The Bobby Bones Show - 25W: The Time Bobby Spent Christmas in Australia with Keith Urban + Is Kickoff Kevin Making Excuses for Not Going to the Super Bowl? + Our Favorite Wrestlers of All-Time

Episode Date: February 3, 2026

Bobby shares a story from the time he spent Christmas in Australia with Keith Urban, including how it came together and what surprised him once he was there. Then Kickoff Kevin explains his case for not going to the Super Bowl—and the room weighs in on whether it’s practical or just an excuse. Plus, everyone goes around and lists their favorite wrestlers of all time, from the legends to the personal picks.     Download the DraftKings Sportsbook App today: https://dkng.co/bobbysports If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/MI/NJ/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/NH), 888-789-7777/visit http://ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 1-877-770-STOP (7867) (LA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), call/text TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA).21+ (18+ WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/LA/MI/NJ/ NY/PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. N/A in NH/OR/ON. New customers only. Valid 1 per new customer. Min. $5 deposit. Min $5 wager. $200 issued as eight (8) $25 free bets. Ends 9/19/22. See http://draftkings.com/sportsbook for details.  Follow the Show: @25WhistlesSports  Follow the Crew: @MrBobbyBones @ProducerEddie @KickoffKevin @MikeDeestro @BrandonRayMusicSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We're also going to go out to the Super Bowl And do some interviews So you'll have that coming up later this week as well You hit us with the whistle Thank you very much What I found In a big box of stuff Was an old break that I had won

It is in a box It is still, it was sealed I don't know what's in it So But it's something that you won Right? Like a long time ago? A year and a half ago

so. So you don't remember. It's going to be a helmet signed by somebody. We don't know what team or we don't know what person. So we were making guesses before. We'll just pull it now. But what did you guess? Derek Henry.

But do you remember winning a Derek Henry at any point of your life? Man, I don't know. Yes, I don't know. There's a lot at one point. You? Garrett Wilson. Jets. That's solid.

He would have been a rookie maybe or after his rookie year? Yeah. Yeah. If I didn't open it, it's probably a team I don't care about. a player I didn't care about. So I would guess someone like the Seahawks and someone like, I don't want to say Jackson Smith and Jigua. Oh, well, not. You would care about that, right? Then, probably not. This year was his breakout year. But I'll go Seahawks. I mean, I would care about Sean Alexander. Yeah. And Sam Darnold wasn't a Seahawks. I'll go Russell Wilson Seahawks.

From a long time ago. Okay, here we go. All right, here we go. Opening it up. Dang, it's like old times. It is. And I'm not going to look at the tag, so I'll just kind of open it. Dang, this brings back memories. Okay, we were all wrong with the team. Okay. It is the Cincinnati Bengals.

Oh, that's cool. And then, do we want to guess from Cincinnati? Well, okay, I'll guess T. Higgins, because that'd be the worst one that could possibly get. Okay. Meaning T. Higgins is third. Jamar Chase would be second, Joe Burrow will be first in the order of, like, cool Bengals. That bengals sound looks cool. I'm going to go Chase Brown.

Oh, that'd be the worst. I'm going to go Joe Mixon, because I think you're still on team of that. That would be solid. I bet you I can identify it just by the autograph. There you go. That is a... That looks like Jamar. Is it Joe Burrow?

I don't know. Is it Joe Burrow? Oh, I don't know. What's it say? It's Joe Burrow. Yeah. That's a legit helmet, dude. Okay, that's a good one.

That was fun. I feel like I'm going to get injured just having it on the table. Yeah. Yeah, make it look good there. There we go. That's cool. Hey, that is a good one. It is a real good one.

I feel like the Bengals helmet's the best-looking helmet in the NFL. Really? I think it's the coolest helmet. It is very cool. Oh, when the ice, is it called ice out? Yeah, the white ones? The white tiger ones? Those look cool.

Yeah, those are sweet. I think this helmet's the best helmet, the tiger stripes. Man, there's something about the Jets' little lollipop green that I love. I love that color. I hate that green. I think the Jets have an ugly logo. The logo's stupid. It's so old.

But that's just the helmet. Yeah, I know, but I like that the way the green pops. But you're right. I think this is the coolest. I think the Raven's all black. That thing is sweet. Like a matte black that they have with a purple on the logo. But it's almost got to be their regular helmet.

It's got to be the raven on it. You can't pick like their color. Their alternate. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which theirs is purple, right? It's always purple with a raven on it. I don't know. I think the Bengals' best helmet.

I did see that Robert Kraft did not make the Hall of Fame. What the heck? It's for cheating. The same reason Belichick didn't make it. So they're not going to be first-teamers. They'll be second ballot Hall of Famers. And it's for cheating. It's literally they're just getting punished a year because they cheated.

Kevin, do you admit that they cheated? The spy gate, yes. The deflategate is a fabricated manufactured. Still, people were punished for it, so it was cheating. Yeah, because they had to punish somebody. But deflate gate itself was massive. So, yes, they are not in the Hall of Fame because they cheated. Deflake gate was big, but they.

How many coaches have come out and said, they're stupid because they got caught? Spygate. Spygate, sorry, Spygate because they got caught. All these coaches, Jimmy Johnson even came out last weekend. We all did this. Great. They got caught. So, yeah, they're stupid for that.

Yeah, they got caught cheating. Cheating or not, it's the greatest coach of all time and probably the greatest owner of all time? Only because he had the greatest quarterback and greatest coach. Fair. Which is all on him, though, right? Sure. Yeah. But they're not getting first ballot because they cheated.

So you just have to admit that. They cheated, and now they're being punished a year because they cheated. Yes. And it's one year, dude. Like, they're going to get it eventually. It doesn't matter how long. The whole thing is, it's like the principle of it. It's like, come on.

Yeah, the principle is they cheated. But the principle is they're the greatest of all time. Because they cheated. Not because they cheated. Yeah, two of those championships are because they cheated. What about the other, what, four? That's fine. That's great.

But that still wouldn't make them the greatest of all time. No, I know. You're just a fan. No, it's just a cop out for people that are like, I'm not a hater. It's the same thing as people paying college players before it was ever a thing. It's like we all know you did it. As long as they didn't get caught, just like you said, I'm just using your own logic and your own argument that you just made.

Yeah, they got caught. They're stupid for that. That's it. They are being punished because they cheated. Take away the titles from when they cheated. They only have four. And there's many teams, owners that have four. Steelers have four.

I just think these people are bitter. They don't like Belichick and they don't like Kraft. I think. I think they don't want to put them in the Hall of Fame first ballot because they cheated. That's the absolute reason. The only reason? I'm not a hater. I like the Patriots.

I liked it when the Patriots were winning. I love a dynasty. I love sustained greatness because it's so hard. And when you do see it, it's almost like you want to bottle that up because it comes around so slow. I am not a hater. You're a Chief's hater because you're a Patriots lover. I'm not a Patriots hater for any reason. I'm a Patriots likeer.

I like Tom Brady. I'm still saying they cheated and that's why they're not in. And you say the only reason? Like you think it's not the only reason? No, I don't think these writers, they're a person. It's a person as these writers voting, right? They have a personal vendetta or a personal feeling towards a bell-echeck. Yeah, feeling that somebody who cheated should not get in the Hall of Fame first ballot.

