The Bobby Bones Show - 25W: Most Memorable Draft Reactions from Round 1 + QB Joe Flacco on the Browns Expectations in 2025 + Our Top 10 NFL Players of All-Time
Episode Date: April 25, 2025Following round 1 of the 2025 NFL Draft, Bobby and the guys recap the night, get Eddie's honest reaction to the Cowboys pick, and look back on some of the most memorable draft reactions from the past ...decade. Plus, Browns QB Joe Flacco joins Bobby to talk about his expectations for the Browns this upcoming season, what his draft night was like, and more! And Bobby & Eddie put together a list of their top 10 favorite NFL players of all-time! Download the DraftKings Sportsbook App today: https://dkng.co/bobbysports If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/MI/NJ/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/NH), 888-789-7777/visit http://ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 1-877-770-STOP (7867) (LA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), call/text TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA). 21+ (18+ WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/LA/MI/NJ/ NY/PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. N/A in NH/OR/ON. New customers only. Valid 1 per new customer. Min. $5 deposit. Min $5 wager. $200 issued as eight (8) $25 free bets. Ends 9/19/22. See http://draftkings.com/sportsbook for details. Follow the Show: @BobbyBonesSports Follow the Crew: @MrBobbyBones @ProducerEddie @KickoffKevin @MikeDeestro @ReidYarberrySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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If you heard anybody, who yelled football?
This guy.
The new guy.
Right here.
He didn't know.
We didn't tell him.
So when it's not football season,
we have the intro that goes,
it's blank.
We're talking.
And we're all wear a whistle.
We yell sports in the middle.
And I said,
hey,
we're not going to yell sports.
We'll do the football one.
Which Brandon interpreted as yell football.
But what an idiot.
He recorded the original one.
I did.
That's Brandon who sings the theme song.
Yeah.
There he is.
Good job,
Brandon.
Hey, it is football.
We doubled up.
Yeah.
I watched the entire draft last night.
Yeah.
And most of the time,
I don't watch all of it.
Life gets in the way,
but I kind of had a couple
extra tokens I could use
from just being an awesome husband
and I was just like,
I'm just gonna watch the whole draft.
Yeah, you gotta reserve those.
Yeah, so I didn't really catch him out
to stay in the other room.
I just didn't, yeah, I just hid.
I hid basically.
So,
I don't want it to be too much
about what's gonna happen
in the second round.
We can say,
sure I didn't get drafted,
shudder.
And that was weird
because it was,
where's he gonna go?
I mean, first it was possible that we go to Cleveland,
but when Cleveland traded out of that spot
and Jacksonville ends up giving up everything to get that spot,
you're like, well, he's not going to Jacksonville
because they have a quarterback, they just paid for a long time.
So then you're like, possibly the Giants,
but probably not the Giants, and he didn't go to the Giants.
So then the Browns were there at five,
and you thought maybe the Browns were trading back
because they knew that Chudor would still be there at five.
And so there is some value to trading back a few spots,
getting some picks,
and getting the same exact person later.
But when they took Mason Graham,
you're like, well, I don't think it's going to be the Raiders
because they just paid their quarterback,
and that's like a Pete Carroll reunification tour there.
And so you're going, okay, well, let's just look down.
I hoped it'd be the Jets, because they've been hilarious.
It wasn't the Jets.
It wasn't the Panthers, they have a quarterback, but it was the Saints at 9.
That's what they had been talking about for a long time.
but the whispers had then started to be
the Saints didn't even really value Shadur
as the next quarterback up
and you're going really they may go
to Ole Miss. It's funny they call
Ole Miss Mississippi. Yeah, that was funny
because they put it on the screen and they do it
they put on the screen Ole Miss
but Gadil
Gidell goes from Mississippi, University of Mississippi
yeah so but no
no quarterback at all taken by the Saints
then you're thinking well
will it be the Caled
and only because they're dumb.
That's the only reason.
That's funny you thought that.
That's the only reason because I thought maybe it'll be the Cowboys just because they're idiots.
Yeah.
Not because they needed it.
They're paying DAC, $50 million a year.
That never crossed my mind.
Wasn't the Cowboys?
Nope.
Then you're going, is it the Dolphins?
Two is always hurt.
They are paying them a bunch of money, but that backup gets, regardless of who it is, gets a lot of
play in time.
And I think the ESPN analytics, because I was flipping from ESPN to NFL
network. How did it like 46%
Miami at that point?
So Miami ends up going defensive tackle
and you're looking down and you're thinking either someone's going to trade in
at any minute or a quarterback's not going to get taken
because the Falcons don't need a quarterback. They didn't take a quarterback.
The Cardinals don't need a quarterback. The Bengals don't need a quarterback.
Seattle? Possibly?
Maybe. Okay. No shudder.
The bucks don't need a quarterback. The Broncos don't need a quarterback.
Nobody's trading in.
And now it's all coming to the Steelers.
Because we had heard if he lasted to 21,
which we didn't think he was going to last to 21 anyway.
For sure, the Steelers.
Derek Harmon, defensive tackle Oregon.
Oh, crap.
I would have bet the farm on that.
So in my mind, I'm thinking probably the Chargers next
because the Charger would have traded that pick,
is what I would have thought.
Because if the Steelers weren't going to get them,
it's open market for any of those other teams,
with the Chargers being next.
Now they did, and they took...
They got that running back.
From North Carolina.
And then away we went,
Packers don't need to quarterback.
Vikings don't need a quarterback.
Oh, wait, wait, wait.
There's a trade.
And they show the draft room where Shadur is,
and he's got a huge smile,
and he's like laughing.
What was funny, the funniest thing to me was,
on ESPN, they showed where Shadur was.
He's in Dallas.
Yeah, there's home,
and there's a big draft party.
But on the screens,
they have NFL Network's draft coverage.
They didn't last very long in that room.
They cut out of there
because they were showing NFL Network's coverage
on ESPN.
That's who they were watching.
You noticed that?
I didn't notice that.
Yeah, because I saw Rappaport, and on the NFL network, it was Eisen and Rappaport and Pelisar.
DJ.
So, okay, Giants, about to get them.
Back to get Shadur.
Here we go, baby.
Jackson Dart.
What the?
University of Mississippi.
Dude, my favorite is when they show the fans, and they're like, what?
And there had been a lot of talk that it wasn't going to be Shadur.
but it was like, we're hearing.
I know it's not the most popular thing to say,
but Jackson Dart could go before Shudur.
And then Shudor never went.
So by the time you hear this,
Shudor's probably the first pick in the second round.
Probably.
In Cleveland or whatever.
Because Cleveland, imagine that.
They're still going to get the quarterback they almost took.
As round, the first pick in the second round, wild.
And nobody, they don't have to trade that pick.
Like, if that's what they want, they got it.
Nobody can actually trade into it and take it from them.
It's crazy.
Yeah, and they stocked up.
up. The Jaguars trading up.
Which, to say about that, the Jaguars gave up a lot.
Yeah.
However, the Jaguars' GM is like 32.
