The Bobby Bones Show - 25W: Reid Was Involved in a Hit & Run + On3's Andy Staples Came Prepared from a Rental Car + Former NFL Linebacker Jaylon Smith
Episode Date: December 20, 2024After being involved in a hit and run yesterday, Reid explains his story, why he hasn't called insurance yet, and how a cop left him hanging. Andy Staples from On3 joined Bobby to discuss the CFP from... his car with a microphone and setup that inspired Bobby. Plus, former Notre Dame All-American and Dallas Cowboys linebacker, Jaylon Smith talked about playing for Jerry Jones, why Notre Dame will beat Indiana, and more! Download the DraftKings Sportsbook App today: https://dkng.co/bobbysports If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/MI/NJ/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/NH), 888-789-7777/visit http://ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 1-877-770-STOP (7867) (LA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), call/text TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA). 21+ (18+ WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/LA/MI/NJ/ NY/PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. N/A in NH/OR/ON. New customers only. Valid 1 per new customer. Min. $5 deposit. Min $5 wager. $200 issued as eight (8) $25 free bets. Ends 9/19/22. See http://draftkings.com/sportsbook for details. Follow the Show: @BobbyBonesSports Follow the Crew: @MrBobbyBones @ProducerEddie @KickoffKevin @MikeDeestro @ReidYarberrySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Blood whistle.
We are here.
Last night, I fell asleep before the end of the game,
but Broncos lost.
I hated that.
So I guess Broncos and Chargers are now 9 and 6.
Yes.
And then there's a drop kick thing
where if you fair catch it,
wherever you're fair catch it.
You can then, if you want to,
try kick a field goal from there.
That didn't happen since, I think,
the bronosaurus,
around the earth.
Yeah.
It's been like 50 years or something.
I got to be honest with you.
I know that rule.
I'd not seen that rule.
It looks like a Canadian football league rule more than something here.
You guys saw that live?
Not live.
Okay, because I didn't either.
I was flip.
But yeah, kind of weird and cool.
I wonder if they knew that pride.
Like, did he fair catch it on purpose?
there for that reason.
Because I didn't hear them talking pre-in postage.
Watch the clip. Do you know?
No, but there's also a penalty.
Yes, which is why it was moved back.
Yes. Okay. So that's...
But my question was, yes, because they had to move the kickback.
Yeah. So was it, hey, if you can fair catch it,
we'll try to kick it. Who cares, right?
It had to be, though. Like...
Who care? I literally don't care.
Yeah. But it is cool.
Yeah.
Because it was different.
Reed, did you watch it?
No, I was thinking of a completely different type of drop kick.
Oh, were you dropping on the ground and kicking the field goal?
No, I was thinking of like the kicker got drop kicked.
Oh.
Oh, Reed heard us talking about it.
He thought like Chris Jericho came out.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
Drop kick.
Really?
Yeah. I don't know.
I thought it was a fight or something.
I don't know what you were talking about.
Reed got in a wreck yesterday.
Oh, Reed.
Did you really?
On my way home, man.
Bad?
No, I wasn't too bad.
I mean, I was about to get on to the highway over here,
but a lady pulled out in front of me
and I hit her
and then the greatest part about it
hold on because you need to say
because people will go
oh you hit her
when you say it like that
she pulled out in front of you
yeah like right in front of you
her fault
let's just get that
completely clear
yeah it was your fault
yeah
re takes responsibility
for everything
he's having his fault
no no no no
he's so sweet like that
yeah go ahead
no but the greatest part
was then she left
it's like a hit and run
in the middle
but there were so many people around
like people were filming her
as she was driving off
it's like a god hit and run
but it was your fault
got hit. Yeah. I got hit
and run. And then it took like
25 minutes for the cops to get there.
Probably had other stuff to do. Yeah. I saw a cop
literally drive over my rubble,
look at me, and keep going.
It was probably the end of his shift.
Because I was like, oh, finally, he's here.
Maybe getting a robber or something.
Wrong one. Yeah. But the right one eventually came?
The right one eventually came. Yep.
Your car messed up? Yeah, it's pretty jacked up.
And I... How'd you get in
today? Well, half of
my plastic underneath the wheel flew off while I was on the highway today getting here.
So that was fun.
Oh, my.
I didn't know.
I didn't know it was loose under there.
Well, your insurance, what's your deductible?
Do you know?
I do not know.
But the cop was making it seem like.
Do you know what a deductible is?
Yeah, like how much you have to already have paid for.
Or you have to pay now.
Yeah.
You don't know what it is before you get it fixed.
Did you call your insurance company?
I haven't yet.
I haven't yet.
I called them today.
Even though you got a wreck yesterday midday?
Yeah.
Do you know how much the damage is going to be?
No.
Why did you not call the insurance company yesterday?
I know.
I should have.
It doesn't matter, though, if you have the police report.
I think if you have that, then you can call them kind of whenever.
But I would say it gets fixed faster.
The faster you make the call and the more you know you have to pay in order to get it fixed
and Christmas is coming up and are you going to get a rental car, all those things
factor in based on how quickly you make your decision to call the insurance company.
And insurance companies are, you know, they'll look for any way to.
Oh yeah, for sure
For sure
Yeah, he gave me like that little
It's got like the little number on the
On the ticket that he said that I just give that to him
So what's up with the lady?
Did you get a license plate or anything?
I got her license plate
I mean she drove off like at like three miles an hour
She could go to the paper house?
He doesn't know who she or where she is
And also she thought about stopping didn't she?
She did
She pulled in front of me and like I put my hazards on
And she kind of stopped and stayed there
And then some lady walked up
And she was talking to her for a second
and so I was about to get out of my car
and then all of a sudden she just slowly started
back into the lane
and then just kind of got right in front of somebody else
and just kind of slowly went away.
She's like whistling, thinking no one sees her.
Just into the distance.
I'm like, there's literally people out here
just filming you.
Like, be patient.
Literally.
Dang.
So she went 100% didn't have a license,
had drugs in the car.
Wait.
No, he's saying, he's giving one of the...
Oh.
Well, you can't say 100%.
Not all that.
No, you're thinking.
Either or.
Yeah.
100% that there you are. I would think she other had no insurance, the person had no insurance,
or worn out for their arrest, or they shouldn't be here. There are reasons why.
Well, I'm sorry that happened to you. I would call insurance immediately.
Yeah, even when we finish this, just and ask if you get a rental car as part of,
because, again, if you're traveling for the holidays, that's not going to be good.
I was thinking, I was thinking I could make it, if I could make it home, then I'll be home for like five or six days.
You're going to drive six, seven hours on a broken car? Yeah, that's true. The problem is you don't know what's really
broke. Oh, you mean home like Arkansas?
Yes. Oh, no, no, no, no.
Just call and see if they'll give you a rental car.
I think he met home here.
No. Even that, though, I'm like,
No. He's like, I was driving in. Two wheels came on.
That's what he said. I think the worst of it flew off, though, to be honest.
I drove on Sparks for eight miles. Yeah, because I was worried about it because it was kind of loose, but like it was still attached.
No, it's gone.
We're going to do an interview here. You should go call your insurance company.
Okay. Yeah, I'll do that. We're going to have Andy Staples. He's on right now.
one of my favorites when it comes to covering college football Andy Staples.
He's worked for SI, the athletic, now works for On 3.
He's got his own show 9.30 a.m. Eastern, Monday through Thursday.
Listen wherever you get your podcast.
Big thanks to Andy for coming on and previewing the big weekend and just talking sports.
And he has a microphone in his car, which you hear, we were super shocked.
Legit.
By the way, this is a great one because he's really funny.
I'm honestly thinking to myself when we start this.
Oh, he must not have got back to his wherever he was doing the interview from.
his studio, his hotel, if he's covering a game where his podcast setup is, where he has a microphone,
and he's in his car, and the audio in a car is never as good because you do it on your phone.
And I'm a little like, oh, man, and then all of a sudden he pulls a microphone from like under his seat.
And it sounded amazing.
Wild.
Here he is.
Andy Staples.
Oh, he's got a mic.
Oh, dang, that's awesome.
We do the professional setup from this rented Nissan Frontier here in suburban Indianapolis.
I'm letting people down when I don't drive around with a mic now.
I feel like I'm a loser.
That's the coolest thing I've ever seen.
Mike, let me know when we're rolling.
We are rolling.
Do we happen to have me being surprised they pulled a mic out of his glove box?
We do.
We have that own.
Holy crap.
Andy, dude, I'm a big fan.
