The Bobby Bones Show - 25W: Free Agency Frenzy Reaction + Dorm Dudes in Studio! + A Day in Tallahassee with FSU Men's Basketball + Reid's Proposition to Bobby

Episode Date: March 12, 2024

With the NFL free agency period beginning this week, the guys react to all the signings and trades around the league from day 1. Plus, the Dorm Dudes from TikTok are in the studio to talk about their ...breaks, the guys spent the day in Tallahassee for "Too Much Access", and Reid brings a proposition to Bobby after he won some items on TikTok.    Download the DraftKings Sportsbook App today: https://dkng.co/bobbysports If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/MI/NJ/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/NH), 888-789-7777/visit http://ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 1-877-770-STOP (7867) (LA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), call/text TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA).   21+ (18+ WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/LA/MI/NJ/ NY/PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. N/A in NH/OR/ON. New customers only. Valid 1 per new customer. Min. $5 deposit. Min $5 wager. $200 issued as eight (8) $25 free bets. Ends 9/19/22. See http://draftkings.com/sportsbook for details.   Follow the Show: @25Whistles   Follow the Crew: @MrBobbyBones @ProducerEddie @KickoffKevin @MikeDeestro @ReidYarberrySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:39 And this finally came in the mail when I hit with them. This is a Josh Allen rated rookie. Wow. You may look it up. It's a 2018 Panini Donnerist. Josh Allen, it's a gym mint condition, number 10. That is 10 rated? It's 10, yeah. So
Starting point is 00:02:56 I don't know what it's going for, but if he's good and gets better, I'll go for more. I mean, that's the best of the best. It's number 304. So 2018, Panini Donris, Josh Allen rated rookie. Wow. Wow. And I'm sure it's not thousands. I mean, it's probably like, I'm guessing 400 or 500 bucks or something.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Yeah, on eBay right here, it says 580. Okay. That's pretty good. Right, that's the same one. Is that a rate of 10, though? It's a rate of 10, though? It's a rate of 10. Is that one 10? Yeah, right here. Right at 10. Right at G-E-M-T and then 10 underneath. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Yep. So this Josh Allen, number 304, 2018, rated a rookie, boom. You won that on a break? Oh, man, that's awesome. That's really cool. It's awesome. Dang, there's another one on here for 1,700 bucks.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Is it this one now? It looks the same. Yeah, I mean, the way that works is they throw up. Hey, let's see if someone bites at 2 grand. Well, there's always kind of a market, though. There's not a lot of biting. I think the average, if you look at it, is probably around $450.500.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Did you see them? Is that why? Yeah, I saw him on Kevin's screen. Kim Kardashian's selling it. Did she sign it? Yeah. She signs it. Mike, I may let you look at it. Yeah, let me scan it.
Starting point is 00:04:09 And I'm sure it's about $500. I mean, listen, that's all. If it's $500, that's a win. So he's got the app where you can scan it and it tells you? No, no, no, it's Google. Oh, really? It's Google. No, no, you have an app?
Starting point is 00:04:18 It's Google. Yeah. Isn't it Google? Yeah, that's the app. Oh, you just... It has like a little camera box on it, and you put whatever it is to it, and it scans it and finds it.
Starting point is 00:04:26 I have never heard of that. It showed you in the commercial. I thought that was only on their phone, like the Google phone. It's an app? Who has a Google phone? It's reverse. Enough people to have a commercial for it.
Starting point is 00:04:36 That's a good point, because they do have commercials on that. Yeah, just pick one of them. I don't see any price. You can't pick the highest one, because that's someone... Oh, we're trying to find a 10. Here's one that's sold.
Starting point is 00:04:49 for 300 bucks okay that's a 9.5 so I'm telling you 400 500 or 500 I'll take it awesome dude boom that's that one I didn't let me hang on to that no just in case and you may be wondering why are you doing a show the day after you did a show I wasn't wondering that you weren't well because there were so much it happened yesterday mm-hmm I was wondering way too much in NFL and I have another thing I don't know much about soccer but this is some guy it's autographed he's His name is, and there's a jersey, one of his jersey pieces. I don't know, Brazilian Fobbenho.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Fabio? No, Fobbenho. He's a Brazilian soccer player. I don't know. I'm just going to put this in a... And you're winning those in breaks too? I think I may have been the same break. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:05:36 But I don't know anything about soccer and they're like, wow! And I'm like, I don't know that it is. It's like telling me that band BTS, the K-pop. It's like, this is their best song. And I'm like, I don't know. I saw like some TikTok. where these guys are showing like these two cards. I'm like, man, I remember when middle school
Starting point is 00:05:52 and we thought we were going to be millionaires because we had this card, it was like Harold Minor or something. Oh, yeah. Like these rookie cards where we were like, there was so much money. The thing too,
Starting point is 00:06:02 before we get into the free agency, I opened up one of those random packs that dorm dudes send a few lose because they send everybody something so it's not, nobody gets nothing. It's not full gamble. And so I opened up a couple of packs.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Usually I just give the packs to Eddie straight up. Don't even open them. Yeah, and I give them my kids straight up. Don't even open them. And so I opened one of the packs, and it was a Patrick Mahomes, Can City Chiefs Prism, 2001, something, something, something. And I was like, wait, I should look at this up and see how much it was worth.
Starting point is 00:06:32 It's worth like $130. Just in the package. That's awesome. And then I opened up another one as a Joe Burrow, Cincinnati Bengals, Prism, last sold for $80, just in the little pack they sent. And then I sent Eddie this one of Zach Wilson. It said, how much? That's funny. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:52 And you said I'd sell it to you for $100. Yeah, I said I give you $100. So just in those packs, I got very fortunate. I saved those two because we're going to send them off and get them rated. You are? Well, we're going to send off some shoes. I have LeBron shoes and KD's shoes, signed shoes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:07 And I don't have the authenticity page. The letter. I got them at a charity auction. And so the company that we're going to use, they do shoes. And so we're going to send the shoes. some cards and stuff. Can we throw in an item? I want to put in my Tony Hawk shoes.
Starting point is 00:07:26 I'd like to throw in an item. What is it? What did they say? Do we have a relationship like, hey, not yet, no. Got it. But we can go through them by just a normal process, but we're trying to deal on that. So there is no, like, friendship process. So you have to pay straight up for it. It's not even the paying I care about. I don't want it to be gone for a month.
Starting point is 00:07:46 How long is this stuff gone? It doesn't say. Well, I don't know. Specifics on that. Can you find out? I know with comics and cards, it could be up to two months. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:07:57 that's the problem. It's like, what are you trying to send off? A Joe Montana autograph picture that I've had since I was in middle school? But I don't think that's worth anything. Well, you don't know that. And if it is,
Starting point is 00:08:10 you get it graded, boom, we got thousands of dollars in our hands. You can probably find that on Google. Yeah, I think just a Joe Montana, because a picture is probably the thing you want autograph the least, right?
Starting point is 00:08:19 Unless it's of you two to get it. Oh, it's not us two together. And it's him with the chiefs, too. It's not in the 49ers. So Joe Montana autographed picture. Here's one. It's a Joe Montana Jerry Rice signed autograph 49ers 8 by 10. You get it for $9.36.
Starting point is 00:08:33 Oh, really? Here's a Joe Montana autograph legend picture. It's basically $100. And that's something you really don't have to get graded. Yeah. Oh, okay. It's just, yeah. Forget it then.
Starting point is 00:08:45 I'm out. It's all I got. I got nothing else. I have not been able to log in on TikTok because I've been locked out And then we find out why with the dorm dudes I had too much stuff ordered and they won't let you order more stuff whenever your Cue is backed up of stuff ordered So now you can't even get on TikTok? Well so no I'm getting on TikTok I just can't play the game I can't do breaks and I really
Starting point is 00:09:03 And I really wasn't looking to do breaks really but read hit me up and he's like hey he's like hey you want to do breaks And I was like I can't and he was like but are you done doing them? I said I mean To read you're like an addict dude but I was I was like no I mean I'll do I said, are you doing them? I said, okay, well, grab me the NFC East and grab me the NFC, I'll just sendie Venmo. So we did them. Why can't he do it, though?
Starting point is 00:09:25 He did. Okay. So he ran his own. He ran his account, and there were eight divisions, and we bought four of the eight. I had three, and he had one, and we lost. Wow, 50%. It's under Reed's name, we lost.
Starting point is 00:09:36 So then we did it again, and then we lost. It sounds like, we had five on that. That's because he doesn't have the Bobby Bones luck. We had five out of eight and lost. That's crazy, dude. It was. It was only because they, They only, like, they had seven or eight jerseys left,
Starting point is 00:09:50 and the guy said that he needed to fill, like, two authentic jerseys. So two out of the eight were authentic for sure. Yeah, and they were. And the two ended up being Gruncowski, and I thought Reed had the AFC East, which he did. I thought it was a Patriots jersey. It came out red, but it was a bucks red. Oh, okay. So we didn't hit that one.
Starting point is 00:10:06 And the other one was a... Andrew Luck. Andrew Luck, authentic Colts, and neither one of us had the AFC... Or NFC South, Bulls? Colts. Colts are AFC. Yeah, that's what NFC and AFC South, right? You said the Bucks and...
Starting point is 00:10:21 Yes, both South, yes. So, all right, well, Reed went over, buddy. And I wasn't doing any more breaks. Now I did breaks. Now you're back. No, I'm not back in the kid. They won't let me. Did you get, uh, read the, his clug number?
Starting point is 00:10:35 No, what did he need clug number for? I need to get that, man. What, both of you two, by the way? Who? You, and Reed. What about me? Ooh. You've both been weird.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Where yesterday on the podcast, Eddie's like, hey man. No, I won't say it here. I'll just get it. And then it turns out, do you want to know what it was? We were working out yesterday. And he's like, can I get tickets to the Arkansas SC tournament? That was it. That was it.
Starting point is 00:10:57 You pulled a me. You pulled a read. I didn't want to pull a read on Reed show. I was already taking Eddie. And he goes, I need tickets for the whole family. Well, Eddie's got like Swiss family Robinson. It's like 40 people. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:06 Six of us. And I went to the website of the venue and they're like, you can do a party with six people. So it's like I can get a discounted group like if I was taking a bachelor rep party with me. And I told Eddie, said, I don't think it's going to be hard to get tickets on day one because it's the four worst teams. And Arkansas is in that four worst teams, like, just to get tickets. And I was like, but if you want to go with me, you can, but I can't, I don't have six
Starting point is 00:11:28 tickets because we sit with the team, you know, right behind. Yeah, like we did last year. Yes. Yeah. And so then Eddie messaged me and you got six tickets. I got six tickets, dude, for 75 cents a pop. It was awesome. He's like calling his family from Texas.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Come on, dad. I felt so embarrassed because I had already called, like, a couple of people that I knew that had like sweets. And I'm like, hey man, are you guys going to use the suite for? Oh, man. And they're like, dude, you can go online. There's 75 cents a ticket because it's all general admission for the first night of the SEC tournament. It's the worst four teams. Still, though, I mean, my kids have wanted to go to an Arkansas game for so long. So I bought the tickets for 75 cents, but what's crazy is some... Sold back for 80. Made of solid. Yeah. After I did all my research on it being general admission, there were some websites trying to sell seated tickets for 150 bucks for that
Starting point is 00:12:16 But you still can buy seated tickets. No. Down below in the lower bowl. If they are the seats that you're in, like there's, I think, five rows behind the teams that are reserved for teams. Other than that, the whole arena is general admission. So, Bones, if I get there an hour early, dude, I might be sitting next to you. You won't be sitting next to me, but you could be sitting like.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Court side on the other side. Okay. I hope you get courts on. I might take the kids with me tonight and camp out. I would recommend tonight. And then you come to work and you leave them there. Bole the spot, kids. And it was kind of weird about, he was like, I don't want to say, so he brought it up yesterday working out.
Starting point is 00:12:51 And today, right before we went on, Reed's like, I want to make a proposition to you after a whistle. Yeah, that's sound weird. And I said, while he goes, at the end of whistles, I want to make a proposition. Okay. You said it like that. Okay. Do you want to do it at the end of whistles or after whistles? I mean, we can do it whenever.
Starting point is 00:13:08 It's whatever you want, man. It's whatever you want, man. At the end of whistles, we'll do it. I'm Reed. Okay. So what are we going to do? At the end of whistles. Nice.
Starting point is 00:13:20 Coming up a little bit, dorm dudes that I go and do all the breaks with from TikTok in studio. Then we go to our talk with Florida State men's basketball coach Leonard Hamilton and two guards, Darren Green Jr. and Tom House. But the reason that we are here, for the most part, is I thought we had to come on and talk about all the big moves yesterday in the NFL, especially because when we went off, there were no moves. And then as soon as we went off, it was like, bam, bam, bam.
Starting point is 00:13:42 So let's start running back first. Former Packers running back Aaron Jones, signed a one-year deal. with the Vikings. Pretty cool. One year deals are a little... You got music? Yeah, this is called Free Agent Music. Nice. And Aaron Jones is good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:55 One year deal, though. I think we're also seeing that the turn back to running backs mattering a little bit more. It's very trendy. Yeah, it's kind of... It's weird how many signed yesterday or made new deals traded, whatever. Austin Ekliffe signed a two-year deal with Washington.
Starting point is 00:14:09 I thought he's coming to the Cowboys. The thing about Echler, I think he's getting a little older, too. Yeah. Have you seen that film on him? He doesn't look very fast. And to think about Echler, too, great pass catcher. Yeah. And that's what he did in San Diego. Fantasy Beast, too, because if you're in a PPR league.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Brian Robinson Jr. is in Washington. He's good. So I wonder who's going to be the one there. Do you think it's still Robinson and Echler is... Maybe like a third down kind of guy? Maybe. Yeah, because they lost, what's the name to the Patriots? Which guy?