For sure, he trades like I do on Madden.
Like, he just trades probably the way that I, I just push, will they accept this?
Will they accept this?
What if I add one more?
Will they accept this?
And then finally somebody, yep, trade accepted.
And so, yeah, they gave up a lot.
However, I'm a big believer of taking big swings.
He took a big swing.
And if you miss, okay, you took a big swing and it sucks.
But you really don't do big things unless you take big swings.
And it's not as if they're going to be any good for the next couple of years without big swings.
They can slowly rebuild that culture, but that's a four or five year thing.
Yeah.
And they will have to rebuild the culture, but they got a new coach.
They now have Travis Hunter.
They got a new GM.
It's 32 years old.
I was watching the interview.
He looks like a kid.
It's crazy.
Like for sure he trades a lot on Madden.
Oh,
yeah,
yeah,
that's how he practices.
Yeah.
I watch the whole thing.
I thought it was fun
whenever the Eagles traded up one spot.
Yeah,
in the first round just to make sure.
But they traded up with the team
that went one spot behind them
where it's almost like
you call Can't sit and you go,
hey,
are you going to take John Campbell?
Right.
No.
All right,
then we're going to be good and sit here.
But they were like,
we don't trust you.
Yeah.
Trade us and we'll give you a fifth round.
And so they traded up one spot
and they got him.
Think about him.
was he was like 12th, 13th, 14th on all the boards,
but he was hurt.
Because he's so good.
The Eagles, it seems like every year
have somebody fall for character reasons
or injury reasons, then end up being awesome
because that culture there,
either A, they heal up or be...
And the Eagles already, like, as a fan base, have character issues.
Well, or be, that culture corrects them, right?
Oh, yeah.
Like, you don't go into, you can't really go on to that place
to be an idiot because they'll whoop it out of you.
So I thought for the most part
It's a pretty fun draft
Because you just didn't know the whole time
I kept thinking the Cowboys were going to draft
Golden from Texas
That's what I wanted man
That receiver
God that would have been great
But you know what though
I'm happy with this pick
We needed someone to take Zach Martin
Zach Martin's place
You're not happy with the pick
No
You're happy with now when you look
You wanted
We wanted a flash pick
Matthew Golden
Because you said you get annoyed when they draft
I want a Gentie
And then I want a Matthew Golden
And then Scataboo
after that, but maybe we still get it in the second round.
I think we have three picks in the seventh round.
So maybe we get scataboo.
You'll definitely draft a running back.
There's a lot of them.
Yeah, heavy running back draft.
Yeah.
You weren't happy last night, but I think you'll be happy.
It's like a sexy investment.
Sure.
Didn't know much about investments.
But when I'm like, ooh, let's do a restaurant.
That's a wide receiver or you're like,
it's going to be fun, it's going to be cool.
But if someone's like, actually the S&P 480,
you know, you could do this and it goes up one point.
I'm like, that's not so boring, okay.
And then like three years later, you realize the restaurant's out of business.
It's boarded up or it's a daycare now.
Your S&P 800.
It's actually made you money.
Like that's what you guys did.
You invested in whatever that is.
I know.
But there was an interview that he did afterwards with Michael Parsons and a couple of the cowboys.
And, dude, it was so awesome.
They asked him like, you know, about he's always said that he loves taking the love out of people's eyes
when he plays football.
And they're like, what is that mean?
Did you hear this?
Yeah, I saw that one.
And they're like, Darius Lay, too.
What does that mean?
And he goes, he goes, he's like, football's a child sport.
Like it's, you know, you wake up in the morning, you're excited to play the game.
And he's like, and I took so much, so much love out of playing these guys and watching
the game start with them loving the game of football.
And in the middle of the game, them looking like they hate the game of football.
And I was like, yes, that's what I'm talking about.
That's what the cowboys need.
You bet terrible juror.
Eddie would shift on every single thing.
Yeah.
Because he was all upset.
Now he's like, good interview.
I wasn't upset.
I was disappointed.
But then after I saw that interview, I'm like, this is cool.
And he's the third Tyler on the offensive line.
He's going to get confusing.
Well, you're justifying a lot of ways to like this.
He's really good.
He's a guard.
Guard usually don't get drafted that early.
Tackles are much more valuable because of how athletic they have to be
defending the edge because those ends have the ability.
But yeah, no.
Booker's awesome.
Let's go.
So, yeah, good job, Cowboys.
As a non-Cowboy fan, I think that was a good pick by the Cowboys.
Yeah, you have clearer eyes than we do.
I can understand why I'm in a cowboy group chat, which I don't want to be in.
They put me in, I can't get out.
I don't even respond to that Cowboys group chat.
They were all like, oh, or nothing for a long time after the pick, because it was all leading up to it.
Memes and pictures.
And then I wrote on there, the crowd goes mild.
I guess they said nothing.
They said nothing.
What does everybody else then?
Yeah.
So, pretty good draft.
I mean, Cam Ward, obviously, we knew he'd go number one.
Travis Hunter
We knew would probably go number two
We just thought it beat at Cleveland
Abdel Carter
It kind of was the way we thought
It just wasn't all the teams that we thought
I did
I've had two bad
Betting losses in the past
Two days though
Did you bet on the draft?
Well, I only made one bet
I've lost like
$1,300 in the last two days
Oh man
I'll tell you my two bets specifically
Are you good?
Yeah, I'm rich
You need a loan
I'm okay
I don't like it
I mean it sucks
it's not like fun to lose
but no I appreciate that
we're here for you
yeah yeah
we got about 20 bucks all together
I bet the other night
when Golden State was down
like 18 to the Rockets
bro they were at minus
oh no it's Golden State
plus eight and a half
going into half and I was like
oh for sure they may not win this
but they're gonna end up getting
and so I put
wait wait you said for sure
yeah
it always gets to me when I say for sure
I'm like for sure
Golden State they may not win
but they'll climb within eight points.
And they didn't actually.
They lost bad.
That's about 15.
So I lost 500 bucks on that one.
And in my account, I think I had 1,300 bucks.
And so I bet Ashton Gent did he go fifth overall last night?
The rest of it, like $700, $7.30 or something?
And he went sixth.
And that was only because the order changed.
Damn, that's crazy.
That's close.
I think it was.
I look at that again.
Oh, yeah.
Because Cleveland popped into that five spot.
It did.
Because the deal was Jacksonville at 5 wanted to take him.
And if Jacksonville would have been at 5, they would have taken them.
But Jacksonville traded up to the 2 spot.
So I think had that trade not happen, I would have hit.
Yeah, Browns, we went down to 5.
Yeah.
Sorry, dude.
Hey, Ubla de, ubloida.
I know, but that live NBA, dude, that's tough.
I didn't even watch the game.
I fell asleep.
And I woke up and I was like, oh, let me count my monies.
Oh, god-nay.
You know what?
That was funny.
You said this today, too.
You're like, man, I want to sleep, dude.
The Grizzlies won?
And Shador got picked.
