The Bobby Bones Show - 25W: Missouri HC Eliah Drinkwitz + Texas A&M HC Mike Elko + Is T-Swift the Reason for Travis Kelce Underperforming?

Episode Date: September 27, 2024

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There's a guy who was shot and killed after a dispute over a jukebox song. Which one was it? Oh, you think it's about the song? I feel like it's probably about the disrespect more than they're fighting about a song. Usually that's what it is. Yeah.

I kind of didn't want to know what song that was, though. Well, I can get it into the story. I didn't even read about the song because I figure one of them plays a song. It doesn't matter what it is, but the other one wants a song. It doesn't matter what it is. Yeah.

And it's just a disrespect issue. But a guy's dead after a dispute over a jukebox, starting to turn violent at a Mexican restaurant in Fort Lauderdale. Oh, no. The argument, start at 1.30 a.m. They were drunk. Alcohol. Yeah.

And then for sure, disrespect. One man insulted another over a song choice on the music machine. Quote, I heard that there were two guys, and they got into the argument because one of them played a song and the other guy was pissed off. The guy got insulted, pulled his wife. weapon and started shooting the other guy. Oh, dang.

Bro. They don't talk about the songs. Margaritas. The altercation escalated quickly. The man who insulted this song allegedly drew his weapon first, but the other man near the jukebox firebacks. They both had guns. What is it?

The Wild West. It's what it feels like. Like they walked in those swinging doors. Florida, baby. Saloon? Because, again, they both happened to have guns right then. They just pulled them out. Fort Lauderdale police confirmed the identity of the victim as 54-year-old.

Secoro, Camacho, authorities are still investigating the shooting. No song mentioned here. Well, it wasn't even about the song. Well, no, they did. They got mad about the song choice, it said. But it was mostly about the disrespect. The insult of the song. Right.

I was at a bar one time and I played, what did I play? It was like one of the Rocky songs. Because it's cool. Going hard now. Is that it? That one? No, no. Coming on.

And some guy in there was so upset. Who put Rocky on? And I'm like, what? And I didn't, I didn't not raise my hand. Like, I wasn't going to be like, I did. I didn't think that was so controversial, Rocky. I feel like everyone loves Rocky.

I feel like there was just something going on with him and maybe, or maybe people play that song all the time because I was shocked to see it on the jukebox. First off, like that's pretty cool. It also could have been Survivor. Survivor. I had the tiger, maybe.

Gosh, I don't remember. It was a few years back. Few? Yeah. Is that James Brown one. Living in America. Rocky 3. Rocky 3.

I don't know, dude. Maybe like 10 years ago. Probably longer, huh? Maybe. Was it here in Tennessee? No, I was back in Texas. So it had to be longer. It's like 15 years.

It's our thing with our age now. Everything seems three years ago. I know. That's not good. And it wasn't. Everything. Everything seems. Yeah, it's 2005.

Everything. A couple things that I want to talk about. We can do the UNLV thing first. And I think we've had a couple days now for it to happen. But you familiar with story? Quarterback? quarterback decides, hey, I'm going to go ahead and check out. I didn't get the money I was promised, $100,000.

And everybody has come out with their side of it. Like the school's like, we never promised him that. That's not in writing. The collectives like we didn't. And he's like, no, an assistant coach and the dad. Everybody has their side. And I don't know that I see a specific side that's proved one way or the other who's telling the truth. But there are a couple things from this.

It's the, if the dad is this involved, this is his fault. Because unless you have something in writing, nothing really exists. Unfortunately, yeah. So as the adult, as the responsible person, because that dad seems like he's involved in this now. He is now, so maybe he was then. I assume he would be. Was he recruited there? Was he recruited there?

Was he a freshman when he went to UNFLE? No, he came from Holy Cross. He transferred. So he was a transfer. So I would assume that whoever the adult was, it was involved in this screwed up, you can never have any sort of monetary agreement. and expect it to hold true unless it's in writing. So that's number one.

Number two, this is the greatest thing to ever happen to college football. Because I've said forever, there needs to be absolute pandemonium for there to be any rules that are made. Like it has to prove that it is so broken for anybody to step in and actually form it in a way that seems to be healthier for the sport. So speaking of the Wild West, that's what it kind of feels like right now with NIL, with Portal, with because there are no rules and regulations. As a matter of fact, it keeps getting less and less rules and regulations. But I can't think that college football or the people behind all this didn't think that, hey, let's start paying college players money and let's not have any real regulations,

and they thought it was just going to be okay. But you didn't hear what I just said. It slowly pilled itself back less and less rules. There was never a day where they went, all the rules are gone. The case goes to Supreme Court, the O'Bannon case, about a video game, right? That happens. Now players can get paid. which they should have been paid all along.

It's so stupid. What's the difference in paying for a scholarship of a kid or giving him money? He's getting paid. Cash money versus going to the school. There's no difference. Because other people have to pay their own cash money to get that. So it's a value, right? It'd be like, okay, we won't give him an eye on money.

We'll give me a gift card. Well, that's a difference. But it's not. It's the same thing. So with the billions of dollars that these schools are making off of these kids, I think it is absolutely right that the people who are creating the income make some of the income. But they just didn't go one day,

everybody can transfer and everybody gets paid. Not at all. The portal happened like five or six years ago. It was a slow roll. All of a sudden the transfer, and people didn't really know how to use it. The NIL happens because the Supreme Court, they then are married to each other

because then people would get in the portal because of the ability to be paid. So there was never a moment where a board sat around and went like, surely this won't end bad. The onion just kept getting peeled back little by little until, because everybody takes advantage of it, rightfully. So we all do.

We all take advantage of everything we're given to the max that we can take advantage of it. Even like at work. Like how much can you get away with actually not working? Taxes. Dude, not me. Not, no, no. You're out of your mind. I didn't say that.

People do that. That's you. Do people not. Hey, look at my stuff. I'm clean. Here's my point. My point is this. We need absolute disasters to happen.

So rules and regulations that make sense. now are kind of dictating what college athletics is. We need this. We need this happen 10 times. The crazy thing's happening now? Because this story happens. I loved it. I loved to see mayhem.

But it sucks for you and LV. It really does. And Coach Odom, a friend of the show. Coach Odom's awesome. He's a 40% passer. Who gives crap? Their backup quarterback almost just as good. Okay.

My point is, we needed this to happen. We need more of this to happen. The new thing that's happening is, if you play in four games, I believe, is the rule, you no longer can red shirt. So you can play three games. But if you play your fourth,

you no longer can redshirt. So some of these student athletes are going, I'm three games in. I've played in three games, but I'm not really making much money. And I don't want to waste a year because I only have four years of earning potential. So I'm going to go ahead and go,

I'm going to red shirt, then they only do it once. so it's not like they can transfer every year. You can only redshirt once. So the bear kid from USC is doing this. He went to Georgia or was like recruited to Georgia, a big recruit. Now he's at USC. He's like, I played three games. I'm transferring.

Four games, up to four games. Yeah. And then Notre Dame kid did this too, a corner. He did. Same thing? No, this is going to happen all over the place. It's not surprised. I'm sure since we recorded this,

because it's that time of the year. It's the fifth game, fourth game, whatever it is. A lot of kids, and it's not a bad decision. It is within the rule. So why would you not do it? If you're an athlete that may not go to the NFL and what 9% of them do, some crazy stat where it's not that many, why would you not take advantage of the four to five years where you actually can make money off of your athletic career while you're going to school? Like I'm not going to fault anybody for doing this because it's within the rules.

Where I would fault somebody is if they were doing it and it wasn't like they found a loophole. This is not a loophole. This is right in the rules. and I'm never going to hate on somebody for going to get their money. Like people that do that are like, you're just a quitter. I don't know what happened with that. You know, like, you know, be kidding. Yeah, that's different because of Hussein.

I don't even think it's different. I don't know what's happened. I've talked to people on both, not really both sides, but I've talked to people who are in the program, and I've talked to people who are basically, I'll just call them reporters. And everybody kind of has a different story. And if the kid was promised $100,000 and wasn't paid it, that sucks.

and the problem was it wasn't in writing. But let's say it was, and it wasn't. But let's say it was. Anybody's promised something in writing they don't get it? I would quit too. It's a job. So I don't hate somebody for making a business decision ever. Will this decision hurt him in the future?

