The Bobby Bones Show - 25W: Robert Saleh Gets a Raw Deal + Boise State HC Spencer Danielson + Bobby is Meeting a Broadcast Legend

Episode Date: October 10, 2024

With the announcement of Jets HC Robert Saleh getting fired earlier this week, Bobby thinks he got a raw deal and checks in with New York Casey to see if he is happy or upset. Boise State head football coach Spencer Danielson spoke with Bobby about what RB Ashton Jeanty means to the program, coach's can't-miss concert, and much more! Plus, Bobby is hosting an award show in NYC this week and says he will have an opportunity to meet Dan Patrick, but is unsure how he will introduce himself.    Download the DraftKings Sportsbook App today: https://dkng.co/bobbysports   If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/MI/NJ/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/NH), 888-789-7777/visit http://ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 1-877-770-STOP (7867) (LA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), call/text TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA).   21+ (18+ WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/LA/MI/NJ/ NY/PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. N/A in NH/OR/ON. New customers only. Valid 1 per new customer. Min. $5 deposit. Min $5 wager. $200 issued as eight (8) $25 free bets. Ends 9/19/22. See http://draftkings.com/sportsbook for details.     Follow the Show: @BobbyBonesSports   Follow the Crew: @MrBobbyBones @ProducerEddie @KickoffKevin @MikeDeestro @ReidYarberrySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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He was stopped by police. He's like, well, I have liquor in here so he just downs the whole bottle of liquor he just takes it and chugs it. So, police then check his blood alcohol level. He's blood alcohol, it was nothing.

The liquor didn't have time to... Hadn't processed. Interesting. Why did he do this? Maybe open container law. Maybe, I don't know why he did this, but he just drank all the alcohol real quick.

Like, this is like next level. So did they let him go? Nothing happened. Because they tested him in his zero. He got out of it because police weren't able to prove that his blood alcohol content was that also when he was driving, his blood alcohol content was not high because when they tested it there, it wasn't high. Now it doesn't mean when it later on it couldn't get high. But then what happens is he's like, well, if it's high, it was because I drank all that when I was just sitting. Wow.

This is next level thinking from this guy. Or very lucky. Yeah. But I think maybe next level. I mean, yeah. Because that's like the dumbest thing to do. Okay, I got pulled over. Let me drink all the beer in the car.

The first thing you do when you're like, if you have anything in the car and you're getting pulled over is how do I get rid of this? Not like I'm going to drink it. That's some Cheech and Chong stuff. Do you remember that one? I know Cheech and Chong, but I don't remember that one. There's a skit where they're like driving and they're like, oh man, the cops are behind us. And so they start eating all their drugs. And they're like, yeah, here, eat this too, man.

Eat this too. He's like, oh, man, I don't feel good, man. Here, eat that real quick. And they eat it. And it was just an ambulance. It was an ambulance, man. Super troopers. That's pretty funny.

Yeah, funny. Yeah, I started with that. So that's a fun one. I don't know where we want to go first. Let's just get it out of the way with Casey here. I guess this is good for you that Robert Sally got fired? Yeah, I mean, I was saying on money to you guys that I was kind of hoping that they would make a change soon. So, you know, I made a couple calls.

We talked to Ambassador Woody Johnson. in, I say, yeah, what are we going to do? No, but I mean, I was as shocked as everybody. Boy, that's too. When we saw it, we were in the middle of something else, like show-related and I stopped and went, Robert Sellers just got fired and Amy's like, we're raising money for Hurricane Relief. Right, right, right. Yeah, we really weren't.

We really weren't at the time. But it was something else. And I was like, we were just stunned by it. Yeah. For sure, Aaron Rogers did this, right? It's Aaron Rogers. I mean, I think he pulled some strengths here. And for sure, Aaron Rogers is a dirt bag, right, everybody?

I mean, you know, we don't know the guy personally, but it seems like it. He's got a lot of influence, let's say. I mean, Nathaniel Hackett's still being there. Definitely very telling. You saw the story about what they were going to do with Nathaniel Hackett? Yeah, that they were going to demote him. That was the theory. So Robert was going to call the play, right?

Like, that's demoting. Like, I'll do the play calls. He's a defensive coordinator, so he wouldn't have done that. But he, the other guy, he used to be the OC for the Titans was going to call plays. Yeah. Loken? Loken. Yeah.

He used to be the O.C. Here. Okay. So that's the word on the street. Is there we're going to take Nathaniel Hackett, demote him, not fire him. But that was going to happen the same day that Sally got fired. Yeah. I think Sally got a raw deal.

He got a raw deal. But I will just say, like, this season is just so important for us, you know. Just to give you guys some context, the last time that the Jets were in the playoffs, 2000, the last game that we played was against Pittsburgh, 2419, and 2011. Braun hadn't won a championship yet. Entourage was still on the air. Osama bin Laden was alive and Game of Thrones hadn't aired yet. So it's been a long time. Since we won one or we're in one? Since we were in the playoffs. So it was so a lot of things have happened. So I'm just trying to give context in that this season was very important. Sala probably shouldn't have even started the season.

I mean, that's how I probably would have done it. But I guess Woody felt like he deserved a chance to work with Rogers. But, you know, after those last two losses, I mean, you know, the team is just very undisciplined, a lot of penalties, you know, just started off flat. I really think that Denver game was really bad for him. So I'd say a couple things. Yeah. Not a Jets fan, so not an expert in this. But if he's, so his record was like 20 and 36. Yeah. 50 games. So five, four seasons, basically. Yeah. Was one of them at COVID year? Do we? Do we? We know if that was... He was, yeah, I think that was his first year with Zach Wilson.

So follow me with the COVID year, right? Nothing's really happened during a COVID year. You can't count that four or against, right? So that's one. Last year, his first shot to actually have the roster that he has chosen, a quarterback that... And Rogers gets hurt. First play. First play of the game.

Yeah. Completely destroys that season. So far, I feel like two of the four seasons have been affected by things completely out of his control. Let's go to this year. Now, again, I'm not Mr. Oh, if this was different. But if Rogers is the one that went and got him fired, which by all accounts, it feels like there was some influence there, Rogers threw the freaking interception that lost him in the game last week.

If Greg the leg makes the field goal, they're four and one. So, again, I'm not a big one-play guy, but for this situation, because I think Aaron Rogers is a dirtbag, but I still root for, I don't know why I root for him. Oh, he is great. He's great on the field. I know. I don't know why. I'm so torn because I'm like, I do it with celebrities, too.

separate the, you know. Yeah, but also I don't like him, but I still root for him. And celebrities, if I don't like him, I just don't like them. Yeah, all right. I don't know. But I feel like Sala should have been given this year. Because I think this was the real year he had to use the last few years, the roster management. But whatever.

I actually don't care, but good for you. I just feel bad for Sala. I don't like to see me lose their job. And I feel like two and three when Rogers do a pick to lose a game, Greg the leg missed a kick to lose a game. They were all, I mean, there are two plays away from four and one. And on Monday night, we're playing for first place. If we win, we're in first place.

So, yeah, I mean, definitely an odd call. But just in the context of things with how long it's been, I get that Woody wants to make a move before things get out of hand. Or before Aaron Rogers doesn't come back next year. Yeah. You can tell they hate each other. That little hug, push off. That's not what you do if you're just like focused on the game.

Yeah. And that whole thing with the cadence, too, I feel like. There was a lot of weird things happening. It probably was for the best. Who do you want? I mean, well, this is where just, you know, this is where I being a jet fan. It's just, you know, it makes me angry because I wish we fired Sala in the beginning of the season. So we could have gotten Mike Rable or someone of that, you know, caliber.

