids. My first World Cup was Mexico 86. I was nine years old. I watched every game, and I fell in love.

On our new podcast, The Away End, we'll share with you the magic, of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup. For us, soccer, football, is a story we've shared for over 30 years since Daniel was the star player on our high school soccer team.

Very debatable. And I was their most loyal and sometimes only fan. I love this game. I love its history, its hope, it's heartbreak, and above all, it's beauty. Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer,

is the most important. Listen to the Away End with Daniel Ilercon and John Green on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, here's our talk now with Minnesota head football coach PJ Fleck. Coach Fleck and the gophers had a huge one on Friday night when they beat Nebraska, nine sacks. The gophers are now five and two, and they'll face Iowa this weekend and another big game. Thanks to coach for coming on.

Here he is. Coach P. PJ Fleg. What up, coach? Bobby Bones, what's up, man? Hey, first of all, big fan. Love the energy. always. I don't know anything about Minnesota as a state been there like twice, but I watch you guys. Like, congratulations, coach. That was an awesome win Friday night.

Yeah, I appreciate that, man. That was a really big win for us. So we're fired up to get that. It was always good to beat Big Red. I was going to ask, when you do a Friday night game, do you condense things or do you just not do things leading up to that game? Well, you condense it pretty quick, and then you alter it. So college football is a little bit different than the NFL, right? So Tuesdays, you have first and second down practice. coaches game plan all Monday. So Tuesday, first, second down practice. Wednesdays are third down practice. Thursday is like a walkthrough where you have the whole game plan in. And then Friday is like a fast, quick 30-minute practice. And then you obviously have Saturday of the game. When you only

have a six or five-and-a-half-day week, we practiced on Tuesday. We did like a true walk-through practice on Wednesday. Thursday, we kind of did a little bit of a 30-minute plus another walk-through. It's kind of like the NFL, like the Vikings will play Thursday, but they just got done playing on Sunday. So it's all walkthroughs. There's no practice throughout the week. So you still do the same game plan, and the coach is spending the same amount of time game planning.

It's just you've got to adapt the practice schedule a little bit for kids. I don't know how many analysts you have, but do you have any of the guys start working earlier on a game that's coming up on a Friday than normally? I'm just, the traditional schedule has just got to throw everything off for a minute. It does. I mean, it definitely does. and that's what makes it unique.

But yeah, we have analysts that are working a little bit ahead. We don't have the resources that some schools have. So we don't have a whole department working ahead, creating game plans. So we don't have all those resources. But we have some people, some young people working ahead, whether it's personnel, schematics, you know, analytics, things like that to give us kind of a report right when we start that game planning. But we don't have the resources some people have where they're kind of game planning weeks in advance. We don't have that.

but, you know, we have our own kind of people that work ahead a little bit. There's a lot of things that I do now in the different jobs that I have where I can use AI. Have we got to the point now where you can just like stick other teams in AI to see what their, what their tendencies are through a computer program? You can. I think that we have been doing that for years. We've been doing that in a very different way, though. The analytics have been around for a while, but AI is taking it to a completely different level,

in my opinion. But there's still a human element. in a football. Remember, our product is people. Apple's product is the iPhone, the iPad, the earbuds, and, you know, like, that's the product. When you're dealing in a world where the product is 18 to 22-year-olds, there's still a sense of the human part of it. So yes, like going forward on fourth and one and having analytics on this and that and what's the book say on this and what's the AI say on that, which is fine if it was all robots going out there and playing. These are human beings. So there's still that human element.

There's injuries. What does your team really do well? What do they not do well? The type of opponent you're playing. What injuries do they have? I mean, it's crazy. It is the most unpredictable sport, I think, in the entire world. I watch the game because a Friday night allows me to watch teams at times that I don't

normally get to watch. I think that's a benefit of all the hard things for you guys to have to adjust to. Probably the great thing is people get into watch, like more people than normal. And so I'm watching the game. I mean, you guys dominated the crap out of them. It seems like there was a sack every third play. Like what did you got? Did you know going into it that your defensive line, like your edges,

were going to be able to dominate like that? We had to. And that was the whole game plan, was to take the pocket and shrink it, eliminate the running lanes for Rayola. Because he's one of the best players in all of America. He can create, whether it's a past game, the run game. He's like Houdini. He's got a great escapeability in the pocket.

So we had to continue. condense those lanes, but it really starts top down. And we did a great job, I thought, on the outside and the perimeters, were banged up at corner, had a lot of young players playing. But they did a great job covering from the top down, which allowed our guys condense the pocket, eliminate those running lanes and escape lanes, and get to them and put the pressure on them.

And, you know, I thought our guys blitzed really well. There's some really good clips of us blitzing and some almost gifts of our linebackers really bringing it when they did blitz with intentionality. violence. And I thought we dictated the terms of the game of how that game was going to be played very early. And part of that was getting after the quarterback and stopping the run. And I thought our guys did a great job of that. Now, Raola got out there and looked like Patrick Mahomes at times. He's going to do that. But I thought all in all, when you look at the beginning game to the end of the game, I thought we dominated that. That 98-yard drive, I think it was

98 in the third quarter. Whenever your offense is calling play, and you're on the two, are you just hoping, hey, let's get to a place where at least we can flip the fill position. Or are you like, all right, we're dialed in, we're going to go 98 yards? Well, we have a saying here. And every piece of the field is named something different, right? So whether that's short yardage and goal line, whether that's, you know, red zone or tight red zone, whether that's alumni zone, which everybody loves the middle of the field. It's called the alumni zone because the alumni love watching bombs get thrown over people's heads. Take a shot. Throw it deep. But when you are back, we caught backed up from the four yard line to the goal line.