If he ended up making it in a very sloppy, reckless way, yes. But that's the risk you take whenever you make a business decision. This is a business decision. We're acting like college football is romantic and you just stick with your team. We don't do that with our jobs. If our jobs sucks or we're not getting paid, what we're promised, you leave. or you get fired. So we shouldn't attach a different emotion

because we romanticize college football. This is the only time... This kid is not going to play in the NFL. This is the only time he's ever going to get paid to play football. So why would you not maximize that the best possible? Well, the reason people get mad and the people who do get mad

or either people who are never going to make money playing sports or people who already have their money. Because if it was you in that situation or your kid, you're treated completely, different. So I'm not going to villainize the kid. I'm going to villainize the adults around him that didn't get it in writing because nothing is real unless it's in writing. You can handshake all day long. Those are the good old days, man. But see, it's people that say that too, that hate on college football for all the changes. Good old days. You shake someone's hand and be like,

all right, man, I will pay you tomorrow and they pay you. So I'm not going to hate on the kid. We need things to go really wrong for a while before somebody steps in to fix them. because otherwise they're just mildly broken, and who cares about something mildly broken? If your car's making a noise occasionally, you ain't taking it in. We're good. That light comes on and on.

Yeah, you ain't taking it in. We're good. We're good. We ain't taking it in. If smoke starts to come out or you break down, you get it fixed. We need smoke to come out

and for it to break down so that there's a bit of regulation to. It's happening. You've got to hit rock bottom. Yeah, that's what I would say. And so we need more of these stories. You're going to see a lot more people redshirting. And if it's your team, you're like,

what a loser. But you've got to put yourself in that same exact place. They're making business decisions. They are in a business. They're a business. Their teams are businesses. The schools are businesses. So good luck to that kid.

It's going to be tough. He's like the first one to do that. Also, I feel like if UNLV really wanted to keep them, they'd have just paid them $100,000. I feel like that's pretty easy for them, right? I mean, think about what's one slot machine pool? They're right down the street. Think about, though, how much a Mountain West, a shot at the Mountain West title or a college football playoff appearance is worth millions and millions of dollars. So if you felt like he was something that would keep you from it or allow you to get closer to it, you just pay him the $100,000.

And possibly a playoff. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. You just pay him the $100,000. Yeah. Yeah. The investment is well worth it. So unless you don't think the investment is worth it, which obviously they had decided it wasn't.

I don't know this but one of the rumors you probably saw online was like an offensive assistant coach just promised it to them and they didn't want to put it in writing because if you put it in writing such and such rules come into play

if that's the case well the risk you take by not letting those rules come into play is that it's not in writing and if they want to go now we're good they go now we're good but also if that assistant coach

really wanted you and was important. He'd find the money. So the collectives have the money. They're paying him $3,000 a month. So he was making $36 grand a month anyway. So they need to pay him another, what, $64,000? Yeah.

I'm not going to hate on the kid. That's a business. It's not elementary school. It is a business. We have to remember that. If we were there, we do the same thing. Who was a kid that wasn't there a quarterback that went to Florida? He never started the season, but he didn't get his money and he left.

It promised him millions of dollars. never got his money peace out i do the same thing if i'm committing somewhere because of something you're if i'm going to go work for a place because they're telling me you're going to have your own office we're going to give you this salary you're going to have your parking spot and i get there there there is no parking spot i don't have an office and i'm only making a fraction you just lied to me why would i work here you're out of your mind so we should look at that in the same way but we romanticized college football therefore we don't but we shouldn't as much because it's business. It does suck for UNLV though.

They're coming. It's just a distraction now for a pretty good season going so far. Historic season. Yeah, or it galvanizes. You see things that way. Well, I'm just saying it doesn't have to be a complete distraction. I saw some of the players now going finally. Yeah, this had to be going on for...

That's what I was wondering, like week to week as he telling himself, all right, you guys got one more week. One more week. I'm sure this did not come as a surprise to anybody that was in the central core of that program. And the sources that I have were not surprised at all, and I've heard different, slight different versions of the story from like four different people.

So there's no need to worry about who to trust or who's telling the truth. It exists. People are going to take advantage of the rules as they are. It is allowed. We would all take advantage of any rule we were allowed to do extra in if it's offered us. For sure.

Let people make their money. Don't hate on people for making it. their money. That's it. People love to tell people how to spend their money. People love it. Don't, there's no need. So I just wanted to comment on that. Things been out for a couple days. I'm glad it had, there's been some days to live with it where it's been in the news and I've called some people. Because my initial thought was, okay, if they promised him that money and they didn't give it to him, it doesn't matter where he works or what he's doing. I also would have left. You lied to me and said I was getting this if I come to do that regardless of what situation. But then he didn't sign anything.

And I'm like, oh, that's the parent's fault. Yeah. Unless we find out he did sign something, but they're saying he's that. Fever did not win, so not going to the game. They were down 10 or 11. They took the lead. I think they were up one with like four minutes left. They came back from 11 down. It was awesome.

Cantle Clark, but they had two people on her the whole night. So a little disappointing because I had courtside seats for game three. Can you reserve those for next season? I don't think it's a reserve thing. I don't think it's like the movies where you go on. You're like, hey, man, so we're not going to make the game. Obviously, I haven't had to. Can I cash that in next week?

The guy I know that Joey G, the executive, was like, dude, we'll do it again. Okay. Awesome. So, yeah, that happened. I put $100 in the Bengals to run the Super Bowl. Because the odds have gotten real good. When did you do that?

After they lost the third game. Huh. Because the odds were like plus $2,400 or something. And I was like, I think they'll end up making the play. The Steelers are won in that division right now. I don't think they're going to win that division. So when it's not a team that you expect to run away with it, there's a little room there.

So they are 0 and 3. I think if they win, I think if they go 9 and 8, they get in the playoffs. And I think they're better than a 9 and 8 team just generally. So you get in the playoffs, it all starts over. Joe Burrow, that's one of the quarterbacks I would take in my first four picks if I were having a new quarterback draft.

So I put $100 to win like, I don't know, $1,600 or $700. That's nice. And I don't put money on any other 06. team. But I feel like to Bengals, the odds got so bad that it was worth a $100 investment. I got to say, I don't think I've ever heard you say I put $100 on it. No, good job, dude. Yeah. That's pretty good. Very low. That's a low amount of money.

Wow. I mean that as a compliment. No, that's a lot. That's something I would do. Yeah, same. No, you wouldn't. You put $1.5. You don't put $100 on anything. Super Bowl? You're like flexing for no reason to flex. You don't put $100 on it.

You're right, I don't. Yeah. But also, I wasn't going to bet $1,000 on it because they're 0 and 3. No, I know, but still like 100's like, all right, cool. You're saying he's maturing a little bit? Yeah, yeah, sure. No, there's no maturation because I'm only getting richer, let's be honest. He's got the money.

Yeah, I'm saying my business decision was I don't want to put a bunch of money into 0-3 team because odds are they're not going to win the Super Bowl regardless of who it is. But when they do those stats, like only 9% of teams that start 0-2, what they're not factoring in is there are two new playoff teams now. So that really dicks with the percentages. So where it used to be eight, it's now nine, right? No, it's seven. It's seven teams.

It was six. It was six. Now it's seven. Yeah, thank you. One more team. So there are two teams on each side. So, and also that division with Pittsburgh leading the division. I don't think they're going to win that division.

No. Baltimore has struggled. Cleveland looks awful. Cleveland is terrible. And Cincinnati's 0 and 3. So with Baltimore not, you know, they find, Baltimore one beat the Cowboys, right? Got their first win. They're only one game over the Bengals, and those two teams are

still going to be the two teams probably that are fighting for the division. Because I don't think Pittsburgh's good enough offensively. Yeah. So that's why I made that bet. You guys may put more on it now. No, I like, shamed me for I do it a hundred bucks. I'm not saying, no, I think it's a good thing. I think it's like, I'm like, dang, he only

bets $100, too. That's cool. Nice. Oh, you're like him? Yeah, no, I don't ever do $100. What is your unit? Show me your unit. Whoa. Whoa. Oh. Off camera? What is your unit?

What do you mean by that? Like my top... How do you bet? Okay, I usually do five bucks. Okay, so five bucks is... On a single bet. Is your unit? And then if I do...

I think the most, like, I really, really will push is... Unit would be a normal standard bet. If you're just bent in one unit would be what it would... That's why people sometimes don't talk about money. They talk about how many units they bet because everybody's money's different. It's all relative to what they bet. So if I were to bet five units, that's probably... My unit is $100 bucks.

So if I'm just going to throw $100, that's just a normal. I feel okay about it, but I'm going to bet it. Okay, five. I feel pretty good about it. You do a three. I'll do a 10-unit bet on some. That's $1,000, right? Okay.

So a unit is like your normal. I'm just going to bet. It's my standard. And then you measure it by units. Gotcha. So yours are probably five bucks with your description. Yes. Eddie's is one.

Well, one on parlay's. I'm a $1. I'm a $1. So that's not really my unit. I think if I'm going to bet one game straight up, it's $5. Okay. Oh, unless I have money in the bank, I'll go 10. So that's two units, though, right?

So, yes. If I'm feeling good, I got to put two units on it. I feel like Casey knows a lot about gambling. Because I feel like he's just sitting over there. He's going, yeah. I feel like he's got, you know, bookie family. Well, that's just kids from New York. Forget about it.

