The Bobby Bones Show - 25W: Happy Thanksgiving! Bobby Shares His Thoughts on the New Arkansas HC + Brandon Gives Kickoff Kevin a Music Lesson + Eddie Has a Christmas Gift Dilemma that Has to do with the Cowboys 

Episode Date: November 27, 2025

Bobby kicks off this Thanksgiving episode with his honest reaction to Arkansas’ new head coach and what it means for the Hogs going forward. He also talks about how he may or may not have played... a role in getting him to sign with the Razorbacks. Then Brandon flips the script and gives Kickoff Kevin a full-on music lesson, breaking down what Kevin doesn’t know after he saw Stephen Wilson Jr at the Ryman earlier this week. Plus, Eddie shows up with a Christmas gift dilemma that somehow manages to involve the Dallas Cowboys, if they are true contenders, and much more!    Download the DraftKings Sportsbook App today: https://dkng.co/bobbysports   If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/MI/NJ/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/NH), 888-789-7777/visit http://ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 1-877-770-STOP (7867) (LA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), call/text TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA).   21+ (18+ WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/LA/MI/NJ/ NY/PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. N/A in NH/OR/ON. New customers only. Valid 1 per new customer. Min. $5 deposit. Min $5 wager. $200 issued as eight (8) $25 free bets. Ends 9/19/22. See http://draftkings.com/sportsbook for details.     Follow the Show: @25WhistlesSports   Follow the Crew: @MrBobbyBones @ProducerEddie @KickoffKevin @MikeDeestro @BrandonRayMusicSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. The 2026 NFL draft is here, and the NFL Daily podcast has it covered from all angles. Join me, Greg Rosenthal, and Jordan Rodriguez after night one on Thursday. Nick Shook joins me night two Friday and then Sunday to recap everything that went down over the three days in Pittsburgh. We'll tell you who won the draft and which players were my favorite picks.
Starting point is 00:00:27 Listen to NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal on the IHard. Art Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Clivert Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media.
Starting point is 00:00:46 Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifers Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok's podcast network on TikTok. This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft. And we've got a special guest.
Starting point is 00:01:14 The director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galco, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects. From hidden traits teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchises make to the players flying under the radar. This is the insight you won't hear anywhere else. If you want to understand the draft like an insider, you don't want to miss this episode. Listen to the Sports Slice Podcasts on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slice of Life 12 and TikTok podcast network on TikTok. When a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist, they take matters into their own hands. I vowed. I will be his last target. is not going to get away with this.
Starting point is 00:02:00 He's going to get what he deserves. We always say that trust your girlfriends. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, everyone? I'm Ego Vodom. My next guest, it's Will Ferrell.
Starting point is 00:02:25 My dad gave me the best advice ever. He goes, just give it a shot. But if you ever reach a point where you... You're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore. It's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat. Just hang in there.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Yeah. It would not be. Right. It wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Listen to Thanks Dad on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Everybody, welcome. We are doing a Thanksgiving show.
Starting point is 00:03:20 That's right, because we care. and we want you to be able to listen to something whenever you're tired to listen to your family. Oh, blow the whistle, sorry. Just waiting, man. Hey, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad. You're good, you're good. Yeah, taking a breath in
Starting point is 00:03:32 and you were just holding it. I was holding it. My bad, my bad, my bad, my bad. There's a story that, first of all, who yells at their television while watching games? Me. Do you yell at the television? I think I yell at the couch
Starting point is 00:03:44 because it's the only thing that I hit. Do you, like, turn into the couch? No, but I will look down and be like, I look at the couch, I think. You hit the couch? Yeah, that's the only thing I really hit in my life, unless I'm working out. Like, I'll slap the couch.
Starting point is 00:03:59 I broke my hand, punching a couch one time. Punching a couch. I was angry. It must not have been the soft part. No, it was the corner of like the end of the couch. Yep, the wood part. That's aggressive. Why?
Starting point is 00:04:08 At a game? No, my mom. Oh, your mom, yeah. I was like 30. She told you not to, you can't do something or something? She told me to, like, do something. I think it was like clean something up and I just got angry about, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:04:20 I had anger issues as a teenager and just I just turned. And the first thing I saw it, I punched the corner of the couch and it happened to be the wood part and it broke my hand. I went upstairs and act like nothing was a big deal. Went to school next day. Couldn't close my hand. And I was like, yeah, I think I broke it. And I did. A little hat in hand, a little humble pie?
Starting point is 00:04:36 Yeah. Yeah. Learn my lesson the hard way. Do you still have anger issues? No. No. You just got rid of them? It's called therapy.
Starting point is 00:04:45 It's like a virus almost. Like it never really leaves. Well, it's called therapy. You learn how to deal. with your anger is what it is. When I was a teenager, a lot of trauma, I was like, I was mad at my parents for, at the world. Well, it's a safe place, man.
Starting point is 00:04:57 If you want to just let it all out. Yeah, if you want to talk about something, it's a holiday. We have a soft couch over there. It's true. It's a holiday, family holiday. There is a contest going on, the roto grinder's armchair coach contest. They're looking for the loudest, most passionate football fan who thinks they can call plays better than the pros.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Fans can nominate themselves or someone they know by submitting either a short video of their best coaching moments or a 300 word essay showcasing their football smarts. The selected armchair coach won a $2,000 cash prize, plus fun extras like a whistle, foam finger, a gallon of Gatorade. All they have to do is watch the game of their choice and share top reactions, yells at the TV screen, analysis, basically getting paid to yell like they probably already do. That's so dumb. From rotogrinders.com, but what's great about it is they're giving away $2,000 as a prize, yet they're going to get a ton of publicity for even the site.
Starting point is 00:05:46 I've never even heard of it. It sounds like a gay app. Roto Grinders? Well, you know what? Grindrinder is the app where dudes meet dudes. Grindr. That don't act like you don't know. Roto is like...
Starting point is 00:06:03 Roto is like... Rottissory. It means like football, baseball. It's rotissory baseball is how all fantasy started. Yes. Okay, it's fantasy because every year I buy a Roto something magazine for my draft. You do? Yeah, it's at the grocery store.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Yeah. Hold on a second. Let me check my phone. Is it 1997? You know what? They even have those still? And it's also not up to date because they had to make it with paper, put it in a box, ship it to the store.
