The Bobby Bones Show - 25W: Someone's Priorities are Questioned + Adam Schefter Weighs in on Contract Talks in Dallas

Episode Date: August 23, 2024

After committing himself to working out with Bobby and Eddie the last few months, they are now starting to question Reid's priorities because he has skipped out on multiple workouts recently. Plus, ESPN Insider Adam Schefter sits down with the guys in NYC to discuss contract news from Dallas, how many phones he has, and the latest injury news, and more!     Download the DraftKings Sportsbook App today: https://dkng.co/bobbysports   If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/MI/NJ/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/NH), 888-789-7777/visit http://ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 1-877-770-STOP (7867) (LA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), call/text TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA).   21+ (18+ WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/LA/MI/NJ/ NY/PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. N/A in NH/OR/ON. New customers only. Valid 1 per new customer. Min. $5 deposit. Min $5 wager. $200 issued as eight (8) $25 free bets. Ends 9/19/22. See http://draftkings.com/sportsbook for details.       Follow the Show: @BobbyBonesSports   Follow the Crew: @MrBobbyBones @ProducerEddie @KickoffKevin @MikeDeestro @ReidYarberry  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We're good. No. No, I remember seeing the list, too, of people we didn't even know. This is hilarious? Guys, you're playing flag football because you couldn't play real football. Correct. Like if you could play at a high level like the NFL, you would be doing that. Getting paid.

But it is a little different, right? Like you don't have to be 250 pounds. No, but I think the players, though, that are fast, skill players will be the ones that should play flag football. If they want to have trial, it's okay. But I'll read you the story from the athletic flag football 2020 in Olympics. Daryl Hush Ducetis, a current U.S. flag football quarterback says it's disrespectful to automatically assume NFL players will automatically just join the U.S. Olympics because that's who they are.

He says they didn't help grow the game to get to the Olympics and suggest people, quote, give the guys who help get this game to where it is at their respect. As far as the NFLers, he says NFL or he says they're going to have to go out there and compete, whatever. So here's the thing about flag football. Well, I don't know what level it is. I never heard of any professional flag football league. They must not have done a good job of getting into a level because I don't know who these people are. but any flag football level that has gotten anywhere

is because the NFL is so popular. Yeah. And then flag football is secondary. Yeah. So this guy's hilarious. I like that he's speaking out. I like that. Yeah, good for him.

But bro, look, we want, we want the NFL players to play. Well, it would be like the college players back before the dream team. The Georgetown head basketball coach for a long time. Yeah. No. Old. And then his son coach, too. Yes.

So he was the head coached like the 80. Yes, John Thompson. Thank you. He was like the 80, that coached the 88 Olympic college team, right? And they didn't win. And so 92 went in as a dream team and they won. But it would be like those college kids going like, no, we got us here. Jordan, bird.

Come on. Magic. You guys have to earn this. Yeah. No, bro. We want my homes as quarterback. There's a reason that they're, so I thought this guy was. More like Lamar.

I mean, imagine Tyreek. Yeah. Tyrieg, just run. Dominate. Just run. That's all you need to do, just run. That's quarterback even, Tyreek. Yeah.

Just take the ball and run. Yeah. Yes, it's going to be a whole different game. Because if those guys, any of those flaggers could play in the NFL, they would be playing in the NFL. Yeah. They're not making a statement by playing in flag to make flag a better game. They're only playing a flag because they enjoy football in which they could have made it at a higher level. You don't respect them.

Is there? No. MVP odds for 2024 from Drive Kings. Patrick Mahomes at 4. 475 plus 475 at number one. That's a good bet. MVP's tough. Last year, out a buddy that said for sure,

bet a thousand bucks on Dak Prescott to be the MVP. Did I say that? He was the leader. He was a leader. I bet a thousand bucks, and then he did not win MVP. Nah. He's pretty terrible. Very terrible.

Who else you think is in the top five, Eddie? Lamar. Lamar is not in the top five. Interesting. He's at number nine plus 1,800. Kelsey? It's going to be tough. No, just because it's going to be tough for a wide receiver to an MVP because it's such a quarterback award.

I bet you there's nobody on this list if I go top 15. At number 18 is Christian McCaffrey and plus 4,000. That's the number one. Okay, so Burroughs on there. Yeah, Burroughs in number four. I wonder Patrick, Patrick, is it, is Rogers on there? Aaron Rogers. Aaron, Roger.

Yeah, okay. And we got Josh Allen. Okay, here we go. Patrick Mahomes and one. Josh Allen at two. Joe Burrow at four. What are you missing at three? At three, we are missing.

Oh, wow. They have Dak Prescott at three. Oh, my gosh. No, they don't. That's not at three? He's at eight. Okay. Can I take a guess?

Yeah. Justin Herbert? No. Herbert is at number 15. Okay. It's going to be tough for Herbert in an offense that they run the ball a lot more. That's what's going to happen,

mostly with the hardball being the head coach there. CJ Stroud, rookie of year last year. He's number three, a plus eight. 50. So you got Mahomes, Alan Stroud, Burrow, Jordan Love at 5. Boy, they're... I know they're paying him. They're hyping him up. They're hyping them up a lot. Well, he had a great second half of the year.

Second half of the years. It was amazing. But I... Yeah, that's hot. Him and Jalen Hertz. I don't think he deserves to be where Jalen Hertz is. No, he does not. But the public sets the betting market. I guess it's set by the makers, but then the public then kind of resets it. You think it'll have Mar so low?

because back-to-back is just tough. Probably. That kind of hurts them, right? Angelina Jolide, which meant back in the day, which she was like hottest woman every year. They wouldn't give it to her anymore. Same reason Bill Belichick wouldn't get coach of the year. Yeah. And they'd be like, we're not giving it to Belichick again.

LeBron MVP. It's why don't get every CMA. That's exactly why. That's what it is. Yeah. So it's like, they also have a rule where you can't get it, but every other year. Yeah, yeah, they do that.

That's a real thing. Yeah, that is the real thing. Yes. So, DAC at 8, Lamar, 9, Brock Purdy at 10. This is Brock's month. money here too, Brock Pretty. Like, this is the year he's going to have to make his money. Yep. And he's not looking good so far. Dude, he played with the second and third string. I don't watch any preseason. I went back when Eddie was talking about how bad Brock Party looked.

I went back to see why he did not play with any starters. He played with all junk players. People that aren't even going to make the 53 man roster. Those throws weren't even catchable, dude. So to finish it out, Jared golf at 11, 2 at 12. Anthony Richardson at 13. Trevor Lawrence at 14 in the tie for 15 is Stafford and Herbert. Like, low key, that Stafford. at 15 plus 3,000. You like that one? Sure. For the odds.

He's been there before. For the odds. Where's Will Levis, man? Disrespect. I don't know. Let's go over and talk with ESPN Insider, Adam Schaefter, from our time in New York. Adam's one of the best, one of the most famous. He had multiple phones.