He's in the Yankees. Did your dad gamble? Did your dad gamble? He gambled on horses, O-TB. Oh, that's old school. Hey, that's old school for sure. So did you grow up in a sports gambling house at all? Not really.

Did you ever bet the horse track a lot as a kid? Sneak in, get adults to bet the money for you, the $2, minimum bet. So I went to the track a lot as much a kid, a bunch, whatever. Yeah, we used to do that lot because Belmont, Belmont Steaks is like right around the block from us. That's right. Really? Yeah. Do you bet now?

Yeah, I do. But, yeah, I'm like a $5, $5 unit thing. I used to be a $5. Yeah. It's all relative to where you are. When were you a $5? Yeah. Well, they didn't really have sports

When it wasn't legal Like with my buddies We don't talk about that Yeah, my buddies Yeah, with my buddy Reed, what is your unit? I'll stop with my units, man Yeah

But when I did have a unit It was like 25 So that's why I stopped Reed just doesn't lose No Like he loses But he doesn't lose There's no overall loss

Everybody Lose a little bit Inside of a series of bets But like if Reed's around Like good things just happen That's because he's a good guy I guess Patient

It's weird Okay Why don't we go and do the tittle tattle? Let's go. It's time for the stupidest name ever. Following our visit to Stone Cold's Ranch, if you can get in the ring with any current or former wrestler, who would it be?

By the way, shout out Stone Cold Steve Austin. Shout out. On Monday, we put out the full hour episode. We put out the too much access, but we did the full hour interview Monday on the Bobby cast. My favorite wrestler of all time is the blonde-haired sting. So I've tried to meet Sting. No luck.

So it'd be Sting because I've never met him. That'd be cool. when I wrote my first book, I wrote inside of one chapter, like, people I looked up to when I was a kid. And in that were Sting, the wrestler, Mark Grace, the baseball player. And I think Sting just found my book or somebody told him about it. And he just signed the page it was on and mailed it to me. What? Sting?

That's cool. No note. Nothing. Hey, maybe he read it, though. I probably not. No. And I think he just signed over his name. and they just sent the book.

And I remember just getting the book in the mail at the radio station. And like, why did somebody just send me a generic book? And I was flipping through it. And he just said, I don't even know where that book is. I do have a Sting autograph, but it's Sting the singer that I bought thinking it was not wrestling. That's funny. I can see how that can happen.

So it would be Sting. Stone Cold, I was in college. So he was massive and awesome. But I didn't look up to wrestlers as much then. where it was like, this person's awesome. It was like, man, it's so cold. That's legit. That makes sense.

Yeah, it's a little older. Yeah, that checks out. So, yeah, I go sting the blonde. Not sting the dark hair and sting. I'm trying to think of the thing. What? What? The difference between sting the blonde.

Boy, you used to have blonde hair. No, no, same guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. But the version was, one was blonde. Yeah, he'd be in like really colorful pants. I'm thinking of a different sting. Does one have face paint?

Yes, both to do. That's what I'm thinking of. But the blonde sting had bright colored face paint. Was one a villain and one a good guy? Dark-haired sting was mostly a good guy. He'd flip a little bit. But he was based on the crow. Yeah, this is a sting.

Brandon Lee? Yeah. What are you looking at? This is a sting I'm thinking of with the white-faced paint and black. And he was with that the longest. But when he was blonde sting. But it's the same sting. Same guy.

Oh. Yeah. I didn't know he'd been around that long because I watched that sting as a kid. Black hair. The crow sting. Yes. The crow's starting. Yeah, Crow.

Yeah, no. It'd be sting, is my answer. Okay. Thank you for asking. All right. Do you think there's more pressure on Kirby Smart to win the big showdown this weekend now that Sabin has gone from Bama?

I did see that Bama is an underdog for the first time since, like, the Civil War at home, which is not really the Civil War, but like the 90s or something. I know it just. And Sabin was Kirby's kryptonite, but it was always like, here are all Sabin's coaches. None of them can beat him.

But Kirby did a bit. But Alabama's, the only team to defeat Georgia since 2020, and that wasn't the SEC championship. So Georgia hasn't been in a conference game. That's why that Kentucky game was so weird when Georgia was playing Kentucky. It would have been the first in-season game for them to lose. I don't think so. Mostly, I think if the college football playoff didn't exist, the answer would be yes.

But I think any pressure is met by, you can lose one or two. And if you're Georgia, you lose one or two, you get in over another team that lost one or two because you're Georgia. So I think they can lose this game and be fine. Can I second that question then? Does that make it less intriguing to you this game because of that? Than it would in years past. I don't know. I don't think it's less intriguing.

I don't like it whenever it's like, you lose. Your season's pretty much over. That sucks. What if that was what the NFL was like? That would suck. Oh, yeah. Cowboys would be out. Yeah, they'd be done.

Thank you. I'd never been on the Bengals, $100. $100. So no, I'm interested in the game. I'm super interested in the game. That's fun. But when people are like, it ruins how, like how important the game is early in the year.

I kind of hate that it all could revolve around one game in week three or four. I think it's pretty stupid, actually. So, no, I'm into it. I like it. I don't think the pressure is on them. I think if it were, though, it's met by. It's okay. We can still get to the college football playoff.

With two losses. I think they can lose this one and lose the SEC championship game and still get in. Yeah. How what else? All right. Which NFL coach do you think will get fired first? I mean, it's probably Doug Peterson, right? I mean, that's, it's slowly more, more, more, more.

I mean, their owner, Khan was like, this is the greatest Jaguar team we've ever had. Oh, it sucks. I really need Trevor Lawrence to play well. Fantasy? No, I got a bunch of rookie cards. That was a bet. He should just cut his hair, though.

Yeah. His hair is not good. Yeah, yeah, and it's bad luck now. But it's just not good. It's like stringy. It's like where I come from, that's the kind of hair that everybody had. Is it because he's getting older?

Because it used to look really good. I don't even like it really good. It's not really good to hair. He has long hair. fine, but it's just straight. Super straight. Yeah, it's too straight. You guys rather have a perm?

Yeah, either put some, put some texture into it or cut it. No wave or nothing. Yes, no wave. I agree. I've always been like, why does he cut his hair? It doesn't look good. So you're coming from a fashion point.

I just need a little texture. Something. Is that too much to ask? No, no. Just got like spaghetti noodles. Yeah, straight spaghetti noodles. I think Doug Peterson probably goes in season.

If they lose in two more games, Probably in season. You know, I was reading where, I forget which owner it was, was talking about why you don't fire a coach in season. Because when you fire a coach in season, even if the team is playing horribly, if you fire them in season and the interim coach does a pretty good job, everybody screams they want the interim coach to be the new head coach,

but it was just because a new jolt of energy and the play, where then the owner's kind of like pressured. Like Antonio Pierce has that now with the Raiders, and I don't know if he's going to be a good head coach or not, but that's what happened. they made He was awesome when he

interimed when you filled in yeah so the Kevin Stefansky thing is weird because he's been coached the year the Browns suck

but he's a really good coach and if he were gone somebody would immediately grab him yeah yeah

like he's a great coach yeah so he's the same coach that I mean flackos are quarterback

and they do they need Watson to go away I know. That whole thing is just crazy, bizarre. It's, I guess just Watson is just not into football anymore. I think there's just so much, you know, controversy going on in his life that I just feel like he's just too distracted to want to play well. I don't know.

He's also aged. He's aged too. But I don't know that that's all of it. I think you're right. I think if you had all these charges and settlements and... Like, why is he going to stand in the pocket and get crushed? But also, it's like, I don't know. You only have a couple more years to make your money.

And if you've signed the deal and it's all been guaranteed, I get it. I'm going to tell somebody to step away from $100 million, $150 million. Yeah, if they cut them, it's like the cap hit is like $1.50. Yeah, something like that. Yeah, but could it be like every money, all the money I make just goes to all these allegations? Well, I think those settlements were not disclosed. Well, then new ones came out a couple weeks ago. So I'm saying, so he makes more money.

He's like, well, it goes to that now. No, but what if he doesn't make any more money and he still got to pay? You're making that money so you can pay these. I wonder if there's like a legal loophole for the Browns where like if he gets in trouble for these new accusations, maybe they can not have to pay him. The answer is yes. That's what they're probably hoping for, right? They, from things that I've read, they're looking, they keep saying they're looking back into the contract, which means they're trying to find a way. Yeah, one line. It's just, it'll be the biggest dead cap hit ever if he's gone.

Probably the worst contract of all time. Yeah. I mean, Russell Wilson. Russ is the other second. This would be first. But his wasn't all guaranteed, I guess. No, I'm saying Russ is cap hit. Just from the way left.

Oh, that's the leader in the clubhouse right now for biggest ever. Yeah, that's true. All right, next question. All right, last one. After an 0 and 3 star are your Bengals, the most disappointing team so far. Your Bengals? They're surprising. I don't know that they're disappointing because I need them to win the Super Bowl, so I'm going to shift up.

