The Bobby Bones Show - 25W: Mahomes Does it Again & Niners Historic Comeback + Dan Campbell Holds True to Who He Is + Jim Edmonds on His Newest Business Venture & Players Safety + Bobby's New Hobby Has the Show Invested

Episode Date: January 29, 2024

As Bobby always says, 'to be the man, you gotta beat the man'... and Patrick Mahomes continues to be the man despite having a subpar season statiscally. Dan Campbell's decision to go for it on 4th dow...n late in the game may have cost the Lions their season, but he stays true to what got them there. Plus, Cardinals Hall of Famer, Jim Edmonds joins Bobby to talk about his newest business venture in player safety with a new company called LIGHT Helmets. And Bobby picked up a hobby over the weekend that had the show joining a live TikTok to try and win some cool sports items!    Download the DraftKings Sportsbook App today: https://dkng.co/bobbysports If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/MI/NJ/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/NH), 888-789-7777/visit http://ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 1-877-770-STOP (7867) (LA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), call/text TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA).   21+ (18+ WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/LA/MI/NJ/ NY/PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. N/A in NH/OR/ON. New customers only. Valid 1 per new customer. Min. $5 deposit. Min $5 wager. $200 issued as eight (8) $25 free bets. Ends 9/19/22. See http://draftkings.com/sportsbook for details.   Follow the Show: @25Whistles   Follow the Crew: @MrBobbyBones @ProducerEddie @KickoffKevin @MikeDeestro @ReidYarberrySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:17 See draft kings.com for details. Boom. A lot to talk about two big games. I got to watch them both in their entire. entirety, which is nice, because usually I feel guilty if I'm just spending eight hours, nine hours watching games, and I do nothing with my wife. Oh, yeah. I can't imagine it, kids.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Oh, no, I just tell them heads up, like, I'm going to be watching. You guys can join if you want. And they usually do. For the most part, the kids watch with me. So, dude, that's huge. When you have kids, the wife looks at that and says, oh, they're having bonding time. That's good. Do they want to watch?
Starting point is 00:02:45 Yeah, most of the time. I mean, I think third quarter, they start getting a little, you know, like distracted, then they go play, and then they come back to the end of the game. Well, Chiefs won. I also bet Chiefs Money Line before the game. I put like $250 and won like $800 or something, which felt pretty good. Dang. Never really felt like the Chiefs weren't going to win that game.
Starting point is 00:03:03 No, they were in control the whole time. To be the man, you got to beat the man. They said that during the game, you know, almost like a not the same words, but it was like, if you want to be a champ, you got to beat the champ. And I'm like, oh, close guys, you almost got it. Rick Flair is the guy that would say it. It's where I get it from. Oh, oh, you make it up.
Starting point is 00:03:22 You gotta beat the man. Woo! And I am the man. Rick Flair was awesome. He's more awesome to me now than he was to me when I was a kid. Why? Because he's still doing it? Nope, because he would just wear tights
Starting point is 00:03:39 and he had long, like, blondeish gray hair. So he always looked old and he didn't wear anything cool and he wasn't ripped. Like there was nothing about Rick Flair except for what he would do off and out of the ring like, hi, flying,
Starting point is 00:03:56 Mother Lion, I'm to die, you know, that stuff, but when he wrestled, there was just nothing to him except he was like a legendary wrestler. He was a good wrestler. But I liked gimmicks and stuff when I was a kid. I watched Iron Claw the other night. Watch it, it saw it in theater. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:04:11 So I saw it in the theater, but it's just funny you bring up Rick Flair because he's a pretty big piece in that, especially like the back half of that movie. Yeah. And surprisingly, I don't know if it was... Nah. Be careful.
Starting point is 00:04:21 No, I'm not going to. I'm just saying like it didn't what I picture Rick Flair back in the 80s was not the reality so just to your point I'm saying like
Starting point is 00:04:29 now I feel like I mean I wasn't alive back then but I feel like now he's more relevant and cooler than ever but yeah it's cool now because his gimmick
Starting point is 00:04:38 then is like fictional cooler now I feel like he's such like a like then he was something right like I don't know he was cocky
Starting point is 00:04:51 he was loud he's in your face trash talker, but now he's like an older dude, but he's still kind of that. Like, I feel like you would find him in the corner of a bar, like, you'd walk into an empty bar and there'd be five dudes laughing and he'd be in the middle of like telling stories. He almost died. Yeah. Like in the last four years ago probably? Four, five years, yeah. Oh, heart attack maybe? Something, wow. What my, uh, mild recollection is, something to do with your body kind of given up after years of abuse of just shrinking and also the life of a wrestler.
Starting point is 00:05:23 There's that bar thing, not too far off then. Well, they actually have nothing. What? In the bar. But anyway, Mahomes is awesome. I felt bad for Lamar Jackson. Just because... They tried so hard.
Starting point is 00:05:34 They did, and their season was awesome. It's just, what are you going to do with Patrick Mahomes? And Kelsey had an awesome game. And the wide receivers caught the ball. That third and maybe four or fourth and four, or whatever it was, that last play, where they threw it and Valdez Scantling, made that pass falling, catching it in his chest.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Regular season, that had bounced off his head. It did, or he just missed it straight up. Yeah, and he caught. I mean, Andy Reid, balls he goes forward in those situations, threw it down the field, makes catch games over the end. Can City wins again. On the road, two games on the road. Like, he is.
Starting point is 00:06:13 You know, I try to not let the hyperbole of. Maybe he's the new greatest quarterback of all time. Maybe he has a chance to catch Tom Brady. We're always looking to replace Michael. Jordan with Kobe, with LeBron, with next man up, right? We're always looking to replace Joe Montana with Tom Brady
Starting point is 00:06:30 with Patrick. But it's like, it's real. If he wins this Super Bowl, that's quicker than Brady won his. He's getting there. Yes, he's not there, but... Brady won three before he ever lost a playoff game. But it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:06:45 He's won two. And he's lost how many? And he's lost... Well, he lost a Super Bowl. But he got... Lost a playoff game, both. to Brady. So there's two losses in the playoffs or guess who? Brady?
Starting point is 00:06:56 Yeah, yeah, old Brady. What if Brady's son comes and takes my Holmes down? That'd be awesome. Later. That would be cool. That would be so cool. Yeah, Mahomes is just so good. No, he's amazing. It's crazy that they couldn't win in college. At Texas Tech. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:09 That he didn't win. They didn't win. That team didn't win. With what was NFL coach, Cliff. Cliff. Yeah. And Patrick Mahomes. I think, and Mike, you might look up the record because I'm just going by memory. I think it was around 500. this senior year, maybe a game under, something like that, like five and six or whatever it was.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Isn't that wild? Yeah. Heck, Tom Brady didn't really start until he wasn't even the guy. Yeah, yeah. He was the guy later, but he wasn't, it was never supposed to be him. You never know. I mean, Brock Purdy. Mostly you know, but sometimes when you don't know,
Starting point is 00:07:44 that's when it's really surprising. Yeah. Brock Purdy looked, by the way, Brock Party looked real good. And they kept going, he's not the best athlete, and he'd break off like a 25-yard run. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Even like they talk about Josh Allen, you know, like, oh, you know, no one even knew who he was in college. And then now you look like, no, they knew who he was.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Well, he didn't get, I don't think he got one offer or like no offers. Right. So, again, those are the ones when you did know. They didn't know. But most times they know. Like, look at the other guys. They're all first round picks. All the other seven quarterbacks in that final last week.