And then coming out is from the five yard line to the 12 yard line. So we have a saying in situational football when you're in backed up. The first goal of backed up is get out of backed up. So within the first play, we want to get out. We want to get past that four yard line. And we were able to do that. Well, then you're into coming out. You're in that five to the 12 range. Well, the first goal of coming out is get out of coming out. So getting out of that coming out part and getting your first, first down is critical. Now some people like, to be able to throw the ball vertical at times. You can do that too because it's kind of like a punt.

But our whole goal is, hey, when you're backed up, first goal backed up, get out of backed up, get into coming out. Once you're in coming out, get out of coming out. And that's where the majority of football played is where you kind of get in that 25-yard line to the opposite 25-yard line. That's where the majority of football's played. So that was our whole mindset. And then once we were able, you know, it was about an eight-and-a-half-minute drive to really

establish that mindset in that second half of what. we wanted to do. Final question about that game is you kind of own Nebraska. Like you're seven and one against them. Like you kind of have the deed to the land, right? Like you're going to that state, you're like, I own Nebraska. I wish it was that simple. It just happens we've won each year.

Over the course of the eight years, we won seven of them. It just happened to be that. We have our own nemesis, if you want to look at it, from the opposite perspective. You know, I think we've only won one time in the last eight years against the team we're going to play this week. So in the big 10, you really never know what you're going to get. You want to be 1-0 every single week. And that's the whole point. We have this whole corny mindset, right? Of just be 1-0 every single week, every week's its own entity, and it's a championship week. And that's how our players approach it. We're playing an opponent. That's a big rival of ours

this week. And we've had a lot of one-possession games with them. So you've got to find a way to get with your players and understand that every week in the Big Ten, you have no idea what's going to happen. Just because you did it last year or two years ago or three years ago doesn't mean that's going to continue to happen this year. You've got to earn everything you get. As much as college football has changed over the years with NIL and Portal and paying players and all these other things,

the one thing that stays the same is everything changes. And you've got to find a way to get everybody in that one-game championship mindset. And I think our players do a really good job of that. You got a mini-mini-bye since you played on Friday. What do you get to do on a Saturday then? It's a great question. Well, because we won, we gave everybody Saturday off. Our coaches had a lot of things to kind of do on their own at home,

and then we started really early on Sunday on Iowa. But you know what the flex do? I mean, we get done with a whole week of football, get done with a game like that. We celebrate in the locker room like that. And then the next day, we watch football. So you watched other games? games. That's what we did. Heather and I and sat there and watched a ton of games on Saturday,

went for a bunch of walks. It's kind of what we did. Man, if I watch other like creatives, it's a matter if it's comedy, whatever, I compare myself. I'm like, oh, I'm funnier than him. I'm whatever. Do you watch other teams be like, oh, we kill them. Oh, do you call play? Can you be a fan, coach, while you're watching games? No, Heather can be a fan. But we love to watch like teams that, you know, we know the head coaches of and are really good friends. friends with. But I have a hard time watching anything for entertainment. If I watch a movie on a Netflix show with Heather, I'm stopping it constantly, rewinded it. And I have a little, I have no pads everywhere around the house. And I just write it down. She's like, what are you doing? I'm like, I could use

that for a team meeting. I never watch anything for entertainment. So if I'm watching a Netflix show or a movie, I'm looking for something I can use with my team. It just, it drives her crazy. Because we can never just watch a show and just watch the whole entirety of it. When we're watching football, I'm constantly stopping it. All right, what would I do? Okay, I'm going to put myself in this person's shoes situationally. What would I do? I'm then asking Heather, what would you do here? And then I'm sitting there grilling her like she's a coach. Why would you do that? Like, why would you put your team in that position? It's just like, what are you talking about? I'm like, why would you do that? So it's really hard to ever watch anything, especially football or sports.

without taking the coaching lens off or using it for your football team. So I don't know. I guess that's why maybe I'm really hard to live with and maybe to work for it because I'm constantly looking at ways to make it better. Have you been to a concert lately at all, Coach? Yes. Love concerts. Love concerts.

What did you go to? Well, we've been to a few concerts. We took the staff last year to Bruce Springsteen. I'm a big fan of Bruce. We went to a small concert for the TB1F Foundation, which is a great friend of ours. She's a teenage girl, has cancer, and unfortunately she's got it for the third time.

But she had, like, Graham Barham in and got to spend some time around Graham Barham, who I thought was absolutely awesome, you know, having that oil money song. And I'm a big country music fan. Luke Combs, Riley Green. I got to see those guys. Oh, gosh.

Last one. Kenny Chesney in the sphere. Did you go? How would I forget that? Unbelievable. In fact, went to the show, not necessarily with, but met up with Matt Rule, the head coach from Nebraska, UNLV, Dan Mullen, the head coach there. And we were all at the show kind of together, got to be around Kenny a little bit.