But I feel like none of those guys are going to want to come in halfway through the season. Halfway through No. Or D.C. is going to be the interim, right? So, I don't know. So Rabel next year? Yeah, I'm hoping because I don't think Belichick's coming here, you know. That'd be fun for Belichick to go to the Jets. But he's not going to do that.

He only needs a few more wins to hit the old threshold. Go get him somewhere else. Not with the Jets. Go get him somewhere else. I mean, yeah, he probably would want to, you know, get revenge on craft. But I don't even think he would want to go to the Jets to do that. If Wade Boggs can be a Yankee, Bill Belichick can be a Jets. If Johnny Damon can be a Yankee.

Oh, John. Then Bill Belaichet can be a Junt. Well, I'm happy for your loss. Thank you. Yeah. I don't know. We'll see. It's, yeah.

But are you happier or not because you're still sad, but you wanted it to happen, so I'm confused. Well, I feel like, I feel like he really didn't have control of the team. I feel like there was a lot of penalties. I feel like the team just never came out. So are you happy or not? I don't know how to react to you here. I'm happy. A change was needed.

Now, do I think that this is going to fix everything? No, but they needed to do something. So I'm happy that they did something. I saw the thing about Michael Jordan's new jet he bought. Come on. I follow this account. that just talks mostly about humongous houses that celebrities buy, but occasionally they'll put up a jet.

Michael Jackson's new $70 million private Gulf Stream 650 ER with a custom half a million dollar Air Jordan paint job. He will spend a reported $1.9 million a year to maintain the black elephant print themed jet, which includes just for it to sit, it's going to cost $2 million a year, fuel, crew, maintenance, and insurance costs. So he's paying $2 million a year.

part of the 70 million for the jet. He buys it and then it costs him 2 million a year just to keep it. Yeah. That's like LeBron spending money to keep his body in shape. A million dollars a year. Or that's like when you buy like a Lamborghini, it costs like so much money to like maintenance. Different. Different because a Lamborghini can keep at your house in your own garage.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. This you have to actually have a place because you don't have a hanger at your house. You have to pay for the hangar. You have to keep pilots on salary. And so there's a couple hundred thousand bucks each there. But like our oil changes are like $80. A Lambo's oil change is like $1,000. But that comes with driving the Lamborghini.

This is the $1.9 million just for it to sit. How big is this thing? Does it say? I don't know sizes. Yeah. Like if you would ask me, if I were to just like myself, I'd go like nine inches, but I'm telling it's not true. So I'm not great.

It's like it holds 16 people. That's pretty big. That's a big one. Because like when I went to Graceland, they have Elvis's plane. It was a jumbo jet that had a bar, a living room, a bedroom. Also from the 70s, though. Those were a bit different. Oh, yeah?

Yeah. Can you not have that now? You can, but those are like Jeff Bezos type. They don't really make that kind of jumbo jet anymore. Yeah. It was awesome, dude. Yeah, that would have been. Also, were there propellers on it?

No, no, no, it was like a 737 or whatever. That's sweet. Another thing was the Kailen DeBoer T-shirt controversy that's happening. It's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. What was it? He's the Alabama coach. He is. So they lost to Vanderbilt.

We know that. We thought it was hilarious. We rooted for Vanderbilt. We had Coach Lee on the last episode. But now they've turned it into, apparently he's not a great coach because he wears a T-shirt when he coaches. And for like four days, it's been what everybody's been talking about. They were on fine bomb talking about it.

Alabama, and here's another story. Alabama head coach, Kaelin DeBoer, was spotted, was sporting a T-shirt during the Tide's upset loss at Vanderbilt. Your thoughts on DeBore's outfit choice. It's the biggest non-story. That's so dumb. Saving wore a polo. What's the difference?

It's the biggest non-story. And then in the press conferences, they were all wearing polos to kind of a little bit like, look, we also know how to dress right. I was watching Matt Rule, the head coach in Nebraska, talk about this game a bit. he kind of dodged talking about specific teams. And he brought up Ohio State for a second,

but then he was like, never mind, I'm going to change it to Blue Mountain State because he was trying to make a point about big schools. And he goes, this is going to happen more and more and more with NIL on the portal. And he goes, and I'll tell you why. He said, imagine there's this five-star recruit. And you can even say four-star recruit.

Like, it doesn't matter. And Ohio State, that's who he used, but then he changed it from Ohio State because he didn't want to actually say at real school. He said, Blue Mountain State. He said, Blue Mountain State wants this kid. But Blue Mountain State gets whoever they want. You know, they get, of the top 20, they get 11 in the top 20 that they want.

He said, so Blue Mountain States can offer this kid $75,000, which is a significant amount of money to come play for Blue Mountain State because you're going to get paid well, and you have a good shot to go to the NFL. He said, but you have Green Mountain State, not one of the major P4 schools, but they have $250,000. And they know that's going to be their kid.

If they get him, he's for sure going to be a star there immediately. So they will offer him $250,000. That's four times the money of what he's making at Blue Mountain State. So he's going to go there to a pretty good school, get way more money and be a star. He goes, you're going to see more and more of that because some schools that know they're not getting all the big will take a whole lot of money and invest in one or two major stars. and that will allow things like this to happen, like Vanderbilt and Alabama more and more, parody even.

And I was like, yeah, that's pretty good. That rule, it seems like I'd like him. Yeah. He gets up on the podium, not in a t-shirt, but he's in a sweater, hood. He wears the little vest. The little hoodie thing. He's on a little hoodie with no sleeves.

He's like the mini Belichick. Yeah, like, but he has like a real personality about him. And he was talking about some of these coaches, you know, they bring players with them, some of the offensive defensive coordinator. And they move up, they bring players with them. And he was talking about, I didn't get to bring anybody.

can bring Christian McCaffrey with me when I came. We had to start over here. So, but I liked how he explained why teams like Vanderbilt will occasionally beat the Alabama's because they will have three or four massive stars because they're investing that money in those big players where teams like Ohio State are putting a lot of money in a lot of players and they have more money. But all it takes us one or two or three special players and some really great role players to have the occasional big upset.

Who are the stars in Vandy? Is it Pavio? I mean, he was in New Mexico State. Yeah. Not really a star. he just played awesome. But he's played awesome more games. They beat Virginia Tech.

They almost beat Missouri, except for the overtime fill goal that was missed. Like, he's been playing really great all year. So he wasn't even using that as the only example. He's saying you're going to see more and more of that because of what the culture is now. So I think it's fun. As long as it's not Arkansas, getting beat.

We used to do that before, NIL, don't worry. Toledo would come in town. Well, get beat. Western Kentucky would come in town. You were there for that one. It is terrible. Whitecraft sucks. Yeah.

Why don't we do the tittle tattle? I got a couple other things I want to talk about. And then we have the Boise State head coach too, Danielson. Coach Danielson. It makes me feel like Friday kids. Danielson. Yeah, it's like karate kid. I thought that too.

Yeah, every time I say it, I feel like. I can't unhear it now. Okay, let's do the tittle tittle tittle. Texas and Oklahoma facing off this weekend. What is your favorite non-Aransas rivalry game to watch? It's Texas and Oklahoma. Oh, yeah, man. Just for personal reasons,

wife's massive OU fan, lived in Austin for a long time, have a lot of fans there. It's regionally close. I think, depending on where you live, Michigan, Ohio State is the big one, or Texas, Oklahoma is the big one. Those are the two. It feels like, to me,

would be that top-tier rivalry. You also probably have Auburn, Alabama, but I would say that's not as biggest. If you're an Auburn fan or Alabama fan, I feel you. The problem with that game, though, is they're both in one state. So it doesn't cross state lines for that hatred. Yeah. Where Texas, massive state, Oklahoma, a different state.