So thank you for coming on and talking with us.
Well, thank you, Bobby.
I appreciate this.
Yeah, this is a...
I've sort of learned to have everything everywhere.
It goes back to my original career as a newspaper reporter.
I was an intern at Florida.
today down in Melbourne, Florida.
I got a sign to do some generic editorial on beating the heat,
and I had the brilliant idea of going to the nude beach and asking those people what they did to beat the heat and not get sunburned.
And I realized that I was dressed in the dress code of the newspaper.
I was wearing a white polo shirt and green slacks, which made me look exactly like a Brevard County Sheriff's deputy.
So they were all running away from me.
And then I realized at that moment, like, always be prepared for anything that might happen.
So I always keep a change of clothes.
I keep multiple kinds of clothes with me.
And I keep every single audio visual piece of equipment I need if I might need to get on somebody's podcast, video or audio.
It's A-plus, and now I shall set up a full studio in the back of my car.
Like, I've been motivated.
Sometimes you get inspired in the most random of places.
And today it's Andy Staples.
Hey, let's start.
Andy, you're the guy I want to talk to about this.
So Carson Beck, not going to play first round, maybe not going to play at all.
Who knows?
But what's up with Georgia?
Obviously, that's their guy, but it's not like he's been playing great all year.
Your thoughts on Georgia's shot now?
Yeah, it's interesting, the reaction to it because Gunner Stockton probably played better
than Carson Beck in the SEC championship game against Texas.
And so the thought is, is it really going to be that different?
And, you know, I don't know that Carson made that big of a difference
for Georgia this year, as long as Gunner Stockton is what we saw in that second half of the SEC
championship game. Now, that could have just been him playing out of his mind because the adrenaline's
running, but my guess is Gunner Stockton with three weeks of practice with the ones. Because remember,
this wasn't a situation where the backup was getting a lot of playing time outside of mop-up duty.
So when he went into that game, he probably had had no practice with the ones that week. I mean,
they were operating clearly from a very limited menu. But this is a guy who,
who's been with the program the entire time.
You know, he knows their playbook.
So my guess is we see a more polished version of Gunner Stockton
when they play whoever wins the Notre Dame Indiana game.
And so I think they're going to be okay.
Because, again, you know, Carson Beck, good quarterback.
I don't know that he was a transcendent quarterback who,
without him, they can't be who they are.
I think they can still be a really good team and compete for the national title.
with a quarterback who's about the same.
So just one more Georgia question then regarding Beck,
because when the season started, he was the guy.
Most people were like number one quarterback off the board,
could be the number one overall pick.
Do you feel like that was a miscalculation,
that he really wasn't that,
or that he had some sort of, I don't like the pressure,
I'm not able to perform as well as, you know, my potential as.
Where do you think that fell off?
Well, it fell off when Ladd-McConkey went to the Chargers
and Brock Bowers went to the Raiders. That's where it fell off. I mean, he had elite targets last year,
and he doesn't have those this year. And certain quarterbacks make their targets better,
and certain targets make their quarterbacks better. And I think Brock Bowers, you've seen he's
probably the best tight end in the NFL already. So you see what he was probably doing for George's
offense. And then Ladman-Conkie, obviously, was a huge contributor to George's offense as well.
So I think that probably has more to do with it than anything else.
College football playoff,
greatest thing to happen in sports to me in the past 20 years
because it made so many games matter the last two and three weeks of the season.
You know, aside from how you feel about the seedings
and I think there are things they're going to learn this year and going to change.
But for me, it was great not even because of the tournament,
but because of what mattered the last three and four weeks of the regular season.
So I'm big A plus fan of it.
That being said, there are some issues.
I think now you look and you go, probably you just give the top four seeds to the best four teams, et cetera, et cetera.
What do you think will be the first thing changed?
Because there won't be any wholesale changes.
They're not going to do five things at once.
What do you think when they finally do if they add teams first, if they change halve the seating?
What do you think they'll change first?
Well, I was under the impression that they would keep this exact format for the first two years
because that's the last two years of the original TV deal for the college football playoff.
and then they would change whatever they wanted to change for 26.
But it sounds like they can change the seating for next year if they really want to.
People realized very quickly.
And we said it all season.
All season we were like, well, the five seed's probably going to have the best situation.
Turned out the sixth seed probably actually has the cleanest path in this particular case.
Because I don't think any of us predicted that the Mountain West champ would get the three seed
and the Big 12 champ would get the four seed.
I don't think we may have thought the Big 12 champ would get the four seed.
but we figured probably the ACC champ would be the three seed.
So I think that probably showed when that bracket came out.
It's like, all right, this is ridiculous.
Because Penn State probably wound up with a better path than Oregon into the semifinals
and Oregon beat Penn State in the Big Ten championship game.
And I know people say, oh, but Penn State has to play another game.
Okay, I would rather play SMU and then Boise State than have to play the winner of Tennessee, Ohio State.
Like, Oregon got punished for being the number one seed, and you can't have that.
So have your automatic qualifiers, have your automatic bids for five conference champs.
That's fine.
But if they are not in the top four seats, don't give them buys.
Give the teams ranked one through four of the buys, and then everybody else populates from there.
You think they'll add after, not next year, but as you were talking about the two-year, second, you know, the last two years of the initial deal,
do you think they'll add two more teams, four more teams into this?
The push has been for two from the Big Ten, and I understand why.
The Big Ten and the SEC would like their championship games to be very meaningful.
And the thought this year is, oh, you know, all four of the teams in those championship games are in the playoff anyway, so what's the point of this?
Like the ACC championship game, which weirdly both teams got in, but it didn't feel like that at the time.
the Big 12 championship game was definitely a win and in scenario.
Like this format raises the stakes of those games, but it lowers the stakes of the Big Ten
championship and the SEC championship.
But if you only had two buys because you had 14 teams, chances are those two buys are going
to your Big Ten champ and your SEC champ, which suddenly makes those games more valuable.
And this is all about money.
They don't really need to play those anymore, but they make a ton of money off of.
them. The conferences don't want to let them go yet. So I think that is their solution to create
bigger stakes for those games. I respect your opinion a lot. And so I'm going to ask about one more
rule change. And if you were the guy changing the rule, you got to, if you were king, would you,
and when you become king, would you change the Dr. Pepper halftime ball throwing thing from chess
passes or give them a basketball? Because that's the dumbest thing. I saw, I can't remember which
championship game was I want to say it was the
Big 12 championship game.
So, yes, for
those who don't know, the
Dr. Pepper challenge
is basically
two people trying to throw footballs
into a giant Dr. Pepper bottle for
a scholarship. And they do this during the
halftime of the championship games for the
various conferences. And it is
the competition has devolved.
It started out with people throwing footballs like
quarterbacks throw footballs. And now
they do chess passes. But here's the thing,
And this is brilliant.
There was a guy, or no, actually it was a young lady.
She was throwing option pitches, like triple option pitches like she played for a service academy.
And she was deadly accurate and she just destroyed.
She was going against the guy who was chest passing and she destroyed him.
So I actually fell back in love with it because the option pitch is just as great as throwing a football the right way.
I think the option pitch, I'd be okay with that.
The chess pass is just, maybe it's not, maybe it needs to be 10 yards farther.
And I don't want it to be where somebody doesn't have a good arm, they can't play, right?
You don't want someone who can't throw a football.
Right.
But it's just when you have two people throwing basketball chess pass from like drills in sixth grade.
It doesn't look, it's not that fun.
And you should look forward to that.
Well, I did, I will say I went crazy when Josh Allen threw a chess pass in an NFL game.
Now, it got called back because of holding, but he threw a chess pass.
for a touchdown.
I'm not convinced he was watching game tape on one of them.
Hey, let's talk about Quinn Ewers for a second and Arch Manning and not even so much about
what's happening in the playoff, but now is Quinn Ewer is going to go?
Is he going to take whatever money from some mythical Big Ten school that's going to offer
him $4 million to stay?
What do you think is happening here?
Well, it's interesting because this is one of these weird things that happens in the NIL era
now that was never an issue before.
Because before, Quinn Ewers would just be headed the NFL.
It'd be, well, I'm probably not going to stay at Texas because we kind of had this deal that
it's Arch's time next year.
So I'm going to the NFL and I'll be making more money than I'd make in college.
But if Quinn Ewers isn't a first round pick and he isn't a second round pick,
once you get into the third, fourth rounds, the money Quinn Ewers could command at a big time
school might be bigger than what he'd make as a third rounder.
So if you're him, it's actually worth considering.
