The Bobby Bones Show - 25W: The Streak Comes to an End + Jay Glazer on Living in the 'Gray Area' & Helping Athletes Deal with Mental Health + Is Jalen Hurts the Early Frontrunner for MVP?

Episode Date: September 26, 2022

In a weekend where his 15-0 parlay streak came to an end and the Razorbacks lost a tough one vs Texas A&M, Bobby discusses which loss hurt most. FOX NFL Sunday's Jay Glazer joins Bobby to discuss his book and new podcast focused on mental health, and how he has helped some of the biggest names in sports deal with their own mental health; including how he helped Sean McVay make a Super Bowl run and Michael Strahan being his best friend through his own battle. Plus, Jalen Hurts has the Eagles undefeated and is off to a hot start - is he the MVP frontrunner through 3 weeks?  Download the DraftKings Sportsbook App today: https://dkng.co/bobbysports   If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/MI/NJ/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/NH), 888-789-7777/visit http://ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 1-877-770-STOP (7867) (LA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), call/text TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA).   21+ (18+ WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/LA/MI/NJ/ NY/PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. N/A in NH/OR/ON. New customers only. Valid 1 per new customer. Min. $5 deposit. Min $5 wager. $200 issued as eight (8) $25 free bets. Ends 9/19/22. See http://draftkings.com/sportsbook for details.       Follow the Show: @25Whistles   Follow the Crew: @MrBobbyBones @AdamHambrick @KickoffKevin @ProducerEddie @MikeDeestro @reidyarberrySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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because he was the only one that was able to watch the games for the most part. Go ahead. All right, let the show start. We were traveling all weekend. I watched some college games. And then I watched, I guess, probably every NFL game on the little cartoon screen on the ESPN app. Oh, that's tough, man.

It is tough. Watching the little ball go back and forth. Sometimes they're wrong. Oh, are they really? Yeah. It's like fumble. Then it's like, review. It's just weird stuff.

So you can't really keep up. So I was able to watch all the highlights, but still we're really leaning on Kevin because we're in Vegas all weekend. So, Jay Glazer coming up. Ricky Williams should be on the show on Friday. But let's warm it up first. Do you wear any jewelry? all. If so, what jewelry do you wear? All right, that's the warm-up question. Eddie, go on to you first. Very interesting. I don't wear jewelry. The only thing I have is my

wedding ring. The original wedding ring I had, I lost playing golf. I put in my back pocket, played the round, and then when I ended the round, I reached back to get it, and it was gone. Dude, I went all over that golf course looking for that ring. Never found it. How long ago was that? Nine years ago? Wow. Nine years ago. So now I wear a rubber wedding ring. That's what I wear. Those are popular in it, right? Right now. It's only red one. I can find. I have a nice one because once my wife got hers, well, it's not too shabby, you know what I'm saying? I was like, I need to get me one that's awesome. So I bought one, it's got diamonds in it, all around the inside of it. And then I don't

wear it because it's just metal on your finger. It's weird. I like the rubber. I'd be nervous, too, no? I don't like to lose it. Well, I mean, I wasn't nervous until I lost it. Then you're just like, oh, crap, I lost my wedding ring. Like, that's a big deal. Yeah, I guess my more uncomfortable than nerves. I'll go, I wear a watch most days now. I've turned myself into watch guy in the last year and a half. Never wore a watch ever my life. And I just said, I'm gonna be a watch guy. That's gonna be one thing I do that's mature. And so I wear a watch five, six days a week. Then I wear this and I wish I was cool enough to pull off other stuff, but I'm not. Like necklaces. That'd be cool. Yeah, yeah. I was wearing a suit this weekend, which is a white t-shirt.

And I thought it'd be cool if I had like a necklace. Or a chain. I should say chain. A chain, right, right, right. Eddie's like Tibo. It's like you wear a tiara. Now, necklace sounds kind of- A chain is a necklace, bon. Yeah, but necklace sounds kind of like a woman wears a necklace, right? I agree. You got to say chain. Guys, come on. That sounds cooler.

Can we please move on? Mike, any jewelry? Same as you guys. I wear the rubber wedding ring. That's it. I used to wear the real one and I lost it in a parking lot. I was able to find it. But ever since then,

keep with the rubber one. I feel like Kevin's the only one cool enough. I don't know if you wear jewelry or not, but I feel like you're the only cool one here. Like you could wear jewelry if you wanted to. See, I'm like you, though. So I wear the watch. I haven't always probably last four or five years.

But I want a necklace too. I've been thinking about. Or a chain. Sorry, a chain. See, he's a necklace though. You got it. You got in my head. You corrupted head.

Okay. But I've been thinking about getting a chain for a while now, but I just, it's one of those, it's one of those, you just got to do it, I guess. Ryan Hurd got me a chain once. It was like,

this, you should wear this. You still have it? Somewhere. Start wearing it, bro? I don't want to. I'm good. Are you done? You're over that?

I wish I could pull it off, but if I do wear it once in a while, it just looks weird. But I'd only wear it over like a solid colored shirt. I wouldn't just wear it to wear it. You see, you already think of way too much about it. I thought about it. Has anybody, like, did they ever wear earrings?

Like, did you ever wear earrings or, like, ear pierce? Why are you asking? I don't know. You know I never have. It's just weird to me when you see someone and you're like, look at their ear and like, is your ear pierce? Like, yeah, I used to have earrings in high school. I wanted to, my parents would let me. I wanted to get my lip pierce too.

Well, Mike, you were in a punk band, so that would have made sense. It had been on brand. For me, it would just give them another reason to beat me up. Oh, man. Kevin, you never had an earring? No, never an earring guy. All right, we're warm. over the tittle tittle tithel. It's time for the stupidest name ever. It's the tittle tattle with kickoff.

You got five. Go ahead. All right, Bobby. We're going to kick it right out with your Saturday. I knew where we were going. I'm sorry. You got to do it first. You got to get out of the way. Which loss was worse for you? The parlay or Arkansas. Arkansas, by far. A little bit, not mostly. I don't want you guys to think. I'm happy. It's over because I would have loved to run the streak forever. But there's pressure off of me. now that I can now suggest more games to bet. I then just was like, I'm only doing the parlay because I don't want to miss any of the stupid bets.

So I hit one of the two in the parlay, which is a loss. When I hit that first one, though, I know. I was like, Baylor? I thought you'd win. I didn't know you to whoop. And then I got to Oklahoma. They were never even. They never had a chance.

I watched that game. We were, you know, the Arkansas game was on one TV in the hotel room. The Oklahoma game was on the other because of my wife's school, and they never had it. it wasn't even where the Arkansas game Texas A&M is not a good football team had we now made an unforced dumb errors we would have won that game I'm not that guy usually

who blames it on the ref or who says oh we had it but they just aren't that good and we played right into them that fumble was extending it from the four it had been a great play if he'd have made it maybe a Heisman shot but he didn't it was way early I mean we were thrashing him running the ball that field goal if they wouldn't have been in an NFL stadium, that'd have been good.

The goalposts are taller in NFL stadiums. Oh, dude. I didn't realize that. They were in Jerry's world. So it was a tough loss. Hey, when did you start thinking that after they hit it? Or were you just like later in the day thinking about that dumb field goal? I saw someone tweet it.

Okay. Because that's, I mean, that's a good observation. I didn't know that. Someone tweeted it. Hey, if that had been in a college stadium. He would have gone right over. Everybody wants to move it out of Jerry's world anyway. And put it back in the individual stadiums, Arkansas, and,

Texas A&M because both of those fan groups are so good and loud. And in Jerry's World, it doesn't feel like a college atmosphere. It's not what that is. So I would rather lose every bet the history of my life than lose that game. It's a tough one. And then we have Alabama next week. So, yeah, I was not good. I'm still not good.

I woke up sad. I didn't have my lanyard on. My necklace didn't have it on. I forgot it. Can't find it, actually. We may never win another game the rest of it. This is not good. Yeah.

All right, next question. All right, which NFL team have the biggest win over the weekend? The Packers? dolphins, Jaguars, or the Colts. Let me mention them individually. Good win. The first one with the Packers. Good win for the Packers, because those are two teams that should be good.

And the Packers have struggled a bit. I only watched part of it. Again, I was getting home and trying to stream on a Southwest flight, which that internet goes like real good 30 seconds out for 45 minutes. That was me too. Yeah. So maybe Aaron Rogers has a. a receiver now in the rookie that they have, the DOBS.