So there's a regional. Oh, yeah. Bigger. Geographically, two schools, two different states. And they meet in the middle in Dallas. I hate that, though. What do you mean? That's the middle.

That's like right. I hate that. I wish they would play in each other. home where it would be just berserk. Yeah. Every year, one of them had to go into the others, and it would, and it's crazy, but the Cotton Bowl sucks. It's old.

Oh, it's very old. It's run down. I wish they would go to Norman and Austin, because a rivalry game like that, that is going into some enemy territory. Yeah. And that's what's fun. Yeah. That's why I'm glad the Arkansas Texas A&M series is done in Dallas.

It just felt generic. I like, if we go to college station, they're nuts there. But that's also fun. Same thing in Fayetteville. Like they come to us, we're going to be crazy. But I would go Texas, OU, and then I would probably go Michigan, Ohio State. But like the USC Notre Dame,

that doesn't excite me at all. Did it used to? Like the Bush, Liner, Brady Quinn days. It would be a good game, but the rivalry didn't matter to me because I don't, those schools never resonated with me from the South. And California isn't a big college football state anyway.

So it's like the whole state. It's like, we're big USC guys. that state really doesn't care about college football. How did that start, too? You have a West Coast team and an Indiana team. I was listening to Lou Holtz talking like a, and I don't know about the rivalry, but I was listening to Lou Holtz talk about,

and this is like maybe the early 90s, how USC would play a major game in the four quadrants of the country, because, not USC, Notre Dame, because Notre Dame was the biggest national team, right? They had a network deal. NBC. NBC, they were the one.

So they would go and play a top team in the Northwest, the North East, they play southeast, they'd get Notre Dame. And I think just so many big games between the two storied programs is what created that rivalry more than like somebody was hooking up with someone's sister. Yeah, that makes sense. You can also get mad at something like that, but I think it's just when two teams play and there's often something on the line for it and it happens over and over and over and over

again, that's where the rivalry tends to come from more so than anything personal. Where like Alabama, Auburn, that's personal because they're all next door to each other. Texas, Oklahoma, because the states are connected to each other. Oregon, Oregon State, I don't really feel like that's a massive one for us, because Oregon State, occasionally they're really good. And Oregon's been really good last 20 years. But that's so far and it's up in the corner so much and the time zone is so weird that it's hard for the rest of America to get involved in that one.

What's the Florida one? Is it Miami, Florida? The Florida that I think of is Georgia, Florida, which is a big one, the biggest cocktail party. They don't even have that game on their campus. Like that's a pretty big one. Wait, what do you mean? The world's largest cocktail party.

Yeah. You never heard that? Uh-uh. That's what they call it. Yeah. It's Georgia, Florida. It's Georgia, Florida. And I do not, unless they've changed it, we get a fact check on me here.

I do not believe they played that game in either home stadium. Oh, I thought they played in Atlanta. They could, but that's not one of their home stadiums. Right, right, right. So, Mikey, let me know if you find an answer to that. The world's largest cocktail party. Wasn't it Georgia or Florida who scored the touchdown against one of the others, and they all ran on the field and celebrated?

pissed them off. I think against Florida. It was Georgia. No Sean Marino days. That sounds familiar. Yeah. See that it's in Jacksonville. Okay. So in neither schools in Jacksonville. What the heck? Because Florida's in Gainesville. Yeah. And Georgia's in Athens. Athens. Huh. You never heard the world's largest cocktail party? No. You're not from this part of the country though. Yeah. Yeah. So, but that's also not one of the major, major ones. And I wouldn't expect you to know that unless you were like regionally a part of the environment. Same thing with like Oregon, Oregon State, right? What do you mean? Yeah. Like, that's a lot

bigger for me. Tennessee fan. What do you mean? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like a toddler Tennessee fan. Like he just started, he's just growing into it. Can you drink at college games now? Some. I mean, man, I'm seeing like close-ups of people and they've got tall boys in their hands. Like, that's cool. Double fisting, baby. The past five to seven years, they've really started to allow alcohol sales in stadiums. Man, we had to sneak that in back in our day. You did? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That binocular flash. We'd always have a buddy who had that dumb thing that he ordered online. Or a belt.

filled with alcohol. All right. Next question. All right. Winners of four straight and back in the top ten is Clemson quietly sneaking back into title conversation. You know, I think what's interesting about anybody that's not Texas or Ohio State

is they have a chance. I think there are two teams so far that I've seen that seem to be better than everybody else and it's Ohio State and Texas. And I hate to say that about Texas. I hate Texas. I respect Texas, but I hate Texas. I think we get one of those every episode in the show.

Especially when I have to compliment them. Yeah. But I always say the team you hate the most is the team you respect because you wouldn't hate him if you didn't care about them. It's like Tennessee. I hate Tennessee. Uh-oh. Kevin. I know.

He's going to beat me up. But why do I hate them? Because I respect them. They beat us in big games. We beat them in big games. Like the team you hate, no one will admit that. Oklahoma and Texas won't admit that about each other. The team you hate the most, you respect them.

Yeah. Because you wouldn't hate them if they didn't beat you sometimes and, like, embarrass you or, like, talk crap. So I think Texas and Ohio State. are the two teams that are a bit above everyone right now. Texas is not even their starting quarterback. And they haven't played anybody really. But also there's like, now, if Arch has to play this weekend, which I'm not sure where that is right this second, they're fine.

As far as they'd be fine either way, Euras or Arch. So, yes, Clemson's in. Because I think anybody that has a loss, possibly two in a powerful conference, and I think if you have two and you're a team, that is given credit automatically for being a winner in the past, you're going to have an advantage. So the answer is yes, they beat App State, NC State, which is not good.

They're not good, by the way. Before the season started, we thought they might be good. They were arranged. They're terrible. Stanford, fine. Florida State's terrible. So they haven't beat anybody, but all they have to do is keep winning against teams that don't even matter.

All they have to do is win. And yes, you get in the playoff, who the heck knows how this thing's going to go? So are they, the conversation. Are we talking about them now? I guess they are. They're in the conversation. I guess they are. So the answer is yes. I think what's cool is there's probably like 25 teams in the conversation right now. Yeah. They're even mentioning Arkansas as like a maybe who possibly could. Let's go. But it's teams like that that are four and two that if they play wonderfully the rest of

the way, what six more games? Don't sleep on Samu's and stay man in the conversation. No, but they're asleep. We're not even talking about them. They're out. We will refuse to talk about it. I just brought them in the conversation. Nope, I haven't said anything. I'm not conversating about Sam Houston State. Okay. Next up. All right, NFL, do you think the call to start Drake May for the Patriots, is a coach's decision or Robert Kraft? I would assume it's

Kraft's because the general interest in when they lost that game to the Dolphins. And I know, you don't want to lose, but it's better after you lose that you lost. It was the first time I've ever watched them lose and be like, okay. You don't want them to lose, but when they do, you're not hurt as badly because you know it's a net gain.

I know the loss is another closer spot, hopefully, to the top of the draft. I would assume it's crafts because the interest is waning, period, on the Patriots. After week one, when you guys win that game, they're like, oh, maybe they might be good. You're not. Seems like a long time ago.

Yeah, you're not. They're averaging, what, nine, ten points a game. That's it. It's bad. So you have to have some sort of splash. What's going to suck is the splash is going to be Drake May's guts on the ground.

You don't want that. They're playing the Texans this weekend too. Good luck. I just picked up their defense in fantasy. The Texans? You still play fantasy with defenses? Yeah, it's one league that my brother-in-law started. You guys still play with kickers?