Starting point is 00:08:13 All seven of the others were first round picks, most of them number one. Yeah. Even Josh Allen was still a first round pick. Yes. So he was kind of know. Yeah. At that point. They're saying he wasn't known going into college.
Starting point is 00:08:24 And he also came from a small college. Right, right. And he played for Wyoming. Yeah. And he was such a project even when he came to the NFL. Yeah, I mean, remember the first couple of years. You're like, I don't know if it's going to work. Mike, did you see Texas Tech's record with Mahomes?
Starting point is 00:08:37 I think his best season was 7 and 5. Barely Bull eligible. Isn't that crazy? The best possible. For sure, the best quarter right now. Yeah. Probably top, I would say top 10 all time now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:53 and really in the race to be top three all time. And if he gets a couple breaks, could be up there with Brady. Did you see him take that tackle with his knees bent and he went backwards and still didn't even hit the ground? Do you see that? Mahomes. That was unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:09:07 I was like, oh, well, he's out. He's done. Nope, we got right back up. I didn't see that one. I saw that second game, which was a good game because the lion jumped out and jumped out hard. Fast.
Starting point is 00:09:15 They were up 17 points at half. And that, Brandon Ayuk ball, they hit the guy in the face mask, bounced up. That was, like, that's the play. they put them in the Super Bowl. That was insane. A lucky...
Starting point is 00:09:25 I sneezed. Bless you. He says thank you. No one said, do they. Thank you. And they played well the second half, but they had to come back from a 17-point deficit,
Starting point is 00:09:38 but you have to have some breaks and take advantage of the brakes, and that was a break. That was crazy. Hit him right in the face mask, bounced up, Brandon Oakseezee, it doesn't get the touchdown. It's not on like the one or the two
Starting point is 00:09:49 because they touched them. Question. You know they threw a flag on that place? they wanted to call PI. Do you think if he didn't catch it, they called that PI? Because they took the flag back after he caught it. Offensive? Defensive.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Because then they talked about it on the broadcast, and they were saying they were both going for the ball, so it was the right call. But I couldn't help but to think they threw the flag, then he caught it, and then after they talked, so you're saying it wouldn't have mattered if he caught it or not, in your opinion. Yeah. I mean, I'm glad that they picked it up
Starting point is 00:10:16 because it's just a great play when I'll talk about that. But there's a little part of me when I was thinking, you know what? I think they picked it up because he caught it. So in your mind, either way, that play would have been at the spot where it was. Right. And no chance it was offensive interference?
Starting point is 00:10:31 No, because the corner was like coming back towards him. Was the ball underthrown? It must have been to bounce. Because the corner was falling backward, though. Oh, yeah. Or maybe they're fighting or... No shot of offensive, no. Okay, well, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:10:47 I didn't even see the flag. I did see the play, and I was like, dang, I bet that comes back to be something fun we talk about forever. and then it turns out they went up winning the freaking game. Yeah, yeah. Between that and the Lamar catching his own pass. That was awesome. Do you see that one, Eddie?
Starting point is 00:10:59 Yeah, I did. I did. I saw that one too. It's pretty neat. We both saw that one. That's cool. Man, I wanted the lines to win. I really did.
Starting point is 00:11:06 You did? I did. I mean, as a Cowboys fan, obviously, I hate the 49ers. But, like, I just wanted that line story to follow through all the way through the end. And, I mean, you look at those fans. But they had it, too, right? I mean, it's not that they were overmatched. It's not that they didn't have the talent.
Starting point is 00:11:20 they just, what do you go fourth down three times? Yeah. On that third, maybe the second one, I thought to myself, okay, I'm going to admit this on the show tomorrow, if I'm wrong, but I would kick a field goal here. And so it was like, fourth and three, and my mind was they're going to get it. And then I'd have to come and be like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:11:36 I was wrong, but I would have kicked a field goal to go up three scores. And they didn't. Oh, he's known for going for it. Like, dude, you got to swallow that. You got to swallow that. The next player, a couple plays later was with the Iyke one. Yeah. and Gibbs fumbled
Starting point is 00:11:51 That was bad That was bad That was tough I mean the rookies took it hard You know Gibbs fumble That was pretty bad That was a turning point
Starting point is 00:11:57 And then Zay Flowers Yeah Oh yeah Yeah two big fumbles by rookies But even Josh Reynolds A couple drops For the lions Big drops
Starting point is 00:12:04 Yeah Like a for sure First down right in the gut Yeah And I watched him walk off And Dan Campbell was cool He was like hey man Hang in there
Starting point is 00:12:11 I mean hit him Right in the gut Nobody on them On a third down Yeah Lions had it The lions had it They lost it
Starting point is 00:12:17 San Francisco played well enough that if Detroit screwed up enough, they could win the game, and they did. My wife in the third quarter goes, wow, Chiefs, Chiefs with Lions, it's going to be a cool Super Bowl. And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, game's not over. We have like a quarter and a half left.
Starting point is 00:12:35 She's like, no, they're up by two touchdowns. Watch this. Did you ever feel like it was over? Nope. Me neither. Never. Yeah, I didn't either. At all.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Only because of the legacy of the Lions. Yeah. It's like when I'm watching an Arkansas game. never over, even if we're up. I know, dude. Yeah, I'm sorry. Kentucky. No, I'm talking about any sport ever. Oh, okay. Anything. Yeah, I wasn't talking about that game. Yeah, no, no. I did see Mus' on the game day. They were at Arkansas.
Starting point is 00:12:57 They were. Yeah. And we played Kentucky pretty good. We're just not very, I'm okay with us not being very good this year, I guess. I don't like it, and it's not fun for me. But if you would have said, hey, in five years, you're going to go to two elite eights in a sweet 16 and have one bad year, would you take that? Yeah. That's fair. So I just have to look at it kind of like that. Because it's definitely not a good year. We could still, somehow shape up and win the
Starting point is 00:13:19 SC tournament, probably not. But I would love to see that happen. I always have hope, hope and faith. But yeah, I'm okay. Don't worry about me, guys. Don't send food over. Well, we thought about it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:31 I was going to come over. Yeah, don't. Show up. Hey, Reed, did you watch any games? No, the night we were going to watch a game, the girlfriend wanted to watch Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. So that's what we watched this. Oh, is there a new Charlie and Chocolate Factory or something?
