The Bobby Bones Show - 25W: Super Bowl Champ Andrew Whitworth + What Bobby is Attracted To + A Chance to Cry

Episode Date: October 1, 2024

Long-time NFL offensive tackle, Andrew Whitworth joined Bobby to talk about getting recruited by Nick Saban, why his former team needs to trade a premiere wide receiver, why the Vikings are for real. Plus, Bobby discusses what attracted him to his wife Caitlin when they first started dating. With Arkansas and the Jets losing this past weekend, Bobby and Casey get a chance to cry about it.    Download the DraftKings Sportsbook App today: https://dkng.co/bobbysports   If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/MI/NJ/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/NH), 888-789-7777/visit http://ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 1-877-770-STOP (7867) (LA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), call/text TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA).   21+ (18+ WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/LA/MI/NJ/ NY/PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. N/A in NH/OR/ON. New customers only. Valid 1 per new customer. Min. $5 deposit. Min $5 wager. $200 issued as eight (8) $25 free bets. Ends 9/19/22. See http://draftkings.com/sportsbook for details.       Follow the Show: @BobbyBonesSports   Follow the Crew: @MrBobbyBones @ProducerEddie @KickoffKevin @MikeDeestro @ReidYarberrySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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So dumb. What's up? So a couple things. Pete Rose died. But only after Dekembe Mutumbo died. Which I got a friend yesterday. A friend sent me a... It doesn't matter, but he's an idiot.

And he goes, I get that. He said, I think my card's worth more now, and he sent me an autograph to Kimbe Mutembo card. And I was like, what do you mean? I didn't even know he died. I was on the way home from work. And he said he died. And I was like, well, that's a weird way to tell me. That is a weird way to say. I would have also seen once I got home,

but I don't really like a Twitter on my phone. Does the value of a car... Go up, like as soon as somebody dies like that? It's funny that's what you would take from me telling you that. Yeah, I mean, I didn't know that. Mostly, I think that's a pretty weird way to say that. I mean, rest in peace first. Yes.

And then, wow, I didn't know. Once somebody dies, they obviously can sign no more. So there's limited now. So since they can't sign anymore. And when someone dies, there's a brief pop. And then it kind of comes back down. But then overall signatures are worth a little more because there are no more being signed. Okay.

Like Kobe stuff's very valuable, not just because he's Kobe, because he died and he can't sign anymore. But then Pete Rose signed a lot. Oh, that's all he did. Right. But Dekembe Mutumbo first. He died of brain cancer at 58. Wow. So young.

Wild. I just think of him waving that finger when they were the eight seed. I remember them winning. I think being the first eight to be to one, if I'm my memory is correct. But yeah, he was also a huge advocate for a lot of things, but like Special Olympics, CDC Foundation, the Dekembe Mutumbo Foundation in 1997 that focuses on health, education, quality of life. he spoke nine languages.

Wow. I know. Reed, you can barely do one. I barely. Pete Rose also died at age 83. Pete Rose, who played most of his baseball career with the Cincinnati Reds,

died at 83. He was a 17-time All-Star. Wow. He won three World Series championships. It was named both National and World Series MVP, two Gold Glove Awards. With all of that,

what he's mostly known for is gambling on baseball. Yeah. Which is unfortunate. Unfortunately. Yeah. No, he did it to himself. No, I get it, but unfortunately for him, that's how we know.

But he also bet on his own team. It doesn't matter. You can't gamble on baseball at off. You're a manager, but you can't gamble on your own team. Does it matter that he was, if he was gambling only for them to win? That's a little different. It's also inside. No pun intended.

It's also inside baseball. Like you know. Gotcha. Yeah, like you can change what you're doing in order to get an advantage for like a Friday game. Instead of if you were going to pick. your ace on a sat. There are different things you can do to manipulate. So no, no. And I think he will get in the Hall of Fame now that he has died. Because again, he's one of the best ever. Did you know he never drank? Ever? No. Just gambled. Like me.

It's like you, dude. Exactly like you. He was a great baseball player. You know, some people would say I was MVP at the Celebrity All-Star softball games. I forgot about that. I was still in my peak of my 40s though, you know? He was over by then. But yeah, he signed stuff every day all the time. I just sold, we just sold a Pete Rose jersey. We had a Pete Rose signed jersey. I mean, I feel like every time I went to Vegas, there was a Pete Rose signing going on that weekend.

He lived out there, and that's what he did to make money. Major League Baseball announces are going to go back, which I think is great, to letting the players wear their team's uniform in the All-Star game. I didn't like the Universal All-Star uniform, mostly because when I was a kid, Bo Jackson wore the Royals. Now it was either white or it was dark,

depending on if they were the home or away team. But you just saw a white. what team they were. And some of the All-Stars, I don't even know who they were. So I need to know what team they were on. Yeah, yeah, that helped. Yeah, and also, even if I did know who they were from their name and seeing them a little bit, they're not like basketball or football players where baseball is so popular that you just know them by their face. Like if Pete Alonzo walked in the room, I'd be like, man, I know you from somewhere. The polar bear? And I don't think I would know because he's not, his face is not everywhere. Yeah.

But I do like that they're doing that. And maybe it's just because that's what they did. Because back in the day, when the All-Star game happened, it was awesome. Like, I would wait. I'd be like, this crazy. All-Star games tonight. Because it was before Interleague play. So NL and AL didn't play each other. And so they played each other. And you're like, this is the craziest thing. Until the World Series, they didn't.

And so, yeah, those are three stories that aren't football related that I kind of wanted to get to here. We're going to start with our Andrew Whitworth interview. He was great. Oh, yeah, he's awesome. I knew he'd be good. He was so fun to hang out and talk with. So here's our talk with former NFL offensive linemen

Andrew Wentworth, Whitworth, Whitworth. Whitworth. I had a child psychologist named Wentworth. Yeah, I'm thinking of, J.G. Wentworth. 877.7.combe. Andrew Whitworth, who, by the way, when he was playing, they're always like, he's the oldest ever. He's the oldest offensive line.

He looks old. When he was playing, he looked like he was really old. His skin looks young. The only thing that looks old on him is his gray beard. He just grays earlier. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because he's not, we're talking with him. He's not an old-looking guy.

Nope. He played in the league for 15 years. He's a beast. He won a Super Bowl with the Rams, four-time pro-bowler, national championship at LSU in 2003. You can catch him analyzing Thursday night football for Amazon Prime. Here he is, Andrew Whitworth. Andrew, thanks for the time, man. Of course, dude.

Hey, do your friends call you Andrew? Like, what are your friends call? It's such a formal, cool name. Witt. Ah, Witt. They call me Witt. Big Witt, Witt, Andrew. It's all over the place. When did you get big as a kid?

When were you bigger than everybody else? I was always big. So I was always kind of known as big wit. Did you play offensive line in like sixth grade? No, I was always like really tall. I was actually a basketball player and played tight end, defensive end and football. But I was I played basketball.

I was like a pitcher in baseball. I was really tall and lean when I was in school. So I didn't really gain a lot of weight until I was in college as far as getting like linemen size. When you were recruited before you went to LSU, did they recruit you as an offensive? lineman or could you have kind of picked which line you wanted to be on? You know, that's one of the reasons I ended up there. Nick Saban was the only guy that was honest with me, you know?

Everybody else just lied to me. It told me I was going to play tight-in and catch footballs. No, they did. Everybody said I was going to be a tight-in. And then Nick Saban was like, you know what? I could tell you to be a tight-in here, but or you could move to the offensive line and be a left tackle for like 20 years if you'd like to do that. And well, he was right.

What's Sabin like recruiting? Because he's supposed to be the best, right? Yeah, I mean, he's unbelievable. I mean, you see it now. I think more people are going to probably get a glimpse into who saving is and what he's like watching him work on game day. Because probably the guy that you always saw is so intense and, you know, people thought, you know, mean or harsh at times, the reality is he knows exactly how to get what he wants out of people. And whatever that takes, he's a master motivator and a person who can really speak things into exactly what he's. he wants out of you, out of his process and all those things he talks about.