Starting point is 00:06:27 It sits on the shelves. They have one that you can get about two months before draft season. Then you have an updated one. They send a month before draft season. And then you have one, which is like right in the middle of draft season. So you just kind of like, you can buy all three and kind of see what they thought and now what they're thinking. Why would you buy a paper magazine when you could just go online? and buy even subscribe online and get real time edits i understand and it does give you that when you
Starting point is 00:06:51 buy the magazine there's a code that you can put online and it gives you all the digital version of it dude you're living in the past no it's not it's not even that i like i read the magazine it's tradition it's cost five dollars and when it's okay if it's tradition i'm okay with it's fantasy season part of it's going over to the grocery store and buying the magazine or aren't you any better than you think i'm not i'm not good at fantasy dude i don't know i suck at fantasy Nobody's like, it's hard. You're good. Fantasy.
Starting point is 00:07:18 I'm having a good year, yeah. Bobby's pretty good. He's in the playoffs every year. Yeah, I think I've won it a couple of the last few years. But it's okay. Our league, though, has kind of fallen off. I think we mentioned this. Yeah, our old league.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Yeah, it's the league we're in. The one that we're all in together? Yeah. Okay. I used to run it. Like the commissioner? It was legit. He used to run it.
Starting point is 00:07:42 We used to draft in Vegas. Oh, that's it. I do newsletters every week. There was a trophy. Oh. Wow. I just got too busy. And so we put it over to Mike Signs.
Starting point is 00:07:52 What were you doing? Too busy. Right, I know. He does a fine job. He's a good commissioner. But I'm in another league where we've all paid a bunch more in, so it matters more. Yeah. And I don't even like doing two leagues.
Starting point is 00:08:02 I've said this before. But I know a couple of those guys, but it was a high dollar league. And I was like, this would be fun. And so I focus on that one a little more. But I'm doing fine at both. I'm doing good of both. Are you in the playoffs for this for our league? Yeah, right now.
Starting point is 00:08:16 I think I play you this week. Yeah. Yep. Have you guys looked at it? My whole team's been hurt, though. Yeah. And I'm just getting by. What's up?
Starting point is 00:08:23 I played Mike last week. He had, uh, who went off, Mike? Gibbs. Gibbs. Oh, Gibbs went off like 50 points, huh? He still lost. Mike still lost. Wow.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Oh, we played week six. I looked back. I won by 0.7. So the two times he's played me. It's screwed me over. They've sort of announced the Arkansas coach. So as we're recording this, it's all over people saying it.
Starting point is 00:08:49 I still don't know that it's officially official. But Alex Golish, who we had on the show and who I was like, hey, dude, come to Arkansas. A lot of people are crediting me with convincing him to go look up payable in the fall. As they should. That's what you said. It was his wife, man. And if something happens and they're like, just kidding, it's not, then, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Okay, we misspoke. I know, here's what I have known for a while. He was the first one that was offered the job. And had he decided because he was thought there was another job opening as well, he was going to decide between those two jobs. And we had a second guy lined up too, who I won't say, who cares. So I knew it was going to be one of the two. And you're okay with either, both?
Starting point is 00:09:28 I'm okay with whatever. Again, I've not really associated any emotion to anything. Can't be disappointed if you don't have any sort of expectation. And I think that'd be fine. We weren't going to spend a bunch of money on a, but who even was, except for like Lane Kiffin? Yeah, you didn't think you. you're going to get land?
Starting point is 00:09:46 What are we going to do, hire Lincoln Riley? Who's getting who? Penn State can't even figure out what they're doing. I know, yeah. And all of a sudden they're like going to scramble. Auburn's got to figure out what they're doing. And all those coaches like the John Summeralls,
Starting point is 00:09:56 the Alex Golish's, the Ryan Silverfield, all those American conference guys. Like, to me, they're all kind of on the same level of the shelf. Yeah. Some of them will end up being better than others, obviously. Some have had different versions of winning, but they're all kind of the same. So I'm not going to jump to be like,
Starting point is 00:10:12 that coaching ours, so it's a terrible. It's all good. You think there's any way Clark Lee leaves Vanderbilt? I don't. Because, like, I mean, a team like a Penn State or Florida might want them for sure, because what he's done is unbelievable. But I think he loves Vandy so much. He played there.
Starting point is 00:10:28 He's from here. Yeah. I mean, his home's here. So it's kind of perfect. But it is Florida or Penn State. Penn State's last coach came from Vandy, though, which is kind of weird. Yeah, that's true. James Franklin was here when we moved here.
Starting point is 00:10:39 He was the coach of Andy. I didn't realize that. And they jumped up to Penn State. I don't. But I don't know. I have no insight on that. I didn't even want insight on the Arkansas stuff. I was getting annoyed with it. So what do you mean?
Starting point is 00:10:49 Like people were just texting you stuff and you're like, I didn't want to know. And I'd be like, nothing. What do you know? So they would just tell me. Well, why would you ask? What do you know? Well, because then I would know what they told me. I can't not know.
Starting point is 00:11:03 But you didn't want to know. But at first I started off with nothing. It was like, what do you know? Nothing. What do you know? Well, we've heard they've contacted us. So someone else texted me, what do you know? Well, I kind of know this.
Starting point is 00:11:13 Oh, I only knew this. from the first person that told me what do you know so then i was just sharing that information so i'd be like what do you know so i'd have that plus the new what do you know next thing you know i'm talking about to four or five different coaches were calling me going hey is your athletic director like a weirdo is just that i don't even know i had multiple conversations with coaches like asking for feedback about different things about and i was like i don't want to be this person yeah because i don't want to be so attached because i don't want to like or not like the person i'm done with that version there was time for a while when i was like i want to be in
Starting point is 00:11:43 I want to be able to go and like call the coach up be like I'm in town like Musselman who's now at USC who's our basketball coach who met to California he's a California guy nobody got mad at him for going back he won at Arkansas like him and I had a good relationship I would go to he'd be like let's go to dinner
Starting point is 00:12:00 let's go whatever come up let's I like that but then it got kind of weird with our old football coach Pittman never because it got bad but because it wasn't going well so therefore I'd be like it sucks we suck and so they started to not like that I was not saying nice things about the program.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Also donate a bunch of money so they couldn't completely blackball me. So I was like, I don't like this feeling, so I'm just going to not get too close to the sun. That's why I don't know Cal. I donate to basketball. Cal would be cool. Cal was going to call me the other day
Starting point is 00:12:29 because I got a coach from his chief of staff. It's like, hey, Cal wants to give you a call and just say thanks for stuff. I said, hey, man, I mean this in the most respectful way. He doesn't have to call me. This is not a hint. he needs to grease. Like, I'm in regardless. So if he wants to call and just say hi, I'm all good for it. But don't feel like this is like a booster who feels like it's so cool when coach calls.
