The Bobby Bones Show - 25W: Eddie's Underwhelming Gift to Bobby + WWE HoF Jeff Jarrett In Studio + Revisiting Our Hot Takes

Episode Date: January 10, 2025

Eddie's Christmas gift for Bobby finally arrived, but it isn't quite what he had in mind when he purchased it. Plus, WWE HoF wrestler Jeff Jarrett is in studio to talk about his career, his favorite wrestlers as people, coordinating mid-match, and much more! And Bobby revisits everyone's hot take from the preseason and gives them a grade.  Jeff Jarrett Podcast   Download the DraftKings Sportsbook App today: https://dkng.co/bobbysports   If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/MI/NJ/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/NH), 888-789-7777/visit http://ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 1-877-770-STOP (7867) (LA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), call/text TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA).   21+ (18+ WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/LA/MI/NJ/ NY/PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. N/A in NH/OR/ON. New customers only. Valid 1 per new customer. Min. $5 deposit. Min $5 wager. $200 issued as eight (8) $25 free bets. Ends 9/19/22. See http://draftkings.com/sportsbook for details.     Follow the Show: @BobbyBonesSports   Follow the Crew: @MrBobbyBones @ProducerEddie @KickoffKevin @MikeDeestro @ReidYarberry  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Is it bright enough? Can you see it? You can see it? The middle, the eye and the ass gets a little lost. Is that like an electrical hazard? I know. It feels like my head's going to visit the same. I don't know, dude.

I got it on TikTok shop. I'm not sure. You want the Chief Seaholic thing? Awesome. So Chiefsaholic's got to rob the bank. Yeah, the banks. The chiefs, the guy that dresses a wolf. Yeah.

And he robbed all the banks and sat front road every Chiefs game. So backstory me on and the listeners on who Chiefsaholic is and then talk about that show. He's a superfan, a Chief Superfan that went to every single game. And when you talk to people that go to Chiefs games, everyone knows him. He's very sociable. He goes to every tailgate. He's got front road to every single game. Well, what happened was he was really big on Twitter and, like, social media.

All of a sudden, he goes radio silent. So everyone at the games, all his friends, his fans, everything is just like, what's happening? He tweets like 10 times a day. And there's been nothing. Well, it turns out he was robbing a bank. And he got busted. And he had robbed many, right? So it turns out that he had robbed a bunch of banks, and that's how he was funding his, you know, his lifestyle.

So when they actually, because again, I knew the broad strokes. So they didn't know he had robbed many until they wondered why he wasn't responsive this one time. They found he robbed one bank. And from that one bank, if I'm right, didn't they like place the banks at all? away games, like he would, like, rob them as he was going to the away games? Every away game that's on the way, he would rob a bank. That's dedication. He was even in Nashville. He robbed a bank here.

Really? Yeah. So where's he now? Well, you don't want to say, okay, don't spoil it. I don't want to say. Because I'm going to watch it, so don't spoil it. And the reason I don't want to say is because I had forgotten how this whole thing ended. I probably knew at some point by reading the news, but I'd forgotten, and it helped me enjoy the

documentary a lot better. I will watch it then. It's on Prime? It's on Prime. It's called Chiefs aholic. Chiefs a Hollick. But, dude, what's amazing about this documentary is the footage. So the documentary starts when he gets out of jail.

So he gets arrested, and whoever made this documentary was so smart to move so quickly on it that the first footage of him is when he walks out of jail when he's out on bail. And the documentary starts, and they have footage of everything. Him watching the Super Bowl from a hotel room with an ankle bracelet on, all of it. I'm so in. I want to leave right now and not even do this. Go watch that. Because I knew, I was so interested in the story.

I didn't know there was a documentary on it already. Dude, you guys would love it. Would you hang out with the guy? No. Outside the whole bake robin thing. And I wouldn't either because I've seen stuff about him. He's annoying as crap. And he gets on like the message boards and fight with like other hardcore fans.

I don't know if this is in the documentary. But he would like get into it with like the guy from the Jets. What's his name? Fireman Ed. Like all the, all the teams like have one of those super fans. Right. And there was like this rivalry between them and. There would be rivalries between the teams and like a couple of the super fans that were trying to be like the main super fan.

I'm in. Chiefsaholic. What do you give it? What do you're doing? Chiefsaholic, man. I give a 4.5 wolf costume. Salad, man. Woof. Wolf.

Wolf. Wolf? Yeah, it's a wolf, right? He's a wolf. Yeah. I don't know what Kevin's correcting me. I hear wolf. And then you said wolf.

Like a dog? Wolf. Wolf. No, wolf. I don't know, dude. I'll know to say wolf, okay? Love it. I want to start with that. I want to go to this. Listen, I think Cole Cogan's a bad person, and this is not based on his political beliefs.

Because I don't think anybody's a bad person based on their political beliefs, even if I disagree with him. I think Cole Cogan's a bad person based on his life. He's on a lot of shady things, the whole N-word. He just, the other wrestlers. And by the way, Jeff Jared's coming up. And I think Cole Coen's a bad person. And I have thought that for a while. this story that I saw on TikTok about him, I want to play it. It's one minute long. The person who put the video up is Shady underscore Spidey.

Here we go. Hit it. Imagine you meeting your childhood hero and you give him a $4,000 gift and he turns around and signs it and then puts it up for auction for $2,000 more than what it's worth. Well, you don't have to imagine it because that's what happened to this guy who is a very reputable person in the Facebook wrestling belts collecting group.

And for him to post it, that means it must be true. And if you notice here, something that just struck a chord with me is someone who lives paycheck to paycheck gives a gift word. 4,000 to Hulk Hogan. The Hulkster then signs it and lists up herself for 6,000. Oh my God. That's so scummy. That's so scummy.

That's just, that's fucking so many ways. that's in so many ways. Hulk Hogan is, he's doing very well for himself. I can tell you, I've seen his, his shop not far from where I live. He's doing, he's doing just fine. For him to put this piece of memorabilia up that somebody gave to them, it's wrong. I was blown away, except I really wasn't that blown away based on other things that I've even heard that I won't mention here on the air. I remember also Hulk Hogan had sex with his friend's wife?

Yeah, that's funny. Really? On camera. Wasn't there as a tape, right? Love sponge? Yeah, Bobby Loves sponge, yeah. Oh. So, here's the thing.

You got a super fan that probably saved up a lot to go meet his hero and give him a gift. And then Holkogen, let's say, he just sold it. He just immediately. Even if he wants to hold it for a couple of years. Right. Even that's better. Yeah, yeah. You sell it.

Let's like Eddie gave me this great hat. If I see that on eBay, I'll be so pissed. Maybe in two years, not so much. Right. One time when I put a book. I think in my second book. No, no, we're not talking about this. We're not talking about this.

Uh-oh. And it wasn't like this grand gesture, but I was like, I'll give it all my friend's books. I throw a little note how important they were to me in the process and in general. And then somebody sends me a picture of the book that I gave Eddie at a thrift store. Now, she called in on the radio show. But I got the picture, though. Oh, yeah. Thrift store?

Yeah, so it's like Eddie, dude, you're my best friend. And she found it at like a thrift store. And it was like, I think this was a book that you must have given Eddie. Yeah, there's a personal note I got a whole coaching. It was a true story and the first thing I did was text my wife

like did you get rid of my book and she said, I don't know what you're talking about and I told Bones I promised I did not sell that book I didn't do anything with it but it turns out my wife did grab a bunch of books

and took it to like Goodwill or whatever And I guess mine was just in a bunch of random books I was gonna say heartfelt note I have a picture of it Eddie dude dude you blah blah

Yeah Somebody found it at the dollar tree It's terrible. Did you guys have abilities Unlimited where you grew up? No. No.

What's that? Yeah, I don't know that. It was the version of Half Press Books? No. No. Goodwill. Goodwill.

Yeah. Okay. We had that instead of Goodwill. And there's probably Goodwill in Little Rock, but we had Abilities Unlimited. And what it was, there were a lot of the kids that special needs work there. So that's why it was Abilities Unlimited, but that was where you donated. And so I was going to say, found my book at Abilities Unlimited, but goodwill was the real thing to say. Yeah, it's like none of us would have got it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Read, maybe. Yeah. No, I think I've ever seen it. You had that in Arkansas? I've never seen one. And you're from like 45 minutes from me. I know.

Oh, let's go to story number three. Yeah, because Eddie had that. Eddie led with Chiefsaholic. I wanted to do Hulk Hogan. Read, we don't know the story. And Reed goes, hey, guys, I got a good story to tell. Yeah. It's a very unfortunate story, actually.

It happened just about an hour ago before we were filming. What? Yeah. Yeah. Is this for on air? Are you going to tell us and it was going to be sad? No, I told Kevin. Kevin was like, dude, you need to share that.

Okay, go ahead. So I was like, okay, I don't really want to share it, but all right, whatever. So we're getting ready to record and I'm like, man, I need to go to the bathroom. So I go to the bathroom. There's a man in front of me that goes right in front of me into the bathroom. We're at the IHart building, so they're nice bathrooms. We go in, man number one goes in one stall, I go in the other, sit down, start to do my business. I can see he's right next to me.

It's dead silent. He's not making any noise. He clearly hears me, you know, do my business. He knows I went. And so I'm like, all right, I'm going to finish up. Do a little courtesy flush, you know, for everybody in there. Turn around and press the button and it's just clank, clink, clink. I was like, oh, no.

And I look and there's wires coming out. There's a bag of tools that I clearly did not see at all. Oh, my God. Literally. Oh, my God. You took a dump in a toilet that I was working on. And so this dude next to me, this dude next to me clearly knows I just had, you know, a private time in there. Where are the tools?

The tools are like kind of back behind the toilet. But like, I'm just, I'm, I'm lasered in. I go in there, I turn around. I'm like, I'm going to let this happen. I'm not thinking. So I hear that clank and I'm like, oh my God, what do I do? This guy knows I just went to the bathroom. Do I get up and clearly leave without flushing?

He knows that. or do I wait for him to get up, finish his business, and he's sitting there. And I don't even, I think this dude's just playing on his phone. I don't know what he's doing, but five minutes goes by, and I'm like, okay, I just got to, I just got to make a run for it because, like, if I wait any longer, like, maintenance dude is going to come back and get his tools. He'd be pissed. And so, you know, I did the good thing and, you know, covered everything up with toilet paper.

You know, the best. On the top? Yeah, the best I could do. In the toilet. In the toilet. You put dirt over it, but it was toilet paper. Got it. Yeah. I got up and just awkwardly walked out, even though I know that guy was like, man, that dude didn't flush. That's weird.

And wash my hands. And then Casey. Yeah, so you shared the story in the green room. And then I had to go take a leak at some point. So I'm like, all right, I'll go, like, scope out the situation. So then I went to the urinal and, you know, everything smelled okay in there. But I was leaking. And then all of a sudden I hear someone behind me just whistling.