So he's just unbelievable at it, man. He's really good at being able to articulate exactly what he needs from you and what his vision is for things. And he can really mold himself into whoever he needs to be in a conversation to be able to get that out of you. I have about 14 people on my staff and I have to, I won't say coach, but I have to lead in different ways, like different personalities, require different leadership styles.

And I wonder with a coach like Nick Sabin, And is he one size fits all or is he different depending on the kind of person player that he's leading? I think he's different depending on who he's leading. I think that just watching him, I watched him throughout my career at LSU, his ability really to know exactly how he can lead someone. Now, that's different to me than what are the standards of our culture and what are the standards of how we do everything we do. Now, he is the ultimate standard upholder. And I was somebody, that's what my biggest influence I took from him. Whatever the standard was at a play set, I do not play around with that.

And that is not negotiable ever. And he was that way. But when it comes to relationships, he knew whether it was a guy. I remember this when I was at LSU, one of the things he would do. He had a car that he drove because our facility was away from the actual academic building, an athletic building that he had his office. He would drive his car to practice and everyone else rode the bus. After the practice, he would always grab a guy or two and say,

right back with me to the facility. And that was his way of just kind of having an intimate moment with you. Maybe you're a guy that needs a little love. Maybe you're a guy that needs a little challenging. Whatever it was that he felt that guy needed, that was kind of the tone of that conversation with him. And he was really good at that. And then he also knew when it's time to challenge somebody

or when it's time to put somebody on blast and say, all right, this guy needs it, he can handle it. He would do that in a meeting. He challenged you in front of everybody. because that was the setting that that would be okay. And he's really good at the sport psychology of understanding how you challenge people you work with, how you bring the best out of people, and what really, you know, people are going to respond to the most. You bring up an interesting point where we are feeling like we're getting to know Nick saving a little better,

especially watching college game day. Same thing with Belichick, right? Because those two guys, they stand up at the podium and it's like they're going to say like six words. They may chastise you a little bit. But now, like, they're both kind of likable. don't know if it's the juxtaposition of being really unlikable and now they're mildly likable or if I just like them now. But it's pretty cool to see both of them actually be real humans. Yeah. And I think you have to understand. I think for me as someone who knew Nick and then Bill

used to come sometimes to LSU because of obviously their relationship, understanding both of them, I always found it funny the whole time because I just know they know exactly what they're doing. And it's not, you know, this isn't irrational. This isn't like anger, like, oh, man, I'm out of control. This is either a day where Nick Saban has decided I'm going to send messages through this press conference to my players or to the people who are watching the University of Alabama or LSU will want these answers. Here's my message, you know, today in this press conference.

For Bill, it was there will be no message. The only message I ever need to give will be inside my locker room and inside my meeting rooms. I have no need to give a message. And so you know that they are never really out of control. They are doing exactly what they want to do when they want to do it. Nick was a master at that. And that's part of what I mean. You'd be at a practice.

He'd walk by you once I became really close to him. Then I was an older player. And he'd be like, hey, watch this. And he'd go over there and he'd challenge some coach or he'd challenge some player. And then he'd come by with a little snicker and a little smile, like that little grin. And you knew like, man, he knows exactly what he's doing. at all times, even though it may be perceived a different way, he was really rare at that ability to get the best out of people.

I think you've transitioned as a broadcaster. Like, you're awesome on Thursday Night Football. Like, as far as, like, the group and the whole group's up there, like, you're warm. Obviously, you know what you're talking about, but there's a difference in knowing what you're talking about and actually talking about it where people can understand it. I think you've become extremely relatable as somebody who's really unrelatable because you're like an awesome athlete. do you feel like now you're kind of in the pocket?

Because I feel like you're killing it at this point. It's a lot of fun. I don't think I ever thought I would enjoy it this much. I mean, being an offensive lineman, when I got in the league in 2006, your offensive line coach started meetings with like, hey, if one of you guys speaks to the media this week, like you're going to have punishment, or you're going to put money in a pot,

or we're going to criticize you never talk to the media. So when you're an offensive lineman, it was like, we're not allowed to talk to the media. And then by the end of my career, it's like you got guys on shows and podcasts and all the stuff I'm like man what is going on so I never really like thought about being part of the media but throughout my career people would always say you really should when you got done and I tried it and I've loved it and it's a whole new locker room for me it's not just you know you know this it's not just the people

you know that are outside and you're looking at on the camera I mean all the people behind the camera just the crew the group we travel with every week I couldn't love them all more, all our producers and staff and just the people that are our village of people that we take on the road every week. It's a blast, man. It's a whole new locker room for me. And when you leave the game of football or any sport, for that matter, you hear guys struggle with that, right? You go from this locker room and circle that you're in for so long to you don't have one anymore. And for me, it's been an awesome transition into that. And then getting on camera and just talking about a game I love that's changed my life, that people across this entire country love. I mean, it's a blast.

It's fun. I mean, what are we talking about? This is awesome. So I have two Bengals question. One about when you played, but then I want to roll into the Bengals now. They've won one game. And I'm going to ask about their defense in a second. But I do want to talk about when you played there. And, you know, growing up, I was a massive boomer, a Saisman fan. I was a left-handed quarterback.

And that was like him. And then it became Steve Young because I just wanted somebody that was like me, except I wasn't good. But playing for the Bengals, you know, it's constantly like they don't have money or the owners, all of his money is invested into the team. so he's not like a billionaire that has, so their practice facility sucks. So what was it like playing for the Bengals for 10 years? And did you feel in comparison to other friends who were playing in the league,

you did not have the resources they had? I mean, it was a struggle at first. I don't like a lot to you. At first, it was one of those things where coming from, I played in an awesome program in Louisiana. We were 58 and 2 when I was in high school. We won three state championships in my four years in school. Then going to LSU and being a part of Nick's,

Sabin's first run at, you know, a major SEC university and really the run he went on, you know, to become the Dolphins coach and then Bama's coach and won all the championships. And we won a national championship. We were the winningest four-year group, you know, in LSU's history at that time. To come to Cincinnati where at that time, I think they'd had one, you know, playoff successful, call it division championship winning season in like 20 years, it was different, you know, because I thought Marvin Lewis was doing a heck of a job, but it was just an organization that was so far behind the times that my first year in 06,

we were competitive and then 07-08, it started to fall off. And it got to a point in 08 where I was just so frustrated with all of it. It's like, yeah, our food situation isn't great. Like we don't have the nicest cafeteria setup ever. We don't have the nicest weight room ever. All of it's pretty bad. And it's probably pretty low on the total as far as in the league. It's probably in the bottom five, you know, of any facilities.

But that's really not an excuse to win or lose. And so you're still frustrated about though. But when you start to lose and you start to see the locker room fall off and guys really attention to detail fall off and you have all those things, it really became a struggle. And so for me, that's really when it turned around for me, having a moment in 08 where I kind of put my foot down with some other guys and we really look at the end of that 08 season.

Even though we had a bad year, we ended it in a much better fashion. and that led to us winning the division in 2009 and going to the playoffs. And then really from there on, you know, going to the playoffs six out of the next seven years. And so I think for us it's really, it was a struggle, but it was one of those things that, hey, at some point you got to put your foot in the ground and make it better and say, you know what? Besides how they spend money and how they do things, we're still in control of the product on the field and we've got to find a way to be better. Cincinnati will always only be successful when they draft well. And that's just the truth. They're not going to put a lot of resources into the other things.

and so that will dictate their success level. Let's talk about the Bengals this year. They finally win. The defense seems to be the struggle now. Your thoughts on the Bengals season so far, and they're in a division where I feel like they can still actually win the division. I mean, Pittsburgh is leading now. I don't feel like Pittsburgh is long to be that number one spot there.

How do you feel about the Bengals this year? And is it a defensive deficiency? Yeah, I think it's been a struggle. You know what? I think going into the year, I felt better about how they'd be on secondary than maybe being able to stop the run. And then kind of everything's kind of falling apart because of that. I think it's one of those things that once you kind of get in that world where teams feel like there's a place they can expose you,

then you start to overcompensate and then all of it starts to be a struggle, right? And so I think for them defensively this year, you look at it up front. I mean, Trey Henderson is kind of a one-man show. I mean, his ability to create pressure and impact the quarterback is really probably all teams think about when they go on the week and they say, hey, as long as we can keep him from hitting the quarterback or at least limit it some, the rest of it, we should be successful as far as when you talk about winning those upfront battles. And so I think it's unfortunate.

