The Bobby Bones Show - 25W: Bobby's Sperm Clinic Experience + Phillies Legend Ryan Howard on Getting Recognized from Being in 'The Office' + Kickoff Kevin's First Babysitter Recap

Episode Date: May 6, 2026

Bobby shares what happened during his sperm clinic experience and why it turned into a much bigger conversation than expected. Phillies legend Ryan Howard joins the show to talk about his baseball career, life after playing, and the funny way fans still recognize him from being in The Office. Plus, Kickoff Kevin gives a full review of his first babysitter experience, from how he felt leaving the house to what went right, what felt weird, and whether he would do anything differently next time. Follow the Show: @25WhistlesSports  Follow the Crew: @MrBobbyBones @ProducerEddie @KickoffKevin @MikeDeestro @BrandonRayMusic See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It, nit. Everybody, all right, blood whistle. We do have Ryan Howard coming up. Philly's great. So that's cool. We'll talk NBA basketball a little bit as well. The thing that I would never want to do, and I think a little bit it feels like when we made you do the testosterone test, is there have people racing their sperm. Have you guys seen this at all?

No. Yeah. What? I mean, because they're fast swimmers, right? So what do they? Well, that's what they say. I don't know fast compared to like us running. They're fast.

But to their version. They swim. Yeah. But they, yeah, they race them. Wow. That's cool. You want to do it? I don't.

I had to get my sperm checked. I did before my wife and I started trying to have a baby because I was 45 and I was, man, if we're going to like try and like every month wait for that, I need to make sure. And so I did that and it was great. Luckily, thank God. I'm nervous for you. Dude, that's crazy you went in. It was weird.

I was nervous, but it was weird first because you're just yanking it in a room and everybody knows what you're doing. it's bizarre yeah that's crazy you done this no I've never done it no no no no the whole the whole process because you go and you sit in a room and they're like

all right bobby and they you know the person working at the desk meet you it's like all right come on back and then you is it a woman at the desk yeah it's not all dude it's not like a sports bar

it's gotta be all dudes like it'd be better if it's all dudes that it'd be like hey man you know what's up you know you gotta do this you know what to do heck no and they walk you back and you talk to a second like, hey, to a doctor or a nurse, another woman.

And she's, they call it a sample. And they say, what you're going to do? You're going to go here, your sample. And the whole time you're just going, in my mind, I'm going, you're looking at me and you know I'm about to yank it. And that's weird for both the best. I'm just thinking that in my head. But they do it all the time.

It's just yankers all day to them. Do they know what you're using in there? What do you mean? What are you saying? I'm just saying, looking at you and being like, not, not only do you know, what you're about to do, what you're about to do it to this. Oh, do you have something? No.

Oh. Well, everybody has a... Is that the movies? I just think of the movies. Were there the magazines in there or something? Well, everybody has a phone now. That's true. But no.

I was just, okay, just curious. That did magazine. It's disgusting. Yeah, use the same magazine? Gross. No, no. So you go in and there's an old radio that you're supposed to turn up.

So they don't hear you? I guess, because I don't know, I don't know, I picture like, because there's like three rooms, I guess while they do this. the Yanker Hall is what I was calling it when I was telling Caitlin is in Yanker Hall

This is crazy Yeah I did it No it's a doctor's office And oh I have a crazy story too But it's not even me But not only walking down Yanker Hall But you hear music in the other room

So you know what's happening They're doing it Because they only turn the music up When you go in there And mine was on a class It was like four in a row Tom Petty I remember That's a rock

That's good And so then when you're done You have your sample and the inside of the wall it's like a metal square and you pull it back and you put your sample in there and you hit a button

and then you go out and you just kind of hang your head in shame as you walk out yeah it's like I'm done yeah does anybody make eye contact in there so that whole process was odd I was nervous about the results

but the results came back and is A plus so thank God A plus I would have told you if it's B minus is A plus so I was nervous about that, but I didn't get nervous until it was like when I got my ACT results

you take the test. Anyway, you're not really nervous until the envelope gets there and you're like, oh God, when I pulled this envelope, this will be life changing. And so I got an email saying, hey, your results are on the portal and I went to the portal. And if it was like sperm count, I don't remember what the classifications were.

But if it was like over 10,000, that was good, over 20,000, that was great. And mine was like, a million. Wow. A bunch of guys in there. I wonder what ours would be, dude.

Who knows? I think Eddie's would be like dust. Does the testosterone have to do with the sperm count? Probably not. I don't know. But my point was they do sperm races. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Oh, I'll tell you another story. Remind me to tell you the story that came to my mind. So men of the world are invited to put their sperm against each other in a race where the owner takes on $100,000. The 2026 sperm racing World Cup. It's 128 samples, each representing a different country. Oh, that's cool. Facing off on a microscopic racetrack.

I guess it's next month. In San Francisco, it's the Kentucky Derby of juices. What on earth? But they went $100,000. The payday is awesome. So, do they take just one of your guys and that represents you? Under a microscope, the competitors will race each other along a customized microfluidic track. I don't know, I'm sure.

And do they put like a... What's the... Okay, here you go. The entrance are sent a kit which to provide semen sample which will be mailed back to California and processed through advanced lab techniques such as incubation, sperm washing,

pipetting, and through a centrifuge. And I think it isolates and prepares the most viable cells for racing. Okay, so it gets your fastest... Find your healthiest horse and puts them on the track. And then you know how like when you do the dog races is they have flash and dash? is there like an egg or something

that like... Tells them which way to go. Yeah, because how is the sperm knows where it's going? That's a good point. I don't know. It's $100,000 bucks. I wouldn't want to be a part of this. Because I don't want to be last.

Can you imagine your last? What, $128? Yeah, the countries, yeah. Well, it's not just you, dude. You'd be letting your country down. That's true. You know? It's true.

I want to stand up there with my hand of my heart knowing that my sperm just won me that gold. Amen. Yeah. my, I have a friend, a literal friend, a close friend who was doing a full physical type thing. And part of it was they were checking his sperm too. And so he does the physical and they're like, okay, we need to do a sperm test.

