The Bobby Bones Show - 25W: Debunking Magic with Bobby Bones + Would You Rather: Football Edition + True or False? Does Icing the Kicker Work

Episode Date: October 2, 2025

After Bobby's TikTok algorithm fed him the secrets to famous magicians tricks, he debunks the infamous Grand Canyon carpet ride trick that David Copperfield performed in the 80's. Plus, the guys play a game of 'would you rather: football edition' after Eddie brought in a series of questions his kids constantly heckle him about while watching football. And Bobby reads through a series of narratives that statistics have proven true or false, like if icing the kicker actually works.    Download the DraftKings Sportsbook App today: https://dkng.co/bobbysports   If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/MI/NJ/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/NH), 888-789-7777/visit http://ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 1-877-770-STOP (7867) (LA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), call/text TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA).   21+ (18+ WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/LA/MI/NJ/ NY/PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. N/A in NH/OR/ON. New customers only. Valid 1 per new customer. Min. $5 deposit. Min $5 wager. $200 issued as eight (8) $25 free bets. Ends 9/19/22. See http://draftkings.com/sportsbook for details.   Follow the Show: @BobbyBonesSports   Follow the Crew: @MrBobbyBones @ProducerEddie @KickoffKevin @MikeDeestro @BrandonRayMusic  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Especially last week. Yeah, but I like the game tonight. Thursdays used to be really bad. It used to be the worst. It was like they were getting the game. The NFL was like, we kind of wish this game didn't happen. Yeah.

So, well, you can have it. Yeah, it's kind of good. So that's a good game tonight. We'll get to all that coming up in a little bit. I did want to start with, if I say the name Alex Honnold, Eddie. Alex, what? Honold.

H-O-N-N-O-L-D. hockey player no he's the free solo guy do you ever watch a documentary no oh oh no free solo he that's um climb the rock oh yeah yeah yeah i think i did see it yeah yeah yeah i did see that documentary it's a long time ago tell me about it then 10 years ago it was um yosemite or one of those where it's just it's like a big rock and that's all i remember he climbed it maybe you just saw clips no man i'm pretty sure i watched the whole documentary he lived in a van didn't he yeah had a girlfriend at one point but break up with her? Now you're talking about stuff.

Now we're getting there. Okay, I didn't watch it. So maybe you did see it. And he would like always do like pull-ups in the van. Yeah, that's it. And he was psychotic. And also they like measured him, tested him. And like his heart rate never went up when things were dramatic.

Yes. Whoa. Ice cold. Just to do what he does, you can't freak out. And he always stayed the same. And so that's the guy that free soloed. What's that mountain called, Mike? El Capitan.

Yep. Oh, there you go. Okay, now you got it all. We brought it back. Slowly, dude. It was in 2018 when it came out. Yeah, close to the years. So he's doing a Netflix two-hour live special

called Skiscraper Live, which rock climber, Alex Honnold, will attempt to become the first person to scale one of the tallest buildings on the planet, Taipei 101. The skyscraper is the tallest building in Taiwan, the 11th tallest in the world,

consisting of 101 floor standing almost 2,000 feet tall. And by the way, it doesn't say, but he has to be free soloing this and people wouldn't care. Yeah, because that's what he's free solo. That's what he does. some of the Hollywood reporter

That's crazy But it's like we're watching to see if he dies That's what I was thinking Like do we cut out if he falls No no no no that's why we watch But I'm just saying like does the broadcast Like as soon as he falls That's bad juju

But if he ever did But but you say bad juju That's why we're interested You think we're watching To watch him climb a building And make it to the top No Well we are but we're watching that

But with the risk Like the risk of him falling Is what actually gets us to watch If we knew the end of it, we wouldn't watch it. It has to be live. If there was a TV show, we recorded this last week and Alex Honnold made it, let's watch him climb to the top of the building. We would not tune in and care. But because he's doing it live and there is a threat, a risk, we will be interested.

Yeah. That's why we watch people on the high wire, you know? That's why we watch. Remember that guy that skydive from space? Yeah. That ended up kind of being dumb, though. Yeah. You're right.

How did I miss that? You're right. A guy skydough from space? They took him up farther than anybody's ever skydived before and he jumped out. Whoa. Was he in a space suit? No, I don't think so. Oh, so this is like technically he was in space, but it was really just high.

It wasn't like on the moon. He jumped off and held his nose like he jumped into the pool. Got it. Yeah, I think this is interesting and I will probably watch. Yeah, I will too, but man, that's... What are the details? Is this pay-per-view? Netflix.

Awesome. So yes. We'll watch it. So yes, pay-per-view. but you've already paid for it. Prepaid. Prepaid for view. I do that too. I'm like, oh, this one's free.

No, no, no. I'm paying every month to watch this stuff. So I wanted to lead with that. I've now come into the algorithm on my TikTok feed of magician secrets. Like they give away their secrets? They don't. Someone else does.

And so I watched David Copperfield who floated on a carpet all the way across the Grand Canyon on television in the 80s. And it's like, this is how he did. get it. And he goes to a ring first to show you that there's no wire, supposedly, and then he's flying over the grand canes just floating. And the camera scoots way back and you just see him floating. And then they break it down and they show you how he got through the ring and then how it was actually a helicopter way, way, way, way, way over. No way. It was carrying him? They was connected to. And the camera had moved back just enough to show you a very wide shot. And there's no way he's being carried by anything.

But it was just a really long helicopter. I wonder if I can find that. Does that kind of ruin it for you, though? Ruin it? Like, I don't believe in real magic. I know, but, like, come on, guys, like. It was never real. It was never real, so I'm curious at how they pulled it off.

I know, but it's like, dang, you believe in magic? Maybe. It's more fun to have the fantasy of, like, maybe you never know. Not for me, so maybe for you. All right, that's fine. David Copperfield. You guys are, like, telling a four-year-old that. Whoa, whoa, whoa, easy.

Whatever you're about to say. Candy is not getting for you. Can you figure out how he did it? In 1984, the famous magician David Copperfield performed a leap over the Grand Canyon in Colorado spanning 16,000 kilometers. This magic act shocked audiences worldwide because David actually appeared to be flying.

Let's revisit the entire process of David's leap over the cave. I don't want to revisit the whole thing, but... It's a camera moving from in front of David to behind him, passing through a doorframe, and finally landing in front of the beauty. Now, let's uncover the secret. In reality, David achieved this through a helicopter with suspended wires because the helicopter flew higher than the camera's view, making the wires invisible to us.

How did David pass through the arches then? As we can see when David passed through the arches, there was always a curtain behind him. Inside this curtain was a support structure. I'll watch like 10 of these in a row. I did see the Statue of Liberty one. They give away that one too? Yeah.

They don't just show it again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You think Brandon searching for magic again? That's my algorithm. Show me magic. And don't ruin it. You know we kind of went viral a while back when I exposed the... Remember that kid that threw a touchdown pass to himself?

