The Bobby Bones Show - 25W: LIVE From Tucson! + Bobby's Bad Investment + Arizona Head Coach Brent Brennan

Episode Date: July 12, 2024

The guys are in Tucson, Arizona after making the trip out west to film Too Much Access with the Arizona Wildcats football team, and Bobby talks about his bad investments on NFT's. Plus, Arizona head football coach, Brent Brennan, sits down with Bobby and Eddie to talk about his Mt. Rushmore of music, first year as head coach in the program, and much more!    Follow the Show: @25Whistles Follow the Crew: @MrBobbyBones @ProducerEddie @KickoffKevin @MikeDeestro @ReidYarberrySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. All right, we're in Tucson, Arizona. Thank you guys, 25 whistles. We're going to get with the head coach, Coach Brennan in just a few minutes. Wait, Brent, Brennan. Brent, Brennan.

Confusing name. Brent, Brin. Oh, gosh, and you're Bobby B.B. No, no, listen to me. Brent, brin. No, but it's two syllables of that. Brant, brann. No, but still it starts and is it.

Brent, Brennan. Brent, Brann. Yeah, that's. So anyway. Coach Brennan, who is in Arizona, which it's a weird situation for him because he comes in after Arizona was awesome last year. They're expected to be awesome this year. And if you don't know if you're not completely dialed in, you're just like, congrats on last season. Let's do it again.

And he's like, I wasn't here last year. And a lot of times, not the case. He's in an interesting situation. Always been kind of a West Coast guy, though. Yeah. All his schools, when it came from San Jose State. Eddie had to bring up in the interview how they beat us at Arkansas. I was not going to bring it up.

I don't bring it up at Western Kentucky. It's stupid. It was a big win for him, man. One of his biggest wins. The best part was I told Eddie on the plane when I was doing some prep stuff. I was like, hey, did you know about this? And he's like, no. Does Bobby know?

And I was like, I don't know. Probably. I'm sure he does. And I went right over there the next year. And he's like, don't tell Bobby. I'm going to bring it up. Give that to me. Well, there was a ball behind him too.

And Eddie spotted the ball and was like, hey, so that's coming out of just a few minutes. I do want to talk about this because I don't know how many of you guys were doing top shot. Top shot. Top shot. Yeah, there's buying those, like, NFT, NBA. Oh, oh, oh, I did it for a little bit. I did it for about a year, yeah. I invested $200 and then cashed out at $1.90.

Oh, so you got out out. Yes, it's done done. So I was reading a story about them because you, our buddy Steve, lunchbox. Yes. I just remember you guys would stay and like buy Top Shot and look for moments. NFTs? Yeah. Yeah.

And so I did see last night where Top Shot is now paying if you have one of their one-of-one moments because people are spending $125,000 dollars yeah 150,000 dollars on some of those big ones they are guaranteeing for every one of those moments now 12 cents wow bottom what a scam bottom down hey dude why 12 I don't know that's a random number some sort of lawsuit uh it's now not treated as like a you know like an investment it's more like a hobby dude everybody they got those got got yeah i mean nfts too right like that was like the whole idea of it's just an image and you own that image now there are 30 000 images of that but no not that one you own that one i never understood it anyway okay what i would argue that with is

if you own a song you wrote okay 10 000 people have it but you actually own it and you can make the money off of it and if you want to resell it you could sell it for like if somebody sells their Sure. They're selling a song that everybody has. So why would you spend all the money on it? It's a version of that. But it was a picture of say that month. Prescott. Oh, I was talking about like the NFTs. But you know those apes? The, the, the, uh, the pictures of all the apes that were going for like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You had one of like, like, uh, Dirk. Wait, was it Dirk Novitsky? I bought like four or five. I want to hear your what you're talking about. But I bought like four or five. And I never got into it. I got into it for a more than you did as I tend to with everything yeah yeah and what's funny what's up

makes that makes perfect and he does his one dollar parleyes and you're doing your $500 yeah I tend to cannibal into things um but I bought like a Dirk Novitsky cartoon drawing by like a famous NFT artist and I probably spent like a thousand dollars on it and that one you can now get for 12 cents. I don't know and I actually have bought a few of them and I've stored them on open C which I believe is like an NFC NFT website. Okay. I don't know anything about this. I'm going to be wrong a bit in describing this. I got an offer for one of them yesterday and I don't know which one I need to check. I don't even my password. What a coincidence. I know. I need to go into my email and look in a second. I got an offer. I don't know which one but they're just sitting there. It's like

sitting where like a market. Yeah. You know how you can eBay has like the eBay vault. and so you can buy something and it'll just go to the eBay vault and then whenever you want to sell it, they'll list it and sell it for you and then you get the money, but you don't have to sell it right then, and you don't have to receive it.

It goes to what's considered the vault. And so it's a bit like that where you buy it through them, then they just hold it basically and other people can look at it and they can buy it if they want. It's kind of like an open marketplace the whole time,

but I'll look in a few minutes and... That's weird. That's weird that just happened. And I need to see what my value is on these things because I'm sure it's like 13 cents I just I just remember the conversation of like well what is it it's nothing

it's an image yeah but but they would be like having an original painting of someone when there's 10,000 as well but you have the original one that they made yeah but that would be the original too that was made digitally but it's exactly like all the other

you're talking like a grandpa but it's like a this is the same conversation we had two years by the way but it's like starry night there's 10,000 of those that have been made you want the one that Van Gogo you do uh yeah okay the one that he did. The one that he painted. And the person that made the NFT is a specific person, an artist that made that. Okay. So it is different than the hot shots or whatever we're talking about. Yes. Top shots. Yes. That's just a version of it. Okay. Because top shots was just dude.

But that's a one of one of one of Dak Prescott like just he was throwing the ball, but no one else has that picture. It's not a picture. Live moments though too, like three second live moments. Correct. You own the live moment. You own that live moment. So like live like of some, You take a picture on a cell phone and it's got the three seconds. And value is just what it's sold for, right? Yeah. So, for example, baseball cards, football cards. Really, what are they worth?

A penny. Right. It's just paper. But there is an entire culture that is assigned value to certain cards. And as soon as that collapses, then they're worth nothing because it's only worth what is deemed valuable by the people inside that culture. Correct. It's like our money. Yeah.

I want to get into that whole conversation. I think we have talked about this. But 12 cents. Okay. So what does that mean then? So what does that mean that now when they were spending thousands of dollars on these things? And now they're just 12 cents. A lot of them, there's nothing.

They've lost their money. Yeah. Do you even sell or you just? For 12 cents? I know. I'm just not worth it. Or in your own head are you like, I'm sticking it to the man. I'm keeping this thing.