And it was the handyman. And it goes into the bathroom that read just. Annialliated. For the first time? He must have... Definitely the first time. He must have got tools or something. It was like super casual.

He was just going in there. You just... God. I'm like sitting there at the urinal. And I just hear it's like... You heard him see, acknowledge and get pissed. Oh, I felt so bad. What do I do in that instant?

I would have thought somebody saw it and did it anyway. That's not what happened. Yeah. I think that's what he thought. Yeah. I would have thought that. Yeah. Like they saw the tools and they still took a dump in here.

I feel so bad. I felt so bad. It was just like one of those deep breaths where you're just like, man, I just, God, dang it. Yeah. And then there's a layer to it where Kate, I was coming in as Casey. I didn't know anything that happened before. I was trying to keep it cool.

And Casey came out and I went in and I'm at the urinal and I hear a door slam. And I'm like, dang, somebody's really got to go or something. So Reed starts telling me the story. I was like, were you in there too? And that guy slammed him door. He's like, I think it was a maintenance guy pissed off. Oh my. And rightfully so.

Yeah. You didn't do anything with any. malicious intent. He desecrated the terrible toilet. But I would have been so annoyed to go there. There are tools there, the toilet's taken apart, and I'll listen to him. I know, dude. Parts sunk. And, like, Reed's, like, the nicest,

kindest guy of all of us. Like, he would never do that. So bad, dude. Just a mountain of toilet. It's all right. Eddie, how do you feel about Zeeke going to the Chargers? Huh? Zique, go to the Chargers? I mean, good luck. I mean, good luck. What are they going to do with him? Is he going to play?

Just in case. Okay. Basically. Yeah. Yeah, because is it Dobbins or Edwards? One of them's hurt. I think Dobbins got banged up. Dobbins, yeah. That's a backup thing. They said, you know, I think Jerry Jones said that we're going to give him a chance to maybe join a team that can play in the playoffs or something like that so they let him go.

Which I thought was a lie. I'm like, okay, yeah, the Eagles are going to pick him up. Okay. But yeah, he's going to, hey, he's going to the playoffs. Way to go, Zeeke. You did it, dude. But I don't know. I mean, what's he going to do?

I'm not worried about it. Well, you shouldn't be worried. I wonder how it made you feel, though. But I guess the fact that he already left once for a team doesn't make it so weird. Had he been a cowboy forever? Yeah. And then he goes and does this. It's weird to see him in another uniform.

Like Emmett Smith as an Arizona Cardinal is still odd. Hakeem Olajuwon as a Toronto Raptor is still odd. But Zeke did leave. But it is kind of cool that you can just go and jump on a playoff team. Yeah. For him. That's pretty cool. It's like Cowboys over.

We suck, but hop on this team. What's his name? Teddy Bridgewater just did that for the Lions. He's just going to get a ring. And he wasn't even playing. He coached high school, won a state championship, first year coaching the high school team, and then went back and is now the backup in Detroit.

Wait, Bridgewater got out of the league for a little bit? He coached to high school football team. He was like technically retired. He won the state championship in Florida. I did not know that. That's crazy. Wait, he's back with the line? Yeah.

Yeah, he signed on the head. I have not seen that. Yeah. What's the heck? A couple weeks ago or something like that. That's the life. Never given up. They say he's one of the smartest players in the NFL.

and obviously he's not starting and they think that he's smart enough to win in emergency situations he could come in to be a good backup a dependable backup right? Yeah. But you should watch some of the videos that I'm talking about his high school football team and how he tough loved them.

It's tough love. Because he grew up, I think, in a similar area and that's why he was there coaching and he was like, when we got in trouble and he talked about how he would grab the fate. You have to watch the clip, but he went hard on those kids. And they want, he goes, because these kids are from a place where it's hard all the time. Because it's not like he's

coaching at a rich school. And he's like, they, some of them don't have moms. Some of them, they don't even know their dads. And the only way you can get to them is hard. And he goes, and I have to go hard because they had to go hard on me. And at first, when they just show some of the clips of him going at some of the kids, you're like, dang. Remember the Trent Dillford thing? Yeah. That's at a rich school. Yeah, that was, you're in Nashville. Yeah. And Dillford went and it was like, dang, that's a hard. hardcore dude but he sets it up and he tells it why he goes a lot of these kids don't have parents and the only

way to get to them is this and he goes when I go circle up and they circle up they know it's about to be real bad because he just I mean gets in their A one state championship where was this like where Florida somewhere in Florida yeah yeah I wish I was I'm not prepared but I did keep up with it the whole year that's cool I did not know that

pretty cool and now he's backing up the lines good story Pittsburgh Steelers I don't know do we care that they have had a winning record every year for 100 years? Mm-mm. Okay. It's pretty cool. Go ahead.

I mean, it's cool. They've always been relevant, which is crazy. Right, with Tomlin, too. He's never had a losing record. But I think a lot of Pittsburgh fans are kind of tired of him, though. That's like the vibe that I get. It's easy to be tired of somebody until you get somebody that's worse. Right.

And then you miss whenever you had something good. Yeah, I take Mike Tomlin in a heartbeat. Me too. And Tomlin did win a Super Bowl? Yeah, 30 years ago. But he did win a Super Bowl. Super Bowl. On the show that I do for NFL now, I was talking to Kurt Warner about this specifically and I said, hey man, are the Steelers in like purgatory because they never lose enough to have a top

pick? They never are able to win enough to win a championship. It's always, they have a good coach, they win 10 games, 9 10 games. It's like a purgatory type place because they don't have a top three pick. They're never able to get one of those quarterbacks. And he had a pretty good diplomatic answer. And he was like, you know, there are a few quarterbacks. There are, you know, Lamar Jackson drafted 31st. Fewer and far between, but it's like they have to get the quarterback situation, right? And they haven't. And I'm a big believer of, and not in the Pittsburgh situation only. But if things are mid to slightly below mid for a long time, sometimes you have to burn it all down.

Because then the NBA especially, you don't want to be a 500 team. You either want to be terrible or you want to be awesome and have a chance of the title. Otherwise, you're just going to stay mid. Because you're drafting after nine in the first round. Right, everyone's a project at that point. It doesn't have to league go to the playoffs anyway in the NBA. But it doesn't matter if you don't win, it doesn't matter. Yeah, yeah.

Like, if you don't have a shot at it, like be terrible. Be Houston, be Detroit. And look at Houston now, NBA. Celtics got Tatum and Jalen Brown top three because of that. Yeah. Hit rock bottom. I think the Steelers will be crazy to move. Tomlin's awesome. And they're trying. Here's the thing. If they weren't trying in the quarterback

spot, I would go, maybe it is time to move on. But they are trying because look, they went and got Russ, had to pay no money for, like a million bucks. It's it. Denver's eating that money. Yeah. They went to got Justin Fields. Yeah. Who's had to play. And that's played pretty well at times, because Russ is not playing that well right now. Yeah, I mean, I wonder if they're going to use Justin Fields in this game coming up. Maybe a couple packages, but I don't know. Package. Yeah. I still think you don't pull Russ now because it's the playoffs and he's won a Super Bowl too. But I feel with my team, we have hit our ceiling. Cowboys?

Arkansas. Got it. Like we're going to be mid, just slightly below mid, until something drastic happens. And that sucks. And I like the coach. I like Sam Pittman as a person a lot. I think he's a really good offensive line coach. He's been a fine head coach.

But the problem is in the SEC at Arkansas, that's two difficult things. during the SEC the biggest strongest conference ever. So if you don't have something extremely dynamic, you're already not even with the big schools. You're not even to start with the... And we can list them all, the LSUs, the Georgia's, the Alabama's, the... I mean, look at a team like Ole Miss, who now is winning.

That's who we're the same with. And they went dynamic with Lane Kiffin who's able to dynamically get NIL money because people believe in him. So you need a, even if the splash misses hard, I'm much happier losing, trying really hard, and losing bad, then being pretty good without a real chance.

I feel like now we don't have a real chance at Arkansas to win 10 games. We're going to win five, six games. We won six games this year. Playoff game, or the bowl game, does it count because everybody's playing half a team. But I think Pittsburgh's not that. I think Pittsburgh, if they get the quarterback situation right,

I think they're really good again. It's just the hardest thing to do and I think if they had a top pick that's great but they're so well coached they have great personnel just about everywhere else. Pickens is nuts. Yeah, he, yeah.

I think if Pickens had a quarterback though that could slap some of that nuts out of them would be different. Yeah, right. I mean, Randy Moss was nuts until they play with Tom Brady. Yep. And then you have to respect Tom Brady.

You don't, you know, Antonio Brown was nuts until he left the Patriots. Oh man, that was crazy. Yeah. So, Ghost dealers Keep Tomlin But don't go stealers

I hope you lose And they're probably gonna lose Are they a 10 point Yeah 9 and a half Last time I saw I feel like it's gonna be closer Than that

Yeah Just because of those two teams Yeah Me too those two teams Do you play Right I still think they lose But yeah

And they're kind of Lamar's nemesis Like I think he's Last of 8 Or something like that With them The first good game You played

Was like that last one A few weeks ago It is the Quote And professional sports Rivalries are weird The fans can hate Each other

But that is a rival Yeah It is it's hardball and Tom when they've been doing it now for like almost 15 years it seems like right? While, yeah. 2000s, yeah. I mean, the flack over a Lewis days.

When you hear this because we're doing this Thursday afternoon the Notre Dame Penn State game happened already so it's not like we're going to talk about that but congrats to Notre Dame for winning. Played great. How about Penn State? They won one of the big ones.

That's cool. Good for them. Finally. We're not going to edit either one of these out either. We could. We're not going to. We can't be wrong. Yeah, we're just, what a game.

Yeah, that was awesome. Crazy. I can't believe it was a blowout. Oh, man. Who saw that coming? Who saw that coming? Wow, wow, wow. Okay, cool.

Covered on that one. Yeah, we're good. And then tonight, Ohio State of Texas, these are the two teams I hate the most of the four. So you won't watch. No, I hope Ohio State goes BTA on them. Yeah. Like, and I hope it's a belt that has like shards of glass on it.

Oh, my goodness. And they take that BTA. They go, right, belt it out. And they just make Texas. I didn't know what BTA meant. No, I know. You know what it means now. Belt to a word.

Yeah, I do. Mike. How you feeling, Texas fan? Every time somebody says that, now I just want us to win more. Like, everybody's been saying that we're going to get rolled. And now I just believe that we have a chance just because everybody's saying we have no chance. Let's go. Arizona State, you got pretty lucky playing them.

Let's be honest. Not a great team. Lucky. You played Scataboo. Not a great team. Scataboo. We almost beat you, dude. We fell apart a little bit, but we had what it took to one.