If this was in 2010 and it was still like whatever five years off of all that, I would understand that. But 15, 20 years later, it's just hard for me. They're just now eligible. Yeah, I know. I'm just saying like. Barry Bonds didn't get option to go into the baseball Hall of Fame until five years after he was. out. Pete Rose.

Yeah. I also think a little different conversation, but I also think only one year after not coaching is a little ridiculous to be. The reason that's like that is because they're old. Like when you retire from sports, you're 40 and you have an easy five years to live. When you retire as a coach, sometimes you're 70. And if you're a Hall of Fame coach, you've had a sustained career or you're in your 60s or 70s. You may not live another five years.

So I'm all for the coach being a year. Because again, Belichick's 72, 72, 73. What's crazy is these coaches will go out for a year or two. And they come back. Stone Cold comes back and wrestle. He wrestled in the Hall of Fame. Ray Mysterio wrestled the Royal Rumble. He is in the Hall of Fame.

So, yes, I can't compare Stone Cold to Bill Belichick. That's weird. I can't do that. I know. I'm trying to think about it. Hey, we love Stone Cold. But I just think these people are haters, and it's pretty embarrassing that,

the greatest of all time, no matter what your personal feelings are, about what happened 20 years ago, you're keeping them out when they were the most... Now what, does Tom Brady not get voted in the first year? I think, though, again, I'll just use your logic. I don't hear you complaining every year Barry Bonds does not get in the Hall of Fame

or Pete Rose did not get in the Hall of Fame. They cheated, did things against the rules that weren't... And they're not in. And you're not every baseball. You're going, they're the best. It's because it's your team. If somebody asked me, though, I would say Barry Bonds should be in. Me too.

He's the greatest hitter of all time. Yeah. I agree. And a lot of people don't like him. Reporters, they say he was an A-hole and all that. But there are other steroid guys who have gotten in, so it's not just the steroids. It's both. But it doesn't help that Belichick was not nice, but he cheated. He will get in next year.

I'm fine with it. He should get in. He's the greatest coach of all time. Yeah. But he cheated. Do you think Robert Kraft's massage parlor thing has anything to do with it? I forgot about that. I never forget about that one.

A lot of sleazy activities happening with athletes and owner, just rich people. Like I see his face And that's the first thing I think of Yeah, not to take Really? And do 30 minutes on But yeah, that's why I don't even think it's just bitter

I think there are a couple bitter Bitter betties But I think there are other people that go I don't think they deserve to get in first ballot The prestigious first ballot Because they cheated Then there's a whole If they don't get in first ballot

Then nobody Literally nobody should ever get in No That's absolutely not true Like Andy Reid If he was first ballot this year You would Yeah

You think he would get voted in Because everyone likes them he's a like a little guy. No, because he didn't cheat. He's not, he didn't have games suspended or lost or money or draft picks lost because they got caught cheating. I just have a hard time. Yes, because it's your team. Because I'm a fan. Yeah, that's fair. That's a fair argument. But at the same time, like, even the Astros, that whole thing. Like Al Tuvei, will he get in? Who knows? But like that didn't bother me. I was like, yeah, because your team does it. No. The Red Sox? They're not your team.

Oh, the Red Sox are cheating too, though, in a different way. Yes, they were. They got in trouble the same time. What were they doing? Cheating. Were they trashed? Apple watches? Oh, Apple, yeah, Apple watches.

There's advantages in every sport that people try to get away with. No, that's called cheating if you get caught. It's like Michigan. Okay, I'm not going to spend 10 minutes doing this, but they deserve to be in the Hall of Fame. Right now. Okay, fine, but they didn't get it because they got caught cheating. Yeah, that's right. If they were just jerks, they had got in.

If they just weren't liked, they would have got in. So you can be butt hurt. They're in my Hall of Fame. Great. Belichick's having that party. What party? He's having a party at the same time as they're having the Hall of Fame party where they're throwing a big bash because he didn't get in the Hall of Fame.

You guys haven't seen that? No. Man, you guys need to keep up with your Belichick. Yeah, obviously we're missing out. Bill Belichick's girlfriend's planning a huge bash for him on the same day as the Football Hall of Fame induction ceremony. Oh, shit. Jordan's planning it.

Oh, that's nice. It's nice to her. supportive. She's planning a huge bash. The eight-time Super Bowl winning coach didn't reach the final round of voting to be inducted this year. Yes, people are upset because they deserve to be in,

but also you can't really go out and be like, no, I get it. Because then someone would go, yeah, remember when you were being a little dishonest? You can't really from a glass house go. Brady especially. He cheated with them. Not Spygate Gate, though.

Brady had nothing to do with SpyGate. Just deflategate. That was all him. Oh, my gosh. Okay, but that is one. You don't actually believe that, do you? Yes. Oh, my gosh.

Brady's the one going, hey, dude, I need these a little more squishy. Why? Because I throw it better and further. Hey, if the Cowboys that have been in the playoffs at all recently. They haven't this, so shut up. Exactly. All right, we'll start with that. The NFL also announced nine international games for next year.

There will be three games in London. There will be a game in Madrid, Spain. There will be a game for the first time. Man, this would suck to have to go to this game. Like to fly to this game to play because it is so. far. It's in Melbourne, Australia. Oh, my God. Yes. You've done that flight. Dude, it's 20 hours. Oh, my goodness. Do you have a bed on that flight? Like a something? I did. I'm assuming these guys will. I don't think they have a whole jet full of beds. Maybe they take multiple, because these guys need

to rest. Possibly. Oh. That's brutal. That's brutal. 20 hours. Is 20 hours in the air? It was 20 hours to get there. Mike, would you look up to see what that flight is in? the air. Melbourne, Australia, Mexico City. Oh, good luck. So, you know, you got to get to the cartel. Yeah, good luck with that. 17.5 in the air. Dang. That's brutal. With the connection and average of 21 hours. And how long do you take, like, how early do you have to get there to get situated? To play a football game. Oh, you have to have. Depending on the coach, some of them will fly in day up and go, we're not going to adjust in some. No way. Obviously, we'll get there a week early. They should almost get two weeks off after that game. Yes. Hey, on that flight, are people just

walking around everywhere. Oh, yeah. Just trying to get. Yeah, I had to keep blood going, keep blood circulating. I had a bed. And so I slept for some. And I was in my sleeping pill phase. So I would just take more sleeping pills and go back to sleep.

But I was again, I'd always be afraid to wake up and be like taking a dump on the floor or something. Stupid question. Do you have privacy on that bed? Like could you and your girl? No, she can't. She can come over there and just like sit. But there's no chair. And no, you can, from the top, you walk by, you look down.

You can see them completely. and there's an open sides. No privacy. Like they don't have a roof that you can put over. No, no roof. Sometimes they have like a door you can close, but they definitely don't have a roof. I've never been on one of those flights

where I've seen them on TikTok where the person goes into like a little cabin. Mike you ever see those? Oh yeah. I've never even seen a flight like that. What about like crazy rich Asians? That plane, do you remember that movie? That's a plane.