Starting point is 00:14:41 Antonio Gibson. Oh, yeah. And he's their pass catcher guy. Josh Jacobs signed a four-year... Your deal with the Packers, which Josh Jacobs is legit. Yeah. He just wasn't so legit because he played on the Raiders. That's why he wasn't producing.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Yeah, he'll be, oh, that's surprising, too. That should be good. Yeah. Sequin Barclay signs a three-year deal with the Eagles. It's over. It's over. It's over. What is?
Starting point is 00:15:02 The Eagles, I mean, the NFC East, it's over. I mean, the Eagles are going to dominate. They're going to be so good. He has been injured a lot in his career, although not the last two years. Last two seasons, he's been good. Yeah. But he signed financially a really good deal. and then I saw where maybe Tiki Barber was like,
Starting point is 00:15:20 you're dead to us. And he's like, bro, what did you want me to do? Like, I played in one-year deals with the last two. I mean, they were kind of stupid. It's not dumb. It was. Because it's business. If anybody knows that, it's other players.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Right. Tony Pollard signs a three-year deal with the Titans. He's coming here. To be kind of that number one and a half back. Not the one, but more than a number two. If Henry leaves, which he will. Henry's going to be gone. So he should be the number one.
Starting point is 00:15:45 No, Spears will be the number one back. Really? Yeah. Okay. I think Pollard is too. I think we saw even with the Cowboys. Shouldn't be a number one. He's not big enough to have to be durable.
Starting point is 00:15:58 We saw him in person. That boy was big. When we saw him in person, he was ginormous. In person. And I was shocked. But compared to the other people. Yeah. But we saw Zeke in person too.
Starting point is 00:16:08 And I mean, that kind of just looked normal. He's stocky, but he's not as big as Tony Pollard was. Shocked by that. Mike, would you? you keep, I think these guys are seeing weird things. Bro, did we not see it? Well, I didn't see, I didn't go with you guys when you went and saw Zay. You gave me their heights and weights.
Starting point is 00:16:23 I saw Tony Pollard in person. I see Tony Pollard all the time. He was a beast. He was just like, where? He is not that big. He doesn't look like on TV. He doesn't. But in person, we saw him next to Micah Parsons.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Yeah, exactly. Michael Parsons? Here we go. They're basically the same. Both six foot, Tony Pollard's 209. Zeke is 2225. So, okay, there's an extra 12, 13 pounds. And that's what I said, a little more husky, but I mean.
Starting point is 00:16:45 He's got a big head. Husky's a big part of it. It's not height when you're running back. But I mean, he wasn't scrawny. On TV, Tony Pollard looks shorter. Small. And fast, maybe because he's so fast. No.
Starting point is 00:16:58 He looked taller than six foot, didn't he? He did, man. I mean, he had a helmet on, I guess. DeAndre Swift signed a three-year deal with the Bears. The Bears needed a running back. You know, they were doing running back by committee, basically. Yeah. Whomever wasn't injured.
Starting point is 00:17:12 So Swift goes over to the Bears. quarterback side the big story was Kurt Cousins a four-year deal with the Falcons Big one. Big money. Good. What?
Starting point is 00:17:22 I don't know. I mean, I've always liked Cousins, don't get me wrong, but when you really look at it, like, dang, he's done really well financially. Yeah. And nothing to really prove for it. If through, he makes it all four years of this deal,
Starting point is 00:17:33 he'll have made almost a half a billion dollars, 500 million bucks. One playoff win. Sam Darnold, a one-year deal with Minnesota. Is that to be a gap quarterback? Is that, are they still going to pay? possibly trade for somebody else. I don't know the answer to that.
Starting point is 00:17:48 They don't have a quarterback. Is it just in case they don't get somebody else? It's not like they have a high draft pick either. So I don't know that Darnold, even in their mind, is a solution. But if they're going to pay Justin Jefferson all the money, which they should, somebody's got to get on the ball. And he also has a window of how many years he can be great. So that's an interesting.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Yeah, now what do they do? It's an interesting signing. I know. It's almost like an insurance. He's out there. Let's grab him right now. Yeah. Jacobi Brescett with the Patriots. Let's go. He's back.
Starting point is 00:18:19 But he'll be a backup. Two. Probably to whomever they draft. They draft. Yeah. Or they'll battle it out in camp and Jacoby starts week one to four. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's also fine.
Starting point is 00:18:29 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, they're bringing them in to be the guy that helps their next guy. For sure. But doesn't that tell you a bit as a Patriots fan that they're probably not going to draft Marvin Harrison Jr. Yeah. Like that solidifies what they're not going to do? Because you thought possibly they could get Marvin Harrison,
Starting point is 00:18:44 Jr. Especially if they go out there, well, as of right now, they're supposed to be strong getters for Calvin Ridley maybe. So, especially if they go out and get him. They brought back Kendrick Bourne. They may have good receivers now
Starting point is 00:18:56 that Belichick's gone. All of a sudden, they're picking up good receivers. I know. They're all not white. But I will say all the guys they re-signed are Belichick guys. I know, other than Randy Moss, it's like a bunch of white guys across the middle.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Yeah. I know. Yeah. The documentary, they're all white guys when you watch the documentary. Gardner Minchew, a two-year deal with the Raiders. Let's go. Which is cool for him, especially because they expect him to play.
Starting point is 00:19:20 However, there's now talking about Justin Fields may be ending up with the Raiders. If that's the case, Fields is probably the guy. But if not, Gardner Minchia is a good guy. He made the Pro Bowl also, you know, that's the Pro Bowl. Yeah. But good for Gardner Minchew. Yeah, even as a solid backup, he'd be a good backup.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Gabe Davis signed a three-year deal with the Jaguars, wide receiver. Michael Pittman Jr. staying with the Colts for three years. Kendrick Bourne signed a three-year deal with the Patriots. How do you feel about that? I like him. Yeah. I mean, he's coming off in ACL, that's what sucks, but he's a favorite.
Starting point is 00:19:51 Aren't they all? Yeah. I mean, I am. Coming off of ACLs? Yeah, I felt twice working out. You did. I jumped up on the stairs, fow, wiped out, and we're running sprang on the stairs. The regular stairs.
Starting point is 00:20:01 Yeah. Oh, yeah. Fell on stairs? Well, I just like, I mean, slipped and then we were running sprints on the treadmill, and you run, and then you have to jump off. You have to, like, put your feet on the sides? Yeah. He brings a treadmill?
Starting point is 00:20:13 No, or do you have that? Oh, you have that. I was like, in the truck. And I own stairs at the house. You really? Yeah, yeah. But I like fell off the side of the treadmill too. I'm also coming off an ACL.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Dude, he worried me. It was like a couple times. Like, you're good, dude. Yeah, I sucked it up though. Oh, you know what I mean? I show up. I get it. I show up, I show out.
Starting point is 00:20:32 What? Young Jeezy. What's that mean? Defensive line on defense just in general. Lennar Williams signs a three deal with Seahogs. Brian Burns had traded the Giants, and I thought the Panthers didn't get much. I mean, they got a third round pick,
Starting point is 00:20:43 I think. Is it a third or a second? I think second. Another trade they made, then I must be thinking about the McCaffrey trade. No, I bet there was a third. I don't know, you tell me.
Starting point is 00:20:53 But either way, I thought, wow, Brian Burns is awesome. We saw him at Camp this last year. I mean, he's a beast. He's probably the top three defensive end. And not only that, it's like,
Starting point is 00:21:04 what the Panther would get? Not much. Yeah, it was a second round pick. What did you see last year? I can remember who was, offered him two first rounders. And they said, And now they just got a second rounder.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Dang. Murphy Bonning, Bucks lines, la la la, la. It does a trade who cares. Christian Wilkins from Miami, signs a deal with the Raiders. Chris Jones,
Starting point is 00:21:25 this is a big one. He's never wonder what was going to happen with him. Signed a five-year extension with the Chiefs. Chris Jones, probably the best. Yeah, he's the man. Defensive linemen, top two or three,
Starting point is 00:21:34 or at least like an interior. And he's their Pat Mahomes of their defense. Yeah. I mean, easy. Just saying. He wouldn't go on the Hall of Fame right now. Ooh, he's right there.
Starting point is 00:21:44 He's not, he could be the leader, the best player on their, he's not the Pat Mahomes of their defense. He's the anchor of their defense. And anchor's fine, but he's not the pat my home's different than just the best player on a team. He's the best player in all of football. But he's saying like in the chief organization. I understand what he's saying, but he's saying, it's stupid what he's saying. You need to shut up.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Like Devin McCordy was the defense of Tom Brady, but he was no Tom Brady. No, he's not a defense of Tom Brady. He held that glue together. He was the glue guy, as they said. He was the guy, the leader of the defense. just like Patrick Mahomes is the leader of the defense fine, but he's not the Patrick Mahomes of the defense. There is not another Patrick Mahomes of offense or defense anywhere in the NFL. I see both sides.
Starting point is 00:22:22 He's the absolute best. He's a pinnacle. I didn't know that was going to trigger you like that. Because you're stupid like your face. But yeah, big day. Big day yesterday. I thought that was enough to come back on here. 25 whistles presented by Draft King Sportsbook,
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Starting point is 00:23:13 Our Pacers? Our Pacers? Yeah, I'm a Thunder fan, though. Yeah, we're Pacers. I am. I'm also a Pacers. I'm a Thunder fan. Those shorts that they gave us, I cannot say enough.
Starting point is 00:23:24 They're the best. They're so comfortable. Oh, yeah, they give us like the NBA stuff. They have like the mouthpiece holder inside. And the Thunder wouldn't even let us come. Wait, that's what that little pocket is? I think so. That's cool. Oh, I've been putting my Pogs in there.
Starting point is 00:23:35 Oh, my Pogs. Oh, you're Pogs. You're Pogs? You're Pogs? Yeah. This little circle things you bounce. Talking about collectibles. And then finally I'll take, man, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:50 They've changed the rules in the NBA that on the defensive rules since All-Star Break. which these guys aren't scoring a ton of points anymore because the rest of letting them play physical. And I think it's because of all those 70 point games, 60 point game, 60 point game. And it was already out of control. So some of these lines are kind of, I'm going to go, I'm just going to go Celtics Money Line at Jazz.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Celtics and Buck's Money Line and Thunder minus 6.5 in Oklahoma City versus the Pacers. Oh yeah, bank that. Bank it? Into your smile book. Straight to the bank. Straight to the smile bank.
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Starting point is 00:27:45 Yeah. In studio. You know what they look like? Did they show their faces on their brakes? Yes. Okay. They do a little circle and you see their face. But we need their names.
Starting point is 00:27:55 And I tell them this. Why? What do they mean? No, I've seen some breaks where they just see their hands. what they look like. Yeah, yeah, their faces. Oh, I knew what they look like, but I didn't know which one was which. I thought you were going to like compare them something. Me too. He's like, you know what they look like? No, no, no, no, I don't do that. They look like the dorm dudes. The guys from TikTok that host the breaks, the dorm dudes, I mean,
Starting point is 00:28:15 a lot of the stuff that I have now, my new fascination, reads new fascination are, I mean, can't get enough. It's because of the dorm dudes. We talk about how the whole idea started, their favorite thing they've unboxed. There's a controversy. I couldn't stop thinking about it yesterday. I don't want to say what it is. But when they were like, we opened this certain thing and then we were like, uh-oh. Oh, yeah. I've been so pissed if I'd have been the other one. And I will let you guys hear it without, but if I'd have been on the other side of it,
Starting point is 00:28:40 I'd have been so pissed. Because that was worth so much money. Yeah. So we talk about that a whole bunch of more. Super cool dudes. Got here early, very respectful. Yeah. Usually I think like college kids are going to come and take a dump on the place.
Starting point is 00:28:53 I mean, you picture a little punk kids doing that. No, they were awesome. And so they've built this. They're still in college too. You can follow them on TikTok. at Dorm Dudes Break and follow them and you can get in the mix
Starting point is 00:29:05 like we do. Tell them Bobby Bones sent you. Yeah, I love it. Yeah, no, literally. When you get in the line, be like, hurt those on five bones. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:11 That's awesome. All right, here they are. Dorm dudes. Come on in, guys. These are your dudes. Good to see you guys. Yeah. Have a seat.
Starting point is 00:29:18 What are the mics? Throw some headphones on and grab a microphone. I was going to check and see if you guys were online right now, not YouTube, but...
Starting point is 00:29:25 Yeah, we're kind of battling issue right now. Yeah. The TikTok shop has shut me down. But it's not, I'm not in like, got in trouble because I call my bank and I call my credit card company. And I was like, why won't it let me play? They're protecting you? It just has transaction.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Use a different transaction method. I have like 13 transaction methods now. None of them work. Are you guys dealing with some sort of TikTok shop issue? Well, we have a lot of customers that kind of experience the same thing you were. And it has to do with the products being delivered. So if you order a bunch of products on like one day and then. Oh, I do that.
Starting point is 00:29:56 I get a lot of rules. Yes. So if you have like 15 outstanding orders, as soon as they get. get delivered sometimes it'll open up your account again. Well, let's just see if I can order. Let's just see if I can get in one of these breaks. By the way, which one of you is Zach? I'm Zach.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Hey, Zach, good to see you, man. What's up, Zach? And then Shane. Cool. Okay, let's see if I can get on. I'm Bobby, Eddie. So who's breaking right now? Well, let me see if they're even online.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Okay, okay. Yeah. Because really, if they're not on, right, every once in a while, I'll get in a different one. But I got robbed once in a different place because I know I got a black Jamar Chase jersey and they sent me a custom orange one. Oh, you can't do that. Yeah. And that's, and I don't, I don't know you guys. Like, we never met or anything. I just was, they were just felt like the most honest ones.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Do you know how much money I've spent with you? A lot. We appreciate it. We have an idea. Do you do have an idea? We can't see the like actual numbers, but what do you think? I know how much it is because I called my account beforehand. How much money do you think I've spent with you guys? You can say it, whatever you think. If I'm going to take a guess, I'd probably say five. Oh, way more. More than five grand? Oh, yeah, way, way, way, way more. I'll write it down. Well, the thing is, I mean, you're also breaking with, you know, Allison and Virginia. Zach sometimes.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Yeah. Oh, you guys are all in different places? Oh, yeah. Some of us. This is how much that I have spent with just you guys. Wow. Yeah. Well, hopefully you made your money back.
