The Bobby Bones Show - 25W: Bobby's New Dad-Fluencer Segment Idea + Eddie Gets Vulnerable with His Bets + CBS Sports Reporter Matt Norlander's Thoughts on Dan Hurley as a Person

Episode Date: April 3, 2026

Bobby brings the guys a new dad-fluencer segment idea he’s thinking about launching and tests out two possible names. That turns into a conversation about dad life, how it changes you, and the e...veryday stuff that comes with being a parent. Eddie also opens up about his bets in a more honest way than usual, and CBS Sports reporter Matt Norlander joins Bobby to talk about Dan Hurley, what he’s like personally, and why he’s such a fascinating figure in the sport.   Download the DraftKings Sportsbook App today: https://dkng.co/bobbysportsIf you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/MI/NJ/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/NH), 888-789-7777/visit http://ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 1-877-770-STOP (7867) (LA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), call/text TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA).21+ (18+ WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/LA/MI/NJ/ NY/PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. N/A in NH/OR/ON. New customers only. Valid 1 per new customer. Min. $5 deposit. Min $5 wager. $200 issued as eight (8) $25 free bets. Ends 9/19/22. See http://draftkings.com/sportsbook for details. Follow the Show: @25WhistlesSports  Follow the Crew: @MrBobbyBones @ProducerEddie @KickoffKevin @MikeDeestro @BrandonRayMusic See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:28 This is a podcast called 25 whistles. Talking basketball and they all wear a whistle. Yeah, it's stupid. You expect it's a podcast called 25 whistle. Everybody, welcome to the podcast. Show, blow it. All right, we're in. I saw that Josh Allen and Haley Stinfeld had their kid.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Hmm. You don't care? I didn't even know that she was pregnant. Really? Never, no. I feel like they just got married. Didn't they just get married, like, last year? I'm starting to not count on you as no one anything anymore.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Oh, man. I feel like she would just announce that she was pregnant. I feel like when you're the one that's not going through the pregnancy, obviously we're not going through it, but our wives, I feel like it goes so much faster. Man, I think we're all going through it. I think we're both going through the pregnancy. Husbands and wives. Well, we are, but I'm saying like somebody else goes through it. You don't agree with that?
Starting point is 00:04:24 No, my wife went through way more than I did. Oh, for sure. Like you're saying you went through equally. I mean, I hate it when people say we're pregnant. I don't like that. But in a way, you're both having the baby, so you're both pregnant. No, I'm going to disagree. Your life changes a bit, but as the dude, you physically don't have to deal with not being able to sleep,
Starting point is 00:04:44 being uncomfortable. Yeah, yeah. You physically, no. Okay. All right. Yeah. Especially after the baby comes, you're like, oh, wow, I'm cool. I can walk.
Starting point is 00:04:54 I can do it all. Like, give me the baby. And they're bed rid of. My body's exactly as it was the day before. Yeah. I can go work out the next day if I want to. It's crazy. You think it's equal.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Yeah. I mean, it's been a bit since I've gone through that. It's been nine years, no, nine years, 12 years since I've been through that. I would think in 50 years, I'm still going to think it's not equal. Yeah, dude. Okay. But you both. have the baby.
Starting point is 00:05:16 She had the baby. We now have a child. Yes. Okay. That makes sense. Josh Allen and Haley Steinfeld are the parents of a baby girl. They announced in her newsletter, I guess I don't subscribe to that. Wow.
Starting point is 00:05:30 That their daughter has been born without sharing any further specifics on the date or the baby's name. We're feeling incredibly grateful and blessed in savoring these early moments. Hey, let me ask you guys a question. So at a baby a few weeks ago. And I'm not starting a new podcast. I can't. have the capacity to start a new podcast. But definitely a segment and occasionally I'm doing on YouTube a new show, kind of. And I had two names that I came up with. And I'm curious to know
Starting point is 00:05:58 which name you guys like the best. I've already, I've already come to the conclusion of what I'm using. So we don't matter in this, but it didn't matter, but I'm just curious to what you think. I had two names because the thing is, so many people are asking questions all the time about the baby. And then I have artists going, hey, I want to come up and talk about you know, being a dad, and I'm like, I don't have time for a podcast. But occasionally, maybe I do an interview week, cut a part of it out. The two options I had were, number one, talk daddy to me. Nice.
Starting point is 00:06:26 I love that. Dude, I love it. I was going to say that. Nobody's using that? Yeah, that's shocking. I searched it. The only thing that we found was like a name of an episode for Boy Meets World. That was the other.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Oh, that was the other one? No, nobody's using it. There was no podcast called that. That is so good. You get on that now. I don't even don't want to hear the second one. The next one is Father Knows. So there's a saying called Father Knows Best.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Yeah. So with me it was Father Knows Less. Oh, that's good, dude. Because you guys are talking about fatherhood. It's just parents. So Father Knows Less. And it's also a television show, which I don't think a lot of people know, but Father Knows Best was a television show back in the day.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Black and White used to watch it on Nick at Night. That's how I knew about the saying Father Knows Best. Okay. But it's called Father Knows Less. Or it's called Talk Daddy to Me. Talk daddy to me Hands down They're both really good
Starting point is 00:07:19 But yeah That talk daddy Like if I were to see that somewhere I'd be like I need to check that up I'm so happy that you guys Pick that one Because that is not the one I picked
Starting point is 00:07:26 Dang it Yeah I'm so happy Yeah that one just felt like a little Too like sexual Like Yeah Huh Not your style or
Starting point is 00:07:36 Because daddy Daddy? Like talk daddy to me It's also talk dirty to me But also daddy And not only that Father knows less is me admitting I know very little about it
Starting point is 00:07:46 and so people aren't thinking I'm an expert. Okay. But I'm glad you guys pick dog daddy to me makes me feel like I'm in the right place. It's like when we're betting and Eddie picked a team and I didn't pick that team and picked the other team. I'm like, oh, I'm in the right place for this. You know when you do that, I drive home, sat, right?