We're riding it out. I'm out of here. Are you buzzed out of the conversation? I buzzed out of, no, I buzzed out of being on. Anyway, it was 12 cents. That's all. And you guys used to buy them. I want to know how much you spent on them.

That's all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I lost $10 on it. They never bought one. The guy who is playing ball, basketball, and he can never play basketball again because, Jonte Porter. That's what you had? No, thank God.

But I was switching it up to zero since. He admitted Wednesday that he schemed to take himself out of games for gambling sake, pleading guilty to a federal conspiracy crime in this scandal. They'd already got him banned from the league. So basically, he was like, all right, I'm going to probably play this much if my over-under is four rebounds, I'm going to act hurt early in the game, so I can't get that.

Dang. So then everybody would make money that knew about it. Now, if you're his teammate, do you think you have any idea? It just depends. Or you're like, dang, how often he does.

First of all, he's probably suss anyway, right? Like, there are a lot of people in your life who do that kind of crap that aren't already doing other crap like that, maybe not exactly the same, but suss folks are suss folks. And so I don't think people

we're surprised but when he does it a couple of times or a few times, I think they're probably surprised that he would do something so stupid and lose his entire career. How did he get caught? Remember it was draft kings went to the NBA and was like, hey, I think we have an issue here. They were seeing a trend.

And then the NBA investigated it. I mean, those guys have great data. Because they're like, who the heck is betting on John T. Porter? That's what it was. What do you even know that he's going to lead? Big bets from John Tate Porter, who is a role player at best. Yeah, played two minutes a game. It was like, He said, I know that what I did was wrong and lawful, and I'm deeply sorry. The former Toronto Raptor Center said, as he pleaded guilty to conspiracy to commit wire fraud,

he admitted to doing it and said his reason was to get out from under large gambling debts. Oh, of course. He's Jason. Hey, him and Otani's translator. They probably hang out a lot. Porter is free on $250,000 bond. Prosecutors estimated his sentence at a range from just under three and a half years in prison to a little over four years. Which means he'll probably do like nine months or something if he does.

Community service. If he does go in. another thing was the big news was but before we get to coach here that i saw that there were a bunch of schools that could possibly go into the big 12 which is now conference three of the three big bigs i mean the acc is probably the four for ranking them it's it's cc for sure one big 10 now two mhm acc three yep big 12 four yeah pack 12 high we forgot pack two pack yes yeah what's weird too is like Big Ten didn't have ten schools anymore. They should change those names.

And they used to change them, right? The Big 12 used to be the Big Ten. Yeah. Like they, but that's even confusing. So Big 12 lost two and they gained how many? Well, so here's the story is that what they're, the SEC apparently turned down Florida State and Clemson, which is surprising to me.

Those are two Real Deal schools, two Blue Blood programs. Sure. Especially for football. Because Florida State is okay at basketball sometimes. Clemson really doesn't play basketball, do they? They had to get run this year. They were okay.

They were okay. Remember they had a couple of... I had them. I had them. Yeah, yeah. And by a team. They might have made it to the lead eight. I guess I don't think of them as like traditionally in the tournament.

Baseball, they're wrong. The two money sports, football and then basketball. Yeah. Those are real teams. But apparently, according to Greg Swam, he said that both were turned down by the SEC and then the Big 10 and the Big 12 is now in pursuit of those two and then four other teams as well. Oh boy. So the Big 12 is looking to make a move.

In Big 20. Yeah, the Big 500. I know. The Big 20. Now does it come a competition of like how many teams do you have? Right, right. How big is yours? Exactly.

It's a measuring contest. That's pretty cool though that the SEC can be, it's such an elite club where they're like, we don't need you. But then they still have Vandy in there. But Vandy deserves to be in there because Vandy was in when the end wasn't awesome. I know, but we're making all these changes and you want to stay an elite conference. It keeps the GPA up too. That's true. They're so smart. And rich. And that, you know, they're graduating.

So we went on to say, but from Vegas, the talk is the SEC has now turned the pair down with new sponsorship. The Big 12 probably won't pay quite what the other two would, but they will pay double what the ACC does. Swam was confident in his prediction and relayed that the SEC and Big Ten might not add any new programs for a while. So the other schools, do you have the other schools? Because I saw them yesterday. It's like, NC State. Oh, bless you. Thank you.

NC State, Virginia Tech. Let's talk individually. NC State. Basketball, powerhouse. Are they a power? I think they used to be. I mean, yeah, he just got drafted. Jimmy Valvano.

Big Burns just got drafted. You're right. They're done. They were good this year. But I think of them universally. Like, are they, they're okay, right? Yeah. Basketball.

Football. No. No, not really. And really, when you get. consider a school coming to a conference. If you're not A plus basketball, you better be good at football. Hey, dude, real quick, I'm sorry, your burp smells so bad. Yeah, what is that?

That's a drive. It's not a truck driving by. I was like, dude. What did you eat? It's still lingering. Yeah, I was like, are you just slowly like letting it out right now? And the more you talk, man, the worse. It's getting.

The timing of that. That would be funny. Okay, go ahead. Sorry. NC State. Their value. Football, let's rate it with a grade. Football.

C. yeah sure basketball B minus okay that's fair fair okay

let's go Virginia Tech okay football B yeah basketball oh

I mean I don't sometimes they sometimes they creep in there but yeah I'm very often I mean all these teams sometimes yeah

football school like I think of them I have it yeah and Mike Vic and I mean, 10 years ago, this was an A team in football. Yeah.

Louisville. I mean, they're difficult because they're... You give them C pluses? Both? Here's the problem. Basketball have been terrible lately. Yes. But when I think of them, I still think of them because it hasn't been 100 years that they've been mediocre.

They've been really good. I would go basketball, be overall. Last 25 years. I'm going to go B. Is that what you're doing past 25 years? That's fair. My life. Okay.

All right. Oh, then yeah. For sure, it's B. And then football, listen, they've had some really good years for sure, but they don't play. Football, I'm going to give them a B minus. And that's a high grade. That's more recency than anything. Yeah.

Sure. Okay. In Miami. This will be another team. Oh, man. That's tough. Okay. But Miami is what Texas is, except Texas actually got good last year.

Uh-huh. But it's like, is Miami back? basketball final four last year yeah yeah basketball B minus but have been good at times lately but I'm still gonna go be minus yeah okay so are we doing the 25 years okay let's call that then all yeah oh yeah I'll say B B minus yeah you mean the start of the last of the 25 years yeah football I would even say B plus because gosh man those was a whole time just from how legendary the brand is yeah yeah can you guys hear the airplane I wonder where they're going

Yeah. You do that? You do that? Where do you guys go? There's an app. Do you know there's an app where you can take a picture of the plane? It tells you exactly where it's going, where it came from? If you take a picture of the plane?