Put a hundo on that. Talk me through the games. I think the Jaguars are probably in my mind if I'm just going from the most disappointing. It's not going to be Miami because they lost their quarterback. It's not going to be San Francisco. I'm disappointed their players aren't playing, but there's a difference in being disappointed because people are injured and disappointed

because you have your full arsenal, and they still suck. So you have McCaffrey in Germany having to go to a European Achilles specialist. Yeah. Like, that ain't good. So, I mean, that's real bad if he's having to fly to another country. We have good doctors here.

Great doctors. Exactly. The bears are interesting because it looks kind of like a train. rack over there, especially with everything we heard, like, it's going to be the easiest arrival for a rookie quarterback ever. There are still times where Caleb thinks he can outrun people that he can't. Like when these Russians are coming in and Caleb thinks from a standstill, he can get away

from them. It's a different world now. He guys are much faster. But he's going to learn. What's the Bengals? They play the Chiefs. The Chiefs, Patriots. The Patriots game was terrible.

Go ahead. Patriots. And then they just lost you. And then the commanders. Shouldn't have lost to the Patriots. The Commanders game was weird because nobody ever punted on both sides. All they did was score all that. So it's like the Bengals' offense is doing what they need to do.

The defense just didn't make a couple stops. Yeah. So in the Chiefs game, they were in it. And I'm not making excuses for the future Super Bowl champion. But that's why I'm not completely distraught about the Bengals. No division matches yet. So they have all those. They've been in it.

Yeah. So I'm going the Jags. Okay. If Miami doesn't get a quarterback. what are they going to do? Yeah. They have nothing. They lost Tua.

Now they lost, because he's out, right, this week, too? Tua? No. Skyler? I'm pretty sure, yeah. So, is Boyer the starting quarterback? Boyle?

Boyle? Whatever his name is? Hoyer and Boyle combined. Yes, thank you. Or because they did end up signing Snoop. Yeah, it says uncertain about Skylar Thompson, Boyle or Tyler Huntley. Yeah.

We'll start. Huntley. It's Huntley, right? Hunley's been there now a couple weeks. Huntley played well when Lamar was out. Yeah, he did. All right, that's Tiltow. Thank you.

All right, one of the streak. You guys want to do the parlay? Yeah. Okay. Take Arkansas plus four. Okay. Are you getting it out? Yep.

I would take Arkansas plus four. I would take Oklahoma Money Line. I should take Arkansas off this. Why? I just make two... It's two... You hit the last one. I know, it's too person.

Auburn sucked. That's why. Texas A&M, not great, not a great team, but they're fine. Pull Arkansas out of this. Okay. Okay. Oklahoma is going to beat Auburn. I can't believe Oklahoma is only a two-point favorite, even though they're at Auburn.

Because we played at Auburn. Auburn sucks. Hugh Freeze is a dirtbag, too, by the way. He is. He went on and was like, we played them nine more times. We beat him nine times. Who says that after a loss, even if you feel that way. That's loser talk.

You want the money line in Oklahoma? I take Oklahoma Money Line. I take Kansas State money line over Oklahoma State. And I would take Georgia Money Line at Bama. Okay, just past that one. We'll go back. Georgia Money Line? Yeah, I'm going to do all three money lines.

I like it. Okay. I'm not going to say anything. Looking for that Oklahoma game. The Oklahoma State game. They're at Kansas State, Oklahoma State, at Kansas State. They're at Kansas State. Okay.

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He's from Arkansas. Like coached Arkansas stay, went to high school in Arkansas, like big Arkansas. Seems like a cool dude. Yeah. We liked him, huh? Yeah, I liked him a lot. Yeah, so here he is. Coach Drinkwitz.

Let me ask about bye weeks, because I know why players like bi weeks. Why do coaches like biweeks? What will you do differently? First off, you get to just take a deep breath. You don't have this constant churning in your stomach like, you know, you got something on Saturday. It's going to determine the happiness of about six and a half million people, including yourself. And you get to kind of be normal. Like my daughter had a volleyball game last night.

And so I got to go pick her up from the game when the bus got back. I'll get to go watch my daughter's tee ball games on Thursday night. Saturday, another daughter's got two volleyball games in the morning. So you just kind of get a sense of normalcy. And it's just a little bit of a time to take a deep breath. I think from a football standpoint, you can actually work on things. You know, it's easy to say, hey, we got to get a. better this week. But when there's a game coming and you have all this game planning stuff you

have to do, there's not a whole lot of just moments where you can focus on fundamentals and improvement because you've got to get the schemes in for that week. You've got to get the preparation in. But in a bi-week, again, you don't have an opponent on Saturday, that opponent's yourself. So there's really more time to focus on, hey, this 20 minutes of practice is going to be specific to getting better, five minutes on third downs, five minutes on team run, five minutes on motion adjustments. So that's probably the best thing about it. Do you double scout the teams? Like, will you spend a good two weeks? I know you guys have A&M coming up? Do you like coming off a biweek because you have put in extra time? Or is it just still, are you spending more time doing fundamentals and you're doing the same amount for every team? It's really both. So like today is Tuesday and so we will work just on ourself. Tomorrow we'll spend some time on a future opponent that's not named Texas A&M who's in this next four-week segment. And then on Thursday, we'll turn our full attention to Texas A&M.

So we will get maybe a day and a half ahead of our opponent, you know, but we will also get a day ahead on another opponent, too. I don't like to practice too much for one team. It's like you ever sharpen a pencil too much and that edge is a little too fine and you push it on the paper and it breaks. I think you can get that way with practice for one opponent. I think you can overdo it, so to speak, because no matter how much you're going to practice, they're going to have a new wrinkle. And so you've got to be prepared to adjust. Are you the bell of the ball in Columbia?

Can you grocery shop? Yeah, I can grocery shop. I do find it funny. The other day, I was driving my car at a stoplight, and there were two college-age students who had their phone up next to the window taking a picture. And I just looked at it and it was like, if you'll just tell me, I'll smile for the picture. I'm always worried that they're going to catch me picking my nose or something while I'm driving or singing to myself in the car.

But I'll say this. I don't let it affect me one way or the other. I just know I've got to wear a hat when I go to the grocery store instead of going all wild and free. Talk about Brady Cook for a second because he's been on. Yeah. I mean, I don't think there's a, you know, I've been around some really big, quarterbacks have been privileged to coach several that have gone on to play in the NFL, but Brady might be my favorite.

Just from the standpoint of he's got everything, he's got leadership, he's got accountability, he's got toughness, he's got playmaking ability. But there's something about a kid who just works really hard to be the best that he can be, and that's really Brady Cook. I mean, he works, nothing was given to him. He's not just the most gifted player. he's really had to work to become who he is. And I mean, I hate to say it like this,

but he's like the American dream, man. He's like Rocky Balboa to an extent where, you know, he just keeps betting on himself and keeps delivering. I had a call or call the show, and they were doing a paper on grit. And she was like, she got through the phone lines and she said, hey, would you talk about what you think grit is? And I think my career has been mostly based off perseverance,

right? Like not doing a very good job and getting up again and doing it a little better and a little better because I've naturally not been that gifted at anything. How would you define grit? And who are a couple of your grittiest players? Man, I love that you ask this question. Grit's the stubborn refusal to quit. I mean, that's all it is. It's just you refuse to give up and it's passion plus perseverance over time. Like, what are you willing to endure to accomplish what you want to accomplish. I think Brady obviously is a great example of grit. I think Cody Schroeder last year was an extreme example of grid. I think when you look at this year's running backs, Marcus Carol, Nate Noel, those two guys are really gritty players who've had to overcome a lot and bet on

themselves, refused to give in to the outside noise to achieve what they want to achieve. I think Johnny Walker, defensive end for me, came in at 197 pounds, had four wisdom teeth taken out within the first week of him being here. And now he weighs 256 pounds, was the MVP of the Cotton Bowl. It took him four years to really earn significant playing time. But instead of pouting, instead of trying to go into a different situation, he just said, I'm going to sustain excellence every day. And that's really what you have to do.

You know, we have, we had a group of Navy SEALs come in and they said, winning is reserved for those who are willing to pay the price. and that's kind of our thought process this year, like what price are we willing to pay to win? And you've got to be willing to outlast people. You've got to be willing to sustain it even when it's not going your way. Coach, at the end of the game, you know,

I see the two coaches go and they meet each other. What can you possibly tell each other, especially if you've lost the game? Like, what's that conversation like? Or are you thinking, like, what am I going to tell them as I walk up there? You know, I've had some awkward kind of, conversations with head coaches across the deal.

Honestly, you know, when you're the winning coach and you're going across the field to the guy who's lost, you realize and know how much pain they're in right then. And really all I'm trying to do is give them some sort of like comfort or something because, man, the hardest thing to do is to swallow all your emotions and then go in there and address your team. So that's really what I'm doing. Whenever they're saying something to me after they're whipping my butt, it's usually as quick as I can just shake their hand and try to gather my thoughts and emotions before I address the team.