Ewers came through. Not a great team, though. You shouldn't even been close. Like, you should have, when they did, look at the five star and four stars on each team, it was not even a comparison of the two teams. Week one, it's been so long with the playoffs. I know, isn't it? No.

Texas played. Mike, you Texas play week one? Clemson. Clemson. Not a good team. Not a good team. Not a good team. You're about to play a good team. Really good.

And do you know what? I guess I kind of went out of way because I hate Ohio State too, but I just hate Texas more. To both lose, man. I tried that. It didn't work. I tried that at Texas Clemson. Yeah, it doesn't work. I tried that.

It didn't work. So, Ohio State's only a six-point favorite. I thought it would be a little more than that, but I guess because Texas actually has really talented players. And Sark is a great offense of mind. Yeah. And if Sark were coaching anywhere else, I'd be like, I like Sark. But he wears the burn orange? He's running the Iraqi army.

So it doesn't matter who you are. They got the dude But so did Oregon Ohio State's got the dude dude So they played so well two games in a row It's like come on there's no way Three games in a row right Monster trucks demolishing the little cars that are sitting there

In the speedway Against two really good teams That Oregon game was over I mean it was like Game on game It's the Homer Simpson Giff Mike With the

Where he walks in It takes his hat It takes his hat off Turns around grabs it It puts it back on walks out That was Oregon and that was Oregon in that game. As far as the

NFL games, and we can do this and set our parlay real quick. And then we have Jeff Jarrett, which was awesome for me. I'm a massive wrestling fan. And Jeff Jarrett, he pro wrestling Hall of Famer. Like, still doing it.

Okay, let's do the parlay here. We have to a parlay. Is there? Oh, man. We got it. Sounds so sad. Have you been thinking about it? We got it.

I just am I like to go I believe I'm going to win this game I'm way down though Are you warming up though No no it's still cold It's freezing It's still in the freezer

Yeah like I'm excited to watch the games I'm not bet because it's been so bad for me And I don't I just don't want our listeners think Oh he always says when he went no no I'm way I'm losing at a terrible pace Um okay Pick one of the game Kevin you can go

What stands out I mean Let's just walk the lines. Chargers minus three at the Texans. Steelers at the Ravens, Ravens favorite, minus nine and a half. Broncos at Bill's eight and a half point favorite. Packers at the Eagles, Eagles four and a half point favorite. Commanders at Bucks, bucks minus three. So every home team is favored except the Texans.

The Texans are at home and they're the dog. Take a stab. Come on, Kevin. Let me go the Steelers. Mike, if we do four, will they put it up on the app? see. Okay. So you're going to go Steelers plus nine and a half? Plus nine and a half, yeah. Stupid question. Can I take the Ravens and then cancel that one out

and then you pick two? Can you do the opposite of the same parlay? I've never done that. You would lose the month. You'd lose the what's it called? In the parlay, you would lose because if you miss any you're right. You're right. You're right. That's dumb. Yeah, so he, but he is taking, so you cannot take that game. Eddie. So he's got Steelers plus nine and a half. Yep.

And we'll try to get this on draft kings. Eddie, go ahead. I think the bills are going to roll. I think the bills will have no problem taken on Denver, and they are favored by eight and a half. Let's do it. Bills, eight and a half. Bills plus eight and a half?

Minus eight and a half. I'm sorry, bills minus eight and a half. Yeah, good. I'm going to just go Bucks Money Line. It's the smallest spread. It's at home. A coin flip. That one wins by a field goal, you know, like a last minute kick.

So I go Bucks Money Line. That's three. We need four, Mike? Yeah, I'll do four. Okay. Reed, do you? Read? Yeah, man. How about Eagles minus four and a half? Yeah. How about it? Or just Moneyline. What do you think? Two, I'd say anything three, over three, do a spread.

Okay. Three is close enough to feel like money on you're not going to lose too much on the odds. All right, Eagles minus four and a half. You believe in the Eagles? I believe in them, baby. Cuckoo. That's what they sound like. Give me kind of. So we have. And would you. text this Kevin to Eddie and I or whatever we do

just so I know instead of it like being what do we bid? Steelers plus nine and a half bills minus eight and a half Eagles minus four and a half Buck's Money Line Oh yeah

Sounds pretty good What do you think? I was going to say the Rams actually Because I think the Vikings are a slight favorite I would just think the range to happen That's until Monday Oh it's a Monday Yeah got it got it got it got it

So that was my choice. I hate doing a parlay and you have to wait like a day. You didn't realize it when you bet it. Yep. No, you know what I did one time? I picked one for the next week. Oh, because you like scrolled down and didn't realize. Yeah, that sucks too.

I think I've done that too. Yeah, I've done that. Not in a parlay, just a straight bet. I'm like, oh, God. I've got to wait a whole week. If you want to take the 25 whistles parlay, you can check out Draft King's sportsbook. Do it. We do it.

We love it. Hopefully we're up on the app. If not, I don't know. Do you want to run with us? They want to run with us. I'm going to be the only one that misses. I'm so cold. No, dude, I'm cold too.

I'm cold too, guys. Honestly. Since we're confessing here. So everyone take the opposite of what we're saying. But you know what that means too? That means that everyone's cold. Like, us three can't be the only ones that are cold. I bet it's just a cold season right now for just people playing games.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slical Life 12 and TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. I'm a big wrestling fan. I will say not so much today. I don't watch it every week now. Some clips will come up. I can't act like I'm a big Roman Raines fan.

I know who he is. That new guy? no not new but he's like the biggest now okay like Cody Rhodes like absolutely if I saw him I'd be like to Cody Rhodes but I'm a massive wrestling fan like over the course of my life and Jeff Jarrett dude he's been around in so many like just decades and he's been champion here in WCW and AEW and so he came in here he is he's in the pro wrestling hall of fame he's WVE Hall of Fame he Jeff Jared he recently announced he signed his final contract gonna be hanging it up in the near few future. He has a big goal in mind for this year. And we talk about that. He gave us some great

insight. We talk Hulk Hogan, which you could tell. I won't put words at his mouth, but you could tell he felt very, very similar to how I feel. And I wasn't trying to lure him into anything. You could clickbait. But you could definitely tell that maybe Hulk wasn't his favorite guy either. Eddie, what did you think? Of the interview? Just in general, yeah, thoughts before we play this. I mean, I thought that you truly enjoyed every minute of this interview. It's awesome for me, yeah. You would just, you loved asking questions when he would talk, you would just light up and you'd have another question right after it. So it's really cool to see you get lit up by like an interview. Weird way to say it, but yeah.

You know what I mean? Weird way to say it, but I like it. A compliment? Yes. Yeah, dude, yes. Here he is. Jeff Jarrett. Great to see you again, man.

I, I want, first of all you on Instagram, so I feel like I still like talk, even though it's a weird part of life where you see someone. But also like I see all your, like your A-A-W stuff. because I'm a big wrestling fan. Get out of here. Well, you are from Arkansas. And you're not even kidding, because that's what we had. Like, we would drive to Memphis as a young kid and go to the pyramid, you know, and do all the Mid-South stuff. Like, I caught the very back end of the Bonnerics.

So I should know this. We're in Arkansas. So it's near, it's a 600 people, small town. But it's near... I'm wrestling in 400, like Paragull, Black Oak. All schools we played in sports. Yeah. So I'm from a town called Mountain Pine.

We would never get a wrestling. But Hot Springs. was big enough that occasionally So you're that toward Hot Springs? Yes. Got it, okay. Well, you really are at Hillbubborn.

Dude, we are Hillbilly. For sure. For sure? And so, yeah, so my TikTok is all like 90s of 2000s wrestling. Like that's my algorithm that I'm on

because I watch so much of it. Oh, boy. That I've followed your entire arc, you know, of... Which arc? Exactly, that's what I'm saying. But there are like multiple versions. I'm just, let me start with now

because I have friends that played professional sports, one who played NFL for a long time, and I was like, man, after every game, does it hurt? And as a professional wrestler, after every match, do you just know it's going to hurt for a couple days? You know, Bobby, that is really a loaded question because this may sound crazy at 57 years of age.

I wish I could wrestle more because the wrestling like every three weeks or once a month, I know for the next 48, 72 hours, and I'm all into the recovery and the cryo and the saunos and all that kind of stuff. But there's just something about the lactic acid build up and it's rough. I mean, I hate to admit it, but it is really rough after a one-off. Because I feel like I work out hard, but I do it hard three times a week. And even my lactic acid, I'm older.

It's old. And so I can't imagine going as hard as you're going, but also once every three weeks. That's like doing bench press heavy once every three. You'd be so freaking sore, but doing what you're doing with your full body. I would imagine you're so sore or you've taken so many bumps that it just kills your neck and back. Well, just the soreness. But I, it's funny since the last time we saw each other, man, my life is, I guess you just sprinkle some of that Bobby Bones gold dust on me. It's changed in so many ways.

But, you know, during the pandemic, we were all shut in and all that. and I won't say the word, but I got really sick, and I was down flat on my back for about two weeks. And when I was laying there, I said, you know what, I'm going to get in the best possible shape I can when I get out of this bed. And I really put my mind on it. So I have trained harder, worked harder, not just with weights, cardio. Flexibility. Has that become more important to you? Because for me it has.

I do you. I have my streak still going, but I do yoga every morning for the last seven years, or six years, however it is. wrong. Why? What have you found about the flexibility part of it? I live by this, my chiropractor, he's really a applied cardiologist. He looked at me one day when I was on the table and he said, if you want to live a long life, live a long life. And he just meant me, he said, man, you've got to increase your flexibility. And there's a lot that goes with that. But I have found that I am stronger, faster, feel better. Not when you wrestle, you're still going to have that soreness, but I do the stretching and the yoga and the breathing and everything that goes with it.

I do feel a noticeable bit better. I have better energy. You know, another thing during the pandemic, I got on this care and said, you got to get out of this house. But I walked every afternoon for like 90 minutes before the sun would go down. And I kind of found just the movement. It just really has helped me not just physically. I think mentally and emotionally as well.

just a little quiet time with God, if you will. I think wrestling fans are great historians. I'm a mid-restling historian, but I think that there's a respect to the wrestlers that have lived many lives for our enjoyment. And you're one of those guys. Do you feel when you go in and your pop happens? Or maybe it's not, it's reverse.