It's way up there. There's something where it reads the tail number. Even if you can't see it on the picture. Yeah, honestly. I don't know. Somebody told me about the app. I don't have it. Tucson looks at a pretty good train system.

They're bouncing back in order. This is the most ADD podcast. Yeah, yeah. Okay, anyway, the SEC said no. Big Tint said no. But the Big 12, I think that would make them a lot stronger because there are more, I won't say blue blood, but foundational athletic programs that would be in the conference. They need it. They do need it because right now they are in fourth place.

But I think if they did this, they would catch the ACC. Yeah. Because they would take Florida State. They would take Clemson. And then also Miami. Miami and Virginia Tech. Oh, Georgia Tech's another one. Oh, yeah.

Gosh, that's tough, dude. But I think these programs are programs that we know have won and have a bunch of money. Yeah. It could be good. Yeah. They're strong programs. Now, speaking to strong programs, let's go over here. Let's take a quick break.

And we'll go and let's talk to Arizona head football coach, Brent, Brant. Brett, Brennan. All right. All right. Coach, we're here right after media days. I apologize. We're doing it right after. But being in the Big 12 now, like, what's the difference in the Big 12 media days as opposed to not being in this conference?

Not even the school, but you not being in the conference. Like what's that media like compared to the past that you've been in? Yeah, this one had obviously a lot more fanfare to it. The venue was incredible. We were at the, you know, on the floor or on the field at Allegiance Stadium. And, you know, there was, I was explaining it to one of our players because they had watched all the clips on social media. And when I was sitting on the stage there, there was literally like 50 yards of media,

you know, not paying attention while I was up there. but like some guys ask questions. So yeah, it was just, it was a lot of fun. This is extremely well done, kind of the first time for all of us to be together as a conference. And so, you know, the Big 12 definitely put their best foot forward. A lot of new. You're new here. The school is new in the conference.

It feels a bit like it could be a culture change just for everyone. Because, again, you're playing schools you never played before. Or that the school is really never. played before. There's no history. So do you have to go and kind of watch tape of every school, have your scouting department watch tape of every school like baseline before the season starts? You always do that. And actually, I got this question yesterday, so I'm ready. But the other part that happens is by the time you play your conference opponents, you've already played two, three, four, five games. And so by then, you're really basing everything off of what's happening

in the 2024 season, especially in the era of Transfer Portal. Rosters are changing over so many different players as part of rosters. We definitely went through the spring and the early summer and did preliminary scouting reports of our opponents, but the majority of those kind of those schematic decisions will be made based on the guys that are playing this year. It feels like when you come in now because of the portal and the option for kids to jump out,

that you have to move into the house and welcome everybody really quickly to get them to stay quicker than ever before because they can. Do you feel that like as soon as you're hired, do you have to get here and start cultivating relationships immediately? That's exactly what we did. Actually, right here in this office, my first day I met the team, which was a Tuesday. I met him at four o'clock. And after that, I had a conversation with Noah Fafita and said, hey, why don't you get some of the guys together tomorrow that you think I need to talk to? And let's sit down. and let's just talk. And so the next day at 2 o'clock, after my press conference, I came in here, and there was 25 kids. And we sat here, and I sat up there, and they just kind of filled the room,

and they just fired questions at me. I said, ask whatever you want, because it was that. Like, I needed to give them a chance to get to know me. Obviously, they know each other, but I need to give them a chance to get to know me. It was great. And when we were done, it took about two hours. And when we were done, I said, have this feel? And they're like, this is cool, you know, all right. And I said, okay, you guys want to do it again tomorrow? And they said, yeah. So the next day, you know, plus or minus a few players, the same group came back. And we went through the same thing with a bunch of different questions. And it was that. It was absolutely trying to get to know each other as fast as we could. I feel like day one may be a lot of questions about the scheme.

If they want to stay, if it's going to make sense, how many kids are you planning? Do you plan on giving the run it? Day two is like, what color are the cleats? I mean, is that kind of how it went like day two? They want to know like the cool things? No, I would say there was some of that in day one, too. The cleat question was the first day. And I told them, yeah, I don't care as long as they're Nike. You know, I said if I care about that, we got much bigger problems, you know, on game day. So, you know, every head coach is different. Every head coach has their own style, their own philosophy, the stuff they believe in. And I was just trying to give them an idea of what was going to be important to me and what I was going to want to make sure they understood where I was coming from on certain things.

and I wanted to hear what they thought. You know, because I think sometimes players don't think they have any say in their program. That's not my style. Like, I want them to have all to say. You know, I know the buck stops with me and I get that, but I want them to understand that they have input here and we're going to make decisions together that directly impact our football team. You mentioned Noah specifically, obviously crazy baller.

As soon as you get the job, do you call him even quicker than getting here to make sure that he's committed to staying? Like, was there a back channel with him? Do you knew he wanted to stay? What was that process like? No, it really wasn't like that. It all happened pretty fast. And so I was just trying to get down here and get a chance to get to meet everybody.

So on the first day, I met everybody briefly. It was pretty quick. And then after the team meeting and the guys broke up and left, I had to go over to HR. And Noah jumped on the back of the golf cart I was in with my wife. and they whisked me into HR and we're talking for a minute and she comes in and interrupt she's like hey I think you need to sit out with Noah Fafita I'm like way to go babe you know like she was on you know she was on and he and I had a great conversation and that's what that was the start of the plan to try and get everybody together the next two days he still didn't know I don't

think he wasn't sure you know he was interviewing me as much as I was trying to get to know him Coach, I want to talk about the heat a little bit. It's serious over here. How does it play a role in how you do practices or how you just work in it? Well, it's funny. You know, I think the heat, the cold, it doesn't matter. Like those things are one of the one deal that allows us like players, coaches, people to make excuses to not play well or practice hard. So I'm always like, yeah, it doesn't matter.

Like if you get drafted in Green Bay, are you not going to play? Of course you're going to play, right? So for the heat here, like I actually love it. I'll take the heat over the cold or the heat over the rain any day. So far it's been good. But we've always been a morning practice team. So we'll practice in the morning and we'll be off the field by 12, 12, 30 every day. In Colorado, if you run, your lungs are better when you're not in Colorado because the elevation.

If you work out here in the heat, do you purposefully spend a little bit of time outside to get that it's kind of like bonus hard workout? So when you go somewhere that's a little temperate, like you're cold. cardio, like you're so much ready, more ready physically, or do you stay inside as much as possible? I think we'll be outside for sure. I think there is a toughness, a mentality component to the heat or the cold or whatever extreme situation you have at your place. But we're going to do both. And really, a lot of those decisions come down to a staff conversation or a conversation with our strength and conditioning coaches in our training room. You know, like, hey, if it's too hot and it's not safe, then we go indoors.