But, you know, I have such a tremendous amount of respect for the head coaches in this league. You know, it's a fraternity of really good men. And, you know, we don't always get along. We don't always agree with each other. But there is a level of respect there. And so, you know, when you get a chance to, visit with another SEC head coach, you always treat it with a little bit of respect. I think a bit the pregame would be awkward if you're expected to talk and you don't really like

them or know them. Like we have guests in studio and there are, you know, celebrities that either I don't like or I don't know. We have to like do small talk for like six minutes before this. And that's torture for me. And I got to imagine just the human nature of it. That's probably the same situation. So the pre more than the post, as opposed you can get out. over. Do you have to go talk to the other head coach before the game? Well, apparently you don't have to. Ed Orgeron didn't come shake my hand before the first time we played them.

And that was really the first time and the only time I've ever had that happen. So I guess you don't have to. But you're supposed to. Like that's a thing you're supposed to. Yeah. I mean, it's kind of a sportsmanship deal. I tell you when I come into that the most is when you have to do the Friday pregame media. Because there are some media that you know have been taking shots at you.

Or, you know, shots. your team and then you got to go sit there and act like you're going to be buddy buddy and give them all the information that they want to ask so that that one's always the one that you're like yeah yeah what if it's like i'll use me for an example i've had i and i make no there's everybody knows i'm a massive arkansas supporter and booster and um involved in every way possible and so i've been a little underwhelmed at our coaching decisions especially the Oklahoma State game, the UAB game. And I have been the Sunshine Pumper for years.

I believe, I believe. And this is the first year that I've publicly been like, man, I don't feel like our coaching really got us to a good place to win. And I've said that, but I've been like loyal, loyal, loyal. If you were to see somebody like me that said that, like, would you know? Do you think Pittman knows that I've said such things? He's probably cognizantly aware because of the influence that you have over the state of Arkansas and the fans.

And I would just say this, man, Bobby. Look, it's natural to say, yeah, there's, like for me, I screwed up right before half. I went forward on fourth down, should have never done that end up costing three points. I think if the coaches make the attempt to acknowledge the accountability, like, hey, I screwed it up. I think that should with the fans make sure that they understand, like, okay, he gets it. Now, if they don't get it, if they're being stubborn about it, if they're saying, like, they got their head in the sky, then obviously people can say what they want. But I think Coach Pittman is doing a really good job

in a very difficult circumstance. And I think obviously that Travis Williams at defensive coordinator, I was a GA with him at Auburn. I think he's a tremendous coach. Obviously, Coach Petrano's a really good football coach and they did an excellent job in the portal. So they're going to be a really good football team this year.

I'll just say this. As fans, it's easy to criticize and critique, but everybody's growing into being the best version of themselves as a team. I think you got to give them grace and positive momentum as long as possible. And when it comes to the point that you can't, you can't. Everybody individually has to make that own decision. But whatever happened last year or the previous year or the previous momentum, man, that's totally different.

It's about this year's team and this year's journey and the opportunity for them to develop their own identity. And, you know, I saw that Oklahoma State game. There obviously were some things that people could be critical of. But the thing that I saw was a team that kept competing, the team that made mistakes but found a way to be in the game for all the way up until, you know, until the last play. And that's the sign of a team that's getting better. So I would just encourage you, man, they ain't that far off.

They're a tough, gritty team, which is why they were able to beat Auburn. You know, I don't know if they'd do it nine out of nine times or anything. I don't really have an opinion on that. But I thought they were a really good football team in that game. I watched that game yesterday, actually. I'm being guilty now. I've just been guilty. I've been guilty.

That's okay. What's it like not being under the radar? Because now you guys have an expectation to win. You have that big number by your name and people are watching. I think it's been an adjustment for us. I think obviously that's something that we needed to address, specifically after the game Saturday. I just felt like there was hesitation both within the coaches and the players playing afraid, afraid to fail, afraid to lose. And you're never going to be the best version of yourself.

being afraid to fail. You got to go for it. You got to cut it loose. And whatever happens happens, you've got to believe in yourself that you're tough enough to handle whatever adversity or success is going to come your way. But you can't try to guide the ball into the strike zone. You can't try to guide the ball into a player. You've got to just go cut it loose. And so whether it's me, whether it's coaches, whether it's players, we got to not worry about the rankings. They are what they are. We got to just go out there and do the very best that we can. Final three questions. Are you superstitious?

If so, what do you do? What are they? I like the answer. I'm not superstitious, but I'm a little stitious. So I absolutely keep the same pregame meal routine. I absolutely keep the same Friday clothing routine. We have a thing called boots Thursday where we wear boots and jeans on Thursdays. Very much adamant that I got to do that.

So I'm not, like I said, not super, but there's a little bit of the right combo goes along the way. Coach, you said that you watched the Arkansas game two days after you guys played. What is your routine? Are there like five games that you would have watched on Saturday but you were playing and then you'll watch them later?

Is that what you do? Yeah. I like to watch future opponents. I like to watch high output offenses. I like to watch defenses. I get a cut up of all the explosive passes. from the week before in college football. So you just try to stay on top of trends

or you try to stay on top of issues. You know, just listening to all the stuff, you know, Auburn talked about their ability to really move the ball but had a lot of turnover. So I wanted just to see if that was my sense of it from watching it and wanted to see what T. Will was doing defensively because we're going to play them later. But then I wanted to see, you know,

I think Coach Petrino is one of the best offensive minds of college football to just see what he's doing and have seen the way he's developing a game playing around his quarterback to see if there's just anything that we could borrow. You know, football is a game of borrowing other people's ideas to see if they can apply to what you do. And so, you know, I do that with a lot of different people, but it gives you kind of a trend of what's going on in the game. Final question, coach, if you're struggling, emotionally, mentally, who professionally can you call? Who's your mentor?

Well, you know, there's a couple of different people that I can reach out to. From a spiritual standpoint, there's a guy in Boone, North Carolina named Dr. Dick Furman, who's been a really a person of great character and integrity for me for the last six years. And the highest of highs I can expect to get a text from me that says, TYL, which stands for Thank You, Lord, or the lowest of lows I can get a text from him that's going to say, thank you, Lord, because you just realize that you're blessed to get the opportunity to do this, and you realize that your future is in his hands and not to get caught up in the anxiety of it. From a coaching standpoint, you know, Coach Malazon's obviously a guy that I can reach out to that we exchange ideas back and forth from.

So there's just different people like that. But in the – but in those two situations, those would probably be the first two phone calls. You know, sometimes I'm not quite as quick to call Gus because – you know, he's still the guy that I GA8 for it. So he'll tell me that's pretty dumb. What is your problem here, man? But that's good, too. Keep me humble.

Coach, congratulations on, and whatever happens this year, happens this year, but really fundamentally turning the image of a program around. You've done a fantastic job. I'm a big fan. And good luck the rest of the year except for one game. I'm really rooting for you. Yeah, hey, I appreciate it. I appreciate all the opportunity to be on this show,

because being from the state of Arkansas and watching your success has been really awesome and so to have an opportunity to be on the show. You know, and if y'all could ever figure out that 50-50 raffle deal on tour. Don't start us, code. Don't even get us going. We need another half hour, coach.

All right, well, let him go. Coach, good to see you. M-I-Z. All right. This is my chat with Texas A&M head coach, Mike Elko, a coach in his first year as head coach of the Aggies, spent two years at Duke, turned that program around.

Aggies are 3-1. In the season, they face off. against my Arkansas team this week. But really happy Coach Elko decided to come on. Here he is. Coach, Mike Elko from Texas A&M. Hey, coach. Hey, how are you?

Pretty good. Hey, do you often wear like a jersey? Because that's how I'd coach. He's got like a jersey shirt right now. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a jersey shirt with a hood. Yeah, that's my, that's kind of what I go with most of the days in the office. I have a question about when you went back to A&M.

Like, did you already know what part of town you wanted to live? Because we live in a like a industry, sports and also like, media where there's a bit of moving. And I think there was an advantage to having lived in a college station before. Did you know the part of town you wanted to go back to? Yeah, it certainly made it a lot easier. It was also nice the first day I came to the office because I actually knew where I was going.

That's the first time I've been through that in my life, too. Did you have a bunch of A&M stuff that you hadn't unloaded yet as far as that close? No, you know, so I've never doubled back before. So we've always had this like method of taking everything we have and given it away on our way out of town. And so I kind of maybe regret a little bit of some of the stuff I gave away. I had some good stuff.

I wish I had back. Whenever you're making that decision because you took that Duke program and turned it into a real player and it's something to be proud of. I mean, I think of Duke is a basketball school, but I didn't think of them just as a basketball school, you know, in your years there. How hard was that decision to leave a program that you had built at a Power 4, Power 5 conference at the time, and go back to A&M? Yeah, I think it's really difficult.