It was a whole thing. Adam Schaefter. You can follow him on Twitter to keep up. Here he is. Adam Schaefter. Here with Adam Schaefter, who is. the nicest guy in the whole world because we watched them talk to every single person for like 10 minutes. Yes.

Maintain eye contact and like, see, you're like the nicest dude ever. You missed 30 minutes of it on the way here. No, we didn't. We watched. We were like, that's the kindest guy. So thank you for the time. My pleasure to be here. Okay, I'm going to start with, and let's just get right to it.

J.J. McCarthy's hurt. He's out for a year. Did they think initially when that happened that it was going to be so severe the meniscus hair? You know, I'll say this to you. It was on Monday night, you hear that he's not. not practicing, that he's got some discomfort in the knee. And I thought, that's not a good sign. And then on Tuesday morning, it was very odd.

I started getting a flood of messages from a flood of different people on Instagram. And believe me, that's not how I usually get my information. But all of a sudden, all these people are sending me these messages that J.J. McCarthy was out for the year. And I'm like, out for the year. And I started making calls. Now, their information was partially correct because they said he had a torn MC. out for the year. There were multiple messages I got. When I started making calls, I could tell something was wrong. And it turned out that he had meniscus injury. And the doctor's surgery was

going to determine whether it was going to be a trim, which would have been weeks or repair, which would have been months. But I will say going in, my suspicion was it was going to be a repair because I had so many messages. And I think that they had some hope that they would be able to trim it, but once they went in there, they figured that the best course of action for a young player like that with a great future is to repair it. And that's what they did. And he's out for the year. Once you put him on IR, he's done for the season. He shut down. So that's it. Adam, when you get the info, what's the process before you go public with it? You're like, oh, got the info. Do you go immediately or we got to start? Well, you got to make sure that everything's

accurate. You have to confirm it all and make sure that it's right. I'm not going to just put out information when these fans are indiscriminately bombing me with this information that JJ's out for the year because ultimately that turned out to be the case, but there were steps to get through before you could actually say he's out for the year. Again, first it's he's got the knee discomfort. Then he's having the MRI on Monday night. Then they're going to have knee surgery for Wednesday morning. Then they have to figure out what they have to do. Then they see he's out for the year. So there's a lot of steps. It's not just as simple as a black and white situation. With the Dallas Cowboys, they've got three contracts.

All three of those contracts will be massive contracts. Will they be able to afford anybody else? Will they play three-man football? You know, you could do that. I would say this, that if the DAC deal gets done, and we'll see whether it does or it doesn't, that's going to be the one that cuts into their ability to spend on other players because that deal is going to be so massive.

But would that be before the CD-LAM or the Micah deal, though? I'd be surprised. I know Dak struck a tone on four. Friday where he was saying talks were going well. He's in a great spot. Dax's in a great spot, period, whether he does the deal in Dallas now, before the season, during the season, after the season, or with another team. Like, Dak is going to be, when that deal gets done, whether it's Dallas or anybody else, he's going to become the highest paid player in NFL history.

So he's in a great spot. But they're going to have to do some origami to figure out how to pay all those guys, right? They knew the C.D. Lamb deal is coming. And you're talking about arguing over a million or $2. Like that deal is getting done and they knew what it was going to be. They know the DAC deal is coming if they can get it done. The Micah Parsons deal, Jerry's been talking about for over a year now. So it's not like these deals are blindsiding them.

It's just going to restrict their message right now. I love it. We got breaking news. It's just going to restrict their ability. Breaking news. He's ignoring us. Pick up a pot roast. Oh, never mind.

It's from home. And trash bag. It's all good. Yes. Hey, out of the phones, I've always been interested in the phones. You have how many phones on you at all times? Two? I have two phones right now.

This phone, and my daughter's actually manning the other phone right there. She's taking pictures to post Instagram stories. That one's not for the hit. That one, so one, I mean, how do you give someone? Which number do you give them first? Is it the personal business? This is my primary phone. My secondary phone, I'm not even sure of the number.

to be honest with you. And like, you know what? Like the J.G. McCarthy, when he was having the knee surgery, I had everything. It was on this phone. And I went to go file it. I was in the airport in Boston on Wednesday. And nothing was going through.

And I'm pressing send for 10 minutes. And it's just a line. Like it won't post. I'm like, go post, post. And it wasn't posting. So I had to retype everything on my other phone and then send it on the other phone. Classic. That's why I have a second phone.

because, you know, this one is, I don't even know the providers. One of them is Verizon, one of them is ATT, and you have different phone carriers, different issues like that, and that's how you do it. Anyone with the tip, you can text them now. 2-1. No, we don't know your number. So, wouldn't that be fun to give out his number, like an 800 hotline number? Let's talk about Joe Burrow for a second.

Not a typical quarterback injury, the last one. He's been hurt every year. Do they consider him injury-prone or very unlucky? And let's say he gets hurt again. Then do they go, well, what's up? Do they go and look for another quarterback young to draft a young? No, I don't think so. First of all, I think Jake Browning is a pretty good quarterback, his backup,

and they committed so much money to Joe Borough. He's your guy, and you're not moving off Joe Burrow. Even if he gets hurt again, unless it was some catastrophic injury that would hinder his ability to come back and be the quarterback long time. Like, he's the guy, and you're going to ride him until he can't play anymore. Well, if the horse doesn't have any legs. Well, he's got legs. He's got legs.

No hand, no arms. He's got arms. He's got all those things. They're working. You could say that for any player. But not Joe. I love Joe Burrow. And you can say that for some, but Joe's hurt.

It's like freak stuff consistently. Even at training camp last year when he pulls up and the debate is, what did he do? Did he lose his leg? Did he sprain his ankle? And then the injury that took him out at the end of the, like those aren't typical get hit on a play or pull a hamstring injuries. So Joe Burrow, they still have the same faith that he can stay healthy and be the guy? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, and again, you have to build around him anyway.

It's like the Jets with Aaron Rogers. I mean, you may be your only option. You may be worried that he's 40 years old. What are you going to do? Like, that's your guy. You committed the money. You committed the resources. You committed the time.

He's your guy. But again, I think you could say that for every quarterback in the NFL. We come up with it. What happens if this guy gets hurt? What happens if that guy can't play this year? Burrough's been here every five minutes. I got it. But, you know, Aaron Rogers last year is coming up as torn Achilles.

He's 40. Dak Prescott and came up a fractured ankle that time. Like, we could say that for a lot of people. Mahomes has had ankle injuries and cap and dislocated kneecaps. Like, it's a violent sport. Guys are going to get hurt. That I agree with. But it's just Burrow.

Just got hurt again, I heard. Nope. I'm not mine. I just thought I was so used to hearing it. All right, final three questions, Adam. Go ahead. Yeah. Adam, so you were talking about Aaron Rogers.