Starting point is 00:07:59 You know that. Like when you say stuff like that, I'm just like, why does he say stuff like that? Like, basically everything I decide is wrong. Like I have those moments in my car. Everything, not true. A lot. Like the bet one, I'm just like.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Like, really? Like, every time I pick a team, they lose? Do you feel like his instincts are pretty bad? Yeah, they're consistent. Generally speaking. I feel like the stats, I don't have them in front of us, but they back it up. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:24 So that's, I was really hoping you guys pick talk daddy to me. It's like, two dudes or like, dude now. Well, now I'm like, dang, I'm stuck with Eddie over here now. Yeah, you're like me now. You're right home? Good luck today. Oh, dude. I'm going to be driving home today.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Oh, I thought you meant you were driving home for his right home. So how's your baby influencing going? Yeah, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's almost. pause. It's been on pause for a little while. Why? Man, it's just, you guys know, the social media game, it's a lot to keep up with. And Bobby does a great job of it, and I commend them for it. But you got to be so consistent all the time and every day, and we're so busy as it is with work. And I'm like, I just, it's hard to keep up with it nonstop, especially with no income coming in. I know you got to
Starting point is 00:09:07 start somewhere to get there. But that doesn't help you. Are the ideas still there? Like, do you still have the ideas coming in? Yeah, all the time, especially because we just, had their first plane ride. So I was like, oh, I could do another one. Like it's been like four months probably. But do it away. Another one. Like a, where I give advice on like how to make your life easier as a parent, new parent,
Starting point is 00:09:25 traveling for the first time with their baby. Like for us, the number one thing, we brought a car seat. We had to have to rigging car seat because we bought three chairs since we have two babies. And then having that car seat was huge because they got to sleep in the car seat. They got to play in the car seat. So you didn't have to really hold one the entire flight. And it was a long flight four hour flight. So that was.
Starting point is 00:09:44 was huge and you could put these little spinning things on the windows that could occupy them. So that's just an example of like something that made our life easier as first time flyers as parents. That sounds like a good segment of father knows less. What do you guys think about that? Yeah. I can pay 20 bucks and then you make a little money off that story. Let's do it. Let's do it. So you took a car seat on the plane, huh?
Starting point is 00:10:02 Yeah. Yeah. And it was. Is it there a two-seater? Just a one. You have two kids. Yeah. So legally, since you have two, you have to buy three seats because of the,
Starting point is 00:10:14 the oxygen mass and then you have you can have one lap child but you can't have two so what if you each have one lap child you can't have two in the same row got it two lap childs in the same row because there's only a certain amount of oxygen mass and there's not enough you know what I mean so if somebody else was sitting in the window seat like a random person and then it's us two in the seats and two lap child there's not enough mass to go around so legally you have to have that third seat and you have to have a car seat with them but we're like damn have you guys ever seen a car seat on a plane think about it. Never. Never. Right? Nope. That's what I thought too. Or maybe I've just never noticed. But I don't think I've ever seen a car seat on a plane. Same. When they said that, I was like,
Starting point is 00:10:51 what? Like, I've never seen one. What do you mean we have to? But thank God we had to because it was such a lifesaver, man. You know, there's one thing that I never thought of was Ubering. You know, and if you have a child that you're going to Uber with, you've got to have the car seats because Uber's don't have car seats in them. So I remember a situation where we were going to a concert or an event, like it's like a circus or something at Bridgestone. And we're like, well, okay, we'll take the car seat for the Uber, but what are we going to do with the car seat when we get to the event? Carried a kid in it the whole time?
Starting point is 00:11:20 You could do that. That's what I would think. So, no, but the cool thing is when you get to Bridgestone or a venue like that, you can actually check in strollers, car seats, and they hold it for you for the show. And then when you're done, you just give them the ticket and you get it right back. So that was kind of cool stuff you don't think about. Like, Uber's, we brought the baby in. They're just like, you can't bring the baby in.
Starting point is 00:11:40 There's no car seat here unless you have a car seat. And we're like, ooh, didn't know that. I think we wouldn't know that. And I would be stuck carrying the car seat the whole time. My wife would carry the baby until she got tired and we'd switch. Yeah. I don't know you could check it. See, this is a segment for Father's Knows Less.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Episode 1 happened right now maybe. Or Talk Daddy to Me. Talk Daddy. You two can have that one. That one feels purvy. The more I say it, the pervier that one feels. Isn't that a song, too? I just want to hear the intro. Talk Daddy to me.
Starting point is 00:12:07 I don't know. I thought I was always talk dirty to me. No, no, it is. It is talk dirty. but the song is talk dirty to me, right? Who is that? Poison. Yeah, but it's not talk daddy to me.
Starting point is 00:12:16 I know, but you can do a generic version for the intro. I'm not doing Talk Daddy to me. That's me and you, Eddie. Yeah, you two can have your own side. It's just you two talking to each other. No microphones. We do it all the time anyways, right? So you've quit on baby influencing.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Yeah, a whole other aspect too is, and I share my babies, the names, the faces, but I've also like, there's just a fine line that I struggle with, like, How much do you share them? How much do you want to share them? I know you guys don't share their faces and all that. Everyone's different, but that's where I struggle with too. So I'm like, do I want to put my baby's faces on there or not? And then I debate that all the time.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Like how much, how little? There's a guy that kills it as a dad influencer never puts his kids on. I get offered money constantly from baby companies. And I've not done any real content except I push a stroller through and write something on there. But I've not been paid for anything. And I get people, baby companies all the time coming in and going, hey, will you do this stroller or this bottle or this incident? I'm not going to do it.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. You say I have a couple other guys. Talk daddy to me. Wow, that's crazy. You turn those down, man. If I got one of those, I'd be like, yes. What do you want me to do?
Starting point is 00:13:30 I just don't want to be hawking something that I really don't use or don't believe in. And it's not like life-changing money. I get that. Yeah, you're in a different boat too. For you. Yeah. For you. If I did a lot of them, and that was constantly my job, and shout out to influencers,
Starting point is 00:13:47 we can make this a constant job, I think I would do that. But I do very little social media influencing. I mean, maybe one a year. And it's usually something that I'm already involved in in another way. But yeah, no, I get off for like five grand to do a, well, you do bottles and two posts. 100%. I'm already thinking like our kids are growing out of their first car seats already and I'm like, you got any car seat companies coming over to you over there?
Starting point is 00:14:14 Oh, no. Dang. I had a stroller company, but I don't use that stroller. I'm rolling across the screen and the stroller that we paid for. We've not gotten anything for free. And they're like, hey, what about our stroller? I'm like, I don't know if your thing is even any good. But no, I've not said yes to any of that stuff.
Starting point is 00:14:27 Kevin, what do you think about? I will. I might eventually, but no. What do you think about Bobby's posts? Do you like that? As an influencer yourself, do you like what Bobby's doing? Like with the baby content? Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Yeah. Yeah, baby content is always so good. Dude, it gets millions of views. Yeah, and I do nothing except roll a stroller across the strain. I feel like dogs and babies, like you can never go wrong with dogs and babies when it comes to content. Like, if somebody hates dog and baby content, like, you probably don't like that. That's true. You know?
