The Bobby Bones Show - 25W: Ranking the Sexiest Coaches Available for the Cowboys + 5X NFL Executive of the Year Scott Pioli

Episode Date: January 24, 2025

As the Cowboys continue to search for their new head coach, Eddie ranks the coaches they have been rumored to possibly hire in terms of how sexy it would be. Plus, 5X NFL Executive of the Year, Scott Pioli joins Bobby to talk about interviewing for a head coach while they're still in the playoffs, traits of a successful player, and much more!    Scott Pioli Twitter Download the DraftKings Sportsbook App today: https://dkng.co/bobbysports   If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/MI/NJ/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/NH), 888-789-7777/visit http://ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 1-877-770-STOP (7867) (LA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), call/text TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA).   21+ (18+ WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/LA/MI/NJ/ NY/PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. N/A in NH/OR/ON. New customers only. Valid 1 per new customer. Min. $5 deposit. Min $5 wager. $200 issued as eight (8) $25 free bets. Ends 9/19/22. See http://draftkings.com/sportsbook for details.     Follow the Show: @BobbyBonesSports   Follow the Crew: @MrBobbyBones @ProducerEddie @KickoffKevin @MikeDeestro @ReidYarberry  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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He gets sadder as the show goes. Because we're basically... Oh, you notice that? Yeah. We're basically afternoon now. And Eddie's starting to get kind of saddened down. And I heard someone say, what's up? And he goes, my perkinset's wearing off.

Yeah, the pain pills are just starting to come down, man. And it hurts. It's like, like, all morning, it feels, you know, like something's not right, but it doesn't hurt. And then when it starts wearing... down, like you start feeling a little pulsating about my elbow. The throbbing in the arm. Then you realize like, man, it's time for another dose.

Do you have the doses with you? I don't. They're at home. Are you driving yourself in? No, I got a ride. Tim's still driving you in? Oh, nice. What's the doctor?

Mainly because I drive a stick. I can't. You don't need an excuse. I figured it to me because you're on Percocet. If that's the case, I would just skip out and then take it while I'm here and then drive home. Got it. How many can you take a day?

Every six hours? Do you look forward to that? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this is the stuff that people get like hooked on, right? For sure. Yeah. I mean, but it doesn't make me feel like, yeah, I want to party.

It makes me feel like I just want to go to bed and like just chill. But I just chill is a feeling that people chase. That's smoking weed, right? I never smoke weed, but I'm assuming you smoke weed. You're just like, hey, I just want to chill. I don't think it makes you want to party. But then afterwards, you feel all groggy and moody. I had to take percassette.

I had dry sockets in my mouth once I had my wisdom to be taken out. Miserable. Like three months of just, it was torture. And I had to take practice up for that. And I liked them so much that at one point I dumped it on the toilet because I liked them so much. Wow. I feel that?

Did that was, yeah. It was Reed. Calling to cancel his draft king because he was winning so much. That's responsible. Yeah, exactly. You're responsible gambler. Well, we're rooting for you, buddy. But then did you also?

hear read like hey you got any extras I did not hear I'm joking come on I did not hear I say that a couple things as we start to show I'm seeing more and more rumors about the NFL taking the fourth or the onside kick and making it basically

a fourth and 20 we saw the outside kick last week too I think that's a great idea like you want the ball back convert a fourth and 20 at least there is an opportunity there they said it was a what a good opportunity I wouldn't say

good. I'd say more than 5%, but I wouldn't say 1 and 4. I'd say less than 25%. Because like what's the percentage on an on an onside kick the way it is now? So they said 5% this season. That's nothing. And I felt like that was high. I was going to say that seems high. Because I never see them recovered. I'm sure they do

in games that I miss. But if you see an onside kick recovery, that's amazing. I was like a dodo bird. It's a rare dodo you see running down the road. I like that. And I think that's an XFL-ish type rule. and the kickoff rule that they had changed this year,

it has changed me in no way whatsoever. I don't hate it, I don't love it. It's how I felt about the kickoff. And they can at least say, look, we're doing things to keep people from getting concussions. It's not a stupid rule they've put in, but also it's not made the game like way more fun. But I think the benefit of that kickoff rule is

the NFL can go look at what we're doing to prevent forest fires and concussions. Like smoky. Yes. And the fourth and 20 is aware, where you would normally, normally kick the ball off? It doesn't matter because I don't know

that you get the ball at that spot. So I don't know because the rule is not there. It very well could be, but my point is I don't know that it's that spot because if you throw a touchdown or you get to the five yard line, you get to keep it at the five. Probably not.

They got to tweak that. I would think that it just goes back to some normal midfield-ish type line because that's where an onsite kick would be recovered. So that's the first thing I read. I think that would be a great move. So second thing,

the Cowboys coach maybe shot in Heberdardardardard. I know. That's stupid. I saw that too and I'm like, it's not sexy. It's not exciting. Sexy's not always exciting. Sexy's not always great.

I don't know why it's that sexy, but you know what I mean. His damn pills. He's not very sexy. Like Dion, I guess that would be considered sexy because it's out like a pick that would be like, whoa, are you serious? Dionne Prime Time is going to be the coach

of the Dallas Cowboys. Cowboys, but Schottenheimer. Brian, is that his name? Yeah, and he's the OC now. He's the OC now, but he didn't even call plays. That part's kind of weird. McCarthy called all the plays with his Waffle House menu.

And I would think that it would be weird, weird that the OC that gets the head coaching job wasn't the play caller, except for that McCarthy is a really great play caller. Like, that's what he's known for. And also, if you're the OC under somebody who's really great at what they do, I'm sure that you're picking up some stuff, too. Not that he needed it. But if they came today. And they may say this.