They need another guy out there with him for sure. They're not going to do it by spending money in free agencies. That's not their thing. So it's going to have to be through the draft. And I think the really tough part for them that no one's going to want to hear is that they're going to probably have to think about one of these receivers, he's got to get traded. so they can get some value and probably trade. You'd be able to get picks to be able to upgrade their team.

And it'd be nice to have two dominant receivers, but you know what? It doesn't help you any if you can't stop anybody on defense. So they've got to get this team better, so they've got to find ways to get trade value picks and be able to draft because that's what takes such success. You go look at any Cincinnati Bengal run in history where they've had a winning season or a winning team for multiple years.

It's draft related. And so they've got to get those draft picks. I mean, I can't imagine. It's just me, them trading Jamar Chase, but he also won't sign a new contract. I mean, would they trade Jamar Chase? I mean, I could see T. Higgins possibly. You know, T. Higgins or Jamar. I mean, they got to pick one.

I mean, both of them are really good football players. Both of them, there's a bunch of teams in the league that would take them right this second. Can Cincinnati turn it around and win some games and get themselves competitive this year? Sure, they've shown it. They've shown the ability that the one positive you have there from how they've started this season, And the positive outlook is they have shown the ability to go on absolute crazy runs and win a lot of football games. I don't know if they've done it with this defense being where it's been right now. And so I think that's going to be the tough part.

And I know it's got to be frustrating for Lou Anirumo, who's done a great job there, just that they can't quite get the pieces they need to be as competitive as they want to be. What about Kansas City with Rashid Rice? Looks like maybe an ACL injury going to be out for a while. They have what, Xavier. That's it. They have one rookie receiver who they said just could run in a straight line, although he did have a few routes this last week. And they've been winning ugly.

I mean, is the Chiefs, is their ceiling? Can they win the Super Bowl again if they don't pick anybody else up? One thing I've learned over the last couple of years, you will not get me to say it's impossible for them to win the Super Bowl or do anything because all we do is say, man, they're struggling here, they're struggling there, it doesn't look like a Super Bowl team and then they make it back to the Super Bowl. So I'm not going to say they can't make it there. Can they win it?

I don't know, but I think that you're going to see them make a move. I mean, I think they have to. This or she-rice injury is bad enough. I mean, got to feel like they make a trade of some kind to bring in another guy because, you know, right now I know that, you know, they expect it was torn ACL and they're still doing some more testing. But gosh, I mean, it just feels like they've got to get another weapon because it's too good of a football team to really let this window miss. And then also, you're talking about history, a chance to three-peat. I think it's worth the trade in this era. Last night, Gough didn't miss a single throw.

And that's pretty amazing. You ever play offensive line for a guy that's in the freaking zone? And you're just like, this is a wild day. I've played offensive line for a couple guys in the zone. Matthew Stafford, Carson Palmer. I mean, Andy Dalton had some good runs. Jared Gough, obviously, in L.A. as well. It made me think of we played the Minnesota Vikings on Thursday night football in 2018 with Jared

golf at quarterback. And he was in the zone that night, too. And we got up pretty big on those guys very quickly. And when he gets going, man, the guy can throw the football. So if you give him time, you let him play within the process of rhythm of a play, man, he can throw the football. And I always say this, man, the guy, when he gets hot, it's like the golfer who just can't miss a shot. And he got hot last night and he stayed hot. And man, this Detroit Lions team again, like they continue to be on those teams that you got to say at the end, they're going to be there at that the NFC title chance. Hey, Witt, since we're talking about teams here, let's talk about my Dallas Cowboys.

You were just there on Thursday. Like what is going on with them? What is happening with them? I mean, when they started the season, the first week was so strong. And then all of a sudden, we're like, oh, we've got problems. What are you seeing? Well, I think, you know, one thing we've kind of learned quickly in this season is, I don't know if Cleveland's the best test of how good teams are right now.

You know, they haven't played very well over there. And then, you know, with Dallas, I think it's interesting because, you know, they continue to tell us all offseason that everyone was crazy for thinking they should have done more and that they had everything they needed and they're all in. But there's no proof that they're all in. And then the whole contract thing. I mean, I just like we just, we talk about culture all the time in sports and leadership and all these things. But to think like Dak Prescott and C.D. Lamb and all these guys, like guys, it's not even in question whether they're going to be a part of the roster for the next few years. years, it's got to happen. So just get the contract done.

And don't send it into training camp and almost the regular season of all this turmoil within the team of like, man, is everybody on their last year here? The head coach is on his last year? Like, what happens after this year? Once guys start thinking about that, guess what they're not thinking about? The moment they're in exactly in and what they need to do to dominate that day and be a part of that process and be about the culture that they're a part of. Like, how do I pour everything I have into us being in our best?

So when you talk about, man, the Cowboys look like they've been a little distracted. Heck, yeah, they do because this is exactly the situation you put them in. And so I just think from a standpoint of, yes, if the Cowboys drafted well in history, have they been able to acquire talent and stay really competitive? And every year they're a freaking good football team. I don't think they handled the last six to seven months with this football team very well. And I think that's just a fact. And so right now they're a little undermanned at some spots with some of these injuries.

and then also the reality is they're just not as good as they have been in the past. Final three questions. Let's stay with the NFC East. Eagles struggling. Giants, terrible. This is my words, not yours. Giants terrible. Cowboys, who knows.

The commanders. Shocking everyone. Yeah, but I just, just that, as the commanders in the football team, they've always just been terrible. Now, the Redskins had their wins, but I just can't associate them with winning, even though I'm watching Jada Daniels play. Like, will the commanders win that division? division? Listen, you know what? Dan Quinn's a pretty special human, but if they can win that

division, that's pulling off a pretty special feat. I don't think anybody had them even in vicinity of thinking they'd be close to winning this division, but we say it all the time. Quarterback matters, and having a really good one in this league right now seems to be one the most important things you can do for your football team. And Jane Daniels has done an amazing job. Cliff Kingsbury and him seem to be a great marriage together. I think he's, it's been awesome to watch. When you see a young guy that's talented like that, it comes in just with the ability to impact the game.

It's been fun to watch this team. I don't know if they can hold up throughout the year because I feel like they're one of those teams that they're good, but with a couple injuries here or there, it's going to be tough to see this roster, make it through and win the NFC East. But what a heck of a start and a cool way to see. Jaden Daniels, a guy, I watched the LSU,

have a lot of success. You know what? Come out and really say, hey, I'm the next C.J. Stroud. I'm the next great quarterback in this league. I loved watching him against Cincinnati, just the energy and passion he had for put it all on me, coach. I got this.

I hated watching Cincinnati lose, but I loved watching a former tiger play the way he has. When I watch you on TV, I think, dang, that's a cool jacket. Like, dang, that's a cool shirt. Do you pick your clothes out, man? Because I think you're the best dress out of everyone on that set. I do. I, you know, we obviously have people that, you know, help us with that and all our road road stuff.

But I love to be a part of it. So I always have them come in at the beginning of the year. We kind of pick out all our outfits. So me and Kenny get together. And she kind of like, I'll say, hey, here's the idea and concept that I want to go with this year. And we have fun with it. I actually enjoy it. I actually enjoy picking out some clothes.

The hoodie, you know, has been a lot of fun. People love it. Haven't actually rock the hoodie this year yet for a game. So I'm going to, it's coming out soon, though. I've got a lot of grief. People want to know where the hoodie is, the sports coat. It's coming, though. I'm just kind of making people wait a little bit.

Be patient, you know. So it's coming back, though. Final question. We talk about the commanders and you're like, hey, they may not last, but it's been cool to watch it. What are the Vikings? Will they suffer the same fate in your mind, or are they just good? I think they're pretty good, man.

I think you look at the job blind for us and, you know, really Kevin O'Connell have done there, both those guys. it's been special to watch. I mean, they're almost getting teams do what they want rather than really responding to what other teams do. And I think it's been impressive. I think you look at it, though, even to start this season, you thought, all right, man, the Vikings started hot on defense and offense.