I was only watching it and I've drafted it, but I don't want to say his name because I've never actually heard someone say it back. I just know who he is. We'll call him Dobbs. Yeah, I think they pronounce it Dobbs. Okay, close enough. I've never heard anyone say it. You didn't watch the game.

I've only read everything about him. Well, I drafted him in my fantasy league because I had read at how he was doing in camp, but if you don't hear someone say a word, you actually never know how to say it. So I like that win for them. It's a good win for the pack. but it wasn't the biggest. They're supposed to win. The second one was...

Dolphins. Huge for the dolphins. Huge win. Huge one for the dolphins. We'll come back to that one. The third one. Jaguars. Really good for the Jaguars.

Listen, Herbert was hurt. He wanted to finish the game. He stayed in to finish the game. It's really good for the Jaguars because, like I've said, they're on a trajectory. They may not. Nah, they may win the division. I don't know. That's going to be a...

But they're not in the basement anymore. Trevor Lawrence solid And so I like it for the Jaguars Still not the best win Although it was a really good win for them Next one Colts for the Chiefs

Yeah it's it's so okay Here's thing Miami great win over the Chiefs Battle of the Undefeated Although no one really thought Over the Bills Sorry over the bills No one really thought that Miami

Was gonna win that game Although I did bet them Plus three or four And they once they covered It was easy I bet every game I thought I should I took Miami, I took the Colts,

I took the Texans. That's good, that's good strategy in the NFL. Well, I just know I suck about NFL games. The Texans keep covering, not to get off subject here, but yeah, they keep covering. Yeah. I'm going to go with, it was the biggest game for the Colts. Ooh, really? Yeah, because they hadn't won a game,

and they beat the number one team, well, one of the top two teams in the AFC. So I think it was a huge win for them. And I think it lets them actually think they can continue this season and actually have a shot at making the playoffs in the division where everybody's kind of struggling to win games. So a huge game for Miami, of course, too. But Miami could have won and been fine. That had just been two and one.

That's a great place to be. Two and one for anybody. There's only one O and three team, which is the Raiders, which is crazy. Because it's supposed to be pretty good. I'm still rooting for them to be good. But I think the easy answer, regardless of what Eddie says, it's the Colts. Because they were down and out.

They lost this. it's bad. It's bad news all season, but they won against a really, really great team. Go ahead, Eddie. I'm calling Miami on this one because, I mean, going in, the Colts, the bills are so good,

so good on both sides of the field. Offense, Josh Allen's amazing. The Bill's defense is really good. And Tua, again, is like, they're just playing out of their mind. And the fact that they beat the bills, which I crowned the bills last week, as like they're the best team in football.

Now, I don't think you can say that about the bills because Miami just beat them. Sure you can. I don't know. I mean, I think there are two teams that are undefeated, the Eagles and the Dolphins. And I don't think the Dolphins are the best team in football. No. I'm not going to switch them and say the Dolphins are the best team.

But now you saw that the bills are human. They could be beat. And so I like that. I think that was huge for Miami. Dude, I didn't realize how much heat could affect a team from the north. That's why I said it was a hard place to play for a team like Buffalo. Like all those bills players were just like, oh man, I'm dying of heat exhaustion. Of anyone, really, that's not used to that.

Patriots are every year, they do the same thing. Like a September game from a cold weather team is brutal on them like a winter game is for a warm weather team. Even the Packers in Tampa were dying. Florida just killed all the visiting teams. I agree, it was a huge win for them. But I think the colds, it was the biggest win. They needed it for sure. Not only did they need a win, but they also beat, again, arguably the top one or two teams in the NFL or the A.A.

F. So what do you think, Kevin? Who do you think at the biggest win? I was with Eddie on the dolphins for a while there just because it's in the vision too and I think it gives them the confidence

that they need. But until they go up there and do that in Buffalo, it's kind of like, eh, did it really matter? Does it really count? Yeah, it matters. But I just think Miami could have lost

and been fine. The Colts, they'll... Yeah. I don't know that they could have been. Yeah. And I will say this about Miami too. I mean, Tua didn't play that. He had, I think,

180 or 190 passing yards, which isn't great. Josh Allen had 400. yards and they still managed to win the game. So I think that's huge for them, but going back to your point, Bobby, I think the Colts were so much more desperate for a win and needed a win, especially a game like that. So I'll go with the Colts as well. And there's a football up that guy's rectum still from the punt. They're trying to get it out today. That punt, what was crazy to me was the guy didn't back into the punter. He was there in that

same spot. The punter just punted it right in his butt hole. Wow. I mean, it was a crazy because I saw, and then I saw people tweeting about it, the butt punt. And then I thought probably the guy, like I got blocked into it. They're in the end zone. So it's shorter. More difficult to pump because you don't have the space. But it's like he caught it and just said, butthole.

Like he aimed for the butthole. It was right in it. It was crazy. Great, great games. Great games. All right. Sticking with the Dolphins game there, Tua, got knocked around pretty good there and showed he was showing some concussion signs.

But they bought him back in. He was stumbling. I mean, he couldn't walk, you can do anything. Do you think he should have been pulled from the game? I don't know what happened in Concussion Protocol. They're saying that it wasn't a head injury. It was a back, right? Yeah.

And listen, I guess if you're back hurt, you're like, I don't know. It looked like he'd gone, boom-pun, like little Tweety Bird circling around his head. And also, dirty play. Like, they threw the flag on it. The play was over, and then he just shoved Tua, and Tua falls back on his head. Yeah. I'm assuming they did the right thing because I don't think they want to further risk

not only injury but even the life of what they feel like could be their franchise quarterback. So I think probably, because the NFLPA is investigating it, we don't know the ruling of the investigation, I'm going to just go they did the right thing. Also, if two has got a concussion, he's not going to play well at all. So why would you want him in there? Especially as a quarterback.

And I wonder who's in charge of it. Are the dolphins in charge of making that call or is there a mutual NFL? Yeah. Yeah. Independent. So we'll see what happens in the investigation they're doing. The NFLPA announced it quickly. They're like, we're investigating.

And they may have announced it, though, as a reaction to people getting upset so they can even go, there's no concussion here. Yeah. So there are a couple reasons. Trying to cover it a little bit. Yeah. And not cover up. No, not cover up. But make sure that they tell people, hey, we're on top of it.

Don't worry. Yes. Yeah. So I got to try. trust they put him in and he was okay. All right, next up. After another big game and a three and no start, Jalen Hertz and the Philadelphia Eagles, is he a

early MVP candidate? I think he is now. I think he already was after two. He's been extremely dynamic. You need to be dynamic for 14 weeks probably to be an MVP and to win a bunch of games and they're winning games and he's three in.

So yes, you're going to have a lot of the same folks, Holmes. Lamar Jackson is my pick from the beginning. Dude, he looks good. He looked good again. He killed me yesterday. He went off yesterday. He was running him in.

He was tough. He's awesome. Lamar Jackson's awesome. Hertz is awesome. The cool thing about Hertz is they wanted to get him off the team. They were like, who's our quarterback? Who's our quarterback? Is the Jalen Hertz?

Yeah, sure he is. I think it's too early, though, to go. I mean, the favorite's still probably Josh Allen, because Buffalo's probably going to win more games than anybody else. And if he just plays on par with all the rest, but I'm a big fan of, put it out there, say, I'm going to do it, and make your money, and that's why I pick Lamar Jackson at the beginning.

So as long as it didn't get hurt, I like Lamar Jackson, but I think Josh Allen or Mahomes probably wins it again, all things being equal. Anything else? One more. Which upset was more surprising? Kansas State over Oklahoma, Texas Tech over Texas, or Middle Tennessee over Miami.

Oh, that was awesome. Yeah, let me roll through them real quick. The first one, Kansas State in Oklahoma, that's surprising, but Kansas State has their number for some reason. Yeah. I think even last year we were watching the game. We were driving back in the first quarter

me and my wife's dad and they were like, oh and in shocking news and he goes, oh no, don't be Oklahoma. They're like, Oklahoma's losing to Kansas State and he's like, dang. And so they ended up losing that game, I believe it was last year. And they never really were in it.