We record this Thursday afternoon. And then it loads at midnight on Friday. But let's say tonight or Friday, Chattonheimer's the coach. Your thoughts. Another waste of season. I don't think Brian, I mean, Brian's already been there, right?

So I don't think it's going to change anything. I don't think you're going to be looking at a whole different Dallas Cowboys team. I think it's just going to remain the same thing. We're just going to kill another year of football. And I don't like it. Well, it would be more than a season, though. If he's a head coach, you're talking. Three, four seasons lost.

That's a whole presidential term. It is. What do you think? I think when things are really, I use your word, sexy and exciting, usually that's just short-term fun and not long-term greatness. So I'm not saying

that Brian Schottenheimer is the answer, but sometimes those hires where you're like, who, what, when? like it's really smart people making those decisions maybe Jerry's allowing other people to come in and help him with this I don't hate it because it's so

take your lunch pail to work decision that a lot of times those work out I don't see this being a disaster if he's the coach I think the floor is higher but I don't know where the ceiling is with him at all. I just feel like if Brian was the dude,

they would have made him the OC and he would have had FaceTime. I mean, I forgot that Brian Schottinheimer was the O.C., honestly. Yeah, I forgot it would look like until I just looked them up. I think, again, if it's almost any coach

other than McCartney, he's calling plays. So I wouldn't take that as, man, he must not be that good. Because you had one of the greatest play callers, offensive NFL minds calling plays. So, listen, if I were a Cowboys fan,

I would want something exciting and sexy. Even like when you said Cliff Kingsbury, I'm like, God, that's cool. That would be cool. That's kind of sexy. That's pretty sexy, and he's kind of sexy. Okay. The ladies like him. If we're sexy, oh yeah, I know somebody who looked up with him for a while.

Shut up. I can't tell you, I can't tell you right here. Oh, that's a bond, dude. I know, I can't, I can't tell you right. It's been a while. It's been a while. So nothing, I don't know. what his personal life has now. I've been married with kids out and it's been a long time. Okay, okay. I can tell you out there. Okay.

So, sexy meter, Dion 1. Very sexy. Cliff 2. Cliff 2 is very sexy. Who's a 3? I mean, not in the traditional sexy way, but I think the third sexiest coach for the Dallas Cowboys could be Riverboat Ron. No.

I don't think he's sexy. I think he is somebody you bring in to play. plug a hole to create some stability. Have they talked to Romo? About what? Coming back? Here we go, Jim. Because that'd be awesome.

I don't know if they've talked to Romo. Wild. Now that's sexy. We've talked about three. He's still coaching right now. I feel like he'd be on your list. He's still coaching right now. Who?

Offensive coordinator. A Kellyn Moore. Yeah. Who would you rather have Kellemore or Brian Cornelia Schottenheimer? Is it? Cornelian. That's legit. I guess I'd have

Kellan Moore. I feel like I know more of his work. But I think that's why, and that's the answer, right? That's why you want him because you know more about him. It doesn't mean that you know or you feel like he's actually better based on it. So, yeah, it's a lunch pal hire if he does. What a mess. So Brian Chautenheimer

O.C. for the Seahawks, the Jets, the Rams. University of Georgia was an assistant coach with the Redskins, Chargers, Colts, and Jaguars. His dad is... 51 years old. Marty. Marty? Marty was the coach of Broncos?

They were the San Diego Chargers. Oh, Chargers. They always, like, fell short every season. That's good. That's kind of where Chargering came from. That's really good. Well, good luck to you, my friend. Yeah, thank you, man.

We'll wait and see. Hopefully some of those sexies come in. I hope people watch a little bit of Chiefsaholic because it's interesting and the Chiefs are still in it and it's the guy that robbed the banks. What about the Aaron Rogers documentary? Yeah, man, that keeps popping up. Me too.

You know, like you hover over the thumbnail and then they show the little clip or whatever. And I watched it a day and look at my wife, I'm like, should we watch this? And she was like, that's kind of interesting because she knows Jordan Rogers and she knows him. I mean, I'm from The Bachelor. Oh, okay. Well, that's the difference. That knows of Jordan Rogers. Yeah.

No, my wife doesn't know Jordan Rogers. Well, that's how you said. Yeah. But no, also like just kind of the whole story of them being, you know, having family fights or whatever, him not getting along with the family. So we thought about it, but I can't. I can't pull the trigger on it. I don't know if I can take, what is it? Two hours of Aaron Rogers.

Same. That's why I can't, I don't like Aaron Rogers. And by the way, I used to like Aaron Rogers a lot. I think when we started this podcast this season, I was like, well, it's going. But he's, he's sufferable. So has anyone watched it? I started it. And I got 10 minutes in, and it's just boring.

You quit Chiefsaholic, though, and you. Yeah, because I hate the Chiefs, too. But I don't hate Aaron Rogers. We're not starting this again. We're not hard starting this again. I don't hate Aaron Rogers, but it's just, it was just boring. I don't know. It was just him being Aaron Rogers.

bit, you know? I kind of pitied him a little bit. It's like a lost 40-year-old guy that's just like taking ayahuasca and trying to find the meaning of life. I pity Chiefsaholic. That guy? Yeah, I had pity for Chiefsaholic and he was robbing banks. I don't have any pity for Aaron Rogers. No, I don't have any pity. So, no, I don't think I'm going to watch it. It's one of those documentaries that I just, I didn't know I was going to watch Chiefsaholic. I didn't know I was going to watch the death of Steve McNair. Oh, I still need to watch that. That one was good. And it's only an hour. What about receivers? Have you watched that? Nah.

