The Bobby Bones Show - 25W: Recapping Bobby’s Worst Sports Weekend EVER + Brandon Marcello’s Top Candidate for Penn State's Next Head Coach + Eddie Claims He Would Make a Good MLB Manager

Episode Date: October 13, 2025

Bobby breaks down his worst sports weekend ever after deciding to pass on the trip to Knoxville for the Arkansas-Tennessee game and losing thousands on gambling. Then Brandon Marcello jumps on to talk about James Franklin getting fired from Penn State and reveals his top candidate to replace him. Finally, Eddie plants his flag: he swears he’d make a good MLB manager. The guys put his managerial brain to the test by asking about analytics and major decisions. Brandon Marcello Article HERE Download the DraftKings Sportsbook App today: https://dkng.co/bobbysports   If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/MI/NJ/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/NH), 888-789-7777/visit http://ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 1-877-770-STOP (7867) (LA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), call/text TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA).   21+ (18+ WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/LA/MI/NJ/ NY/PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. N/A in NH/OR/ON. New customers only. Valid 1 per new customer. Min. $5 deposit. Min $5 wager. $200 issued as eight (8) $25 free bets. Ends 9/19/22. See http://draftkings.com/sportsbook for details.   Follow the Show: @BobbyBonesSports   Follow the Crew: @MrBobbyBones @ProducerEddie @KickoffKevin @MikeDeestro @BrandonRayMusicSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I didn't hit a guy. I'm telling you. Oh, no. This was one of the worst betting weekends for me that I think I've ever had. Yeah. Nothing hit. I thought we were talking Arkansas and... No, no, that's part of it.

No, that's what I thought too. No, no, that's part of it. I think everybody knows that's coming. Right. Between the Cowboys losing, my wife having, oh, you lose, and then me. And then I lost, I'm saying, I lost so,

I won't lost thousands of dollars this week. And when your teams lose, it sucks. But when you lose money on top of that, like, you want to, like... I would trade and let them keep... I would trade the money, though, for the rules. wins. Because I'm only betting with money that's entertainment anyway. I get that.

But still, it's just the top, it's the icing on the cake. I'll make more money. I can't get these games back. That's true. That's true. They're lost. You need that balance. Like, I was opposite. I lost a lot of money, but the Patriots won. But you probably feel okay then. I feel fine. That's what I'm saying. I would rather my teams win. If I got to pick one,

I'd rather my teams win. I lost thousands of dollars. It sucked. And I just kept, it was just stupid. It's stupid. Okay, I didn't go to Knoxville. Eddie texted me before is like going to go. I thought I was going to go. I thought you were going to go too. In my head, even when I woke up, I was going. So what happened? My wife was like, are you sure you want to go? Do we ever blow the whistle?

Yeah, we blew the whistle. Okay. I was fine. I shot out of a can and I don't know if we blew the whistle on that. You never care that much when you miss my whistle. I know, man. I know. Never. I woke up and my wife's like, you're going to go or no, because I was overlooking for single tickets and I found one because they were going down closer to the game. And there was one like four rows back, 45, 50 yard line, like 300 bucks, really cheap for that ticket. And I was like, I think so. Single ticket. Yeah.

I think so. She goes, okay, are you sure? And I'm like, why? What do you think? She goes, you have a possibility to lose both big games today, and that's going to be the worst drive home in the history of your drive homes. Yeah. And I said, that's really not a positive thing to say.

She goes, it's not positive or negative. Look at the odds. and she never uses odds. She goes, both of your teams are supposed to lose. And I was like, but if we go and we win, I'm going to be so upset that I wasn't there.

And she was like, you're Mr. analytics and Mr. Logic about everything, everything. Mr. No emotion. You always want to do things logical, what you think the best, the circumstances present the best opportunity. And she goes, I think you're stupid.

Maybe not stupid. She goes, I don't think it's the smartest decision to go. Yes, she wouldn't use that. That was a different reason. That, me, yeah, yeah. She goes, I don't think it's a smart decision to go. And a little bit, I was so offended. I was like, but we're going to go?

Like, buy Patrano's back, baby. We're going to go. I'm going to win the game. It's going to be one of the great sports nights in my life by myself in a sea of orange, like the red, the red ink just spreads and the milk. And it's just like, oh, you guys suck. I'm the great. I just was picturing it.

I can tell. It's awesome. The imagery. Yes. And then on the way home, I was going to watch the, Cubs game. Of course. On my phone, we were going to dominate that three and a half hours home.

I'm so glad you're talking me out of it. Yeah, that would have been bad. We lost them both, and it lost a lot of money. And Arkansas, like, you got hope, then no hope. Then hope, then no hope. At the end of the game, it sucks because we definitely could have won that game. We fumble three times. Again.

Yeah, I don't feel like that's a Bobby Petrino loss. I feel like that's Bobby Petrino actually making up a little ground from where we were. So it sucks. It had been awesome to be one-on-one in the SEC because we'd have been back in the mix for the conference. I was already thinking that. I was already thinking that. In the top.

Yeah, we're back in the mix, baby. We're going to be winning the SEC. Yeah, it goes A&M, then Arkansas. Yes. And look at Alabama in a lot. That's what we were going to do. So the Arkansas game sucked. And then it was the first game,

the Cubs didn't score a whole bunch of runs in the first inning. And it was just they hit a home run. We answered. They hit a home run. We didn't answer. And it was, like that, it was over. That game to me, I don't think I was as hurt by because we just didn't have the, we don't have the pitching to win multiple series.

Yeah. We just don't. And you can see that as they're playing. You're like, you know what? I can wave the white flag big, you know what? You're a better team, whatever it is. That's fine. Milwaukee was awesome this year.

Yeah. The second half of the year. They were about 500, the first half. But they, again, were shot out of a cannon like I was the start of this show, second half. And they just had way more pitching. The Arkansas game hurt worse. I was ready to win the SEC.

I was back, baby. We were back. I'm glad I didn't go. Was there any part of you when Caitlin was telling you, like, you should not go? I know the way your brain works. I'm like, you know what? I'm going to go to prove her wrong.

Yep. Yep. And then that drive back, I'm going to be good. Yeah, I told you. I told you. Yeah, for sure. And she said, I know what you're going to do. I'll go out and predict it. If you go, you're going to send me a text about,

I don't know, halfway through the game, going like, this sucks. I'm miserable. here. I should have never come. And I said, well, and then she was, she pulled up like three other times I'd done that. All the histories on there. Yeah, I'd gone to things and been like, I don't know why I've came to. This is just stupid. So that's a bad day. Saturday was a bad day for me. Sorry. And she didn't get any nicer because, oh, you lost to Texas. That was a bad. Oh, gosh. So she watched the game. She likes just to be outside for some reason. And so she, we have a people like that.

I know. Don't, I don't get it. I have no need. I got a patio. Yeah, like outdoors. Our couch right here with the TV outside. Interesting. She watched the game outside and I have allergies and I don't want to be outside unless there's like something that can only specifically be done outside. Like if we're playing like flag football. It's got to be done outside.

Yeah, we're playing golf. I get it. But if all things are equal, I ain't going to be outside. What's out there? Nothing. Allergies. Nothing that's not inside. Everything you just said.

Yes. And so she wanted to watch it outside. So she put it on the screen outside. and she was like doing some pregnancy exercises and doing some curls and stuff. Nice. Yeah. So she's watching the game and then she just,

they never, Oklahoma never did anything. Like there was never even like a hope of, wow, now we're just turning it around. And I'll be honest, it wasn't like I flipped over and watched a whole lot of it because my game was on at the same time.