He was so gracious. Matt Rul is friends with the guy. Dan Mullen's friends with the guy. I'm not friends with him. So I was starstruck, man. I was like, hey, I met you outside this Malibu Hotel like five years ago ago. and I was like fan-girling, man. It was crazy.

I know Kenny relatively well, and he invited me out a couple times, and I didn't go, and I was like, I've seen Kenny before. But that's Fier's show. Is it pretty special, just that venue? It is the greatest entertainment spectacle, I think, in the world. I've seen Le Miz in London. I've done a lot of things. What people say, you have to see this show.

I love concerts. I go to a lot of concerts. By far the greatest thing I've ever seen. You're immersed in the experience. I don't think I've had. And we where we were sitting was perfect. But I don't even remember looking at Kenny Chesney or the stage. Like it's the only concert I've ever been to where I never looked at the stage.

You're immersed in this feeling and experience of what Kenny Chesney is all about. The feeling he wants you to feel, you feel it. I mean, it hits your heart, your soul. It's unbelievable. I mean, I've never been. And Heather and I love Vegas, so it's great. But this fear is unbelievable. And Kenny put on such a live show.

What an entertainer. All right. Last question. You got Iowa coming up. And like you said, your personal record against Iowa hasn't been as good as you hoped it had been. What do you do different this year? Do everything we can to be one in O. You know, this is nothing to do with last year or five years ago or the close games we've had with them at times.

This is a rivalry. You throw all those records out. We're playing for a hundred pound pig, the Floyd of Rosedale, which is one of the greatest traditions in all of college football, one of the greatest robberies in all of college football. So there's a completely different team in 2025. Iowa has a completely different team in 2025. We've got to play our best football. We've got to find a way to be one and oh. And I know Iowa feels the same way. Iowa City is such a special place to play in, Kinnick Stadium, all the tradition there.

their fans absolutely love Iowa. So we've got to have a great week of preparation. Find a way to be one and no come Saturday afternoon. All right, Coach. Really appreciate the time. I would be a little remiss if I didn't just mention that the fall colors in Fayetteville really great. I just want you to think about that.

The fall colors in Fayetteville are pretty – that's all I'll say. I'll say no more. But I just want you to think about that. Coach, if you ever get some time, you know, fall colors in Fayetteville are pretty freaking great. Hey, good luck this week, coach. Have no comment. And we'll be watching for you.

Congrats on your win last week. I will say our quarterback is from Fayetteville, which is pretty ironic. I know. He is an absolute stud, guys. I'm just telling him. He is an absolute stud. I'm pretty upset. Hopefully you'll have him on the show one day. I'm pretty upset.

We don't have them on the team, Coach, if I'm being honest. But yeah, you did a good one there. All right, there he is. Coach Fleck, good to see you, coach. Big fan of you, Bobby. Thank you very much for having us on the show. Thanks, coach. See you later.

The 2026 NFL draft is here, and the NFL Daily podcast has it covered from all angles. Join me, Greg Rosenthal, and Jordan Roderig, after night one on Thursday. Nick Shook joins me night two Friday and then Sunday to recap everything that went down over the three days in Pittsburgh. We'll tell you who won the draft

and which players were my favorite picks. Listen to NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me.

Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show.

This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast.

It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to The Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.

And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. I'm John Green. You may know me as the author of The Fault in Our Stars, and now I guess also as the co-horred. host of The Away End, a brand new world soccer podcast. I'm Daniel Alarcon, a writer and journalist, and John and I have known each other since we were kids.

My first World Cup was Mexico 86. I was nine years old. I watched every game, and I fell in love. On our new podcast, The Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup. For us, soccer, football, is a story we've shared for over 30 years since Daniel was the star player on our high school soccer team. debatable, and I was their most loyal and sometimes only fan. I love this game. I love its history,

its hope, its heartbreak, and above all, its beauty. Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the most important. Listen to the away end with Daniel Alarcon and John Green on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, I have made a list of notes, as I often do, and let's go down them. Number one, the brown's helmets, when they're brown, it's like a matte brown, it's one of my new favorite helmets. Really? Yep. So it's the opposite color way of the whenever it's like fully orange.

Is it orange or my color? Yeah, orange. But I know it's brown, although it does look black, but I know it's brown because of the browns. That's how I know it's brown. I think I've complimented and commented on their jerseys before, but that helmet looks awesome. The whole thing they were wearing was brown, right? Helmet Brown, New Jersey, Brown. So big shout out to the Brown.

They won. Yeah, beat them pretty good. Dauphin suck. Have they fired Miami Daniel yet? As of right now, nope. Dang. My other note, I wrote on all the teams that lost. Number two, Miami lost.

hilarious to Louisville. Yeah. Ole Miss lost. What a game. Great game. Georgia didn't stop Ole Miss one single time until they had to stop Ole Miss one single time. Yeah.

That was an awesome game. That was just points on points. Yeah. So, Ole Miss lost to Georgia. Texas Tech loss. Also a crazy game because Arizona State blew the lead and then came back in won. I believe I've seen a bunch of games since that, right? Okay.