I didn't much... Quarterbacks was fine. It was a little too corny for me. And it was fine, and I'm glad I watched it. But it wasn't good enough that I wanted to watch, like, it's brother receivers. It got old. It got kickers. You're like, all right, I get it.

And unless you're like a diehard fan of one of those teams or quarterbacks, you don't really care. The only thing that I got out of quarterbacks was... that I liked a certain player, and the rest were just kind of like, okay, fine, I kind of already thought that. Then that player I liked was, who do we all like more from it? Kirk Cousin's.

Oh, Kirk Cousins for sure. I forgot who was even on it. And how his wife dresses him. Yeah, and Marriotto. Like, he was the guy that I was like, okay, I kind of like Kirk Cousins. I think that makes me root for him now. But the rest, but Mariotta was on it.

Yeah, he was likable. But he didn't really get to do much. No, yeah. He got benched or whatever. Yeah. So, but no, I didn't watch receivers. Have you watched right tackles? No, but I didn't watch kickers.

That's on Fubo. Hunters. Special teamers. It's on Fubu. Or no one, it's, Toibu. Tube. Tube. There is two, like, I saw a TikTok of like Lamar Jackson talking to Mark Andrews.

And I'm like, what's this from? And apparently there's a hard knocks in season. Yeah. On the entire division. Oh, that's right. I knew that. Yeah. I didn't watch it and I didn't remember it, but we did talk about the entire

division. I don't, because I think it's on HBO or whatever, whatever it is, I don't have it. Probably, yeah, Max. Yeah, Max. Yeah. But that's a man, that's such a quick turnaround. It's like a week to week thing, yeah.

Have you never seen Hard Knocks? I have. Even like training camp, it's a week out. I get it, but I mean, that's the only hard knocks I watch, the preseason one. Yeah. But I forgot that there was an end season

and they're literally talking about what happened two days ago. I hear you. And the end season is different because it is, but it's the same time difference is the camps. No, I get it. And even with the camps, I was like, gosh, that's a quick turnaround.

For such a high-quality show like that, it's pretty impressive. Now, that I agree with. It's like, Reed, we're video dudes. Like, how quick are they turning that around? Yeah, I don't, dude, I don't even understand how they eat or sleep or anything like that. What are you talking about now? What? I mean, quick turnaround, like the editors and stuff.

Okay, got it. I didn't know who he was talking about. Yeah. It's pretty impressive. Players, coaches. Everybody, man. I wonder how big their staff is, though. They're editing staff, producing stuff.

And they're noting it on the fly. And they also know what they're looking for on the fly. It's different than a reality show where they'll have people do stuff. But if they want to focus on certain players, they'll go and they're looking for something that they can plug into spots. Like, we got it. Lamar did this. This is going to go. Like they're having to plant it as they go, which is pretty cool.

It is why it can be turned over so quick. Yeah, but you're right. It's quick. I just felt like it's a shock to you that was week to week. And I was like, that's every. It's just a different part of the year. I just forgot that there was an in-season hard knocks. Because if it's not before the season starts, I ain't watching it.

So are we building a parley? Mike? No, I'm going to have to. See, here's the thing. No, here's the thing. I suck at parley's. And I'm happy to do one and everybody can bet it and lose. Okay.

But do you mind, though, your pictures on it and your faces on it? That's even worse. Yeah, I know. Because then I lose. But there are other things I like to do. I like people to go to drive kings. I feel really good about certain things. Like I hit, I didn't bet the commanders last week, that money line,

the commanders and Detroit. I didn't bet that at all, the spread. The other three I hit, hit all three of them. I didn't miss championship games, feeling pretty good. Oh, another day and a half. They'd kick that field goal. So dumb. So I feel pretty good about just going like, here's one or two.

But I think when I like stack three, that's tough. It's a little greedy. Yeah, other people are great at it. For me, then I'm just like not even for sure about a third one. Not for sure about anything. I'm not even for sure about a third one, but I'm like, let me just throw one in. And that's usually what sinks the boat, you know?

But, okay, I like betting on touchdowns. I feel pretty good about touchdowns. Yeah. Touchdown score? Yeah, that's fun. Place a $5 pre-game bet on an offensive player to find the end zone. And what's cool is, draft kings, if they have the longest rushing or receiving touchdown that day, they're the king of the end zone,

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I love Scott Pioli. I'm going to set them up here. Five-time NFL executive of the year. Three-time Super Bowl champion. Scott Piole. Kevin loves him too. Different reasons. Of course. He was glowing while you were talking to him. He was like nodding along with him.

Like, he was like a big Patriots guy. Scott, a major part in building the Patriots in early 2000s. Then he became the GM of the Chiefs in 2009. Work for the Falcons. He does work with the NFL now. Catch him on NFL network as an analyst as well. And we'll put his social media up in our notes as well if you want to follow him. Here he is Scott Pioly.

my favorite executive of all time, and even my company, my favorite executive of Scott Pioly. I'm telling you, I'm, no, you know it's true. I love Scott Pioly for many reasons. And so to have you on, to ask you these questions, I am so excited about it. So thank you for spending a little bit of time with us. No, thank you. And thanks for having me. I tell you, when Erica reached out, I was really excited. So thank you very, very much for having me back. It's, no, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Mitty-gritty time. What is it like to interview a coach that you kind of already know what they're about? Like, what happens in that room, Scott, that you don't know that you need to figure out? You know, it depends really on how well you know them, not just as a football person, not just as a

team builder and coach, but as a person. So, you know, there are a couple different situations in terms of interviews circumstances I've been involved with. And when you know someone, it's a little bit easier, right? But it's easier for you, but maybe sometimes tougher for them because because you know them, they don't know where it's going to go. Because when you're sitting in there, you're sitting in with an owner. You're sitting in with other people that are going to help you make the decision because it's never just one person that makes the decision. So it's, and you don't, I was never in a situation where I would want to give that person

the answer to the questions, if that makes sense. So the most important thing you have to be careful is if you know someone that you don't miss important topics and questions that need to be. that you're going to be asking for other candidates, if that makes sense. How much of an interview is culture? How much is scheme? And is it different regarding who the person is? That's a fascinating question, Bobby, because to me, the least amount of time should be spent on scheme.