Like they show him throwing the pass and then he runs and then runs really fast and catches it? Do you remember that video? Like a clip? Not like a game. Not as a clip. It's a clip. Like out in the park or something. Yes.

I debunk that. Do you remember that? Must have been like 12 years ago. No. Mr. Perfect did that in wrestling back in the day. He chunks like 60 yards and then runs under and catches it and goes, perfect. And then you realize it's just camera editing.

It's a camera edit. Yeah. But it's so funny. And you debunked a camera edit? Well, because no one, everyone was like, this is amazing. This is so cool. How did he do that? He's so fast.

Look how he runs so quickly to catch his own path. I'm like, guys, it's an edit. You don't see the ball. He throws the ball of the air. You never see the ball. So someone else chunks it. So we recreated it. Who did?

Yeah, me and lunchbox. But I think, were people just stupid that day? No, no, because they believed it. And then when they saw it's like, oh, you didn't do, that's not real. I'm like, no, that's exactly how the guy did it. But we had hundreds and thousands of views of that. Hundreds and thousands. Did you get paid for him?

I don't remember. Do you remember anything like this? I do remember them doing that. But was the video easily editing? Yeah. The original one. The original one, yeah. So people were like, why are you debunking something?

we already knew? No, no one thought that it was edited. The original one, no one thought that was edited. They thought this guy was super fast. I just don't remember, so I apologize. It's okay. The one I remember that people thought was real was Tom Brady throwing the ball into the gun. Yeah. Oh, right. Yeah. The baseball pitching thing that they use the, yeah. And then the hands machine. Yeah. And he thought Ben to catch it, shoot it back out. That was editing. You guys should debunk that one. Yeah. Didn't Patrick Mahomes also throw over the stadium? Like from outside into Arrowhead? I don't know, but I think maybe that could happen. I think from the inside out, wasn't it?

One of the two, where he threw it from... I would need to see it, because if it's like crazy, crazy, I don't believe anything. I know. I'm throwing it in or out of a stadium is pretty crazy. But I think if you're outside of it, you can throw it over the wall. You think so? Well, with an arm that can throw like 70, 80 yards, I would think... Like, if you're right on it on the edge of the wall, obviously you need to back up enough to get the angle.

Yeah. I don't know. I saw that maybe. Joe Milton? Oh, did you see the Joe Milton one with the moving guy? Dude. Does he have to throw it from the outside parking lot to the field? Or can it just go over the wall?

Because I think over the wall, any decent quarterback can do. And then hitting the very top bleachers. Yeah. Yeah, I don't remember. Oh, Patrick Mahomes throws a football outside of the stadium. Okay, so he throws it from in the stadium out. Yeah. Real or not?

I think it's real. This is how everyone watches those videos. I'll send it to you. Was it a Gatorade commercial or was it just like a random clip? Yeah, because then there was a fantasy football commercial. back in the day where they were punching through walls and catching footballs. Remember? Chris Chambers and all that. There was also the Christmas basketball one where they were playing the Christmas Carol to the Nets.

Yes. That was cool. Oh, yeah. Is that fate? Of course. Wait a minute. Yes, whatever it was. All right. That's cool.

We got some stuff to talk about. Who's going to win the Heisman? I made two bets before the year started and they both are going to be losers because I had bet Lenora Sellers. South Carolina, he got hurt. Obviously, South Carolina, kind of lost a little bit of their team. And then I also bet Nussmeier at LSU. He's hurt.

Yeah, there's something up that we don't know. They're not saying anything? No. So those are my two bets that are not going to win. Here are the leaders for the Heisman. Who do you think is going to win? Dante Moore. I'm hoping Dante Moore because I have two of his cards.

Oh, you didn't bet him, though? Nah. Are they signed cards? Signed. That's good. Are they graded? Not graded UCLA

Because he was UCLA, right? Mm-hmm Yeah I dug him up like three days ago I'm like where are these cards They're here somewhere Perfect condition I think so

Oregon quarterback Dante Moore is the current betting favorite At plus 600 Let's go baby Yeah current favorite But those aren't Awesome odds To say he's going to for sure win it

No plus 600 Like you can still make some decent money on that John Mateer had been leading But he had a hand surgery with Oklahoma So he's going to miss a couple games they played this week, I think Kent State and they're Texas next week. Oklahoma?

Yeah, and he shouldn't, I think he's missing both of those games. Miami's Edge Rusher, Rubin Bain. I just don't see a defensive player winning it. Absolutely not. Diego Pavia, if they beat Alabama this week and he has a good game, he's now up there in the top two or three. That'd be awesome. South Carolina running back Robert Henry Jr.,

averaging nine yards of carry and Alabama quarterback, Ty Simpson. his name's Bracin Simpson That's what they call him Ty? I did not know that How do you get Ty from Bracin? I need to make sure this is right. Is this name Bracin Simpson?

I did not know Ty was Bracin. This says his real name is also Ty Simpson. Tyler James Simpson. I wonder why he says Alabama quarterback Bracin Simpson has thrown for 1100 yards. That's weird.

Yeah, CBS Sports. I can do the parlay this week. Here's what I have Would you mind type in the sink, Kevin? Yep. See what the odds are. So here's what I'm going with. Hold on, let me pull it up.

Kentucky at Georgia, I'm going Georgia minus 20 and a half. Got it down. Penn State at UCLA. This is a Penn State. Hey, don't forget about us. We're still a good game. I'm going Penn State

minus 24 and a half. Got her down. Did you say Kentucky Plus? No. You missed it. Trains moved on. Oh, come on, man. I need to jump up.

on this parlay. I'll go back over in a second. Texas Tech minus 11.5 at Houston. It's not even an away game. So we got Georgia minus 20 and a half. Oh, minus 20. Got it. Penn State minus 24 and a half and Texas Tech minus 11 and a half. You got plus 589.

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podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slica Life 12 and TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Eddie wants to walk us through some would you rathers. Yeah, these are just things, dumb questions my kids ask me while I'm trying to watch football. So I was like, let me ask the guys. Okay. Would you rather be an NFL running back or an NFL receiver? I would rather be an NFL wide receiver.

Longer lifespan. You're just not getting hit all the time. I mean, you're, you peak at 30. That, you know, that's what they say. There are a couple that beat that. 30 years old, they start to look at you as you got. too much tread off the tire. Yeah.

Wide receivers, you can be 34. Yeah. An extra three or four years if all things are the same. Yeah. And wide receivers are a little more in demand right now. Like more offenses are built around wide receivers than they are running the ball. You get paid more? Everything.

Yeah, I would go wide receiver. Yeah, I do the same thing easily. Receivers without question. They get paid more than running backs? Yeah. Unless you're Sequan, but then even you compare the highest receiver to Seqon, the receiver still getting more. Yeah.