And Sam Donald's obviously playing out of his mind, but they got a lot of talent on this football team. But let's see some adversity. And I thought, yeah, even though this score of this game, the Vikings jumped up huge against the Green Bay Packers, I love seeing them, like, get some fight back from the Packers. and then have some adverse moments where they get put in some tough situations defensively and they got to respond and find a way to create a turnover or find a way to make a big play.

I thought that was good to see is that even when they jump out like that and then a team makes a run back at them and puts them in some tough situations that they handle it well. And so I think this is impressive. I mean, to be able to win some of these games, they pulled off the way they've won them in dominating fashion and really the way they've dominated games at times, I think this team's here to stay. I think Sam Darnold's here to stay too. I think he's going to have a great season. And Kevin O'Connell is one of the best play college in the game right now.

And so is the guy on the other side of football. And Brian Fores. This coaching staff here is really good. And I see them as being a team that's going to be good for the rest of the season. Final bonus question. Do you have your ball that you caught as a touchdown, your one touchdown? Do you keep that ball? You know, I do have that football.

And it was a special day. It was my birthday. And it was also, we were expecting twins, our first kids. kids. Our first time out to shoot me in parents, we had twins, and my wife was expecting them. And I didn't know what to do. She's, you know, I think it was 20-something weeks pregnant with twins. It's like, do I tell her that I might catch a touchdown in the first play of the game? The first driver of the game, do I not? It's my birthday. We're in Pittsburgh, which made it even better. And also, you know, happen to have a former LSU teammate in Ryan Clark, who may or may not

have been supposed to be covering me. I'm not entirely sure of their defensive scheme. But I did catch the touchdown pass and spiked it in the end zone right up in front of all the Pittsburgh fans. So that was a really cool moment for me. The only problem was I didn't tell my wife. And I think she almost had our twins on the living room floor when it happened. So I got yelled at when I got home and a hug and a kiss. So it was a mixture of both. And you wouldn't got the ball. Someone wouldn't got the ball for you. Oh yeah. I got the football baby. We're good. That's going nowhere. You do a great job. You're a lineman. You catch one pass. You tell your kids

about it every day. Okay, listen, every day. I'm always willing to tell that story, I promise. Amazon's Thursday night football, excellent job. You're killing it, and you guys can follow Andrew on Instagram at Andrew Whitworth-77. We really appreciate the time.

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two because the Bengals have no defense, and so they're going to have to throw. If I were to say Baker Mayfield, more or less than 240.5 passing yards. More! Baker's been playing really well. So this is, this

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My oldest is 16. So there are two freshman wide receivers. There's 17, maybe once turned 18 now. That's crazy. Oh, and they're killing. The Alabama wide receiver? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's 17.

He left high school early, and he's a five-star kid, and he's the most dominant player on the field. So Ryan Williams has 16 receptions on the season, 460 yards, five touchdowns for Alabama. He's a year older than your son. I mean, there's got to be something in the water. Like, they just, I mean. Or just genetic. So, like, in time, so explain genetics to me. So in time, the genetics get.

better just based on what we're... Or they can say the same or they can get they can become worse. It's also about who you're mating with. So let's say get better. If I have a kid and hopefully one day I will, my wife and I have a kid, I would expect that kid to be a better athlete than I am

because my wife is an A plus athlete. Because I hope what would be terrible is if they get my your side of the stuff, yeah. If they get like my looks and my athletic ability, that's going to suck. They're in trouble. I know. But you know what? I wish I was more like you when I was dating.

Like I wish I was more. I'm not dating now. No, no, no, I know. But you've always thought like this. Like, oh, genetics. If I were dating and I love my wife. But I didn't go pick my wife because I was like, these are some great genetics to marry you. I'm just saying I'm very happy with my family.

This is unfair how you're setting me up, though, for you just to talk about you. So you can talk about you, but don't set me up in this. Let's take you out of it. Oh, thank God. If I, well, I don't even want to say if I can go back. But it's just interesting. Like, I would have done things a little different. have been like, all right, give me the best genetics.

You're very smart. You play, you're an athlete. Then I would think about my future that way and be like, dude, our kids are going to be awesome. But I didn't think that. But I don't think I did it either. But what I'm attracted to are really smart people that can challenge me. And I'm attracted to it, but I'm also like, I get so turned off by it because she beats crap out of me as far as like, I can't argue with her.

No lead up. I'll lose. I've never had that happen to my whole life. I feel like I can get into an argument with anybody. in the whole world or a debate. And even if I don't know I can figure it out during, I can't do that with her. So sometimes I'll do the thing where it's like,

I'm just not going to talk. I'll say that. Well, can you want to play this game? I don't say anything. You just, you're just quiet. But really what I'm doing is I know I've been outmatched. And so that's what attracts me to her. I didn't like put it on a chart and go like,

if I get her pregnant. The athletic ability, I didn't even know until we just like started playing a ball. because she was like an all-state softball player and we'd play basketball yeah you didn't meet her on the court and she was lights out and I'd be like what and then you see her dad

and her dad's in his 60s but it's still like extremely athletic and built and his pictures when he's like in his 40s he has eight abs yeah her Kaylon's sister was an all-state basketball player state championship team her brother played college basketball he's like 6-7

so that I just was fortunate enough to fall into But I'm very attracted to that as well. No, no, totally, totally. But I didn't pick her because I wrote down some, okay, I must have genetic. Right. And I'm happy with the way my life turned out. Yeah, we can tell.

It's just, I never thought of that when I was dating. Seems smart. There are certain people that look for certain, sure. But for the most part, you kind of go with what you're attracted to. Because like the mannings, like they must have married athletic women, right? I don't know. I don't know if the mom was an athlete or not. Maybe you looked that up, Mikey.

See. Because the dad obviously was. Obviously, but man, if you marry an athletic, you're already an athlete and you marry an athletic woman. I think Christian McCaffrey's parents, I believe they're both athletes. I think his mom was like a runner or something. That's amazing. Yeah. But anyway, these kids are 17.

It's unbelievable. Jeremiah Smith has 19 receptions for the year of 3 or 60 yards, five touchdowns for Ohio State. He had two one-handed catches. Even watching him in warm-ups when he catches those balls one-handed. It's not like a one-handed catch where it's like you're pinning it to your hand as it's coming with momentum. him. He just yanks them out of the air. They're 17 or barely 18 year old kids. I just wonder comparing that to like your son who's 16. I mean, he's not confident getting in his car and driving to school. The confidence level for these kids has got to be like amazing. It's wild that you're 17 and

you expect to go start at Alabama. Yeah. And not be stressed about it and catch balls with one hand. I was watching the play of the game. I was watching him play high school football last night, the Alabama kid. It popped up on my TikTok. It was like his high. school recruiting and he was playing wide receiver and his games are on ESPN because he that team was really good and he was playing wide receiver and he's making all these plays just get in the ball and he makes 30 people miss he didn't score touchdown every play but people are missing every time but then he also played quarterback at a high level at a high high school not like a double a school where one player does it all but 17 but i felt like it was crazy he's got great teeth too

what seen his teeth no ron williams no yeah maybe i have i just haven't noticed them read they're like perfect man. He flosses and everything. I don't know. They look kind of fake. Mr. McMahon on Netflix. You're watching that. I've seen, huh? You're watching that, right? So I was about to say. I've seen five. Yeah, thanks for telling me that. Thanks for telling me that. I've seen him on my head. Yeah, I've seen five of the six, Mike. I've seen five of the six. I am not watching it with my wife, so it's harder to find. And I don't really watch it an hour time, like 30 minutes at a time. Yeah. It's usually I watch it. And I watch it on my phone. It's really good.

I really like wrestling, and now don't really watch as much of it now, but I love wrestling as a kid. Even as a young adult, I kept up with it, and I keep up with a little bit now. But I don't ever just watch it, I guess. Just clips, I guess, now. If somebody cuts a really good promo, it'll pop up on my algorithm. Where does it come on now?