Because most people that ascend to a position of having an opportunity to be a head coach, they've got a scheme. They've done something in their former job. usually a coordinator, you know, where they know the scheme, they have their scheme. And the truth is this. I think that there's, you know, I coached for four years before I became an evaluator and a scout and then a front office person. And I played all of my life up until that.

So I knew the game. But I also know that coaches know the game on a different level than many of us that are in other areas. And I say this because I think that there's a lot of people that get into those situations. those circumstances where they know a little bit and they think that they know more than they do. So asking a coach about scheme, too many questions. You can ask generic questions, but you don't want to dive deep into it. Most of the time is more spent on culture.

I think it's spent on relationships because the most important part of the scheme that you have to understand is the base elements so you can go out and find players. And regardless of the power structure and the hierarchy and that stuff doesn't matter. because the moment that the head coach is hired, I'm a firm believer that the general manager, vice president, player, personal, whatever that person is, they automatically become a servant to the coach to go and find the players that fit their scheme and fit their personality. Not people that are the same personality, but are actually that are personality types that can follow the type of leadership that comes in. I give a great example is when I was the assistant general manager working under Thomas Dimitroff,

our general manager at the Falcons, the players that Dan Quinn was looking for schematically were not only different, but they were different personality and makeup type players that were for Dan Quinn versus Bill Belichick, for instance. Are there times where, and it's interesting you brought that up because that was what I was curious about, are there times where guys come in and you know who your personnel is? I mean, Kayla Williams would be an example now whenever Ben Johnson's coming, whomever it's going to be, you know that's the quarterback. So you're looking for a coach that is going to be able to utilize the personnel that you have versus there could be a coach that's going to come in and just go, we're going to start over, start from scratch.

Like both of those are options when talking to certain coaches, right? Yeah, they are both options. And I think that's where you have to leave your personal ego at the door because if you're going to, you plan on entering these head coaching relationships for the long term. And if you try to fit your head coach into a certain scheme or certain specifications of what your old staff was, that's not fair to the person that you're trying to hire. And really what you have to do is go out and hire the best person available, the best coach, the best teacher, the person who's best at player development. And some of the best players can play regardless of the scheme they can play. But the thing is, really good coaches can take players and accentuate the positive and limit the limitations because every player has limitations. So sometimes it really needs to be a combination of those two things.

And you can't get rid of good players that are hard workers just because you have to find a way to meld those two things together, but not be stuck in. I think you may be setting a relationship up for a problem. These are the guys that I drafted before. These are the guys that I brought in. So I've got to find Coach X that has these little, these certain things and force your program to go in a situation that you think is best because it makes your life more comfortable than doing what's best for the organization. I think what would be difficult too, but also put a ribbon on the lions

because they were so good that both coordinators go and take head coaching jobs, right? You got D.C. going to the Jets. O.C. going to the Bears. They both have their own teams now. but now you're a head coach and also you have all the executives there and you're trying to find an offensive coordinator and a defensive coordinator at the same time. That seems like that would be tough. Yeah, you know, attrition is one of the pitfalls of great success. You know, and when you have success, there will be attrition, natural attrition.

But it's both a blessing and a curse, right? When those people are leaving, that means you've done something well. But here's what's important, I think, is Dan Campbell has a real. really strong reputation and people want to work with and for Dan. But whether they have great alignment, I believe in that organization is Brad Holmes, their general manager, and some of the people that are helping, you know, Sheila does an amazing job of letting people do their job. She doesn't act like she knows things that she doesn't know, but she does have an important amount of intelligence and leadership ability. And then you look through the rest of the organization.

There's folks like Mike Disner. There's folks like, you know, Chris Spielman, who, are important, Ray Agnew, they have a lot of really good people in an organization. And Brad Holmes, who's the leader as the general manager and the personnel side, he and Dan are completely aligned on the types of players that they want to bring in and that they're trying to bring into their program. So that is going to make the talent acquisition. I always talk about things in terms of, you know, people always focus so much on player evaluation and player acquisition. Really, it's about talent. Because if you're building something, that's going to last, and you're thinking about your entire football operation.