That was very, and you can probably look at me until above mediocre, slightly above mediocre, high school football player on a small level. I wouldn't mean to brag. He didn't agree. Don't mean to brag, don't mean to brag. But we didn't get water. That was like, that was how it was. That was like 20 years ago, 30 years ago.

But water was a treat. And we couldn't have water. I remember when coach built this, he had a PVC pipe and he put a water hose into it and put a little hole, a spot. That was like, they invented the car. We were like, wow. I guess everybody gets water now, huh, and they want to? Absolutely.

I would say we are aggressive with our hydration. It's probably good. Yeah, well, yeah, I mean, obviously it's a health and safety concern for starters, baseline, but it's also, it has a tremendous impact on performance, mentally, physically, all those things. So we're, you remember that, though, right? Well, like water. Oh, yeah, no, like, yeah.

Okay, I'm like crazy. Yeah, yeah. That's the way it was. Yeah, that was how well, you didn't get water. unless you earned it. The other thing is we're sitting here talking, I appreciate you guys giving me the short seat. So I look so,

so I looked just like so much shorter than you guys. That was strategic. Question about a picture in the room. I got a couple. One, they've already retired your jersey apparently, number one, running over there.

Yeah, now I haven't even coached the game yet. So how did you talk him into retiring your jersey? That was the jersey that handed me the day I was hired. Got it. There's a hiring jersey. There's nothing special about that. Okay.

Yeah. And then number two, there's a picture and it shows a text message with like, I don't remember the number. It's like 1,624 unopened text messages. That must mean something big happened and you have all these messages. And so you screenshot it. What is that picture?

So it's something I use with our team. And that's within like 36 hours after getting this job. I had that many text messages. And my point to the team is like when something good happens for you, like everybody reaches out. And when something bad happens, you know, nobody, you don't hear from anybody. and their lives as football players. It's like that, you know, make a good play, social media, you know, 5,000 hits.

You make a bad play. 5,000 really bad stuff too. And so, you know, it's a message for them like just don't give your power away to, you know, the social media world, your telephone, that part of it because it's so fleeting. And really all that matters are the people that are in this building and the people that you love and respect. I can't believe that many people have your phone number. Not anymore. Okay.

Not anymore. It's changed. I've had a couple of really like lucky cool moments for at one point I'd want a reality show. I'm not a reality person, but I won dancing with the stars. And I never danced before in my life. And so it was like that, right? And then I got to the point where I just copied and pasted. Thanks, man.

Thanks man. But that's what I said to man to women. And then they realized it was all, did you copy and paste answers back to people? Or did you just not reply to all of them? No, I'd say 600 of those have been unread. Still, not still. You don't have done. You're not a dot guy.

There's no way on your phone you have red dots. Oh, everywhere. Yeah, yeah, everywhere. Hey, there's hope. We got to go. There's hope for me. No, but if I'm taking time out of my day to respond to those people that much, like the people that I need to respond to, I'm already responding to.

They already know I've already deleted them. Yeah, that takes time. The red dots are crazy. A couple of questions about the new rules this year, the communication inside the helmet. I think that's awesome. They've been doing it on, obviously, in the NFL. levels all around except for where you guys are. How do you feel and have you already started to work on that at all? Yeah, we worked on that some in spring and I think it's going to be really helpful. I think it'll be

interesting. It'll avoid some of the sign stealing, you know, nonsense and conversations that happened every year in college football. And I think it'll be also good for the players because as they aspire to play on the next level, that's going to be a component of their, you know, of them playing also. So I think it's good for everybody. Is more of it conversation nonsense or is it stopping the actual sign stealing? Because we heard a lot about it last year especially. Was it a bigger topic than it actually is or has it been existing for a long time and it should have been a topic already? I would say it's been going on forever. I think everyone's in every sport.

It's not just specific to football. If you can legally steal a sign, that's not even stealing. It's taking someone left it out on the side of the curb. It's like a chair and you pick it. up on a Thursday. It's going to be smart. Legally, if you do that, that's fair, right? But if not, if you're using other ways, that is unfair. I would agree to that. Yeah, I would agree with that. But just the natural of like reading

signs or picking signs, like that's been happening forever. Are you going to do signs at all? Like backup signs? Yes. Do you use any pictures of things? We will not. Okay. I could use my head? Yeah. I knew where that was going. I would love to look. I'm a sign line coach. I've only ever given one school permission to do this. It's Arkansas where I'm from. And I was like, in basketball, they hold up a big head of me on the court when they do this.

But I would let you use my head coach. If you can use it for a sign. Big glasses. If we go that route, you're in. It can be like dorky dive. And that's what it means. It's like straight dork dive right up the middle coach. It would be perfect.

Rule change. Just talking about another one. We're talking about the communication. Are they doing the iPads? Do you get like 18, is it 18? Is it 18 iPads? 16 iPads? Whatever it is.

Well, somebody checked it. Well, would they be walking around going on, one, two, three. Only, I think it's 16 or 18 iPads or maybe not iPads. It could be tablets. Tablets, yeah, generic. Will somebody be checking to make sure somebody doesn't have 19 tablets? I think it would be more honor code until someone said, hey, they're using too many tablets. We know the honor code's not good.

We know that's not good. There's got to be somebody in charge of the tablets. Well, but like you're responsible for your own sideline. You know, so at the end of the day, like, I'm in charge. So, like, I'm not doing that for an extra tablet. That's insane. It would be wasted. Like, that doesn't make sense.

And that's just to watch quick version. of the game, right? Exactly. Exactly. You're watching the previous series. Like I think in terms of like learning and making adjustments and understanding what's happening in real time, I think would be incredibly valuable. I think that's also a great rule.

This is a couple rules that I would like to see happen. Oh, boy. Here we go. No, I think because I love how the rule changes have finally been implemented. I love the communication in the helmet. Think about this one, Coach. Everything's the same. But when you score a touchdown, you get a chance to kick the extra point if you scored

the touchdown, but that's worth two. So let's say. The player that scored the touchdown? The player that scored the touchdown. Interesting. Now gets to kick the extra point if he wants, and if he makes it, it's worth two points. Thoughts?

I like it. This is good, coach. I like it. I think that's awesome because how often is that really going to happen? Not very often. It's like the old school two-point conversion. They didn't do it a whole lot, but when they did, that was crazy. But imagine.

It would be fun. I think you would have, I think some of us would be like, all right, if we're going to go for two, let's just call a two-point play. That's probably a good point to go. I didn't think about that. I didn't think about that. I didn't get that deep on that one, man. I didn't think about, oh, no.