No.
that happened. Well, I didn't think Shudor
got picked, but I did think to Grizzlies won because
we were talking about it on the show. Oh, I watched that whole game
too. They were up by 20 or something.
Chet just started draining threes in the second half
and it was over. And I had just assumed
it was 2-1 because we did
the YouTube video with Ray to see if I was going to
buy them tickets to the game. And I was like, no, no, no.
I'm like, oh my God, they lost again.
I knew Jog got hurt. Yeah.
But it was like a 20-point lead.
Yeah. 29. Crazy.
Yeah. Thunder Up 30.
Hey, I called it.
I'm just joking. I'm not going to say that yet.
I'm not going to say that yet.
Wait to round two.
But it is fun though. It is fun now that like it.
I'm rooting for the thunder.
But there's a bonus to me now if they don't win.
Are you rooting more for thunder or me in a thong?
Thunder.
But there is a consolation, which is you have to pay off the bed.
I think it would be awesome at the Thunder one.
I just, I've been playing 2K a little bit, not online, but just myself because sometimes I wake up like 2 in the morning.
And there's a breaking point of when I wake up and when I try to go back to
sleep and when I wake up and I just can't go back to sleep because then I'm messed up because
there's a certain level of nap that just messes my brain up. So there's a breaking point.
It's like 245. If I wake up before 245, I'll try to go back to sleep. If I'm up 310, 320,
I'm just up because I'm going to wake up the next hour and a half anyway. So I started to play
2K25 just against the computer. So I built a team and I grabbed the thunder. That would be my favorite
NBA team, even though I don't really have a favorite, but it's my favorite NBA team.
Current Thunder?
All-time Thunder?
Current Thunder, because it's the season.
And I trade a chat.
He sucks.
Wow.
I don't know what to do with him.
Really?
Yeah, because he's a fine three-point shooter, but he's not quick enough.
I just don't know how to use him on the game.
He was like a 90 overall.
I traded him.
Who did you trade him for?
Amen, Thompson.
And another draft pick.
So I got rid of Chet.
He sucks on the game.
And he also couldn't post people out.
They push him around.
Skinny as a rail.
I'd be a terrible general manager.
You are the Jaguats.
Yeah, yeah.
I play like two.
two games and I was like, I got to trade Chet. I'm out of here. So...
They're all scared of you. Yeah. So that's what's up. I want to play. I found this on
TikTok. It was hilarious to me. I think it translates audio-wise, but it's a compilation of the
worst draft reactions of all time from the last decade. And it was posted by Skema Skivi
on TikTok. And what it is, they'll say, and the so-and-so draft so-and-so. And the crowd gets
all pissed off. But it ends up being great, like a great decision. The crowd had no
idea. They'd have a time machine
obviously. I think this translates.
Go ahead, hit it, Mike.
Vikings went with
Justin Jefferson. I am kind
of unhappy with that.
The Houston, Texas select
JJ Y.
I hate it.
The L. W. Eagle select.
Cameron Hertz.
That has to be the stupidest thing I've ever
seen a lot.
Really? This is why this organization will never win a Super Bowl in my lifetime.
That's great.
That's hilarious, right?
I'm glad to translate it because I'm watching it going, we have no idea.
Even us.
Even the experts.
Because either Kiper is going to be Mr. Genius in five years from this draft or he's going to be the biggest idiot.
Because as soon as the draft starts, they're like, Mel, Cam's not your number one quarterback, Connie.
He's like, it is not.
It's Shadur Sanders.
And it's like a nine-minute American Idol highlight.
package.
Like, all about show.
He's like, number one, number one.
And so either he will look like a genius for this or not.
But the way to win these as a Kiper, who's an analyst, us who just say stupid stuff,
we don't know anything, is just to be compelling and interesting.
It's not to be right.
And I think a lot of times people get those confused.
Like, well, look how wrong he was.
The joke's kind of on you because if they were wrong, it was memorable by how they were wrong.
and they still exist
in whatever the zeitgeist
of sports media is
when they do the Calhard
like how wrong he is at times
the dude talks for three hours a day
four hours a day
five days a week
just numbers wise
you're gonna be wrong a lot
but he's very compelling
and even he said that to me
he's like it doesn't matter
if you're right or wrong
like just be interesting
and so
Cowher said that too
yeah
that's cool
and so
he wasn't he was saying
in a conversation
we were having
that's awesome
yeah
and
that's how I feel about all the stuff that we do on this show or whatever.
We're not experts anyway.
We're people who just love sports.
But even on the big show, like, I say all kinds of stuff that's not right.
And sometimes I correct it.
Sometimes I'm like, yeah, most time I try to correct it if it's something that needs to be corrected.
But yeah, we're wrong a lot.
Bad draft reaction.
They were really wrong.
I mean, that Josh Allen, we were all like, what?
Who is Josh Allen?
Even after year one, I think we were still like.
Yeah, so even in the NFL for a year, we were like, I don't know about this.
But we're all idiots.
I do want to play Michael Parsons because
Michael Parsons was live streaming
like his podcast Bleacher Report thing last night
and they had the camera on him
when the Cowboys were drafting their pick
and so Michael Parsons is watching
and they end up drafting Tyler Booker
from Bam in the Guard
and so... Bleacher reports deleted the clip
which is hilarious.
They say something bad?
No, no, but I'll just play it for you.
Go ahead.
And the Dallas Cowboys are selective.
Tyler Booker
offensive lineman from Alabama is the official pick
out of the Crimson Tide
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
I am excited about the pick.
Hey, it might be a great player, but we just laughing at him.
Hold on, hold on.
I am excited about the pick.
This guy is a beast.
He is a beast.
And I look at him and Tyler Smith,
guard on guard with Zach Martin leaving.
This is one of them picks.
I mean, wow, he is a beast.
He is a beast.
I just wanted to see that on my side of the ball.
That's it.
But this guy's a beast.
I'm not mad at the pick.
Because when they said in his face, he goes, oh.
Yeah.
But I believe him.
I think he just wanted.
Totally.
He wants some help.
Yeah.
Because he doesn't have much help.
It's just him.
Not anymore.
Seriously, he was deflated.
They were like, oh.
And they goes, no, no, no.
Because I thought it was going to be hell.
He's just like Eddie and every other Cowboys fan.
Yes.
You know, at first you're like,
and then you're like,
oh, okay, yeah, yeah, actually he's all right.
He's all right.
Then you look at the highlights
and you're like, okay,
you gotta convince yourself.
He wanted, we all want help.
But there will be help.
That's help for the offense.
Yes.
And this that's coming.
We got more rounds.
And offense scores more points.
He gets more chances
to rush the quarterback.
More sacks,
because they're always having a little more rest
to have to throw.
Yeah, yeah, I felt that though.
So we have Joe Flacco coming up.
Pretty excited about that.
Really good interview in just a second.
We can talk about Drive Kings.
I got to get back in the mix.
Oh, yeah, yeah. Reload. You're good, dude.
I never want to reload for the sake of losing.
What do you mean?
Well, I had two big losses. I don't want to reload just to make my money back.
I got to reload. I get my head straight.