Starting point is 00:13:44 No, it's the old one. What the? We went and Salt Wonka in the movie theater, and so the next night we watched Charlie and the Charlie and the Charlie. Did you tell her it was the game before the Super Bowl and that you're on a show? I had it pulled up on my phone. Not the game, but just the stats. I was refreshing to see.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Yeah. Did you bet it? No, I didn't bet that. I bet basketball. I ended up losing. It's all good. So you don't watch anything? No.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Just Charlie. You know what? It's a good boyfriend because you had to drive and travel to see your girlfriend. Yeah, it was an important weekend, so. So you drove back to some. morning? Yep, so I drove, I left around 7.30 last night, stayed at her sister's boyfriend's place in Memphis, got there around one, and then left around... Her sister's boyfriend's place? Yeah. Did you know this guy? Yeah, yeah. You met him before? Yeah, yeah, he's a good dude. And so, um, and then I left around
Starting point is 00:14:39 630 this morning and just got here right before we started. You tired? A little bit, but I'm making it through, man. Did you bet the parlay that I said to bet? We hit it again. No, I didn't. I didn't. We're on a streak unlike any other. I know. It's freaking amazing. Two weeks streak? Hey, it's just a long time. Long streak. Hey, we're 14 in a row.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Days without us. I was like, there we go. All right, let's tittle-tattle. Let's go. Continuing on the games here, do you feel like the Chiefs won the AFC Championship where the Ravens lost it? Oh, the Chiefs won it. I mean, the Ravens had to press at the end a bit. Chiefs are, I don't know if you guys have ever heard this saying,
Starting point is 00:15:25 but to beat the man, you got to beat the man. No, never heard it. And Buffalo can't beat the man. The Ravens can't beat the man. And the man's Patrick Mahomes with his sidekick, Travis Kelsey. But the defense is really good, right? I think Mahomes is getting a lot of credit because he's awesome. But that Kansas defense is strong.
Starting point is 00:15:41 And so I do think that the Ravens had three turnovers. Two of them were in a second. I mean, they were pressing. They were having to make. some dicey decisions to try to make things happen late. Ray, do you remember, right? What was your favorite play the game? Yeah, I was actually just thinking in my head that you asked if I bet on the game,
Starting point is 00:16:00 and I was like, I said no, and I just thought I did, actually. I did a parlay. The one that I said to do? No, it was a different one. I still lost, though, but. But I won, though. Yeah, that's great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Thanks, Reed. Thanks, Reed. Yeah, see you guys. Yeah, I'll go ahead. That's it. No, Reed's got it. Second question here. After another subpart performance from the playoffs,
Starting point is 00:16:23 what is your takeaway from Lamar this season? He's going to be the MVP. He deserves to be the MVP. He didn't get hurt all year. That's crazy. He was two, three, four games out the last few seasons. That's why they were like, I don't know if we can sign them. Something new for Lamar.
Starting point is 00:16:39 Yeah. AFC championship game stats, not great. They did win around. Good for them. That's good, right? But it's not. I think this team this year was ready. It was, they was Super Bowl or bust to be satisfied.
Starting point is 00:16:51 But he threw for, what, 3,600 yards, 24 touchdown, 7 interceptions. He ran almost 1,000 yards. He's got four more years in his prime, probably. Three to four more years in his prime. And then three to four more years are being really good. But it sucks they lost this year to them. This was their year. Everything about this year.
Starting point is 00:17:12 So Lamar's, if he stays healthy, He's as good as anybody else, and he was this year better. MVP. Did you feel like, kind of going back to the game even? Did you feel like they try to use him too much with his arm? Like almost prove a point? Because they had, I guess I saw 16 carries total, and they averaged five yards a carry.
Starting point is 00:17:30 But they hardly ran the ball. When I start questioning the coaching, I have a check-in with myself because just anything, not even this. And I'm like, why aren't they? And then I go, hey, Bobby, like, what's up? You're watching this on TV from home. Why?
Starting point is 00:17:46 No. Well, because I really wasn't good enough to play at this level. Yeah, yeah, right? But why didn't you become a coach? Why didn't want to? But maybe, though, do you think if you would have coach? Well, maybe, but you didn't, though, right? No.
Starting point is 00:17:57 And who knows more about the players, the personnel, the people than the coaches. Well, they do. Okay, then shut up. That's kind of the conversation to have on myself. You barbecue? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you barbecue? It's like barbecue.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Coach, he's like barbecue, and everybody does it. No, it's no. You guys will hear about that later. Do you think, though, that any coach is playing in the AFC championship and, like, trying to prove a point other than just by winning the game? Right. It's probably based on personnel matchups and Lamar, who knows what he's checking out of? No, I didn't have that thought. I tried to keep myself from those thoughts and second-guess in coaching because I'm not there and I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Smart of you. I know. I know. It's easy to do. I know. After a historic second half come back, do you think Brock Purdy has shut his doubters up? For a week, well for two weeks. It's a great game.
Starting point is 00:18:47 He played really, really well. He threw for 267, a touchdown interception, rush for 50 yards. Those runs were huge. They came at perfect times, and they were long. I'm not sure if he had, I don't know how many rushes
Starting point is 00:18:59 they credited him with, but he had two that were like around 20, 25 yards. There were game changers. The one where he busted up the middle, he ran through, and then it was just wide open. I mean, he looked like an athlete. And they're like,
Starting point is 00:19:11 well, it's not that athletic. but he's athletic enough to actually hurt him with your legs if you give him the chance to do so. He also threw it well. So the one pick, when was the pick? In the first half, the Lions, the linebacker right in the middle of the way. They swore on that. That was a big play. That was a big play.
Starting point is 00:19:28 I think Brock Purdy played really well because the Lions are a really good defense. I think Brock Purdy is a really good quarterback. And people now I think that hate on him like the clicks. because I think he's shown. He's actually good. Yeah, he's got weapons, but so did freaking Joe Montana. Jerry Rice.
Starting point is 00:19:47 Roger Craig. Okay. You want to go through? No, I was testing to see if you knew more. John Taylor. Dallas Clark. Tom Rathman. We could keep going.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Ronnie Lott. The safety? Yeah, man, you never knew. Charles Haley. Wait, what? Yeah. Everybody. All right, who else?
Starting point is 00:20:06 What else? All right, last one. Facing criticism for his decision to not kick a field in the fourth quarter. Do you think Dan Campbell made the wrong decision? No, because he was consistent. I think for me it had felt weird if he was like one time he did and didn't one time. I like that he was consistent with it. It was wrong every time.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Yeah. Let me say that again. It didn't work out the way they had hoped, but I do enjoy consistency because it also lets your team know that you believe in them. They had been more successful than not over the year by that. But yes, that there was twice where I was like, God, I would kick a field goal. but then I'm like, Bobby, what's up? Have you been coached for how long?
Starting point is 00:20:43 This conversation? Yeah, yeah, I have it all time. If I have out a lot of different things. So it did not work out. I did at one point disagree, like I said, but I did like it and I do was consistent. And I think those guys love him. And I think he was real honest after too.