Boom. LSU. If he doesn't win every game the rest of the year, Brian Kelly's out. They're going to fire him. Yeah. That's crazy. He left Notre Dame to go win championship. Since then, they've been in the championship, and they're probably going to get in the tournament again.

And right now, Number 10 LSU, not in. They've got to win. And they don't look great at all. No, because Nussmeyer doesn't look full. No. Something's up. Either he sucks worse than we thought, which I don't think is true.

He's dealing with an injury. He's playing too much PlayStation. I don't know what it is. That could be in. But something's up because, yeah, you're right. Their offensive line is not good, though. Yeah. Their offensive line is not good.

And you know what? A bad offensive line makes a quarterback look hurt sometimes. But yeah, their offensive line not good. I watch a bunch of that. Tennessee, they lost at number, there's a lot of losses. Tennessee at number 11 lost to Alabama. That game,

I don't want toot my own horn here. When everybody's like, Caitlin DeBoer sucks, I never. I was always like, no, DeBoard's awesome. And you're going to see. There's just too much parity now for there to be a team that runs away with everything unless your Ohio State or Indiana right now. Because they're easily one and two.

And even then Oregon's right there somewhere. Tennessee lost. USC lost. To Notre Dame. They blew it. This was Notre Dame's last chance to lose because they don't play anybody the rest of the year.

Memphis lost, they blew it. Memphis was looking ahead at UFC. UCF, University Central Florida. University Central Florida. UCF. Thank you. UFC, Universal Fighting Championship. Okay, that's fighting. Memphis lost to UAB with Mortensen.

Yeah. As the interim coach, they were looking ahead. They were worried about college game day coming the next week, which might have been the whole situation, but they blew it. That's probably the worst loss of the week right there. Utah lost.

Hey, BYU. Solid. Undefeated. Solid. Yeah. And that Holy War, you know, I think the woke is trying to like change the name. Never change the name of the Holy War. It's awesome. Yeah, that's a great name. That's the name of rivalry. The Holy War. Yes. I mean, that sounds so intense.

It sounds like a movie. And while we're at it, Red River shootout comes back too. Yeah, man, why not? It's an old Western movie anyway reference. Or it's a three-point shootout. Stop calling the three-point shots. Hey, why don't, hey, woke. Oh, I see what you're saying.

Why don't we call them three-point throws? Woke. Yeah, whoa. Everybody's so worried about Red River shootout. We can't call it that. Okay, how about three-point shooting? Woke. That's still the same thing, shooting, shots.

We need to call it three-point throwing then, so nobody gets their feelings hurt. Anyway, that was stupid, yeah. I'm gonna buy it. And boomer sooner, boom. You gotta take the boom out, whoa. No, that's just a sound. Oh, yeah, boom, a sign of a gun, boom. No, is that all right?

I get it. We're trying. We're a spitball in here. There's no script on this show. Sometimes we go in directions. Nebraska lost. And you had coach Fleck on, but it's crazy that he won 7 of 8 against Nebraska.

What I think about there, though, is that Matt Rule probably going to get the Penn State job. I don't know any more than anybody else that I read. But then he goes and loses the game right when he's the guy. That definitely sours a fan base. If Penn State's like, yeah, Matt Ruhl's our guy, I went to school here,

great coach at Temple, coach's face off, coach at Baylor, coach's face off. Okay, not so good with the Panthers, but you know what? Everybody sucks at the Panthers. I.E. C. Baker-Mafeld, see Sam Darnold, see Christian McCaffrey, see Matt Ruh. You can put all the Panthers. That's just a bad place. That's our guy. That's our guy. All right, this week they're going to play a minute. Oh my God, they lost.

We don't want them anymore. Yeah. And they lost pretty good too. Yeah. Like easily. I don't think they scored a touchdown. Mm-mm. Am I right?

No, yeah, two field goals. Ah, that's tough. So yeah, it's underbath. A lot of teams lost. Okay, I got two other notes here. And then I go to Eddie's notes. Oh. One of the things that they thought was funny on television

that I thought was mildly humorous on television. But I wouldn't have been fooled by it because it was bad acting. Was Patrick Mahomes? So it's fourth and one. And he goes up and he's like, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Huh, hi, huh. Huh, right.

F, this effin doesn't work. Hold on it. And they handed up. The acting was so bad. I was it Nancy? Was it Nancy and Romo? Yeah, and they were laughing. And it was funny.

Yeah, yeah. It was funny. I thought it was such terrible acting. It wouldn't have thrown me off. Yeah. And you knew, right, when they're over, like, over the top with it, you always know, okay, what's coming. When he's like, this ain't working.

Yeah. He throws F, board out there and everything. I mean, loud on TV, too, which was hilarious. I like it. They try stuff like that. That's fun to me. The Chiefs are good. Hey, Rashid adds a whole different element. Oh, man. Dude, they're good.

He had two touchdowns. He did. Yeah. First game back. Dude, they're good. I don't watch any of it. Yeah, it's tough for you to watch games. Yeah, that's hard. Yeah. I was at the other games. Oh, yeah. I can't really do that.

Yeah. I did watch because I was at home until the last 30 minutes, and I watched the other one during the previews of the freaking movie that lasted. You had your phone on in the movie theater? Only during the previews. And my wife was smart enough to go and thoughtful enough to go. Hey, I know you're giving up a part of your day of football because it's part of your job, this job in the NFL show.