And he's like, all right. Didn't really know that was going to be part of the physical. And so they give him the cup for the sample and they just say go on to, and he has to go into like a public bathroom. What? He had to, they just pointed him at a stall. A stall? Uh-huh. And they're like.

And there are like three urinals, three stalls. And he's like, he felt like, too, he could go to jail. Like somebody comes in. Like, there's like, there's a dude wack in there. I promise this for a sample. I promise. No, no, no, no, the doctor. It's medical.

But he had to do it there. You heck no. I wonder what's worse to do like not knowing it's coming or knowing it's coming. You probably just want to know it's coming. No pun. After I said it, I'm like, that's just not a good way to say it. Yeah. So that's that.

thing. That's what that race is. That's my story. That's crazy. Yeah. Times, man. They're changing. Bob Dylan said it. They really are. Times they're changing. So, yeah. Good luck to everybody. Yeah. All countries. I mean, just in life, man. Yeah. We need it, dude. We need it. That crap's crazy. Eddie, I have a bunch of stuff from you, but I think we, have we not already all talked to talk to, talked about this stuff? We have not talked about any of this stuff. We for sure talked about meeting T-Max mom on the other show. We did, but not on this show. But again, which Kevin doesn't If people hear this, they're going to know about it. It was more for Kevin, because like, if Kevin would have been there, he would have been like, what is happening?

I give you a quick version because a lot of people listen to this probably. Kevin works in a back room and doesn't get to hear the show as we're doing it. Can you turn a volume up in there? Yeah, but I'm also editing all the time, so it would just be. But if like something, you were just dying laughing, you could flip it up and hear. Yeah, because we have a TV. So if I see somebody dying laughing like you just said, then I'll turn the music or the sound up real quick. We were going into the Arkansas, Texas softball game at Texas.

and it was rainy and cold. And I had four of five tickets on my phone from DJ, who's at Hidden Coach in Arkansas, and my brother-in-law. And we were like, oh, this one ticket didn't go through. My name should be on the list. And so they ended up sending me, oh, the other ticket, got you.

Boom. Woman in Texas shirt next to us was like, hey, do I know you? I was like, and naturally I think it's from the radio show or television stuff I've been on. Who knows? It's a grab bag out there. And I was like, I don't know.

And she's like, did you do something at Arizona? And I was like, no. Like, you did a sports thing at Arizona. And I was like, no. And I started thinking, well, we did. She said, yeah, you talked to my son about his rating on Madden. It was Team X-Mawm. What?

Yeah. Sitting right next to you? No, outside getting tickets. Well, we were getting at the box office. Yeah. Really? Yeah. He was at the game because his girlfriend plays on the team.

For Texas. For Texas. Wow. Did you see him? No, she FaceTime with him, but the cell was so bad. I'm glad because he was, she was like, look who I'm with. It was breaking all up. I was like, he's not going to know anyway.

But, yeah. Dang, that is crazy. We were just like, how is this all happening? It's just random. Yeah, so TeamX mom. To be in that spot. And she recognized you. That's cool.

Yeah, she was like linger looking. And that happens. But usually it's, hey, Danes with Stars, whatever, breaking by bones, radio shirt, something like that. But no, it was that. It was too much access.

Dang. Did she talk about her son's rookie year? No, she didn't get it. It was cold and wet. Dude, we stayed 40s. We were freezing our balls off. It was cold, man. Really?

Great seats. I think Eddie was able to appreciate, like, how fast college softball is. Had no idea. Like, baseball, it's just a big field. So, like, yes, they're fast, but, I mean, you can't really see how fast they are because they're just throwing the ball a long way. They're running far. With softball, it's so condensed in this small area.

Dude, it's like, pop, pop, pop, wow, double play. We were like, what? Yeah, it's crazy. And the girls hit the ball so hard. Right. And you remember how hard it wasn't hit when we did too much access? I actually enjoyed it. Other than the cold rain, I could have, I would have loved me in there for the whole game.

It's so much more action than baseball. Yeah. And the girls are so positive. Like we're sitting right. You get to talk crap, except you're not talking crap, you're talking positive, but with your team. Yeah, yeah. Like, if you get on second base, you dance, you do. Baseball, they'll throw it at you next time you get up.

Or there'll be a fight. Unspoken rules. It's, you get a hit, you get on first base. Like, oh, you dance. It's awesome. Yeah, it's good. Did you catch a foul ball? I sure did.

Well, well, not technically. This is why I'm asking. Are you talking about this foul ball? Oh, that one? Wait, what's the, what happened? We're walking not, we're walking to the stadium. We're not in yet. And Eddie goes, it'd be so cool to catch a foul ball.

That was all. And then you hear it. And you see a ball come over the stadium and go tink, clink, it starts rolling down the sidewalk. And I'm like, dude, there's a ball. Go get it. And he's like, I don't know. I'm like, dude, there's a ball. Go get the ball.

You wanted a foul ball. So it runs down and gets it. In softball, you have to give the balls back because they only have so many. And it's not a sport that makes money. Yeah, correct. So someone from Texas comes out, and it's like, hey, you just find that ball. And he's like, yeah, here you go. And so she goes back and she says to me, hey, they sit the pavement.