Yeah. But she was dejected. I think she would have rathered me be gone because she was so dejected. And I'm like, we suck. I hate it. And she's like,

well, you know, we lost, we're 5 and O, and we have a real reason to be upset about losing. So, a quick question. You guys are watching two games, the same house, but in separate rooms, obviously. Well, no, she's in the outside room. Outside and outside. Oh, yeah, and you're inside somewhere.

Do you guys see each other at all during those three hours? Well, yeah, and I have video because I was recording or working out a little bit, because I was inside. Okay. And then she started working out outside while watching the screen, and I'm like, man, I'm just over here getting fat watching the game. So I moved to the gym. where we have a TV in the gym

so I started working out so she could see me work out while I was watching the game I'm out of boy I think we moved like five screens we just moved all the way around for like three hours that's awesome

so it's a bad Saturday I had no idea if you were gonna go or not so I didn't check purposely I was like I don't want to check Instagram you know or anything to see if he's there just hear the story

yeah just so I can show up and see but then I finally cheated this morning and I'm like no he didn't go yeah well I posted a message to before and I was like I can't go and my wife said we're going to lose both games and I don't want to be miserable because if we lose both

games I'll be mad I went. If we had won one of them, I'd have been happy. It wouldn't have been happier. Either one I'd have been happier. Yeah, I wouldn't have been if Arkansas would have lost like they did in the Cubs would want. That lifted me up on the way home. For sure. Or the opposite would have been great. We'd won and even if the Cubs lost on the way home. But it was double. I knew it was going to be double. All I do is lose.

I suck. I hate sports on life. And I had a sucky weekend. And it's just terrible. It's just terrible. So that's all. I'm done. Cowboys lost two. Cowboys lost two. Good, good.

Ruin my day. I don't even care about the freaking panthers. I'll bet $500 in the Cowboys plus one. I thought they were going to come back and win the game and I lost that too. I'm telling you every bet I made. Oh, man. So I was mad at you. I was mad at you.

But I didn't do anything. I know, but you're associated with the Cowboys. I was mad too, dude. Like I was rooting for the, you know, I'm a new Panther fan, whatever. But like I was written for the Cowboys. because it's more important for you and Mike to win than it is for me and my new team to win. It's not even really my team, right?

I'm flirting. Thank you for being transparent with that. I'm flirting. But their uniforms are awesome. They did. I like that black helmet. That blue on blue with the black helmet. That black mat helmet.

They brought me in a little more this week for sure. That's nice. And our boy, Ted McMillan, he had a good game. Yeah, two touchdowns. Yeah. RICO'd out. Yeah, he just, I mean, he took it out on the Cowboys. He's like, you're going to get rid of me.

I'm going to show you why you don't get rid of me. Two games in a row over 200 yards. And he talked smack this. Yeah, he did. Did you see him just hit that, like when we did that pick six? It wasn't a pick. It was a pick. We ran it down the sideline.

He just hit the blocker. He didn't even tackle the guy with the ball. He just nailed the blocker. He's like, I'm just hitting someone. I don't care who I hit. Yeah, he and they played well. They did. They did.

Now, we could have won that game, you know, but they did great clock management at that last drive where they just milked it all the way down to the end. Cowboys tried to let him score. Oh, I did see that. And he fell. And they couldn't even do that right. No. I thought you guys are going to win.

I did too. That's why I bet it. I was like Cowboys plus one? I'm going to put 500. I'm in the whole lot. Get a little bit of that back. No. George Pickens had a day.

Yeah. He's going to make a lot of money next year. Was he the one with the big leap too? Yes. Oh my gosh. Like a sideways hurdle? Yeah. Which is so hot.

Which is great too. When CD comes back and you got that on both ends, like it's going to be really exciting. Yeah, unless they don't mix well. because when he came, he was for sure the number two. For sure. And he will be the number two. But he's going to be more like one B. One, yeah, one B.

Because he's been playing awesome. Yeah. He's still a bit reckless. Even that play. Yeah. He jumped. He was like, he's got one ball on the hand, holding it out. Like, definitely for sure.

Stiff armings, not even stiff arm, punching people in the helmet. He's for sure going to make a lot of money. Because I think this is it as a contract. This is a one, it was a one. I think this is the last year of that deal. A rookie contract. Yes. So you may fact check me on that

But I made a bunch of notes Great That's what the Cowboys needed Just pay more money to players He won't stay with the Cowboys I know They can't afford him He's making his money

The best thing to ever happen to him Was Cideland to get hurt Because he's the number one Right He doesn't have the body of a number one But god dang he's electric It's pretty awesome Yeah eligible free agent

After this year So I wrote down The Panthers uniform Look really good Here's what I said I also wrote down I'd look awesome with the Dalto piercing. Question.

How does that piercing work? I don't know, but it looks awesome. It's like in his cheek. Like, where's the backside of that? In his face? Dude. The inside of his face? It goes all the way through the back of his neck.

You know what I mean? Like an earring, like you got one side of the ear and then you buckle it in the back of the ear. But I don't know where the backside of that is. So if you haven't seen Rico Dalai has a piercing, it's like in his cheek. And it's like a little ball stud. Like under his eye. It's awesome. And I was.

look good with that. That's what I wrote. It's like a butterfly anchor. You know, when he put it into the wall and like once it gets in there, it spreads out and stuck. Oh, so behind it, it opens up. I don't know how you get it out. In his face? You got to put that on with a level. He got two. The one with a bubble. Yeah, I got to pierce it with a level there. You got your tool belt. So, so you said you'd look good with that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If I had one of those, I'd like good. What side would you go? My right side. It's my bad eye. So I put it in my bad eye. You put it in your bad eye.

What's the reason behind that? I don't want anything toxic into my good eye. Oh, good idea. I only got one good eye. Why would I put anything metal around there? That's true. Another funny thing that I wrote down was, it's not funny that Baltimore keeps losing,

but man, they're one of five now? Yeah. It's, yeah. Awful. And Cooper Rush, not the Cooper Rush of the Dallas Cowboys. Nope.

No, it's a different dude. I happen to that guy. I had, say, Flowers fumbled, too, and he never, it's a bad deal right now. Baltimore but the thing that I wrote was they went to jump or to John John Harbaugh. They cut to him and he's just dejected. He's so sad. It's like late third quarter. The game is over.

His face is hanging like, but he has on that confetti Baltimore hat because all the coaches were in like the catch. What is it? Crucial catch. It's all it's like confetti. It's like Jojo Siwa. It's like what she would wear and it cuts to him being so sad and a Jojo Siwa hat of the Baltimore on it. I was like, that's hilarious. It's almost like the Lieutenant Dan meme, you know, where he's the New Year's party. He's got all the confetti

on. He looks so angry. It was just the worst hat for that exact shot. He was over life. And it's like, let's take a live look at him. And he's got JoJo C-Wa on with the ponytail with all the curls. So sad. And the

colors. Hucks. Yeah. All right. Hey, you're... What's up? I say this complimentary. You look really tired. I'm exhausted, dude.

I'm exhausted. I think... So we decided to do like a family trip to Hershey, Pennsylvania. And when we do these family trips, it's four days. I think minimum is kind of what you need for a family to have fun at a theme park or whatever. We did it on in two days. So you left Friday morning. Yep.

So you get there because part of it too was you were doing a thing for the show. we have a, like a partner that is that school that takes in a bunch of kids. Yeah, the Milton Hershey School. Right. Which is awesome. And so I'd never seen it before. So we were going to do a tour of it that day. That tour was a five hours.