No kickers. Yeah, it's a kicker too. Oh, my God. We just got rid of the defense in my big one I've been doing for 12 years this year. It's the best. People hate it. I'm like, how do you hate this?

No, you have to worry about like fluky flukes. Especially with kickers. Kickers is more fluky. The first time we didn't play with them, I was like, oh, we should have never play with them. Yeah. It's terrible. Yeah, I agree. So it's probably crafts.

It needs to be. Because I'm kind of interested. And I'll look to see otherwise, no way. Chicago, reset seems like a really nice guy. When you got a preface with that. He does seem like a really nice guy. Sweet guy. And also didn't really have a shot.

The offensive line wasn't good to start. It got worse. As attrition set in, they were losing linemen. but also not really known for his arm so it wasn't like defenses really had to do much like just stack the box stop everybody hurt everybody yeah

and they're I mean the receivers are just not good yeah you don't have anything you don't have anybody you can just throw it up to and just you know what I mean he'll win that 50-50 ball you don't have anything all right one more last one as touchdown underdogs on the road in Baltimore this weekend is this the game

where Jaden Daniels finally looks like a rookie I learned my lesson last year because every week I was like Texans This is not going to go well. Stroud. You guys have been on a run. Strout, time's over.

I could just record myself. I could have played it every week. And been wrong. And been wrong. So, I don't know. I really, it's, I would have said every week up until this, the answer is yes. I can't say that anymore because, man, he looks really good. The only thing that scares me about him is he's so thin.

It's like you break him in half. It's like, first time I watched Kevin Durant playing the NBA. I'm like, there's no way. But he also was thin of Texas He was awesome Left after freshman year You know, all la la. Lost Syracuse in the finals, right?

In the championship game, Final Four? Did Carmelo? No, he was after Carmelo, wasn't he? I don't know. Maybe you looked that up. Maybe they didn't lose Syracuse. Maybe I'm just thinking of a whole wrong era. I think the Ravens probably win,

but Jaden Daniels was awesome. He's got 1100 passing yards, four touchdowns, only two interceptions. That's the crazier part to me is the only the two interceptions. Yeah. It's not like four passing touchdowns is a ton, but only two interceptions.

he's also rushed for 300 yards and four touchdowns. The rushing, I was watching, what's interesting, he has break-ish away speed. I'm not going to go full break-away speed, but he has break-ish-away speed. Where if you give him a step and a half, you're not going to catch him. I was watching Seattle,

and that was not a good game for Seattle. That was not a good game, right? But I was watching, because they ended up losing that game, right? Yes. I was watching Gino Smith run on one of his. He doesn't have breakaway speed. He has not even breakish away. He has, if he's got a few steps, he'll get a bunch of yards.

But I was watching Jackson, Smith, and Jigba, and they kept showing it back. Well, you know how sometimes somebody catching a punt will act like he's catching it. The ball's not even near them. To keep the defenders from going to the ball. Yep. Jackson Smith and Jigba was acting like the ball was in the air, and two defenders were on him still chasing him. And over his shoulder on the right side, which Geno Smith running was rushing down for 30 yards.

He kept their cornerback from even looking. It was awesome. It was awesome. Really. What do you see? They lost in the second round. to USC. Okay, I'm stupid.

They lost that second round Kevin Durant. I just have like revisionist history of like he was awesome. They were the 4C lost to the 5 C. Did Texas lose to Syracuse

in the finals though of a championship? We beat Kansas with Mello if that's what you're talking about. I have no idea I'm not talking about. Who's the final four? This one?

No, when Mello was played because Mello did not win the championship, did he? Yes, he did. Oh, three. I don't even know what I'm drunk. Syracuse? Well, you keep seeing we.

We? We, see you Chris. Syracuse. He went to school there. Amamod. Yeah, my bad. Who was in the final four? Texas was in the final four that year.

I guess I just assumed... Texas lost to Syracuse. Oh, so Texas did play Syracuse. I just assumed Kevin Durant was on that team. Yeah, that was before Durant. Gotcha. I'm not totally stupid, guys. Only half, because I felt like something was clicking in there.

Yeah. Just didn't know. Okay. Is that it? Yeah, that's it'll tell. Thank you. All right, let's build a parlay. There is no Arkansas game, so I don't have to say we're not doing the Arkansas game this week.

Okay. They're resting. Yeah, I feel like Tennessee has. something to prove. They're minus 15. Against Florida in Knoxville. I'm taking Tennessee minus 15. Smart. The tricky thing is that Red River rivalry.

Texas is a two touchdown favorite. They're a two touchdown favorite, but that is a rivalry game. But Texas, I think, is a lot better than Oklahoma. Oklahoma's offense, they don't exist. They have a really good defense, but their offense is struggled. I'm going to go to Alabama. minus 21. They're back.

In Tuscaloosa against South Carolina. I'm going with two teams that were embarrassed that are in my mind going to come out and be angry. I bet not on anger.

Emotion. I like that. Yeah, anger and emotion. Do you take Texas too? No, I can't touch that game. I can't. What was the first one you took? Tennessee minus 15

against Florida. Alabama minus 21 against South Carolina. And I'm going to take Penn State Money Line at USC. Traveling across the country for that. Yeah, the favorite,

and I could go with the USC emotional angle, but I'm not going to. Even though I used it for the last two, I'm going to not use it here for no reason other than I just yeah, that would be my three there. Not bad. You're looking at plus 584 right now? So if you bet $10,000, $10?

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with Boise State head coach Spencer Danielson. You got it. You have to know. Coach Danielson is in his first season his head coach has moved up. Like he started as like grad assistant all the way up to head coach. Pretty amazing. And he's also in his 30s.

He's 36 maybe? 35. 5. 35. Oh my goodness. I'm trying to add a year. Dang. So they're 4 and 1.

Ashton Genty, the favorite for the Heisman right now. He's the running back. He's a beast. The only loss for Boise was a game-winning field goal by Oregon. That game I remember watching, Boise led most of the game. Yeah.

I bet Oregon to cover. and I remember being angry at Boise the whole time. And it was over, the covering, because Oregon was a favorite. I don't remember, like 21 points. Yeah. I remember. So, yeah, we're super happy to have Spencer Danielson, Danielson. And Ellen.

You got to watch, if you haven't seen Boise play, they're awesome again. Thanks to Coach Spencer Danielson for joining us. Here he is. Coach, how's it going? I'm doing good. How are you guys doing this fine Monday morning? Hey, what is your Monday like? Is it different after a win versus, we'll just say when it's not a win?

I think probably in my heart. it is. I can tell you that. Yeah, you're already on to the next week or are you doing new stuff right now? We're out of the next week with our staff. So we don't practice on Sundays. I want to give our players an opportunity to go to church and get some time. So we will evaluate our game we played on Sunday or on Saturday today and then move on to our opponent. We practice Monday night. So for the coaches, they're moved on to Hawaii. And I'm kind of still finishing up some things that I want to make sure the messaging from the game we just played and then living the switch and moving on to the next game.

I was watching some of the Utah State game, and it got out of the hand pretty quick. But you pulled Ashton, I don't know, after the half. Possibly, I don't remember exactly when you pulled him. But I mean, video game numbers, right? Is it that versus getting him making sure he's healthy? Like, where does that kind of fall into your mind? Yeah, to be honest, don't really look at the numbers.