Starting point is 00:12:54 I bet he respects that. Like, I bet he got that message and was like, cool. Well, you never call me. So yeah. That never happened. Yeah, yeah. That's true. So I don't like, I'm not, I want to fly too close to the sun because I don't want to get angry at people or not like somebody that make me like what I love the most less. Have you ever had that with an artist? You? You've ever had that with an artist? You don't need to say who, obviously, but like somebody you maybe grew up and then you kind of meet them in the industry and you're like, oh.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Yeah. Yeah. I can separate. I had a really bad couple years with Casey Musgraves, and she's still my favorite. And now it's not a bad couple years anymore. I've talked about it a lot. It's 98% of that was my fault.
Starting point is 00:13:35 But it never affected how I felt about her music. It was still my favorite. And I think I'm kind of able to separate. And the people that I really don't get along with, like a personality's clash, I never really like their music, though, either. Well, that helps. Yeah. Yeah, for the most part. I mean, but I've also, like, any human relationship, like, I've had good times and bad times with certain people.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Like, friends, you go in and out. Like, I don't like their music anymore or less because I'm friends with them or not friends with them. Okay. I just never know if you got too close, like you're talking about, but in the music industry that you guys are so close in, it's kind of like you can't avoid it because it's obviously you're... I just don't feel like I'm that close in it anymore. I've separated myself from it a bunch So I don't have Yeah I'm not that close in it anymore
Starting point is 00:14:20 Like did you ever have a bad enough experience though That you can't even Like whenever the song comes on You're like eh I'm good There are people that I feel that way about Where I'm But I don't I can separate art from artist
Starting point is 00:14:36 It's why every night I go home I mean I go 30 minutes Every night of R Kelly Yeah good man Because you separate the art from the artist I love the music Absolutely He'll Cosby himself
Starting point is 00:14:45 It's on all the time Well, Saturdays, I play the old Cosby Records. That's great. Nice. But you can't watch the TV shows because looking at them's different. They're not on. No, that's Dr. Cliff Hoxtable. So that's not.
Starting point is 00:14:58 That's harder, dude. Is it weird that he was a gynecologist? Yeah, it is. Everybody, I'm kidding about that. Oh, yeah, it's a joke. Okay? Everybody, I don't listen to R. Kelly. I don't watch.
Starting point is 00:15:09 Yeah. We clip it. We clip it. We clip it ourselves to get me in trouble. Promote it. But yeah, I think it's easy, Kevin, to separate the art from the artist. Well, you're a small talk guy, though. What is that what?
Starting point is 00:15:24 Well, I'm just saying, like, you can have a small, like, if you don't necessarily like an artist, but you grew up liking his music or you've liked his music in the past, you feel like you're good at being like, you know, you can still talk to him, have that small talk, whatever, and then just kind of go about your way. Yeah, but there was a time when, and Bobby, you can probably talk on this, but like, there was a time when, like, it was cool to meet someone. Like, oh, I really want to meet them. And then once you get to know them a little bit, you change your theory on that. You're just like, I'm good. Okay. Never seeing them again.
Starting point is 00:15:57 But then you're kind of like, because we've had people interviewing, like, ex-athletes on the show where it's like, dang, I kind of wish I didn't know that their personality was like that. I'd rather just know them as like this iconic player, you know? I don't really have a lot of bad stories because most of the time when I interview people, they come in and they're being their best. That's true. When people ask you, like, hey, how is this person?
Starting point is 00:16:18 Most time it's great. Like, I don't have a whole list of that. I have, like, personal stories that have happened. But I think even Eddie has a buffer because I don't think Eddie's in as much as I am. Right. Where he gets to, like, be friendly with everybody because they come in here for the most part. And I'm a small talk guy. And he's also just a nicer guy.
Starting point is 00:16:34 I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I do like small talk. I know. That's a good thing. I do. The 2026 NFL draft is here. And the NFL Daily podcast has it covered from all angles. Join me, Greg Rosenthal, and Jordan Roderig, after night one on Thursday.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Nick Shook joins me night two Friday and then Sunday to recap everything that went down over the three days in Pittsburgh. We'll tell you who won the draft and which players were my favorite picks. Listen to NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show.
Starting point is 00:17:35 This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment. And the next, we'll talk about life, mental health, personal health, personal health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger.
Starting point is 00:18:00 So, if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. There's two golden rules that any man should live by.
Starting point is 00:18:22 Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that, trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends... Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck.
Starting point is 00:18:49 I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe.
Starting point is 00:19:07 On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Ego Wadam. My next guest, you know from Stepbrothers Anchorman, Saturday Night Live and the Big Money Players Network. It's Will Ferrell. Woo, woo, woo, woo. My dad gave me the best advice ever.
Starting point is 00:19:33 I went and had lunch with them one day. And I was like, and dad, I think I want to really give this a shot. I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings. I'm working my way up through and I know it's a place that come look for up and coming talent. He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet. Yeah. He goes, but there's so much luck involved. And he's like, just give it a shot.
Starting point is 00:19:54 He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and It doesn't feel fun anymore. It's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat. Just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be. Right, it wouldn't be that.
Starting point is 00:20:15 There's a lot of luck. Listen to Thanks Dad on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft. And we've got a special guest. The director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galco, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects. From hidden traits teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchises make to the players flying under the radar. This is the insight you won't hear anywhere else.
Starting point is 00:20:47 If you want to understand the draft like an insider, you don't want to miss this episode. Listen to the Sports Slice podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slical Life 12. and TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Okay, so Hall of Fame nominees. We're at the semi-finalists now, the NFL Hall of Fame. I see Whitten on there? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Yeah, yeah. So there are three quarterbacks. Drew Brees, Eli Manning, Philip Rivers. Hmm. Wow. So what's going to happen, though? They're going to take these 26 down to 15 finalists, and then the 15 finalists go to 5 or 6?
Starting point is 00:21:29 It's between four and eight every year. Oh, so it does change. Yeah. And this is just the first year that these guys are eligible, right? Not all are the first year. Not all of them. Yeah, some of them are up again. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:42 But some of them, it is their first year. Drew Brees, Eli Manning, Philip Rivers. I wonder how many we would say. Let's see. Let me do my list. Sart. So they're 15 finalists. So I'm going to go, I'm not even going to do Hall of Fame.
Starting point is 00:21:56 I'm just say if I pick out 15 just before I even look at the whole list. Drew Bree's yes, finalist. Eli Manning, yes, finalist. I'll come back to Philip Rivers. Frank Gore, Fred Taylor. I'm going to put Frank Gore as a finalist.
Starting point is 00:22:07 I'm not saying Hall of Fame and in my eight. My eight max, right? Yeah, to make it. Not doing that. This is just 15 finalists. Frank Gore in. Larry Fitzgerald for sure in.