You have to really consider, like, where's my draft stock?
Could I potentially raise it with another year in college?
And if that's the case, can I make the same or more money in college?
Because if I can, I'm going to stay.
I mean, you're looking at Bo Nix now in the NFL.
If Bo Nix didn't have those two years at Oregon, he's not what he is in the NFL.
right now. He is that because he had 60 starts under his belt going in. So if I'm Quinn,
I actually do consider that heavily. I want to know from the NFL people, honestly, what do you
think I am? Where do you think I fall? Because if they think he's a late first round, early second
round pick, just go to the league. Just go to the league and you're going to play and you're going to
get paid more. But if they don't think that or they're not sure, then yeah, get another year of
college, make a bunch of money, do some more Dr. Pepper commercials, do some fansville,
by Dr. Pepper.
I hope for the second, because good Lord, we've talked about them a lot.
But yeah, do some more of that.
And it's weird that that's how it works now.
But he actually be more valuable as a one-year rental to a team in college than he would
be to an NFL team that takes him in the third round.
In the NBA and college basketball, obviously, these players are trying to get to their
second contract, right?
big deal you want to get in, get in early, and it's all about that second deal, where the
lifespan at times of an NFL player, not as long as that of an NBA player, depending on
especially what position you play, would that factor in at all to somebody who's like a second
or third round? Yeah, you might make less money, but you want to try to get to that second
deal. It's a four-year-in-an-an-option whenever you go to the NFL. Is that even being talked about?
If you're a running back, yeah. I mean, that's running backs don't want to stay in school.
If you have any chance of being pretty good in the NFL, you don't want the tread taking off your tires.
You want to get to that second contract.
Other positions where you're getting hit a lot and the injury risk is exceptionally high, you know, inside linebacker type positions,
those are other ones that you want to probably get to the NFL, start the clock on that second contract.
Quarterbacks have a little bit longer lifespan, typically.
Offensive linemen have a little bit longer lifespan.
edge rushers have a little bit longer lifespan.
So those guys do have decisions that they need to make
if they can raise their draft stock
while still making a really good amount of money in college.
What about Davo going to the portal?
First time. Not a virgin anymore.
It wasn't the first non-quarter.
See, nobody ever remembers
he took a quarterback out of the portal three years ago.
Three years ago, maybe two.
It was Hunter Johnson, who had originally signed
with Clemson and then didn't win the starting job. He was like a blue chip five-star guy.
He goes to Northwestern. Decides, you know what? I'm going to do my last year back at Clemson.
So that was the first transfer Dabo actually took. He did not take a single one this past year.
So Clemson and the service academies who don't take transfers were the only ones that didn't.
But yeah, he's in the portal now. And the reason they're doing this is you have this house versus the NCAA settlement that's coming where there's going to be a revenue
plan where the schools are allowed to pay the players directly.
So a program like Clemson, which doesn't have the biggest donor base, is going to have
money to pay players in a way that's competitive with the Alabama's and the Georgia's and the Ohio
states.
The problem for Clemson was, and Dava laid this out very nicely last spring, I thought, was
the players who are good enough to help Clemson, because remember, Clemson still recruits
out of high school at a really, really high level.
So the players that were good enough to help Clemson at the transfer portal,
Clemson was priced out of the market.
Well, now they're not.
So they go get the receiver from Southeast Missouri State.
They go get an edge rusher from Purdue.
They're going to be players in this.
It's not going to be wholesale.
It's not going to be a bunch of guys.
It's going to be plugging in its spots where you have some holes in the roster.
And I tell you what, Bobby, I think that puts Clemson right back where they want to be.
because that was the issue.
They'd have these little, you know,
they'd have these kind of glaring holes in the roster
that everybody else was filling in the portal,
and they weren't.
And there was a reason for that.
But now they can fix that.
I guess my half-opposing view of Dabo getting the quarterback
that he once had is he didn't get a quarterback from the portal.
He went back and got his own guy
because his own guy left in the portal,
and he went and rescued his own guy.
Yes, yes, yes.
And so I hate Texas.
I hate Texas. I hate Texas. I hate Texas.
I wish they would fall in a hole and not exist anymore.
Listen, I see those pigs.
I see those pigs at your desk.
I hate Texas. I hate everything about them.
And I don't want them to win, but man, defensively, they're defensive line.
It's a monster.
And we have Texas fans here on this show.
So I'm not going to say anything positive about Texas.
So would you say something positive about Texas to just kind of help balance us out?
Yes, nastiest defense in the country.
We spend so much time talking about Quinn and Arch,
and it's really unfair to a very, very sound group of defenders that of the,
let's say there's 12 teams in the college football playoffs,
so 12 offenses and 12 defenses, 24 units.
The Texas defense is the one I trust the most out of those 24.
Okay, cool. That's it.
We're good on that one, guys.
We're all Texas out.
No more positive Texas.
Thank you, Andy.
All right, back to hate doing.
Hey, Mike Vic, being a coach.
First of all, we saw it the Sacramento State that happens,
and it's like Mike Vic maybe, and then now it's not.
I didn't know Mike Vic coached.
So what do you know about this?
I didn't know either.
I didn't know this was something that was in his heart.
But, you know, it's interesting because he's,
if you've heard him talk after his football career,
after the dog fighting stuff, after the imprisonment,
you know, he sounds like someone.
who has changed quite a bit, who has grown up quite a bit.
And so, you know, I do wonder with people who've been through a lot in their lives and
who've done some things that they regret and have admitted that they regret doing those things,
like, there's probably something to teach to a younger generation.
So I don't know if that's going to work.
You know, we've seen guys come out, you know, who were very good players kind of go a little bit
faster into the coaching ranks or like move move to a position that they wouldn't have
normally gotten without the name i thought dion's done really well it eddie george's actually
done pretty well with it at tennessee state too so i think there's something to be and dion talks
about this he's like why should that guy have to grind it out as a g a when he has so many more
things that he can teach that the guy grinding it out as a g a can't so i think it's worth a shot
Now, Sacramento State wound up hiring Brennan
who did grind it out as a GA
and as an offensive coordinator at the FCS level
and then the FBS level.
So we'll see those two programs
how they differ going forward.
But I think it's interesting.
The Vic thing, I didn't realize that that was something he wanted,
but I am curious to see what he is as a coach.
And I guess aside from his troubles
and what he's done and hopefully learned and reformed,
and teach and can turn it positive.
As a head coach, I just think you'd probably want someone
that has a bit of not just the football,
but how to put together coordinators, how to organize.
So to me, more than if he's reformed as a person,
and maybe it's just because those schools want to splash
and they'll surround them with people
that actually know how to do that.
I was surprised because Vic hasn't ever coached anywhere
where I know Dion pretty well.
I'm lucky we did a TV pilot together.
We were together for months every day.
Love Dionne Sanders, like, that's my guy.
But Dion was coaching his kids high school.
Like he was a head coach there.
Then he went to Jackson State.
So at least there was a bit of a progression there where Mike Vic was just like,
there's Mike Vic, and now he's a head coach.
But they're going to have to surround with people that know how to do all these
structure things, right?
He's going to have to do that.
I mean, he's going to have to be able to do that.
And I think that that is a skill that maybe can't be taught.
and so he'll either be good at it or he won't.
You mentioned Dion had worked in coaching his sons before,
but when he takes the Jackson State job,
that's a completely different animal than what he'd been doing.
And he did a great job surrounding himself with the right people.
I don't think he hired very well the first year at Colorado.
He fixed that.
You know, you look at the second year at Colorado and the staff he put together,
that staff worked much better together and made that team better
as the season went on. So I think with Mike Vick, we don't know what he's going to be as a CEO.
And sometimes you don't know until you see it. We've seen it at various levels of sports where
somebody gets in as a CEO and they just aren't very good at it. They're a better assistant coach.
They are a head coach. And then you see guys like Ed Orgeron was a position coach. His whole career,
he's never even a coordinator. Urban Meyer was never a coordinator before he's a head coach.
And these guys are just natural CEOs.
I was reading your article, and by the way, you can read Andy's work at On3, which On3.com.
And I loved your idea. It even kind of feels like the basketball all-star game now where they
were picking, they picked their players and pick their teams. But how you were talking about
seed in the college football playoff. Would you talk about that idea for a second?
What you think the way to do it would be?
That was sent in by a viewer to my show. And I, God bless him. It's great because he understands,
like, he understands what we're doing here. Because this is entertainment.