You know, he's such a vital part to our team. And not only just what he does on that field in regards to the impact that he has at the nation sees now. I mean, guys, he's he's unanimously our team leader. I mean, he's a unanimous captain. He's the first one in the building, last to leave. And so there's so many things for me just from protecting him because it's not just, oh, he's such a good running back. I got to protect him in regards to who he is because, you know, that's our team. He's a leader of our team. When your best player is your hardest worker, you always have a shot. So at that point going to halftime, you know, the game was in a good place, not by, by any of the team.

far from home. But it's also we're a developmental team. Like we got to get other guys in there. We've got to get them game reps so we can evaluate them because it's easy for people to say what they want to do when they get in the game and what they tell their parents they're going to do when they get in the game. And now we have filmed to be able to evaluate those guys.

We were able to play 25 players on offense on Saturday. Huge deal for the development of our entire team for the future. Able to play a bunch of freshmen, sophomores. So it's huge. When the program's firing on most are all cylinders and you got a guy, that is one or two, depending on who you talk to in the Heism race,

are just media inquiries and even media at games? Is it a whole different level? Yeah, it is. I mean, especially at Boise State, Bronco Nation, our fan base is second to none. And so for me, with our team, I mean, our games are going to be sold out. Energy is going to be through the roof. And then obviously the more successful you are, the more media and interviews and essentially outside noise comes in.

And something I was talking to our team about last week, is it's earned. I mean, our guys are doing some really good things, but we've also only played five games. And so even all the rankings and the Heisman and the projections of college football playoff, Mountain West Champion, all these things like, guys, we played five games.

And I brought one of our players up into the front of the team room last week, and I started just hitting him on, oh, man, you guys are top 25, and I started hitting his shoulder. Oh, you guys have got a Heisman runner, kept hitting his shoulder. And guys were kind of looking at it. at me like, what is coach doing? And I'm like, every time you continue to get these paths on the back, it's little by little hitting this chip off your shoulder. And by the end of the year,

are you going to have butter and you're just going to be this soft team because you just keep listening to these outside noise. So it's a fine line for me because it is, I'm a positive energy, you know, glass half full guy. Like if there's a mountain to climb, let's go attack it. But it's also like as a reality, we've played five games. And just like anything after a game, it's what do we learn and where we grow into? We're a new team every single week. And You see that in college football from teams that are projected to win by 20 and lose or however things go. Each week's a new week. And it's the biggest game because it's our next one.

But especially in this community, which loves their football team, there's been success here for decades. It's keeping our guys focused on the main thing, which is learning and growing because it's easy to get caught up and all the paths on the back. And then little by little, that chip on your shoulder, that blue collar mentality, which is wired into being here, can little by little by little. to look at whittled away. Will you show them anything from like Vanderbilt beating Alabama or Arkansas beating Tennessee and just be like, guys, this can happen if you're not ready? Oh yeah. I mean, I'll show things from this year. I'll show, I mean, even on my Friday meeting last week, I showed them

three or four different clips of even years past at Boise State. Well, we're ranked. You know, everybody's feeling good. Everybody's talking about how great Boise State is. And then you go in and walk into a buzzsaw and lose. and so I always I mean I'm a firm believer that men learn through two ways either pain or wisdom and I tell guys let's learn from the pain of others or the pain of the past and let's use wisdom to grow here in the future and no different this week we go to play Hawaii and whenever you play on that island like they're going to do a great job it's a game that we're going to have to work our tails off to earn the right to win and each week's a new week if our Hawaii I would soften every team up like I would provide them with the most luxurious experience

Like, pit, roast. Yeah, I'm talking. And then just get them so unfocused that they be showing up to the game. You don't even know you're on a, you don't even know you're in a business trip. You think you're there hanging out for a spring break. Then all of a sudden it's kickoff. You're like, what in the world? What are we doing here?

Is that a different conversation you got to talk with the guys about? Like, it's a business trip, even though it's going to be beautiful and it's going to be fun. Like, we got to focus. Oh, 100%. I mean, I'm going to talk to those guys about it here later today. And I'm going to keep hitting it. It's like, okay, yes, there's a team we're going to play that's very talented. Timmy Chains done a good job, but it's also

we got to battle the environment. You got to battle the five and a half hour road trip, the humidity, the distractions, the beach, the girls, the whatever's going to be waiting for us on that island. That's also a part of the opponent that we've got to go compete with. What is your man cave like at home or your office? You know, because you probably have a lot of screens

and you can easily just say it's an office. Like what is your place like at home, coach? I'll be honest, guys. I don't have a man cave. I got two little girls, a three and a half year old and a two and a half year old. So the spare room we have is filled with dress-up, Elsa from Frozen. There's a little kitchen in there with a bunch of fake food.

So when I come home, man, I joke with people that the beautiful thing about being a girl dad is, you know how much those two little girls care about football? Not one bit. You know, when I come home, literally last night I came home and my wife bought this T-Rex dress-up costume that my three-year-old was ready to scare me when I walked in the door. So it's so cool to be able to blend those things, especially as a coach you have to. I mean, my girls come to practice a ton. I want our coach to bring their families around.

So at home, I don't really got the bad cave-ed-ed-o. My wife, I'll put whatever games on in the living room and I'll be watching the girls. And then the other side of my eye, I'll be watching some football. But it's my wife's a rock star. I mean, we met in college at Azusa Pacific, which I'm sure you guys have never heard of. It's okay. It's the Harvard of the West. And, you know, it's been an awesome.

awesome just experience for us through the year. This is year number eight for us at Boise. So this has really become home. Like it's a great place to live and thrive and everything I do is to impact these kids. And I'm open about my faith. I talk to our players about love and Jesus a lot. And some people don't like that. I'm like, this is me. It's my foundation. And so just so humbled and blessed to be here and be a part of it. How do you find time to be a good husband during season? I travel a lot if I'm either doing stand up or whatever project. I'm on the road a lot. But my wife and I really have dedicated like Tuesday evenings, even for like four hours. We specifically have that time.

Now, for you, it could possibly be different during the season than not. But how do you make sure you can still dedicate some time to your wife and family during a football season? Yeah, so much of it is just, and I'm working on it every single day. I'm not going to sit here and say that I got to figure it out by any means. We're going on year 10 of marriage. And first off, it's a testament to my wife. She's a rock star. But, I mean, Coach Pete's a huge mentor of mine.

and something I've took him from him is just blending your home life with what you do with football. And then you just got to be intentional. So like even in a game week situation, like Sundays, I try to make sure I get home. Sundays make sure I get dinner with the family and put our girls asleep. Like that's a non-negotiable. Tuesdays after practice, me and my wife, outside of Boise, we got to right outside of our facility. There's a river. Me and my wife on Tuesdays after practice will go on a 30-minute.

walk and just talk about life, how the girls are doing, how she's doing. We're expecting another baby in March, so kind of going through how she's feeling. And then on Thursday night is date night for us. And then depending if it's home or away, kind of going through those things. And then so much of it is trying to get our, you know, my girls and my wife in the facility around, around our players. Because not just for the connection with me and my family, but I think, one, for our kids to see us working.

because even as a young kids, they just, you're either home or you're at work, right? Sometimes they can't even calculate why is my dad not here? I want them to see what their dad's doing. And I want them to see there's quality and hard work. Like hard work means a lot. Like there's no substitute for it. And I also want our players, a lot of our players come from home situations where they didn't have a dad. I mean, they're raised by their mom, their auntie, their grandma, maybe a coach.

So I want them, not that we're perfect examples, we're working our tail off to always improve, but I want them to see what a husband and a father looks like. We've got players in our team that are dads. I want them to see what this looks like. Not perfect. It's not about perfection, but seeing us in that space for our players to be around. Those things are huge. So try to be very intentional with the time we have, especially in season,

and make sure that it's on my schedule. This is my time with my wife or this is the time that I'm doing this and try to stick to as much we can. We have a lot of parents that will listen to the show and ask questions about their kids playing sports. Would you prefer a kid play a bunch of sports or really dedicate themselves to one? I would love someone to play as many sports as they can. I'm such a firm believer in just playing as many sports as you can from the youngest age you can play them.