Starting point is 00:31:17 No, definitely not. Is that more than five? Is that more than five? One than five? Yeah, it's a lot more than five. A little more than five. But I'm also doing like a docu series on what is the world of breaks, which is I think is so interesting. And there's an entire culture of it.
Starting point is 00:31:30 which is why I set aside a budget before I even... At first I didn't. At first I was like, this is awesome. But then I said, man, there are so many people, and I've got like this friend group on TikTok that just does breaks, and we like trade stuff. My vet I got mad because I got out of Mike Vick jersey, so I traded it for something.
Starting point is 00:31:47 And so I was like, man, this culture is so cool with the memorabilia culture as well. So we're doing a docu-series on it, but that's how much I've spent. I had that number up front that I was going to spend, and I've spent all that with you, and I spent a couple other thousand bucks with other places. So congratulations on your new car from me.
Starting point is 00:32:04 It's a fairly new. Yeah. So, again, I'm going to go see if they're breaking right now. Unfortunately, we're not on right now. Oh, boo. Because they're right here. We're dealing with something right now. Yeah, we'll handle that here soon.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Like legal? Yeah, what's going on? No, nothing legal, but... Did you break? They break the wrong thing? No, so what happens is TikTok has a lot of AI, like monitoring. Oh, they take you down? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:31 So, but we're lucky we have some good connections within TikTok, and they're working on getting that fixed right now. I was hoping they'd have it fixed by the show. So, okay, we reached out to you guys, which is how we initially made this relationship here, is that I thought it would be fun for us to do, like, a couple boxes and do our own breaks. And mostly it was because I was shooting the series, right?
Starting point is 00:32:52 I just didn't want to say that yet. And you guys were super cool. Zach was super cool, and you're like, here's how you do it. And I was like, dang, that's really cool. but Zach would be like, here's how you do what we do. And then you even said to us, TikTok doesn't allow gambling, so you have to position it in a way that it's not gambling.
Starting point is 00:33:07 What can you say about that? Because it does feel a bit like gambling. However, everybody gets something at dorm, dude, look at all these cards I got. Yeah, perfect. Is that how you get around it? Yeah, so everybody has to receive something. And, you know, when I first started this out,
Starting point is 00:33:20 some of the connections we made at TikTok, I didn't have. Bring the mic a little close up here. Sorry about that. You're good. And when I first started out, I actually got a call from one of the guys at and I looked over my girlfriend and I'm like, I'm going to jail. And they actually told me they have a bunch of lawyers that have looked into it and stuff like that. And as long as everybody gets something.
Starting point is 00:33:38 So why they shut you down right now then? So right now it was just the AI that picked up on like, so the serial number breaks that you bought in on the cards. Yeah, I love those. Yeah. Yeah, I like those a lot too. The leaf releases are very cool. But so they see the numbers and, you know, they think instantly that it's a game of chance. But they don't realize that everybody's getting something.
Starting point is 00:33:55 So we just have to reach out and be like, listen, you know, there's 10 cards in the box. and usually almost everybody hits when there's the 10 cards in the box, but if they don't, you send them a pack or a card or something like that. Hey, yeah, look, I got some right here. Yeah, there you're listening. Yeah, so explain like I'm five what you guys do on the dorm dudes TikTok account. For someone listening, that has no idea what a break is or what we're talking about. If I'm flipping through TikTok, I come upon some guys opening boxes, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:34:23 Okay, so basically on the stream, so you can, you know, if you're a fan of a team, we do team breaks or if you just want to get into a division, so you'd have a few more opportunities to hit, you could do that as well. But say you're a Steelers fan, just like that helmet up there, you could buy the Steelers in a three helmet break. We open up three helmets,
Starting point is 00:34:40 and if one of the helmets in the boxes is a Steelers helmet, you would get it. If not, you would get a card, just like we talked about. So if you buy the Steelers, though, and you open three helmets, and none of them are Steelers, you don't get a helmet,
Starting point is 00:34:52 you get the card. That's correct. And I know that, just making sure. Of course you know that. You've done that before. Oh, dude, look at all my cards I got here. A ton of cards. So, Zach, why did you start doing breaks and have you made a ton of money doing it?
Starting point is 00:35:04 Well, to be honest with you, when I first started, I was just like how you started. I was a buyer. So there was a couple other guys on TikTok that I would buy into, but they would only do like bigger breaks with a bunch of cards. So they would have like one jersey and then like nine card boxes, like boxes of expensive cards, like $300 a box. And it would always be like $200 for a team. And I would, you know, buy into a couple. I was a college student. So obviously I didn't have a ton of money.
Starting point is 00:35:28 But I would always hit a bunch of cards. And I was like, well, I'm really only buying into this for the memorabilia. So I thought to myself as like, what if we just strictly did memorabilia breaks and then did a little bit of cards, like, as we got bigger. So that's kind of where I got the idea. And I always saw people in the comment sections and they were like, is there any cheaper options? And the guy that was breaking, he's like, no, there's no money to be made there. So I was like, huh, I think we could do this with just like a couple items instead of like 10.
Starting point is 00:35:53 And that's kind of how it started. You know, I was looking for a way to pay for my school and have some phone with my friends. Hey, as it worked out. And so dorm dudes, was it literally, and Shane, I'll ask you this, were you living in a dorm? Yes. And then did Zach come to you and say, hey, man, we're going to jail for this. However, I told him, I was like, hey, man, you go down, I'm going down too. We all live in the same fraternity house.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Yeah. I mean, it's, you know, small division two. Where did you guys, or where do, are you guys still in school? Yes. Yeah. You're still in school now. I had to email my professor actually just like 10 minutes ago. Did me call?
Starting point is 00:36:26 Let me make a video message. Like, yeah. He's literally here, man. That's my accounting class. I think she'll be all right with it. So you're still in school. Where? Do you want to say?
Starting point is 00:36:34 Ashland University. Ohio, small division two and Ashland. When you say Division II, that makes me feel like you're playing a sport. Do you guys play sports there? I did quit football for this, but I told my coaches like that. You quit football to be a dorm dude? Yeah, I mean, yeah. I mean, we, you know, capitalized on an opportunity like this.
Starting point is 00:36:54 My coaches understood. I mean, I was a kicker. So, I mean, I'm hoping to go. back here soon once we can work out something. I'm like, dorm do once it comes back? That's what I'd say. Why don't you go sell your fancy little memorabilia? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Yeah, around campus, it's getting bigger. People are starting to notice and ask us questions and stuff like that, which is really cool. And we're open to, you know, talking to anybody about it and they're really interested in it. And, you know, this is still a fairly new business model as well. So who knows where this is going to go in, you know, five years. What about Zach, these boxes?
Starting point is 00:37:26 Like the, I mean, I know. all the little terms now because I'm on it so much. But like there are boxes that say like, just break it. And it's like a black box. And there's a goldie, gold box. So who puts the boxes together? And was that already happening before you guys started breaking them on the stream? So yeah, we work with a couple suppliers in Florida. And they put the boxes together. And when you reached out to us and we're asking about the Cowboys memorabilia, I was really upset because I was hoping to get you something cool Cowboys. But we truly do have no idea what's in the boxes. And that's for you know, to protect the supplier and us as well, because if they told us, you know, what was in them,
Starting point is 00:38:03 some people, just like you found on TikTok, there's dishonest people out there who would be tempted to take out the big hits. But before... Did the boxes exist before you ask for them? Yeah. So before we started breaking, they were making the boxes, and I'm not really sure what all they were going towards, because there wasn't a lot of breakers. But I remember when I first started, I would order on a Tuesday, and it would ship out on a Tuesday. Now you order on a Tuesday, and three Tuesdays from now at shipside. Really?
Starting point is 00:38:29 So they've definitely built up, and there's a lot of items that get back ordered. Like we've been waiting on those helmets for three weeks? Like the Goldies? The Goldies actually aren't on back order. We got some of those in today. I'm using their term. I'm always waiting for the Goldies.
Starting point is 00:38:44 You know, it depends. Like, I like whenever that you can bust a helmet and you got a black bag. Yeah. Because the difference is you get a clear bag. At first, I didn't know. I was just like, oh, the jersey. But if I got a clear bag, now I'm like,
Starting point is 00:38:55 that sucks. because it's not an authentic. The clear bag is a custom, but also the word custom makes you think like custom, but it's not. It's like they made it a little crappier because they didn't want to pay for the,
Starting point is 00:39:05 to have the right for the logo. Still cool. If you frame it backward, because you don't know the difference. Yeah, exactly. And it's autograph. It's a legit autograph. But the black bags,
Starting point is 00:39:13 you get one of those. It's authentic. I've only got like two. I got a Jalen Waddle black bag, which was cool from you guys. When you guys weren't on once, I got a Peyton Manning black bag. It's like a thousand bucks.
Starting point is 00:39:25 It's freaking legit. that's about the only black bags I've gotten though but I like the JBIs aren't they black bag or is the goldie black bag helmet and small helmet yeah yeah the gold boxes are like the highest tier they make so it's an authentic helmet with like the air up pads and everything in it and then it's the black bag jersey and then a big hit on the mini helmet it's supposed to be two quarterbacks out of every three items in the box
Starting point is 00:39:45 and so when you pull something really cool like a brady or a mahomes a little bit you're like just freaking awesome because we can show off how big the breaks are that we do. But a little bit, too, you're like, God, I wish I could have that. That's what I would be like. It's so difficult. Yeah, to act excited. I'd be like.
Starting point is 00:40:03 I just spent $800 on a Ben Rothesberger jersey. This guy ripped it, or Richie ripped it actually. And I just had to message the guy. I'm like, dude, I need that. Like, you don't see. Wait, you paid him who won $800 for the jersey? Yeah. So sometimes they'll direct message our account, like,
Starting point is 00:40:16 because me and Richie are avid Steelers fans. Yeah. So I have two Steelers. I'm going to sell them to you both for one. I'll tell him to you both for this amount of money right here. People know, though. They know that we're Sears fans, so some of them aren't,
Starting point is 00:40:29 obviously, if they're buying the AFC North, which I also heard you say you're not doing the brakes anymore, but I think you're going to like these new helmets we got. Yeah, yeah. I'm back in. I was trying to get... I was asking about cowboy stuff
Starting point is 00:40:41 because I never... The only stuff that I ever got was stuff I won. Like, you know, like you said, you definitely didn't know or you'd have been like, I'll help you out. The only cowboy stuff that I won is I won the Dax jersey that you've seen. I haven't seen it yet.
Starting point is 00:40:52 It was in my house. No, you were hiding it from me. I haven't seen any. It was literally in the pile of my house. I think that you hit it from me because he'd think I'd steal it. I got a Diggs, Cowboy Jersey. Both were customs, and I have this CD-LAM mini helmet. And boys, he puts it right there in front of this, so I can see it every day.
Starting point is 00:41:06 I literally was asking so they could help me so he could get something for your birthday. But they were so honest of guys, they were like, we wish we could. We just aren't going to get in the box and cheat. Okay, and then that's good. I have a question, though, about that. But do you see trends? Like, when you do get a shipment, like, you know, there are more Miami Dolphins than this shipment? It's freaking everywhere, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Oh, good. We'll try to adjust the prices, too, if we see that. Like, if we see a lot of dolphins, obviously, the price will increase. If we're not seeing, you know, Colts, for example, we'll decrease the price. Because the buyers know that as well, because they're breaking with five other people that are getting the same shipments that we are. You know what I mean? But you don't know how many, let's say if you get 50 boxes, you don't know that 12 or this,
Starting point is 00:41:45 eight or, it's just all blind as to that. It's all random. Yeah, and the company doesn't, like, some companies will do, like, a hits list and tell you, like, okay, we sent you 100 jerseys. There's one Brady in here. there's five Jalen Waddles or whatever. But the company we work with, and I'm glad they don't do this, actually, is they get new things in so fast. So, like, for example, say, C.J. Stroud has a big game.
Starting point is 00:42:04 They're going to get his jerseys in the next week. So they don't adjust that hit list each week. So, you know, you never know what's going to be in there. They get new players in there so much. It's better, too, that you don't know that because if it were down to, like, the last three and you still knew the Mahomes hadn't hit, you can just buy the three boxes. That's what I do. Smart. And, you know, we hype it up so much, so we're like, we know Mahomes is in here.
Starting point is 00:42:24 We know Brady's in here. And if it just disappeared, obviously the buyers are known. That's why we keep a lot of stuff on the screen because a lot of other breakers, they won't put it stuff on the screen. They'll just exchange the jersey or something like that. Something real greasy. Have you seen shadiness? Do you know of, I'm not going to ask you any names. Do you know of specific shady accounts?
Starting point is 00:42:41 Because I do. Yeah. Because I know I got a Jamar Chase black freaking custom or authentic and it came orange and custom. I mean, we'll have people come in our stream under like weird names, like random names and just shit on us completely. Oh, but they're trying to take you down. Yeah, it's weird. It's like, I mean, we'll have like, you know, for example, a big breaker, no doubt come in and we'll just like hype them up, you know, because we just want to, you know, share the love. Sure. We don't, we don't understand why there's like animosity.
Starting point is 00:43:04 What about people knowing what's in the box? Do you think people can secretly, do you think they ever secretly cut like the bottom and take a look? Well, that's the, so if you look at any of the boxes we've sent, so the company we get it from, you know, they tape it on the box and on the top and the bottom. So if you ever get a box and the bottom's open, then, You may be a little suspicious, but all the boxes we sent out. It's the tape directly from the company. You know, the bottom obviously is not cut. The top is because we have to open it on the stream.