Starting point is 00:22:20 Terry Holt. Tori Holt, excuse me. Not going to put him there. I think Tori Holt is somebody, though, who's not his first year, obviously, being up for it. Steve Smith. Man, Steve Smith was awesome.
Starting point is 00:22:31 He was awesome. He was awesome. He was so good. I'm going to put Steve Smith in the final. Heinz Ward, Reggie Wayne. I'm going to put Reggie Wayne in the final. Jason Witten, I'm putting him in the final. Oh, boy. Offensive line. Now, this is tough because what the crap do I know about offensive line men?
Starting point is 00:22:52 Yeah, you might say a name that I recognize. Yeah, there's a couple. Like Willie Anderson. I recognize the name only, and that's only because I know Willie Roof, and it's just a Willie. And there's a Will Anderson on the Texans. Steve Winsnewski. I don't know these people and I'm sure they're all awesome.
Starting point is 00:23:11 It's unfair for me to go yes or no on them. So I'm going to put none in. No one. And I'm going to see where I end up. I'm not smart enough. I do not have the intelligence, the capability to accurately judge these guys. Defense aback, Rodney Harrison. Now, Patriot for sure.
Starting point is 00:23:29 But Rodney Harrison, to me, Steeler? No, Patriot, right? Yeah, but Chargers. Charger, okay. But Patriot, like... Oh, yeah, he's known as a Patriot. Got it.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Yes, yes. No, he's on as a TV guy now. Right. And now my association with him is just on TV all the time. And he's known as a guy that let David Tyree catch that. Pass. But that was such a hard catch. I know.
Starting point is 00:23:50 I'm not blaming him. I'm just saying. I'm going to say my affiliation with Rodney Harrison has become so much television that I've kind of lost his impact as a defensive football player. Do you like them on TV or just kind of... No, I do like him. Okay. So I got to check out of that one.
Starting point is 00:24:06 I can't put him as a finalist. I just know his TV stuff. Dang. It's understandable. Earl Thomas, in. Darren Woodson, the cowboy. In. Not ahead of writing.
Starting point is 00:24:16 Are you putting him in? I'm not going to put him in the 15 yet. I'm going to see where I am. Oh, wow. Luke Kekley, in. And if the guy played six or seven more years, put him in the first year he retires. Break the rule.
Starting point is 00:24:26 Yeah. Kobe him. Although he didn't die. Yeah, it's true. Facts. Luke Kikley, Terrell, Sugg. in Robert Mathis. He played linebacker and defensive line, right?
Starting point is 00:24:38 Yeah, he was the Pass Rush Specialist for the Colts. Is that what they called him? Well, that's what he was known for. Sacks and him and Frini. He played off the ball and on the ball. No, he's mostly on. But I think he would like, it just depends on the whole defensive. Was he never listed as a linebacker?
Starting point is 00:24:54 Would you look? Yeah. Vince Willfork. I'm going to go, yep. Absolutely. Ventatory, yep. Wow. Patriots guys. Well, dude, they won. These guys going in now are the ones that won all those freaking super goals. Because Robert Mathis is listed as a defensive lineman for sure, but I just feel like he played...
Starting point is 00:25:13 I mean, yeah, they might have like... Like stood him up a little bit. He was listed as a linebacker, yeah. And outside. I think it just depends on the defense they were running. Like, I'll argue that, but I can't name a single lineman. I'm like, no. Marshall Yonda.
Starting point is 00:25:28 He was good for the Ravens. I just remember because of his name, too. I bet they were all awesome. Yeah, that's true. Okay, here's who I have Drew Brees, Elon, Man. that's two, Frank Gore 3, Larry Fitzgerald, 4, Steve Smith, 5, Reggie Wayne 6, Jason Witten, 7, Earl Thomas 8, Luke Keeckley, 9, Terrell Suggs, 10,
Starting point is 00:25:43 Vince Wilfork, 11, Adam Vintetary, 12. So I've got three, and then, so I'm just going to close my as a pick three lineman. No, no, no, no, get Woodson in there. Yeah, the Hall of Fame 50 member selection committee will vote. So let's say who for sure gets in. Drew Brees, for sure gets in. For sure. It's not Eli Manning's first year up, though. I believe last year was his first year, if I'm not crazy.
Starting point is 00:26:11 But some would say, I'm crazy. I mean, he's going in for sure, right? He won two Super Bowls. He won two Super Bowls. You need to be now. Well, he didn't go in first year. If I'm right, I could be wrong. Was Eli Manning up last year?
Starting point is 00:26:23 Eli Manning's first year, 2025. So last year or this year? This year? That'd be this year. Well, 2020. No, this is 2026 Hall of Fame semifinals. Oh, gosh. No, it says, no, it's not Eli Manning's first year.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Okay. Oh, my goodness. Yet I've never heard of any of the offensive linemen. I'm rain manning you guys on some of this stuff, but I'm like, no, Lomas Brown, never heard of them. Definitely, definitely Manning. I think Eli Manning can make it this year. Let's see, though, because I'm going to say if we do eight,
Starting point is 00:26:50 Drew Breeze, Eli Manning, Larry Fitzgerald is a for sure in. Yes. Let's do our for sure for sure's. Because Venetary didn't get in last year. He was one that was up and didn't get in. Like Luke Keekly has been retired. He's probably been up sometimes. It's the second year.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Okay, here's who for sure should get in. Drew Brees Larry Fitzgerald Suggs Or is he Hall of Very Good I think Hall of Very Good Okay Obviously Keekley didn't make it his first year
Starting point is 00:27:26 So he can't be a guaranteed What about Vince Wilford? No you might A little biased but I'd say yes He was the best defense to tackle For like 10 years That was good First year up
Starting point is 00:27:39 Yeah I believe No No. Thanks, Brandon. His first year was yes to everybody. His first year was 2022. Oh, gosh, he's been in for a bit then. Okay, then I'm just going to go.
Starting point is 00:27:51 The only ones that need to for sure get in are Drew Brees. Larry Fitzgerald. That's all. That for sure should get in. Wow. Because there's no. There's no, his longevity. He was a beast.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Third and all-time rushing. Longevity. Yeah. For sure. Like that was the crazy thing about him. He was really good. for a long, long, long, long time. I don't think he was ever like a top two back, though.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Do you? No, I don't. But he was a top eight back for 113 years. Like him and Joe Namath and 69 playing together? Oh, my God. That was crazy. Biggest episode of all time, John and Unitas. That was crazy.