Oh, okay, yeah. So take some time a little bit.
Get your head straight.
A couple hours. I'll be back in.
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Joe Flacco, NFL quarterback, Super Bowl 47 MVP.
Playing with the Browns now.
I bet you he was watching last night going,
don't picture her, don't picture her.
He just seems so unfazed in every way.
Flacco.
Just goes with the flow.
I agree.
He just been through it.
But yeah, to your point,
I'm just surprised he's already signed with the team.
I mean, I think he'll start.
Oh, he should.
I mean, can he picket's probably not?
I don't know what they're going to do.
tank, they'll start Pickett.
And Flacco will be the backup
in case Pickett gets hurt.
If they actually want to win some games,
yeah.
Flacco will probably be the starter.
I imagine that Browns will draft
Shadur first overall.
And I hope this isn't get played back
in a compilation of like,
wrong things Bobby said.
Just be compelling.
Joe signed with Cleveland this off season
and will return to the Browns
where he played in 2023 when he won
comeback player of the year.
You know who he beat for a comeback player of the year?
Yep.
A guy who died.
DeMarry.
That's right.
He died and came back to life.
He played for the Ravens for 10 years,
played for the Broncos, Jets, and Colts since.
Joe Flacco, pretty pumped about this.
Here he is.
Hey, Joe, appreciate the time.
I wanted to start talking about these cleats
because, like, I get hurt a lot,
and I'm not even playing football.
Like, I play pickleball and get hurt at this point.
Like, I used to be, like, kind of athlete.
But so, is it Caddix cleats?
Is that what it is?
Caddix cleats.
Yeah.
What do they do?
Well, listen, the biggest thing they do
is they kind of blend performance and injury prevention all in one cleat.
It's all, the technology is all in the soul, all in the actual cleat.
It kind of moves around a little bit.
And it just basically like allows a little bit of release when you're planting.
So as opposed to sometimes when you can kind of get caught and hyper extend your limbs
and kind of, you know, have too much traction, this allows for a little bit of a release
so that not as much energy is kind of moving up through your body.
But it's really cool.
I feel really fortunate to be able to kind of be a part of it and wear them last year and kind of had that whole experience.
You feel like they helped?
Like, for real?
Listen, I think the biggest thing is you know that the technology is reducing the risk.
Now, as far as the athlete goes, as far as I go, I just went out there and wore them like any other pair of cleats.
I will say they're very comfortable.
They tend to break in very quickly and be a little bit easier on all your joints.
but ultimately for me,
it's like I'm wearing another pair of cleats
that I've loved my whole life.
Bro, I got to get some of these.
We do a show too.
We travel around and work out
with colleges and NFL teams
and interview.
And I end up hurting something every time
because it's all, I'm going to get up,
which by the way, they're doing a thing now.
Caddix is partnering with NFL Alumni Health
during this week's draft to give away
free pair of their cleats.
And you can go to NFL alumnihealth.org
or go to cadix.com,
C-D-D-D-I-X.com.
My partner that I work with a lot is Matt Castle, who played in the league for a long time.
And he talks about once he started to be a bit older and he had dealt with injuries,
that the hardest part was not not getting injured.
It was bouncing back because as you get older, it's harder to bounce back.
At your stage right now, is that the hardest part?
When something hurts, does it take longer to heal?
I think you got to make sure that you get to the point where,
nothing, you minimize the amount of buildup that happens.
Obviously, throughout the course of a game, you're going to deal with acute injuries
that you have to try to heal from as quick as possible.
But I think for me, as I get a little bit older, it's just that maintenance routine.
It's getting a good routine so that little things don't turn into big things.
And when I was younger, you kind of run through those little things in a week.
And now that I've turned 40, they kind of build up.
They don't go away.
And before you know it, you're hurting a lot more than you want to.
Does it hurt after every game or is there an occasional game where you're like, you look down?
You're like, I'm okay.
That's the beauty about playing quarterback is that, yes, you do look down after some games and say,
oh, wow, it came out of that one great.
And you don't really deal with anything.
The other 10, 11 guys on the field, the other 21 guys on the field when you're out there,
they are dealing with it week and and week out.
I would say that I have it easy as, you know, as it comes to the NFL standard.
Why you still playing?
You love it?
I better love it if I'm doing this.
Yeah.
Listen, I have one thing, maybe hopefully a couple more than one thing, but one thing that I really, really enjoy doing.
One thing that I feel like I can really do at a high level.
And I've never really thought about not doing it.
I've been able to do it since I've been a kid.
And I kind of just want to keep that dream alive.
I still feel like I can do it at a high level and have a lot of fun doing it.
doing it. So yeah, that's kind of why I still do it. It's kind of a weird question to talk about.
But it's a lot of fun and I do love it. I love being in that locker room with all the players.
I love being in the huddle, that feeling that you get before game time. I wouldn't say that I'm
totally in love with that. But when you don't have that for a few months, you realize that you
miss it. It's just something that's pretty special. Yeah, just eyeball testing you. You look
good. Like even with the Jets, you're like, man,
Flacco still got it, like, when you had to play.
So if you weren't, like, telling us that you were 40,
or if the media wasn't all the time,
like, Flacco's 38, Flackos 39.
I don't think you, like, you, it's almost like Adrian Peterson.
When he got hurt, everybody was in, oh, wow, we can bounce back quicker,
or AP did.
Brady's playing in the 40s, the guys are playing in the 40s,
a little more if it's technology, if it's health,
if it's education about, you know, what to do to their body.
But I feel like you don't play like I would think a 40-year-old
should play like. Do you feel like taking care of your body has really paid off at this point
in your career because of that? I do. I don't know if I do anything special, but I think I've been
consistent through the course of my career. I figured out probably within the first three or four
years that I need to come up with a routine and make it important to me to kind of stay in shape
and get stronger. And I think that the fact that I've been able to stay consistent is kind of what's
allowed me to keep going. Obviously, you have to get lucky along the
the way too. I've dealt with a couple little things here and there where maybe I haven't felt
100%, but I think that routine has kind of allowed me to get back to where I can feel good.
Is it weird to play for a new team? And you've done it a couple times, but when you're a Raven
forever and you go in the first time, put on a different color, you look in the mirror. Is that weird?
It was the first time I did it was definitely strange. And I was a little bit nervous about it.
I kind of felt like the new kid in class and, you know, walking into a locker room for the first time.
and who's the first person you're going to say hello to?
Is it going to be awkward?
You know, kind of having all those weird feelings that you don't know why you're getting when you're,
and when you're an adult.
But I think after I did it, you kind of realize that there's a lot of similarities in every locker room.
We're all kind of working towards that common goal, and we've kind of been doing it our whole lives.
So there's a lot of similarities that you see from locker room to locker room.
And there's always great guys that you connect with and can have a lot of fun with.
What about Stefansky?
What is it about him that brought you back and then brought you?
back again. I think Kevin's
a really good play caller, and I think his
demeanor in general is very good for
running a team. The way he's kind of
able to stay himself
and be the same person throughout
the year, kind of no matter what's going
on. I think he's been tested.