They got within a touchdown and I was like, come on, baby. And they did and they cost me about 15 games. Dang, dude. I'm 15 and 1 now. Terrible record. Sooners. The second one was

Texas Tech over Texas. Okay. Surprising-ish. But what do you expect Texas is? Texas did what Texas does? Texas. Yes. And I just put out a clip going, Texas, it's you!

Yeah, man. So, surprising. And then finally, it has to be MTSU. Amazing. Because of all those schools mentioned, the one that doesn't belong of the six is middle Tennessee state. That's it. Middle.

So, especially after Miami, the week before, was ranked 13, played Texas A day. Crazy. And I believe their quarterback, I don't have stats. I don't even know you were going to talk about this. Their quarterback had like seven completions for like 300 yards or something because he was throwing 90-yard bombs, like a couple big bomb plays that really made it up. So that was the surprising one.

All right, that's the tittle-tattle. Let's tittle-tattle it up. Close it up. I see on the agenda there is no coach interview. Nobody booked their coach. So let's check in with everybody and see if anyone's got any sort of update on booking their coach. or if you want to move off or whatever you need. Let's go to Mike D, who is our executive producer,

who's great at getting interviews? Yeah. Mike, what's the latest? Who do you have and how to go? I have Coach Wilcox from Cal. Last time I told you I'd heard nothing. And then after the show on Friday, I got an email back. And I'm waiting on a yes or no.

Who emailed you back? The communications director email me back. That's cool. We got a possible yes there. I don't know why they would say no. Yeah. Are you following to see if they're having a bad couple weeks? I'm not.

Looking at them. Huh? Yeah, I'm following him. So what I, I don't ever want to talk to a coach after a loss or try to get an interview after a loss. Because I know they don't want to talk about that. And so, I don't know what Cal's record is. Honestly, I haven't been following Cal. I don't know, man.

So it may be tough. Kevin, what do you have over there? For the update, I have Jimbo Fisher from A&M. And last time we talked, I had crickets. I canceled that one myself. He probably wants to talk right now. See it was in a great week. This week. So I had crickets last time we talked, and I've gotten more cricket since we've talked.

Nothing. So I need to, this week, I'm going to either follow up with, and maybe even give him a phone call, and just say, hey, Arkansas. I mean, Bobby's a big Arkansas fan. You guys have one, and we can come on and talk about it. Yeah, yeah. So we'll see. Eddie? I have Billy Napier of Florida.

And so here's the deal. So when I told you guys, I sent an email out, I got a response right away, said one of the communications people and said, oh, they're big fans of Bobby Bowie. They love the show. And absolutely, let me get you in touch with someone closer to coach. Well, the assistant to the coach finally emailed me. The assistant coach or the coach's assistant? No, no, no, coach is assistant. This is like a Dwight situation at the office.

So I got a second email and he said, oh, cool, man. I love it. This would be great. When do you want to do this? Is this something you want to do this season? And I thought that was really interesting. Why wouldn't I want to talk to him this season or like, not now? Zoom.

So I said, no, no, no, absolutely. it's next couple days like would be cool you know like I don't want to wait until next year 15 minutes let's get into it yeah so that's where we're at I replied with no ASAP would be great

and now you talk about like you know how the their last games affects their availability now they with a big loss from Tennessee I don't know we're going to get them dude I haven't heard anything back that's okay if you guys want to punt by Friday let me know it's not okay I want $500

yeah but you can punt it what's the role Mike you lose a point if you punt Yeah, you lose it. I'm already close, guys. I'm so close to getting this. I think I can get it. You can follow up at the follow-up. And be like,

yo. Hey, just checking in. All we're asking for is like a 15-minute Zoom, just to talk about Florida and I don't know, whatever you want to say. Yeah, I don't know. Bobby's a huge fan of coach from back when he was in Louisiana.

We're not even going to mention the last game, I'll tell him. I'm not going to mention that. Okay, deal. Okay, good. You can say that. All right. Let's say whatever you want. I did run into a guy,

a guy I know him well. He actually, facilitated this deal with draft kings. His name's Kevin Legrette, and I saw him in Las Vegas. And he goes, hey, man, let me give us some feedback on the show. And I'm like, I literally just eating shrimp. I don't know.

Don't want the feedback. Right now? Right now? He's like, yeah, yeah, let me give us a feedback. I'm like, okay, well, okay. And music's blaring. It's a boom, don't. And he goes, kick off Kevin. Great.

Love it. He goes, I don't know where you found that guy. Good job. So you got to. Love it. Thank you. He's got a great name, by the way. He then said,

Oh, great. Loved all the interviews. He was like, I don't like wrestling, so I can care about the Diamond Dallas-Paguan. And I was like, well, you didn't have to listen. That's a good thing about a podcast. You can skip right by it. If I didn't like wrestling, I wouldn't either, maybe. Although I got a couple messages from people who don't like wrestling,

who thought the interview itself was pretty interesting because his story is interesting. Oh, yeah, it is. But it was mostly for wrestling fans. There are probably a lot of wrestling fans who listen to this. And then he said, too many people have whistles. I said, we don't have 25 whistles. So we don't. If we had 26 people with the whistle,

whistles, then that'd be one too many. And we rarely blow it. Correct. Yeah. Like, I'd understand it. We're blowing it all day, but we're not blowing the whistle all day. You know what? I'm going to blow it on him.

Yeah. Yeah. Take that. But it's going well. Like, everybody's super pumped. The show's growing like crazy, which is, again, surprising to me. I thought it would do pretty good. I didn't know it was going to grow like it has.

It's been massive. We have two feeds that it's on. If you listen to on the Bobby Bone Show feed, that's super cool. and because we're only doing up until the Super Bowl, the 25 episodes, draft King actually paid to make sure that it was put in there as well so it would get listened to before we were done. Because the podcast, even if it's a great podcast, it takes a while to build, especially if you've got a new feed.

So it's been doing great there, and then lots of people are subscribing. It's just, I kind of can't believe how successful it's been. So we really appreciate that. And there's our updates on the coaches. Adam is not here, but I don't see any booking. of his coach, right? All right. Oh, wow.

It may be one to win 500 bucks. Maybe one. Okay, so there's that. You know, I mentioned earlier that my parlay didn't work out very well this week. I went one for two. That's just an L.

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and use the code Bobby Sports to get into the action right now and hop in. Hop into the parlays. That's what we did. Baylor plus 2. point five, they covered. They won.

OU, minus 12 and a half, obviously didn't, and they lost. They lost the game. They were 12.5.5 point favorite, and they lost the game. So I did not win. I am now 15-0-1 on the season. But we'll get them again. I'm probably leaning toward bed and everything on Ole Miss.

Kentucky is not a good team. They're ranked seven. They've beat nobody. They beat Florida after Florida beat Utah, but Florida has lost twice now. Yeah. Florida's not a good...

Kentucky's the biggest fraud number seven I've ever seen in my life. When do they get into the meter their schedule? Now they play Ole Miss this week. That's right. And they came out, I believe they... They entered the chat at a four-point dog

like it was Kentucky plus four. Now I think it's like Kentucky plus seven. Really? Mm-hmm. So if it gets any higher, I might not hop on that, but I just don't think Kentucky beats Ole Miss. And they're a fraud of a football team.

I think they're probably around 22 or... You've got some person. against those wildcats over here. I'm the same person that told you Kentucky was going to beat Florida. I sat here and said, they're going to win. There's no doubt about it. Kentucky's a fraud is the number seven. Only in, they haven't beat anybody.

There's no reason Kentucky to be ranked seven. They haven't beat anybody. So they're going to get whooped. Go ahead. Well, I was going to say, what about Clemson? Yeah, Clemson beat Wake Forest. They should have lost that game, though. They should have.

But they didn't. And they have North Carolina State. this week. Okay. Which is the top. I think they're 10 maybe this week. Yeah, they're good. Is Wake Forest good?

Yeah, except for they only beat Liberty about one point a week before. Yeah. But Liberty's also pretty good. Yeah. Hugh Freese also has that team ready to go. Yeah. So listeners that don't have a Draft King Sportsbook app account,

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Because I'll actually go over and maybe watch that. Maybe. interesting, I will not watch the Pro Bowl because I do not care. No. Does anyone care about the Pro Bowl? No, that's why they're changing it. Yeah, I mean, it's always been on in my house, but it's always been while we're just doing other things. I don't even put it on.

It's so lame. They don't even try. They don't try. And I get it. Why would you? And also, don't get, it's a dumb, you don't get hurt. Yes, exactly. In a Pro Bowl game?