And so instead of just seating the teams and saying this is who's playing who, like what they should have done is they should have ranked the teams and then you say, okay, here's the potential matchups.
But now we're going to go live to Dan Lannning, the coach of the number one Oregon Ducks.
He has to pick which first round matchup is going to feed into his game.
So essentially he has to insult these two teams by saying you're the two we think are the easiest to beat.
I would love like televise it.
You give him like five minutes to pick.
you have the Jeopardy theme music playing
and you're like, okay, Dan, who are you going to play?
It would be brilliant television.
And what I say a lot, and much as we love sports, live with it,
it is a TV show, right?
It's entertainment.
And you've got to find that balance between integrity and honesty
and the love of the game and entertainment
because if you have a whole bunch of one and not the other,
then there's no trust on the product.
But yeah, that would be like the greatest.
You know, another thing would be like when a player signs with the new team,
like DeAndre Hopkins, like,
They don't even say he's a chief until it's game time.
And it's like, all right, let's announce the new players this week on the team.
Oh my God, that's DeAndre Hopkins music.
Yes.
Like, you know, that will be the product we love.
Hey, talk about your podcast for a second because you guys go live,
which means where we do ours and we load it a couple hours later,
we get to edit.
You do yours live.
There's a bit of risk in that.
I don't know.
It's Andy and Ari on three podcasts.
Yeah.
But you guys are on, are you guys on four days a week?
We're actually on five days a week because we do a postgame show during the season,
and then once the season ends, we'll go, we'll be Monday through Friday in the mornings
with a more regular schedule.
But we go Monday through Thursday in the mornings right now, 9.30 a.m. Eastern time.
And me and Ari Wasserman, I find when Ari is taped, he's not as interesting.
Like, I don't want to edit out when Ari's really cooking.
That's the thing.
So we had Mike Golick Jr. on, you know, former Notre Dame offensive lineman who hosts his
own excellent podcast. And Mike was talking about how he puked before every game, because it was just
part of his process, and he gets his nerves out. And then so the interview ends, and Ari goes,
you know I puke before every show? And I'm like, okay, we're doing a bit here. And then he starts
talking about how the post-puk feeling is one of the greatest feelings in life. I'm like,
Ari, I have an ad to read after this. I know this advertiser, just
not want to juxtapose you talking about how great it feels to puke with their product.
So we're going to move on here.
But if we edit, then we don't get things like that.
We need moments like that.
So I am all for the live.
And you can interact with the commenters, which I'm guilty of getting sucked into that a
little too much.
But no, it's a lot of fun.
And we go live after games too.
So after the college football playoff games, the last one of the night, we'll go live.
So if you want to come heckle us, you want to come ask us questions, come on.
Because I love that the viewer has a chance to interact with us.
And I find that the people who watch us regularly, they are so creative.
We do a mailbag show every Thursday, and they send in all the questions.
That idea for the seating was a mailbag question.
I love our audience because they're so smart and they love college football.
And so, yeah, if you guys want to join that group,
they're the smartest, best-looking audience.
I have a friend named Chris Childers, who works for Sirius XM.
He says that all of his doctors listen to our show.
But you don't have to be a doctor.
Any profession is welcome.
Check out to Andy and Ari on three podcast and read Andyon3.com.
Hey, big fan of your work have been for a long time.
And at even other institutions, I won't even mention here.
But keep up to good work.
And thank you for the time.
And now I have to go build a complete podcast studio on the back of my car.
I got stuff to do today.
But Andy, have a great weekend.
What a fun weekend it is, and hopefully I'll talk to you soon.
Thank you, Bobby.
I followed your career for a while, and you're an inspiration to all of us who are doing
this stuff.
So thank you for having me on.
All right, there he is, Andy Staples.
Thanks, Andy.
Have a good day, buddy.
Okay, the Bengals, they're 6 and 8.
They have a 6.5% chance to make the playoffs.
So the remaining games are the Browns, the Broncos, the Steelers.
They need some stuff to happen.
Yeah.
But they still can.
make the playoffs. The Cowboys,
they need the commanders to lose every game.
What's the number? Well, if...
Do you not say I'm getting there? I would have led with that if that's what I wanted first.
Okay, yeah, you're right. If the Cowboys win all three games,
one of them's against the commanders, though. Correct. Eagles, commanders,
yep. And then Bucks.
Which, this week.
I think the Bucks and the commanders are games they could actually win.
The Eagles would be tough.
Yeah.
But, okay, if the Cowboys are...
Cowboys went all three games.
Oh, my gosh.
And the commanders lose all three,
but what makes that a bit easier
is you get to actually play the commander.
So you beat the commanders,
you win the other two.
They lose the other two.
I have to look at their schedule.
If I remember, their schedule was not easy.
And then there's a couple of teams in the middle of them,
like the Seahawks.
They have to lose somewhere in there, too?
Yeah.
Cardinals, I believe, are in the middle of that.
I mean, it's a huge, like, shot in the dark.
What's the schedule there?
Everybody have the commanders?
Yeah, they play the Eagles, then the Falcons, and then the Cowboys to wrap up the season.
They got the Falcons.
They get loose to the Eagles, no doubt.
Well, Pennix is starting this week.
Right.
The Cowboys have 0.2% chance.
Exactly.
I knew it.
They're not out, though.
Zero point.
They're not out, though.
As long as you're still in it, you're in it, baby.
There is no chance.
Which is good.
I mean, really, like if they made the playoffs, and they would just get destroyed round one.
Maybe not.
Look at the buck last year.
Yeah.
Because they won a game, didn't they?
Yeah, they beat the Eagles.
Yeah, and they lost the Lions barely, right?
Yeah, almost beat the try.
It's pretty crazy, though.
Like, we're not, as Cowboys fans, we are not used to this kind of season.
We at least go to the playoffs.
Right.
And now it's like, we're not going.
Right now you're setting yourself up for disappointment.
Usually.
Now you're actually disappointed, which is weird.
It's already happened.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, so we also have an admission here,
and I'd like to blame two.
people for this and neither of them or me.
Oh, okay. I love
to put something on somebody else. I'm definitely one of them.
Reed, you are not one of them.
Jesus. It's me and Kevin.
And it's not Casey.
So it is Eddie and Kevin, and I blame
Kevin way, way, well,
I'm probably slightly less than Eddie.
Really? Slightly. Because Eddie took the credit for it.
Oh, that's true.
Eddie could at least step in and said that wasn't true.
What are we talking about? Yeah, you know what? Actually, when you say it like that,
I agree. So last week, we had...
Why do you two know what we're talking about?
Last week we hit our parlay and everybody kept hitting me going, you didn't hit your parlay.
I hit mine, Kevin and his, and you took credit for yours, you didn't hit yours.
We did not win.
You lost.
Oh, really?
Yeah, you lost.
What did I?
I took the Packers, didn't I?
You took the Seahawks.
Yeah, Seahawks.
Oh my God.
And when we came on, we're talking about it, you're like, yep, yep, yep, yep.
And everybody's like, Eddie lost.
What's he talking about?
That's hilarious.
Really?
So I didn't know until I started getting DMs and Kevin took blame for you.
He goes, no, I wrote that down wrong on the sheet.
So, okay.
It's a good man, right.
You can have a little bit of it.
Wow.
But mostly Eddie just was like, yep, guess we got it.
Hope everybody won.
Dang, so I went Seahawks on that?
What was I thinking?
What was I thinking, man?
That's crazy.
We had a buddy, Steve, who's a massive Cowboys fan,
and he bet a seven-game parlay, hit six,
and he lost on the Cowboys and Panthers because he bet the Panthers.
What an idiot.
The thing about Steve is he's a massive Cowboys fan.
We're like, why did you bet against your team?
Just don't bet the game at all.
And he was like, well, all the experts were saying,
it's like, hey, I don't bet against my team.
I never bet against Arkansas.
Because I don't want to have a split route.
I don't ever want one part of me to not want them to win.
Correct.
So if I think that that's the case and I would bet that, I'm not betting that.
And that kept them from making a ton of money.
I have taken the Cowboys out of many, many, many parlays because I will not bet against them.
That's just what you do as a fan.
There's already enough emotion in it.
You won't take credit, though.
Man, I really thought I picked the Packers.
Did you?
I haven't even thought about it from that perspective, but you're really.
Right. You sat there
just taking it. He just, like a...
It's my grandma says.
Wouldn't you, though?
Yeah, before like two days, I'm like, damn, I messed up, man.
I messed up, I messed up. And then I'm like,
well, actually, I guess I could have been saved if Eddie
remember his bad. All the listeners were hitting me up.