He's had some success and he's had some seasons
where they haven't won as many games
as they've wanted to. And I think
that that can really kind of
sharpen who you are as a person
and make you come out better on the other side. And I think
that's what he's been able to do.
Can you give me a memory from when the lights went out in the Super Bowl?
Because that was weird for us.
I can't imagine you're freaking playing in the Super Bowl and it all goes down.
Like what are you guys even talking about when that happens?
I remember sitting on the bench and kind of the lights go out and you kind of just look around.
Like what the heck is going on?
I wish I had more memories of it.
It's funny because after the game, everybody kind of started expressing to me what they thought.
And some people were scared.
I mean, I had a lot of friends and family that were nervous as what was going on.
And thankfully, for me, that never really crossed my mind.
I kind of just took it for what it was, sat on the ground, stretched out a little bit.
You know, you think it's going to be two or three minutes.
You don't realize it's going to be 20 or 30 or however long it was.
So I think if I had to guess how my mindset was, it was probably taking it like every two or three minutes,
thinking they were going to come back on and we were going to get right back to it.
playing at Pittsburgh and college and then Delaware like to me that's cold weather
sounds terrible but you've played in cold weather places in the NFL for the most part
too is that even a thing do you even get cold or is that just normal there's definitely
things about that that are not ideal uh I think you just you put that big coat on you sit on
the heated bench and you deal with it for the five 10 minutes that you're that you're not
sitting on that bench but we got it we got it we got
it pretty easy. The fact that we got guys waiting
for us on the sideline to throw a big coat over
us and sit on a 100 degree
warming bench.
When you're out there playing,
you're honestly not thinking about it. It's like the first
30 seconds that you take that coat off that you're
thinking, what the hell am I doing?
Pre-game warm-ups are actually
probably more miserable than the game because you're like,
do I want to even go out there and warm up or do I just
want to kind of hang out in the locker room and say,
I'm good. I'll be ready
to go once the game starts.
And in warm-os probably no adrenaline, right?
Yeah, exactly. You're not, you're just like, I'm not playing the game. Why am I going to go out there and do it to myself and I don't have to? So it's a little bit harder, mental hurdle to get out there for pregame. At the height of your career, or when you, we'll say your arm was the healthiest, it may even be now. You ever just chunk a ball to see how far you could throw a ball?
You know, I used to when I was in college. Like when I was in late college, early part of my career in the NFL, I was probably more interested in seeing how far I could throw it.
and doing some long toss.
These days, I just kind of do it to keep my arm in shape.
I'm not necessarily super worried about where I can throw the ball through the uprights from.
When people ask me, I always just say, I can throw it around 75 yards.
I don't know, maybe give or take a few yards here and there.
So 80, 85, if you don't know.
I honestly, if I could touch 80, I would probably say 80.
I don't think I've ever thrown a football 80 yards.
Unless I was down on the Jersey shore, on the beach, with a four,
mile an hour wins. I wasn't throwing the ball 80 yards.
That's a good point because if I'm lying about driving a golf ball, I never lie short.
I always, or I always estimate a little long. It's like, what do you tell? Yeah, about 265 average and really it's not that.
That's right. Yeah, that's a good point. When did you realize in your youth that you had a really strong arm?
I guess growing up on the school yard, just kind of playing two-hand touch. I could always throw that little ball that, you know, the little pee-wee ball that kind of everybody plays with.
I think, you know, we might have had a Minnesota Vikings
or probably a Philadelphia Eagles rubber football
that we could kind of, I could throw the length of the schoolyard
and nobody else could really do that.
So you kind of figure, all right,
maybe I could throw the ball a little bit.
When these guys are getting ready for draft day, draft night,
if it's night one or second round or third night,
like, what was your draft night like?
So I was sitting on my couch and my parents' house.
I really didn't want to let cameras in
because I was unsure about where I was going to be.
picked and just kind of wanted to be more private in general. But obviously I got talked into,
you know, allowing them to come into the house. And I was just kind of sitting on the
couch and waiting to see what happens. And we were all watching the draft excited and
kind of eager to see what was going to happen. But coming from Delaware, I didn't know if I was
going to be, there was a lot of momentum probably behind where I was going to be picked. I felt
like I was probably going to be picked decently high. But I could have been a first round pick.
I could have been a third round pick. I had no idea. So I was a little bit, I was excited.
obviously.
Because at that point, I didn't really care where I was going to be picked.
I knew that I was going to be an NFL draft pick.
And I think that was the most exciting thing.
But yeah, there was probably a little bit of uncertainty in my mind, too,
because you just don't know where you're going to go and where you're going to spend the next,
you know, you plan on spending the next 15 years of your life, probably,
wherever you end up getting picked.
So it was, you know, definitely, definitely a little bit of mixed feelings about where that could be.
Who called you?
Ozzie called me.
Ozzie called me and I think they were I think they traded up with Houston I want to say
and he said hey Joe we're about to you know we're about to trade up here with Houston into the 18th
pick and and select you to become a Baltimore Raven and you know obviously like the whole room
that I was sitting in kind of went nuts because they were you know they realized I was on the phone
call and I was kind of giving them a head nod or whatever I was doing to let him know like hey
it's about to happen how much sleep do you try to get a night right now yeah
We're going to pivot into health.
Man, I got to tell you, there was a time where, like, my kids were younger and we could actually enjoy like three hours on the couch, me and my wife by ourselves from like 730 to 10.30 or 11 o'clock, 11.30, whatever we wanted to do.
You know, we could put those kids to bed.
But now my kids are getting older.
They complain about bedtime every night.
It's getting pushed, you know, further and further back.
And I'm usually knocked out on the couch at 9.
o'clock. And then at 10.15, I'm waking up with my wife going back to bed and I'm sleeping until
6.30, 6.45 every day. So is there a, you get to a game? Because there are mornings if I'm either
doing the show or if I'm, even if I'm on touring doing stand-up, my brain, I just have brain fog
some days. And if I sleep, maybe something I ate, you ever get to the game day and you're like,
man, like, I'm just not fully there. And you have to go, all right, guys, my brain's not clicking
the right way. I need you to, like, help me out a little bit. Listen, there's times. Yeah, I don't
know about my brain, but your body definitely wakes up a little bit tired sometimes. And listen,
it's not ideal for us. We're waking up, even if most of the time, even if you're at home,
you're waking up in a hotel. You don't get to sleep in your own bed. And definitely if you're
on the road. And honestly, I'm not great at falling asleep and sleeping well in a hotel.
I usually can kind of turn my mind off and not worry about anything. And I'm the same way the night
before the game. I'm not really thinking about it. I feel like if I do have things on my mind,
I can actually relax and go to bed and kind of put it out of my mind. But just a night's sleep in a
hotel, I've never quite gotten used to it. So there's always probably a little bit of that.
Three final questions that leads me to that. So do you stay at home, do you stay in the same hotel room
and the same bed to at least have some sort of consistency? Man, I've been all over the place the last few
years. I have no idea. I think typically, yes, you're in the same room all year. Like in Baltimore?
more.