Starting point is 00:28:31 All right. I just can't guarantee somebody's going to get in if they've already been up and didn't get in. So I guess my only two are going to be Drew Brees and Larry Fitzgerald. Reggie Wayne? that's I'm borderline That's right there too Because he was probably top what
Starting point is 00:28:46 Three receiver for a couple years But it can't be his first year Yeah It's a six year Yeah if it's not your first year I can't guarantee Because you've missed it so many times Yeah
Starting point is 00:28:57 All right that was a stupid conversation Moving on Cool Hey by the way I really like your hat This is uh Thanks for commenting on it This I wear this one
Starting point is 00:29:09 I want to keep pounding I didn't see it at first Yeah, man. It's camo. It's camo. But it does have a Panther logo on it. This is actually a Luke Combs, Carolina Panther collab. Oh, that makes sense with a camera.
Starting point is 00:29:22 It is, yeah. Yeah, I keep palming. Thanks, man. What did you think about that game? Didn't like it. No, it wasn't a good game. Frigant 49ers, this is a week later, or a few days later, but four and actually three interceptions and still, it's been the first half.
Starting point is 00:29:37 It's crazy, man. I won the game. Yeah. And got punching the nuts. Dude I would have That's worse than spitting I was crazy
Starting point is 00:29:45 Oh Was that the fight at the end Like physically hurt It hurts worse But I don't know if it's more disrespectful Because A purposeful spit Is done with full intention
Starting point is 00:29:56 A punch in the nuts Not this one But any punch in the nuts Can be accidental A punch in the nuts Like a tackle Like you can actually go to like Let's say knock out a ball
Starting point is 00:30:04 And you can hit somebody in the nuts You're not going to spit in somebody's Freakin face Like you're not in mid-tackle and while you tackle you accidentally go too. Yeah. You can get a little dribble on them. I think this spit. A little drool? Like pee dribble? No, like
Starting point is 00:30:18 When they're tackling, they're spit bouncing around in there. Oh yeah. But like a per... I don't know, they both suck. But an intentional nut punch. I know, that was so intentional. That's worse than a spit, right? It hurts more, but I don't think it's more disrespectful than a spit. Oof. I think spitting on someone is the absolute most. You are such garbage to me thing you could possibly do because it doesn't hurt. It is just the message
Starting point is 00:30:40 That's a good point It's gross, right? But I mean, how often Part of the nut punches it's supposed to hurt That's your manhood Yeah, dude And everyone knows how bad that hurts So if I'm gonna even think about punching you there
Starting point is 00:30:56 They also do that in the bottom of piles Even for somebody you don't even hate hate Like if there's a fumble People are grabbing nuts, twisting, just trying to do anything to get an advantage Yeah, but a full on upper cut was something else Yeah, it sucked Yeah
Starting point is 00:31:09 Chauncey Billis pleads not guilty Hmm Well yeah You got to You got to You got to You got to The Thanksgiving Day games
Starting point is 00:31:19 Which this is coming out Thanksgiving Day So maybe over Where are we watching this stuff? Netflix Oh they're not on regular TV Is it Netflix? I think Netflix has the
Starting point is 00:31:29 Black Friday game See Okay When they start doing this I'm putting games all days I don't even know I know I know
Starting point is 00:31:34 No I think Thursday's the regular networks Tooby will be streaming the Thanksgiving Day game. That's one of Mike's favorite places to watch anything. I love Tooby. It's underrated. He likes that in Crunchy Green. Crunchy roll. What is it called? Crunchy roll.
Starting point is 00:31:49 That's some good sushi there. Yeah, I do like that one. Tube will be streaming the Thanksgiving Day game between the Packers and Detroit Lions and the Super Bowl. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, the Fox and CBS for the first two games and then the night game is NBC Peacock.
Starting point is 00:32:05 So what's the point of Tooby streaming? So if you're not in front of a TV, you can just get the Tobey app and watch on your phone somewhere, maybe? What was your answer to that, Mike? I mean, yeah, just trying to get more people to go to Tubey. You're there watching the game and then, hey, this movie from the 90s I haven't seen in five years, check it out. The Loose Boys. Late the Wealthen 2's on? I can watch that after the game?
Starting point is 00:32:26 If there's any movie that I haven't seen that movie in a long time, Tubey probably has it. You know what point break came out on one of those today? That was such a good movie when we were young. Dude, so good. I watched the whole thing. You know that movie? Oh, yeah. Kiana Reese?
Starting point is 00:32:39 Yeah, yeah. Still holds up for you guys or no? I don't know. I haven't watched it in a hold-up time. I just remember it being awesome. I'm telling you guys, it was like a week ago, and I just like, it turned on my TV and it was playing, and I'm like, oh, I got to watch this.
Starting point is 00:32:49 It is good. It's really good. Do you go watch Stephen Wilson Jr.? Yeah. At the Ryman? Yeah, so I'm at the Ryman. I saw him at the Riemann. Yeah, like Mother Mary.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Yeah, like Mother Mary. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever all you guys are saying, that's what it was. Is it the hands or the lady? It's the lady with the virgin. Oh, yeah, she's the virgin. But what's the name?
Starting point is 00:33:12 Virkin de Wala Lupe. Mm-hmm. Birken. That, just like we said. So I saw that and thought, oh, that's cool. Then I saw some, like, TikToks from it. What did you think of the show? Yeah, I thought it was great.
Starting point is 00:33:21 He also has, like, a boxing ring set up because he was a boxer when he was a kid, I guess, growing up. So it's like a boxing ring. And he even has a guy, like, dressed up as an announcer or a judge. He's in, like, a white shirt with a bow tie. And he lets people in the ring, like, to bring him his, guitars and like guests. He plays in the ring? In the ring, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:39 That's cool. It's not fully closed off like the open or is in the front, but he, it's all surrounded him and his band was awesome. He was great. I mean, I don't know much of his music, but I know a few of his songs, but just talent wise, he was stupid good. Really? Yeah, like really good.
Starting point is 00:33:57 And his guitar playing is insane. He confused me of some stuff, but. I'm not so snob at music that I can just go to a show and enjoy anybody if they're good. I need them to blow me away or I need to know the songs. Have you ever just gone to a show where you didn't know who was playing and then fall in love with that band or that artist?
Starting point is 00:34:15 I've seen a couple openers that were like really awesome but I am not the person that can just go and enjoy a concert of songs I don't know. I need to know the songs unless it's like, holy crap, this is like, and I would need to even think because I know there have been a couple instances but none come to mind right now.
Starting point is 00:34:31 But any music questions you have, you should ask Brandon because Brandon is like one of the best musicians I know. So. Yeah. Can I ask you a few questions? Sure. Okay. This is coming from like obviously I don't know music the way that you guys do like the
Starting point is 00:34:45 ends and outs of it. By the way, Eddie and I are not on the same level as Brandon. You're not. No, well, Bobby and I are not on the same level. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. What were you going to say? No, like Bobby's the lowest level. Then me, then Brandon.