Being like, Eddie's lying. Eddie's lying. He didn't hit.
He didn't hit. I didn't lie. I just said like, cool.
He did.
No. I didn't lie.
Terrible.
Okay, let's pick some games here.
25 whistles parlay on draft kings.
The spreads are so big.
Yeah.
They're so big, I can't even go money line because that's so, that would be so cheap.
You're looking at college?
Well, that's all in bed.
I mean, it's a college football playoff.
Why not?
You have to.
That's like the most exciting.
I mean, like, yeah, I got to do college.
Okay, I'm going to go.
I don't even want, I hear you, but it's like, or I'm not going to do four.
I don't want to put it on the app.
Oh, is it going on the app this time?
No, but it's four.
Before it'll go up.
I don't want to go up because I don't, like, I usually will pick a game and go like, I
feel confident. And in those single games, I don't think I missed yet.
Which means I'll miss this week probably.
Well, the Indiana Notre Dame games on Friday. The other three are on Saturday.
So which would be tonight. We're recording this late Thursday. Go ahead.
So I was going to say if you do the three, then three Saturday ones maybe?
I think Notre Dame beats Indiana by more than seven.
It's Notre Dame minus seven. So I'm going to go Notre Dame minus seven.
I think I hate Texas and Clemson so much. I can't pick that game.
I hate them both.
It's a tough one.
And I hate Texas more, but like,
I hate Clemson, only because Davo.
I think Penn State beats SMU by more than eight and a half.
I'm going to one with two favorites so far.
And then I'll go Tennessee plus seven and a half.
I like it.
So, Notre Dame minus seven, Penn State minus eight and a half,
Tennessee plus seven and a half.
That's my parley.
I got to say, I wait from Clemson, Texas,
just because it's a motion pick.
Yeah.
And here's my emotion.
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I got to go to the frigging jets making personnel decisions because of Madden,
which is hilarious. I play Madden.
And Casey's a big Jets fan.
And so the story I read with the Atlantic is that, first of all, the grandson of Woody Johnson
has been making a lot of the personnel decisions, apparently, which is hilarious.
Makes a lot of sense.
I was going to ask how 17.
Yeah.
Is he really that young?
I think he's 17.
Oh, my goodness.
You may look at he's a teenager.
I wasn't true.
Yeah, I know he's young.
And so I'll read just some of this from the, excuse me, the athletic.
The piece of the story focuses on Woody Johnson, who's been hands-on,
but what he says, I did not expect to learn,
that his son's Brick and Jack,
whose love for the Madden franchise,
seems to influence the owner of the team.
The Jets owner next to trade for Jerry Judy last off-season
because his EA sports rating was too low.
What on earth?
See, this is how I'd be a coach.
Yeah.
Yeah, and now I'm just saying, this is why I'll be a coach.
It's not like a TV show.
It's not only their video.
game ratings that have factored into their personnel decisions.
Aaron Rogers was urging patience when the owner wanted to make a hasty move this season,
like firing Roger Salah.
I don't know if that's sure or not, but whatever.
If we're going to believe one, we should consider all of them here.
Yeah.
The 17-year-old, what's his name?
Is that Brick?
Looks like Breck.
Yeah, he's been heavily involved.
It'd be cool for Grandpa White's team.
For him?
Yeah, imagine going to school.
Hey, what do you guys want to do?
What do you want to do on Sunday?
Just let me know.
See it?
Madden will accept this trade
and if it doesn't
like that's how they're like seeing
That's crazy
Yeah
That's your team what you want to say
It just the Jets just never failed a surprise
You know what I mean
That's what I've been dealing with my whole adult life
With this team
It's hilarious
Have you watched the Aaron Rogers
Docky?
Is it up?
I saw the trailer
But yeah I haven't checked it out
I gotta watch it
I can't
I can't
You can watch it
He's so cringy
Everything about
You should have saw the trailer then.
He's in like Peru with like a tank top on that.
Oh, I saw someone on TikTok where he was like high on something.
Yeah.
Oh, my goodness.
He's like talking about the whole drama with his family and the whole bachelor thing.
Yeah.
So he's involved in it.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's all on him.
No, but there's a difference on if it's on him and he's involved in it.
Oh, okay.
Gotcha.
Yeah.
Yeah, like I wonder if he had final cut, which means he had decisions about what it wouldn't go in.
He had to.
Does it make him more likable?
I mean, I don't know, it's indifferent to me.
It's because it's all the same stuff that we already kind of know about his family and stuff like that.
So I didn't really take that much out of it.
Then again, it was just the trailer.
So I got to, I haven't seen it.
No, no.
Four months ago, I was rooting for Aaron Rogers.
So it's like I was like, let's go.
He's cringe.
Everything about him's cringe now.
The timing of this release is just not good either.
Well, even like the stuff on magazine is happening now.
Just shows that they thought that this was going to be some thing this season.
Yeah, true.
I thought the Jets would be better.
Yeah, better than four wins, for sure.
Yeah, and even like the stuff on McAfee that's happening now,
but he's also with Ryan Clark,
and they're like feuding.
Yeah.
And Rogers was like, you know, before whatever,
all I want to know before we get into any more feud is what I know,
have you been vaccinated?
And it's like we're still doing vaccine jokes.
Yeah, that was a long time ago.
And that was literally like two days ago.
He was doing this on McAfee.
And if you are, then you're freaking moron.
It turns nothing you say.
That's my quarterback, baby.
Five years removed for that.
Go to a different well.
But yeah, he is a douchebag.
Yeah.
Dang.
Come a long way.
Complete flip.
If I were like a member of Congress, you'd be like he's a flip-flopper.
I was very pro- Aaron Rogers, and now he's just the worst.
The Charlotte Hornets.
Oh, you don't talk about this, the PS5?
I do.
It's whacked, man.
I can't believe they did that.
Do you guys know the story yet?
No.
Go ahead, Eddie.
So there's a halftime little presentation where Santa comes up and the Charlotte Hornets like give a kid a PS5.
He wins it.
Oh my gosh.
Everyone's like, that's so cool.
And then they walk off and the cameras turn away and they take the PS5 back and they give him a jersey.
And so people that were there are saying like, no, I saw it happen.
And even the kid's uncle is like, no, that's exactly what happened.
They took the PS5 back.
We just got a jersey.
So then the Charlotte Hornets are like, look, I'm sorry.
We apologize.
We made it right, though.
We gave him a real PS5.
And now he has like, you know, season tickets or whatever.
Yeah, weird PR move.
Bad flag.
That move.
What the hell?
They take the PS5 from the locker room or something?
I don't know.
We got it.
We got it.
We got it.
We got it.
Everybody else had that gets back, though.
That's pretty good.
There was no explanation of why they even did that.
It's almost like, what movie was that with Will Ferrell?
Is it semi-pro?
Oh, it is semi-pro?
Where they're like, I will get a million dollars for a half-course.
So everyone shows up.
They're like, we don't have a million dollars.
Like, hey, I'll never make it.
He makes it.
He makes it.
Did you guys ever the Bulls version of that?
Uh-uh.
Or the guy made the shot, it was over half-quoise.
Maybe three-quarter shot.
And he signed up and he hits it.
And he wins, I think, a million dollars.
Oh, maybe I'm mixing the two.
But in the fine print, it said you could have never had some sort of, like, professional.
And he played, like, some weird for, like, a year.
And they never gave him the money.
That's so stupid.
And so, like,
People, like, Jordan got involved.
It's pretty interesting.
There may be a 30 for, there, there's some.
They might have been in the last dance.
No.
That would be random to throw that in there.
I think I watched whatever, whatever it is.
I think I watched all the clips on TikTok for the whole series.
But yeah, I know he hits the shot.
The whole team's going crazy.
Jordan's jumping on.
I'm like, yeah, he thought he just won whatever it was.
100,000, 500,000 million bucks.
And they never gave it to him.
Or at least they didn't then.
Now I don't remember how it ended.
Yeah, I don't remember.
Okay.
let's go to our talk with former NFL linebacker Jalen Smith
Jaylen was a Consentist of All-American Notre Dame
projected top three draft pick
he blew out his knee in a bowl game against Ohio State
drafted by the Cowboys in the second round in 2016
awesome career
you can still tell by this interview
especially he still loves Notre Dame already thinks are going to be
Indiana moving on to the next which is pretty funny
and then I called him on it's like that's not what I meant
so yeah pretty cool here he is Jalen Smith
super cool to have Jalen Smith on
Hey, Jalen, just a warning.