How much fun is it to cover Aaron Rogers? how weird he is. From other weird people. We mean weird. We're all weird. Interesting. I don't view it like that. I view it like last year he goes out there.

Everybody in New York is all excited to see what he's going to do. Jet fans, you know, actually thought that there's a chance for the first time in 50 some odd years that this team is going to get back to the Super Bowl and they didn't. I think, honestly, people wanted to see him play and want to see what he could do for that team, that organization, this. city and they want to see him be out there. I want to see him play. Like, I don't forget about covering him. You know, there's a lot of quarterbacks to cover. He's an interesting guy. He's got some interesting things to say. But you want to see him out there ultimately. We're interested in him because he's a great quarterback. And we didn't get to see him play quarterback last year. That's the problem. We want to see him play. He could say whatever he wants.

We could debate the merits of it. It's all about his play. He's one of the great old-time quarterbacks. That's what you want to see. Final two questions. What's a fair ceiling for Caleb Williams and the Bears? Fairly high. Like, I don't know that they're going to win a lot this year. I don't want to get ahead of it. But number one, I think C.J. Stroud kind of raised the bar for rookie quarterbacks. But this guy is incredibly gifted. Now, let's see how fast he can respond. Last year with C.J. Stroud was an abnormality. Rookie quarterbacks do not usually do that.

type of thing. But Caleb Williams has got a ton of talent and we'll see how it's harvested in his first year. If Caleb Williams did not exist, would Jaden be like the dude we talked about? Like, can't he? We still might be talking about him even with Caleb Williams because there's been enough chatter about Jaden Daniels and what he can and can't do and there's enough hope and promise for him that I mean, I'm not going to be shocked if we come out of this being like, wow, Jaden Daniels is incredible. Bonus question. Speaking of Jay and Daniels, we've got to go to the Giants. Malik Neighbors, they played LSU together. Yeah. Like they were awesome

together. He's a dude. Because that's, the reports. Like even with Daniel Jones, let's say he's just okay. Hey, let me say something. I remember being at the Combine. The Combine. I'm sitting at dinner with the general manager and he goes, let me tell a couple of things right now. I don't care what other people

say, Malik Neighbors is the number one wide receiver in this draft, the head of Marvin Harrison Jr. And when I heard him say, I'm like, really? And then I heard it again and again and again. And there were people that obviously stood behind Marvin Harrison Jr. And Marvin Harrison Jr. is going to have a great NFL career. This is not a knock against Marvin Harrison Jr. in any way, shape, or form. Love the guy. I'm just saying there were people out there who felt like neighbors was the top receiver. There were people out there who thought Harrison was the top receiver. But it was not a unanimous

situation. And that tells you that both guys are in line to have great NFL. those seasons and careers. We really appreciate it. Big fans. Thank you very much, guys. My pleasure. Are you hungry for college football? Well, we finally get a taste this weekend. Don't miss any of the action.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. So Reed, I think Eddie and I need to talk to you about something. Oh, gosh. Okay. Uh-oh. Well, I think Reed's priorities are a little out of whack. So Reed has dedicated his life to working out with us and getting in shape. Oh, here we go. Here we go.

I just don't understand it. Well, so, and Reed, when he started, like goofy baby deer. Yeah, like a giraffe out of the womb. Whoa, wobbly. And everybody starts when you start back. a little goofy again. We definitely have a specific way we work out. And it wouldn't matter if my wife takes me to do some sort of Pilates class,

I'm goofy because I don't really know what I'm doing in there. And those movements are all weird. So Reed starts to work out with us, and he just hasn't exercised at all in years, which is fine. So it's not even changing workouts. He's just getting back to it. And Reed, at times, can be somewhat athletic. He's got a good jump shot.

And he can throw a baseball. Yeah. And a golf swing. Oh, yeah. Good point. Other times. He's that baby deer. Yes.

So he starts working out, and we love Reed dearly. And so we're working. And Reed's starting to slowly get stronger. We can see it in him. He, like, shows up earlier. He's fired up. He doesn't cry as much. He used to come in every day and be like,

undercooked salmon. I had undercooked salmon. I don't feel good. No, no. He called his stomach his tummy. My time. And I had to have the off-to-the-side conversation of, if you have something that's going to keep you from working out,

don't work out. But if you're going to work out, you can't complain about what's happening to as you work out. My tummy hurts. Right. But if you literally can't work out. Undercooked salmon. That's not even more people with Reed about.

Because he's past that. Because Reed is, it's like watching our guy. He's like in puberty. He's like a 14 year old now. He's strong, man. From the wound, we were with him. And so all of a sudden he's like, I can't work out today. Like, cool.

There are many reasons that all of us can't work out. He's like, I won't be able to work out all this week. Fair enough. This week. You having surgery? Like, what's up? Well, my fiance and her mom were coming to town. And we're like, okay.

Why? Because they'll kill me. Whoa. That was his answer. Talking about his fiance, he says, she'll kill me. So first, I'd like to ask why you can't work out with this at a normal time of 3 o'clock, which is you're not in the way of dinner or lunch. Did we work out for 10 hours, bones?

One hour. Yeah. And only twice the whole week while this week, we used to go three times, only twice this week because I'm not able to go one of the days. But go ahead, Reed. So yesterday, we had a dinner date planned and then we went to go see a movie. That's great. What time was dinner? Dinner, we got there at 5.30.

Okay. Perfect. Cool. What time's the workout? Three. Yeah. And he's like, she'll kill me. But the thing is, Reed, why are you trying to get in shape?

I'm trying to look good for my wedding now. Exactly. Exactly, which is what he always tells us. And I don't even think she was, I'm going to be honest, I don't even think it's her thing. No way. I think it's a him thing. And he's like, getting out of it, you can just say, I'm a wuss. Dang.

Guys. You're being called out, dude. You can just say this, undercooked salmon, and we'll know the code word. Hey, tonight, I actually can't, though, because of our engagement photos. Okay, that makes sense. Yeah. Now, see, we would have accepted that one. What time of your photos?

the photos are at 430 I get it Fair enough It's hard to get unswheres It's sweaty as Reed is God dang He's the sweatiest

He's the sweatiest human I've ever seen in my life So Bones has to tell Reed Every time like Reed gets up From the bench like Dude Wipe your sweat please Because it's a pool of sweat

Dude Yeah it doesn't matter If we're 10 minutes in or 50 When Reed gets up It looks like you've taken A washcloth And wrung it out Over wherever he is

Yeah And at first I'm just like Hey man Just remember to Because I have towels For everybody in there A stack stacks of towels So since I have the towels, hey, be sure to wipe your sweat

when you get off the bench press or off the floor. Yeah, that big old sweat stain. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he doesn't. He just gets up and leaves it all there. But again, we're like Reed's new. So let's take it. Yeah, hey, read, don't forget.