She's like, so if we go to the 230 and let's get a seat in the very back row and you can have your phone on during the early part of the movie, the previews. So you won't be shining a light within. She does get it. Nice job. But luckily it was over before it even started. But I thought, oh, that's a great idea.

You can always go to a kids movie too I wouldn't want to go to a kid's movie I know but just say no one cares about light phones on those movies But if I was going to go to a kids movie I would just watch the game at home Because I don't want to go to a kid's movie Maybe you can talk to your wife into watching a kid's movie You're like I really want to see the new trolls

You know like something like that SpongeBob babe My final note is Clemson sucks Yeah they do They're still cursed They're still cursed They're still cursed The day it all changed is the day they big-timed us.

See, that's crazy, though, that coach wouldn't be like, you know what? Like, this could be a real thing. I'm just going to go on that podcast in an interview. The day they big-timed us is the day they started sucking and only that reason. And it's probably not going to turn around until that happens. That's right. So if anybody wants to get this to dabbo, we're here. Would you have a mom?

I'd have a mom. Of course I'd have a monitor. I'd lift the curse. That's been the deal, Brandon. Like, do you want to come on? Come on. The curse will be lifted if dabbo comes on. and you're talking about the program it used to be,

it immediately goes back to. That's not even a button I'm hitting. Whenever I start talking about the curse, that happens. We don't have that button. I don't even, yeah. There's no, right. When I stop talking about... That's bizarre.

Yeah. There's not even wind here. That's true. But the chimes are being moved by something. Interesting. There aren't even chimes. Whistlers curse. All right.

Let me see if there's anything that I want to mention NFL-wise that we haven't mentioned. Thank God the Bengals won. Oh, man. That was a great game too. You know what, though? I feel bad for Jake Browning. Like, I really do.

Like, that was your chance. But he had the chance and he had multiple weeks at the chance. I know that. I know that. It just solidifies that you're just not that you're a backup. Yeah. It solidifies it because Flacco played well. If Flacco also would have come to town and it still sucked for him too and he's

on picks and it's like, oh, it's a situation. Maybe Jake Browning isn't the problem. No, no. Flacco came in, got rid of the ball within three seconds. He knew. He knew the drill. He said, I have Jamar Chase out there. It was awesome.

Exactly. And we're a bit biased because we have them in our league where if they lose, we lose money. Yeah. We're up $600 bucks as right now. Let's go. Dude, I've never cheered so hard for the Bengals in my life. Like one of my neighbors is a Bengals fan. But you're tied to the Bengals more.

We're all tied to the Bengals financially. Oh, I am very. But you are more than us because you fought for them. Correct. That's fair. Which is why would I fight for the Bengals? I don't know why I did, but I did. Micah Parsons, remember?

He had traded right before. Because you wanted the. Packers and I'm like no chance we don't want the Packers. Right. Oh yeah. That's got to be it. Yeah. So in my mind, the Chiefs are mine, the Bengals are yours and the Patriots are yours. Yeah. It's like the best. And the Bucks is all of ours. I mean, I picked the Bucks. I thought it was a good pick. But I'm talking about like who were tight. Because that first overall pick, that's all on me. And that's the one that has to win. Yeah. So the- What's crazy is you didn't. Oh, no, we didn't have Ravens. Who do we have at that

pick? Do we have the bills? The first two off the board were Buffalo and Baltimore. It was either the Eagles or the Chiefs, right? There we go. Yeah, I could have picked the Eagles. That's who you're going between. Yeah. And I picked the Chiefs.

Good job. Because I don't want two reasons. One, I didn't want to have you to root against the Cowboys. And the Eagles, don't just root for the Eagles. God, that had been terrible for me every week. That did factor into my mind because I didn't want to have to have you root in your own monies against your rooting. And then we're getting mad at you for rooting against our money. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I appreciate that. And I also had the Chiefs last year and they made me so much money. And I wanted a team that. I like the AFC better too. And I believe in Patrick Mahom. I don't mind the Chiefs too. I know you don't like the Chiefs. But I don't mind them.

Like I enjoy watching the Chiefs and rooting for them. I enjoy winning money with the Chiefs this year. Yes, I really enjoy that. Yeah, no. It's good. This is the first time. The Colts are the most winning team in the United States. Absolutely.

And they are mowing teams over. Yeah. I did think the Chargers would win. I was like, okay, this would be a cute little story. It's where it ends. This is where it probably has a hiccup. I didn't think it would end, because they're also in a weak division. The Colts.

Yes. But in the Chargers have been playing well. They won last week with Justin. And I thought this is it. But no. Nope. They're good. I think they're officially good now.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because they weren't. I think they're a fun story until this last week when they beat a really good team, the Chargers. It wasn't like the Broncos win where they needed the leverage. Like, you really can't say much because I think they just won that game, right? Yeah. From beginning to end.

Yes. I mean, they smoked them. Their offense looks awesome. Love it. What are you going to say? I was going to say, Jonathan Taylor. I thought the same thing, too. This year would be the end of Jonathan Taylor.