So Netflix just signed a deal for next year that it's going to be on Netflix. But USA had it forever. Peacock, which owns USA, which is why my show was on USA, Peacock. but Mr. McMahon's really good. Yeah, the only thing that made me want to watch it was whenever Vince McMahon put out that statement, I didn't really have any interested until then. I was like, oh, I got to see what this is all about.

It's the story of Vince McMahon and the WWF slash WWE, and Vince McMahon puts out a statement, it goes, hey, this is not accurate. They shot this with intentions, and there's a character, Mr. McMahon, and there's me, and they really leaned on the Mr. McMahon. Like, I tell you, I've been through five, and there are some stuff on it that pain him is not that great.

But I think he jumped the gun on telling people how bad it makes him look. I haven't seen six yet. I don't know if they really get heavily into the allegations that have surfaced in the past year. Yeah, that's about the last episode. But I don't think through five episodes that I would be like, he's a real scumbag. Through five episodes, I'd be like, probably not somebody I want to be friends with and did everything. Like, would cut people for his business. but there are a lot of really successful people

that rip people's hearts out for business. It's really just what I would imagine the life of a billionaire being. Like that's it. Like he's hardcore a business. Hardcore. And that is what's going to happen. And had to make a lot of tough decisions,

a lot of integrityless decisions, but decisions that had to be made if the company was going to be massive. But also they talked about his failures, like XFL and how embarrassing that was. Oh, yeah. The first time, one season done. The ratings dropped like 75%.

It was, The one XFL game was the lowest rated network show in the history of network television. Ever. When him and Bob Costas were about to... I don't remember that interview. I don't either. I'd not even seen it on, like, because I get a lot of wrestling on my TikTok, old school wrestling. I had never seen that pop up, Mike, it's like something that, hey, remember this?

Yeah, the fact that he would do interviews during the midst of some of this stuff, it's like, why are you doing this? Bob Costas is sitting across from him. This is probably, I don't know, 90, 2000 maybe? Probably the 2000, early 2000s. Yeah, the quality of television, it's a couple of generations ago. Okay, okay. But Bob Costas is doing an interview show with him, and they're just sitting one-on-one.

And Bob Costas was like, hey, so something, something, something. And Bob Costa says, because he's also today as part of the documentary. And so Bob Costas will come in and be like, yeah, I thought, da-da, through the whole series. And Bob Costa said, well, I told him before I went on, hey, I'm going to ask him tough questions. Because the XFL had really started to fail. And Vince was like, yeah, sure. so they go out and Vince McMahon looks like he's going to beat the crap out of Bob Costas

in a formal interview like he's leaning into him he's big too right yeah big as in like muscular I mean he's probably like 6-2 or something in real life right yeah but he's jacked though the steroids thing is super interesting so what happens with Bob Costas well he doesn't punch him but the interview is really weird

because he's right in his face and Bob Costas feels like Vince McMahon's not going to hit him so he's just like let's like let's but Vince McMahon looks like he's going to rip his head off. And this is not like a work. It's not a W.W.E. It's a real, real life.

But you can see how aggressive he gets. It almost seems like all of his life is WWE, though. Like anything he does, he's showing up. Like, I'm performing right now. This is all going back to my brand. What would you rate the series? I get like a four out of five. I think if you're not a wrestling fan,

like my wife, not into it whatsoever. She didn't like the series? No. I think, and then I think Netflix always, like you said, they had an agenda. They were going to pick certain parts of his life. They wanted to focus on to sensationalize it. So I feel like they focused on some things way too hard

that it didn't really paint him as a whole. I feel like they gave him a little benefit of the doubt at times, talking about where he came from. He was an abused kid, didn't know his real dad, Metzumman Sr. until he got older. He comes from, I mean, he was very poor. And so he had the attitude of, I will just kill everything until I get to where I'm not poor

and then I'm going to meet. Like, he has that. And I don't have it like he does. were yet anyway. Still time. But I definitely, maybe I just related on that level. It was like,

I would, I would have worked every second of every day. I've made some tough decisions. And if you make a lot of decisions on a big level, some people are just going to think you're a dick because you're having to make tough decisions. And some people are going to think you're a saint. And sometimes that's going to switch.

And there were times where people would sue him, he'd bring them back in because it's like, this is good for business. there were times where like him and Hulk Hogan got into it bad because it's a storyline like you said Like in real life they got into a bad Yes

Hulk left Went to WCW Because he was like I'm going to do movies And ended up going to WCW But then Hulk comes back And he's like brings him back To fight the Rock in WrestleMania And he's like

I won't let personal decisions Get in the way of business It's I give it a four and a half Out of five I'm not finished Incomplete Because one more episode But I've really

I've looked forward to watching it But yeah not somebody that I think I'd want to be friends with. Yeah, the interesting part to me was whenever he kind of blurred the lines of the Mr. McMahon character and what was going on in his real life. Like using it to make out with chicks on TV? It's like, is he doing that because that's what he would do? Like, hey, I could actually turn this into Conte.

It's like, oh, it's all just for the show. Or like, that's what he would be doing behind closed doors anyway. And he has a lot of really bad allegations against him now. But I would say whenever I first started to have some success, and Eddie and I were doing Raging Idiots. And I paid for a music video. And I got a model to make out with me on, in the music video,

I was blurring the lines. Interesting. I mean, that happened. It did happen. I was like, no, we need to really, like, meet in the middle and, like, it's a makeout scene.

It's Mr. Bones and Bobby, you know? Two different people. But when you make a documentary like that, though, like, don't you know that there's a really good chance of them spinning it in different ways that you may not agree with? Well, so Vince didn't make it. Bill Simmons is one of the executive producer of it.

So they're going to make it regardless So it's up to Vince if he wants to be a part of it Now him being a part of it can actually shift a little bit of it Does that mean be interviewed on it or be an executive producer? No, he's not executive producer But he has Creatively I only get any say No, and they bring in people who don't like him

And are saying things like against him So and he's in every episode more than anybody else Talking I really liked it, you liked it Yeah I mean his statement could also be trying to bring attention to it because he's all about showmanship. Let me put out this statement and get people interested in it. I wouldn't have thought that but over and over again he's like,

it doesn't matter what happens to me personally. All he does in his life is create storylines, what is good for business? Me putting out the statement could be good for business. That's great. If I'm taking off all the terrible allegations, the recent ones, and I'm removing all of that, like brilliant, dude. Brilliant through necessity. Oh, brilliant business mind, right?

That's what you're saying, not person. But I'm saying cut all the allegations, even person, to have these thoughts. Yeah, brilliant guy. And also brilliant, and then he would try things and fail, and it was just like on to the next. I mean, even how he started it of like going out and taking top talent from other regions where it wasn't a national thing yet.

He's just like, oh, first one to do it. Here's the number one wrestler here in this region. I'm going to pay them money, bring them over to my thing. And then. Embraced cable. Yeah. When that wasn't a thing. So, yeah, terrible dude, I think.

But you don't have to be one or the other. Because it sounds like, especially like, the last ones were like he was like had it was like wacking off on a girl's hair or something like people the allegations something I don't remember the allegation exactly or like pooping on her head or something it was bad yeah I got weird like the culture

yeah like read that that's a bad culture um according to what I've read no no that's attitude era I'm talking about this is some people suing them like women's suing him um

the steroids thing like all those people that died Yeah, I never really thought about it. And as I was watching it, I realized what they said that, me as a kid watching that, I just thought that was part of the storyline, though, like, people dying. They were characters to me. I was like, oh, so-and-so died. But you think about, like, those are real people dying.

And nobody really questioned it because you were so, like, in the world of wrestling that, like, oh, Eddie Guerrero died. Like, that's part of the storyline. Ryan Pillman died. Who's bringing in next? They talk about Owen Hart. They do it, like, a full 15 minutes on it. Yeah.

where Owen Hart, Brett Hart's brother, was the Blue Meanie. I remember the Blue Meany. And so he was this character with the mask. He was coming out of the rafters on a cable and fell into the ring, died. I remember that. During a pay-per-view.