Reed, you forgot to get, read. And it used to be like this was water. Like he would just come and drink all my water. Like he would just show up, be like, I guess all the waters are free. And it's, sure, you can have a water too. Forgot a water? Have a water. but like he would show up and think

no this is where I go to get my waters I brought my jug I started bringing my jug You learned the energy And if you ever forget a water Have as many waters as you need and want Thank you But his assumption was I just go to Bobby's

Get my waters Gotcha And then wherever he sweats Everybody else is just supposed to lay in it Or clean it up themselves So we've been working with him on this Did you yell at him the day? What happened? No, Klug did though

Oh he did? Oh Kloog was like Read, clean your sweat up It's like my kids. They always say, like, Dad, why are you yelling at me? Oh, you want to know why I'm yelling at you? Because you didn't hear me the first 20 times

I asked him to do this. And I don't even know that Reed knows he sweats so much. Or now he does, because we've... Did you know your touch of sweater? Oh, I knew it. Yeah, 100%. Okay, but then why would you not? I just...

I was trying to get through the workout and it just did not cross my mind. I'm just like on to the next thing. Now you do, though. And you know what? As a person, you're not a selfish person. You're actually a really good person. Thank you.

But sometimes, Yep. You blame your fiancé. Yeah. He loves to say she'll kill me. Yeah. We haven't seen each other in a month and a half. Okay, but are you getting ready for your wedding?

And it's one hour. That's fair. And it's mental health. But I drop 30 minutes there and then we work out for an hour, 30 minutes back, and then I got a shower. You can still do it. You just don't want to do it. I mean, yeah. Yeah, it was a good excuse, too, for sure.

Do you ever get your own in? Like, run around your neighborhood? Anything like that? Like, sometimes I can't make a workout. And I'm like, you know what, I'll go for even like a two-mile run. That's great. That's it. Since we started working out, no, I haven't.

Wait, but that's, isn't that also since you started working out again? Yeah, for sure. So the answer's always been there? Yeah, yeah. That's a funny way to phrase it. Since we started, no, no, no, no. What about before? Oh, also no.

No, no. So our, while we were laughing when you weren't around is because you're like, I have to get in shape for my wedding, but then the person comes that you're getting married to, and then you use her as an excuse to not work out. it just felt a little hypocritical. So then we determined it wasn't her fault at all. It was just yours. That's right.

That's right. So you admit it? I admit it. Yeah. I'm a wuss. And everything's going pretty... Well, that was easy. Everything's going pretty good with you guys other than that?

Yeah, no, it's going to great. Her mom's staying at your house? Yep, she is. With Dawson, too? We cleaned up the house. Yeah, dude, he's... So me and Maddie are going to Jeff Rubies tonight, and he's going to take... Her mom?

Out. Yeah. What? What? Yeah. Some Zach Wilson stuff right there. Where are they going? So what are they?

Actually, he said he's going to ask her and we talked to her mom and so I'm not sure what they'll do. They're going to hang out. Yeah. Just hang out, though. They're not like going on a date. No, not going on a date. They just hang out. Is her mom married still?

Yeah. Okay, got it. Yeah. Is her mom younger? Yeah. She's the late 40s. Okay, Dawson. But no, she's still married.

Oh, right. I forgot about the part of her. She's still married. Okay. Yeah. What are we going to do here? What do we learn from this? I'm going to not take any excuses

And Well excuses and Reasons are different Yeah for sure If you have reasons There are reasons you can't do a lot of things Like reality Real life happens sometimes

Are reasons you can't do a lot of things in life That's true Excuses are different And excuses for example are Unexcusable Cuck salmon Oh My tummy hurts

Yeah, that's true Yeah Or she'll kill me Yeah When in reality you're only doing it for her anyway. There's the big three. Yeah, for sure.

Okay, okay. So that's what we learned here. There are differences in reasons and excuses. Reasons you can have, excuses, we're eliminating. 100%. I'm also learning that there's no validity to, She's going to kill me. Because he kind of uses that as always just an excuse.

Yeah. I mean, she would be, you know, upset. Like, if she's upset, that's a bad thing because then it's like, okay. A little codependency here? Yeah. Do you know what codependency is? No. Okay.

All right. He's honest. Okay, thank you. Now we're going to get over and talk with ESPN's NFL senior writer and fantasy football expert, Mike Clay. Mike is on such shows, the sports center. Fantasy Football now, NFL live and a whole bunch more. He has great fantasy inside. He has great stuff online at Mike Clay NFL to keep up.

Here he is. Mike Clay. Hey, Mike, how's it going? Hey, I'm doing well. How are you? Hey, good. Appreciate the time. Mike has a bunch of content available on ESPN Plus.

It's Mike Clay's ultimate draft board, sleeper watch. the 192 and touchdown projections. I'm an ESPN plus subscriber. I pay the money. I get the message and email every single time that someone has logged in my Disney account, which is what it says every time I log into my ESPN Plus. So thanks for coming on. A lot of fantasy questions.

For us, it's draft time. So your demand has never been any heavier with us. You have two running backs in your top three. Now, back in the day, we used to draft running backs like crazy. They're like limited. But then it's become so wide receiver frenzied with the top guys. with I think Bijan and Brees are in your top maybe three out of three. Is your top three McCaffrey, Brees, and Bijon?

Is that right? Yeah, it sure is. And look, it's positional scarcity at this point. There are just so many good wide receivers. The depth quarterback and tight end is so good right now that I just look at the running back spot and I say if I'm picking early in the first round, I can get one of the big three, the three you just laid out, CMC, Bajon and Brees, Hall, and just feel so good about that position. I'm just said. I have one of the very few, I mean, CMC's on his own level.

I know he's 28 now and not fully healthy at this particular moment, but he's on his own level. And then the other two two are so young. They're up-and-coming guys that could, they're the two best candidates to outscore CMC this year. So if I get one of those guys right out of the gate, it feel great about that. I feel like what's old as new is old as new again, because this used to be what we would do seven, eight, nine years ago, where it was there were only a certain amount of RB ones and let's grab them all because, eventually we're going to be fighting for scrum and there are plenty of wide receivers, but now it's that wide receivers, there are so many good ones.