Same room?
Yeah.
Same room.
Same room.
Same room.
Yeah, I don't want same room.
Same bed.
Same channels.
I want on channel four when I get there like in the hotel.
I want to have some sort of consistency.
What's the goal of this season?
The goal of this season is to kind of become part of the team first of all.
And then not, you know, I obviously have some expectations in my mind, but try not to
worry about those things.
Just want to go out there and compete and hopefully to be the guy that's on the field this
year and helping a team win some football games.
My last question is the.
video that went viral of you on the airplane when they call you and you're putting your bags up
in the overhead and it's like this Joe Flacco and that's kind of how everybody knew what'd you think
about that I guess I was surprised but um I think in this day and age there's always the chance that
something like that's going to happen obviously I'm on a flight to Cleveland in the middle of the
season and on the flight with people from Cleveland so they're probably thinking if they recognize me
they're probably thinking, oh my God, what was he doing here?
Maybe they're looking to get him.
And I think I was in the back of the plane,
so people probably thought that was funny and just kind of random shot of me.
It's never the most flattering thing
when you're just kind of taking, getting candid shots taken of you
in the middle of a runway, you know, in the middle of a walkway on an airplane.
But hey, I think it's all good.
It kind of created some positive vibes and, you know,
got everybody excited for whatever reason.
And, you know, got to love that.
Well, I'm ruined for you, man.
I'm a fan.
I've been a fan.
So congratulations.
And again, these cleats, Caddix, go over to NFL alumnihealth.org or caddix.com.
That's super cool.
And Joe, we appreciate the time.
And I hope you have a wonderfully healthy season, man.
Thank you for spending some time with us.
No, I appreciate it.
You guys have a good one.
All right, thanks, Joe.
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That's somebody asked me my favorite football players of all time, and I was like, I don't know, I'm not eight.
That's tough.
That's tough.
And not disrespectfully, I was like, I don't know my favorites would be ever.
So I made my list.
And I told Eddie DeMachus too.
So do you have 10 through one of all time?
Dude, it was the easiest list I ever made in my life.
I got to like four or five.
And then I had to start going, who do I even like?
Because I'm my favorite team.
Yeah.
See, that's where it helps me a lot.
All right, number 10 on your list.
Number 10.
Okay, so the lowest Joe Montana.
Should we start at one or 10?
I'd say one because Joe Montana is like kind of like I had to throw him down there because I can not put him up any any more than that. So let's just go. Let's go one. Do your favorite first? Okay. Favorite player of all time. Emmett Smith, baby. I mean, come on. Did you get a picture of you and Emmett? I did. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Read gave me a picture of me and Emmett. And you know the conversations that we had. The fact that he said like Eddie's not a good athlete because I had broken my arm. That's pretty cool. Yeah, he's nice. Because somebody had asked like, Eddie, what happened to your arm? He's like, don't ask him. He's just not an athlete. He's an idiot.
It's pretty cool.
You got to meet your favorite.
Dude, that's so freaking.
Because I haven't got to meet my favorite,
and I'll tell you mine in a minute in real life.
Yeah.
But favorite football players of all time.
M.
Smith, number one, number two.
Troy Aikman.
All the famous Troy Akeman.
And now...
These are cowboys.
Just wait for the list.
Okay.
Quarterback, Troy Eggman.
Yeah.
Number three?
Why, Troy Aikman?
Just because he was the quarterback when they're winning.
Yeah, dude.
Troy Aikman brought me so much happiness.
Okay, three?
Michael Irman.
Ervin.
Number 88.
The king of number 88.
He's the original O. Gene.
Well, maybe Drew Pearson was, but for as long as I remember,
he's your number 88.
He's my 88.
Okay, him four?
DeMarcus, where?
I mean...
Did you ever meet DeMarcus?
I did.
I introduced him at the game, right?
Cowboys at the Cowboys game.
He's a monster.
And he's like, you have his number, right?
Like...
Oh, yeah, we text sometimes.
That's pretty cool.
But we have a relationship because we had trauma bonding.
We did dancing with stars together.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then we would go train together in the same.
room sometimes and he was in my final dance like you ask your friends if sometimes you do they'll be
like hey you want to be in the final dance sometimes people just want to show off their dance
I did and I just wanted to like get through it and so asked demarc I said hey do you want to be in my final
dance and he was like yeah and he lifted me above his head in the dance he's awesome like great guy
a monster him barreling down on you as another human you see that guy that big that fast
hitting you that hard on the football field yeah wow crazy it's funny you say that because
the yeah the on the dance
on the stars funny he picked you up
but then also when you saw him in person
he pugged you and picked you up
so he's kind of that thing like which is awesome
because like you're my best friend
and then I love Demarcus Ware
and he came like Bobby Bois
and he picked you up and like dude that is so freaking
cool Bobby knows him like that he's so lovable
like such a wonderful guy I wonder
did you root for him when he went to the Broncos to win
yeah I'll anybody that was good to the Cowboys
I root for him anywhere they go
Charles Haley, like, you know, same deal.
Root for him, other teams.
Yeah, I think that's a good one to root.
There are sometimes I don't root for people that switch teams.
Depends how they left.
Yeah, you're right.
Yeah, next.
Tony Dorset.
Old school.
I mean, when I was a child, he was the running back.
He was awesome.
Is that five?
That's number five, yeah.
And then number six, Herschel Walker.
But mainly because he, because of Herschel Walker,
In him being traded to the Minnesota Vikings,
we got all those picks and we got Troy Eggman,
we got Michael Irvin, we got Emmett Smith,
and we won three Super Bowls out of that.
So your favorite player is a trade.
Yeah, the value of your favorite player.
Totally.
Because he was awesome in himself as a player,
but when he left and got traded,
it changed everything for Dallas Cowboys fans.
But it's not Hershal Walker as the player.
He was still awesome, though.
Herschel Walker was awesome.
I agree he was awesome.
So yeah, he was one of my favorite.
Fair enough. I'll not argue. There were no rules.
Next. C.D. Lamb,
the next number 88. Well, skipping Des Bryant.
C.D. Lamb, when he got drafted, you talk about
moments when someone got drafted and you're
really excited about it. That was it.
Yeah, from Oklahoma.
Oklahoma. And I'll never forget it when the Cowboys.
Because, I mean, Cowboys notoriously don't ever draft
big names. For some reason, it's always like,
okay, cool, I guess we didn't need that lineman.
Don't really know who he is, but we'll take him.
You see where he spends a million bucks a year?
you're on his body? That story that came out? No, million dollars. I think it's like $50,000 every two
weeks or something. And he's like, well, when you do, you have a red light therapy, he does the
red light therapy sauna bed, whatever the thing is. He has a sauna. He has, does body work. He's like,
it's about a million bucks a year, but it's like an investment so he can continue to make the millions
of dollars. LeBron was the one, the first famous one that would talk about how much he spent
to keep himself healthy. But C.D.L.A.m wasn't like flexing on it. Somebody had asked him, but he's like,
I spend out a million bucks a year.