Do you feel the wrestling fan honoring you and other wrestlers that have been around for 20, 30 years in a way that's never happened before? So I'm not only a wrestling junkie, but I just kind of like data. And when you look at, I'm not looking at you two or the stones, or I'll call them all the legacy acts and just they keep on and they keep on and they're selling the tickets on that. And then when I go out to your point and I hear

the response, a lot of times we'll call it that nostalgia pop, because there is so much going on in this world today, and our roster is almost 200 deep. But when you kind of look at a graph in the amount of times and the impressions,

if you will, that I've been on TV or you know, just been around, people know me. They like me or they don't like me. But yes, there is a response And last summer I did about a 10-minute sit-down interview that we aired on YouTube. And I've had more people come up because it was a historical piece, but also I touched on Owen Hart and really got into that.

And we have a tournament at AEW called the Owen Invitational. But that was something that brought the fans that had never heard of Jeff Jared or Owen Hart or whatever, it just kind of brought them up. Like, oh, this guy's been around a while. So yes. The short answer to your question, I told you how to build a watch as opposed to, to what time it was, but yes. I feel like even the young wrestlers

are history. You almost have to be knowledgeable in the history of wrestling. It's almost like country music. If you're a young country music artist, you almost don't get the past unless you can prove, like you can't get across this part of the bridge unless you prove that you're an actual fan and that you've spent your life valuing it.

And I feel like that with the young wrestlers, even towards some of those guys, like yourself in the 90s, 2000s. Like, that has to happen. You know, Bobby, what I have observed is that the guys that really don't know the history of wrestling, they're not around, you know, in three months, six months, and nine months. They weed themselves out because at end of the day, what we do is not easy. And they're like, you know, I don't really like this stuff. And they excuse them way out of the business one way or another. Can I ask one,

Owen Hart question? Oh, far away. We were watching that pay-per-view. Can't City, right? did you at the time were you surprised they continued the show not at the time um i don't know if we talked about this last time but that was the one thing when i went into recovery that i never processed at all at the time it was i hate to say it but it was work and i've talked to his widow martha and extensive conversations all that but it was just we were in a place that he his match was on before me. You know, the backstage stage manager came and said, hey, Owen's going to the ring.

You're up next. So I had in my mind about 18, 15, 18 minutes. And like three minutes later, they came, said, you're on now. And I went, did a promo, and all that stuff was going around. They wheeled his body right beside me. I went to the ring, did that, came back. The cop was there. I said, I want to go to the hospital right now.

But it was, as I hate to say this, but it was the reality. And it called up to me. it was unfortunately in my mind another day at work with a tragic accident the blood in the ring and afterward it's easy to look at it because I think I would have felt the same as you as a performer and there were still a lot of questions

and until Jim Ross came on later and was like but again you guys were there on the ground I definitely don't want to make this a hard thing but I've been thinking about this I think I would have been the same might have been like we go until we're told not to go and then we figure it out after it's over. No doubt. I got in the ring.

To this day, I haven't watched that back, that matched back for a number of reasons. But I felt the top rope very, very loose. And I went over in the corner where his body had fallen. And there was a – and I can talk about it now. For years, I wouldn't talk about it. But there was a dip in the ring. There was no blood. And it was where his body had fallen.

And I just had a sense on, okay. in my gut. Now, I didn't process it and intellectually think it through, but in my gut, I was like, okay, this is bad. Did I invent the blood in the ring up in my head? There was a little bit on the corner. Okay. Yeah, there was some, but it wasn't...

In the ring where you're actually wrestling. Okay, got it. Yeah. His head hit the top rope, severed his aorta. So... Do you know the story, Eddie? He fell from the top. Not really, no.

He was on a wire, and he came down. Was he the blue meanie? Or was he just the only heart? Blue Blazer. Blue Blazer. Yeah. So, and it ended up being like the contraption, from what that I heard, the contraption's fault. He was repel, supposed to repel in the ring, 82 feet in the air,

but repel into the ring, let go of his harness and then wrestle. He was up top and the, however it released, and he fell 82 feet to his death. Wow. In the middle of show. Like, did you know that, Kevin? No. Yeah. Do you watch that live on?

They didn't show. So we're watching the pay-per-view. And they didn't show it because the camera, the camera was just away and they came back. He was just hanging up there ready to go on cue to be lowered. So they were doing other things like that. So no, they didn't show. You didn't see it happen. You just saw afterward.

And they kept going and even watching it. But again, my mind, I've seen so many stories of what was happening at the time that I think even my memory has been affected by all the docues. But now you see like people cut in promos live crying, not knowing. because they, but they know what had happened. Anyway, I don't want to stand that, but I appreciate you answering that. Yeah, thanks. Can I give you a little ironic piece to that? Please, please do.

So, back in those days, it was WWF and WCW. That was the May pay-per-view of WWF. The May WCW paper view, because I left up at WF and went to WCW. I was on that pay-per-view in a triple cage, and I had to climb 62 feet up the following year, exact same building. The ironic part of all that is it took me a long time, Bobby. I bet. Just because, one, even if it's just your friend or your coworker, but two, like you were on right after.

Yeah. Right after. Life. Why? Why are you still going? Because you're still good, too. Like, why are you quitting? I have, like, all these questions.

Like, you shouldn't be as good. Like, you still got it. It's crazy. Like, okay, why are you still going? But also, why are you quitting? Well, let's just say this. I made the announcement. Every year, literally this is my 37th year, and I did this.

I can't say I did it the first seven or eight years. But my dad and me had a conversation when you're in. And out of that conversation, I said, okay, every December I'm going to reevaluate what it's going to look like next year. Kind of reflect how am I going to get better and what I'm going to do moving forward. And I've done that every year. Years ago, I started a wrestling promotion called T&A. and one of the main things about that, Bobby, was, is that I wanted to step out of the ring.

You know, my grandmother said, you can wrestle, but don't wrestle, become a wrestler. Basically, keep your business cap on. And then just kind of all this has transpired and got myself in shape, had no idea what I'd be doing here today. Like AW stuff?

Yeah, I mean, we did a thing with Rick Flair and Rick Flair's last match and went through all that, and that led to another thing. So, Bobby, only by the grace of God, am I still going wrestling, but I love it. I will say that I have been really, really, really lucky that I don't feel I've ever worked a day in my life in a lot of ways. Sure, it's a grind, there's not a travel, but I absolutely love professional wrestling. Everything about it.

I'm one of five siblings. The other four had zero interest in it. I got bit by the bug about two miles from here. is where I grew up down by Overton High School. And I just love professional wrestling everything about it. How much a part of your creative are you now? Very little. Very little.

And that is, that's been an adjustment, good and bad, because I don't have the responsibility. It is a full-time, non-stop juggling act. But I have little to know real input. I can, little tweaks here and there, but for the most part, it's not my ball of wax. Who in your career was good enough that you could if you had to just call a match the entire time in the ring? Like you got to do no. Oh. Who was that good where you felt, or you had the chemistry with them?

Shoot, I could go down a list. You know, Jerry Lawler, we wrestled many 60-minute broadways, and he wouldn't talk to me before we went out there, which was kind of amazing to me. Sean Michaels, Kurt Angle, there's several guys that, it's just when you have the ability to kind of have a vision where you want to go and you know your opponent's strengths and weaknesses and play to the strengths and diminish the weaknesses, there's several guys that you could do that with. Any of the guys ever protect you and you protect them because you knew somebody was hurt during the match and you communicated it and it's like on my right shoulder. So then you continued to have the match, but you just made sure to stay on the left. left shoulder, et cetera. You kind of always do that. That goes without saying, yeah, when you said protect, I can remember breaking into the business, a wrestler came in who had a hair transplant.

You had to protect that. Don't touch my hair. Don't touch my hair. But no, that goes without saying it's a grind, so you have to be aware of the health of your opponent. A couple of the bigger guys in my life that apparently worked pretty stiff. And I imagine if someone works stiff, you probably have to stiff back so you don't get hurt. Is that how that would work? Like Goldberg apparently was stiff because he was, like, he didn't have to come up. He was just, they didn't know how to wrestle. Yeah. And they said that a lot about Ultimate Warrior. And I never wrestled either one of them, so I don't know how stiff they are or how when you would wrestle somebody that was stiff, how would you do the dance? So, this may be

be getting to get in the weeds get is getting the weeds i think there's a difference between between stiff and reckless stiff you just work snug you lay it in i'm a huge fan of that we understand what we signed up for so get in there and don't um don't make everything so light so stiff is one thing a guy who's reckless the guy that might not have a skill set might not have two left feet if you will you've got to be completely well aware of what's going on. And you just can't put yourself in a position to be hurt. You know, I've had several old-timers guys that would come up to me and said, yeah, I know why you're around.

You wouldn't do A, B, and C, whatever the dumb crap is. And I think there is some validity to that. That you have to be really aware that don't give yourself, don't give your body to a guy that might not be me. Being spirited, but certainly doesn't know how to take care of you. And then, hey, man, you're not eating the next week. You're not earning a paycheck. So that's incumbent upon me.

What about moves like the DDT or a pile driver that is heavy neck if gone wrong? Are there specific guys that you were like, I trust them fully if they're going to pile drive or DDT me? And you can say the ones you trust. You don't have to say anything about the ones you don't. But is that a thing? Because, again, those go wrong. That's real bad. So, and, you know, we're going to really get in the weeds here, the different moves, but you've got to just know how to protect yourself.

So it's on you. If you're getting pile-drived, you got to do the thing. You better know how to protect yourself, yes, without question. It's, you know, now there's all kinds of new moves and getting thrown and flips and that kind of stuff. And sometimes guys put themselves into position that you know dang well. There is a high risk of injury and they still do it. I just don't think that's smart. Especially for any longevity.

That's why I quit wrestling, guys. That's the reason. I was just like, I don't want to do it once because I'll die. If, like, if we, like a guy like Cactus Jack, Mankind, Mick Foley, whatever, who, like, I don't know how good of an athlete he was because he didn't look like an athlete. But my assumption is he had to be a great athlete to last that long and also live through some of the risks he took. Was he a great athlete? He's a good athlete. He wrestled amateur.

But, you know, and we could probably go down a list of guys, but a guy like McFoley, he had a passion almost to a detriment. I tell him that to his face, that he didn't mind sacrificing his physical health and gave it to the fans. Look, we're talking about him today, falling off a cage and all kinds of stuff like that. That's what I think of, the Undertaker, you know, falling, you know, falling through jumping off.

Yeah. Yeah. And I just think he has to, because he didn't look at, but that's part of his gimmick, right? Even in Mr. Sock, like all the things he did, he had so much around him. But I always, I mean, he must be a great athlete to be able to live through this many things. He had a desire to perform like none other. You know, he feels it to this day. You see him walk around today, he, you know, he doesn't get around as good as a, I'll say, a 60-year-old man should. Sounds like a former NFL player. And guys that we know that are like, oh, man, like, it's hard for me to even get up in the morning because of that. Dang.

When you wore pants, because you were never, you mostly weren't tights guy. You had pants for a lot of. Long tights. Yeah. It was all tights forever. Like, you know, underwear tights? Yeah, it was weird. Because everybody's more tights.