Starting point is 00:43:32 But you can tell they have like the tamper evident thing on the bottom. Did you feel an influx whenever I started to talk about it? Like an actual, okay, where there are a lot of people here that heard it on whatever. Absolutely, man. Because I do like three shows. I talk about every show. Yeah. We appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:43:49 And we want to thank you for it. Oh, yeah. It's been amazing. Did you actually see a lot, people come in saying, Hey, I heard this on the Bibone show. Absolutely. Where we see it the most is one person will get in and there be like, hey, I heard you guys on the Bobby Bone Show. And then it's like the comments just start.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Oh, as soon as one says it. Yeah, like 50 people. I'm here from Bobby too. I'm here from Bobby too. Well, because I literally love it. I mean, there's it. Really, if I was like, oh, you got to check this account out and it felt like a commercial. But like, you guys haven't paid me.
Starting point is 00:44:15 I actually have paid you. I paid him this much. But it's the most fun. We would do breaks live on the air. Like, we would just turn it on. I don't know if it was fun for everyone else but we had a blast doing it. We would be working out when I first discovered it
Starting point is 00:44:27 and we have a gym at my house and I have a big screen and I would turn the break on while we're working out with our trainer and I would just, I would buy it and we'd keep it and work out and watch it the whole time. It made the workout fly by it.
Starting point is 00:44:37 It was awesome. But what's cool about you guys though is the name dorm dudes. Like that sticks and it's easy like you mentioned a big famous breaker a second ago. I don't remember what that was and you said it like two minutes ago.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Dorm dude sticks dude and that's awesome like that's huge for you guys. Absolutely. Yeah, we appreciate it. And that strictly came because, you know, like we said, we started in a dorm and then we got kicked out of the dorm. But that's where it started. Do you guys have, who all is breaking? There's one guy like, this would be my recommendation, who needs my recommendation.
Starting point is 00:45:07 But you should put your names up, like a name tag on the main screen so we can know who we're like with and we like form this relationship with. Even though we don't know you, we're like, oh, Zach's on. Like that would be the thing because I never know. There's only the one dude with the beard sometimes when I get on. He's kind of like a big dude with a beard. I like him. I already know his name though. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Ryan Kern. We call him Kern. I would put names up. That way we just have, it again takes us and takes us connection we have to a different level. It's like, my favorite dorm dude is Zach. And then Eddie's like, he's nothing compared to Shane. I like Shane. Wait till you guys see the trading cards.
Starting point is 00:45:47 We're coming out here soon. Why is your name on them? Are they about you? One of one, Zach Baylor. that's what I want. I have, and so I started to do memorabilia myself. And so I got Kenny Chesney to sign four
Starting point is 00:45:59 live jackets. Oh, wow. Wow. So what I'm trying to do is start my own memorabilia line. Check this up. A funco of me. That is awesome. Zero of zero. I haven't even signed it yet? Zero. Got a whole thing going. Have you made a good, have you made, Zach, have you done pretty good?
Starting point is 00:46:15 Yeah, it's definitely helped me pay for my school and my friends as well, which is what I'm most thankful for. I'm a very, like, family. Same with me. All these are my friends from years and years. Eddie and I have been friends, best friends for... Forever, man.
Starting point is 00:46:28 Like, how long have we worked together, though? I mean, we've worked together for... Like 12? I'd say, like 16 years, man. Oh, we did before. Yeah, so... And like, the other guys, Amy and Lunchbox, I've been with them for 18, 19 years,
Starting point is 00:46:39 so very much that same element. And so for you to do that is pretty cool. Okay. Is this your only job is this, right? Yeah. I know you have an office, too. You moved and you have your own. So you must be doing good enough.
Starting point is 00:46:51 that you need your own space now. Well, tell them. Yeah, that's kind of a funny story, to be honest with you. We would have stayed in the dorm, but about a month ago, the residence life coordinator came on we were actually live. And it gave us a little knock on the door, and, you know, everybody in the house knows not to, like, mess with the... No, you're good.
Starting point is 00:47:12 I was talking to him. The producer, yeah. Everybody knows kind of not to mess with the door when we're streaming. So we kind of open it up, and she's like, what are you guys doing? Running a business. Yeah. And we were like, oh, we're actually live right now with 150 people watching us.
Starting point is 00:47:25 And she was like, no, that's not going to fly. So luckily, yeah, luckily I had made a lot of connections with the business office at the school. And they're like, oh, we don't want you guys to like stop. Like, this is awesome. And they had been telling a bunch of people who were like thinking about coming about it. So they had an extra, like, building. And they were like, you guys can use this as a lot. Oh, that's cool.
Starting point is 00:47:46 Yeah. But probably not as much as you'd pay for like a legit. No, I wouldn't say so. Can I invest in dorm dudes? Yeah, we can probably talk about that. Because with investment would be, I mean, I just talk about crap. Yeah, yeah. That'd be awesome.
Starting point is 00:48:02 Because we're going to do it. We're going to do it for like a little bit and then ours is, but also we're going to get kicked off. I mean, you guys have a real account and you got kicked off. We'll get kicked off in one minute because mine's going to say, let's gamble. Here's a couple clubs of me winning in the last few days. Mike, we hit one of those. Here we go. And on the buyback.
Starting point is 00:48:21 We have, Bo Jackson, 13 of 25, 13. That belongs to Mr. Bobby Bonn card auto. Wow, Mr. Bobby Bones, congratulations, man. 1985. Wow. Heisman hero, 1985. The thing is a 1991 card. Bobby Bones, congratulations, man.
Starting point is 00:48:41 If Mr. Bobby Bones can trust us, so can you guys. That's right. There you go. I wouldn't. I wouldn't even know these dudes. That's a catchphrase. And I was sampling everybody. Yeah, get that patented. Yep.
Starting point is 00:48:52 Here you go. Feels like a funco pop, guys. Feels like a funco pop. Let's see who we have. Let's see what we got, guys. Stefan Diggs. Stefan Diggs there for the bills. That is a sweet hit right there.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Stefan Diggs for those Buffalo Bills. That's the AFC East. That's going to Mr. Bobby Bow. Who is that? Who is that? That's Ellison. He's in Virginia, actually. And he graduated last year.
Starting point is 00:49:21 So he went out to get a job and I actually called him. And I was like, hey, I think I have a little bit better of an opportunity here for you, less hours and everything. So you can pay him a salary that he was going to make on his job? Yeah. Oh, my God. That's amazing, man. Technically, we're a subcontract. So I can write off stuff, you know, I can do different things.
Starting point is 00:49:36 We're not technically employed. Amen. I get it. That's what I'm doing, you don't think I'm writing this crap off from my documentary series. Good job, guys. That's awesome. Dude, that is wild. Yeah, congratulations, guys.
Starting point is 00:49:45 It really is cool what you've been able to do and that I even noticed the brand of it. because you flip around, once you're like one, they just send you a hundred of them. But again, I've sampled most of them, and it just isn't as good. It doesn't feel as honest.
Starting point is 00:50:03 You know, you've been super cool to me. They sent a bag up for us to open once. Remember that one? That was awesome. We were all hype in the back room. Yeah, it was cool. I wish it would have been a better hit for you, though.
Starting point is 00:50:14 You know, me too, but that's always the case. Hey, do you guys think that Bobby's just the luckiest dude ever? No, look how much money I was spent. No, no, no, no. Really? Honestly, when he gets on there, I hope he hits every time because I know he's going to talk about it. That's good business.
Starting point is 00:50:28 But he can't even help me because I tried, like, help me out with some Cowboys, even if you have any. And he's like, I wish I could, but I can't. And I know that suck to say, but it was the most honest answer that I could have got. That made me actually feel good about working with you guys or working. No, just spending money like everybody else. All right. Well, I mean, I don't even know.
Starting point is 00:50:47 What's your favorite thing you've unboxed, except you can't do personal Pittsburgh. items. It has to be something that's not your favorite team. And then we'll do favorite team, but something you open and you were like, oh my God, I can't believe it. I'll probably say I've ripped a couple actually out of the black just break. It's the salute to service buccaneers, Tom Brady helmets are just sick. Full size? Full size. I love those things. And they're in the black just brackets. People sleep on the blackest. And then what do you think that could go for if you listen to it on eBay? Three, four thousand? Yeah, maybe. And people, somebody paid like 90 bucks for it. Yeah. And what about your favorite break?
Starting point is 00:51:21 My favorite hit, it was a Tom Brady helmet, but it was split. Half bucks. I saw that on your TikTok. So, you know, that helmet goes for some big money. I saw that on like their feet, not even they're live. Like, I follow them. So it's like on their, they posted it on their feed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:35 But the problem with that helmet is who does it go to? Oh, you're right. We've had a lot of issues with that. Oh, man. What did you do? So we had to. Let me explain. If it was a division one, and let's say you pick the AFC East, okay, that's the Patriots.
Starting point is 00:51:51 But the NFC South is the Bucks. Exactly. Or if you just picked the Patriots and it was a team. That's easy. You split the helmet in half. What did you do? So we can't call it this on a live, but it's a randomizer. Like you just go on randomizer.
Starting point is 00:52:04 And we put in both team names. That was the only way we could do it. And a lot of people in the comments are like, well, it should go to the team he played for longest. It should go to the box. Oh, you could have done it anyway. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what we said.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Or the side that he signed on, which we can't do because one time we had a sign right on the middle. Yeah. So did you guys have to create any rules because of that? Because you learned a lesson there? Yes. You've got to stay consistent. Yeah. And what's the rule on that?
Starting point is 00:52:28 We always do the name picker, the randomizer. Do you just do it once? Three times. Do you show the randomizer? We show the result, but that's another thing with TikTok. That's what can get you caught because they think it's gambling when they see the randomizer. Oh, man. So where did it go?
Starting point is 00:52:44 What did it go? Yeah, who got it? We got it. Patriots or the books? I think that one went to the Patriots. And a lot of people were actually happy about that because there was like 30 people in there arguing about how he played for the Patriots longer. I would just cut the stream and never go back. I just retire, keep the helmet.
Starting point is 00:53:01 One that I hit last week when you guys weren't on, I hit a authentic Denver Broncos, Peyton Manning and John Elway Super Bowl helmet, both of them. And as soon as I bought it, somebody offered me $3,500 for it. As soon as I bought it in my DMs. So I was like, well, let me go see what it's worth. And I couldn't find another exact one of that. but I found one the exact helmet was like Just Peyton Manning was going for $2,000. So 3,500 is probably pretty fair.
Starting point is 00:53:27 I mean, you probably get it for whatever. But when you get those crazy ones like that, do they sign 100 of those? Or sometimes there's only five that exist? And why would that company put those really cool ones in a box and not just sell them straight up? Do you even know the answer? I don't even know the answer?
Starting point is 00:53:44 I mean, there's got to be hits in it. You know what I mean? There's got to be hits in it for people to want to get it. Sure. nobody's going to, you know, there's no Tom Brady in it. People aren't going to, you know, look for Tom Brady. Yeah. So I think that has a big deal with it.
Starting point is 00:53:55 I know there's some, so there's a Tom Brady salute to service. It's actually, I think it's a Speedflex, exactly like the one you have sitting there. Speedflex would be a small one? No, no, the Arkansas helmet there. Oh, got it, got it. But I know he numbered it. So he numbers each autograph like one of 25, two of 25. So you know.
Starting point is 00:54:14 But that's the only item I think I've seen like that, which obviously that adds to the value. you. But as you said, you know, with the Peyton Manning, you have a hard time determining the value because there's not that many out there. It's the same with the cards as well. Well, they made me pay insurance on the shipping. It's the only time I've ever had to do that because the guy's like, I can't ship this. I'm not going to ship it normally because if it doesn't get there, that's a $4,000 helmet. So it was no money. It was like $20. So I was happy to do it and we tracked it and everything. But he's like, if I just put this in the ship it in the mail, I won't feel good about sending $4,000 in a helmet over. And I thought that was
Starting point is 00:54:46 legit. A good man. Yeah, good man. Do you ever, do you ever, worry about stuff not getting to people? Absolutely. We ship out about 700 packages a day. God. Yay. Amazing. Yeah. So, so naturally, you know, you have a few packages that don't get there. But the most frustrating part is we have people sometimes that will message to be like, hey, my package never got here. But the tracking number will show that it was like delivered. They're liars. Yeah. Or they got porch pirated. Exactly. But that's not on you guys. No. I mean, sometimes it shows up, like it'll say it delivered and then show up a day later. So a lot of people have that.
Starting point is 00:55:18 Do you know when people are lying? Has there been certain people that've tried it multiple times? Well, you know, it's hard to tell. I had a guy the other day said his package didn't show up at five. And then he was like, oh, I've been waiting three weeks on this and never showed up. And then he messaged back two hours later and it showed up. After I told him I was going to like investigate into it. So either like a crazy coincidence happened and it got delivered or something was going on there.
Starting point is 00:55:40 Have you thought about because, again, a lot of your revenue income, even for your friends, depends on if TikTok doesn't take you down, right? Yeah. Have you thought about building this model out into a place where it's not completely reliant on the ownership of another entity? Oh, well, I mean. Because if so, if not, let's go. I'm all part of it.
Starting point is 00:56:04 Let's build it. I mean, there's been stuff in the news about like, you know, potentially TikTok getting banned and stuff like that, which, you know, we've seen that a couple months ago. But there is another platform, the Fanatics Live, you know, we work closely with Fanatics as well. So, I mean, they shoot you viewers. They have, I mean, there's no randomizer, stuff like that. Let's go. Yeah, TikTok's very successful because they, you know, they throw a ton of viewers and they really help out with the shop.