Starting point is 00:20:57 He was like, I told the guys, this may be the only shot we have at it. So I like Dan Campbell. It took me a second. It took me a second, not to like him, but to understand that's really who he was. not just a fun fireworks show for a minute. Some of those raw, raw guys,
Starting point is 00:21:14 you know, you hear it once or twice, but I think his players really believe in them. So, Lions had a great season. I know it's not really what they wanted, but I think if you asked them, they'd do this again, the exact same way. Just get a little better, and they did. Get a little farther, and they did.
Starting point is 00:21:32 So congratulations to the Lions, but to be the man, you've got to beat the man. Right, Patrick Mahomes. I saw the, they opened up a point and a half underdog. I don't know what it is now, but San Francisco was a point and a half favorite. Oh, wow. I haven't even looked at that.
Starting point is 00:21:47 I'm still licking my wounds from Sunday. You are? You texted us yesterday and he said Brock Pretty is making him mad. Yeah, because, I mean, he keeps proving me wrong. I'm a hater. I've always been a Brock Pretty hater. And man, he just got better and better as the game went on.
Starting point is 00:22:03 And people love that when he has a bad game, they go in hard on him. But every quarterback has a... Peyton Manning, the year they won their last Super Bowl, had terrible. Like, all quarterback, Tom Brady had playoff games that were not good where the defense had to save him. But boy, Brock Pretty, one bad game.
Starting point is 00:22:21 He sucks. It's at one right now. It's at one. All right. Tiddle-Taddle over. Thank you. 25 whistles presented by Draft King's Sportsbook and official sports betting partner of the NFL. Download the draft king's app.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Use the code Bobby Sports to get in on the action. We're just hitting part. That's what we do on the show. We just hit in parleyes. Chief's Money Line. Hey, it took some balls to pick. Yeah. We could have taken the points.
Starting point is 00:22:50 I did. Because to be the man, you got to beat the man, is what I always say. So as a win, 49ers money line. I did worry about that a little bit. But at the same time, I also had the Lions plus seven and a half. So I hit them both. I was in that one little window. That was personally for you.
Starting point is 00:23:04 That's a personal one bet. Yeah. Well, because it got, when it hit seven and a half before the game, that's when I took it. I wasn't going to bet it at seven. but if they're going to give me an extra half point, let's go. And so I did. But when it was 10, I was a little worried there at the end. And then Mahomes over 239, he threw for 241.
Starting point is 00:23:21 It was literally the last pass. Yeah, it's crazy. It was crazy. So we won't, baby? Let's go. We're on a hot streak. If you want to take the 25 whistles parlay, you can check out Draft King's Sportsbook.
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Starting point is 00:23:55 Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment,
Starting point is 00:24:25 and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right what you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes,
Starting point is 00:24:49 follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. The 26 NFL draft is here, and the NFL Daily podcast has it covered from all angles. Join me, Greg Rosenthal, and Jordan Roderig after night one on Thursday. Nick Shook joins me night two Friday and then Sunday to recap everything that went down over the three days in Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 00:25:12 We'll tell you who won the draft and which players were my favorite picks. Listen to NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal on the free IHeart Radio app. Open the app, search NFL Daily, and listen now. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl.
Starting point is 00:25:34 You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that Trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of The Girlfriends... Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck.
Starting point is 00:25:57 I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe.
Starting point is 00:26:15 on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Guys, I got myself into, I'm not going to say trouble. Uh-oh. But, and I just got to notice when I was delivered to the house. So if you get on TikTok,
Starting point is 00:26:36 and I'd sent you guys little videos, I didn't even know what it was. What is this? And I'd always scrolled by and like, what are they selling? Because they're never showing anybody's face. It would just show like boxes. And so it stayed on...
Starting point is 00:26:47 Boxes in hands. Yeah, in a sign-up sheet. So it was like, hey, pay 30 bucks and you can pick a team. And so I thought you pay 30 bucks and you just get whatever helmets from that team. I didn't realize it was like a lottery. They were only opening three boxes. But 32 teams have been bought. So it's like 32 times 30.
Starting point is 00:27:09 So you have $900 or whatever. But they give away three helmets. They don't know what's in the boxes. The boxes come sealed. I didn't realize that until all the teams are filling up. And I was like, I just paid this money. and I got like a one in 10 chance. This is stupid.
Starting point is 00:27:22 How much money did you put in? $35.39. $39? Yes. That's great. Okay. You're saying $3,500 first. Yeah, me too.
Starting point is 00:27:33 I'd be freaking out. $39. You say it's great, but 26 people don't win. Right. Hey, man. That's the game. That's the game. But you're going for these signed helmets.
Starting point is 00:27:46 I didn't realize it was like a lottery, which makes me not want to do all the time now. I thought if I could just buy them, be like, so I was like, I'll go in, whatever. And so I picked the, um, there were only like two teams left. One of them was the stupid commanders. And I was like, all right, I take the commanders.
Starting point is 00:28:01 They opened the goddamn box and guess what it is? Brian Robinson signed commander helmet. The helmet's sick, too. I think it's in my house today. So I won and I'm like, what? I thought everybody won them when I realized they did and I was like, I just pissed away $40. And then I won the signed helmet.
Starting point is 00:28:17 He's running back for the commanders. So I was like, this is crazy. I got to do it again. And I told my wife, and I said, this is what's going on. And it was like $42 for the second one. And I said, I'm going to buy two teams. She was like, we have to watch this the whole time because they don't go until it's full. Yeah, how long does that take?
Starting point is 00:28:37 Dude, like 20 minutes one time when she was with me. And so I bought the Titans. Okay. Nice. And I bought them pretty early now that I understood the rules. And I bought the Bears. And so they opened three boxes, and at each box, there was a jersey and a helmet. But they didn't go to the same team.
Starting point is 00:28:59 So they pull out the first jersey, Mike Singletary signed Bears Jersey. Wow. I freaking won again. What? That's amazing. I'm like, what? And she's like, what? I said, Mike Singletary, he's awesome.
Starting point is 00:29:12 She goes, whatever, you're just saying that because you want. Because she was like, you're just wasting money. Whatever. So they open up like the last one and it's a Houston Oilers helmet and I'm like that's the Titans Because Oilers were the Titans. I said please don't say they were the Texans because they weren't and he goes Warren Moon signed official helmet. What on earth? He said Houston Oilers so this goes to the Titans. I won a Warren Moon helmet a Mike Singletary signed jersey and then the helmet I'd already got so what? So I'm like 130 bucks in and I've got two helmets one that's and I was like Warren Moon on
Starting point is 00:29:46 My wife said, you're exaggerating. Warren Moon. Oh, come on. I was like, you know, I never heard it because he's older. Like, he's awesome. Yeah. And so she's like, really? And I was like, yes, I can't believe I won.
Starting point is 00:29:56 And she's like, I bet everybody wins. Because she wasn't watching like I was. Because she was just like, we're waiting for to watch a show. And I'm like, okay, so I couldn't. I was 30 for three. Yeah. Couldn't believe it. Let's go one more.