The short tights. Yeah. And I wear short biker shorts now. Yeah. But again, but you had pants. You have a whole. Long, yes. For a long time.

But like all those guys from like early Ted DiBiossi, Bruno San Martino, they all had like these gimmicks and then they would just be like just in tights. And I was, when you started to wear pants, was that uncommon that people were wearing things other than just the tights, the very beginning of pants? So the easy analogy was, you know, prior to cable television, they were territory wrestling. And it was truly called professional wrestling. wrestling and it was a mindset, well,

a guy named Vince McMahon came along and said, I'm going to turn this into sports entertainment. And you kind of look at the transition. And look, in the early 80s, they were long tight guys, but it was you wear long tights or short tights, but all the costuming and persona and yes, gorgeous George and the real hardcore wrestling fans going to say, no, they were doing this and that.

But the business really radically changed in the mid-80s when Hulkomania came along. And you saw talent, you saw wrestlers, on lunchboxes because of the licensing. And so when the licensing came along, that's when the real defined costuming and personas and all that changed. Who was your favorite wrestler as a kid? Lawler, Savage, and my original OG was the fabulous Jackie Fargo.

I was mesmerized, not just by his strut, but his demeanor. You know, his promo skills, if you will, he would just sit there and talk and make you laugh. then he'd make you cry. And then at the end of his promo, he would be very calm and cool and just say, I'm coming down to the Coliseum to kick your ass. And I believed it. It was his delivery. He was a really good actor that you wouldn't ever want to call Jackie an actor.

He called himself a professional wrestler. But his delivery was so believable. When did you get in the zone with promos? Because you're great. You're one of the best ever. But were you all? I'm assuming you weren't always because I wasn't always good at this. I was terrible.

Yeah. When did it happen for you? Podcast drops new my world, my shirt on every Tuesday. We just recently played my very first promo. I wasn't just bad, Bobby. I was horrible. But I tell you what, the reps that I got, WMC TV and Memphis TV, every Saturday morning, 10 a.m., going out and do that,

you just got reps and reps and reps. So it just took me a while. And then when I went to the WWF in 1993, It's the first time that I'd really been produced by someone other than my father. And that was a difficult relationship through the years with my father just because, yeah, he's my dad, but he's also, he was harder on me than anybody. And he did that by design. But when Vince started producing me and brought things out of me and I tell guys today, man, find somebody that you like, but they need to produce you. Don't produce yourself.

Who, as a peer, was a great promo. Man, I mean, Lawler comes to mind right up top. Mick Foley, really, really good. Stone Cole had his stick down, if you want. Really, really good. The Rock, of course. I tell you what, you give Road Dog Jesse James, Brian James. His father was Bullitt Bob Armstrong, so he's a second generation.

Brian was one of those guys like Fargo. He could make you laugh, he could make you cry, and then he could deliver. very, very, very believable. Former Marine, so he knew how to yell. Yeah, Road Dog was awesome. Oh, it's fantastic. He did his own, too, like, coming out. Yeah.

Wrestling, I was watching, and again, it's all my algorithm. It's crazy what that, like, the late 90s would allow at WWF. Oh, my gosh. Well, yeah, you'd been canceled. We'd been canceled a lot. Crazy. I know. To look back and see some of that.

There was one where Triple H. was eating a hot dog at a table, and he's looking down, and then he's like, oh, yeah, yeah, and then afterwards, this girl just climbs out from under the table. Like, that was the kind of, it was wild. But I'm like 12, and I'm like, yes, I'm talking about. Exactly. It's a different world. And cable television was a different world.

You know, there wasn't four or five hundred channels and certainly not YouTube and streaming on that. It was still truly cable television. The numbers, when you just kind of look at everything, it was. It was a fun time to be alive in so many ways. But what exposure. Everybody watched it back then. Well, especially when you're hillbillies.

Like it was our... There you go. Yeah, it was our sports. You didn't want to care about Titans and Preds and football and basketball. That's that highbrow stuff. No, we wanted to go to Memphis and watch Junkyard Dog. Exactly. Because it was, you know, did you watch Iron Claw by any chance?

You know what? I did it on a plane. He was about a while after it came out, but I did. What did you think about it? The movie versus what? The reality. So my father in 1988 went out there. My dad was right on the end of the movie.

And so I lived those tragedies. And I get it. It's Hollywood. They did it for their own reasons. But for me personally, that's why I don't want to sound like, oh, me, he's negative about this movie. But when I watched it, my experience was I could not remove the real life mentality of the immense just unbelievable tragedy.

and like Chris wasn't even in the movie and he was, you know, took his life but wasn't even mentioned and I know they have their reasons and all that but so for a movie, I get it you know, I'm certainly not a movie critic by any stretch of imagination but it was, you know, on the one hand

I'm glad they kind of in a way celebrated that story but the real life story is much, much, much more tragic than the movie. Which is often the other way around is what's crazy. And I think, hopefully, because I did this too, and again, I caught the tail in because Kerry was killing at Mid-South when I was young and we would drive over. But hopefully people watch the movie and then like Googled and then like read for real.

Because that's what I did again. And it was like, oh yeah, forgot about all this. And I missed the older Bonnericks, right? I wasn't old enough to see the older brothers. I mean, are you sad? into an end or do you feel like you're going to come out of retirement for the fourth time like the stones? No, look, that's the thing I was really, back to the situation that, you know, this time in our business, just last weekend, Asheville, we did a show called Fight for the Fallen,

but it was dynamite and it was our first ever streaming episode. WWU just premiered on Netflix. You know, we're on Max. And so the business as a whole is really transforming into, it's going to the next level. We just talked about the golden age of cable television. I've been lucky enough by the greatest guy to be around. Here's the next ride. And so as a part of me signing my final contract,

I just kind of put that out there because, look, I'm not riding off into the sunset. I'll be around in professional wrestling. But as far as an in-ring career, I just kind of made it my mind that, okay, this is it. But I think I've also incentivized myself because I want to, one last shot at gold. I want to go out with a bang somehow, some way, and then be done with it. But I'm not ready, as I sit here today, to be done with it at all. Did you watch any of the WVN Netflix? Yeah. Hogan got booed hard. And I did not see that. I was surprised. Now why? Only because it was such a celebration of wrestling now, but also they had heroes as well.

and I was surprised, because again, wrestling fans are such historians, I was surprised they didn't just cheer for the character, and they didn't. They booed the person. And why did they booed the person, do you think? I don't know your friendship, so I'm just going to say this. I don't think Cole Cook is a good dude. And so I feel like...

Was it a political boo? No, because Undertaker got a pop, big pop. And Undertaker came out in support of Trump. So that eliminated the political thing immediately. Because I was like, let's not make this, I don't want. Okay. That's why I'm curious. So it was, to me, it was not political because Undertaker and Kane both sat with Donald Trump and said we are saying vote for Donald Trump.

Hogan obviously, he was, make America great again. It was not political. People respect The Undertaker as a wrestler and a person. People don't respect Hulk Hogan anymore. It's one thing after the other. Yeah. And I think because of that, people now. no. There was a story about Hulk Hogan that I was going to talk about on our show this morning

where this fan said, hey, I saved up and gave Hulk Hogan this $4,000 belt as a gift because it was like my hero. Hulk signed it an auction and sold it. And sold it. Wow. So I think when there's a hundred of those things, I think those people are cheering against that human. It was not political or they would have treated Undertaker the same way. Wow. That's my thoughts. So I had a lot going on at my house last night. I watched the first hour and a half, two hours I did not see that segment. I saw the very end of the last match. So you're the first conversation I've had.

And that is, the whole Undertaker, which you laid out for me is interesting. But it also, I guess to me it jumps off at the page. The wrestling fan, there has been such a stereotype. Oh, my whole life, oh, you like wrestling. You're a bunch of lowbrow, entertainment, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And at the end of the day, I've always believed this. Professional wrestling fans are pop culture.

Sometimes we've been in front of the car, maybe sometimes not. But you look in political circles, it's a wrestling promo. You look at all the belts and all the, you know, there's so much, to me, there's a lot of professional wrestling in touchdown dances and celebrations and all kind of things. but the wrestling fan is so easy to understand that I have a, you know, they put groceries on my table for three generations, but I have a lot of respect for the wrestling fans because they will tell you what they like and what they don't like,

sometimes more importantly. And I feel like they're educated. Yes. And I feel like they're so educated, myself being one, in that they still enjoy it knowing what a shoot is. Oh. It's always been irrelevant, but whether it's real or not. And that's where the, for those that believe, that all saying, those that believe, no explanation is needed, those who don't believe, no explanation will do about fresh wrestling.

It's the true fan could have, they could care less. They want to be entertained. But to your point, Hogan didn't pass the sniff test last night. It was embarrassing. And they let him know it. That's where I respect the wrestling fan. Like, okay, and I'm assuming they were selling the beer, right? On his shirt.

He came out with a shirt. comes out and he's like brother and I was so I was not expecting them to boo and I'm like wow they're booing and so he has his beer on his shirt and he ends up doing the shirt rip and it's like Netflix and that part I got but he also felt like a shill because he was just coming out to sell his beer and had he come out in a Hulkomania shirt I think maybe slightly different but even then again I was surprised that they just didn't cheer the character I got you but they booed the human that's a wrestling fan and yes and it wasn't political again because they When Undertaker, they went crazy.

I love that. The motorcycle around the ring, yeah. Because it was like, you know, American BA Undertaker, motorcycle, not, you know, death motor, you know, funeral. Not dead man. Not dead man. Yeah. That kind of thing. But the, where was I going?

Oh, the world we live in now, just the evolution of the business. I mean, I love your beautiful new studios and I've heard you got a sports podcast. This may be on this. Just how things have continued to transform. That's wrestling. It's on Netflix. Who would have ever thought we're all max every week now globally. It's amazing where wrestling is going.

It's so pop culture that this interview, I'll be able to play it. It'll be on a podcast. It'll be on the radio show. And different parts of it are appealing to different people for different reasons. So, you know, we've done 40 minutes here, and I'll take three, four, five, six minutes and put it on the national broadcast radio show. I'll put 40 minutes of it as a podcast. It'll be 20 different two-minute.

Clip. Amazing. It's every, because that's, I mean, wrestling is that now. Yes. And you're right, the belts. Like, every football team has the championship belt, like interception. I mean, it is. That's right. Our president is in the W.W.E. Hall of Fame. I say that tongue and cheap, but it is, I'm going back to the wrestling fan and the pop culture and where our industry's at. And, you know, I tell guys, hey, man, if you want to really get good at it, go to YouTube and start watching because you have that ability, like you said, two minute clips, three minute clips. wrestling's everywhere. Before we conclude,

who's like an awesome dude? A famous wrestler that's like an awesome dude. Give me like three awesome dudes that I want to be happy. I like cheer that I like. He says Hulk. Well, that's why I said to. I was like, I don't know what's your friend. I just wanted to give my opinion before I even knew.