So I like it. I like to flag football, athletes, you know, and then I like the Skills Challenge. Yeah. Because I would watch some of the skills stuff before the Pro Bowl. They would do some of that. Those were fun to see. Yeah, those are fun. and Brady's like pegging it.

Yeah. So that's one. And then two, Brett Farf, she's a bad dude. Oh, yeah, dude. I keep waiting for more

to come out before I, like, jump on it. But the fact, he wanted to take the welfare funds from Mississippi to build his alma mater, his daughter's college, volleyball team,

and he's a bad dude. And take the credit for it. Like, it's just bizarre. And know that it's probably illegal. No, he probably knew it's illegal. But there are, in the company, he,

everything's there. He's just a bad dude. He made so much money. Yeah, and that's my question. So he's got the money, right? Like, so if he wanted to do this legally and be really the person he wanted to look like, you know, a good, giving person, like, he could have done this all in his own, right? I don't know what the bank account says.

I mean, there's a lot of Rangler commercials. I would assume. Yeah. It just seems like a bad dude. Yeah, he's, yeah. Can anybody defend Brett Favre? No. He hasn't, I haven't heard it, he hasn't spoken on it or anything, right?

Nothing I've seen? Yeah, yeah. I don't know. I wouldn't have ever ever. He wouldn't say anything. His attorney. He probably won't. He doesn't even.

probably didn't care. He's in the stick somewhere in the woods just like, yeah. Oh, he cares. I mean, he's taking money from, again, this should go to people who are on welfare. The most vulnerable of person. He's taking money from that and wanting the credit and just trying to make the facility

better. And the politician involved in this. Bad news. Because the text said, hey, can we do that? Did you see the text? Yeah. He's like, hey, we have... Yeah, what's your question? Yeah, like, so is he in trouble, too? I mean, are they both jointly in trouble here? Yes. But it's all about Brett Fav

out in the news cycle because Brett Fav is the name we care about. But yes, right? I mean, he's in trouble too, I assume. Yeah. But today you can do something illegal in politics and nobody cares. Move on to the next thing.

I know. It just depends. It just depends which party runs the state if they kind of investigate if you did something good or bad. That's crazy, man. It's crazy. All right, let's go through the games here.

All right, here. And some of these, I'm just going to have nothing because I just watched them on the little screen. I've seen a bunch of highlights. but even then. Let's start Ravens 37 Patriots 26. Kick off Kevin. What'd you see?

Sadness. Yeah, I saw sadness. A lot of turnovers for the Patriots in the second half, especially the fourth quarter. A couple big ones. When we were coming back, you know, Mack threw a pick in the end zone and then Nelson Aguilar fumbled.

So we had our opportunities, the Patriots did. And then... We got to do it. Oh, yeah, where's the Homer? Oh, yeah, bias alert. Anytime you say we when you don't mention it. Yeah, go ahead. But I will say.

I mean, Lamar was the best player on the field. Are you nervous because Matt Jones went off the field? They say high ankle sprain now, but he limped off the field. Yeah, he looked like he was a lot of pain. It looked bad. Yeah, so a bad day or bad ending to that game got even worse with the last play of the game. Bears beat the Texans 2320.

The crazy thing is the bears are 2 in 1. Yeah. That's... They are. Yeah. I didn't even think about that. Did anyone watch that game? I watched it on the screen because I bet on it.

Yeah. That would be the only reason to watch it. I watched it. So it's crazy the bears are two and one and away they go. I mean, it's not like the Texans were supposed to... The Texans were an underdog in the game and they played at the level they were expected. But yeah, the Bears are two and one. Titans 24, Raiders, 22. They had a chance the end of the game to score the two-point conversion and tie it.

And it looked like... I just saw a clip on the end of it. It looked like it was thrown to them, but what happened? To Waller. I think it was a little bit high. Was it? Yeah. He dropped a couple, though, Waller, dude. Yeah, I just saw the clip, and it was from a crowd cell phone, so it didn't look as good to me.

And I was not a plane, friends. Raiders are 0-3. They're better than 0-3, I think, but now I'm starting to question myself. Yeah, I don't know. And how about the Titans getting to win there? That's a big win for them. They needed it. Heck yeah, they needed it.

And they were out big, and they almost blew it, so glad they held onto it, yeah. It felt almost Giants-esque. Yes. As it got closer, and I was watching on that little cartoon screen? I was like, oh, no, it's going to be like the Giants again. Colts 20, Chiefs 17. Kevin? It just seemed like the Chiefs, I don't know, when the opportunity came, obviously the kicking was with their backup kicker, and then they faked that one kick and I didn't work out very well. I didn't see that.

Okay, yeah, so they faked a field goal in the fourth quarter. They did. Yeah, totally faked it because they have their backup kicker in there and they ran out and tried to throw it and it was just an awful throw, awful. Everything was bad about it. I saw Mahomes and he was arguing with the OC. The enemy? Yeah. Yeah, what was that?

That was at the end of the half. Mahomes wanted to run some plays. I think they had like maybe 30 seconds left at the end of the half. And BN and Me just kind of ran the ball and said it was going to halftime and figured out in the second half and he wasn't happy about that. If you're Mahomes, you could probably just change playing. Right on the line, right?

Yeah. I think he was just being respectful on saying like, hey, like we should score if we have the opportunity. Coach is like, just that's what it is. And then when they're walking to the locker room, then head coach Andy Reid. Andy Reid is just like, hey, dude, just Calm down.

Yeah, and they asked him. It is what it is. It was like, it is. They were just talking. There was no fight there. Although it looked a little. It wasn't the Jets, he did. Yeah.

On the sideline, you know, the Jets and the line coach. They look like they're about the fight. That's crazy, man. That was a crazy one. But the Colts win, they needed it. And that's the division. They can still, they can still win that thing. I think if they lost, who had been tough.

But the Colts were the big win over the Chief. Dolphins beat the bills. We talked about that at 2119. what was the most glaring reason for victory and defeat? Kevin? Victory for the Dolphins was holding in the red zone. Bill's had their chances, and they ended up holding in the red zone,

and then for defeat, kind of the same thing. I mean, Josh Allen, I don't know if he saw the play where he could have scored at the end there, and he just short-armed a throw-to guy. I don't know who it was. In the corner of the end, on wide open, threw it right into the dirt. There were a few of those that he had.

I'm not sure where it came from. Yeah, I watched it. You flew back home already. I landed at 1155, enough time. to make all my bets and watch the games. How lucky for you. All right, next game. Vikings and Lions.

Vikings went 28-24. It did look like Vikings had good quarterback play, maybe because it was noon. Oh, that could be. Maybe that's why. I was really rooting for the Lions, honestly. What happened that game? I thought they were going to win.

They were up 10 in second half, and then out of nowhere, the Vikings came, surging Kurt Cousins, non-prime, Kurt Cousins. Noon Kurt. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I was really rooting for the lions there. Eagles whooped up on the commanders.

I did see some of this game, and I saw that Carson Witch just could not complete a pass. Yeah. It was difficult all the way around. You got sack nine times? Yeah, and then even he said that's not the lion's fault. Because you don't get sack nine times in the line. Yeah. He was hold the ball too long.

Yeah. Yeah. It is not a good command. They got them pretty quick. The Panthers win? Yeah. Your boy Baker. I need the Panthers win some games, baby.

Do you see any difference in the Panthers? Are they doing anything different? I didn't see a lot of this game. I just saw little bits and highlights while I was out watching the game. So I don't know exactly what was different, but I just saw what they're winning. Yeah. None of us saw this game. We suck.

All right, next game. Jaguars 38, Chargers 10, good for the Jaguars. Chargers are dealing with it right now. They were just going to throw short passes and run the ball anyway for the most part. Herbert was obviously hurt. Do you think he takes a couple games off now after not being able to perform? Yeah, if you're going to do it, got to do it now and make that decision.

Jags, though, pretty solid. Could win the division. Good for them. Literally. They all can win the division. Sure. Right? Let's talk about this for a second.

Jags? Yes. Yep. They compete though. I agree. That's the only reason I'm not saying no. It's like the lines of last year. They are gritty.

They are gritty. But you can't lose to the Bears. You have to win those type of games. All right, next game. Rams and Cardinals. I mean, what about Kyler? It's not good, man.