Starting point is 00:30:07 So I got, so the next day I'm on the toilet. And I get on it. I'm like, I'm going to do one more and hit again. I didn't hit. Oh. And I was like, okay. I'm back to reality. Paid your taxes.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Yes. So I'm like 170 bucks in. I got a Singletary jersey, two helmets. It's awesome. All signed. And before I get off, I'm like, let's just go one more time. And it was one of those where there's a jersey and a helmet in each one and they're all different. And I get in kind of early and I'm like, I'm going since that.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Draw something. There's something. And the last thing they pull is a Jamar Chase signed jersey. What? I wanted Jamar Chase. Oh my God. Dude, what on earth? You won four things?
Starting point is 00:30:53 I had to pay 40 bucks. That's dirt cheap. I know. That's dirt cheap. What are we doing with these things? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I have nothing to do with them.
Starting point is 00:31:02 We've got to start a sports bar or something. Dude, I have Mike Singletary, Jamar Chase, jerseys coming in. Warren Moon. And the commanders. And the Brian Robinson, the running back of commanders helmet's coming in. See, you sent me the video of the commanders when I'm like, That's just a random. Didn't know you're a commanders fan.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Didn't know you're a Brian Robinson fan. I had no idea what this was. I know. I just picked a freaking team. His last one up or like there were like two left, like the Panthers and the commanders. That's crazy. So is it the same,
Starting point is 00:31:37 is it new people each time? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Because imagine being like you're on that like your four times and then this this guy wins four times. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And you don't win once.
Starting point is 00:31:47 I'd be so fit. Oh, I got two of them in the same time though. The single turn in the war and the war on the same. the same, they call it a break. Did anybody say anything? Like, break that? Well, yes and no. The guy, he'd write your name down a piece of paper, like in a marker.
Starting point is 00:32:01 And he goes, oh, Bobby Bones. And then everybody's like, Bive Bones in here? No way. The real Bive? So that thing kind of took over more so than people were like pissed that I want to. But dude, like, I want to do it right now. Those people ever show their faces? Or is it just their hands? No, and I thought about asking for a face, but then I thought that sounded like creepy.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Yeah, it's a little weird. You see how that comes up. a little weird asking for a face. Can I see your face, please? I mean, I did think about that. I was like, what do you guys look like anyway? Yeah. Face and feet.
Starting point is 00:32:27 And then one guy was like, man, I got to. So this is another one. They're on right now? Dude, it's constant. There's tons of people doing it. Can we all go in on one right now? Yeah, let me see what they're selling. It was 40 bucks.
Starting point is 00:32:43 We all do 10 bucks. This is absolutely insane. This is college football, serial number break, NFL football. $16.20. I don't know what they're giving away here. I heard Lionel Messi. I want that. Did you? Yeah. I heard college football. That's all I heard.
Starting point is 00:33:06 So it says break 537. Panini. There's a cards. I don't know what it is. A lot of energy in that room. It says solo edition. NFL football serial number break. If you were at one spot, you a chance they are when yours, Arch Banning. I don't know what that is.
Starting point is 00:33:42 What does that is? What does I mean? Josh Allen, Herbie. I think they're cards, like a one-of-one. Do you want to try to grab one? Yeah, I mean, I guess. I can try to find another one. Are there different ones of those things?
Starting point is 00:33:55 What do you call them? Is this like a live-stream? TikTok thing? Yeah, they're all breaks. And they're all live. TikTok live interacting with others, Christmas, 18, or older. They all have music to them.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Okay, autographed jersey series break two. All right, here we go. Now we're playing. Okay. So you can pick a division on this one, but there's only two down of the... Is the NFL division? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:17 NFC. 30 bucks. So if you get any team in the division, you get the jersey. Yeah. I got 10 bucks on it. You want in? Let's do it. That's 40.
Starting point is 00:34:28 That's 40. We would need to go... Mike, are you in or no? I'll be in. 50. Let's do two. You need two? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:36 So 20 bucks from everybody? Yeah. 20, 40, 60, 80. 80. We're still... It's like 25 bucks. All right, okay. Okay, I'm gonna, which one?
Starting point is 00:34:44 So here we have NFC South, NFC North, NFC East. NFC East, go for it. Okay, let me buy that one. AFC East? Hold on. Let me buy this one's bought. Yeah, yeah, I got you, buddy. Let them know.
Starting point is 00:35:06 NFC East. We're letting you know. I want to buy the other one here. Micah Parsons. Which one do you want? There's AFC, no, there's no AFC East. Dang. There's AFC North, AFC West.
Starting point is 00:35:19 West, AFC South, NFC North, NFC North. You picked the last one, Eddie. Yeah, I'm just looking. I'm just looking. Better hurry, though. What do you guys want? South. What did you say? NFC South is in there? NFC South.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Yeah. Yeah? I don't want the AFC North. I know that. NFC South? What are the other ones again? NFC North? That could be cool.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Yeah. North's pretty good. Okay. NFC North. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Oh, yeah. You're looking at Vikings, Bears, Packers, on. Justin Jeffers. We didn't win. We didn't win. The single jersey break. The NFC East is going to Mr. Bobby. We didn't win.
Starting point is 00:36:09 No, no. We didn't win. He's telling me who's what I have. He's telling me we, we didn't win. He opens it, but I have that one. We have that one under my name, and then we have the one we just buy. Hey, my heart. Thank you very much, Mr. Bobby.
Starting point is 00:36:23 No problem. Any time. Yeah. So then they listen to music. until everybody fills it up. It sometimes takes forever. That's the cranberries. They are fighting!
Starting point is 00:36:35 But that's not the cranberries singing. In your hair. Uh-oh. Oh. Don't. Do you get a call? Ignore it. I got a...
Starting point is 00:36:42 I did get a call in a head. I didn't order a minute ago. Says something like 911 emergency. Oh, no, no, no. Don't worry about that. We'll take care of that later. Okay. Let's see how many are left.
Starting point is 00:36:52 And we can move on it. So it's going to open one jersey and that's it. And there are still four... We got the NOSY North, too. And netheres are open. Okay, I want to turn it down until we... Okay. Until they get closer to breaking it.
Starting point is 00:37:21 All right. We are fighting. So that's what you do. And then you watch and you go, I hope I win. And then you get a freaking jersey from a backup center. No, I did. I got Mike Singletary and Jamar Chase. Yeah, that's crazy, dude.
Starting point is 00:37:33 So that's what I did this weekend. And I just got to notice that something has landed at the house. I think it's that helmet. The first helmet. I got to stop, though, because I'm going to have so much crap. And I don't even want it. it's just fun to do. Yeah, I know, I know.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Like, I'm going to wear this stuff to work. You start thinking, like, what am I going to do with this thing? If I show up in a Jamar changed jersey and I'm wearing it, it's probably signed. That's legit, though. Warren Moon Helmet. That's legit, though. That's the one that's super legit. Like, what am I doing with a Mike Singletary jersey, though?