But yes, who are like awesome dudes? Oh, my gosh, you're going to put me on the spot here. Brian Danielson. Daniel Brian is how you may know it. Newer version. Yes, got it. So now. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, that guy is salted there. And just, I can't tell you how genuine. He loves the business. Well, anyway, you don't want me to go into all the characteristics. But Brian, oh, boy, you're going to say. What about back in the day? Man, so many different characters. Remember Dutchman Tell?

I do. That's back back in the day for me. That's way back in the day. I look at him as one of my mentors, but he was a guy, and I was a promoter's kid. but he took the time. He's very well read. He taught me a lot, and when he didn't have to.

80s, Dutch, Mattielle, 90s. Like a good dude that we know. A good dude. You know what? Yoko Zuna. Really? Yoko, I got in there 93, 94. One night after a show,

he said, who you're riding with? And I said, well, I got to get to the airport to run a car. He said, now you're with me. And so I rode with him for a while and the salt of the earth, but I mean a gentle giant. When he would, you know, he'd stick his butt in your head and he did splash. You know. That's for Kishi. Yoko.

He wouldn't flop on you? Oh, no, yeah, he would do. Yeah, the flop, you know, whatever you call it, the whole, ah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because he was like sumo. Exactly. That's him. That's him.

That's him. Would he, like, pull the punt? Like, when you do that and you're that big, can you pull that punch a little bit? His athletic ability was second to none. You know, Roman Reigns, Rikishi, the Uso's, it's all rocks a part of that family. But to me, Yoko's athletic ability was, he was incredible because he knew how to take care of you. But his, he looks so vicious. Oh, yeah.

I mean, he's great. It's huge. Yeah. There are four people. And before I. No, do whatever. I would do this. I want to go to dinner.

sometime and just like talking real life i would love to this is like my favorite thing okay go ahead owen heart i i just cannot tell you and people he was a ribber and a practical joker and all this but man i was always amazed because uh growing up in a rest and family like myself it's just we're we just kind of whack jobs no it's just a different upbringing owen same thing he's one of ten kids and all that but man you talk about having your head on straight owen to me is at the top of that list. There are like four celebrities and I've been very fortunate in my career to either have interviewed anybody ever wanted to interview or do shows or just like have relationships. And there's like four on my list that I've never been able to get. One of them is the

baseball player Mark Grace, number 17 for the Cubs, my favorite player growing up. Another one is David Letterman, like my hero, right? David Letterman was my hero. I saw somebody from, I'm from the South, but he's from Middle America who looked a little odd. I was an odd kid. I was like, oh, if he can do it. So I have these people in my life that are the white whale. One of them of the four is a wrestler. No way. And I can't get him to save my life. And I think you know, I don't know if you guys are friends or not.

What is Sting like? Oh, wow. Dude, I've tried to get, I've been like, let me interview you. I'll come to you. I wrote about him in my first book. Are you kidding me? No, I don't know what Steve or Sting or whatever. be like he will not acknowledge my existence and it makes me sad Jeff

where scuba at he's I'll work my deal with him I don't want you to pay me but he'll pay me okay deal no no no no I'm kidding um do you mind what I like sting is a person absolutely you would that's my he's my favorite all time would you mind if I put out feelers directly to him are you can do whatever you want I've tagged them we've like reached out to It surprised me that the past, and, and, again, I, did you just say you would go to him? Absolutely. I wrote about him in my first book when I talk about influences that made me want, and Sting was one of them. And so I was like, he's my list of people I have never met that I've been trying so hard to get to.

Wow. And that's what, but I'd like to tell you, consider it none, but I've got to find out why. But what I like him, you can see, maybe I wouldn't like him. You would. He's authentic. really authentic. What a, you know, California kid that, you know, played basketball and then got in the gym and, you know, maybe you don't.

What? You didn't ask a question. You asked a question in your head and then answered it before you said the words. Maybe his doesn't know the connection between the Jarrett's and Sting. Who, me? I do not know that. Okay, yeah. So.

Do you call him Sting or Steve when you see him? Because we call Lunchbox, Lunchbox, lunchbox, all the time. When he walks in the door for wrestling, Stinger, what are we doing tonight? Got it. On the phone, hey Steve, maybe a little sick, both. So there were four guys called the Power Team that were trained out in California. They were all just in the gym. The way Sting got into it, he went to his show at L.A. Arena and saw Hulkomania and said, yeah, I kind of give this a shot.

So there were four guys called Power Team USA that they sent out their feelers to all kind of promoters across the country. That's how you used to do it. black and white, eight by tens. My dad got the photos and said, holy smokes, these guys look great. Called them. Got Jim Hellwig on the phone. Called him, Warrior.

And Sting, back in those days, they had landlines, and Sting picked up the other phone. And my dad said, hey, I'd love for you guys to come in, but I can only take two. I can't take all four. And they're both like,

and I'm getting this story. It's kind of close. I think they were. But anyway, my dad said, I'll take this one, and I'll take this one, and it was Sting and Warrior. So Thanksgiving Day, 1985. hilarious. In Hendersonville, Tennessee, you know, on Thanksgiving days back in the day, I hear a

knock at the door, and I could look down over the balcony from a second story, looked down the front door, opened the door, and I was on kind of the landing. My dad opened the door, and that's the first time Everleigh dies. I was a junior in high school and Sting drove cross country and he started wrestling for my dad in 1985. That's a really cool story. And that's, yeah. And I say all that to say that at TNA, Sting, we called in a favor of him and my father.

He came in work for us when we were literally a startup. Then he came on later full time when we got up and running. But yeah, me and him go back to 1985. You know, and two final things. The face paint is the greatest. thing to conceal age for anybody. I guess when he would come out, even still, and he's in black

and he's got the paint. Number two, spray tan. He, that's true. Hey, I can say that too for my, when I have to freaking get on TV all the time. That spray tan is a plus. You got to have it. But yeah, no, the face paint for, or masks. Yep. You know, Mysterio. You know, I'd have a mask, because you never get older.

You know, it's, uh, dang. What do you like about Sting? Like, why do you like them so much? Blond Sting was my introduction really. Oh. Oh, yeah, by far Blond Sting. Back in the day day. So Blond Sting was like my introduction into wrestling.

And then that's kind of when I started to play sports. And so like I would wrestle like with other dudes. This is weird to say. We would like wrestle. And I was like, oh, I can kind of play sports a little bit. And Sting was my favorite. So I would like emulate him, which then kind of gave me confidence to play other sport. So it's kind of that. It's a weird,

it's a stupid story. I love it. It's like a loser story. Like, I was wrestling with other boys and I'm like, I can do, but Sting was like the guy I would like do as, because anybody could do the Scorpion Splash or the death lock, all that. So that's all that. I love this story. No, yeah. It's lame. I'm lame. No, it's not. I love the story. I'm so lame. I'm so lame. Final question. People will ask you to record a video or a picture. Does anyone

ever want you to hit them with the real guitar and you're like, I'm not going to hit you with the real guitar really hard? I'm asked that more than you can imagine. Yes. And I'm reluctant. I'm not on cameo, but yeah, people want me to hit them with guitars or do this or do that. Yeah. I did a thing last summer, a reverend, he's a young preacher for the baby reveal.

We put... Blue and pink? Yes. And I hit somebody over the guitar. But it had to be a guitar. It's already broken. A guitar that was crafted enough to fall apart easily, right? For sure.

I would imagine idiots would be like, hit me with this guitar, and it's a real one. And that would hurt. I mean, that's a whole different ball game. I was over in London, and a guy was,

I'm like, I'm not hitting you with that. He says, here's money. I said, I'm not doing that. He said, all right, here's more money.

I said, dude, this won't break. It's going to knock you out. Please hit me with it. Okay. But I never did. Follow real Jeff Jared on Instagram as I do. Promote your podcast.

My world with Jeff Jarrett drops every Tuesday morning. How do you like doing that? You know, I told the guy my partner Conrad Thompson know for about two and a half years. I said, nobody wants to listen to my stories. And he goes, trust me, I'm very excited that I did it. And we've been going about two and a half, three years and record, just recorded yesterday. And, you know, we talk a little bit of current stuff for the first 20, 30 minutes,

and then we get into a wrestling story, whether it's a pay-per-view or specific wrestler, a time frame, all kinds of different topics. But it's a blast. And then we're going to find out because you're next to the last match as we're live as tomorrow. So it's going to be yesterday when you're next to last match. We're having one more match. You're not saying what it is. Oh, no, no, no.

I signed a – I re-signed last month, December. And I'm not going to give you the term of it, but it's more than a year. Okay, okay. This is said promoting final match after this – So, okay. No, what I said last week in Nashville. Bill Bobby was, I've signed my final talent contract and won't get into terms and all that kind of stuff, but this is the final one.

But as far as signing it, I've made a goal in 2025, I'm going to win AEW Gold. It may happen this month. It may happen in December. But this year, you know, that's a 57-year-old man winning AEW Gold does not happen. I'm a fan. And I'm going to try to make it happen. I'm going to really. I'm going to really.

really I really am. I mean, I think it's just crazy enough and it was based off because my wife was like, are you sure you want to resign? And I got five kids. And they were like, dad, you're going to hang this up at some point? You know, my oldest is 28. And I'm like, okay, and I've heard this for a couple of years. And I just kind of said, okay, this is the final contract, but I used the old analogy that my father taught me that his grandfather taught him, said, hey, if you ever want to climb a tree, Don't get under the tree and figure out how you're going to get to the first branch. Get way away from it. Figure out how you're going to climb to the top and you'll have the most success in life.

So if I don't get AEDW gold, I'm still trying to get it. I'm going to have a ton of fun. I don't want to just pick up a check if that makes sense. I'm going for it all. I'm a massive fan. I love when you come by. I appreciate you having me out. I'm going to have Scooby giving myself on number two.

You live here. I follow you. We should be friends because I would love to. And believe me, I am going to. work. I am. If you knew how shocked I was, and when you said that, I'm like, what? Yeah, I will fly. If he, I will fly to him. We will set up. We, I've tried so many times. And I don't want to put the burden on you to do that. I just, you're not. Because some people be like, I don't know if you guys will get along. He would love you. Yeah, tell him that. He, he would because, look, he's, he's,

he's been around and dealt with, we won't leave names, but you know, click baiters. Yeah. And Sting has a storied career, but what can, will he not? Hogan, will he not A, B, and C, D, wrestler? And Sting is just, he's not, I mean, in real life, but obviously in professional life, but in real life, he ain't about that at all. He is. Because I ain't either. I ain't about that either. I get my opinions.