Does your friend really want this ball or no? No way. And I said, yeah, she goes, I'm going to make sure that it can't be had because if it's scuffed, it's done. And so she came back and she was like, it's scuffed, he can have it. It was like, a five-year-old. Really? I know the picture You look like a little kid

You're all holding it up Well because I literally Had just said like hey What I want out of this game Is to catch a foul ball Yeah that's crazy All I want And then dude

It was like the heavens opened up And that ball came flying Over the wall I wonder what So it was actually from the game Wasn't like somebody hitting No it was during the game We got there in the first inning

It was a legit foul ball It was so cold We did not have coats It shouldn't have been that cold In May and Austin It had rained all day It's freezing We lasted at four innings

And then we were like We didn't have We were freezing our balls off and we went back to the restaurant and watched it on the phone Arkansas won the series two out of three games I had a question about that so like so your brother-in-law DJ he's coach there at Arkansas

we see him and so we're like love you DJ yeah go coach gasset right like like does is that appropriate it don't matter okay yeah because I know he's working like we don't want him coming here and banging on the window if we did it every inning every time I walked out there's DJ

but he was right below us and he walked down. We love you. Dude, he loves it, I bet. Yeah, I mean, there's too much. We didn't do too much. No, we did not do too much. So, yeah. Says the guys who did it. We didn't do too much. We only did it one time. You have your Celtics stuff on today, huh? I'm shocked by that. I know, I know. You know, it's kind of like the Patriots where I'm surprised they made it this far and I'm trying to be positive about it. You're not surprised. You're not surprised. They were really good. They were really good during their regular season. You're surprised that they're out. I'm surprised that they're out, yeah, especially being up 3-1 like

like that. I'm surprised that Missoula, look, he's a great coach, awesome coach. But man, like, they just never changed anything. They just kept jacking up threes. And they've been doing this. But then he stopped playing guys that were on his bench that were key guys all year, like the Shireman's,

like the Jordan Walsh. These guys didn't really play in the playoffs, the same guys that got you, that two seed. And he didn't really play in, which surprised me. They trim up that rotation, though, when it's playoff time. They do, but, like, when you're about to blow a 3-1 lead, like, I don't know, let's try something melts here. And then they throw out Shireman and I think Garza for start

Game 7 I was like well it's a little late now now these guys are just to be nervous it's game seven and now you want to play so I'm surprised that they really stuck to the guns that much and didn't really switch anything up but yeah I can't believe they're blue with 3-1 I'm surprised that you're wearing

the sweatshirt like I would think like when the Cowboys lose they're out like they lose in the playoffs whatever like Cowboy stuff is gone for at least a couple months because you're embarrassed mostly I just don't want to see it because it makes me feel bad. Yeah, I mean, it's a good point. Don't get me wrong, but I just, this thing's just comfy, dude. Yeah, dude. It's just comfy. You know, it's raining and we're just like,

I just comfy. I agree. Yeah. Something we didn't get to talk about was Kevin has two kids, there's twins. And so I know you're dealing with a babysitter issue where is, do you pay a babysitter double because it's twins or is it like one babysitting job because they're, it's two, but it's like one, you know, one, it's kind of one. Yeah. are twins. What happened? So last time we talked, I was going to meet her that weekend, I believe. We met her and her husband.

He didn't watch the kids with her, but we just wanted to meet and greet first. She was great. She's a nurse. She talked about that a little bit. And we felt super comfortable with her right away. We're like, all right, this is great. So then the following weekend, last weekend, we went to the wedding. She came over early afternoon, or late afternoon.

And I was with the kids because my wife was in the wedding. So she had to leave like three or four hours before. for me to go do a bunch of stuff. And so I'm sitting there like, okay, she's got to come here. I got to run her through. So we ran her through some stuff. And I left. And this is our first time being away from kids without family watching him.

It was awesome. I only got one text the entire time. We're gone for six hours. Yeah, about six hours. And the only text was, hey, where's your trash can at? That's great. That's it. And she's like, yeah.

Is your wife nervous? Honestly, she was way, like, she handled it way better and thought she would. because she's the nervous one for sure out of us too. Like I'll be like, all right, see you later. Like, I need this break. Or she'll be more of like, I wonder what they're doing. I can't believe like they're just at home with this random girl. But she was great.

I think it's because she was in the wedding. So she was so busy and her mind was going, which helped. And she enjoyed the experience. She had a great night. It was a great wedding. What do you pay? We paid her 30 bucks an hour. Oh.

I thought it was total. I'm like, dang. No, no. If she's like 13, maybe. Because we asked her, we're like, you know, what's your rate? We just don't lose our first time. And she's like, well, first she goes, well, usually I babysit for, like, people with a lot of money. And we're like, she said that.

Wow. But then I'm here with you now. I know. And I'm like, well. I've really dropped a few levels. Right. We're not usual people. So, no, she's like, my rate's like 25 to 30.

And I was like, all right, we'll pay you 30. Like two of them. Yeah. So, yeah, we paid $30. It was well worth it. Now, could I do that every weekend? Absolutely not. What was the total?

$200. I heard. For six hours. What do you pay? Nothing anymore, but I used to pay, it used to come out to like, yeah, like $80. A night? Mm-hmm. Gosh, dude.

Four boys? And then, yeah, and then you would, like, go to dinner. Like some child labor laws are being broken. Wait, I pay $200. You paid $80 for four boys? Yeah, for like three hours. You were gone for how many hours? Six.

Yeah, six. So, like, yeah, I was, I mean, dude, think about going to dinner. and spending $125 on dinner and then come back and giving $80 cash to like a young girl. Like, oh, God, it's terrible. Did you ever have any bad experiences? No, but this is something funny, funny story is the first time we got a babysitter, I had no idea. So, like, it's just like Kevin was describing it and made me think about it when he's like, yeah, they come over and then you're like, all right, here is the fire extinguisher.

I didn't do any of that. They eat at this time. This is what they need, whatever. They need to go to bed at this time, whatever. And then I just, I don't know. I wasn't even trying to be funny, but as we were walking out, and like, hey, and there's beer in the fridge, help yourself or whatever. And my wife goes, no, no, don't help yourself to the beer. And I was like, oh, right, right.

Like, I don't want my babysitter drinking. But to me, it was the first time I'd ever done that. And I thought, like, why not? Like, you're here all day. They fall asleep in like an hour. Yeah. Have yourself a brew. Like, my wife's like, no.

Absolutely not. Did you have food for your babysitter? Okay. So I asked my wife that morning. I was like, hey, should we have food? Yes. It hit me that day. I'm like, should we do something with food?