Like Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, they're making more than Sequin, I believe. Yeah. And that's the best versus the best. I'd rather be a quarterback, though. Than anything. Quarterback, okay. I think most people think of like quarterback.

Do you know what my problem would be? This would be my only problem, the memory of the place. Your only problem. I'd forget the place. I'm going to tell you why I don't think you would. Because when you hear them, it does sound like, wow. How do they remember all that? What I would compare it to are all the buttons you,

have to push when editing things. There's like 42 buttons and you know what they all mean, but you've learned that slowly from base on. And so you've learned how to do the main things, and you've learned the things that are on top of that. That's exactly what learning a playbook is. So they just kind of muscle memory after a while? No, it's all the terms that you know with more terms that you know.

Yeah. So if you just walk into it and all the language is new and all the concepts are new, yes. But if someone walked into what you're doing right now with all those buttons, they'd be like, I can never do this. This is like so intimidating because there's so much. much here. It's like when you walk in and look at the in the cockpit of an airplane. Oh, so many buttons. Or a recording studio when they're singing. But I even think with a recording studio, we've done so much, we can figure that out. Yeah. But it does look very overwhelming.

I think that's what happens whenever you hear a quarterback play. It sounds so overwhelming. All these words you don't know. When it's all those words you don't know, you're like, I don't know any of this. This is going to swallow me up. But when you know what all the words means, it's much easier because they go together too. Yeah. And they all mean something as far as like one word will mean the linemen are doing something. One word means the receivers are doing something. And then in your head, you're like, okay, a lineman here, receivers here, boom, boom, boom.

Yeah, but that's the thing that seems complicated is that the quarterback knows what everyone is doing. The linemen, if they only hear their keyword, then they get the command of what they're doing. But they're really just listening for that one key word. Well, the linemen are calling their blocking schemes as well, which is different. Oh, do they call their own, like offensive?

The center does. Yeah, I do a lot of talking on there. Yeah. You got him, you got him, blah, blah. Oh, that's why they point their fingers? No, they're talking crap. I hate you. I hate you.

And then the quarterbacks have to look sometimes at their sleeve, like at the menu. I'm like, gosh, that just looks tough. What am I going to have? But talking with even Matt Castle a bunch, I've been able to be better at breaking down what plays mean. If someone's like, you know, 32-based dive alert, 28, 38-2. I'm like, oh, that's two plays.

So that's like 28-based-eye alert means if he calls alert, they're going to the second play. That's the backup play. They'll call two plays at once. So when you see them on the line going, alert, alert, all they're doing is saying, I called two plays at once, and you heard the second play,

so we're changing now. That is so cool. And the quarterback depends on what the defense is doing. He looks at the defense set up, he's like, all right, we're changing it. Yeah. That's so cool. And it just sounds like a bunch of words

with alert in the middle, but then you realize, oh, okay, alert is actually the middle. If he says that, here's the second play. But yeah. because I feel like I could have been a quarterback man my arm is good like I have a good quarterback arm

I remember when I played in high school I was a receiver I wasn't a quarterback but the quarterback was always like let me warm up with Eddie that said a lot probably because I didn't need you out doing the rest of the stuff well yeah I didn't start I wasn't gonna be yeah I wasn't gonna be at the beginning but he wanted to throw with me because he kind of get a good

rhythm did you ever try out why would a quarterback want someone who could throw good back to him that was just the rhythm man the rhythm of like just back at you because I remember this one guy was like I'll warm up with you Danny and he's like no no no give me Eddie I want to warm up with Eddie did the coach ever go up just up I don't know maybe

did you hear the coach being like hey warm up with Eddie so he feels involved like I demand you warm up with Eddie he didn't catch any balls in practice this week let's get him over here we need to give him a shot yeah all right what else you got let's see would you rather be a kicker or a punter

that's a tough one I think this one's tougher it's definitely tougher now kickers are more famous Yeah. Kickers also have more pressure. Lots of stress. Kickers get cut a lot more than punters do.

You get a strong punter. You really can't lose that job. Yeah. You miss a few kicks in a row. You'll lose your job. Oh, yeah. Unless you're Mason Crosby, and even then when you suck,

they're like, should we cut Mason Crosby? Even though he's been a fixture, and eventually they cut Mason Crosby. But it took like 12 years. Yeah, but it did. Yes. I mean, you've got to be Justin Tucker and be doing stuff. Oh.

Pretty much. Even Young Hoku, he was like the best kicker in the game last year. And that freaking Falcons cut him. And he's done. They even put up a message, thank you, young Hokku on their Instagram when they cut him. Yeah. For your service to our team. Goodbye.

Why did they cut him? He kept missing kicks. Oh. Because they framed that as like he was missing the game for like personal reasons. No, they cut him. Dang. Yeah, personal reasons he couldn't make a kick. He personally couldn't make a kick.

And we took it personally. Yes. I think because of my ego, it's kicker of the two. You want to be like... Yeah, I want a shot to be the guy. And you do, you do get a shot. I think if it were just about having consistency and having a spot in the league,

I think that attitude probably goes to a punter. For me, I want to put my balls out there. I want to prove. And I'll take the risk of being cut. So I would go kicker. But my life has not been about finding what's consistent. my life's about being trying to be dynamic and then seeing what happens. And hopefully not getting cut.

Yeah. That's the story of my life. Yeah. What would you rather do? I'd probably rather punt just because I think that'd be such a great lifestyle. Like you could do 10, 15 years, be chilling, punt in all practice. We've been to some of the practices. The punters are just like off to the side, just hanging out, throwing balls around, kicking balls.

What about the fact that the punter has to hold a lot, though? Yeah. I'd be like, can the backst quarterback do it? He's better at holding the ball. Yeah, he's more comfortable with football. but that's a good point. Nobody ever talks about the holder enough. The only time the holder gets talked about it is when he screws up.

Yeah. But I can hold. Let's do it, man. And then I would just yell fire, fire, and roll out and do a two-point play every time too. They're like, you've done this four times in a row. He's cut. Yeah.

He's cut. Okay. I think I'd have a problem being a punter because no one wants to see me play, ever. Yeah, because you only come out in a bad situation. You only come out when things aren't good. That's fair. But man, when they get fired up, funny too.

The punters? Yeah, they like jump up and down and start flexing. I think it would be cool too to fake a hit, you know, like roughing the kicker. Like I think that's kind of cool. Like when they just tap you a little bit and then they got to fake it. You do leave yourself very vulnerable. Yeah. Let that leg up there.

I think the punter is probably a better overall job. Life expectancy. Yeah, safe. Quality of life, not going freaking crazy. And you played in the NFL. Yeah, and you don't lose your job as easy. I think that's a big part. Brandon, what would you rather do?