Starting point is 00:34:58 Why did you have to even bring that? I know. I just say if he wants to tear his questions. Maybe he has an elementary question. If we're doing the like performance. rankings, like stage presents? Yeah, just like... Oh, I'm number one.
Starting point is 00:35:12 I'm number one. Okay. Any sort of questions about music like tech stuff? Ask Brandon. Okay, yeah. I don't know if these are dumb questions or not, but he's up there.
Starting point is 00:35:22 He has an old guitar that he bought for like 400 bucks he talks about off Facebook marketplace, I believe. Wow. But it's an acoustic guitar. A what? An acoustic. Okay, so it's only because you've seen it
Starting point is 00:35:32 and you haven't heard it. So we're not going to judge you. That's not how it's said, though. Okay, see this, okay But When you've cracked him Wait, oh okay It does look like it would be
Starting point is 00:35:41 Acoustic It's called an acoustic Oh really? OU's like a O Acoustic? Acoustic, yeah Acoustic, yeah I've said acoustic my entire life
Starting point is 00:35:48 Nobody's ever correcting me You're a big guy with tattoos Stoned that out there Take that as a compliment Yeah, yeah Okay, he has an acoustic guitar And but when he was playing it
Starting point is 00:36:00 Like it sounded like a electric guitar Oh yeah So it's a classical guitar. It's got nylon strings. Okay. And he's got pedals that he plugs into to give him like delay and overdrive and all that kind of stuff. So he's trying to bridge the gap of, and I've heard him say this.
Starting point is 00:36:20 I'm trying to bridge the gap. Oh, you should have just went with it. He shouldn't have, yeah. Oh, no. Keep going. He's huge like Kurt Cobain Nirvana. He covered Nirvana one song. Yep.
Starting point is 00:36:28 And so he wants to bring that classical nylon, Willie Nelson, plays the same kind of guitar and he wants to bring in that 90s grunge together with country So his pedals, like the technology he's using is making that acoustic sound a little more electric. But if he just unplugs everything
Starting point is 00:36:48 then it does it just sound like an acoustic guitar? Oh really? I don't want to accuse you accuse you. Acuse you. Acuse you. He didn't want to accuse you. Okay and another question how to do with the pedals because he had them all over the stage. Usually I see him right where the mic is,
Starting point is 00:37:04 but he had him off to the left and the right because he was running around. He'd press it and then run to the other side just keep playing, press another one. So that's what it is. It just makes it sound different. So yeah, so if you're going into, say, like a chorus from a verse, you got to kick in like a distortion or an overdrive. Or if a delay is going somewhere.
Starting point is 00:37:21 You're saying words, though, that I don't think. Oh, I'm so sorry. So sorry. Overdrive. Yeah, overdrive. My bad. So overdrive kind of elevates the sound of the guitar. It gives it a different effect.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Like, you know, you hear a clean sounding guitar. And then you hear like a distorted, like, gz-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-h. Like over-modulation, how we do our stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like something sounds like... And if something's, like, delayed, like, he has a lot of delay stuff and, like, yeah, you know. I was going to say he's got a lot of, like, the reverb sound to it.
Starting point is 00:37:54 Yes, yes. Yeah. He wanted to probably either elevate that effect or just take it completely out, because it's a different part of the song. Okay. So is that like its own... Because it sounded different. Like his music, his style just sounded different.
Starting point is 00:38:09 I enjoyed it. I thought the reverb. I thought the echo was great. But is that like its own... I don't know what I mean? Like style, I guess? I would say so. I mean, I don't see a lot of country artists doing that.
Starting point is 00:38:22 You know, especially like in their recordings and live. Like you don't see Riley Green up there with a bunch of pedals. No. Like he's just acoustic and acoustic. But he's trying to really like, I think Stephen Wilson Jr. was in a lot of rock bands and stuff like that. His wife is actually the lead singer of Sixpence Nun the Richer. Lee Nash is his wife? You know that?
Starting point is 00:38:45 That one. He brought her out when I was there. Lee Nash. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's his wife. What? That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:38:51 That's crazy. Yeah, she sang with him that night. She's been in here. Dude, that's the most shocking thing I've heard in days. Right? And I've heard some pretty shocking stuff. Pretty shocking stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Especially about the Arkansas coaching service. Yeah, yes, yes, yes. Dude, the acoustics in here are great. They are in the way. Yeah. A good show? You love the show? Oh, it was awesome.
Starting point is 00:39:07 And to your point, like, I didn't know much of his music. And I'm kind of the same way. I'm like, yeah, I don't know. But it was just a great show. My mom wanted to go. She's in town. Did she like him? And she was watching the CMAs, watched him perform.
Starting point is 00:39:18 And she texted me. She's like, hey, he's playing at the rhyme. And like, do you want to go? And it's like, yeah, sure. Very cool. She loved it. She's a big music junkie. Her mom's favorite band is the food fighters.
Starting point is 00:39:26 His mom. Yeah. Her mom? His mom. Her mom? Did I say her mom? Yeah, you did. Oh, gosh.
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Starting point is 00:44:03 Dub. Guys, this is it. I mean, everything changed. when they beat the Eagles. Everything changed. We're brand new. This is a legit shot to make the playoffs. We have to win.
Starting point is 00:44:18 We have to beat... Can you pull up the Cowboy schedule, please? Even if we lose today to the Chiefs, right? Today. Today. Today. Today. We lose the game today.
Starting point is 00:44:29 I still think our schedule is easy enough to win at least four more games. And if we win four more games, if the Lions start losing a little bit, If the 49ers can lose a little bit, we're in it, baby. Yeah, you're doing some ifs, though. I know. There's a lot. A lot of moving parts.
Starting point is 00:44:45 Okay, so let's walk through it. Go, Chiefs. Chiefs. I'm just going to do what I think. Loss. At the Lions. That's a win. That's a win.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Have you seen the Lions lately? Okay, you know what? Win. Put it as a win. Vikings at home. That's a win. No, I'm not talking to you. I'm doing it.
Starting point is 00:45:03 You're going to do all wins. Go ahead. No, I'm not. No, I'm not. No, no, no, you're all. You're out. Go. Chargers at home.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Don't be stupid. You know the answer. I can't even play the game. When? At Washington. When? At the Giants. When?
Starting point is 00:45:20 That's it. You see what I'm saying? You see what I'm saying? I think they'll probably drop one of those games, though, between the Chargers and the lions. They're possibly even both. But I do think that they could win a bunch of these games. Yeah, the problem is, though, when they get in the playoffs, they care. Yeah, just get there.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Just get to the playoffs. I know. Because before this game, we were looking at we're not even making the playoffs. And we made moves. We changed our defense up. We are making moves. This is amazing, dude. So 9 and 8, that's always a strong possibility you can get in.