I'm like, ah, she's a nurse and she does this all the time. She probably comes prepared. I think she's okay. And I regret it. We didn't get anything. She brought like a bag of snacks. And I was like, hey, you're welcome to anything in the fridge, anything in the pantry, whatever. And then she ended up just ordering a pizza.

I was like, we should have got her food. Did you pay her for the pizza? No. You could have. The move for us is always like, all right, we're going to order pizza. We should be here in 10 minutes. And so when we leave, they get the pizza. Yeah.

See? Yeah. We should have done that. I regret that. the first one, you know. But she's also, she's pregnant now. So it's like, okay, well,

she's not going to last very long. We can't use her for a long. Oh, the babysitter is pregnant. Yeah, told us that she's, you know, early on, but she's pregnant. You had a few more months at least. Yeah.

Unless she's sick, that first trimester is tough for a lot of people. Yeah, that's, I was like, oh, okay. Man, if you find somebody, though, that you trust always to the little things, like cover their freaking pizza after.

I know. Just know, like babysitter, usually you cover their dinner. Yeah. And if you forget, like Bone said, yeah, give her a little bit of money. I'm sorry, I completely forgot. Here's... No, if you can have a sucky babysitter and you just weren't using her one time because you got to scrape by it, that's different. But if it's something that you really want to be able to use a lot, man, you really got to make them feel valued. You know what she did? I just thought about it too. She actually did text me and she's like,

hey, do you care if I Uber eat something to your house? Is that her way of like... Telling you, you didn't leave me food, you'd... Like, do you want to order me something? I don't think so Or you think she would just ask and just be nice I think she was asking because if for some reason you had a camera or something you saw a car drive up

You're like, why is there a car at the house? Why is it? Yeah, I just think it's a somebody Also she could be like You know, maybe you don't want people Know where you live Maybe you guys purposely don't have stuff delivered To your house.

I don't know. Oh, I wonder if she was asking Because of like allergies. You know, like do your kids have allergies or whatever Like if I Uber eats something? Yeah, the kids were asleep by now I don't know But I appreciate that.

But oh, oh, Overall success. When do you think you're going to be dealing with this? I don't know. Soon, ish. We don't have any child care now. We have friends. We only left one time.

We had a friend come over. We went to therapy. I don't know. Hey, man. How did your wife do? And you're gone for, what, an hour? It's only an hour. But still, it's the first time.

I've been gone a lot, so I didn't even think of it as that. Right. Because I'm gone every day. And we were in the car and we were driving. This is the first time we've both been gone. like, really? Because you're always going to work. Yeah, she's like, yeah, both of us.

Yeah, I was like, huh, how about that? I think she did great. She has a friend that she really trusts that has had a bunch of babies. That's important. I guess a bunch is two. But yeah. Well, yeah, that's a bunch. Yeah, so, yeah, I don't know.

We haven't got there yet. How was your weekend away from the baby? Did you? Easy. Yeah. It was so easy. I mean, yeah, I don't know. It was easy.

For a couple reasons. One, her parents were there. My fear would have been on her more than anything. Like she just overwhelmed. So her parents were there, so I was good. That's it. Yeah, that's good. That helps.

Yeah, if you get a family there. If she was by herself. Yeah, and her parents came in, they had planned a long time ago because I told my wife, I wouldn't leave for two months after she had the baby. This was the first trip that I was leaving on. And so her parents were like, hey, when he leaves, this is like a month and a half ago. We'll come into town. He's going to be gone for a couple days.

So we'll just come because it'll be time for us to come back anyway. We haven't been there in a month. And so it was planned out a long time ago that they would drive in. So they were there. They got there. We left on Thursday evening. They got through like Thursday afternoon. So I hung out with them a little bit.

And it was difficult because we got in Saturday night, but Sunday morning at 3 a.m. Yeah, super late. So I had to be up at like 6.30 with the baby. That sucked. But I did get to say bye to them. I'm just now caught up on the week, like where I'm feeling normal again. Is your father-in-law pumped about the thunder?

They won last year. So I don't know if he's pumped. I think he just enjoys it. He enjoys having a win. winner now. He watches every game. I think he was pumped last year. Now, not that it's expected, but there is an expectation because they win all the time. Pretty good. Right? Really good. So the Lakers didn't look bad last night. Thunder are just so good. They're just so good. They just suffocate you defensively. Yeah. And Chet played really well last night. And Jalen didn't even play,

right? Williams, one of the Williams? I don't know. I just saw him on the bench in the street clothes. Then that means you didn't play. That would mean he didn't play. That is true. I'm going to bet he didn't play if he's in street close. All right, let's break and we'll come back with Philly's First Baseman, former Philly's First Baseman, Stud, Ryan Howard. Happy Pride Month, Toronto.

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All right, we're going to welcome in Ryan Howard, Philly's Legend, 2008 World Series champion, 2006, National League MVP, rookie of the year, really one of the, the, really one of the greatest power hitters of me watching baseball. He has a new podcast now with another Phillies legend, Jimmy Rollins, called the 6-1-1 podcast. You love baseball. You love the Phillies. Check it out.

Ryan is here now. Ryan, first question, how much does a manager actually matter? And I think you know where I'm going with this. Well, Bobby, I'm going to say that I don't know where you're going with this. Okay. All right. But a manager does matter. I think the manager has to keep the mood in the clubhouse nice and calm and easy.

I know with, well, I'm going to let you take it there. I'm going to let you take it there. I'm not going to get ahead of you. But with the manager, it's just doing that. You're managing the game. You're watching the game. You're seeing how things go. I think the great managers have a tendency of just letting their players play, do their thing,

and then they make the moves as they need to make the moves. I ask because with the Phillies firing Rob Thompson and Don Maddenly taking over, you know, can there be a culture change? I know we're not mid-season, but early enough in the season that it actually affects team play? I mean, there can be a culture change. I think that obviously with what's kind of taking place with the Phillies, it's, you know, the guys were kind of underperforming.