Okay, okay, fair enough. You got another one? I do have another one. This one's, like, legitimate, though. I feel like they should at some point put some sort of digital tracking measurement system in the balls, meaning. And the lines. Yeah, why are we wait? It's humans first, then cameras, but sometimes there are still angles that don't have it clearly because there are people on both sides.

What's a goal line, goal line play. and they're like, let's check the, but they're alignment on both sides of where the camera is. What are your thoughts on that? I agree. Okay, that's easy. Okay. I'm one for two right now. Okay, so are you also a proponent of the automatic strike zone?

Absolutely. Yeah, I think if you want to call it into play, let's say there's a challenge. I'm great. I love challenges up to a limit. And if you're right, you get to keep going. Like, I think that's, how are you with the challenges? Great. Yeah.

Everybody says that. Yeah, it's great. He's the best. No, no, no. I think like, you have to be strategic with them. You know, I think like sometimes, because the fans are always like, challenge.

And you're like thinking of like the game, like the whole game or this half, you know, situation. And you're like, there's often times where you're like, it's not worth it or this game's tight. I'm going to need that time out. And so you're talking on the headset. Are you sure? Are you sure? Are you sure?

Oh, is it a sure guy? No, but there's always like, because sometimes guys see it or they have access to a replay that you don't have on the field. But if he says yes, coach or the, I'm sure. I'm sure. It's not right.

I'll go for it. And sometimes that costs you a game. He doesn't get water. See, I've got the punishment. No water for him the next outside practice. Yes. We're figuring this out.

We're not into capital punishment. Yet. One more rule change that I think will be good. No, no, this is one. I am not a big fan of players faking, injured, and then getting back in after one playout.

I don't know. There are many coaches that would admit their fans of it unless they're doing it, but I would also train my players to do it. Let me be honest. I would. I would train. If there's a wide open offense,

I'd be like, grab your hammy, baby, and get back out there in one play. Then I would be like, we don't like that. However, I think if that happens, if they have to stop the game

for any reason injured, they can't come in until the next series. Thoughts on that? I don't think that's necessarily bad. But I also know in football, there are moments where a guy gets, you know, turns an ankle or something,

and then the time allows him to, like, kind of catch his breath, and he realizes he's not as hurt. So I can see it both ways. Hey, you know what that means. He likes it. Yeah, yeah. No, no, no.

I do, I actually think, like, for the most part, I do think football coaches have integrity. I don't think a lot of coaches coach that. I'm sure some do, but I do not believe the majority of them do. But if it's not against the rules, I would argue it's not even an integrity thing. It's a strategy thing. If we make it against the rules, then it's then an integrity thing. All my players will be doing it. But feigning injury is against the rules if you can, like, prove it.

That's a problem. But you can't. It's so hard to prove. Unprovable. That's right. That's like someone who says, I died and came back to life. We can't say they didn't. We don't believe them, but we can't say they didn't.

Okay. Coach, I want to talk about your career a little bit. You know, you were the head coach over at San Jose State. And I believe it was 2019, you guys beat the first SEC team as a school. Do you remember that game? Of course I did. Dude, you act like it was the 80s? Coach, do you remember the game five years ago?

But I can tell he doesn't remember it. Who did you guys beat? We beat the University of Arkansas. You're right, that's right. No, I know who it was. That was a terrible game. It was a terrible game. I didn't even want to bring it up.

Yeah. Where is that ball? Look at that. We went to Western Kentucky in the same bull crap, where it was like on the wall. We had to stop and look at it. Anyway, go ahead. Yeah, well, what's so cool about that game, coach?

Oh, that game, it was because the previous, We had been so, we were like in this massive rebuild and we've been struggling so far. The year before, we were one and 11. And so I think that was game three and we were one and one going into it. He can't stand this. It's not, I'm not loyal to the birds of Arizona right now. Let coach talk. I'm just listening to a coach to speak.

I love it. It's very eloquent. But yeah, so we went, you know, going on the road, you know, just the, the atmosphere or playing in a place like that. In Arkansas. Yeah. The environment. their home. Who's your quarterback? Our quarterback was Josh Love, who ended up being the

Mountain West offensive player of the year. So he was a good player. And the interesting thing is that the quarterback from Arkansas was Nick Starkle, who after that season transferred and played for us, and we won a conference championship. That whole game, he was like, I'm in the wrong school. I thought Starkle was awesome. Anyway, we're moving on here. That's a good question. Thank you, Coach. When you come in and as a new guy, does everybody want to know, like, what offense are you running with us? is that going to develop into more of what you have always done? I would say that's not what we did this here. Lots of coaches are like that.

I'm not necessarily like that. I am always like, how do we get the ball in our best players' hands and let them make a play, whether that's a quarterback or running back or a whiteout or tied in. Like I'm always about adjusting the scheme to the personnel. And so, you know, there's been times where we, at San Jose, we ran the ball, excellent. There was times where we threw it as good as anybody.

And so it just depends on just what we have. that means and that changes year to year. It really changes, you know, with the transfer portal. But when we came in here, what we did is we tried to adopt a lot of the things that they did here, Coach Fish and the players did here before, offensively and schematically, and then married it to what we did. So if it was similar, then we just called it what they called it here last year. So we tried to keep some of the language the same for the players. So we kind of put the onus on the coaches to learn more.

more than the players. And then defensively, because of keeping in Coach Kina, we're able to keep the same defense in, you know, in place. Have you fallen? Are you, I'm just saying your leg coach? Yeah, I think you fell. Oh, my God.

It's like a wound. He's got a wound right next to what happened. What's going on? Pickle ball or what? So, yeah, no, it was a 4th of July. I was in San Diego and I kind of got wash up on the rock surfing. And so,

Yeah. This is cool. I got shredded pretty good. But yeah, it was not as glamorous as it sounds when I say it. It was more like old man. But the funny part is that it happened on my way out because it's like high tide. But I didn't know all this happened. So I went out and body surf for an hour. And then I got out and I was bleeding everywhere.

So I was just shark bait all over the water. I was just chumming the water. I had no idea. And I got out of the water and everyone's like, oh, my God. what happened to you and I'm like oh yeah I've been in the water for a long time is bleeding everywhere final five questions five questions these are going to be quicker coach so one of the cool things about traveling around the country talking to uh really uh smart coaches huge programs it's like we also get to meet a lot of our childhood heroes like next week we get to go hang out with steve young we're

going to steve young's house like steve young to me was i'm left-handed that mentioned i played football back in the day. I'm left-handed. Steve Young was left-handed. It was like him and Boomer Assize. I'm my two left-handed quarterbacks. For you, who was that when you were younger that you looked at as an athlete? That was your favorite athlete?