He's going to come down. But no, he's so good. He's still so good. Yeah. And they have to respect the pass. The NFL's different than college in the way, depending on what offensive scheme you're running. The NFL is way, way, way more of a passing league.

And so now it's like, if you respect the quarterback and the wide receivers, then your running back is actually going to be able to do some damage. That's what Jonathan Taylor does. Yeah. And so because they have to respect freaking Indiana Jones, Danny Dines. Daniel Jones. They, Jonathan Taylor also is awesome. Yeah.

But he has the ability to have them not to just do a Derek Henry. Because when the Titans had Derek Henry, and they could do nothing. That's all they had. All they had to do is freaking focus on Derek Henry and stop and the Titans game's over. Yeah. Yeah. And they had AJ Brown for like two years and said, no, he's too good. Let's ship them off over here.

The Titans? Yeah. I don't want to pay him. Yeah. I mean, that's the problem. I don't want to pay any. Anybody. All right, Eddie's notes.

What's more important? Winning or having fun? Oh, is a legitimate question. Go ahead. So my six-year-old, he plays baseball, and he's in a great, great baseball team. Like, every kid on the team is A-plus, and they win. Like, they're going to play for the championship tonight. They'll probably win.

But the problem is my son's not really having fun because it's so serious. The culture is such a winning, serious culture, and they're six years old. And I don't mind it. I'm fighting for him to stay on it, but I can tell that my son is not having fun. do we choose because he can play for another team with all his friends and they're probably not going to win as much but he'll have a blast

okay does he enjoy winning that's the question he does he likes winning but he also like when it's game day he's not like oh yes I got a game today he's I was like got a game today okay all right but then that sucks at six I don't want him to hate the sport

but they are so good can I just throw an idea I'm not saying this is again I've I know give a lot of great parenting advice because I've been a parent for so long. So if you are my guy. Thank you. What if, because he's good. He's good.

He's good. He's very natural. He's good and the whole team is good. What if he played on a worst team one season and had more fun and you could see which one he liked more? Okay. Because let him play on a fun team and actually see if he enjoys it more while. Because he may go, man, this is so much.

where I just having a good time, but then he may start losing and hate it more than he hated having to get ready for those games that he won. True. And I'm thinking too, if he goes on a worse team, he'll shine even more because he's better than everyone else. I hear you, but I would just

I would rather win. But I'm an adult. Yeah. At six, that's different. I would think. I think give them the opportunity. Coach just texted right now. He's like, get here an hour early. We're going to hit the batting cages.

Serious, man. They're six. They are serious. And this is the team that I told you. You worried about burning him out? Yeah, well, I think I'm more worried about him being six years old and not having fun just kind of being six years old. It sure is fun to win, though. I think you're- And, dude, they win. They do. Oh, yeah. They dominate. What if you let him pick?

Just ask him, well, you know what? We did kind of have a conversation with him the other day, and he was like, I don't know I want to play baseball anymore. He just said that out of the blue. Then I think I would push him toward a more fun team next year. And then try to get him more excited. And then see if he gets more excited about it. Or if he still likes playing, but he hates losing. I think you'll learn a lot if you switch up the environment.

Just in general, anybody. This is the team, though. Remember I told you guys that they're kind of like getting ready for travel for when he's like in middle school? Like this is the team that they're trying to. That's fine. Groom is a weird word, but you know. You can take a season off. Okay.

If he's still good, it doesn't matter if he takes three seasons off. Oh, dude. He'll still be good. It doesn't matter if he moves into a town and they're just starting the travel team. If he's good enough, he gets on the team. I would let him play in a different fun league. Okay. Because, man, I knew you were going to say, like, winning, dude.

Well, sometimes you don't appreciate winning until you're a loser. I really don't think you appreciate anything until you either don't have it anymore or never had it until you get it. Like people that grow up extremely rich, never really appreciate money. Yeah. Unless it's even more money than they grew up with. So my philosophy generally is with people, humans, they don't appreciate what they have until they don't have it or unless they never had it.

Think about oxygen. We're not appreciating oxygen right now. We just always have it. Because it's always there. It's always there. Imagine if someone cut your air supply off for a minute. You're like, oh, God. Or imagine when you're sick and you're like,

man, the next time I'm healthy, I'm going to appreciate it so much. The next time I don't have a sore throat, I'm going to appreciate it so much. And then as soon as you, don't have a sore throat, you forget about it, you don't even appreciate it. Yeah. Or like, burn your tongue in the roof of your mouth. Yes. That's the worst. Or you got an earache or anything that's not normal. If it's abnormal, feeling in a worse way, you're like, dang, I wish I would have appreciated it more.

And it may, so. When I broke my arm, man, I never forget, I was just like, I got to appreciate my arm more. Like everything I can do with my arm. Yes, sir. But then once it healed up, I'm like, I don't care. I don't even think about my arm. But you do whenever it's time to to kind of remember what you should be appreciated. Yeah, that's good stuff. So, yeah, I think the human element of appreciation is an odd thing, and I know we're comparing it to a six-year-old. Six-year-old little league. Even freedom, right, that we have to go out, go to work, go get food when we want it.

As soon as that gets shut down or you get put in jail, a different regime comes in, like, if you're in another country, you're like, oh, my God, I never appreciated freedom because it was just inherently there. I know we're going to place that we're talking about six years old. It started with that though, but it's bigger than the six years old. Yeah. So, thanks for going on my TED Talk. Thank you, man.