So we did a five hour tour. Did all your kids go on the tour? No, just me. So they went to the pool, hung out at the hotel. And then I went to do the tour for five hours. But mind you, we woke up at three that morning, not just meeting. Like, we can do that. The kids, the whole family, getting them to the airport at four in the morning is brutal.

And so that whole day just kind of like started crazy. We got there, did the tour. And then we hung out and had dinner and went to the pool afterwards. The next day, we spent all day at Hershey Park, which is amazing. It's a theme park. It's a theme park. Yeah. And it's all Hershey themed.

It's every like Jolly Rancher this, Twizzler of that, you know, chocolate bar this, Reese's Peter Buttercup, this. It's awesome. It's amazing. But by like 7 o'clock, which was really just 6 o'clock our time, we're exhausted. Day two of the trip, though. two and then we got to fly out at 8 a.m. The next day.

So it was, dude, it was, it was a lot. We had a lot of fun and that place is awesome, but I'm exhausted. Were you delayed with the, all the,

FAA people being out? Not really. We were delayed on the way back. Yeah, we got delayed in Philly, which was only about an hour and a half. I don't know if that was weather or if that was government,

you know, shut down, whatever, but yeah, we got to just delayed. You're lucky then. We did. It looks like it's been bad. I think what helps for us

is that early flight. Oh yeah. The early flight means you're not going to be that late because there's not many flights going in and out before it. You always want to get an early one because they're hardly ever delayed unless the plane's broken. Yeah. Never because it's got to be held up because the plane's coming in from somewhere else. And we flew into Harrisburg, which is tiny, tiny airport, right? And we were even like, we waited like 20 minutes to take off from Harrisburg. They're just like waiting on traffic. Like, there's no one here. There's two planes, but there's probably one dude in the control set, a control test. hour. Yeah. Your eyes like tired. Yeah, dude, I'm tired. But hey man, we're good though. We're good.

I got to watch the Cowboys game in the plane, which I didn't know American Airlines had live TV like Southwest does. It's always easier to watch a game or it's always easier to fly when you can watch something that keeps you focus, not so miserable. Yes. And then with the kids too, like they all want to watch the game. So they were all quiet. They'll watch the game. They'll watch the game. Yeah. Yeah, we have like three tablets going at the same time. So they all have like, tooth going into it. We missed the part of the I missed everything so I don't know what you guys want me to do but yeah

no we didn't hit that. We got that Georgia money line. But yeah but I missed two out of three. Alabama minus three and a half versus Missouri. That was a loss although they did win. That was a loss. Georgia beat Auburn, whatever they shouldn't have.

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And you'll hear that. You may have seen that by now. We'll talk about more of that in just a second. But let's go over to Brandon Marcello, which you can follow him on Instagram. Great for college football at Brandon Marcello. And his article up at CBS Sports is about his time at Alabama, Missouri, and how good Alabama is, et cetera.

Here he is, Brandon Marcello. We have Brandon Marcello on with us, which I wouldn't have called. to be like, hey, you want to do our hit, had I known James Franklin was going to get fired in between the time that we called and the time we got on with him, because I'm sure you're the most in-demand man around right now.

So James Franklin gets fired at Penn State. I saw you in your car talking about it. My question is, does he have offset language in his contract, or will he get all that money? I think that there's something that could be negotiated there. I haven't looked at the contract completely. I'm sure there is a possibility of that part of that being offset. We haven't gotten the full details also.

yet sometimes in some of these instances that could even be a negotiated buyout that gets leveled down a little bit. You know, we saw that recently with Arkansas with Sam Pittman, but either way, this is going to end up being the second largest buyout we've ever seen in the FBS right behind Jimbo Fisher a few years ago when he got that $75 million buyout from Texas A&M. But, you know, Penn State's got the money and they're willing to spend it and they're just ready to move on. How much do you put into Adidas? I was just seeing tweets about it, so I know nothing else. Adidas going, hey, we need to help and we'll help pay some of this off. That's true. It could be possible.

I know Adidas is giving them a lot of money to be one of their big brands. You know, Adidas has not been heavily involved in college football and college athletics, all that much here in recent years. And they're trying to take kind of a bigger piece of the pie here as they move forward. So that's not too surprising. the big thing to really keep an eye on too here is that the Big Ten has been exploring private equity infusion of cash. And if that comes to be, which there might be a vote here in the next week or two, you could see programs like Penn State, the upper echelon Big Ten teams programs,

which is just saying, getting as much, if not more than $150 million up front from this new cash infusion from private equity. so that helps offset things. And then also, I mean, Penn State's been very willing to spend money anyway. They spent a lot of money just redoing their stadium, updating it. They've got boosters there who have been fed up, quite frankly, with James Franklin for several years. And at some point, you've got to appease your boosters who might sit there and go, I'm not going to give you as much money anymore, or I'm not going to give you any money until you get rid of this guy. When they lost Northwestern,

did you think it was done? I didn't. I thought this would be something that would go all the way through the season, and then they might have a discussion at that point. I also thought it was possible that James Franklin might sit back and wonder, have I hit everything I can hit here, and do I need to go, like, kind of

reset my career somewhere else and be able to coach another five, six years plus? I thought that was a real possibility for him, and it still is. I'm just shocked that Penn State just said, we're not going to wait for that. We're just going to give you your money now and wait to see it. You can go figure something else out yourself right now.

But yeah, this completely shocked me. I did not expect this right now. Do you think they would have moved so quick if Aller wouldn't have been injured and out for the year? Yeah, I think so. I think they would have still made the same decision. Absolutely. Man, just two weeks ago, three games ago. They're freaking playing a top five.

I mean, life comes at you fast. Yeah. It's crazy out there. you know, we've been saying for a long time everybody really has is that this was going to be a crazy coaching carousel cycle just because there were so few big jobs that came open last year.

Zero in the SEC, obviously. The Big Ten's been pretty level here the last two to three years. And it's going to be really nuts come November, December. There's going to be a lot of programs out there that their fan bases are not going to be happy with the hires they make

because there's just going to be so many top-tier jobs. Matt Rule, obviously, from state college, Penn State guy at Nebraska now. I feel like, again, I'm just gauging the temperature online, which is a terrible place to gauge any temperature. Like, even I know that. But I feel like the Penn State fans don't want Matt Rule, even though he's hometown guy. He's been through a couple places, obviously. He's had some failures. It's not like he's turned Nebraska into a monster program.

Do you think he's the guy, or do you think he's the fallback guy? I think he's going to be the number one guy for a lot of, uh, A lot of programs. Sorry, actually just getting news about another coach being fired. Is it broken? Yeah. Well, I didn't break it, but UAB just fired Trent Delford, their head coach. He stood us up once.

We're not that sad about that one. Yeah, we're not that sad about that one. Not surprising. They've been an absolute just disaster. But I will say this. You know, it's interesting about that. He's got the same conference record, 5 and 14 in the American, as Hugh Freeze at Auburn.

He's 5 and 14. now. And that's another job to keep an eye on later this year. Matt Rule. Matt Rule, yes. Yeah, he's going to be number one on a bunch of lists of boosters and power players there. I think that would be a job he would have to seriously consider.

As you said, it's hometowns, got a lot of connections up there. And Nebraska, he's like, he's running against the tide every day, man. He's like trying to turn that place close back to what it was. in the 90s and the early 2000s. And in this day and age, you can maybe do that with a lot of NIL cash and everything, but you're still got that stigma of your Nebraska.