Not even that there are just so many, there are so many good ones. Cidieland, with his holdout, do you feel like that will affect him week one, week two of the season if they do sign him? Like, will he be ready to go or will there be a warm-up process? He might come out a little slow, but here's the thing. It doesn't matter. And we saw evidence of that last season. The first six weeks of the season, he was not doing very good from a fan of

perspective. Then Dallas had their week seven by. When they came back, the light went on for Dag Prescott and C.D. Lamb from that point forward, C.D. Lamb had 314 fantasy points. If that was just his total for the entire season, he would have finished wide receiver three. That's how dominant he was from that point forward. It was unbelievable. 28 and a half fantasy points per game. For like perspective, Tyree kill during that span, average about a little over 20 points per game. He just crushed it. So we've already seen C. Lamb got off to a slow start and crush it for fantasy. Even if that happens this year, it doesn't affect me at all. He's fourth overall on my board. You can't predict injuries, and especially when you look at the top players on any board,

but especially yours, they all have a bit of injury associated with them, right, which makes it extremely difficult. I mean, McCaffrey, until his year with 49ers, he was hurt every year, but I probably wouldn't have come back to the Panthers either. I'd have been like, my elbow hurts, you know? So, uh, Brees Hall, heard his rookie year, like came out. Bejohn was hurt last year, Cid Lam, Tyree. is small had some time. Amon Rae St. Brown had a rib injury. Like, let's go to Amon Rae St. Brown. Apparently, that injury was way worse than we knew about, and he still had a heck of a year last year. You feel pretty good about him this year? Yeah, I love him. He was outstanding last season.

He's submerged as a guy that has a high floor and a high ceiling. The high floor comes from just massive volume in the short to intermediate range. So, you know, they're going to get the ball in his hands as often as they possibly can. And the ceiling, we've seen it. You know, he pushed there. He had double-digit touchdowns last season. If he can do that, you're the whole package in fantasy. So, you know, things have gone kind of perfectly for Detroit the last two seasons. They really haven't had many injuries. Everybody's, for the most part, everyone's been out there, you know, relative to other teams, they've been very healthy. The O-Lines held up, Jared Dodds held up. So, you know, that gives me the slightest pause, like what happens if something like that,

you know, they start to drop like other teams do. But at the end of the day, like you said, to your point, you can apply that to every team in the NFL, you know, every team is going to have some level of injury concerns over the long term. So St. Brown is my wide receiver three. I expect another massive season from him. Did Justin Jefferson fall on your top 10 because of the quarterback situation? Yeah, I mean, relative to Kirk Cousins area, yes. If Kirk Cousins was back, I think he'd be giving CDLAM a run for his money for that top

overall spot at wide receiver. But there's more question. You know, there's question marks there. With Sam Darnold, you know, there's a hope. There's a range of outcome for him that they can get him going. And if you think, but there's no way that's possible, well, I give you Baker-Maintfield last year. I give you Gino Smith two years ago with the right coaching and the raw talent. Sometimes these quarterbacks can develop later in their career and have a good season.

So there is hope that Sam Darnel will be okay. I would feel better, though, if J.J. McCarthy was healthy just because the ceiling's higher. You know, you draft a guy in the first try and you expect him to be a superstar. And McCarthy did look the part in the off season. So that gives me a little pause from where we've had Jefferson in the past, but he's still wide receiver five of my poor. he's going to get a huge target share, and he is maybe the best talent at receiver in the NFL. So he's still a fine first round pick.

You have two Eagles in your top 12. Sequin first year running back. Are they going to push anymore? Is Saquine going to get – who's going to get those carries? Yeah, they'll still do the brotherly shove for sure. I don't know if it'll be quite as dominant as it was with Jason Kelsey up front. But remember, Jalen Hertz is the guy that can squat – what is it, a bazillion pounds?

I don't know. I don't even, I can't count that high. So he'll be awesome. He'll still do that. He'll still get in the end zone. But here's the thing. The last few years, Eagles running backs have scored enough rushing touchdowns. You know, I believe Miles Sanders, I think it was eight, two years ago as their leadback. And this is another step up. This is Seekwon Barkley we're talking about now. You don't pay him to bring him in to just be a situational guy and not be involved near the goal line. The guy is going to be good. I think he'll score right around 10 touchdowns, much better offensive line in Philadelphia. relative to what he was dealing with in New York.

And look, Howie Roseman is not a guy that pays non-premium positions. We've seen linebackers walk away. We've seen them not pay running backs. But this year, the salary cap went up, and he just watched his eagles get beat up by Christian McCaffrey in the 49ers the last couple of years and thought, you know, this is a copycat league. We had a premium A-plus running back on the market. This is the time to pounce on one of these guys.

He's doing that. Let's say, Juan Barclay, expect him to be a featured player and have a huge season. Who's going to go from Didn't really matter last year to Holy crap, they matter a lot this year And just to give you a second To think about that Like a guy like Garrett Wilson makes sense to me

Because he just didn't have anybody Throw a ball to him and he's elite So you can still pick him I just want to give you a second to think about that answer Who will go from Man, if they just had somebody to get him the ball They'd be so elite to this year they have that person Yeah, I think there's two guys that jump right off the page

I'll agree with you on Garrett Wilson Because he was my guy last year Okay, I took it in the late first round of our marathon mock draft on TV. I snipe Dan Graziano. He was not happy. I was happy. And then it took a few snaps on Monday Night Football and that was

that dream was dead. So I'm back in on Gary Wilson. Look, the guy's fourth among receiver and targets since he entered the NFL. All the other guys up there in the top 10 in targets are averaging like 16, 17, 18 fantasy points per game, eight and a half touchdowns per season. He has seven total touchdowns. Average in about 12 and a half fantasy points per game because they have the league, the league's worst quarterback play.

That should be fixed this season. So it's him and the other guy, obviously, is Drake London. First round or two years ago, same kind of thing. Big target share since he's coming to the league. He's the real deal, but the quarterback play has been bad. It's been a low-volume offense down there in Atlanta. Now he is Zach Robinson in as the play caller. Arthur Smith is out and headed to Pittsburgh.

And of course, you have Kirk Cousins at quarterback, which is a massive, massive upgrade. So I expect both of those guys that big seasons. Both of them I have in my top 15. Speaking of Atlanta, Bejohn, obviously we mentioned him. as being one of your top three. I think he was number three on your board. But what do you expect Bejohn to do now that he's not in that Arthur Smith's offense?

What is he going to do now that he wasn't able to do last year? Yeah, all systems go. I mean, last year, I think it would surprise people because to your point, like, it felt overwhelming. It felt disappointing. And still, he was sixth among running backs in yards last year. I believe his fifth in snaps. He was second in targets.

So he still had a very good season for a first year player in the NFL, especially in, again, that low-volume system. Now the carries can come. I think that's going to be the big difference from last year to this year. The carries will add up. You might see about 100 more carries. That's big. And perhaps more importantly, goal line work.

He had two carries inside the opponent's five-yard line last season. It wasn't even in the top 50 among running backs. That is something they will correct this season. By the way, he still had eight touchdowns last year. So he had eight touchdowns. And he had two carries inside the five. So he's the real deal. He has the raw talent.