And it happened when the lights were down, which I didn't know. I thought everybody in the arena had seen it. Yeah, no one saw it. Yeah, nobody saw it because the lights were down. And there's blood in the ring. And they do the pay-per-view. And Vince is like, keep going with the show.

show. Because nobody in the crowd saw it. And Vince goes, if it were me that happened to, I'd want them to finish the show if nobody in the crowd saw it. And you see the, like, they go to Jeff Jarrett, and he's cutting a promo, and he's like yelling at whoever he's going to fight, but he's like crying. And again, there's blood in the ring, and they finish out the mat, the, yeah, is wild. I remember it happening. I remember that. And then the opposite thing happened with Chris Chris Benoit, that happens, and then they do a big tribute to him. Do they talk about that in six? Yeah.

Because I just know the story. He murdered his wife and kids and himself. And instead they stop with the show and then do this big tribute to him. And then the news comes out after they already did that. Over like those are two terrible decisions, but I'm going to say over the course of 40 years or whatever it is, there's going to be a lot of decisions that you look back out and go, that's a terrible thing.

The Owen Hart thing, though, I think. And I don't like to put myself in somebody else's shoes. I think I would have called the show. Oh, definitely. Was he dead on the spot? Yes. And they knew that? So the people came out and they,

They tried to do life-saving efforts. They rolled them back. And then during the show, Jim Ross was like, we have to announce it was him and Jerry Lawler that Owen Hart has died. And it's like, this is not a work. This is not a storyline. And they continued on with the show.

Yeah, I don't know. I don't like the second guess, folks. I feel like I've got to stop the show. He didn't want to disappoint the fans in the crowd already. That's wild. I know. I think they would understand. But yeah.

They didn't tell the crowd. They didn't know. They didn't know. No, no. I'm saying after the fact, like, This is why we're canceling. Yeah, I think, sure. But again, they did not know.

To them, it was just something that happened. And maybe a storyline. So, and then Brett, and it turns out it wasn't WWF's fault, WWE's fault. The whole thing. Yeah, it was the company that made the harness. Yeah, effective. Later got sued because that's what broke.

And so the Hart family sued, like Owen's wife sued WWE. WVE is like We've had so many investigations It's the harness people And then Brett Hart came out And it was like you know For a long time I thought maybe they were trying to get at me And they might kill my brother

Because Brett Hart left him It was very controversial It was the screw job Montraud Crop. Yeah Anyway, it's good You know the size of Hulk Hogan I'm always amazed by that

I didn't know he was that big Not that he's just muscular Because we can see that But he's like 6-7 in that muscular You remember Rocky man? Rocky 3? Yeah, it's 3 right? They talk about it.

He's in it. Rockies, I mean, they talk about him being Thunderlips. Yeah. That was his name in the movie. Yeah. So he did that in Rocky. So, yeah, we spent a lot of time on this,

but I think we probably have a lot of wrestling fans or used to be wrestling fans. Yeah. I give it four and a half out of five, although I'm still incomplete. Mike gives it four. You watch it, Casey? Not yet.

Eddie? No. No, not at all. Reed? I haven't seen yet. Reed? Do you have Netflix? Yeah, I got Netflix.

I'm making sure. Yeah, me? I like wrestling. Now or then? Uh, nah, I don't really keep up with it now, but back in the day I did, like Ray Mysterio, all those guys. That's who you go to first, Raid Mysterio. Yeah. Like, I remember Ray Mysterio, and his son, I think, wrestles now.

Mm-hmm. The 619, wouldn't that his finisher? Yeah. Yeah. Reed and I went to SummerSlam a couple summers ago. Oh, I forgot about that. We saw Logan Paul. Yeah, that was fun.

I saw Logan Paul interviewing Undertaker. Or the other Paul. It's got to be Logan, right? Because Logan's a wrestler. Probably Logan, yeah. Who has the podcast? I think they both do, but Logan's is bigger. Impulsive?

I don't know. I was watching clips. Everything I watches clips now on TikTok. Which is the one with the bell? The guy's got the belly now. He's the boxer. He's the one fighting Mike Tyson. Is that a real belly? So I have a theory. That is the other Paul. Jake Paul, right? Jake Paul's fighting Mike Tyson. Okay. Now remember, these were just two YouTube kids, by the way, that have been so smart.

They've done the Vince McMahon and just marketed the crap out of themselves in every way. Yeah. It's wild. My theory of what that belly is he got... Because you could do that in three weeks and just be super bloated and stick it out. Oh, you think it's real. Hold on. Because I think you could stick it out, right? Everybody can do that thing now where you stick your belly out.

Yeah. So I think he got it extremely bloated, did that. I have two theories. But it was before, and they recorded it these bits to play getting ready for the fight. So now he's all in super great shape. But this is something they did before, way pre, pre, pre. That's number one. Number two, he's got a lot of money.

That could be a fake belly. because his face is not fat and like his pecks are still shredded. Yeah, the pecks look good and then the belly just hangs over. So I think it could be a prosthetic belly, but I think mostly they probably shot it ahead of all of it. Do you see the guy, and I forget what it's called, Mike, maybe you can help me on this.

If you just eat on TikTok and people watch you eat, Nick avocado. What's the term for that? Muckbang. Mug bang. Okay, you two both know. I knew you two weirdos would know that. Oh, yeah.

Muckbang, it's when you just watch people eat. And so this dude, who was 400 plus pounds, I'm assuming. Probably 450 even. So he's a big muckbanger. And so he put up his videos every week, every week, every week. What he did, which was amazing. And again, shout out to this dude.

He recorded a ton of content ahead of time, enough for two years. Muckbang, muckbang, shooting it every night so he could have videos still. But while this is all being put up on feeds for two years, he's losing weight. All of a sudden, one day pops up. I'm skinny now. I was like, shout out. People got mad at him. Yeah, I read that.

But people that get mad at somebody. You're losers if you get mad at him for that. First of all, you're a loser for caring about all he does. And he eventually came out. And he said this is what I did. Yes. Oh, yeah, he didn't act like he just, like, cut it all off of him. Mike, can you rationalize why people were getting mad at him?

I mean, I think he's just like a really polarizing dude. And I think it was just him messing with people, but also, like, pointing the finger back at other people. Like, look, you're so consumed with, like, my weight. and you've been watching me, and I proved you wrong. I thought it was hilarious. I don't muck bang a lot. Yeah, what does that even mean?

Where does that come from? Yeah, I know. I don't know. I think it's a Japanese word. Oh, okay. But it's, yeah, people will go to, like, Taco Bell, buy every single menu item and then eat it on camera. I would watch them from time and time just because, like,

me watching that stuff makes me feel like I'm consuming it without eating it, and it's just kind of interesting to watch. Oh, I feel like when I watch stuff like that, I want to eat it. It makes me want to eat it. Oh, really? So different than Mike, where Mike, or Mike watches it can be like, oh, I feel like I just kind of did it. Me, it's like, oh, I must do it now.

Yeah, whenever I was first losing weight, when I was losing 100 pounds, I would get my healthy food that are on a YouTube video, somebody eating like KFC for an hour. And I'm like, okay, I feel like I'm eating that too, when I'm eating broccoli. Whoa. Tricking your mind. Caitlin Clark, remember you'll be it?

It's been a record, and I'll tell you it's something I just did. And then we'll get to our games and stuff. But because this is coming on Tuesday, we won't spend a lot of time talking about the last weekend. That's been regurgens. agitated at much of times, but we will do our personal ones. I saw the story on Caitlin Clark member bill. It's been a record-setting year for Caitlin Clark both on and off the basketball court

while setting records for rookie assists. And not only that, total assists. I think she's the number one assist leader in rookies or not. And rookie three-pointers, and I think she's top three all-time, maybe two. Maybe I think she's two all-time in WMBA three-pointers. All-time rookie, number two all-time and three-pointers. Her rookie car was sold for $84,000, which we talked about. which is funny though.

Her WMBA salary is only $76,000. Although she didn't get the money for that rookie card. Somebody had it. But it's been killing. And I told you guys, if you remember, that I got,

and I was bidding on a Caitlin Clark game one of her career that they lost. They were playing the Connecticut son. And it's the ticket graded by PSA at 10 with an autograph on it. And I'm kind of into the ticket collectibles, too.

Like I just got a Peyton Manning Super Bowl ticket signed Peyton Manning. Super Bowl, whatever, MVP, and it's great at 10. So I like tickets and have some pretty cool ones, but I missed out on the auction, meaning I bid on it. It got up to $11,000. I think it's what it went off at.