I'm going to say I want to punt for the Colts this season because they've only punted like once or twice. So you don't want to play really? I don't want to play. I thought you were just saying you're a big fan. Yeah. I thought he's like, I'm big Maccalfrey guys. Okay, next up.

All right, the last one, would you rather be an offensive coordinator or a defensive coordinator? For me, it's easily offense because I play fantasy football. So I only really pay attention to the offense. It's the only only you ever done. That's a good point. Yeah, so that, it just seems more fun, and it's an offensive game now. Yeah.

So I think you want to be a head coach. It's probably, not always, because a lot of the culture of defensive guys get the job. But you want to be a head coach, be freaking great as an offensive mind. So I'd go offense there. Yeah, I'd probably do the same thing. More glamorous, too. It'd just be more fun. Like, defense is tough, especially nowadays.

My shoulders aren't broad enough to be a defensive coordinator. No, they can be kind of squarely and be an offensive coordinator. You can be like, Mike and Daniel. He ain't a defensive coordinator. No. He doesn't matter how much he studied. He ain't going to be a defensive coordinator. Like you got to be like a big dude to be a defensive coordinator.

The defensive players aren't going to trust you. Like a Robert Sala. Yeah. Like he looks like he could go out there and play defense right now. Yeah, like a Vrabel. Oh, yeah. A Sala. He doesn't look like he can play right now, Vrable.

What? He gets out and practice right now. Yeah, dude. Brandon, what would your other be? Look at me. Offense. Duh. Yeah, I look at you.

Fresh haircut today. Hey, thanks, man. Thanks, Eddie. Yeah, I noticed when he walked in. Eddie brought it up. You know what I tell my kids when they ask me these questions? I don't know. Leave me a low.

I'm trying to watch the game. We do 10 minutes on it. Okay, you want to talk about signs at games? Yeah, I've just been noticing people. I mean, they've been doing it for years. But, like, I want to ask you guys, like, have you ever taken a sign to a game? Because mad respect to the people that wake up, get tickets to the game and be like, you know what? I'm going to get the poster board.

I'm going to think of something funny to write on it. And I'm going to take it to the game. You have to take it with you everywhere you go. Yeah, and I feel like you can't hold it up the whole game either because, one, your arms get tired, but two, it annoys the people around you. They can't see. Yeah. Yeah. No, I've never taken a sign to a game.

Ever? I feel like you would for an Arkansas game or something. No. Do you ever think about? No. Not a sign. I thought about painting myself a couple times. Oh.

And just decided. Wait, wait, wait, wait. It was too cold. What age? Yeah, this is important. College. Okay. This was for the Notre Dame game.

Yeah. No, no, no, no. I didn't end up going. College. Okay, good. Just making sure. Is this around the time you storm the field? Yeah, but I didn't do it.

There were a couple times where I was like, I should paint myself all black. Like your whole box. Stop, stop, dude. That's tough, though, right? Like, if you're a Purdue fan, like, I guess you go gold. You better. Yeah, if you and your buddy are, okay, one of us is going to be gold, one of us going to be black. No.

No, you both need to be half and half. You need to be happy Nobody's gonna be all black We'll flip the coin One of it was his gold When it was his black That's a tense coin flip Oh man

You know what I'm not going to the game guys How much paint do you have to like Buy to cover yourself with paint Like that's a just That's an investment It's a lot You see the Cardinals guy last week Who literally looked like a cardinal

Arizona No the guy in the stands You didn't see him Uh uh uh His face he literally like painted a beak I swear, If those guys don't like it on TV or tagged it's something,

I bet their days run. Oh yeah. It's the failure. All that work. I think I would more likely take a sign to a wrestling event than I would have football game. Yeah.

They're more accepted. I haven't. But I think that would be. Grace, my sister-in-law took a sign and got on college game day. No way. That's cool. Yeah, I need to ask Caitlin what the sign said

because it was hilarious. I don't want to mess it up. Hey, we're doing 25 whistles and we're talking about signs in football games. Can you tell me, or are you going to even text it? What was the sign that Grace had when you got in college game day? Because I don't want to mess it up

because it was so funny. All right, thank you. I do like the signs that, like, troll other teams, you know, like they do on college game day. You know, if it's clever and witty. But I wouldn't bring one. I like the ones that are like,

if it's on CBS, they do, like, C, B, S and they do like Can't beat Syracuse. I'll jump in and help you. I didn't know where you were going. I saw you struggling over there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know what I'm saying. Yeah, those are old school. Those are cool. NFL fans, what's your favorite touchdown? For me, well, it's the next touchdown because with Draft King Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner of the NFL, every touchdown, could bring you closer to cashing in.

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and TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Okay, I have a little game. And I'll wait for a Caitlin's text back. We're going to do Big Take or Big Fake. Okay? So people swear by things like icing the kicker or the hot hand. Data says either true or false. Okay?

So I am going to throw a claim out and you decide. I wrote Big Take or Big Fake. that's kind of stupid. Now I want to read it back. You said hot. No, no. Hot hand is one of the things. That means like somebody's really performing well at the time, so keep giving them the ball. So like more of a true or false thing? Yeah, let's just do that. Okay. It's stupid. It's like the sign. Sometimes you just don't write

something good on the side. I didn't work this one out. Can't beat Syracuse, man. Okay. I sing the kicker. I sing the kicker. Do you think that's a true, do you think it works or data has proven that it doesn't really work? Think about it. Kevin? Yeah, I don't... I think data will show that it has not worked. Brandon? I'm going to say it hasn't worked either.

Eddie? I'm going to say data has shown that it has not worked, but I think it does work. Well, no, no, but data is showing. I'm going to disagree with that. He's like, I promise the world's flat. Even though they have proven it, the world is for sure flat. No, it doesn't work. Timeouts...

Oh, you want to hear the sign that Grace did? Yes, yes, you got it? Yeah, that's quick. Right on TV, she's holding up a sign. This says, I skip my morning poop for this. Oh, my God. Whoa. For sure, they were like, I got a sign for you, director.

And she's like small, pretty athletic. Yeah. And she's holding it with her son to skip my morning poop for this. And she's right on game day holding it. Wow. When was this? It was at Oklahoma State. I don't know, six, seven years ago probably.

Oh, okay, never mind. Did you see it? No, I saw something similar a couple weeks ago. I didn't know if it was similar. They stole it from grace. They had to have, yeah. Okay, so I seen the kick. timeouts mostly don't change make rates yeah pressure and kick distance are the real drivers

if anything it ices the audience it does we're like stupid timeout it pisses us off yeah so no they have they have determined that icing the kicker really does not affect the kicker would you do that if you're a head coach you think would you ice the kicker i think my thing would be faking icing the kicker yeah everybody knows it's going to come and i would have my defense out there going You know we're going to call time out anyway. You know we're going to call time out anyway. Just saying crap like that. Oh, that's good.