But, well, Jeff, thank you, man. No, thank you. I like to hang out with you in real life someday. And I don't ever say that to anybody, but I think we'd be fine. He doesn't say that to anybody. I don't say that to anybody. Does he not? No, never. Nobody. I don't like it. Hey, you know what? I heard. that he does something with baseballs.

Oh yeah, did you sign a ball for us? No, but since me and you spoke last time, I'm involved in Woodbat, it's minor league baseball, it's a college kid, so I'm a part of ownership group up in Springfield, Illinois. Of what team? Springfield Lucky Horses is the name of the team. It's a Woodbat League,

and then we just acquired our second club over in Quincy, Illinois, but in the baseball world. So when the folks out there said, hey, you've got to sign a baseball instead, right on. That's new since that was last time. Entrepreneur?

Have I told you, No, I just told the story right there. You don't remember the gift. Y'all kick lunchbox out that week last time. You filled in with us. It's awesome. Yeah. Okay.

So in my office at home, I've got... I remember giving... Yes, I remember. Would you give me? Do you remember? It was goofy. It was like... Okay.

Yeah. What a conversation base. I'll tell it. Are we overtime? You were way over time. No. You can... I would say for two hours with you.

I don't want to keep you. So tell the story. But real quick. So I've got belts and... kind of memorabilia of Jeff. I got a Jeff Hardy painting and a couple of different things. But over on one of my guitars, I have the action figure.

And it's signed. He signed it from it. You don't remember this. I don't remember it, no. Okay. But in 2018, I'd just done the Hall of Fame and I'd gone back and done a one-off.

But there was a guy named Elias, a wrestler Elias, and you sign the figure. And so people will come in the office. I have a business meeting and they'll look around. And that's cool, Jeff. And look at that, and then they'll look at me and go. What's the deal with

Eli's figure? I said my man, Bobby Bow. I found it last man. It was the whole thing. I follow you on social. I present this to you. Your entrepreneurship is second to nine. Well, thank you for coming in.

I hope we didn't keep you too long. Let's get them. Let's get the belt. Get the belt and bring it in. Oh, that's my bucket list. Get the belt and bring it in. That's cool. Yeah.

And Sting, you're the man. Jeff, you are the man. No, no. I'm working on Stinger. Yeah, you guys follow. go listen to Jeff podcast. We'll put it on the show notes for you guys to go and search for it. And love that you here and hope to see you again soon, Jeff. Appreciate it, man. Really do.

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Matt Castle played for Kevin's team, the Patriots. Yep, yep. He got famous because he had to fill in for Brady that whole season. One of 13 games, I think, didn't make playoffs. Yeah, and the crazy part is 15 years, whatever it is later. He's probably the best quarterback we've had besides Brady. That's crazy. What do you think about that?

Yeah, 11 and 5, right, whatever he was? Yeah, that's awesome. Did he win 11 games or 13? Yeah, I think because they didn't make the playoffs. That was like the thing. The dolphins. The dolphins, right. And that made him famous because it wasn't his play, although he did play pretty well,

but that he was the one that had to go on for Tom Brady, game one of that season. After the undefeated season, the year after. Well, almost undefeated. Didn't go totally. There was that game. Yeah, you didn't go totally. I don't remember that one.

So it's Matt and myself, and we've had a couple great guests. We had Kurt Warner on, Hall of Fame quarterback. Wasn't drafted. I think I forget that sometimes. He seems like a cool guy, too. It was awesome. I mean, they made a movie about him. It did.

That's when you know your big time. American underdog? It's what it's called? I watched it. I thought it was a little. corny a little Hollywood I don't mind Hollywood

a little lifetime isk that's what it was Hallmarkish I did like it but it was that movie wasn't made for it wasn't like Friday Night Lights

for the hardcore football fan any given Sunday yes it was made for somebody who doesn't spend every Sunday dedicated and dialed in and I think it was a great movie for who it was made for

but when you're a hardcore sports fan and you're like well that doesn't really happen that never happens like that but that's only if somebody's watching sports all the time. So when I say corny, like to me, us, we'd have been like, that doesn't quite happen. Biopics with music does us all the time too. Like the queen one, a little corny.

Movie was good. But you're like, they didn't quite happen like that. And for timing reasons, they had to get famous real quick. But it is. My wife really liked it. It's a good movie. Really? Yeah.

Check it out. And so we were talking about playoffs. And for me, it was the Lions offensive coordinator. He's going to be a head. coach and it's got to be weird to know you've got to put a staff together right now as you're also trying to win an NFL title yeah um so we talked about that and what type of mentality routine he had going to the playoff so here he is this is us it's five minutes of us talking with kurt warner talk about the human nature part of this like a ben johnson offensive coordinator with the lions

who's you know didn't head coach last year he said i want to stay i believe in the offense so i'm going to stay with detroit uh great decision he's killing it he's going to have whatever job probably he wants. However, these jobs are open right now. They're interviewing right now. He's not interviewing because he's, but still, you're a human. And it's like, that's got to be on your mind as well as you enter. And I looked a few minutes ago, the Lions are favored to win the Super Bowl. They're the number one team right now as far as like the odds.

Like that's, the human part of that's got to be difficult for somebody, right? I would, I would think so. Like, I don't really know, you know, especially when, you know, we use Ben Johnson as that example. It's like, you've never been. a head coach. So this is like your moment, your opportunity, you've got to be ready for these interviews. You've got to be thinking like, okay, if the season's over and I get one of these jobs, like, who's going to be on my staff? Who am I going to take? Like, yeah, and then all of that while whatever your normal schedule is to prepare and create and build a game plan, I mean,

yeah, I don't know. I don't know how you balance it. I mean, you know, we always said as players, too, like, you know, family was kind of that other side of it. So we're talking about Ben Johnson, like head coaching spot and his current. Like for us, it was, or for me, it was the family. Like, okay, so this is the amount of time I'm going to spend, you know, preparing for football. And then I need to shut that off and try to, you know, be a dad or a husband or or focus on family over here. And it was really hard to do, you know, it was hard that, you know, for those things not to get all mixed together and meet. thinking about football when I should be at home or me thinking about, you know, family and

something that was going on when I should be at football and, and balancing that out. So I would have to think that would be a huge, I mean, I don't think you can, you know, if somebody's calling me today and going to do a, you know, head coaching interview with me today, while we're getting ready for a playoff game a week and a half from now, yeah, I mean, I think you're fully focused on, okay, how do I get this head coaching job? You know, what do I need to do and how do I have everything in place and your current team has to take a little bit of a backseat in that regard. So figuring out that balance, I think, has to be key. But I think you're 100% right.

Human nature is going to say, okay, I'm going to lean towards, you know, I'm going to have to lean into both of them and probably take some time away from, you know, the current task at hand for the future task at hand. You played a lot of these playoff games. And we are having this discussion before. but Bobby was asking me, how does it change going into playoffs? Like your mentality,

and you know that the intensity goes up tenfold. But were you one of those players that had a specific routine and tried to stick to that routine, not make it bigger than it was? Were you also one of those quarterbacks? Look, I hated that feeling I used to get before the game. I always got those knots in my stomach,

oh, would overanalyze, do all those. But once you got out on the field, you get hit for the first time, and you start to process and you go, hey this is just football i got to be reactionary rely on my preparation what i need to do but what type of mentality do you have going into these type of weeks yeah playoffs was different and so i was one of the guys that was really good at focusing and so my kids still joked to this day like you know even if i'm if i'm sending you a text matt and my kids are in the room with me and they're like

dad dad dad i don't hear them because like i'm focused on what i'm trying to say to you in the text and I just tune out all the other noise. And they're like, Dad, we're trying to get your attention. Like, all you're doing is texting. But I had an uncanny ability to focus, which obviously a lot of guys at our level and certainly playing quarterback with 70,000 people, you know, have that ability to focus.

But during, you know, the normal week, it would come about 3.34 o'clock on a Saturday afternoon. And my wife would be like, all right, he's in the zone. Go to the hotel. Go to your room. Like, get, you're like, no reason. for you to be around anymore because you're a different guy. When I got into the playoffs, it was always like I had to tell my wife, okay, honey, I know in the past you've given me 24 hours,

48 hours. Now I need four weeks. Like, I'm not going to be a good dad. I'm not going to be a good husband. I'm locking in for the next four weeks and it's going to be all football. And it's all focused on trying to win a championship. And then we can celebrate and go on trips and do that afterwards. But it was really that kind of change for me, Matt, where it was like I could never get it off my mind. And I didn't really want to. Like I didn't want to separate it at that point. Like I knew it was all about the regular season's great, but the regular season was just set me up to have a chance to win it all. So once we got into the playoffs, that was it. Like everything else is gone. Everything else is pushed out. I'm sorry, but this is my focus. And, you know,

and just like we were talking about, you know, the split focus and balance. I wasn't even looking to balance anymore. My mindset was, okay, we're playing Sunday. I am not taking a minute off in terms of my preparation. So I can be the best that I can be on Sunday. And, you know, obviously my mindset was I want to do it for four weeks because it's going to end up by us being in the Super Bowl and hopefully winning it.

So thanks to Kurt, listen to the full interview and the full episode. It's called Lots to Say. And in the second episode, we had Tim McGraw, big sports fan, cool guys. Matt told a story about seeing Tim McGraw Workout in the Weight Room when Matt was with the Chiefs. He walks in and McGraw's in there. Really? Yeah.

We talked to LSU and how they feed Tim scores while he's doing a show. Here's a few minutes of Tim McGraw with myself and Matt Castle on our podcast, lots to say. I've actually been to one of your concerts. I was in Kansas City and I remember I was down in the facility one day

and it's before the day of the concert and I walked down. I think it might have been a Saturday or something like that and you're in the wait room getting after it. I mean, and so I walk in, I just see this guy, and he's ripped up, he's got his cutoff shirt. I think you were wearing a bandana on your head. And I asked my strength, I asked my strength, the conditioning coach.

I said, hey, coach, who is that? He's like, dude, that's Tim McGraw. He's getting after it. I was like, I can see that. I mean, is that something that you do on tour? Is that something that, because I know obviously you're always in shape every time I've ever seen you. But is it something you go around and anytime you can get a workout in, you do? Yeah, that's part of the routine every day.

And most of the band guys do. It's just part of our everyday routine. And it's been that way for, gosh, 15 years now. We don't feel the same if we don't get a workout in during the day. And we have a gym that travels with us. And it looks like a prison yard out by our bus. We have ropes and chains and tires and everything outside the bus. And so we get in two or three workouts a day when we're on the road.

All right. Let's get it. And it keeps us out of trouble for a lot of reasons. Yeah. Yeah, Phil's time. And you're on the road. There's a lot of freaking time. Okay, we're going to get personal here and see how you feel about this.