Starting point is 00:56:26 Are you guys part of the Chinese government? Just Zach. Just making sure. Well, listen, I'm a big fan of dorm dudes. Again, I've spent money with them. Never got anything for free, but I think that's what makes this the most honest part of. Well, no, they sent a bag up here. I'll be honest.
Starting point is 00:56:43 That was free. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm saying, like, they didn't say, like, we'll pay you to be. on your show. We literally pursued them to have communication about how we could launch our own channel very briefly. And Zach was super cool. And I was like, dang, he's so cool. And like, we'd be doing the same thing. Not competing
Starting point is 00:56:57 because it's wide open space. But I thought that was super cool. And were you guys driving up from Florida? Yeah, we actually have some suppliers in Florida that we meet with quite often. And then it was our spring break as well. So we hung out for a few days, kind of enjoyed the sun. Nice. Took a little break. And then a few of our guys are still
Starting point is 00:57:15 back streaming. But what's your favorite memorabilia that you have that is personal. So you're a Steeler fan. It's probably my Ben Rothesberger that I just got Nike Vapor Elite. It's got the cuff sleeves and everything. A couple inscriptions on it. It's badass. That's cool. What about you? So how this actually started for me when I was a kid, I was always go to games and I would buy like $5 seats, Brown Stadium because, you know, the Browns were not good. So seats were terribly cheap. And I would always go down to the very front row before the game and stand there by the locker room and try to get players to sign my stuff.
Starting point is 00:57:48 So I actually got a game ball signed by Cam Chancellor when they were playing the Seahawks. That's probably my favorite item because that's kind of what started it for me. He signed it like tossed it to me. And I was like, wow. We do a sports show where we travel around and last year we went to the Panthers
Starting point is 00:58:02 and again, the signature is not that good because we just had our own marker and we stole their ball because we were on the field with them. And this is a Frank Wright and Bryce Young ball. Wow. Wow. So, but again, we just, we stole the ball because we were down there.
Starting point is 00:58:17 And then we were like, hey, we signed our ball. And they were like, and so we were doing, we were hanging out with, they signed it. What's that kind of ball called? Like, it's not white. It's the Duke. The Duke. The Duke. I got out of the Duke, Brett Favreve, like straight, no white signed.
Starting point is 00:58:32 But then I just feel bad for people in Mississippi. I know. You know? Like, I wonder if he's signing like extra now because he's in trouble. He needs money now. Yeah. So I've always liked merch and memorabilia. And this is a, I don't know anything about racing.
Starting point is 00:58:45 I don't know if you guys know the last card. This is Joey Logano. People will come and hang out in our studio, and we'll just have them sign some stuff. And I bought a bunch of dolly and Chris Stapleton Funkos, and I know them both, so I'm just going to have them sign a bunch of them. Heck yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:59 Because you can't find signed ones. And then I'll just give, I'm just going to donate all the money to charity that we make from them. But yeah, no, I'm totally in. And we're big fans. And as soon as TikTok, what happened? You dropped the softball. Softball.
Starting point is 00:59:14 That's okay. First home run. That softball, I had a home run a couple weeks ago at Florida State. Yep. And they gave me the ball. How was that, by the way? It's awesome. It's great.
Starting point is 00:59:21 Today our Florida State basketball episode's up. We did a big opening too on our, because now this show that we do here is also on the Draft Kings TV network. So it's in a few different places. But we did this where we opened up a bunch of stuff. And I've won so much. I've also lost so much. I forget what comes in the mail.
Starting point is 00:59:42 And so it's like I'm re-breaking. Even though you want. I'm like, look at it. So, yeah, you guys, keep doing what you're doing at Dorm Dudes Break. Do you have Dorm Dudes Break 2, Dorm Dudes Break 3, just in case? We do, I don't know if you guys are baseball fans, but we do have Dorm Dude Dugouts now. And that'll be, we'll have sign jerseys, sign bats, sign baseballs, like actual baseball. That's a cool name too, dude.
Starting point is 01:00:04 I know you got a lot of jerseys. Dorm dude dugouts. Dorm dude dugouts. And then we're also working on Dorm Dudes dunks. So we're going to try and get into some basketball. Basketball jersey last night. I want to Where did you just get that back?
Starting point is 01:00:17 Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. They weren't on. No, I can't do transaction. Hey,
Starting point is 01:00:22 hey, they don't have stuff. Listen. Hold on. I found the way to do. Last night, the guy wasn't doing TikTok shop.
Starting point is 01:00:27 You could do Venmo, which is very confusing. But he was like, call a team out and then Venmo me. And I was like, why not? I never seen a basketball one before. So I did one basketball one.
Starting point is 01:00:37 I won a... What was your team? Pacers. Because we went there. Yeah. I won an authentic Halliburton sign jersey. And I won. I only got in for one team because there's like two teams left.
Starting point is 01:00:47 And I won that jersey for $33. And I looked it up and it's like a $550 jersey. Hey, but he's not lucky, guys. Don't worry about that. Did I need to show you? I never showed you. You know how much I've spent. But I've spent a bunch.
Starting point is 01:01:00 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're going to sign this bat for dorm dudes, Eddie. Okay. We got so much stuff from them. We're going to send them back with this. That's awesome. Yeah, you guys have it. How far is the drive now?
Starting point is 01:01:10 About six and a half more hours. Will you go straight from here and just back in the car? Yeah. They got class tomorrow. work. We do have a Get Back to Work sticker with Zach if you're subscribers. Get back to work. That's this big thing. Do you guys make money off subscriptions? Yeah. Why would I subscribe? So the subscription thing, we do a monthly giveaway to subscribers. So how we explain it is it's basically like getting into a break each month, but it's only $3 a month. So instead of paying $39 or $38 for a division, you're just paying $3.
Starting point is 01:01:37 And we put all the subscribers name in a hat, pull it out. So like last month, we gave away a Patrick Mahomes jersey. It was actually my personal one of my favorite jerseys and we were in Florida meeting with the suppliers and one of the guys gave away my Patrick Mahomes jersey. But hey. Wait, did you know, you were giving away the Patrick Mahomes jersey? No, I didn't know until I tuned
Starting point is 01:01:57 into the live and saw my Patrick Malm's jersey. Oh my God. Salute to service too. Oh, yeah. Oh, man. We've got an auction here. Do you want the Duke signed football? That's not the Duke. This is the encore. Whatever this crap is. That's the Wilson
Starting point is 01:02:13 Or the bat To the dorm booth What were you put in your office? The football may be smaller and easier Honestly Or you can have Or it's the Louisville slugger Hey that's a little dude
Starting point is 01:02:23 Yeah let's do the football Let's do the football Alright Because the bat's just gonna Should throw that thing away We'll just have that way Okay Two
Starting point is 01:02:31 Our Dorm dudes Best Dudes Dude this pin sucks Hold on Oh boy Do you ever
Starting point is 01:02:39 I don't know It may show better on the red bat. I don't know. Listen, you can have both. Two, but it's too late. I already started signing this one. Two are best dudes.
Starting point is 01:02:53 I don't even know what that means, Eddie. They're best dudes. Out of all the dudes, they're the best. Zach's guy, best prices, best dudes on the back of me. You want to sign this? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Marker. You have a marker?
Starting point is 01:03:03 Yeah, here, throw them both. I got to go under the lighting, though. Hold on, hit me. This is going to be terrible. I got to go under the lighting. Oh, my God. Oh. We did it, though. It's here. It's here.
Starting point is 01:03:13 It made it. Give me that marker. Oh, my God. All right. We just stored the studio. Over a $20 football. Anything else from you guys? I want to know about the boxes. Do you guys have any, like, say, as far as why they designed the boxes to look like waffles and fruit loops?
Starting point is 01:03:30 Right, right. And Cheetos. Flaming Hot Cheetos. We honestly have no idea what the theme is for that. We don't know why the theme is that. But, I mean, it works. It does. I mean, it catches Maya.
Starting point is 01:03:39 Every time I see it, I'm like, are they, like, a let's go. It's like a Lego. Yeah. And I remember them. The waffles have either a funco, a football, which is like the worst thing, right? The three, you really don't want the white football. I got a few of those.
Starting point is 01:03:52 And then, or, no, I got a Barry Sanders. Yeah, I remember ripping that. I was like, I'm not doing any more, let's go. I'm out. That was a personal as well. Unless it's good. And he opens up and it's a Barry Sanders signed figurines. It's pretty awesome.
Starting point is 01:04:02 It's funny. He was like, I'm the most unlucky guy in the world. Exactly. And I was like, just get a personal then. And then I message Barry Sanders, because he follows me on ticked on Twitter. That's nice. And so I messaged him
Starting point is 01:04:12 and then he didn't respond. Of course. Yeah, I was like, Hey man, I got your signed figure. Hey, who are you? He's seen to me. It says seen and no response. Barry Sanders seen.
Starting point is 01:04:23 Left on red by Barry. You couldn't even like it. I know. I know. Okay, cool. Good question. Read anything? You don't have to ask anything.
Starting point is 01:04:30 You don't have anything. No, I mean, I think it's amazing what we all are doing. We appreciate it. They're not curing cancer. I mean, it feels like that. No, it doesn't. You're giving hope to a lot of people,
Starting point is 01:04:40 especially people that stopped. Eddie? Gambling. Yeah, I want to know about the shipping. Like how much money do you spend on shipping? Dude. Is that the biggest? We have about eight shippers.
Starting point is 01:04:49 Yeah, the shipping is a nightmare. That's, you know, when we get off the stream, because we stream almost 24 hours a day, the only time we're not streaming is 4 a.m. to 8 a.m. unless we're dealing with what we're dealing with right now. But the shipping guys are up all night. And then we switch off to another person during the day. And it's just...
Starting point is 01:05:06 How many people are on your team? So we have, I think, six. streamers and then six shipping people. Wow. But the shipping people rotate big time. It's an operation.
Starting point is 01:05:17 That's legit. All right, you guys follow at dorm dudes break and they're the best if you're into breaks. They're our dudes. They're our best dudes. We almost broke a light for them.
Starting point is 01:05:26 We appreciate it. All right, thank you guys. All right, thanks to the dorm dudes. March mania's here. Eddie's begging for tickets. Yeah, I am. He gets up for 75 cents a pop, though. I got my own tickets.
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Starting point is 01:09:35 and to have that guaranteed human promise behind it really makes it wise to the top. Listen to math and magic, stories from the frontiers and marketing on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Now, we're going to go over. We sat, we shot, we dribbled at Florida State. Yeah, that was fun. I think they can win their first round of the AC tournament. They'll have to run into North Carolina, though, if they do.
Starting point is 01:10:04 Good look. Which is going to be tough. Yeah, they're so good. But this is our sit down with Florida State men's head coach Leonard Hamilton. you can watch our whole show Too Much Access. Just go over to Mr. Bobby Bones or Too Much Access.com. But Coach Hamilton was awesome. Welcoming from the second that he walked in.
Starting point is 01:10:19 He's beloved there. Here he is. Coach, first and foremost, I do want to talk about music because I know that's passion of yours too. Why is gospel music a passion of yours? Well, in the first place, I never lived more than 40 yards from my church growing up. And that's part of our culture.
Starting point is 01:10:39 Every time the door open, we were in it for something. Sunday school, Bible school, B.T.U. Vacation Bible School. The Irishaboard, the children's choir, the youth choir, the fellowship choir. It was just kind of part of what we enjoyed. We were actually going to sing for Sunday service, go two programs in the afternoon, come back and do evening service, and the program at night. That was kind of a way of life for us.
Starting point is 01:11:07 And it's part of who I am, what I enjoy, what I enjoy, what I'm. I believe in. And I think that attending in that kind of church and kind of community that environment, it gives you a moral compass that sometimes when you face with those decisions where you can do one or the other, your moral compass kind of keeps you kind of grounded and allows you to make better decisions. So that's kind of part of my life. How I grew up and I wouldn't change anything.
Starting point is 01:11:38 if I can just keep it completely real with you. So I grew up in a town and there was a white quarters and there was a black quarters and I would go to the black church like once a month. And I was at the white church like three weeks out of it. But when I would go across the street to the black church, it was way more singing. It was way more fun. And not only that, if I went and we started at nine, I may not get out to 23 or three. So I knew it was like an investment and I was tired. It was like I worked out.
Starting point is 01:12:04 It was like a long, it was definitely more passionate. it, and, like, white church was good, and you got the message. But when we went across the street, like, that's where, like, love was. Like, that's community, but also sweat. Well, I look at it as fun, enjoyable, praising and worship. But similar to a pet rally. Once they start the devotion early in the morning at first thing, it's own. Can you sing?
Starting point is 01:12:35 Like, did you learn to sing in church? Like, do you still sing now? Well, I'm really good in the shower. Me too, same. I'm not going to ask you to sing, but like. You do sing? No, not really, but, you know, my wife always cringes when I'm in public trying to sing. Mine too, but you're probably there.
Starting point is 01:12:56 But your wife's not here today, Coach. Okay, let me hit you something for you. I really love the Lord. Oh, I really love the Lord. That's all I want to do. I worked on American Idol for four years. I'd have put you through. I'd have been like you're a little out of the age class.
Starting point is 01:13:23 Like 26 was like the max. But I've been like, you know what? I'm going to put you through anyway. Hey, coach is going to Hollywood. You're going to Hollywood, coach. You're going to Hollywood. You had a game last night. You guys beat Boston College.
Starting point is 01:13:34 What do you do when? or lose? Like, what is the night like after a game? Well, for me, it's either, you're either happy or you're unbelievably sad. You know, coaches, we try to put on that front, you know, where everything's even killed because you don't want, your kids kind of emulate the feelings of the coach. But when you lose a game,
Starting point is 01:13:59 it's almost ridiculous how low you feel. And then it's all so interesting how good you feel when you win. I just try to keep things in perspective because it's only one game. And one thing about being in the ACC, one thing about being in the ACC, if you lose, you've got another game
Starting point is 01:14:21 coming right down the pike, and when you win, you can't be able to so excited because you know another tough opponent is right around the corner. So that's the life of a coach. You're taking teenagers and irishing them into young adulthood. So you have to be mindful of fact that everything you do is helping these guys develop into young adulthood.