And I didn't win it because I wasn't, I didn't want to pay that much money. I think I got to like eight. And then I went to bed. And the guy kept resetting the bidding because there's only two of us. And every time you bid again, it starts it over at 30 minutes and extended bidding.

So he kept dicking with me where I'd get down to one second. I'm like, I won. Boom, he bet again. Just try to wear me out. Yeah. So I didn't win. And I was always like, dang, I wish I would have won that.

And so one other one exists as of now. And so I saw it and I got on Golden. Oh, man, I'm logged out of my app. And so same thing. The seats were a little better, this ticket. But same thing, great. Does that matter? Your password is expired and must be reset.

Enter verification code. You know what's a good thing about these phones now? They'll put the verification code in like that bottom thing now. Yeah, and it's already there. You just click it. You just click it. Yeah, that's cool. Sometimes it'll read in your emails too if you get an email.

Do you ever do that? Yeah. That's pretty cool. Because text, I am like, oh, it's in my text. But it's like, don't get in my text everybody in government. But then I'm like, okay, you can, Golden or whomever. So I saw it all that way come up. And it was on a Saturday night.

And since I'm a loser, why not? So I got on and I bid and let me put my code in here. Boom. Password. I got to change my password back up. I want to choose my own password. I'm going to do Eddie. That's your password?

Nice. That's all my passwords do. Okay. I'm in. I've updated my password. Boom. I'm logging in back into Golden where I love to do these auction sites. Yes.

I'm back in. Save password. And so I'm in. on Saturday night, I get in the bidding. Purchases. There's nothing here. Can you imagine? That's terrible. I got a Caitlin Clark ticket is the whole thing. So you did get it. And I got it for about $7,000 less than the second. Oh, you do. That's awesome. Very good. Yeah. And you have to stay up late. I think I spent like $4,500 on this one, which is a lot of money. But I was ready for the other one. I also bought a Caitlin Clark, Angel Reese, Dule signed.

both 10 graded auto 9.5 card. Oh, that's cool. Also got that. And they're going on eBay for like $6,000. And I got this at like $4,200. Okay. And I don't plan to flip it right now. I got one more thing.

Oh, that picture I showed you. What was it? What was it? The painting. Oh, that's a cool painting. I think, I don't know why I can't log into this. So, Mike, remember? Did you go to New York with us?

Mike did not. No. That's why I felt weird asking you. When we went to New York, there was a dude, you know the dude that did the paintings? I was wondering, you got one of those? No, but it's, I just was, since then, he would, like, paint athletes and athletes would sign him. I was interested in, like, that world. And so I went and bought, like, a Jaden Reed, is a Packer, wide receiver?

There's Watson, one of those two. I think it's Christian Watson. And it was only like $250. It's like four feet tall, three feet wide. It's a Christian Watson painting that he signed. And I really thought I wouldn't get it because I was like, surely someone's going to pay more than that for that big painting. I got it. That's awesome.

Those are three things I got. So I have nowhere to put this stuff. I'd say you paid $200,000 for one of those things. No, that was Michael, like Michael Jordan. Yeah, the Kobe ones. I wonder why I can't, I don't see the stuff that I bought. All right, let's take one more break, and we'll come back. The 2026 NFL draft is here, and the NFL Daily podcast has it covered from all angles.

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I'm John Green. You may know me as the author of The Fultonar Stars, and now I guess also is the co-host of the Away End, a brand new world soccer podcast. I'm Daniel Alarcon, a writer and journalist, and John and I have known each other since we were kids. My first World Cup was Mexico 86. I was nine years old. I watched every game, and I fell in love. On our new podcast, The Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup. For us, soccer, football, is a story we've shared for over 30 years since Daniel was the star player on our high school soccer team. Very debatable.

And I was there most loyal and sometimes only. fan. I love this game. I love its history, its hope, its heartbreak, and above all, its beauty. Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the most important. Listen to the away end with Daniel Alarcon and John Green on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, we didn't get a chance to cry. And Casey, I was thinking about you, because we had terrible, terrible weekends. Arkansas lost in the second half of the game Texas A&M-Bed is miserable

I hate it I hate everything Everything sucks And we're kind of done now Like we can win some games I guess But we're probably not going to With our schedule coming up Which we have Tennessee We have Ole Miss

There's only a few games where I feel like Oh we have a good shot Now we may surprise one of these teams And I hope we do And I'll be rooting as hard as I possibly can But we blew another game That could have set us up Had we won this one

I was miserable but now I'm just to the point of acceptance that I'm going to be miserable. So I wasn't affected as much because the expectation was there and that's even worse. So I'm back to that. Oh, yeah.

I'm back to that. And so Arkansas lost and it was terrible and I hate it. And I'm not going to the Tennessee game. I was going to. Is that in Knoxville? No, it's in Fayetteville. And game day was going to come.

And we were already working on the guest picker part of it or being a part of the broadcast for me. But? They lost. They're not coming. But you don't want to go to the game anyway? No. I don't want to say, if I only have a certain amount of free weekends

and I've spent on my money on Can't La Clark tickets. So I have to choose. If they had won, that would have been the one. I'd have gone to that one. I still probably want to go to Texas. But it makes me sick. And so the Jets lost on a field goal. Yeah.

They didn't score. They got beat by Bo Nix. He's my hero, Bo Nix. Cortland Sutton had more yards than Bo Nix. And they won the game. game. Bo Nix was like negative passing for... Negative passing in the third court.

He had negative seven yards and the Jets. The Jets had a chance to win it though. Greg the leg had a chance to win it. Dude, it was horrible. I mean, at Breece Hall had like the worst game of his career. He looked lost. He was like he didn't pick up that blitz on that one fourth downplay. It was raining.

But also it rained for both teams, to be fair. But I'm saying like as far as like no offensive output, you know, no outpouring of points or yards, it was like a weird, disgusting rain. But you think Rogers. Green Bay. I don't know. I mean, I think he's used to playing in the elements, more so than Zach Wilson. They should have won. I'm not saying they shouldn't have won, but I'm saying the low offensive numbers, I get, but they should have had more points than the frigging Broncos. Nine points. Yeah. When they're lining the kick up, I got to know if you're like me and you expect it to. Guaranteed miss. I already knew that. You already knew it was happening. Yeah. I had money on it. I was like, for sure, we're going to. Is it?

No. Casey and I are the same with them. Yeah, we're sympathetic going that. We just expect to lose because. We've got our hearts broken so many times. And why we keep going back and allowing our hearts to be put back together, I'll never know. Because we love it. And then Robert Sal was just there clapping. Good job, guys. Good job, guys.

You know, he was like, maybe the cadence. Yeah, right. The thing that Aaron Rogers is famous for, he shouldn't do that anymore because the players are too, you know what, to comprehend. And I like what Aaron Rogers said. And I don't know, you always like what Aaron Rogers said. I think he could come off. I was interesting. Poor at times.

But Aaron Rogers is like, what if we just hold him a count? And I was like, exactly. 13 penalties on the game, too. 15 penalties, 13 accepted. Him and Salah don't like each other. No. You can now tell. I mean, he's a clown, though, Salah.

All he does is literally just clap. He just claps everyone and, you know, just lets everyone just, you know, illegal formation. Garrett Wilson doesn't know where he's supposed to be. Rogers does not like Garrett Wilson. No. It's, yeah. Back to reality. I would see them fighting in training camp, like the little side videos with, like, at it with each other.

Maybe not fighting. having a stern word with helmet's off. Bicker. He doesn't like him. And the Raiders are really looking forward to trading Devante Adams. I don't think he's going to play again. Just from listening to the stuff like I was watching a Raiders guy in TikTok, it was like one of their beat writers.

He's like, I don't think he plays again and he's probably healthy because they don't want him to get hurt because they can't trade him. Right. But I mean, we don't even need another Y receiver I feel like. I feel like we need line help. I mean, there's just so many other parts to this team that are broken. Would you trade the non-

showing Hassan Reddick? Yeah, if we can somehow get that. Well, you could. You'd try for Devante Adams. Would you make that trade? I mean, I would, but would the Raiders do that to then have to deal with that. I mean, I guess they're also a train wreck. But they'll only do it if they're planning to pay him.