Starting point is 00:38:02 Because I'm not going to frame it. Right. But that is cool. Yeah. BYU students are asked to remove their t-shirts that red horned down. This was so stupid. Come on. Over on kind of the baseline, right behind the goal, kind of the right-of-
Starting point is 00:38:14 of it. They wore white t-shirts, H on one, O, on another, all the way horns down. And then at the first time out, they went and had them change their shirts. Come on. So dumb. Tec, whomever's doing this, not sure who told them to do so. However, it could have been BYU. It could have been Texas, telling BYU. It's going to be real bad for Texas because everybody's, they're going into the SEC now where they're not king dingling anymore. And people are going to be like, we do not care what you want. They'll do horns out night at an arena where they make one big H in this section, one big O in this section, one big O. So it's not a good look for Texas. Yeah, you got to hope it's not them but it doesn't even matter because it was them when the coach did it. And that's what's made
Starting point is 00:39:01 all this happen. If I were Texas, that's a compliment. I've said it before. They're taking your gesture and using it against you. That means they have to know your gesture. That means it's in their brain. It's in their consciousness. How many gestures do you know? Only a few. And my five-year-old now thinks horns down is just boo everyone. He horns down every team. Doesn't matter what team is. Maybe he just saying down with the devil. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Maybe that's what he's saying, too. Let's see where we are on this. Come on, baby. I need this. Well, what are we going to do if we win it, though? Did we cut it into five pieces? There's still four things left. We hang it up on your desk when we do the show.
Starting point is 00:39:42 All right. Still four left. Like four spots of Phil? Yeah. Okay. Got three divisions down in the single Jersey break. Three. We have the NFC south left and then all four of the AFC.
Starting point is 00:40:14 I mean. Eddie doesn't want to buy another one to get it moving? Don't do that. I'm telling you. It's a trap. It's a trap. All right. Moving on.
Starting point is 00:40:22 Chiefs 49ers Super Bowl. We know that. People say they like the halftime show. No, they don't. Nobody likes a halftime show. It doesn't matter who it is. More people complain than anything. What halftime show?
Starting point is 00:40:32 Exactly. I don't watch that. Usher this year, pretty cool. All right. We'll see. I got you for that, sir. You can talk to them those? I can type a message in.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Join the live right now. I wonder if they let me just. Keep there. He's request to join as a guest. What side is? And you're on the show. Congratulations. JD KS
Starting point is 00:41:01 Hold on TikTok? Yeah Whoa, whoa JD I say we're doing JDKS breaks Yeah
Starting point is 00:41:15 With the Z on it Oh no Yep Only 13 people We're doing our show live All right You want to A reason too
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Starting point is 00:42:57 Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment,
Starting point is 00:43:27 and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok podcast network on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:43:55 The 2026 NFL draft is here and the NFL Daily podcast has it covered from all angles. Join me, Greg Rosenthal and Jordan Roderig after night one on Thursday. Nick Shook joins me night two Friday and then Sunday to recap everything that went down over the three days in Pittsburgh. We'll tell you who won the draft and which players were my favorite picks. Listen to NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal on the free IHeart Radio app. Open the app, search NFL Daily, and listen now. There's two golden rules that any man should live by.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield. And in this new season of the girlfriends, Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist.
Starting point is 00:44:57 I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, we're back. We're going to talk with Jim Edmonds. We're still waiting on this break. Hopefully when this is over. Come on, man. Let's talk with Jim Edmonds.
Starting point is 00:45:38 Jim won the 2006 World Series of the Cardinals. Is a color analyst for Cardinals TV broadcast. Gold Glove. Dude's awesome. He's been working on a project and released a new helmet called Light Helmets. And we asked him about the project. And so he hopped on to talk with us.
Starting point is 00:45:54 You can follow him on Instagram at Jim Edmonds 15. And here he is, Jim Edmonds. Were you a good football player? like all-around athlete. Yeah, I played a lot of soccer, football, and baseball. What percentage did you play in football? Quarterback. I played a little bit of free safety when we had a lead that I didn't have to play
Starting point is 00:46:13 quarterback, and then I kicked off, I punted, I kicked field goals. So you were just the best athlete that they just put you everywhere that had the ball in last. You know what, growing up playing soccer and stuff, it helped a lot with kicking. And then, you know, I played a little bit of basketball. I wasn't a fan of basketball. You know what's really funny is, to me, my, when my, my, my littlest one is like six. He plays a little bit of basketball, but seems super fast when I was a kid.
Starting point is 00:46:36 Like you get the ball and everyone's in your face. And it was, I don't know why you can create more space during soccer. So I kind of just stayed with soccer and football and baseball. I guess basketball is fast. You're either good at basketball. I just felt like you're faster. I just felt like you're like that was you, you were that dude. I think I never played it growing up, really. So when I tried to play it, it just, you know, the game was super fast. And it's not like, you have a big learning curve in basketball. It's like they're on you in a hurry. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:47:05 I like the sport as I got older, but when I tried to play when I was younger, I was plus I played soccer, indoor soccer, football, and I was falling out all the time. It's almost February. So baseball about to kick up pitchers, catchers, everybody slowly gets back in the mix. Is this a time of year that most of the guys look forward to or is this the time of year where they're like, oh, God, here we go again? No, I think, you know, the further you get into like,
Starting point is 00:47:30 now, January, you're like, let's get started. You know, you're tired of working out at home. I used to leave early every year. We, you know, spring training starts later and later. I think it starts later than it used to. I remember starting in the first or second week of February. Now usually it's like Valentine's Day, right? It's almost like they do it on purpose. But I used to go like February 1st, Arizona when I was with the Angels. Just because of the weather. It was warmer. A lot of guys would go early. get a good workout on the field. Coaches were there.
Starting point is 00:48:05 And I just, you know, it's like after you work out at home, you know, it's like enough practice. I want to get out on the field and start to get after it. How do you feel about 162 games in possibly lowering total games? I don't think, I mean, 162 is a lot. I think that 145 is a lot. I think the minor league schedule is in the 140-something range. And that was the old school number.
Starting point is 00:48:30 So I think that that's still a lot. But, you know, you don't have the window that you have in other sports because you have to play in the good weather. So, you know, football and all the other sports that are inside, you can kind of get a little bit of a break, but you don't want to play in the cold. And, you know, that's as far as you can stretch it. It's so hard to stay invested as, listen, as a baseball fan
Starting point is 00:48:52 and you as a former player, but it's so hard to stay invested for 162 because it's just so, where it's easy for me to stay invested in the NFL. It's a bit easier for me to stay invested in NBA, although they're playing almost 100 games. So, you know, that... They play 80 now, too, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:10 Yeah, so that definitely is up there, but they're, you know, playing a couple nights a week. But the 162, it just seems like it's so difficult for me to stay constantly involved, even as more than just a moderate fan. And I think that's probably what's the separation in American sports and why baseball has kind of taken a slight backseat to football and basketball. What do you think about that? I think you're right.
Starting point is 00:49:30 I think it's even harder on the players to stay focused for the whole, you know, six months. You're talking about 162 games and 180 days. So you're basically, you know, if you're getting two days off a month, I think the schedule is a little bit better now. But back when I played, if you're getting two days off a month, that's a lot. Sometimes you go six weeks or five weeks about a schedule, a break. And if you do, those are sometimes traveling across the country in the plane for four or five hours. So that's not much of a break. And yeah, actually, you're the first person that never said that.