And I think when you get to the top of it all, it's even harder because your decision affects the lives of so many people. And so you got your own family, which obviously matters a lot. But then you've got the families of everybody who came to Duke to work with you and for you. You got the players. And so it's not just, you know, surface level. Hey, do I want to be the coach at A&M or do I want to be the coach at Duke? There's a lot more that goes into it for sure. Whenever you left, was it, you know, possibly I like to come back here one day?

Or do you not think about that because who knows how anybody's contract is going to shake out anywhere? Yeah, you don't really think about it from that perspective. You know, you just, honestly, anything I've ever done my whole career, you just, you kind of go to work, you do the best job you can. You don't really think about what's coming next. And as opportunities come along and present themselves, you just kind of go through it and figure out what you think is right for you and your family. And, you know, try to stay true to that as best you can in this wild profession that we're in. Who's been the craziest freak athlete that you've coached where I know you're looking at me now You're like you're a freak athlete Bobby because I'm about to go work out about to get in the gym coach right now

And so who has it been that you have had where you've been like man this guy is a monster I think if you go back in the past it's it's probably the Marvin leow who plays for the Pittsburgh Steelers right now He was we signed him here when I was the defensive coordinator who's the number three ranked player in the country and He had some crazy things he could do you know I jump in and flip up up off the ground and he was a 6-5, 295-pound kid. And so he was freaky athletic. Our defensive end right now,

Samar Stewart, is pretty freaky athletic when it comes to those types of things, too. He's a good first off-the-buss guy and he plays like it. My high school coach, because I was only a moderate to average mid-level high school athlete, he would say, man, you get the most out of your athletic ability. And in a way, that was a bit of an insult, meaning I wasn't that athletic, but I was a pretty smart player. But he'd be like, you really get the most out of that. What player did you have where that was, like they were a good athlete,

but they really utilized every part of their brain and studying and doing everything right and got the most out of it? Yeah, you know, I had a safety when I was the defensive coordinator at Wake Forest, a kid named Ryan Jambeon. And he wound up starting probably 46, 47 games in the ACC. He started all four years as an ACC safety and never really got a chance to go on to the next level because I think he maybe didn't have that height weight speed that the NFL requires or was looking for. But he had a phenomenal college career at a really

high level maximizing. I think everything he could possibly do. How do you feel about Texas being in the same conference with you again, Coach? I think it's great. I think you have this huge rivalry in state. I think you've got two schools that are so close and are obviously the huge programs in the best football state in the country. I think bringing them in and playing them again at the end of the year and having it mean an awful lot. I think those things are really good. I think that's what, you know, we got to make sure we don't lose that part of college football. I think you have, in this day and age of conference realignment and people shifting all over the place, there's still something really cool about two teams that really don't like each other playing a meaningful game at the end of the season.

Coach, I hate Texas. And I'm, I'm going to tell you, I hate their guts. I hate everything about them. I hate their color. And I lived in Austin for 12 years and love individual people from Austin and that work at the University of Texas. But I'm from Arkansas. And I hate the University of Texas. It kind of comes with the territory when you're in Arkansas.

Yes, sir. You don't have tremendous affinity for Texas, Oklahoma, and to some degree, Texas A&M too, I would imagine. We don't mind Texas A&M. I mean, we hate Texas. And my wife's from Oklahoma, and I've become very close with some Oklahomans. But it's like, and I say it when we're on the air all over Texas, including in Austin, where a show does very well. And that orange just makes me vomit.

Now, do you hate it more once you come? into Texas A&M or did you already go? That's a pretty ugly color. So it's really interesting. So I was at Bowling Green for five years in my life. And when I was there, their colors are orange and brown. And our head coach was adamant that anytime we went out to clinics or meet people or anything that we should wear orange because it would make us stand out.

And so I think we loved and hated the orange all at the same time. And we were together at Bowling Green. And so I have that in my past. And then obviously you come here. and yeah, arms just doesn't exist in college station, Texas. And so it kind of turns up the heat on it a little bit. What's a rivalry game feel like in the locker room? Because a lot of these kids, maybe they didn't grow up with as an A&M superfan

their whole life hating Texas. But is it palpable? Like, is there an understanding once they get there? They're supposed to not like Texas or not like Oklahoma? Yeah, you know, I really experienced it for the first time, the last two years at Duke with the Duke North Carolina game. And before that, I probably would have talked. told you, you know, I don't know how different they really are, games or games, but going through

that, uh, Duke, North Carolina, like it was different. Like that week was different. Uh, the way the players responded, acted, the feel in, in pregame meetings, meals, all of that stuff. Uh, there's just a different energy about the room. And then, uh, you know, you watch the game unfold and and everyone plays their best, you know, across the board. And you just see a whole bunch of kids making, uh, a whole bunch of plays, right? And obviously that, that, that rival, centered around basketball, but certainly kind of expands to every other sport that gets played. And now you're going to take that same type of hatred between schools in a rivalry that's centered around football that hasn't been played in, you know, 12, 13 years, bring it back Thanksgiving weekend

and, you know, hopefully have two really highly ranked teams playing each other. And it'll be weird. It'll be something different, that's for sure. Do you guys have MRI machines there on campus? Yeah, we do. We're actually fortunate. Our university has them. So we're able to utilize what we have at the university

and to get our kids in on a drop of a dime whenever we need to. Yeah, I got to get one tomorrow, but it took like a week to get in. I just wonder if I was going to school there. I got an ankle issue, coach, you know, athlete, you know what it's like. And so I get this ankle issue. I'll tell you what, after you can put me on your radio show like this. We'll let you come use ours whenever you need it. Yes, there you go.

I know. It's a long trip. Coach Eddie has a question for you. Hey, coach. What do you know about the 12th man? Because I went to school at Sam Houston State, right down the road from college station. and I was there at college station one night, and a drunk guy was telling me the story,

the legend of the 12th man, where back in the day, this, you know, the team didn't have enough players to play, so they pulled a guy out of the crowd. He said, I'll play, and they played, they won the game.

Is that even true? Yeah, no, that's the real story. Yeah, it was back in the 1930s, and the team had gotten riddled with injuries, and, you know, someone from the student body stepped up to volunteer and be ready. And ever since that, they stand for the,

entire game at every football game, the entire student section. And it's kind of an homage to that man being ready at all times. And so now the idea is that the student section is the 12th man for our football team. And they stand ready at all times to help in whatever way they can. Now, in modern football, we have 140 players on our roster. Right, right. Meeting one of the students to hop down out of the stands for us. But now it's a really cool thing.

It's a huge piece of Texas A&M. It's a huge piece of our history and what we stand for. And if you haven't been to a game in Kyle Field or got to see it firsthand, it really is unique. It's really special. Coach, we got to talk about this Arkansas series in Dallas. I don't like it. It does not feel I like Jerry Jones, like the Cowboys, the stadiums. It's pretty.

But it does not feel unique or college football. Like, what are we going to do to change this? I think this is the last year. So I think maybe you just saying it right there. We can say that's the reason why it changed. I think this is, I think we're in Fayetteville next year, and I think we're back to playing on home campuses. And I was actually, during the COVID year,

we weren't able to play in Cowboy Stadium. And so they actually came to Kyle Field that year. So I was part of one of those games. But no, I think it's interesting. I think we've always kind of joked as coaches, like the reason why we're playing this game is because no one could figure out who's going to tell Jerry we're not playing there. And kind of keep doing it because that's just kind of how things

go. But no, I think it's both ways. I think obviously there's something about playing a college game on a college campus in a college stadium. Those environments are really special for your whole community, not just for the football team, but just everybody who comes out to a college town for a Saturday in the fall. But at the same time, there's so many Texas kids involved in this game. And so many of them either grew up loving or hate in the Cowboys because you have to do one or the other. You can't just kind of be neutral on the Cowboys. And so, you know, I do think there was always, it was a cool idea. There's a lot of excitement when you play that game in Cowboy Stadium. It's a great field.

It's a great venue. And it is a little bit unique. It feels almost like one of those conference championship games where you have the split stands. And every time there's a good play made, no matter who makes it, you know, the crowd kind of erupts. And so there is a little bit of unique, cool part of it. But getting back on college campuses soon, I think we'll be good, too. Yeah, I just want a voice. I don't want to renewed.

I don't want to renew for any reason whatsoever. Also, because you guys have just been whooping Arkansas. I don't know. It's a bad run. It's been a bad run. So when it comes up again, I'll put Jerry in touch with you. Yeah, he has my number. You guys are both Arkansas guys.

You're both big-time people. We'll let you guys kind of get together and you guys can figure out what the right thing to do is. Don't need to figure it. Already got it. I hate it. It's the worst. I was thinking, coach, you said, you made a little comment that a little bit. I'm not supposed to like Texas A&M.