Starting point is 00:45:54 But we saw the Bengals last year not get in at 9 and 8. But 9, 7 and 1. That one, baby. From that tie. Oh, I think we need the Packers to kind of take a dump too. You need that because you're, dude, you're going to. going to end up costing us so much money in our Don't start. Don't start. Don't start because I'm
Starting point is 00:46:10 not the only one anymore. Now Baker's kind of hurting us a little bit. What do you got to say about that? That wasn't our second round pick. Yeah. And it wasn't between them and anybody. Anybody. And I understand. But you know, like the owners of the Bengals, they didn't expect this to happen. No, no, no. I know. But I was just like,
Starting point is 00:46:28 hey, let's go with the Packers. And you're like, no, Bengals. I had a feeling. Yeah. And they still could win a bunch of games. Burroughs going to come back and play. Yeah. He's back, baby. Today? Tonight. Or Black Friday. No.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Bears and Eagles Black Friday. Tube? To be? Wait, there are three games today? Yeah, there are three games. No way. I didn't know that. It's been like that for a while for Thanksgiving.
Starting point is 00:46:50 Depending on when people are listening, there's already one on. Okay, so we back, baby? We back, baby. The official statement from the Dallas Cowboys? How shocked were you when they won that game? You won money, right? Yeah, I won a lot because while we were down recording at my house during the game, I put $100 on the money line
Starting point is 00:47:09 when it was like plus $500. Oh, nice. I only did it in solidarity with Eddie and they were down one touchdown. They were down a touchdown and the Eagles had the ball. Dude, when we went back to the house and the Eagles fumbled that punt,
Starting point is 00:47:22 I was like ball game and the Cowboys couldn't score. Yeah, and then I was like ball game back. We lose. Dude, Pickens is so good. So good. So good. Which is another thing too.
Starting point is 00:47:33 Like my kids are doing their Christmas list. They all want George Pickens' jerseys. Which, awesome, right? But I don't even know if he's going to be a cowboy. True. They could franchise tag him. Yep. They could just pay him.
Starting point is 00:47:47 I doubt they let him go free agent. There's no way, right? Yeah, you have to tag him. So also with Pickens, I think what helps is there's a wide receiver that's slightly better than him that plays on the other side of him, which keeps everybody from double-teaming him. It's like a pass rusher who has somebody on the other side.
Starting point is 00:48:04 There's a reason that a lot of those guys, other than Miles Gere. But also Miles Garrett has a little help now too on the Cleveland defensive line. Yeah. 30 lines pretty good. Yeah. If you have another great pass rusher,
Starting point is 00:48:14 it's hard for them to double you all game. So it does open it up to get a lot of sacks. Same with these wide receivers. If you've got two really good wide receivers, that number two guy eats because they're doubling up CD, but now they're having to like decide. They're having to roll coverages and double up one or the other before Dallas even figures out who's getting doubled
Starting point is 00:48:33 because those receivers are so good. If you're George Pickens, man, you just made a lot of money. If you were in Pittsburgh, you're just a crazy guy who's going to continue to be high potential, high ceiling guy
Starting point is 00:48:42 that never made it. Probably not worth the problems you cause. In Dallas, one, there's enough problems. You're not the only problem in town. There's a lot of problems. Yep.
Starting point is 00:48:51 And then two, Cid Lam lines up across from you. And he's awesome. Although he did drop a big ball. He's dropping balls, dude. Don't get me started. We've already done this. Well, it was last year.
Starting point is 00:49:00 This is the last year when I was like, Cidlam does not have great hands. Yeah. But he has great hands. He's a great wide. He's a great white wide receiver. He's just dropping balls, like out of nowhere. Piggins has a great hand.
Starting point is 00:49:12 Him and Rogers would have been fun in Pittsburgh, though. Rogers isn't fun. You mean playing together? Yeah, just yelling at each other. And Roger sucks. Yeah. He's going to play with his hurt wrist. He is?
Starting point is 00:49:25 It's broken, right? And then complain about it when he leaves. It's like fractured. Okay. He's broken. He has ruined his legacy. Yeah. He's been bad so long now that there's going to be a generation of folks.
Starting point is 00:49:36 football fans that only remember bad Aaron Rogers. That's a good point. Because I think you can play bad for a couple years, and that's fine. Like Brett Farve, he was actually pretty good with the Jets. He was actually pretty... But he wasn't the same, but you can have a couple bad years in your latter years and be fine because we remember all the good years. If you keep playing for another five to seven years and you suck in all those five to seven years,
Starting point is 00:50:00 young people are just going to remember all the suck. They're not going to remember any of the good. No, I'm telling you, my kids, like the other day, they were asking like, why does this guy still play? Like, why is he, is he good or something? Because I don't get it. There you go. Because they never got to see him be awesome. Yeah, I was like, he was good at one time, guys.
Starting point is 00:50:15 Really good. All right. Tom Brady's the one that did it right, man. Like, he will just, not only did he just keep playing, he won a Super Bowl. Well, he did it right is he went to a team that was loaded enough to win a Super Bowl. Yeah. But no one's even going to think about that. No, no, that's true.
Starting point is 00:50:33 But I'm saying Aaron Rogers didn't do that. He didn't. And also he, he, He played one play. Yeah. The injury just ruined everything. Yeah. But also he didn't play well
Starting point is 00:50:43 as last year in Green Bay either. Because he had a wrist issue. Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah. And then he did the dramatic walk-off. Tom Brady did the smart thing because I don't think Tom, I think Tom Brady was a
Starting point is 00:50:53 some, you know, he was a soft shell of his former self. But you go somewhere with what Bruce Ariens was the coach. The offensive line was good. He had weapons. Like he went somewhere. He did pretty much what Peyton Manning did.
Starting point is 00:51:07 I think Tom Brady was the coach of that team. They would go to the sideline, and sometimes you'd see Aaron and just be like, whatever you want, dude. Like, Peyton Manney went to Denver, and Denver was loaded. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And won Super Bowls. More super, over there.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Yeah, won a Super Bowl there. And that last year was brutal for him physically. Remember, he couldn't throw 15 yards? Couldn't move his freaking head. His neck was so bad. But he had some dudes around him. Remember when his wife? The story was, his wife was getting all of the HGH. vaguely.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Shipped to her, right? Yeah, shipped to her. What's H-G-H? Performance and hands? Human growth hormone, yeah. Yeah, Mike, would you mind Googling that so I'm going to pay to Manning Joe? Sounds like a nice deal, though.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Because they never actually found him guilty, but I think she was getting a lot of it, and it was like, let's... Yeah, and he was like supposedly using it. Connect, I don't know, who knows? But I would, I would be. Yeah. I had to shoot, I've hurt myself up,
Starting point is 00:52:03 hurt myself a couple times. I've had to shoot myself up with stuff. Like, do you actually do it yourself? The shot and everything? Oh, I can't do that. You can. You can because you pinch your stomach. That like that little, because where we get our fat first, you pinch your stomach.