One of my guys here is a massive, diehard, lifelong Dallas Cowboys fan.
So if he hits you with a whole lot of Cowboys questions,
like, I just say, because I'm going to ask you like some Notre Dame,
college football playoff, but he's such a Cowboys fan.
I just like to preface that with going, sorry.
Hey, you, if you're a diehard Cowboys fan, it's a, it gets real all year round.
Yeah, I bet it.
Let's just start with that.
Okay.
So this is my friend Eddie.
Eddie, lead us off with a good Dallas Cowboys question.
I mean, come on. What's up, Jalen?
What's going on, brother?
Dude, my first question is like, I mean, obviously, I love the Cowboys.
My whole family loves the Cowboys.
But what does the rest of the country think about us?
When you go play other places as a Dallas Cowboy,
do they just hate us or do they love us?
I will say that if you're a Dallas Cowboys,
it's like there's no in between.
It's either you love, absolutely love the Dallas Cowboys
or you hate everything about what Jerry Jones has going on.
And being a Cowboys for Life,
I understand the magnitude or the significance
when we talk about America's team.
The whole America's team thing is very real.
It's very true.
And it's not going to change.
So how do you feel when an adult man says we
But like Eddie's not on the team
But you actually played for them for years
Yeah how do you feel like that?
I don't mind it because
Like I said I understand the importance of
What the Dallas Cowboys has done for
The sport
It's a global entity
And there's nothing short of it
It's a reason why I still live in Dallas to this day
I want to talk about
when you were drafted because, I mean, you were on the cusp,
but I think you were drafted at 34th overall,
which was like one of the first couple picks in the second day.
Going into the draft,
were you feeling, where did you feel you could go?
From what pick to what pick were they telling you?
And then when it was the Cowboys at that 34th pick, like, how did that feel?
So prior to my injury, I was going to be a top three pick.
So having that injury in the bowl game,
the Fiesta Bowl kind of shifted the narrative for,
really for all of college sports.
I created the J-Lismith rule of people being allowed to sit out of bowl games because of risk of injury.
If you look at my draft stock and where I was going, what I accomplished in college and, you know, what I was prepping to do at the next level.
So prior to the NFL draft, you know, like the first rounders get the invite to go to wherever they're hosting the draft.
and all of these different things.
And for us players that have been watching the draft for a long time growing up,
it's always a dream when you know you're going to be a first round pick to go to draft night.
I got some extreme detail and insight really from a legendary guy by the name of Gil Brandt,
who told me that I wasn't going to be drafted on day one.
So have an opportunity to spend time at home really allowed me to manage my emotions,
manage my ego, and all these different things.
Now, I wasn't expecting to be the third pick in the second round.
So when I was like
As soon as I got to my draft party
Within 10 minutes
My number was called
And there was a 214 number
Dallas Texas
Mind you at the time
My older brother
Ross Smith was playing on the Dallas Cowboys
He just finished his rookie year
Our father is a diehard Dallas Cowboys fan
So when I seen that area code out
It was just a blessing
Because I knew I was going to get an opportunity
to not only play with my brother for the first time
because he went to Ohio State,
and I'm an other day guy,
but being able to play for our dad's favorite team
is definitely a family dream come true.
How cool is it to put the uniform on and the helmet on
for the very first time?
Nothing like it, nothing like it,
because you understand the value that comes with it.
You understand going into it the degree of
stardom or celebrity or
you know just have an opportunity to wear that uniform
it means a lot for sure
so growing up in fort Wayne Indiana which I've been to Fort Wayne
a bunch of times live what a couple hours in Fort Wayne now
like our radio shows in Fort Wayne have toured through Fort Wayne
like I've been there it's cold that's my point like it's a cold place
it's like colder than where we live all the time Fort Wayne's cold now
when you decide to go to Notre Dame to meet
obviously Notre Dame one of the blue bloods in football it's also
also very cold. I have a friend that
played in Notre Dame, Golden Tate, and I asked him, I was
like, man, that's a whole different world. Like, it's cold.
And I got to imagine when you get up there, some of these guys that come from
Texas, Florida, and they come up to Notre Dame.
Like, it's like an introduction to new
elements in the weather, right? To play football in?
Absolutely. Because
father time is undefeated, and you
don't know, you know,
what our father is going to put us through when it comes weather-wise.
You can't control it.
And it's really that second semester after the season when you've got to go back on campus.
There's no football being played.
There's no training or practice that's happening.
And you've got to walk through negative 10-degree weather to get to your arts class,
to your Portuguese class, to your.
your finance or trigonometry class
is not a fun thing
when the windshield is in your face
and you feel like your lips are frozen
but I will say
man we play some great football at Notre Dame
and it's a rich tradition
it's a global entity
it's like the Dallas Cowboys
Notre Dame the New York Yankees
like those
institutes are in
a whole different class.
So it's a lot of appreciation for it,
but there's a lot of my teammates
who come from down south,
and boy, they hate it.
Well, if someone comes to you now and says,
hey, they're a 17-8-year-old kid,
four or five-star recruit,
Coach Freeman's recruiting them,
and they're like, Jaylon, like,
what's the one reason?
Let's take NIL out of it.
Well, like, what's the one reason about Notre Dame
that would make me want to go
and stay and be fighting IRA?
It's so deeper than just getting an opportunity to play the game that you love at the next level.
It's about the relationships that you create that last a long time.
It lasts for the next 40 years rather than just four years.
It's not just about a college education.
It's about the network that you're being aligned with.
And in any city, any state, any country that you live or go into, someone knows about Notre Dame.
I was in South Africa a few years ago walking down the street and somebody had a Notre Dame hat on.
So that's the biggest thing.
That's the biggest benefit.
It's a real people's university.
And the alumni, we take it.
We don't take it lightly.
how we understand the importance of togetherness.
And that's what I love about Notre Dame.
I'm an hour and a half.
I was born and raised in Fort Wayne, Indiana,
so an hour and a half from Notre Dame.
And I'm a mama's boy,
so I didn't want to go away from home for college.
You know, I wanted to be close by.
Like I said, my older brother played at Ohio State,
so I was able to take my own path by choosing Notre Dame.
And I love it.
I can't wait to be there Friday.
Yeah, so let's talk about that because I'm a big coach Freeman guy.
I just, like, I'd play for, I suck.
I would never make the team, but I would.
Like, whatever he wants.
You didn't, you didn't suck.
No, I would say right now, I'd be like, I'm in.
Whatever you want me to do, coach, I'll be a wedge buster right now and I will die right now.
And so what has Coach Freeman done?
Like, what's the, for that culture at Notre Dame?
I think he's, he sparked the urgency for greatness.
And that's what us alumni we see, we feel.
You know, I've had a great opportunity to form a relationship with which coach Freeman,
which goes a few years back now.
Marcus, he was actually a GA at Ohio State while my brother was playing there.
So as I was getting recruited, getting a chance to meet him and understand his journey,
I got a great appreciation for Coach Freeman.
Can't wait to see these guys on Friday.
We're going to get the job done.
It's the Battle of Indiana.
I believe we haven't played the Hoosiers since 1991 or 1995, something like that.
So I'm looking forward to putting it on them.
What do you think about Notre Dame being independent still?
You feel like there's a need for them to hop in a conference?
Or you all good with them scheduling everything?
No.
never and the reason why is because we're the university of notardine and you can't tell us that we can't
go play our our tribal team which is the university of southern california you can't tell us
that we can't play stanford um the benefits of notre dame is we play all across the country
each year.
And I never want that to change.
Bottom line is we can only afford to lose one game a year.
We understand that.
We know that.
And we're looking forward to our first ever college football playoff home game.
So South Bend is going to be rocking.
I actually, I'm actually opening up a Japanese ramen cuisine.
called Jena Raman Bar right across the street from Notre Dame.
So it's opening up in quarter one of next year.
So we're looking forward to being a part of the Notre Dame community
and giving back.
And it's just grateful for the opportunity to be a part of the Notre Dame fighting Irish.
I got to feel you feel pretty good about the draw, just looking through.
I felt like Notre Dame, obviously you'd love to have a vibe,
but you're not going to get one because you didn't win a conference, right?
And those roles should probably change.
I think they, and I think they will.
Just giving them to conference winners is not good because it's not the four best teams.
But yeah, you guys will never get that by, and I think that is a bit unfortunate,
because if you guys are the number one team in the country next year that you're after,
you deserve to have that buy.
But how do you feel about the draw and your side of the bracket there?