Starting point is 00:50:02 And it makes a lot of sense because you know what you're talking about with sports. I, you know, follow you on Instagram and obviously listen to your show. And you do get around and you see all the different things and you put yourself out there with going to different colleges and stuff. But that makes a lot of sense. It is hard to stay invested. You have to be a diehard man to watch half of the games, I would think. And I always find it interesting if I don't pay attention for a couple of days. I'm like, wow, how'd they get from L.A. to Chicago,
Starting point is 00:50:31 Washington, D.C. in the last four days. Like, what just happened? Right. Yeah, it's definitely different. You have a Falcons helmet behind you, I think? Yeah. Are you a Falcons fan? No, that's a prototype, actually, of the company that I bought a few years ago.
Starting point is 00:50:45 I saw that on your Instagram. So what are you trying to make helmets safer or you are making helmet safer? What exactly are you doing? Well, I bought a company that was started by Bill Simpson. And Bill Simpson's one of the guys. He's one of the race pioneers for auto racing. He's responsible for over 200 safety devices and barriers and things around the car and the helmet and all of the auto racing. And he started this company with the idea of making race helmets and then he tried to go into football.
Starting point is 00:51:16 And I don't think he really kind of had the angle to get into football. So he and a friend of mine that raced, knew each other. and then about five of us got together and bought the company from him, I think, in 19. And as soon as we started to turn it around, we hit COVID. So we kind of took a back seat for a while. And then after COVID, we started ramping up a little bit. And now what we have is a finished product. And now we have all of our safety ratings from Virginia Tech.
Starting point is 00:51:45 We've got five-star safety ratings. It's the highest you can get. Virginia Tech is the most important safety system in all of the NFL, all of high school, everything. And then the NFL now we're in, we're actually in 18 locker rooms as of this week. That means that we're there. We got in a little late this last year,
Starting point is 00:52:05 so guys had the option of trying it, but it's hard to get people to switch over in the middle of a year. So next year it'll be an option in pretty much almost every locker room in the NFL. And now I'm just trying to get people aware of it because I think it's actually more of a safety device for the younger kids and for the high school kids because what we did is basically just same helmet as everyone else has, but it's lighter.
Starting point is 00:52:28 And you can see on the inside here, this is the stuff that they use in racing helmets. It's a beaded concoction, basically. And so this helmet, for example, Bobby, is a kid's helmet. It's three pounds. It's that light? Yeah, every other kid's helmet out there right now weighs from five to six pounds. So imagine if you had a 7, 8 year old son, 10 year old son, and he had a 6-pound, 5-pound helmet on,
Starting point is 00:52:59 and then you gave him a 3-pound helmet on, how much of an advantage you would have. Not to mention this is just as safe, if not safer, as this stuff is made out of composite. One of it's made out of composite, one is made out of poly, and then the NFL helmets are actually made out of nylon. But it's some of the stuff we got from the military. It's the stuff they're making all their helmets out of now.
Starting point is 00:53:19 but a lot of the kids get a lot of concussions and whiplash because their heads are so light and so small and their shoulder pads are so big that they get a lot of headwhip and that creates a lot of damage for the younger kids and including the high school kids too NFL not so much but we made a safer helmet for them too and our helmet in the NFL right now is on the heavy side it's four pounds most NFL helmets are five and a half
Starting point is 00:53:47 six pounds six point two pounds so So we're just trying to really try to reduce concussions right now. And that's something I played with, something I've had since high school playing football, something I got in playing baseball. And I just kind of took a huge interest in it. And I love it now. And I'm kind of obsessed with it. It's kind of my life right now.
Starting point is 00:54:07 So if parents are listening to this obviously and their kids play like Pop Warner or just youth football, can you buy your helmet from a place? Like can you just go and order one and then have it made to whatever the team is? Yeah, you will do all the painting and stuff, but you can get them at Dix. You can get them at a couple of different places. But to be honest with you, going on our website at lighthelmets.com, and they will walk you through everything. They'll show you how to measure.
Starting point is 00:54:34 They'll get you the choices of colors. They'll paint everything for you for all one price. If you go on my Instagram, I have a code in my bio that gives you 15% off, and it will give all the links and all the advertisement to light helmet. But I would suggest any parent that has a young child that plays football to go just look at the website and see what the advantages are, see what the press clippings are, what all the safety ratings are now, and just check it out and do some research because it was interesting. I was talking to someone and everyone goes back and says, well, we're happy with the good
Starting point is 00:55:12 old-fashioned helmets that we know about. And I said, well, cars are changing too. You know, cars are getting lighter, faster and safer. Well, now helmets are getting lighter and safer, and we're going to be the reason behind it. When you were playing ball, did you have the double ears or single? You know, because some of the guys would make, especially they switch hit. They'd have both sides covered. What was your baseball helmet?
Starting point is 00:55:37 What was your preference then? You had to wear a double ear flap until you got to the big leagues. And that was it. So always the double ear flap until you get to the big leagues. And then the first time you go to big league camp, it feels a little weird, but to go back to a double ear flap. That just, I can think of a few guys that were him, but kind of like one of my friends and one of the guys I can remember the most, Shane Victorino was one of the guys that wore the double ear flap because he was a switch hitter. And he looked like he had a big 10-gallon house. Yeah, it looks huge.
Starting point is 00:56:08 Yeah, it looks like all Steve Tasker used to play from Buffalo. He had like the two layers of helmets on. That's what that's kind of what it looked like there. Too many concussions. Too many concussions. You needed a better helmet. But a lot of these other companies, it's interesting to see. And I don't like to talk down about this, but we get all of the concussion reports now that
Starting point is 00:56:26 were involved in the NFLPA and all this other information that I'm truly fascinated by because if you look into, and by the way, the concussions have gone up 20% in the NFL this year. So it's still an ongoing problem. And that's kind of why I took to a liking of this. I think it's as much important at the NFL level, but I think the children's level is, you know, there's a governing body that is in control of all of the 14 years and under Pop Warner Leagues and stuff,
Starting point is 00:56:58 and they're actually going to mandate in 2025 that helmets are three and a half pounds or lighter. We're the only company in the world right now that can do that. So these other companies are going to have to catch up to us in order to be able to get down to that level. I expect them to try to bargain and push that back, but we're ready for it. And right now, if I had a kid and all of my friends right now, their kids are starting to wear these.
Starting point is 00:57:24 And if I had a child playing football at that age, I would 100% have him wear this. Just the difference in the two pounds is night and day. Can I get the single bar punter look for like just the helmet with a single bar and I can wear it while doing the show? You know, you go. You can wear this one. It's not too bad. That face mask a little too much.