You're thinking about talent in terms of coaches, your football operations people, your support staff. So that idea of talent identification, talent acquisition, and talent development and retention, Brad and Dan are aligned. So my guess is that, yeah, it's going to be a hit, but they've got some people that are looking to work there and or that they can elevate from within. I wear a bunch of hats, if it's radio or TV or podcasting or books or whatever. I have to hire people all the time for all different jobs. And I was explaining to

the guys. And it started with the Rooney rule of how important I think it is, even if you don't hire someone to get a lot of people in the room because it's not even about that moment right there. It's about a relationship, maybe begins. And you learn about them and their maturation as a coach or an employee in my world. They're not there yet, but man, they are on a trajectory to and you kind follow along and it builds for later. And I've hired so many people a year after an interview for a different job, two years after. So will you talk about that in terms of what you do when you interview coaches that probably aren't going to get the job? Well, I love this, but it's not just head coaches, right? It's assistant coaches. Not that, you know, I ever hired assistant coaches, but I was

around and in a part of that. And Bobby, I love that you're bringing this up because really what's happening in the football world, it's the same in your industry, right? You want to get the right people that have talent, but they have more than just, you know, we always talk about height, weight, speed, but talent comes in different packages. And you talk about the Rooney Rule. And I just want to touch on this. The importance and the value of diversity is so critical, because people sometimes get so myopic when they hear the idea of diversity or the Rooney Rule. And they see this as something that is just color. They literally see it as black and white. But the Rooney Rule, and they see this. The the purpose and the reason for diversity and bringing in diversity and diverse hiring is,

is not just, in addition to what it looks like, people come from different backgrounds and different cultures. They bring with them different thoughts, ideas. And we all have this thing called implicit bias, right? And they're bringing these ideas and these thoughts. What you're looking for is diversity of thought, diversity of action. And when you spend time with people in these interviews, sometimes the timing isn't right for whatever reason. Sometimes you don't have the appropriate job for a person. But I can tell you for sure, you know, I think about someone like Monty Austin Ford, right, who's now the GM of the Cardinals. Monty came in. I interviewed him. We didn't hire him immediately. The next year went back to him. And this was for a scouting assistant

position. And then Monty came to us. He worked for us. And then he left. But then he came back because the circumstances and the situation that has to be this marriage of circumstances being right. I always talk about player development and quarterback development being circumstantial, right? It takes a village. And there's often been very talented quarterbacks to come into this league that are brought into the wrong circumstance of development, whether it's the head coach, whether it's the staff, whether it's the culture, whether it's the talent around that person. they don't get the chance to develop.

And I know this is related to the exact question that you were asking is making sure that you're bringing people in under the right set of circumstances so you can develop them. One of my friends, we now work together for NFL. They hired us together, is Matt Castle. And I was talking to Matt literally yesterday. He was at the house. And so it's super cool. NFL hired us.

We do a show together. And first of all, it's annoying because he's like tall and good looking. and like every, he got all the traits. But he was talking. I asked him, I said, who on your headstone, like who would be your team? Because he had the Patriots, he had the Chiefs, and then he had a couple bounce arounds. And he said, it would be the Patriots because here's a guy, and he said this, that never started in college, and was drafted and was kept around by an organization and then given a chance. And that chance, he won 11 games that year and was able to go, yeah, to go.

yeah, to go and you ended up trading him to Kansas City because there was value there, and you had your quarterback back. So what would you say about Matt Castle? What did you see in him? Because again, not just about Matt, but why a quarterback that's never played? What did you identify within him? I love this question, and I love this person. First of all, Matt, I adore Matt, and his family, right?

And, you know, so here's the thing. We had a scout out there who, I was out at USC. And he said, you know, and they had had, during Matt's time, they had back-to-back Kizman trophy winners, two quarterbacks. They was a liner and- Reggie Bush. Or was it? Was it?

A quarterback. I mean, starting ahead of him. Got it, got it. There was this guy that Matt Russell, who was our West Area Scout, had brought him up. He mentioned him. And then another scout mentioned to just, you know, just brought him up. Wow, they got so much talent there. And here's the thing about programs like that.

USC at that point in time had backups who could play in the NFL and should have been drafted. I mean, heck, you know, Clay Matthews, the third, didn't, he sat the bench for four years, didn't play until his senior year. But I remember being there at practice. And I was watching the quarterback's throw. And I'm watching this guy Castle who was a senior. And I was like, that guy's interesting. He had the prototype body, looked good, you know, in terms of quarterback, which you're looking for through the ball well. and he had this really good energy about him.

Then as practice starts, this guy's wearing like one of those pullover pennies on the kickoff coverage scout team. He's doing anything and everything. And then at their pro day, he threw. And we're like, we're firm believers in player development and the value of drafting a quarterback, trying to draft a quarterback every year

to bring in and develop because you never know what you're going to be able to develop and do are fine. In Matt, we found a guy who was smart, who was dedicated, who loved the game, willing to do anything and everything. And we said, well, you know, at worst, this guy might be able to be a really good backup quarterback. That's what we thought of him coming out. Draft him in the seventh round. And you're right, he becomes a starter when Brady gets hurt. He helps us to win 11 games and traded for him.

And people, I think Matt ended up doing 14 or 15 years in the league. And when he was in Kansas City. When Charlie Weiss was our coordinator, that year, Matt threw for 27 touchdowns and only seven interceptions, went to the Pro Bowl, and we won the division. Matt was also, here's why I say Matt's really smart. Matt was acutely aware of what he could do and what he couldn't do. He trusted the coaches around him when he was at his best, he trusted the coaches around him to put him in a position to succeed and not fail. And I know that sounds so basic and generic, but players aren't always put in a position

in order for them to succeed. And when Matt was put in that position, he had a great deal of success. So I know Matt's going to hear this, and I hope he's going to, whatever, he's going to hear it. So I'm going to compliment him and it's annoying because Matt's my friend. And it's weird to compliment your friends openly and outwardly.