And I'm just thinking, I have no issue. Texas A&M. And maybe because... I appreciate that. Yeah, I actually, and I was thinking about this, I think I like Texas A&M because they hate Texas. It's how it's your...

Yeah, it's your enemy's your friend. And I think that's why I just had a therapy breakthrough right now as to why I've always had like this positive feeling about Texas A&M. And it's because you guys also want to beat the crap out of Texas. So it took you to get me there today, coach. There you go. I appreciate it. So we've closed the loop in your life.

We have for a while. We have. It's a good therapy session. Final three questions. Now, do you script any offensive plays going into any game? Do I personally? No, our offensive coordinator does. I probably get, if he scripts 15 to 20,

I probably get one to two that are kind of my preference or liking, and I get to review it. That's probably the role that I play. But yeah, I think going into games, you want to have a plan of how you want it to go. You want your kids to feel real comfortable with, But, you know, the first part of the game is going to go like there's so many emotions that go into the beginning of a college football game that the more comfortable they are with what's going to happen, I think the better they perform. So what do you think the first few plays will be tomorrow, Saturday.

I wonder why you want to know. Okay, here's what we're going to do. The first one is going to be a double reverse flea flicker pass. Let me text the radio guy running down the sideline. So make sure you call Sam and let him know the secret scoop. That's played number one in the game Saturday. All right, got that. What about defensively?

And again, this isn't about any game specific, but there's no way to script defensive plays because you don't know what the offense is going to come out with. How do you get your defensive players ready for what they're probably about to see when you don't really know? Yeah, probably a little bit more of a challenge. I think, you know, the best thing you can do is try to be a predictor of how an offense is going to try to attack you

or what they're going to try to do. And, you know, over my, I think I spent 16 years as a defensive coordinator, and you try to get it right more than you get it wrong, but it's not easy to try to be, you know, guessing what someone's going to do against you. So you do the best you can to get your kids ready for everything. And then it's similar. You're just trying to get them into comfortable,

comfortable situations that they know how to manage until you get a better feel or beat on what exactly is going to happen as the game plays out. Coach, did you go to the George Strait concert? I did. I did. My wife and I went. We got a box.

It was, you know, my daughter, was with us. So my daughter was there for Parker McCollum, because she's a huge Parker McCollum fan. So that was an added plus. And then we got to see George that night. And what a scene that was in Kyle. Coach, if you ever need tickets to anything, I'm your boy now. Like, we're, we're, bros. Just let me know. You think coach has a hard time getting tickets? No, but you never know if it's like his daughter needs tickets to go to something. And he's like, I don't want to make the call. It's true. Like, I'm here as a resource to you, coach. You're my second favorite team playing this weekend. Well, so I will take that. And I will certainly take you up on that too, because you

never, you can never have too many people willing to help you get tickets to a venue. And so I'll, I'll flip it around and say, you guys ever want to come down to College Station for a game? I'm your guy. I can't help you in many other places, but I could help you down here. I appreciate that, coach. Last question. As far as this season goes, I don't know, what, what do you tell your guys the goal is, obviously it's to win the conference, but do you talk college football playoff? Do you talk SC championship? Do you talk national championship. No, honestly, this is going to sound like such coach speak, and I hate that I'm even saying this, but it's really the truth. Like, you just talk about the process of getting better

every day, and it really is. And, you know, kids nowadays, between social media and fans and message boards and all of the white noise that's really out there, they can get focused on so many things that aren't real and can drive them up and down and every which way, but sideways. And so you really just try to give them something really palpable that they can focus on every day. We talk about things we need to improve on daily. We kind of make individual goals, team goals, and just try to keep it really, really narrow and try to stay focused on what's right in front of your face. Because in this day and age, you start picking your head up, looking around and reading things or trying to talk about big picture things like that, and you can drive yourself crazy. So I'm not going to

ask this question. There's no need to answer it. But what I'm not going to ask as a favor is anything NIL related. Look at me, gifting coach, a non-question. He thanks you. Yeah, because I know, coach, that's the last thing you want to talk about today with all that crap going on. Oh, my gosh. No, I will say this, though, because I do want to get my feelings on the record on this, because I truly

believe this. NIL is a good thing for the players. It really is. I think when you talk about how much money and how much revenue there is in major college football nowadays, it certainly is right that the players are getting a piece of it. Like a lot of my colleagues,

just the system. Like it's just the fact that there isn't a system in place to manage it with any type of ability whatsoever for the players or for the coaches is just crazy. And that part of it is what needs fixed as fast as humanly possible. I didn't even ask the question. That's perfect. Got a perfect answer. As we conclude this interview, I'd like to say, thanks for your time. We had drink on a little bit ago from Missouri. And when they finished their interviews, they go, M-I-Z. And it scared me because I didn't know what he was doing. And Sam, Coach Pittman will go, you know, Wu Pig or everyone has, do you say Gagome at the end of every interview

or do you do one of those at all? Yeah, so I try not to be as corny as Coach Tringalich, but we do go, who's a really good friend of mine too, so I hope that gets on air in the years. Yeah, well. But no, we're a thanks and gig them crowd, but I try not to overdo those types of things.

I think when they're natural, you grow them out there and when they're unnatural, you know, you just kind of let them go. Then I'll say, this is how it'll play out. I'll say, Coach, love having you. Good luck every rest of the game except this weekend. And then you say your thing and let's see how it feels. All right, here we go.

Coach, yeah, I really appreciate the time. I like A&M. Good luck every game except this weekend. Thanks and gig them. I see, I felt good. That felt good. That was not corny at all. All right, coach.

I hope everybody's healthy. Have a great weekend. And hopefully I'll see you again soon. Yeah, for sure. Thanks for having me out of guys. A win is a win. A win. A win is a win.

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podcasts. We think Travis Kelsey sucks because he party with Taylor Swift all year? Yes. Yes, it's got to be. What else? Age. He's getting older. Yeah. Out of shape.

Age, yeah. He is getting older. But I mean, the distractions, man. The distractions. I hate to jump on the bandwagon and be like, I agree. But I think about me, if I'm distracted and doing eight things, there's no way I can pour in the normal effort into the main thing if I'm doing all the eight things. And don't underestimate the power of love.

I will not. When you're in love, man, like, you don't even know what's going on. Going on around you. Travis Kelsey has faced criticism for a slow start. This football season is the Kansas City Chiefs, although they are with 3 and O. I was going to say they're 3 and O, and he's probably just saving himself for the postseason. Oh, right? Is that it?

I hear you. And I think when you get older, you do that. But I do think you can travel all around Europe all offseason. And you drink. And your girlfriend's Taylor Swift. Things are probably treated differently. He's been drinking for a while, though. Yeah, but not like this.

Traveling and drinking. I mean, you're not working out as hard. Well, you know what? We don't know what he's been doing before Taylor. Like, we didn't, there weren't cameras everywhere for him. But he wasn't all over Europe. He's got a hundred million dollar podcasts now. NFL analyst Rodney Harrison said Kelsey's performance is affected by distractions from his off-filled

commitments like acting and podcasting. Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes defended Kelsey, which you should have. I think he's focused on winning. Is he acting? Yeah, he's in the Adam Sandler. I think commercials. Happy Gilmore too. Oh, commercials, I feel like.

Commercials. I think he's in another movie to, what is that? Listen, you date. He's a host of a game show. Oh, wow. You date Taylor Swift. You get a bunch of opportunities you don't get unless you date Taylor Swift. I'm sure it's the greatest thing to ever happen to him, aside from the love.

Travis Kelsey wants to be famous. He's extremely thirsty for fame. Take that from somebody who also is. But I'm not saying that Taylor Swifting isn't love. It probably is. I don't believe it's fake. But I'm saying that's the reward you get for that. And that's what he is reaping it.

Because nobody really cared. What they cared about is Patrick Mahomes is tied in, Travis Kelsey. who also is really good, but it wasn't like he's at, now he's Taylor's T's boyfriend, so you get a lot of opportunities. They're gonna get married? Probably.

Wow, that's crazy. Out of all the dudes she's dated, she's getting, like... The one that you would never match with her. I know. Good for them, though. But I do feel like if something's different that has been consistent

over the past amount of years, which his... He's not hurt, which last year he was hurt. The Lions game, game one, he didn't even play. But he's not hurt. But if he's not hurt, but if he's not hurt. something's different, that means something's different. So what's been different?

Well, he's dating Taylor Swift, the most famous person in the world, and he's been all over Europe on tour. Good for him. And the work. I mean, yeah, let's not forget. That's a lot of work. TV shows, hosting, yeah. Todd McShay, thanks Travis Kelsey's having a rough offseason because he's

partying with Taylor Swift. I listened to that. Added to on Rosilla? Yeah, yeah, it was so good. Yeah. It was funny. It's funny. Okay. Let's look to a couple of big games real quick NCAA preview Miami, almost a 20-point favorite of a vision attack, they're going to kill them, who cares? Ole Miss is going to kill Kentucky, who cares?