Last season, LSU, Brian Kelly. I don't know. A lot of people have a lot of stuff to say. Tim, what are you got to say? I don't know, man. Look, that's just such a tough gig anymore to coach college players, I think, with all the new money coming in and these guys don't know. I don't want to put anybody down.

I'm not trying to say that college players don't listen because I don't know them that well. But I can imagine trying to be a college coach we used to have a complete control and everybody doing exactly what you say and when you say to do it and how you say to do it. And then you got these guys now that are not that I'm against them being able to eat and make, it's not that I'm for or against any of that stuff. It just seems like it makes the job of coaching tougher in that environment because it's

tough enough in the NFL when you're dealing with grown men with careers and making business decisions every day about their career and how long they're going to be around and the things they're going to do and what's good for them, what's good for the body, what's good for the team. that calculus and that outcome that all comes into effect. I just think that it makes it really tough to coach college football these days.

And it takes a really strong personality to go in there and do that. Brian Kelly's a great coach. Now, who knows if his style is going to work with a team like LSU or not? It is wild. I wouldn't want to be a coach right now in college football. With the NIL, the Transfer Portal,

you have to recruit people. You go into NIA, I mean, in the Transfer Portal to recruit more guys to come in. but in addition to that you got to recruit your own players every single year these guys come in and say hey coach look if you want me for the bowl game i'm gonna i'm gonna need another 200 grand you know that like that's that's the nature of the beast now right and then how do you do that as a coach and how do you how do you how do you do that as a coach and how do you do as an organization in a coaching organization and still be able to let layer your game plan down put these guys in a position to win put these guys

in a right mindset to win make these guys play as a team it's just tough all the way around and And look, people are going to evolve with it. Coaches are going to evolve with it. Coaches are going to learn how to do it in a different way, I'm sure, but there is a curve that's going on right now. I don't want to reveal the great mighty eyes. So if this is a secret that you don't feel like sharing, I'll start.

If I'm doing a stand-up show at a theater or even in my television contracts, if Arkansas is playing football and I am working or if it's a night game, I'll have a small screen on a monitor. I will have, because I can't watch a game recorded. It doesn't exist. A recorded game I cannot go to afterward because it's on my phone everywhere. So I will have a monitor at all times so I can watch the game. If there is a big LSU game, Tim, and you are on stage, how are you getting information fed to you? Through my ears, through my in-air monitors, my guy, Heath on the sides always telling me to score.

And he also used to do that when my kids were in high school. And one of my daughters was a cheerleader. So we went to all the high school games. And we were really invested in Ensworth High School football. So we tailgated and all the stuff. So when I happened to be on stage and there was a game going on, I was getting fed scores right in the middle of song. So if I dropped the word, I was happy about the score.

Do you have an NFL team as well? I mean, obviously your ties in Nashville, maybe the Titans, but I don't know. I mean, who's your NFL team? I root for the Titans, of course, because of being in Nashville. And I root for the Eagles because I have two brothers that live in Philadelphia. and, of course, my dad played ball in Philly and spent a lot of time there. And I grew up in Louisiana, so I'm still a Saints fan at heart as well.

This will always be my baby, this one right here. Oh, 25 whistles. Yeah, this is it. But I bet it's pretty cool to say you signed a deal with NFL, though. It's my favorite thing to say, ever. It's my favorite thing to say. It's pretty cool, dude. I would be telling everyone.

Signed deal with NFL. And then leave it like that and walk away. Doing what? Don't worry about what you think. I'll let you guess. Why do people say? Why do people sign with the NFL? You tell me. That's right.

So yeah, check out lots to say if you don't mind. And, yeah, pretty cool. Okay, before we go, who's the upset? Give me the upset that wins. Even if you don't believe one really will, if you have to pick an upset to win. We're talking both sports, college and NFL? Nuck, I won't do college.

Just NFL, right? You know what, good. Give me an upset. Anything in general? Yeah, you can't do the game last night, though. Right. Right, or that's cheating. Because they both won and lost.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is Schrodinger's cat. Okay, cool. I'm going to go Texans. Yeah, I mean, I'm going to go Steelers just because I feel like, I don't know, everyone's been talking down on them. I feel like they could rise up. Is that an upset? They're a nine point dog.

They're probably like the biggest upset. Oh, okay, so they win it. Yeah, yeah. I see a scenario where they win. So you're saying Texans beat the Chargers. Yeah, I think that's pretty much a coin flip. You don't really know. I mean, Texans aren't playing very well right now, but they're still at home.

And they can beat the Chargers. And they always play at 3.30 on Saturday. It's like, 2011, Wildcar versus Bengals, Saturday, 3.30. Wildcar versus Bengals, 2012. Saturday, 3.30. 2015, Walcar versus Chief, Saturday, 3.30. Wildcar versus Raiders, Saturday, 3.30.

2018, Wildcar versus Colts. Saturday, 3.30. 2019, Wildcar versus Bill, Saturday, 330. 2023, Walcar versus Brown. Saturday, 3.30. 24, Wildcar versus Chargers, Saturday, 330. Wow. Shout out Houston.

They have no. The NFL has no respect for the Houston television audience. That time slot. Did you find that like yourself or did you see that somewhere? Mike. Kevin had given me all. I knew they had played a bunch of 330 games, but Kevin gave me the whole list all the way through.

Wow, that's crazy. Yeah, that's pretty crazy. Eddie? Man, I feel bad even thinking this because I'm going against our parlay, but I feel like the Packers could probably beat the Eagles. They did it last year. I think that's one. Can I do another one?

Well, you get one. Packers. the one. That's the one. I'm going to go with Texas to beat Ohio State. I see what you're dealing now. Yes. I see. I see. I see. I'm picking Texas. They're for sure going to win.

Quinn yours is. Dude, yours is going to cross. Casey catches on quick. They're only a six point dog. They got the athletes. You know, Ohio State's going to see these guys come out of the tunnel and be like, that bar orange looks tough. They're like, we're playing them? Oh. Oh.

Exactly. So my underdog to absolutely win. I bet it all, Texas. Wow, man. With the house. Yeah. Let's go. There's no way that's going to happen.

Trust me. Let's go horns. Spelled W-H-O-R-N-E. Oh, wow, wow. What's up? Nothing, man. That's it. Nailed it.

Let's go horns. Reid, did you have one you wanted to do? You don't have to, because I know you probably don't even know who's an underdog and who's a night. Yeah, how about commanders? That's good. That would be my second one. All right?

Yeah. I saw it was a small I think it was like what plus three Are they plus three? He looks at the screen Yeah Tampa's minus three right now So plus three Did everybody pick one?

Yeah I did steal it's yeah Hey okay before we go This would be the in conclusion Part of the show Hot take revisit from the preseason When we first started this show Oh cool I love these Hot take

I've got hot takes from all for Casey Eddie Kevin and myself These are things that when it was like Hey make your hot take before we start We'll start with Casey Yeah not good He says there will only be one team from the NFC North to make the playoffs. Three of the four made the playoffs.

Wow. That backfired. Very wrong. We didn't expect the Vikings to be awesome, to be fair. Yeah. Although we did think the Bears would be better. Yeah. Right.

I thought the Packers would not be as good. So who did you think the one team would be? The Lions? Yeah. Okay. So Casey, swinging to miss. Big swinging to miss. Kevin.

The Chargers win the division and Jim Harbaugh wins coach of the year. Not a huge mess They didn't win the division He probably won't win coach of the year But he'll be top three or four Yeah, they had a good year They made the playoffs I agree

If the chiefs weren't in that division Maybe it's a different story Right Good job, dude So again, he will not win coach of the year But it's not like he's for He sucked Right

So I would Casey I give you a D Yeah, that's fair Kevin I give you a B minus Oh nice You still made the honor roll All right All right

I haven't even looked at mine yet I don't know what mine is yet Because I'm like you guys I haven't looked at mine yet. I'm trying to think. What do I say? Eddie, dude, yours is hilarious. What did I say?

It's so wrong. Cowboys. No, no. Eddie the Bears? Eddie's, no. Eddie's hot take was he believed a certain player was going to have one of the best years of his career. And the player on this team will lead this team to win the division and the conference. Any idea?

Aaron Rogers. Oh. You thought that Aaron Rogers was. will have, if not the best year of his career, one of the best years of his career, and the Jets will win not only their division, but the AFC. Oh, wow. Just give me the F. Just give me the F.

That's an F. I appreciate the optimism. That's an F. Mine is C.J. Stroud. I said C.J. Stroud's mediocre this season. They won nine or ten games. Wow. They finished 10 and seven. And Strouds... He was mediocre. Yeah, last year he had 4,000 passing yards,

23 touchdowns, five interceptions as a rookie. This year, 3,600 passing yards. a little less, four less touchdowns, and seven more interceptions. Give me a B plus. Yeah. Oh man, that's really good. B plus. Huh.

I mean, he was a terrible fantasy quarterback, too. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. And he had like, oh, he's back. No. I don't even know we had those. So I made the honor roll on Kevin. Nah, you win for sure.

I'm trying to wait. We just walk the honor. We get the cord. Yeah. Oh, that's cool. We just put the cord on our gown. At graduation? Yeah, yeah.

And I never got one. You didn't get to come. Dang. You didn't get invited. I'm in my apartment. With a little extra credit, maybe we can get to do this. If you want to watch the show on YouTube, Reed, what do they do? Go to add Bobby Bones Sports on YouTube.

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Because Rita's moving, and he's hoping to keep part of his job, which is running the socials, and that's not going to happen if there's not a following that's built. Oh, so after he leaves. Because I gave him, like, eight months to build something. Got it. Yeah, so he's asking if you follow. Even if you don't want to watch the video, he's just asking you to follow. Nothing wrong with that, right?

No, man. Yeah, just go follow at Bobby Bowen Sports. Thank you guys. Thanks to Jeff Jarrett, and there's no news on the Super Bowl yet. Meaning we only have four tickets. We're not going to have five, but I haven't... Yeah. No idea on the game yet.

Well, I don't know who's playing. No one knows who's playing. Kevin, they have to do a tournament first. I'm talking about us. No, what happens is they've been seated. Yes, they have to play each other. And the one seeds are not playing this week, the Lions and the Chiefs, and the rest start this week, and they'll play and the winner moves on.

So anybody that loses... It's been a while since the Patriots have been in. They will not be in the Super Bowl if they lose this week. But anybody that wins this weekend, you have a chance to see at the game. But Kevin, don't worry. Wait. Don't worry. This whole process is fun to watch. It is fun. So just hang in there. Okay.

We don't know about the game yet. Okay. Just have faith that there will be two teams at the end. Yes. All right. Good to know. Okay, good buddy. All right, that's it. Thank you guys. Eddie Bell the Whistle. Your go. We'll see you guys Monday next week. Bye, buddy.

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