I'm like, those actually exist? Is that one of those? Yeah, they have like a bar in the front and everything and I was like, what the heck? Do you know how much a first class seat is to Australia? You want to look that up? I have a guess because I bought it a couple times. How much is a regular ticket?

Well, now you're asking me things. I don't know. Sorry, yeah. Like you would remember that. First class between $7,000 and $15,000. Dang. One way or both? For a round trip.

First way, first class to Australia. I think they were about $10,000. Wow. Did you like Australia? Hmm? It's fine. Yeah, it was fine. I went over with Nikita.

Yeah. I don't have anywhere to go for Christmas. Uh-huh. Oh, and she's from there, so she kind of, you saw the... Her family was there. Yeah. Yeah, it was great. I went to Keith Urban's house for Christmas because I, Keith Irvin's like, you're in town

for Christmas? And I say, yeah. He said, are you with your family? I said, no, I'm just with a friend. And she was like, you can come back. And so I went over to his house for Christmas. That's cool. We've ever talked about this.

What was that like? Do they eat? Like, what do they eat? Have I haven't talked about this? No, not really. I remember you saying that you were in Australia and you saw Keith and Nicole, but I don't really remember you going to their house. By the way, the quick story of who Nikita is, Nikita Carmen.

Eddie and I were looking for somebody in the raging idiots as a female to be part of the band. And so she was living in Australia. And we were like, hey, you can come be part of the band. So she moved over here. And then she ended up opening for us because she was her own artist. But she played with us some as well. And then we were all really good friends. And she was like, I'm going home for Christmas.

It's warm. You're welcome to come back with me. And I said, all right. And so I flew over and hung out at her house and I stayed in a hotel. And then I would just go do stuff by myself. You were in Sydney? Yeah. Some, but some I was just with her and her family.

It was nothing romantic at all. And so I walked up that bridge. Oh, the big one. The huge one, because there are stairs that go up it and the wind's blowing. You feel like you're going to blow off and die. Oh, really? And I was over and I posted on Twitter and Keith Urban saw my tweet. And he said, you're in Australia?

yeah, I said, yeah. He said for Christmas, I said, yeah, I didn't have anywhere to go. And he said, why don't you come over to me and Nicole's? We have an apartment. It was near downtown. So we went to Keith and Nicole's, like, two-floor apartment in downtown Sydney. That's amazing. I didn't know any of the people there. I think there were some famous Australians. Oh, it was a party? Yeah. Oh, nice. It was like a party. Yeah. Were they in like pajamas, just got done wrapping her opening presents? No, it was like Christmas party. All adults, no kids. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of us. in there? Not that I remember.

Yeah. I didn't talk to a whole lot of people. You know me anyway when I get that. Wait, what did you do when you got there then? I was like, hey, I'm Bobby. Keith told me to come because there was somebody down at the front with the club board because people were coming to the party. And they were like, oh yeah, go here, going up to this floor. And so I go up and then it opens up and and they're the only place on the floor. And so then it's the only door. So I walk in and he's like, Bobby. And he's like, welcome, get somebody to eat, whatever. And so then he shows me around and walk outside. I didn't say half an hour. Outside, you can see all downtown early. Oh, yeah. What am I going to do? That's what I was wondering. I know one person. He didn't drink.

Well, two people, one and a half, Keith and half Nicole. Like I know we know each other well enough that we see each other, but it's not like I have a relationship with there. That's true. Orders, food. Yeah. People walking around with odorses, not just to count. Oh, yeah. Nice. I love this. Champagne that you didn't drink any non-nobes. There was champagne that I didn't drink. I just didn't want to be the guy to go, hey, do you have any non-alcoholic beverages? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I would kind of just drink the water.

Did you take a gift? This dude, this has been like six years. No, because he texts me for two hours before it started. Did you bring any food or wine? No, I brought nothing. I just went to shut up. I didn't even really have clothes to go over. I just had like a collared shirt and tucked it in some pants.

I bet that is cool, though, for Keith, like just somebody that I know from back in the States. I think I was the only American. in there. That's cool, man. That's awesome. Dude. Long flight, though.

You've been able to do some cool stuff. Some. I stopped in New Zealand on a layover. Oh. It's on the way. Like for a day or a couple days?

No, like four hours. The thing about European airports or Australia is you don't go to gates. You sit in a wide open room in the middle of the airport and they go, all right, if this is your flight, go. In America, we go and it's like B12

and you kind of sit at B12. They're more organized. any of the European airports I've been to or New Zealand or Australia, there's just like a big area and you just sit there and they're like, brung! If you're a flight, did it? Go. And then you go.

Wow. Yeah, that's my key to urban story. But Melbourne, Australia, that's like a terrible game to play. Mexico City said that Munich, Germany, another game there. A new location in Paris, France. Paris is awesome. Yeah.

That all seems kind of the same area. The Europe part. Yeah. Yeah, Europe ones. No, you're talking about Australia and Paris. No, not those. Two pairs is awesome. Really?

I've been twice once. It was really cold and it kind of sucked because it was so cold. Still enjoyed it. But went once when it was warm. I think it's like my second favorite city ever that I've ever been to. It's so cool. Your first being. Vienna, Austria.

No American cities. They're all normal. That's like one in your backyard. Yeah, yeah. But I mean, to me, New York City is like pretty amazing. Yeah. I do have been there a hundred times. I know.

And also it's like I can now. I'll see the bad stuff about it because I know it well enough. Yeah. And then Rio Brazil, new location. Oh, again. No, they did that. It says new location. Oh, I guess they were in Brazil, but maybe not Rio.

Yeah, so it's a lot of international games. It feels like a bit too many. And then Australia is a completely different time zone. Yes. Like, it's not even close. Like Europe's like seven or eight hours. What's the else? What's Melbourne, Australia, right now?

6.21 a.m. Wednesday. So it's tomorrow. That's tomorrow. If Tina? They're international. another day. Yeah, I don't even want to try to speculate when they're going to play those games. And the Mexico City one, that's our time.

So, like, I'm assuming it'll be a regular time. Have that at normal. Yeah, normal time. I'll play in that one. Which one would you go to, though, if you got to go to one? Which one would you like to go to? Australia. And we don't know who's playing yet, right?

I would want to go to the Paris, France one, just because Paris is awesome. Maybe Munich, Germany? Yeah. It's the best hot dog ever had. Really? In Munich? Yeah, best. And a lot of hype, a lot of build-up, because it's what's unknown for.

Was a Brought? Oh, Bratworth, yeah. God, dude, it was awesome. Melted in my mouth. And it was longer than the bun. Oh, my. Yeah. It was like coming out the bun.

So did you eat the wiener first? Yeah, you have to. Yeah, yeah. You can't get to the bun unless you eat the wiener. Right, right, right. You got to go raw dog wiener before you get to that bread. Good point. Yeah, probably Munich, Germany.

Yeah, I think that would be mine, too. Then Paris. So there you go. Let's see. Here's some prop bets for the Super Bowl, the Gatorade color. This is always one. I feel like this is the one, though, that you can really manipulate. Yeah.

If you're on the team. If you're the one doing the Gatorade's? Yeah. What do you think the favorite is? And green. It's blue. I don't know why. Oh, blue?