I don't really know what was going on in the clubhouse. You know, usually when there's something like that that's taken place, there's got to be some kind of change. And usually a lot of times the managers, the first one to kind of take the heat. So, you know, and in terms of that whole situation, there's one thing I always say, too, is that players also have to be accountable. I've been on teams, you know, that have had bad stretches and the manager kind of takes

the heat for it all. But the players also have to take accountability. And that was one of the things that I remember when I was kind of going through a stretch like that as a player, it's like, hey, what are we doing, right? We've got to try to do better and be better. you know at some point you know everybody's got to be accountable for their own actions so you know i think the team is kind of turning it around they've gotten a few few wins under their belt and that team is just way too talented to have kind of underperformed the way they they have but luckily hey the philly's

history in april is not uh is not the best but hey that's why you've still got a lot of season left and it's a marathon not a sprint how do you feel about the aBS system um the abys system um the abe system, I think, is great. Actually, would have loved to have it when I was playing. Probably would have knocked down some strikeouts or whatnot. But I think what it's all about is about getting the calls right. And I don't think it's tough for umpires to not take it personal. You can understand that.

But I think ultimately it becomes a tool to where everybody can get better. And you get a full understanding of what the strike zone is and a consistent understanding of what the strike zone is. I think the umpires are going to continue to get better with that. catchers, the pitchers, the hitters, once everybody gets a better understanding of what that strike zone is in being able to utilize it and the challenges, right? Now all of a sudden you're implementing these challenges and you've got to be strategic with these challenges because you don't want to necessarily use your challenges up too early in the game if you miss them.

So I think it's a cool addition to the game where it's just all about trying to get things right because it can change the flow of a game. one way or the other. I think it's fun too for fans because it gives something like, ooh, it's almost like that cup thing where it's like which balls under the cup and they start spinning the cups and you've got to watch it between innings.

Like it's a little bit of that but like game affected. What I do like about it the most though is the people that are running that system are live in the umpire's ears so even when people aren't challenging it they're telling the umpires like hey you're a little outside today like you're a little

inside. So the real game feedback I think it's great for the game. Yeah, no, absolutely. Because ultimately, at the end of the day, you just want to have the consistency, and you want to have the right call so that ultimately you get into a situation where now it's like the players can determine the game.

You don't want to have it be where, you know, there's a big situation where, you know, a team's got runners on and they're either down and they can tie the game or they can go ahead. And then the umpire makes a call and it ends the game and ultimately can end a season or do something like that. But again, you've got to be smart with your challenges

because if that team goes and uses those challenges up early in the game to where you get to that situation and now all of a sudden we need that challenge and we don't have it, then you just, hey, you're at the expense of the umpire and those guys are out there trying to. So, you know, they're human. They're going to make mistakes,

but it happens in a blink of an eye and you just, trying to do the best they can out there. Was there a version of what the Dodgers are doing now in the National League when you were playing? Not the same, but they just spend all the money and have all the players. Was there one of those teams when you were in the league? NL? Not really.

Not really. I mean, the Dodgers always had, you know, great rosters and talented players, but not to the extent of what they've been able to go out and go do now. But, I mean, yeah, I mean, if you had to look at a team, you'd have to. say that team was the Yankees, even though they were in AAL. The Braves may be the team that could play with the Dodgers. You feel like anybody in the NL can actually make it to the World Series other than the Dodgers? Yeah, there's teams.

It's going to be tough. I mean, look, with what the Dodgers are doing and how they're playing right now, it's very hard to overlook them. But again, you mentioned it, the Braves. The Braves are playing really well at a very, very high clip. This is the first time in, you know, however many years that the Braves have been fully healthy and had, you know, their horses on the field all at the same time. I mean, you're getting great, great hitting, you're getting great hitting. They're just playing great all-around team

baseball. Sneakily kind of back on the radar, man. Look, it's a little bit of a long shot, but these guys are playing great baseball too. You can't necessarily overlook the Cardinals. It's, it's just all about who's playing good ball at the right time. I think the Phillies, you know, get back on track with anything in any team, Dodgers included. like you've got to stay healthy over the course of the season. The Dodgers have so much depth, you know, you could probably afford to have guys, you know,

go down at some point, but when it comes to September, October, like those later months, you've got to be healthy to be able to make it and make a big run in the postseason. So it's going to come down to a lot of that as well. How would you get out of a slump?

I would usually try to it depends on what I was doing. I mean, I think a lot of the times, if I was pulling the ball a lot early on. I would try to just kind of back the ball up a little bit more and let it get a little bit deeper, maybe take a couple A-Bs and just tell myself, hey, I'm going to jam myself no matter what and try to kind of stay back up the middle of the field. And so by doing that, it's allowing me to let the ball travel and watch the ball and track the ball a little bit more in to the bat. And then as I start to make that contact, then I start to make that contact, then I

I can kind of start to push my contact point forward just a little bit more, a little bit more, a little bit more, and then boom, all of a sudden there it is. And then starting to work my way back in the middle of the field, left center, right center, and to left field. Would there be at-bats where you're going up knowing you're just trying to get yourself out of a slump, no pressure to actually get on base? You're just trying to progress a bit? Yeah, sometimes you just, you got to say, you know what, no matter what happens here,

I'm just going to chalk it up because this is what my focus is right now. So it may take me a couple of bats to let the ball travel. As long as I can start tracking the ball again the way and get my timing down, the way I want it to, I know that it's going to start to come back and then I'm going to start squaring balls up. These next two, maybe three at bats or whatnot, depending upon what the situations are, is I want to let the ball kind of get deeper on me and start trying to track it and kind of catch it if I can. I'm an Arkansas baseball fan. Missouri State, like quietly.

They're freaking good. They're always, those boys fight. Like when you play from Missouri State, was it the same kind of team? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Great, great program. I think it's a very underrated program. We would always play Arkansas every year, Missouri, Kansas, schools like that.