Whenever we started to work together, and I'm wondering if this is a trait with successful quarterbacks is where I'm getting. Matt was like, hey, I want to get good at this. And I was like, cool. Everybody says they want to get good at everything. It's easy to say you want to get good at something. It's hard to actually put in the work and take the critique or the criticism that leads

to positivity afterward because some people don't have the stomach or the skin for it. And so, you know, I will evaluate. I will go and I did all this work on game tape, I call it, like our shows. I evaluated everything. I was doing Matt was doing. like here's how we're going to grow, here's what we did. And I sent him this whole report. And he afterward, we had finished working and we're just walking and talking. And he was like, man, I appreciate that so much. I read this. I'm going, man, this, if this is like the successful

quarterback way of working, I need to have more successful quarterback friends because he just wanted to learn. He took, it wasn't criticism. It could have been taken as that. But it was what I saw as tools for growth and like within like 12 hours he was doing everything that was written there for him and so Bobby I'm saying

we could talk about this for hours you are nailing it's going back to what I was talking about making sure that you have the right people and in the situation in the circumstance and the culture in which you're going to develop them at the New England Patriots we knew what we were right

we were we it was uncomfortable it was emotionally draining it times. It was a lot. We were a lot. And we understood that there was a certain type of makeup and mentality and emotional and mental endurance that was necessary. We knew Matt had that. And we intentionally looked out for players. Again, we looked for prototypical skills, tools, all of that stuff. But there was a certain type of makeup that was required. And you are nailing it when you talk to Matt. You sent him that. It's, it's not, you're right, he's not thin skin. And because you can't survive, never mind survive, but you can't develop and survive in that

program the way it is wrong or right, fair, unfair. That's what the program is. We had to find certain people. I love that you're telling that story because that was one of the things about Matt. There were times where it could get too rough, and I saw that happen to him at times where, you know, that's a very fine line between critique and criticism and over-the-top criticism. And there were times, you know, over his career at different teams, I saw it, you know, it got too much at times. And he would pull back, but he received that.

And you tell him that story about him. Those are the type of people that you look for because I don't think anyone hires someone. You're not bringing him on as a partner to make his life uncomfortable or unhappy, right? You want to succeed together. So when you're giving him feedback, you're really doing it not just for him. him but for the greater good. Yeah, and I wondered, is that a trait of the most successful, I won't even say quarterbacks, but NFL players?

Wow. Some of the most successful that I've been around. And again, at the Patriots, at the Chiefs, those were the type of personalities and the makeup that we had to hone in on. You know, again, under Dan Quinn, there was a different stuff. style equally as effective. Dan's a great coach. And I love Dan. Dan approaches things and his staff approach things a little bit differently. So we didn't have to focus on that as much. Now, I'll say this though. They had to be equally as tough and equally as smart as what we

looked for at the Patriots. That's for sure. Players coach versus the non-player's coach. Is that even a thing anymore? I honestly never understood the players coach thing, right? because you ask different people, it means different things. Back in the day when I used to hear people say a player's coach, those players were the type of people who didn't want to be held accountable, right? It was, but I think it has a different, I think it has a different definition now. And I think it's just they're looking for someone to be more relatable and more, again, what the word is deemed to be respectful. not that it wasn't respectful and passed. But I think I always have to figure out when I hear someone say they like a players coach,

again, is that someone who's saying they're being respectful or they're not holding me accountable? How do you feel about assistants interviewing while they're still in the playoffs? It's, you know, I think it's a bad thing. And here's what I'll say is it's the blessing and the curse. Because at the years of the Patriots, we were constantly getting. getting requests for coaches to be interviewed. Same thing when, you know, when we were at the Falcons looking for DQ. DQ was in the, you know, we couldn't talk to him until afterwards.

But because he was with Seattle, it's a real distraction. But I don't know what the right answer is. We can sit here and say, well, we have to wait until after the playoffs. Well, if you wait after the playoffs, here's the reality. And we all know this. I mean, let's call it what is. There's going to be tampering. There are going to be people finding ways to circumvent and or break rules.

Even if they're not having direct contact with a candidate, all of these candidates have close friends. They have agents. They have people out there. They have touch points of people. So to me, I don't know what the right answer is. I think if we do something where we wait until everyone has to wait until after the playoffs or the Super Bowl to be interviewed, we have to understand that rules are going to be broken. And as a league, we are going to have to be willing to enforce those rules.

because there are sometimes we've seen where rules are out there. They're not fully enforced. And then it becomes a charade. Three final questions. What's it like the week of the Super Bowl for the head exec? Because I know what it's like for a player. I've talked to them. Are you dialing in double or are you sitting back chilling double?

No, there's no chilling because you're working on the next season. You're still having draft meetings. Because when you get done at the Super Bowl, you know, it's, February and this whole idea and concept that coaches are involved, if you're in the Super Bowl, coaches don't see, they don't see prospects that you're going to draft in April. They don't see them until February, right? Because as soon as the season's over, they also get a week off or two weeks off, not the head coach, but the assistant coaches. So you're still, you're preparing for free agency. You're preparing a plan for the salary cap. You're preparing a plan

for the draft. This way, when the season, I'll never forget after our first Super Bowl, Belichick and I are flying back, we're flying back for New Orleans and we're huddled up together because that was the year, actually they were, I want to say it was the year before the Texans came in. We were having to, we had just won the Super Bowl, we were heading back to Boston, and here we were trying to decide on the six players that we were going to put out there as being players that were available for the expansion draft. And there's always work to be done. If you're an executive or a front office person and you're chilling before the Super Bowl,

I mean, the senior bowl is going to be, you know, the AFC championship, NFC championship or this weekend, the Senior Bowl is going on. I'm right down here at the East West right now. I'm leaving from here to go to the Senior Bowl. You're working on the future. And if you're, it's one of those things I look back retrospectively, so blessed to go to five Super Bowls. I look back at those times. Part of me says I wish I would have enjoyed those moments.