Maybe people, they just use more blue Gatorade during games. Have anything to do the team colors? No. No. I mean, what are the colors? Blue and orange. Okay, blue orange, and. And then yellow is right.

there too. It jumps big at purple or red or water. If you dump water is the first one, you're a loser. That would be hilarious. You gotta go dump. Yeah, yeah. Or the big controversies if you dump like lemon ice and somebody bets water and that, because that's clear. Oh, right, right. And then there's a big fight about what it actually was. So they have to go and like lick the coach to see what the taste is. Yeah, blue is a plus 200. The quarterback to catch a pass. If you bet a hundred bucks on yes and they do, you make $1,200. Oh. So a quarterback would catch a pass in either running a trick play

or their ball gets batted up and instead of them batting it down, they catch it back from the bat. Can you imagine that's how you win? That'd be cool. I just can't imagine winning anymore, guys. It's been a rough. I know, dude.

Yeah, I haven't bet anything in a couple weeks now, obviously, with no games. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I felt like I've been past it and then I just remember our league. Jersey number of first touchdown score. The favorite is over. over 10 and a half.

So that would be all the wide receivers, all the running backs. Unless there's a low-numbered wide receiver. But yeah, over 10-and-a-half is the big favorite there. Total players to have a pass attempt. Okay. So, like, out of the whole game? What do you think the over-under is? Okay, let's see.

Total players, two quarterbacks, maybe a couple of, like, you know, fakes. I'd say three. It's two and a half, because who else is going to throw a pass? Yeah, yeah. Unless it's a half-back pass. Sure. A fake punt. Both teams run something, yeah.

But a flea flicker, a quartermaster's throwing it again. Not a flea flicker. I was thinking of what's that? Yeah. What is that when like, you know, they hand it off and then... Double pass or... And they throw it... Oh, no, no, no. They throw it off to like the running back or whatever off the side,

and then the running back throws it. No, double pass. Is that a double pass? Yeah. Okay. Will there be an octopus? Do you know what an octopus is? Something about eight.

Like, well, 8-8-8 or something? Think about it. The odds, yes. or plus 1,500. So if you bet $100, you make $1,500. I've seen this bet available every single time. I'm like, don't know what it is. I hit this a couple years ago.

Think about it. What do you think an octopus is? And how would you get an octopus in a game? Because it's obviously possible. The only thing I can think of is anything divisible by 8. It is getting the 6 point for the touchdowns, and then the touchdown and then get a two-point conversion. Oh, that's 8 points.

It's scoring 8 points. Got it. A turbo tray. What is that? Sounds like a good snack. Patriots running back Trey Henderson to record the fast as carrier in the game. So they measure the miles per hour.

Yeah, that's like a whole next-gen. Turbo Trey. What's the Trey for? Trevion. Is his name. Oh, got it. Yeah, yeah. Got it.

Good one. Oh, and they just have it as Trey Henderson. It's Trevion. And he's the favorite. That's why they call it that. A score on the last play of the game? Yes, is a plus 800. So that would be a made-field goal.

Yeah. Yeah. I like that one. Touchdown. It's a close game. Yeah. You excited for the game? Yeah.

Are you staying? Yeah, yeah. I got my dad and brother flying in, actually. So we're all going to watch it together. It's going to be awesome. Have you bought tickets? Oh, you're talking about the game game. Yes.

Oh, I think men, are you staying here? Like, are you watching it here? We're going. We've talked about this hundreds of times. Are you going to the game? We're literally going to San Francisco for two days. No, I'll be in Tennessee for it. So you're coming back.

I'm going all the way out there. I'm shocked. Your team is in the game and you're coming back. Guys. I am shocked by this. I know. It was a tough decision. but I just can't afford that right now.

That's a lot of money. Credit cards, bro? Yeah, debt, bro. This may never happen again. Mike, will you see what the cheapest ticket is right now? Yeah. My buddy just got tickets. He's a Seahawks fan.

How much were they? Well, his old client got him for him, and he paid $10 grand apiece. It's got to be a good ticket. It's a really good ticket, yeah. Because last year, and I think that game was in a little more demand because it was the Chiefs and the Eagles. game time, tickets were down to like $2,600. And I'm not saying that's cheap, but it's cheap compared to what they announced the ticket prices are at the very beginning.

Yeah, I think I checked. I think you could stay and get them day off for that. But again, if you don't want to pay that, you don't want to pay that, but it's your team. I know. But you said this before, like being at the game, it doesn't feel like a football game since we were there last year. But it also wasn't your team last year. Sure, I know. I didn't care.

I'm like, yeah. And the fact that you're there already. I know. That's the biggest part. You got a free flight out there? Like you're already there, dude. Yeah. Thanks, Brandon. And then your family could just drive, right?

Your dad's in... It's like seven hours, yeah. In L.A.? Oh, that's a drive. Yeah. Mike, what do you got? Cheapest I'm seeing is $5,000. It's dropping already.

It's dropping already. It was like $6,500 last time we checked. It easily dropped. So let's just say $2,500 for a ticket. $1,000 for a hotel for two nights. No, don't forget your drinks. Well, the drinks are part of the year. $1,000.

but you guys could all and also you could get an Airbnb that's an hour outside of San Francisco that's such a massive city Yeah On a budget dude You just don't wonder you'd have found it And that's why they're gonna lose now

Because of me because I'm not there Probably You're going all the way out there I'm shocked Would you do it? Yeah If I was already there Would you go by yourself?

Yeah Yeah I mean it's a thing with me Like I have four kids It's six of us in the family Like Yeah if Eddie took all the kids Super Bowl

The taste of all of us Going to a Dallas Cowboys game. Yeah, but I'm saying like a buddy or a family member from Texas. Hey, meet me in San Francisco, dude. I would ask one of you guys, you want to stay with me? Because I'm going to stay. I know you would stay. And I think you would just risk it.

And if you couldn't find a ticket cheap enough, you'd just watch the game from the hotel. Sure. Dang, we thought you were a fan. Dude, I'm shocked by it. Me too. I also want to watch the first Super Bowl of the twins, you know? Their first Super Bowl. They don't remember.

They're not going to know what's going on. Yeah, but we can take pictures and be like, guys. What a cop out. Mike, would you stay? Oh, yeah, 100%. Oh, I forgot. Mike would stay with me. Yeah, I wouldn't even think about it.

Yeah, me too. I don't have an extra $8,000. No one said $8,000. It would be a lot. No, it wouldn't. Yeah, it would be at least five. For what? For the flight, hotel.

You're flown out there. But I'm not talking about the way back, though. You get a flight to $400 back back. The hardest part is already done. You're already there. No. You don't want it. He doesn't want it that bad.

I'm still going to watch it with my dad and brother, and that's all I care about. Oh, so you're going to stay? No, he's coming back. No, they're going to fly out here. The only thing I've ever heard. You should just go to L.A. I would rather watch it with them than a bunch of random people in a stadium. No, you would.

Not about your own team playing. No, I would. That's not called being with a bunch of random people when you go to a game. That'd be any game you go to. So all Patriots fans are just random people to you? If it was in New England a playoff game, that's a different story. But in San Francisco for a Super Bowl. I get the money thing, but that's not the excuse you're making.