I think the buy is, I think it's necessary.
I think Notre Dame should qualify for that buy.
only if we go undefeated because we're not in the conference.
But I like our chances.
I really do.
We got to take care of home base first,
which is in Notre Dame, Indiana, South Bend, Indiana versus the Indiana Hoosiers,
who they've had an amazing season.
Great appreciation for myself being from the Hoosiers.
who's your state, great appreciation.
But Indiana, the Indiana University is about basketball.
When you talk about football in Indiana, there's one place that you talk about.
And that is the University of Notre Dame.
And we're playing in the house that Rockney built, Newk Rockney, if you don't know who I'm talking about,
it's going to be live, it's going to be electric.
I'm going to be there.
A lot of our stars and Notre Dame legends are going to be there.
And we're going to get the job done, especially it's a night game as well.
But then I believe next we will travel to Georgia.
Is that correct?
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, if you're assuming you're already going to win, and I can appreciate that.
No, no, no.
We take no opponent lightly.
Okay, just making sure.
Speaking bracket.
Speaking bracket.
We go to Georgia next.
next week or whenever that game is, is that played in a dome.
Can you answer that?
Yeah, it'll be a bowl game, but in a dome, yes.
So no weather.
In a dome?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I like that.
You know, we travel well as well.
Okay.
Yeah, for sure.
Can we go back to the Cowboys for a second?
You got three in a row.
And we got Jalen here.
You got three in a row.
Real quick.
So the light, you know, the building, it's three o'clock and that light's coming in.
Everyone's like, oh, man, they missed that pass because of light.
How bad is that light coming in through those windows?
Yeah.
The sun.
So I played in Dallas for five and a half years.
And the lighting is real.
It's real.
It's real.
The CD isn't lying.
We know he would have caught the ball.
Should have caught the ball all of these different things.
The lighting is real.
However, Jerry Jones is a extremely successful.
businessman and he has non-negotiables and that's one of them.
Yeah, speaking of,
Jerry, you know, you hear the players once they leave and say,
talk about how, oh, it's such a circus, you know,
there's people everywhere watching our pregame warm-ups.
Is that accurate?
Like, everywhere you go, there are just people watching you?
That's accurate.
I wouldn't call it a circus in a negative way.
I think it's for certain people.
A lot of people can't handle it.
I don't know if it was because I was drafted into it
and I appreciated it so much,
or if because I had a lot of experience plan at a program
and an institute like Notre Dame,
which every week there's visibility,
there's extreme visibility,
which is another reason why there's Notre Dame fans
across the globe.
Same thing for the Dallas Cowboys.
So being a part of these two rich entities,
you know, I was able to understand and appreciate the limelight.
And me being a competitor, I operate so much better under pressure.
So that's really my take on the whole Dallas Cowboy being a circus thing.
Okay, last question, last question.
So, will you give us a little bit of encouragement going into the future?
This has been a tough year for us.
And my take too, Jayland, is that, like, you know, Dallas Cowboy fans, we've complained about,
oh, we choking the playoffs, and we suck, we suck, you know.
But in reality, we haven't, this year, we're finally realizing what that means.
Like, we are not going to make the playoffs.
It's a bad season.
So can you give us a little bit of encouragement going to the future?
Like what do we need to do to go win that Super Bowl?
I believe, man, I believe that it's all about when it counts.
It's all about when it counts.
I think Cowboys, we have proven that we can have success in the regular season.
But for some reason, it hasn't been able to translate.
And I don't know if that's a personnel thing, if that's the way in which we attack the playoff games.
I'm not sure exactly what it's going to take.
I do know that Jerry really does want to win.
He really does.
He really does.
I firmly believe that he wants to win again.
But yeah, sometimes you got a plateau.
And I know losing Dan Quinn, that was tough.
That was tough.
And then, I mean, injury, availability matters tremendously.
And, you know, when you lose your starting quarterback,
it puts the odds against you.
Even though I love Cooper Rush, we were in the same draft class.
That's my brother.
But yeah, I think that the Cowboys fans deserve it.
It's been a long time.
So two questions left.
How are you feeling?
What's up?
Let's go.
Are you getting back in?
Let's get it.
Yeah, let's go.
Yeah, Jerry needs to bring me back.
Yeah.
I can come and dominate with the hot shot talent, the Mario overshone.
I love it.
my little brother. I love his game.
I would love to come rock out with him.
And we can go out the right way.
I can retire a cowboy.
I'm ready to go.
You're healthy?
Like, you're just waiting for a call from somebody to do something?
Yeah, man.
Year 9, I'm healthy.
I'm ready.
I'm staying ready, in shape, and ready to go.
God's timing.
You know, outside of it.
that. I'm a serial entrepreneur, athlete entrepreneur, having in the business field. And then I'm,
being a girl dad right now, man. I got my, I got a six-month-old, my, my first time being a father.
So, you know, there's always work to be done. Tell me about Jalen Smith, M-EI, because I was reading
about it. You talk about being an entrepreneur. I mean, this is that. What are you doing over there?
Yes, yes. So M-E-I is all about, um,
investing, it's all about helping close the economic and educational gap that exists in this world today.
So I founded MEI to help provide financial funding, mentorship, and also, you know, helping with
entrepreneurs putting together strategic execution plans.
So investing in black and brown and Latinx companies.
We've invested $1.4 million into 13 different companies over the past four years and opened up marketplaces to be able to invest in people who have tremendous ideas but lack resources.
That's something that's dear to my heart, my purpose beyond athletics to help close the economic and educational gap.
started my own life insurance agency recently to help educate and protect families as well.
So there's a lot of different things that I got going on.
Like I said, I have a huge purpose beyond athletics,
but I make sure I'm up in the mornings getting my work in to stay ready too.
That's awesome.
Jalensmith.com, if you guys want to check more about what he's talking about.
And he's already got his bags packed for that Georgia game, which is fun.
He's ready.
Indiana ain't nothing about a thing.
Nothing about a night that's happening and we're moving on.
Jaylon, we really appreciate the time rooting for you.
Obviously, Eddie being a huge Cowboys fan,
was super excited that you were on.
Thank you, Jaylin.
And to hear all the things you're doing outside of football.
That's really encouraging and inspiring.
So have a great weekend.
I hope you guys get the W and hopefully we'll talk to you soon.
Yes, man.
Thank you all.
I'm sure I'll be on again soon.
So I appreciate you guys, man.
Y'all be safe.
All right, Jayland.
See you, buddy.
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Connor McGregor says he may fight Logan Paul in India. Okay. If you're Connor McGregor or anybody
else that's a fighter, you want to fight Logan Paul anywhere. We're going to
he will make so much money and Logan Paul make a bunch of money.
I think I'm just kind of getting over the Logan Paul thing now.
And Connor McGregor's already done that I'm in a box for a bunch of money as a side show type thing.
Floyd Mayweather.
Yeah.
It was a disaster.
This one doesn't really interest me that much.
I would be interested if it were Mike Vic.
We were talking about Mike Vick earlier.
Like somebody like that versus Logan Paul, like that would interest me.
Logan Paul's not a box.
I mean, Fick's not a boxer.
People are like Logan Paul's not as good of a boxer as you think.
So I keeps fighting chumps.
The one boxer he did fight.
He lost.
I'm about Logan or Jake Paul?
Jake. This is Logan.
But you're thinking Jake.
But Logan fights too, doesn't he?
He like wrestles and stuff?
But I want to fight either one of the Pauls.
Nah.
What?
Because Jake is like really...
Why don't know about MMA though?
I thought I'm talking about boxing.
Let me see.
Connor McGregor announces in a boxing exhibition.
Yeah, but Logan Paul.
But does it matter?
Aren't that the same thing?
Like now they're one of them are really boxers
and they both make a bunch of money if you fight them?
I feel like...
Like Logan's a little.
more legit.
He, okay.
Then I don't know enough about who's legit of the Paul brothers.
Jake feels full chump to me, but Logan, I feel more legit.
Logan was the one spraying all the perfume at the match.
Jake fought the last one.
Yeah, Jake is Tyson.
I need to be educated on this thing because I'm, again, I know the difference.
And he's awesome.
And he's awesome.
And he's good.
He's good.
He's awesome.
He's a great wrestler.
Yeah, yeah.
He's like legitimate.
It's not even like looks weird like he's somebody that's trying that really isn't.
Like back in the day, like Mike Tyson tried to wrestle or any of Carl Malone.
wrestled.
And you're like, oh, they're athletes, but they're not real.