more. But quite honestly, if I was enjoying those moments, I would not have been serving my teammates, meaning the group that I worked with and the ownership and the fan base very well. All right. Final two questions. Who is your favorite? I should say most proud of draft pick. It wasn't a first rounder. But fourth, fifth rounder that ended up like you bet on them and it turned into the real deal. I can't give you a favor. That's like I say, I only have one child. So I can say who's favorite child. I can honestly say my daughter Mia is my favorite child. But it's like we were so fortunate there were so many different. I mean, the easy answer for everyone else says, oh, it has to be Brady who you drafted in the sixth round. Well, and not me specifically,

we drafted in the sixth round. But I think of guys like Dan Copen, you know, I think there were a lot, you just brought up Matt Castle. Here's a guy we drafted in the seventh round, had a 14-year career. I was a part of the group that drafted Grady Jarrett in the fifth round. I mean, I wish I'd have prepared for this, but there's, you know, David Givens, I was so proud of that guy. The list goes on and on. I mean, I know I'm not coming up with the name. Danny Copeland was a terrific one. I don't know how many folks remember Danny Copeland, but Center that was so important us, you know, at the Patriots and those championships.

You have seven names. You like, I don't have any names. You gave us plenty. That was, that was great. You are at the, you're at the Shrine Bowl. So you're in, it's in Dallas, right? You're at Jerry's World. That's where, so what do you do out there?

Like, what's the goal? So actually, I do some consulting work for the league. And part of what they asked me to do is they bring me down here and also the senior ball. And I spend time, I come down early. The players are arriving right now as we're speaking. But I spend time meeting with a lot of the coaches because there's a lot of young assistant coaches that they bring to the that coach these games.

And I'm here as a resource for them and to spend time with them because they all have aspirations to do something more. So I spend time visiting with them talking about the NFL, their future. A lot of questions I get. It's a little mentoring work. And quite honestly, I do get some folks that reach out as they're looking to hire people and they want to know some of the people. And I have, you know, I'm a scout. So I'm keeping my notebook over here and evaluating some of these people and how they run meetings. I sit in on meetings.

I listen to install. I listen to how they're interacting with players. I watch how they're interacting with players. But then I also spend time with players. So it's work that I do that's mentoring and helping these, you know, younger coaches build for their future. The final thing, the Family Fund for Women coaches and scouts. what so why why are you so passionate about this and I know this is very important to you kind of explain what it is yeah so I'll give you the background of how it started and I don't

do you remember Katie Sowers I do the coat are so so Katie um was our daughter's fifth grade basketball coach um that's how I got to know Katie and when we hired Katie uh at the Atlanta Falcons it was a I brought her as an intern that we were going to keep her on full time we offered her a job, but the salary wasn't enough because it was only going to be a one-year coaching thing. And she had home car payments in Kansas City, which is where she was living. And she needed help with living expenses if she was going to take this job. So my wife and I ended up paying for her apartment. And that year that she worked with us when we went to the Super Bowl.

And it was this thing that came into our mind. during this time because I'm going to be quite honest here. You know, when it's time for young men to get jobs, most coaches can say, hey, come stay at our place, come stay here. There's different perceptions of the circumstances when you say to a woman, hey, come stay at our house, right? It's one of the many, many things that is so unfair. So my wife and I decided to put endow this fund at the Women's Sports Foundation.

I'm on the board of the Women's Sports Foundation. Billy Jean King is a dear friend and mentor of mine. And this scholarship, or it's a grant, is in place for young women who are going to be coaches or scouts in the early part of their career that enables them to have an opportunity to take care of the bills that, you know, that living expenses. and helping pay for their rent because there are obstacles that they have that are different, that are different. And, you know, I look back, Jennifer King, you know, who's been a full-time coach in the NFL for years, she was one of our first recipients. You know, Jennifer, you know, was up at Dartmouth coaching for the late great buddy Teabins, and she was going to make $4,000 that fall. But she was able to get money in order to take that job. She was a head basketball coach, head women's basketball coach, at one in a nine.

an NAA championship, quit her job and wanted to coach ball. She needed help. So that's a large part of what this is for. And for more information, you guys, go to women's sports foundation.org. Scott, you're my favorite. Matt and I will be down to the Super Bowl in New Orleans if you're around. We'd love to see you. Oh, heck, yeah. We'll just be it. Well, you'll see us with the two really good-looking guys that are walking around, you know,

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Does everybody think the Eagles are going to? to win? Eddie may not. Well, I think that the Eagles will win, but I think commanders will cover. Okay, so is everybody straight up Eagles win? Yes. Okay, so for sure they'll lose. Great. Okay. It's like on game day when they all go Boston College.

And then if they all go, it's Eagles minus six, though. I think the Eagles also cover. Same. Eddie? I'm going to go Washington plus six. Reed. This is NFL. I think, yeah, oh, NFL? Okay. No, I'm going to go Eagles. Yeah, minus six.

Casey? Yeah, I think the Eagles are cover. And the big one, the main event. Come on, baby. Bill's at Chiefs. Chiefs are a point and a half favorite in Kansas City. Let's just go heads up, straight out. We don't need to do. That one and a half is so tight. Didn't even. Who wins the game, Kevin?

I'm going to go Bill's. Been going with them in the playoffs. I think it's Josh Allen's year. he's finally like settling down and playing not too out of control and he's going to get it done. Finally. I'm rolling Chiefs. I've learned never bet against the Chiefs. As a matter of fact, I've bet with the Chiefs every time. So I've not learned to not bet against

them. I've learned that if you bet with them, you win. You win. Yes. So I'm going Kansas City hard. It's going to be fun too if you go the Super Bowl and Kansas City's playing. That's pretty cool. So I'm going Kansas City. I will not touch the spread. I will bet money line regardless because it is so tight.