And then not call time out. That's a great idea. Would you run up to the ref with your hands ready like that and then you never do it? No, because then they might call time out thinking your hands were closer. Yeah. Okay. So I think I would do the reverse ice. I do the heat.

Oh. But I would definitely tell my team go out there and act like you know we're about to call time out. Like you guys that are playing linebacker or rush in. Like you don't have to get down. Just be like lolligig. And it'd be like, we're going to call time out. Hey, everybody chill. We're calling time out anyway.

We're going to call time out for sure, for sure. And then don't. That's so smart. Wow. Okay, next up. The hot hand in basketball. If somebody's on fire, get on the ball. Because they're going to stay hot.

Easy breezy. Eddie? That's true. Kevin? Yeah, that's true. I've seen it so many times. Brandon? Based on my favorite game, NBA Jam, he's on fire.

It's definitely true. The ball is actually on fire He's heating up He's on fire From downtown For example A player hits three in a row You keep giving the ball

Because the odds are he's going to hit another Right It's not true What are you talking about? I don't believe it Streaks look real But they're often Completely random

And because somebody's made shots before It doesn't mean they're going to make the next shot Yeah I guess data Okay I didn't make this up I know Have you ever watched stuff carry before I think he's just good

I don't think that's even a street He's an outlier Yeah But the same thing That's what they're saying With players too Like for the most part There's also confidence

Where you're just a little more confident And that affects the game But they say no The clutch gene Does the clutch gene exist Ooh That's like passing on Like to your children

That you're clutch Well it's not really a genetic Passing to the child But like you have it You are just quality When the pressure's on You are better Okay.

What do you think? I definitely don't have that one. Are you writing it down? Yeah, yeah. I'm in. I'm in. I'm locked in. Kevin?

Yeah, I watched it for 20 years. It absolutely exists. Tom Brady. Brandon? Growing up, I was a big fan of Robert Ory, and that dude came in clutch every single time. Eddie? Yes, I don't have an example, but yes, it exists.

I think it's interesting both of you, because even with every single time, you just remember the times it did work. That's true. Oh, because there were definitely times that it didn't. Yeah, there were definitely times when he missed shots. Like big shot Rob didn't make every shot, but the ones he did were so famous. Right.

And with Tom Brady, it wasn't just Tom. It was offensive coordinator. It was, yeah, he was making plays. So they say some players do perform well late, but year to year, it wobbles. And data has shown that these players that are making big plays, it's really just, depending on that exact situation because some years those players do it really well and the next year they don't at all

but we remember the ones when they do and we assign that to them because let's say Robert Ori makes three, three pointers into three different games and wins three games but he misses seven the next year he's still a big shot Rob because we don't really remember the ones he misses that's a good point I think even Kobe was like that we know Kobe for all the big shots and being clutch

but like if you look at the numbers I'm pretty sure they're pretty bad defense wins championships Hmm, that's tough. I mean, I feel like... And I think there are also examples of people that break the general rule. I think Tom Brady, even Joe Burrow, I remember the story of him playing high school basketball, and he was a state championship game, and they put a heart monitor on him, and he had to make free throws to win the game, and his heart never went up.

Wow. Even with the club. Like, I think there are people that are wired different. It doesn't always mean they're going to perform different, but if you can keep your pulse down, you can think a lot clearer. Yeah, for sure. And so some people, there are those people that are physiologically different, but this is general data. So it doesn't say that everybody's not that like a Tom Brady.

Right. But generally speaking, the clutch gene with people who do perform, they find that it's different year to year. Did you see the heart rate on the rider cup players? They did that one of the days where they were, you know, right before they would hit the drive or whatever, you see their heart rate go up, up, up, up, up. Really? Oh, yeah. Right before they would swing. Mine would be like every freaking charm.

I know this is going in the woods Yeah Or Eddie yelling water Water Case you didn't see it Defense won championships I'm ready Yeah man

You? Yeah Brandon I want to say yes But I'm gonna say no Eddie I'm gonna go with a trend No

So here's what they say Yeah defense wins championships But yeah but so does offense So it's just halfway Like there are the occasional team That is so dominated by one side of the ball And you can go like Baltimore Ravens defense But there are also offensive teams

that have won with a great offense and a subpar defense. I think of like Kurt Warner Rams. They're a pretty good defense, but I don't think it was one of the best in the NFL. I could be wrong about that. It was the greatest show on turf. But the Eagles, I beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl. Brady threw 500 yards.

Generally speaking, elite teams need both top tier offense and defense, or top tier one and mid-other to win a championship. in the modern NBA and NFL. Wow. Yeah, I mean. That makes sense. That is so straightforward. Like, Dad is not having any fun with this.

Data doesn't dream. They don't ever run. Yeah, Dad, I don't want to play with your feelings. Oh. Let me do one more. Momentum is real. And last into next week. Oh, next week?

I'm in. Yeah. Yeah. Kevin? You're good? Yes. Brandon? I can't remember if it was you in Castle,

talking about this, but somebody had a good point, and I'm going to say no. What was the point? I don't remember. I couldn't tell you. No, it was the point of saying, there was a question saying, like, does momentum help? Is momentum even real? And I think Castle said what you just said about, like, Joe Burrow, you know, when you're an even-kill person and you're not affected by any of that, you can create opportunities when

things are down when things are up anytime. Ready? Momentum on a drive? Yes. Going from week to week, no. So I'm just going to just say no, it's not real. In-game swings happen, but week-to-week, momentum fades once injuries, matchups, and travel, enter. There you go.

Like outside forces enter internal, which is why it can more so be per game. Like, you'll have confidence, you get pumped out by the crowd, then the opposite where momentum continues week to week to week. because of things that don't actually happen in the game. Anyway. That's interesting. I know if that was interesting or not. The data's interesting.

Because, man, you can watch a game and you think, like, you see it and you can summarize it one way just by how you watched it. But then you look at the data and you're like, wow, they were not a lot of completions. Hey, speaking of golf, did you play golf? I did. I did. I went by myself, got teamed up with a couple of random people. Man, it was interesting.

Do you play? I haven't played at all. That was the first time I played. since our thing. And you just were like, I was going to go play? I had time. Usually I ask my wife, like, what are we doing today? She's like, nothing on the calendar today.

Can't call me and be like, you want to play golf? You weren't here. I would have. You weren't here. But so I get teamed up. I usually show up and I'm like, hey, you have room for a walker? And they go, oh, probably not, but I put your name on the list.

And they finally called my name like 30 minutes later. I get teamed up with three guys. I'm walking because I like to exercise. I got a push cart. And then this one guy shows up in a cart by himself and then another walker. And then the walker goes, you mind if I ride with you? Talking to the guy in the cart.