No, Logan Paul looks like a real wrestler.
Yeah, he's a big dude. He's good.
But when you want to fight Jake or Logan
and make your $10 million in the end...
Yeah, I guess.
Yeah, why wouldn't you?
But for us, like, I don't want to watch that.
I don't want to watch that either.
I'm saying Connell McGregor doesn't interest me at all.
Really? If he came back and fought UFC, that wouldn't be interested?
That I would be interested in.
Yeah, me too.
But not in the boxing exhibition.
We've already seen the boxing side show where he's like,
I'm going to be a boxer.
and then Mayweather just slaps him around and wins.
And then he, like, kicks, and he's like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm just used to kick in.
And it's too close to the Tyson- Jake Paul fight.
We're still, like, thinking about that.
I think I might have thought I was the same person than that, too.
Yeah, and I mean, that's fair.
It's boxing.
You think they're the same person until you see them side to side.
And they're like, oh, no, you're not the same.
You're very different.
I think they look exactly the same.
They stand by.
I'm like, oh, I can definitely see them.
They don't look exactly the same.
But yes, yes.
Which one's older?
I think Logan.
Yeah, Logan's older.
but a little shorter
taller no no no taller
I think he's taller
yeah Logan's tall yeah
is Jake thicker
yes
yeah Jake looks
okay he's monstrous
he's like big dude huh
more tattoos
huh
anyway I don't care
I'd want to see how the one in the fight
somebody that I'm interested in seeing
that person fight
like an athlete
like an ex athlete
from another sport
but that is like an awesome
that's like an awesome version of it
like who would be the greatest athlete right now
that's retired
or even still playing
no Tom Brady
no Tom Brady
get killed.
Yeah.
Nobody wants to see that.
That'd be cool to see.
No.
No, I wouldn't.
You wouldn't?
Shack!
That'd be crazy.
Not his cardio wouldn't be good enough.
I know.
But like Shack and Gronk are going to box.
Oh yeah.
They were talking about that.
Oh, actually.
The Paul fight.
They said they wanted to see.
I would be interested in that.
Yes.
With some big old like the pocket socket things.
Big gloves.
Huh.
That'd be cool.
I guess I know they're two different people, but I think they're the same person.
Yeah.
Yeah, it took me a minute to realize.
I was like, wait, that's not the same one.
But also I don't care about Connor Gregory.
That's my whole point of that story.
I gave no craps about Connor McGregor.
I love him.
NFL needs to chill out when it comes to flexing these games so late.
Let's say you're going to a game on Sunday.
For example, Kevin's dad came down to go a Titans game.
You guys went Patriots Titans, yeah.
And that's on Sunday.
But like a week before, they're like, we're flexing the game.
We're moving that game to a Thursday.
But Kevin's dad has plans to come down on Saturday for the Sunday game from Massachusetts.
Well, now you're screwed.
You can't go to the game because they just,
move the whole night of the game.
Yeah.
And that is becoming an issue with fans because they have tickets if they're going to come from out of state, other city, job.
I didn't realize they've done that.
So they voted last year to change Flex scheduling procedures, and they're putting to effect this season.
The tonight's matchup was supposed to, I guess last night, because it was supposed to be Browns and Bengals, but they switched to Broncos and Chargers.
Whoa.
That's crazy.
And even the Patriots game next week, I believe, got Flex from Sunday to Saturday.
So, like, there's a lot of these going on.
And most of the flexing happens after they know who's good and who's not.
You don't see a lot of flexing in the first half of the season.
They're still feeling out who sucks and who doesn't.
But now they know and they know what the implications are of these games
and where the ratings are probably going to fall.
Yeah.
But they used to do it like from Sunday afternoon to Sunday night prime time, which is fine.
Yes.
In the same day, they would just change the time of the game.
Yeah.
That's okay.
But days?
Yeah, the Thursday.
And then what about those posters that they hang at bars, man, with the whole schedule?
that all changes to you.
You actually look up those.
I do look at those.
What about them?
That's a good point.
Great point.
Did not factor in.
You got the whole schedule up there and now you're going to change it on me?
Did not factor into my thoughts.
But that's a great point.
That's so stupid.
Yeah. Let's do CFP real quick.
Who has the best chance to upset?
Indiana at Notre Dame.
Say I if you think this is the game where you think the upset is.
Notre Dame's favorite?
I think that can happen.
We're not saying it will happen.
I'll go with that one.
I think that can happen.
You think Indiana can beat Notre Dame?
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
SMU at Penn State?
Boy, Penn State, I know they lost, but they look really good against Oregon.
Clemson at Texas?
Yeah, this game.
Me too.
Me too.
Little dabble magic.
Sorry, Mike.
But the Tennessee and Ohio State, too, that one's legitimate too.
Yeah, I think that one.
I'm surprised the spreads over a touchdown.
Me too.
But I think I hate Clemson less than Texas, and I'm moving for Clemson.
Dang.
The problem is Texas is SEC
and I always root for the SEC
But Texas isn't really SEC
Not yet
Just
No
How many years
I think they'll be
Officially CEC positive
Never worry first
God I hate them
And I don't like Clemson
I don't want Clemson to win either
But
I'm going Clemson
If I have to pick one of those
Saturday game
So tomorrow Texas and Chiefs
That'd be good
Chief's 3.5 point favorites, that's it.
I guess it's because they don't know if Mahom's going to play or not,
although he's been a full participant in practice.
But I think that the Texans opened up his favorites.
What?
Texans opened his favorites and as a week's gone on.
Oh, I don't know that.
So that just means to me that Mahomes is playing.
Yeah, the Texans just haven't been as hot.
Oh, yeah, they don't look nearly as good as we thought.
Ravens in Baltimore against the Steelers, Ravens six and a half point favorite.
I'm surprised it's almost a touchdown there.
And they lost to them.
That's high.
Even though it is in Baltimore, I'm still surprised.
The Sunday games, Giants of Falcons.
The interesting thing about that is Pennock will be playing quarterback for the first time.
Lions at Bears.
Do the Lions even need 11 people on defense?
Nah.
I mean, at this point, they don't have, but they barely have 11.
No, man.
Maybe they can play 7 against 11 on the Bears and even it out a little bit.
But the Lions have lost a lot.
Yeah.
I feel bad for them.
Browns at Bengals.
Bengals, seven-half-point favorite.
Bengals can't stop anybody.
He was starting a quarterback for the Browns.
I think they got to go back to James.
You do think they are or they should?
I mean, what was that, DTR guy?
He did not look that good.
So I think I'd take my chances with James.
Titans of Colts.
Colts are in half-point favorite.
Indy.
As long as Taylor just holds on the ball.
Dude, what adult does that?
I don't know.
What adult does that?
Don't know.
What adult, let's go to ball?
What professional adults plays football?
Let's go to the ball.
It's silly.
Rams, three-point favorite of the Jets.
Rams,
Rams may make a run.
Let's go Rams.
They may make a real run.
Let's go Rams.
You know I love Stafford anyway.
They may make a real run.
Eagles, three and a half point favorites at commanders.
Eddie, she want the Eagles to win that one.
Come on.
Point five.
You want commanders just lose it all.
Lose it all.
I want commanders to lose it all because I have 500 bucks on Boenix to win the rookie of the year.
Yeah, there you go.
He pays like $6,000.
And he's not the favorite.
I think he was like plus $250 when I looked.
He was second overall.
I just need the commanders to fall off.
Who's the favorite?
Jaylon?
Jayden.
Jayden.
Cardinals, five-point favorite of the Panthers.
Vikings, three-point favorite of the Seahawks.
Vikings just keep winning.
Patriots at the Bills.
The Bills are a 14-point favorite.
They get murdered.
Bills are just on fire.
49ers at Dolphins.
Dolphins are one-point favorite in Miami.
What does it say about the 49ers?
What's to say about the dolphins?
Because 49ers have nothing.
Right, they have nothing.
Yeah.
And then the Bucks to Cowboys.
Yeah.
Bucks are a four-point favorite in Dallas.
That's game of the week.
That's a game this week.
The only game on Sunday night.
That's a game this week.
All right, we're done.
Everybody good?
Yeah.
Thank you guys.
We'll see you next week.
We have episodes next week too.
Like the big radio shows off.
We have a couple episodes that we'll do next week as well.
So thank you very much.
And we will talk to you guys Monday.
Yeah, Monday because Tuesday's Christmas Eve, Wednesday's Christmas.
So Monday.
All right, Eddie Blot.
All right, see you guys.
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