Ole Miss is undefeated, right? Yeah, they're really good. They're killing people. Yeah, they haven't played anybody, though. Yeah, but so has a lot of other teams, but they're not killing. I mean, they're covering every spread. That's the only reason I know. Yeah.

Ole Miss has made me some units. They're killing people. But they haven't played anybody yet. Like when I look at the parlay of the weekend, I always hit Ole Miss on there. I put Ole Miss on there, and they cover the mad by so much. That's famous last words. Everybody, do not bet on Ole Miss. You just heard it here.

I'm saying since. Kansas State, Oklahoma State, Notre Dame and Louisville. I can't believe Louisville is 15. Yeah, quietly, huh? If you had asked, just asked, hey, is Louisville ranked? I don't know. I don't think so. Texas is a 40-point favorite of Mississippi State.

That's wild. It's a 40-point favorite. I did watch Mississippi State. Who did they play last week? They're not good at all. They're terrible. Ohio State is a 24-point favorite at Michigan State. Georgia and Alabama, Georgia two-point favorite. Penn State, 19-point favorite over Illinois. The hilarious thing is Coach Beelma. He was like, white out. Like he didn't know? No, like they're doing a whiteout. He's like, I don't know.

I don't care. I don't care. What's that? What does that do for me? Yeah, exactly. He was going to come on this week. I had to cancel, though. I had a dog issue. But Coach Bealma was going to come on. It sucks. I couldn't get him on. Utah, 11-point favorite over Arizona. At Utah, is that Zach Wilson's little brother?

I don't know. Who was playing quarterback after Cam Rising went down? No clue. Yeah, Isaac Wilson. Yeah, I thought so. He played really well. I'm thinking Zach Wilson's brother. Zach Wilson, not with the Broncos, but most famous from the Jets.

Yes. I have a Zach Wilson signed Jets helmet behind me. Look at that. He's like, I don't care. I don't know for that for how much. You could sell that for how much. And then Oregon is almost a 25-point favorite at UCLA. So do we believe in Oregon again?

Yep. Mainly because I got. Had a couple little hiccops that didn't lose. 25 units on it. Or five units on it. 25. Sorry, I got five units on it. They have $25.

Now you're getting unit and dollar myself. Units are confusing, man. Let's look at the NFL real quick. Falcons and Saints. That's an interesting game. That's a good game. I would have never thought that would be a good game. I never thought I would even care about that game.

That's an interesting game. Who are you picking in that one? I'm going to go with the Saints. I think the Saints are rolling, dude. And even when they lost to the Eagles last week, the Eagles had to, like, pull one out of their butthole for that one. Basically. Rams at Bears.

The Rams are, they have a partial team right now. They have receivers? They have a partial team. No, they don't have their one or two. It's tough. And the, I don't know. Are the Bears getting better? I don't know.

I don't either. It's hard to watch. They're in Chicago. so they're a two and a half point favorite. Vikings, the Packers, Packers. Is Jordan Love coming back this week? I think he's hopeful to. Yeah.

I don't know. I hadn't heard the latest. Not sure, but it's trending. Packers are a two and a half point favorite over the three and O Vikings. They are in Green Bay. Wow. That tells me love's playing. It tells me they think Love's probably playing, yeah.

Because they're not going to do that with Malik Willis. No. Stedler's two-point favorites over the Colts. Jets and Broncos, the Jets over a touchdown favorite. That's good. Sounds like a good game, Casey. Let's go. I'm ready.

Eagles and bucks, Eagles favorite, Bengals at Panthers. I don't know. Andy Dalton could be a good. Adolton coming back. Andy Dolk. I want the Bengals and women.

Redemption tour. Yeah, man. Jags of Texans. Texas need that win. Jags need that win. If the Jags lose, it's an I-quit match. No way.

Yeah. They go on four, they're done. Peterson may get fired. Yeah. Oh, that's tough. Commanders of Cardinals, Patriots at 49ers.

The Niners are still a 10-point favorite, even though. Wow, they have no one. They're playing seven-man football. I know. Is Kettle still out? Yeah, I think so. Browns and Raiders, the game that nobody cares about.

The Raiders are a point and a half favorite. Chiefs at Chargers. Chargers don't have a quarterback, right? Don't know if he's playing out. Yeah. Oh, yeah, he suspended a game for, like, being an idiot. Breaking the rules. What do you do?

He got suspended for, like, constant neglect of safety rules or whatever it was. Oh, really? Something like that. Hard hits and stuff. And then Bill's a lot. Ravens, I think that's a Monday night game. That's cool. That's good one. That's good. Yeah, that'd be good. Ravens kind of need that though still, so they don't go one and three. But the bills, probably... You think the bills are the best team in football

right now? I'd still take the Chiefs because they're the Chiefs, but if it were just, if I didn't know anything about the histories of any team, I'd probably pick the bills. Even that Bill's Cardinals game that was week one and you're like, dang, the Cardinals are, but the bills were just scoring. Now you realize the Cardinals actually aren't that bad. They're sneaky good. Yeah, so that's like an addition to the strength of schedule for the bills now where it was, do the bills sell? Do the bills sell? because the Cardinals are scoring so much. Yeah.

But now Kyler's back and Harrison's actually really good. All right, cool. I think that's it. Thank you, everybody. Thanks to the coaches for coming on today. Any, Eddie? A buddy of mine asked me like, hey, you grill out when the Cowboys play? And I said, no, because I don't want to be doing it.

So, like, what if, like, the meat still needs to be done and the game starting? I don't like that. So we just order pizza. So I want to ask you guys, like, what's your ideal game day to watch your team? Like, no one at the house. Oh, I hate people. I don't want anybody around. me. I don't want to be text me. No. I don't want to be around me. I pace. I do pushups during

commercials. Oh, is that just for fitness or because? Because I'm going to have to do something to remove the nervous energy. So what I will do is add fitness to that and I'll do pushups. That's cool. I used to keep weights and do curls and shoulder lifts. Hang, dude. Dude, I just have, it's a nightmare. By the end of the game, you're just jacked. There's a good pump. There's a good pump. That's what I do. And I usually eat before. unless it's a 10 o'clock game. And then I'll probably wait until after. That's my day.

I want anybody around. No, I don't want anyone. My wife's always always I was like, hey, do you want someone to come over for the Cowboys? We can invite so. Nope. My wife doesn't even come in the room. No, I'm by myself.

She doesn't watch the games with you? No. She knows better. What about Oklahoma? You watch games with her? Sometimes. But she knows better that it will wreck my mood and I will not be good.

So she just knows better for her. Like, why does she want to be around me if I'm a nightmare? And she knows if we're winning that I'm still like, I bet we're going to blow this. So it's never positive. Because when it's good, I'm still like, I bet it's going to be bad. And when it's bad, it's just bad. That's the history of being a Razorback fan.

I feel like a Jets fan knows what it feels like. It just always the next play is like the stick. It's like the stick. That Marbles game where they all fall, the little sticks out, the next stick that's pulled. Yeah, that's my day. Kevin, what were you going to say? Yeah, I'm just excited for the Alabama-Georgia game.

I feel like it's been a little bit of a dud this year. USC and Michigan was pretty good last weekend. but I'm excited that an early game like that, early in the season that is, can be good. It's weird that Sabin's not involved in it because that's such a Sabin, Kirby Smart type situation. And DeBose really hasn't done anything yet. He hasn't really had, but he's only had, like, he's only had, like, three games. So it's not like he's had the ability to have a signature win of any kind yet, but this could be that for him, for sure. You mean coach DeBore?

Yeah, I'd say DeBose. I'm thinking of Mike. Yes, thank you. What's his first name? I have a little bit of brain fog. brain fogs this morning. What's his first name? You tell me. Oh, Kaelin. Kaelin, DeVore.

Hell of a coach. Yeah. I call him Dubois. Du Bois. Reed. I'm catching up with my fantasy here. So I got two guys that are questionable. So I'm going to make sure that I take them out. There you go.

Oh, my gosh. So Reed is up scoring a bunch of points and lost to me by nine points last week. But he had a player that was out. And I went and looked at his bench to see if he would have put anybody in. He still would have lost. Oh, okay, okay. But still... Yeah, bad move.

Come on, man. It's just a bad fantasy player. Bad fantasy player. Yes. So, yeah. Yeah, got to win this game this weekend against the Broncos. So we go play Sam Darnold in London. Next week, three in one, three in a row.

And, yeah, playoff baseball around the corner. Got my Yankee jersey on. Number one seed as of this recording. Let's go. This is our year, man. You got to keep one Soto. Yeah, but you all win a game against the Orioles? Not yet.

Not this series. But I still rep. I still wrap. I see how it is, Eddie. We'll see you guys. Next week. Have fun. About that parlay.

I feel pretty good about it. Yeah. I like it. I feel pretty good about it. All right. Take it. Here we go. Bye, buddy.

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