You're kind of in the middle of nowhere in the eyes of recruits. And they struck it big here the last couple of years because they were able to get a legacy player like Dylan Ryola, whose family played there and all that stuff. But what happens after that? What happens after Dylan Ryola? I mean the best you're going to do is maybe win eight, nine games there. Penn State, you can go win a national championship.

They've done in the past. So if Penn State goes after Matt Rule, like the way I think they will at the very least and kick the tires, he would have to seriously consider leaving for that. I think he would. All right, let's bounce around a little bit. I know you went to the Alabama game. Listen, I've liked Kalen DeBore, even when times are tough. I think Kalen DeBore is a good coach.

Do we feel like he's now a good coach? Yeah, that's the thing. always been a great coach. You know, he's got the best record against AP top 10 teams ever. As long as they've played more than 10 games, he's got the best record ever. The guy just wins these big games. And I know the score was 2724, but it never really felt that close. But that's kind of Bama's problem right now under Kailin DeWore. They're still trying to learn how to put games away. But then they make big plays when they have to to put them away. And they did that against Missou. I mean, they open up the second half and Ty Simpson, their quarterback fumbles the ball to set up a

Missou touchdown and then all of a sudden it's a game. And then Alabama marches right down the field, has a nine minute drive. Looks like they score, but whoops, the quarterback kneeled on the ball on accident instead of handing it off. And then Mazoo's defense stops them and forces a field goal when Missou should have scored a touchdown. They just make things a little bit more difficult than they should. This is a great team. Their defense is really improved. Their rush defense, more importantly, is improved. And they might end up being still the best team in the SEC this year by the end of it.

I was going to ask you who you thought was the best team in the SEC right now? Probably Texas A&M. Wow. Maybe. I'd say Georgia, and my rankings are all over the place, but Georgia still concerns me because they just seem to be like legitimately hot and cold in the same game. I mean, they looked hot and cold against Bama. They look hot and cold to cold this past weekend against Auburn.

And their defense isn't all that electric. You know, a couple of games ago, like three to four games into the season, their defensive line was only responsible for four tackles behind the line of scrimmage all season. We're used to Georgia's defensive line being a monster and something that no one ever wanted to face to only four TFLs through the first three to four games of the season. but A&M, they clicking, man. They're clicking on both sides of the ball.

They have a dynamic quarterback and Marcel Reed. The problem is, it's like in the back of your head, you just get, you know, deja vu, like, I've seen this before. A&M starts hot, and then they fall apart late in October and November. That's been the case under Mike Elko last year.

Jimbo Fisher threw out as a tenure, and of course, even Kevin someone before him, but this team's built different. They got the depth. They seem to be all together. don't really take any weeks off between games. You don't see them kind of struggling. I think they could end up being the SEC champion.

You talk about Georgia, and I watched a bunch of that game, and for two reasons, I wanted to see a few free's lasts. I was just curious to see how Auburn would come out and play for their coach. And the first half, not bad. And also, they got screwed in the fumble. I also, I don't hate Georgia. Like, I have no beef with Georgia. They win.

They're not that arrogant. I'd be way more arrogant if I was winning. But this is like the first week ever watched Kirby Smart. It was like he's kind of a slime ball. The timeout, the clapping, the timeout, and then fighting for it again and the presser after, I really felt like Kirby Smart lost some cool points this week. Yeah, that wasn't a good look. You know, it was like a kid like flipping off their parents behind their back.

And then you turn around and catch them. They're like, no, I was just doing jazz hands. Daddy, I'm just doing like, no, I saw you. I saw what you're doing. There's tape of it. But Kirby's kind of always been like that. Yeah, again, they're just not that arrogant, so I don't. hate him. I don't mind somebody kind of sleazy, because I think you have to be that to be an SEC

successful SEC coach. You got to be dirty. You got to be a psycho. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But he was for sure calling time out. Like, there was no doubt about he was calling time out. And he was like I was clapping. Like, at least own it later in the press. You don't have to keep fighting for it. It's on tape, man. But I, to go over to Hugh Freez. You never clapped like this in a concert? Not one one time. Never clapped like that. Only when we finished this interview, I'm always like, that was a heck of a performance by Marcello. That was a great one. Auburn, are they going to move off freeze? The pressure's building, and if they don't win a couple of big games,

by big games, I mean rivalry-type games, Bama or top 15, top-10 opponent down the stretch. I think it's very possible. There's a lot of heat there anyway for that type of job. The problem with Hugh Freeze is that they brought him in to be the guy that would turn an offense around. He was known as the quarterback guy, and he's come in there and just made mistake after mistake identifying talent, a quarterback. He brings in Michigan State transfer Peyton Thorne a year or two ago. That completely imploded.

Then he brings in OU's Jackson Arnold, and he's pretty much a replica of Peyton Thorne. He doesn't look any different. He makes some bad throws, bad decisions, holds on the ball too long. And you hired a coach who's supposed to have an explosive offense, and it's anything but that's the weakness of this team, despite them having, I think, one of the top five receiver rooms in the entire country, a good offensive line and some pretty good running backs. You should be scoring 30 points a game at least. And they're struggling to get out of the teens in most games, no matter of the opponent.

And these past two weeks for them against A&M and now Georgia, they look completely listless and lost in the second half of those games offensively. they had 40 yards of offense in the second half against Georgia. And most of those yards came on their final drive when Georgia's pulling everybody back just to make sure they didn't throw the ball into the end zone to hold on to the win. That's not SEC quality, and it's certainly not quality for a coach who's MO is offense. We talk about coaching and how that carousel could actually be pretty crazy, but even the quarterback carousel, not just for NIL, but because the coaching change,

let's say Florida, Auburn. I mean, you got Jackson Arnold, you got DJ Laguer. You got all these guys who don't have a coach can make more money. We'll probably also leave. So there are a lot of great quarterbacks that could also end up somewhere else next year. Oh, yeah. And then, man, you look at other quarterbacks out there as well, like at North Texas. That guy's going to probably make a lot of money if he wants to transfer this upcoming year.

And there's going to be other that kind of rise through the ranks, especially on the group of five level down the stretch. And we always have the last two years, we always have like a big name quarterback at a school leave. Cam Ward a few years ago. John Mateer last year at Washington State going to OU, Carson Beck going from Georgia to Miami. And I would suspect there's probably going to be a name that comes out of left field once again this year because that money talks to them. Signetti, I guess he's the guy, huh? Dude.

You don't talk, by the way, you want to talk about Scyl. psychos, he's a psychopath and I love it. You see it in his interactions and his interviews and everything. I made a joke to a friend that if Tim Burton, the director Tim Burton, was somehow forced into making a movie about football, he would cast Kurt Signetti as the football coach. It's just this weird guy, weird mannerisms. Like, it's just like, how's he pulling these sayings out of thin air? But yeah, I mean, every question about him is like Ben answered. You know, they go, well, they just, their schedules, they don't play anybody. Well, you just went on the road and beat a number three team in their house.

You beat them by 10 points. And by the way, you did so after throwing a pick six and you still beat them by 10 points. They clamp down and actually beat down the ducks in Austin Stadium, which I went there last year for their game against Ohio State, which was an instant classic. That's one of the top 10 atmospheres I've ever been in. It's a smaller stadium. It's only like 55,000 people. But it's a lot. It's like 55,000 people. But It's incredible because of the way it's built. And they went in there and just didn't, they couldn't do anything. They scored, I mean, Oregon only scored six points in the final three quarters

offensively and both were fuel goals. And look at the schedule for Indiana, man. They should be favored in every game remaining on the schedule. And they're better than they were last year. Guys, 17 and 2 at Indiana. I mean, to be 17 and 2 at Bama over two years would be, staggering, but to do it at Indiana, but we never, we've never, we've never seen anything like this ever.