You're saying you don't want to be with random people in a room. No, it's all of that. It's the money. I'd rather watch. it with family members. Just pay for yourself. Yeah. Yeah.

But even that alone. $2,500. That's your life, man. It's a lot of money. All right. So here we go. Let's build a Super Bowl 60 parlay. We're going

Patriots plus four and a half. Think about that for a little bit. Love it. We're also a bit biased because we have the Patriots in our Buy a Team League, which we're down like $4,000 on that, huh? $45. Gosh. So the best we can do is be minus $4,200.

That would be great. It's like charity. It's either 46 or 42. That's where we're going to be. 40. Okay. Yeah, I mean, shoot. It started the playoffs.

We were worse, so that's good. Yeah. Bad. Yeah, sure. Super Bowl MVP, it's going to be one of the two quarterbacks. It's tough because you're thinking like, all right, plus four, there's a chance that the Patriots can win, right? I'm going Drake me. Nice.

See, by doing that, then you really think the patrons can pull this off. Yeah, I'll go. I'm not doing Super Bowl MVP. I'm going to pull that off. So no need to edit it out. You can just let me live in this for a second. Because I'm going Patriots plus four and a half. I'm going to skip Super Bowl MVP.

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With? The show. What do you mean? You should watch heated rivalry. Oh, no, no, no, no, yeah. It's like who you got beef with, dude. I don't know. It's usually Kevin, but no.

Why? It's a good sports show. Okay, I haven't watched it. I think that would be the perfect, if you lost a bet, you had to watch the whole show. It's the two gay hockey guys. Oh, it's that one. I wouldn't mind watching that. I mean, wait, so is this like a...

I don't know. I don't know. No, is it a fictional series? You haven't... It's all over pop culture. I've heard people talk about it. So there's a sudden surge of women getting into hockey. It's because of heated rivalry, the HBO Max series about a romance between two rival

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Hockey stick. Who can't size. Hockey gay. Hey, you know what be funny? Because my wife and I will sit in bed and I're like, all right, what do you want to watch? I don't know. Let's just pick something. What if I just picked heated rivalry?

Just not tell her what it's about. You should and say nothing. Ask her if she'll watch a sports show with you. Okay, yeah, usually she'll be like, yeah, I might fall asleep, but I'll start it with you. But, man, that's so funny. And then you don't say what it did. And then just see how long it takes her to be like, what is this? That would be hilarious.

And then you can blame it on us. Yeah, I told me to watch it. Eddie is going with us to the Super Bowl. That's kind of big news. Love it. Let's go. It's been, yes, I'm going. No, dude, I don't think I can go to.

Like, dude, I can finally go. To be fair, we're not staying for the game this year. I know, but it sounds so cool to tell people I'm going to the Super Bowl. We are going for Super Bowl press, meaning we're going to go for two days and do a bunch of interviews like we did last year. So your son had a basketball game, though, for a while? So what happened was it's right during winter break. So this is where, like, you'll find out Kevin, you too, Bobby, soon. Like winter break is just this random week in the middle of winter where the kids have off.

So I thought, oh, that's perfect. My wife was like, look, we're not even going to be here. I might just go to North Carolina with the kids. So if you want to go with Bobby and them to the Super Bowl, do it. So I said, cool, I'm in. Then, well, the Ice Storm kind of messed all the basketball schedules up. And what would have been the championship game that probably would have been, like, last week, got moved to the week that we're going to the Super Bowl. So I told Bobby, like, dude, if this game is here, then they want to go to North Carolina.

I got to stay with my son and take into his games. Like, there's just no question about it. And then now we got news that all the games got pushed. So we're back, baby. Yeah. And I felt stupid being like, hey, man, it's a championship basketball game, sixth graders. I can't go. Well, no, it's more like, hey, I'm a dad.

Right. And also you went to L.A. with us to help those shoots. So we got it. And my wife is like, yeah, do whatever, like you need to do or whatever, because I don't tell her like, I want to do it. Of course not. I'm just like, oh, it's just work. They really want me to do this. Oh, there's a lot of work.

We're going to have to go to the Super Bowl. And so she's always like, yeah, sure. But I'd ask my son, like, hey, man, is it cool? Like, if you just don't play those games? and he was like, no, no, I've worked hard. Like, I want to play those games. Before they got postmarked. Yes.

See, he gets applauded for being a good dad. I'm over here, like, I want to hang out with my twins. He just made that up. That was nice. And he's just over here getting applauded. And you're like, dude, that's an excuse. It's wondering where you're turning red. Your twins won't have a single memory of this.

No. That's why they make cameras. And then he loves those pictures of like, look, guys, you're watching your first game. Like, they don't care. You can also take that picture when you get back and say, this is us watching the game. True. No, not the same, guys. My algorithm feeds me now

These funny bits First of all Have you ever seen Eddie The segments where The guy is like a professional weightlifter But he dresses as a janitor Love them Cleaning the gym

And they're these big dudes And they're like Lifting all this weight And they're struggling And he's like Excuse me, sir You know I need to clean this

To clean floor And they're like I don't even know What accent he used It's like a non-descript accent And they're like all right he goes I just moved the weights and they're like okay and he goes whoop it lifts it right up and then walks with it it it's so funny and he's like oh this not heavy yeah you make it

like very heavy the new one that I'm getting now because I was watching so many Alex Honnold or climber videos pro climbers going to like these rock walls getting an instructor who's like showing them how to climb them acting like they're terrible and then just dominating up a wall at the end that's awesome they're so funny oh wow I got to search those out this one climber, big dude, like pretty overweight guy. And he's telling the guy like, no, this is not what you should do.

The guy's a pro climber. And the guy's like, I don't know, this just feels right. And I think it's the right thing to do. And he's like, that's not how to do it. And so he's struggling to get up the wall. And they go through the lesson. The guy's like, I think I'm ready. I should do the, I want to do the big wall.

And the guy's like, I know, you shouldn't do the big wall. Let's do the beginner wall first. And he goes, just give me one shot. And so the instructor is like, okay, this guy's going to fail quick. And he goes all the way up. That's awesome. It's awesome. That wasn't my algorithm this week. Mike, I watched the Royal Rumble.

Yeah. I give it a C plus. It's kind of boring. No huge names that came out, especially in the men's. I thought the women's was better pound for pound. I didn't enjoy it more because I enjoy the men's more. But I thought the women's compared to baseline was better than the men's. I think I'm just more interested in the women's right now over the men's. All the big stars are just better.

I made some notes here. So they had this guy's, the Royal Rumble in Saudi Arabia and women can't show their skin. Oh, forgot about that. I know. So they all were coming out on these full body suits. I've seen some really funny Power Rangers memes now in videos. They all look like Power Rangers. So the women wrestlers all had tights.

Full body suits to their wrists and to their ankles. And one after the other, they've come out in full body suits. Dang. And I don't watch women's wrestling to see the skin, but they're all ripped up, and some of them have very distinct wrestling gear that they wear. And they were all in full power rangers-looking body suits. That's interesting.

Did you notice that, Mike? No, I didn't notice that. Thinking back now, do you? Yeah, it makes sense. But at first I was wondering, like, why are they all dressed weird? And then it's Saudi Arabia. So what's the consequence? Like, if you went out...