And the guy in the cart's like, sure, man, no problem. Throw your bags on the cart. The guy throws his bags on the cart, his bag on the cart, reaches into his bag, gets a Bluetooth speaker, screws it to the side of the golf cart, starts blaring music, never asked the guy once. Like, hey, you mind if I play music? He just, like, made himself at home. And he was like angels from Montgomery or something, you know, like it starts. starts blaring it and I started thinking like who is this guy and I look at the other guy I'm like

did he ask you even play music he's like no man I don't know this guy at all both are weird because he's a walker who's I guess not wanting to pay the cart fee yeah yeah because it's like it's much cheaper it's like can I ride with you were you already past the first hole no we hadn't even teed off yet oh my oh that's weird because you would think you would do it later so you don't get seen by the pro shop no man yeah that seems like a weird guy yeah I wouldn't have the balls to do that no I and a little bit I like respect it I don't respect it because you can't do that. But a little bit of respect just the gall to do that.

And the guy didn't say anything the whole round. I'm, I'm saying he probably said a total of five words the entire round. That's weird. It was bizarre. Did you enjoy that experience? No. No. And I love to play golf by myself.

I don't mind getting paired up with random people. I usually just make friends with them and talk about random things with them. This one was weird. The longer I don't play golf, the more I don't want to play golf, which doesn't sound like it would be right because the longer you don't eat, you want to eat more. Yeah.

The longer you don't. But when I don't play golf for a long time, I'm like, well, if I start back, I'm going to be pretty bad. I haven't played in two months and I know it's going to be brutal the first time I go out there or the second time I go out there.

So if it's like borderline ever, I haven't played in a while, I'm just not going to play. And then it's just worse and worse when I don't want to play. Then it gets winter. And I'm like, you know, I'm going to go and sit all the winter out

because why would I even go and play when it's cold when I'm going to suck. Yeah. Well, it is one of the sports, though, where you feel like if you're going to play, you've got to play, like, consistently. Especially if you're going to hold yourself accountable. Yeah.

Like, if you're just going out to, I don't know, have fun, I mean, at least sometimes I'll just go out and go out and be, I'll have a few beers. Obviously, Bobby, you don't do that. I've never went to play golf and had fun just seeing what happened. What do you mean? Like, I never think, I'm just going to go play golf and hit some balls, and I just have fun regardless.

You're trying to shoot well? Every time? Every time. Yeah, so am I? but if I'm playing terrible I don't have fun I've never had fun while playing I've had fun while playing mid

or below mid if it's like an awesome group and they're also playing below mid because if you're playing with your group if you're playing with your group and like one or two of them are killing it like your group of people like you know and you're sucking

oh that's the word and then they give you pointers it's the oh yeah I don't do not give me pointers we canceled that years ago because we all suck so it's like why am I learning from you yeah the back

shot, you just put your head down and just don't say anything. And the only thing worse than playing bad with your people is playing bad with people that you don't know if it's like, oh, we've never played before, but we know each other. And you're like, I promise I'm better than this. And you really are. Yes. That's a miserable experience. I have another question for you with this guy. Kind of just thought about it. So every time he'd hit a good shot, I'd be like, good shot, dude, nothing. Never responded. When people say good shot and maybe Kevin, maybe you don't have any good shots. So we'll take you of this. What the heck?

No, no, no. Why am I taking strays right now? Well, because I feel like if you hit a good shot, it's a big deal and everybody would be like, good shot. You'd be like, wow, thank you. But for us. Hey, dude, that was kind of a stray. He had that 300-yarder, bro. Right, right. No offense. What he's saying is you're the worst golfer by far. And if you hit a good shot, we would say good shot and you'd be like, thank you. Poppers. Bung! Dang, dude, we got to go golfing again, Eddie. Pull the talk. So do you say thank you when people say good shot?

Yes. Like I do. Yeah. This guy didn't say crap. Sounds like he was just socially awkward anyway. I guess that's one way of putting it. Yeah. The first thing I thought I was like, wow, like he's a dick.

Like some people are just dicks. I would say that there are some people who don't, they're not being a dick on purpose. Really? Yeah, of course. They just don't give and receive social. Q's the same. Yeah. And I don't know this guy could have been a dick, but I feel like this is not really a dick thing. It's just somebody who doesn't understand socially what is welcomed or accepted. So he does his own thing thinking it's normal. Wow. Like in his mind, I don't think he

thought he was doing anything weird. Yeah. I don't think he turned a heel on the golf course and he's just going to be out there to piss everybody off. But I feel like he's, he was an older dude. And I feel like older people, you know better. Like you've lived long enough to know what annoys people or what isn't nice. That might be it though. He might be. He's so old that he's like, I don't give an F anymore. Or maybe he can't hear it all. So Angel from Montgomery. It was so loud.

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and TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. There was a clip, and I saw this a couple days ago. It was Florida A&M, and he's the band announcer, so he does the PA, and he's like, okay, and they were, the other team was another. It was like North Carolina A&A. Well, let's find the other team. Longtime band announcer for Florida A&M, Joe Bullard, is under fire for what he said about the opposing teams plus size dance team, the honeybees. Alabama State. That's what it is, Alabama State.

Oh, man, what do you say? Well, so, and you even hear in the crowd, I guess I'll all on TikTok. Them go, oh. Okay, would you play the audio mic? Congratulations them. They're now the new face of Ozzyp. Come on, dude. A couple things.

I didn't know they had, quote, plus size dance team. Me neither. Oh, are they purposely plus size? I don't know their intention on their size, but they call themselves that every time I've seen this story described, if it's either by people talking about it or in this story, it says, quote, Alabama State's plus size dance team. And so they do their thing and then he says this. And then I saw people demanding he be fired and look, I don't think everybody should be fired for every stupid thing that they do. I think this is probably a stupid thing to say. He probably

thought it was going to be welcome with more laughs than groans. Yeah, I think you're trying to be funny. No, no, no, no, man, do you really think people are going to laugh at that? There's no way people are going to, maybe a couple of people are going to be like, that was funny. I'm seeing a picture of the guy in the dance group. Last I saw he didn't get fired. I don't think he should be fired. He can't apologize and all that. I'm okay with that because I think you can apologize for things.

I've learned this, but our culture just wants to fire people immediately. Yeah. I think he'd been there forever. I don't support what he said. I can't believe he said it, but I also don't think he should be fired. If he's doing this like three weeks in a row. Okay. And he's always just like over the line.

Right. Up there heckling the team. Then maybe we talk. But the other team was demanding he be fired. I don't like the comment for the record. I wouldn't have said that. I think it was wrong and over the line. I just want to make sure that that's said.

Loud and clear. But I don't think he should be fired. Tyreek Hill's going to be out. Well, that was bad. Well, it just was like he hurt his leg and they're like, oh, his knee. And then it turns out it was more than that. There was some ligament. And also, when you depend on speed and also,

when you're getting older and you depend on speed and your speed is actually decreasing a bit and then this happens, like this is probably the end for him except for Shell of that appears one more time. Yes. And is never quite what he used to be and makes one more run. Yes. Except run slower.