When I was young, because I'm a liner fan. So I grew up in the Bay Area. So it was Joe Montana and Jerry Rice. And then I ended up being a receiver. And so, like, Jerry Rice is that guy for me. So you hate Steve Young. We'll tell him. Hey, Steve.

No. Didn't even mention you. No, no. No, no. No, no. But Steve threw a million touchdown passes as Jerry Rice. Like they were incredible together. One Super Bowls for you.

Yeah, no question. Yeah, but when Joe got hurt and Steve came in, it was a tough time. But it's amazing, though, because, like, how Steve handled that and then continued to have a Hall of Fame career. Like, that doesn't happen. Only the Packers. Like, that's just amazing. Like, really farved to Rodgers.

Aaron Rogers. That's about it. So rare. What about when you got older, was there a player that you emulated or thought, okay, he played a little like I play? Was it Jerry Rice? No, because Jerry Rice was good and I was not. So, yeah.

But you are like, you know, whatever position you play, you're always looking at the guys that are in the NFL that you think are, you know, big time. Ed McAfrey. Ed McAfrey. I watched him playing college because he was at Stanford, right? And so he was one of those guys because he was, we used to go watch him on Saturday. That's a good poll about you. But yeah, and he was incredible and then had a great career in the NFL, the Giants and the Denver Broncos, right? I want to ask you another picture.

Question four left. Four left. Okay, four left. Another picture over that I saw you and John Madden. What's, what's behind that? that picture. So that was cool. So Coach Madden and Steve Marucci have a charity botchie ball tournament in the Bay Area every year and they raise money for the Special Olympics. And it's an awesome event. And so we would go every year, San Jose State Athletics and support it. And so I got to meet

Coach Madden and I put it up there because I always ask my players, do you know who that is? Like all the pictures up there for just like talking points because the kids, players come in, they're like, what's that? What's that? You know? And I'm like, do you know who that is? and they're like, no. And I'm like, you've probably played that game more than any video game in your arsenal. And they look at me like, that's Madden? So, yeah, it was cool.

That's awesome. You have a favorite book? A couple. The Magic of Thinking Big and the Slide Edge. You read those? Before I got her today, actually. Both at the same time. Yeah, yeah.

Why those? Like, what about that have you taken and translated into what you're doing now? Kind of the premise of the slide edge is it like what you do every single day compounds over time. And then the magic of thinking big is the idea that like most of us don't think big enough. We don't dream big enough. We just like kind of get in our way.

And we're just like, well, this is good enough when actually most of us are capable of much more. Two questions left. Yeah, I know. It's getting down to the nitty gritty. We got a culture question and a music question. Which one would you like next, coach? Music. Give me your Mount Rushmore of favorite music.

You're four for your whole life that you would put as if you can only listen to four artists. Oh my gosh. That is rough. That's tough. I know. That's what we do. We're hard hitting. All right.

Okay. So I'm a, you know, my formative years were the 90s, I would say. And so I'm a 90s hip hop guy. So that would be some version of kind of NWA, Tupac, Snoop. You're cheating. You're cheating. You're cheating. You got to pick one.

That's a tough one. Or he picks all of them. It would probably be Snoop and during that time. Or, you know, and that's stuck with me. I got four more, three more. Three more? Three more. Wow, this is a tough one.

I bought Marley. Yes. Okay. And I'm trying to think. God, this is a tough question. You're going to have to edit the hell out of this. Now, did you get this in Media Days coach? No, no, no.

This is more fun. Exactly. There I answered the same question 500 times. Let's see. who's on my listening to the most? I would say like Beach Boys' greatest hits. And because I kind of was like a kid with my parents growing up listening to that. And then I would also throw in, God, Pearl Jam.

I love this guy. I mean Bob Marley, Pearl Jam, Beach Boys, this is my dude. So, yeah, Snoop. Snoop, this is my guy. Final question. What's been great about the culture here at Arizona that is new to you, right? Every school has its own culture that, one, you have to learn. You have to make sure you do it right publicly.

What have you had to learn quickly, but also you're like, oh, this is really cool and different to University of Arizona? I think the coach fishing and the staff recruited a bunch of really quality players and quality young men, and they are already incredibly connected. And I walked into a really special situation in terms of like the team culture. as it fits like big picture here in Tucson, Arizona. For the first time, I'm in a place where there's, I've never felt a city supporting university like this one.

Because the city is big, it doesn't feel that way, but there's a million people that live in kind of the greater Tucson area. And like how much the city of Tucson cares about the University of Arizona, how much it cares about all our sports programs and the U of A is really special. It's a lot of fun. Coach, we really appreciate the time. Thank you, Coach. We like you more now because of your musical taste, more than anything.

Absolutely. And in conclusion, if you want to use my headwhip for one time, for one play, let me know I okay it. You have the rights to it for one game, one play. And I think that will be hilarious. I like it. We'll make sure it's a good one. What I say?

Dorky Dorky Dive. Yeah, Dorky Dorky Dike. All right. Thanks, coach. Thank you. All right. We're here with Zach from Dorm Dudes. We were just talking about Miami.

football second ago. And by the way, if you're not familiar with dorm dudes, if you go to TikTok and you do dorm dudes breaks, they break sports memorabilia. And by break, it's like you buy a section, if that section hits, you get it. We can tell you about all that later. But we were talking about Miami. And so you guys broke a Miami helmet, like a Legends helmet? Yeah. What was on it? So Ray Lewis and Ed Reed were on there, which was super cool for me because obviously two great defensive players on there together. You're a lot younger than us. So to us, we remember that being young but you didn't remember that at all right no no just remember them in the NFL not not and probably late in the NFL too yeah yeah exactly late in their career yeah that sucks for us um we're getting

old i know i know so okay so who else you get ed reed uh ray lewis who else was on it if you can remember i know there was a bunch of people on it and we pulled so many miami helmets it's hard for me to say the miami players i think of top of my head i think of shocky jeremy shocky went to Jamie. Jason Taylor. Oh, yeah. Went to Miami. Oh, here comes. Here comes Kevin.

Did you look it up? No, no, no, no. I think Eddie's just like, I'm out of this one, guys. I mean, I don't have a guess. Olson. Yeah, Greg Olson, Ed Reed, Vince Wilfork. Oh, Will Fork. Oh, God, dang.

Clinton Portis. Sean Taylor, Willis McGaie. You guys already said, I think. John McGaughan-Migay's knee. Jonathan Vilma. That's good enough. Yeah, that's good. He's at the top of his head.

well I said most of those too. Oh yeah, yeah, I know. Except like Bill. But the way he rolled it out, it's pretty smart, Kevin. Looks real smart, man. He said most of the people I said after I said it. I knew he knew it. What are you giving it?