And I just think being able to build the overall athlete is such a big deal. And I see all the way through high school. I want to recruit guys that run track, play basketball, baseball, because it just shows the different skill set that they're into, and especially even more college football is becoming even so much more specific in their recruiting where guys are getting offers as freshman high school. We don't do a lot of that because we're a developmental program. I got to see how you're developing from 14 to 15 to 16 years old to see what that fit is.

And I want to see someone running track, playing basketball, because I think you're building an overall athletic skill set, not maybe just so specific to what you're doing on the high school football field. Yeah, coach, he's talking about parents, you know, so at the middle school level, high school level, you're dealing with a lot of parents getting involved with their kids. And the coaches have to deal with that. What about the college level? Do you have to deal with parents of players and tell them like, oh, I got this?

I'd say a little bit more of the door. I mean, so for me, I mean, just, and once again, guys want to say this stuff, but I know it means that I got to figure out it's just my heart and it's who God made me. when I say we're a developmental program, you need to make sure everybody's involved in developing these kids. So with our players, I zoom with our parents once a month. So once a month,

there's a Zoom set where every parent will get on a Zoom, we'll talk about our team, where we're at. Every week, my assistant will send out a weekly newsletter. Kind of like, hey, these are some highlights from the week. These are some guys that are doing some really good things, blah, blah, blah. And then I'm involved with our parents.

And I don't talk much about playing time, but I tell me, if you are concerned and you're frustrated, I want you to call me and not sit on those things because I want to be able to be real and open with them. I believe in truth. And so if a parent is frustrated that their team should be or their son should be playing more, I want them to call me because I'd rather tell you this is why your son is not. These are the things that he's struggling in because they're only getting one side of the story. They're getting the story that, you know, I'm not playing because of these things. I want to give them the truth of this is where we need your son.

undergrown. So I want to keep the lines of communication open, and especially in this new landscape of college football with the transfer portal is I want our parents to know exactly what we're doing and how we're developing their sons. And I believe that we're going to develop their sons better than any other school. Maybe other schools can offer them other things, but there's not going to be a place that they're going to develop more. And I think being on the same page with these parents and just being intentional to be up front with them. And that's why I zoom with them once a month so they can know my messaging. This is what when we talk about practice performance, like this is what I mean. So if your son is performing in practice, you're going to see him play more

in the game. If your son is not playing in the game, you know that that's probably because he's not performing the way we need him to in practice. So I'm intentional to be truthful with our parents to know the landscape so then they can filter through some of the information they're maybe getting from their sons. Final three questions. If there's a concert, coming to Boise and who is it that you will not miss? Ooh, good question. I'm probably more on the country side of things. I don't listen to a ton of music. I listen to a lot of worship music. I like elevation. Maverick City are two of my favorite worship band. But I'd say like country artists, I'm a huge

Luke Holmes guy. He came to the blue a couple years ago, didn't miss it. Who else would I say? I like Morgan Wallen. If there's a country concert coming to Boise Idol, and we're not doing football, I'm going to find it with either. I finally got some cowboy boots this off season, so you better believe that I'll be rock at those two. All right, final two questions. Do you talk with your guys about the college football playoff? We talked about it to start the season because I know they're hearing it from everybody. And like we talked about even to start season, I mean, Boise State, we've been picked to win our conference 17 straight. years. And that has not happened, right? So expectation doesn't always meet reality. And so I talked to

our guys about the expectations, the expectations of us being able to go play in this college football playoff. So we talked about to start the season. I said, guys, you come to Boise State to play in these games. I mean, we're one of the winningest teams of the country since 2000. So since our players have been alive, you know, one of the winningest football teams of the country. So we talked about it. I said, hey, guys, this is, when you come to Boise State, this is a goal of ours to go win our conference championship and earn the right to go play in a college football playoff. Since that time, I haven't talked about it because I'm such a big believer in process. And each week's a new week. And that's where, you know, we've played five games. There's a lot of talks about, oh, this is what's

going to happen. I mean, we saw this past weekend how quickly a team can stumble week to week. And so talked about to start the season right now, it's all about one and no mindset. And for me, it's after each game, what do we learn, where are we growing to? And the next game is our biggest game because the next one. And I believe in that process, and I want our players to focus on that. No different guys, and not to beat a dead horse, but I'm such a,

the only reason I coach is because Jesus put me in this seat to develop people. And I believe that it's easy to get caught up on these mountaintop experiences that you're looking for, oh, college football playoff, play in the NFL. But life is a journey. And I want our guys to love that journey. So this is Hawaii Week.

There's nothing more important to Boise State football than us playing Hawaii. No different in life. No different. Whatever your feeder are, like star in that role, be excited for that. And then once we finish this game,

we're going to be excited for what's next. So we talked about to start the season, but don't talk about a lot more after that. It's all about the process we're doing week to week. Final question. Do you ever just want to give yourself the game ball in front of everybody? Give it to me, boys. Look at me.

This is what I got going on. I mean, I'll be honest. No. I mean, I just, I'm one of those guys that's probably overly emotional. Like every time I talk to our team, I got to fight crying because I just love these kids. I mean, I see the work they put in, the grind they do. I mean, when it's January, Ashton Gentis doing up downs in the snow,

and then you see them do what they do. That's why, I mean, after these games, I'm emotional because, you know, I just am so respectful of our players not running from hard work, not taking the easy road, doing, you know, really enjoying hard stuff. And I think that's uncommon in college football right now. And I'm not saying that makes us better, perfect by any means. But I do think, you know, Boise State is built on this blue-collar mentality. And our players do that every day.

That doesn't mean that we're going to win every game. It means that we're going to give ourselves a good shot. So I can say after the games that I haven't had that fight in my heart to give us some game. I've been giving a couple. And I'm like, man, give this to the guy that just scored five touchdown. I didn't do anything. I'm a glorified cheerleader. Coach, we really appreciate the time. We're rooting for you. And good luck next week.

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The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at Tickford.

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you don't want to miss this episode. Listen to the Sports Slice podcast on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, for wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slica Life 12 and TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. An update from last episode, we teased something that was going to happen last weekend. It happened, but it didn't happen to where I can talk about it yet, but next week I'll be able to talk about it. Oh.

It did happen. Man, I'm getting DMs of people like, well, what do you tell you? I'm like, I can't tell you. I know. It did happen because I have seen a picture of it from the wild. Yes. Yes. Reed, you don't know what it is because you weren't here.

Yeah. You do know what it is. Yeah. Oh, yeah, because you help me. Yeah. That's right. Oh. I'm not going to say anything.

No. So we will be able to update you next week. I'm very sorry. I hate to do that thing where we're like keep. But it was supposed to happen. It did happen, but something didn't happen that actually allows me to communicate what had happened. And trust is there's a good reason why he's not telling you.

Yeah. And when we tell you why you'll go, oh, that's why they couldn't say. Correct. Yes. But we will be able to say after next week. And it's awesome. Oh, wait, it's super cool. Yeah, super cool.

It's awesome. So that's all I should say, right? Yeah, leave it there, man. Okay. So tonight, and I have never met him, I guess on computer, but that doesn't count. But tonight I will be meeting Dan Patrick. Oh, wow. Which is super exciting for me.