Starting point is 00:14:51 Have you seen the video where there's a lady who's beating some eggs in a bowl and her baby's like watching her do it? And then she cracks the egg on the baby's head? Oh, yeah. So that's a trend that they did for a long time. You were the cheese. Yeah. Well, the cheese they would throw it in. slap it on the baby's head.
Starting point is 00:15:08 It was terrible, man. What would your life save me? She would never let me do that, ever. Eddie, how many teams can you name in the women's final four? Why would you do that to me? Maybe two. Okay, go ahead. Vanderbilt?
Starting point is 00:15:26 No. Okay. I get three strikes, right? Texas? Yeah, number one, C, Texas? I know the LSU they're out. Is Yukon? Number one-seat Yukon is in?
Starting point is 00:15:40 Thank goodness. Okay, I said three. I think you said two. Okay, good, so I made it. The other team has probably, it's probably the most winning team in the past decade. Really? Women's? Women's.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Oh, South Carolina. Correct. One seat, South Carolina? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you probably won't get the fourth one. There are one-seeds. So they're all one-seats in there? Women's basketball is like that.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Always. Really? Like, the winning teams do all the winning. and nobody has a chance when they play them. No, they won by like 30. Yeah, every game. So, number one, South Carolina versus number one, Yukon. Both Yukons are in the final four.
Starting point is 00:16:15 That's pretty cool. That's cool. Men and women. And number one, Texas, against number one, UCLA. Okay. Yeah. In Men's, which Saturday, you can name those four, right? Let me see.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Yeah, Illinois is playing Yukon and then Michigan's playing Arizona. At least a men's tournament, it's two ones, a two and a three. Still, the halves are the ones that are rising up. But man, in the women, it's all ones. Yeah. And an occasional two. And I mean, it was almost another one with Duke.
Starting point is 00:16:47 I mean, that was a crazy game. What do you mean, almost another one? That was just such a close game. The Yukon comes from a 19 point deficit. Like, it was almost like it wasn't supposed to be like that. I'm just saying in the men's tournament, you don't have to be a one. Yeah. Like, it rarely is it all four number ones.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Right. And the women, just mostly all four. number ones. Yeah. And I saw the other day that Yukon's on another just crazy streak. Remember when they used to have
Starting point is 00:17:09 these like all the time? Like winning streaks? Yeah. They won 54 in a row now. Dang. What? Yeah. That's what it says.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Going back from last year, 38. That's not that can't be true. Because they weren't undefeated. They weren't undefeated. Maybe conference, get tournament games. 38 start.
Starting point is 00:17:24 They can't be tournament. They didn't win the tournament last year. They won 508, what? Has an active 54-game winning streak. Spanning from the end of the 2024 and 25 season through. No way. The U-Conn's not undefeated.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Women's. Oh, you didn't say that. I didn't know what the men. Our sex's brain goes right now. We didn't even hear it. No, he didn't clarify. He might have, but we didn't hear it. You guys were just thinking about the men.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Yes. Our sexist brains were hard at work. I tried to set it up with, remember Yukon's women's used. I don't even know if I said. I probably didn't say women's. Usually going all these winning streaks back in the day within like five years in a row. They're that dominant.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Again. How many Yukon women's basketball players can you name? I'll go first. Rebecca Lowe. Oh, all time. All time. Diana Tarasi. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the blonde hair girl. Sabrina? Sabrina? I think she played it West Coast. Carpenter? Sabrina. What's her last?
Starting point is 00:18:20 Iosco. Yeah, Ayosco, that one. I don't think, I'm almost positive she played at Oregon. I feel like she played Oregon, yeah. Okay. I think you have another one. Blonde girl, a ponytail. That's every blonde girl that plays.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Who am my best. thinking about. I can go another one. Yeah, I got one more of me. Do you have pagebackers? No. You don't get that one. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:18:42 You didn't say it. Brina Stewart. Don't know what that is. Dang, Paige Becker's the one else. Cahlin Clark. She never play for him? Never? No.
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Starting point is 00:23:49 Why? For what reason? No reason. Honestly, I've been so busy and then I just sit down and watch the game and I don't even think about it. This is the first year in like probably 10 years where I've made money off the tournament. Okay, here we go. I'm serious. Because earlier we said when you bet something, we want to be on the other side of it. That's why I'm saying this.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Yeah, we need to see your stats. You guys are wrong. Pull your drafting stats up. What do you want? He hasn't shared any of his bets with us. That's true. And I'll throw mine out there. I'll put mine in the group text.
Starting point is 00:24:17 I'm like, guys, this is what I'm doing. You can jump if you want. Yeah. I'm not doing that now. Do the stats. Now is the point where it's like I couldn't tell you who's going to win any of these games. But what do you want here? Take over my account.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Take over my account. Okay. Let's see. If I go to Eddie's... Come on. Let's go. My stat sheet. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Let's do... The month. The month. Last month. Yeah, because that's... You wagered 900. Oh, God, when you put it that way. Your total winnings were 880.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Oh, minus 20 bucks. Dang, so I'm down 20 bucks. This month you got nothing in. So you lied. April. I haven't bet. Yeah, but last month you, now, dude, you weren't winning. Well, okay.
Starting point is 00:25:08 This year, let's do this year with Eddie. Okay, okay. Because a little... Oh, this year is not good. Oh. Total wager, $2,395. Dang, Eddie. One, $2,046.
Starting point is 00:25:20 That's close. Minus $3.40. No, where's your winning you're talking about? No, no, no, I'm telling you, I've been winning. I think some of these losses are other sports. Like, I'll do NASCAR, I didn't win on that. But basketball, I've been hitting them, baby. You want all time?
Starting point is 00:25:33 No, no, no, no, dude. You'll ruin my day. Give that back. Give that back. We're not doing... I hit all time. Give it to us. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:25:42 My wife will listen to this. She will never listen to this. Well, people send her stuff. Okay, if that's true, then I... Bobby's going to say it, don't send her anything, guys. No, I don't have to. Because it's between us. If that's true, I won't say it.
Starting point is 00:25:54 If she hears that number. Did she ever find out about skins? Nope. Nope. But then so she doesn't listen. Yeah. She's, I don't know how she didn't find out about that. Okay, so then I won't read it.