Starting point is 01:14:43 And so you have to manage regards to how you feel as a coach. Sometimes you have to take that in consideration. You play it off well, Coach, because I was going to say that you look like one of the calmest coaches out there during the game. And I was going to ask you, now that you tell me, like, no, no, no, there's a lot of emotions going on during the game. How do you decompress when you get home? Like, what are the steps to that? When I was at Oklahoma State, my mother, who was 97 when she passed, she used to watch all my games, and she called me when she said,
Starting point is 01:15:12 Leonard, you look like, you're going to have a heart attack. And that really bothered me that I was expressing myself in a way that it looked not stable. And so I've always tried to maintain an even kill, regardless of whether we're playing well, regards to what we're playing bad, because it influences the mindsets of your players. What's the standard? Vague, broad question,
Starting point is 01:15:41 but what's a standard for Florida State basketball? Well, we've tried to develop a culture that allows us to be successful. My journey has been taking over programs that need a little fixing up. I went to Oklahoma State. They hadn't been in the postseason tournament in 27 years. And how I got to that point, Miami, they didn't even have basketball for 13 years.
Starting point is 01:16:05 Then it came back as an independent. And Florida State had been inconsistent. That's been my odyssey, you know, me going on and taking over problems and building. But when I was at the University of Kentucky for 12 years, there was a time when I'm sitting there and wondering, what kind of job do I want? So I'm looking at those jobs in great locations with great facilities, with great support. and thinking that that's where I want to be. And I remember like it was yesterday, it looked like the Lord reached down from heaven and slapped me
Starting point is 01:16:38 on both sides of my face, bam, bam. And I got that vision. You said, those problems don't need you. So I started getting excited about programs that need to be built. And so the program that was down the lowest, in my opinion, was the best. job for me. And so I had an opportunity to go in and create, develop, and maintain.
Starting point is 01:17:06 What was North Carolina basketball culture, like living in the state where you grew up? What was that culture for you like as a kid, seven, eight, 12 years old? Well, in the first place, I was always excited about watching ACC basketball. But there was a time when African-American players didn't have an opportunity to go to the ACC. So I think in the mid-60s, when you had Charlie Scott that was at Longburg Institute that had committed to North Carolina, you had Mike Malloy, who was at Davidson with Left to Giselle. It started to change. And I was telling someone the other day, Davidson's freshman team in Longberg Institute prep school team were playing the Charlotte, Colorado, Sim, and packed the place because it was something new. And so you credit Dean Smith for having the initiative and the mindset of realizing that it was opportunity for,
Starting point is 01:18:01 it was time to give black folks an opportunity to play in the ACC. And he doesn't get enough credit for that part that he played in integration. And that gave you in your mind, like, I can now shoot for that because no one else had prior to that? Well, I always My father went to the ninth grade My mother went to the seventh grade And they always complained About them having a ceiling and a cap
Starting point is 01:18:31 On what they could do with their lives Because they didn't have their education My father always complained About Him having to train people with college education To do their job But he couldn't make the same money They did doing so
Starting point is 01:18:47 He was always emphasizing Getting their education And that was my primary goal. I wanted to set the example for my brothers and sisters and my family. So me going to college and getting my degree, I adopted my brother Willie. He goes to college. He gets his degree. He marries a girl.
Starting point is 01:19:04 He meets in college. And both of his kids go to college. Then I adopted my brother Barry. He went to college. I adopted my sister Pam. She went to college. Her son goes to college. My brother John was too old for me to adopt.
Starting point is 01:19:17 But his kids goes to college. I'm saying it changed the whole culture of our family. So for me to be focused really on getting my education, everything else is gravy from that standpoint. What about when you talk to parents of kids now? Is that a big focus when you speak to the parents? Like you feel like education is such a priority along with obviously the basketball, but that's something they'll have forever? Well, at Florida State, I think I've been here going on 22 years somewhere.
Starting point is 01:19:44 I've only had two guys not graduate in our program. that have gone to school with me for four years. So I'm very proud of that. From a personal standpoint, I try not to talk about the accomplishments that we've had, but I will promote that because I think that, like me, so many of these youngsters are first-generation college students, and it sets the table not only for them in their life,
Starting point is 01:20:12 but for their siblings and for people that's in their family. Coach, when I played in college, I'm just joking. I didn't play anything in college. Oh my God. When I played in middle school, coach. Harder to make cards in college, coach. That's about it. I didn't get a lot of playing time, but I always thought that if I sat next to the coach,
Starting point is 01:20:29 I'd be, you know, front of mind and he'd put me in as soon as he looked over like, you go. But that never worked out. So I'm watching, you know, your bench. Is there an order that people are sitting on that bench? No, not really. Otherwise, I like to try to sit in the middle. You know, one of my coaches like sitting on the end.
Starting point is 01:20:46 I find myself standing up more than sitting down because everybody starts standing up but I can't see what's going on to court. But I think you also can communicate better with your players. The gyms are very, very large, I mean, large gems with a lot of cheering fans. So, you know, I stand up most of the time and sometimes you need to be able to communicate
Starting point is 01:21:14 with the guys a lot better. And I also think, every once in a while you have to whisper in the ear of the referees, officials, to make sure they're getting everything right. And whisper, you don't really mean whisper. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My whisper, just so you know, you don't really mean whisper. I feel like the coach's box or the area that you're allowed to stand. And sure, there's the area, but I feel like they're shrinking where you guys are.
Starting point is 01:21:37 How do you feel about it? Because I feel like you could roam a bit as long as you weren't in the way, but now they're just like, boom, tech. I am the worst. I find myself almost sometime down and the other coaches bench and sometimes I'm out on the floor and the referee's running over me
Starting point is 01:21:54 and I should be on the sideline. Sometimes you lose it, no doubt about it. You get emotional. It's very interesting that everybody in the stands are jumping up and down. The cheerleaser cutting flips, the band's playing, and they want the coaches to sit out in the chair.
Starting point is 01:22:11 That doesn't make sense to me. This season, you know, you still have the tournament to come up, you have some more conference games to play this season. Like, what's the ceiling for you guys? Well, right now, we've been consistently inconsistent. And a lot, normally I have a team of juniors and seniors and seniors that were freshmen and sophomores. So they're a little more ingrained and understand what you need.
Starting point is 01:22:35 This year, with the way college basketball is now, with the transfer of portal and the NIL and all those other things that kind of is shaping who we are in our business, you don't have as much experience on your team. So it's been a little challenging us with basically new guys trying to compete. And so what we have to do, we won the last game we played,
Starting point is 01:23:02 but we need to get more consistent in what we do. You're never going to have more talent than anybody in the ACC. Everybody's talented. It's got great coaches, great fans. So you have to find your niche within your culture to be consistent. And it's hard to develop a culture when you always got a influx of new players. All right. Final three questions.
Starting point is 01:23:24 Which player in your history of collegiate ball have you given the biggest green light to? At any time. Who's the one player that you more than ever were like, if you got it, you can shoot it if you feel good? Well, if you look back at my career, you know, I've been very, very fortunate to have so many good players from Austin P, going to the two NCAA tournaments for the first time in the school, University of Kentucky.
Starting point is 01:23:50 Gosh, nine conference championships, four-final fours. I've been so blessed. But you have to be, that's a question that's challenging the answer, because everybody has a different skill set. And a lot depends
Starting point is 01:24:06 on your system and how a guy integrates into your system. And when you start choosing one, you very well could choose 10. We'll call some guys drive better, some guys pass better, some guys shoot better. And so there are so many intricate parts that allows you to win. Three point green lights. Oh, geez. Now we get that down to that.
Starting point is 01:24:34 I'll make it easier on you. You're making it. You know, I had a kid. I named Tim Pickett that was when I first got here. And he was a tough shot taker and a tough shot maker, you know. And then Al Thornton came in
Starting point is 01:24:53 and he ended up being a poor shooter as a freshman, ended up shooting 40% from 3. I'm not trying to avoid the question. It's just that I don't know if I've ever had anybody who I totally felt comfortable giving them the green light to. Control freak, huh? My wife thinks that. If you ask you my wife, she might tell you that.
Starting point is 01:25:19 Coach, Bobby's my best friend, you know, as like a brother, you know, like a brother. We're not married. We're just best friends. No, just best friends. I'm glad you straightened that out. Yeah, yeah. But, you know, like, I can tell Bobby, like, hey, man, you, you suck at basketball.
Starting point is 01:25:31 You don't deserve that award, whatever, right? Why would you say something? Well, I can't. But if anyone else says that, no, no, no, no, no. Don't say that about my butt. were you pissed that the football team didn't get selected for the playoffs? Well, I thought that was very interesting. It's a weird way to ask that question.
Starting point is 01:25:47 Why do you insult me and then ask that question? That was part of the question. See, I think there needs to be conversation about how we're selecting teams to do whatever. It's more of a problem in the NCAA. The percentage of football teams that play in bowls are much higher than the percentage of basketball players they have a chance to go to the NCAA tournament. I think we need to increase the number of teams that can go to the NCAA tournament.
Starting point is 01:26:14 They were talking about it this week. So you do say yes, you're in on adding another 32 teams or so. But what has happened, you seem as though you have so many people making decisions about how to govern college sports. And I don't think we have enough of the people who are in the trenches, the coaches who battle it, maybe some of the AEDs who play football and understand it. But it's amazing to me sometimes how we make decisions
Starting point is 01:26:40 that doesn't appear to me to have been analyzed correctly, to have had enough meetings, to process it so we can see what the future would bring if we make these decisions. But I understand. You don't want to think that it's political, but a team shouldn't be penalized
Starting point is 01:27:03 because a player gets hurt. in my opinion. But I'm sure there are reasons why they made those decisions that I don't understand. I'm not the kind of person who wants to give a lot of opinions, and I think that's what's happening in our society today. Everybody wants to make laws and decisions about how they feel. I want to make decisions based on facts. And the facts prove that they won enough game where they deserve
Starting point is 01:27:29 to have the opportunity to compete in the process. And they were denied that because of other decisions. And that's unfortunate. Probably Gator fans, if you ask me. Oh, for sure. They're probably behind it all. Stupid. Last question, coach.
Starting point is 01:27:47 You got tons of success. You're in these different Hall of Fame. You've won it every, you got plenty of money. What about this? Is that true, coach? A lot of money? What about this is still so fulfilling for you that you still have the drive that you have? Well, I think.
Starting point is 01:28:05 we all are put on this earth for a purpose. And I met with two ministers, a pastor Alessi and a Hage from California when I was at the University of Miami, because I always enjoyed working in the church. And, but I was getting busier and busier and had less opportunity. And I was concerned about that, you know, from a spiritual standpoint. So I met with them at the wagon wheel on US1 for breakfast. And I discussed this with them. And they told me everybody has a
Starting point is 01:28:42 purpose and God has a purpose for all of us. I said, well, how am I supposed to know what my purpose is? Is it because a piece of understanding comes over you and you feel good every day about what you do? And that's how I feel.
Starting point is 01:28:58 I have a piece of understanding. I'm excited every day. I don't have any down moments because I realize that this is my purpose that I'm trying to fulfill. So at some point in time, I know I can't do it forever. But I do feel good about what I'm doing. All my kids are graduating.
Starting point is 01:29:16 I'm hopefully they stand out of trouble and we win in our fair share of the games. They're going on and being better husbands, fathers, neighbors, and citizens. To me, that's gratifying. That's what I enjoy. And so long as my passion is there, but it's becoming more and more difficult in the climate that we are operating in now.
Starting point is 01:29:36 You see a lot of my colleagues are deciding that it's a little something that they're not interested in participating in. But as long as I don't get that feeling, I'm going to hang right on in here. I tell people I'm a coach as long as I'm enthusiastic about it, but if I walk out and go sitting on the other coaches bench by mistake, because I don't know where I am, I'm going to have. I'm going on in there. But if I end up setting on my opponent's bench, kind of coach their team who don't know where I am, I might hang on in it.
Starting point is 01:30:10 If they put out the silver alert during the game, they're like on our phones, silver alert, coach's on the, we got, Coach, we're a huge fan, so thank you for your time. You're such an inspiration and, you know, go Seminole.
Starting point is 01:30:21 We're glad you won last night. It's always awkward when we come in after a loss. So we're glad you won last night because we were watching going, please God, let's come. You guys operate out of Nashville. I met my wife in there in Tennessee. I went to the undergraduate school in Tennessee.
Starting point is 01:30:37 I went to the graduate school in Tennessee. We're probably related. So there you go. Yeah, we're probably related. Thank you, Coach. All right, thank you. Thanks, coach. You can have opinions.
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Starting point is 01:33:55 On average, how many shots do you like to get up a week? I won't say a day because maybe take a day off. So I try to get up at least like a thousand a day. Whoa. Wow, really? I try to get my thousand makes a day. So I just tell you how many shots have to take to get up a thousand makes. You ever say like a bouncer, like at a club or a barn.
Starting point is 01:34:08 He's got the clicker that says how many people are in the club? How do you know how many you've shot? Because I'll be like, one click. Well, I won't move spots until I make a certain amount. And then if you just add it up, like I go like probably 20 makes a spot. And I go, what's the time I go seven spots, you know, corner wing. But that means you miss so few that you can add them up. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:27 That's not I'm saying. Like if you're doing that, you must miss so few. You ever get into a game and you're just feeling off, but you have really one of the greatest games. Like in warm up, you couldn't hit anything, but then game time hits and you couldn't be more on. I don't think that's necessarily happening to me. Just because on game day, that's when I'm like,
Starting point is 01:34:46 I try to lock all the way in, and I come in a morning and I get my shots up, and then I come in before a shoot around and get shots up. So by the time of games here, I've gotten up so many shots. It's almost like the muscle memory. It's just like I'm already warm. Does missing affect you in a game
Starting point is 01:34:59 if you miss the first couple, or is it like I need to shoot even more to wipe that away? And no, miss doesn't really affect me. especially my teammates, they always keep telling me, keep shooting when I miss, or the next one's going in. They do tell you that? Yeah, they definitely tell me. When I play cookout, they never say that to me. When I miss, they're like, don't shoot it anymore.