What he's doing is not good. And I saw so many bad decisions, you know, where he was trying to just get rid of the ball real quick. And he's lucky. He probably did that about six times. And he's lucky none of those got picked. And just things like that make me think,

Like, Kyler, I don't know what you're thinking. Also, I bet that I'm going to make the playoffs because Eddie said it was a sign from God. You know what? Hey, God was sending me a different sign. I misread that. Falcons beat Seahawks. Hey, good for the Falcons. Hey, I like that little team.

It's all saying. With Marioita Pitts, Kyle Pitts, and this London, whatever, Drake, London. Dude, I like what they're doing. I'm kind of a little fan of what the Falcons are doing over there. He likes the little team and he's a little fan. A little fan of the little fan. Packers beat the Bucks. We talked about that. Those teams, both those teams are going to be fine.

Packers should need to find receivers. Bucks just need to get everybody out of the hospital. Yes. Big time. I mean, but he's struggling. So there's that. Was this even a game? Broncos and 49ers. I fell asleep last night. I did too. I watched second half on the plane and it was...

You watched the second half? I watched the first one play. It's a terrible game. It was awful. What's up with Russell? What's going on over there? What's happening with him? Unlimited. Have you seen the Instagram? No. Unlimited. He's such a douche. I'm just convinced now. He's a robot. I didn't always think he was a douche. He's such a douche. Yeah, see? I just thought he was awkward.

Yeah, I think he's a... Maybe, maybe. But he like wants... He wants, like, his own... Like, locker away from the team and just a weird dude. I mean, I don't know. He's super weird. He's unlimited. You'll see it and be like, what? It's not the, uh, let's ride anymore? It's unlimited. Well, he made a thing and he was like, you ever have to do it? Like, double person? I wonder if I could find it real quick.

Yeah, because I didn't know what this is. He's like you ever have a, you feel like you have a second personality? Does he talk like that? Hold on. Well, he's a robot. No, I know. And I feel like he struggles with what, who he is. He knows who he is.

But I think he struggles with that versus who he wants everyone to think he is. That's what I kind of see in him. Like, I don't know if he's trying to fake that he's something or what. But whatever it is, there are definitely two personalities and he's struggling with it. Yeah. I don't see the Russell. unlimited post. I'll try to find it in a second. 49ers and

no, no, Jets and Bengals, let me hit this, and then I'll find it real quick. Go ahead. Hit that. Go ahead. You care about that game at all? No, I mean, it was what we thought the Jets last week after that big win last week. They weren't going to do much this week. And Bengals got on track. Okay, here we go. It's an old video, but they keep showing it over. Boring. Yes, Russell, the robot, Russell,

the one of you guys love to know. A real, real exciting. Yeah, I'm real exciting. But anyways, everybody, Everybody has to have an ultra ego, right? And I've been thinking about what my alter ego would be, and I think I have an alter ego. His name, his name's Mr. Mr. Mr. Unlimited. You've got to be unlimited.

You know, you've got to have a thought process of being unlimited. So when people ask you, you know, what you're thinking about or what you want to do in life or where you want to go, you got to be unlimited. Tell him, I'm unlimited. You know what I mean? So when they ask you certain questions like, Who brings your motivation, Russell?

Mr. Unlimited. Is he drunk? He sounds drunk. This is weird. That's the NFL. We'll go through college real quick, even though the college is stupid. George Beach can't stay closer than it should have been.

Yeah, way closer. Alabama crushed up on Vandy. I know Eddie, Vandy to cover, and I was like, don't do that, Eddie. 40 points. I'm like, come on, Vandy just scored twice, two touchdowns. Ohio State whipped up on Wisconsin. Michigan over Maryland, but not, like people thought.

Not at all. They did not cover. Clemson and Wake Forest double overtime. Great game. Awesome. It was really rooting for a Wake Forest there because Dabba won't come on the show. Oklahoma got to be by Kansas State, which was just an odd game to watch because it was never, Oklahoma never really was winning the game.

At the end, they had a shot to, like take the ball and score and maybe tied up, right? They're down 14. And it just was never a deal. Like, I was never like, okay, Oklahoma's got it. Arkansas Texas. I move right on. I'm broke in my heart, man.

Florida, Tennessee, Tennessee beat him 3833, but it wasn't as close as that. I felt like Tennessee like snockered him a little bit for most of the game. It was a little closer than I thought it was going to be. That was the final score, right?

Which is weird to see 3833 because I just felt like, and I guess I turned it off before the end and just saw the score, but that's closer than it was. That means Florida covered. Yeah, Billy Napier did a hell of a job, man. Really proud of him.

Good for Florida. Yeah. Love Florida. I wish you'd talk about it, you know. Baylor beat Iowa State, even though they were the underdog. Texas lost Texas Tech. And Middle Tennessee beat Miami, which is crazy. Middle.

Let's go. That's crazy. All right, that's it. That's it. Oh, hey, wait, have we thrown to the interview yet? We have not. Oh. You want to just go?

Unless we've been amazed. I'm exhausted. I know, I know. All right, let's throw, this is awesome. You're going to like this interview. This is Jay Glazer. You probably know him just from being all over everything. Mr. Football guy, but also a new book, new podcast. We didn't just talk about that, though.

And I honestly thought we'd talk about his book and podcast and we would get to doing the promo stuff and then get back to football. But hearing him, talking about mental health is really great, right? We all finished the interview. We're like, loved it. That was. Oh, he's awesome. Way better than I thought it would be in more ways than just football. When someone can be human like that and just feel free to talk about what they're going through is really refreshing and inspiring at the same time. Here is Jay Glazer. Jay, thanks for coming on, bud. Absolutely, man. I'm excited to come on here with you. How you doing? I'm doing good. Let me fanboy for a second and say that I'm just a massive fan. And I always, I mean, I look forward to a lot of the things that you do, especially the hits before the games, because I'm like, all right, let me find out what's either breaking or what do I need to know about who's hurt. So before we talk about some of the stuff that you're working on, just let me say that I'm a massive fan for a long time of what you do.

Thank you, brother. Appreciate it, man. It's pretty cool for me. This is my 20th year at the NFL and Fox. So like every weekend I get to have a family reunion with the rest of my family and we're all crazy. You know, it's me and Bradshaw and Howie Long and my baby sister Michael Strayan and Kermeneffey and Jimmy Johnson. But every week I get to have a family reunion. Like, how freaking cool is that? Yeah, it's awesome to have a job that you love. And I definitely want to get to the football stuff later. But, you know, I like yourself, I'm a big advocate of pursuing mental health. And I think, you know, me growing up in a small town in a very rural part of a state of Arkansas that we didn't know anything about mental health growing up. And then to watch you, you know, really champion this cause and share your struggles with it. Like that's inspiring for a guy like me. So I want to first talk about the podcast that is called Unbreakable. And you even say it's a mental health podcast. It's right there in the title. So you're letting everybody know what's going on there. What exactly are you talking about and how are you discussing mental health on the podcast?

Yeah. And that's the thing. The whole thing spawned from my book. you know, unbreakable, how I turn my depression, anxiety, in a motivation. And you can too, because I made a decision a long time ago, like I wasn't to let this thing beat me. And I live in something that I call the gray. That's depression, anxiety. Let's throwing some ADD, a little bipolar, if you can. I mean, I got it all. And it's my earliest childhood memory.

Like, I didn't sign up for this. I didn't ask for this. But it, man, it's every single day in my life. It is hard for me to get out of bed in the morning. I got to make that decision. But, you know, when you live in the gray, man, it's like you wake up every morning thinking the world hates you. You're not worthy of being loved.

The sky is falling. And it's not real. And I know people at home probably going, oh, what's this guy complaining about? His life is great. Man, my life is great. Like, I'm on here with you. Are you kidding me? But between my ears sucks.

So for all these years, I, like, created this character on TV, the glaze. you know, and, you know, fighting and football and ballers and doing all this. And I was just, I hit it. I just suffered in silence all these years. And I wish I spoke up earlier because of all the people I could have helped, but also I would have had a better team to walk this walk with together. And I would have been able to handle it a lot better than the ways I handle it, which the ways I handled it in the past were not healthy for me or other people.