Starting point is 00:26:06 That's bad. Rate the badness. I don't know. What is your scale? If you've lost over $1,000, that's pretty bad. All time? How far are we going back there? Yeah, when did I start directing?
Starting point is 00:26:18 I don't have your entire biography here, bro. All I have it My portfolio What did my problem begin? Okay, let's see I would guess that I started Probably five years ago Okay
Starting point is 00:26:27 And what do you think you lose a year? I probably lose a year It was $50 a month So 600 bucks would be that number Yeah And then I would Sometimes I would do more
Starting point is 00:26:39 Like on my birthday I would do 100 I would say I probably 1,500 a year Wow So if you lose $1,500 a year That's a terrible
Starting point is 00:26:49 It's terrible. Do you want to know your number? Maybe. You have lost all time $4,874.8.74. Oh, that's not bad. Okay. Okay, that's better one. That's better than I thought.
Starting point is 00:27:04 That makes me feel better. Yeah. I think you've got that much entertainment out of it over the best. Because that's what this is, right? Totally. Oh, for sure. We're not trying to bet to make, we would like to make money, yes. But our betting is entertainment purposes.
Starting point is 00:27:15 And my excuse to my wife always was just like, you know, I've got to watch a lot of these games for our podcast. I got to know what's going on. So it helps for me to bet a little bit on it. Then I get a little interest and I watch all these games. Yeah, you're at $4,800 and $0.41.41. So it's a $5,000 investment. But last year, you had a bad year, dude.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Last year you lost $2,100. Half of that was last year. I think we all did, right? Wasn't last year bad for us? Don't put me in the same category. Hey, we're not trying to jump into your boat. Did you have a bad year last year? I've had bad years.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Yeah. Last year was probably a bad year for me. All right. Well, that's better than I thought. Nice, too. so you can drive home happy today. Yes, and then my Calcutta. I have Illinois, who I bought for $90, so I'm still,
Starting point is 00:27:54 I'm rocking and rolling. Yeah. They could win. I don't think they will, but they could win. I did get a deal on offer. Our buddy Steve has Yukon, and he hit me up and was like, hey, let's just make a deal where we just split the money. Well, the difference is one of you then plays the championship game.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Well, we don't get the money on that one. Just on this game, we get the money. But then you have to do the math, I'll subtract. I want to do that. It's too confusing. And plus, I feel like I have the upper hand with Illinois. Good for you. I wouldn't, but I don't think it's crazy close.
Starting point is 00:28:24 I mean, I don't think it's far. Illinois is played out of their minds. Illinois, I think, is a one-point favorite. Now, does that have to do because they're closer to Indianapolis? I don't know if that would affect a home game, not being the same state that you're from, but like the neighboring state. No. Especially Yukon's fan base. I mean, basketball-wise, they're pretty widespread.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Because what was that game? Is it Michigan or something? I mean, it was all Michigan fans there. Do you guys think Tiger Woods was kind of lame when he goes, I just talked to the president? For sure. This dude. He's a bad dude anyway. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:57 But now he's like bad dude when he's over and over again putting other people's lives in danger. If he still played Sunday, next Sunday at the matchup, let's go Tiger. You're in. We're right. We're in there. We're in red and black. He's all wearing red and red. We're all wearing red.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Yeah. Like Tiger Woods is a bad dude. Yeah. At this point, it's like you can't. How do you stick up for him? But to your point, I would root for him. Who sticks up for him personally? Like, fans, not people that know him.
Starting point is 00:29:23 I get that. Like, you know him, he's a friend of yours, I get that. But, like, fans, who sticks up for him personally? Nobody. Nobody does. Nobody knows them, though. Right. But yeah, yeah, yeah, but they're a lovable celebrities where, like, they do something wrong.
Starting point is 00:29:35 Like, I don't know. I love that. I think he's had so many things happen that nobody sticks up from personally. And then, so I was just talking to calling the president when you see in the body cam. Come on, dude. Yeah, like, okay. Is that like Morgan Wall and calling Chief? Eric Church.
Starting point is 00:29:53 Hey, man, I'm at your bar. They're trying to arrest me. But the president is a whole other level. It is another level. But he's also dating the president's whatever. No, he's dating the president's son's former wife, ex-wife. Is that right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:30:09 The former wife? Yeah, he's dating Eric's ex-wife. Okay. But he's dating his... Oh, so she's a Trump by name. Yes. But her daughter is the president's granddaughter. Yes.
Starting point is 00:30:20 So he's dating the president's granddaughter's mom. Yes. What's up with the hiccups too in the car? He had the hiccups? He never had hiccups? Like when you're all messed up? Well, yeah, when I'm drinking. He wasn't drinking.
Starting point is 00:30:37 He wasn't drinking. I know, but he's got some other stuff in the system. Who knows? I don't know. Does the pill give you hiccups? Not that I know. My Zyrtec doesn't give me hiccups. That's a good point.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Mine doesn't either. Although I stay super dry. With allergy stuff? Because I'd shoot medicine up my nose. The prescription allergy medicine. Man, but what sucks is it dries me out a little bit. And then it just tastes bad in my throat all day long. Like that drip back there.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Yeah, it's like almost. I'd rather just have allergies. But I went and got allergy shots with 12 year olds for... With 12 years? Because mostly it's kids. I did that when I was a kid. I did an episode of Todd Gaddy to me at the allergy place. Hey, are you sitting there?
Starting point is 00:31:17 In that waiting room with all the kids? It's me and a ton of kids and their parents. And so my allergies were so bad, my doctor was like, you need to have something. Like, let me send you to the allergist. And so I go to the allergist. They do the test on me. She's like, you have so many things you're allergic to. So what I would recommend is you come in for shots every week.
Starting point is 00:31:35 And so it was like a two-year deal. I went about a year and then I just stopped going. I think I was on a vacation and a work trip and I missed like four in a row. And I was like, I'm not going back. But I'm convinced that going for at least a year has helped me. tremendously. Really? Man, I want to jinx it, but usually once a year I lose my voice completely.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Allergies, especially where we live. Yeah. Oh, yeah. They're so bad here. Yep. So, but I haven't done that. I take my allergy medicine. My nose is just so bad, though, now.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Does yours it? Mm-hmm. I feel like everything you're talking about, I have it. Like, you would think I was like, I've never even seen cocaine, but like I mess my nose so much. Yeah. It looks like you're on it, too. Have you guys speaking of cocaine?