That was good. Hear me a great dad. You are, dude. This is going to be a... I've already... There'll be no cartoons. What are you talking about? It's all documentaries.

Absolutely. Yeah. They're not going to want to watch documentaries. They don't know what they don't have. Yeah, they're going to love the documentary. Until they go to school and they're like, did you watch this documentary? And they're like, what are you talking about? They don't know what they don't have.

Exactly. So they can't... under appreciate it because they don't even know they have it. There you go. It's like us in the ability to fly as humans. If there were humans that could fly and they looked at us and they're like, well, they don't know that you actually can fly. Let's say we don't have, we don't understand that we have an ability to fly because we don't know how to do it. But there's something about if you were to just turn your pinkies at this angle and flittle your middle thumbs, all of a sudden, we're like, oh my God, we haven't figured it out yet. But there's a group that knows, right? Follow me here.

They're like, Eddie and Brandon and Kevin, they don't even have to fly. It made a they knew how to fly their world would change. They'd be like, dang, I wish we'd been flying the whole time. But they don't know how to fly, so they're learning everything like they have to do on the ground. You know what I mean? Kind of. Kind of. I mean, I know what you're saying.

Cartoons are flying. But the problem is everyone watches cartoons. Everybody flies? Maybe. Possibly. Who cares, whatever. You're going to be a great dad, man. You can be a great dad.

Vegetables, too. All vegetables? Yeah. No candy? The best tasting vegetables are. sweets. You know what? That is possible. That's possible for them to just eat vegetables their whole life. That's possible. The 2026 NFL draft is here and the NFL Daily podcast has it covered from all angles. Join me, Greg Rosenthal and Jordan Roderig after night one on Thursday. Nick Shook

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Did you watch it? Yeah. Well. Oh, you watched the end of it? Oh, yeah, I watched the end of it. Were you betting on it? Of course. Oh, okay.

Yeah, all the nightcap games, those are my like makeup games. Dude, I'm so bad. Makeup games. He has a whole series of games because it's like PJ Fleck when he's like, we got the coming out zone. We got the, and he's got the makeup game section. I lose so much money during the day Saturdays that like Saturday night's my time to

make up money. And for the, maybe it's because I can lose more. Or lose more. That's happened too. But maybe it's because I can really focus on those games because there's only like three at the very end of the night. But man, that Florida State game, do justice for Florida State.

That was a touchdown. Like I know that they... Didn't they review it? But there was no video evident. They didn't have the camera angle that they needed. That's really what it came down to. They had a camera angle that was probably on the five-yard line that looked the other way so they really couldn't change it. Really?

In the highlights, I just saw they reviewed it and it wasn't a touchdown. But you're saying while watching it? Dude, watching it live, that was 100% a touchdown. I saw Florida State today had commented that Mike Neville is safe until the end of the year. Good. Good. So who knows what that means Dude but Tommy Castellano

That guy like dude He's the MVP of that game Like he he's the one that got He went down the field Maybe ran for like 40 yards And then got the targeting Boom hitting the head Dude he was dead for like

30 seconds Then they had to pull him out of the game The backup came in It was crazy Did you see it Kevin? I'm watching it right now So the backup comes in This is the last drive

They got like you know 10 seconds left He throws a Hail Mary They catch it at the 20 yard line With two seconds left he gets one more shot in the end zone pass in appearance I saw that on the highlight

so with zero on the clock they get one more play and I swear that was a touchdown they should have won that game you must have lost money because they didn't no I won I won't I won't I won money but after the fact

I'm just like money aside Florida State should have won it looks like a touchdown was it so close they could not overturn it because it wasn't absolute they just called it and it was so weird too

like those refs there was the ref on the near side the camera side and the ref on the the other side of the field. And dude, for three plays in a row, they were off on the, like, one was one yard that way, one was one yard the other way. They were just off on the calls.

So they'd always just meet in the middle and be like, short one yard. Speaking of money, Kevin did put in some betting futures, what, three months ago, two months ago? Yeah, one of them, the big dog, that was back in July when we had Diego Pavia in here. As soon as he left, I was like, man, why not? This guy thinks he knows he's going to win the highest. He did say he was going to win the Heisman. Yeah. He did say it.

I put $10 on it the day after he, or the day that he left. Wow. And that pays out $2,000 if he wins the Heisman. Does it have, can you do a cash out now? Because I think he's probably in the top six or seven now. Yeah. If Vanderbilt keeps winning, like that, he played great against LSU. What a great game.

I literally bet $10. bucks yesterday for him to win the Heisman. Because I was just like, this dude is like lights out. What does that pay? 11? $1.130? Really? That's pretty good, Brandon.

He's plus 700 right now. He's fourth right now. He is fourth. Wow. He's moved up. It was plus $2,200 yesterday. Who's won? Can I guess?

Oregon. Dante Moore. Nope. Okay, okay, okay. Let me guess again. Hirsch Walker. He already won it, man. Don't see him on the list.

Winns it again. Third time's a charm. Let me think. Who would be the favorite then? Oh, Indiana quarterback. Yep. Is Jeremiah love in the, is he in the race at all? No, I keep losing his helmet.