I hope people grasp that. Like we've had programs like kind of rise out of nowhere, but it took them several years to get there like Florida State in the 70s and 80s, Boise State in the 2000s and 2010s. That was a slow build as well where all of a sudden they became name brand type programs. Indiana's done that overnight with a, I mean, in their first year with a new coach, and now in their second year, they're even better.

Never seen anything like it, but the Transfer Portal in IL era makes it all possible. I feel like there are a few things in sports to kind of reset the game that make other people either understand that they haven't been as good as they could have been or they could be a lot better.

One's a four-minute mile the first time somebody runs it. Everybody then starts running it because you can see that it's done. Adrian Peterson coming back so fast from tearing his ACL. And again, he's superhuman, but it showed that you can come back a lot quicker than doctors have said. And now with Signetti winning there, I think for better or worse, it's going to set unfair expectations on what great coaches do at even mid programs. Yeah, and you're going to see a lot more, especially in this cycle,

because as I said, there's going to be a lot of programs where our fans are not going to be happy with the coach they hire. And you're going to see some coaches probably from the FCS level who have won big where they're at or at a smaller program even within the FBS that gets bumped up to a bigger job and people are going to go, what's up with this hire? But you got to find, if you're an AD search firm committee, whatever, you got to find a coach who's been successful no matter where they've been on a couple of different levels with different levels of resources.

Names that always come to mind for me here in this recent era for that are one, Kurt Signetti because he's done it on multiple levels. Lance Leopold at Kansas, he's done it at multiple levels. And by the way, if the job at Wisconsin comes open, I would think they're going to go directly after him and make him say no, because he had so much success at Wisconsin Whitewater, a lower level program. Chris Climmon as well at Kansas State. Matt Ince, who was winning big at North Dakota State and is now rising up the ranks as well.

at New Mexico State. Just absolutely just getting it done. These are the type of things that are becoming a little bit more common for them for 80s to be more warm up to because they always want to try to make a splash or go get the new hot assistant, you know, offensive coordinator or defensive coordinator. But just go get someone that starts their career and wins there

and gradually moves up because it shows that their system, their process, the progress they're doing. just works and then invest in them. Put everything you can into NIL and all the tools and everything you need in the recruiting department to make them succeed. I'll do a final question about Arkansas in that I think the Patrino meter did not move one way or the other this week and I think that's a positive. I think he didn't lose anything. I don't think people feel worse about him. Had they come out and had they we, I feel like I'm on the team, had we lost by 20 points or so, I think everybody would have already checked out of the Petrino experiment. Had he won, I think you'd have had a lot of people

going, hey, I think this could possibly be our guy with a couple more wins. We've got a couple of winnable games with, we could possibly beat Auburn. It's hard to say winnable and we've been so terrible. But I think there are a couple of games, Mississippi State, I think we can win those games. But because it was a close game on the road, I think he's where he was before it started. What are your thoughts on that?

Same. I don't think anything changed there. I mean, they went on the road and they lost in a very similar fashion the way they've lost the last two years, right? One possession game. And they lose because they make too many mistakes. They had three turnovers, right? I mean, I thought in a way, just because it wasn't the timing,

like the Ole Miss game where you're fumbling as you're driving, I mean, put that fumble earlier in the game against Old Miss, and then they still lose it by the same score. That's what happened against Tennessee, in my opinion. It's like it's very similar to the Ole Miss game. And to a certain extent, it's the same type of result. You had it in Memphis. So, like, nothing's changed other than,

you got blown out at Notre Dame against Notre Dame at home. So that was a different thing. You haven't seen that. But what you've seen in the past, the way they've lost on the road is the same. I mean, they've been losing one possession games on the road for the better part of the last two, three years.

This is nothing new. So yeah, it's, it did nothing for me. But they're going to, in my opinion, because of the way Arkansas is built offensively, they're going to,

I don't know sneak up is the right work. They're going to beat somebody that they, quote unquote shouldn't on the schedule at some point. It's going to happen, Bobby. And you're going to hear the, you're going to hear people going, Bobby's a guy. Bobby, Bobby Petrino's the guy. He's got, we got to keep him. But I don't see how you do that three or four times.

I think he's got to win at least four games. I do too. And I've said the same thing. And it's also unfair to expect him to win that game. You know, I know they had a buy week, an idle week, whatever you want to call it. But I did not feel any more either direction. and so I think he still can prove he can be the guy. I don't, listen, I kind of don't care.

If he wins games, I think he deserves a short contract and let's see what he can do for a couple years. If he doesn't, cool, let's go get somebody. I would rather have somebody like you're talking about. Some of these guys that have proven that they have won at different levels. I swear to God, I don't want a John Gruden. I don't want, like those, that's the opposite of what we should want because that is such a fireball that dies a bad death.

Yes. Listen, I hate the idea that. saying celebrity coach because in some ways John Gruden can be identified as that, but also he just hasn't been successful very much. Go look at his NFL record. He obviously's never coaching college football. You hire him. He'll bring you a bunch of attention.

Maybe you get the fans riled up. I mean, he'll be great on the booster circuit and all that type of stuff. But you're not going to win. And then three years, it's going to be what would we do here? I mean, certain programs, even smaller programs, have kind of taken that approach.

We just saw it blow up in the face of UAB. They brought in Trent Dilfer. They were like, ah, this guy was on ESPN. He just coached a high school team. That's good enough for us. No, blow up in their face. And he still. Go get you a guy who wins at multiple levels.

I mean, you, yes, go get you a name coach or whatever if you can and you got the money, who wins. That's great. But the guy who's coaching at Division 2 and then goes up to FCS, or maybe low-level FBS team and all they do is win 10 games every single year might be just as good, if not better,

a coach in some of these big names out there. It's just they haven't gotten the opportunity. And I'm telling you, these athletic departments don't want to spend a lot of money now because of NIL and they're trying to pinch pennies. Like, that should be, it probably won't be because it makes sense,

it makes financial sense. That should be the next wave. Bring these guys up that are winning no matter where they go and save some money in the last. the way. So who's Arkansas's next coach right now if you're betting? Man, I don't know. I really don't. I mean,

you might hear James Franklin's name come up. I thought we were going to hear it at the end of the year anyway with them losing the way they are. I think it's wide open, Bobby. I really do. Because everything's going to change week to week, because more jobs are going to come open, more big jobs.

Florida's out there hanging around. Auburn's maybe sitting out there hanging around. Who knows there might be a coach or two or retire or steps away. We've had that happen the last two three years, guys just leaving unexpectedly. So it's wide open. What a week. Brandon, thank you for the time,

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It's all, and stuff. Yeah. I think he's okay. You know? He did stand us up once. He did. Like full stand up. And you know what?

We don't forget those kinds of things. I don't forget. Like you do not forget. No. But is there levels to standing up? Yes. Right? And he was,

I'll let you take the floor from there, but I agree. What are you trying to say, Kevin? We had to call the school. He was a high school coach. Right down the road. And he was coming over. And it's when he was doing his big PR thing

because I'm trying to deal for winning state championships. Think I want to be a college. coach and awesome drive over let's have a whole interview five minutes late no big deal he's trend elfer former super football champion 20 minutes late no big deal he's state state champion trend dilfer and super 30 minutes late i don't know is he dead so we call the school and he just forgot that's how we call the school is he dead because he's supposed to be here right now and he's not he literally just forgot he forgot and we were like man i hope he's okay yeah we were legitimately Eddie was crying.