Right, like that's the issue with New York is the money. So the Raiders would only do that because they're seeing he's holding out if they'd be willing to also pay the contract. I mean, I'd be thrilled if that happened, but I don't know. We'll see. I mean, it's going to be a long, long weekend here in London coming up. It's going to be rough. Playing the Vikings, right?

Yep. Undefeated Vikings, Sam Darnold. That's what they do. Arkansas will probably beat Tennessee. Yeah, you know what, maybe. The Jets will probably beat the Vikings, and we'll be like, oh, my God. That'll be riding high and then Monday night against the bills the following week will get smacked. Kick us in the balls, three more weeks.

Right. Then we give you about Lake Travis High School the next week. Yeah. They're a good team, though. Lake Travis is. Eddie, you can do the Cowboys? I mean, the Cowboys were fine. I mean, they won by five points.

I mean, it was like it wasn't much of a game. We still look bad. I still don't really know what's going. on over there. It's just, they just look out of whack. Our defense is bad and the offense doesn't know how to just, there's something going on between CD and DAC. Maybe they just haven't practiced enough. I don't know what it is, but the magic of the Cowboys that we've had in years past is not there. And slowly, I look at the season being like, this is just, I don't even know we'll make the playoffs this year. Especially with the commander. You're in a week division. Hey, the NFC,

the NFC is now a weak division though. It is. Eagles kind of suck. Yeah. Giants. So the commanders are still the commanders, though, right? Like, that's what I was saying to Wentworth earlier. It was like, I know they're good. They do have a rookie quarterback, but they're still the commanders. I can't really see them winning a lot just because of what they've taught us through history. Yeah. So the Cowboys could win the division.

And then we're in the playoffs again. But that's all it takes. To just lose one game and then you'd done. But this would be when you win. Like when you shouldn't, that comes through and plays his guts out when they're expected to lose. Yeah, I mean, and that's the NFL too, right? Right? Like just building parlayes for the NFL now. It's like, I look at like, all right, who hasn't won a game in two weeks?

Bet them to win. Unless it's Jacksonville. I did that with the Titans on Monday night football. You did? Yeah. I just had a feeling. They bench Levice last night, huh? I saw that.

No, they said he was hurt. He's hurt. Yeah, right, his shoulder. And then Mason Rudolph went in and played? Yeah, and they ended up, I fell asleep. They ended up winning, right? Yes, they won. They won by a lot.

Like 30, actually, 30 to six. Oh, I fell asleep way before that. The dolphins couldn't do anything. I fell asleep. I didn't even look at the score this morning because I just, I figured they want, yeah, Dolphins can do anything. It was frustrating from what I saw. So I turned it off.

It was ugly. I turned it off the first quarter because I was like, I have nobody playing in this game. You didn't miss much, really. It was ugly. I turned off the Georgia Alabama game at 23-0 or whatever. I think everyone did, right? After halftime, you're like, why am I going to watch the rest of this game? I went and made a big deal about it to my wife like, hey, I just want to spend time with you.

It really, the game was a blowout. I was like, let's just watch a show or something, like hang out. You're so dumb. And then, like, I go to the bathroom, I'm flipping through Instagram, and I see the Georgia's sideline erupting on a play, and I'm like, what year is this? What game is this from? I'm like, oh, my God.

I flip over, Georgia's taking the lead. Oh, yeah. Alabama ends up winning, that 17-year-old receiver. But crazy, yeah. What a game. What a game. The two coaches, because if Alabama wins a national championship, it's not about Nick Sabin anymore.

No. Because Sabin didn't win the last couple years he was there. Right. Although Sabin did leave him with a professional. pretty good team, right? Sure. Yeah. But again, he's not going to come if it's not a good team.

It's not like, it's a charity. Like, he had something going on at Washington. Sure. It was really good. Yeah. So he didn't need, the board didn't need to come. He wins everywhere. It's like Signetti or whatever.

At Indiana, that's the next dude up. Like, whichever major program goes, if it's Ohio State, if Ryan Day is out, like that's a dude that's got balls so big. He'll take any big program that has expectations and just go, give him to me. I will win. the clip of him saying Google me reminds me of Toby Keith when he said that to us Google me

he's like do I win Google me he wins everywhere and Indiana is undefeated That's badass yeah He was Nick Sabre's recruiting coordinator And maybe wide receivers coach On that staff whenever Kirby Smart was I think defensive coordinator

But everywhere he's been And it's wild to watch Indiana win It's cool I'm rooting for him He's got a little moxy about him Anyone that says Google me It's got some good confidence going on All right I'll say this

Aubrey is awesome Aubrey Best kicker in the NFL Brandon Aubrey Yes But him missing that kick It costs a lot of people money They didn't cover

They did not cover the spread He doesn't miss Well what did you get that game at Because most I didn't I didn't bet the game If you bet it pregame It was five Not five and a half

So I think people that kind of bet it Right when the game started It depends on where you're betting it because most people that I saw bet it at pre and there was a five and a half. Okay. Okay. Because, I mean, I pushed.

It's like, I didn't care if you made it or not, but man, yeah, I could see how people can be upset about that. You didn't care. But if you would have made it, you would have won,

so you did care. No, I push. A push with me is like, thank God, thank God. But you still care because you would have won. No, I get it, but whatever, we're on 10 bucks.

Like, a push. But a push to me is like, you only did one unit? Watch my hands. I got my unit back. But you cared because if it made it, It made it, you don't want your money. Yes, but it's not, it doesn't hurt so bad.

Okay, that, that I'll accept. Doesn't hurt so bad. A little bit, a little bit. That's money that you didn't win. Maybe not money you lost, the money you didn't win. Did you see Post Malone at the game with Brandon Aubrey? Signed his jersey? Was that last week?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was before this game? Yeah, the Giants game, yeah, yeah. The week before? Thursday, last Thursday. Oh, that's why it feels weird because it was so long ago. It feels like it was a long time ago. It was a week ago, basically. Okay, I think we're done here.

Thanks to Andrew. Whitworth coming on. That's pretty cool. Yeah, he's awesome. We should have Calvin Johnson on Thursday and Friday. Really? Whatever show we do later in the week, have Calvin Johnson lined up. Let's go.

Megatron. One of the greatest. Let's go. So hopefully that. Also, Hugh Freeze, you suck. Oh. Go ahead. Like, first of all,

Arkansas beats you at your house, which you should be embarrassed of. Secondly, you have a press conference. We play them nine more times. We beat them nine and nine more times. You don't say that. Even if you feel that way,

you don't say that. that. That's a dushy thing to say. Thirdly, you've got Oklahoma. Barrel run. And then you lose that game. You lose that game. You also lost a cow this year.

You're done, bro. You're done. Yeah. Hugh Freeze, you're garbage. I said it. Boom. Clip it. Nah, I don't know if you do that. I don't know if I'm ready for that. Clip it. I know if I'm ready for that.

All right. Thank you guys. you later on the week. Bye, buddy. Want to blow you? I'll blow you. All right, bye, man. Theme song written by Bobby Bones. That's me. And performed by Brandon Ray. Follow Brandon on social at Brandon Ray Music.

You can follow the show on Instagram at Bobby Bones Sports. Thanks to our crew. Co-host at Producer Eddie. Segment producer at Kickoff Kevin. Video producer at Reed Yarberry. an executive producer at Mike DeStro. But most importantly, thank you for listening. I'm Bobby Bones.

We'll talk to you next time here on 25 whistles. The 26 NFL draft is here and the NFL Daily podcast has it covered from all angles. Join me, Greg Rosenthal and Jordan Roderig after night one on Thursday. Nick Shook joins me night two Friday and then Sunday to recap everything that went down over the three days in Pittsburgh. We'll tell you who won the draft and which players were my. favorite picks. Listen to NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal on the free IHeart Radio app. Open the app, search NFL Daily, and listen now. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care which I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball

and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Cliver Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to the Clifford Show on the IHeard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. I'm Daniel Alarcon, and this is my friend. This is much more famous than I am.

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