You know, we spend so much time talking about our physical fitness. And again, I've been someone who was on. uneducated on it for a long time until I started experiencing things myself. But we do all this, you know, how to work out, how to eat. And that is a big part of health. But it ain't all a health. And I've learned this as well. And if you're not mentally healthy and you're not working on your mental health, it's almost hard to get healthy physically because if you're not all in up top, it's hard to be all in at all. Yeah. When the roommates in my head are not playing along nicely together, man, everything hurts. And so when I have these periods of the gray that I call them, it's, I get a

visceral physical reaction. When my depression, anxiety hit bad, I feel it actually in my joints, on the left side of my gut, and behind my rib cage. And that pain's very real for me. And it's something that I handle every single day. And you're right, but you know, mental health is so reactive these days, right? Physical health, like, man, you're going to go to the gym because you want to get yourself bigger and it's every day, right? Or stronger cardio, whatever that is, right? Like, I just talk to football teams. I say, you guys don't only catch passes when you have the drops. You throw them and catch them all the time. Mental health, we only go to see a therapist when the sky is falling. And that's sometimes too late. So I'm trying to get out ahead of it.

You know, we talk mental health. The reason why I wrote this book and the reason why I'm doing this podcast is I want to give it words. I want to give people words to be able to start having the conversation to, you know, and it's incredible the reaction I've had. I've had grandmothers reach out saying, thank you for the first time in 80 years, I could have this conversation and tell my husband and kids and grandkids what I've been going through. A lot of girl dads saying like, I don't have it. I'm thinking like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you do. But my daughter does, but now I'm able to have the conversation.

And I want to make this distinction very clear. I don't talk. I'm not a therapist. I'm not a doctor. I'm not a teacher. I'm just a dude who's messed up who's learning how to be good with his messed upness. And you don't have to have my level, which is clinical. And that's why I guess allows me to talk about it.

I have clinical depression, anxiety and that I hit all these years. But we're all going through something these days. Man, social media makes us all think our lives suck. Like we're comparing ourselves to everybody else's filtered fraction of a second of a day. And we're going, man, how come my food doesn't look like that? Why am I not at that party? Like we'd feel left out. Or on Twitter, we see so much hate and bullying.

And when I got bullied on the playground growing up, it sucked for a month. But now we're seeing it a thousand times a second on Twitter. So it's just a scarier world. So you don't look down my level, right? But we're all going through some sort of gray. And like I said, my job now is, you know, I felt cursed for all these years. But now I feel like God blessed me with depression, anxiety. so I could give other people a voice to hopefully help them through their pain because, man,

we deserve it. We don't deserve for this great a win. Screw that. Like, I deserve to live in the blue. We all do. I wonder what your turning point was as far as you mentioned the glaze and this larger than life character that you presented, but that was your job, right? I bet I do this too.

Like other days, I don't feel good, but I got to come and do a national show. And you got to be who people are tuning in to see or tuning into here. But for you, not only were you. you this larger than life person, but there's MMA, there's football. It's a very macho thing that you're a part of. And when was it for you that you went? You know what? I just have to be uncomfortably vulnerable because if I don't, like I'm not actually sharing who I really am. What was that turning point for you? I started going down worse and worse roads here as I've gotten older. You know, people think that you hit success. I thought, and here's a thing like for me,

that's why I say in the book title, how I use it to motivate me. I'm not able, like, I don't know what it's like to feel love from the inside out. I've never felt worthy of being loved, which sucks, man. It's lonely. I want to be loved. So it's, as a result, force me to do all these big, great things on the outside. Like, we're in the, I'm in the TV Hall of Fame. I was the first MMA host of a national show in America, doing five years on ballers

with the rock who wrote the forward for my book is how important this is. so it's forced me to go do all these great things on the outside to feel loved. And I thought, man, once I kind of made it and I'd have some money, because I was, and listen, I've been on both ends. The first 11 years of my career, I was making $9,700 bucks a year living in New York City. That sucks. So I understand what it's like to be broke and I worked my butt off to be unbreakable, if you will, because I needed to find that outside love to help lift me up. just didn't work like that.

Like the outside stuff didn't really fulfill me. So I kind of got sick of it, man. I got sick of waking up every day. And, you know, one of the things I read about in the book is that I need a team. And I've had fight teams and different teams to help me through. And I said, you know what? I'm going to start talking about it. Because the more I can talk about it, I'll get a bunch more teammates out there that

we can walk this walk together. And it'll help me through. And I've needed the help. As much as I'm helping others, I need the help just as much. I want to encourage you guys to check out Unbreakable, how I turn my depression, anxiety into motivation, and you can to by a Jay Glazer. And then the podcast, which is Unbreakable with Jay Glazer,

a mental health podcast, they are both. The first episode, Sean McVeigh, I assume you've got some really, like someone like me would consider really cool relationships. And is Sean a friend of yours who wanted to come on? Very close. So in the book, when I describe the gray, we're in Mexico, myself, him and Andrew Whitworth.

and we're trying to describe to him what depression anxiety is. And Sean, man, his life is like a nightlight. You know, he's like, like the worst thing that ever happened to Sean is he didn't win the Super Bowl in his second year ever as a youngest head coach in NFL history. And like his parents look like the people who are in picture frames, you buy him freaking Target. You know, it's like he doesn't understand childhood trauma or anything like that. So we start, he starts really deep dive and explaining.

So I thought it was a good way for me to explain it trying to explain to. trying to explain to the Super Bowl winning head coach of what it's like to have depression, anxiety, and the gray. And Andrew Whitworth, who's his captain, his left tackle, who's the Walter Payton Man of the Year award winner. He starts talking about it. And Sean goes, wait, you two? And he's like, Sean, what do you think gets me at 40 years of age to still pound my head into Aaron Donald every day?

Yeah, dude, I'm messed up. Absolutely. We all are. So we were trying to explain to Sean that it's not just your life. locker room. It's everybody around you and where you got to start, I said, Sean, think how great of a coach you could be. If you could start learning how to be vulnerable and you can start leaning into other people and start, you know, the attachment that I now have. And I'll tell you a story after this about me and Michael Strand, who's my best friend, you know, for 30 years that I hit it from.

But I said, man, imagine how much better for coaches will make you. Well, last year, they go O for November during the Super Bowl run and he was struggling and people don't know I would actually go out to his house I was concerned about it and I went to his house a couple times during that period

just to get him to start being vulnerable and opening up to people on his team and his staff and he did and he really started opening up to things that he was struggling with and that really helped bond them together and then they went on a Super Bowl run and it just

It made him a better coach and a better now. He's a husband now, better friend, better everything. So it's pretty cool. I got to, yeah, these relationships in the most dutely of worlds, right? Like I look at it like no one's questioned my manhood. I fought for years. I coached for years. Do football, ballers, all that.

So no one's questioned in my manhood. So I could cry to you on the drop of a dime. I'm good. What's the stray hand story? So, man, again, this guy is my best friend since 19, He and I latched on each other. And in those broke years, I didn't have enough money to go from, I had to go to Giant Stadium every day to work, to be a reporter.

I didn't have enough money to take a subway to a bus to Giant Stadium and back every day. So Stray drove me back into New York City every freaking day for like nine years. So I own like 28 grand in Lincoln Tunnel Fair. Right. So for years, and I hid this from my whole team, except Howie Long, how you could tell when I was having, I would have these anxiety attacks before the show and some mental breakdown sometimes.

And how he'd go, hey, hey, hey, hey, this guy's not falling. The sky's not falling. Because Howie's messed up too. You got to be messed up to be that violent of a football player. But so last year, 30 years, okay, Stray and I are supposed to go out to dinner. And man, the beast just got out of the box. And my anxiety, I got woken up in the middle of night by an anxiety attack. Like, how unfair is that?

And like, I didn't do anything. There wasn't anything that triggered me. It woke me up. And man, I just felt like my world was ending. And it freaking sucked. And like I said, it takes so much out of me physically when it happens. So for the first time in 30 years, I was supposed to go out to dinner with Stray,

and I said, man, can't go to dinner tonight. In the past, when this happened, I would use Vicodin and alcohol and just hide it. And that would usually be a lot more dangerous because I started to get a little 50, you know, start snatching people. And I'm not the most pleasant person on that. So for the first time of 30,

years, I said, Stray, can't go to dinner tonight, ma'am. The beast just got out of the box. And he said, you want, you want me to come over? I said, um, not this time. I think I just, I got to get back to bed. And he said, you want to talk about it. I said, a dude, but not right now. And then he said to me, why have you never told me about this? I'm your best friend. So, man, I don't make up the rules of this thing, bro. Whatever reason, I felt to shame with you. And he's like, yeah, but I, you took my ability to be your friend away. I wish you had opened up. I get a little choked up talking about it because had I been able to open up to him 30 years like I am now, I would have had somebody that I could have leaned on. I would

have had somebody who can help me out of that dark hole. So for everybody out there listening, listen, every single person I've opened up to about this when I'm having bad days. Who's told me to suck it up. Nobody's called me a wuss. In fact, it's gotten us closer together. And I would say the majority of my friends that I've opened up to about it have then in turn open up to me about something that they never know they could they ever could have.