I would chop off... Yeah, like, if we go over there or the wife or something like that, Like, can they, do they just have to put on a bunch of clothes? It's not a risk I'm willing to take. No, I'm not trying that. And also, if you're performing in Saudi Arabia, you obviously have rules because artists go over and they can't say certain things or curse on stage.

Oh. So I think there are certain standards. What do you see, Mike? Yeah, you can get a fine. And then if you're doing business over there, it's probably in the contract they had with WWE. Like your women. But the dudes are all out in their freaking loincloths, ding-dongs, and ding-dongs flapping around.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's crazy. I've seen UFC. see though where the girls like just are wearing what they normally wear. The ring girls? Yeah. No, no, not the ring girls. In Saudi Arabia?

Yeah, they've done Saudi Arabia before. I bet you they haven't to where they're showing their skin. Because I remember it's crazy because like they show the audience and everyone's wearing white, you know, and they're wearing their robes or whatever. So it always looks weird to me, but I don't remember the girls wearing anything like that. The crowd kind of sucked. Yeah, they're serious. They knew the big wrestlers, but they didn't really know like the mid and the ones that are really coming up.

It looks so empty too. They put lights on all the seats, and the first half of it is pretty empty. By the end, it was full, but people would show cell phone footage from there. And they put the lights up so it looks full. If it's dark, they have all the lights up on all the seats. But they showed some cell phone footage, and it was pretty empty at the first part of it. Is that a soccer stadium? No, they built a stadium just for this.

Oh, wow. Saudi money. Yeah, they've got money. So was this on ESPN Unlimited? It is, and I'm going to talk about that. Okay. So ESPN Unlimited, I didn't have. and I'm trying hard to get Hulu live,

but I already have Hulu, wouldn't let me upgrade. I've tried everything. And so I'm like, screw it. I go to a different computer and I just create a whole different account and I sign up for ESPN unlimited for like $30 a month.

And so I buy it different email address. So now I have two. It's so stupid. Because I have ESPN, I have ESPN. Plus I didn't have ESPN unlimited. Right. Why we have all these? I don't know.

So I'm like, oh, cool. I turn it on. And then I go, oh, I bet if I just had taken and gone from, what do you call it? I got my phone. A VPN. It's a I'm in Canada. And I did that.

And then I could watch it on Netflix for free. Because everywhere, not in America, they were getting it on Netflix. So as soon as I paid for it, I paid for it in a year, obviously, because I'm just like, I'll pay for it all in a year. If I paid for it in a month, I'd have been okay. But I paid for the whole thing in a year. Because I thought, I'll watch the other ones on this, too. Then I went to my VPN.

And I said, let me just do it. I did Montreal. Then went to Netflix right there, push Blake, I watched it for free. Really? So stupid. That's so smart, though, dude. I wouldn't have never thought of that. I did it too late.

It didn't save me any money. Yeah. I text Mike and I was like, VPN. So you do have unlimited. I do. No, no, I had to pay for it. All right. So you have it now.

For the rest of the year. So you're going to love watching these basketball games. Dude, you can watch it from the hoop camera. The NBA? No, college. You can watch Arkansas games just from the camera above the hoop. AJ Stiles retired. He's 48 years old.

Did you know that? Yeah, I didn't know that. I know he was that old. He's still wrestling? Not only that. Randy Orton's 45. Randy Orton looks like a monster with muscles ripping out of him.

45 years old. My age. Most of the men wrestlers, they showed a meme. They were born in, the last three people were born in like 80, 82, and 84. And then on the women's side, it was like 98, 2009.

Even Cody Rhodes is 40. Yeah. Dude, Randy Orton is jacked. He is jack. Look at that. He's 45 years old. So I had AJ Styles 48, which I thought was crazy. Randy Orton's at 45.

In the Royal Rumble, there were too many masked men and luchadors that came out. They had like six. Were they Mexican? A lot of them were. Cool. No, because nobody cares. It's just people you know are going to get kicked out. There are three quarters of the people that come down, you know we're going to lose.

Oh, I got you. And you knew when it was like somebody from like, NXT or TNA or the Mexican organization they bought, WWE, that they now own. Do you know what that's called? I don't know. But they, you knew they were going to lose. It's like an extra in the movie, just there to be a body. More than an extra because they have storylines, and some of them would last.

The movie is they start with two people, and then every 90 seconds somebody new comes in. Their music plays, and they come down. And as soon as you get called in, you get about 15 to 20 seconds to feature. you come out and you do a couple moves. And so the luchadors would all come in and do cool flips and athletic stuff, but you just knew they weren't going to win. And then I would get that luchadors, the Mexican guys and the Japanese guys mixed up because they came out in masks.

I don't know. Oh, are they different masks, different style? They're still in masks with a bunch of shapes on it. I don't know, like, which one's Japanese? What are you have? I think it's just called AAA, Lucha Libby. It is, okay. Yeah, so that happened.

Mr. Aguana came out. I don't know, Mr. Aguana. is, I consider myself a be-knower in wrestling, and this guy comes out, he's goofy, and he has like this fake stuffed iguana, and he's fighting with it. What? It's not real? No. Can you find out who Mr.

Aguana is? I thought you just dress like an iguana. He is? Yeah, a Mexican wrestler. Did he have a mask? He's painted, right? He's painted like an iguana. Okay.

And he was too skinny. Like, he didn't look like a real wrestling. And that's right when my wife came in and started watching. Yeah, he's from NXT. So my wife's watching, and she's like, oh, we've got to watch this again. Mr. Aguana is the first one called out. Great. It's the worst of all the people to come out is Mr.

Aguana. And my wife's like, what is this? The guy's fighting with the stuff to Guana. This is so fake. What the heck? It's creepy looking. Yeah, he is creepy looking. And then they did this thing, and this is just a beef that I have right now with the state of wrestling,

because I do really enjoy where wrestling is right now. They come out, and the first two people are called out, and Bronner's the second guy out. He's Rick Steiner's son, but he's really good, and he's young. And so he comes out And he had been picked by a lot of people To win the Royal Rumble Because he's definitely on the set up And he comes out

And this masked guy from the stands jumps out He's in all hood All sweats, face covered Beats the crap out of him Bronbreaker gets thrown out of the ring The end This trope of a Masked man coming out of the stands

Has been happening since I was eight years old It's already happened In WWE like three times this year Well, 2025, 2025, 26 Does he reveal who he is at the end? He always ends up getting revealed. I think the last one was Austin Theory, who was the masked guy last, like three months ago, four months ago.

But it was very similar. Yeah. Jumps out, beats him up, runs back in the stands. People are speculating it's Jake Paul. Oh, is he a big dude? Jake Paul is an awesome wrestler. Really? Yeah.

He's as good as really any of them except for possibly the Big Biggs. Would you agree, Mike? I mean, Jake or Logan? I don't know. The one that wrestles. Jake's the boxer. Well, Logan, box two. Oh, he does?

No, he did, right? Yeah, Logan is the... Whoever the wrestler is is awesome. Okay. Logan. The taller brother. Not the Pokemon guy. No, he is the Pokemon guy.

I get him confused. It's like Mexican and Japanese. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Paul brothers. Jake's the big beard and he's way thicker. Whomever the wrestler is, Logan. The older one. He's awesome.