Starting point is 01:35:15 It's no, it's the exact opposite. So we live different lives for sure. We got a buddy of ours that says that he probably would have made the NBA, but his parents moved houses and they didn't move the hoop with it. So he's like, that kind of messed me up. And he didn't have the confidence to do tryouts and stuff like that. The dumb thing of her life. Pretty dumb. But when did you realize?
Starting point is 01:35:35 like, oh, okay, I can do this? I guess like it started becoming like real, like when I got to high school, you know, that's when I started really getting that label like a shooter, you know, like a knockdown shooter, you know, middle school, I didn't really, like, I don't know, not take a series. I took a series because I play AAU and everything, but it wasn't like, I didn't have like people telling me that you can really play in college basketball, you know, but once I got the high school, that's when it started becoming a reality, like, okay, I can really do it. I can really make it to and play D1.
Starting point is 01:36:05 threes you ever made in a high school game? I don't know. I don't know most of the middle high school game. You ever made nine? Yeah, I think I have. Probably nine. Yeah, I think I have made nine. Like that's the number.
Starting point is 01:36:17 Nine is like super little. Yeah, man. Like eight is good. Seven is all, but nine, if you can make nine, that's legit. Do you ever, when you're shooting, let's say somebody's in your face, do you feel it's so pure that you can at times just not even see the rim if someone and just shoot the ball and know what's going in? I'm like, it kind of feels like that sometimes, but if I, for me, I actually have to see the rim.
Starting point is 01:36:39 I don't know, I got to see the room. He's not very good. I shoot blind. I don't make them. But I shoot a lot, blind. But I do, I do work out with like a lot of, like, high hand contests, you know. Is that those things they hold up? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:51 When I work out, I do have a guy like just jumping in contesting that, you know, he's probably more of a sweat than I am most of the time just because he's just working so hard trying to block my shot and contest it. Is it more embarrassing to get blocked if you're shooting a mid-range or under the goal or shooting a three. If it's being projected back into the seats, which one's more embarrassing? I think for me, a three, because that's my job. You know, I can't have anyone stop me from doing my job, so I think for me, probably a three. What about if they hit it from behind? Like, you're shooting top of the key. If somebody comes up, you don't see them. Oh, yeah, that's not embarrassing.
Starting point is 01:37:22 Like, that feels like I'm like chung-roof a little bit. Yeah, it's kind of like, all right, I didn't see you coming. Right. Even though we only counted four people in front of me and I knew somebody was behind me, but still, yeah. What about the move whenever you let somebody go by and then you He's already hit it from behind. Oh, yeah, I like that one. Yeah, I like that. That's all I'm good. It comes slow.
Starting point is 01:37:38 So they get that step, and then I try that. But then I get called a foul. Do you ever try that in the game if you get beat? Yeah, you got to come back. We call it back. You got a backtap. Backtap. Back tap.
Starting point is 01:37:46 Or hawk it down. You're a backtapper, dude. Dude, I backtap my whole life. That's all I've done is backtack, for sure. If you look at the whole season, like macro large, what, 38, 40, 40, 42. What percentage at the end of the year are you happy with? I mean, I think for me, you know, around 40, 40 and above, you know, I don't really like to be below 40. I know last year I was, and a year before that I was.
Starting point is 01:38:09 You don't like to be above? I don't like to be above. I would literally kill somebody. I kill one of the people on the set to shoot above 40. No, I like to be above. I don't like to be below 40. I think right now I'm shooting below 40. I'm like 38, 39, so I got to definitely get that. Yeah, we don't want to say anything.
Starting point is 01:38:24 You said it. Yeah, we were talking about it before you walk up. What shooter do you see yourself in the most that you look up to that you look up to, that you would like to emulate, not still, but you see you've taken a lot from watching and play ball. Right. Definitely Bradley Bill and Buddy Hill, like guys like that who kind of the same height, you know, same size, around the same weight that I want to be, you know, playing at the next
Starting point is 01:38:46 level. I mean, obviously, Stefan Curry, just because his mechanics are, you know, ridiculous, you know. But I think, yeah, those two Bradley Bill and Buddy Hill, just, just no kind of same height than that. The game against Boston College, they had to stop the game for a little bit because the crowd somebody in the crowd got out of hand a little bit. Is that distracting? Like, are there things where you're just like, man, we were on a roll?
Starting point is 01:39:06 Like, why do we have to stop the game for something like this? Yeah, I mean, I think yesterday was especially just because I remember Chandler was in the post. You know, you're already posted guy up and they just stopped the game in the middle of the play. You know, I think that was kind of crazy. If they would have done it like, you know, after, you know, they saw what he would have done with the ball, you know, then okay. But if you stopped the right in the middle of a play, a guy who was in a good position, you know, I think he was going to score on that player or make something happen, you know. but yeah I mean it does get kind of distracting especially in that scenario
Starting point is 01:39:33 what about last question what about somebody whistling in the crowd do you ever confused that for a rep whistle oh good one I mean when you're in the game we can't really I don't know it's crazy but I don't really like hear you know the crowd you know I'm terrible but you can't hear the coaches over the crowd or sometimes you can't even hear the coach you just play yeah sometimes I mean sometimes running a huddle one can't even care depending on you know the environment you know but definitely like I know I can't hear the crowd someone whistling the crowd I wouldn't unless it was that loud but I haven't heard anything in the crow.
Starting point is 01:40:01 We appreciate the time. We enjoy watching you shoot. We wish we could shoot. Yes, we do. And we're really rooting for you to get over 40% because we know you have it in you. You can do it. You can do this.
Starting point is 01:40:12 We believe in you. You were born to do that. You know, a lot of people, when we walked in, they said we don't know what the problem is. He's at 39.9. And we're like, we'll get him to 40. So that's what we're here to do. Hey, if anything, do it for us.
Starting point is 01:40:22 Appreciate you. I got you. I got you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:40:24 Before you walked over here, we watched you hit one, and then you're like, now I feel good. Do you have any, as a shooter, do you have any sort of superstition if you're practicing, like you can't leave on a miss or, like, what are your superstitions? I feel like that one's kind of an unwritten rule. Most basketball players kind of follow that one, but really just working out as much as I can, not really any superstitions, but just getting a lot of time in the gym. How often do you change shoes out? Do you play game shoes, same shoes every time, or either the same shoe, but newer,
Starting point is 01:40:54 wins every few games? No, I do play in a ton of different shoes, but there's no really rhythm to it for me unless they start to hurt my feet, you know, change it up. But no real rhythm for me. At what age did you grow over six feet? I would say sophomore in high school, probably, freshman. And it's a six foot freshman, we'll say freshman. Were they having you run a little more like five, four like posts that you were taller than everybody else, or were you always a guy that could stretch the court a little bit? Yeah, I never played a post. Even though you were taller than other kids. No, I never played a post position.
Starting point is 01:41:30 We find a lot of times that a lot of the guards that grew early played a version of post. Some of the post guys that grew late played a guard, so those skills become a bit intermixed, and then they just become a well all-around basketball player because they have all those skills. If coach was to say to you, all right, Tom, get in, we need you to post up one of these guys at BC one-on-one. Could you do it? Yeah, I can do it. You feel comfortable with that? Yeah, I feel like I could do it.
Starting point is 01:41:56 How would you call for the ball? Ball, ball. No different way. So you just want them to see you and give it to you? Yeah. You don't go like, you ever do that? Maybe that's after. You ever hit anybody with that in the game?
Starting point is 01:42:09 A couple times in high school. Hey, do you guys ever practice with the other team's ball? We do actually, really just to get used to what we're going to be playing with. Like if we go to an Adidas school or whatever different type of brand, we'll play with their ball. Because it feels different? Like all the... Yeah, it really can, depending on. the different ball. Or some of them square at some schools? Like they're not even...
Starting point is 01:42:29 Do you go and do you call the school and be like, hey, can we get some of those balls? Or do you just go buy your own? I'm not sure how it works. I'm pretty sure our equipment manager or order some or something like that. That's a Walmart. That's what I thought. We run down the street out. We need 40 balls. Head over to Dix. We need to do those balls. So you're a sophomore this year. So you've had a bit of time here in Tallahassee to, because Tallahassee is awesome. We've been here a bunch of times. Tell me about the town and what it's like to go to college here. It's great. I think it's cool because it is a college town, but there are other some stuff that's going on too, like the capital is downtown. But I think it's cool that the real college town where a lot of the people stay and go out and whatever is right next to the campus too.
Starting point is 01:43:11 So I think it's a good mix. The arena, and we've been to 20 arenas this year, this is one of the most legit arenas. And I know ACC is such a basketball conference and you guys, you definitely want to have your flex when people come. but to be in this arena and to look up, what is it like when the crowd is just on? Well, fortunately, we've had a couple of really packed games this year, and it's awesome. It gets real loud, and I really just think it's a great arena,
Starting point is 01:43:36 like the shape of it. It's really nice, yeah. When you were playing high school basketball in Ohio, most points in a high school game? 36, 35. Did they pull you early, or was that, like, buzzer beat or two? No, that was a game that they pulled me early. We were up by a lot.
Starting point is 01:43:53 They pulled them on the first quarter of here. That's word on the street. Hey, what's recruiting like when, you know, people come to your house and write letters and all that? And do you feel pressure? Like, oh, man, I got to tell them something now. What's that pressure like? Yeah, that's actually something that nobody really told me before it happened. You kind of feel a little bit of pressure to, you know, because they're putting so much pressure on you and talking to you.
Starting point is 01:44:15 You kind of have to reciprocate. And sometimes, you know, just like a 17-year-old, 16-year-old kid, you don't really know how to handle it. But my dad was a long-time college coach, so he kind of prepared me. a little bit for it. Just feel like you're dating a bunch of girls at once and you, like, you just want to keep, you're not committed to all, you're not committed to anyone. It's like, it's not your girlfriend, but you're kind of just keeping some of them, and some of them you don't care as much about, but you know, you're, you don't want to treat them bad.
Starting point is 01:44:36 Right, you still want to be nice because they were nice to you, but then you have that one that you're like, I think this is the one that I want to be with the rest of my life. Is that what it's like? Kind of, but it's older men and it's not one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Seminoles are just such a legendary brand. I mean, even before we were alive. Like it's, as for as long as college sports, I feel like, has been massive in American culture.
Starting point is 01:44:57 This seminal icon has existed. Pretty cool to wear that on the uniform. Yeah, it's really awesome. And they kind of tell us the background of it, too. Like, you say it's not a mascot. It's a symbol. It represents people that, you know, it didn't give up. So it's a, it's really, it's really special.
Starting point is 01:45:12 So when you're coming off the bench and you, I don't ever see you, like, stretching over on the side before he calls you. It's not like you're doing feet together down over there. So how do you. stay when like even last night what coach calls you in for a few minutes like how do you stay loose or can you get loose or do you just live i'm not loose i got to get it while i'm out there uh i mean sometimes you got to get on the bike but i think it's really just a mindset like staying ready to go in whenever because you know different different game different scouting different matchup they could need different things so just got to stay ready if russia had a missile
Starting point is 01:45:42 pointed america oh man no listen follow me here we switched we switched directions no we didn't know no here we go and they said if tom is shooting wide open nobody in the gym three-pointers If he can make eight out of ten, we won't shoot America with the missile. Could you make out of ten unguarded? Yeah. Okay. We're not going to do it. They're not pointing it at us.
Starting point is 01:45:58 I just wanted to win confidence-wise. I was ready to do it. Okay, see, I knew he was. I could tell. Like, he was ready to go. All right, final two questions, Eddie? Yeah, what's road life like, you know, with a team? I was, like, a lot of you guys, and at night, it's probably, like, get bored.
Starting point is 01:46:10 Do you guys ever think, like, let's sneak out? Or are you just, like, all business at all time? Well, really, I think they kind of manage that well. we don't travel too many nights early, and we really don't have a lot of downtime between meetings and stuff, so we'll fly in the night before the game, pretty late, have a meeting, have a meal, go to sleep, and then, like, so it's pretty quick. You guys go into, like, a pizza hut, all, like, hurting you guys? They line up the whole salad bar.
Starting point is 01:46:34 It's like, somebody else shows up, like, who all the tall guys is a salibar? No, I don't think that would be very efficient. You ever been to a salad bar? No, I've never been to a salad bar. No, I've never been to sell bar. You even know what a salad bar is? Now see back in the day at Pizza Hut or any place there would just be an island and it had all the salad stuff and you would go and you grab it. Then think all COVID happened and they eliminated all the rest of them.
Starting point is 01:46:57 Do you know what golden corrales? Yeah. Yeah. Final question for you. What do you feel like your ceiling is in basketball? Do you want to be next level? Do you want to be a coach or maybe not in basketball at all? I definitely want to stay in basketball.
Starting point is 01:47:12 all. My goal has always just been to go as far as the game will take me, whether that's playing professionally in the States, overseas, and then eventually coach after that. So I definitely think I can be a professional. Did your dad call you after a game? They actually live pretty close, so they can... He knocks on the door after the game? Yeah, they'll talk to me. We'll get some dinner, yeah. Awesome. Well, I appreciate your time. Yeah, appreciate you. Yeah, congratulations. Thank you. All right, eight out of ten, let's go. All right. Thank you guys. I'm going to take my Josh Allen. Go Knowles. I'm going to go ahead and take my Luca card
Starting point is 01:47:41 that I've had up here for like three weeks home to. That's graded too, right? I'm going to get somewhere and just put these graded cards and just keep them forever. I'm like into a whole baseball card collection. I mean, I wish I could find that old crap. I kept them all.