But I'm going Kansas City. Eddie? I'm like you, man. learn from your mistakes, and I've always just... I didn't make a mistake I can't do. No, but I've always said like, you know, Chiefs, come on. They've got to lose at some point. They've got to lose. But we've seen it over and over and over, man.

The Chiefs are going to win. All right, Chief Kingdom, baby. Chiefs Kingdom. That's my home. That's my home. I got it, got it. All right, two Chiefs won bills. Read.

Chiefs did good for me last year on the Super Bowl, so I'm going to stick with them. And they did good for you as you bet them? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Casey? Yeah, I mean, I think Mahomes is going to, you know, have two or three amazing plays that are going to, you know, decide this game. So Kansas City. Playoff wins. Patrick Holmes' second all-time. Tied with Joe Montana.

Crazy. With 16. Tom Brady has 35 playoff wins. Percentages, though. Patrick Holmes, 84% winning percentage in the playoffs. Tom Brady, 72. Kevin, you want to say something? Bigger samples, guys. A lot more games. Definitely. Yeah, but 16 and 3. A lot more games. It's a lot more games, yeah. I hear you. I love them both. I don't know, but I think my home's.

I'm just saying I love them both So a couple notes Before we jump out on today's show We are going No obviously not next week Because there is no game I guess the Pro Bowl games

But the Super Bowl is the next week So we will be in New Orleans And so far on the list I'll look at it earlier We have Emmett Smith Oh that's awesome Dion Sanders Let's go

Next coach Coach? By then you will know. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Can you imagine, dude, if he ends up being the coach and we get to talk to him?

Yeah, by then you will know. Oh, my goodness. So who else do we have confirmed? Braxton Berrios. Okay. Greg Olson. Greg Olson. Reggie Bush and Greg Olson.

You said Nico Collins. Nico Collins. That's pretty cool. Yeah, some of them waiting for final confirmation, but yeah, Nico Collins. And what about Jordan Peel? No, Key. he's doing our other show

okay yeah you can be there you'll be there I want to see that I think he's so funny or Keegan Michael yeah so that's going to happen so it's going to be a good trip one of you will not be able to go to the Super Bowl because I have four tickets for five people and that one of the four will be Kevin Mike

Reed or Eddie this has not been settled already I've not had any conversations outside of the show here's what we're going to do on Monday's show we will get it down to two people who will not be able to go and so we're

We are going to play a game on Monday's show of 25 whistles and we'll draw that who's playing who in the game. And if you lose, you aren't out, but somebody else is going to lose as well. And they're not out, but then they will play a game. And then that loser will be out. Losers brackets. And possibly it's going to be Connect 4 because I have the game here, but possibly not. I'm going to spend over the weekend looking at board games. It's not that squid game game that you bought.

Is it? Oh, God. They die. We have to pick somebody. I don't want someone going thinking. they get to go to the Super Bowl and they don't get to go. Oh my gosh. Okay?

Yeah. So we'll do that Monday show. By the way, roughing the passer on all quarterbacks, I don't know if you guys saw this or not as far as, what's up? Kevin's already, doesn't want to talk about this. Per 100 attempts called people that got the most roughing the passer calls. Matt Ryan was number one. This is all time?

Ryan Fitzpatrick at two, Russell Wilson at three, Stafford at four. Rogers at five. Wow. At six, Tannahill, at seven, Gaw. At eight, Josh Allen. Yeah. At nine, Cam Newton. And so now we're getting down to where.

So first of all, not even the top ten are Mahomes and Brady. Right. Well, one of them is in the top ten. They come into number ten. This is kind of destroying your theory a little bit. Who? Yours. No, it's not.

Not at all. Tana Hill. They're not trying to protect him. No. They're just killing him. Some of them decide to protect him. They're just like, he just gets killed because his office of line.

I'm surprised Cam Newton has that many, just because he was such a running quarterback. At number 10 is Tom Brady. Tom Brady got way more calls than Patrick Mahomes. But bigger sample size. Bigger sample size? And... No, it's per 100, so there's no sample size. Sample size is 100.

I got them. Yeah. This data, dude. Brady gets in the top 10, yeah. Do you have Wentz, Cutler, Rothusberger, Mahomes? Yeah. This list is all over the place. It sounds pretty easy.

It's not all over the place. It's... It doesn't matter. I'm just saying the names are all over the place. The names are all over the place. There's no pattern, definitely. That's what I'm saying. The names are all over the NFL quarterbacks who started.

You've never heard Ryan Tanehill and Tom Brady on the same list before. And two was not on there too either, huh? Well, he got roughed once. It was out three months. Got roughed once. It was out nine months. Poor guy. The last thing that I will say is when we can conclude on this, Eddie, you might have to bring a suit with you on this trip.

Oh, sure, for the Super Bowl. No problem. Oh, we said in the owner suite? I don't think I can officially announce it, but I think that I am presenting NFL honors. Wow. On the TV show, I think. And so if they're like, you have to bring somebody, I'll let you know, but you may have to bring a suit. Okay, so if he gets to go to that, he doesn't go to the Super Bowl.

Fair point? We'll talk about it Monday. That's not a fair point, but. That's funny. But that would be cool to go to that, right? All the athletes. Amazing. So you may have to bring a suit.

Wow. I'm not confirmed. Am I getting on stage with you? Yeah, we're doing it together. Okay, man. We're doing it together. Let me know I need to do. Eddie shows up in a Romo jersey.

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