Starting point is 00:32:10 Have you seen the Lamar-Odom? Documentary? No, but I want to. Got to watch it. The little teaser that they put on it, you know, when you hover over the thumbnail. Yeah, got to watch it. Looks good. It's just wild.
Starting point is 00:32:23 And especially his life, obviously, we didn't know, or I didn't know, about his upbringing, lost his mom at a young age. They get into this right in the beginning. And his dad left when he was young and he was a drug addict and all that. So he went through a lot as a child and then the Kardashian marriage. That built around that. And he just went down a crazy, just a wild path for a couple years. Like the girl that he was hooking up with, like, call him.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Yeah. Who was he dating? Chloe. Yeah, Chloe. And said, let, I'm banging your boyfriend? Were they married? No husband.
Starting point is 00:32:53 I'm banging your husband. He cheated a lot. A lot. But sort of Tristan Thompson. True. Yeah. But Tristan, I mean, Lamar talks about how much like Coke and freebase and some stuff
Starting point is 00:33:03 just to get around the NBA drug protocol. It was wild. So, you liked it? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Did you finish it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:09 I got 20 minutes left. Oh. So, so when I met my wife. She was living in California. She was finishing up grad school. And so I had met her through my old PR person who is from Oklahoma. You're going to see where this goes.
Starting point is 00:33:26 I'm going to get to Lamar Odom. I'll lay the story is going to connect to Lamar Odom. So at American Idol and Dancing with the Stars, I had a PR person that specifically was on me and a couple of other people. And she was from Oklahoma. So I spent a lot of time with her through multiple seasons of the show. She had a friend. It was Caitlin, who's from Oklahoma that she went to college with.
Starting point is 00:33:45 And so Caitlin was in California. and she was going to grad school. Caitlin had already graduated from college, went into the workforce, was doing international commodities, oil and gas, living in Houston, and decided she wanted to get a master so she could make more money, basically,
Starting point is 00:33:59 so she could do that job remotely. So she's in California. I end up meeting Caitlin through this other girl, who was my PR person. And so I'm flying back and forth, and Caitlin and I started dating, and I said, hey, I'm coming in because I'm going to do, I'm going to be at Dancing with the Stars
Starting point is 00:34:15 for the first episode of this new season. It was the season Lauren Elena was on. So I was going out there to support her. I said, hey, why don't you go with my date? And she was like, I don't know. Sure. She didn't really know we're going to be on TV, but they put us right in the front.
Starting point is 00:34:28 So it's me, it's Caitlin. We're sitting at a table, and I think Emmett Smith was sitting at the table with us, and somebody that Emmett was with. And then after that show, there's a party, there's the first episode party at like a restaurant. And it's a lot of the people from that. season. One of the people from that season was Lamar Odom. I'm almost certain, unless he was there
Starting point is 00:34:50 from another season, he was at that party. You may check and see if Lamar Odom was that season, but he was there. And so I don't know Caitlin very well. We've been on a couple dates. And so my wife is very funny, though. And so we're walking by and she goes, that's Lamar Odom. And he was sitting down in like a back stall. And I was like, yeah, and we're walking by. And she goes, justice for Chloe. As we're walking by. Did he hear? It was loud. Probably not.
Starting point is 00:35:18 But I remember thinking, this chick's funny. That's great. Especially to have like the balls to say something. Yeah, she did like a cup. Just for Chloe. Mike? Yeah, it was in 2019. That was it.
Starting point is 00:35:29 The Lauren Atlanta season? Yep. Dang. So yeah. So I've not met him. I've been near him. But he was doing dancing with the stars. You may not know the answer to this.
Starting point is 00:35:39 But like, how does someone decide that like, I'm just going to do a documentary and I'm going to tell my whole story? Is it money? Does the producer come out? Yeah, there's probably some money behind it. Yeah, because it's a story that people will be interested in. They even, the bed that he overdosed in, like it's some... You get a bad overdose?
Starting point is 00:35:56 Yeah, yeah, really bad. Out in Vegas. This is it at the Bunny Ranch or? Yep, exactly. Out in Vegas. Dang, you're going hard if you're overdosing and you're at the Bunny Ranch, you're drugging and prostitin. And then the guy who owned it, like, turned that bed into, like, now people can come, like, see it.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Not see it. It's weird, but... They can do it. in it? Probably. Yes. That's what I went. I'm trying to think a touristy thing. Wow.
Starting point is 00:36:18 All right, what do you guys want to do? Grand Canyon. All right, kids, you decide. I want to go to the Lamar overdose bed at the Bunny Ranch. It's wild, dude. Dang. I don't know that I'm interested enough to watch it for an hour and a half, but I'm definitely interested enough to hear the stories from it.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Yeah. Okay. Well, when I finished it, like I said, I got about 20 minutes. I had to take off when I was watching it. But I'm going to finish it. And it's crazy. And then even the whole, like, Kardashian thing, thing, he pretty much married her just because he wanted to be more famous than he already was.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Did he say that? Yeah. Yeah. He's like, I loved her, but I wanted to, you know, get to another level. He's like, I wanted to be an AA Lister. Dang. Yeah. It worked.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Yeah. Oh, yeah. We're talking about him now, not because he was a basketball player with drug problems, but he was a basketball player with drug problems who we know mostly from the Kardashians. Yes. And then they had their own series, Chloe and Lamar or something. Oh, they did? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:08 And she was like, I didn't want to do it. She's like, we're already doing our family thing. I didn't want to do it, but he wanted to do it so bad. and he got so excited that I was like, all right, let's just do it. So she's in it too? Oh, she's in it a lot. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:19 And then his, oh, yeah, there's a story about it. David, kid? Because I know she does with Tristan Thompson. No. At least all that I've seen, they don't have a kid, but he's got a couple kids with a form with a high school. And he basically like,
Starting point is 00:37:33 man, basketball players, they just cheat. It's not a Lamar thing. It's not a Tristan Thompson thing. It's not if you are with the Kardashian, you cheat. If you're a basketball player, for the most part, you're on the road. You're cheating.
Starting point is 00:37:43 Yeah. It's like artists, like musical artists. I think I said 50% of artists, it's a bit different because they're just weekending it. Where basketball players can be on the road for a week at a time, bouncing in different cities. What about baseball players? Because they kind of have the same schedule, right? I don't know many baseball players. Because it's got to be the schedule.