Now they're playing, you know, they're playing the big boys every year. Still playing those guys, playing Oklahoma State yearly. It's always been a very gritty program. I mean, the guys that go out of there, just, you know, you look at Drake Baldwin. You know, we've had some guys, Jake Berger, Luke Voight,

like a lot of guys that have come out of there. Brad Ziegler and I played together. We were there at the same time. So it's a program that is a very hardworking program, and it's still, I think, on up and up. How much time did you spend in the minors? Did you do the whole travel around on the bus thing? Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. We were, what was it? Started out once I got drafted, Batavia, New York, New York Penn League, and then went to South Atlantic League, Lakewood, New Jersey, where we had,

I think at that time we were the furthest team north, and we would travel down to Georgia, South Carolina, Georgia, you know, 17-hour bus rides. So, yep, got the full experience. And I was in minor leagues for three and a half years. I got September call up in 2004, drafted in 01, September call up in 2004. And then 05 was started out in AAA. And then Tommy got hurt and went up for a little bit, went back down. he came back and he got hurt again

and was out for the rest of the season and then was up the rest of the year in 05 and the rest was history. Your call-up moment was it pretty cool or they tell you just like, hey, you're up, you're heading out? No, it's always cool, man. They understand like this is what you work for.

This is a dream come true. And I mean, I understood just the opportunity, right, where I understood that Tommy was hurt for, you know, he was going to be on the, the, back then they called the DL, but like the IL for like two weeks. So I knew I was only going to really be up for two weeks until he came back,

but was really just going to try to go up and just do the best that I could and soak it all in. And once I, once I got up early on in 2005 and then like late in 2004 was really like looking at like, okay, this is the big leagues. Like this is awesome. Like this is what you aspire to. So having that opportunity was amazing. When you got up, was there anyone you thought it was really cool to actually see in person that you had watched as a kid? Oh, yeah, everybody. Just the whole experience, I was like, when I first got called up in September, I think we went, Gavin Floyd and I were the same draft class.

And we both got called up September of 2004. And I think our first road trip was to Atlanta. And, you know, you're in a minor league. So, like, you get to the hotels. it's like you're usually you're bunking up with somebody right you got a you got a roommate and we get in we get we checked in at the uh the hotel and i walk in and i'm looking and there's like a king bed in there and i'm like wait wait we there's no we don't have roommates so that was the that was cool for me i was like oh man we don't have roommates we get our own room oh this is amazing so you know that that was

kind of the first first part of uh getting up there but i think just seeing all the guys that you've grown up watching and now you have the ability to be able to step on the same field and play with and against some of these guys was an amazing feeling. Is it the 6-1-1 podcast because you guys numbers? Because that's not the area

code. Is it what? Because you guys, that was your number The funny part about it is that yes, it is our numbers because I was number six and Jimmy was number 11, but it's also and we didn't necessarily realize it at the time, but it's also the street exit for Broad Street in Philadelphia.

So the whole thing just kind of came together with that and just all made sense. When you guys do your podcast, I'm assuming you're like across the board with baseball, right? It's not just Philly stuff, but it's, you guys both played for the Phillies, so you have very, you know, in-depth knowledge of the Phillies. But you're talking to other players

and like clubhouse stuff, right? Inside baseball? Yeah, there's definitely the baseball base, but we've talked to, we definitely talked to entertainers, rappers, other baseball players from other squads. We've talked to business moguls, entrepreneurs. So we diversify the portfolio. So we definitely have the baseball talk, but we definitely want to have the outreach of being able to reach

different genres and different people. Final question for you, and I was a big fan of yours while you played. But do people ever come up to you and go, hey, you're that dude from the office? Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. I've had some people, I'd go get coffee in the morning sometimes, and they would recognize me more so from that than ever playing baseball. They wouldn't have known that I played baseball, but they were like, hey, you look familiar. Like, have you been on the office? And I did it a couple other shows where it was like, you know, always sunny and an entourage. And so it was just funny because people would recognize me more so from some of those than actually playing baseball. The office thing was legit though because you actually acted a bit because you had the role of like, hey, I got this script. Like it wasn't just like you showed up and it was a cameo.

You actually acted. Did you prepare for that or were you just good at it? I mean, there was a little bit of preparation, but they made it easy for me. You know, it was me basically kind of, you know, being myself and yeah, there was a script. So, you know, if I can't be myself, then I don't know what I'm doing. but it was easy. They made it so smooth and effortlessly, like, fun. I mean, that was the first thing.

The guys were like, hey, man, just be yourself, have fun, like say things how you would normally say it. And that's all we're going to do. We're just, we're going to have some fun with this. And that was it. Well, I really appreciate the time. And I hope everybody checks out the 611 podcast. Ryan Howard, you guys follow him too on Instagram.

Ryan Howard underscore 006. Really appreciate the time. And again, I was a big fan. I'm a massive Cubs fan. We weren't in the same division, so that was good, so I could be a fan. But, yeah, you were fun to watch, Ryan. So I really appreciate the time.

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Listen to Joy 101 with Hoda Kotby on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I love the sounds, the buzzing from the stadium, the chanting from the fans, the announcers calling the place soccer, football, at home. Why do I watch the World Cup? That's like asking me, why do I breed? I inherited that fandom from my mom. watching it with my dad. It's a connecting force. From Futuro Studios, I'm Fernando Chavarri, and this is American Football, a show about soccer culture in the U.S. and its underdog roots.

We go beyond the game to the people and the stories that make it great. A soccer game is a festival. It's not just a game. It's your culture. I took an elbow to my head, which cracked my skull. It is an American game. The Brazilians don't like hearing anything. Are they the only ones that don't like that? Nobody likes that. As we get ready for the Men's World Cup this summer, listen to American Football as part of the My Coutura Podcast Network,

available on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, let's welcome in Mike Vorkenov, national NBA reporter for the athletic, basketball business reporter, someone who I look to whenever I can't really understand how the NBA works behind the scenes. he also hosts business decision, which is a podcast he does, where he breaks down all of this, the intersection of sports, money, power, so be sure to go check it out. Mike, really appreciate you jumping on. I do want to talk about tanking first if you're ready to tackle that with me.