Starting point is 01:47:54 But they were all, I'd get rated back. Have you asked around? I'd get rated two. Oh, the old ones? From when I was like keeping my butt or just... Your backpack. Yeah, I would just take them out of the folder, though.
Starting point is 01:48:03 But I did order some card holders from Amazon today. So when we do send them out, they're already in a holder. so they take him out and grade them. You can't just put him in an envelope. I gave Eddie a... Do you look at those cards they gave you?
Starting point is 01:48:15 I gave Eddie a big stack. I gave you a... Otani. But he's with the Angels. I think it's a rookie card. Did you give it to me? Because you said you were going to keep it. But then I forgot.
Starting point is 01:48:24 But then I forgot. And I was like, he can have it. And then I looked at it on the steps sitting there. And I'm like, there are cameras everywhere. Otani. Should I take it? Panini. Angels.
Starting point is 01:48:35 2,021. Or is it 20th? It's probably 20. one. That card, because it's a standard card. It's worth, I think it's worth about 40 bucks. Nice. Ungraded? Hey, can I throw that into your graded pile? You need to just make sure and see what it is. Okay. Because it could be way less too, but I thought it was pretty cool. There was a Otani. I also have a D on that's pretty good. I might send that one with you too. You're not sending anything with me. It'll be a group deal, man. There's no deal. I do have video on my shoes, though. When can we send these off, Kevin?
Starting point is 01:49:10 Still working on it. But let's say we don't know anybody. Okay. When do we send them off? As soon as you want. And is there a way to fat, like can you pay more to fast track it? Because there's always a way to expedite it. Probably.
Starting point is 01:49:21 Yeah. How do you think the rich does it? That's what I'm trying to figure out. I did that with our stickers. Do you get them done? Yeah. Get the helmets done? Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:49:28 The stickers are going to be in Thursday, but that was the quickest I could get them here. Got it. I thought you could just make them in. Oh, no. You don't have a 3D printer? No, you got a printer. You can go to like kinkos and have them make stickers? No.
Starting point is 01:49:39 Kinkos? Kiko's still thing? I don't know, is it? Not for like the football ones. Is Kiko still a thing? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I think it's just FedEx now.
Starting point is 01:49:48 Kinkos by FedEx? They have like inside of FedEx you can go print stuff. It was Kinkos, then FedEx Kinkos, and I guess now it's just FedEx. Okay. What, Reed, what's your proposition? Oh, okay. Yeah, the 25 whistles pawn shop here. So, as you know,
Starting point is 01:50:09 I, uh, I did some break. Set it up with as you know. I did some breaks yesterday. Did you win anything? Hey, did you win that one you thought you might have won? They delivered your package? The New England Patriots one? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:20 Yeah, I sent it, I sent it to Kevin. It was just, it was just some cards. Okay, so you didn't win. I didn't win anything. Got it. They send you the cards. Got it. Yeah. But yesterday I hit, I hit four jerseys that I sent to you.
Starting point is 01:50:31 Oh my God. You hit four. Dude, you, what you're spending away too. Call the line. No, this is, this is what I'm saying. Okay, let me look. Hold on. Do you send them now?
Starting point is 01:50:39 No, yeah, I sent him to yesterday. What? You didn't see him, dude? Yeah, you didn't see him. That's what I was like, dude, okay, I guess they're not good. Hold on, I may have fallen. Dude, I don't have any jerseys from you. Really? Oh, no. Is it another Bobby? No.
Starting point is 01:50:50 I have nothing from you. Oh, that's weird. Okay. Look, just so we know, Reed and I text a lot, and we send videos, and he sends edited videos, but I have no jerseys from him. Where are they on your scent? Right here? Oh, it's in words. It's not a picture or anything. Oh. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:05 Oh, at the bottom. You said, got it. So, but those. I didn't think they weren't that great because they were... Yeah, they all were customs. But... Okay, not all, but what's your question? But I hit one...
Starting point is 01:51:17 They don't suck, I take that back. Yeah. Let me read you them, though, real quick. Yeah. Zach Moss Colts, but Zach Moss is now... He's leaving the Colts. But Zach Moss. A. Chas just signed with... That's cool. That's cool.
Starting point is 01:51:37 Yeah. Jack... Smith and Jigba. Pretty cool. Seeles. Shack Thompson Panthers. I don't know if that is. He's a B guy. Yeah, he's good. So of the, if I were to have a favorite one, it'd probably be the Jackson Smith and Jigba. Yeah, that's cool.
Starting point is 01:51:52 But they're all, yes, go ahead. I did one more after we finished. Oh, my God. I did one more. How much money did you spend yesterday in all? I don't even want to look. I don't even want to look. But that's what I'm saying is I want to retire, so I just want my money back.
Starting point is 01:52:05 But the one that I hit. Everyone wants their money back. No, I mean, if you want to buy it from me, the one I hit. Go ahead. You can send me a picture of it? Don't say it. Send me a picture of it. Well, okay.
Starting point is 01:52:14 I'll send you a picture of it. I don't want to hear what it is first. I want to react to it. Okay. This is the proposition? If you do this to me, I'll give it to you. Okay, hold on. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:52:26 Here we go. Now he sounds like quagmire. Okay, read us. I'm going to try to sell those jerseys, but this is the one, and it is a funco. It's not a jersey. Oh, funco. I like funcos. And I didn't mean to do it, but.
Starting point is 01:52:38 Okay, hold on. I just sent it to you. I meant to do a jersey, but I did a funco. Funko? Oh, that's cool. Yeah, it's a good one. You just said that, yeah, that's cool. That's it.
Starting point is 01:52:48 No, no, it's a good one. I've been really looking at the funcos a lot, meaning I made some for myself, too. Of me. Yeah. So don't say what it is, but how much are you wanting for it? Do you want any of the jerseys, too? I don't.
Starting point is 01:53:07 And Jigba? I don't. I don't really want any of the stuff. I have so much stuff. But what do you... Black Moss? Rare? I'm not sure how much it's worth. I know, but without knowing that...
Starting point is 01:53:17 $300. I mean, I can get it on eBay cheaper. Oh, really? Yeah. $200. I knew my money, man. He's like, 50 bucks, man. He was 50 bucks.
Starting point is 01:53:26 You can... Listen, it's a... Here it is. It's a Dan Marino signed Funko. Oh, that's cool. That's really cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:32 And so here's one... What color is it, Reed? Because this one here is 299. Dan Marino number 215. Let me see here. Dang. I thought it said $600 online. It could have been a different one, but let's see which one it is. Let's see here.
Starting point is 01:53:47 Dan Marino number 215, that's what Ears is. Yep. That's a cool one. You can get it for $2.99 on eBay. So you could sell it on eBay, obviously. Or do you just need money now? I mean, I'll sell it on eBay. Okay, I give you $200 for it, but I don't want to steal your money.
Starting point is 01:54:03 Oh, you're not stealing my money, man. What is that? What is on earth? I just mean, I didn't, I don't think I spent a, over $200 yesterday. To win four jerseys in a Funko, you would have to... I hit four or five. I saw you...
Starting point is 01:54:18 Except for the ones that we did. I saw you lose two. Not those. Not counting those. So every other one you won except for the two that we did. Every other one except one. Okay, so let's do the math here. So did you ever win two at a time? No, I did not. Okay, so did you do all divisions or any teams?
Starting point is 01:54:38 All divisions. Sounds like he's on trial. So four jerseys, if you're doing divisions at 35 bucks each. Yeah. 35's low. They're usually 40? How much were they? You can do that for five bucks?
Starting point is 01:54:51 You're going to yell at me. I know, I thought he'd be like 60 bucks. Even if we do 30, let's be even more conservative, say 30 bucks each. So four times three, that's $120 for the four jerseys. Now, let's talk about the times he lost. What? I know two of them I did two divisions. But let's not worry about that yet.
Starting point is 01:55:08 Okay. Okay, or we can add the 60 bucks. That carryover. Yeah, that's 60 bucks we'll add at the end. You guys are can't sound a lot of $5 there and little doubles. So far as $120 in before we put in the 60, just for the ones you won. Now, you did lose, you said you lost three total. Okay?
Starting point is 01:55:22 At $30 each, that would be $90. And that's just, so now you're at 210. It's why I didn't want to do the math. And that's just the jerseys, right? Yeah. Because the funco you got in was probably, was what? It was 45. Okay.
Starting point is 01:55:38 So let's just say 40. So you're at $250 there plus the 60 from earlier. Mm-hmm. Which what was that 60 from? Wait, what was? Oh, you bought the two-juries. Yeah, or two divisions. So you're at 310 for all of it.
Starting point is 01:55:51 Okay. So yesterday you spent $310. Okay, I'll take $200. That's being very lenient. Yeah. So I tell you what. I'll give you $250 for all of it. All of it?
Starting point is 01:56:01 I'll give that to you, man. Okay, it's all yours. Deal. So you lost money on that. It's fine, though. I had my, it was fun. It is fun, dude. It's not anything about the money. I need to retire again.
Starting point is 01:56:11 Okay, I'm going to pay you $250 right now. Okay. And once I hit this, hey, shut your mouth. Let's read. Read, take a breath. Think about what you're doing. Why would you be working against me right now? I'm not.
Starting point is 01:56:21 I'm just saying, both are my friends. Both of my friends. Don't be desperate. Don't be desperate. It'd be more of a hassle or trying to sell it. For sure. And it would cost you a little bit of money shipping. But you can make more money.
Starting point is 01:56:32 Reid, I have $2.50 here. I'm going to give you 10 seconds. You can have time to think about it. This is crazy. And if you want to take time and create the eBay account and send it all off, then you should. But if you want to buy stamps and stuff. No, I'm going to do the 250.
Starting point is 01:56:43 I'm going to do 250. Are you positive? I don't want to force you into it. No, I'm positive. Okay, Reed, I'm sending it in three. Okay. Two. I'm going to make it 260.
Starting point is 01:56:53 Oh, thanks, fan. For shipping. Yeah. And I did, and Reed was doing those deals for me. And I did give him like five and ten bucks extra each time he did it for me. Yeah. Just because I was like, they may hit you with some tech. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:57:06 The labor? Yeah, and he was doing it. Yeah, yeah. I'm sending you a 260 for all of it. All right. Going once? That's it. Going twice?
Starting point is 01:57:13 I'm doing it. Done. Wow. Do we shake on this? I mean, it's on air. We did it on air. This is good. This is good in the courtroom.
Starting point is 01:57:20 And hold on. It's got to go through first. It's confused that I'm only paying $260 for all this. I've been, like something's wrong. Benmo's like he felt for this? Are you sure? It's going to a good cause, man. What is that?
Starting point is 01:57:34 making me not so broke anymore. Okay, sent. Done. You're doing that to yourself. I know. I just wanted some fun for a... I was wanting to hit something like really, really big.
Starting point is 01:57:44 You did. Sam Marina Funko. I mean, yeah, for a Funko, it's awesome. That's like 300 bucks. And that's big, but that's not really big. Like, I've only hit like two things ever really big. And I've done it a lot.
Starting point is 01:57:57 The Cowboy... Excuse me, the Broncos. Broncos with Peyton and Elway. That's big. The Manning jersey, at that. thousand bucks that's big is that what you were looking for yeah because he he got me with that with the scroll and saying that he had two more uh authentics in there and there was only seven left i was like that's pretty good odds all right well i've paid read thanks man i appreciate you that's the
Starting point is 01:58:20 proposition that's the proposition i'm done with breaks now i had my fun i can't do it anymore hey are you did you get invited dinner huh did you get invited to dinner tomorrow i knew Arkansas was playing stop i'm not talking to you did you get invited a dinner, bones? I don't know anything about a dinner, so I guess not. No, I didn't either, man. It's really weird. What happened? Kevin's birthday dinner. What the f? You still invite us. What time's your dinner?
Starting point is 01:58:46 That's seven. Okay. Yeah, we can't go. What time is the game? Six. Exactly. We can't go. Exactly. We'd be over like 7.30. We'd just come by after. Screw off. Hey, what do you guys doing on it? No, it's too late. I tell what we were not doing. Bones, you know who got invited? Proposition. Read.
Starting point is 01:59:01 Proposition Reed. Proposition Reed. It is. We got invited. Believe that crap. Hey, it worked. I got some money. Mm-hmm. Pay for your dinner tomorrow night.
Starting point is 01:59:13 Yeah, for real. I'm hurt. I'll make a proposition. I'll give you one Dan Marino if he touched me there. Oh, my God. It's turned weird. All right. Thank you guys.
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Starting point is 01:59:42 That's all we're saying. We're begging. We have like a six-week run there anyway. Right? Yeah, so we only got five left. Dang. Motherf. Only five more opportunities.
Starting point is 01:59:49 Unless they like what they see, right? And they're like, let them need an extension. I think mostly it's about if they can prove people want to watch. Oh. More than they like what they see. So then we need everybody to watch. Everyone. But also, even if they do like, I don't know they're going to renew even then.
Starting point is 02:00:04 So I don't want to be like, well, if we don't renew, they hate this. Yeah. Although that'll probably be it. And if you're listening and you go to a sports bar, tell them to turn the channel on. That way the whole bar can see it. That's not how it works. And that counts as like 100 of your views, doesn't it? Oh, you're sure?
Starting point is 02:00:18 Yeah, just one. All right. All right, thank you guys. We'll see you next time. Bye, everybody. Hi, I'm Bob Pittman, Chairman and CEO of IHeartMedia. And I'm kicking off a brand new season of my podcast, Math and Magic, Stories from the Frontiers of Marketing.
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