Starting point is 00:57:43 talking about one bar like 19702 hunter like you know nothing's going to get in my face so because i got to have it to talk and do the show you know but it's when jose isman had that one bar yeah same deal i don't think he had the punter he didn't have a smaller mask i think he had one bar back in the day like just enough to like keep it from flying off his head um you know i had a conversation there's a kid that plays for detroit his name is jack fox he's from here in st louis and i texted that in the other day and I said, hey, bad timing and all, but just wanted to give you a heads up when you get home. I want to talk to you about this helmet. And he kind of asked me a couple question. He said, you know, all the skill position guys are always asking every day, how do we get a
Starting point is 00:58:24 lighter helmet? So it's going to be interesting to see what happens when we get a full year under our belt in the NFL and we get the word out. So I appreciate you having me on because I think this thing is really important. I picture at Virginia Tech when they're doing these tests to see how safe they are like the old crash test dummies but we put them in cars and crash them into walls like what do they do they put it like on a on it like a boxing bag and slam it into stuff yeah they do it just like that but the opposite they put the helmet on say like a phony head with a little you know like a little uh wiggle thing and they bring in battering rams and basically hit it and then test um what the impact strike is like how much the head moves it was very
Starting point is 00:59:06 interesting at one point, I think, that they told us that our helmet is as safe as you can get, but it's a little too light because what happened was when the battering ram was hitting the helmet, it was moving more because the helmet was light. But then our CEO was like, okay, well, then put a head in there, and it won't move as much, and you're now safer. So there's all kinds of things that people try to do, especially when you're the new guy on the block, but we'll stand by it. We had an entire high school in California switched to our helmets in one year. In 2022, they had 17 concussions as a school. In 2023, they had two. So we're pretty happy with that result. And those are the only two concussions that we've had reported to our company since we started. So I think this is like a big deal.
Starting point is 00:59:54 I really do. I'm really into safety for kids. I have kids. And that's what kind of drew me to this situation. So I'm pretty excited about it. I just hope that we can get some traction. next year in the NFL and then get the word out like I said. Lighthelmets.com, L-I-G-Helmets.com, if you're a parent or an NFL player. Probably more parents listen than NFL players. A couple NFL players. I don't know. You got a pretty good rating.
Starting point is 01:00:19 I think there's a lot more people listening than you think. Mostly parents. Baker-M-A-Feld listens. We're a big Baker guy. Big Baker guys here. I'm a big Rayfield fan. He's a good player. Hey, are you back on the broadcast team begin this year?
Starting point is 01:00:31 Yeah. You look forward to that? I don't have the dates exactly, but yeah, I'll probably do anywhere. between 50 and 60 games this year with the Cardinals travel a little bit. I had a little accident, so I might have to have knee surgery here in the next couple of weeks. But other than that, good to go. And I'm excited for baseball. I think there's no way that this Cardinal team can be as bad as last year.
Starting point is 01:00:50 So we're pretty excited around here because they're going to be good again, I think, this year. Let me ask you a self-as question then. Craig Counsel, do you play with them? Do you know them from playing back in the day? And what do you think he's going to do with that Cubs franchise, that Cubs team? Yeah, I played with. I played against them for our basically our whole career and talked I talked to him you know when he was managing. I thought it was an interesting situation the whole deal. I thought that, you know, what they had before was doing great.
Starting point is 01:01:17 I thought Craig was very happy in Milwaukee. He lives in Milwaukee. I'm actually shocked that he went to Chicago, but then I love that what he said was, you know, he's doing it for everyone. He's kind of now a trend center to get the managers more money, which I think is a great deal that he kind of put it on everyone and not just himself. I think he's a good manager. I think everyone loves him. I think he's no nonsense. He's very mild. You see him when you watch TV.
Starting point is 01:01:45 He's just kind of very humble in the dugout. Doesn't really get too riled up. And when he does, he's straight to the point. I think he's going to do a good job with the Cubs. If they're going to spend money and go after players, then he's going to be better sooner. but if he's going to have to develop, it's going to take him a few years. Does the manager have the same just control as the manager did 10 years ago,
Starting point is 01:02:09 meaning isn't so much of analytics? I think it's going back to baseball. I think the analytics have now been proven that it's almost too much information, and the information that they are consumed with is the wrong information. You know, you got the whole launch and the whole bat's, speed and the launch angle and all that. That's great, right? That is going to create home runs. But you can't take Craig counsel, so to speak. You remember that battings that he had with way up here? You can't go and teach him to try to hit home runs. You still have to tab players
Starting point is 01:02:45 and their individual personalities. And it's not robots. And everybody can't be a radio announcer. Everybody can't be a baseball player. And if you are that person, you've got to be yourself. And so I think they're starting to throw away the analytics and just take bits of it. and pieces of what's really important as far as how to get players better and get away from, we all need to do it this way. That means I got a chance. If analytics are gone, I still got some room. You got a chance.
Starting point is 01:03:10 I don't know. I've seen you play basketball lately, football. You only see the greatest hits, though. We only put the good ones up. Lighthelmets.com. You're putting yourself out there. L-I-G-H-T-Lighthelmets.com. Jim, good to talk to you, buddy.
Starting point is 01:03:22 I hope to talk to you again real soon. Congratulations on the company starting to really expand. I appreciate it. Thanks for having me again. And like I said, big fan. Can't wait to hear you tomorrow. All right, Jim, see you, buddy. A win is a win.
Starting point is 01:03:37 A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined.
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Starting point is 01:06:15 And I'm going to ask him to see his face. Those. Well, three doors down. Yeah, I like it. So what's on the screen there? They look like baseball cards. That's some kind of box that he would open in a break. But I'm not sure which one that is.
Starting point is 01:06:36 It's a football player, dude. Okay. Well, no, I know. Got a great. Yeah. What's up, man? Who? Producer Eddie.
Starting point is 01:06:43 Can you say that? What's up, baby? Walter Payton, right? We guys play me a Walter Payton jersey. All right, well, you want to do the end of the show now? Read. And then we'll just come back whenever they finally break it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:57 If they ever. Alrighty. Said all righty. I can't guarantee. It's a blind, a blind break. So I don't know what's in these boxes. They come sealed. And I don't open them.
Starting point is 01:07:18 them tell, uh, yeah, I just do what they tell me. Is that true, though? It's trying to break it. I just watch them cut them, but I mean, I'm sure you can bring it. I mean, you can buy a sealer. Yeah. I think they'd stop sending them to you, though, if they found out your cheat. All right.
Starting point is 01:07:34 Okay. Into the show. I just want to say, got to beat the man, you got to beat the man. Yeah, that's good, man. Go Chiefs. Might as well say that. Hopefully next time we do this show, I have a helmet or two up here. Oh, that'd be amazing.
Starting point is 01:07:45 And hopefully we got a jersey here. Yeah. Anything you guys want to say? Uh, no, man. All right. You just want to go and watch this? Go, jeez. If they break it, we'll come back and just hit record, okay?
Starting point is 01:07:54 All right, we'll see you guys. Eddie Blow the Whistle. Oh, yeah, here we go. It's coming. David, this is, you take forever watching this thing. I know, I got distracted. All right, we'll see you guys next time, or in a few minutes. Let's go.
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