Starting point is 00:38:01 But also, you're playing day games sometime in baseball. Yeah, and I think there's so many games in baseball. Or pitchers, pitchers, right? They travel with a team, but they only have one game to pitch. The Wizards apologize for their April 4th. full stunt and I wish they wouldn't have apologized. So weak. It was so dumb to apologize. Everybody stopped apologizing for everything. So they did this
Starting point is 00:38:19 bit. It was a half-court shot. And so just what the video was, this guy's blindfolded, he shoots the half-course shot, misses big time. But everybody starts jumping around and celebrating like you won. And they're like, we got April Full's joke on for $10,000. The thing was, even if
Starting point is 00:38:36 they did the joke, that's funny, on the person. Let's say the person wasn't in on the joke, but the person was in on the joke. Even the person who shot the ball was in on the joke. So who are they apologizing to? Us, because they got us? We apologized for last night's April Fool's joke that left many wondering if we had misled a fan. The skid involving our mascot and other members of our performance team was scripted and intended to celebrate that day. All participants weren't on the joke, but we missed the mark.
Starting point is 00:38:57 There's no mark you missed. No, it's perfect. Stop apologizing for everything. So that happened. Yeah, I would get it if they totally messed with that person. Yeah, made them look like a fool. I get that. That's an apology.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Didn't give them any money. Yeah, and you can, when you watch the video, I mean, you can kind of tell he was in on it. it's easy to tell after you know I saw it before they apologize It's like the Yukon shot I knew that was going in You have to stop No these are
Starting point is 00:39:24 I'm two for two here Afterward he claims what he knew Yeah No I watched it before they apologize I was like ah you might be in on it You'll watch the video You'll know I watched the video
Starting point is 00:39:32 You're talking to me Before before Now you know I think everybody's in on everything Yeah That's because So I'm so cynical I think everything is a bit
Starting point is 00:39:42 Or a stunt Yeah, yeah. So I probably thought, oh, this is all a bit, and they're fooling the fans. It's like 80% of marriage proposals that go wrong. They're all set up. If it's a marriage proposal that goes wrong on a Jumbotron is set up. I agree with that. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Yeah, that's true. What about that clip you sent me last night? The jump rope guy? Yeah. Can we pull that up? So there's a guy who set a world record for jump roping. Have you seen this club, Kevin? No.
Starting point is 00:40:07 So I sent it to Ed's... Yeah, he did 288 jumps in 10 seconds. Watch this. His feet are moving so fast. It looks like a blur. You don't believe that's real? No. It's not real.
Starting point is 00:40:30 It's a world record. What are you talking about? It's not real. There's nothing more real than that. As soon as it stops, like his feet just reappear. I'll be honest, though. You watch it twice three times. Is it real?
Starting point is 00:40:43 Watch it again. I don't think it's real. I don't know why you guys are going. It's not real. Are you joking? You guys are joking. You all are joking. Have you learned that it's AI?
Starting point is 00:40:56 Because this is real to me. No, I've learned that. people don't say that it's AI when it is AI. No, but you get fooled by AI all the time. To me, this feels, this feels real. Can you Google? I mean, I can do it here. What's the world?
Starting point is 00:41:11 It says it is real. Yeah, that's real. Who says it's real? How do you count that too? They can slow it down. They have to slow it down to count it. I can't believe you thought that was fake. You think everything fake is real.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Correct. And now you think real, real things are fake. Well, that's what happens. When you get fooled so many times, you're like, nothing's real anymore. Even if it is real. Everything's a real record. Everything's a big.
Starting point is 00:41:28 Nothing's real. You thought that was fake? I wouldn't have said you something fake. I thought you were just trying to be funny. And I'd already seen it and I'd already made up my mind that that was fake.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Here you go. This is, I have it right here, the world record for the most single rope jumps and I have 30 seconds. I have 10 seconds. Is it the same dude
Starting point is 00:41:50 that's broken the record? This guy's name that I'm reading now for 30 seconds is Sin Zyelen, so I don't know. Mike, what do you see over there? Yeah, that's what I'm seeing. But yeah, getting his world record.
Starting point is 00:42:00 Man, his technique is kind of... Admit it, you're wrong. That's real. I was wrong. I was wrong. Yeah, me too. I have no problem admitting that I thought that was real. Or I thought that was fake.
Starting point is 00:42:08 World record. It's right here. It's the same guy. Sin, Zyelen, 10 seconds, 228 jumps. In Shanghai. That's what... We play it again. Now, you guys, you know what's real.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Let's watch it. Okay. But watch my hand. Look at my hand. It looks like you're glition. Look at my hand. You can't keep your eyes on it because it's so fast. And I just put my hand back and forth.
Starting point is 00:42:38 This is the same thing. Can you see my hand? No, it's a blur. It's a big hand. It's what his feet are doing. I mean, how do you prepare for that? How do you train for that? The technique he's using is almost like the technique we use on the power pad.
Starting point is 00:42:51 You remember that? Yeah. Slap. But we would get down on our hands and do power pad. No, I would do feet, but I would do it like just where I'm barely lifting. That's what he's doing. It's a power pad. So it was the thing Nintendo had back in the day.
Starting point is 00:43:03 And you could do track and field. was a great game, and you rolled the pad out and it gave you two little things. We used to get down on our knees and hit it with our hands. Oh. But you could do feet too. You're supposed to do feet, and you would run on it and the hurdle would come, you jump.
Starting point is 00:43:15 So like a wee kind of thing, but... Yeah, but with a pad. Before all that, yeah. Interesting. Yeah. And Cheetah was the fastest dude you had to beat. Cheetah was... Yeah, that sounds about right when his name is Cheetah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:25 And hippo, one of the first is the slow ones. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The fact that you thought that was fake? Of course. You're fooled by everything, and then you think, I think everything real is false. Because I'm trying to turn to that like mindset of thinking that, you know what, don't fall for everything.
Starting point is 00:43:41 It's just fake until proven true. Okay, but one simple Google proves it true. I know, but then I feel Google's in on it too, you know? Google's in on it. Can you just keep going with this joke? The guy who believes everything thinks Google's in on the conspiracy. Google's in on it. Okay, that's it.
Starting point is 00:43:57 We're going to take a break now and talk some real basketball. Eddie, look, this is the same guy for 30 seconds. Wow, on the Guinness World Record site. That's the same guy. Same dude. How thin is that right, too? Yeah, look at that, boom. I don't even see the road.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Oh, there it is. You can see a little bit of it. And he's bent all the way over like he's hunched over. Wow. That's pretty cool. That's crazy. So this is the, he's the man for jump roping. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:49:13 or wherever you get your podcasts. We're going to go over now to Matt Norland. from CBS Sports, senior writer, college basketball insider, analyst and co-host of the ION college basketball podcast. He's there at the Final Four this weekend.