Yeah, sounds like your team's very important to you. Your friends are very important to you. Your support group. Yes. Which also kind of. That's a pillar in the book of like how to get through this. Yeah. It's finding those teams.

I talk about when I will speak or, you know, I do a comedy. slash kind of TED talk where I tore a bit and I talk about how, you know, we're always afraid to ask for help. But if somebody asks us for help, we do it in a second. So if someone's ever like, hey, would you please help? Absolutely, I do it. But then why wouldn't you ask for help if you need it? I don't want to bother people. Oh, I don't know. But it's almost, you know, lend that perspective to you having to reach out to somebody because you would help somebody. So why would you not ask somebody to lend you a hand? See, you know what I do now? So now I have better tools to deal with it. So again, I had a another night. And I don't know why these been happening lately. But again, like I said,

like depression and anxiety, they pull a chair up whenever they damn well, please. There's no schedule. And for me also, I have a panic attack every single time I've ever been on TV from 2005 to now as I'm on, that first segment, only on our show, not on somebody else's show. It's the weirdest thing, which was really, really strange because, man, I'm great in chaos. I suck and calm. So I don't know. why that happens, it becomes habitual. But so as I'm talking to you on Sundays, every time that first segment, I'm having an anxiety attack and I'm, I call it wrestling with my abuser.

And so what I do now, when I get woken up in the middle of the night by it or I have a really bad day, I will call four friends and tell them, man, I am freaking struggling today. I just got to tell somebody because there's power in numbers, right? So I start telling them. And then the other thing I do, like another one of my pillars is being of service. And being of service can be charity or, you know, helping in so many different ways. But I'll call four other friends and not tell to them struggling just to check up on them.

And that combination of me calling people and having a team to help lift me up and then me checking up on others to be of service to them, that really helps that gray take a hike. Okay, we'll get back to the Jay Glazer interview in just a second. But let's talk about Draft Kings, NFL action. It's here, obviously. We're talking about it. We're loving it. And it's in full swing at Draft King's Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner of the NFL.

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All right, back with Jay Glazer. Speaking of friends, just relating it to your career, how do you have so many friends? How do you know so much stuff? Like, it's like if I needed to know something, If I was going to, you know, it would be called Jay Glazer if it's anybody. Is it all relationship-based? Everything's relationship-based.

And, you know, that's the only thing I kind of write about is, you know, the art of loyalty is a dying art, right? And I'm just, I'm the most loyal dude in the planet. Love me or hate me? Anybody you talk to about me will tell you I'm the most loyal dude on the planet. And I'm very, the way you have relationships is give, give. I'm always thinking for my friend and for people, not with them having to ask. And the same thing for me, I would hope not to ask. Like just give, give, think for people.

And that in itself is being of service. So I have that mindset of how can I give to people and lift them up? And that's what relationships are supposed to be. They're supposed to be give, give. But when I have like, man, when my friends lose in the NFL, I'm the first one to call because nobody else will. You know, when my friends, I see something on TMZ and they're going through something, bam, I'll call them two seconds to let them know they're going to walk this walk alone.

And I think there's something for that authenticity, especially in how fake this world is these days. Like I said, love me or hate me, at least you know who you're getting. I never know who I'm getting when I wake up in the morning myself, but everybody else knows who they're getting. The book is Unbreakable, how I turn my depression, anxiety into motivation. And you can too by Jay Glazer. We have a group of guys here that would like to ask you a couple of football questions. Are you cool with that? And feel free to share, even if you've been told this to keep secret, because it's never going to go anywhere.

We're never going to share. Tell us your deepest dark secrets. No one listened to this show. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Eddie, you're first up with Jay. Hey, Jay. It's awesome to talk to you. What's having, brother?

I'm a big Cowboys fan. And needless to say, we've been riddled with injuries, right? Is it weird to you? And this may be the first season that I've really seen this, or maybe I've just missed it. But with Dax injury, we're getting updates and reports from the owner versus like a team doctor. Who stayed in the Hollywood Express last night, right? He's telling you medical updates all of a sudden.

I'm like, Jerry, what are you doing? So is that your contact now? Like, instead of going to like a medical guy for Dax updates, what's your whole thought on going to Jerry now and Jerry giving us updates? Well, I don't go to him for that, but I talk to Jerry a lot. And Jerry and I actually have a story. I stole one of a steak sandwiches recently and he got so upset with me because I bullied him. And then he, I thought I was just joking around, but he was really pissed off me.

that I stole a steak sandwich. But the thing is, listen, no, he's getting information for the medical department, which he's now passing along. But here's the truth about Dax injury. Yes, it only takes seven to ten days. I think the Joneses get very, very optimistic, right? And I'm always like, dude, go on the other side. Man, tell everybody he's going to be out eight weeks.

So if he comes back earlier, he looks like John Wayne, you know. But when you tell people who's going to come back earlier or he doesn't, people get frustrated. but I think they just get very, very optimistic. The truth about the injury is that it takes like seven to ten days for that wound to heal. And where the break was, if there is a way to say it's an ideal place, I don't know if there's ever an ideal place for a broken thumb, but it's way better down toward the hand than it is, you know, in the middle of that thumb. But the truth is, is nobody can tell you, including Jerry Jones,

how quickly it's going to take for Dak to get his great. grip back and not just the grip will be able to spin that ball the way he wants to. So that's why like can he start throwing again soon? Yes. But nobody can tell you how fast that grip is going to come back. The exact way that he wants to start spinning that rock. You know, I'll talk about Patrick Mahomes for a second where I feel like. Yeah.

Never seen anything like him. He's, I felt like this offseason he was so disrespected. And people were like moving him down the list of active. But they used to do that to Brady all the time. too. Same thing. It's like you try and take down people who are the best. And I don't understand why either. I have no clue why. But I, hey, listen, man, it's my 30th year doing this, my 20th and Fox. Man, I have never seen anything like Patrick Malib's. In what way? Vision throws. The way he sees things, the amount of throws he can make from different angles, from off balance, from against

the grain, from the accuracy, the way he just looks like he's barely moving. his wrist and then all of a sudden it's 75 yards downfield like he's it's insane in fact i think beholmes is better now without tyrie kill he's he's going to evolve into an even better quarterback because with tyreek you almost were fortunate down downfield a lot and he would just he didn't have to have a lot of patience now this is forcing to have patience and you're seeing him to start spread the ball out more go through his progressions and that just makes them a lot more dangerous. We feel like these athletes are up on this crazy pedestal where they're not looking down and seeing what we are doing down here. But I imagine he's seeing and hearing or did hear

a lot of the stuff that was being said about him. Do you feel like he's extra, and it's hard to be extra motivated when you're extremely motivated just, you know, as an everyday standard, but do you feel like he's extra motivated this year? No, I think he, and that's why I say he's different. Like guys like he and Tom Brady, they don't need any motivation. They're great. You know, I've trained hundreds of players in mixed martial arts. And I always tell these guys, hey, here's the secret to success. Find out who the best is and do more than them. That's it.

Pretty simple. And I can't tell you how many guys would be like, well, I can't do more than Tom Brady. Why not? Like Tom had to do more than somebody else, right? Why not? You want to be great. Find out who the best is and do more than them. Patrick Burhomes, the way he works in him, things he works at.

You got to be crazy to be great. You've got to have that sickness, right? where and really greatness comes from the hours that you put work in that when nobody's watching. And I think people like Mahomes and Brady, like Brady has the staying power because today's player, they care more about being famous than being great. Being famous is not the same as being great. Back in the day, you had to work your butt off to get famous. You had to get to the Pro Bowl.

It was a different type of player. But now because of social media, they're all famous. And again, a lot of them just think being famous and being great. And it's not. So when you have guys like Tom or Patrick who just care about being great and they're constantly just outwork in the world, that's why you see these guys continue to just rise up and they get better and better and better.