And I was like, dude, it's okay. I was. So it sucks to get fired, but it also sucked to be stood up. Big time. And I don't know which one's worse right now. He did have a cool thing in his press conference. I don't know when this was, but I saw it on TikTok where he talked about negativity. Did you see this?

He gets a piece of paper. He's like, this is what I tell my players. And he got a white piece of paper and drew a little black dot on it. He's like, what do you see on that paper? And then the reporter's like, a black dot. Exactly. you don't see all the piece of paper you see the negative little black dot

that's negativity I'm like it's pretty good then he got fired dang I know I was like how long I'm gonna use that I would still a lot cooler if you didn't get fired you ever see the thing where they put an and a piece paper and draw a circle around it and the ant doesn't leave the circle but is that true though

I'm just asking you've seen it I've seen it I'm not standing behind it but is that real and how is that real I've watched I've watched many TikToks on it that I think it is pretty real. The ant just sees the line is like, I'm not crossing that. Well, they do multiple.

And then once one goes across, because it doesn't hold every aunt back. And mostly it's like, at first they're a little, like, I don't think I can get past that, but once one does and they all see they can do it. Oh, interesting. But it takes somebody, we were talking about with Brandon earlier. It was like, Signetti, like he's winning

at a mid, at a basketball school at a big level. And I was make the reference a four minute mile or Adrian Peterson coming. Like, that first aunt. He's the groundbreaker. That's what he should have done. Hold a piece of paper up. Put an ant on it.

Now watch this, everyone. I've seen this on TikTok. So, yeah. He's got a decent buyout. He does? Yeah, 2.8. Okay, he'll be okay then. He's going to be okay anyway.

He'll have groceries for a little bit. I do get irritated. And it's probably a bit unfair for me to get irritated when people are like, like what you just said, they'll be okay. They'll be okay. Not because of the money thing, but I would see a lot of people being like, yeah, James Franklin, he'll be all right with this $56 million. but the thing about someone like a James Franklin or anyone that gets to that level,

the money was never the motivator. So it's also not going to be the thing that makes it okay. You don't get to a high level if money's your motivator, especially in coaching or anything creative. Because you're mostly just poor. Most people don't get out of a place where they're not over middle class. It's an impossible area to break out of. So for you to even do it and pay your bills, anything creative or in coaching,

just to get to the stage where you can pay your bills comfortably, that's 1%. And so to get to these psychotic places, money cannot be a motivator because you've been in it for so long for so many reasons that aren't money that when you get fired and people are like, oh, he's got his money. Yeah, it's great.

Don't get me wrong. But a guy like James Franklin already has plenty of money. It's not going to change his life. And he's going to get eaten up inside to go and compete again. So same with deal for. Same with anyone in those situations. But yeah, I get really irritated. people say that.

Sorry, I didn't mean that. It's okay. Larry, look at this aunt. Look at this. Oh, wow. It's not moving. But at the same time, too, like, don't these coaches know that they're a good possibility of getting fired when they take the job? Yep.

You get fired every job. You kind of just know, like, I'm going to take this job. I could last 10 years here. I could last 20 years here. But I'm probably going to get fired at some point. The fact that he was there for, what, a decade, right? Yeah. That's pretty good.

We remember him here at Vanderbilt. Yeah. He was here for a little bit before he left to go up there. Yeah. Yeah, I think if you take a job, it was 10 years ago. Whoa, that time flies. That's crazy. And we hadn't even having fun.

You know what I mean? That's right. Because they say the time flies. Imagine if we're going to have a bond. It'll go by a lot faster. But yes, I think if you take a P4 job, you know, anything after about four years, like that's borrowed time. And it's funny too when we saw a,

lot of these like when we go to these colleges and interview coaches, uh, it's funny to see some of them like, make themselves at home and then some of them just put nothing up. Those are the guys that have moved around a whole whole bunch. Yeah. Yeah. Like I, I remember, um, Bruce Pearl, like,

and, and he'd been in Auburn for a while and he was, he's a good coach and with a winning record. So he's probably going to be there for a while, but he didn't have much in his office. To be fair, he did leave pretty soon after that. Yeah.

Maybe that was why. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, he had a few books in a box and like, nothing. It looked like he was moving. Yeah. And he had papers stacked everywhere. Everywhere. Okay, let me go through my notes real quick.

These are all the losers this week. Number three, Oregon lost. Number six, Oklahoma lost. Number 14, Missouri lost. Number 15, Michigan lost. Number 17, Illinois lost. Number 22, Iowa State lost. Again, a second bad loss for them. And number 25, Florida State lost. There's one more. Bobby lost. Oh, I lost many times. A lot of money. But you read that list, and I'm like,

that's why we lost a lot of money. Like, that's why we lost. The portal NIL culture is making everything way more equal. Everything. Which makes things so hard to bet. That's where your mind goes? It's going to make it so hard for these coaches to keep their jobs too. Because you're just not going to have the layers of premier depth anywhere, even at a Georgia.

You're just not going to have it. and if a couple things don't go your way or an injury or two happens, you're not going to have the depth if you're this A-plus program and you have a couple of bad years in a row, you're done. You have to sadly take your 56 million

and go home. And you may not be all right? And you may not be all right. Yeah, you don't get the time anymore to build a program. There's no more building. There's either overnight, flip it around. Yeah, okay, notes.

The Jets suck. Justinville sucks. Oh, that was the worst. Did they have like no passing yards? They had 82 total yards. Yeah, the second half it was like no yards. Yeah. They suck.

He might get fired in year one. Yeah. And I'm like, who's their back? Oh, Tyrod Taylor. Like, come on. Gotta be a little better than that. Because you feel, nine sacks. Nine.

Jets suck so bad. Okay, that's a note. Eddie. Early game. Jumped in the, oh yeah. I hate the game, by the way. I'm over it. I don't want any more eight o'clock games.

I told you. I don't, I don't, I, I, I chose not to watch it purposefully. I ended up watching it, but I chose not to. Like, I didn't wake up with the intent of watching it.

My wife, pregnant, she's been waking up more. I slept upstairs. The bed's not as comfortable. And so I was just up. And I took the dogs. I fed them. I went and worked out.

I just did everything possible to not watch that game. Yeah. And I was like, I don't just watch it. There's nothing else to do. Yes. You're done with everything else.

It's too much. It is especially. It hits me like Sunday night. It's just like, I've been watching football all day since 8 a.m. From Saturday. I'm in shape on a Sunday to watch football from noon until about nine. I'm about nine hour shape. I'm not, I don't have 13 hours of shape.

It's a lot. Yeah. So I ended up watching that terrible game. And the Jets are terrible and they suck. And they need to relegate them. Do your guys as families or wives just have to be like, you're like, you know, let's go do this right now. Like, wait, what? You don't want to watch football?

You're like, I need just need an hour break. And they're like, really? From football? Yeah. Because I'll do that. When do you take that hour break? I was doing that yesterday or today, whatever it was. I think we were carving pumpkins with the little ones today.

I'm like, yeah, I can do it right now after the Patriots played, you know? Oh, at three? What? That's the best hour to do it. Like 3.30 to 4.30 is the premier hour where if you have to get an hour to go, that's the one, not as many games. The afternoon just slaps you. You're a little fatigued anyway.