That's got to be tough when you're so fast like that and then... Even age is probably so tough on you. Yeah, because he was already getting up there. And he's got 84 kids, so he's got to carry all them. That's true. Yeah, and $3 million and legal fees to pay them. He paid like, What was it like?

300,000 a month or something for the divorce he's going through right now. If you saw the horrific leg injury, Tyreek Hill suffered during the Monday night football game between the dolphins and jets. He is out for the year. The good news is his agent Drew Rosenhaus says the damage was fixed in one operation. And the goal is to have Hill ready for the start of next year. The injury happened in the third quarter. And they had listed all of them.

And it's multiple ligaments that were torn. Yeah. Right. But whenever your thing is fast ligaments and you're getting old, annual ligaments are torn, I can't ever see him coming back and being that dude. He's not a big guy. Yeah. He's a fast guy.

So it's also not like he can just change his game and now be a possession receiver. Right. Yeah, he definitely won't be the same. That's from CBS Sports. Tubey will stream the Thanksgiving Day NFL game. So they'll simulcast it on Thanksgiving. It's not Tubi's first. It's their second.

They stream the Super Bowl. It may watch Tubey. It's a free streaming service. It's an app I see on my TV. I've never clicked on it, though. Oh, it's a lot of toby. You do? Yeah.

I know somebody that works at Tooby, and they are an executive at a network. And they're like, I've now taken over Tooby. Oh. And that, to me, it sounds like a telotubby. Yeah. Oh, that's cute. Telatubi. Yeah.

Teletubi. But there's like an old movie from the 2000s I can't find. I go on Tooby and I can watch it there. Oh. Is it kind of starting to pop a little bit? Yeah, they even have like original stuff too. Like, some of the movies they make are really ridiculous, but that's kind of what they're known for.

Does Toby have any original shows that I've watched? shows none come to mind I've only seen movies on there I have a song in a Tubeby movie coming out it's called Sidelined 2

intercepted What is it a football movie? Yeah How's the song go? It's a they're doing like an outdoor country scene Like you know Tailgates, beers and all that stuff

And the song is like It's a country song Give us a little bit Do you sing it? Yeah yeah yeah It's like, oh man, how's it go? I mean, you probably write so many songs. Yeah, I have to think of it, but it's like, you never think of a country song getting placed in movies or shows, but it's happening more and more now.

So. You don't remember it? To be originals. It's something like, you know, I'm easy. Easy like Sunday morning. Last night, it's a Lionel thing. I feel like I heard that song. So I did Lionel Richie and hosted a hour and a half. Q and A with him, and they were sure to say he's not singing. There's no band. He's not going to get up there and sing

Acapella for whatever. But the audience kept going like, sing, sing, sing it. Oh, guys. Sing it. Yeah. And a little bit, I would like push him to just do a little something and be like, easy. And they'd be like, woo, they start screaming so loud, you couldn't even hear him anymore, so he'd stop. Oh, man. Like the crowd didn't know how to actually encourage and then give him, positive without shutting him down because he'd be like yeah I'd be like hello is it me oh and the car we go like what they start screaming over him

yeah and then he's like okay no stop that's enough or if you just be quiet because he's not he's not singing loud because he doesn't have a band he's just singing while talking he'd be like yeah and I saw him in the studio and I was like hello and they got like

whoa so they wanted him to sing they kept shutting him down from singing because they would react like that. Well, we heard the couple nights before when they did the New York City thing with Robin Roberts. They thought he was singing. There were fans that were pissed and they left. So, me and Reed are outside of Paramount Theater before the show. They have these big signs on the door. I took a picture of one. It says, this is not a musical performance. They're everywhere. Because people are having problems with this. Yeah. When he went out at first, he walked up and

he goes, it's awkward for me because I don't have a band here. So usually I just want to want to come out and sing, but I can't tonight. I can't sing tonight. He made it very clear at the beginning. It ain't happening. And then he would have like hopped into stuff, but every time he did, the crowd would yell over him. So it's not, the one is in the front were loud. And he's not going to keep singing acapella over a crowd. So they were like working against themselves. Yeah. It was good though. But that hello song, his Lionel story, as he was in a studio, and his producer was real late and he heard somebody come in and he goes

the guy goes hello and Lionel goes, is it? He didn't sing in the exact melody. He goes, is it me you're looking for? No way. And the guy goes, you should write that. And he goes, I don't know, that kind of sounds stupid. And he goes, but I tried to write it

and then turns out, hello? Not stupid. That's pretty cool. There's some great stories. Yeah. Yeah, no, he's like, he's very, he's a captivating way of speaking.

Yeah. And I'd be like, I know, like I read most of the book and so I knew a lot of the answers but I wanted to lead him to places. And so let's say I wanted to lead him to a story about the Jackson 5 of Michael Jackson that I wanted to hear specifically.

So I hear what he's saying, find the perfect pivot point to get from that question to the next and ask what I would feel be the perfect question without a lot of words just so I could set him up. And if I'm like, yeah, talk about it.

And it'd be like, yeah, so you talked about that the Jackson 5, what's that? He'd go like, I was eating dinner one night, right? He would start like seven steps before he would get to the point. So like he would hear a question and then go reverse on even the answer and build up to it. And in the middle, he gives the beginning of the answer and he, yeah, that's great. That's awesome. Mr. Bones. Mr. Bones. Is that what he calls? Yeah. Yeah. But and you guys saw him, you were backstage with me. Yeah. He's the nicest guy. Oh, yeah. Talking to everybody. All the time. Yeah.

He's like the kindest nice. It's kind of hard to get to him because he does have a lot of people multiple security guards. But once you're there, you're with him. He had done Joe Rogan that day. And he had done like a two and a half hour interview on Joe Rogan. And I was like, you're tired? And he's like, tired. No, let's go, baby.

That's awesome. It's like in 70s. Yeah. Does Joe do that at his house? Yes. Yes. I believe so. I know they just built a new studio at the race car track.

Formula One. A circuit of Americas. Like a car condo, they call it, where they can do content and even podcast stuff there, but I believe the other stuff at his house. Lionel said that all Joe's, like guys that came out to get them,

looked like Joe, so he thought they were all Joe. They were like bald, muscular dudes. That's funny. Tanned. Yes. How do we feel, before we go, we got a couple things here,

how do we feel about Vandy at Alabama? Don't love it. I'm just going to say that right now, guys. I love Vandy. Love Diego, but Man, Alabama is Right now, this is crazy to say After week one a few weeks ago,

Alabama probably looks like the best team They are playing so good And they are out for blood Against Vandy after last year. This game especially. Yeah, I think they're out to just The crowd's gonna be crazy Which is weird to think

Alabama's getting hyped up Because Vandy's coming to town. I know. Yeah, they have a reason to stick the old pedal to the medal and just run it up on Vandy if possible. If Vandibald's able to play, if they win this game, like they're in the mix now for all of it.