Really? Yeah, he's an A wrestler. Wow. He does acrobatic stuff off the top rope into the stands. He has to go. extra because people don't give him the benefit of the doubt because he's a Paul. But he is as good as 95% of those professional wrestlers. Would you agree?

Yeah, when I went to SummerSlam, like seeing him jump from, like you said, in the ring to outside of the ring, best moment of the night. Last year's Royal Rumble, he was going to get kicked off, but he jumped onto the table. Oh, yeah. He's so good. That's right. I saw a clip of that. When he was one of the final four, I thought he could win the championship and I'd be okay with it.

Like he could win the Royal Rumble. I think he deserves it. In the end, Roman Rains ended up winning it, thought it was kind of a cop out. Like, who cares? Yeah, it's such a lame person to win. My favorite wrestler right now, oh, who's your favorite wrestler ever, Eddie? Ever?

Hulk Hogan. Okay. And you don't watch enough now to know anybody. Nope. If you had to pay, somebody said, who's your favorite wrestler now, gun to your head? Now, uh, Rhodes. Blonde hair, Rhodes.

Okay. Dusty. No. For Andy. Dusty's dead. God, dang it. Dustin was gold dust? Do you remember gold dust?

The wrestler. Oh yeah, he had a mask. Yeah, I remember. Painted his face. So he was dust and roads. He was the natural dust and roads. Then he was gold dust. Okay.

And his younger brother was Cody. And Cody was stardust for a while. Then Cody got kicked out, got dropped by WWE. And now he's back in WWE. And he's the biggest star now. He's the biggest one? Okay. The blonde-haired one.

So you went with the two blonde white guys that are the biggest star in the company. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who's your favorite wrestler ever? Stone Cold. And now? Um, um, um,

You have to pick somebody. You know who's cool, honestly? Just because I watched that show is that chick that's like a goth-looking chick? Ria Ripley. Yeah. Yeah. She's freaking sweet. Yeah.

She's your favorite? Yeah, just because she's the one I remember the most from that show. She seems really cool. She seems very well-liked. Did you watch Unreal? Yeah. Season two? Yeah.

I'm a few episodes in. I haven't finished it. So, our truth, they love that, dude. When he got fired, they were all pissed. he's also like 50 years old Yeah Our truth I don't know he's in a tag team with

Road Dog Jesse James back in the day I remember Road Dog but I don't remember them being together But that was in Memphis though Right and then they did they do in WWE together? I think so I think that was like after DX Yeah that's a good episode

Road Dog Jesse James see the overalls Yeah With the beard for a bit No you're thinking of Hecksaw Jim Duggan Or you're thinking of Road Doggant Or you're thinking of the Road Doggant

Oh you didn't know Ladies and boys and girls, children of all ages, the Degeneration Nexus proud to present. You remember that? Uh-uh. Are you thinking to Hillbelly Gym? Yeah, Hillbilly Jim. It overall's big old...

Yeah, big old beer. Hillbilly Jim. He was massive, man. Yeah, he's huge. Mike, who's your all-time and current? All-time was the rock. Like, when he was in, like, the attitude era, that was the best to me. Right now, C-M-Punk's my favorite right now, too.

Oh, yeah. Seampunk is my favorite wrestler right now. He just seems like even off is, is like, a really good guy. Yeah, and he, like, stands up for what he believes, like, even out of wrestling, like, is very outspoken for, like, human rights. And his story of, like, walking away from WWE, coming back, I just think he's the coolest. Didn't he get in trouble at one point or no? Sam Punk? Like, yeah, did he get, with, like, a girl or a, no, that wasn't him?

Thinking of somebody else? Never mind. I don't know about that. I don't think so. Okay, I mean, you guys would know, obviously. I don't know everything, man. I know a lot of people think I do. I don't.

I think you do. Sam Punk's my favorite and Sting's my all-time favorite. Oh yeah. Especially blonde hair, Sting. Because back in the day, day. Still haven't met Sting. Mm-mm. And now he doesn't even wear the paint anymore.

I think he's like TNA. But I think it'd be fun to interview Sting and I'm fully face painted. That would be hilarious. Would you dye your hair blonde or no? No, because he doesn't anymore. Like he hasn't in forever. But I think to paint my face like Scorpion Sting

would be awesome. He lived in my hometown for like a while oddly. In your hometown, Waxahatchee? Just randomly. Steve Borden? Yeah. That's his real name? Steve Borden?

Yeah, his son is now a wrestler. And what's his name? I think it's Stephen. Hmm. I think it's Stephen Borden. I believe he's wrestling by Stephen Borden. Mike can look that up for me. Is he a big dude too?

Well, Sting was a big guy, but he wasn't the biggest of the guys because it's among monsters. So Sting was looked like an in-shaped guy. What's the name? Yeah, Steve Borden, Jr. Super Bowl 60 deserves a sports book built for the moment.

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You wore the bandana on his head. Yeah, my dad went to high school with him. Really? Mm-hmm. My dad had a yearbook. I would have loved if he was your dad. You're like, my dad? That's him.

Awesome. He was my dad. I'd be huge. But no, my dad had a yearbook, and like, you know, sometimes, you know, when you're a kid, you kind of go look at the yearbook, oh look at it. And he's like, oh, look, there's Tito Santana. He went by a different name. I don't remember his real name, but he wasn't Tito.

Remember Superfly Jimmy Snooka? Sounds familiar. He like was allegedly murdered someone. Mike can pull that up. Like he didn't go to jail for it, but there's like some accusations. But he was one of my favorite wrestlers because he would get up. He was island and he would jump off the top rope and do the fingers. That's an old, old old school.

It's kind of like Ray Lewis, huh? Oh, Mike just raised his head up. He just learned something new. He was charged with three-degree murder back in 2015. Oh, he was charged then. And voluntary manslaughter for the death of his girlfriend. Oh, no. His girlfriend.

So it was like two different things. Death of his girlfriend in 83 and then murder in 2015. I think there's a pattern. Oh, boy. Is this Superfly? Superfly, Jimmy Snooka. Was legit. Oh, no, the case went cold for decades and then he was charged in 2013.

Really? Wow. Wow. Oh, boy. Those wrestlers, man, they travel, they did drugs, they just banged. They also don't live a long time. Yeah. Because of that, everything Bobby just said.

The drugs. Traveling. Yeah, not just steroids, because I'm sure there's a lot of steroids, but also the drugs you do, just like an artist. Oh, yeah. Like somebody in a band does drugs. You just have to do something to kill the time. What about tag team? I love the road warriors back in the day.

I remember those guys. They ended up being the Legion of Doom, hawking animal. Steiner brothers were awesome. Then Scott Steiner got too big. Not too famous, but like two. He got too much juice. Unhealthy? I would assume it was steroids.

I don't know. Juice covers all that. Yeah, then he got too big because I liked him because he was the high-flying one of the Steiner brothers. But then he became the big one, the big one, the mean one, the dog-faced gremlin. But Rick Steiner is really his last name. It's Rex Steiner. A wreck. So he didn't have a name.

And they were like, no, no, just go by. Rick Steiner because his last name was Rex Steiner. Interesting. And that's also Bronbreaker's dad. These guys are monsters. The Road Warriors?