That's a good strong hour at 3.30 to 4.30. They do give us the 6 to 7 break. but sometimes that's too late for our wives like what's dinner time what do you want to do now? Yeah, and you're just busy during that time anyways and then before you know it's seven you're like, oh, got another game on.

The 3.30 to 4.30 is the strongest hour. That's the happy hour. I try to stay ahead and the opposite way. I will, like my wife and I were going to go watch a movie today. We're going to go and because the 3 o'clock games kind of sucked but also I wanted to watch the Chiefs.

They don't play till 7. Which is last night. So I kind of I had it, and I knew the Bengals were going to be Joe Flacko's game one. Yeah. Which, by the way, we're recording right now while that game's happening. What's score? Uh, just.

What? 24. So it's over? Oh, great. No, I mean, it's over. It's over. That's over, Brandon. You got to teach Brandon Lingo.

It's over. Uh, yeah, yeah. You're like, technically it's not. We have three minutes left, guys. So that game was going. What do we have? Uh, how the bucks are up? The bucks are up.

Eight with eight with eight and a half minutes left. Who's got the ball? Niners. And the Titans are winning. Just kidding. No, no, no. I don't know about the Titans. The Raiders are winning in 2010.

What's the Tampa Bay situation? Niners have the ball, but they're on their own 40. We need the bucks to win. We do. That's massive for our little gambling. I had texted our group thread some stuff, and I was like, we need this team to win. Save us a couple hundred bucks.

And Eddie replies back, this is Eddie's wife. By the way, I know Eddie's wife really well. never say this is Eddie's wife. She would say her name. I knew you wouldn't, but Kevin, did you think possibly? Not for a second. All right. Just checking. Hey guys. I get the Eddie, like, I heard Eddie's voice. This is Eddie's wife. Hey, guys, this is Eddie's wife. I said, why do you need the Jets to win so badly? I just started texting emojis as well to be like, fish is now dollars and I did a plane for the Jets.

So just, let's hear it that way. Just in case. Yeah, Eddie texting his wife was. funny. I wrote Herbert's throw at the end was so good. Meaning, not just a throw, but he was getting sacked. And they were pulling him down, and he shakes it. I think to Ladd McCongley, whatever, and he runs, that's how they won the game with that field goal. It was awesome.

He's now good. I feel like he's always on the verge of getting sacked and making a hell of a throw. He's now good. He's always on the run. For like two years, I was like, he's not good. Everybody needs to just get off his joke about how good he is. I think he's not good. And he's got a celebrity girlfriend. So we got to respect that. Who's his girlfriend?

Madison beer. Hey, I know she is. Who is she? Why do you buy your lip? No, no, no. I'm just saying I know what she is. And the Bengals just scored. Let's go, baby.

You're weird. They did? So what score? Jamar Chase just scored. Brandon, is it over? Four minutes left. All right. So they're down eight right now?

Yeah, but they haven't kicked a field or extra point yet. Oh, they just remember two. They got it. They got it? Well, I'm deli. See, look. Look what I'm talking about. I know.

I'll get text messages from people because I'll watch YouTube TV and sometimes there's 20 seconds behind. Yeah. Something. Oh my God. And I'm like, okay. Something on the screen is about to happen one way or the other. I have to flip my phone over when that happens. Kevin text the group thread and was like, let's effing go or something.

I don't remember what he said. And I was like, oh, what's about to happen? What's about to happen? And he goes, oh, wrong thread. I was like, sorry, guys, wrong group. You know what's really fast as draft kings. Like, faster than anything. They have to be.

And so I love telling my kids, like, I look at the score. I'm like, oh, touch it. Okay. I don't know, guys. I just feel like there's going to be a touchdown here. You cheat. That's funny. They're always like, how did you do that?

My dad used to do that with red lights. We'd be sitting at the red light and you could see the other one about the turn. And we didn't know as kids. And we'd be like, three, two, well, almost, almost. Trying to get to my dad. We'd get it every time and it'd just be like, I'm just that good, guys. Dude, that's a core memory for you. That's funny.

Yeah. And that just hit me for it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it was still remember that. The 2026 NFL draft is here. And the NFL Daily podcast has it covered. from all angles.

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All the SEC, listen to this. Ole Miss is 4, A&M's 5, Alabama's 8, Georgia's 10, LSU's 11, Tennessee's 12, Missouri's 14, Oklahoma 6. This is all before the shakeup. Vanderbilt 20. That's a lot of ranked teams. There's about to be a lot of ranked teams losing.

They're all ranked, so just a lot of shakeup over the next few weeks. Texas, Mike, how'd you feel? I feel pretty good. Ars a little better, not overthrowing as much. Yeah. It kind of eliminated him a little bit. That game was hard to watch.

That game felt like a little, again, I don't watch a lot of it, but when I was watching, it looked like the Browns and Steelers. kind of. Like, nobody just wanted to do anything. It's like, you win. Like a comparison.

No, it's like, yeah. I don't want to. It's like one team has 14 players out there at once. One team has eight. They're just, they're not doing forward passes. It's just weird. Both those games were weird. The Cleveland game.

Dylan Gabriel didn't play terrible. No, he threw like 46. But that game was awful. Even the grass was like extra wet green or something. Yeah. Everything was off. Where they all field. goals. I feel like every time they'd go to that game, there was a field goal being kicked.

Until the end, I think Pittsburgh ended up scoring a little bit, right? Okay. Yeah, they had two touchdowns. Yeah. A second half. Okay. Let's see, let's see. Let me see. Let me see.

I got a question, too, that my kids asked. Go ahead. Didn't really have an answer. They asked about Joe Flacco. They're like, the guy, like, he's always going to different teams. What does his family do? They stay in the same city? So, okay, they don't move with him?

Uh-uh. So is he gone, like, the whole season? No. during this season like they can come to an apartment but if they're in school I don't know how old as kids are but I can just give you the common thing

that happens yeah yeah yeah because I had no idea I'm like I don't know man I think they go with them no they stay home okay and they go to their schools in the city where Flacco lives

where does he from they live in New Jersey okay so I would imagine they're either like living in Indy still because they signed a new contract he signed a longer term contract or they're still in New Jersey if I were guessing

because that's what a lot of players do once they get later in their career once they have a lot of a home. So Joe, but, but team practices in Cleveland, right? So he'll be in Cleveland for No, Cincinnati. Oh, Cincinnati, I'm sorry. He'll be there for what, four, four days out of the week. Yeah. And then go home for three days. He could have a day off. So they usually get a day off. He

he'd go home for a day. It's tough. By week, go home for three or four days. Yeah. Yeah, I legitimately had no idea would tell him like, I don't know, man. I remember we talked to Wade Boggs and he said, like, I just had apartments, like wherever I would go play. And my family would just be back back there. Once you get older, you don't move them around as much. When you're young, you probably, if you have babies or before kids, you get put in schools. Because you don't want to move your kids around a bunch.

As a new dad, I can tell you. Very knowledgeable. You don't want to. Any updates over there on the games for our sakes? Niners are driving still. Now they're on Tampa's 30, third and one. Tess Johnson did score, though. We interviewed him at Oregon.

He had his first, like, a couple catches last week. I thought it was pretty cool. And that was his first, that was his first touchdown. Was it? Yeah. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, he was like a seventh round pick, I think.

Six or seventh round pick. You may look that up. He was awesome at Oregon. Yeah. And he was like Bo Nixis. They like were brother that lived together. Like one of them got adopted by one of them's parents. Yeah, seventh round.

What? He was seventh round. Did you talk about that in the interview? No. Dude, I had no idea. That's crazy. So he actually, at least lived with him for a year. One of them lived with them.