He has the pedigree. He's super young. just 22 years old and, again, forget everything about last year's offense, you know, last year's Atlanta offense. It doesn't matter. It's now a new system, a new quarterback, everything. He's ready to roll. In 2015, you introduced the wide receiver cornerback matchups, which I always find

interesting. I mean, back in the day, anybody lined up against Revis, you just, if you had a stud, you had to start them, but you knew it just wasn't going to happen for the most part. How much, like, who should we look out for if they're up against who, that we're like, oh man if it's if we're already like borderline that we should not start uh yeah that's a great question i mean uh lately it's been like that every week i'm writing about uh the jet secondary just how dominant they are in the perimeter because you know everyone knows sas gardener but j rea's is fantastic as well michael carter's in the slot so that's like an automatic repeat every week

i know whoever's playing the jets is a downgrade um you know i look at uh christian gonzalez in new england is a very fascinating one if you're looking for a breakout player in the NFL this season he was shadowing right out of the gate early last season looked like he was a fine by New England. He then got hurt Mr. Rest of this season. But he's a guy. I want to see if he comes out strong in week one and just picks up where he left off last season. It could be a little bit of a change there with the new scheme. In New England, Bella checks out and is historically just shadowed with number ones over the years.

Like going back to like a Malcolm Butler. I mean, the list goes on and on. They did so many good ones. But he's a very interesting one. So we learn a lot in week one. You know, we see which corners are going to shadow, which are not. Jerry's need was a really interesting one last year in Kansas City, but now he goes to Tennessee. Will he be used the same way?

You know, he got shadowing number ones all season last year for the Chiefs and what was one of their best defensive seasons ever. So that's always a fun experiment to do. I try to predict it for week one, see what the dynamics going to be. And then we learned so much about these new schemes in that first series of games. Who are you making your biggest reach on in accordance with the average? with their ADP. Like who do you feel like is so much better value than what their average draft position is? Oh, good question.

I think there's a few. I think a guy that I've really been trying to get my hands on because he's not super expensive. And by the way, like the first and second round receivers always looking for them later in the drafts. But also second year receivers. You know, you tend to see a leap of quarterbacks in that year, but also receivers sometimes, especially guys not picked early in the first. The later guys, that's when they make a leap. So Jackson Smith and Jigba in Seattle is a guy I'm looking at reports in the offseason have been fantastic for him.

Again, he was a late first rounder last year. He came into league super young. He was only 22. And don't be surprised we lead that team in targets this year. You know, D.K. Metcalf is going to open the season as they're one. They love to hit him near the goal line, get him his vertical targets, but not necessarily a dominant target share. Smith and Jigba could beat him out in that department. Don't be shocked at all.

I know Tyler Lockett's there as well. it's a new scheme, but Smith and Jigba appears to be the real deal. So very excited to see what he can do. And in 10-team leagues, and even 12 teams, you're in the eighth, ninth round. You're not paying too much for him. Fantasy-focused football podcast. It's Monday through Friday airing live on the ESPN app, YouTube and Facebook, available on the afternoon in podcast forum.

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He's such a stud, but if the stud can't get the ball, he can't do stud things. Yeah, a huge target chair last season, but the efficiency was the worst we've seen from Devante Adams. You know, it's not Aaron Rogers anymore, thrown in the ball. The good news is, you know, and I say this with some pause, I don't want to get too carried away on this,

but Gardner Minshu did finish 13th in QBR last season. He did, you know, I know this scheme was good in Indianapolis. It was fast-paced. They set him up for success. He did well. So, I think Minchu, he's certainly, I wouldn't say an above average starter, but, you know, he's not horrific. You know, so if he can just push the ball to Adams and give him 28 to 30 percent of the targets, you know, let's push for 8, 9, 10 a game. Adams is going to have another huge season, and that's why he's projected to still.

He's wide receiver 10 on my board at age 31. So I'm hopeful that it works out. I think the connection with Minchu could work. And by the way, if Aiden O'Connell eventually, they say, you know what, he's out playing him. He's the better guy. He beats out Minchu. That's better for Adams. That means that this young guy is an even better situation.

So we'll see how it plays out, but I think Adams probably has maybe one more big season in him. You can follow Mike at Mike Clay NFL. Hey, Mike, appreciate the time. Hope you have a great day and hope you have a lot of really good drafts, man. Thanks for hanging out with this. Yeah, good luck this season. Thanks for having me on. All right, thanks, man.

All right, just a reminder, we have picked our parlay for week zero. I hate week zero. But it is exciting. There's football. I just hate it being called week zero. It's week one. either call it week one or call it mystery week that's cool because zero means nothing

so here we go here's the parlay we're starting off strong we're going hawai money line over delaware state do you see they got delayed what do you mean Delaware state got delayed in new york oh their flight their flight are they missed their flight or something like that and then they're stuck at jfk for like 10 hours they didn't fly that one private no wow that's tough that's tough yeah that's a lot of equipment to get over there

do you mail all that crap you ship It's got to go on a boat. Overnight? Well, man, all your pads. I played high school football. You put your helmet in between your shoulder pads. You just go and throw it under the bus. They don't do that in college.

They don't do that. But it's Delaware State. They're flying southwest down to Hawaii, apparently. Hawaii Money Line over Delaware State, SMU. It's minus 27 at Nevada. So we're taking SMU in the points and then Montana State money line over New Mexico. I'll be honest with you guys. I don't know crap about any of these teams.

let's see. Except for SMU should be pretty good this year. And then Hawaii's a long way to go. Right. And Delaware State got delayed. And they have to carry their shoulder pads and helmets. That can't be good. Through the airport. Yes. Like helmet, face masks through the shoulder pad. That's how you carry there. But take the parlay. We usually do best when we have no idea what we're talking about, which is most of the time. If you want to take the 25 whistles parlay, check out Draft King's Sportsbook. New users use the code Bobby Sports when you download the app. Gambling problem. Call 1-800 gambler. In New York, call 877 8 Hope and Y or text Hope and Y 467369.

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Or the sick kid. What do you mean cancer kid? Well, that's why he called a shot. He promised it to the kid in the hospital. Oh, I didn't know that part. I thought he was just being Babe, being like, I'm going to hit it right over there. And why would Babe do that for no reason? You're true.

That's true. Unless I'm getting my stories mixed up, I believe he was a Wrigley filled. And I believe Babe called a shot because he told the kid in the hospital that he was going to hit him a home run. Dang, that's cool. We've got to go to our New York expert, though. Casey, is that good? true? Yeah, I believe that's true. And I think it was also the first all-star game of sorts

that the shot happened at as well. Okay, see, we're learning. And how much this actually happened? We don't know. We don't know. We weren't there. The World Series in 1926. He said, I'll knock a homer for you in the Wednesday game, kid. There you go. So it was, okay, do it again, Mike. What did you say? So it was, what was it? 1926 World Series, middle of the game.

Okay, so it was a postseason or like extra game. And then he did tell a kid he'd hit a home run for him. Do you say what the kid was suffering from? Hospitalized by getting kicked by a horse. Not cancer. Okay. See, I knew I was off a little bit. And he told him I'll knock a homer for you in the Wednesday's game.