Tom's throwing for more yards or TDs. I forget the stat in his 40s and he did his 20s. That's ridiculous. Justin Herbert. We're talking about, you know, Dax injury. Let's talk about Justin Herbert for a second. How hard is it? Because again, with your MMA background,

You've probably strained and injured everything at some point. Yeah. I've had this injury. Oh, man, it sucks. Yeah, what's he dealing with and what do you expect from him all season? Oh, my God. So it's you're better off pain wise. You're better breaking a rib than fracture in that cartilage between the ribs.

First of all, you break a rib. A rib's more dangerous because it could it could pop out and puncture a lung, right? But the cartilage, man, it's hard. to, like Terry Brouchard just said, he had it, and took him seven weeks to get over. And he didn't plan. It's hard to talk, laugh, sneezing and coughing. That's the worst. Oh, man, it sucks so badly.

Like, I try to never look up at the sun when I have this. And the problem, too, is it's a hard area to shoot, to shoot up, right, to inject. And you saw that, well, last time with the chargers, they try to shoot up Tyra Tail. They punctured his lung, right? And that's, that's what started. Justin Herbert's career, but I don't, man, the fact that he had that injury. And then I knew right away when it happened, I said, I said either broke his rib or or got the cartilage. And I'm like, man, they're going to have to pull him. Like, there's no way he's

to be able to turn and torque. And he threw that dime of a pass. That was, that was ridiculous. On fourth down. I mean, on fourth down. But it's like, I don't know how he's going to yell at his cadence. I don't know how he's going to continue. Now that the adrenaline's down, it's, man, that injury, it sucks. Is that going to affect him all season long or is it a three or four? No, he'll get over it. He'll get over it. It takes, I mean, everybody's different. I'm trying to think of a long mind. Might take about a month. Yeah, mine took a month of trying not to sneeze and cough. And I couldn't train, but I couldn't train with mine at all. And nor did I have any desire two.

Two more players I want to ask you. Must get hit by a helmet in the area. Yeah, I mean, even the coughing, right? Because I mean, even that probably sets you back. Two more players I want to ask you about. Jalen Hertz, and not so much at what he's done this year, but it seems like it was just yesterday. The big debate was, does Philly want to commit to Jalen Hertz as their quarterback?

Pull him, let him play, trade. So what have we learned, though, with how awesome he is now versus when they were questioning if he could even be the quarterback? Well, he's better. I don't know about awesome yet, right? It's only a couple weeks. I want to see because now people start adjusting to almost as new Jail that Hertz, if you will, right?

So I want to see how we response to that. But we go back to like, you know, I look for guys who work their butts off. And, you know, buddy of mine used to coach for me at Unbreakable. My gym in L.A. Coaches him down there and trains him. And he's like, dude, this kid just nonstop. Nonstop works. So, you know, his thing was accuracy.

and it's really hard to become more accurate as time goes on. But were they looking to replace him at a time? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. They're trying to upgrade if they thought. But as he continued to work at this, work of this, work of this, he is now coming. And I think the Eagles are going to be one of those teams. I thought they're going to be a turnaround team this year,

not as much for the talent they brought in, but for the fact that last year with the head coach Nick Siriani, they're all kind of like, eh, does this guy really know what he's doing? Should he have gotten the job? Where are we going here? And now they're all bought it. Now they're like, okay, he's a king man in charge. We follow them.

We're good. So they had just a different confidence about them. All right. Last one. I'm sure you could ask about this a lot like with Tom Brady in all the rumors and tweets. Yeah, yeah. Do we expect this, whatever this is? I'm not even asking you to say what this is.

Yeah, because I'm on TMZ. Yeah, yeah. Whatever this is, do we. expect him to be affected all season long. Tom has this thing, man, where I was with him the week he came back. And the great ones are like, man, like Randy Couture is my training partner. And Randy got hit with these legal papers before he went down and fight Tim Sylvia for the heavyweight championship of the world.

And it was bad. And he goes down with the biggest smile on his face. And he beats the dog, you know what out of Tim Sylvia. And Randy's 44 years of age. But he's smiling the whole time. And I'm going, well, how are you? able to compartmentalize like that. And he said, because that cage is the only place my problems can't touch me. And I think Tom is one of those elite guys where, man, between those lines,

his problems can't touch him. But that's why I don't touch his personal life because that's, that's him, man, you know, that's, that's, that's, that's Tom's life. And we all go through stuff. And do I think it will affect him on the field? No, I don't. I don't. I think he's so mentally strong like that. Unbreakable with Jay Glazer. It's a podcast. You can go and actually check that out today. And you can order the book. Unbreakable, how I turn my depression, anxiety into motivation. And you can too. Hey, just appreciate how candid you are about struggle in general. It's not easy. Vulnerability is a really hard thing to learn, a very empowering thing, what you can understand and see the effects it has on other people and the strength that you get from them. So I think you have inspired so many and so many more with the podcast.

And thank you for your time. And thank you for your efforts, Jay. I appreciate that. And I appreciate also. I want people to understand it. I'm talking about heavy stuff. But I'm also, we're going to laugh. Like laughter helps me through it too. So if you read the book, you listen to the podcast, it'll be some heavy stuff. But you'll definitely get some laughter in there too because I think the gray hates laughter.

At Jay Glazer on the socials. We'll be looking forward to us. Jay, see you on TV again. My dude. Thank you, brother. See you, buddy. All right. Thanks to Jay Glazer.

Thanks to you guys. That's all. Final thoughts. Kevin? My final thoughts are going back to my team, Patriots. I think I might have the feeling of what it feels like to be just an average fan base or a team for the first time in about 20 years. And settling in, I'm 31.

So you haven't really as someone who has mature emotions. No. Had to deal with a team that's only okay. No. Thank God you do. It's not fun. It sucks. Yeah.

It's not fun. It's not fun. My teams never went. Or at least they haven't until recently. We haven't won the big one ever. In 94? basketball? Or football is so good.

I'm glad you're suffering. Yeah. That's very nice for giving me to the club guys. You got cowboy fans in here. I mean, but they'll never actually like realize it or the reality of it. Well, no, we just, we're positive. We've got to stay positive, back our team in the ups and the downs.

Eddie, your final thought? My final thought is I've lost my car. I lost my wife's car. The chiefs were supposed to cover minus five. They did not. They actually lost the game. So that's stupid. But next podcast.

Do you kids have little cars, like a little Jeep? Yeah, I got one of those, like the ones you can, Flintstone. You'll bet that. But no. On next podcast, I will give you a 12-game parlay that you can just bid a dollar and we can at least get a really nice bike. A 12 game. Yeah.

That's going to take the whole podcast to do. Start now. Guys, look, if you hit this with $1 bet, we can get one, man, one of those track bikes, a huffy, you can get five huffies. Okay, Eddie's big 12-gamer going up Friday. We'll call it the 12-inch. That's cool I like that

Finally, I'm just going to say this The sun comes up tomorrow It does So anytime you're down You think I hate football And I hate We've lost it all

And there's no reason to go on And no reason to play No reason to watch another game ever And you just sad The sun comes up tomorrow With or without you It's coming up And I'd rather it be with you

And I'm talking to myself I'm like What are you talking about? It's all right dude I was distraught I woke up the next day Distriught And I have to tell myself, we've lost other big games.

And you know what? After a couple days, it still sucks. But you just adjust yourself and you get back into it, just like life. Adversity hits you. What do you do? You fall down, stay down? No. Sometimes.

I do. Or do you get back up. And as a fan, I'm going to get back up. I'm going to watch us play Alabama. Oh, boy. And then you can get back down. I'm going to tell you this. I'm going to tell you this.

I'm going to end up. This is a part of the reason it was so brutal, too. If Arkansas would have won, game day was coming to Fayetteville. Oh, dang, and you would have been on it. Did that? Wait, let's move on. I've never been the guest. Let's move on.

You're not 100% on that. You're about 99% but let's move on. I've never been the guest picker from when I was told leading up to it. Damn, no. That hurts. I know. Oh, man. Yeah, now you guys are sad for me.

Yeah, yeah. Multiple levels. The sun's definitely not coming up to Mark. Son's coming up. With you or without you. I'd rather be with you, but it's coming up. No, it's going to be a rainy. Day moves on. Then it comes up the next day. All right.

Thank you guys. Thanks to Drap Kings. We will see you on Friday.