Okay, yeah, so Miami used to be legendary. Before you knew it, it was legendary, but their fans are annoying because they still think they're legendary. Well, yeah. I mean, that's a lot of fan bases, though. They do that. It's like the Cowboys. Like, it's been a bit, and we still think we're legendary.

Yeah. I feel like the college teams, it's more, they're more partial. their team. You know, like Brown's fans in the NFL, we used to be good. And now everybody's like, yeah, we're not. When was that? That never happens in college. Yeah, when were they ever good at your life except for the one year Mayfield won a playoff game? Well, nowhere in my life, but Jim Brown, man. Yeah. Back in the original team, that's now the Ravens, back in, back in back, back when it was championships, not Super Bowls. I barely remember Bernie Cozar playing back in

the day. Yeah, I just had his cards. No chance. You remember Bernie Cozar? No. Do you, know who he is, right? Yeah. Tall skinny. dude, kind of mullet. And I think he was, like, on the broadcast team for the Browns. Who's your favorite team, NFL? Browns. Who's your favorite college team? Ohio State, for sure.

Are you a big college fan? Or would you be in – because I think that part of the country, unless you're – college football in the southeast is worshipped. It's as close as I would compare to, like, international soccer, except it's not like our whole country we're rooting for. We don't go stab people or we have laws that keep people from trampling each other. Thank God. If trash truck drive a bike. Is that the same truck?

Yeah, yeah. Oh, boy, get ready. If soccer is their fanatics internationally, especially like World Cup national, if that's an A, a college football would be like a B minus. Yeah. It would be the most passionate thing with sports that I think we have, like Americans toward college football. I didn't realize that until we moved to Tennessee.

What? When we were kind of in the heart of the SEC, how intense it is and how much it is a part of people's lives. I guess I grew up with it because it's all we had. In Arkansas? Yeah. Yeah, good point. Where are you guys actually have pro teams?

Yeah. We do. Lots of pro teams, actually. Yeah, lots of pro teams, lots of actual lives to live. And so Ohio State's just like a sliver of what's going on. Do you hate, hate Michigan? Yes. Yeah, I definitely, I think that's one of the biggest rivalries ever. So, yeah, I can't stand Michigan.

But if I had to go college or NFL, I would definitely pick the NFL just because of the fact of I like the lower scoring games. And that part of the country is very much NFL-E. And Northeast, very much NFL. Well, Ohio has the, was it, two NFL teams? Yeah, it's pretty big. Sneeze. That starts smelling like a trash truck, dude. We're going to know.

Let's do favorite college player of all time. Oh, gosh. Because Eddie, you were not a big college guy growing up. I wasn't. I wasn't. Do you have one? I'll say just Ricky Williams because I got to see him run in person. As an adult in Texas? Yeah.

Yeah, when I was working for news and I was running the camera on the field, never really would they send me to go do Texas games. And they sent me because one of the guy was sick who usually does it. So I was there on the end zone, and it was like, God, dude, it was awesome. It was like he was there on the three yard line and he just plowed through the line. And I can hear him grunt. I heard everyone grunt and he just pushed everyone like they weren't even there. And I was like, that's so, so freaking cool.

Kevin, who's your favorite college player of all time? Got double mics here. Favorite all time is probably, and I hate USC, but it's got to be Reggie Bush. So again, you're not a, you like college football, but you weren't a diehard college football fan. not of a certain team no but the sport yes but you would need to be of a because I grew up around

so but again you would need to be of a certain team to be a extremely religion based college football fan because that's what the religion is yeah so you can love I love

I love the NFL I don't have a team so I can't be like Eddie and you do have a team it's the Cowboys dude just embrace it I did bet $1,500 on the Cowboys that's what I'm

the Super Bowl, which will put me at $25,000. Embrace it, dude. That's your team. America's team. I was really, like, teetering. And Eddie's like, you can do it. Do the Cowboys. My dad texted me, he's like, Bobby really do that?

I was like, yep. I know. It's so stupid. Zeke is back. Yeah. Favorite college player ever? Cardale Jones, for sure. He was awesome.

Yeah. He was awesome. And my reasoning for that is, you know how the coaches always talk about, like, next man up. And that guy started out as a third string quarterback and won a national championship. So, like, come on. How can you not like that? Reed, I know you don't really like anything. Like, hey, Reed, wake up.

Worker. You mildly like a lot of stuff, but like you don't like love, love. But who would you say your favorite is? Probably Darren McFadden. Yeah, legend. Because, like, cowboy. We were doing all the sports camps at that time and had his fathead and all that stuff. So I'd probably say Darren.

But don't be insulting. He has what? They're something like the fat head. You stick on the world. Got it. Well, that's rude. Mine's probably, because I can't do, I'm debating between two. I don't want to say them both because it's not fair because then I get to claim them both, right?

Probably Clint Serner. Oh, like you said, Quinn Grovey. Quinn definitely was like when I was tiny, young. But I wasn't old enough to really, I was all up to go see and play. Clint Serner, it was like when I was 17, 18, 19, we were like one game away from the national championship. He had the big fumble that cost us against Tennessee. We lost the game. Didn't get to go play in the national championship.

but for me it was Clint Starner. But yeah, Quinn Groby as a young kid was awesome. Which, what year did you storm the field? That would probably be 96 or so. Matt Jones chunked the ball in the corner, jumped on the film, almost broke my leg, dragged my leg across the field, though. There were a couple times that I stormed,

but that was the one where I shouldn't have. The other one, they just kind of let everybody we beat Alabama once. I even got on the Jumbo Tron before because I was in the end zone. They put the camera on just the random crowd's face, and I was like, known at all I just got lucky they put me on there and I I probably ran on it

for like five seconds before the game was over because on the other side of the field and I was in the other end zone so what's gonna happen yeah so I ran like I just wanted to get a lead and I did I got the lead I was one of the first people players it's awesome it's pretty cool it's pretty cool uh over at dorm dudes I I wanted JJ White Jersey and I sold it the other day which we'll have a video of for like all in about close to two thousand That's awesome that I hit from you guys. That's awesome.

And how much money did you put in to get into dorm dudes? To that one? Yeah. What was the entry on that? 80 bucks or something. That's awesome. For like the team, for like the, I probably bought a division. I don't know, but I probably bought like the AFC South or something, right?