Sure, I was going to say, I don't know if I always understand how the NBA works, but I'll give it a try. Yeah, that's what I need help with because I've read the, you know, the meaningful changes from Adam Silver about tanking. Like, what are we doing here next year? Well, I'm trying to figure out how to just shortcut this answer. Basically, they're going to try to find a way or they think they found the way where they can kind of, you know, try to incentivize teams to be better versions of themselves, right? Let's put it like that. And instead of trying to be as bad as they can be to maximize their lottery odds, like they will, you know, this Sunday when we got the latest draft lottery coming up, they're changing. the odds basically where you're trying to be middle bad instead of horribly bad and hope that

when it gets the March and April, you're trying to win more games than you are just like benching all your best players and we see an elevated version of college basketball in those months. When I was reading about it when it first came out, it definitely was if you're the worst, you have worse odds. It's weird to say worse versus better, but your odds aren't as good to get the first pick if you're the worst team to incentivize, yeah, those teams not finishing last last, but then what if you literally have the absolute worst team and you need to get one of those top picks? Well, yeah, that's the problem with this.

And I think this is something that there have been complaints about even this current lottery system, which is that they watered down the odds for the worst teams. And, you know, some people said like, hey, isn't the whole point in the draft to give the best prospects to the worst teams, right, to try to make them better? And I think that you could argue like, hey, there's a reason that some of these teams, like the Jazz and the Wizards are in the lottery for a longer period. time is because they're not getting the topic, so they're not getting the best players. And so they're just worse for a longer period of time. And this probably will not solve it, right? Like if you're

authentically bad, let's say that, right? You have lost with integrity because you are just really bad at putting out rosters and you're the worst team in the league. This is not going to help you. It's trying to stop the teams that are tanking, not the teams that are just like bad by their own, you know, bad decision making. I was looking at all the number one picks over the past few years. and I really felt bad for the Atlanta Hawks. Like they finally get the number one pick. And it's like the one year, the one year that it's not a player that would actually change an organization.

Yeah, timing is so much of it too. Like, you know, it's funny this is happening now because all the smart draft people say the next two drafts are not going to be that great either. So it could be another, you know, version of that situation like the Hawks had. If you had, you know, the number two pick in 2020, the Warriors had that and it's James Wiseman, right? Like, imagine if they got a great number two,

pick and how that team would have looked now. So timing matters so much. So when your bad really matters. There's just so much that goes into it. Not to mention, the MVP, Shea Gildes Alexander, was the number 11 pick. Yokic was the second round pick. Like Yonis number 15, all great players come from everywhere. Let's talk expansion.

The Seahawks, excuse me, the Seahawks, the Supersonics. Are they going to exist again? They very well may. It is looking like the NBA is going down the road for expansion. So the Sonics, maybe a team in Vegas. I don't know, maybe though, I don't know what that nickname is going to be. But like the NBA is looking at it. It looks like they're trying to get a good price for teams there.

And they're really, this is the closest they've ever come to expansion. They've been dancing around it for so long. But I think we'll know an answer. We're in May. Like, I would say by the end of 2026, we should know where that's going. A lot of the Las Vegas talk has been possibly LeBron would be part of an ownership group in Las Vegas. do you think the NBA would allow a guy to play and also be part owner? Well, they definitely won't allow that.

That's part of their CBA and their rules. And, you know, LeBron seems like he's out on it too. My colleague and Ijo Varden, we reported earlier this spring, like he's out on trying to get an expansion team. And it had been something he had wanted for so long, right? And he talked about publicly for so long. But the firm that he's a partner in Fenway Sports Group, which owns Liverpool and the Red Sox,

they're out on trying to get an NBA expansion team. So LeBron for now is also out on trying to get one. You hear from a lot of people, I feel at times ill-educated people about how the ratings of the NBA have dropped so much. But I think for me, what I've been able to see is people are consuming the NBA differently. And I can be completely wrong.

What are your thoughts on the NBA and just generally ratings talk? I'm tired of it, honestly. For a lot of reasons. One is the ratings don't matter. right like the ratings were down and the NBA still got this behemoth 76 billion dollar media rights deal despite all that and now ratings are up this year and that's for a number of reasons one of them is that there's a lot of games on NBC and it's easier to watch games on NBC than it is on t-n-t the other there's

some inflation going on with Nielsen ratings and how they count it but honestly like if you're an NBA fan just watch the basketball or don't who cares how many other people watch the basketball or don't I feel like this is wholly individual to the NBA as opposed to baseball and to the NFL and hockey. Like sometimes just enjoy the sport that you like and who cares who's along for the ride with you. To me, when that headline comes up and those stories come up, it feels a bit like whenever the story is that a movie studio paid $400 million to make the movie and only made $230 million back. Like that's so inside. It's like, I don't know. Do my friends like watching the movie?

I really don't care how much the movie studio spent on the movie and how much it made. back. Yeah, exactly. Like, that's their money and not yours. If it was a good movie, then you like it. And if not, like, you don't and you move on. I think, I don't know, that's the same thing. I think there are better questions to be had about the state of like what the actual on-court product looks like and where that's going and how, you know, tanking and how teams are built, then there is about the rating stuff. I was reading an article about shoes and how, you know, some of the shoe companies aren't selling as many shoes, especially basketball shoes because of one of the theories was limited star power.