But you see how we mess it up in a matter of like two minutes? Can you imagine all these years of people's stories mixing up? And by the time, like, it comes to us. We don't know anything. Yeah, I knew it was Wrigley filled, which meant it had to be an all-star game or a World Series. Yeah. Because the Yankees and the Cubs, A-L-N-L. So, and then I knew it was a hospital because I've seen the,

version of it on TV he was like, oh, I won him, boy, I'll get out. But I thought it was just generally cancer. It won for you there, kid. So the jersey he wore is going to set a new memorabilia record. Well, yeah. Yeah, no, but you say yeah, yeah, but...

What do you mean? What do you mean? It's not easily the most valuable thing ever in the history of sports. The Bay, Bruce, everyone knows him calling the shot. Yeah, yeah. You didn't. You didn't know even know what it's from. You didn't know the hospital thing was real. Dude, I've seen the pick. I've seen it all. Like, I've heard it. Dude, even when I play baseball sometimes, I do it just because the babe did it.

We all do that. We're not saying it's not an amazing moment, but you're acting like easily, that's the most valuable piece of memorabilia in the history of the world in your mind. Sports memorabilia. Michael Jordan, what? Yeah, exactly.

I would say Michael Jordan's first championship shoes that he signs. Bro. This is the babe. But you're just saying that because you know it's already the answer. My point is you were just kind of jumping along. But anyway, it's going to go for,

they think, around 18 to 20, million dollars. Wow. Which is crazy. So and then do you wear it or do you just leave it on your leave it on the wall? You don't wear it. You don't wear it. You don't wear it. You don't wear it. Dude, you bet one day I'm wearing that around the house. Um, and that's why you would never get it. Well, yeah. And that's why I don't have that kind of money. Yeah. Reg league softball game. Yeah, I did a Mark Grace. Yeah. You did. Um, so if there's not another bid based on what's been bid so far, the current top bid is $15.1 million. It's 5.5 million more than the, now this is a card, but the 1952 tops Mickey Mantle card at a 9.5 sold for 12.6 million two years ago.

Dang. Card. The previous all-time auction record for a game more in Jersey was 10.1 million paid at Sotheby's from Michael Jordan's 2000. No, 1998 NBA finals, game one, Jersey. Sold in 2002. But to pay $10 million for a jersey. Man, that's crazy. Because you say the Jordan one, right?

Like, say, I'm assuming it's someone's living room. They're having a cocktail party. And they're like, what is that? Got to be in some sort of a sports museum in somebody's house. Yeah. Like that has a, you don't just buy that and hang that by itself next to the family. Yeah. Okay.

And you also guard it. It's got to be guarded. You're just talking about, let's take the jersey and the sports off of it. It's $10 million. Yeah. Think of the ways people want to steal anything in your house. If they see any valuable in your car, they're going to bust a window. You have to protect, if they know $10 million is anywhere,

you've got to do the security video, electric monitoring. Yeah, see, I don't know about this. Doesn't I take the fun out of it, though? No, because I'm sure it's bought as an investment. I'm sure it's bought by a sports fan, but as an investment, because you're not going to spend $10 million on something to whack off at. Interesting. You know?

You're going to buy it because you're into sports, but you're also going to go, I'm buying this as an investment because I'm not going to spend $10 million on something that's just fun to me. Otherwise, you buy Michael Jordan's flu game jersey for a tenth of the price and just have fun with it. Yeah, I mean, yeah.

You understand how rich people think. See, I don't have any money. So I'm thinking like, yeah, I'd buy that $10 million, hang it up in my wall, have people over and be like, you know what that is? And you know what they do? They'd be thinking like, how do we break in and steal this later? Yeah, I didn't even think about that.

I know. It's crazy. Heritage execs still projecto, because this bid now, again, for the Ruth Jersey, they think it could possibly. I don't know when this ends, but it could. Why, you want to bid? No, God, no. No, you're crazy. I want everybody listening to, he was a kidding.

There's no. No, there's that, and then there's no. Bones, would you bid for fun? $30 million. No, because I don't want to get trapped with it. You're right. I don't get trapped. You never know.

You may not get outbid. That's from C-L-L-C-T-E. com. If you have that, you have to have the extra million dollars in security. So you have to have other money to protect the money that you just spent. Otherwise, I've seen enough Oceans movies to know if somebody's coming to get it. Yeah. You just watched all those, didn't you? I did. Well, parts of them. I'd seen them already, but my wife had never seen them. You know, I remember when Oceans 11 came out, it was mind-blowing. It's so good. And I thought after that, everything any kind of robbery is possible

any kind but I think it still is right I mean I wouldn't have thought of like the whole going down the lasers we don't think about robberies I mean those guys are good well they're also fictional but I would say that

if these are happening we're not knowing about them right a lot of these are just then people are embarrassed they got then they're fine black market art is constantly and that's from robberies Yeah. But do you see the story about Hank Aaron and the bases?

So Hank Aaron, he is the home run, all-time home run leader. Oh, yeah. Hammering Hank. When he hit the home run that set the all-time record, they pulled the bases. And like somebody that worked for the Braves at the time gave the bases to so-and-so. Okay, so the bases are up. Games over, they took the bases off.

So the bases are now. The bases were listed by heritage auctions. We have all the bases. But then one of the family was like, no, we have the third base. Ooh. It's something like that where they're even arguing which one was real. Oh, great. Because, again, how?

It's not like there's a photo match. I mean, photo match. It looks like the base. If you see the story, Kevin. Yeah, I'm reading it. It looks like the Braves are the ones that are challenging it. So they are. Yeah.

Because the Braves are challenging. but because they say that I think it was the third base. Somebody else has or claims they have the real one. And it was the family. It's the family. But again, you have this auction group going, we have it. You can buy all of them, one, two, three, and home. And then somebody going, not so fast because the Braves put a stop to it.

Gosh, how do you prove that? How do you prove which one's the real one? I think you set them both down. You cut them in half. You go, we're going to cut this in half. And whoever goes, no, no, no, no, don't. He can have it. That's who gets it.

because they love it the most. Is that the Bible? That's King Solomon. Yeah, that sure is. Dude, how cool, remember that story went to at St. Louis? Where they had all the old, they had bases there from a bunch of games. They had jerseys from everyone. Oh, you're talking about the gift shop.

Yeah. Yeah, we went into the gift shop. But it was all used stuff, even like office chairs. That was like part of an office and there at the stadium. It really was. It was like, yeah. They were selling everything. And it was dirt from certain games.

It was balls, foul balls, hit by certain players. Never the big players. for the most part. There's always secondary, you know, bad or 7-8-9. I do remember seeing bases there, but they would all have, like, plates on them. I don't know if they do that now

where, like, every game, they have a plate that says, game four of the Mets, you know, Cardinals. I don't think they throw every base away every day now. Oh, really? No, I don't think it's the... But... That's good to know, dude,

because when we were watching the Cardinals game, I was telling my kids, that's the base I broke my foot on. That one right there. It could have been, though, because they don't pull them every game and give them away. That's cool. But if something happens, or if they pull the base,

they're like, this base is now dead, they can assign something that actually happen on that base. Like, whatever the best thing that happened on that base, they can then go, George Brett, hit his 400th double on this base. Well, shoot, maybe I should call him and tell him that I broke my foot on that base. Yeah. Kevin, what do you see over there?