And LeBron's still playing.
Yeah, and he's 40.
He's not just playing.
He'll probably be second team all NBA.
And that's not an all-star team.
All-Star team's voting.
And sometimes weirdos get into that.
Big sniff on the microphone there?
Yep.
Bye bad.
The fact that LeBron's 40 and his second team, all NBA, is wild.
Pretty amazing.
Okay, next up, eight?
Number eight, Micah Parsons.
All time.
I mean.
So it's nine and a 49er.
You did nine Cowboys and a 49er.
That's funny.
No, no, I got one more.
I think Michael Parsons is eight.
I know, yeah, but I'm saying the next one's probably a cowboy,
and it's probably nine and a four-known.
Okay, who's nine?
Tony Romo, baby?
Okay, yeah.
Number nine, Tony Romo.
So, nine and then Joe Mono.
So number nine and then Joe Monta.
I was probably Romo's lower.
Yeah, not higher, yeah.
Man, there were a lot of pain in the Romo years.
I thought Quincy Carter would make it.
No Quincy Carter.
Drew Blitzow?
No John Kittina.
Dude, Quincy Carter was drafted from Georgia.
He was up.
Next guy.
That's what we thought, too.
Heck yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. Did you do a list?
No.
Okay.
I have my top 10 here.
Number one, I have not met him in person only on Zoom.
Do you know who my favorite NFL player is?
Yeah, Boomeris Isson.
Because he was a left-handed quarterback.
And since I didn't have a team, I kind of adopted the Bengals because he had a left-hand
of quarterback and because their helmets were cool.
That's literally it.
The helmets are awesome.
Yeah, still are awesome, by the way.
But you're not a Bengals fan.
Nah.
They don't have a left-handed quarterback anymore.
They don't.
They don't.
Number two, Darren McFadden.
Arkansas.
Played, you know, Raiders and Cowboys.
And that was strictly I rolled with him.
My personal connection is from Arkansas to, in the NFL.
I think had he been on better teams, he'd have had a much better, highly productive career.
Because he was really good.
He had bad teams.
Did you see him play as a Razorback?
Yeah.
Yeah, a couple times.
Number three, Steve Young.
Did that change because you did meet him?
No, left-handed quarterback.
Of course.
Left-handed quarterback in those years when I had to find,
because I was playing quarterback when I was young, young,
mostly just because I was smart.
It wasn't even anything else.
I just knew what play, like, here's the play to call.
I could run the play.
And so when you're that age,
really it's just knowing how to where to hand the ball, right?
But Steve Young was left-hand a quarterback.
I thought it was so cool.
There weren't many.
So Steve Young was number three.
I mean, if I, like in real life,
he'd be up there probably one after, like,
getting to meet him, yeah.
But I'm weighing in all time, like from childhood to now, everything.
Number four is Peyton Manning.
I loved Peyton Manning.
I just loved the Peyton Manning went out and ran the whole offense.
And his offensive coordinator was like his peer.
It wasn't like the guy that was giving him everything.
It was like his peer, he worked alongside, but he ran the show.
He was the freaking sheriff in that locker room on the field.
I think Peyton Manning, if there weren't championships,
I think Peyton Manning's probably the greatest quarterback ever.
But because there are championships, Tom Brady is.
In a vacuum, though, and it's like you have one quarterback,
and you need a quarterback to throw for a bunch of yards,
to read defenses, it's Peyton Manning.
What era of Peyton Manning is your favorite?
Not the Bronco era, because his neck was hurt.
Yeah, so Colts?
He did win, and he was a Super Bowl champion there.
Yeah, yeah, but not year one.
He'd think he threw 18 interceptions.
That's a rough start.
Like a rookie record for picks.
Peyton Manning's at number four.
Deon Sanders is at five.
Yes.
I loved Dion as a player, too,
because he played both ways enough.
He didn't play a lot of wide receiver, but he did some.
So there was always the, is he going to play wide receiver?
But he did return kicks and puns.
Of course.
And that was awesome.
So shut down corner, which I didn't really appreciate until later because they didn't
show the shutdown corner on television when he was shutting down.
Because they don't really put.
It's not that wide.
They don't really put someone on that's just keeping the ball from being thrown there
because the camera follows the ball.
But he was high profile.
He wore the glasses, the chains.
And they did his little hop into the end zone.
Yes.
I'm surprised he wasn't on yours, Eddie.
I thought about putting him on there, but, you know, I thought, I gave DeMarcus wear that.
That's fun.
Wait, so that doesn't make sense.
You put DeMarcus War like five.
But here's the deal.
So Dion was going to be five or nothing.
He wasn't going to be six, seven, eight.
Deionn't a cowboy for a long time.
He shared a lot of time with a lot of other teams, so that's kind of why I didn't put him there.
I think of him as my eyes.
I think of him as a cowboy.
Really?
Yeah, same.
Oh, I go Atlanta Hawks.
Yeah, I do too.
Well, he didn't play with Atlanta Hawks.
I'm sorry, Atlanta Falcons.
Yeah, they're both birds.
See your eyes, dude, just playing tricks on you.
They're both birds.
I think of Dionne Sanders, football, cowboys, baseball braves,
even though that was the same time he played with Atlantic as he could do both.
Yeah.
But Dionne Sanders at number five.
At number six, Tom Brady.
Nice.
I admire consistency, first of all.
I admire consistency and greatness at the same time, most of all.
it's so hard to be consistent
impossible to be consistently great
now that doesn't mean every year
but dude won seven freaking Super Bowls
he's pretty consistent
that he was consistently in the mix
to be in the mix
to win a title every year
so as I'm watching him
I rooted for Peyton Manning every time they played each other
but as I've gotten older
in the latter years of Tom Brady
being an adult and just seeing
how consistent, how thorough he was with the things that weren't even football, the eating, the
training, developing his own system for him, the flight. I got to admire that. Consistency is currency to me
in every part of my life. And so Tom Brady comes in at number six for that. It's not even that I'm a
fan. I like the Patriots too when they were winning. Not that I was a Patriots fan, but I just admired
how they consistently cheated. Yeah, they did. I think you're, no, one, consistently won. Is that
Yeah, no, I did. I do like, and they were always in the mix to be in the mix, even when they weren't.
Even when Brady goes down and Castle goes in. Yeah. They didn't make the playoffs, but it was the very
last game of the season after they had already played when they realized they didn't make the playoffs.
They had won 11 games that year. Yeah, 11 and 5. So Tom Brady at number 6. Our list are so different,
again, because I don't have a team. Yeah. And minor for like very personal, like human, like the two left-handed
quarterbacks, the Arkansas guy.
And so far, a lot of quarterbacks.
Mostly quarterbacks. The two get shown the most.
Patrick Mahomes at seven.
There we go. And I could put that back on the Brady.
That's the junior varsity Brady version of that.
And I like Patrick Mahomes too because he has a little belly.
Yeah, he kind of makes us feel.
Now he looks like a warrior.