Yeah. Probably in a bag. They're doing this thing now where they give away $10,000 tickets inside the bags. Oh, that's cool. One hit yesterday. Really? Yeah. Yeah, one of the $10,000 tickets hit yesterday was one in every 500 jerseys.

so some people are going to be very happy when they hit that especially for like 30 bucks that ticket you can use just you get the money no no it's your oh it's cash it's cash money cold hard cash yeah dude that's awesome i've seen two people hit it on dorm dudes that's so freaking cool like one in 500 bags has a it comes out in a gold bag my my tj my j j wott was in a gold bag yeah i haven't seen gold bags i'm like i just won two thousand dollars because a ticket fell out but it was like the authentication ticket and because it was like a game issue jersey like other tickets are falling out like legitimately game issued it had a walter may walter patin man of the year thing on like on this and i was like oh my god i won two thousand

and i didn't basically i won two thousand because i went and and sold it and and they're doing college helmets too now right now yeah that's what we're talking about that's so freaking cool i did win the um joe montana notre dame i don't have that yet though oh dude it may be at the house now that's so beautiful but that one and i did win the all the white brothers that one on the wisconsin helmet i don't have it yet because i don't have it yet because i don't have it yet because I just won it though, but I want a authentic Tim Tebow, Florida Gator helmet. Dang. Authentic.

With a visor too. With a visor apparently. I haven't seen that. I didn't even see me win it. Sometimes I'll get on and be like, and then I have to go, so I have to get off. Yeah. And then I'll go back and look because they put on their Instagram, which is dorm dudes breaks, like all the winners. Then I'll go look and be like, come on, come on, come on.

And they had it up on one. Which one was the one where Kern ripped the shirt off? That was a ticket. That was $10,000. Yeah. Yeah. That's $10,000. So, yeah, you guys are killing them, man.

Well, I appreciate it. Have you got to who's the best sports person you get to meet? Well, when I was younger, I always used to go to a lot of games and I would get there at like nine in the morning and stand in line to be the first one in the stadium to try and meet the players. I would say the best person I've ever met is probably Russell Wilson. Super cool dude. That's right. Super willing to talk.

And this is when he was like really, really good with the Seahawks. So even though he was come. Cleveland. They were playing the Browns. Oh, and he was so he was an NFL player. He was still super nice. Yeah. Wait.

Were you an adult? I was probably 15. Okay. He always seemed like he was nice. Like even not authentic. I don't think. I never really got the authentic vibe. But he seemed like he was nice.

I don't know. I was like he was cheesy. But I never felt like he was inauthentic because I didn't know him. Well, to me, when someone's really cheesy, they're just playing it up. That's just my theory. So, but I've never seen Russell Wilson like just mean to someone. Well, I don't see many people what you mean to someone. Well, so I assume like when he met him, he was nice to Zach.

You know? But is it. mean just walk by and not just go to the locker room i don't think so no to just ignore yeah to just keep walking no but it's not like zach went up and russell was by himself and he's like sign this and he's like no you little idiot well dude one time i was um i was at a rangers game and josh hamilton he was walking in the dugout and they were a bunch of people like right above the dugout asking for a ball josh josh josh we sign the ball throwing in balls and he stopped signed uh one ball and then he said throw me another one and this man threw him in the ball he got it he's like not you

threw it back to the man adult man and he said the kid that's cool the kid give you the ball and the man was just like oh well okay i was our guy jeff perlman who came on and told old stories i watched him on tic-tok and he was talking about how josh hamilton was one of his favorite people to cover ever it seems like a wild well yeah i mean no he was because he was addicted to drugs big time yeah yeah i mean that makes you wild yeah yeah it does drugs make you do crazy things yeah he's all covered in tats but then he came back yeah yeah yeah that's when i saw him we came back um that's cool and would he talk to her just sign something. He talked a little bit and it wasn't a whole lot. It was just like, hey, thanks for coming and supporting all the way in Cleveland, but you didn't know I was from Ohio.

So it wasn't like a far drive or anything, but he didn't think you were like a make-a-wish kid or anything. No. So you don't think it's rude like when, uh, no, they don't even recognize. No, I think it's rude if they acknowledge and then ignore. I think it's better to just walk. Oh. Especially if you have somewhere to be. And I say this from, from a very, very 1% limited version of this. If I'm like doing three or four events back-to-back or I'm doing. doing interviews and someone's like, I'll always stop if I can and take every single picture all the time. But if there's like a weird adult guy who I know is like, because they will bring pamphlets with pictures of me have like six pictures of me.

Yeah. And I'll be like, I used to even be kind of borderline late to things to stop and sign stuff. But then I'd be like, who do I make this to? Like, no, just make it generic. And then we do this one. They flip a page. And be like, oh, they're signed. They're selling this crap.

Yeah. Yeah. And so when that kind of situation happens, I'll just act like I can't hear them. because I feel like it's rude or they're like hey hey and you're like I see you buddy I'm not coming over there though but it's always the douchey's that I because I'll never turn out a picture

yeah the one time was I was peeing at a urinal though and I was like that's too much can I and I was like hey man I'm gonna finish peeing I'll meet you right outside that's a weird one can I take a picture as a weird while we're peeing what are you waving at oh no I was doing the selfie oh got it looked like read was like waving at something me too me too

so check out dorm dudes breaks they have a lot of great stuff breaking helmets and jerseys and cards. Yeah, a little bit of cards. But memorabilia for now. All right, I think that's it. Thanks to coach for hanging out with us. Our producer has been reading Kevin on this podcast here.

Thanks, guys. Great job. Thanks, guys. Thank you. Thank you. We're going to Dallas from here. And hopefully we get some cool interviews. We're kind of going in blind.

Are we going to have some cowboys there? They've got to be there, right? like, Dax got to be there. No, why would they go to the Celebrity All-Star game? Because there's celebrities in there in Dallas. They live right, they live right down the road. No, no, it's not the All-Star game. It's the Celebrity Softball game.

Yeah, yeah, but if you, bones, there was a softball game right by your house. And you knew that some celebrities were going to be there. You wouldn't just walk on over. Only if I was close friends with some of them. Oh. Like Terrell Owens should be there. Okay, well, maybe they know T. But I'm saying he was a cowboy, though.

Yeah, that's cool. Dion Sanders should be there. Yes. So if they're there. Des Bryant, we saw on the list. If they're there and they give us a few minutes, we'll get a few minutes with them. Okay. If I don't get to talk to Des, will you ask him if he caught it?

Just ask him. You caught it, right? If he's playing in the game, and it's not, as you know, I don't like to be weird. That's not weird. And I'm sure he's never gotten that question. I know, but I don't like to be weird. I already feel like I don't belong, so I don't want to feel like I don't belong. I got you.

I know exactly what you're talking about. He definitely caught it. He for sure caught it. I want to know what he thinks, though. I think he caught it, but the rule at the time possibly said he didn't. So stupid. That would have been our year, dude. But it's like the tuck rule, right?

Like a rule kind of had to be created because of that situation where really this happened, but you know it actually happened, but the rule kind of got, it's one of those. Yeah, that sucks for you, man. That'd have been your year. That was it. That's the one. You'd have sure lost the next game, though, for sure. All right.

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