What are your thoughts on that? I think it's interesting. I think it kind of like, I mean, not to bring it back to the ratings thing, but it's also just about it's harder to build stars nowadays, right? There's the monoculture that everyone talks about, so it's harder to break through. So it makes sense that if you're depending on stars to sell shoes and it's harder to build a star, then it would be harder to sell shoes, right? And I think just looking at that, you know, that whole business, it seems like everyone's kind of trending towards

athleisure and all that. And, you know, influencers are now selling shoes or selling apparel and all that. So I think everyone is just looking for different places to have sponsors sell their products. And so maybe the sponsorship for Nomei player just doesn't go as far as it used to. It feels like if I were thinking about it now, like whose shoe would I want, it honestly would be Caitlin Clark. And that's crazy to say because I don't play women's basketball. I'm not a woman. But if it's pick a star who'd put out a shoe

that you genuinely, because I'm a shoe guy, I think I would like the Caitlin Clarks. I think she almost transcends all the dudes that aren't that last, we'll say last generation that still play the Stephs, the LeBron's. Because the new guys, you're right, everything is so fractional now. It's so hard to be

famous generally. In media, in basketball in general. And like, Caitlin Clark has a bit transcended that. Am I insane? No, I think you're totally right. Whenever her signature shoe drops, like, I bet that's going to sell a lot of pairs. Like the Sabrina Ionescu shoe, super popular, right? Like both among NBA players, you see a lot of NBA players wearing the Sabrina's on the court.

And then also just, you know, selling to folks, too, in stores. And so Caitlin's probably one of the biggest, most famous athletes in America, period. So why wouldn't she be the great person to have a great selling signature? your shoe. I know you used to work with the Knicks. They're pretty good. Are you a Knicks fan? I know, because I know you worked covering the Knicks. Do you like the Knicks? Listen, I grew up in the Newark area, so I was a Knicks fan growing up. But then when you start covering the Knicks and you're covering sports, that gets sucked out of you real quick. But I'm a fan of MSG. I think that arena's great. So like, you know, I was there for Game 1 for Nick Sixers. And that was an awesome place to

be. And that place was awesome when I, the teams I covered when they were horrible. And the place was still like thriving in the fourth quarter of a tight game. Yeah, that's like a 39 point win, right? That, that was, that was a while. That was blow it. I did not expect that. That is a team though, like the Sixers, and you can give me your opinion. They just played seven games. So usually game one after a seven game set, usually doesn't end well for that team that just played seven, but a 39 point defeat, that's a bit disheartening if you're a Sixers player. Well, yeah, and like the Knicks are rolling right now. I was looking up after that game. They've like They've got the largest four-game margin of victory ever in NBA playoff history.

Like, they're doing things over the last four games that teams just have not done in the league before. And so how long is that last? Because if you're going to win every game by 30, you're probably winning the title, right? Like, it's just there on this hot streak that we haven't seen. What's with the Knicks, and I'll just sit here for a second because I'm so curious. Ownership to coaching. That feels like it'd be a tough place to have to work under that ownership group. Your thoughts for working under that ownership group?

I mean, that's a really tough job for them. James Dolan is a demanding owner. He is a very peculiar owner. Look, he already set the expectations for that team for this season. When he set out, he thinks it's a title winning team. So you know where that's going, right? Tom Tibuto got the team, the furthest it's gone in 25 years last year and got fired anyway. So Mike Brown knows the expectations. And New York is demanding place. And I think, yeah, I mean, look, you get a lot of resources, but man, you're walking a tight ship there. I think you got to get what the owner is looking for. Are you watching every game?

Am I? Yeah, it's the playoffs now. Why not? Well, I mean, some of them are late. I don't know where you live, but it's tough. Oh, you met every playoff, every playoff game. Every next game. No, I'm not watching it.

I mean, listen, I pass out on the couch at 9 o'clock sometimes. I'll admit to that. And then I'll catch up the next morning, but I can't always stay up to like 2 o'clock in the morning. I'm washed. Same. Those West Coast games kill me. And I have league pass and I try to, even during the season, watch as much, like, it just stays on even if I'm not watching it.

Like I'm trying to absorb through a bit of osmosis even, you know, watching some of these teams. And it's interesting that East is so, I'm going to say wide open now, because I don't think anyone expected the Celtics to, especially to blow that series like they did. But the Knicks, a real shot. It's interesting, the Pistons, a real shot. Who do you think comes out of the East? I still give the 76ers a real shot. Like I know they got bloated to Smithereens in game one, but that happened in the Boston series too.

And to your point, like, they talked about it afterwards. They're going from highly emotional, high leverage game seven to game one, 48 hours, I think took a lot out of them. So I'm kind of curious to see what they're going to do tonight at MSG. But I think it's between the Pistons, the Knicks and the 76ers to come out of the east. Yeah, I guess I just don't trust Embede, ever to even show up for the game. And it's just, something's wrong and it's not his fault.

Like in an appendix, his appendix ruptured. So, but yeah, if MB plays, yeah, I agree. The Sixers are really good. I just don't have any trust he's going to show up and be able to play most games. No, I mean, he arrives to NBA games in one of those boxes labeled fragile, right? But then when he plays and he takes the court and you watch him move pregame and you're like, how is this guy going to do it for 40 minutes? and then somehow he does.

And when he plays, he's just a huge difference maker. But you just, you don't know if he's going to play, you know, if it's a seven game series, all seven or this is the last game he plays? One final question. How many more years do you think LeBron has? Oh, man. Oh, I feel like before this year, I would have guessed none. But I feel like the way that this year is gone,

he's going to tack on another year after this. He's been the Lakers. I mean, he won that series. It was him, right? Because, I mean, Austin Reeves. none, Luca, none. So it definitely was LeBron, Hachamura. I don't know if you count that, you know, but LeBron was the dude. So yeah, do you think he does a farewell tour? He loved, LeBron loves, you know, the adulation. Does LeBron do announce it?

I feel like it, because then you could just like, you know, he'll, all the things, all the companies who partners with just like leverages into this long farewell tour. Nike does a whole thing. He can record it behind the scenes. I, yeah, I mean, like, when was the last time someone just suddenly, shockingly retired a star of that magnitude. It was like, I think it was probably Tim Duncan, I want to say. Tom Brady tried to just up and quit and then he had to do it again anyway. I really appreciate the time. Business decision with Mike Vorkinop and you do such a great job and yeah, thanks for hopping on with us and teaching us a few things because sometimes, man, I still don't think that the tanking thing is going to work. I don't know how you fix the tanking thing

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