Starting point is 00:52:17 You don't really feel it there. Or you can do your butt. But I've had a couple, like, injuries where I was prescribed, like, peptides, some more HGH type stuff, just to get back to normal. Mike, do you see anything? Yeah, no credible evidence was found. Exactly. For what, though? that they were sending his wife, Ashley Manning, this HGH.
Starting point is 00:52:41 Man, I don't think my wife would do that for me. Yeah, you do. If that's your career and your life and your livelihood, for sure. Okay, what would be comparable to what we do? Ooh, somebody else's voice? Nothing, because you don't make the money or have the kind of success or the Hall of Fame career. I know, but my family depends on me.
Starting point is 00:53:00 So, like, what would she get shipped to her house? that would help me in my work. A recording of somebody else's voice. You know? No, because I still think you would be able to, like, edit. Okay. Like video. I was seeing like a software or something.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Yeah, me too. I don't really think you're known for your voice. I just don't think my wife would do that, but I guess she would. You're a pastor. Got a whole on one at church. Dude, it's so freaking annoying. Like, he gets up there at church, and I'm never mad at church. I love church.
Starting point is 00:53:32 I'm never mad at church. Because you're gambling the whole time. No, no, no, no, I gamble before I get to church. Oh, that's true. I get to church and, like, I'm in a good move. We've already said hi to everyone. We're drinking our coffee and the pastor comes up there. He's like, starts talking about how he just started playing golf.
Starting point is 00:53:47 And I'm like, oh, that's cool. We started playing six months ago. He was out with some friends and it was up time for him to hit. So he gets a, you know, a little eight iron. He's like, it's not good. It's not a great shot. It kind of like to the right of the green. But then it starts kind of looping back.
Starting point is 00:54:03 around. It keeps rolling and rolling. Next thing you know, I get a hole in one. And then he flashes up a picture of him and the ball. And I'm like, did he just say he's been playing for six months and he got a hole in one? Dude, immediately I was pissed. Dude, dude's lying for the sermon. Oh, you think so? He's lying. He didn't have anything to talk about. He's like, I know what I'm saying today. Yeah. I've never like, I'd get happy for people to get hole in Once. If I'm with you, dude, and you get a hole in one, I'm like, let's go. Water. The fact that this dude's been playing for six months and gets a hole in one, I was pissed.
Starting point is 00:54:41 Did you walk out? Was it also, had you lost some bets earlier before? No, it was too early. The game's hadn't started yet. Because I get in moods to, well, I'll fight people on Twitter. It's not even their fault. I wonder if you're mad at your, if Arkansas loses, I'm like, I'm ready to fight. It's starting to be a thing where my kids are like, if I'm in a bad mood, they're like,
Starting point is 00:54:56 oh, dad's bets aren't going well. Oh, man. I'm like, no, that's not it, guys. It's not it. They're going to say that crap in therapy when they get older. It's the fact that you can't turn off the lights when you're out of the bathroom. We knew we had to walk on eggshells when dad's bets were going on. His parlay didn't hit.
Starting point is 00:55:12 Do we, Mike, do we have to do a parlay? We don't have to. Cool. Take the week off. Cool. Take the week off so we can just enjoy some football. This is good for us, guys. Do a bye week in a parlay?
Starting point is 00:55:25 Let's do it. Let's do one. A Black Friday Parlay. Well, so Friday and Saturday games? Yeah, there's a lot on both days. You want to do a four-gamer and then just blame everybody who lost? Hey, there you go.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Okay. I'll go first. Indiana minus 28 and a half at Purdue. When in doubt. I knew that was happening. Oh, Purdue. You're going to go against... Coach Odom?
Starting point is 00:55:51 I'm like going against him. You are? By taking that big. Dude, I really think of stuff like that one, I bet. I don't want to go against Odom. I just... So I skipped that game. I would rather not lose
Starting point is 00:56:03 in our little group of shame. So I'm going to go with that one. Kevin? Yeah, I'm going to keep riding that sooner train minus 10 against LSU at home. Yeah, at Oklahoma, right? Yeah, I don't think LSU can put it more than 10 points.
Starting point is 00:56:20 Yep. They should have redo senior night for Coach Kelly and his son. I know, just those two. At Oklahoma because I'll let them in. For sure. You know, like when they do like the weddings at hospitals and stuff?
Starting point is 00:56:33 It should do that for that. It should be a tell me something good, where they get to redo senior night for LSU. They reenacted. He gets to walk out and get a ball with his dad. What a moment. Bard from the stadium. That would be sweet. Hey, Oklahoma, you know what to do.
Starting point is 00:56:50 Make it happen. Brandon. Oregon minus seven over Washington. Okay. Eddie. I'm doing it. And this is the one that's going to hit, boys. The Texas A&M Aggies.
Starting point is 00:57:04 Minus two and a half over the long horns. In Austin, right? Mike, you going? Nah. Staying here. Oh, that sounded really sad, Mike. No. No, I just think we're going to lose that game.
Starting point is 00:57:16 Okay, really bad. Oh, you think you're going to lose it really bad? Like, more than two points? Three points? I don't. I think so. I don't. I think the sports world hates me so much.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Texas is going to freaking win this game. Oh, because of you? Yeah, I'll be the alone reason. I have that kind of power. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. All right, that's it. Thank you all. I hope you have a wonderful rest of the holiday.
Starting point is 00:57:42 Wonderful. Don't eat too much. Don't overdo it. Maybe you've already eaten a lot. Well, I'm talking about the leftovers. Oh, continuing. My problem is the pie, man. Especially when I don't need the pie. I don't need another slice of pie. But the fact that there's pie left, I always have to get some. You have some of my weight. It's being dairy-free.
Starting point is 00:58:01 Yeah. I would overeat like crazy. That's huge. Now I just am sad. That's the change out. Instead of being like so full and ashamed of myself because I've overeaten, I don't eat it at all.
Starting point is 00:58:16 I don't get it, so I'm sad. It's like either way you're going to be sad. Yeah, so I've traded shame for sadness. That's good. But overall, health wins in this. Health wins. I miss the shame. Yeah.
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