I said this last year when he lost. Like, you didn't piss him off.
He's going to train this off season and be physically better than he's ever been.
If you've seen pictures of him, have you?
No, I don't Google that.
Oh, my God.
He looks like a soldier.
Really?
Yeah.
You know, with their uniforms on now, with their rib pad thing, you know, around their other kind of like midsection, kind of makes them all look a little.
It does.
Because that thing pokes out a little bit.
But him more than others, I feel like, for sure.
But if you look at Patrick Mahomes now and you see, like, his, it's not even camp time, but it is just off-season workouts, you can tell.
Physically, he's been motivated to be physical.
pretty wild. I love my homes.
Icky Woods at 8.
Oh.
Another Bengal.
In my Bengal days, I like that he would dance when he scored touchdown.
The shuffle. That's all it was about.
Do you remember those a commercial reason?
Like, I don't know, the last 10 years at the grocery store.
Maybe like a Geico commercial or something.
I don't remember, but he's buying meat.
Yeah.
He like drops a turkey or something, doesn't he?
Yeah, something like that.
So, and that's only because when I liked the Bengals, he was the running back that danced.
And I liked that.
That's cool.
Dude, and they used to wear these shoulder pads that were so big.
he looked like a monster coming at you.
As a running back?
Yeah.
Oh, just wait for my number 10 though.
At number nine, John Elway.
And here's why.
He won at the end, finally.
And I think that's pretty cool.
He hung in there and got himself a couple.
He went two?
Yeah, back to back.
Yeah, at the very end.
And then he walked out.
Good for him.
He's like, I'm done.
Like he was the guy.
Now remember, he too,
maybe the first player that was drafted,
and was like, I don't want to go play for that team.
I'll go play for the Yankees and baseball team.
Who was that one of the Broncos?
He got drafted by?
No, he did not get drafted by the Broncos.
Okay, so what team?
They ended up...
Colts?
Maybe.
Dang, that's ballsy.
Maybe.
Feels like it's the Colts.
Mm-hmm.
I think that one was still Baltimore.
And he was saying, you can draft me, but I'm going to go play baseball if you do.
And that later happened with Eli Manning and the Chargers when they drafted Eli
Manning.
So...
Yeah, it was a Colts.
Baltimore Colts.
Man, that quarterback class of like, you know,
John Elway and Dan Marino and
83, yeah.
Joe Montana, like crazy.
And at number 10, Mike Allstott.
Nice.
Yeah, big shoulder pads.
Huge shoulder pads.
And a white guy who was a running back
and you didn't see many white guys
that are running back so you're like, that looks weird.
You're like, he can't be that fast,
but he just ran through people.
He was a bull.
A white guy running back still looks funny.
I'm like, he ain't that good.
Even, even...
McCaffrey, man.
Well, McCaffrey, but even Arizona State.
Oh, yeah, yeah. Scataboo.
I'm like, I wouldn't draft him. He ain't that good. He's white.
I hold that against people. I hold that against him running back, but they're white.
Well, like Gepphart? Gephardt. No.
Yeah, Toby. Garhart. There you go.
Like Minnesota, Toby. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, and also Peyton Hillis, who was on the cover of Madden, but had like two or three really good years.
Like won me a fantasy league or two.
Never forget it.
I would never, never forget.
Awesome. It was awesome.
That was awesome.
So that's fun.
Who's your favorite of all time, Kevin?
Oh, come on.
Nah, I know you think probably Tom Brady, no problem.
That's too easy, though.
Like, honestly, my favorite football player of all time is Randy Moss.
I love Randy Moss.
And when he came to the Patriots, I was so happy.
Because as a kid watching him, he was like,
I remember being in the yard and be like,
oh, you just got Moss?
And I tried to make a catch-over for somebody.
So Randy Moss was my favorite football player of all time.
I mean, my kids still say you got Mossed.
Because it's now a thing that they do on SportsCenter.
Yeah, but it's great.
Because, I mean, I feel like it'll last forever.
Because my kids have no idea who Randy Moss is.
I have no idea what he did, who he played for.
But whenever they get Moss, they're like, oh, you got Moss.
Yeah, I think even if you don't know Randy Moss existed, that has now been turned into what that.
It's like, you can't shoot a paper wand to the trash can without yelling.
Kobe.
Kobe.
Even if we don't know it's Kobe Bryant.
It's like, I think if I shoot at the trash can, I, I, you know, I,
just yell Kobe.
I want to play a clip for you here.
So NBA Guard,
I used to play Jeremy Lamb,
was on this podcast called Run Your Race.
This is so interesting.
And so
Kevin Martin played for the Thunder,
Kings.
And what I think is so interesting about him
is that,
and I didn't know this until I watched it,
he kind of was really good,
but he didn't want to be too good.
And then I'm like,
well, why doesn't it be too good?
Listen to this clip.
Again, this is Jeremy Lamb talking about Kevin Martin back in the day.
I got traded with what's the name?
Kevin Martin says like the second quarter and say he got like 19 points.
He'll look up and be like, I got too many points.
I'm sitting there like, what?
What you mean?
You got too many points.
He's like, I got too many points.
If I keep scoring, then they're going to make me an all-star.
I want my time to myself.
And I'm sitting there like, what?
Yeah, because when you become the main guy,
you got a lot of obligations.
He didn't want to go have to do All-Star Weekend.
It's a whole week.
He's like, and then they talked because he played with like Durant on that OKCD.
Yeah, James Hardin.
Yeah, and he would be scoring a lot.
It's like, ah.
It's so unheard of.
Yeah, crazy.
It's wild.
It feels like in other elements.
The guy that played Lincoln, Mike, the method actor.
Daniel Day Lewis.
Yeah, like dude just goes and lives like some.
Like A Lincoln.
Small, but even as not even as an actor.
He just like lives in some.
small shack all the time.
You know, he doesn't want to be so famous.
And you can't call him by his real name.
You have to call him Abraham Lincoln.
Whenever he's method acting.
But he doesn't want to be so famous so he doesn't do a lot of massive.
He just wants to do his.
And he's so good.
Has his career.
He doesn't want to be so famous that it gets in the way of his career where he can't live a life
because of his career the way he like to live it.
Same thing here with Kevin Martin.
He don't want to be that good.
He was that good.
But he didn't want to be so good that he would then have to lose his time for All-Star Weekend.
We'd have to be the face of the franchise.
More photo shoots.
So he's like, I'm just going to be so good that gets me through it.
I'm still considered a big part of the team.
Going to have a job.
Going to get paid well.
But I don't want to be that good.
I respect that.
You got to respect that.
I respect it.
I'm not that.
I'd rather have the All-Star label.
And all of it.
And I want to go to All-Star weekend.
But even the baseball players that we know, they would be like, man, All-Star game sucks.
It's fun the first time because you're like, wow, but you just, your body hurts, you want the time off.
You just kind of don't want to have to go do it, but you don't play lesser so you don't have to do it.
I was kind of blown away by that.
That's really cool.
That's pretty funny.
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Because they watch the draft?
No.
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