So they, after about the fifth time you lose your helmet, they'd hit up the list. Every time he gets tackled, his helmet comes off. He's eighth, Eddie. His whole game is him having to set out of play. It's like a checkerboard. Go in a play, sit out of play. They're like, what's wrong with you?

your straps. He's not wearing a chin strap. I have determined. Germinal love is not wearing a chin strap. It's like a leather head. Yeah, oh my God. It drives me crazy. I cannot catch out. You can't? Nope. That's a good bet, dude. 2,000. We are. Man, I had one. I had one bet that was like 10 touchdowns would pay me $30,000. One dollar to win $30,000. God. How many did you hit? You didn't get close. No, I'm just saying it's so cool to see the fact that I had a chance to win $30,000.

I got two people out of like, I don't know, eight players. Oh, you did 10 overall. I thought you meant like 10 in a game. No, it was all the noon games. I just went down and be like, all right. I had a 10-pick or a 10 parlay for quarterbacks just to throw a touchdown. And I had like nine. And then Jordan Luff, and I cashed out.

Oh, you did? I cashed out. What'd you bet? I bet. I think it was like $15 on, you know, each quarterback to throw two. Two touchdowns, right? What did you cash out at? How much money? It was, I think it was like $160.

I would have won $800, but he didn't do it. Oh, he didn't do it. So glad. So glad. Hey, when the Patriots went down, it was 10 to 3, I jumped on on Patriots minus two and a half, but 500 bucks. Ended up winning another 500 bucks. Oh, God. I was like, there's no way the Patriots lose this game.

The Titans are so bad. Dang. They covered that easily. Yeah, they did. Yeah. I mean, I could show it to you. Nice. In case you want to see it. I had a really good weekend. I think I ended up winning like $900 overall.

That's good. Won some, lost some. But I hit the over in the Arkansas Texas A&M game. The over was 57 and a half. They ended up scoring 97 points. Yeah. I was like that hit easy. They scored a bunch.

Well, what happened was, and this is not inside information, I knew the weather, because I knew it, was going to pour. So the over-under kept coming down. But I'll just look at the weather and go, like, it's not going to keep raining. And so much of the reason it was so low was because the weather factor. Yeah. I know the field would be wet, but it's like I used to work on a golf course.

They maintain them greens. Them greens get wet. You know what? They have science. So I knew that science was going to help. So I was like, oh, I'm betting over big time because it's not going to rain during the game. I wouldn't have touched it if it was running during the game. So unless my inside information is the radar app,

I was like, this is easy money. And so, yeah, 57 and a half. Dang. And they ended up scoring 87 points. That's cool. I did hit Arkansas plus 7 and a half. Now, hey, late, right? Didn't they score late?

Oh, yeah, they scored a touchdown with like 15 seconds left. Yeah. And you needed that? Well, here's the thing. They were going to score either way. They needed two scores. And had they not got it, they had a kick to field goal and tried the onside kick for a Hell Mary attempt, I figured they were going to cover.

I could only need was three points. Yeah. So you would cover by half either way. I'd have covered. But, I mean, it is Arkansas. That's true. So they would have let you down. Here's the thing, you can't say that. I'm not even talking crap on this. No, you can't say that.

He can't say what? Stuff like, well, it is Arkansas? I can say that. You can't say that. Who do you think you are, Kevin? Yes. It's wrong with you. Only I do that. Let me see.

Let me see here. Cash out. I do have tailing green one in the Hysmen still. bet 50 bucks for a $10,000 winner? I mean, he's a good player. Yeah. I just see another ones I won. I had the Bengals plus five and a half and they won the game

on Thursday. So I bet that. Amy told us to bet the bears in her psychic prediction. So I bet the bears minus four and a half and I put $250 on that. And it got close. I cashed out because the bears suck. And they ended up winning. They ended up covering big time. But I cashed out at $390. I bet $2.50 cashed out at $3.90. So I hit the Chiefs minus two and a half

Oh yeah No that was the Lions last week I was like minus two and a half That was safe No I'm lost in that one Man you stole that line Yeah yeah yeah yeah Okay that's it

Everybody good? Good man We'll see you later on this week Thanks to coach PJ Fleck I like that guy Yeah Just like his style's cool He's also

He's like got a good personality He's in his 40s him and I born the same year. Probably like some kind of like astrology stuff. It says, you know, just two awesome people. Just hanging out. Stars are, you know. He was born in 1980 like me.

We were watching some show, oh, my wife and I were watching the show called Wayward, and so it's on Netflix, and it's like a show back in time, but they're back in time in like 99. Let's go. That was our time, man. Well, this is what sucks.

What sucks is our times are now starting to be when they shoot the shows from back in time. That's okay. Like period pieces are starting to be back when our periods. Are they wearing Like loose little bagger clothes? Yeah, and the music's all lost And like they're playing all the songs

I'm like singing along and watch like Yeah I bet that's what old people feel like When they will make do oldy stuff You know like they go back to 1968 So yeah we had that That's rough All right that's it

Thank you guys We'll see you later on this week Appreciate you Eddie Blood the worst I gotcha All right Goodbye everybody Theme song written by Bobby Bones

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