Is that who that is? What's crazy to me is how big Hulk Hogan really was because he was so normal because he was so famous but he was 6-7, 320 pounds. Yeah, that's insane. Like NBA player height 320 pounds.

That's like left tackle. Built like that. How many of these fights have you seen live? Four or five, nothing crazy. When you were younger? No. Oh, when I got older. Oh, really?

Yeah, I couldn't really afford to go as a kid. And so, yeah, once I got older, I went to a couple in Austin, maybe four total. Were you so into it? No, I kind of like fake. I was sitting too close. You had to act it up. Now I think I would enjoy it more.

But I was so close and it was so fake and it was like my first time going and sitting that close. I was like, this is obviously so fake to see how they shoot it. And obviously it's fake. Everybody knows it's fake. Yeah. The only thing it's not fake about it is a guana man. That's real.

No, that was real, man. That's a really guana. I went to one when I was a kid and Road Warriors were there. Rick Flair was there. That's cool. These Russian, you're talking about tag teams. The Bolsheviks? Yeah, they were there.

Do you know that's who it was or did you say yes to something? No, no, because they were bald, right? And they had red, like they wore red tights with like the sickle on it. I don't know. There were a bunch of Russian folks. Oh, really? May not have been the Bolsheviks. I don't know.

That sounds about right. But I remember. Nikolai Volkov was one, too. He was a Russian. I remember there was like. like one guy flew off the side of the ring and then he like started crawling under you know and then he comes out

from underneath and his face is covered and all his blood. You know we have a screen here. We should work the screen can you pull up the Bolsheviks just to see if... Let me see. This is our first time using our screen. I'll remember what they looked like in our new studio. Bolshevik wrestlers because Bolsheviks is the Communist Party

the Soviet Union just generally speaking. Oh really? But I think the wrestlers end up being the Bolsheviks. And then also Eish. Oh, that's Iron Sheik next to him, right? Nikolai Volkov. That's them. Yeah. That's them, man. I remember seeing them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You see the one right there where he's bald with a beard?

I guess when they take their hats off, they're bald. Yeah. Yeah, I remember them specifically. Down in McAllen, Texas. Look at the Bolshevik. And probably when they were out of the ring, there were just normal dudes, John and Frank. Yeah, yeah, yeah, from Arkansas. Yeah. You're watching UFC on Paramount Plus? Dude, it's the best thing it's ever happened to me. Like, you don't understand.

I used to have to pay the pay-per-view, and if I was like, man, I'm really not interested in a lot of these fights, but I do want to bet on them, then I would get on TikTok and watch someone record, like, live stream their TV. And so I don't have to do that anymore.

It's amazing. It's the best thing ever. I had to watch the first part of Royal Rumble on somebody's TikTok. Yeah. Because I couldn't get on, and I had to go and find, and they kept kicking people off. They were being pretty vigilant about making sure nobody was showing the stream.

So this one girl who was watching it, she would show the screen. Every 50 seconds, she'd flip back to her face. To change it. To change it up. Yeah. And then I was just like, I got to get on them. Yeah. It's like my guy in TikTok, I showed you.

The Cowboys. That's my dude. You do eat or something? It's just so dumb, though, because when you watch that, somebody is, like, risking their account. They're doing you a favor by shooting their, the team. TV screen and then people are like, hey, can you like turn that vertically? A little bit. I was like, can you get a little closer? Because it was not in frame.

You're the one. No, I said, hey, I really appreciate you doing this. Is there any way you can put it better in frame? I was on the treadmill walking. Or they talk crap to the guy or the whoever's streaming, the guy's like, hey, man, as you're warning, man, you talk crap to me like that one more time. I'm blocking you. Good. Mattress Mac made a $2 million bet on the Super Bowl.

He's still at it. He has to have a problem, right? Yeah. He's not just so rich. He does it for fun. Don't we think it's a problem? Yeah, I mean, he always... Does he like the fame of it, too? It's kind of an ad, right?

Yeah, like a caveat for like, if you buy furniture during this week, at $4,000 and my win list. This is not that, though. This is him just betting his own money. But how does everyone know? He has to send out a press release. Yeah, I always feel like he loses, though. Yeah, he doesn't hit the bet.

The largest reported Super Bowl bet so far $2 million on the New England Patriots to a Houston furniture salesman named Mattress Mac. I used to see his commercials all the time when I lived in Huntsville. Really? Yeah. So you knew who he is? Oh, yeah, I know exactly what he looks like. Mac is hedging his bet with one of his go-to promotions at his gallery furniture store,

spending $4,000 on a mattress and gear, and if the Patriots beat the Seahawks, you get your money back on your purchase. Wow. He really believes in those Patriots. Does it change the fact that he's worth about $300 million? Sure. I just feel like he's got a problem. Gambling problem. Somebody needs to jump in with old mattress Mac and stop the bleeding here.

All right. So there's that, I think that's it. Eddie has a religious theory on why the Seahawks are going to win the Super Bowl, though. I don't. This guy does on Instagram. It was kind of convincing. He said basically that every time there's been a new Pope, the Seahawks have won 13 games in their season, and have either gone to the Super Bowl or won the Super Bowl.

Okay, but that means they could go to the Super Bowl. They're already in the Super Bowl. Yeah, but the last time it happened with Pope, it was Benedict was the first time they'd ever won 13 games in a season and they made it to the Super Bowl. They didn't win. But then the next Pope, which was Francis. When Francis won that year, they won 13 games again. And they won the Super Bowl. That was Russ Wilson. And then now, new Pope Leo, 2025. So they've already made it though, because it sounds like they're one and one. I'm winning it. The way the trend is going, they're probably just going to lose it. Well, if it's either they make it or they win,

they've already made it. So either way, it's already happened. So you believe in the weird coincidence? It is a weird coincidence, but believe in it. Well, yeah, because I see it. I see it. But do I think there's something to it? Probably not. Are you saying it's the first year that he's a pope? Yeah, it's the first year that the Catholic Church gets a new pope, the Seahawks.

The first time they didn't win the Super Bowl, but they went. Right, but they're already there. So it's already happened. So it's already been proved? So the next time there's a pope, you just bet on it to make it to the Super Bowl. Yeah. Yeah, it's over on wins. That's bizarre, dude.

That's crazy to me. Yeah, it's pretty crazy. But I mean, I think the Seahawks are going to win anyway. If it were Pope-based, I'd have thought the Bears were going to get in. Because he's a fan of the Bears. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Yeah.

Anything else, Mike, from you? No, we're good. Okay. So everybody, thank you for listening. You will get an episode from us from California where Kevin will not stay. Which is blows my mind. You got a free trip out there. You guys are not helping right now.

You're already there, man. I already told my wife, like, yeah, I'll come back home, help you with a kid and everything. I can't go now. It's always, this is excuse eight guys. He's now on the eighth excuse. Yeah, thank you guys. We will see you later on this week. All right, blow that whistle there.

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to my brand new podcast, The Cliffer Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to The Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Hey, I'm Dr. Maya Shunker, a cognitive scientist and hosts of the podcast, a slight change of plans, a show about who we are and who we become when life makes other plans.

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