Yeah. Like a high school. Taz lived with the Nix's. Yeah, with the Nix's. Yeah. Like in high school? He's like in a, yeah. That's what?

That's amazing. And then he went to Temple or something like that. Tess did. And then once Bo went to Oregon, then he went to Oregon too. That's amazing. I had no idea. Eddie thinks he'd be a good baseball manager? Oh, dude, easy.

Easy. Just from watching a lot of this postseason baseball, I just feel like if I was the manager, I would just tell these guys like, hey, whoa, don't swing so hard. Oh. Just barely hit the ball, man. You guys are strong.

Every time they barely hit the ball, it goes over the infield base hit. I'd hire you. I mean, easy, breezy. Goes over the infield. Gets that little gap in between the shortstop and the outfielder dude and it's like, all right, we're on base.

Like, why are they swinging so hard? I think you have a bright future ahead of me. Spit some sunflower scenes and be like, hey, you got this butt. Hey, don't swing so hard. Pat him in the butt. Off they go. I think one of the more interesting things about being a baseball manager is it's so much analytics now.

Yeah. And there's really not a lot of even need for instant decisions. Baseball is not really an instant decision sport. Football much more so is. And you can have analytics built in, but plays are changed. Is that why they're always looking at their little wristband? Like, okay, judge is up. Like, I move to my left is where I stand as an outfielder.

Oh, would they do that? Or they look at the little notes on their hats. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's all game planning. Yeah. Yeah. I'd have to learn this.

I'm going to be a manager, guys. I don't know this stuff. I think the Yankees might be looking for one soon. I think you can hit them up, dude. Okay, well. That's a good place to start, too. It is. Yeah.

A little small team. Unknown. Did you ride any of the rides? Oh, yeah. You did? I wrote a lot of rides, man. But I got to be, dude, I think I'm done. I think I'm done with roller coasters.

Like, I have four boys. And every time we go to a park, it's like, let's go, dad. And I'm like, let's go. And afterwards, I'm like, my body can't take these. There was one called the Jolly Rancher remix. Dude, it was crazy. It went. So it starts, it starts you off going up.

You go up like you're going straight up like you're going to drop. But you don't drop. It lets you go backwards. then you do a little loop-de-loop, then you go up on the other side, it stops, gets higher, and then you go do it again. It's crazy.

That's why it's the remix, because it goes forward and then backwards. Got it. Do you think you'll be sore? Oh, my neck will definitely, I'm already sore. Like, my neck, I can't turn it all the way to the left.

Like, because, and it's not even like, I don't know if it's my body or what, but like my brain starts freaking out when I get on these roller coasters. Like, there was this one that was all wood. It felt like I was on a real train track. And I'm like, this thing's going to break.

Like, while we're on it, this thing's, and I look back, my whole family's on here. I'm like, we're all going to die. So the two minutes that this ride is going, I'm thinking, this is it, it's over. And like, I can't stop my brain from thinking that my kid's going to fall out. Is that tight enough? This thing's kind of loose. My brain just goes crazy thinking, dude, it's over on those roller coasters. So that's part of it.

My body can't take it. And my brain freaks out while we're on roller coasters. the best commercial for the Hershey Park. We're not doing a commercial for them. No one died. But, man, I was scared. We'll see next weekend at Hershey Park. Tell him Eddie told you at the gate.

We got an interception bucks. Oh, yeah? Okay. So they got the ball back with 545 left. Up eight? Up eight. Okay, so, boy, it'd be better if it's nine. Oh, God.

It would be better for it. Not to be Mr. Obvious, but it'd be way better if it was nine. Captain obvious. All right. Hey, Mike, one question before we wrap. Yeah. I was reading that The Rock's movie, not that they ever expect the second week

to be a monster if the first week wasn't, but it did even lesser than the expectations were. And I was pretty excited about watching that. It's called The Smashing Machine. It's a story of a real guy. Early UFC guy. Mark Kerr. Why is it not working?

I don't think people are too familiar with him, and his story isn't compelling enough to drive people to want to go watch a movie that they don't know anything about the person. Is the movie good? The movie is good. And I think the rock probably played them like perfectly, but there's no reference point for me.

Like, I don't know what Mark Kerr was really like. So have you seen the documentary? I have not. There's a documentary on Mark Kerr? Yeah. So, yes. So I was with a guy, I told you, maybe I told you. He does Ariel Hawani.

Yes. And he said, watch the documentary first in the movie. If you're going to watch them. But he watched, he liked him. But that's his thing. UFC, boxing, even a bit of wrestling. So people just aren't familiar enough with the story. So The Rock was good in it.

He was really good at it. Is this the first Rock bomb? I think in recent history it is, because the movie costs $50 million to make. Opening weekend made $6 million. That's nothing. The Rock has millions of followers on Instagram. The fact that it only made $6 million is crazy.

But I don't think it's a loss to him yet. If he can get an Oscar nomination, I think that is worth it for him. Because I think that's why he, he took this role because it's more emotional. It's not just your average like, okay, I'm going to be the rock and I'm going to be the action guy. It's more in depth.

And he was like pretty convincing and like him like crying and really getting that out there. Obviously really good at the fighting scenes. But I think that's why he did this movie. Because everybody's like, The Rock just does the same character over and over. Let me show him a different side. And it can't be streamed yet.

Not yet. They're getting those out pretty quick though. Yeah, you wish there was a gear where if the movie just sucked at the box office, pull it. Hey, you should do it quicker. It's on Netflix now. If it came out yesterday, nobody went, watch it today on Amazon Prime.

If it bombs like this, they stick to that strict like 45 days, then it's out. Really? Yeah. I'll watch a documentary probably soon. Have you watched or started season three of Allison Borderlands?

I'm not Saturday yet now. You're done with one and two, right? Yes. I really liked one. I thought two was a little less than one. I loved one. Okay, same. Do you think two was a little less?

Yes. I think three. We've only watched one episode. I think three is going to be awesome. Okay. We just one episode. And it's only six episodes total the season instead of eight. Yeah.

It's, I don't even want to ruin how they come back because I don't want to spoil anything about anything with the first two seasons. If you guys haven't watched it yet, it was made at the same time as Squid Game. Squid Game is... The first Squid Game? I think it was before it, wasn't it?

They made them at the same time. It came out before. Okay, okay. Yes. But barely, like a few months. So much so that you're not. you thought, like, how did they rip this on? Yes. Oh, dang.

Yes. But the guy who made Squid Game made it like 10 years before it even came out. Like, he had that idea. Okay. We are done. I'm going to watch the documentary, I think, maybe even tonight. I'm not sure what service it's on, but I'm going to look for that too. I get it.

And then I want to watch the movie. Okay. What a show. I got to say, when we do these on Sunday nights, do you like it? They're better. Yeah. They are better.

We've been awake for a while. Well, and we're not exhausted from getting up early and working all day. I know it's probably, I don't know to you guys, which one you prefer, because it's like taking a part of a day off that we have to come and do this. But I think the shows are better. And then, yeah. Agreed. So.

And we're going to do whatever is better. So let's do this. I mean, maybe not every week. I never want to take you guys out of a. Not every week. Eddie Pompterbury. I don't know about you guys, but I love doing it working on the weekend. But it's, we have to, we stay at work less on a Monday.

I know. Yeah. That's true. You know? Mm-hmm. Hey, something to think about. Except. All right, we're out. You guys have a great rest of the week, and we will see you later on this week. All right, goodbye, everybody.

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