Starting point is 00:49:30 You can follow him on Twitter at Matt Norlander. And again, the Ion College Basketball podcast. All right, big thanks to Matt for coming on. Here he is. Matt, I was reading your article on Bill Self returning to Kansas. Is he for sure back
Starting point is 00:49:42 or would he do a Bruce Pearl and stay until it's so close to the time that he can retire and then pick his own successor? It's interesting you bring that up. I think there is a chance that could still be on the table. But I think the intention here is just for him to return for another full season at least. And, you know, I'm glad to see that.
Starting point is 00:50:01 But never say never. I think there's a mild possibility that he could get to October. And who knows? Because the biggest part of self-doing this in deciding here and now is health. He's had multiple stents put in. He's had multiple heart issues. But, you know, he's told me multiple times. that as long as he was still feeling good, he was going to continue to coach.
Starting point is 00:50:24 So my prediction would be that it means that he will indeed coach out. You know, I would never say that with 100% clarity. So you guys on your podcast, Ion College Basketball, are you guys doing a lot of talk about the coaching? I don't want to call it Carousel. That's very a football thing. But are you guys talking about that a lot? And what are you doing with the North Carolina job at this point?
Starting point is 00:50:43 Well, we talk about all of it on the Ion College Basketball podcast. And you can't call it to coaching Carousel. That is in the vernacular as well. Carolina is the big one. And as I talked to you here on Thursday morning, we're getting ready for a day's worth of media availability here at the final four. We've got a very unusual situation in that the North Carolina job is open. That's unquestionably one of the four best jobs of college basketball.
Starting point is 00:51:08 And as that job is open, there are two candidates for that job that are actually facing each other in the final four. In Arizona's Tommy Lloyd, don't know if either of them you wind up taking the job. job, but to the best of my knowledge, I went back and did a deep dive. This is the first time this has ever happened. We have never had a Final Four or National Title game situation in men's college basketball where two primary candidates for an open job elsewhere in the sport happened to be facing off for their own respective teams there. So yeah, we talk about
Starting point is 00:51:36 the Carousel on the I on college basketball podcast, obviously plenty of deep dives on all the other stuff there as well. I appreciate you mentioning that. But the North Carolina opening, you know, it is kind of dangling above the Final Four here in Indianapolis. No question about it. You cut out a little bit. I'm assuming Dusty May is the other person that you said when you're talking about the coaches. Yeah. If I cut out a little bit, my apologies there. I'm at the mercy of the Wi-Fi here at Lucas Oil Stadium. But yes, Dusty May at Michigan, Tommy Lloyd at Arizona. And then Billy Donovan with the Chicago Bulls are the three primary targets right now, North Carolina. And it's opening as we speak here today. There's no clear indication if any of them is more likely than the other to say yes. If you were making that call, I feel like Billy Donovan will be the guy if you can get him to leave Chicago, leave the luxurious life of the NBA. What direction would you go?
Starting point is 00:52:20 If it was, well, if I knew that the, if I knew that the candidate would say yes, I would go Tommy Lloyd over over the other two. And it would be by very narrow margins there. Tommy Lloyd has done an outstanding job at one of the top ten jobs in the sport at Arizona. He has worked in this portal in an IL era, understand what's about. He's got more wins through the first five seasons of his career than any coach in the history of the sport has had through their first five seasons coaching men's college basketball. So if I knew I was getting a yes from Tommy, Lloyd and I knew I was getting a guest from Dusty May and I knew that I was getting a guest from Billy Donovan, which I don't think is going to be the case for North Carolina. I don't think all
Starting point is 00:52:55 three are going to say yes. But if I knew I was getting yeses across the board and I got to pick, I would take Tommy Lloyd. Now, Donovan's an interesting one because he has more deep experience into the tournament, a couple national championships, of course, multi, you know, what, three final four trips overall, but he hasn't been in the sport for more than a decade. Now, that's not to say that he can't return and have a lot of success. He could, but the other dynamic with Billy Donovan to keep in mind is that everyone kind of expects there to be a changing of the guard with the Chicago Bulls franchise. But there's going to be eight, nine, ten jobs that change over at the NBA level this spring. And as was laid out to me by a well-connected NBA source earlier
Starting point is 00:53:31 this week, there aren't really eight or nine or ten obvious candidates to fill those positions. So that means that if Billy Donovan wants to remain an NBA coach, he'll have one or two other spots that are going to open that he could get those jobs if he wanted. So just keep that in mind as well. There's a lot of talk about how he'd be open to going back to North Carolina or going to North Carolina to go back to college basketball. And I think that is possible, but don't underestimate the overall appeal of coaching in the NBA. And Billy Donovan will be no short, there'll be no shortage of options. What are your thoughts on Dan Hurley as a dude? Dan Hurley is one of the great characters in all of American sports. I know Dan well. I've known him for more than a decade.
Starting point is 00:54:08 He is authentically himself that can sometimes get him into trouble. I often find his natural personality to be entertaining, sometimes downright funny. Does he cross the line? Yes, he has, unquestionably so. But he is so very much himself. And I appreciate the fact that, you know, in the 70s and in the 80s and in the 90s, college football, college basketball, the lore of these sports was built out in part by the personalities and the characters of the coaches.
Starting point is 00:54:38 And as, you know, over the past 20 years, a lot of that has been stripped away from mainstream American sports and the coaching profession at any level, you know, professional football, baseball, basketball. The college ranks still have kept some of that personality. But it's a selling point for the sport to have coaches who are not overly guarded, who do not give a pan, you know, trite, cliche answers. And so Hurley has become the face to the sport while winning at a level that is outrageous. The fact that he has now brought a Yukon program back to the final four for the third time in four years is amazing. And his star senior, Alex Caraband, he readies for this game against Illinois on Saturday with a 17 and one record in the NCAA tournament, which is astounding. So they're going to play Illinois again. This is a rematch.
Starting point is 00:55:25 Have these teams changed at all since they played the first time? Yes, they have. They're definitely different teams. They played back the day after Thanksgiving at Madison Square Garden. it looked like they were playing in a level of Super Mario Brothers because the Knicks floor was still with that NBA Cup deal back then. It was a very, very weird watch. But Keaton Wogler, who's an outstanding player for Illinois and one of the best freshmen in the country, one of the best players in the country, despite not being a four star or even a five-star prospect, he didn't really play a ton and didn't play that well in that game. He has since emerged to be just a stud.