Yeah. And I hope they do. Me too. For the record, I hope Vandy wins. Me too. Yeah, I really do. Loud and clear. Loud and clear, but I think it's going to be a bloodbath.

Eddie? Man, I want it to be close. I think Diego Pavia is going to keep it close. I think he's also on a mission to beat them again. At home, in Alabama. I don't know, man. I want it to be a close game, so I'm going to believe that it's going to be a close game,

more closer than we think it is. What's the line at, do you know? 10. 10. Yeah, 10 and a half. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Closer than that. Better than I thought.

So you would bet. Vandy plus 10. And a half. Yeah. That's a good bet. I stayed away from it because I don't think they will cover. I hope they do, but I don't think they will. And I don't want to bet Bama, even though I think they'll win because I don't have to root for that.

My rooting affects a lot of my betting. Yeah. I'm not able to separate. Same. Like with the Cowboys, I won't do it. By the way, and I'll end with this. In our little league. Oh, Joe Flacko is.

got benched for Dylan Gabriel. Yeah. I'm excited to see what he does. And his first start is in London. Yeah, and you know what? It's probably not going to be good, but nobody's is going to be good with the Browns. No.

Right. It's probably not going to be good. No. Were you surprised it was Dylan over Shador? No, because he's been number two the whole year. Shurder wasn't even taking snaps on the practice squad. Yeah. Even Flackard's number two now.

Yeah. They had Bailey Zappy taking snaps the practice squad over Shudor. Yeah. So no. Yeah. I wasn't. Okay.

Let me see. Let me see. What was that? Oh, I was going to... Our team, our money. So, we got in a... You did. We got in a league.

And we drafted all these teams and the more they win, we win money. But if they lose, we lose even more money. And so we have the Chiefs. And there's some upside there now. The fact that Worthy, I would say opened up the secondary because he's a...

threat guy. So you can't keep the safety's playing up, which opens up everything. The run, the intermediate passing, so worthy change that. Rashid Rice comes back in a couple weeks too. I think the chiefs aren't as lost as we thought they might be. But the Jags. The Jags is 3 and 1. Yeah, but like, really? You are your record. You are your record. But we have the Chiefs, we have the Bengals. They need to trade for a quarterback. They need something. And the reason they need to trade for a quarterback is because they can win that division. Yeah.

The best team in the division is one and three, Baltimore. Yeah, and they're reeling right now. Big time. Injuries. Especially now that Lamar isn't not going to play for a couple weeks. Yeah. So the Bengals could actually win that division if they had a decent quarterback. So that would be nice to see them for us.

Like, I'm glad everybody else is losing in that division. I mean, Pittsburgh's not losing losing, losing, but I don't think they're that good. They're not. And Cleveland definitely isn't good, right? So that's that whole division. Yeah. But we have the Chiefs and the Bengals. that hurts.

We have the Bucks. Nice. We have the Patriots. Not bad? Yep, tough one this week, boys. So we have those four teams we got to root for. Yep. And when they lose, we lose a lot of money.

But when they win, we win a little, but you're supposed to win most of your games. So do I need a second job or not? Do you not know where we are really? No, I haven't won. I look every day. Well, it doesn't change. I know. I just hope it does.

Like a recount? I'm like, We messed up here. You just never know. Check it on Tuesday. That stat corrections. We're minus $1,000 right now. Yeah.

I just started to go fund me for you guys. Nice. Thank you, buddy. Thanks. I'll put a link up. Yeah, so we are at minus $1,000. Which is better than what it was. Well, for a minute because both our teams didn't play.

But there's one team minus $2,200 right now. That could be us. Because they have the Ravens winning. Oh, gosh. And so they have one. They've only got one game. They have the Colts losing on the same team. Wow.

So for them to win, the Colts have to lose. They pick the Colt. And so those two have really set them back. Yeah, that's rough. Yeah, we could be that. And at least the Packers don't look as good as they did earlier in the year, Eddie. Well, that's good. Cowboys made them look a little normal.

Yeah, but who did they play the week before and they lost? But after you're betting on a team going forward, and the reason they're saying this because Eddie wanted to pick the Bengals over the Packers. That was my two cents The Packers definitely have A higher ceiling I know, I'm trying to Just trying to be optimistic here guys

Trying to help you out Eddie Thank you but Stop doing that All right That's it So root for our four teams Go The Chiefs are playing the Jags

Yep Okay we feel okay about that one Yeah Monday night We do not like the Patriots and the bills They have to play each other Don't love it No but the bills have to lose at some point Maybe it's this week

I don't know that they do I feel like just one week Pretty tough especially in Buffalo on Sunday night. That's going to be rocking. The Bucks have a tough game. Yeah, who do they... I just looked at all four of them and it was like,

these all suck. Like it doesn't look good for us? Yeah, and then I just eliminated my mind who they actually were playing. Seahawks in Seattle. Yeah, that's tough. That's all the way across the country. That's a tough one. Okay, but...

Okay, they can win that one, though. Wait, it gets better, guys. Go ahead. Bangles, Alliance. Oh, my goodness. Guys, we could lose... I need a second job. We could lose.

1500 bucks this weekend. I need to call Starbucks. If we don't win a game, we will lose $1,500 or so. Eddie got to post more videos, dude. Get that payment. Yeah, I need my Instagram. More. By the only, that $30.

I got to say, that popcorn looked so good. Thank you, man. Thank you. Him and his son brought it over to my wife and I. Really? What? Well, she was pregnant. That's, okay.

So I brought her popcorn. That's fair. And they brought me popcorn with, like, just salt on it. Yeah, because you can't eat butter. You can't eat dairy, dude. Boring. And he was like, we're my M&Ms. I'm like, dude, it's milk chocolate.

You can't have that. Stay away from our popcorn. All right, we're done. Thank you guys. We'll see you next week. Anything else? Good? I don't know.

We're good. Okay. All right. Good. Oh, yeah, his Red Sox. And the Cubs. Oh, yeah, dude, your Cubs. They're playing the same exact spot.

Yeah. Why are you so down on his Cubs? It's 1-1 in both series. Yeah. Well, I mean, the Red Sox looked pretty good. Cubs look really good, game one. They did game one. Game two couldn't.

They couldn't do anything. We did the same thing. Our teams are like the same. Okay. All right. All right. All right. All right. See you guys. Theme song written by Bobby Bones. That's me. And performed by Brandon Ray. Follow Brandon on social at Brandon Ray Music. You can follow the show on Instagram at Bobby Bones Sports. Thanks to our crew. Co-host at Producer Eddie. Segment producer at Kickoff Kevin. And executive producer at Mike DeStro. But most importantly, thank you for listening.

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