Are you guys doing dinner? We are not doing dinner. Thank you for making it seem even lesser now because I'm not doing what you said. Okay, fine. You're going to the club? It's like, wow, can you believe how much that car? 20, that one, no, it was like 13,000, but thanks for making me. It's like, you know, you just diminish me.

But when you say I'm going to meet someone like, you're just going to meet them on a street corner. Generally, it would be dinner, right? And then you go, well, you're having dinner with them? No, it could be anywhere. I thought you were going to say yes. Sorry. Oh, my God. He downgraded you.

He did big time. I feel diminished and my story's not nearest school. What are you guys going to be doing? I am hosting an industry awards thing in New York called the Marcones. Oh, dude, there's dinner there. You're having dinner with Dan Patrick. I am not because I'm hosting it and I'll be on the stage. And so he will be there.

He's up for an award. And I assume I'm going to get to meet him. I don't know that he's going to win the award. I don't know who wins the awards. But probably I'll get to meet him, right? I would think so. Yeah, you're both there. I got a couple jokes about them.

Oh, on stage? Nice. It was like a roast or funny? Not really that roasty. I don't really know some of these people. You really can only roast people you know. Correct. That'd be weird if you didn't know how many roasted them?

Like, who's this guy? We saw that with the Brady roast. Like, went up and threatened the guy. Yeah, yeah, true. So, yeah, Dan Patrick will be there. I'm pretty excited about that. Do you know what you're going to talk to him about if you do meet him? Because, like, I always do that.

There's nothing that I could prepare in my head to say that would be cool. What about the opening line? You got to practice that. Hey, Patty. To him? No. Patty? I think if I talk to him after the show, I don't know.

I think it's like, hey, can I get a picture? Oh, that, just like that? Maybe. I don't even like asking for pictures, but there's like 10 to 15 people that I just am like, I'm just going to eat it and ask. Maybe he'll think I'm cool, though, too, if I'm hosting the awards and like I've been out up front and center in front of him. Or maybe he thinks, like, that barrier is off. He's like, oh, I've been watching you up there. I don't know.

But I'm going to meet him, I think. Yeah, he seems like he'd be cool with that. Yeah. What about like, man, Bama going down. It's crazy, huh? I don't want to go up and talk sports immediately. It's like going up to a guy who's an accountant. How about that dollar?

The dollar to yen transition. That's tough. You're right. That's his job. I don't know what we're going to say. I think it'll probably be this. Hey, Dan, really nice to meet you. Cool.

Okay. Yeah. Okay. So whatever that situation is. Yeah. See what happens after that? Maybe dinner. I did get invited.

to a dinner tonight afterward with some of the people, but it's a 10 p.m. dinner at the polo club, which is very, like, fancy. But it's a 10 p.m. dinner, and there's no chance. I don't care who it is. What do you mean? I'm not going to a 10 p.m. dinner with anybody. I don't care if it was Mark Gray, Sting. That's not true. No, you don't mean that. I have to work in the morning, and I'll have been up all morning. My wife's going with me.

She's not going to the event. And so I'm also just not going to leave her behind. I just don't want to go to a 10 o'clock anything. Mark, Gray, Sting, David Letterman, Howard Stern, John Mayer. You guys have a good dinner. There's no way. 10 o'clock, that's unrealistic for me. And again, I have to work in the morning. That's East Coast, right? So that's 11.

No, it's 9. Do you know how time's on the work, buddy? Yeah, it's backwards. Eddie just keeps downplaying everything. I know everything is worse. All right. Anything about Deshawn Watson? You guys want to say him?

What? Hey, I saw a stat, actually. That was interesting. Hold on, I wrote it down to my notes. Does that to do with football? To me, the weird thing about Deshawn Watson, I was watching somebody talk about how they would trade them next year, and they'll, I should credit whomever it was,

I wish I knew who it was, on TikTok, and he was saying, I think the move's going to be for the Browns because if they were to cut them, they have like $100-something million dollars in dead cap, which you can't do. You can't live on that. But if you trade them, next year it's like $80 million. So you go to a team who has a lot of a rebuild and a lot of cap space.

And not only do you trade him, him, you send him your first round pick. So you're giving them him just to take it off your hands. But for them, for taking that, it's like a weird trade. It's like they're going to take it, but they're also going to get something. They're also going to get the first round pick, like a Carolina Panthers or somebody. And then in exchange, you get a conditional seventh round pick, which is like nothing. just so the trade can happen. Just to get him out.

Just to get him out. So the stat was he has settled more lawsuits than thrown touchdown passes since signing with the Browns. God dang. 23 to 19. Wow. That's crazy. What do we think the problem is? Do we think it's age?

Do we think it's mental? Mental in that he got in so much trouble that he can't actually focus on the game. Do we think he made so much money? He doesn't care. I think it's two and three. I think he's just checked out. out. It's too much going on outside of football.

It's killed his confidence, man. You didn't even know who he is as a person. How's he going to play football? He was so good. Confidence. Do you think him? Do you think anyone likes him in the locker room? Probably not.

No one likes in the locker room. No one likes in the street. It's just everyone hates you. So it's self-esteem more than his confidence. Yeah. Because I think confidence would be able to throw, able to complete pass, able to be quarterback.

I think he still has confidence he can play because he's acting like he can play. Yeah. But self-esteem, which then could affect everything else. There we go. Like if you're hated everywhere you go, you eventually start to... That's tough.

No, you know what's tough? Having to be a woman and him pull out as ding-dong and be like, hey, look at my erect penis. Thank you, bones. You're welcome. I just want to make sure and say that because we do talk about trivial stuff. You look that in the eye when you were saying. Why are you looking at me, dude? I don't know anything.

College football playoff odds real quick at plus 280. The favorite is Ohio State. Oh, I thought it was the longhorns. By a significant margin, it's Ohio State. Wow. At plus 400, is Texas at two. Georgia is at 3 plus 500. Alabama's still at 4. The money would be right now to put it on Alabama.

If you were going to bet Alabama, it's do it right now while the tide's low. And I got money. Oh, I like that. I know. I didn't mean to do that. The tide is low, boys. Because they're still really good, and they have a really good coach. And they just learned a hard lesson.

They got humbled. They learned a hard lesson. Oregon at 5. At six, Ole Miss, Tennessee, Penn State. So I guess it would be six, seven, and eight, but they're all the same. And then nine and ten is Clemson and Miami. I'm surprised Miami's not higher, but probably because they're basing it on who they'll play in the CFP, more than what the record is going to be leading up to it.

And they keep having to come back. But they haven't lost. Chiefs did win again, too, which is crazy. This is awesome. Chiefs, they have nobody on their team. I think they played seven-man football against the 11 and still won. They're undefeated. That's the thing.

They're undefeated. Without running back, without receivers. Shout out Juju Smith's shoes, sir. Shout out Kareem Hunt. Right? It's like 19-yard. It's like 2017 all over again. It's pretty awesome.

Pretty wild. We'll wrap on this. We'll run through some games real quick. Weekend preview as far as college football goes. Will you look at something up, Eddie? I'm just looking at the odds for the futures. Hey, you know, I don't feel the best about it, but I do like the bet I made for rookie of the year

because I don't think, I think Jane Daniels, if Healthy wins it. But whenever I went and bet Bo Nicks, was I bet him because his odds were so high. I feel like Bo Nix, let's say Jay Daniels, good start. He has such confidence. And at times he looks like he might be good in the future.

I think Bo Nix could be in that conversation if a couple things fall. The Broncos are winning games. Yeah, he's not bad. Oh, he's terrible sometimes. Like, awful. But his you don't talk about confidence. He's got way too much, but that's what you want. Like, he just comes out and freaking fires.