Starting point is 00:55:55 So does the fact that Yukon won with ease over Illinois essentially more than four months ago, does it matter that much? I really don't think it does. the personnel is obviously mostly the same, but I don't think that has too much of a factor. But there is a certain mental edge that this coaching staff with Yukon has because it wasn't just the win this season that they comfortably got it done. Even though a lot of the personnel on the court was different, two years ago, I was there in Boston in the elite eight. So just one round earlier than this right now, Yukon eviscerated Illinois.
Starting point is 00:56:24 And at one point went on a 30 to 30 to nothing run in that game. I'd never seen anything like it. I wonder if that actually winds up being a. a significant advantage, just on the coaching end and the prep end. I don't know if it will or won't, but that's a very, very good game. I could see either of those two teams winning. I wouldn't take too much stock into the fact that the Huskies were able to win with some ease against the Lini back at the end of November.
Starting point is 00:56:47 I have two questions for you left. To me, just eyeballing it, Michigan and Arizona have been the dominant teams in the tournament. And as just an eyeball guy, it's like, I don't know, whoever wins this, probably has the edge to win the whole thing. Your thoughts on this matchup, and do you feel the same way about those two teams? The matchup is phenomenal. The winner of that game on Saturday is going to be favored to win the title. But there have been plenty of instances over the years.
Starting point is 00:57:10 And we don't get this every single year, but there have been plenty of instances over the years where one final four matchup clearly seems to have the two best teams of the four in the national semis. And then the winner of that game doesn't win the national title. So Yukon and Illinois are both capable of winning two more. All of these, I could see, it's not hard for me, Bobby. It's not hard for me to envision any of these teams being on the floor, confetti on the, on. the court on late Monday night here in Indianapolis and getting it done. But these two, yes, they've been incredible.
Starting point is 00:57:38 I've had the good fortune of seeing Arizona. I saw Arizona win at Yukon back. Arizona win a tough game on the road against AJ DeBonsa, the nation's leading score at the end of January at BYU. I saw Arizona win the Big 12th championship in person in Kansas City and in the process of doing that beat Iowa
Starting point is 00:57:54 State and made it the game of the year. A buzzer beater courtesy of Jaden Bradley that transpired at the end of that incredible 40 minute battle. And I just was in San Jose last weekend and saw Arizona escape the West Regional. They've been incredible. I've also saw Michigan in person multiple times the season, including when they beat Gonzaga by 40,
Starting point is 00:58:11 and they also beat San Diego State and Auburn by 30, and that just humongously impressive run in the Players Era Championship back in Vegas and November. So if it was the national title game, sure, it'd be incredible, it'd be amazing, but that's not how the bracket works. We were both put on the right side of the bracket. They're going to square off here on Saturday.
Starting point is 00:58:27 And what I think, Bobby, is if both teams, I've said this a couple times earlier this week, And I genuinely believe it. If Arizona and Michigan on Saturday are able to play to their absolute peaks, if each of those teams and each of those coaches bring out the best in each other, then we have the potential for one of the best college basketball games that we've seen this decade. We'll see if both can do it or if one side really gets the edge over the other. My final question is very portal related.
Starting point is 00:58:51 It's not officially open. You can't go for business yet, but everybody's declaring. And you have some kids that are already committing, and again, the portal's not even open. but these coaches that are involved in the final four, they've got to be doing double duty right now, right? Yeah, to a certain extent, yes. Now, it's not as bad as it was a couple years ago. I actually remember literally going into the Yukon locker room in 24.
Starting point is 00:59:11 Maybe it was 23. They went to your title, some of the stuff that leads together there. But as I was going in there, like I quite literally saw on a Zoom call with the transfer. Now, at that point, the portal was open. Thankfully, they have changed the rule so players can't officially go in. Now, nothing stopping these players from announcing that they're going to go into the portal. I understand that can and will happen and that's fine. But from an official contact standpoint, like, yeah, coach has probably got a little bit of that going on.
Starting point is 00:59:36 But based on my conversations, it's not as overwhelming as it was last year, the year before, and the year before that. It's an inevitability with this sport. This is one of those good problems that you'd like to have. You'd like to still be here at the Final Four. And if that means that, yes, you've got a roster manage a little bit and have a couple of agents reaching out to your staff about potential guys that might be wanting to come to your program. It's not the most fun thing in the world, but it's much better than the alternative
Starting point is 00:59:58 and that's sitting at home watching the Final Four from your living room. So it's still a better system than college football. I mean, college football's calendar and its portal cycle is much worse than on the hoops end here. At the very least, the portal will not officially open until next Tuesday. And then we're off to the races and free agency, really, it will be a mega spree in the ensuing month there in college basketball. All right, Matt Norlander, and check out the eye on college basketball podcast. He does with Gary Parrish. And CBSSports.com has his article, great article on Bill Self,
Starting point is 01:00:27 that went up. Matt, thank you. Hope you have a great weekend. I hope we can see some good games. Just close games is all I want. Hey, and I'm going to promo one thing. It'll go up on Friday. Tommy Lloyd of Arizona, massive Beastie Boys fan. I'm going to have a big feature on his Beastie Boys fandom and how it kind of defines who he is as a person. So that'll be up on Friday. I'm very, very much looking forward to getting that out in the world. As am I because I am also a massive Beastie Boys fan. So that works for me as well. All right, Matt. Thanks, thanks, man. Talk to you soon. Thank you, everybody for hanging out. Let's blow that whistle. Have a good weekend and I don't know.
Starting point is 01:01:02 I'm going to watch Arkansas softball. They're playing a Saturday, Sunday, Monday series, which they don't often do. But because Monday is called like miced up Monday where they're micing up the head coach to the Razorbacks. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. Because I asked DJ who's the hitting coach. I was like, why don't you have playing on Friday? He's like, we're doing miced up Monday.
Starting point is 01:01:20 I don't know what that means. Like mic'd mic like mic'd up Monday is something we all know about. Is it just the head coach or does DJ get the mic? No. Can you imagine all the coaches are mic to mic, up. It's just nonstop talking. Yeah, that would be funny. A live stream of it. So, yeah, this weekend I'll do that. We're not doing much. We got a baby. It's a few weeks old. But on the Bobby Bone channel on YouTube, maybe you can watch my new series, Father Knows Less. Talk Daddy to me?
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