I see that the Baseball Hall of Fame gave Hank third base when he got inducted, and then he donated it to the Hall of Fame. Okay. And that's where they're upset. The Hall of Fame and the Braves are saying, no, we have the base. So it is third base they're fighting about.

Home play first and second, all good. But who's got the real third base? And both are claiming and both think it's the real third base. And how do you really find out? Do you just have to take the loss? Do you melt them together and make two new ones and they both have a little bit of the original and the values down,

but now you have two instead of one, which is better than none. Dang. It's getting to some legal stuff, too. Yeah. Because it was up for auction. Yeah. They were up all the...

And Eddie would just put in his backyard and have a softball game and be like, hey, buddy, come over and have a drink. It's the Hank Aaron basis. It's the Hank Aaron basis. One place of woof-a-mo. I'd like to conclude the show with a little talk. Had a wrecked softball game last night.

I had one two weeks ago as well, but the one two weeks ago, the game started at 9 p.m. Who, what adult in their right mind can play rec softball game at 9 p.m? Normal people. No, they don't even want to play. I didn't play because I have to get up so early. But even they were like, it's miserable because you play nine until 10. You get home at 10.30, 10.45. You get to bed until midnight, 12.30.

It's terrible. So we had an 8 o'clock game, which is about the very edge of when I can play. And I haven't slept all week. I was like, man, I really don't want to go. And I always want to go. I'll look forward to it so much. But I went and we go, we're playing. We're up third inning, 17 to 1.

It is brutal. And so, ah, we just started dicking around. We lost 24, 23. What? From that lead? Wow. It's a crazy, crazy comeback. When you say dicking around, like, what were you guys doing?

Like, Savannah banana stuff? Yeah, everybody's playing position I don't normally play. Like, we were all like. Was there like a bunch of air? Or were they just hitting the crap out of the wall? No, both. But I'm telling you, for like two innings, everybody was like, what a position if you're not played forever?

Oh, no. It's so stupid. We were so stupid. You like let the kids play that never play. And it's like people are playing shortstop. They never played shortstop. Like, I always wanted to play shortstop. Dang.

And we lost. And we deserved it. And it hurt a little bit. And they were getting malady with the Empire, but they sucked. And we sucked because we made bad, we made bad strategic decisions. But we ended up losing in the last inning 24, 23. That's tough. Dang.

Yeah, I was so tired. I was so tired I wasn't even competitive. Like I never left my position for the record. I played first base the whole night. I was like, I'm not. Did anybody try to get it? No, because it's just where I play now. But we all, I've never had it.

It was 17 to 1. And then it'd be in 24, 23. Last inning. We had a chance to come back. We were the home team. And then I was up first and I got a hit. And then it was out, out, out. And then that was it.

It was hilarious. You try to steal. at the end? Nah, it's softball, bro. There was a guy on the other team who was dressed in full baseball uniform. Like what team? No, I don't know. It looked like he came out of the corn. Pinstrives? Full uniform. When he would get on base, he would like hold things with his hands, like he was going to slide head first. No, he didn't. Yeah, I swear to God. And I'm not making fun of him. I'm jealous. I don't love anything in my life as much as this guy loves playing rec softball. That's cool. I love playing rec soft, but I'm telling, and he was

diving. It's like he waited every minute of every day countdown clock to be able to play Rex off ball again. Full baseball like that. Full uniform. Like pants, leggings. Was he good? No.

He was fine. Mid at best. But he went hard and I was jealous because there's nothing I love as much as that guy loved that hour. Yeah, you got to respect that. Hey, are you guys have uniforms? Are you guys just kind of like bad news We didn't have uniforms. We have a t-shirt now that they bought.

It has the guy from Sandlot. Squintz? The great Bambino. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's on it. But it was just like, we might as well get a shirt that matches. And so we won last week.

Got to play that 9 o'clock game. And then last night we were up big time. And then everybody wants to play their new positions. And at the end of the game, everybody's kind of like, we made a mistake. When they were coming back, when they were marching back harder, but it was like, I think we made a mistake by goofing around. for the last two.

But they won it. They had to hit balls. They had some home runs at the end over the fence. They won. Were they pumped? Yeah, but, and they were a little mouthy, which good for them. They want to be malady. They came back and won.

Honestly, I was so tired. I did not care? But I was thinking to myself, did they not see us, like, all playing different positions? But then, even then. Maybe not. Maybe they were just like, oh, they want to disrespect us. So they deserved to win in every way. I've never had to come back like that before on me.

It was hilarious. Dang, dude. And they smacks and homers and... People drinking? Is it a beer league? Kind, I guess. I don't know. Our team isn't.

Okay. Unwritten rule, maybe? I don't know. Our team wasn't... Our team wouldn't. I really don't want to say who our team is. Yeah, I got you. I got you.

Not because they're famous, but because I kind of... I didn't know who I was playing with. And when I signed up with them, the guy was just like, hey, come and play. We need a spot because I posted on social media. And I'm pretty good. I wouldn't say I'm the best out there.

I'm probably top. If there's 20 people out there, I'm probably top three or four. You can't say I'm pretty good anymore. Like you were MVP at the last year. Yeah, but I was really on during that game. But it doesn't matter. That's an accolade where you're just like that. Sorry, man, I'm really good now.

That's just who I am. But I'm not. There are guys out there that were like ball players that still are really good. So I'm never like the first, second best player out there. But I'm pretty good. But no, it is a hilarious night. And then it's late. Oh, it's only game my wife's ever come to too.

Oh, no. Her and her parents. That's not good. Yeah, because they're in town. So they were like, we'll come to the game. My wife did not want to go to the game to begin with. She was like, I don't want to go. And her parents are like, we'll come?

And she's like, fine. So they sat on the bleachers. And Caitlin's like, are they coming back? Are you letting them score just in the game? Caitlin's subbed in. She's like in the game. She was talking to you during the game? I would go sit with them.

Oh. Your head wasn't in the game then. Mine was. I played all right. Yeah. If you're going to. of the bleachers talking to your family during the game, bro, your head's not in the game. There's no game for my head to be in.

Slow pit softball league. So that's it. Thank you guys. I hope you have a great day and share this. Please share it with somebody. Follow us on the 25 Whistles account. If you're listening on the Bobby Bone Show account, we'd appreciate that. Hope you have a great weekend.

We will see you guys on Monday. I think we have the NFL preview Monday. Yes, there. And then a couple episodes next week as well. Yes. So we will see you guys then. Bye, everybody. Eddie blows out.

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