And when him and Sean Peyton. We're going out on the sideline. Thank you. Yeah, that was awesome. Hilarious. Yeah. And then what does Sean Payton say?

Well, Sean Payton's a goober. Here's why. He made like an old reference. What he said? Ferris Bueller. It was way too dated. He was like he's got too much Ferris Bueller in him. Ferris Bueller came out in 1980.

And I'm like, dude, unless somebody's like, I've never even seen Ferris Bueller. Oh, you never seen it? It's good. You should watch it. No, I was like, unless somebody's like 50, they're not really going to feel that reference. And then they asked Bo Necks. They're like, what did you say? He goes, oh, he just said, I love you.

I said, I loved you back. And, like, that's the perfect answer. Funny. That's the perfect answer. You know what Ferris Bueller is, Bo. The fact that he thought Ferris Bueller was like the contemporary pop culture, Andrew to make the comparison. I think he said he's got some Ferris Bueller in him.

NCAA football weekend preview. Here we go. South Carolina at Alabama. Alabama, I would assume, roles. South Carolina is surprisingly at times competitive. Yeah, but Alabama's been. doing a lot of up downs and it's that kind of bad week and think about that and the coaches will probably be in collared shirts correct uh clumson should be wake forest i mean we talked about clumson

earlier they're ranked 10 kind of quietly mostly because they've been ranked high and then sucked so now that they start climbing back up nobody cares because you're kind of like oh you're just going to suck again right Texas Oklahoma that'll be fun Texas is a 14 and a half point favorite right as of right the second uh Penn state at USC should be interesting because Penn State is having a fly all the way across the country. But at least they get extra hours. Right, Eddie? Is that how the time?

Yes, that is how hard. They do, they do. Mississippi State of Georgia, Georgia should roll because Mississippi State is terrible. They are probably the worst team in the SEC. Yeah. Man, it was Vandy for a long time. Good for Vandy. That's awesome.

Like, they're the worst, right? Yeah. I mean. The other teams that you'd put, Auburn is pretty bad. Not as bad. But not as bad. Florida at Tennessee. Tennessee should roll.

Florida's pretty bad, too. Yeah. It's thought of them last minute. Ohio State at Oregon will be an interesting one. Yeah, that's going to be a great game. I think that'll be fun. At Oregon. Yeah.

That'd have been cool either way because those two teams don't really do that. Yeah. Like I can't ever, and they probably have, I don't remember. I can't remember Ohio State ever playing in Oregon. Two years ago they played at Ohio State. Right. Yeah. Yeah.

But not at, yeah, Oregon. I can't have picture. than playing at Oregon. But also, like, Kevin Durant, play Carmelo Anthony. A couple years off. And we got there, but it turns out,

I remember Texas and Syracuse playing. Yeah. That was it. Right, teams. Boise State, Hawaii? You got there? Well, we had coached Danielson on, so we're going.

We're going Boise. Next week, though, is the Boise UnelV game, the Battle of Our Buddies. Oh, that's hard, man. The Battle of Our Buddies. Like, both of your kids are playing each other.

Like, who do you? I know. Battle of the buddies next week. Okay, NFL. We got the Lions. That's a good game. 49ers to Seahawks are tonight. Yep.

I mean, the 49ers is the favorite. Yeah. Do they have a kicker? Which is weird. They don't have anything. They don't have running back. I don't think, I think McCaffrey retired and got his number retired in the circle of life already up there. Is he ever coming back?

He's eating sourcrow all day. I mean, I guess a 49. That game, I'm not going to touch. They both had brutal losses. Yeah. Yeah. On Sunday, Jags at Bears. I don't know.

I think I like the Jaguars won another game there. All right. Cardinals at Packers. Probably at Packers win, huh? You would think. They're in Green Bay, too. Oh, yeah. Oh, the game of who gives a crap.

Colts of Titans. Although, Justice for Flacco. Justice for Flacco, Joe Flacko. 73 years old, still going. Is that here? Yes. Tickets may be cheaper that one. Texans at Patriots.

Texans should roll probably second best team in the AFC, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Vikings, Texans, Ravens. Now, Chiefs.

Vikings are the FC. Chiefs. Texans. Ravens. Yeah, right? Yeah, those are the... Universally, one, two, three?

Yeah, I think so. Bucks at Saints. No idea. Didn't they just play? Well, same division. They play nine times every week. But it does feel like they play all the time. It does, but it was the Hurricanes and the bucks.

Yes, because all those teams feel like the same team. like the same. Yeah, it feels like they're all the same team. That made sense. Especially when they all sucked, too, because it was all like 500 or below teams playing each other. Browns at Eagles,

the Eagles should roll. Commanders at Ravens. That's a fun one just to see what happens. It's just fun to watch Jayton Daniels and see how far he goes. The Chargers at Broncos. I mean, you don't know. You guys can pick that one.

Chargers? I like the Broncos, man, I think. I'll go Broncos. They're a little right in right now. I go Broncos. Stealers Raiders. Steelers Raiders. Oh my God

Oh gosh that's terrible I say Steelers Probably the Steelers Because the Raiders And also who's the quarterback I don't think he's quarterback anymore right No no it's O'Connell O'Connell Yeah

Aidan Hutchinson from the line Is it gonna go play quarterback Yeah Yeah that's weird huh Like The point of your starting quarterback That's a big decision because you really

Almost can't go back Yeah Unless you're pulling them Because you're just way down you don't want him to get hurt or way up. If you pull him, and he's already kind of a fringer anyway, it's hard next week to be like, hey, the guy that's our fringe quarterback anyway,

and we're going to look for a new quarterback in the draft, we're going to put them back in. Yeah, price dealers. Lions, Cowboys. Cowboys. That's in Dallas. Lyons three and a half point favorite. Lion's going to smoke them.

That's rude. Okay. Falcons and Panthers. Falcons. Falcons should do some damage there. Oh, shit. Yeah. And then Bengals at Giants.

on Sunday night. The Giants have been looking better than, well, the Jets. Yeah. Bengals have to win that game. If they lose that for two reasons. One of the Giants and two, they can't afford to lose any more games. Nope.

All right, there you go. And that's it, Mike. Is it? I got to go to the flight of New York, and we will see you guys next week. Have fun tonight, man. What's up, Danny Boy? Now, don't worry. Danielson.

Hey, Dan. You want to go over to a polo club? attend Dan Patrick? Oh my God. That sounds so fancy. Who goes to the polo club? Well, it's the literal brand, though. Oh, it's not like polo grounds?

I thought they were going to be playing a game like while you had dinner. No, no, no, no. It's a restaurant. And that is a fancy restaurant because my CEO took me there one time. So it is, but it's literal like Ralph Laurenne prolo restaurant. I'm almost positive. You have to wear one of their shirts or something there? Great question.

I'm wearing an Alabama t-shirt. So I don't wear a fancy. You know, there are some restaurants where, like, you don't have a coat. They provide you with a coat. On TV, I've seen that. Well, that's where I saw it, too. Okay, yeah, I don't know. I've never been in one, but on TV, I've seen that.

Seinfeld. That's a real thing. Yeah. On TV, it's a real thing, but I don't know about real life. There are some places where you have to wear, like, a jacket or collar. And then you're like, I don't have one. Oh, we'll provide you with one, sir. House of Carps says that here.

Dawson went with me one time, and he wasn't wearing anything. And they were like, we only have these really large ones. And it's just like a trench coat. It was great. You and Dawson went for Magic Night? Yeah, man. It's fun, man. Just you two?

I think so. You think so, you know. Yeah, it was just us, okay? James! All right. We'll see you guys next week. Hold on. Let me blow the whistle.

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